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Speaker 1: and o Jo. We had a very eventful day. A
Speaker 1: couple of the games were really close interesting the others.
Speaker 1: First let's start with the beatdown that we just witnessed.
Speaker 1: The Pacers blew out the Bucks one twenty nine to
Speaker 1: one oh three. Dame have a potential Achilles tear. I
Speaker 1: don't want to play. It didn't look good because when
Speaker 1: he went down, GP, he grabbed it back of that.
Speaker 1: He grabbed the back of our ankle. And we know
Speaker 1: what that seems to indicate, hopefully is not that. Let's
Speaker 1: keep our fingers crossed, let's pray for that. But they
Speaker 1: blow them out one nine, one o three. The Pacers
Speaker 1: eight guys in double figures, seey'all come twelve points, Nie
Speaker 1: Smith fourteen, Turner twenty three, nim Hard twenty, Halliburton seventeen
Speaker 1: with fifteen assists, uh Obie Topping had thirteen, Walker Well
Speaker 1: and TJ.
Speaker 2: McConnell had fifteen.
Speaker 1: And the Bucks only had three guys in double figures.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't nearly enough. You could see a lot
Speaker 1: of the momentum leave the building. What's Dame Dollar went
Speaker 1: down without achilles injury?
Speaker 2: GP. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: If you played, I don't know if you had any
Speaker 1: severe injury that was career threatening.
Speaker 2: What does this mean for Dame?
Speaker 1: If this is what a lot of people are surmising
Speaker 1: or suspecting that it might be.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, shining.
Speaker 1: It's like this Dames here from Oakland, California, where I'm Trump,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I grew up with
Speaker 1: his pops, and we got the same agent, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and I got the message for him there.
Speaker 2: It doesn't look really really good, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Dan just didn't bang from what he was injury that
Speaker 2: he was from. He only had one game back. It
Speaker 2: doesn't look really really good. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's my guy. That's like you to me.
Speaker 1: I don't like I just don't like the injury. I
Speaker 1: think this is not gonna be good for Milwaukee. Milwaukee
Speaker 1: is not that basketball team that everybody needs to see.
Speaker 1: Then they can't compete with this young team in Indiana.
Speaker 2: It's not it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not looking good and I don't think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be looking good. I think this is gonna be a terrible,
Speaker 1: terrible news for the Milwaukee Bucks. I'll be let you
Speaker 1: go in just to say it. Ohoe was this Yannis?
Speaker 1: If if they get swept in the first round again,
Speaker 1: is this Yanni's last game in Milwaukee. Well, they're not
Speaker 1: gonna get swept. You know what shy I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean they get I mean. What I'm gonna think is
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen shanity is they're gonna make a retool
Speaker 1: of everything. You know what I'm saying. They gotta think
Speaker 1: about everything. They gotta think about how they're gonna get better.
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen. This team is not the same team.
Speaker 1: They try to make trades with Middleton and all that,
Speaker 1: it didn't work. I think they're gonna retool this whole team.
Speaker 1: I don't even think Dame's gonna be there next year.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. You know, it's something
Speaker 1: that they got to retool about. This team is not
Speaker 1: the same if they get if they get before one
Speaker 1: this in this series, I think they're gonna retool everything shattering.
Speaker 3: Oh go ahead, hey, listen, we talk about retooling gp Uh.
Speaker 3: This is what's gonna happen. Listen, My ears and eyes
Speaker 3: aren't too are his closest to the basketball world as
Speaker 3: U GP But I can tell you this. Jonnie was
Speaker 3: already frustrated. Giannis was already frustrated being in Milwaukee, uh
Speaker 3: and not winning. Obviously he won a chip already, but
Speaker 3: the addition of Dame dollar was supposed to be that
Speaker 3: of one that got them over the hump.
Speaker 2: Now if they have, if they if they get.
Speaker 3: Swept or gentleman sweep as we so call it, uh,
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be frustrated and probably asked has
Speaker 3: to be out uh with with Dame, with Dame obviously
Speaker 3: being hurt. Hoping I'm hoping for the best place him
Speaker 3: that is not as not as bad as that is
Speaker 3: what it looked like.
Speaker 2: I don't think Dame will be there as well.
Speaker 3: But knowing Joannie, especially with Dame coming off in a
Speaker 3: Kiddy's injury, if that's what it is, I think he's
Speaker 3: gonna ask out and just let me just throw that.
Speaker 3: I'm just throw this out in the park. The best
Speaker 3: place for Yannis to go is to go from the
Speaker 3: Bucks and come on down here to Miami because we
Speaker 3: need a superstar.
Speaker 2: I just I just had to throw that out.
Speaker 3: You yes, so, so the football so the so, the
Speaker 3: so the basketball guys can hear that, and I can
Speaker 3: manifest that for us down here the crew.
Speaker 2: Let me let me tell you about that. You I
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 1: But you know these these are gonna be big trades.
Speaker 1: You know, get you gotta give a lot of people away.
Speaker 2: Oh you go.
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna be asking for a lot from Miami.
Speaker 1: You know, probably for a draft picks. Man, them players
Speaker 1: are going to beat their top like hero and bam.
Speaker 1: You know what you're trying to say right.
Speaker 2: Now, Chad is I get it. I get it that
Speaker 2: that's what you want to say.
Speaker 1: But they're gonna have to put one of them dudes
Speaker 1: in and then when you get away get rid of
Speaker 1: a lot of them players, You're gonna come with a
Speaker 1: lot of other players that you gotta bring along, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So who you gonna you're gonna keep?
Speaker 1: They're gonna try to get rid of bad If that's
Speaker 1: that's the case, that hero is gonna be there, and
Speaker 1: then it's just only gonna be a hero.
Speaker 2: And you're honest. So we we gotta understand that.
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be a lot because they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to make They're gonna give a lot away to get
Speaker 1: that kid.
Speaker 2: See, I understand exactly.
Speaker 3: We just talk about to give me, give give me
Speaker 3: in a y chat, y'all stay with me real quick
Speaker 3: now now, I said, I sat down yesterday.
Speaker 2: I sat down yesterday with.
Speaker 3: Pat Riley and Micaerrison, and we we came down with
Speaker 3: a game plan based on what we want to do
Speaker 3: and and try to facilitate a way to get the
Speaker 3: heat back to what we used to be at one
Speaker 3: time when we had our big three, when we had Bosh,
Speaker 3: we had d Wade and we had right there. First off,
Speaker 3: you learn two o six, I got, y'all championship baby,
Speaker 3: it was up. Sorry, that's fine, Yes, yes, sah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're right.
Speaker 2: You're right. One thing about it.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna forget history. I remember history. I remember
Speaker 3: I remember history. So what I'm thinking about I was
Speaker 3: talking with with Pat yesterday.
Speaker 2: We sat down.
Speaker 3: You know, we have have a couple of tea, a
Speaker 3: picky finger out and I asked him, I said, listen,
Speaker 3: we need to do what we need to do. The
Speaker 3: Grizzlies they got swept. I think we need to make
Speaker 3: a move for John. We need to make a move
Speaker 3: for John. And I said, listen, I.
Speaker 2: Have to give up pieces, oh Joe, you think people
Speaker 2: just gonna just take jaw?
Speaker 3: Listen Before listen, before you start, before you before you
Speaker 3: started painting, you got a canvas, right, So the conversation
Speaker 3: pat right in the hat. It was the canvas, not
Speaker 3: allow us to work, not allow us to paint. We
Speaker 3: didn't even get to the painting part. Yet we're gonna
Speaker 3: figure out a way to get it done. Now we now,
Speaker 3: not only we're gonna get Yannis, we're gonna find a
Speaker 3: way that John Morant down here as well. And I
Speaker 3: think we get listened them two. Then we build around
Speaker 3: Jah and Yanni's down here Miami.
Speaker 1: And how you gonna get both of them without giving
Speaker 1: up everything you got?
Speaker 2: Let's and we don't.
Speaker 3: We don't have a problem giving up everything we have
Speaker 3: because we can build with those two as a future.
Speaker 2: No, you can't, because here is the thing.
Speaker 1: See you thinking everybody gonna make the same mistake that
Speaker 1: Nico Harrison made, giving up Luca basically for evil swap. Now,
Speaker 1: y'all gotta understand Nico, my guy, he doesn't he's a president.
Speaker 2: He doesn't own that kem for you to give away.
Speaker 1: Look, did it when you give up Luca? You gotta
Speaker 1: have permission to give up Luca. I don't care what
Speaker 1: y'all put that on Meko. Everybody trying to put that
Speaker 1: on Miko, don't do that. He gotta be have permission
Speaker 1: to get rid of that guy, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And that that owner she had to say, yeah, let's.
Speaker 2: Do it, don't don't give it on him.
Speaker 1: Sure, he had to get permission to get rid of him,
Speaker 1: and it had to be a lot of more reasons
Speaker 1: to give away Luca.
Speaker 2: It wasn't just because we're trying to make a deal.
Speaker 1: It's because something else in that situation had to say,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to get rid of this guy. I don't
Speaker 1: want to give this guy three hundred and fifty million
Speaker 1: dollars because he's not being that guy in Dallas who
Speaker 1: he was. And that's what you guys gotta understand. He
Speaker 1: was doing a lot more things in Dallas for them
Speaker 1: to get rid of him, you know what I'm And
Speaker 1: that's oh yeah, for sure. It's kind of like it's
Speaker 1: kind of like Adam Silver's commissioner, Roger Goodella's commissioner, and
Speaker 1: people get mad at them, but they work at the
Speaker 1: behast of the owners. The owners run the league. Adam
Speaker 1: Silver is just the mouthpiece. Roger Goodell is the mouthpiece,
Speaker 1: so you have to take all the bullying.
Speaker 2: Oh Jr.
Speaker 1: Remember Thursday Night you got man they buing the commissioner
Speaker 1: in yep. Yeah, they can't bull the holders because the
Speaker 1: holders don't get intoduce, so they they buot a commissioner.
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: But in a situation like that, think about what Minnesota
Speaker 1: gave up to get Rudy Gobert, Think about what Phoenix
Speaker 1: gave up to get Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2: They're not a whole lot of teams other than the
Speaker 2: only team.
Speaker 1: That I can thinke up off the top of my
Speaker 1: head to have the kind of draft capital and some
Speaker 1: of the players that a team might be adduranceed in
Speaker 1: is okay. See they got thirteen first round pick and
Speaker 1: pick swaps and Jayalen Williams. I don't think they want
Speaker 1: to part with Jayleen Weaves. I really don't. They're not
Speaker 1: getting rid of shape, So don't even call. They're gonna
Speaker 1: hang up on you, and then everything that you say
Speaker 1: after that is gonna be moved. So it is just
Speaker 1: hard when you trading superstars. If you're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: job and and and Yanni is you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: get like five or six teams involved.
Speaker 2: GPU got a team, what shatty? You're gonna have to
Speaker 2: get four teams at least to get.
Speaker 1: Ready two of the stars or some of their stars,
Speaker 1: and a lot of draft picks. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about like see, they not giving a
Speaker 1: ready nobody. They just swept. They just swept the team.
Speaker 1: So I ain't even tripping off that they young and
Speaker 1: they gonna be cool and they little young point guard
Speaker 1: about to get the MVP a league.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's gonna be hard with Joker, but
Speaker 2: he gonna gonna think he's gonna win the m v P.
Speaker 2: So it's like this, they're not gonna do anything for
Speaker 2: these teams to be where they gonna be.
Speaker 1: They gonna have to give up something, and they gonna
Speaker 1: get up a lot. It's gonna be a lot.
Speaker 2: To give up. And we aren't. We're not gonna sit
Speaker 2: here and shintol code. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to give up a lot of their players,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to restart.
Speaker 2: Chad.
Speaker 1: If I am't give up anybody, they're gonna give away
Speaker 1: their whole team. And I know Pat Browley too, you
Speaker 1: know latefully him, he'll fool around and do that, but
Speaker 1: he's not gonna give away hero right now and all
Speaker 1: them dudes, because I just I just can't see it.
Speaker 1: You can't give away the mules for a young young
Speaker 1: peace and just say you gotta give me away these
Speaker 1: guys and say I'm gonna be rebeald with them, and
Speaker 1: they are.
Speaker 2: They can't do that.
Speaker 3: See, this is the thing that this is the things
Speaker 3: EP Like I understand you played for Pat. You have
Speaker 3: a great relationship with Pat right and it with with
Speaker 3: great understanding, and this is some of the things that
Speaker 3: out of character for him to do. But right now
Speaker 3: Pat and Mickey they're in a different situation and we
Speaker 3: want to get back to our winning ways. Can we
Speaker 3: get back to our winning ways with this with the
Speaker 3: squad that we collectively have right now?
Speaker 2: Now? We we we we got some players, We got
Speaker 2: a good squad. You know.
Speaker 3: Uh, they put on their they put on their hard hats,
Speaker 3: they make it. You know, they they play just well
Speaker 3: enough to make it to the playoffs. But we don't
Speaker 3: want to be we don't want to do just well enough.
Speaker 3: Like we want to get back to the upper echelon
Speaker 3: of coming out of the East and actually challenge and
Speaker 3: contending for NBA championship, And how do we do that?
Speaker 3: We have to do something that's out of character, similar
Speaker 3: to Dallas did tell Pat to sit back because here
Speaker 3: he does.
Speaker 2: GP. You know this, your son is in the currently
Speaker 2: in the league. It's a different league now.
Speaker 1: That iron fifth and that ruling like I'm dictator that
Speaker 1: ain't flying with these young cats no more. All that
Speaker 1: Pat Rowley, you taking cookies and it's gonna be my
Speaker 1: way or the highway. Guy says, okay, I take that highway.
Speaker 1: You see Lebron James left because he took cookies. He
Speaker 1: had a problem with Jimmy Butler. Jimmy Butler left. So
Speaker 1: you so what do you think Johnny feels Jannie is
Speaker 1: an apex predator. You think you're gonna be table to talk,
Speaker 1: but Johnny's like you do Tyler him.
Speaker 2: Listen, you heard what you just said. Uh, you heard
Speaker 2: what you just said. Listen. People like that have ability
Speaker 2: to change and understand that chat. Huh he hasn't. No,
Speaker 2: he's not this you listen.
Speaker 1: Me and Shannon Is said almost in the same era, chat,
Speaker 1: Hey man, you know you you're a beef like me, baby, Yes,
Speaker 1: you mean you York State.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Well, right now this Erar
Speaker 2: is a lot different. Man.
Speaker 1: They controlling things in this little eraror right, and we
Speaker 1: we we gotta accept it there the controlling things. So
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen is is that Pat gonna try to
Speaker 1: get right, but he got to get that player that's
Speaker 1: gonna be really the do whatever. And to get Yannis
Speaker 1: and to get a Marne you're gonna you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to pay a lot. So think about what happened Memphis
Speaker 1: hot fire that coach in the middle of the season
Speaker 1: and five and five in the sea and because of
Speaker 1: whatever happened, whoever did it, whatever happened and it didn't work,
Speaker 1: didn't work.
Speaker 2: Now we're talking about the same thing.
Speaker 1: Johannisyn't go and cry all they want to do. But
Speaker 1: we ain't got a lot of players out there that's
Speaker 1: gonna get out like that. Now, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Because a lot of these dudes want to play with
Speaker 1: each other.
Speaker 2: So who want to play with Jannis? Who want to
Speaker 2: do that? Who want to take a two year, three
Speaker 2: year deal and say I'm going to Milwaukee. Ain't too
Speaker 2: many people coming to Milwaukee. They want to come?
Speaker 1: Is now where can I go? You can come to
Speaker 1: line me. But how you gonna give up? You're gonna
Speaker 1: give up all your team and then you're gonna have
Speaker 1: two players, and then you gotta fill up thirteen more positions.
Speaker 1: I give you a prime example, o Jo GP you
Speaker 1: and you could you could attested this. It's the same
Speaker 1: thing to happen when Carmelo Anthony left Denver and went
Speaker 1: to New York. They had a nice team if they
Speaker 1: could have kept that team and got Carmelo, but when
Speaker 1: they got Carmelo, the Nuggets gutted them. And now look
Speaker 1: what you got. You got a superstar in New York.
Speaker 1: And Carmelo was a superstar, but he had nothing. And
Speaker 1: so now and then you then you went and got
Speaker 1: a to my boy Ai he was he was agent.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So what you gotta do
Speaker 2: is what is you gonna put with these dudes?
Speaker 1: Man? Nowadays, in this emp, you don't want to gut
Speaker 1: your whole team, you know what I'm saying you.
Speaker 2: We could take Oklahoma City for example.
Speaker 1: They didn't cut they seen team, They start drafted drafted, drafted,
Speaker 1: and now look out, look at him, gotty yard.
Speaker 2: Now not gonna gut, not gonna gut everybody to do that.
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's gonna happen because this team
Speaker 1: will walk if they look. I don't know what they
Speaker 1: don't do, but they not gonna be sitting around here
Speaker 1: and say we're gonna give six seven players and four
Speaker 1: five draft picks for y'all.
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 1: No, he's not basketball player for y'all to get rid
Speaker 1: of y'all team and say, Okay, we're gonna build around
Speaker 1: him and do this, that and that, but we ain't
Speaker 1: got nothing around me. It ain't gonna work. It ain't
Speaker 1: gonna work like that. No, cause you look get this game.
Speaker 1: I mean you look at the bucks outside of Yannis
Speaker 1: and day, they really not that good. Brook Lipans played
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes tonight. He had six points. He had one rebound,
Speaker 1: one assist, one steal, one block, four personal files. Here's
Speaker 1: a guy that seven foot tall and I don't think
Speaker 1: he's ever averaged more than eight rebounds in the season.
Speaker 1: Let that seek it. He's seven foot tall. He doesn't
Speaker 1: want to play with his back and once upon a time,
Speaker 1: GP he played with his back to the basket. Now
Speaker 1: he's a seven foot perimeter player. That's no good because
Speaker 1: Johnny's needs to knee space, so he has to space.
Speaker 1: He has to stand out there. It serves you no purpose.
Speaker 1: Dame goes down. Now you look at this lineup, Kyle Kuzma.
Speaker 1: Now everybody could play well, Kyle Koman didn't have to
Speaker 1: get them. He played sixteen minutes tonight. He was one
Speaker 1: for six, oh for one from the three, one for
Speaker 1: two from the free throw line. He had zero rebounds again,
Speaker 1: one assist, no steals, no blocks, zero turnovers, three files. Hey, Doc,
Speaker 1: that's on you because you say, how can you get
Speaker 1: in the rhythm if you don't shoot the ball. You're
Speaker 1: the head coach. Is your job to Diagraham plays, to
Speaker 1: put him in position. That's again. Now remember o Joe
Speaker 1: the other stand line the other night, it was zero's across.
Speaker 2: The board the boy.
Speaker 1: Now at least he made one shot, at least he
Speaker 1: made one free throw, and then he had one. No,
Speaker 1: he had no rebounds, one assists, no steals, no Im Shannon,
Speaker 1: these are basketball players you're talking about. You trying to
Speaker 1: put something on them. Man, listening, man, and in all
Speaker 1: my age, in my era, Man, these dudes gotta get out. Man.
Speaker 2: These ain't players like that.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: We only talk about athletes. We talked about players in
Speaker 2: my era.
Speaker 1: Man. In the nineties, Man, we had players. Man, that's
Speaker 1: gonna go get here. Not so think about that. Man.
Speaker 1: You trying to put something into some players and we
Speaker 1: ain't in there that situation to have that type of role.
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying. That ain't the type of role. Yeah, Man,
Speaker 2: they ain't in that type of role. Man, you ask
Speaker 2: them to be something.
Speaker 1: Wait, when have you ever seen these players that you
Speaker 1: just lay be a primary or a player that you
Speaker 1: need to put in that role? You ain't never right.
Speaker 1: That's why that's why the Lakers were so willing to
Speaker 1: get rid of him. That's why that's why the Wizards
Speaker 1: was so willing to get rid of him, because that's not.
Speaker 2: That's not what he is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he can get hot and give you twenty five, give.
Speaker 1: You thirty, but routine. If you go back and study
Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzma, this is what he is. He's wildly inconsistent,
Speaker 1: and it's hard to be a championship team unless you
Speaker 1: got when they wanted the bubble, that ad player, that
Speaker 1: best ad. You had Lebron len four, then he had
Speaker 1: he had Howard and he told you all that when
Speaker 1: he was thinking, he said, Man, my best position at
Speaker 1: the four when I can get out, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And that's how that game goes. It's just life with
Speaker 2: the Lakers right now. They do not have a chemistry. Man,
Speaker 2: with that team.
Speaker 1: You watch one person on one side go one on one,
Speaker 1: watch the other player go one on one. You can't
Speaker 1: win at that type of basketball right now in the NBA.
Speaker 1: You can't watch that. That's why they're not winning. That's
Speaker 1: why that little young that team in Minnesota, who got
Speaker 1: that little dog.
Speaker 2: Down there on efforts. They know who the dog heat
Speaker 2: the batman. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: On the Superman and the mother dudes come within. I
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying, and he knocking down shots.
Speaker 2: But that's what they do.
Speaker 1: Man. They're young and they're getting added. That's why he
Speaker 1: up three one right now. And we gotta understand that
Speaker 1: basketball right down, Chad. You know it. It ain't like
Speaker 1: it our day man, when we had four five people
Speaker 1: on that on our squad that can get Am. We
Speaker 1: had a one or two or three and a five
Speaker 1: that nowadays you got one or two guys on the
Speaker 1: team that's get down.
Speaker 2: That's it. Ain't nobody else gonna get am, y'all. And
Speaker 2: if you ain't got the right Keemi Street, you not
Speaker 2: gonna win basketball games, right Dang.
Speaker 1: Looking that this game, I mean, I mean I watched
Speaker 1: this game from starting to finish. I never felt the
Speaker 1: Bucks were gonna win this game because the other night
Speaker 1: when when Milwaukee won, you got thirty seven point of
Speaker 1: career high from gred Trent Junior.
Speaker 2: What was the likelihood he was gonna be able to
Speaker 2: replicate that?
Speaker 1: Because at this juncture, yeah he's a streaky shooter, but
Speaker 1: what was the likely likelihood of Liken him striking twice?
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was gonna happen. Now that I
Speaker 1: think y'allis can go get thirty seven again? Sure, absolutely,
Speaker 1: But and I said this so show you, and I
Speaker 1: was talking about it. I said, I'm looking at I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the Pacers. They only got three guys in
Speaker 1: double figures. That's not how they win games. They're a
Speaker 1: committee and they might not have anybody with thirty, but
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a bunch of teams in twenties, and
Speaker 1: you look at it that they have a fourteen or
Speaker 1: seventeen or thirteen or twelve or fifteen or twenty three
Speaker 1: out of twenty, they had eight guys of the guys
Speaker 1: that they had played. You know, they got a couple
Speaker 1: of guys to get in their mop up duty, but
Speaker 1: most of the guys that played got double figures.
Speaker 2: And it's hard to beat a team when you get
Speaker 2: eight of your ten main guys playing and they in
Speaker 2: double figures. Who do we check? We can't check.
Speaker 1: Everybody, And that's why they blew That's why they blew
Speaker 1: them out. That's why they ran them.
Speaker 2: Out the court.
Speaker 1: Let me, yes, why what teams are being successful now
Speaker 1: with what Shannon is saying, I'm gonna give you I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you them teams Cleveland, Boston, Oklaho, Oklahoma City
Speaker 1: go to say Warriors right now, who are playing very
Speaker 1: well when they got when they playing that way and
Speaker 1: that's how they play?
Speaker 2: What what?
Speaker 1: What what sh is saying is they gotta know who
Speaker 1: is Batman and Robin. You gotta be a role player,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And we don't.
Speaker 2: You don't have when of them.
Speaker 1: Teams on goal like that, they're not gonna win basketball games.
Speaker 1: I'm telling sometimes, you gotta be, you gotta be. You
Speaker 1: gotta have a commissioner. Gordon, you got you made everybody.
Speaker 1: You gotta have a you know what, I don't Okay,
Speaker 1: you got bad man, you got Robin Okay, whoever Okay
Speaker 1: in the door. You gotta have four the five people
Speaker 1: who are on the same page level. Oklahoma City is
Speaker 1: great like that, even in its great like that. Boston
Speaker 1: playing Boston is playing like that, and then you got
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of these scenes are playing like that.
Speaker 1: I think Denver and the Clippers are playing like that,
Speaker 1: and that's why that series is a very equal series.
Speaker 1: And they're two to two right now. You see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And it's gotta work that way. And once
Speaker 1: you put that together, then I'm with you. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you can't have one or two dudes,
Speaker 1: because you can't win with one of two guys.
Speaker 2: You can't do it.
Speaker 1: Not in this league right now, how they're so athletic,
Speaker 1: and how they just play off the talent.
Speaker 2: And they shoot threes, it's not going to happen. You're
Speaker 2: not gonna win that one. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: The most one of the two most interesting games today,
Speaker 1: and this is the game the chat's been begging us
Speaker 1: to talk about.
Speaker 2: The Lakers are close with that Minnesota.
Speaker 1: They have a twelve point I mean a ten point
Speaker 1: league going into the fourth quarter, but ant Man went
Speaker 1: Bersouri's forward sixteen of his game high forty three points
Speaker 1: as they outscored the Lakers thirty two to thirteen, Lakers
Speaker 1: thirty two to nineteen.
Speaker 2: Excuse me.
Speaker 1: The Lakers shot just five of eighteen in the fourth,
Speaker 1: including three or nine in the last five minutes.
Speaker 2: Lebron legs, I text Ash this and I text this early.
Speaker 1: I said, it looks like JJ is gonna roll with
Speaker 1: these guys the entire second half. I say, you talk
Speaker 1: about forty six minutes for Lebron on forty year old legs,
Speaker 1: you talking about Luca forty five and a half minutes.
Speaker 1: You're talking about Rui and Doe and Aar. I say,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a lot of weird terror. I say,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be very, very interesting. If this game comes
Speaker 1: down to the last three, four to five minutes, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be very interesting if the Lakers can hold up.
Speaker 1: And you see Lebron took two shots in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: He had zero points in the fourth quarter. He's exhausted.
Speaker 1: I think it's the first time in what twenty years
Speaker 1: that nobody subbed for the Lakers in the second half
Speaker 1: of a ball game. Everybody that started the game play
Speaker 1: twenty four minutes of a possible twenty four minutes.
Speaker 2: And now I'm concerned because I don't know how the
Speaker 2: Lakers play better.
Speaker 1: You got twenty three points on nine of sixteen shooting
Speaker 1: from ruin five to ten, twenty three points. You got
Speaker 1: Lebron twenty seven points of fifteen to eighteen. From the
Speaker 1: free throw line, he had twenty seven twelve eight, three steals,
Speaker 1: three blocks. Okay, you got Luca played gave you thirty eight,
Speaker 1: seven to seven from the free throw line. You only
Speaker 1: had one rebound to assists. They turned him into a score.
Speaker 1: You can live with that. I just don't want him
Speaker 1: to get thirty eight and twelve and assists. Told him
Speaker 1: you got ar he scored. He only scored seventeen, but
Speaker 1: he got all of those in the second half. The
Speaker 1: bitch gave him six points. And I think that was
Speaker 1: the difference in the ball game because their bitch gave
Speaker 1: you twenty points, nos Reed gave you twelve points, Devin
Speaker 1: Cienzo gave you eight points, and to kill Alexander Walker
Speaker 1: gave you six five points. But it was ad Man
Speaker 1: and ju Rabdo that really was. And Jayson Daniels McDaniel
Speaker 1: be playing unbelievable. I don't know where this guy came from,
Speaker 1: but he's been sensational in the Cotson. But and Man
Speaker 1: did what a superstar is supposed to do.
Speaker 2: Is a is as a teacher sopper. He plays like that,
Speaker 2: but it gives you more. I'm I'm I'm gonna compare
Speaker 2: you Daniels to my son.
Speaker 1: They give you everything they have to do to win
Speaker 1: basketball games, not just defense. When they start scoring and
Speaker 1: they do special stuff, their team is gonna win. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go back to that, Chad, listen what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go back to what what what China?
Speaker 2: Did you see?
Speaker 1: Why do you think Minnesota won? First of all, the
Speaker 1: Lakers can't play defense. They have no defense, said, oh,
Speaker 1: you feel me that that that's just a bad thing.
Speaker 1: So and they need a big to protect the rim.
Speaker 1: Once they get beaten. So now what happened was does
Speaker 1: that a man? God got busy? So let me tell
Speaker 1: you about this. What should you do about a guy
Speaker 1: who gets hot, double the ball out of his hand
Speaker 1: and make somebody else be special? But whether you know
Speaker 1: what they did, Minnesota got other people to come off
Speaker 1: the bitch and be special.
Speaker 2: And make shots. See that's a difference.
Speaker 1: I was at my son's game them last night and
Speaker 1: they were beating up Curry for a long time. I
Speaker 1: kept saying, get him off the ball, stop having him
Speaker 1: be on the ball so they can double him every time.
Speaker 1: And then they finally listened and started getting at the
Speaker 1: bottom and he started coming off picks.
Speaker 2: But when they saw doubling him, and all of a.
Speaker 1: Sudden, who started getting busy my son and other people
Speaker 1: and they beat him. You know what I'm saying, You
Speaker 1: will have to have a cast to support you. That's
Speaker 1: what the game is about. It ain't about superstars down
Speaker 1: there when his playoffs come, it ain't about superstars. It's
Speaker 1: about who's gonna support my superstar to get me to
Speaker 1: win basketball games?
Speaker 2: And the teams who are winning now aren't that guy.
Speaker 1: Cast The supports superstars, So when they superstars get to
Speaker 1: start going.
Speaker 2: Reason why it was.
Speaker 1: Got busy today because he was one on one with everybody,
Speaker 1: and ain't nobody gonna stop him one on one.
Speaker 2: If you start.
Speaker 1: Doubling on him and doubling him and everybody else and
Speaker 1: not making socks, you're not gonna win games.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen. So when you start doing that,
Speaker 2: what's gonna do?
Speaker 1: And my superstar passing play, passing the ball, and my
Speaker 1: other supporters start making buckets, then what the what the
Speaker 1: coach is gonna start saying.
Speaker 2: Man, don't leave him, don't leave him. We can't do it.
Speaker 1: But when your superstar go one on one, it's hard
Speaker 1: to guard a superstar one. Ain't nobody gonna guard nobody
Speaker 1: to stop nobody one on one?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Like with you Chad and with you Chatty and remember
Speaker 1: and they got single couples on y'all, y'a. I mean
Speaker 1: y'all that that that that just like uh uh fish streets, y'all.
Speaker 1: I mean like going out there and picking something. I
Speaker 1: kill y'all every time I see y'all one on one,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get everything on y'all. So y'all gotta get
Speaker 1: double you know who we're gonna go to that, We're
Speaker 1: gonna go to man and we're gonna kill them. That's
Speaker 1: how the game goes. And if you don't have a
Speaker 1: supported past, it's not gonna work. It's not gonna work
Speaker 1: in this league right now because these dudes are too
Speaker 1: athletic and they they can get it.
Speaker 2: So that's who are winning games.
Speaker 1: Now because they're auflet and they and they and they
Speaker 1: and they not make they're making shots, and our superstars
Speaker 1: don't have to work as hard as they do.
Speaker 2: The three. Yeah, hey uncle wha n GP want to
Speaker 2: look out the next game?
Speaker 3: Obviously, uh, watching the Lakers play with with Luca having
Speaker 3: a good game and then doing what he did, Lebron
Speaker 3: doing what he did early in the game, and they
Speaker 3: had contributions from everybody else. Obviously the bench didn't score
Speaker 3: and support the top the big guy. They're big three
Speaker 3: as as you should want to call it in a sense.
Speaker 3: But the Wolves having twenty off the bench and then
Speaker 3: having goddamn a man go crazy to night with forty three,
Speaker 3: you know, nine and six.
Speaker 2: You know that's what he's supposed to do. And you
Speaker 2: can't say or have a reason.
Speaker 3: We know Lebron is forty. You know, we understand that
Speaker 3: he's still playing the game, especially the time like this.
Speaker 3: It ain't no time to come out. It ain't you
Speaker 3: can't come out. You got to play the whole game.
Speaker 3: But you have to contribute more in that time, in
Speaker 3: crunch time in order for your team to win. You
Speaker 3: got to legs tired, legs feeling good. It don't matter that,
Speaker 3: that's just that's just what it is.
Speaker 2: So we can't make him.
Speaker 1: They don't do nothing anyway, They don't practice, they don't
Speaker 1: do nothing. That ain't tie. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And what I tell y'all he is is Shanley. He
Speaker 1: might be forty, but he's still doing what he do
Speaker 1: in his league. When you do what you do in
Speaker 1: this league and don't get no support and everybody keep
Speaker 1: focusing on.
Speaker 2: You and beat you, dadd you're gonna get tired.
Speaker 1: But you ain't got no support from nobody who making
Speaker 1: shots to free me up? Then that's gonna happen. Both
Speaker 1: of them gave thirty eight, twenty seven or whatever they
Speaker 1: want to. But at the end, it ain't nobody doing
Speaker 1: nothing but us too. All we gotta do is focus
Speaker 1: on you too, and then.
Speaker 2: What's gonna happen?
Speaker 1: You two ain't my other people ain't doing no cast.
Speaker 1: You see, my powder came off the bench and had support.
Speaker 2: So when it got time for the crucial job, you
Speaker 2: can't go.
Speaker 1: And double Edwards because I'm worried about these dudes off
Speaker 1: the bench, got worried about Julius, ran the word about Red.
Speaker 1: I'm worried about McDaniels. Made a bit three at the
Speaker 1: end three minute two of them, you right, and busted them.
Speaker 1: So now am I worried about him? Yes, I'm worried
Speaker 1: about him. So I can't go and say no, I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna try to guard him because he's gonna make scots.
Speaker 1: So that's freed up everybody. And with Lebron and Luca,
Speaker 1: you can't say that it ain't gonna work like that.
Speaker 1: We just go double them and hold that when they
Speaker 1: go to this other player, he gonna miss shots.
Speaker 2: And what did the Lakers do they need miss shots?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lebron had zero points in the first In the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, Luca had one rebound to assists.
Speaker 2: It's his fewest rebounds and assists ever in a playoff game.
Speaker 2: The bench.
Speaker 1: Nav Reid had a navs. Reed had twelve, Devincenzo had six.
Speaker 1: Lakers excuse me, Devincenzo had eight and the Lakers had six.
Speaker 1: And so it seems to me that they were like,
Speaker 1: you know what, we're content. We're gonna make you will
Speaker 1: let you score. Yeah, but what we're not gonna do
Speaker 1: is let you get thirty eight and eight assists. Thirty
Speaker 1: eight and ten assists because now the others are involved.
Speaker 1: And so Luke and that played right into their hands.
Speaker 1: You see, and you look at at Man. What did
Speaker 1: that man have today? At Man had forty three and
Speaker 1: six assists. Yeah, you see, he got was involved. If
Speaker 1: you see assist, people like, well, why he didn't have
Speaker 1: no assist? Well I would have I would have had
Speaker 1: a double digits in the fifth if God could have
Speaker 1: made shots. Josh Luca smoked two layups. Lebron smoked the
Speaker 1: layup Offster Reeve smoked the layup. When you playing a
Speaker 1: team like this, you have to cash in on every opportunity,
Speaker 1: every wet Let's make another case of this. Look at
Speaker 1: the different game yesterday against the Clippers. You you you
Speaker 1: seen the joker, he was killing right, They're all try
Speaker 1: to go and go at him on the last second
Speaker 1: ninety nine, ninety nine, he go and take a faded
Speaker 1: away three. They worried about him. Everybody worried about him.
Speaker 1: And then the air ball and who makes the who
Speaker 1: make the final dunk to win the game?
Speaker 2: Aaron. So that's what I'm trying to tell y'all. Y'all
Speaker 2: tell you, we gotta understand that other role.
Speaker 1: Players gotta beat that type of guy man with this,
Speaker 1: with this different stuff, that's what it is. And he
Speaker 1: wind up with what thirty something twenty some rebounds to
Speaker 1: a Yeah, he had like thirty six, thirty six, twenty
Speaker 1: one and eight. And that's what is so all about.
Speaker 1: Your role players have to be with you in this
Speaker 1: day of era, in this basketball game to win basketball, man,
Speaker 1: it is check this that out, check gp check this
Speaker 1: that out. Nov Reed in the fourth corner of this
Speaker 1: series has twenty six points. He's nine of ten from
Speaker 1: the field goal and field goal. He's six or six
Speaker 1: from three and clutch the last five minutes of the
Speaker 1: ball game. Oh Joe, the game was this within five points.
Speaker 1: That's what they consider the clutch time. He's six or
Speaker 1: six from the three in clutch situation. He's nine of
Speaker 1: ten for the floor with twenty six points. I mean,
Speaker 1: you talk, you talk about Jordan, you talking about Kobe whomever,
Speaker 1: they've never been like this. You talk about the guy
Speaker 1: that's bits one shot, he's perfect from the three.
Speaker 2: And that's what we're talking about. Ojoe here. Man, these
Speaker 2: separate dudes you have to have on your team. You remember,
Speaker 2: you remember.
Speaker 1: The Lakers had Robert Horry who did this thing in
Speaker 1: they day. You know what I'm saying. When you have
Speaker 1: big shot, box shot, it's a big shot.
Speaker 2: You want a god.
Speaker 1: And I tell people, as I coach now in junior college,
Speaker 1: I said, you want to be on the floor with
Speaker 1: six minutes. You're the closer. You're the closer. I want
Speaker 1: you to make big shots for with him. And read
Speaker 1: what was he last year?
Speaker 2: Six Man of the Year. You you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He coming in and making these big time shots. And
Speaker 1: that's what you want from these dudes. And that's where
Speaker 1: you're gonna win championships. That's the only way you're gonna
Speaker 1: win championships.
Speaker 2: In this NBA.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, listen, now that we got that, we got
Speaker 3: all that good stuff out the way, let's talk about
Speaker 3: the meat and potatoes of this series and what's going
Speaker 3: on right now? The Lakers are down three to one. Yep,
Speaker 3: and the GP.
Speaker 2: GP can probably attested this and have a better answer.
Speaker 3: But I'm sure Unk you probably knew as well, being
Speaker 3: as your knowledge and and and and and the acumen
Speaker 3: of the game of basketball is good. Do you see
Speaker 3: any scenario at all, any type of magical situation with
Speaker 3: the Laker.
Speaker 2: GP? I see GP take shaking his head. They wait, wait,
Speaker 2: so you still feel there's a possibility that the Lakers
Speaker 2: can come back.
Speaker 1: Down from Stop it, man, you can better dinner on
Speaker 1: this that it will have better better run it, run
Speaker 1: it anywhere you want to go matter.
Speaker 2: I'm with it. I'm with that.
Speaker 1: The Lakers don't beat them three in a row. Ain't
Speaker 1: no way, no possible. We're going sell against going gays.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be going seven because guess what we
Speaker 1: got that see the problem that the problem that JJ
Speaker 1: ran into is that Lebron had just played thirty eight
Speaker 1: forty minutes a night ago, and then you follow that up. Now,
Speaker 1: the best thing about this they don't play again until Wednesday,
Speaker 1: So Lebron get an extra date, Luca get an extra day.
Speaker 2: We got this. We're gonna go back to Minnesota. We're
Speaker 2: gonna get that, and then we coming back there.
Speaker 3: Ah, so we are we saying the fact that that
Speaker 3: they're losing is because their legs are tired.
Speaker 1: Because no, no, no, no, no, that's a good team.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, oh, Joe, when you play, just imagine
Speaker 1: how your legs feel. Just imagine if you had to
Speaker 1: play a football game on Monday and then you got
Speaker 1: to play another one on Wednesday, not Thursday, Monday, Wednesday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean good, I mean good. I know you what
Speaker 1: you would, but be good at forty playing wide receiver.
Speaker 2: I mean you would? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is different though you got see, our mentality is
Speaker 1: different than that. Though you can't tell the kids up
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, our mentality is.
Speaker 2: But GV.
Speaker 1: You can have a mentality all you want to that body, no,
Speaker 1: the mind winning, but the body just.
Speaker 2: Ain't able to get it cool.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick it. I gonna get my legs. He's right,
Speaker 1: I ain't going to practice, I ain't doing none of that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna come back and give you a fix.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now. And first of all, these
Speaker 1: dudes got a lot. But you gotta understand. They lost
Speaker 1: in LA. They lost it else. Minnesota came in. We
Speaker 1: defend a home. It's gonna be hard for you to
Speaker 1: beat them. They gonna go to l A Minnesota. L
Speaker 1: A Minnesota ain't gonna lose it home. I'm gar We
Speaker 1: got them.
Speaker 2: We spoke.
Speaker 1: We actually were supposed to have to took two of them,
Speaker 1: were supposed to have took both of them.
Speaker 2: Got don't get we got this GP. We got that
Speaker 2: got you.
Speaker 3: Hold on, well wait, wait, hold on, when y'all when
Speaker 3: y'all have a bed, right when y'all have a bet
Speaker 3: and you talk about say in the bet, uh is
Speaker 3: there a certain amount?
Speaker 2: Is there certain restaurants you can't you want to go? Maney? Yeah,
Speaker 2: we got this.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because I'm come there on
Speaker 1: three one. They ain't coming back like that. They hold
Speaker 1: they all.
Speaker 2: Hey, you now you know if anybody know how to
Speaker 2: come back from a three one death for the GP?
Speaker 2: Are you look at it? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, looking, I'm telling you I did it. But that
Speaker 1: ain't gonna happen. That ain't gonna happen. Looking shouting, This
Speaker 1: ain't no mentality of us. I'm gonna tell you on time, man,
Speaker 1: these dudes ain't cut like that. Man, I don't kid
Speaker 1: what saying matter of fact like us, man, they ain't
Speaker 1: cut like man. I'm gonna go man, we're gonna botel
Speaker 1: for three games. These does want to go on vacation,
Speaker 1: right you know ship? Yeah, man, look at.
Speaker 2: And yeah. I want to make it said, I want
Speaker 2: to make a sad man. I can make you. Oh,
Speaker 2: you can't make no show. I went what that's oh
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I'm saying I'm not I'm you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. What cause good? Sat? I say you can't
Speaker 2: make it back because you already oh something? Who are you? Listen?
Speaker 3: I listen, listen and listen I'm doing. I'm doing right
Speaker 3: by him on fifty two hundred right, but as long
Speaker 3: as that fifty tred plus fifteen okay, But you're not
Speaker 3: the bank. You can't add You can't that that much.
Speaker 2: Have you ever go to the banking borrowing money without
Speaker 2: paying on the money. I ain't never borrow no money
Speaker 2: from the bank. We ghetto man can't.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 2: You can't do it like that. We in the masia.
Speaker 2: You can't do all. Yeah, let that go. Man, Let
Speaker 2: that I got.
Speaker 4: Let that say, right, hey, GP, I gotta put a
Speaker 4: little to keep a bottle or something. You don't know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying me and get your say and let
Speaker 4: that go. I mean, listen, I'm I'm a GP. I'm
Speaker 4: just trying to give him. I'm giving I'm trying to
Speaker 4: give him a chance to double his money. So if
Speaker 4: you I didn't want that, whatever, I just I just
Speaker 4: play doubling nothing, double nothing, double en nothing said, I
Speaker 4: gotta go shouting. Make just get fifty then.
Speaker 2: That all that? Okay? Okay and fifty. You gotta how
Speaker 2: you wanna double? He want? He want to double up
Speaker 2: five money? Hey bank, Hey bank, I know I owe you.
Speaker 1: I know I owe you a couple of hundred thousand,
Speaker 1: but live been another hey double or nothing?
Speaker 2: A couple hundreds.
Speaker 3: I just said, I'm giving opportunity. I'm giving opportunity to
Speaker 3: double the money. When I do pay you, you have
Speaker 3: more than what you was gonna get in the first place.
Speaker 1: That ain't what that shoulder that I hadn't got what
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be gotten at the end of
Speaker 1: the season. The likelihood to be getting that double ain't
Speaker 1: happening either. Now, I told you when I see, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pay you. That's all fifty nine eighty. You owe
Speaker 1: me fifty nine eighty plus that fifteen percent fifty nine.
Speaker 2: It went to fifty to fifty nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, only in this economy. Well, I don't know, y'all,
Speaker 1: thank you even my money this economy. Lebron said, tied
Speaker 1: legs was not the cause of the missus. JJ Ready
Speaker 1: became the first coach to play five players for an
Speaker 1: entire half in the playoffs. JJ said on this started
Speaker 1: playing then tire second half. It wasn't playing, but we
Speaker 1: just made this decision at halftime. Magic Johnson questioned the strategy.
Speaker 1: I'm just sick to my stomach that the Lakers lost
Speaker 1: this game after Benning controlled most of the second half.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's smart to play Lebron and
Speaker 1: Luca the entire second half after only having one day
Speaker 1: rest between Game three and four. We needed Lebron to
Speaker 1: take over the fourth quarter, and he couldn't. He's scored
Speaker 1: zero points in the fourth I agree, I agree the
Speaker 1: resks mister trip Luca got tripped. I mean that was
Speaker 1: a blatant trip. He doesn't following us on. We we
Speaker 1: watched it. He gets tripped, so we should have been
Speaker 1: at the free throw line. Yes, Luca missed the smoked
Speaker 1: the layup that would have put him up seven. They
Speaker 1: come down here to three. So now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: been up seven, you're only up two. You see, you
Speaker 1: see how momentum swing. Lebron missed the layup, had come
Speaker 1: out of time out, had a great curl set, smokes
Speaker 1: that layup. Ar smoked the layup. It's just the look
Speaker 1: I think it was. Lebron Is said he don't want
Speaker 1: to make excuses, but gp when you asked that man,
Speaker 1: the dude, the man had he let he had more
Speaker 1: the most rebounds of anybody to touch the court today,
Speaker 1: He had the most desist of anybody to touch the
Speaker 1: court today. He had the most block shots. He had
Speaker 1: the most stealed. Well, no, Deevin Chienzo had the most staled.
Speaker 1: But you talk about a forty year old then letting rebounds,
Speaker 1: leading block shots, letting assist, you're asking a think about
Speaker 1: what you're asking a forty year old, a forty year old,
Speaker 1: what you're asking him to do, and shouting I'm gonna
Speaker 1: comment on that. We we own a freaking of nature
Speaker 1: you got to do. I get it what you're saying about.
Speaker 1: We asked you. He's different. He's a lot different. I
Speaker 1: don't agree with him not getting no rest in the
Speaker 1: second half. I think you rested for two or three
Speaker 1: four minutes each quarter, recive for like two or three
Speaker 1: minutes and bringing back and do the same thing. But
Speaker 1: what I do with jj Ima, I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: jj Ready's defense. He was saying, I can't lose this game.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with my player who I think gonna
Speaker 1: give me something.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He shouldn't have did that.
Speaker 2: You know, and timeouts don't cut it. Sometime it don't work.
Speaker 1: I would have gave him three to four minutes for
Speaker 1: five minutes every quarter. I would have did five minutes
Speaker 1: and then still control it. I get what magic is saying.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: To give him his legs, I would have gave him
Speaker 1: third quarter outda set he fired at six minutes and.
Speaker 2: Then played him the whole fourth war. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, That's what I would have did.
Speaker 1: It was it was a bad decision on his behalf,
Speaker 1: But I thinking what jj is thinking.
Speaker 2: As the first year he needed game and it didn't
Speaker 2: work out for him.
Speaker 1: Now what he's gonna go back, He's gonna read evaluate everything.
Speaker 1: He's gonna give him rests because they need this win
Speaker 1: in LA on Wednesday, and I think they gonna get
Speaker 1: the win on LA on Winsday. They wouldn't get it.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, so he should. He should have
Speaker 1: evaluated that a little bit different. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: legs and all that. I think he got tired and
Speaker 1: they went away from everything that they did to me.
Speaker 1: You go, put Lebron on the block. See if they're
Speaker 1: gonna double me. Let him guard one on one and
Speaker 1: go out.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: And if you watch the game, it's that too high.
Speaker 1: Watch Luca, watch Lebron our focus on all of y'all.
Speaker 1: Put him on the block, let him come down there
Speaker 1: and double you know.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, and do things like that.
Speaker 1: But they don't play that way, y'all know, Shannon Chap
Speaker 1: this game made like a if I see you and
Speaker 1: Chad on the disavantage, man, I'm one want y'all play
Speaker 1: air a game.
Speaker 2: I'm until until they stop it, until they stop.
Speaker 1: It, and with me will Lebron being six eight two six,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on the block. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: you on the top where everybody get focus in on
Speaker 1: you and we can stuck in. Put you on the block,
Speaker 1: and if you gotta come duct with me, let me
Speaker 1: kick it to somebody hit a jumper.
Speaker 2: Then you're gonna start being a relevant that way. And
Speaker 2: they didn't play that game.
Speaker 1: I knew Lebron was gonna play a ton of minutes
Speaker 1: today because he normally takes his break at about six
Speaker 1: minutes six point thirty. He didn't take his break today
Speaker 1: until about four minutes. He got two minutes and then
Speaker 1: he was right back in the game and he didn't
Speaker 1: come out again.
Speaker 2: So I knew it was gonna be one of those.
Speaker 2: In our texted ash and said, as first of.
Speaker 1: All, I knew they were in trouble GP, Lebron is
Speaker 1: going off, Luca is going off, and they got a
Speaker 1: four point lead. Let that think it now all my
Speaker 1: artillery and I only got a four point lead, and
Speaker 1: these guys are going haywhy in the first half. So
Speaker 1: that's not good because if normally when guys going off,
Speaker 1: that's a ten, that's a twelve fourteen point lead. You
Speaker 1: got both of your big guns in Minnesota's right there.
Speaker 1: So they got to feel good. And as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, they had a three point lead at the half.
Speaker 1: They're like, hold on, Lebron had twenty two, Luca got
Speaker 1: twenty one. That's forty three right there, and we still
Speaker 1: got the lead we could. It's the same thing with
Speaker 1: the Laker when they lost to the Nuggets, when Lebron
Speaker 1: went crazy in the first half. He had like thirty
Speaker 1: thirty two points. Remember that game in the first half,
Speaker 1: They're like, oh.
Speaker 2: He done hit us hard, he blew and load. We
Speaker 2: got this.
Speaker 1: He ended up he had he had thirty two at
Speaker 1: the half, ended up having forty for the game because
Speaker 1: he exerted so much and it wasn't enough to get
Speaker 1: the separation that he needed.
Speaker 2: Luke and Lebron exerted so much. Lebron.
Speaker 1: I think Lebron had five points in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: none in the fourth quarter. But they did a great
Speaker 1: job of taxing them. And because I think a lot
Speaker 1: of this GP because Lebron is so tired, they like
Speaker 1: he's not even a threat when he on the block,
Speaker 1: because that's normally Julius random Julius Radama takes a lot
Speaker 1: out of you because he's a big body guy. He
Speaker 1: wants a bang on you. He's gonna bang you when
Speaker 1: you playing defense on him. He's gonna bang on you
Speaker 1: when you're playing defense for him. He's gonna bang on
Speaker 1: you for it's just bang bang bang. And after a
Speaker 1: while that takes that. That's but let me tell you this,
Speaker 1: Even doing that, why do I get even fun truck?
Speaker 1: Let him bang bang, be mad, I go at him,
Speaker 1: spin on him, do the things you do. But does
Speaker 1: mean you gotta work the game the way, the right way, y'all.
Speaker 1: Remember when I played get me the ball on the block.
Speaker 1: I want you to bang on me because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: spind on you and donna kill you every day. You know.
Speaker 2: So God, and get to that level.
Speaker 1: Where Lebron has to learn, don't bang bang, bank work
Speaker 1: with him, get random out of the game because what's
Speaker 1: the next person that's gonna come in that game on
Speaker 1: Minnesota's bench that can handle me?
Speaker 2: Not too many people. Not too many people.
Speaker 1: So that's that's being coach and being smart. That's why
Speaker 1: say nowadays IQ ain't in this game. It's all about
Speaker 1: it's athletic ability. This ain't no IQ game right now.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna telling everybody, ain't too many guys in here
Speaker 1: got IQ's like that.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Lebron don't have to bang it. Boy.
Speaker 2: If he hit me one.
Speaker 1: Time on my back spin, only get a file, get
Speaker 1: him in foul trouble, then what's gonna happen? You gonna suck,
Speaker 1: He gonna suck. And ain't nobody gonna comep that bench
Speaker 1: that don't handle Lebron who muscled and bullied him. But
Speaker 1: when you get a guy who's checked out and he tight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but let's say again, sham, let's think about the last
Speaker 1: player of the game.
Speaker 2: We Lebron did. He turned the ball over again, He
Speaker 2: turned the ball over.
Speaker 1: They can't get it? Why can't they get the ball
Speaker 1: in bound? Because we've seen reef We've seen so many times. Guys,
Speaker 1: does anybody know how the hard cut? Does anybody back?
Speaker 2: He Shanny? What about just putting your four on him
Speaker 2: and just post and and and get off and throw
Speaker 2: the ball down that way posted? Why you don't do that?
Speaker 2: Why you don't do that?
Speaker 1: And then if they try to double me, what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do. I'm gonna get the ball to the
Speaker 1: next dude and post it up. I'm telling you once again,
Speaker 1: I Q I Q in this game, if you want
Speaker 1: to get me the ball, I'm gonna get the ball.
Speaker 1: Especially if we can go in the back court. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hold you off, push you off, and you throw
Speaker 1: that ball out there and I'm gonna go get it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it. Don't try to make rid of
Speaker 2: them heroic paths that you see. Man, these dudes is
Speaker 2: not having IQ's like that. They don't have IQ's like that.
Speaker 2: Hold on, But both of y'all said the same thing,
Speaker 2: right you and you and UNC got a friendly them.
Speaker 3: You say Laker's gonna lose, Well, both of you came
Speaker 3: came to came to the party and both said, Hell,
Speaker 3: the Lakers might win. Are gonna win Wenesdy. You said
Speaker 3: they're gonna win the game Winnsday GP. So if they
Speaker 3: could win the game Wednesday, if they could win one,
Speaker 3: they can win two.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that. But you're gonna desert. You're
Speaker 1: gonna desert a lie? Do you on home against a
Speaker 1: team that's in Minnesota that plays.
Speaker 2: Well at home? They played well at home.
Speaker 1: I get it, you gonna exert all your time, but
Speaker 1: think about the the really the odds of everything. Came
Speaker 1: back from a three to one series deficit and win
Speaker 1: as many games as they win.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna win three in a row. I'm just
Speaker 2: not gonna say that. I can't do it.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't lost two games in Minnesota. You
Speaker 1: lost one game at home, and you lost the first
Speaker 1: game chat home. So why what do you think now?
Speaker 1: And what have Shanna see? Tryna say? They're getting no
Speaker 1: legs of tie? They got two days off.
Speaker 2: What you gonna do? How are you gonna work that out?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Is your mindset that I'm gonna try to win it? Chap,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you again, do you think they mindset
Speaker 1: is saying then when we're gonna come back and win
Speaker 1: three in a row.
Speaker 2: They're not doing that. They're talking about going home, they
Speaker 2: talk about going to the can't cool. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And we'll work with it next year. You
Speaker 2: feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, it's gonna be hard for the Lakers
Speaker 1: to win three in a row against this young Hall
Speaker 1: team that's shining.
Speaker 2: Us.
Speaker 1: Just told people are coming off the bench doing what
Speaker 1: they do. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And do what they do.
Speaker 1: Then we're thinking about the NBA. If hey don't want
Speaker 1: it to be like on the City, go so blak.
Speaker 1: They trying to get TV TV.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, y'all, y'all, y'all cut into the you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying now, I ain't gonna keep that.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna do whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call them calls that I have to call whatever, whatever,
Speaker 1: And you gotta think about it.
Speaker 2: Do chat. Who you think is motality? What team you
Speaker 2: think it was? Motality? Chat?
Speaker 1: Minnesota Lakers, They're not gonna do that, man, and people
Speaker 1: coming off the bench doing what they do. Shiney just
Speaker 1: told their bench is being more productive than electrics.
Speaker 2: Bench cou go be the people that support the superstar Cats.
Speaker 1: I think Minnesota got that. Dang agree, diagree. And that's
Speaker 1: the thing. I mean, you you they were so close.
Speaker 1: They had a ten point lead. I'm not so sure
Speaker 1: with a ten point lead, I think I try to
Speaker 1: give I think I try to give Lebron uh two
Speaker 1: minutes to start the fourth we gotta lead. Well, Chad,
Speaker 1: I say like this, like they with the Warriors, subby
Speaker 1: three minutes, bring him in subby mess seven, he got
Speaker 1: five minutes on the clock. Then back in the fourth.
Speaker 1: Let the whole fourth for it. You see what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how you gotta do it.
Speaker 2: But I just don't think that chemistry is right.
Speaker 1: When you got two guys on both sides I saw
Speaker 1: in the basketball and you're watching them play basketball, that's
Speaker 1: not a good deal for me. It's just like, well
Speaker 1: we did when we played basketball. We put it in
Speaker 1: the post and let our big man dominate. If you
Speaker 1: don't get it, if he's gonna score every time, but
Speaker 1: if you start a scoring, we're gonna doublely And what
Speaker 1: do our big man do? Kick it and we can
Speaker 1: eagit our buckets and we rotate, rotating and make people rotate.
Speaker 2: That ain't the game nowadays.
Speaker 1: Were just talking about shooting threes one wise, so trying
Speaker 1: to do what we do, and it don't work if
Speaker 1: you don't have that cast that's making them big time shots,
Speaker 1: which Minnesota did today that the big time shots, and
Speaker 1: it don't work.
Speaker 2: It won't work. It just won't work.
Speaker 1: They definitely's definitely got their work cut off for them.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to play hopefully. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you can get another twenty five point game out of
Speaker 1: Ruin Hota more. Ruin was sensational today. This is by
Speaker 1: far his best game in the playoffs, and he played
Speaker 1: extremely well. Know if you're gonna be able to get
Speaker 1: because he was five or ten, he was nine of sixteen,
Speaker 1: played fifty forty one minutes, gave me twenty three points.
Speaker 1: Lebron was twenty seven twelve, eight three three. Austar reeves.
Speaker 1: He came into that. He didn't play it.
Speaker 2: He was terrible.
Speaker 1: He got in fil trouble. He was terrible in the
Speaker 1: first half. Seventeen seventeen, seven and four. I can live
Speaker 1: with that. I might have it something spread out. But
Speaker 1: Julius Rendel starting up game off, he was extremely aggressive,
Speaker 1: and that's what that's his game. He's an aggressive player.
Speaker 1: He's gonna try to put the ball in the foor.
Speaker 1: He's gonna put pressure, he's gonna attack the rim. Jayde
Speaker 1: Daniels Jadon McDaniels didn't start offstrong, but down the scretch
Speaker 1: he made all the hustle plays. He got the and one,
Speaker 1: he made a big time three ant man was a man,
Speaker 1: but it was Nods reading done Devincenzo, Devincenzo getting a rebound,
Speaker 1: knocking down a three, You getting nods Red knocking down
Speaker 1: two big threes, Devincenzo getting an and one. And I thought,
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what because Deevin Chimzel got
Speaker 1: one and Lebron's skyted is like, oh the old man
Speaker 1: still got some still got some juice in the tank
Speaker 1: or GP.
Speaker 2: But it I just think the thing is, yeah, they
Speaker 2: were tired.
Speaker 1: But ant man, he said, he's dreamed this whole He's
Speaker 1: dripped this whole life of these moments. And you can
Speaker 1: tell twelve or twenty three, five or ten from the
Speaker 1: three point line, fourteen or seventeen nine rebounds, six or
Speaker 1: sis and he only had one turnover.
Speaker 2: For Chad and Shannon.
Speaker 1: He told you did something when he was in the
Speaker 1: way he was out when he started shooting threes playing
Speaker 1: is Steph Kirky And he said, man, I was in
Speaker 1: them games shooting them threes. What is he came back
Speaker 1: and did? He said, I'm gonna shoot more threes. This
Speaker 1: hit and look at his percentage come on the threes.
Speaker 1: His confidence is way here. When you give a player
Speaker 1: like that that type of ability to do that and
Speaker 1: become that type of player.
Speaker 2: Put him on the Olympic team. Diggin't that type of ability.
Speaker 1: To become a suit to start a real start, and
Speaker 1: he make his shots and he get confident. It's hard
Speaker 1: to stomper basketball player like that. And he has proven it.
Speaker 1: He has proven it that he is the primary player
Speaker 1: to be that NBA player and take over this league.
Speaker 2: And that's what he's doing every day after them, after
Speaker 2: them games, and he's doing his post. All he doing
Speaker 2: is smile because he knows easy. It's easy for his ease.
Speaker 1: And that's what he's doing, and he's showing you that
Speaker 1: he can put this team on his back. They thought
Speaker 1: when they got rid of a cat Cat that it
Speaker 1: was gonna be all over.
Speaker 2: No, that boy took this. It took this game to
Speaker 2: another level.
Speaker 1: And then what he do and then is sixth day
Speaker 1: is sixth seed being the third seed. That's what these
Speaker 1: teams is.
Speaker 2: That's why I tell everybody stop talking about these seeds
Speaker 2: and all that. But he's eighty two games. That is
Speaker 2: that is just crap to me.
Speaker 1: You gotta go play these playoffs and get out. And
Speaker 1: they showing Lakers that I don't care what seed you are.
Speaker 2: We gonna go get at you. And they get that.
Speaker 1: The thing is is that when you look at it,
Speaker 1: GP is that because he can shoot the three, you
Speaker 1: gotta hug up on him. And now he can go
Speaker 1: by you. You see what he's going by. He's gonna kick. Oh,
Speaker 1: He's going all the way to the rim. So it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I have a playoff him. Hand down, man down, Mark Jackson.
Speaker 1: And so now he's got that three ball in his bag.
Speaker 1: He always had the ability to go around you and
Speaker 1: finish over top of me. So how do I defend him?
Speaker 1: If I give him to if I give him too
Speaker 1: much airspace, he gonna rides up and shoot the He
Speaker 1: gonna raise up and shoot the three. If I hug
Speaker 1: up on him to take away the three, he gonna
Speaker 1: go buy me and finish on top of me. So
Speaker 1: I mean you're at his mercy And you say thing
Speaker 1: with Steph Curry. Steph Curry used to be he settled
Speaker 1: for the three. Now you see Steph putting the ball
Speaker 1: on the floor and get to his float and then Shanny,
Speaker 1: you think out that when I was at the game
Speaker 1: last night, what Houston trying to do to steph Curry
Speaker 1: was doubling. Every time I kept screaming, I said, get
Speaker 1: him off the ball. Don't let him dumb it. Let
Speaker 1: him come off the baseline and do like Reggie Miller
Speaker 1: or Rip Hamilton.
Speaker 2: And they add his merchings that Houston fell apart. They
Speaker 2: fell apart.
Speaker 1: But what did the warriors do? He had other people
Speaker 1: who made shots and the things that they knew because
Speaker 1: once and then what Curry did. He started being one
Speaker 1: on one and then he started being kurty. He liked
Speaker 1: the he liked the PlayStation. You see, it's PlayStation right,
Speaker 1: and he started cooking and he started hitting shots. And
Speaker 1: then they started doing it, and he started making the
Speaker 1: right pass. And then they start finishing. They start saying, man,
Speaker 1: what can I do? And when they started finishing, he
Speaker 1: started going one on one and it ain't Nobody can
Speaker 1: guard nobody like that, with no talent like that.
Speaker 2: One on one, there's no way, no way.
Speaker 1: The volume
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