WEBVTT - Lamar Saga Continues, KD and LeBron Return & Wright or Wrong

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<v Speaker 2>In episode one thirty eight, What's right with Nick? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Demons is back. He has a few shows left with us,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe there's We're not sure when they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>until he moves to LA and then is off for

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<v Speaker 2>a bit and then is back late at least back

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. But a proud parent moment for me

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<v Speaker 2>if I may three kids and Demonse just got back

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<v Speaker 2>from Los Angeles, where he found an apartment, signed the lease,

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<v Speaker 2>got ready for his whole new life in LA. Five

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<v Speaker 2>minutes living five minutes from work, which in LA is

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<v Speaker 2>such a wine. I was following someone on Twitter yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>that showed that the drive from Santa Monica to Hollywood

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<v Speaker 2>at some time yesterday the drive was thirty minutes longer

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<v Speaker 2>than the bike ride because the traffic was so bad

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<v Speaker 2>and you're in a spot. So Demanse doing big things,

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<v Speaker 2>just shy of his twenty fifth birthday. His youngest sister, Deanna,

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<v Speaker 2>fresh off being cast as Annie in Annie at her

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<v Speaker 2>school for her school theater, for their big theater of

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<v Speaker 2>she just got cast without well, she just got cast

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<v Speaker 2>as Charlotte in Charlotte's Web in their next production. And

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<v Speaker 2>Demand's middle sister is living her best I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just be honest, want to be rich New York

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<v Speaker 2>City kid life, having gone from Cabo to Aruba and

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<v Speaker 2>is currently on the bus to her friend's house in

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<v Speaker 2>the Hamptons where she's just spending the weekend before she

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<v Speaker 2>goes off to college. So all the kids doing great.

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<v Speaker 2>Demonse's younger sister, not the youngest, but the one you

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<v Speaker 2>guys have not seen yet, is the one who, over

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<v Speaker 2>the next few weeks is going to be sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>Demansey's seat because her bougie school has decided that for

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<v Speaker 2>seniors at this part of the school year. Don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to go to school anymore. Tuition stays the same, believe

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<v Speaker 2>it or not. But they do something called Bridge where

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<v Speaker 2>they do like professional things. So is gonna be hosting

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<v Speaker 2>this show alongside me for a few weeks. But let's

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<v Speaker 2>get right to the show. It's great to have you back.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what is not on today's show. Baseball Opening Day

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<v Speaker 2>missed the cut. Gotta tell you my apologies kind of

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<v Speaker 2>snuck up on me here, but it missed the cut.

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<v Speaker 2>A six billion dollar bid for the Washington Commanders. Two

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<v Speaker 2>six billion dollar bids, which, as my buddy Kevin Wilde said,

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<v Speaker 2>uh means six billions on enough. If two people will

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<v Speaker 2>pay it, then somebody's gotta pay more. Speaking of my

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<v Speaker 2>buddy Kevin Wilds, so I gotta well and also light

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<v Speaker 2>the beam Sacramento ending the playoff drought that is going

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<v Speaker 2>to find its way into the show at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>There's demands top of a Sacramento sign with a beam

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<v Speaker 2>coming out of his chest. We're watching us on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to say something about Kevin Wilds. So,

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Wilds went on the Bill Simmons podcast, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest sports podcast in the world, he's gone on

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<v Speaker 2>it for years, and he does a thing called half

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<v Speaker 2>baked ideas, and they're very funny. Typically, So one of

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<v Speaker 2>his half baked ideas was, if you're going out to

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<v Speaker 2>a bar or a football game or anywhere people might

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<v Speaker 2>want to fight and you don't want to fight, a

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<v Speaker 2>product product called detachable cauliflower ear that you put on

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<v Speaker 2>you know what college flower ear is that the UFC

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<v Speaker 2>fighters had exactly right, that you walk in and before

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<v Speaker 2>you walk in you put it on there like it

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<v Speaker 2>was a really funny, I thought, good idea. Another one

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<v Speaker 2>of his half baked ideas was a barber dentist, which

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<v Speaker 2>was every time you go to the b's that when

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<v Speaker 2>you get your haircut at the barber shop, you also

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<v Speaker 2>get a teeth cleaning. That way, the dentist doesn't yell

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<v Speaker 2>at you for not having clean teeth and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to talk to anybody. Thought that was a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>But those are his types of half baked ideas. Snuck

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<v Speaker 2>into the middle of Kevin Wild's half bake was this

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<v Speaker 2>take and I quote, what about this bill challenge bait

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL? Well, what's that, Kevin? And this was

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<v Speaker 2>the example he used do you remember the NFC Championship game,

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<v Speaker 2>DeVante Smith caught the ball but didn't actually catch the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>and they hit that signal, which was to his team

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<v Speaker 2>saying I didn't catch it. Letturi up teams coaching their

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<v Speaker 2>guys when they know they caught it to have a

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<v Speaker 2>separate signal, start freaking out, rush to the line to

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<v Speaker 2>get the other team to challenge while ago, Oh, you feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I did. Oh, it's idea.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because the day after that game, I gave that

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<v Speaker 2>exact idea, calling it challenge bait and saying that team

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<v Speaker 2>would do it eventually. Kevin Wilds two months later, does

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<v Speaker 2>it on a podcast with ten XR subscribers, and now

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<v Speaker 2>he gets credit for it.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that was where you were going with it,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I said something like that about that exact moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I've looked this guy in the eye and do tell

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<v Speaker 2>out here stealing my stuff and not even doing it

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<v Speaker 2>just so shamelessly. Because again all his other one of

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<v Speaker 2>his you know what, another one of his half baked

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<v Speaker 2>ideas was a roomba. You know what, a room is

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<v Speaker 2>one of those robotic vacuums. Oh yeah, a roomba that

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<v Speaker 2>has on top of it like a doll that looks

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<v Speaker 2>like one of those girls from the Shining that goes

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<v Speaker 2>around your house at night, so in case anyone ever

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<v Speaker 2>breaks in, they freak out and think you have ghost.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all very funny, they're all very good ideas. They

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<v Speaker 2>all also have nothing to do with sports, and they

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<v Speaker 2>all except for the one that he took from me.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get to the show, Tomanse. Sorry, Wilds,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's you and me. You and me. We're done, professor,

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<v Speaker 2>We're done. Go ahead, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>So the lamar fiasco continues, and it's getting pretty strange.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. You think him not having an agent has no

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<v Speaker 3>excuse for teams not wanting if we're being truthful.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Now he's on Twitter constantly causing a ruckus logical

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<v Speaker 4>teams like Atlanta and Washington are openly passing on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Could he end up forcing himself out of the league entirely?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? That seems extreme. It is not off the board,

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<v Speaker 2>because he could. You could sit out this year. He

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<v Speaker 2>could sit out this year. So there's so much here. First,

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<v Speaker 2>let me say this, Lamartin needs better people around for

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<v Speaker 2>a number of reasons. One is he send out these

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<v Speaker 2>tweets that and I don't want to be rude, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're not well crafted messages if you are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>interview a sin actually for jobs across the league. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand some might say his interview processes turn on

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<v Speaker 2>the film. I get that, but quarterback is the most

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<v Speaker 2>public facing position for a franchise, and it is specially

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<v Speaker 2>if you have any holes in your game or any concerns.

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<v Speaker 2>Folks are gonna nitpick everything, and there is a very

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<v Speaker 2>unfair but it is reality of a double standard of

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<v Speaker 2>how we evaluate still to this day, black quarterbacks and

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<v Speaker 2>whether people question their processing and all this stuff, which

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately is just questioning their intelligence. And Lamar's poorly phrased

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<v Speaker 2>tweets do not help him.

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<v Speaker 3>There.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you a nothing doesn't help him. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>check out my fan page. This is Lamar Jackson's website.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna show it to you, Demanse. It does

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<v Speaker 2>not look like a website.

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<v Speaker 4>Of of a of a multi exactly right if you were.

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<v Speaker 2>His about me page on the website has accolades like

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<v Speaker 2>two time Pro Bowler League MVP. Just bullet points College

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<v Speaker 2>is the only player, like this is not this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is It makes me feel so bad for Lamar.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't it. That's what when I say, listen, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>design a website, by the way, if I designed a website,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta have a team around you. And the team

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<v Speaker 2>around him that he evidently has is this dude his

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<v Speaker 2>business partner, Ken, who the was reported was calling teams

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<v Speaker 2>on his behalf even though he's not an agent. Lamar

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<v Speaker 2>said he's not calling teams.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way.

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<v Speaker 2>He and I are releasing the entire gym, which is

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<v Speaker 2>just like a portable gym setup, and that's his business partner.

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar also promised an interview with Big Trust Productions that

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<v Speaker 2>an you hasn't come. He's not handling this properly he

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<v Speaker 2>needs and by again, this is not me coming. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I'll talk about the NFL side of it, because

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think so many people are watching this

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<v Speaker 2>in so many directions, right the Ravens other teams and

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar the other I am not coming down on him

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<v Speaker 2>in a judgmental way. It is more advice, Like people

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<v Speaker 2>that think they can be experts at multiple things are

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<v Speaker 2>usually fooling themselves. So I will use myself as an example.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really understand how finances, investments, taxes, any of

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff works. I've never studied it, never taken the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a very base level understanding. I pay somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt says they can tell from all my tags beets

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<v Speaker 2>fair enough. That came out fine in the end. Boys,

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<v Speaker 2>I maybe you guys don't remember twenty seven nothing. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember twenty seven nothing quite well? Uh that I pay

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to handle all of that for me because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how to do it. I now that is

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<v Speaker 2>risky in its own regard. You have to a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of athletes. When that happens to those people then steal

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<v Speaker 2>money from them. You gotta monitor it, and you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>have some level of understanding to make sure you're not

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<v Speaker 2>being you know, swindles. Yeah, but there are certain Your

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<v Speaker 2>mom has built this entire store, designed, every piece of

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<v Speaker 2>it has done. We do the store from we do

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<v Speaker 2>the show for my wife's boutique and Harlem called Trintage.

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<v Speaker 2>It's beautiful. She is not great at promotion social media stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>She hired somebody to run that for the store, someone

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<v Speaker 2>who that's what they're an expert in. Now life is

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<v Speaker 2>much much harder obviously if you don't have the financial

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<v Speaker 2>resources to farm out these things. But if you do

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<v Speaker 2>and you are trying to maximize your value and all

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<v Speaker 2>of this, it's almost your responsibility to farm it out.

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<v Speaker 2>And it'd be one thing if it's like, Nope, I

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<v Speaker 2>can do all of it and I'm handling this perfectly.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not, And I do wish he had better people

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<v Speaker 2>around him. Sorry to you know a football topic already

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<v Speaker 2>invoke Lebron, but one of the smartest things Lebron ever

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<v Speaker 2>did was get the people around him that he trusts

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<v Speaker 2>the most in the world, identify what their specific talents were,

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<v Speaker 2>use his resources to get them trained in those fields,

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<v Speaker 2>and then have those people run his empire. Maverick was

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<v Speaker 2>always a super sharp guy. Maverick and him were tight.

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<v Speaker 2>Maverick was senior, Lebron was freshman. They won a state

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<v Speaker 2>championship title together. Maverick went on to play some college basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>Maverick went to go work for Nike learn I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was Nike learn about a lot of meet with

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<v Speaker 2>very rich, very powerful people, learn what he needed to learn.

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<v Speaker 2>And Maverick is a brilliant guy. And now Maverick has

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<v Speaker 2>helped build Lebron's empire. Lebron met Rich Paul in a

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<v Speaker 2>parking lot when Rich was hustling throwback jerseys. He understood

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<v Speaker 2>that Rich had a lot of the best traits you

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<v Speaker 2>need to be an agent. Rich went and worked for

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron's agent at Cia, learned the business part of that business,

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<v Speaker 2>took his natural skills, and Lebron empowered him to go

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<v Speaker 2>help start his own agency, which now one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best in the world. That is one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 2>he's never had any real public missteps is he has

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<v Speaker 2>these people around him that can help protect him so

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<v Speaker 2>he can focus on, as he says, keep the main thing,

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<v Speaker 2>the main thing. I know it sounds like almost silly,

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<v Speaker 2>but any of the top top level athletes can either

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<v Speaker 2>follow the traditional path of hiring people that are already established,

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<v Speaker 2>or Lebron's path of making your own people the established

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<v Speaker 2>people trying to go it alone, especially when you are

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<v Speaker 2>also trying to thread the needle of in your prime

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<v Speaker 2>franchise quarterback changing teams are getting a fully guaranteed deal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's too much. It's too much. Go ahead, Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's I get that he hasn't hired people,

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<v Speaker 3>but I still think it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's crazy. Okay, We're not gonna hire Lamar Jackson because

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<v Speaker 4>his PR team or his negotiating skills aren't great. You

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<v Speaker 4>know that Lamar Jackson's good at football.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So it's just like, so that is where I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like everyone else has botched this. So let's do

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<v Speaker 2>the Ravens in the rest of the league. The Ravens,

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<v Speaker 2>as I've mentioned before, they've been negotiating with Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty five months. Deshaun Watson got his deal thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>months ago, so they had a full year and when

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<v Speaker 2>the same draft class, Josh Allen got a new deal.

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<v Speaker 2>When a three years in is when you give a

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<v Speaker 2>guy a new deal a full year before fully guaranteed

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<v Speaker 2>was ever on the board, when you could have signed

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson, they didn't. They now have soured the relationship

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<v Speaker 2>to a point to where they might lose a twenty

0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:54.240
<v Speaker 2>six year old in his prime, unquestioned top ten quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>We could argue about would you rather have Lamar or Trevor?

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<v Speaker 2>You want to argue you quick.

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<v Speaker 4>Aaron Rodgers got picked up after having Lamar Jackson had

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<v Speaker 4>a better season than Aaron Rodgers when he was in

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<v Speaker 4>the game.

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<v Speaker 3>He obviously got hurt.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no questions like, hey, I picked up immediately and

0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:13.440
<v Speaker 4>he was calling the shots.

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<v Speaker 2>So there now, and he's tenures, that's thirteen years older.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad season. Now, he's not as expensive as Lamar is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be. So here's the other part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I do in my buddy Danny Parkins, who does radio

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<v Speaker 2>in Chicago and also a great podcast called First and Pod,

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<v Speaker 2>makes this point, and this point is correct. The single

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<v Speaker 2>most expensive way to acquire talent in the NFL is

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<v Speaker 2>trade for a player who's not on your team and

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<v Speaker 2>give him the new contract. You're paying the top of

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<v Speaker 2>the market contract and you're giving up draft picks.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so it's the most expensive way to get talent,

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<v Speaker 2>the way that the Dolphin's got Tyreek Kill is the

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<v Speaker 2>most expensive way to get a top flight receiver. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna pay you more than a receiver, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>give up draft picks for the opportunity to pay you

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<v Speaker 2>more than any receiver, the way the Broncos got Russell Wilson,

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<v Speaker 2>the way the Browns got Nashawan Watson. Right, So it

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<v Speaker 2>is not quite And so with Rogers, the contract is

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<v Speaker 2>very expensive, but it is already in place, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna be two first round picks at a minimum,

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<v Speaker 2>which Lamar would be. So I understand why it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be twenty teams going after him.

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<v Speaker 4>The teams are saying that his his style of play,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, is risky and he'll get hurt. But like

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<v Speaker 4>him and Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers obviously much older, how

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<v Speaker 4>much longer does he have in the league. Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 4>young just got MVP a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. But I also do think that if

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar had, if he had two years left on his

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<v Speaker 2>deal and he was going to go for probably a

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<v Speaker 2>second round pick and ish, that that's a different you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. That is a different situation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but that doesn't change the fact that Carson Wentz went

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<v Speaker 2>for a first round pick two years ago. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>change the fact that I understand why teams don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to do what the Browns did because everyone thinks the

0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Browns made a bad deal, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>But the idea that there would be no market for him,

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<v Speaker 2>to me is an example of the NFL, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is where Lamar has to be careful. The NFL's ownership

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<v Speaker 2>simply saying, we collectively are not crossing the rubicon of

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<v Speaker 2>all of these quarterbacks getting guaranteed deals exactly right. And

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<v Speaker 2>that is where I think good, good management would tell Lamar, Amen,

0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:57.480
<v Speaker 2>they are conspiring against you. The deal you want is

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<v Speaker 2>not coming. Doesn't mean I can't get a great deal,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. It doesn't mean that we can find a

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<v Speaker 2>way to get you a deal that is mostly guaranteed

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of protections. But the things we're hearing, like

0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Arthur Blank, who they were all in on Deshaun Watson saying, well,

0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:20.399
<v Speaker 2>it's a different situation. You know, the injury risk and

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<v Speaker 2>every game is precious. You were all in on a

0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.320
<v Speaker 2>player the first of all, injury risk. DeShawn has torn

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<v Speaker 2>both acls. Second of all, you knew he was going

0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:31.240
<v Speaker 2>to be suspended. You know, you knew if you're traded

0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:34.280
<v Speaker 2>for Deshaun, he was missing time. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar might get hurt, might not get hurt, but it's

0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.920
<v Speaker 2>not like he's already hurt and it's he's gonna miss

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<v Speaker 2>the first happen tweet.

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<v Speaker 3>The other day.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like Lamar's pray style, how he sold mobile and

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<v Speaker 4>runs around a lot. He hasn't gotten hurt, like playing

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<v Speaker 4>the way that he plays, you know, traditional passages exactly

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<v Speaker 4>like in the pocket. He never gets hurt when he's

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<v Speaker 4>running away.

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<v Speaker 2>He's I feel like, speak to his game, correct, I listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I do understand concern. Okay, I think he's in some

0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:07.240
<v Speaker 2>quarters an underrated passer, but like I think his deep

0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:10.840
<v Speaker 2>ball is excellent. Steven Ruiz wrote about this. His ability

0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:14.440
<v Speaker 2>to change arm angles Allah Mahomes is very good. Where

0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Lamar is not great passing compared to the other great

0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.639
<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks is on what I would call easy throws, you

0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:23.800
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like Sal He's not as consistent

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<v Speaker 2>on the layups as you would like a great quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>to be get that. I understand that. But if we

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<v Speaker 2>are being as negative as possible about Lamar, let's list

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterbacks that you could the most quarterbacks you could

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<v Speaker 2>say are better than him, and we will tie goes

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<v Speaker 2>to the other quarterback. Okay, Patrick, Josh, Josh, Joe, justin Trevor. Again,

0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.080
<v Speaker 2>if ties go to the other quarterback, and I think

0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Trevor has it because he's the traditional pack up, pack

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<v Speaker 2>these things working where he's younger, all that stuff, all right.

0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:10.680
<v Speaker 2>So now we're at five, Aaron Aaron Jalen Jalen Hurts.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're at seven. Is that the end of the list.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it is. You want to say Stafford because

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<v Speaker 2>he's won a Super Bowl. Now he's a massive injury risk.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you can say Stafford. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you can say.

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<v Speaker 3>Dak No, definitely not Russell.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't say Russell can't. That's the list if we are

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<v Speaker 2>being the the you know what, Tua may I think

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<v Speaker 2>that now that's a no. You can't say to a

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<v Speaker 2>because he's the biggest injury risk right now in the

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<v Speaker 2>league because of concussion stuff, because you could have one

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<v Speaker 2>more concussion be done with football.

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel Jones a tie as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, okay, but so here's the so again, at worse,

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<v Speaker 2>she's the eighth or ninth best quarterback in football. Yeah,

0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:08.440
<v Speaker 2>there should be a market, and I think there are

0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:14.720
<v Speaker 2>teams like Miami making a mistake not considering this, closing

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<v Speaker 2>the door on the the Miami just picked Now maybe

0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:20.600
<v Speaker 2>they haven't. They just picked up to his fifty year option.

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<v Speaker 2>They could maybe include him in a trade. Detroit. We've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about Indy. Obviously there San Francisco money, they'd be

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<v Speaker 2>in hell, but they'd win the Super Bowl. So that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, at least to me. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 2>so here is what I think is going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that what we're going to end up seeing

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<v Speaker 2>is the market heat up after the draft. So right now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you try to sign Lamar Jackson and the Ravens

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<v Speaker 2>see what you sign him to and say okay, you

0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:01.680
<v Speaker 2>can have him, you lose this year's draft pick and

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<v Speaker 2>next year's draft. If you do it after the draft,

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<v Speaker 2>you lose next year's draft pick and the year after.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't it follow logic that every single team that would

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<v Speaker 2>want Lamar Jackson would believe we're going to get much better.

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<v Speaker 2>So our first round pick next year will be considerably

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<v Speaker 2>worse than our first round pick this year. So take

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:27.640
<v Speaker 2>the Colts, for instance, if they were to sign Lamar

0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Jackson right now, they give up the fourth overall pick

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:34.400
<v Speaker 2>and next year's pick. If they're thinking we're gonna sign

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:36.320
<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson because we're gonna win the division and be

0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:39.719
<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs, that'll be the twentieth pick and the

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<v Speaker 2>following year's pick. The New England Patriots are a team

0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:45.920
<v Speaker 2>that I think should be in it. The Patriots. Where

0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:50.520
<v Speaker 2>are they drafting the pick? No, the Patriots are They

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:54.439
<v Speaker 2>were eight and nine, so they're drafting like eleventh or

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<v Speaker 2>fourteenth or something. I'll look it up real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>Surprise.

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<v Speaker 4>Lamar had interesting going there, to be honest, I just

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's see him wanting to go to Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I think players that have played against Belichick, they are

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:12.440
<v Speaker 2>the drafting Patriot chef from fourteen have massive respect for him. Yeah,

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 2>and I think Lamar looks at it like Man, that defense,

0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 2>that running game.

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<v Speaker 3>That Now.

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<v Speaker 2>If I were Lamar, I would ideally want to just

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 2>go to the NFC where I could be maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>best quarterback. And that's why Detroit so Detroit. If I'm Detroit,

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:31.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Okay, I have the sixth and eighteenth picks

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:36.480
<v Speaker 2>this year. I can use those on premier defensive players.

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 2>I can then trade Jared Goff for probably a second

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<v Speaker 2>round pick some stuff and use my following too. You know,

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five first rounders to

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<v Speaker 2>sign Lamar and in an NFC North who the starting

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:58.920
<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks are Kirk Cousins, Justin Fields who will see on

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:03.159
<v Speaker 2>and Jordan Love who will see on can go do

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 2>real damage? I think something happens here. I also wish

0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 2>Lamar would call up David Mulegetta, who was Deshaun Watson's agent,

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 2>and say, hey, man, what'd you do? This guy was

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:24.879
<v Speaker 2>facing twenty three credible lawsuits, He had not played in

0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 2>a full year, he had torn his ACL once already.

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:32.879
<v Speaker 2>He had won one solitary playoff game, just like me.

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:36.840
<v Speaker 2>You got a bidding war that ended up with a

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:40.400
<v Speaker 2>team giving up three first rounders and a fully guaranteed deal. Now,

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:43.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe you can't get that for me. What can you

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 2>get for me?

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Yea?

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, I don't want to pay three percent.

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.439
<v Speaker 2>I want to pay one and a half percent. You

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 2>think David's gonna say no to that, I'm gonna say no.

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 2>I got a stage through to the three percent. I

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 2>don't think that. Now. I don't know David. I don't

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 2>want to speak for him. But that's, to me, the

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 2>best advice I could give him. Uh that was twenty minutes. Okay,

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 2>let's keep going go ahead, all right, we're on real quick, sorry, Lamar.

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Week one next year is playing quarterback for the Ravens?

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Is sitting out? Or is on another team.

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 3>He's on another team.

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you do think this gets done?

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'm rocking with whatever team he's on.

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 2>That's gonna be what you do.

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:26.920
<v Speaker 4>The Lamar disrespect is crazy. I feel like he needs

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 4>that one extra guy supporting him.

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 2>How much how much of this is because you like

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<v Speaker 2>using him in Madden?

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:37.200
<v Speaker 3>I actually kind of dislike using him in Madden sometimes

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 3>because of the.

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 2>Errant passing at times. Yeah, dude, he gets frustrated. Yeah, well, yeah,

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 2>you use this big Lamar Jackson guy. All these NFL

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 2>gams listening to Showler like exactly now, man, you have

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:49.439
<v Speaker 2>to say, and I'm an asshole for not giving him

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:51.240
<v Speaker 2>two hundred million dollars. You won't use him in a

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Madden game? You want me to put my franchise with him?

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:54.160
<v Speaker 2>All right?

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Next?

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:54.880
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:55.919
<v Speaker 3>All right?

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 4>Katie made his second Son's debut last night, and since

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 4>coming back, Lebron has led the Lakers to a.

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Split versus Patrick Beverley.

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 4>Stop it both Now the opportunity to catch heat in

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 4>the final two weeks of the season.

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:13.160
<v Speaker 3>Which team needed their starback more? Oh?

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:18.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, oddly the Suns because they need to get

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 2>on I So there's a lot here before we get

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:28.640
<v Speaker 2>to any of it. Did you see Lebron's postgame interview yesterday?

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:30.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, where it's like basically naked.

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 2>Yes, So okay, so I mean here, I should have

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:41.159
<v Speaker 2>told the cruisers, but there it is. I what do

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:41.879
<v Speaker 2>you make of that?

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 3>Do you think that there was trying to show his youth?

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.639
<v Speaker 2>See, I think you nailed it. I don't think that

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 2>was an accident. Lebron is doing this interview in an

0:27:55.520 --> 0:28:03.400
<v Speaker 2>undersized towel, right show like let the eye by and out? Uh,

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 2>I still got it that. I really think that's what

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:09.199
<v Speaker 2>it is. I'm the oldest guy in the league that

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:13.200
<v Speaker 2>still plays, and I just want to remind everybody because

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 2>he does weird things sometimes. Because when the playoffs started

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 2>in the bubble, he intentionally didn't like again, this is speculation,

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 2>but I know I'm right. He let all the gray

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:29.160
<v Speaker 2>and his beard come in as much as like I've

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 2>ever seen. It didn't cut it, And I think it

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 2>was psychological thing. Yeah, it was like, okay, ah, you

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 2>guys are tired, the Bubble's been tough, blah blah blah.

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 2>I am reminding you I'm an old man and I'm

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna rush and now I think he's going the other way.

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 2>It's like I missed a month. I'm thirty eight, I'm

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 2>in year twenty, and I'm gonna do this interview basically

0:28:55.040 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 2>in the nude, yeah, and like make it newsworthy to

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 2>where it goes places to remind everybody, because that was

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 2>not an accident. Jordan famously would never do interviews until

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 2>he was.

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 3>Well. But like.

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 2>The suit, earrings and everything, and a lot of guys

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 2>do that, Lebron, I've seen him do these things shirtless.

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen him like that. That was noteworthy to me.

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I've seen any player like that in

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 3>post I haven't seen too many postgame interviews, but that.

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 2>That it hit your radar right on here, all right?

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 2>So on Durant. Durant gave an interview with the Shams

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 2>said he doesn't care about his legacy anymore. Everyone's just

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 2>gonna discredit him no matter what. All this stuff. I

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 2>don't know that I fully believe him, but set that aside.

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Here's what I do know. I will vociferously defend Kevin

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 2>de if they win this title and anyone tries to

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 2>discredit this Suns team was drawing dead to win the

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 2>championship zero percent. They had their window had closed. Chris

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Paul has moved to a different stage of his career.

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Booker's a really good player, but not good enough to

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 2>carry a team to a championship as you know as

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 2>the unquestioned alpha without a great co star. I know

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 2>they made the final, the finals two years ago and

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Booker was the best player, but he wasn't. Chris Paul

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 2>was the was the glue of that team, and Booker

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 2>was a way overqualified number two. And they lost anyway,

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 2>The lost four straight. So I think that this is

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 2>not like the Warriors at all. It's not even like

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 2>the Nets when they trade for Harden and they look like, okay,

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 2>they've stacked the deck. It's it's like if the Nets

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 2>had won the title last year, I don't think anyone

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 2>would have discredited it. And this Suns team, we have

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 2>proof of concept with them, seventy games of them without Durant,

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 2>they were not a championship caliber team. If he parachutes

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 2>in and they win the title, he gets to me.

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 2>If he parachutes in and they make the finals, massive

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 2>massive credit. So I don't think that's going to happen now.

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 2>On the Lebron thing.

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 3>He's a ring hitman. Well, what do you mean if

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 3>if you win the title with him?

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've never seen We've never seen a team

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 2>acquire their best player mid season and win the title.

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 2>We've seen the defending champion Rockets acquired Clyde Drexler.

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 3>So we're still saying Curry was the better one.

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 2>No, they didn't acquire a mid season Oh no, We've

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 2>seen guys KG and Ray Allen came to the Celtics,

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 2>they immediately won a title. We've seen that. We saw

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Davis join the Lakers. They wanted title. He was

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 2>the second best guy. But in the offseason, we've seen it.

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about a mid season trade. We saw the

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 2>ninety five Rockets ad Clyde. They were the defending champs,

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 2>they were the sixth seed. They end up winning the title.

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 2>We saw the Pistons make a massive trade in eighty

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 2>nine and win the title, but again, Isaiah was their

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 2>best player. We've never seen Wilt was traded mid season.

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 2>They didn't win. We've never seen a team get their

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 2>best guy and go win the title, and they'd be

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 2>doing it having played ten games together. So that is noteworthy.

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:46.239
<v Speaker 2>On his end. The Lebron thing is fascinating because I

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 2>do think the Lakers are a super dangerous team, ring

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 2>super dangerous Lebron. AD and D'Angelo Russell have only played

0:32:56.280 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 2>three games together. They haven't lost. AD. You can't rely

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:06.239
<v Speaker 2>on him every night, but when he's good, he's an

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 2>unquestioned the best. AD is one of the top eight

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 2>guys in the league. The problem for him is he's

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 2>not consistently say his bad nights are really bad for

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 2>a superstar and Lebron come the postseason, man just manipulate

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 2>every possession. Now they have a huge game Friday against

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 2>the Timberwolves, and right now the Lakers are the eight seed.

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 2>They're thirty eight and thirty eight. The Timberwolves are thirty

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 2>nine and thirty. You win that game against the Timberwolves,

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 2>you move up to the seven line. The Golden State

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 2>has thirty seven losses, You have the tiebreaker with them.

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 2>The Clippers have thirty six losses. You do not have

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 2>the tiebreaker with them, but you do get to play

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 2>them again. Could the Lakers move up out of the

0:33:58.240 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 2>play in possibly?

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Do?

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it's actually incumbent upon them to do that.

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 2>I do in this regard the team I would least

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:12.279
<v Speaker 2>want to play in round one, There's no way for

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:15.360
<v Speaker 2>them to play Phoenix in round one because Phoenix is

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 2>right now. The Phoenix can't move up. They're the four.

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 2>They could drop to the five, but Phoenix can't move

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 2>up to the three, and the Lakers are not going

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 2>to be able to move up to the five. So

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. The Lakers are gonna be

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 2>six seven, eight at best, and so they're not gonna

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 2>be able to play Phoenix. The team I would least

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 2>want to play is Memphis because the Lakers have no

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 2>one to guard Job, absolutely no one to guard Job.

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:45.240
<v Speaker 2>The team oddly enough i'd like to play is Denver,

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 2>but because Jokic, I think you'd have real, real trouble

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 2>with Anthony Davis and Lebron will put him in a

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 2>million picking rolls. But the only way to play Denver

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 2>is if you're in the play in and lose your

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:01.879
<v Speaker 2>first play in game and then win your second one.

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.320
<v Speaker 2>That's how you get the eight seed, or I guess

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 2>the other way to play Denver would be to be

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:09.959
<v Speaker 2>in the play in as the nine or the ten

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 2>and then win both your playing games. I don't think

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 2>that's likely. I think the right now. If I were

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 2>ranking Western Conference contenders, I would go Memphis one, Lakers two,

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 2>Suns three. I worry about Chris Paul's health and I

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:38.720
<v Speaker 2>worry about their continuity. That's how I would have it ranked,

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 2>and I think the Lakers could be really well positioned.

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 2>It's worth noting despite Lebron missing a month and missing

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 2>two weeks earlier in the year, despite Anthony Davis missing

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 2>a month, since the two and ten start, they are

0:35:55.640 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 2>thirty thirty six and twenty eight. They have had one

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 2>of the three best defenses in the league since the

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:06.799
<v Speaker 2>trade deadline, and arrested Lebron with that month off. If

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:10.320
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't re injure that foot is a dangerous team next.

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 3>All right, so.

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 4>While you're gone, Jokic beat Giannis in the Bucks. By

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 4>the way, have you seen Janni's tweet about the trend

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 4>that he started.

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 2>About the cross Lakes.

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did.

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 3>I thought that was pretty.

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 2>By the way, that is something. Team chemistry matters. Guys

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:31.720
<v Speaker 2>liking each other matters, and the Bucks lead the league

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 2>in there in good vibes and on a playoff run

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 2>that absolutely matters. But go ahead, So he also beat Philly.

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 2>He being go ahead.

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:43.840
<v Speaker 4>Uh yeah, Jokic beat Philly, but beat set out and

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:45.720
<v Speaker 4>didn't even join the team on the bench.

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 3>Seems like him Bee couldn't rise to the challenge.

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Not true, but go ahead.

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 4>Denver has big games against the Suns and Warriors over

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 4>the final stretch. Even, you now have to admit that

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:58.359
<v Speaker 4>Jokic is in the driver's seat for this MVP thing.

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't think he's in the driver's seat. Bon

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Tim's just released his updated straw Pole. It is basically dead.

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Even it was a weird thing. Jokic got the most

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 2>first place votes in bon tim Straw Pole, but Embiid

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:14.800
<v Speaker 2>was the winner because you get points for first, second, third,

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, and so Jokic had more thirds. Embiid was

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 2>basically first or second on enough ballots that it over,

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:26.319
<v Speaker 2>and Jokic had a few thirds. It really I don't

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 2>think Yana should be discounted. I mean, last night, I

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 2>know Drewaliday had fifty one Janis also had a thirty

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:35.360
<v Speaker 2>seven point triple double. I don't think Yanna should be

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:40.720
<v Speaker 2>discounted in this. I don't. I actually give Embiid credit

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:49.839
<v Speaker 2>for putting team success above the MVP. Yeah, because the

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 2>medical staff clearly thought he needed the game off because

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:56.240
<v Speaker 2>he's been dealing with something he knew because he already

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:58.919
<v Speaker 2>cooked up Jokic in their first meeting. If he did

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 2>it a second time, he could have basically I think

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:06.360
<v Speaker 2>eliminated Jokics from the conversation. He didn't. His team loses.

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 2>But Embiid was very good last night and they beat

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 2>the mat.

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 3>Like you gotta go out there and kill on.

0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, I listen, I understand that any other games know,

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 2>I just I just no, of course I get it.

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:24.280
<v Speaker 2>I think the but I understand that that is Embiid

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 2>showing the world like I am really focused on winning.

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 2>And here you thing. Embiid's never made Round three, not

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 2>the finals. He's never made a conference finals. He's got

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:39.719
<v Speaker 2>to break through. The best players in league history have

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:42.800
<v Speaker 2>never made a conference finals. It's like Dominique, Wilkins and

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:48.240
<v Speaker 2>Bernard King, they who were Hall of famers, but Bernard's

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 2>career was derailed. Dude to Andrey. Dominique was in the

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:52.400
<v Speaker 2>East and the eighties had to deal with Bird and

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 2>the and Michael and this Pistons like it was a

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 2>brutal spot. They weren't guys finishing in the top two

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 2>MVP three Street years and so right now I think

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 2>the ballot should be embeid by a hair over Giannis,

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:11.799
<v Speaker 2>then a bit of a gap and then Jokic. But

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:14.319
<v Speaker 2>we'll see how it will. It is gonna come down

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 2>to the final week. It's gonna come down to the

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:16.959
<v Speaker 2>final week, all right.

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 4>Next, let's see, all right, last week, Lucas said he

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 4>Luka Doncic said he no longer feels the same joy.

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 3>While playing playing my tiny violin.

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 4>The Mavericks have lost eight out of their last eleven games,

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 4>and now said at the eleven seed in the west,

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:32.720
<v Speaker 4>is there any light at the end of this tunnel

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:33.839
<v Speaker 4>for your Slovenian son.

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 3>It's not great, man, I said the little mini violin thing.

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 3>I feel bad. I'm sorry, that's.

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Listening, man, it's not good. I can't put it all

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 2>on Kyrie.

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 3>That's really funny at the timing of.

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:51.840
<v Speaker 2>That, Well, yeah, it's he obviously hasn't helped.

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:53.760
<v Speaker 3>That is such funny timing.

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I can't put it all on Kyrie. And

0:39:56.760 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 2>put on Kyrie also, Kyrie. It seemed yesterday he tried

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:02.359
<v Speaker 2>to have another fan kicked out of the game.

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:04.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely.

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts on this? Oh so so let

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 2>me let me give you mine and go And then

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that there has to be something very extreme,

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:19.880
<v Speaker 2>said Lebron situation about his son when he had the.

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 3>Lady kicked out.

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 2>But like so, like so, here's the I don't know

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 2>what these fans are saying to Kyrie. I know a

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 2>few games ago he had someone kicked out. I know

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Russ had someone kicked out yesterday, and I know Kyrie

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 2>got into it with a fan yesterday, and then the

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 2>rest say and they.

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 3>Didn't kick them out.

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Here's here's the thing. Obviously, there are lines you cannot cross,

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 2>and I, without knowing what anybody said, I don't want

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:55.359
<v Speaker 2>to like blindly defend any of these fans. I also am,

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:59.320
<v Speaker 2>if I am being honest, if I saw Steph Curry,

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:07.840
<v Speaker 2>John Morant or Joel Embiid demand a fan be ejected,

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:13.359
<v Speaker 2>I would assume the fan deserved to be ejective. When

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 2>I when it's Russ or Kyrie, I'm not certain if

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 2>it was ejectable. I'm just not like, if somebody calls

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:28.919
<v Speaker 2>Westbrook Westbrook, they don't get ejected from the game. Now

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:32.840
<v Speaker 2>you can say that's a toxic part of sports, and

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I fine, but that this part of I think maybe

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 2>it shouldn't be. Maybe this is me. I'm going to

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 2>look back on this and say, oh, that was a

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 2>dumb take of mine. Years from now, we're more evolved

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 2>and better. I don't know. Part of being a pro

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 2>athlete and part of what defines the greats is being

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:58.839
<v Speaker 2>able to deal with the hostile road environment. Now there

0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 2>are we know, there are lines, and you should never

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 2>invoke someone's family, You should never invoke someone's creed, race,

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, any of those things, and I would argue

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:15.880
<v Speaker 2>that you should get it. Should be close to a

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 2>zero tolerance policy on obscene profanity, not because the athletes

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:23.799
<v Speaker 2>are offended, but because we still want to be able

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:27.920
<v Speaker 2>to bring kids to the games. And it's just no

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:34.280
<v Speaker 2>in a zero tolerance policy for any hate speech and profanity.

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:39.359
<v Speaker 2>It's embarrassing in my opinion for the person doing it,

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:46.840
<v Speaker 2>and there should be you know, but consistent taunting is allowed.

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:54.320
<v Speaker 2>So I gotta know, Like if someone says like to Kyrie, Kyrie,

0:42:55.360 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 2>every team hates you, Kyrie, You're not getting your money, Kyrie.

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Those things, I don't think you should be kicked out

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:09.479
<v Speaker 2>for that. Do you agree? And I just.

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 4>Look at the people that it is coming. I see

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 4>where you're going with the with the Westbrook and the

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:20.400
<v Speaker 4>Kyrie thing. Look these people, Russ Westbrook, Westbrook, I understand

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:22.799
<v Speaker 4>a little bit more because like I feel like he

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 4>doesn't really bring it to himself because it's people make

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 4>fun of him because of the of his play with Kyrie.

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 4>It's like outside stuff that he's kind of like brought

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 4>on himself. So it's like, uh.

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 2>But either way, again, I think you are allowed to

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 2>make fun of guys for their play. I don't do it.

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 2>I think it's kind of embarrassing for an adult to do.

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think that is ejectable behavior. So again,

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:52.879
<v Speaker 4>Want the tickets because you're that into the game, right

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 4>you want to correct And I again, I don't know

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:56.280
<v Speaker 4>what was said.

0:43:56.680 --> 0:44:00.200
<v Speaker 2>So this is more of a generic conversation the specific conversation.

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Like I think if you say to whomever you effing suck,

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 2>that should be a warning. Stop with the profanity or

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:17.720
<v Speaker 2>you're out of here. I think if you yell west

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Brook you're the worst shooter in the league, you shouldn't

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 2>even get talked to. I think that's totally imbound. I

0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:29.400
<v Speaker 2>think if you say something about, you know, with someone's

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:30.839
<v Speaker 2>wife or kid, you're out.

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:31.839
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean.

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 2>You say something racial, you're out. You make fun of

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Kyrie's religion, you're out. Though all those things, to me,

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think anyone disagrees with it. And again, maybe

0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 2>that's what was happening here. But I have my doubts.

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 2>I have my doubts when I would not have doubts

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 2>if Steph Curry pointed and said that person's got to go,

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I would just know, Okay, they you know what I mean?

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:56.239
<v Speaker 3>Like their's did not seem like the whole league love

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Steph Curry though.

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean, he's look like most popular players league

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:03.400
<v Speaker 2>for sure. It was really but hell, even if it

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 2>was James Harden, who everyone does not like. He's a

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:07.799
<v Speaker 2>polarizing player, right.

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 3>It seems like James Harden doesn't give a damn.

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:13.399
<v Speaker 2>I agree, which is why I'm saying if he said

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 2>someone's got to be kicked out, then and again, maybe

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's gonna come out. These guys said something horrible

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:24.040
<v Speaker 2>and it makes total sense. It just has hit my radar.

0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Seems to be a lot more have fans gotten way

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:32.239
<v Speaker 2>worse or have certain players gotten more sensitive. I think

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 2>that's a fair question.

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 4>Ever since that mood swing post conference postgame conference Kyrie had,

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:42.400
<v Speaker 4>that's right up his alley to kick a fan out, it.

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Seems like it. And it's like it's like, you know,

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 2>they call me out my name, and I'm gonna look

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 2>him in their eye and see if they're really about it,

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:54.839
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, definitely not about it. They definitely are

0:45:55.400 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 2>taking advantage of the fact that you are performing and

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 2>they think it is part of the fan experience to

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:08.919
<v Speaker 2>be a drunk idiot. Now again, if we want to.

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:14.279
<v Speaker 3>Say, tomatoes at comedy shows, oh, are they you? I

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:15.239
<v Speaker 3>mean I feel like they are.

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:18.400
<v Speaker 2>No. Actually, like the old that's an old thing, buddy,

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:19.319
<v Speaker 2>there's not I.

0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Mean nowadays, not tomatoes like shoes and stuff.

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:25.640
<v Speaker 2>No, there's no showing stuff thrown at comedy shows. No,

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:30.359
<v Speaker 2>not in modern society that you're watching like old Eddie

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Murphy movies set in nineteen thirties. Like, no, there's not.

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 2>No one's throwing fruit at bad comics in modern society.

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Do you just watched gangs in New York or something?

0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 3>Or concerts?

0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think people Okay, I don't set in modern society.

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 2>People are throwing things on stage.

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:49.799
<v Speaker 4>I don't know where you're where you think you are

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 4>right now? They're throwing stuff one hundred. They are throwing

0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 4>stuff in the crowd. Okay, not in the crowd, but

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 4>on stage.

0:46:57.160 --> 0:46:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm gonna need to see some mapp.

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:01.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the baby got an Adidas shoot thrown at him.

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 3>Oh and that's a baby.

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 2>No, but that's out of bounds. That person's got to

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 2>be thrown out. I'm saying that's not allowed, and I

0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 2>don't think it happens. Somebody says Warren't we talking about Luca? Listen,

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm I was trying to fill a buster tonight. I've

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 2>talked about fact the guy picked a win league MVP

0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:17.600
<v Speaker 2>and go to the finals might miss the plane entirely.

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:20.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not great for my guy, Luca. We did a

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:21.879
<v Speaker 2>forty minute a eight block. Let's take a quick break

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<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome back in episode one thirty eight, what's

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:03.360
<v Speaker 2>right with Nick? Right, don't forget your listener questions for

0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:06.200
<v Speaker 2>me or for Deman's put them in the chat right

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<v Speaker 2>now on YouTube and we will get to them in

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 2>the next segment. Try to do a quicker segment here,

0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:13.080
<v Speaker 2>since we did a forty minute a block. When this

0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:16.319
<v Speaker 2>show was originally created, the whole show was the entire

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:18.440
<v Speaker 2>show was supposed to be forty minutes. Yeah, it was

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be sixteen minute A block, sixteen minute B block,

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:23.000
<v Speaker 2>and an eight minute final segment.

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:23.880
<v Speaker 3>We've wandered off.

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:26.440
<v Speaker 2>We wandered off. Remember there used to be a buzzer

0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:28.840
<v Speaker 2>we used to do. We used to have little sound

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:32.919
<v Speaker 2>drops of sisters saying, hurry up, daddy. That scrapped those Yeah,

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:36.000
<v Speaker 2>we scrapped them. All right, what are we doing? Conspiracy corner.

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 3>All right, man, Yes, conspiracy corner with NBA texts. Yeah,

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:41.319
<v Speaker 3>alright man.

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:44.239
<v Speaker 2>So you know, look at the picture. Jeez, what I

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I like that picture. That's good.

0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:51.440
<v Speaker 4>You know how much I hate refs making everything about themselves. Yeah,

0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:54.400
<v Speaker 4>we're at the point to where stars are closing in

0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 4>or passing on the sixteenth tech threshold.

0:48:57.680 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 2>All right, let me disclain into the audience. In the

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 2>regular season, you get sixteen technical fouls, you get suspended

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:05.840
<v Speaker 2>for a game. After that, every other tech gets you suspended.

0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 2>So you get a one game suspended for your sixteenth, eighteenth, twentieth,

0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:13.200
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. That's how it works. So Dylan Brooks has

0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:16.879
<v Speaker 2>been suspended, Draymond has been suspended and picked up another one.

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 2>There's somebody else. I forget who, but keep going. Uh,

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:21.720
<v Speaker 2>there's some I'll.

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 4>Think, but there's some suspicious stuff going on with who's

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 4>getting called for what? It's time for demons A's conspiracy corner.

0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:31.160
<v Speaker 4>Do you think the league is doing too much to

0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 4>prevent big names from being teed up?

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Lucas the other one, Luca. Yeah, this guy got a

0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 2>TECH and then had it rescinded because he was gonna

0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:44.600
<v Speaker 2>be suspended the next day, the league's rescinded is technical.

0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:45.359
<v Speaker 3>That's what we're doing.

0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:50.600
<v Speaker 2>So here's what I think. I think Draymond is the

0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:59.080
<v Speaker 2>perfect example of guys understanding they get away with basically

0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:03.880
<v Speaker 2>everything once they get their first technical foul because refs

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:06.239
<v Speaker 2>don't want to throw them out. So in that game

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:10.960
<v Speaker 2>against the Pelicans, Draymond got a technical on and a

0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:13.319
<v Speaker 2>flagrant on the same play. Talking about when he got

0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:16.040
<v Speaker 2>subject when no, oh, no, no no, he got a

0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:19.560
<v Speaker 2>technical and a flagrant on the same play tail end

0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:22.359
<v Speaker 2>of the first half. He then in the second half

0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:26.320
<v Speaker 2>picked up an immediate fourth foul and the rest of

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:29.360
<v Speaker 2>the game just played like a lunatic and was incredibly

0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:32.440
<v Speaker 2>effective and was daring the refs to call him for

0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:35.439
<v Speaker 2>a fifth foul and daring the refs, And we saw

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:38.360
<v Speaker 2>in the Dallas game he had five fouls, and he

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:42.000
<v Speaker 2>just took license to essentially foul on every play, saying

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:45.160
<v Speaker 2>you won't foul me out. In the Pelicans game, he

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:48.920
<v Speaker 2>kicked Herb Jones in the head when he already had

0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:51.880
<v Speaker 2>a technical. He would have always gotten a technical for

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:54.799
<v Speaker 2>that previously, but because the refs didn't want to throw

0:50:54.880 --> 0:50:58.920
<v Speaker 2>him out, so it's a weird spot where Draymond and

0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:02.719
<v Speaker 2>Luca does this would agree as well. They act so

0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:10.880
<v Speaker 2>incredulous and angry the whole game that they raise the

0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 2>standard of what it takes for a TECH. And once

0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:16.840
<v Speaker 2>they get there first, they are daring the refs to

0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:21.040
<v Speaker 2>give him a second and kick him out. And if

0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:22.600
<v Speaker 2>the refs let you get away with it, they let

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:25.399
<v Speaker 2>you get away with it. And so I do think

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:28.799
<v Speaker 2>the NBA doesn't want these guys suspended, which is also

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:31.320
<v Speaker 2>why I don't know that you have to have the

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:32.600
<v Speaker 2>sixteen tech exactly.

0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:34.000
<v Speaker 4>I was just about to say, what's the point in

0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:37.200
<v Speaker 4>putting that rule there if it's never going to be used? Well,

0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:39.280
<v Speaker 4>like somebody has to be made an example.

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So the reason that exists is because Rashid Wallace,

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:50.560
<v Speaker 2>you vaguely remember him, He got forty one techs in

0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:56.440
<v Speaker 2>the season. Now, the refs hated him, and he did

0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 2>some of it to.

0:51:57.239 --> 0:51:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Himself also probably a different time.

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Twenty years ago, but he got So that's like, that

0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:07.759
<v Speaker 2>is like the unbreakable NBA record because you would have

0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:10.640
<v Speaker 2>been second for twenty games, like over the course of it,

0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 2>it never happened again. But he got forty one texts

0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:15.120
<v Speaker 2>in a season. All right, next, what are we doing here?

0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Right a game? Right or wrong? No?

0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:20.399
<v Speaker 3>No, no, sorry we played right or wrong today?

0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:23.720
<v Speaker 4>Uh so we got Rogers versus Green Bay is getting

0:52:23.719 --> 0:52:26.480
<v Speaker 4>pretty ugly with him going back and forth blaming each other.

0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:28.719
<v Speaker 4>But it seems like the Packers are just saying the

0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:31.799
<v Speaker 4>truth and Rogers is misleading people right or wrong.

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:33.799
<v Speaker 3>You can still trust Aaron Rodgers wrong.

0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's lost all credibility.

0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:52:37.280 --> 0:52:41.719
<v Speaker 2>He keeps saying all he wants is direct communication. And

0:52:41.840 --> 0:52:44.040
<v Speaker 2>then Gouden Kuntz is like, dude, want to answer our

0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:48.239
<v Speaker 2>calls or texts? I mean, I I just don't find

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:51.480
<v Speaker 2>him to be a credible narrator of anything, of anything.

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:54.839
<v Speaker 4>I think there's some long lasting effects of the ayahuasca

0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:56.960
<v Speaker 4>and he's got like a little bit of a misconception

0:52:57.080 --> 0:52:58.880
<v Speaker 4>on how society works maybe.

0:52:59.440 --> 0:53:05.560
<v Speaker 2>And also, by the way, the ayahuasca thing, I'm gonna

0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:11.080
<v Speaker 2>sound judgment all here, it seemed less impressive to me

0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:14.960
<v Speaker 2>and like evolved once I heard he did it with

0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:19.839
<v Speaker 2>Jake Paul. Jake Paul was with him, according to Jake Paul,

0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:25.279
<v Speaker 2>doing the ayahuasca like come on, man, like come on man,

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 2>and the it just he can't.

0:53:29.800 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Be too much of an awakening around Jake.

0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:35.640
<v Speaker 2>That's my thoughts. Those are my thoughts. I just but

0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:38.319
<v Speaker 2>the whole all I care about is direct communication. All

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:41.160
<v Speaker 2>I care about direct communication. I won't answer my calls

0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:43.800
<v Speaker 2>and texts. I'm not a fan of it, just flatly

0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:44.440
<v Speaker 2>not a fan of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Next, at the league meeting, Kyle Shanahan said that once healthy,

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<v Speaker 4>brock Perty is forty nine Ers quarterback.

0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:53.040
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I called this earlier. You did, I

0:53:53.120 --> 0:53:54.520
<v Speaker 3>feel like I did. I don't know you did.

0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 4>But however, he hasn't given up on Trey Lance just yet.

0:53:58.760 --> 0:54:01.239
<v Speaker 4>The old adages if you have two quarterbacks, you have none,

0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:04.040
<v Speaker 4>right or wrong. The forty nine Ers have a quarterback problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think it's right.

0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:09.480
<v Speaker 3>And I what do you think you could get for

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<v Speaker 3>Trey Lance?

0:54:10.239 --> 0:54:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Not much now, Not if you're publicly saying brock Party

0:54:13.840 --> 0:54:14.800
<v Speaker 2>has beat him out.

0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Or build up the stock for brock Party offer to

0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:22.800
<v Speaker 3>trade him. I don't, I mean, don't even need pieces.

0:54:23.000 --> 0:54:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the league wants brock Party. Yeah, the

0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:29.200
<v Speaker 2>league had a chance to get him, and everyone passed

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:31.560
<v Speaker 2>on him at every single one of their draft picks.

0:54:32.200 --> 0:54:34.600
<v Speaker 2>And in my opinion. He didn't really light the world

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:36.799
<v Speaker 2>on fire with San Francisco. I know he played well.

0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:39.400
<v Speaker 3>I ate, I just.

0:54:41.400 --> 0:54:44.040
<v Speaker 2>I obviously have not seen Trey Lance much. No one has.

0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:48.719
<v Speaker 2>But it is such an investment to not try to

0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:50.799
<v Speaker 2>see what he can do and what the offense can

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:52.879
<v Speaker 2>look like with him if he's healthy, to me, would

0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:58.239
<v Speaker 2>be crazy, like even legitimately crazy. Yeah, so I think

0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:00.360
<v Speaker 2>brock party is. They're in the same I was with

0:55:00.480 --> 0:55:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Garoppolo. You're just getting replacement level quarterback play, and

0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:09.960
<v Speaker 2>I'd be worried about surgery on your elbow and you're

0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:12.440
<v Speaker 2>throwing on Yeah, he didn't like It's not like you

0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:15.000
<v Speaker 2>had a rocket arm before that. I'd want to see

0:55:15.040 --> 0:55:16.319
<v Speaker 2>what I have with Trey Lance next.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, it seems as as if Dame time maybe

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:21.600
<v Speaker 3>coming to an end. In Portland.

0:55:22.200 --> 0:55:25.880
<v Speaker 4>Sham supported he expected. He expects potential offseason trade talks.

0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:28.440
<v Speaker 4>Right or wrong, Dame has played his last game as

0:55:28.440 --> 0:55:29.120
<v Speaker 4>a Trailblazer.

0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:34.719
<v Speaker 3>It's a little late, bud. What do you mean, what

0:55:34.800 --> 0:55:36.280
<v Speaker 3>do you mean it's in left Portland?

0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, listen, do you know what Dame's numbers are

0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:43.600
<v Speaker 2>this year? Like, give me a guess on how many

0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:46.040
<v Speaker 2>points you think he's averaging per game? He's played fifty

0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:48.320
<v Speaker 2>eight games. How many points?

0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:53.160
<v Speaker 3>Twenty six, thirty two? I was gonna say thirty original,

0:55:53.640 --> 0:55:54.240
<v Speaker 3>that's crazy.

0:55:54.400 --> 0:55:57.800
<v Speaker 2>He's averaging thirty two points, five rebounds, seven assists.

0:55:57.880 --> 0:55:59.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh bad, dam, it's not too late.

0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:02.279
<v Speaker 2>They well, no, but here's the It is too late

0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:06.880
<v Speaker 2>because he's averaging thirty two, five and seven. And here's

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:09.719
<v Speaker 2>the entire list of teams. The Blazers have a better

0:56:09.800 --> 0:56:14.800
<v Speaker 2>record than the Rockets, the Spurs, the Pistons, the Hornets.

0:56:15.440 --> 0:56:17.440
<v Speaker 2>That's the list. That's it.

0:56:18.800 --> 0:56:21.520
<v Speaker 3>So are you saying like who needs them?

0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:26.319
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm saying like it'd be one thing if it's like, ah,

0:56:26.400 --> 0:56:30.680
<v Speaker 2>we just can't break through to a championship, you can't

0:56:30.719 --> 0:56:34.920
<v Speaker 2>break through to the playing Oh you're the and it's

0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:38.719
<v Speaker 2>not Dame's fault. Listen, there is one team and one

0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:43.200
<v Speaker 2>team only that. Because here's the thing, the prome for Dame.

0:56:44.680 --> 0:56:49.440
<v Speaker 2>What team could trade for him and still be a

0:56:49.640 --> 0:56:52.880
<v Speaker 2>champion contender? You don't say what I mean, like, what

0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:57.040
<v Speaker 2>team would not have to give up so much that

0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:01.600
<v Speaker 2>they're they're still a champion and contender. I said there's

0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:07.520
<v Speaker 2>one team, So it's like oh, the Knicks not a contenter. Sorry,

0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:10.920
<v Speaker 2>you trade RJ. Barrett, Maybe they'll do it. I mean

0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:13.880
<v Speaker 2>they'd be good Dame, but Dame and Jalen brunts and

0:57:14.040 --> 0:57:16.959
<v Speaker 2>your entire your backcourt both are six to one or under.

0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:22.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's recipe. Uh. The look in the West,

0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:27.280
<v Speaker 2>like who could trade for him? Could the Pelicans? Maybe

0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:31.320
<v Speaker 2>the Pelicans, but then you're relying on on Zion being held.

0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:34.800
<v Speaker 2>You have trade brandon ingram all the Thunder. The Thunder

0:57:34.840 --> 0:57:36.920
<v Speaker 2>are an interesting one. They definitely could trade for him.

0:57:36.960 --> 0:57:39.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they'd be a contender immediately, but

0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:42.960
<v Speaker 2>they're you know, Dame and Shay. That's interesting. There's two

0:57:43.000 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Eastern Conference teams that should be calling repeatedly the Nets, no, no, no,

0:57:51.920 --> 0:57:55.600
<v Speaker 2>no no. The first one is Boston. Jalen Brown has

0:57:55.640 --> 0:57:59.320
<v Speaker 2>given a lot of it seems like he's gone and

0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:04.520
<v Speaker 2>that it's the best the Blazers could do. Get Jalen

0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Brown and a couple of draft picks that would be

0:58:08.480 --> 0:58:12.760
<v Speaker 2>perfect for Boston. Perfect for Boston, and you can win

0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:16.600
<v Speaker 2>the title. You have enough defense that even the downgrade

0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:19.800
<v Speaker 2>from Brown to Dame, you're fine and you can win

0:58:19.840 --> 0:58:26.600
<v Speaker 2>the title. The perfect fit is Philly. Philly trades Tobias Harris,

0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Maxie and every pick they have available to them. Damon

0:58:32.640 --> 0:58:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Embiid would be perfect. Dame stretches the defense out so far.

0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Harden if he stays, can run point. Even if Harden leaves,

0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:47.400
<v Speaker 2>I still think they would be deadly. Uh, that would

0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:50.000
<v Speaker 2>be a fun team. Man, oh on two ks. But

0:58:50.200 --> 0:58:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Boston is to me a really intriguing one. And so

0:58:56.840 --> 0:58:59.240
<v Speaker 2>I understand Dame has said, like, you know, I'm not

0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:01.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to ring Ja, I'm trying to build it all

0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:03.080
<v Speaker 2>these things. I get all that, and he can do

0:59:03.160 --> 0:59:07.400
<v Speaker 2>whatever he wants. But if your team can't even make

0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:13.400
<v Speaker 2>the play in and you're having a career season and

0:59:13.560 --> 0:59:16.000
<v Speaker 2>it's not like they have these it's Shadon Sharp's fine.

0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:18.760
<v Speaker 2>They just they haven't been able to build a quality

0:59:18.880 --> 0:59:21.480
<v Speaker 2>defense the whole time he's been there. They made one

0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:24.960
<v Speaker 2>conference finals a few years ago, and that's that's it.

0:59:25.560 --> 0:59:28.320
<v Speaker 4>All right, next, all right, if you needed one guy

0:59:28.400 --> 0:59:31.080
<v Speaker 4>at his apex for one game or one series, who

0:59:31.120 --> 0:59:33.480
<v Speaker 4>would it be. Yesterday on the Herd, you said you

0:59:33.560 --> 0:59:36.560
<v Speaker 4>consider Shack. Right or wrong, Shack will be the number

0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:36.920
<v Speaker 4>one pick.

0:59:37.280 --> 0:59:39.120
<v Speaker 2>So this is a take I've had for a while,

0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:43.120
<v Speaker 2>and this is a fun game to play, which is.

0:59:45.080 --> 0:59:45.440
<v Speaker 3>Who is?

0:59:45.840 --> 0:59:48.680
<v Speaker 2>And I think the answer is right? Who is helped

0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:52.360
<v Speaker 2>and who is hurt the most? In all time rankings

0:59:52.920 --> 0:59:57.160
<v Speaker 2>by this specific question. So if we are ranking guys

0:59:57.240 --> 1:00:00.920
<v Speaker 2>like on my fifty players list, right, so I'll give

1:00:00.960 --> 1:00:03.800
<v Speaker 2>you a guy who did not make the list, was

1:00:03.880 --> 1:00:06.760
<v Speaker 2>not even really that strongly considered for the list, but

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<v Speaker 2>would probably be a top twenty five pick for this question.

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<v Speaker 2>I get him at his absolute apex. Tracy McGrady. Tracy

1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:20.800
<v Speaker 2>McGrady is absolute apex. Was neck and neck with Kobe

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<v Speaker 2>for the best perimeter player for a couple of years,

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<v Speaker 2>but he didn't stay there, had dealt with injuries, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have playoff success. He plummets Who's hurt the most by this?

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan, I had number five on my list,

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<v Speaker 2>but there are fifteen guys that I would take above

1:00:39.880 --> 1:00:41.960
<v Speaker 2>him if you're telling me, I get their absolute apex.

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<v Speaker 2>So why would Shack be my answer that Shaq is

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<v Speaker 2>my guy at his absolute apex over Lebron, over Jordan,

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<v Speaker 2>over everyone else. Wild When I was talking to him

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<v Speaker 2>about this, he mentioned, Steph, here's the thing. Any perimeter player.

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<v Speaker 2>If your entire plan is to take them out of

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<v Speaker 2>the game, you can to it. Agree, If you're willing

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<v Speaker 2>to play four on three, you can just double them

1:01:11.880 --> 1:01:14.280
<v Speaker 2>the length of the court and they're done. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. Like the now you probably lose because

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<v Speaker 2>you're playing four on three against NBA players. But Wilds

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<v Speaker 2>was like, so you're telling me I get on fire, Steph.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would I take that? The answer is because I

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<v Speaker 2>can just prevent him from getting the ball. Lebron has

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<v Speaker 2>shown throughout his career if you double him, he is

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<v Speaker 2>going to find the open man shack at his apex

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<v Speaker 2>was doubled every play, And this is what I want

1:01:39.920 --> 1:01:43.240
<v Speaker 2>to remind people of Shaquille O'Neals. Apex was those three

1:01:43.320 --> 1:01:49.240
<v Speaker 2>straight finals with the Lakers. The first finals against the Pacers,

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<v Speaker 2>he averaged thirty eight, seventeen and three with three blocks

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<v Speaker 2>a game. His next finals against the Sixers, who had

1:02:03.640 --> 1:02:07.480
<v Speaker 2>the defensive player of the year to Kimbe Mutombo playing center,

1:02:08.400 --> 1:02:12.480
<v Speaker 2>he averaged thirty three, sixteen.

1:02:12.360 --> 1:02:14.760
<v Speaker 3>And five, slowed him down a bit with.

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<v Speaker 2>Four blocks per game. The next finals against the Nets,

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<v Speaker 2>he averaged thirty six, thirteen and four with three blocks

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<v Speaker 2>per game. So Shaquille O'Neal over the course of three finals.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what he did.

1:02:34.600 --> 1:02:38.320
<v Speaker 2>He gave you forty four minutes per night. He averaged

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six points per game. He averaged fifteen rebounds per game,

1:02:45.400 --> 1:02:50.840
<v Speaker 2>four assists and three blocks over three consecutive finals. He's

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<v Speaker 2>my number one pick. My picks would be Shack one,

1:02:56.080 --> 1:03:00.240
<v Speaker 2>bron to Jordan three for peak of their paw our

1:03:00.960 --> 1:03:05.280
<v Speaker 2>NBA history for one game or one series. Now that

1:03:05.600 --> 1:03:09.600
<v Speaker 2>like that does not mean that they are the that

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<v Speaker 2>that is the all time rankings. Who else trying to

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<v Speaker 2>think like modern so like of current players, guys who

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<v Speaker 2>are like really helped by this is a guy like

1:03:24.840 --> 1:03:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Donovan Mitchell. An a triple plus Donovan Mitchell game, he

1:03:30.120 --> 1:03:34.560
<v Speaker 2>ranks way higher than his actual ranking. A guy who's

1:03:34.640 --> 1:03:37.560
<v Speaker 2>hurt by this is Jokis, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Like because his highs aren't as high, but he's so consistent.

1:03:41.360 --> 1:03:43.760
<v Speaker 2>So I think Tatum is hurt a bit by this.

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<v Speaker 2>Tate's probably top five player, but I don't think there's five.

1:03:47.680 --> 1:03:49.520
<v Speaker 2>I think there's more than five guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I take you out him and that's him versus

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<v Speaker 3>the Bucks last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh yeah, But I I think so maybe he stays

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<v Speaker 2>about where he is. Maybe that's about right. Maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>stays about where he is. I'm trying to think of

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<v Speaker 2>who is a guy who is hurt by this as

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<v Speaker 2>far as his you know what? In this right now,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see if it changed in the playoffs. Lebron's probably

1:04:17.920 --> 1:04:21.520
<v Speaker 2>hurt by this a bit because Lebron doesn't have those

1:04:21.800 --> 1:04:26.480
<v Speaker 2>like monster games so much anymore. But it's a fun

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<v Speaker 2>conversation to me, and it's a different conversation than the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest players ever.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, next, all right, Ronnie James took himself to

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<v Speaker 4>a whole new level in the McDonald's All American Game.

1:04:35.760 --> 1:04:38.480
<v Speaker 4>Yet he's still not committed to any school for next year.

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<v Speaker 4>Right or wrong, Bronni will be a Trojan.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, and I don't have an answer on this.

1:04:48.800 --> 1:04:52.760
<v Speaker 2>I know he crushed. I mean, I gotta give this

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<v Speaker 2>kid credit, man, I mean, he's like turned himself into

1:04:56.120 --> 1:05:01.480
<v Speaker 2>a legit top ten prospect. It's unbelievable. He's even out

1:05:01.520 --> 1:05:07.400
<v Speaker 2>his shot. He's got these great instincts. I saw somebody

1:05:07.440 --> 1:05:10.760
<v Speaker 2>say he has his dad's athleticism, and somebody correctly said

1:05:10.800 --> 1:05:15.720
<v Speaker 2>on Twitter, no one currently alive has Lebron's athleticism, including

1:05:15.840 --> 1:05:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Lebron anymore, which is accurate. But uh, I mean, I

1:05:23.560 --> 1:05:25.600
<v Speaker 2>don't know where he's gonna go. I do think he'll

1:05:25.600 --> 1:05:28.160
<v Speaker 2>add some breadcrumbs to where Lebron's gonna go.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we got one more. As you guys all know,

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<v Speaker 2>Demante was off last week looking for a place in

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles. Right or wrong, Demanse has already gone Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is a YouTube exclusive where we're gonna show

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<v Speaker 2>you guys something that I don't know if you guys

1:05:45.560 --> 1:05:48.840
<v Speaker 2>are ready for. Has Demanse already gone Hollywood? And we

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<v Speaker 2>had to crop that picture because we weren't sure if

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<v Speaker 2>you were pulling the Lebron and just naked under a towel,

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<v Speaker 2>But you're in a parking lot showing off your body

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>So there it is.

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<v Speaker 2>There's Lebron and Demonte in the steamer room. I do

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<v Speaker 2>gotta say, you're in great shape, buddy. I'm happy for you.

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<v Speaker 2>You look great. I was surprised to see that on

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<v Speaker 2>IG I'm not gonna lie to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't really.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really post on there because you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>do the podcast, so I haven't really found my middle

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<v Speaker 4>ground as far as whenever I post something, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like people look.

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<v Speaker 2>At it like like you're a public figure.

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<v Speaker 3>What Yeah, yeah, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, is that what you were gonna say?

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<v Speaker 4>So I was just gonna say, like, I feel like,

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<v Speaker 4>when you see me on this podcast, you don't really

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<v Speaker 4>expect me to post something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, yes, it's you know, it's the private life,

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<v Speaker 2>public life exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was me before, like I mean, a long

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<v Speaker 3>time ago. I guess. I kind of like, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>a yeah, what do you mean that was? That was?

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<v Speaker 2>That was taken this week?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I'm saying that that's how you posted exactly

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<v Speaker 3>to do it exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, I was gonna say, are you like you're

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<v Speaker 2>posting old pig look how good I used to look? Okay, No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fair. All right, I hear. We have a surprise

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<v Speaker 2>package to open and we answer your listener questions. That's next,

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<v Speaker 2>what's right?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back in episode one thirty eight, one of our

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<v Speaker 2>longest episodes ever. It's great to have Demanse back. I

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<v Speaker 2>think this might be your best performance. You've done a

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<v Speaker 2>great job. Before we get to the listener, questions. You

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<v Speaker 2>guys have a surprise for me.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's obviously been a while since football season ended

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<v Speaker 4>with all the success from the Chiefs and the Jaguars

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<v Speaker 4>gave you a really big hit. Okay, so we've got

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<v Speaker 4>the perfect thing for.

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<v Speaker 2>That, my hat. My finally, Oh custom, I didn't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, Okay, I see what I was supposed to. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>oh that's how they work. Oh, we've got the big hats,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. Well, Demanse gets these put together and then

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<v Speaker 2>I'll put them on. I'm gonna read some listener questions

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<v Speaker 2>because this is gonna take a minute. Try not to

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<v Speaker 2>break them. Don't break them. Uh. Negative four and two

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<v Speaker 2>said which teams would be ideal in signing Zeke from

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<v Speaker 2>both perspectives. That's an interesting one. I his market is

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna be that strong. I you know what, I

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have read that question because I hadn't really thought

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<v Speaker 2>about it that much Detroit. Maybe because Jamal Williams is gone,

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<v Speaker 2>but I haven't really you know what. I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be totally honest. I haven't been studying teams running back

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<v Speaker 2>depth charts post free agency. So I'm gonna answer to

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<v Speaker 2>that sorry, negative four and two. Ronnie Lucente said, Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think about Bronni and what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think is the best route for him and Lebron to

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<v Speaker 2>play together both league wise and fatherwise. Well, here is

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<v Speaker 2>the other interesting thing about Bronni. Once upon a time,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt Lebron was saying, you know, I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>to wherever Bronni gets drapped by as a way to

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<v Speaker 2>ensure Bronni gets drafted. But if Bronni keeps this upward trajectory,

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<v Speaker 2>he might be a lottery pick, in which case a

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<v Speaker 2>bad team would be drafting him, in which case I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if Lebron wants to do that. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a fascinating thing. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>know he wants to play with him, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what the exact plan is, to be totally honest. Next,

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<v Speaker 2>h Nick, though you don't believe in the nuggets, oh

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<v Speaker 2>you have them with a small slice championship Pie, what

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<v Speaker 2>does denver path to a championship looks like? Denver's path

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<v Speaker 2>to a championship looks like this. They're obviously the one seed.

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<v Speaker 2>They get Minnesota in round one and beat them. They

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<v Speaker 2>then in round two, get the Suns or the Clippers,

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<v Speaker 2>both of which are dealing with injuries, and they beat them.

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<v Speaker 2>And in round three they get Sacramento and Sabonis can't

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<v Speaker 2>deal with Jokic. That's their path. Now I'm putting on

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<v Speaker 2>the What's right hat. This is awesome. Yeah, this is great,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm wearing the Prince that was promised hat at work.

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<v Speaker 2>These big hats are sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. Oh yeah, see, I gave you that one because

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<v Speaker 3>it didn't match my fit.

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<v Speaker 2>So oh that's fine. You can wear the prince that

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<v Speaker 2>was promised You're a Trevor Lawrence guy nowadays.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Average player asked do you think the Nuggets should trade

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<v Speaker 4>Michael Porter Junior and Murray for Dame?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that trade wouldn't work, and I don't think the

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Blazers are gonna want draft picks. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the Blazers can do better than Michael Porter Junior.

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<v Speaker 2>H Henry Miller said, never participate in book book club

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<v Speaker 2>before a Little History of the World, but I really

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed reading it week to week with you guys. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you have any other book recommendations?

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<v Speaker 3>I will.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll pick that up again, probably post NBA. What you

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<v Speaker 2>have a book reader.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a book for you, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's that?

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<v Speaker 3>Titles a little long?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me while you're looking it up, I'll read this.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you play the fut Champions on FIFA twenty three? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>I did not. I have not played it, so I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you what the max wins I got

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty wins? What's the book? Is this a book

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<v Speaker 2>you've read? Demase?

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<v Speaker 3>No? Then why the animal Kingdom is full of con artists?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's what the book is called. Let

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<v Speaker 3>me see mine.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, it's in the it's in the New Yorker. It's

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<v Speaker 4>it's I talked about it with Nana a lot in Naruba.

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<v Speaker 4>It's pretty funny, oh okay, pretty funny, very interesting, like

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<v Speaker 4>some some birds have like warning calls, Like it's basically

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<v Speaker 4>about how the animals they lie and then they cheat

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<v Speaker 4>you Like, is this a book or is this?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's like you go down to.

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<v Speaker 4>A book, like there's a book on there and maybe

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<v Speaker 4>it's just a banana said that it was.

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<v Speaker 3>A book that she she went, oh okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Abbreviated version of Bates story in his new book The

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<v Speaker 2>Liars of Nature and the Nature of Liars.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's that's the book. You definitely should get it.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a little anecdote about, uh, this bird that has

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<v Speaker 4>like a warning call and where other birds are eating,

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<v Speaker 4>it sends out the warning call, so they think that

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<v Speaker 4>there's danger amongst them, and then he goes and gets

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<v Speaker 4>the food. Really yeah, okay, awesome, I will. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of animals that have like created these things.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it to see if other animals that works

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<v Speaker 4>in their favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm texting myself the link to it. Okay, you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting a phone call from Kansas.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to go.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a great show. Uh yeah, there it is

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<v Speaker 2>Liars of Nature in the Nature of Liars. See you

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<v Speaker 2>guys on Tuesday. What's right,