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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, everybody, second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being here with us.

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Speaker 2: We're going to dive into the Biden email situation in

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Speaker 2: a second, but I also.

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Speaker 1: Wanted to just get into for a.

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Speaker 2: Moment if we can here what the Wall Street Journal

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Speaker 2: was calling the race to succeed President Biden is heating

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Speaker 2: up on the twenty twenty four campaign trail.

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Speaker 1: Now, Clay, so this is what I find so interesting

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Speaker 1: about this. You have.

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Speaker 2: There's some political dynamics that we all need to keep

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Speaker 2: in mind going this.

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Speaker 1: First of all, you're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna have and I know it's not determined yet, and

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Speaker 2: who knows. And I'm the one who always says nobody knows, right,

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Speaker 2: but Clay and I know a lot, but nobody knows everything,

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Speaker 2: and certainly nobody knows about the future. That looks like

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Speaker 2: it's going to be Trump as a nominee. So if

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be Trump as a nominee, you're have Trump.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's gonna be Biden. Clay thinks it

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Speaker 2: still might not, but you're gonna have two guys. If

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Speaker 2: that is the case, who only.

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Speaker 1: Can have one term?

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Speaker 2: Right, Both candidates would only be able to serve four

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Speaker 2: more years either way. So that invites a lot of

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Speaker 2: calculations on the Republican and the Democrat side about well,

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Speaker 2: who's the successor? You know, if you're gonna if you think,

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Speaker 2: if you think about this, you gotta wait eight years

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Speaker 2: before it's your time. Who knows what's gonna happen in

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Speaker 2: eight years, right, I mean, you know, how do you

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Speaker 2: stay relevant? What's the what's the electricate gonna look like?

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's all these different things. Four years, a

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Speaker 2: lot of politicians will be like, yeah, I can, I

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Speaker 2: can h war game out how to do this for

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Speaker 2: the next four years. This is interesting because circling around

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Speaker 2: on the Democrat side, you have this this game that

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Speaker 2: they're playing this with the Wall Street Journals writting about

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Speaker 2: where you have obviously Gavin Newsom, but a number of

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Speaker 2: others as well.

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Speaker 1: Who are doing this.

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Speaker 2: Oh. I'm just you know, they're running kind of under

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Speaker 2: the fig lee, not running, but they're running around the

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Speaker 2: country under the fig leaf that this is just about

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Speaker 2: getting to know the nation and wink wink, it's really

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Speaker 2: about twenty twenty eight, but it may also be about

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four at the same time. Right, So they're

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Speaker 2: playing this double game, and you're starting to see a

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Speaker 2: number of these candidates.

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Speaker 1: But what's so interesting is how does.

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Speaker 2: And this is again the piece is about Kamala or

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Speaker 2: rather the photo in the piece is Kamala Harris play.

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Speaker 1: There is a vice president right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that on the one hand, you

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Speaker 2: have some of these Democrats like Nushim and others who

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Speaker 2: I mean to say that they're ambitious as the understatement

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Speaker 2: of the century, but they also don't want to be

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Speaker 2: seen as undermining the existing Biden Harris ticket that is

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Speaker 2: still what they've got. But they also want to prepare

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Speaker 2: themselves to shove Kamala aside as they can get away

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Speaker 1: Right, So there's a dance going on here.

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Speaker 3: A part of me feels like, narratively, buck, the only

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Speaker 3: way that identity politics gets blown up in a really

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Speaker 3: big way is by Joe Biden winning re election, dying,

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Speaker 3: and or becoming so incapacitated that he can no longer

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Speaker 3: be president. Kamala Harris gets elevated and everybody says, holy crap,

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Speaker 3: how did this ever happen? And the answer is because California,

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Speaker 3: which is ahead of the curve on this diversity and

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Speaker 3: identity cosmetic theater, BS decided that Kamala Harris, half Indian,

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Speaker 3: California to look like both as Attorney General and then

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Speaker 3: as Senator. And this was the essence of her entire campaign.

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Speaker 3: But Americans, remember this is important. She dropped out of

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Speaker 3: the race before any vote occurred in the Democrat primary

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Speaker 3: with one or two percent of the support. Black people

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Speaker 3: didn't rally to her. Democrats didn't rally to her. As

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Speaker 3: you mentioned earlier, Buck, in theory, black women who vote

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Speaker 3: ninety seven to three should have all said, finally, we've got, hallelujah,

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Speaker 3: a black woman who is going to represent us at

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Speaker 3: the head of the party ticket. They didn't show up

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Speaker 3: for Kamala, and I think on many levels it's because

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Speaker 3: identity politics is SOBS. But I think the whole nation,

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Speaker 3: Buck sadly, might need to see someone like Kamala Harris

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Speaker 3: elevated far beyond what her actual capabilities as a leader

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Speaker 3: involves way too much faith in people's ability to see.

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Speaker 1: What people would just defend. I think.

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Speaker 3: So, I think if Biden, like I can't believe we

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Speaker 3: have to even talk about this. But if Biden won,

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Speaker 3: I think he would die or become so physically incapacitated

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Speaker 3: that Kamala Harris would get elevated.

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Speaker 1: I want to put down this mark right now.

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Speaker 3: I believe that we even have to have this conversation

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Speaker 3: about whether the president would die. And we not because

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Speaker 3: he's getting assassinated or because some like unexpected occurrence happens,

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Speaker 3: but just because I don't think Joe Biden can live

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Speaker 3: for five more years.

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Speaker 1: He's based on looking at him.

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Speaker 2: You know, he could be you know, eating breakfast one

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Speaker 2: moment and then I mean the guy's that old, yes, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, what if.

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Speaker 1: The president were ninety years old?

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Speaker 2: Would it be strange for us to sit around and say, guys,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much longer?

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Speaker 1: No, the president, I mean he's over eighty. He's going

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Speaker 3: Mean, well by the time he's he's going to turn

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Speaker 3: eighty one this year, he will turn eighty two next

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Speaker 3: year before the election, right, Okay, so even before the

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Speaker 3: election he'll be I think, I think I'm right.

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Speaker 2: So that's now the age thing. Democrats say, it's a problem.

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Speaker 2: I've been saying this all along. I know people don't

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Speaker 2: want to hear it, but we all know it's true.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to run a seventy eight year old

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Speaker 2: all that much, you know. So this is just one

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Speaker 2: of the one of the issues. You know, we can

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Speaker 2: talk about maga. Trump's amazing, he does a great president,

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Speaker 2: all these phenomenal things.

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Speaker 1: True, but the age thing is largely.

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Speaker 2: Nullified as an election issue. If you have people who

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Speaker 2: are seventy eight and eighty two.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't see how else you can you

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Speaker 2: Kamala thing, if I can for a moment here.

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. They also don't want to.

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Speaker 2: Undermine her because I'm when I see they these Democrats.

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Speaker 2: Newsom is like the Newsom is the king of the

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Speaker 1: He's gonna text him after the show. They're gonna go

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Speaker 1: surfing together in Malibu.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna get all the all the dirt first, you

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Speaker 2: get all the story, but uh, we we got to

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Speaker 2: get him on the show at some point. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna come at him like you come at Pegreat.

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Speaker 2: We made a request, and they seem to hole about it.

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Speaker 2: I think November is when this disanta new some debate's

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Speaker 2: understand the Biden people being like, you're debating one of

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Speaker 3: Like, what are you doing, dude? Like that's super weird.

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Speaker 3: On Newsom's behalf like the fact that you do it right, So,

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Speaker 3: but the way that he gets away with.

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Speaker 2: It is this discussion of oh or the the implication is.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's you know, it's about the blue state model.

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Speaker 2: And sure, twenty twenty eight, I'm thinking about it, guys,

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Speaker 2: but I'm all on team Biden. Okay, We've talked about

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Speaker 2: the health issues. There's also the possibility that and I

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Speaker 2: can be entirely discounted by the Democrats right now. You know,

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Speaker 2: I would give it ten to one odds. But there

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Speaker 2: is this possibility that Biden gets a real problem from

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Speaker 2: an electoral perspective, meaning even the Democrat apparatus itself says,

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Speaker 2: now again, I don't think this will happen. I think

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Speaker 2: Biden will be the nominee, but nobody knows. We talked

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Speaker 2: about the health issue. They've got to be aware of that.

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Speaker 2: That means Kamala could ascend before the end of Biden's

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Speaker 2: first term. There's a possibility that Kamala Harris would have

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Speaker 2: to ascend. We think it's unlikely, and you know, we

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Speaker 2: wish everyone in good health and long lives and all

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Speaker 2: the rest of it. But on this email thing, you know,

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Speaker 2: the pressure here is building a little bit. And this

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Speaker 2: is where the National Archives says it has fifty four

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Speaker 2: hundred Biden emails in which the president could have used

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Speaker 2: potentially used fake names to forward government information and to

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Speaker 2: talk about business with his son Hunter.

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Speaker 1: That is the Daily Mail headline. The emails are connected to.

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Speaker 2: The aliases Robin Ware, Robert Peters, Jrbware, all pseudonyms that

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Speaker 2: eighty year old Biden was known to use while serving. Now,

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Speaker 2: the use of pseudonyms itself is not you know, because

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Speaker 2: starting to say Republicans are starting to demand more transparency

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Speaker 1: We would have called it in the CIA.

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Speaker 2: Was so good that when he was writing personal emails

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Speaker 2: Hunter wasn't emailing him, Hey Dad, I need another two

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Speaker 2: million because I'm an idiot. But they say, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think that there could be something in here. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it'll ever be enough that Democrats abandoned Biden,

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Speaker 2: but I do think this is a it is a

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Speaker 2: risk factor that has entered into all of this. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I got so much on this Biden thing, So let's

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Speaker 2: just think about it in this big picture idea.

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Speaker 3: I know you said Buck that you think that there

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Speaker 3: the fact that Trump is seventy eight versus eighty two

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Speaker 3: takes age off the table.

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Speaker 1: I actually kind of revise that a little bit. It

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Speaker 1: it blunts it as an issue, It doesn't take it.

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Speaker 2: I agree, okay, because Trump is obviously you know more

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Speaker 2: with it than everything else. But I mean, Clay, if

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Speaker 2: you had if you had George W. Bush, if you

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Speaker 2: had Barack Obama, if you admit Romney, no go on

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Speaker 2: the list of candidates that kind of a candidate age wise.

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about who they are as people against

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden. It's a big problem here. This is something

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Speaker 2: interesting from that I was going to hit. This is

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Speaker 2: an AP poll. What words come to mind when you

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Speaker 2: think of Joe Biden or Donald Trump? Old, outdated, aging, elderly.

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Speaker 2: Twenty six percent of people say that comes to mind

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Speaker 2: for Joe Biden, slow, confused, bumbling is another fifteen percent.

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Speaker 3: All right, so forty one as those are not good adjectives, right,

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Speaker 3: Here's what's interesting, same thing for Trump. Twenty six percent

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton voices of Sanity and Insane World.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: I'm not making this up.

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Speaker 3: I want to give everybody who's running for president an

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Speaker 3: Mike Pence's team got back to us. They said, he's

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Speaker 2: So can I just ask? And I Clay, you gotta

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Speaker 3: I've never actually faked. But can you imagine saying we're

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Speaker 3: said Mike Pence hates Clay. He refuses to come back

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Speaker 2: I can't believe you've you've never played the bad receipt Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know.

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Speaker 3: I don't The thing is, I don't like talking on

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Speaker 3: They don't want to come on the biggest radio show

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Speaker 1: Is that nobody on.

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Speaker 2: His staff has I guess they're all with a poor

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Speaker 4: I have been telling you all along, everybody that this

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Speaker 1: The whole thing, the whole field shaken up by one event.

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Speaker 1: It is bridging news.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is any big shock.

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Speaker 2: He put out a statement on this running for president

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Speaker 1: So he is out. I would argue that a Republican

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Speaker 2: Ten percent knew this guy was, knew that he not

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Speaker 2: Wow, when he can't even call in because of his

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing, one thing, Clay you're giving him credit

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Speaker 3: Who should drop out, I believe right now, if you

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Speaker 3: look at Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada and

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Speaker 3: say those are the first four primary or caucas states,

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Speaker 3: we know Trump is the big favorite. He could win

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Speaker 3: one of those states, could win all four, could not

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Speaker 3: be close. DeSantis could whether you like him or not.

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Speaker 3: Chris Christy is pulling it like second overall in New Hampshire,

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Speaker 3: and then NICKI Haley and Tim Scott could clearly win

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Speaker 3: South Carolina. The vague like there should be right now

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Speaker 3: six candidates running for president, everybody else should drop out,

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Speaker 3: that it should be down to six right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's never how it works as we know there.

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Speaker 3: But I get like everybody's gonna make fun of Suarez

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Speaker 3: for dropping out. It actually would have been easier for

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Speaker 3: him to just stay in. Nobody notices Clay and then

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Speaker 3: he quietly drops out, like in you know, February or something.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was madness for him to run. From day one.

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Speaker 2: There were there was no constituency. There was a You

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Speaker 2: have to remember people think, oh Miami, I live in Miami.

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Speaker 2: Miami is a major city. The Miami Dade County, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, official has far more authority the Miami mayor.

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Speaker 1: Specifically, it is not really that big of a job.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's not It's not the mayor of South Bend,

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Speaker 2: Indiana like Mayor Pete. Lots of love to South Bend,

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Speaker 2: but I'm just saying it's not a big city. And

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Speaker 2: Mayor Pete was the mayor there and then ran for president.

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Speaker 2: But Suarez was in no no serious position to run

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Speaker 2: for the prevental.

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Speaker 1: I live with Clay. You know, he's he's he's team

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Speaker 1: Suarez here. You know, he's I'm just.

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Speaker 2: Calling it handsome man. He's very smooth when you talk

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Speaker 2: to him. He's very very slick on camera.

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Speaker 3: It's to me like running for president should be like dating.

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Speaker 3: If your goal is to actually get married, as soon

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Speaker 3: as you know that you're not going If your goal

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Speaker 3: is to marry, right, If your goal is just to

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Speaker 3: have somebody fun to hang out with and everything else,

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Speaker 3: and as long as both parties got know.

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Speaker 1: It, fine.

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Speaker 3: But if your goal is to get married and maybe

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Speaker 3: one day have kids, as soon as you are dating

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Speaker 3: someone and you know I'm not going to marry this person,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to have kids, there is no future.

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Speaker 3: I think you should break up to me. Running for

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Speaker 3: president should be the same thing. As soon as you

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Speaker 3: know there is no iota of a chance that I

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Speaker 3: could be elected president, you should drop out of the presidentially.

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Speaker 2: I think most people who run for president, it's almost

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Speaker 2: impossible for them until until the numbers all start coming

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Speaker 2: in and the votes are cast for them to think

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Speaker 2: in those terms, because for them to run in the

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Speaker 2: first place, in a lot of these cases, not all

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Speaker 2: of them is rooted in a almost like a narcissistic delusion.

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Speaker 1: And just to.

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Speaker 2: Be fair, I mean, I think it's I'm not a psychiatrist,

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Speaker 2: but I think it's true. And I would also say

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Speaker 2: there's something in the background here of all the different

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Speaker 2: candidates who are running that they won't talk about, but

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Speaker 2: I do. I can tell you this, they do think

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Speaker 2: about it. And that is what if Trump does get

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Speaker 2: locked up, I mean actually locked up in prison. Now,

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Speaker 2: I think it's not going to happen, but I don't

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Speaker 2: know what if Trump does get taken off the ballot

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Speaker 2: or you know, what if some of these these deep

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Speaker 2: state machinations, for some in some way take Trump truly

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Speaker 2: off the chessboard. They got to be looking at his

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Speaker 2: fifty percent, meaning he's not even like a viable candidate

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Speaker 2: anymore in some way. Again we're talking about you know,

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Speaker 2: this is like lightning strike out of nowhere stuff, But

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Speaker 2: fifty percent of the votes would be up for grab overnight.

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Speaker 2: So I think in their minds, given what Trump.

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Speaker 3: Faces here, you mean actually taken off the ballot, yes,

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Speaker 3: because were taken out of you know, taken out of

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Speaker 3: content Trump, you know, because the criminal prosecution's over look

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Speaker 3: this is you could say.

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Speaker 1: Not even one hundred mabe, it's one in a million.

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Speaker 2: But I think in the back of their minds they think,

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe maybe Trump doesn't even really get all

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Speaker 2: the way through the primary and things change. I believe

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Speaker 2: that the other candidates think that's a possibility.

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Speaker 1: I think it could be true.

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Speaker 3: But do you agree with me there's only six candidates

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Speaker 3: that have a chance now, Well the.

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Speaker 1: Numbers show that, yeah, of course.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I'm mean I think generous in saying they're six.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think you could argue five. I think

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Speaker 3: you could argue four, like what is willhard? And you know,

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Speaker 3: Larry Elder has our job. But if you can't get

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Speaker 3: on the stage in August, you're not going to get

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Speaker 3: on the stage September. I think we need to winnoh

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Speaker 3: the field because I would actually like for like I

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Speaker 3: felt bad for Tim Scott. He basically vanished in the

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Speaker 3: August debate, did it? I mean the debate last week.

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Speaker 3: Partly that's because there's too many people on the stage,

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Speaker 3: Like you mean, I four or five us.

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Speaker 1: Even when I watched this back in Scotland's which was amazing.

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Speaker 2: Uh, even when I watched back the debate, I remember

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Speaker 2: thinking to myself, you know, you look at these guys

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Speaker 2: and gals and and what is the first thing that

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Speaker 2: comes to mind? You know, what is the what is

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Speaker 2: like the tagline? What's the you know they always yeah,

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Speaker 2: they'll do like a one liner for a movie like

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Speaker 2: the original for Ghostbusters was last was like space Janitors

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Speaker 2: fighting ghosts or something.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: You look at this guys with trumpets like ultimate outsider

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Speaker 2: fighting the deep state, making America great again. Right.

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Speaker 1: You look at the veg it's like super smart.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, biotech guy who is going to take

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Speaker 2: this sort of new new age almost like a neo

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Speaker 2: Trumpian approaching.

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Speaker 1: Okay whatever.

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Speaker 2: Nikki Haley, you know, raytheon stock needs some help. She

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Speaker 2: was like, anyway, point being that's unfair, that's unfair. That

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Speaker 2: was actually a vague.

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Speaker 1: Line, as you all know.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you look at these different candidates and

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Speaker 2: if you don't have a what do they stand for?

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Speaker 1: Right away?

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Speaker 2: I think it's very hard for them to mobilize any

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Speaker 2: kind of a movement. And I think that people see

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Speaker 2: Tim Scott, Senator Scott, and they think an honorable, good

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Speaker 2: guy who's doing good things for the country that he

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Speaker 2: loves and has an inspiring story. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: he thinks.

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Speaker 1: He's good.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what he's trying to do in the

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Speaker 2: role that That was the takeaway that I had from

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Speaker 2: the debate, like what how is he different from the

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Speaker 2: other candidates in terms of the ideas that he would pursue.

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Speaker 2: And then you got to like Doug. I mean, I've

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Speaker 2: asked her, what does Doug Bergham stand for?

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Speaker 1: Clay? I mean, there you go the silence. No, no,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and I think you're hitting.

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Speaker 3: I wrote a lot in American Playbook about this because

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Speaker 3: when I studied creative writing, I got a master's degree

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Speaker 3: in creative writing. I'm not only a nerd, I'm also

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Speaker 3: evidently a struggling artiste or something. So you can attack

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Speaker 3: me in many different directions. I'm the only person I

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Speaker 3: know that has that degree. I'm just gonna say that's

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Speaker 3: a rare one. I don't know anyone. I've got a jd.

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Speaker 3: I'm the law degree, and then I've got a Master's

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Speaker 3: of Fine Arts in creative writing. So there is a

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Speaker 3: world out there where I could have been a creative

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Speaker 3: writing professor. But one of the things you learn, I

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Speaker 3: try to demystify writing, Buck, because you're writing a book

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Speaker 3: right now. I feel like a lot of people who

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Speaker 3: are writers. They want to make writing seem more complicated

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Speaker 3: than it is. And I write this in the book,

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Speaker 3: but you ever hear of a plumber having plumber block,

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Speaker 3: Like if you called the plumber and he came over

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Speaker 3: to your house and you're like, man, I got a

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Speaker 3: plumber all about block fixing the plumber blocks, right. But

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Speaker 3: if the plumber got in and he's like, sorry, man,

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Speaker 3: I'm just all.

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Speaker 1: In my head right now.

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Speaker 3: Or you called an electrician and they got there and

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Speaker 3: they're like, hey, can you like get the electricity back

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Speaker 3: on here? And the electrician was like, man, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 3: I just got a lot of really complicated thoughts in

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Speaker 3: my head right now. Now, writers like try to make

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Speaker 3: writing look more complicated than it is. Every story that's

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Speaker 3: truly great, I believe this can be broken down to

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Speaker 3: a sentence. And every political campaign that wins, ultimately the

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Speaker 3: branding comes down to a sentence. And we do this,

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Speaker 3: and I'm stunned by the number of guys and gals

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Speaker 3: who run for elective office. And to your point, Buck,

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Speaker 3: they're just kind of a jumble of ideas that don't

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Speaker 3: distill or coagulate into anything. And again, we're down to six.

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Speaker 3: There should be six people running for president of the

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Speaker 3: United States right now. Everybody else should should drop out.

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Speaker 3: Who's not in that six in the Republican side?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think the biggest problem in the six

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Speaker 2: that the most obvious issue that I would see is

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Speaker 2: with someone like with the veig. If Trump is great

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Speaker 2: at everything and did a great job and already had

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Speaker 2: the job for four years, why are you running? I

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Speaker 2: asked him that exact question last week, and he said

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Speaker 2: he says he wants Trump to be his mentor. Trump

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Speaker 2: doesn't want to be his mentor. I got news from it.

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Speaker 2: I guess, not really, but that's a dodger. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: his answer. I know I heard the answer. You know,

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Speaker 2: Mike ten schmud might be able to call in if

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Speaker 1: My friends, it's a fact. For the whole week, he

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Speaker 1: can't even make a cell phone call to his team.

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Speaker 3: of your calls here. Let's go ahead take some of

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Speaker 3: play Vivek and Al Sharpton, which I think is fun.

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Speaker 3: But maybe we'll say that next hour. We're gonna hold

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Speaker 3: you through, folks. You gotta stay with us to that

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Speaker 3: third hour. So we got dueling perspectives in Arizona. One person,

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Speaker 3: one woman agrees with me, the other one does not.

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Speaker 3: We'll start with the disagreeer, Meghan and Gilbert Arizona.

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 5: Hey, Clay, I think I think I heard you say

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Speaker 5: that DeSantis promotion of a six week abortion was I

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Speaker 5: think you said too close. Do you mean that's to

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Speaker 5: pro life?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think for a national election, I think that being

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Speaker 3: in favor of a six week abortion ban would get

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Speaker 3: you beaten.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, I'm a huge fan of you and Buck.

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Speaker 5: But Clay, I think you're wrong on this.

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Speaker 1: I really certain.

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Speaker 3: Look, there many things every day that I am wrong going.

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Speaker 3: So you don't I encourage everybody out there. You don't

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Speaker 3: have to agree with me on anything. So explain you

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Speaker 3: think I'm wrong?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think that's like, really strong pro life commitments

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Speaker 5: have been what historically has gotten Republicans elected. Moderate Republicans, like,

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Speaker 5: let's say, who are moderately pro life, they always lose.

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Speaker 5: Like I think of McCain and I'm an Arizona. I

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Speaker 5: think of McCain, I think of Dole. In those way

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Speaker 5: back you guys were probably too young even if remember that, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean I was, I remember those.

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Speaker 3: Let me just say this, Megan, when you mentioned, sorry

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Speaker 3: to cut you off, but when you mentioned McCain. He

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Speaker 3: ran against Obama two thousand and eight, which is probably

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Speaker 3: the best campaign anybody has run, whether you like it

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Speaker 3: or not, in the twenty first century so far. And

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Speaker 3: Dole ran against Clinton ninety six as the incumbent, like

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Speaker 3: in other world.

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Speaker 2: Twenty sixteens better than Obama two thousand and eight. But

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Speaker 2: keep going in terms of the landslide win. So, Meghan,

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Speaker 2: if you're right, and look, I'm well open.

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Speaker 3: To the idea that I'm wrong about everything, because I've

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Speaker 3: been married nineteen years. I hear that I'm wrong about

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Speaker 3: everything all the time. Right, So, Megan, just why would DeSantis'

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Speaker 3: six week abortion ban have not propelled him stronger in

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Speaker 3: the Republican primary because Trump clearly wouldn't support a six

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Speaker 3: week abortion ban, Like, why do you think it hasn't resonated?

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Speaker 3: Then with the Republican electorate, which is more pro life

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Speaker 3: than the larger national electorate.

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Speaker 5: Would be Well, this is where you know things better

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Speaker 5: than I do. You have a bigger picture. I can

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Speaker 5: just go historically and see as I look in past elections.

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Speaker 5: When it comes to the bottom line, abortion is the

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Speaker 5: Democrat's sacred cow. Let them have it. That I think

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Speaker 5: when we try to get wishy washy with it to

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Speaker 5: help our side, it doesn't work. So I think there's

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Speaker 5: a truth to be realized that there are many conservatives

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Speaker 5: honestly who will not support someone who pretends to be

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Speaker 5: conservative and then tries to get wishy washy on abortion.

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Speaker 5: I just have not seen it work in interesting argument.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take another call. Thank you for listening, Megan.

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Speaker 3: So my position would be it's not wishy washy to

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Speaker 3: say somewhere in the first trimester, we can figure out

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Speaker 3: where or whatever week you want to establish, there is

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Speaker 3: a line that should be drawn figuring out where that

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Speaker 3: is a lot of Republicans disagree. Where we're united is

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Speaker 3: nine month abortion is wrong, and really third trimester abortion

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Speaker 3: is wrong.

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Speaker 2: And then for the first five months, which I think

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Speaker 2: is surprising to people. So there's some states where it's

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Speaker 2: way more permissive than you would anticipate, but you.

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Speaker 1: Would agree buck that.

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Speaker 3: Where we're all united listening right now, I think is

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Speaker 3: third trimester abortions is should not be allowed. And that's

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Speaker 3: where you focus on how radical the Democrat abortion policy is.

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Speaker 1: Well, second and third for sure, Third one.

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Speaker 3: Hundred billion percent and every Democrats in favor of it.

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Speaker 1: We're coming up