1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: Well, nowhere else i'd rather be, and talking to no 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 2: one else would I rather as well. The NFL Draft 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: is now in the rear view. The Lakers season is 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 2: about to be as well. I'm sorry I'm. 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 3: Jumping to that. Good listen exactly just just we're exactly 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: where I thought we'd be. 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, we are. Okay. Well, the last thing, well, 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 4: we'll wait. Okay, since you want to just start off 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 4: with violence, okay, since you want to you don't want 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 4: to ease into violence, you want to start off with. 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 3: Violence for sweep, I didn't say, sweet, what. 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 4: I said to you. The last thing I said to 14 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 4: you last Sunday was gosh, I hope in seven days 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 4: we're not in here and the Lakers are out of 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 4: the playoffs. 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: And he was like, could be, could be? Could be? Well, 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: we're not. I will where not. 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: I remember saying there would actually be no four game 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: series in the West. However, I wonder if you're ready 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: to have a conversation that you should be ready to have. 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: And it's not even about this series, and we'll get 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: to it in a second, but I actually I'm so 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: excited to talk to you about the NFL draft right 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: as it comes to a close, because there were some 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: questions that popped up into my mind this week, and 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: I really love the perspective of someone who's been through 28 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: this process. We'll get to all of it. Don't you 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: worry about that at all. 30 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: I know you're not. 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If you hear about a fight 38 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: at high school, you're thinking, good lord, I mean. 39 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: These kids, these kids these days. 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: If they call and it's your kid in the fight, 41 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: you immediately start thinking about, well, what did the other 42 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: kid do? And how come the staff there at school 43 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: wasn't there to help out. 44 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: That's natural. 45 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: I get it, different rules for different people, different players. 46 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: But let's talk for a second about what the Atlanta 47 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: Falcons did in this draft a few nights ago, because 48 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: my question and I don't want the obvious answer. I 49 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: know quarterbacks are different, but ephraim the entire draft, literally 50 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: the point of its existence is for NFL teams to 51 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: go in there, find all the good college players and 52 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: get ready, at least get ready to replace the players 53 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: they can't have, or at minimum create competition. 54 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: Nobody bats an eye. 55 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: If you've got good receivers and you draft a receiver, 56 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: people are like, we need more good receivers. If you've 57 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: got a good offensive line, you draft to tackle, well, 58 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: you know what, lots of injuries there got to get ready. 59 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: Can never have too many big guys. You'd say that 60 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: about every position. For some reason. 61 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: If you draft a quarterback when you've already got a 62 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: highly paid. 63 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: One, it's like offensive. 64 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: We immediately run to the highly paid quarterback and go, 65 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: are you okay? 66 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: Are you mentally stable enough to handle? 67 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: I know we're paying you one hundred million dollars, but 68 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: are you okay? 69 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: Because this team just offended you. 70 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: They just picked someone else who also plays your position. 71 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: The horror, Why do we do that only with quarterbacks? 72 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: We would never do that with anyone else. Well, because 73 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: we make quarterbacks more than just NFL players. We've designed 74 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: the league and the rules around quarterback play. We only 75 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: give the MVP to quarterbacks, although it's not an offensive 76 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: award necessarily, so it's no longer the best player in 77 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: the league. It's the best quarterback in the league. Systematically, 78 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: throughout the years, we've made the quarterback more important than 79 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: any other position. Now, granted, the quarterback is the most 80 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: important player on the position. I mean on a team, 81 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: of course, because so much of your cap money goes 82 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: to that player. Now, the thing had been if you 83 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: can get a young quarterback on a rookie deal, then 84 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: you can build out a roster until you got to 85 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: pay them over the moon. So that's what the formula 86 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: is now. Look at teams like Atlanta who went on 87 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: and drafted a quarterback and Michael Pennix after giving Kirk 88 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: Cousins all that guaranteed money. The layman would be like, 89 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: oh my god, this is crazy. I hate Kirk Cousins. 90 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 2: This is the worst thing ever. 91 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 4: This is the perfect thing, not only for the Atlanta Falcons, 92 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: but for Michael Pennix Junior. 93 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 3: The thing I don't like. 94 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 4: About quarterbacks going early in the first round is what 95 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 4: we saw happening to Bryce Young last year. What we 96 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 4: saw happen to any of the Bears quarterback, Well, that's 97 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 4: just a tradition, right. 98 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: So. 99 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 4: We feel like, Okay, they took a quarterback. It's over, right, 100 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: Like I really feel sorry for Drake May. I feel 101 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 4: bad for him because he's gonna be he's gonna step 102 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 4: into a situation where he's going to be asked a 103 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: lot a lot of him and they may not be 104 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 4: ready for that. 105 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 3: Right. 106 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: I think JJ McCarthy is also in a great situation. 107 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 4: Number one of the team around him is so much 108 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 4: better than anybody's team in the top nine in terms 109 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 4: of a team who drafted a quarterback. So I I 110 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 4: it's it's it's gotten into a situation to where teams 111 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 4: are really realizing, I can get this guy, and if 112 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 4: he does it a year, two years, it's okay, We're 113 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 4: not going to answer any questions about why they aren't 114 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 4: playing anything like that. Look at what Green Bay did 115 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 4: and look how it worked out for there you go. 116 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 4: So I think teams are now not filling the pressure 117 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 4: of drafting a guy in the top ten and putting 118 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 4: him in immediately unless you're in a situation like a 119 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams, a Jayden Daniels, who I think could benefit 120 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 4: from a year of not playing at all. 121 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: Look, I think there are situations where there's no other 122 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: way to do it, and I get it. There have 123 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: been those situations that have been successful, though they do 124 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: take a minute and every player is kind of on 125 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: their own in terms of what you do better to 126 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: sit for a second, would you do better to play 127 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: right away? 128 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: Learn on the job. 129 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: Look at the two names we bring up, even though 130 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: this isn't right because one of them is way better 131 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: and more successful than the other. But the first two 132 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: names we always bring up are Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. 133 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: Josh Allen is thrown in right away, It doesn't look 134 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: very good for a year, then looks very mediocre for 135 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: a year, then and popped. Mahomes sits for a year, 136 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: then year two bang ready to go right away. And 137 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: I do think that we've lost that in the NFL 138 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: and it would be good in certain situations to get 139 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: back to that. You mentioned the team. Look, there's one 140 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: team that I in the NFL. If you go back 141 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: now about fifteen to twenty years, who's the one NFL 142 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: team that has not had a massive drop off rebuild scenario? 143 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: You said twenty teen, one team twenty years. 144 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: About fifteen twenty years now. They've never gone through a 145 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 2: huge rebuild. 146 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: One team. 147 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 4: Let me see, who would that be outside of what 148 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: the Patriot's been doing the last two years. We're counting those, right. 149 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's put it this way. They've transitioned 150 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: on the fly without a rebuild. It's one team, SA 151 00:08:59,040 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers. 152 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're rightbe Packers right? 153 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: And why because their quarterbacks sit there and stare at 154 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: football for two or three years before you ask them 155 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: to do anything, and then when they get in there 156 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: they're adults now. Their superstar quarterbacks when you draft someone 157 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: always get mad. 158 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 3: And I guess I'd respond to that by saying, so 159 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: what so what? 160 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: So? 161 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: What? 162 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 5: Why? 163 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: Why are we so worried about the mental health of 164 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: dudes who are literally the faces of the league. Kirk 165 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: Cousins is worried. I remember an interview this is going 166 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: back now, six seven, eight years ago, Chargers had the 167 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: seventh overall pick. 168 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 3: Philip Rivers was asked, how would you feel if the. 169 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: Chargers took a QB openly said, well, I wouldn't like that. 170 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: I wouldn't like that at all. Yeah, criticize for it 171 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: a little bit. I understand where he's coming from. He's like, 172 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: that's the seventh pick in the draft. I want someone 173 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: who can help me. However, teams are in charge of 174 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: building themselves, and that's for this year, that's for next year, 175 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: it's for the year beyond. There's all kinds of reasons 176 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: to do it in thirty five year old plus qbs 177 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: also get hurt a lot. I mean, the biggest left 178 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: out story in this whole thing is that Kirk Cousins 179 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: is in his mid thirties and coming off of an 180 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: achilles tear. I'd want to bolster my quarterback room. 181 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 4: Too, Yeah, because now the pressure's not on him. I 182 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 4: think the main thing is if Kurt is healthy and 183 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 4: ready to go in training camp. I think the best 184 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 4: thing that Atlanta could do would go win some games 185 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: with Kirk Cousins, build up a winning culture. So when 186 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 4: Michael Pennix Junior steps into it and when you call 187 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 4: upon him to carry on that winning culture, it's not 188 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 4: like pushing a boulder up a hill, right that you 189 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 4: have to in that division. With Kirk Cousins, you can 190 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 4: win the division absolutely, and that should. 191 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: Be your goal. 192 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 4: Michael Pennix Junior should be thrilled to be in the 193 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 4: NFL after being drafted that high, after his storied two MCLs. 194 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 4: I mean, acl excuse me, shoulder surgery, after all of 195 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 4: those things. To still be drafted in the top ten 196 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 4: in the NFL as a quarterback, I mean, that's a blessing. 197 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 4: Now to go to a team where he may not 198 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 4: be called upon to do it now is also a blessing. 199 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 4: So don't look at it, and I hope these young 200 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 4: players aren't looking at it like, man, I want my chance. 201 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 4: Hey man, this is not You're not going against Arizona State. 202 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 4: You're not going against you know, as good as Utah's defense. 203 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 4: Where you're not going against Utah's defense. You're not going 204 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 4: against Arizona. You're going against the Saints, Tampa Bay, right 205 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: at Carolina, everybody got Pro bowlers. So not having that 206 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 4: pressure put on him when I don't think he's ready 207 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 4: for the pressure. Now, some quarterbacks come in ready. I 208 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 4: think Caleb Williams, especially because of what the Bears have done. 209 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: The one knock on the Bears is we've continued to 210 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 4: say they haven't built out their roster. Well we're seeing 211 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 4: them do that starting to Now, Yeah, they're getting the 212 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 4: message that hey, we can't just draft a guy and 213 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 4: expect him to write the whole ship. We got to 214 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 4: fix the rooms on the ship. And I think that's 215 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: what they're doing. They did it in free agency doing it. 216 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 4: They're addressing those needs in the draft and I think 217 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 4: they'll I think they'll be there on the road to 218 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 4: being successful. 219 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: I'm with you when you say that this is actually 220 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: good for Penix too. I agree with you. Let's get 221 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: into that a little bit more. Coming up next. 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I mean, 246 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm mindful of the quarterback draft three years 247 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: ago and I think we've touched on this a time 248 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: or two. 249 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: This was an epic quarterback draft. 250 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: Five qbs are going in the top half of the 251 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: first round. Oh my goodness, which one do you want? 252 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: Can't wait to see it all play out. Trevor Lawrence 253 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: is pretty good. I think pretty good. 254 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Trevor Lawrence is he can play? Yeah, yeah, it's 255 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: a good player. 256 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: Zach Wilson dumped Trey Lance dumped, Justin Fields dumped, Mac 257 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: Jones dumped And so what's that didn't they didn't even 258 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: what's thatpp? 259 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 4: That's five right, that's that's. 260 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 2: More out of the five are no longer they have 261 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: been They have been dumped for low round draft capital 262 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: or or less. 263 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: And uh. 264 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: And yes, each of them had a little bit of 265 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: a different experience a ramp up. 266 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: Lance is with a good team. 267 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: The others are with a you know, Fields and Wilson 268 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: are with a bad team. Mac Jones is with an 269 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: OK team. Mac had about offensive coordinator, Fields had no weapons. 270 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: Lance got hurt, the garoppolo complexity, Uh, Zach Wilson, Oh, 271 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: the Jets are stop. 272 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 4: Imagine if none of those young men had to play 273 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 4: right away, That's what I'm getting at. Imagine them still 274 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: being on their current or their their their drafted team 275 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 4: and now stepping into a role of pushing the team better. 276 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 4: Imagine how much better they'd be if Trey Lance didn't 277 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 4: have to come in and play and get hurt and 278 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 4: do all of those things. I mean, just in general, 279 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 4: he had the least amount of experience out of anybody 280 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 4: in the whole draft at their respect to position. I mean, essentially, 281 00:16:54,080 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 4: played a year double A football and so it's one 282 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 4: of those situations where teams heap the pressures of a 283 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 4: franchise on an individual player. We don't talk about the 284 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 4: running back or the receiver or the defensive end. That like, 285 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 4: we won't be Melik Neighbors. The Giants, won't hinge on 286 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 4: Melik Neighbors. The Arizona Cardinals if they're not successful, we 287 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 4: won't be talking about Marvin Harrison Junior. Right, But if 288 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 4: the Bears are trash again, it's Caleb Williams, if the Commanders, 289 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 4: it's Jaden Daniels. The Patriots they can't still get it together. 290 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 4: Oh god, Drake maybe got another Matt Jones here. That'll 291 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 4: be the narrative at the end of the sea. 292 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt. And the whole thing. 293 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 2: I think that the root of it is impatience. I mean, 294 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 2: listen to what just happened during our commercial break. There 295 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 2: there's Dan and the dan Nettes talking about the Falcons 296 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: and what are they essentially saying? 297 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 3: I want to see Pennix now too bad? 298 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 4: Why too bad? 299 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 3: You don't get to you know what I mean? 300 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: Like the team The bad teams are the ones who 301 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 2: get dictated by what's going on in the public. 302 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 3: Those are the bad teams. 303 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: They maneuver because of public pressure or what the fans think, 304 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: or or fire the coach or all of that stuff. 305 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: The good ones, I think are the ones. This is 306 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 2: one of the reasons the draft is really fun on 307 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 2: this stuff. The good ones are the ones who are 308 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: willing to be like, yeah, I know you think he's 309 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: a third rounder. We took him in the first because 310 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 2: we think you're wrong and we're running the show. And 311 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: sometimes they're right, sometimes they're right. Don't get me started 312 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: on draft grades now, No, no, no, don't don't. Don't 313 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: you get me started on every single platform out there, 314 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: who's decided today who did well and who didn't do well. 315 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 2: It should be thirty two consecutive sentences that say the 316 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: same thing, we don't know yet, there's your draft grades. 317 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: I don't care if you think somebody was a reach 318 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: or if somebody slipped, Like, why do we show up 319 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: again every year to think. 320 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 3: That we know, we don't know, we don't know. 321 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: The kids gotta fit, the kids gotta get the head 322 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: screwed on straight. 323 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 3: The kids gotta handle the money. The kids got to 324 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 3: handle the family. 325 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: The fame, the pressure, and I don't care if he 326 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: ran a four to four or not. I don't know 327 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: any of those things until way later. No, I think 328 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: it's a blessing for Michael Pennix. 329 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: I reck, I think it's brilliant. 330 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 4: But the way we should be talking about the draft, 331 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 4: like you say, the Bears, right, what the Bears did 332 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 4: is they used their first three picks on offense. They 333 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 4: got their quarterback, they got a real deal receiver, and 334 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 4: they got an offensive lineman, an offensive tackle. That's how 335 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 4: you address a need. That's what they did offensively through 336 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 4: the draft. First three picks. They addressed the offensive side 337 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 4: of the ball. How those things will pan. 338 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 3: Out, we'll see. 339 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 4: But did they address the need? Of course they did 340 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 4: so boom. Okay, they didn't reach. They didn't draft someone. 341 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 4: You know who, maybe Taylor Williams's gonna come in and 342 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 4: play Roma Doomsday. He's a stud. Everything you think that 343 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 4: kid can play, I agree with you. 344 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 3: He can play like. 345 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 4: Bas just based on just his film right like he Okay, 346 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 4: he can play. 347 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: Yep, he can play. So I just know if he 348 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 3: can play for the Bears. 349 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 4: But he can play, well, hey, look he's there. 350 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 3: Now. 351 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 4: They got a quarterback with talent. They got a top 352 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: ten receiver, I mean I would have him top two 353 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 4: in the entire draft. 354 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: And another top twenty receiver. I know he's starting to 355 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: get old. No, there's no doubt. 356 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 4: That Keenan Allen is gonna come in as a perfect 357 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 4: combination for Rome and Keenan. So what we'll say about 358 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 4: the Bears is they truly addressed a need to make 359 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 4: their roster, especially offensively competitive, and I'm okay with that. 360 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 4: I'm excited about that. We saw the Jets do it 361 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,719 Speaker 4: two years in a row. Outside of the quarterback position. 362 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 4: They went out and they got competitive. We just saw 363 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 4: the Houston Texans do it last year, right They they 364 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 4: went out and drafted at at need and those those 365 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 4: two players did They drafted first with their first two 366 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 4: picks in the in the in the in the first round. 367 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 4: Won the award that they could win at the end 368 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 4: of the year, and that's Offensive Defensive Rookie and Offensive 369 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 4: Rookie and Defensive Rookie of the Year. Did they win 370 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 4: the draft, Well, of course they did. Okay, the top 371 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 4: two picks one of the most two prestigious awards for rookies. 372 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 4: So yeah, they won the draft. We be saying this 373 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 4: about the Bears. Will they have the rookie of the year, 374 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 4: offensive rookie of the year. Will both of those guys 375 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 4: be Pro bowlers? Are all pro? 376 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: We'll see. 377 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 4: But they did address the need with the talent that 378 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 4: was available. 379 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 3: And I'm I'm like that. 380 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 4: And speaking of talent, and we got a guy who 381 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 4: have you ever been in a draft when every draft 382 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 4: pick is the first pick in the draft? That's our guy, 383 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 4: Steven d the Seger. 384 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 7: Why, thank you very much, and good evening, gentlemen. I 385 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 7: assume you saw a little of that Clippers game. Wow, 386 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 7: what happened there? Clippers were at Dallas and leading the 387 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 7: MAVs fifty five to twenty four in the first half, 388 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 7: blew the entire lead and still won the playoff game 389 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 7: on the road, even though Kawhi Leonard was out with 390 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 7: knee inflammation. Won sixteen to one to eleven clips the final. 391 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 7: They're tied in the first game series against the Mavericks 392 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 7: at two games apiece. Paul George had twenty six points 393 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 7: in the first half, thirty three for the game. James 394 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 7: Harden with thirty three and some clutch buckets in the 395 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 7: NBA in the play by play era the last twenty 396 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 7: five plus years. They refer to that because instead of 397 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 7: a final stat sheet, they actually as the players are 398 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 7: going along list, this guy got to rebound, this guy 399 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 7: got to steal. So in the play by play era, 400 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 7: still the only team to rally from being down at 401 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 7: least thirty to win a playoff game. Ironically, the Clippers 402 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 7: did so five years ago against Golden State. Here today, 403 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 7: the Clippers were leading by thirty one, blew that lead 404 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 7: and still get the W. And now, according to Statzinc, 405 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 7: the Dallas Mavericks become the first team ever to lose 406 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 7: an NBA playoff game in regulation, even though one of 407 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 7: their players had forty points and another had a triple double. 408 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 7: Kyrie Irving and Luka Donsich And there were a lot 409 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 7: of Nick fans in Philadelphia today. 410 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 4: I thought they were at home Philadelphia. 411 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 7: Wow, that was that was notable. That really came through 412 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 7: the screen. And the Knicks were winners ninety seven ninety 413 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 7: two at Philly to take a three games to one 414 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 7: lead in that first round series. Jalen Brunson forty seven 415 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 7: points and tennis sist real deal, Yeah, it's just silly. 416 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 7: How good he has been on a consistent basis, not 417 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 7: just in this series, I mean for a while now, 418 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 7: and he's back in Philly having a game like that today. Meanwhile, 419 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 7: at Indiana, it's now Pacers seventy six sixty six over 420 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 7: Milwaukee just a couple minutes into the third quarter. The 421 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 7: Bucks were playing surprisingly well until these last couple of minutes. 422 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 7: Now they're down ten. Milwaukee is shooting fifty six percent 423 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 7: from the floor, but Janis Antennacumpo is out again with 424 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 7: a strained calf, Damian Lillard out with a strained achilles tonight, 425 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 7: and Bobby Portis got kicked out early in the game. 426 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 7: And now it's a double digit deficit. But the late 427 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 7: game in an hour will have the Minnesota timberwolvesseeds in 428 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 7: the West, up three games to none, playing at Phoenix. 429 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 7: In the NHL playoffs, Vancouver has won in overtime in 430 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 7: a comeback at Nashville four to three, Vancouver winning a 431 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 7: playoff game after being down two in the third period 432 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 7: for the first time in over twenty years. Predators conversely 433 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 7: lose a playoff game when they were up to in 434 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 7: the third period for their first time ever, and at 435 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 7: Colorado Avalanche five to one over Winnipeg, so while the 436 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 7: Canucks lead three games to one, Avalanche now up three 437 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 7: games to one in a first round series, and the 438 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 7: number one New York Rangers, currently up three games to none, 439 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 7: are leading late first period at Washington one to nothing. 440 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 7: The late game in a couple hours will be in La. 441 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 7: The Kings hosting Edmonton Oilers lead that series two games 442 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 7: to one. Denny Hamlin took the NASCAR Race at Dover, 443 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 7: his third win of the season. Kyle Larson finished second 444 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 7: in Major League Baseball sixth inning at Boston Red Sox 445 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 7: two nothing leaders against the Chicago Cubs. There was a 446 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 7: game yesterday and in Mexico City, Major League Baseball. Houston 447 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 7: and Colorado went there and Houston won again today eight 448 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 7: to two, the final from Bervaldez the winning pitcher. The 449 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 7: Twins have won seven in a row and the Angels 450 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 7: continue to slump Twins eleven to five, the final to 451 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 7: win to Pablo Lopez. Victories this afternoon for Arizona, San 452 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 7: Francisco and Philadelphia, which sent the Padres to a fourth 453 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 7: straight loss eight to six. Atlanta in ten innings, edge 454 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 7: Cleveland four to three, the Mets in eleven innings beat 455 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 7: Saint Louis four to two, and the Yankees pounded the 456 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 7: Brewers in Milwaukee fifteen to five. 457 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 3: Back to you, Steve, great stuff. Appreciate that so much. 458 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: It is Mark Worthardy from salam Live ti rack dot 459 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 2: com Studios. Love sitting here talking about the draft. Can 460 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 2: I ask you a question? So start with this, because 461 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: you went in the seventh round. 462 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 3: What was that day like for you? Where were you? 463 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 4: I literally was on my way to the movies. Well, 464 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 4: because once the seventh round hits, then you start getting 465 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 4: calls from not from teams who want you to sign 466 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 4: as a free agent. 467 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: Hey, this is perfect for you. 468 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: You have an opportunity to play wherever you need to 469 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 4: pick where you want to go. Now it's this is perfect. 470 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 4: And I was just like I just started just now. 471 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 4: I'm good click hanging on him phone. So I was like, 472 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 4: I turned the draft off and I'm on my way to. 473 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 3: The movies. My brother and. 474 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 4: I I get a phone call and I'm like, here 475 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 4: we go. 476 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 3: It's Art Shell. He's like hey from my doing. I 477 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 3: say hey. 478 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 4: He was like, well, I was just calling in for 479 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 4: me that we're getting ready to draft you. And I said, well, 480 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 4: what round is it? He was like the seventh round. 481 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 4: I said what, I said, what pick was it? And 482 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 4: he said one hundred and ninety ninth pick. And he 483 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 4: was like, you're not watching the draft. I said, now, 484 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 4: I turned that stuff off and and he was like 485 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 4: a okay, And he's like, look, I've been trying to 486 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 4: draft you for you know, since the day began. And 487 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 4: I finally saw you still there and I was like, 488 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 4: you got to bring this kid in and I said I. 489 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 4: He was like, well, how do you feel? I said, 490 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 4: I'm pissed off? He said good. He said good, he said, 491 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 4: because what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna give you 492 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 4: an opportunity to come compete, come compete for a job, 493 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 4: and show every team, including us, while they messed up 494 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 4: and not drafting you earlier. 495 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 3: Okay. 496 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 4: And I said, that's all I asked for a coach, 497 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 4: and the rest is history. So for me, my draft experience, 498 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 4: I've always looked at the draft like, well, to me, 499 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 4: it doesn't really matter because I've been on teams where 500 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 4: first round draft picks couldn't start, couldn't play, and get 501 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 4: cut yep. I've been trying. I've had teams try to 502 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 4: replace me with first round draft picks. It didn't pan out. 503 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 4: So I never look at the a draft like, oh, 504 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 4: this is this is the the work happens now. The 505 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 4: work happens now. The draft is for the accomplishment of 506 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 4: a lifelong dream to do the impossible. That's what the 507 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 4: draft is. Every person drafted in the NFL has done 508 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 4: the impossible. So now what's not Because you know, you 509 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 4: don't get a credited season just because you got drafted. 510 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 4: You don't get a credited season for being drafted. You 511 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 4: get a credited season for being in the league for 512 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 4: three years on the active roster, so that that's how 513 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 4: you get vested. You need three games per year on 514 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 4: the active roster for that year to count, and your 515 00:30:55,040 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 4: draft position that doesn't matter. And so the work really 516 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 4: starts now for these young men, it's important for them 517 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 4: to focus and realize. I've seen first round draft picks 518 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 4: wash out. 519 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 5: M h. 520 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 4: I've seen it. You get a bunch of money, but 521 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 4: that's all the money you're getting. And I've seen six 522 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 4: seventh round draft picks and free agents play over a 523 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 4: decade and have a career and bill real generational wealth 524 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 4: for themselves and their families. So my approach to the 525 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 4: draft is while I'm happy for them, they've done something amazing, 526 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 4: what are they gonna do now? What are they gonna 527 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 4: do now? 528 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 3: I tell you what? 529 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 2: Man, and watching the whole thing play out, and even 530 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: though you were in the seventh round and you were 531 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: at the movies, I bet that you can answer this 532 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: question because I, like, I just had a functional question. 533 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: You told me the phone starts ringing? What round? Fifth? Sixth, 534 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 3: sixth round? Right towards the end of the sixth round. 535 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: And this is back when it was all in one day, 536 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: two days. 537 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 4: Three rounds were on Saturday and four through seven were 538 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 4: on Sunday. 539 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: Okay, okay? 540 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: Because I always wondered why, like, and maybe you could 541 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: answer this coming up, coming up next, But I wondered why, 542 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: Like when we see the video of the kid who's 543 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 2: at the house and he's surrounded by thirty five family 544 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 2: members and the phone rings and they're all sitting there 545 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: like kind of waiting for I'm like, does the phone 546 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: ever ring and it's not a team saying that. 547 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 3: We're gonna draft you? Are there other other kinds of 548 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: phone calls? Oh? Yeah, that came in. 549 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: I would love to hear what this whole thing's like, 550 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: so yeah, let's do that. Coming up next. Mark Wellerty 551 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: from Slam Fox Sports Radio. 552 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk line up 553 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: in the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports 554 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR 555 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: to listen live. 556 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: We're live on the tyrag dot com studios. I'm fascinated 557 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 2: by stupid stuff sometimes, so so tell me. We got 558 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 2: that camera we're looking at We're looking at forty people. 559 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 3: Is mom, is dad? 560 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 2: Siblings, you got the girl, you got cousins, aunts, uncles, neighbors, 561 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: hangers on, whatever the hell is going on back there? 562 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: And then there's like a little table in front of 563 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 2: the kid with a phone on it. Talk to me, now, 564 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: what is actually happening? As this kid sits there and 565 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 2: waits for an hour or two or three or sometimes in. 566 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 4: The next day. Yea, how often is this thing ringing? 567 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 4: You do have people who are calling hey man when 568 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 4: you're getting drafted, or you got friends who are calling 569 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 4: and playing hey, this is uh Todd Willoughby from the 570 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns. We want to draft you in the It's 571 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 4: just me junior, right, you got You've got a lot 572 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 4: of that a lot of that. You got relatives kidding me? No, no, no, seriously, I. 573 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 2: Don't know if I could continue to be friends if 574 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 2: something n you can lose. 575 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 4: Since you can lose, you should lose some friends in 576 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 4: that situation. 577 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm about to maybe I'm I'm looking at 578 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: millions of dollars with every pick. And you're calling because 579 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: you think you're funny because you're impersonating the GM of 580 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 2: the Browns or something like that. 581 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, man, Okay. 582 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 4: You know, and then you have relatives like older relatives, 583 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 4: aunties and grandma's baby. What did you did the draft? 584 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 4: Did they put you on the you? Did they put 585 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 4: you in the military? 586 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 3: Baby? Did the draft? You know? 587 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 4: You got to go to war now? And it's like, no, 588 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 4: big Mama, it's not war draft. It's the NFL draft. 589 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 4: Oh well, baby, did I is it time? Tell me 590 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 4: what's going on? 591 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 3: Big Mama. 592 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 4: I got to go. I got to keep them. I'm 593 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 4: trying to do the phone. Oh okay, oh the baby, 594 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 4: just call me. Okay, that's what you get. You know, 595 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 4: It's it's a lot, It's just not you know, it's 596 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 4: a lot. Now most of the guys and agents have said, agent, 597 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 4: keep this line. Fear a lot of the times it's 598 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 4: the agent's phone, Like that's what agents start doing. Hey, 599 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 4: we give all the teams my number, so you don't 600 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 4: have to worry about it, you know, and I'll give it. 601 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 4: I'll give you the phone when. 602 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 2: Except for the agent might have eighteen guys in the draft. 603 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 3: He knows where the agent is. 604 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know you got the agent, you have 605 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 4: the agent assistant, you have all of the and you 606 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 4: know you can have a line dedicated to you and 607 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 4: stuff like that. Now you know you can get a 608 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 4: million phones. 609 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 3: You know, this is. 610 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 4: Only the draft phone. Right beforehand, it was the house phone. 611 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 4: And you if it's somebody you on the phone, it's busy. 612 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 4: You don't even got call. 613 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 3: Wait right, all right? 614 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 2: But are there team Like, are there teams calling who 615 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 2: aren't about to draft you? They're trying to get info? 616 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,720 Speaker 2: You mentioned that late that happens. Does it happen early? 617 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 3: Well? 618 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 4: I got a call from the Jets at the end 619 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 4: of the second round and the scout that I had 620 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 4: been you know, I guess he lived in San Diego 621 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 4: because we spend a lot of time together, and that's 622 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 4: why I thought I was getting drafted by the Jets 623 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 4: in the third round. He was like, Hey, how you doing. 624 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 4: You know our picks coming up in the third round, 625 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 4: and just want you to know. You know, you're a 626 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 4: guy and you know all of this stuff. So I'm 627 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 4: thinking I'm going to the Jets the first day, and 628 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 4: you know that pick comes up with the so and 629 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 4: so pick in the third round. I'm like, man, my 630 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 4: phone didn't ring yet. The New York Jets select Jason Fabini, 631 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 4: tackle from I can't remember where Jason went to school, 632 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 4: and I was just like, oh gosh, By the way, 633 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 4: how did Jason's career go? Jason played a long time. 634 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 4: He was a good player. Jason was a good player. 635 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 4: That I mean, they it happened the way it was 636 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 4: supposed to happen, right, because if they take me, I 637 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 4: don't go to the super Bowl. 638 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 3: Good point, right, I. 639 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 4: Don't you know, I don't you know, have the career 640 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 4: that I had. And so everything works out the way 641 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 4: it works out, and so that's just you know, after 642 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 4: that happened, you get dejected because now I got the 643 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 4: whole night to think about it. The whole next day. 644 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 4: You wake up early in the draft was like a 645 00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 4: nine am. 646 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that second day before they started, especially if you're. 647 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 4: A West coast. Oh yeah, it maybe eight. It may 648 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 4: have been started at eight. 649 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 3: It was early, brother, Yeah, they had four rounds to 650 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 3: get through. 651 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it was you know, it wasn't you know, 652 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 4: it was on ESPN, but it wasn't like it is now. 653 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 3: It wasn't a spectacle. 654 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 4: So they had, you know, on Sundays, they got all 655 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 4: kind of they got golf, NASCAR, they got all kinds 656 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 4: of stuff to basketball games, all sorts of stuff to 657 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 4: go through. 658 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 3: So it was early. 659 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 4: They got it out the way, and you know, it 660 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 4: just was it just it was miserable until it wasn't. 661 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 3: After I got drafted. 662 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 4: It felt good that I got drafted, you know, I, 663 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 4: you know, someone who'd only been playing I started playing 664 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 4: football in the ninth grade, right, So for someone who 665 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 4: you know, essentially had been playing football for nine years, 666 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 4: I ended up being drafted it eight years, end up 667 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 4: being drafted into the NFL and achieving not a lifelong 668 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 4: goal but a goal that I set for myself in 669 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 4: high school. And look, it's just one of those things 670 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,919 Speaker 4: that you try to accomplish as many goals in life 671 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 4: as you can and that was really a big. 672 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 3: One for me. That's amazing. It's amazing. But I like, 673 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 3: does that stuff happen even in the first round. 674 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 2: I guess the reason I'm asking is just because you 675 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 2: see these guys on the phone and then they hang 676 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 2: up and they're like going to the. 677 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 3: Bills, and everyone's like super surprised. 678 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, right, the bills are on the clock, 679 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 2: and your son was just on the phone for three 680 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 2: and a half minutes just going yes, yes, sir, yep, 681 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,879 Speaker 2: you got a dog, yep, thank you, sir. Yeah, can't wait, 682 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,479 Speaker 2: can't wait to be yep, thank you sir. Okay, sure, yep, 683 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 2: I'll hold okay, Hey coach, yup, thank you. 684 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 4: Well you also have got a dog like you a right? 685 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 4: You also have teams that will call you before, like 686 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 4: so say Green Bays on the clock and then uh 687 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 4: you know, you know Cleveland it is after them, and 688 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 4: Cleveland calls was like, hey, with this next pick, we're 689 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 4: gonna take you right, So it's you get it a 690 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 4: little bit different, you know what I mean, Like it's 691 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 4: it's not as direct as they're on the clock, so 692 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 4: you must be going there. 693 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 3: Okay, I got you, I got you. 694 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Mark Willy from Salam you mentioned that 695 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 2: I chose violence right off the top of the show. 696 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 2: I have a different word for it, but well, we'll 697 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 2: discuss it coming up next. Don't worry, brother, I'm gonna 698 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 2: ease into this one. I promise. I promise you're going 699 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 2: to ease into this one. This is as broad as 700 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 2: it can be, but I think we can all agree. 701 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 2: This is one of those things that we can all 702 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 2: agree on, and that is change is hard, Transition is difficult. 703 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 2: This happens in families, in jobs, in geography, it certainly 704 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 2: happens in sports. And it looks to me like it 705 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 2: has crystallized in the NBA, or is at least about 706 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 2: two And we'll get to that. We're broadcasting live from 707 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 2: the ti Raq dot com studios. Tyrac dot com will 708 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 2: help you get there on matt Selection, fast free shipping, 709 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 2: free road hazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers 710 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 2: tirac dot com. The way tire buying should be first 711 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 2: and foremost thing I'm gonna say is there are three 712 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 2: stars in the NBA I'd like to use as an 713 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 2: example here, and the one that plays for the Lakers 714 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 2: is going to be the is likely. I should say 715 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 2: there's a chance that as we're doing this show tonight, 716 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 2: he kind of becomes the last one of the three standing. 717 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 2: So that's good. But let me start with a question. 718 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,720 Speaker 2: How are you feeling about the series between the Lakers 719 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 2: and Nuggets so far? 720 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 3: Obviously I'm irritated. 721 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 4: That game really took it out of me, like I 722 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 4: was physically ill. And then I went to the game 723 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 4: on Thursday, game three, and almost went to jail. I called, 724 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 4: I text my wife. I said, hey, I said, hey, 725 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 4: maybe I'm going to jail tonight. I said, they lose 726 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 4: this game, I'm going to jail, so you need to 727 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 4: build me out. 728 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 3: And what was her response? You have kids at home? Yes, 729 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 3: I said, never mind, call someone else. 730 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 4: But I went to the movies. I went to like 731 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 4: a ten forty five movie to just. 732 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 2: I'm starting to gather that the movies are like your meditation. 733 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 4: I don't drink, I don't smoke out any of those 734 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 4: things with something stick going. 735 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 2: Like if I run into you in a movie, the 736 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,720 Speaker 2: first thing I'm going to say to you is not hello, 737 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say what's wrong? 738 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 4: The first I'm a movie fan, but now I get 739 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 4: it that's my happy place. That's my happy all right. 740 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 4: So them coming out Saturday and playing like when you 741 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 4: look at it, they've played the Denver Nuggets extremely well, 742 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 4: except for the last four minutes of a game. 743 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, the first halves have been unbelievable. 744 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,720 Speaker 4: So can you finish? Can you finish? You have the talent, 745 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 4: you have the ability. The thing I don't like, speaking 746 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 4: as a fan, I don't like our talent our starters 747 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 4: being not available Cam Reddish, uh, Vanderbilt, like all of 748 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 4: them like to me, that gives us the advantage because 749 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 4: those are our six, A, six, nine, wing, three and 750 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 4: D guys. And I was upset with Darvin ham on 751 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 4: Thursday because that lineup he had with Austin Rivers guarding 752 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 4: Michael Porter Junior was ridiculous, so much so when I 753 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 4: was at the game, I get a text from my 754 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 4: wife and she says, this is from your son. He 755 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 4: said he's mad that we're playing a small ball defense 756 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 4: and that Austin Reeves is guarding Michael Porter Junior for 757 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 4: half of the game. They have three point guard, three 758 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 4: point guards and on one lineup, so they're just going 759 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 4: to bullyball us. That was from a nine year old 760 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 4: from a nine year old a nine year old. 761 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 3: And I imagine you immediately uped his allowance. I mean, 762 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 3: first of all, I'm so proud that his basketball breakdown 763 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 3: right there, Mark, We're. 764 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 4: On our way, just so you know, because you know 765 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 4: eventually he'll wake up six a sixty nine and we're 766 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 4: on our way. 767 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 3: We got business, okay. 768 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 4: But I say that to say, if a nine year 769 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 4: old can see that, how come a coach of an 770 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 4: NBA franchise doesn't realize that that was it? Could I 771 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 4: couldn't even believe what was going on. And so the 772 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 4: fact that the lack of adjustments that were being made 773 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 4: in that game in Game three, they just bothered me. 774 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 4: Seeing those guys over there in them shiny outfits, just 775 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 4: hanging out not playing. I'm like, bruh, come on now, 776 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 4: I just didn't like it. 777 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 3: Now. 778 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 4: I love the effort that they came out with in 779 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:41,959 Speaker 4: the in game four. 780 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 3: Can they match that effort in Denver? 781 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 4: It's gonna be tougher because in the third fourth quarter 782 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 4: it's hard to breathe up there. 783 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 2: Man. 784 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 4: You get tired real fast. 785 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 3: Yep. 786 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 4: Someone who played there, and I knew we took advantage 787 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 4: of teams in the third and fourth quarter, especially in 788 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter when we played because do you just 789 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 4: get to but can you can? Can you can you 790 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 4: keep that up? Can you bring that energy to the 791 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 4: table and stave off elimination? And I think they can 792 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 4: because they have the talent too, And of course we've 793 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 4: got to make shots. But look, I'm optimistic because we're 794 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 4: still playing. The reality of it is no team has 795 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 4: come back to in a series down three to zero 796 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 4: in a seven game series. So I'll leave it at this, 797 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 4: I hope. 798 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 2: So fair enough, fair enough, And there is probably a 799 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 2: Darvin Ham conversation. Lebron had a real nice conversation with 800 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 2: Darvin Man during the game the other day. 801 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 3: Fun. 802 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know exactly what he's talking about. Well 803 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 4: he's right, Yeah, yep. 804 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 3: He's right. 805 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 2: And I like there are certain people, by the way, 806 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 2: Draymond does that a lot. But it's been proven that, 807 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 2: you know, Draymond is is a crazy person. Sometimes if 808 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 2: Lebron James shows that cop kind of energy. 809 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 3: With regard to review that. 810 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 4: Like you do it, whether it's you just do it, 811 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 4: do it, do it. 812 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 2: I have a hard time with hold on, Lebron, we 813 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,720 Speaker 2: see your energy. Let's go to the iPad. Hey, Bobby, 814 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 2: what's the too late? 815 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 3: Dude? Too late? 816 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 2: And obviously it didn't lead to anything bad, but it's 817 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 2: interesting video and it brings us kind of inside maybe 818 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,879 Speaker 2: the vibe on the Laker bench. And I know there's 819 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 2: a lot of heat right now for Darvin Ham. Okay, 820 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 2: as it should be fair. All right, let's go to 821 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:45,760 Speaker 2: fantasyland though for just a second, and let's pretend. Let's 822 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 2: pretend that the Lakers are not going to become the 823 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 2: first team in the history of the NBA to rally 824 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 2: from down three. Oh, I'm just asking you to go 825 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 2: on a I'm good. We're gonna go on a metal 826 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 2: journey together. Okay, carpet ride through the air. The Lakers 827 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 2: don't rally in this series. And the Phoenix Suns, who 828 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 2: clearly appear to hate one another. I don't know if 829 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 2: you've watched this team play basketball. I don't know what 830 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 2: the hell's going on there. But like, whenever you see 831 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 2: something look like that, advise them to not get married. 832 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 2: If a couple looks like that, be like, look, can 833 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 2: we talk before you send out the wedding invitations. I 834 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 2: don't know what happened there. Too much talent really ineffective. 835 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 2: Wouldn't be surprised if they go home in three and 836 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 2: a half hours here from all right, that's Kevin Durant. 837 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 2: Steph Curry's already got a fishing pole in the water. Yeah, 838 00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 2: and Lebron again. Fantasyland might join soon. And if that happens, 839 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 2: then we head to the second round of the NBA 840 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 2: playoffs without any of the three guys. And I'm doing 841 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant quite frankly a favor even putting him on 842 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 2: this list, because he's not the ratings driver that Lebron 843 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 2: James and Steph Curry have been. But I do think 844 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,840 Speaker 2: he's been represented in that era of basketball when people 845 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,760 Speaker 2: start talking about the most effective people on the court 846 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 2: one frame or another, those three guys, for the better 847 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 2: part of a decade have been the people you would 848 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 2: consider taken first if you could pick anyone in the 849 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 2: NBA around whom to start your team. So these guys 850 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 2: for a long time now have been driving ratings in 851 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 2: the NBA. And should they all be gone in the 852 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 2: second round, I really do you have questions about who 853 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 2: that next person is or who those next people are and. 854 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 3: How it's going to perform. 855 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 2: I think basketball fans are very comfortable going, well, Yo 856 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 2: kich is the baddest man on the planet right now? 857 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 4: Cool? Yeah, but that's not okay? 858 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 3: Great? 859 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 2: Is that going to bring people to the yard? Lucas 860 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 2: almost averaging his triple double? Is that going to bring 861 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 2: people to the yard. We're standing right now looking at 862 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 2: a final four on both sides, both conferences, and you're 863 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 2: asking Yo Kicic and Luca and Tatum and Jalen Brunson. 864 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 3: To carry the mail. It doesn't feel to me like 865 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 3: they're ready to do it. 866 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:02,919 Speaker 4: No, it's going to be a cold day for it 867 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,840 Speaker 4: be a fewership. 868 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,439 Speaker 2: Well not like how about cold years? Like in other words, 869 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 2: what do they what do they do about that? 870 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 3: This is the end? My only friend the Okay, So 871 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,439 Speaker 3: who are the draws? Right? 872 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 4: I would say, question? I would say, the joker isn't 873 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 4: the draw? I mean he plays the most boring brand 874 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 4: of basketball, which is the most excellent form of basketball 875 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 4: to be played, super quirky and not exciting times. 876 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's fun, but yeah it's fun. 877 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 2: But in doses, okay, right, I would I would say, 878 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 2: right now, if I had to pick someone that's not 879 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 2: the three guys that we're talking about right now, who's 880 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 2: in the playoffs and looks like he could really excite people. 881 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 3: I would say, Anthony Edwards. 882 00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 4: I love Anthony Everts. He gotta get out of Minnesota. 883 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 4: Markets matter, got to get out of Minnesota, right. People 884 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 4: forget Kevin Garnett was that Minnesota. We only talk about 885 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 4: him when he went to the Celtics. But the last 886 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 4: time Minnesota was relevant was Kevin Garnett. I mean he 887 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 4: I think he just tied or passed him for thirty 888 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 4: point playoff games in franchise history. Edwards did just tied 889 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 4: our passed Kevin Garnett. I mean, he was raw business 890 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 4: that the number one seed ran to the Lakers in 891 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 4: the conference finals. Didn't get past that. But when Kevin 892 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 4: went to the Celtics and they created, you know, the 893 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 4: Big Three, that's when the lord and everything in the 894 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 4: attention in the eyes took off, and he would I mean, 895 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 4: could you imagine a young Kevin Garnett at THET in Boston, Mike. 896 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 3: That's gracious. 897 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,879 Speaker 4: So it's it's really the market, like the is the 898 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 4: Minnesota market ready for the spotlight? 899 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 3: Like that? 900 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:29,280 Speaker 4: Tell me what other small market team like even Joannice 901 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 4: in Milwaukee. You know who is cooking and who could 902 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 4: be the face of the front of the NBA, who 903 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 4: the world is getting to see for a second year 904 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:46,959 Speaker 4: in a row. Jalen Bronson. Oh, he putting on the show, 905 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 4: putting on a show. He putting on the show. I mean, 906 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 4: this kid is unreal. 907 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 3: He's very good. He's unreal. 908 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 4: Now he's not superhuman like Lebron, and he's not shooting 909 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,359 Speaker 4: like Steph. Like Steph and Lebron had two things that 910 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 4: no one else had sure, and that's hard to replace 911 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 4: that when those other guys don't have it right, Like 912 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,839 Speaker 4: Steph's the greatest shooter we've ever seen, it's people won't 913 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 4: tune in to see it. Lebron James is a physical 914 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 4: specimen like we had never seen before. Move, control the ball, 915 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 4: handle le ball, do all those things. We just weren't 916 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:29,839 Speaker 4: privited that in that frame six nine two sixty two seventy. 917 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,759 Speaker 4: So those are outliers, those are special things. Those were 918 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 4: We passed a manto from Kobe to Lebron and too Steph, 919 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 4: and they took it and ran with it. I mean, 920 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards is what sixt' six six ' seven athletic. 921 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 3: If you if you're lucky. 922 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:51,319 Speaker 4: Right, six four or sixty five. If Athletic will put 923 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,720 Speaker 4: you on a poster, But is it enough to carry 924 00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:01,720 Speaker 4: the league in viewership? That's a tough. 925 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 2: One, no, no doubt, And in fact, I got a 926 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,879 Speaker 2: very uncomfortable question to ask about all of this coming 927 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 2: up next. 928 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,760 Speaker 3: We'll do that right around the corner. 929 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 2: Thoroughbred Racing has a new independent regulator, HEISA, that is 930 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 2: implementing comprehensive reforms, and the sport is combining hands on 931 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 2: care with cutting edge technology to help keep its athletes safe. 932 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 2: To learn more of visit Safety runs First dot Com. 933 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,760 Speaker 2: Dot Safety runs First dot Com with e from Salam, 934 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 2: Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio. All right, these are the 935 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 2: Tyraq dot Com studios. Efram and I will not be 936 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 2: with you all night long, but a good portion of 937 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 2: it another hour and a half or so. Plank and 938 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 2: Spaniard will take over, then Mark with Itty from Salam. 939 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 2: Glad you're with us whatever you are doing tonight, including basketball, 940 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 2: which appears to be the potential downfall of the Milwaukee Bucks. 941 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,280 Speaker 2: Before like, like, I want to continue the conversation we're having, 942 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 2: but uh, forever Pacers go up three to one. Here 943 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 2: they're up by thirteen, with under four minutes to go. 944 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 4: On on on, oh sorry, go ahead, no, no, no, 945 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:19,560 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna get away. 946 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 3: Last thing I ever want to do is be the 947 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:24,760 Speaker 3: fun police. 948 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,879 Speaker 4: Remember at the beginning of the playoffs, we were talking 949 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 4: about this last Sunday, I was getting ready to start. 950 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,359 Speaker 4: It's getting ready to go down, and we were talking 951 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 4: about this series, Milwaukee and Pacers series, and I was, I. 952 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 3: Said, the Pacers are gonna get They're gonna lose. 953 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:49,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I retorted with this is a dangerous series 954 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:55,239 Speaker 4: from Milwaukee, especially with the Yiannis injury. But wow, but 955 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,360 Speaker 4: on yeah, but on top of that, the brand of 956 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,280 Speaker 4: basketball all the Pacers play, They're up and down the court, 957 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 4: and I and I said, the Milwaukee has one of 958 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 4: the oldest teams in the league. Now we didn't know 959 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,320 Speaker 4: Dame Janni's correct was gonna be heard and body was 960 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 4: gonna get itself ejected. 961 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 2: Milwaukee was was winning Game one, and my assumption was 962 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 2: Giannis was gonna be back in Game two. 963 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well it wasn't. He wasn't. Because now that lends 964 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 4: to just how serious that injury was. When you get 965 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 4: that calf injury like that, and that thing drips down 966 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 4: into that Achilles. What you don't want to do, as 967 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 4: as kd. Uh huh as KD. What you don't want 968 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 4: to do is come on out there and push through it. 969 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:57,280 Speaker 4: And so it's one of those situations where Indiana's dangerous 970 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 4: because they shoot a high volume of threes, and they 971 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 4: shoot them fast and they're up and down. Best thing, 972 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 4: best thing Indiana did was Pascal Siakam got him from Toronto. 973 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 4: Now that gave them an attacking wing to go with 974 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 4: their outside shooters. And so it's a you know, it's 975 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 4: a it's a it's a perfect storm for Milwaukee to 976 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 4: run into this team in the first round. 977 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 3: This thing about to get ugly for. 978 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 2: Him, it's probably about to get ugly. I'm still like, 979 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 2: of course Indiana's dangerous. Pascal Siakam brings up a different dynamic. 980 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 2: I am not yet bullish on their future unless everybody 981 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 2: else in front of them keeps getting hurt as well. 982 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 4: Well, well, I'm just talking about this series. Yep, that's 983 00:58:55,680 --> 00:59:02,919 Speaker 4: just this one, because for this is good. Miles Turner, man, 984 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 4: you remember when we almost had Miles Turner and Buddy 985 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 4: Hill and Lebron and didnt wanted to keep Westbrook remember. 986 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 3: That that's a mare. 987 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 2: Hey, ash your boy, you sign him, You're you're getting. 988 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:30,320 Speaker 3: You're getting a guard, a forward, a center, a GM, 989 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,920 Speaker 3: a coach, you got everything. 990 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,479 Speaker 4: Well he better coach all of it beta his next 991 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 4: one tomorrow. 992 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,520 Speaker 3: All of it. Well. 993 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 2: You brought up an interesting thought a little bit ago 994 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 2: with regard to Anthony Edwards. 995 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 3: He's got to get out of Minnesota. 996 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 2: And I know that there's a healthy portion of America 997 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 2: that whenever someone says something like that, it lands not offensive, 998 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 2: but it's it's difficult to hear if you root for 999 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 2: a team that's not one of the teams that people 1000 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 2: try to go to to become a star. And when 1001 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 2: it comes from a Laker fan, I know how that resonates. 1002 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 2: Of course, Oh gosh, you's got to get out of Minnesota. Well, 1003 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 2: well let me ask you this. 1004 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 4: Well I did say where you had to go? I 1005 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 4: just said, well, that's. 1006 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,959 Speaker 3: The implication is clear. 1007 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 2: There's only a handful of organizations where where that player 1008 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:26,959 Speaker 2: wants to go and be a star. 1009 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 3: And is it l A or is it New York? 1010 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 3: There there are a few others. 1011 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 2: I get it, but like sometimes I look at it 1012 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 2: and I go, okay, chicken of the egg. Is it 1013 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 2: the city or is it the is it the generational player? 1014 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,760 Speaker 2: I mean the Spurs had a dynasty. I don't know 1015 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 2: if they ever drove ratings. 1016 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 4: No, they just won. They just want so you can. 1017 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 4: You could have it either way and Milwaukee, right, league 1018 01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 4: MVP wins championships. Yeah, but wellamionship, champ championship, champion championship right, 1019 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 4: So okay, yeah, that's that's good. That works. But if 1020 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 4: you're somewhere and you're not winning championships, are playing in 1021 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 4: the finals, then yeah, that star that meteor to face 1022 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:26,440 Speaker 4: of the league. It doesn't go quite as fast. 1023 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 2: Well, of course, but couldn't Aunt respond right now and 1024 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 2: be like, what if maybe we're about to win a 1025 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 2: championship if none of us, none of us believe that's 1026 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,439 Speaker 2: gonna happen right now, but we might be wrong. 1027 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 3: You're you're right. 1028 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 4: They could shock everybody, and they can win it this year, 1029 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 4: then they got to win it next year, and then 1030 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 4: he's got to be in the MVP conversation, which is 1031 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 4: not we're talking about taking over the face of the league. 1032 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 3: Well, right, Lebron. 1033 01:01:55,120 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 4: James, Right, Lebron James, Steph Curry, Sure, and you threw in, uh, 1034 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 4: Kevin Durant, who. 1035 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 2: Once upon a time did make Oklahoma City, Oklahoma pretty cool. 1036 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:15,040 Speaker 4: Until it wasn't until they all left. Everybody left. Well 1037 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 4: you know why they all left, right, they all left. Yeah, 1038 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 4: but that and they all went on to be MVPs 1039 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 4: after they left. 1040 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 3: This is true. 1041 01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 4: So look, I get it. They were all there, they 1042 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,280 Speaker 4: were doing this and doing that, and then he he 1043 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 4: was like, I'm out. They all went to bigger markets. 1044 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 2: But that wasn't about Oklahoma City. Russell Westbrook won the 1045 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:44,480 Speaker 2: MVP in Oklahoma City exactly, and and duran. 1046 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 4: Should just right, what if what if Russ would have 1047 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 4: just been like, I'm here, what if the market is 1048 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,680 Speaker 4: too small? Whatever, That's what I'm telling you. 1049 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 3: They weren't very good. He's not able to be a one. 1050 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 2: I think it has a lot to do with why 1051 01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 2: Kevin left in the first place. 1052 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 4: I mean, look, they were already mad because they had 1053 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,360 Speaker 4: to get you know, they didn't re sign James, which 1054 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 4: was impossible. 1055 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 2: And listen, this is a bad example because Lebron is 1056 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,919 Speaker 2: so transformational if you want to call him second best 1057 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:16,800 Speaker 2: player all time whatever, like, but what the heck was 1058 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:23,919 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Cavaliers organization. I just think if you are 1059 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 2: in today's day and age, if you're that good, you 1060 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 2: would be well, you can be the chicken. 1061 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 4: Well just look at it, like la Lebron was in 1062 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:41,320 Speaker 4: Cleveland and everybody loved Lebron, but everybody respected Lebron after 1063 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 4: he won the championships in Miami. Now most people didn't 1064 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,120 Speaker 4: like that he went and had to do it that way. 1065 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 4: But if Lebron James would have just stayed in Cleveland 1066 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,080 Speaker 4: and they didn't win a championship, what will we be 1067 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 4: talking about, Well, it would be highly disappointing. 1068 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,240 Speaker 3: But I'm right, don't I don't know if that's face 1069 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 3: of the league stuff. 1070 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 4: Face of the league, MVP regular series, Hold on, listen, 1071 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,440 Speaker 4: listen to what I'm saying, face of the face of 1072 01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 4: the league, MVP Finals, MVP champion. 1073 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1074 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 4: Name one face of the league that didn't have any 1075 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:19,840 Speaker 4: of those. Oh, I can't and won't. So what I'm 1076 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 4: saying is Anthony Edwards. Right, if he goes and they 1077 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,120 Speaker 4: win the championship and he's Finals MVP this year and 1078 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:33,800 Speaker 4: then he's the league MVP next year in Minnesota, now 1079 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,280 Speaker 4: we can talk about it. But until those things happen, 1080 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 4: which we don't think they will there right now this year? 1081 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 4: Then what are we talking about? 1082 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:46,040 Speaker 2: Well, you're you're not wrong, but your first response was he's. 1083 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:46,840 Speaker 3: Got to get out of there. 1084 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 2: Well, I'm like they got they got a better record 1085 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 2: than all the teams you think he should joy. 1086 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, but they don't play on national television. 1087 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 3: They will if they start winning the rings. 1088 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,680 Speaker 4: So that's what I'm talking into you about that. 1089 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 2: But he doesn't have to leave. Why does he have 1090 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:08,280 Speaker 2: to leave them? Okay, well we'll just see. Well we'll see. 1091 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,600 Speaker 4: First of all, Minnesota is not a free agent destination. 1092 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,320 Speaker 4: Just f YI, when you need to, when you need help. 1093 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,760 Speaker 4: Why do you think the teams that Lebron played with 1094 01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:24,720 Speaker 4: in Cleveland didn't have it? Nobody was going to Cleveland? Wow, 1095 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,120 Speaker 4: nobody went to Cleveland. 1096 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,000 Speaker 3: They did the second time around, but they knew when 1097 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 3: Kyrie was already there. 1098 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:30,880 Speaker 4: Who went? 1099 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 3: Who went to Cleveland? 1100 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:38,440 Speaker 2: Everybody Richard Jefferson wanted he had his pick of the 1101 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:39,280 Speaker 2: litter every year. 1102 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, but they didn't go to believe right that those 1103 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,560 Speaker 4: are the guys I'm talking about, guys who are stepping 1104 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 4: into their prime. Right when he went, when when he 1105 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 4: joined d Wade Chris Bosh was like, I'm coming right, 1106 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 4: That's that would have never happened in Cleveland. Guess what. 1107 01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 4: D Wade wasn't leaving Miami to go to cleve Eveland. 1108 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,920 Speaker 4: Chris Bosh wasn't leaving Toronto to go to Cleveland. 1109 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 2: That was the team that had the financial wherewithal to 1110 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 2: do that though. 1111 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,160 Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is nobody was coming at that 1112 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 4: level in their prime to play in Cleveland with Lebron. 1113 01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:18,440 Speaker 4: That's why he had to leave. As great as Lebron 1114 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:24,960 Speaker 4: was taking Booby Gibson and Mario Chalmers and all, no, 1115 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,200 Speaker 4: he wasn't even there. Some of those guys that he 1116 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:33,919 Speaker 4: took to the finals all those years, they were just guys. 1117 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:35,800 Speaker 2: Right, But you're not going to get the stars of 1118 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,640 Speaker 2: the league to join a star like they want to 1119 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:39,680 Speaker 2: be the one themselves. 1120 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 3: They don't want to go join Lebron. 1121 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,440 Speaker 4: I think now, No, nobody was going to Cleveland. Nobody 1122 01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 4: was going to Cleveland championship. Guess who want to get 1123 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:53,960 Speaker 4: out of Cleveland right now? Donovan Mitchell. So I mean 1124 01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:59,360 Speaker 4: nobody's nobody's going. So when I'm talking about markets, that's 1125 01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:04,920 Speaker 4: what I'm talking right destination. Oh look, you about to 1126 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 4: get me in trouble. 1127 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,880 Speaker 3: When I'm talking about stars in the league. 1128 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 2: Sorry, Steve, I'm talking about Steve to say exactly like 1129 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 2: I mean, right. 1130 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,720 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Steve. Yeah, he got me round up and 1131 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:15,960 Speaker 4: I completely. 1132 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,320 Speaker 7: Forgot providing an off ramp there. 1133 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 4: Happy to help. 1134 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 7: By the way, you guys talked about the greatness of 1135 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,240 Speaker 7: Jalen Brunson. We do have an Indiana Final, by the way, 1136 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,200 Speaker 7: they've just won, and we had road wins for the 1137 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,080 Speaker 7: Clippers and Knicks. But Jalen Brunson was not a first 1138 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,800 Speaker 7: round draft pick at a Villanova, but he started in 1139 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,920 Speaker 7: Philadelphia in this ninety seven to ninety two win today, 1140 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 7: Jalen Brunson's in his second year with the Knicks. Last season, 1141 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:42,400 Speaker 7: he was at twenty four point six assists per game. 1142 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:47,440 Speaker 7: This year, playing more games, twenty nine points seven assists 1143 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 7: per game. And then there's this from AP regarding this 1144 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 7: game tonight, And yeah, we mentioned earlier. Technically it was 1145 01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 7: a road game, it sounded like a next home New 1146 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,600 Speaker 7: York wins ninety seven to ninety two, so neither team 1147 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,120 Speaker 7: scores one hundred points and Jalen Brunson had forty seven 1148 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:12,560 Speaker 7: with ten assists to generate that many points in your 1149 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,680 Speaker 7: team's playoff game where your team does not score one 1150 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,840 Speaker 7: hundred in that game. Incredibly rare AP looked it up 1151 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,599 Speaker 7: once again in the play by play era, So going 1152 01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 7: back twenty five plus years, the only guy that had 1153 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,839 Speaker 7: a better game when his team scored under one hundred 1154 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:33,599 Speaker 7: was Allen Iverson himself for Philadelphia when he generated seventy 1155 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:37,680 Speaker 7: two out of ninety eight points. Brunson generated seventy out 1156 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,160 Speaker 7: of ninety seven in that Nicks win at Philly today, 1157 01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 7: and the Knicks are leading three games to one in that. 1158 01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:45,240 Speaker 3: First round series. 1159 01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,080 Speaker 7: Pacers are up three games to one after a home 1160 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,439 Speaker 7: victory over Milwaukee. It's just gone final one twenty six 1161 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,360 Speaker 7: to one thirteen. The Bucks were without the injured Jannisontenacumpos 1162 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,560 Speaker 7: strain CAF and Damian Lillard out with a strained achilles, 1163 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,920 Speaker 7: and Bobby Port for some reason got kicked out in 1164 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,479 Speaker 7: the first quarter. That doesn't help the team either. Just 1165 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,559 Speaker 7: for the record, the Bucks were shooting well for much 1166 01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,439 Speaker 7: of the day, but it winds up the home team 1167 01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 7: winning the game. Over in the Western Conference, we've got 1168 01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,080 Speaker 7: Minnesota up three games to none playing at Phoenix in 1169 01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:19,360 Speaker 7: a few minutes. The Clippers blew a thirty one point lead, 1170 01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,360 Speaker 7: but still won at Dallas one sixteen to one eleven. 1171 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 7: That series tied at two games apiece. I will add, 1172 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,360 Speaker 7: by the way, the Milwaukee Bucks actually missed five free 1173 01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,599 Speaker 7: throws in this loss tonight. The Bucks had only missed 1174 01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,120 Speaker 7: three free throws in the first three games of the 1175 01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,920 Speaker 7: series combined to the NHL Playoffs. The number one New 1176 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,719 Speaker 7: York Rangers are tied two to late second period at Washington. 1177 01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,800 Speaker 7: Vancouver came back for an overtime win four to three 1178 01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:50,000 Speaker 7: at Nashville, and it was Colorado five to one over 1179 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,679 Speaker 7: the Jets the late game in an hour in La, 1180 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 7: We'll have the Kings hosting Edmonton. Danny Hamlin took the 1181 01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,120 Speaker 7: NASCAR Race at Dover his third win of the season. 1182 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 7: Kyle Larson finished second to Major League Baseball. The Cubs 1183 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 7: were down four to nothing going to the seventh. It's 1184 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,680 Speaker 7: now four to four at Boston. In the bottom of 1185 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,680 Speaker 7: the ninth, Cubs tied it out of nowhere with a 1186 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,799 Speaker 7: three run homer in the eighth inning of play. Earlier 1187 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,080 Speaker 7: in Mexico City, Houston was a winner over Colorado eight 1188 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,320 Speaker 7: to two. Minnesota won at seventh straight game. It came 1189 01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:23,240 Speaker 7: against the slumping Angels eleven to five. San Diego's lost 1190 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,280 Speaker 7: four straight. Philadelphia won at San Diego eight to six 1191 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:30,439 Speaker 7: in ten innings. Atlanta edge Cleveland four to three, Toronto 1192 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,960 Speaker 7: beat the Dodgers three to one. Kevin Gosman had been 1193 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,599 Speaker 7: zero and three but got the win, and Oakland defeated 1194 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 7: Baltimore encloser Craig Kimberl seven to six, mets An eleven 1195 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,639 Speaker 7: innings over Saint Louis four two. 1196 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,840 Speaker 2: Back to you, all right, good stuff, Steve. That leaves 1197 01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:49,080 Speaker 2: you one more, at least one more. Soare with us 1198 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,760 Speaker 2: where you can bring up the millions and millions of 1199 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,760 Speaker 2: dollars the ballfers make okay where you were in. 1200 01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,080 Speaker 3: Fact more than you. 1201 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 7: It's a good comparison to even more interesting, I should say, 1202 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,840 Speaker 7: because of course PGA had the team event. It was 1203 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,559 Speaker 7: a pair of winners at New Orleans today and a 1204 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,160 Speaker 7: regular golf well, if if you can call live golf 1205 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,799 Speaker 7: a regular tournament, it was regular championship golf. 1206 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, put that in quotes in Australia. 1207 01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,439 Speaker 2: I love golf and I didn't even understand what it 1208 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,080 Speaker 2: was saying, Like, can you explain this. 1209 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,479 Speaker 3: Why yeah, McElroy and Lowry team up for a win. 1210 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:27,559 Speaker 7: That's correct, and they both mean they both get credit 1211 01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,280 Speaker 7: for a victory to add to their career totals. So 1212 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,679 Speaker 7: for Rory McElroy, he has twenty five PGA Tour wins. 1213 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,439 Speaker 7: Now he got some help in this one. 1214 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:41,160 Speaker 3: That's odd. I don't even understand how it works. How 1215 01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:41,759 Speaker 3: did it work? 1216 01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,839 Speaker 7: I would like to see them actually not just trade shots, 1217 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,760 Speaker 7: but trade clubs. Then you are really a team. 1218 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:54,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay boy, this this transformation has been has 1219 01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,479 Speaker 2: been something else the last few years. 1220 01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,400 Speaker 3: But anyway, thank you Steve, and look forward to that 1221 01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:00,200 Speaker 3: coming up. For sure. 1222 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,639 Speaker 2: We are in the tire rack dot Com studios and 1223 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:07,559 Speaker 2: we are full on wait till you hear this coming 1224 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:08,240 Speaker 2: up next. 1225 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:10,360 Speaker 3: I don't know about you, Ephrom. 1226 01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:16,040 Speaker 2: I find this for all athletes done mat of the sport. 1227 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 3: This is the cardinal sin that you can't do this. 1228 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:21,759 Speaker 3: It never works. 1229 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,800 Speaker 2: I know it's hard sometimes to not do it, but 1230 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 2: you gotta buck up and never do this at a 1231 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:34,479 Speaker 2: major NBA star did it today. We'll let you hear 1232 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,200 Speaker 2: what I'm talking about coming up next on Fox Sports Radio. 1233 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,040 Speaker 2: All right, that's e from Salama Mark Willard livety rack 1234 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,000 Speaker 2: dot Com Studios. 1235 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,400 Speaker 3: I bet you never did this in your whole career. 1236 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:47,679 Speaker 3: That'd be my bet. 1237 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,960 Speaker 2: I bet you never did this in your entire professional career. 1238 01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:54,960 Speaker 3: Take take a listen to this. 1239 01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 2: Joe Lmbid and the Sixers lose to the Knicks in 1240 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:04,080 Speaker 2: Philly today, and this was part of what Joel had 1241 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:05,360 Speaker 2: to say postgame. 1242 01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,559 Speaker 5: Disappointed. You know, I love our fans. I think it's 1243 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,600 Speaker 5: unfortunate and I'm not calling them out, but it is disappointing. 1244 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,320 Speaker 5: Obviously you got a lot of Knicks fans and that 1245 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,240 Speaker 5: down the road that I've never seen it, and I've 1246 01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:22,599 Speaker 5: been here for ten years. Yeah, kind of pisces me off, 1247 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:28,040 Speaker 5: especially because Philly is considerce falstyle, so you know, they've 1248 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,880 Speaker 5: always shown up and I don't think that should happen. 1249 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:32,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not okay. 1250 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:37,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So he's talking about how many Knicks fans were 1251 01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,800 Speaker 2: in attendance. We were talking about this earlier. It was overwhelming. 1252 01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:44,760 Speaker 2: It was crazy. This is one of my This is 1253 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:49,360 Speaker 2: one of my favorite phrases that people people do. If 1254 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:53,920 Speaker 2: someone says to you, hey, no shade, but what do 1255 01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:55,000 Speaker 2: you thinks about to happen? 1256 01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:56,839 Speaker 3: Okay? 1257 01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:01,320 Speaker 2: So I'm not calling out Philly fans, but well, that 1258 01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:07,080 Speaker 2: pissed me off and it's totally disappointing. Well, what is 1259 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:11,639 Speaker 2: it you think you just did? And I'm not saying 1260 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:17,840 Speaker 2: he's wrong, I'm just saying them's the rules. You don't 1261 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,240 Speaker 2: get to do that, and it's only going to get 1262 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:24,559 Speaker 2: worse through the years because the more money and the 1263 01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,559 Speaker 2: more public money, the more it's known, we'll all go 1264 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,080 Speaker 2: to spot track and figure out what your contract says. 1265 01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,000 Speaker 3: And the more we know that you make. 1266 01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:39,360 Speaker 2: Forty or fifty or sixty million dollars, the more talking 1267 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:43,439 Speaker 2: about fan behavior to me is totally off limits unless 1268 01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,519 Speaker 2: you're talking about a fan getting into a fight or 1269 01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:50,240 Speaker 2: saying something inappropriate direct to a player. When you're talking 1270 01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 2: about how a fan behaves with their money, I'm sorry, 1271 01:14:55,200 --> 01:15:00,920 Speaker 2: Joel Hard, No, there's no win there for him. 1272 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,400 Speaker 3: I think it means the fact that. 1273 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:09,720 Speaker 4: You know, allowing Knicks fans to buy it, like the 1274 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:13,040 Speaker 4: only way you get those tickets like that is retail market. 1275 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,240 Speaker 4: So if you're a Philly fan and you put your 1276 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:22,000 Speaker 4: tickets on one of the sites, yep, you don't get 1277 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:26,000 Speaker 4: to pick who buys the tickets, you know what I mean? 1278 01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:30,679 Speaker 4: So yes, I guess he's pointing out the fact that, look, 1279 01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:38,160 Speaker 4: Philly's steep in tradition, great fan base, so come to 1280 01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,960 Speaker 4: the game and be there. It literally I was sitting 1281 01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,360 Speaker 4: and watching the game with my son and my nephew, 1282 01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:50,960 Speaker 4: and for an instant, I I forgot that they were 1283 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:55,720 Speaker 4: in Philly. I literally was like, man, this is New York. 1284 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,439 Speaker 4: Wait a minute, because Bronson was getting ready to break 1285 01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:03,880 Speaker 4: the all time playoff points record, and I was like, man, 1286 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:05,920 Speaker 4: the garden about to go crazy. And I was like, 1287 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:11,719 Speaker 4: oh my god, this isn't the garden. They're in Philly. 1288 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,600 Speaker 4: But it had that same type of energy that the 1289 01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,880 Speaker 4: Knicks have when they're playing in the Garden, and that 1290 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,639 Speaker 4: blew my mind. I was not expecting that today. 1291 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:23,400 Speaker 3: I'm with you. 1292 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,639 Speaker 2: I'm with you, but I think the sort of reasoning 1293 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:30,000 Speaker 2: that you just laid out is a accurate. But b 1294 01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:35,719 Speaker 2: for me, it's off limits. If Sixers fans put their 1295 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,599 Speaker 2: tickets up because they are disinterested in a seven seed 1296 01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:44,439 Speaker 2: and another EMBIID injury, then that's what they get to do. 1297 01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,840 Speaker 2: And I like, I just find this. It happens once 1298 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,240 Speaker 2: or twice a year in every sport. It's guys, not 1299 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:57,040 Speaker 2: wanting to get booed, or or it's guys talking about, 1300 01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:01,040 Speaker 2: you know, a stadium being empty, or it's guys talking 1301 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,720 Speaker 2: about like what Joel did today, which is don't sell 1302 01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:09,040 Speaker 2: your tickets. And you know you can encourage people not 1303 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,360 Speaker 2: to do that, but after the fact to say that 1304 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,960 Speaker 2: the look of your building pissed you off. By the way, 1305 01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,280 Speaker 2: y'all want to not wait till tomorrow morning on Philadelphia 1306 01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,880 Speaker 2: Sports Radio to know what the call of reaction will be, 1307 01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,160 Speaker 2: because I can give it to you right now. Hey, 1308 01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:31,800 Speaker 2: bleep you Joel, stay healthy and win fifty games next year, 1309 01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:32,760 Speaker 2: maybe we'll be there. 1310 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:37,800 Speaker 3: Fair, No, doesn't matter, doesn't matter. 1311 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:42,639 Speaker 2: Like I just it's interesting to me when people fall 1312 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:46,320 Speaker 2: into the same trap over and over again. You're not 1313 01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,280 Speaker 2: gonna win talking about fame. 1314 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:50,160 Speaker 3: You're not. 1315 01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:55,800 Speaker 4: But the sport and the supports and nature is emotional. Yes, 1316 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 4: And I've been on the other end of a heart 1317 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:04,080 Speaker 4: fuck game, an emotional and physically draining game. 1318 01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,240 Speaker 3: It's one of the craziest feelings ever. Man. 1319 01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:12,440 Speaker 4: It really takes it out of you as a performer, 1320 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:17,840 Speaker 4: and it is very emotional. I remember my wife and 1321 01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,240 Speaker 4: I were first starting to day. She was like, Wow, 1322 01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:27,479 Speaker 4: this is crazy because of the just after a loss, 1323 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:32,120 Speaker 4: it just even after a win, you put so much 1324 01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:38,559 Speaker 4: physically and emotionally into the game, you wear it, right. 1325 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:43,160 Speaker 4: It takes hours to decompress, especially in football because of 1326 01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:47,599 Speaker 4: the the sheer nature and the sheer violence of the game, 1327 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:53,559 Speaker 4: Like you have to make yourself another person and just 1328 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:58,000 Speaker 4: to snap back into reality. It's tough to do, especially 1329 01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:02,040 Speaker 4: after the emotional loss where you felt like you didn't 1330 01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:08,040 Speaker 4: have home field or home court advantage at home. You know, 1331 01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:13,800 Speaker 4: it's like oof, that's tough, and so you lash out 1332 01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:17,120 Speaker 4: and look, you're right, and you're absolutely right when you say, 1333 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,320 Speaker 4: you know that's a that's a lose lose situation for 1334 01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:25,439 Speaker 4: an aw but the emotion of it is the emotion 1335 01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:32,240 Speaker 4: of it, right, So it hurts home court advantage. Home 1336 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:37,719 Speaker 4: field advantage means something to an athlete because it can 1337 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:44,040 Speaker 4: give you that boost you need. Right And whenever we 1338 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:49,400 Speaker 4: whenever we would play the Stealers like they were in Jacksonville, 1339 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:55,479 Speaker 4: we played the Steelers, we were at a disadvantage because 1340 01:19:55,520 --> 01:20:01,200 Speaker 4: the Steeler fans would be they would fill up the stadium. 1341 01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,679 Speaker 4: And that is when you have to go silent at home. 1342 01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,679 Speaker 4: Silent count at home because you can't hear when your 1343 01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:08,719 Speaker 4: offense has the ball. 1344 01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:14,519 Speaker 3: That's that's demoralizing. Yes, yes, so you feel the rams 1345 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:15,400 Speaker 3: have to do it offense. 1346 01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:20,479 Speaker 4: Yes, so I get it. You know, I understand Did. 1347 01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:21,960 Speaker 3: You ever do it? You never did it? 1348 01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:28,760 Speaker 2: Never talking about fans, Yeah, so I understand it. Then 1349 01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,720 Speaker 2: again I don't understand it. Speaking of which, I got 1350 01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:33,800 Speaker 2: a text after the draft for some friends. I got 1351 01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:38,640 Speaker 2: to tell you about coming up next, My man, I 1352 01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,320 Speaker 2: got to read something to you so you could help 1353 01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,240 Speaker 2: me with how to respond, because to me, there's just 1354 01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:45,200 Speaker 2: a head scratcher. 1355 01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:51,920 Speaker 3: And I get it. The NFL draft has turned into woodstock. 1356 01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what you know what I mean, I'm 1357 01:20:55,800 --> 01:21:00,240 Speaker 2: all for a good time, but a billion p people 1358 01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,799 Speaker 2: are whatever shown up to watch. Roger Goodell read names 1359 01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:09,519 Speaker 2: like as a slow graduation. Is you know, new and 1360 01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,439 Speaker 2: an interesting Let's talk it out. We're broadcasting live from 1361 01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:16,000 Speaker 2: the Tirack dot com studios. Tyrec dot com will help 1362 01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,519 Speaker 2: you get there an unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free 1363 01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:22,280 Speaker 2: road hazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers. Tyrac 1364 01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,000 Speaker 2: dot com the way tire buying should be. I will 1365 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:29,000 Speaker 2: say this, I actually really enjoy the draft. The draft 1366 01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:34,160 Speaker 2: has some aspects of the Olympics to it, which is 1367 01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:38,120 Speaker 2: to say that there is enough time for us to 1368 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:43,800 Speaker 2: get to know these people and some of their situation. 1369 01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,240 Speaker 2: As this whole thing unfolds, we get to go into 1370 01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:52,599 Speaker 2: their homes in certain cases and see them and see 1371 01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:56,040 Speaker 2: their family and the reaction and the tears and the hugs, 1372 01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:01,840 Speaker 2: and that's tremendous. It's great content. There's also the excitement 1373 01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,840 Speaker 2: the unknown, especially if you're a college football fan, you 1374 01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,519 Speaker 2: get to see where some of your favorite players end up. 1375 01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,000 Speaker 2: It's a little bit like Christmas or Honkikah. You're opening presents, 1376 01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,280 Speaker 2: you don't know what's in them, and then you open 1377 01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,759 Speaker 2: them up. But as I tried to remind people last week, 1378 01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,680 Speaker 2: it is very much like Christmas or Honkkah in that 1379 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:25,560 Speaker 2: there's presence waiting for you, but there's a fifty to 1380 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:31,040 Speaker 2: fifty shot you're gonna return what's in there. So I 1381 01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:36,559 Speaker 2: know it's exciting, but it's also filled with delusion, and 1382 01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:40,760 Speaker 2: so there's nothing I can do with the way my 1383 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:44,080 Speaker 2: brain works other than be amused by this. And I 1384 01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,960 Speaker 2: wonder if you if you feel the same way. 1385 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:53,240 Speaker 3: So the draft ends yesterday, and. 1386 01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,679 Speaker 2: I've got a big thread with all of my closest buddies, 1387 01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:01,960 Speaker 2: and one of them just last night at about dinner time, 1388 01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:07,640 Speaker 2: rights not very excited about our draft class. 1389 01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,320 Speaker 3: And then has the little yawn emoji. 1390 01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:17,639 Speaker 2: Now we're forty nine er fans, Not that that matters 1391 01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:22,599 Speaker 2: for almost every NFL fan this weekend was a list 1392 01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:27,759 Speaker 2: of somewhere between fifteen to twenty players, and you're lucky 1393 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,120 Speaker 2: if you've heard of one of them. 1394 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,719 Speaker 3: You're lucky if you've heard of one. 1395 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:39,200 Speaker 2: Of them, maybe two, and you've actually seen them play. 1396 01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:46,400 Speaker 2: So how am I to respond to just average Joe 1397 01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:52,040 Speaker 2: fan who goes, huh saw those nine names? 1398 01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:58,080 Speaker 3: Who yawn? What's the response there? 1399 01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,719 Speaker 4: The only response would be we got to wait and see. 1400 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:07,719 Speaker 4: That's it. That's the only response. 1401 01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:12,599 Speaker 3: I did appreciate Another one of my buddies who who who? 1402 01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:16,000 Speaker 2: Simply because the first the first one who text back 1403 01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,920 Speaker 2: and goes, I agree. 1404 01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,000 Speaker 3: And I'm just looking at this, I'm like, what are you? 1405 01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,840 Speaker 2: Did you want them to come to your house and 1406 01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:30,160 Speaker 2: introduce themselves to you? They they they picked up people 1407 01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:33,400 Speaker 2: at every position. What did you think this was gonna be? 1408 01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:36,360 Speaker 2: Did you think maybe you would know one of the 1409 01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:40,639 Speaker 2: people who they picked or like, so the third person 1410 01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:45,120 Speaker 2: the text goes, why don't we revisit this in three years? 1411 01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:50,360 Speaker 3: And I just wanted to stand up, and of course I. 1412 01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:54,000 Speaker 2: Mean, thank you, thank you for saying what what I 1413 01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:55,800 Speaker 2: wanted to say, so that I didn't have to say it. 1414 01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:03,360 Speaker 4: You don't You don't know, right like you, You don't 1415 01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,719 Speaker 4: know who's going to do what and how they'll develop 1416 01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:08,720 Speaker 4: and how they'll help you. 1417 01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:15,680 Speaker 3: And it's. 1418 01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:23,479 Speaker 4: Across the board every team, right you may be hopeful 1419 01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,759 Speaker 4: on the one name you do know normally the first 1420 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:28,800 Speaker 4: first round draft pick. 1421 01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:32,120 Speaker 3: I don't think the Niners had one. They did they 1422 01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,759 Speaker 3: did they? Okay, they took they took Ricky Piersoll. 1423 01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,479 Speaker 4: The uh, it's gonna be he's a good receiver that's 1424 01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:40,040 Speaker 4: fit in. 1425 01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,920 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's gonna that's that's that's a good pick 1426 01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,880 Speaker 3: by you guys. Well, but we don't. You don't know. 1427 01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,360 Speaker 3: You look what you know? Is he going to be that? 1428 01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:50,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1429 01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,680 Speaker 2: This is what's so funny is you'll talk about it 1430 01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,960 Speaker 2: and and in in pooh poohing the idea of knowing 1431 01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,760 Speaker 2: what's going on, we all fall into ooh, but but 1432 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:00,840 Speaker 2: I do you like that one? 1433 01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,640 Speaker 3: Now? You already told me that Roma Dune say that 1434 01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:07,879 Speaker 3: now he's gonna play. Yeah, he gonna play. I agree 1435 01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,080 Speaker 3: with you, but I also know I have no like. 1436 01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,120 Speaker 3: Do you know Rome, No? No? Do you know how 1437 01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:17,799 Speaker 3: he's wired? Nope? Is he built for this? Not sure? 1438 01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:28,040 Speaker 4: There you go, there you go, not sure, And none 1439 01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,360 Speaker 4: of us are right. We don't know how to think. 1440 01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,720 Speaker 4: We just went over there a little bit early on 1441 01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:36,240 Speaker 4: the show, we went over the five qbs that were 1442 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:40,040 Speaker 4: drafted what three years ago? Three years ago, and there's 1443 01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:45,880 Speaker 4: one viable quarterback left in that draft. 1444 01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,639 Speaker 2: Right, and one of the teams that had to dump 1445 01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:53,880 Speaker 2: the receiver of the quarterback they picked responded by getting 1446 01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:59,920 Speaker 2: someone as mister irrelevant the following year, and he's probably 1447 01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,800 Speaker 2: to make fifty million dollars in eleven months per year. 1448 01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:10,200 Speaker 3: What what? What? What do we know today that we 1449 01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,160 Speaker 3: didn't know on Thursday? 1450 01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:21,280 Speaker 4: We know where these kids are going to play. Thursday 1451 01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,960 Speaker 4: morning we woke up and outside of Caleb Williams, we 1452 01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,320 Speaker 4: didn't know anybody was gonna play. 1453 01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:29,200 Speaker 2: Now we do pretty good idea about where Jayden Daniels 1454 01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,559 Speaker 2: was gonna you know, pretty good idea, pretty decent idea 1455 01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:33,599 Speaker 2: about where Drake May. 1456 01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:38,000 Speaker 3: Was going to play. But but yeah, that that's that's 1457 01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:38,599 Speaker 3: about it. 1458 01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:45,400 Speaker 2: I'm looking at NFL Networks draft grades, and uh I 1459 01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:49,760 Speaker 2: am proud to pass along that every single team in 1460 01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:55,040 Speaker 2: the NFL got a C plus or better. I have 1461 01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,880 Speaker 2: taught a lot of classes in my day, and uh 1462 01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:03,960 Speaker 2: I long for the day when every student gets a 1463 01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,240 Speaker 2: C plus or better. That would be amazing. 1464 01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:12,080 Speaker 4: You're you're you're on fire in there, You're on fire. 1465 01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,479 Speaker 2: In fact, there's only two teams that got a C plus. 1466 01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:22,920 Speaker 2: Everybody else gotta be minus or better. God's NFL. You've 1467 01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,120 Speaker 2: all crushed it. You did it, y' all did it. 1468 01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,759 Speaker 3: Congratulations. I don't know what they did. We'll see. 1469 01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:33,360 Speaker 4: Man, this is the end of the season conversation. 1470 01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:37,000 Speaker 3: It's not even an end of it. It's the end 1471 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,320 Speaker 3: of two or three seasons. 1472 01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you get to conversation sh out of the 1473 01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:44,920 Speaker 4: guys who play, who were drafted this year. You get 1474 01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,040 Speaker 4: like pooking the cou. 1475 01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:50,320 Speaker 3: Right, Okay, let's talk about pooking the CoA. Right? 1476 01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,120 Speaker 4: You like when that what's happened? 1477 01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:52,360 Speaker 3: You like? 1478 01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:55,719 Speaker 4: Oh man, they had right. I don't know if anyone 1479 01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,400 Speaker 4: had ever heard of him before. 1480 01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,880 Speaker 3: Of course not. That's not an a that you hear 1481 01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:02,800 Speaker 3: once and then forget that's the name. 1482 01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,720 Speaker 2: The first time you hear it, I'm like, I'm gonna 1483 01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:06,040 Speaker 2: remember that one. 1484 01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:07,400 Speaker 3: Pukka. 1485 01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,680 Speaker 4: Like Mark Michael Parsons with his rookie year, we were like, 1486 01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:15,040 Speaker 4: oh when it was happening, you were like, okay, there's 1487 01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:15,800 Speaker 4: something there here. 1488 01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:16,760 Speaker 3: C J. 1489 01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:20,479 Speaker 4: Stroud, we were like, oh, all right, well we got 1490 01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:27,160 Speaker 4: something here. So during the season you'll be able to 1491 01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:35,040 Speaker 4: identify the special ones. Maybe no, you will. You will 1492 01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:38,559 Speaker 4: because it is tangible. It's now as tangible. 1493 01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:42,360 Speaker 3: But there are some guys who will pop too. In 1494 01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:43,200 Speaker 3: year two. 1495 01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:48,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm talking about you can start commenting on 1496 01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,960 Speaker 4: these some guys won't play, some guys, right, You can 1497 01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:58,160 Speaker 4: start the conversation now after you have a sample size. 1498 01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:02,200 Speaker 4: Like halfway through the the year, we were like this 1499 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,200 Speaker 4: kid poking the cool go to c J. Strau is 1500 01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:07,439 Speaker 4: like he's been in the league ten years. Like you 1501 01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:11,840 Speaker 4: start having these types of conversation and handing out halfway 1502 01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,000 Speaker 4: you know, through the year, grades and things like that. 1503 01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:26,719 Speaker 3: But until then, That's why I like the strangest thing. 1504 01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:31,960 Speaker 2: Is what I think at least most people do, because 1505 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,240 Speaker 2: at a certain point in every draft, especially now that 1506 01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:38,679 Speaker 2: it's three days, you go away. I think round one 1507 01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:44,880 Speaker 2: put up an amazing rating. Rounds two and three obviously lesser, 1508 01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,160 Speaker 2: but like, okay, you know, people kind of into it. 1509 01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,280 Speaker 2: I think by yesterday most people went on about their 1510 01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,800 Speaker 2: business and just heard about it later. Yes, that's probably 1511 01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:56,879 Speaker 2: the cadence for most NFL fans. 1512 01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:58,880 Speaker 3: And what we do is. 1513 01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:02,479 Speaker 2: We judge the draft by the little letters that are 1514 01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:07,200 Speaker 2: next to the player when we pick up uh, you know, 1515 01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:10,840 Speaker 2: we pick up a tablet or a phone or a laptop, 1516 01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,720 Speaker 2: and we'll look at, well, okay, let's see what my 1517 01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:17,559 Speaker 2: team did. Oh oh, they got a they got a 1518 01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:19,439 Speaker 2: corner back in the fifth round. 1519 01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:21,400 Speaker 3: I like that. 1520 01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,479 Speaker 2: I like that, all right, Yeah, we got a corner 1521 01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:29,120 Speaker 2: back in the fifth round. From ooh, in the sixth round, 1522 01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,599 Speaker 2: we took an we took an offensive tackle. That's good. 1523 01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:36,120 Speaker 2: We've got to fortify the offensive line. And so people 1524 01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:40,240 Speaker 2: will cruise around at a good draft because of little 1525 01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:44,040 Speaker 2: letters that are next to these people's name. You got 1526 01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:48,200 Speaker 2: no clue who these people are, absolutely none. 1527 01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,639 Speaker 3: So I'm here for the I'm here for the fun. 1528 01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:55,439 Speaker 2: I get that the pageantry of the whole thing has 1529 01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:59,000 Speaker 2: been expertly crafted by the NFL. 1530 01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:02,720 Speaker 4: You know what I'd like to I would like to know. Yeah, 1531 01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,160 Speaker 4: and maybe in the you know, about fifteen or so 1532 01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:08,479 Speaker 4: minutes when when we welcome our very own Steve, he 1533 01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:13,439 Speaker 4: can give us some insight in terms of viewership because 1534 01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:15,920 Speaker 4: the NBA games were on when the draft was on. 1535 01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:21,160 Speaker 3: Yes, so I'd like to to know you were watching 1536 01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,839 Speaker 3: the Lakers. You were watching the Lakers. 1537 01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:28,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was at the game. So yeah, so that's different, 1538 01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:32,400 Speaker 4: that's you know, but I would just like to know 1539 01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:36,639 Speaker 4: in terms of, you know, the Thursday Friday of the draft, 1540 01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:40,280 Speaker 4: how did that stack up against the NBA playoff games. 1541 01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:43,880 Speaker 2: I'd be very interesting to know. I do know the 1542 01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,360 Speaker 2: Thursday night. I can't tell you how it stacked up. 1543 01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:48,200 Speaker 2: I can tell you put up a very big number. 1544 01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:51,639 Speaker 4: Oh the draft, the draft, Oh yeah, put. 1545 01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:54,400 Speaker 3: Up a very charge. Yeah. 1546 01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,160 Speaker 4: Well pick at the NFL. The NFL, man, that's just 1547 01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:01,560 Speaker 4: what it is. Well, it's fun, it's drama. It's unfolding 1548 01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,439 Speaker 4: as we speak. We're going live to different rooms. We 1549 01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:07,799 Speaker 4: don't know what's gonna happen while there's a trade right. Plus, 1550 01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,919 Speaker 4: the first round is largely populated by players. 1551 01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,880 Speaker 3: We do we do know at least a thing or two. 1552 01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:17,800 Speaker 4: You know what I love. I love the old girlfriend. 1553 01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:22,040 Speaker 4: I love the old player's girlfriend who's trying to get 1554 01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,240 Speaker 4: some of the shine in the spotlight, and the over 1555 01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:28,400 Speaker 4: protective mother like back on up, now, girl, get on. 1556 01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:30,719 Speaker 3: Back now, this ain't about you. 1557 01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,840 Speaker 4: I mean I look forward to that every year, and 1558 01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,040 Speaker 4: we had a couple of those this year, man, and 1559 01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,120 Speaker 4: it is just hilarious. 1560 01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:42,639 Speaker 2: Cat was it Ceedee Lamb who who four years ago? 1561 01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:48,880 Speaker 2: The girl trying to grab an get your It's like, 1562 01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:51,280 Speaker 2: get my gas off my phone. 1563 01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:56,840 Speaker 4: Man, it's been, it's been been a bunch of I 1564 01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,000 Speaker 4: love that, man, Like that to me is funny. 1565 01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:01,040 Speaker 3: Those dynamics. 1566 01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:04,960 Speaker 2: Yes, that's why the whole thing is great. It's got 1567 01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:08,919 Speaker 2: the unknown twist turns. You're taking us inside people's homes. 1568 01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:12,599 Speaker 2: We're getting to know people. Teams are moving and shaking 1569 01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:17,320 Speaker 2: and doing surprise things like that's what you're actually watching 1570 01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:21,840 Speaker 2: And I'm here for that. I just think it's really funny. Anybody, 1571 01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:24,599 Speaker 2: if you're an expert or not, I don't care if 1572 01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:29,000 Speaker 2: you've got a draft book. It's hysterical that you show 1573 01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,280 Speaker 2: up this morning and you're like, so, here's everybody dead. 1574 01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:35,240 Speaker 3: We think, I'm like, what are you talking about. 1575 01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:38,720 Speaker 4: I think it's just based on need, right, like you 1576 01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,800 Speaker 4: don't know, you don't know what, Doug. It's based on need. 1577 01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,280 Speaker 4: Like the Raiders used to fill the draft because they 1578 01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:47,600 Speaker 4: wouldn't draft on need. They draft speed. Right, They're just 1579 01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:50,479 Speaker 4: like sod. They just like he's fast. To get him. 1580 01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,360 Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, but you didn't need him, you needed. 1581 01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:55,839 Speaker 3: This and he's not good by the way, right. 1582 01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:59,479 Speaker 4: So that I think that's what the grades are about, 1583 01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,439 Speaker 4: in terms of addressing your knee. Now, whether that knee 1584 01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:07,680 Speaker 4: can be filled or fulfilled with the player, that's a 1585 01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:08,640 Speaker 4: different conversation. 1586 01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,479 Speaker 2: I think a lot of these people are also going 1587 01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,639 Speaker 2: I like, like I like this guy. 1588 01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:15,360 Speaker 3: I don't like that guy. That was a read. 1589 01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:17,160 Speaker 2: You took him in the fourth, You could have got 1590 01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,400 Speaker 2: him in the fifth. All of that stuff, which I 1591 01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:23,880 Speaker 2: think is just crazy. I think, like, go get your guy, 1592 01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:27,680 Speaker 2: Go get your guy. I don't care if you took 1593 01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:32,760 Speaker 2: him in the second. And somebody, man, it's like one 1594 01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:33,759 Speaker 2: big dating app. 1595 01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:37,400 Speaker 4: There you go, right, you don't know, you swipe r 1596 01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:41,320 Speaker 4: You didn't know you you know, swiped into a toxic 1597 01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:42,719 Speaker 4: relationship ship. 1598 01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:46,479 Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh my god. Well our draft grades 1599 01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,880 Speaker 2: are coming up next. I'm kidding. Shortly after the show, 1600 01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:52,840 Speaker 2: podcasts is going to be going up. 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I'm 1608 01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:16,880 Speaker 2: Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio Live, tyrack dot com Studios, 1609 01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:21,360 Speaker 2: Mark Willardy from salam All knotted up at thirty seven 1610 01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:24,439 Speaker 2: right now between the Suns and the Wolves, about halfway 1611 01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:25,439 Speaker 2: through the second quarter. 1612 01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:30,679 Speaker 3: What's your read on the Suns this year? I think. 1613 01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:38,960 Speaker 4: I think they gave away a lot of their defensive 1614 01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:48,080 Speaker 4: intensity on the wings. I think when you go to 1615 01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:56,280 Speaker 4: a a three score mentality, a type of deep type 1616 01:36:56,280 --> 01:37:04,680 Speaker 4: of offense, our type of team, it's difficult to in 1617 01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:08,280 Speaker 4: a series to play the type of defense you need 1618 01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:15,880 Speaker 4: to win because the onus on Booker, Durant and Bill 1619 01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:19,960 Speaker 4: being on offensively it's too much, and it's hard for 1620 01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:25,040 Speaker 4: all three to be on because there's not enough balls 1621 01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:25,679 Speaker 4: to go around. 1622 01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:26,280 Speaker 3: To be on. 1623 01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:32,439 Speaker 4: I think that's why the Clippers play better and have 1624 01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:36,680 Speaker 4: been playing better this playoffs without Kawhi. And because if 1625 01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:38,599 Speaker 4: we watched you watch that game and watch the first 1626 01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:42,120 Speaker 4: game coming down, it was either PG or it was. 1627 01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:46,320 Speaker 3: Harding. 1628 01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:54,599 Speaker 4: But game two, Okay, we're gonna go through Kawhi, and 1629 01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:58,240 Speaker 4: it just kind of slowed things down when you look 1630 01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:02,679 Speaker 4: at Dallas and and it's either Kyrie like Lucas starts 1631 01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,640 Speaker 4: it out always. The reason they got back into that 1632 01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,599 Speaker 4: game was because Kyrie went bonkers in the second half. 1633 01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:18,160 Speaker 4: What if you have to appiece a third score, that's 1634 01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:21,120 Speaker 4: a difficult task and it throws things off a little bit. 1635 01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:25,280 Speaker 4: And so I think when they got Bradley Beal, I 1636 01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:28,200 Speaker 4: think it put the Suns in that situation. Plus what 1637 01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,880 Speaker 4: they gave up, they gave up their their their their 1638 01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:35,400 Speaker 4: wing defenders. Uh they're three and D guys as I 1639 01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:39,040 Speaker 4: like to to to call them. And so it's it's 1640 01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:43,920 Speaker 4: it's just a difficult thing to overcome in a year. 1641 01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:47,240 Speaker 3: I get that. 1642 01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:53,479 Speaker 2: I also think that things happen really really fast in 1643 01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:58,680 Speaker 2: the world of roster construction in the NBA, and the 1644 01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:04,360 Speaker 2: Suns feel like a team that built themselves based on 1645 01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:07,280 Speaker 2: what was happening a decade ago in the NBA. 1646 01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:10,360 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's not happening. 1647 01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:13,600 Speaker 4: No, no, no, you can't. That's not the recipe anymore. 1648 01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:16,679 Speaker 2: Right, You're not just hey, let's grab three really cool 1649 01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:21,000 Speaker 2: players and we're going to overwhelm everybody. The examples of 1650 01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:26,760 Speaker 2: that are are quite frankly, I think they're fake for 1651 01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:28,680 Speaker 2: the most part. In other words, if people want to 1652 01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:31,360 Speaker 2: look at the Miami Heat and go, well, Bosh, Wade 1653 01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:35,280 Speaker 2: and Lebron, Sure, but did you notice the way they 1654 01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:36,759 Speaker 2: filled in the rest of the roster. 1655 01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:42,400 Speaker 4: But even in that sense, two of those twenty five 1656 01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:47,720 Speaker 4: twenty seven point a night players took a back seat 1657 01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:48,759 Speaker 4: to Lebron. 1658 01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:49,519 Speaker 3: Worst. 1659 01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:53,280 Speaker 4: Bosh was no longer Chris Bosh was a once. Absolutely 1660 01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:57,000 Speaker 4: the offense ran through Chris Bosh. Now he was a rebounder, 1661 01:39:57,400 --> 01:39:59,480 Speaker 4: it was a role player and a rim protector. 1662 01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:01,200 Speaker 3: Yep. Absolutely. 1663 01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:04,200 Speaker 2: But if you look at what's succeeding in the NBA 1664 01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:07,559 Speaker 2: right now, I know that you have to have a 1665 01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,799 Speaker 2: second and a third and a fourth like good player 1666 01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:16,240 Speaker 2: Like I totally get Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Junior 1667 01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:17,000 Speaker 2: and Aaron Gordon. 1668 01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:20,240 Speaker 3: I understand, but that's not a big three or a 1669 01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:20,800 Speaker 3: big four. 1670 01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:25,639 Speaker 2: No, it's not that we've gone back and I love 1671 01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:29,120 Speaker 2: this about where the NBA is right now. We've gone 1672 01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:36,120 Speaker 2: back to continuity. We've gone back to fit, We've gone 1673 01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:40,519 Speaker 2: back to smarts, Like basketball has got. 1674 01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:41,040 Speaker 3: To be smart. 1675 01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:43,680 Speaker 2: And even for instance, when the Warriors were at the 1676 01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:47,240 Speaker 2: height of their powers six, seven, eight years ago, what 1677 01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:51,759 Speaker 2: people never understood about those teams. Sure, they were overwhelming everyone, 1678 01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:54,120 Speaker 2: they had the best players, but they were one of 1679 01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:56,519 Speaker 2: the top defensive teams and they were one of the 1680 01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:58,040 Speaker 2: best ball movement teams. 1681 01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:01,040 Speaker 3: You look at what the Nuggets and the Celtics are doing. 1682 01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:05,719 Speaker 2: Now, Yeah there's a one, there's a two, and maybe 1683 01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:11,080 Speaker 2: a three, and then there's just smarts. There's smart stuff 1684 01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:15,040 Speaker 2: happening all over the floor. And the Phoenix Suns. I 1685 01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,240 Speaker 2: want to be very careful here. I'm not saying this 1686 01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:21,360 Speaker 2: about any of the people on the roster, but they 1687 01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:24,200 Speaker 2: are constructed in a very dumb way. 1688 01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:29,200 Speaker 4: I would agree with that. I would agree with that. 1689 01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:34,200 Speaker 4: Now you get your offensive firepower, but then that's it, though, 1690 01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:37,559 Speaker 4: that's it, And they are running into a team that 1691 01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:42,960 Speaker 4: has been constructed from the inside out. All Right, you 1692 01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:47,640 Speaker 4: got Minnesota with possibly the Defensive. 1693 01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:47,880 Speaker 3: Player of the Year. 1694 01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:53,720 Speaker 4: You have another big who's a stretch four, and you 1695 01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:57,160 Speaker 4: have one of the most dynamic players in the league, 1696 01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:05,080 Speaker 4: and Anthony Edwards, and then you got uh Dyalen Daniels 1697 01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:06,920 Speaker 4: who's a who's the three and D guy. 1698 01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:08,719 Speaker 3: And and nas Reed never missed. 1699 01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:12,120 Speaker 4: He comes off the bench and I mean he's he's 1700 01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:13,200 Speaker 4: probably gonna be the sixth. 1701 01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:13,599 Speaker 3: Minute of the year. 1702 01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:18,040 Speaker 4: He and you have Mike Connelly as the floor general. 1703 01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:24,519 Speaker 4: That's why you construct the team like there's depth there. 1704 01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:31,479 Speaker 4: And when the bench players come in, when slow Mo 1705 01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:36,599 Speaker 4: comes in, Kyle Anderson, he's just doing his thing, moving 1706 01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:42,320 Speaker 4: at his own speed. Guys know their roles and that's 1707 01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:46,360 Speaker 4: that's a comfort level. When guys know their role. WHOA, 1708 01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:54,360 Speaker 4: when guys know their role, that's a comfort level. So 1709 01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:58,400 Speaker 4: it's it's one of those situations where you know it 1710 01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:03,400 Speaker 4: this is a bad matchup for them, But I would 1711 01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:05,599 Speaker 4: think anybody in the West would be a bad matchup 1712 01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:12,599 Speaker 4: for him. They're not gonna overpower anybody with their size. 1713 01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:16,960 Speaker 4: And yeah, they got big Nurkice in there, and you 1714 01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:22,759 Speaker 4: know he's trying, you know, but you're going against two bigs, 1715 01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:26,200 Speaker 4: one specializing and shot blocking and the other one was 1716 01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:28,360 Speaker 4: gonna pull you all the way out away from the 1717 01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:33,559 Speaker 4: basket to nullify your ability to rebound. There's a science 1718 01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:39,479 Speaker 4: to this, right, when Rudy goes to the bench and 1719 01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:45,599 Speaker 4: Nurkic has to come out and guard Carl Anthony, you 1720 01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:49,360 Speaker 4: take him out of the ability to rebound. So the 1721 01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:54,000 Speaker 4: Sons are constantly being out rebounded. Right, It's chess, not checkers. 1722 01:43:57,080 --> 01:44:00,120 Speaker 4: So you know, it's one thing to construct the team 1723 01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:03,879 Speaker 4: with popping pizzazz and headlines, but it's another to construct 1724 01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:05,760 Speaker 4: a team. 1725 01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:06,720 Speaker 3: It's tangible. 1726 01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:11,760 Speaker 2: Our team, i'd like to think has been constructed. Well, 1727 01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:13,519 Speaker 2: it was the last one of the night, so there's 1728 01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:15,479 Speaker 2: no way in hell I'm doing this. This is your 1729 01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:16,679 Speaker 2: your runway. 1730 01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:18,799 Speaker 4: I mean, when when you talk about putting a team together, 1731 01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:21,400 Speaker 4: you got to start with with the with the guy 1732 01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:24,559 Speaker 4: who's the glue You ever heard of coach to say 1733 01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:25,559 Speaker 4: he's our glue guy. 1734 01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:28,000 Speaker 3: Of course, Derrin Fisher used to be a glue guy. 1735 01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:29,120 Speaker 3: Well that's exactly the right. 1736 01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:31,479 Speaker 4: We have a glue guy on our team and that's 1737 01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:34,000 Speaker 4: one Stephen g de Sega. 1738 01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,120 Speaker 7: Good evening, once again, gentlemen, we have an update from 1739 01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:40,000 Speaker 7: the NBA playoff game the action at Phoenix has the 1740 01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:43,320 Speaker 7: Suns leading forty two to forty one over the Timberwolves. 1741 01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:45,479 Speaker 7: We got five minutes to go in the second quarter. 1742 01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:48,439 Speaker 7: Three seed in the West, Minnesota is up three games 1743 01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:51,400 Speaker 7: to none in this first round series. The Clippers blew 1744 01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:54,240 Speaker 7: a thirty one point first half lead, but still one 1745 01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:57,920 Speaker 7: at Dallas today one sixteen to one eleven. That series 1746 01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:00,240 Speaker 7: tied at two games apiece. By the way, Okale Alma 1747 01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:03,479 Speaker 7: Citi's Mark Dagnault was named the NBA Coach of the Year. 1748 01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:06,000 Speaker 7: He's thirty nine years old. He had been Okase's G 1749 01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:08,840 Speaker 7: league coach for five years in the past. New York 1750 01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:11,400 Speaker 7: Knicks are two seed in the East. They won at 1751 01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:14,479 Speaker 7: Philadelphia in front of the home crowd question mark ninety 1752 01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:18,600 Speaker 7: seven to ninety two the final Jalen Brunson forty seven points, 1753 01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:23,160 Speaker 7: ten assists, one turnover. Nicks lead the series three games 1754 01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:26,679 Speaker 7: to one. Josh Hart was ozh of seven shooting from 1755 01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:31,479 Speaker 7: the floor, but still seventeen rebounds in this game. 1756 01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:34,160 Speaker 3: Everywhere he was everywhere. 1757 01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:37,280 Speaker 7: He keeps putting up numbers like this. In fact, this 1758 01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:39,960 Speaker 7: is the most rebounds by a Knicks guard in a 1759 01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:43,719 Speaker 7: playoff game. The previous record held by Walt Fraser himself 1760 01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:48,320 Speaker 7: from nineteen seventy sixteen in a playoff game, and Indiana 1761 01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:51,000 Speaker 7: beat Milwaukee tonight to go up three games to one, 1762 01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:54,120 Speaker 7: one twenty six one thirteen center Miles Turner of the 1763 01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:57,479 Speaker 7: Pacers twenty nine points. Giannis Antenakoupo was out again with 1764 01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:59,800 Speaker 7: the straining caff, Damian Lillard of the Bucks out with 1765 01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:02,360 Speaker 7: a strained achilles, and Bobby Portis was kicked out of 1766 01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:05,720 Speaker 7: the game. Early in the NHL playoffs, Colorado five to 1767 01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:08,880 Speaker 7: one over Winnipeg. Vancouver came back for an overtime win 1768 01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:12,000 Speaker 7: at Nashville four to three, and currently the number one 1769 01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:14,439 Speaker 7: New York Rangers lead with four minutes to go at 1770 01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:17,360 Speaker 7: Washington three to two. The late game starts in just 1771 01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:20,840 Speaker 7: a couple minutes, with La hosting Edmonton. Denny Hamlin took 1772 01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:23,559 Speaker 7: the NASCAR Race at Dover his third win of the season. 1773 01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:27,240 Speaker 7: Kyle Larson finished second in baseball at Boston tonight with 1774 01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:29,280 Speaker 7: a run bottom of the ninth. The Red Sox beat 1775 01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:32,599 Speaker 7: the Cubs five to four. Houston beat Colorado again in 1776 01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:36,080 Speaker 7: Mexico City, eight to two. Minnesota has won seven in 1777 01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:38,960 Speaker 7: a row and eleven to five victory at the Angels 1778 01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,320 Speaker 7: Oakland with a two run home or top of the 1779 01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:43,920 Speaker 7: ninth won at Baltimore seven to six, the loss to 1780 01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:47,920 Speaker 7: closer Craig Kimbrel. In ten innings, Atlanta edge Cleveland four 1781 01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:50,559 Speaker 7: to three. The Mets, on an eleventh inning home run, 1782 01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:54,479 Speaker 7: beat Saint Louis four to two. Washington trailed seven nothing 1783 01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:57,519 Speaker 7: in the second inning, but they were playing Miami, so 1784 01:46:57,560 --> 01:46:59,799 Speaker 7: they came back to win twelve to nine. The Marlins 1785 01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:03,479 Speaker 7: lost six in a row. And yes, there was golf 1786 01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:08,559 Speaker 7: this weekend team event in New Orleans. Live Golf tournament 1787 01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:12,960 Speaker 7: in Australia. Come to find out, the PGA Tour has 1788 01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:18,000 Speaker 7: this loan official team event, Zurich Classic of New Orleans. 1789 01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:20,920 Speaker 7: Every year it's eighty two man teams, so one hundred 1790 01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:26,080 Speaker 7: and sixty players competing. The Thursday Saturday is four bowl 1791 01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:29,839 Speaker 7: format best Bowl and then the Friday Sunday is alternate 1792 01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:32,760 Speaker 7: shot in force. So we have the winner of the 1793 01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:37,000 Speaker 7: team event in a playoff, Rory McElroy and Shane Lowry. 1794 01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:40,439 Speaker 7: The winners earned just under one point three million dollars each. 1795 01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:45,320 Speaker 7: Every Live Golf winner gets four million dollars plus any 1796 01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:48,280 Speaker 7: money your team earned for the weekend So, for example, 1797 01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:51,160 Speaker 7: Brendan Steele in Australia, a guy who hasn't had a 1798 01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:54,400 Speaker 7: victory anywhere in seven years, won the Lift Golf event 1799 01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:58,200 Speaker 7: and takes home four million dollars plus good lord wins 1800 01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:01,240 Speaker 7: by one stroke over Louis Houston and live golfs in 1801 01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:03,840 Speaker 7: Singapore next weekend, but then it has a month long 1802 01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:07,960 Speaker 7: break on its quote tour. The third place check at 1803 01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:11,839 Speaker 7: the PGA event by comparison, third place in New Orleans 1804 01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:15,400 Speaker 7: about three hundred forty thousand dollars, a tie for third 1805 01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:19,040 Speaker 7: at the live tourney got nine hundred twenty thousand dollars, 1806 01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:22,960 Speaker 7: and final comparison on the PGA event in New Orleans 1807 01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:28,080 Speaker 7: a tie for nineteenth thirty seven thousand dollars. Last place 1808 01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:31,760 Speaker 7: in live golf gets fifty thousand dollars. Fifty fourth and 1809 01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:35,120 Speaker 7: dead last. Anthony Kim, a guy who, well, let's put 1810 01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:37,760 Speaker 7: it this way, the winner of the live event was 1811 01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:42,280 Speaker 7: eighteen under par. Anthony Kim was six overpar and got 1812 01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:45,360 Speaker 7: fifty thousand dollars for three three days. 1813 01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:47,720 Speaker 3: Of golf, twenty four shots off the list, and. 1814 01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:50,320 Speaker 7: I'm sure a nice, nice trip to Australia and no 1815 01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:54,759 Speaker 7: doubt onto Singapore as well, back to you, good lord, 1816 01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:56,280 Speaker 7: where's this going? 1817 01:48:56,360 --> 01:49:00,200 Speaker 2: By the way, while we got like two minutes on it, this, yeah, 1818 01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:02,760 Speaker 2: we're not doing this for the rest of days. 1819 01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:05,680 Speaker 7: It is a fairly endless bag of money. 1820 01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:11,839 Speaker 2: Though, right right, But with like professional golf, eventual golfers 1821 01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:13,920 Speaker 2: are going to be like, wait a minute, what am 1822 01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:14,559 Speaker 2: I doing here? 1823 01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:15,599 Speaker 3: What am I doing? 1824 01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:20,400 Speaker 2: Well, but you're watching the PGA Tour is really starting 1825 01:49:20,439 --> 01:49:23,400 Speaker 2: to now concede a lot. 1826 01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:26,360 Speaker 4: Yes, well, yeah, because they don't control the majors, so 1827 01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:28,000 Speaker 4: you can live in majors. 1828 01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:29,000 Speaker 3: So it's going to. 1829 01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:33,360 Speaker 4: Be like, well, right, let me go play one less day, 1830 01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:37,800 Speaker 4: make three times the amount sometimes and. 1831 01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:40,920 Speaker 3: Just keep it moving. 1832 01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:43,920 Speaker 7: It's a little like the NCAA not controlling the college 1833 01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:46,920 Speaker 7: football playoffs and then the conferences can do what they 1834 01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:48,920 Speaker 7: want and the playoffs make all the money. And by 1835 01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:50,440 Speaker 7: the way, they're still an NCAA. 1836 01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:54,040 Speaker 2: That's where we're And you could laugh at these guys. 1837 01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:57,080 Speaker 2: Tiger and Rory are are the two faces of it. 1838 01:49:57,120 --> 01:50:01,960 Speaker 2: But I believe that they believe Eve that they're going 1839 01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:05,920 Speaker 2: to win out in the end by being compensated in 1840 01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:09,639 Speaker 2: all kinds of new ways by the PGA Tour and 1841 01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:13,800 Speaker 2: then being lauded as those those who decided to. 1842 01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:16,599 Speaker 3: Stay and and there will. 1843 01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:20,600 Speaker 2: Be some sort of penalty, if you will, for the 1844 01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:23,920 Speaker 2: guys who went live when they want to come back, 1845 01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:27,000 Speaker 2: if there is some sort of a merger. I don't 1846 01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:28,920 Speaker 2: know if they're right, but I think that that's what 1847 01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:29,479 Speaker 2: they think. 1848 01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:33,160 Speaker 7: So it's going to be like the businessman who robs 1849 01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:36,040 Speaker 7: for three million dollars and is fined a million dollars. 1850 01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:37,760 Speaker 4: Mm. 1851 01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:41,640 Speaker 2: Probably yeah. I mean, I mean, what, Steve, you may 1852 01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:43,240 Speaker 2: know this off the top of your head. What did 1853 01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:44,760 Speaker 2: DJ get to go over there? 1854 01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:47,320 Speaker 7: Oh? Well, weren't they all just reports? 1855 01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:53,439 Speaker 2: Sure, but I think they're pretty correct. 1856 01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:55,759 Speaker 3: Dustin Johnson, maybe one hundred and fifty million. 1857 01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:03,160 Speaker 2: It's just astounding, and so sure find me. 1858 01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:07,160 Speaker 7: That's in addition to actual winnings. It was thirty five 1859 01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:08,479 Speaker 7: million the first half a year. 1860 01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:12,160 Speaker 2: Correct, that was that was just to go And that's 1861 01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:14,680 Speaker 2: you saw that announcement last week the PGA Tour is 1862 01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:15,280 Speaker 2: going to start. 1863 01:51:15,479 --> 01:51:17,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, there were the nine figure stories. 1864 01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:20,920 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, yeah, I mean, like, oh, no doubt. 1865 01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:23,800 Speaker 2: And then there's the the PGA Tour is going to 1866 01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:28,679 Speaker 2: start giving out what amounts to appearance fees, which quite 1867 01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:31,000 Speaker 2: frankly I think that's what this was really, if I 1868 01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,960 Speaker 2: really want to whittle it down, that's what this was 1869 01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:37,400 Speaker 2: based on. Is there's no sport in the world that 1870 01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:40,360 Speaker 2: doesn't pay their people to show up when they're the 1871 01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:47,240 Speaker 2: draw track. And yeah right, so, uh pucat, I wonder 1872 01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:49,640 Speaker 2: where it's all going. We're not going to just do 1873 01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:50,680 Speaker 2: this forever. 1874 01:51:51,160 --> 01:51:53,400 Speaker 7: Except the w NBA. By the way, there's no such 1875 01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:54,639 Speaker 7: thing as an appearance fee. 1876 01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:55,120 Speaker 1: We know who. 1877 01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:58,920 Speaker 3: Ciche? Yeah what Steve? 1878 01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:06,200 Speaker 4: Who won the ratings last week between the NBA playoffs 1879 01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:09,920 Speaker 4: and the NFL Draft. Do you know what those numbers are? 1880 01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:12,240 Speaker 7: Well, in that the draft, we only know the first 1881 01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:15,599 Speaker 7: round of the draft because the whole weekend, you know, 1882 01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:17,240 Speaker 7: they don't give ratings out up. 1883 01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:20,040 Speaker 3: What was that number on Thursday? 1884 01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:24,040 Speaker 7: It was not like baffo as they say in the business. 1885 01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:26,479 Speaker 7: It was like eleven million if you add up all 1886 01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:28,840 Speaker 7: the channels for the first round of the NFL Draft. 1887 01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:31,280 Speaker 7: So's it's great compared to anything in TV. 1888 01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:38,720 Speaker 4: Okay, still got a stranglehole on the thing. 1889 01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:44,280 Speaker 2: All right, coming up next, we're gonna put a little 1890 01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:48,000 Speaker 2: ball on this. 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All right, it's Mark Willer to 1898 01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:19,600 Speaker 2: Need from Salam ty Req dot Com Studios. 1899 01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:22,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I meant what I said. 1900 01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:24,240 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit here and tell you I know 1901 01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:27,720 Speaker 2: what these quarterbacks are gonna do. I will tell you 1902 01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:31,519 Speaker 2: this though, take the names out of it and you 1903 01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:35,040 Speaker 2: can find some information. So there were six quarterbacks taken 1904 01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:38,040 Speaker 2: in the first twelve picks. Let me say that I 1905 01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:43,080 Speaker 2: can there were six qbs that went in the first 1906 01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:49,640 Speaker 2: twelve picks. I know people who obviously think Caleb Williams 1907 01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:52,439 Speaker 2: or Jaden Daniels best one out there. I know people 1908 01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:55,439 Speaker 2: who think it's Michael Pennix. I think that there's something 1909 01:53:55,479 --> 01:53:59,479 Speaker 2: to be said for UH players who have had a 1910 01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:02,439 Speaker 2: lot of in college. I think that's on the rise. 1911 01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:04,880 Speaker 2: I think teams that are able to kind of tuck 1912 01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:09,519 Speaker 2: guys away and also be in a good offensive system. 1913 01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:13,400 Speaker 2: Something to be said for that, but of all six 1914 01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:16,120 Speaker 2: of these quarterbacks e from it. It has nothing to 1915 01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:19,320 Speaker 2: do with my evaluation of the player. Do you want 1916 01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:22,240 Speaker 2: to know who I think has the best chance to 1917 01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:29,040 Speaker 2: show something that's going to matter and have the quickest 1918 01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:34,040 Speaker 2: start to the NFL career. I would pick JJ McCarthy, 1919 01:54:34,480 --> 01:54:38,920 Speaker 2: And it has nothing to do with JJ McCarthy. It 1920 01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:41,280 Speaker 2: has everything to do with the fact that he's going 1921 01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:44,920 Speaker 2: to be with O'Connell, who is a very good offensive mind. 1922 01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:46,960 Speaker 2: It has to do with the fact that if you 1923 01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:51,840 Speaker 2: do things right, you do things right with that contract. 1924 01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:58,240 Speaker 2: You're going to have Justin Jefferson on one side, and 1925 01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:02,520 Speaker 2: the young receivers who came up through that system, Jordan 1926 01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:04,840 Speaker 2: Addison on the other side. 1927 01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:08,120 Speaker 3: Like, that's just a healthy situation. 1928 01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:12,840 Speaker 2: And you also have Sam Darnold, who I would bet 1929 01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:15,680 Speaker 2: is going to start the year as the quarterback, and 1930 01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:21,240 Speaker 2: it allows everybody to ease in to a situation and 1931 01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:24,520 Speaker 2: play good football. That's the way that I look at 1932 01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:26,960 Speaker 2: this stuff. I don't look at why I saw them 1933 01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:32,520 Speaker 2: play Ohio State and great ball skills and plus arm 1934 01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:37,800 Speaker 2: like whatever, Man, these kids can all play football. The 1935 01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:41,680 Speaker 2: first round draft picks for crying out loud, But what's 1936 01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:45,560 Speaker 2: going on between the ears where they got drafted, who 1937 01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:46,680 Speaker 2: puts them under their wing? 1938 01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:49,440 Speaker 3: What's their accessibility to good play? 1939 01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:52,800 Speaker 2: That's what I think is especially for quarterbacks, is gonna 1940 01:55:53,120 --> 01:55:55,640 Speaker 2: is gonna bring someone to a fast start? 1941 01:55:55,880 --> 01:55:59,280 Speaker 4: Well yeah, and situation is everything. If you can get 1942 01:55:59,400 --> 01:56:02,960 Speaker 4: as a young quarquarterback, get to a situation where the 1943 01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:06,640 Speaker 4: world isn't on your shoulders when you're just trying to 1944 01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:10,480 Speaker 4: figure out how to get to the complex on time, 1945 01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:18,800 Speaker 4: where to live, I think it's conducive to being successful, 1946 01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:23,760 Speaker 4: having a successful career. But when you come in and 1947 01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:26,960 Speaker 4: you step in from day one, they're saying, Hey, the 1948 01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:29,640 Speaker 4: world's on fire, here's a garden host. 1949 01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:35,320 Speaker 3: That's a lot to ask. That's a lot to ask. 1950 01:56:36,240 --> 01:56:37,160 Speaker 3: And I think. 1951 01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:45,440 Speaker 4: Having a structure, having a foundation, a culture where you 1952 01:56:45,480 --> 01:56:48,400 Speaker 4: can bring a young player in. Look at the young 1953 01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:53,440 Speaker 4: the young quarterbacks who walked into a culture. 1954 01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:56,960 Speaker 3: And have had success. 1955 01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:01,800 Speaker 4: Right when you look at Patrick Mahomes and and that 1956 01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:07,600 Speaker 4: Andy Reid culture, and you look at uh, you know, 1957 01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:12,240 Speaker 4: the funny thing is the outlier which kinds of throw 1958 01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:16,080 Speaker 4: throws things off. Is how Damiko Ryan was able to 1959 01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:18,920 Speaker 4: create that culture at at a place where there was 1960 01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:23,000 Speaker 4: now it was, it was. That's that's when you get 1961 01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:25,480 Speaker 4: it right, when you can get the coach that can 1962 01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:29,440 Speaker 4: set that tone immediately and then you get the right 1963 01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:32,720 Speaker 4: guy to come in and echo that and build that. 1964 01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:36,600 Speaker 4: But you look at Jordan Love and going to Green Bay, 1965 01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:40,080 Speaker 4: there was a culture set there, and now you have 1966 01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:48,960 Speaker 4: a situation where you know, in Minnesota JJ McCarthy come 1967 01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:52,640 Speaker 4: from a strong culture and a strong minded coach, and 1968 01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:55,879 Speaker 4: you come into a team that has a set culture 1969 01:57:56,040 --> 01:58:02,960 Speaker 4: and and and and has an appetite for Yeah, he's 1970 01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:04,800 Speaker 4: going to benefit greatly from that. 1971 01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:07,360 Speaker 3: Yep, greatly. 1972 01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:12,200 Speaker 2: I mean I look at Pennix and the likelihood is 1973 01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:14,680 Speaker 2: he's not going to be asked to even really play 1974 01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:18,000 Speaker 2: or carry the load this year. The top three guys 1975 01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:22,960 Speaker 2: are and they're all on really bad football teams and 1976 01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:26,800 Speaker 2: situational We'll see kind of how that plays out. I 1977 01:58:26,840 --> 01:58:30,800 Speaker 2: know you like what's around Caleb in Chicago, and I 1978 01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:34,600 Speaker 2: tend to agree with you. I also know that I'm 1979 01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:36,920 Speaker 2: just sort of used to that. I'm conditioned the Bear's 1980 01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:40,600 Speaker 2: quarterback struggles. That's just how it works. I've been alive 1981 01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:42,880 Speaker 2: for forty nine years. It's never not been the case. 1982 01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:46,520 Speaker 3: So maybe this is it. Maybe this is it for 1983 01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:47,360 Speaker 3: crying out loud. 1984 01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:50,560 Speaker 2: Bow Nicks is interesting, but they're probably you know, look 1985 01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:53,760 Speaker 2: at that quarterback room. Jared Stidham is there, Zach Wilson 1986 01:58:53,800 --> 01:58:57,520 Speaker 2: is there. There's a lot of chaos, yeah, going on there, 1987 01:58:57,600 --> 01:58:59,400 Speaker 2: and there's going to be a lot asked of him 1988 01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:03,200 Speaker 2: right away. JJ McCarthy's the one who has a chance 1989 01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:06,920 Speaker 2: to actually both play this year, but do so without 1990 01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:09,760 Speaker 2: being surrounded by chaos and pressure. 1991 01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1992 01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:14,400 Speaker 4: And and look, this thing is gonna play on three years. 1993 01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:17,640 Speaker 4: We'll be having this conversation just like we talked about yep, 1994 01:59:17,960 --> 01:59:21,160 Speaker 4: the Trevor Trevor Lawrence draft and where those guys are now. 1995 01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:25,240 Speaker 4: It's going to be extremely interesting just in three short 1996 01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:27,680 Speaker 4: years to find out how this thing really shook out 1997 01:59:27,760 --> 01:59:30,360 Speaker 4: and if we were right, which I pretty. 1998 01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:32,600 Speaker 2: Much think we are, But I don't even know what 1999 01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:36,120 Speaker 2: we're saying. What do we right about? I know you like, 2000 01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:40,080 Speaker 2: I know you like Caleb. I do like cam Yeah, 2001 01:59:40,160 --> 01:59:40,800 Speaker 2: I do like Cale. 2002 01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:43,600 Speaker 4: I like calab because I like what the Bears are 2003 01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:46,040 Speaker 4: trying to do around him. They didn't do that with 2004 01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:48,680 Speaker 4: Justin Fields right right, And. 2005 01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:52,720 Speaker 2: I mean I like all the players. I like Poe Nicks, 2006 01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:58,560 Speaker 2: I like Michael Pennix. Not the good football players. But boy, 2007 01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:01,040 Speaker 2: there's a lot more that goes into that cocktail before 2008 02:00:01,040 --> 02:00:01,720 Speaker 2: it tastes good. 2009 02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:03,200 Speaker 3: I do know that. 2010 02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:08,040 Speaker 2: Good to be with you tonight always, brother. We'll do 2011 02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:09,600 Speaker 2: it again. We'll do it again real soon. 2012 02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:11,360 Speaker 4: Hopefully Lake is still planning next week. 2013 02:00:11,880 --> 02:00:15,480 Speaker 2: Come on now, let's not be crazy. I can dream, 2014 02:00:15,480 --> 02:00:18,200 Speaker 2: plank and span your more crazy thoughts next