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Speaker 2: In episode one thirty eight, What's right with Nick? Right,

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Speaker 2: Demons is back. He has a few shows left with us,

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Speaker 2: but maybe there's We're not sure when they're gonna be

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Speaker 2: until he moves to LA and then is off for

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Speaker 2: a bit and then is back late at least back

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Speaker 2: on the show. But a proud parent moment for me

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Speaker 2: if I may three kids and Demonse just got back

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Speaker 2: from Los Angeles, where he found an apartment, signed the lease,

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Speaker 2: got ready for his whole new life in LA. Five

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Speaker 2: minutes living five minutes from work, which in LA is

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Speaker 2: such a wine. I was following someone on Twitter yesterday

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Speaker 2: that showed that the drive from Santa Monica to Hollywood

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Speaker 2: at some time yesterday the drive was thirty minutes longer

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Speaker 2: than the bike ride because the traffic was so bad

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Speaker 2: and you're in a spot. So Demanse doing big things,

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Speaker 2: just shy of his twenty fifth birthday. His youngest sister, Deanna,

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Speaker 2: fresh off being cast as Annie in Annie at her

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Speaker 2: she just got cast without well, she just got cast

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Speaker 2: as Charlotte in Charlotte's Web in their next production. And

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Speaker 2: Demand's middle sister is living her best I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: let's just be honest, want to be rich New York

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Speaker 2: City kid life, having gone from Cabo to Aruba and

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Speaker 2: is currently on the bus to her friend's house in

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Speaker 2: the Hamptons where she's just spending the weekend before she

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Speaker 2: goes off to college. So all the kids doing great.

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Speaker 2: Demonse's younger sister, not the youngest, but the one you

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Speaker 2: guys have not seen yet, is the one who, over

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Speaker 2: the next few weeks is going to be sitting in

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Speaker 2: Demansey's seat because her bougie school has decided that for

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Speaker 2: seniors at this part of the school year. Don't need

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Speaker 2: to go to school anymore. Tuition stays the same, believe

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Speaker 2: it or not. But they do something called Bridge where

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Speaker 2: they do like professional things. So is gonna be hosting

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Speaker 2: this show alongside me for a few weeks. But let's

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Speaker 2: get right to the show. It's great to have you back.

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Speaker 2: Here's what is not on today's show. Baseball Opening Day

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Speaker 2: missed the cut. Gotta tell you my apologies kind of

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Speaker 2: A six billion dollar bid for the Washington Commanders. Two

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Speaker 2: six billion dollar bids, which, as my buddy Kevin Wilde said,

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Speaker 2: uh means six billions on enough. If two people will

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Speaker 2: pay it, then somebody's gotta pay more. Speaking of my

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Speaker 2: buddy Kevin Wilds, so I gotta well and also light

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Speaker 2: the beam Sacramento ending the playoff drought that is going

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Speaker 2: to find its way into the show at some point.

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Speaker 2: There's demands top of a Sacramento sign with a beam

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Speaker 2: coming out of his chest. We're watching us on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: I would like to say something about Kevin Wilds. So,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Wilds went on the Bill Simmons podcast, which is

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Speaker 2: it for years, and he does a thing called half

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Speaker 2: baked ideas, and they're very funny. Typically, So one of

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Speaker 2: his half baked ideas was, if you're going out to

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Speaker 2: want to fight and you don't want to fight, a

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Speaker 2: product product called detachable cauliflower ear that you put on

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Speaker 2: you know what college flower ear is that the UFC

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Speaker 2: was a really funny, I thought, good idea. Another one

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Speaker 2: of his half baked ideas was a barber dentist, which

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Speaker 2: was every time you go to the b's that when

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Speaker 2: get a teeth cleaning. That way, the dentist doesn't yell

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Speaker 2: have to talk to anybody. Thought that was a good idea.

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Speaker 2: But those are his types of half baked ideas. Snuck

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Speaker 2: into the middle of Kevin Wild's half bake was this

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Speaker 2: take and I quote, what about this bill challenge bait

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Speaker 2: the example he used do you remember the NFC Championship game,

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Speaker 2: DeVante Smith caught the ball but didn't actually catch the ball,

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Speaker 2: get the other team to challenge while ago, Oh, you feel.

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Speaker 3: Like I did. Oh, it's idea.

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Speaker 2: It's because the day after that game, I gave that

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Speaker 2: would do it eventually. Kevin Wilds two months later, does

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Speaker 2: it on a podcast with ten XR subscribers, and now

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that was where you were going with it,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I said something like that about that exact moment.

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Speaker 2: I've looked this guy in the eye and do tell

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Speaker 2: just so shamelessly. Because again all his other one of

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Speaker 2: one of those robotic vacuums. Oh yeah, a roomba that

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Speaker 2: like one of those girls from the Shining that goes

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Speaker 2: They're all very funny, they're all very good ideas. They

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Speaker 2: all also have nothing to do with sports, and they

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Speaker 2: all except for the one that he took from me.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the show, Tomanse. Sorry, Wilds,

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Speaker 2: but that's you and me. You and me. We're done, professor,

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Speaker 4: So the lamar fiasco continues, and it's getting pretty strange.

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Speaker 3: Man. You think him not having an agent has no

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Speaker 3: excuse for teams not wanting if we're being truthful.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Now he's on Twitter constantly causing a ruckus logical

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Speaker 3: Could he end up forcing himself out of the league entirely?

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Speaker 2: Okay? That seems extreme. It is not off the board,

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Speaker 2: could sit out this year. So there's so much here. First,

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Speaker 2: let me say this, Lamartin needs better people around for

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Speaker 2: they're not well crafted messages if you are trying to

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Speaker 2: interview a sin actually for jobs across the league. Now,

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Speaker 2: I understand some might say his interview processes turn on

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Speaker 2: public facing position for a franchise, and it is specially

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Speaker 2: if you have any holes in your game or any concerns.

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Speaker 2: Folks are gonna nitpick everything, and there is a very

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Speaker 2: how we evaluate still to this day, black quarterbacks and

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Speaker 2: whether people question their processing and all this stuff, which

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Speaker 2: ultimately is just questioning their intelligence. And Lamar's poorly phrased

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Speaker 2: tweets do not help him.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you a nothing doesn't help him. He said,

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Speaker 2: check out my fan page. This is Lamar Jackson's website.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna show it to you, Demanse. It does

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Speaker 4: Of of a of a multi exactly right if you were.

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Speaker 2: His about me page on the website has accolades like

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Speaker 2: two time Pro Bowler League MVP. Just bullet points College

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Speaker 2: is the only player, like this is not this.

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Speaker 3: Is It makes me feel so bad for Lamar.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't it. That's what when I say, listen, I couldn't

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Speaker 2: design a website, by the way, if I designed a website,

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Speaker 2: you gotta have a team around you. And the team

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Speaker 2: around him that he evidently has is this dude his

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Speaker 2: business partner, Ken, who the was reported was calling teams

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Speaker 2: on his behalf even though he's not an agent. Lamar

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Speaker 2: said he's not calling teams.

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Speaker 3: By the way.

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Speaker 2: He and I are releasing the entire gym, which is

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Speaker 2: just like a portable gym setup, and that's his business partner.

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Speaker 2: Lamar also promised an interview with Big Trust Productions that

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Speaker 2: an you hasn't come. He's not handling this properly he

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Speaker 2: then I'll talk about the NFL side of it, because

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Speaker 2: I think I think so many people are watching this

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Speaker 2: in so many directions, right the Ravens other teams and

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Speaker 2: Lamar the other I am not coming down on him

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Speaker 2: in a judgmental way. It is more advice, Like people

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Speaker 2: usually fooling themselves. So I will use myself as an example.

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Speaker 2: I don't really understand how finances, investments, taxes, any of

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Speaker 2: I have a very base level understanding. I pay somebody.

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Speaker 2: Matt says they can tell from all my tags beets

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Speaker 2: I maybe you guys don't remember twenty seven nothing. I

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Speaker 2: risky in its own regard. You have to a lot

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Speaker 2: being you know, swindles. Yeah, but there are certain Your

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Speaker 2: mom has built this entire store, designed, every piece of

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Speaker 2: It's beautiful. She is not great at promotion social media stuff.

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Speaker 2: She hired somebody to run that for the store, someone

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Speaker 2: who that's what they're an expert in. Now life is

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Speaker 2: much much harder obviously if you don't have the financial

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Speaker 2: And it'd be one thing if it's like, Nope, I

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Speaker 2: He's not, And I do wish he had better people

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Speaker 2: invoke Lebron, but one of the smartest things Lebron ever

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Speaker 2: and then have those people run his empire. Maverick was

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Speaker 2: Maverick was senior, Lebron was freshman. They won a state

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Speaker 2: Maverick went to go work for Nike learn I think

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Speaker 2: And Maverick is a brilliant guy. And now Maverick has

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Speaker 2: helped build Lebron's empire. Lebron met Rich Paul in a

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Speaker 2: Okay. So it's just like, so that is where I

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Speaker 2: We could argue about would you rather have Lamar or Trevor?

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers got picked up after having Lamar Jackson had

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. But I also do think that if

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Speaker 2: every game is precious. You were all in on a

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Speaker 2: for Deshaun, he was missing time. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: The other day.

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Speaker 4: It's like Lamar's pray style, how he sold mobile and

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Speaker 2: They could maybe include him in a trade. Detroit. We've

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Speaker 4: Lamar had interesting going there, to be honest, I just

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Speaker 2: I think players that have played against Belichick, they are

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Speaker 2: If I were Lamar, I would ideally want to just

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Speaker 2: He had won one solitary playoff game, just like me.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I don't want to pay three percent.

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Speaker 2: I got a stage through to the three percent. I

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Speaker 2: let's keep going go ahead, all right, we're on real quick, sorry, Lamar.

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Speaker 2: Week one next year is playing quarterback for the Ravens?

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Speaker 3: He's on another team.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you do think this gets done?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm rocking with whatever team he's on.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be what you do.

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Speaker 4: The Lamar disrespect is crazy. I feel like he needs

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Speaker 2: How much how much of this is because you like

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Speaker 2: you use this big Lamar Jackson guy. All these NFL

433
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: gams listening to Showler like exactly now, man, you have

434
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 2: to say, and I'm an asshole for not giving him

435
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: two hundred million dollars. You won't use him in a

436
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: Madden game? You want me to put my franchise with him?

437
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 2: All right?

438
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: Next?

439
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 4: Oh?

440
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 3: All right?

441
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 4: Katie made his second Son's debut last night, and since

442
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 4: coming back, Lebron has led the Lakers to a.

443
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 3: Split versus Patrick Beverley.

444
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 4: Stop it both Now the opportunity to catch heat in

445
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 4: the final two weeks of the season.

446
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 3: Which team needed their starback more? Oh?

447
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 2: You know, oddly the Suns because they need to get

448
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: on I So there's a lot here before we get

449
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 2: to any of it. Did you see Lebron's postgame interview yesterday?

450
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, where it's like basically naked.

451
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 2: Yes, So okay, so I mean here, I should have

452
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 2: told the cruisers, but there it is. I what do

453
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: you make of that?

454
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: Do you think that there was trying to show his youth?

455
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: See, I think you nailed it. I don't think that

456
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 2: was an accident. Lebron is doing this interview in an

457
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 2: undersized towel, right show like let the eye by and out? Uh,

458
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: I still got it that. I really think that's what

459
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 2: it is. I'm the oldest guy in the league that

460
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: still plays, and I just want to remind everybody because

461
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: he does weird things sometimes. Because when the playoffs started

462
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: in the bubble, he intentionally didn't like again, this is speculation,

463
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: but I know I'm right. He let all the gray

464
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: and his beard come in as much as like I've

465
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: ever seen. It didn't cut it, And I think it

466
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 2: was psychological thing. Yeah, it was like, okay, ah, you

467
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: guys are tired, the Bubble's been tough, blah blah blah.

468
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: I am reminding you I'm an old man and I'm

469
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: gonna rush and now I think he's going the other way.

470
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: It's like I missed a month. I'm thirty eight, I'm

471
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: in year twenty, and I'm gonna do this interview basically

472
00:28:55,040 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: in the nude, yeah, and like make it newsworthy to

473
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: where it goes places to remind everybody, because that was

474
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: not an accident. Jordan famously would never do interviews until

475
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: he was.

476
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 3: Well. But like.

477
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: The suit, earrings and everything, and a lot of guys

478
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: do that, Lebron, I've seen him do these things shirtless.

479
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: I've never seen him like that. That was noteworthy to me.

480
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: I don't think I've seen any player like that in

481
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: post I haven't seen too many postgame interviews, but that.

482
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: That it hit your radar right on here, all right?

483
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: So on Durant. Durant gave an interview with the Shams

484
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: said he doesn't care about his legacy anymore. Everyone's just

485
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: gonna discredit him no matter what. All this stuff. I

486
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: don't know that I fully believe him, but set that aside.

487
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: Here's what I do know. I will vociferously defend Kevin

488
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: de if they win this title and anyone tries to

489
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: discredit this Suns team was drawing dead to win the

490
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: championship zero percent. They had their window had closed. Chris

491
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: Paul has moved to a different stage of his career.

492
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: Booker's a really good player, but not good enough to

493
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: carry a team to a championship as you know as

494
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: the unquestioned alpha without a great co star. I know

495
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: they made the final, the finals two years ago and

496
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: Booker was the best player, but he wasn't. Chris Paul

497
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: was the was the glue of that team, and Booker

498
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: was a way overqualified number two. And they lost anyway,

499
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: The lost four straight. So I think that this is

500
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: not like the Warriors at all. It's not even like

501
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: the Nets when they trade for Harden and they look like, okay,

502
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: they've stacked the deck. It's it's like if the Nets

503
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: had won the title last year, I don't think anyone

504
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: would have discredited it. And this Suns team, we have

505
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: proof of concept with them, seventy games of them without Durant,

506
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: they were not a championship caliber team. If he parachutes

507
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: in and they win the title, he gets to me.

508
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: If he parachutes in and they make the finals, massive

509
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: massive credit. So I don't think that's going to happen now.

510
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: On the Lebron thing.

511
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: He's a ring hitman. Well, what do you mean if

512
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: if you win the title with him?

513
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: I mean, we've never seen We've never seen a team

514
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: acquire their best player mid season and win the title.

515
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: We've seen the defending champion Rockets acquired Clyde Drexler.

516
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: So we're still saying Curry was the better one.

517
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: No, they didn't acquire a mid season Oh no, We've

518
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: seen guys KG and Ray Allen came to the Celtics,

519
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: they immediately won a title. We've seen that. We saw

520
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis join the Lakers. They wanted title. He was

521
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 2: the second best guy. But in the offseason, we've seen it.

522
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: I'm talking about a mid season trade. We saw the

523
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: ninety five Rockets ad Clyde. They were the defending champs,

524
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: they were the sixth seed. They end up winning the title.

525
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: We saw the Pistons make a massive trade in eighty

526
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: nine and win the title, but again, Isaiah was their

527
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: best player. We've never seen Wilt was traded mid season.

528
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: They didn't win. We've never seen a team get their

529
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: best guy and go win the title, and they'd be

530
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: doing it having played ten games together. So that is noteworthy.

531
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 2: On his end. The Lebron thing is fascinating because I

532
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: do think the Lakers are a super dangerous team, ring

533
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: super dangerous Lebron. AD and D'Angelo Russell have only played

534
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: three games together. They haven't lost. AD. You can't rely

535
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:06,239
Speaker 2: on him every night, but when he's good, he's an

536
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: unquestioned the best. AD is one of the top eight

537
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: guys in the league. The problem for him is he's

538
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: not consistently say his bad nights are really bad for

539
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: a superstar and Lebron come the postseason, man just manipulate

540
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: every possession. Now they have a huge game Friday against

541
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: the Timberwolves, and right now the Lakers are the eight seed.

542
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: They're thirty eight and thirty eight. The Timberwolves are thirty

543
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: nine and thirty. You win that game against the Timberwolves,

544
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: you move up to the seven line. The Golden State

545
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: has thirty seven losses, You have the tiebreaker with them.

546
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: The Clippers have thirty six losses. You do not have

547
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: the tiebreaker with them, but you do get to play

548
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: them again. Could the Lakers move up out of the

549
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: play in possibly?

550
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 3: Do?

551
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: I think it's actually incumbent upon them to do that.

552
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: I do in this regard the team I would least

553
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: want to play in round one, There's no way for

554
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: them to play Phoenix in round one because Phoenix is

555
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: right now. The Phoenix can't move up. They're the four.

556
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: They could drop to the five, but Phoenix can't move

557
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: up to the three, and the Lakers are not going

558
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: to be able to move up to the five. So

559
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. The Lakers are gonna be

560
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 2: six seven, eight at best, and so they're not gonna

561
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: be able to play Phoenix. The team I would least

562
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: want to play is Memphis because the Lakers have no

563
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: one to guard Job, absolutely no one to guard Job.

564
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 2: The team oddly enough i'd like to play is Denver,

565
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: but because Jokic, I think you'd have real, real trouble

566
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: with Anthony Davis and Lebron will put him in a

567
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: million picking rolls. But the only way to play Denver

568
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: is if you're in the play in and lose your

569
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 2: first play in game and then win your second one.

570
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 2: That's how you get the eight seed, or I guess

571
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: the other way to play Denver would be to be

572
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,959
Speaker 2: in the play in as the nine or the ten

573
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: and then win both your playing games. I don't think

574
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: that's likely. I think the right now. If I were

575
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: ranking Western Conference contenders, I would go Memphis one, Lakers two,

576
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: Suns three. I worry about Chris Paul's health and I

577
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 2: worry about their continuity. That's how I would have it ranked,

578
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: and I think the Lakers could be really well positioned.

579
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: It's worth noting despite Lebron missing a month and missing

580
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: two weeks earlier in the year, despite Anthony Davis missing

581
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: a month, since the two and ten start, they are

582
00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: thirty thirty six and twenty eight. They have had one

583
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: of the three best defenses in the league since the

584
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 2: trade deadline, and arrested Lebron with that month off. If

585
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 2: he doesn't re injure that foot is a dangerous team next.

586
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: All right, so.

587
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: While you're gone, Jokic beat Giannis in the Bucks. By

588
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 4: the way, have you seen Janni's tweet about the trend

589
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 4: that he started.

590
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: About the cross Lakes.

591
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

592
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did.

593
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 3: I thought that was pretty.

594
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: By the way, that is something. Team chemistry matters. Guys

595
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 2: liking each other matters, and the Bucks lead the league

596
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: in there in good vibes and on a playoff run

597
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: that absolutely matters. But go ahead, So he also beat Philly.

598
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: He being go ahead.

599
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, Jokic beat Philly, but beat set out and

600
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 4: didn't even join the team on the bench.

601
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: Seems like him Bee couldn't rise to the challenge.

602
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 2: Not true, but go ahead.

603
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 4: Denver has big games against the Suns and Warriors over

604
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 4: the final stretch. Even, you now have to admit that

605
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 4: Jokic is in the driver's seat for this MVP thing.

606
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think he's in the driver's seat. Bon

607
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: Tim's just released his updated straw Pole. It is basically dead.

608
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: Even it was a weird thing. Jokic got the most

609
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: first place votes in bon tim Straw Pole, but Embiid

610
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: was the winner because you get points for first, second, third,

611
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: you know, and so Jokic had more thirds. Embiid was

612
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: basically first or second on enough ballots that it over,

613
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 2: and Jokic had a few thirds. It really I don't

614
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: think Yana should be discounted. I mean, last night, I

615
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: know Drewaliday had fifty one Janis also had a thirty

616
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: seven point triple double. I don't think Yanna should be

617
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 2: discounted in this. I don't. I actually give Embiid credit

618
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: for putting team success above the MVP. Yeah, because the

619
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: medical staff clearly thought he needed the game off because

620
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 2: he's been dealing with something he knew because he already

621
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 2: cooked up Jokic in their first meeting. If he did

622
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: it a second time, he could have basically I think

623
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: eliminated Jokics from the conversation. He didn't. His team loses.

624
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: But Embiid was very good last night and they beat

625
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: the mat.

626
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: Like you gotta go out there and kill on.

627
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: Well, I listen, I understand that any other games know,

628
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 2: I just I just no, of course I get it.

629
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 2: I think the but I understand that that is Embiid

630
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: showing the world like I am really focused on winning.

631
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: And here you thing. Embiid's never made Round three, not

632
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: the finals. He's never made a conference finals. He's got

633
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 2: to break through. The best players in league history have

634
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 2: never made a conference finals. It's like Dominique, Wilkins and

635
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 2: Bernard King, they who were Hall of famers, but Bernard's

636
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: career was derailed. Dude to Andrey. Dominique was in the

637
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: East and the eighties had to deal with Bird and

638
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: the and Michael and this Pistons like it was a

639
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: brutal spot. They weren't guys finishing in the top two

640
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: MVP three Street years and so right now I think

641
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: the ballot should be embeid by a hair over Giannis,

642
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: then a bit of a gap and then Jokic. But

643
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 2: we'll see how it will. It is gonna come down

644
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: to the final week. It's gonna come down to the

645
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,959
Speaker 2: final week, all right.

646
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 4: Next, let's see, all right, last week, Lucas said he

647
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 4: Luka Doncic said he no longer feels the same joy.

648
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 3: While playing playing my tiny violin.

649
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 4: The Mavericks have lost eight out of their last eleven games,

650
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 4: and now said at the eleven seed in the west,

651
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 4: is there any light at the end of this tunnel

652
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 4: for your Slovenian son.

653
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: It's not great, man, I said the little mini violin thing.

654
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 3: I feel bad. I'm sorry, that's.

655
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: Listening, man, it's not good. I can't put it all

656
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: on Kyrie.

657
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 3: That's really funny at the timing of.

658
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 2: That, Well, yeah, it's he obviously hasn't helped.

659
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 3: That is such funny timing.

660
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I can't put it all on Kyrie. And

661
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: put on Kyrie also, Kyrie. It seemed yesterday he tried

662
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 2: to have another fan kicked out of the game.

663
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

664
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on this? Oh so so let

665
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: me let me give you mine and go And then

666
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: I think that there has to be something very extreme,

667
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: said Lebron situation about his son when he had the.

668
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: Lady kicked out.

669
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: But like so, like so, here's the I don't know

670
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: what these fans are saying to Kyrie. I know a

671
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: few games ago he had someone kicked out. I know

672
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: Russ had someone kicked out yesterday, and I know Kyrie

673
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: got into it with a fan yesterday, and then the

674
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: rest say and they.

675
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: Didn't kick them out.

676
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: Here's here's the thing. Obviously, there are lines you cannot cross,

677
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: and I, without knowing what anybody said, I don't want

678
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 2: to like blindly defend any of these fans. I also am,

679
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 2: if I am being honest, if I saw Steph Curry,

680
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 2: John Morant or Joel Embiid demand a fan be ejected,

681
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 2: I would assume the fan deserved to be ejective. When

682
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: I when it's Russ or Kyrie, I'm not certain if

683
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: it was ejectable. I'm just not like, if somebody calls

684
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 2: Westbrook Westbrook, they don't get ejected from the game. Now

685
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 2: you can say that's a toxic part of sports, and

686
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: I fine, but that this part of I think maybe

687
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: it shouldn't be. Maybe this is me. I'm going to

688
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: look back on this and say, oh, that was a

689
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: dumb take of mine. Years from now, we're more evolved

690
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: and better. I don't know. Part of being a pro

691
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: athlete and part of what defines the greats is being

692
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 2: able to deal with the hostile road environment. Now there

693
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: are we know, there are lines, and you should never

694
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: invoke someone's family, You should never invoke someone's creed, race,

695
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: you know, any of those things, and I would argue

696
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: that you should get it. Should be close to a

697
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: zero tolerance policy on obscene profanity, not because the athletes

698
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 2: are offended, but because we still want to be able

699
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: to bring kids to the games. And it's just no

700
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 2: in a zero tolerance policy for any hate speech and profanity.

701
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: It's embarrassing in my opinion for the person doing it,

702
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 2: and there should be you know, but consistent taunting is allowed.

703
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 2: So I gotta know, Like if someone says like to Kyrie, Kyrie,

704
00:42:55,360 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: every team hates you, Kyrie, You're not getting your money, Kyrie.

705
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: Those things, I don't think you should be kicked out

706
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 2: for that. Do you agree? And I just.

707
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 4: Look at the people that it is coming. I see

708
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 4: where you're going with the with the Westbrook and the

709
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 4: Kyrie thing. Look these people, Russ Westbrook, Westbrook, I understand

710
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 4: a little bit more because like I feel like he

711
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 4: doesn't really bring it to himself because it's people make

712
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: fun of him because of the of his play with Kyrie.

713
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 4: It's like outside stuff that he's kind of like brought

714
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 4: on himself. So it's like, uh.

715
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: But either way, again, I think you are allowed to

716
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: make fun of guys for their play. I don't do it.

717
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of embarrassing for an adult to do.

718
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: But I don't think that is ejectable behavior. So again,

719
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: I don't.

720
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 4: Want the tickets because you're that into the game, right

721
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 4: you want to correct And I again, I don't know

722
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 4: what was said.

723
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: So this is more of a generic conversation the specific conversation.

724
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: Like I think if you say to whomever you effing suck,

725
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: that should be a warning. Stop with the profanity or

726
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 2: you're out of here. I think if you yell west

727
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: Brook you're the worst shooter in the league, you shouldn't

728
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: even get talked to. I think that's totally imbound. I

729
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: think if you say something about, you know, with someone's

730
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 2: wife or kid, you're out.

731
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

732
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: You say something racial, you're out. You make fun of

733
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: Kyrie's religion, you're out. Though all those things, to me,

734
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone disagrees with it. And again, maybe

735
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: that's what was happening here. But I have my doubts.

736
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: I have my doubts when I would not have doubts

737
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: if Steph Curry pointed and said that person's got to go,

738
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: I would just know, Okay, they you know what I mean?

739
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 3: Like their's did not seem like the whole league love

740
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 3: Steph Curry though.

741
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, he's look like most popular players league

742
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: for sure. It was really but hell, even if it

743
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: was James Harden, who everyone does not like. He's a

744
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: polarizing player, right.

745
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: It seems like James Harden doesn't give a damn.

746
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 2: I agree, which is why I'm saying if he said

747
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: someone's got to be kicked out, then and again, maybe

748
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: maybe it's gonna come out. These guys said something horrible

749
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: and it makes total sense. It just has hit my radar.

750
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 2: Seems to be a lot more have fans gotten way

751
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: worse or have certain players gotten more sensitive. I think

752
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: that's a fair question.

753
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 4: Ever since that mood swing post conference postgame conference Kyrie had,

754
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 4: that's right up his alley to kick a fan out, it.

755
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: Seems like it. And it's like it's like, you know,

756
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: they call me out my name, and I'm gonna look

757
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: him in their eye and see if they're really about it,

758
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: and it's like, definitely not about it. They definitely are

759
00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: taking advantage of the fact that you are performing and

760
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: they think it is part of the fan experience to

761
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 2: be a drunk idiot. Now again, if we want to.

762
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: Say, tomatoes at comedy shows, oh, are they you? I

763
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 3: mean I feel like they are.

764
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: No. Actually, like the old that's an old thing, buddy,

765
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: there's not I.

766
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 3: Mean nowadays, not tomatoes like shoes and stuff.

767
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: No, there's no showing stuff thrown at comedy shows. No,

768
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 2: not in modern society that you're watching like old Eddie

769
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: Murphy movies set in nineteen thirties. Like, no, there's not.

770
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: No one's throwing fruit at bad comics in modern society.

771
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 2: Do you just watched gangs in New York or something?

772
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 3: Or concerts?

773
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: I don't think people Okay, I don't set in modern society.

774
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: People are throwing things on stage.

775
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 4: I don't know where you're where you think you are

776
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 4: right now? They're throwing stuff one hundred. They are throwing

777
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 4: stuff in the crowd. Okay, not in the crowd, but

778
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 4: on stage.

779
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna need to see some mapp.

780
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 3: I mean, the baby got an Adidas shoot thrown at him.

781
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 3: Oh and that's a baby.

782
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: No, but that's out of bounds. That person's got to

783
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: be thrown out. I'm saying that's not allowed, and I

784
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: don't think it happens. Somebody says Warren't we talking about Luca? Listen,

785
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm I was trying to fill a buster tonight. I've

786
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: talked about fact the guy picked a win league MVP

787
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: and go to the finals might miss the plane entirely.

788
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: It's not great for my guy, Luca. We did a

789
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 2: forty minute a eight block. Let's take a quick break

790
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 2: and come back.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in episode one thirty eight, what's

800
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 2: right with Nick? Right, don't forget your listener questions for

801
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: me or for Deman's put them in the chat right

802
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 2: now on YouTube and we will get to them in

803
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: the next segment. Try to do a quicker segment here,

804
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: since we did a forty minute a block. When this

805
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: show was originally created, the whole show was the entire

806
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: show was supposed to be forty minutes. Yeah, it was

807
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: supposed to be sixteen minute A block, sixteen minute B block,

808
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: and an eight minute final segment.

809
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: We've wandered off.

810
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: We wandered off. Remember there used to be a buzzer

811
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 2: we used to do. We used to have little sound

812
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 2: drops of sisters saying, hurry up, daddy. That scrapped those Yeah,

813
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: we scrapped them. All right, what are we doing? Conspiracy corner.

814
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 3: All right, man, Yes, conspiracy corner with NBA texts. Yeah,

815
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 3: alright man.

816
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 2: So you know, look at the picture. Jeez, what I

817
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: I like that picture. That's good.

818
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 4: You know how much I hate refs making everything about themselves. Yeah,

819
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 4: we're at the point to where stars are closing in

820
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 4: or passing on the sixteenth tech threshold.

821
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: All right, let me disclain into the audience. In the

822
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: regular season, you get sixteen technical fouls, you get suspended

823
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 2: for a game. After that, every other tech gets you suspended.

824
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: So you get a one game suspended for your sixteenth, eighteenth, twentieth,

825
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 2: et cetera. That's how it works. So Dylan Brooks has

826
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 2: been suspended, Draymond has been suspended and picked up another one.

827
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: There's somebody else. I forget who, but keep going. Uh,

828
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 2: there's some I'll.

829
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 4: Think, but there's some suspicious stuff going on with who's

830
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 4: getting called for what? It's time for demons A's conspiracy corner.

831
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 4: Do you think the league is doing too much to

832
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 4: prevent big names from being teed up?

833
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 3: Oh?

834
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: Lucas the other one, Luca. Yeah, this guy got a

835
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: TECH and then had it rescinded because he was gonna

836
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: be suspended the next day, the league's rescinded is technical.

837
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 3: That's what we're doing.

838
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: So here's what I think. I think Draymond is the

839
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 2: perfect example of guys understanding they get away with basically

840
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: everything once they get their first technical foul because refs

841
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: don't want to throw them out. So in that game

842
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 2: against the Pelicans, Draymond got a technical on and a

843
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: flagrant on the same play. Talking about when he got

844
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: subject when no, oh, no, no no, he got a

845
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: technical and a flagrant on the same play tail end

846
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 2: of the first half. He then in the second half

847
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: picked up an immediate fourth foul and the rest of

848
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 2: the game just played like a lunatic and was incredibly

849
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: effective and was daring the refs to call him for

850
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 2: a fifth foul and daring the refs, And we saw

851
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 2: in the Dallas game he had five fouls, and he

852
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: just took license to essentially foul on every play, saying

853
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 2: you won't foul me out. In the Pelicans game, he

854
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: kicked Herb Jones in the head when he already had

855
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: a technical. He would have always gotten a technical for

856
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 2: that previously, but because the refs didn't want to throw

857
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: him out, so it's a weird spot where Draymond and

858
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: Luca does this would agree as well. They act so

859
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 2: incredulous and angry the whole game that they raise the

860
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: standard of what it takes for a TECH. And once

861
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 2: they get there first, they are daring the refs to

862
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: give him a second and kick him out. And if

863
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: the refs let you get away with it, they let

864
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 2: you get away with it. And so I do think

865
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 2: the NBA doesn't want these guys suspended, which is also

866
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 2: why I don't know that you have to have the

867
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: sixteen tech exactly.

868
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 4: I was just about to say, what's the point in

869
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 4: putting that rule there if it's never going to be used? Well,

870
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 4: like somebody has to be made an example.

871
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: Okay, So the reason that exists is because Rashid Wallace,

872
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: you vaguely remember him, He got forty one techs in

873
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: the season. Now, the refs hated him, and he did

874
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: some of it to.

875
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 3: Himself also probably a different time.

876
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: Twenty years ago, but he got So that's like, that

877
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: is like the unbreakable NBA record because you would have

878
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: been second for twenty games, like over the course of it,

879
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: it never happened again. But he got forty one texts

880
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: in a season. All right, next, what are we doing here?

881
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: Right a game? Right or wrong? No?

882
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 3: No, no, sorry we played right or wrong today?

883
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 4: Uh so we got Rogers versus Green Bay is getting

884
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 4: pretty ugly with him going back and forth blaming each other.

885
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 4: But it seems like the Packers are just saying the

886
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 4: truth and Rogers is misleading people right or wrong.

887
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 3: You can still trust Aaron Rodgers wrong.

888
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's lost all credibility.

889
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

890
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 2: He keeps saying all he wants is direct communication. And

891
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: then Gouden Kuntz is like, dude, want to answer our

892
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: calls or texts? I mean, I I just don't find

893
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: him to be a credible narrator of anything, of anything.

894
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 4: I think there's some long lasting effects of the ayahuasca

895
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 4: and he's got like a little bit of a misconception

896
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 4: on how society works maybe.

897
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: And also, by the way, the ayahuasca thing, I'm gonna

898
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: sound judgment all here, it seemed less impressive to me

899
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: and like evolved once I heard he did it with

900
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 2: Jake Paul. Jake Paul was with him, according to Jake Paul,

901
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: doing the ayahuasca like come on, man, like come on man,

902
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: and the it just he can't.

903
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 3: Be too much of an awakening around Jake.

904
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: That's my thoughts. Those are my thoughts. I just but

905
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 2: the whole all I care about is direct communication. All

906
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: I care about direct communication. I won't answer my calls

907
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 2: and texts. I'm not a fan of it, just flatly

908
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: not a fan of it.

909
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 4: Next, at the league meeting, Kyle Shanahan said that once healthy,

910
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 4: brock Perty is forty nine Ers quarterback.

911
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 3: I feel like I called this earlier. You did, I

912
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: feel like I did. I don't know you did.

913
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: But however, he hasn't given up on Trey Lance just yet.

914
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 4: The old adages if you have two quarterbacks, you have none,

915
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 4: right or wrong. The forty nine Ers have a quarterback problem.

916
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's right.

917
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 3: And I what do you think you could get for

918
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 3: Trey Lance?

919
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 2: Not much now, Not if you're publicly saying brock Party

920
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 2: has beat him out.

921
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 3: Or build up the stock for brock Party offer to

922
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 3: trade him. I don't, I mean, don't even need pieces.

923
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 2: I don't think the league wants brock Party. Yeah, the

924
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: league had a chance to get him, and everyone passed

925
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: on him at every single one of their draft picks.

926
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 2: And in my opinion. He didn't really light the world

927
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: on fire with San Francisco. I know he played well.

928
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 3: I ate, I just.

929
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: I obviously have not seen Trey Lance much. No one has.

930
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 2: But it is such an investment to not try to

931
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: see what he can do and what the offense can

932
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 2: look like with him if he's healthy, to me, would

933
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: be crazy, like even legitimately crazy. Yeah, so I think

934
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 2: brock party is. They're in the same I was with

935
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo. You're just getting replacement level quarterback play, and

936
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: I'd be worried about surgery on your elbow and you're

937
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: throwing on Yeah, he didn't like It's not like you

938
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: had a rocket arm before that. I'd want to see

939
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 2: what I have with Trey Lance next.

940
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 3: All right, it seems as as if Dame time maybe

941
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 3: coming to an end. In Portland.

942
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 4: Sham supported he expected. He expects potential offseason trade talks.

943
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 4: Right or wrong, Dame has played his last game as

944
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 4: a Trailblazer.

945
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 3: It's a little late, bud. What do you mean, what

946
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 3: do you mean it's in left Portland?

947
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, listen, do you know what Dame's numbers are

948
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: this year? Like, give me a guess on how many

949
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: points you think he's averaging per game? He's played fifty

950
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 2: eight games. How many points?

951
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 3: Twenty six, thirty two? I was gonna say thirty original,

952
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:54,240
Speaker 3: that's crazy.

953
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 2: He's averaging thirty two points, five rebounds, seven assists.

954
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 3: Oh bad, dam, it's not too late.

955
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 2: They well, no, but here's the It is too late

956
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: because he's averaging thirty two, five and seven. And here's

957
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: the entire list of teams. The Blazers have a better

958
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 2: record than the Rockets, the Spurs, the Pistons, the Hornets.

959
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 2: That's the list. That's it.

960
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 3: So are you saying like who needs them?

961
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying like it'd be one thing if it's like, ah,

962
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 2: we just can't break through to a championship, you can't

963
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: break through to the playing Oh you're the and it's

964
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 2: not Dame's fault. Listen, there is one team and one

965
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 2: team only that. Because here's the thing, the prome for Dame.

966
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: What team could trade for him and still be a

967
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 2: champion contender? You don't say what I mean, like, what

968
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 2: team would not have to give up so much that

969
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: they're they're still a champion and contender. I said there's

970
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: one team, So it's like oh, the Knicks not a contenter. Sorry,

971
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 2: you trade RJ. Barrett, Maybe they'll do it. I mean

972
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 2: they'd be good Dame, but Dame and Jalen brunts and

973
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,959
Speaker 2: your entire your backcourt both are six to one or under.

974
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: I don't think that's recipe. Uh. The look in the West,

975
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: like who could trade for him? Could the Pelicans? Maybe

976
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 2: the Pelicans, but then you're relying on on Zion being held.

977
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: You have trade brandon ingram all the Thunder. The Thunder

978
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 2: are an interesting one. They definitely could trade for him.

979
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if they'd be a contender immediately, but

980
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 2: they're you know, Dame and Shay. That's interesting. There's two

981
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference teams that should be calling repeatedly the Nets, no, no, no,

982
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: no no. The first one is Boston. Jalen Brown has

983
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 2: given a lot of it seems like he's gone and

984
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: that it's the best the Blazers could do. Get Jalen

985
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: Brown and a couple of draft picks that would be

986
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: perfect for Boston. Perfect for Boston, and you can win

987
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: the title. You have enough defense that even the downgrade

988
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: from Brown to Dame, you're fine and you can win

989
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: the title. The perfect fit is Philly. Philly trades Tobias Harris,

990
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: Maxie and every pick they have available to them. Damon

991
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 2: Embiid would be perfect. Dame stretches the defense out so far.

992
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: Harden if he stays, can run point. Even if Harden leaves,

993
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: I still think they would be deadly. Uh, that would

994
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: be a fun team. Man, oh on two ks. But

995
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 2: Boston is to me a really intriguing one. And so

996
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 2: I understand Dame has said, like, you know, I'm not

997
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 2: trying to ring Ja, I'm trying to build it all

998
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: these things. I get all that, and he can do

999
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: whatever he wants. But if your team can't even make

1000
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 2: the play in and you're having a career season and

1001
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 2: it's not like they have these it's Shadon Sharp's fine.

1002
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: They just they haven't been able to build a quality

1003
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 2: defense the whole time he's been there. They made one

1004
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 2: conference finals a few years ago, and that's that's it.

1005
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 4: All right, next, all right, if you needed one guy

1006
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 4: at his apex for one game or one series, who

1007
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 4: would it be. Yesterday on the Herd, you said you

1008
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 4: consider Shack. Right or wrong, Shack will be the number

1009
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 4: one pick.

1010
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: So this is a take I've had for a while,

1011
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: and this is a fun game to play, which is.

1012
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 3: Who is?

1013
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: And I think the answer is right? Who is helped

1014
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 2: and who is hurt the most? In all time rankings

1015
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 2: by this specific question. So if we are ranking guys

1016
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 2: like on my fifty players list, right, so I'll give

1017
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: you a guy who did not make the list, was

1018
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: not even really that strongly considered for the list, but

1019
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 2: would probably be a top twenty five pick for this question.

1020
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 2: I get him at his absolute apex. Tracy McGrady. Tracy

1021
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 2: McGrady is absolute apex. Was neck and neck with Kobe

1022
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: for the best perimeter player for a couple of years,

1023
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 2: but he didn't stay there, had dealt with injuries, didn't

1024
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 2: have playoff success. He plummets Who's hurt the most by this?

1025
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan, I had number five on my list,

1026
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: but there are fifteen guys that I would take above

1027
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: him if you're telling me, I get their absolute apex.

1028
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 2: So why would Shack be my answer that Shaq is

1029
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 2: my guy at his absolute apex over Lebron, over Jordan,

1030
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: over everyone else. Wild When I was talking to him

1031
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 2: about this, he mentioned, Steph, here's the thing. Any perimeter player.

1032
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 2: If your entire plan is to take them out of

1033
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: the game, you can to it. Agree, If you're willing

1034
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 2: to play four on three, you can just double them

1035
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 2: the length of the court and they're done. You know

1036
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like the now you probably lose because

1037
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 2: you're playing four on three against NBA players. But Wilds

1038
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 2: was like, so you're telling me I get on fire, Steph.

1039
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 2: Why would I take that? The answer is because I

1040
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 2: can just prevent him from getting the ball. Lebron has

1041
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: shown throughout his career if you double him, he is

1042
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: going to find the open man shack at his apex

1043
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: was doubled every play, And this is what I want

1044
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 2: to remind people of Shaquille O'Neals. Apex was those three

1045
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: straight finals with the Lakers. The first finals against the Pacers,

1046
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 2: he averaged thirty eight, seventeen and three with three blocks

1047
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: a game. His next finals against the Sixers, who had

1048
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: the defensive player of the year to Kimbe Mutombo playing center,

1049
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: he averaged thirty three, sixteen.

1050
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 3: And five, slowed him down a bit with.

1051
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 2: Four blocks per game. The next finals against the Nets,

1052
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 2: he averaged thirty six, thirteen and four with three blocks

1053
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 2: per game. So Shaquille O'Neal over the course of three finals.

1054
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 3: This is what he did.

1055
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 2: He gave you forty four minutes per night. He averaged

1056
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 2: thirty six points per game. He averaged fifteen rebounds per game,

1057
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 2: four assists and three blocks over three consecutive finals. He's

1058
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 2: my number one pick. My picks would be Shack one,

1059
01:02:56,080 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 2: bron to Jordan three for peak of their paw our

1060
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 2: NBA history for one game or one series. Now that

1061
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: like that does not mean that they are the that

1062
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 2: that is the all time rankings. Who else trying to

1063
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 2: think like modern so like of current players, guys who

1064
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 2: are like really helped by this is a guy like

1065
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell. An a triple plus Donovan Mitchell game, he

1066
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 2: ranks way higher than his actual ranking. A guy who's

1067
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 2: hurt by this is Jokis, you know what I mean,

1068
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: Like because his highs aren't as high, but he's so consistent.

1069
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: So I think Tatum is hurt a bit by this.

1070
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 2: Tate's probably top five player, but I don't think there's five.

1071
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 2: I think there's more than five guys.

1072
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 3: Well, I take you out him and that's him versus

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Speaker 3: the Bucks last year.

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Speaker 2: Huh yeah, But I I think so maybe he stays

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Speaker 2: about where he is. Maybe that's about right. Maybe he

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01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: stays about where he is. I'm trying to think of

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Speaker 2: who is a guy who is hurt by this as

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Speaker 2: far as his you know what? In this right now,

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Speaker 2: we'll see if it changed in the playoffs. Lebron's probably

1080
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 2: hurt by this a bit because Lebron doesn't have those

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01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: like monster games so much anymore. But it's a fun

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01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 2: conversation to me, and it's a different conversation than the

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Speaker 2: greatest players ever.

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Speaker 4: All right, next, all right, Ronnie James took himself to

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01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 4: a whole new level in the McDonald's All American Game.

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01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 4: Yet he's still not committed to any school for next year.

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Speaker 4: Right or wrong, Bronni will be a Trojan.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, and I don't have an answer on this.

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01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: I know he crushed. I mean, I gotta give this

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01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 2: kid credit, man, I mean, he's like turned himself into

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Speaker 2: a legit top ten prospect. It's unbelievable. He's even out

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01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 2: his shot. He's got these great instincts. I saw somebody

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01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 2: say he has his dad's athleticism, and somebody correctly said

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01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: on Twitter, no one currently alive has Lebron's athleticism, including

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Speaker 2: Lebron anymore, which is accurate. But uh, I mean, I

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01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 2: don't know where he's gonna go. I do think he'll

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Speaker 2: add some breadcrumbs to where Lebron's gonna go.

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Speaker 3: I do think that.

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Speaker 2: All right, we got one more. As you guys all know,

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Speaker 2: Demante was off last week looking for a place in

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles. Right or wrong, Demanse has already gone Hollywood,

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Speaker 2: and this is a YouTube exclusive where we're gonna show

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Speaker 2: you guys something that I don't know if you guys

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Speaker 2: are ready for. Has Demanse already gone Hollywood? And we

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01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: had to crop that picture because we weren't sure if

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Speaker 2: you were pulling the Lebron and just naked under a towel,

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01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 2: But you're in a parking lot showing off your body

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Speaker 2: on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: So there it is.

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Speaker 2: There's Lebron and Demonte in the steamer room. I do

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01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 2: gotta say, you're in great shape, buddy. I'm happy for you.

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Speaker 2: You look great. I was surprised to see that on

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01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 2: IG I'm not gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really.

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01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 4: I don't really post on there because you know, I

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01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 4: do the podcast, so I haven't really found my middle

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01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 4: ground as far as whenever I post something, I feel

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01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 4: like people look.

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01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 2: At it like like you're a public figure.

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Speaker 3: What Yeah, yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, is that what you were gonna say?

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01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 4: So I was just gonna say, like, I feel like,

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Speaker 4: when you see me on this podcast, you don't really

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Speaker 4: expect me to post something like that.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yes, it's you know, it's the private life,

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Speaker 2: public life exactly.

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Speaker 3: But that was me before, like I mean, a long

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Speaker 3: time ago. I guess. I kind of like, but it's

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Speaker 3: a yeah, what do you mean that was? That was?

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Speaker 2: That was taken this week?

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01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm saying that that's how you posted exactly

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01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 3: to do it exactly.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I was gonna say, are you like you're

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01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 2: posting old pig look how good I used to look? Okay, No,

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01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 2: that's fair. All right, I hear. We have a surprise

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01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 2: package to open and we answer your listener questions. That's next,

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Speaker 2: what's right?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 2: Welcome back in episode one thirty eight, one of our

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01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 2: longest episodes ever. It's great to have Demanse back. I

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01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 2: think this might be your best performance. You've done a

1142
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: great job. Before we get to the listener, questions. You

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01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 2: guys have a surprise for me.

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Speaker 3: All right.

1145
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 4: So it's obviously been a while since football season ended

1146
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 4: with all the success from the Chiefs and the Jaguars

1147
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 4: gave you a really big hit. Okay, so we've got

1148
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 4: the perfect thing for.

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Speaker 2: That, my hat. My finally, Oh custom, I didn't even know.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Okay, I see what I was supposed to. Oh,

1151
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 2: oh that's how they work. Oh, we've got the big hats,

1152
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 2: all right. Well, Demanse gets these put together and then

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01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 2: I'll put them on. I'm gonna read some listener questions

1154
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 2: because this is gonna take a minute. Try not to

1155
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: break them. Don't break them. Uh. Negative four and two

1156
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 2: said which teams would be ideal in signing Zeke from

1157
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 2: both perspectives. That's an interesting one. I his market is

1158
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 2: not gonna be that strong. I you know what, I

1159
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 2: shouldn't have read that question because I hadn't really thought

1160
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 2: about it that much Detroit. Maybe because Jamal Williams is gone,

1161
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 2: but I haven't really you know what. I'm just gonna

1162
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 2: be totally honest. I haven't been studying teams running back

1163
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 2: depth charts post free agency. So I'm gonna answer to

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Speaker 2: that sorry, negative four and two. Ronnie Lucente said, Nick,

1165
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 2: what do you think about Bronni and what do you

1166
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,560
Speaker 2: think is the best route for him and Lebron to

1167
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 2: play together both league wise and fatherwise. Well, here is

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01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 2: the other interesting thing about Bronni. Once upon a time,

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01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 2: I felt Lebron was saying, you know, I'm gonna go

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01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 2: to wherever Bronni gets drapped by as a way to

1171
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 2: ensure Bronni gets drafted. But if Bronni keeps this upward trajectory,

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01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 2: he might be a lottery pick, in which case a

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01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 2: bad team would be drafting him, in which case I

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01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: don't know if Lebron wants to do that. So that's

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01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 2: it's kind of a fascinating thing. I don't know. I

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01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 2: know he wants to play with him, I don't know

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01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 2: what the exact plan is, to be totally honest. Next,

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Speaker 2: h Nick, though you don't believe in the nuggets, oh

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01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 2: you have them with a small slice championship Pie, what

1180
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 2: does denver path to a championship looks like? Denver's path

1181
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 2: to a championship looks like this. They're obviously the one seed.

1182
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 2: They get Minnesota in round one and beat them. They

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01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 2: then in round two, get the Suns or the Clippers,

1184
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 2: both of which are dealing with injuries, and they beat them.

1185
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 2: And in round three they get Sacramento and Sabonis can't

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01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 2: deal with Jokic. That's their path. Now I'm putting on

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01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 2: the What's right hat. This is awesome. Yeah, this is great,

1188
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 2: And I'm wearing the Prince that was promised hat at work.

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01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 2: These big hats are sweet.

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Speaker 3: Man. Oh yeah, see, I gave you that one because

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01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 3: it didn't match my fit.

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01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,600
Speaker 2: So oh that's fine. You can wear the prince that

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01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 2: was promised You're a Trevor Lawrence guy nowadays.

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01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

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01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 4: Average player asked do you think the Nuggets should trade

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01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 4: Michael Porter Junior and Murray for Dame?

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01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 2: Well, that trade wouldn't work, and I don't think the

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01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 2: I think the Blazers are gonna want draft picks. I

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01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 2: think the Blazers can do better than Michael Porter Junior.

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01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 2: H Henry Miller said, never participate in book book club

1201
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 2: before a Little History of the World, but I really

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01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 2: enjoyed reading it week to week with you guys. Do

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01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 2: you have any other book recommendations?

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01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 3: I will.

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01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 2: We'll pick that up again, probably post NBA. What you

1206
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 2: have a book reader.

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01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 3: I have a book for you, guys.

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01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 2: Okay, what's that?

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01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 3: Titles a little long?

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01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 2: Okay, let me while you're looking it up, I'll read this.

1211
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 2: Do you play the fut Champions on FIFA twenty three? Uh?

1212
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 2: I did not. I have not played it, so I didn't.

1213
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 2: I can't tell you what the max wins I got

1214
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 2: in twenty wins? What's the book? Is this a book

1215
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 2: you've read? Demase?

1216
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 3: No? Then why the animal Kingdom is full of con artists?

1217
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 3: I don't think that's what the book is called. Let

1218
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 3: me see mine.

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01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 4: Actually, it's in the it's in the New Yorker. It's

1220
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 4: it's I talked about it with Nana a lot in Naruba.

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01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 4: It's pretty funny, oh okay, pretty funny, very interesting, like

1222
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 4: some some birds have like warning calls, Like it's basically

1223
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 4: about how the animals they lie and then they cheat

1224
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 4: you Like, is this a book or is this?

1225
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 3: I think it's like you go down to.

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01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 4: A book, like there's a book on there and maybe

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01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 4: it's just a banana said that it was.

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01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 3: A book that she she went, oh okay.

1229
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 2: Abbreviated version of Bates story in his new book The

1230
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 2: Liars of Nature and the Nature of Liars.

1231
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 3: Yes, that's that's the book. You definitely should get it.

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01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 4: There's a little anecdote about, uh, this bird that has

1233
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 4: like a warning call and where other birds are eating,

1234
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 4: it sends out the warning call, so they think that

1235
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 4: there's danger amongst them, and then he goes and gets

1236
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 4: the food. Really yeah, okay, awesome, I will. It's like

1237
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 4: a bunch of animals that have like created these things.

1238
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 4: I love it to see if other animals that works

1239
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 4: in their favorite.

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01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 2: I'm I'm texting myself the link to it. Okay, you're

1241
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: getting a phone call from Kansas.

1242
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: We have to go.

1243
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 2: This was a great show. Uh yeah, there it is

1244
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 2: Liars of Nature in the Nature of Liars. See you

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01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 2: guys on Tuesday. What's right,