Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect
Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and his Drink Has motherfucking podcast.
Speaker 1: He's a legendary queen's rapper. Secre is your boy in
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Speaker 1: it should be. This is your boy and right what
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Speaker 1: Yeppy makes up? Right now? This brother that's here, we
Speaker 1: want to be very very clear. This brother deserved to
Speaker 1: be here. This brother um was invited here way before
Speaker 1: this other interview. So I don't want people to I
Speaker 1: don't want people to feel like, yeah, yeah, so I
Speaker 1: got so. So this is not a bottle or something
Speaker 1: like that. This is this man deserves his flowers. He
Speaker 1: deserves to be here. He's one of the most lyrical
Speaker 1: bar lords there is. When you look at the new
Speaker 1: you know, School of Mount Rushmore. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He belongs there, you know what I'm saying, next to
Speaker 1: the Kendricks, the Coles and the Drake's, and his face
Speaker 1: belongs there. He's, like I said, a bar lord. He
Speaker 1: makes constant hit records. He's out on his own right now.
Speaker 1: He's he's doing. He just performed at the goddamn Lions
Speaker 1: game and tore that ship up. Yeah. So in case
Speaker 1: you don't know the funk we're talking about, we talked
Speaker 1: about big motherfucker' shoan. So how was that on Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: for your hometown? In your hometown. That's the second time
Speaker 1: I did it, So it was beautiful. The show the
Speaker 1: hometown love is like that. Yeah, and you said, what
Speaker 1: did somebody say something? Okay, So it's beautiful and like
Speaker 1: I said, it's my second time doing it. And the
Speaker 1: performance was cool because it's like we started in the crowd,
Speaker 1: we started and went to another part of the stage,
Speaker 1: went to another part. So the production was cool and
Speaker 1: we uh, we just had a good time. It was
Speaker 1: funny though, because when I sat in the crowd, everybody
Speaker 1: was so hype. Everybody was so live. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh my god. And you know they like everybody gotta
Speaker 1: stay in your seats performance. And then when I saw
Speaker 1: it on camera, I was like, people, it was just
Speaker 1: like because I was sitting there for like ten minutes,
Speaker 1: so it was like, you know, they had to stay
Speaker 1: in their seat and not get up with me and
Speaker 1: get to go on. You know what I'm saying. But bro,
Speaker 1: it was funny. Bro It's crazy. No. Now, Detroit is
Speaker 1: a real, real city. And when I would say that
Speaker 1: is for anybody who's never been in Detroit when I've
Speaker 1: my experiences, because I can't just drive Detroit um and
Speaker 1: in a very articulate way because I've been there, you know,
Speaker 1: not not too much, but I've been there enough to know.
Speaker 1: But when I've seen in Detroit, it's like super rich
Speaker 1: and then super poor. That's how it is everywhere. Though
Speaker 1: the Miami has a middle, Miami has a middle, we
Speaker 1: got a middle too. That's where that's like kind of like, okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's the part I haven't seen. Like I remember
Speaker 1: me performing in Detroit. I swear to GoF one time.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. It was the Shelter, one of those
Speaker 1: stum and I remember leaving there and me driving back
Speaker 1: to the hotel and no Lights was on. I talking
Speaker 1: about the whole street Lights was was gone except for
Speaker 1: the casino that was. It had to be like early
Speaker 1: two thousands because it was before eminem it was, it
Speaker 1: was whatever Shore, it was. It was before everything. But
Speaker 1: I remember and then I was like, just like your
Speaker 1: third album, and I remember coming back to Detroit and
Speaker 1: I remember y'all was also first on medical marijuana, Like
Speaker 1: y'all was early on that ship. Like I was like,
Speaker 1: what the yeah. I was like, yeah, And I went
Speaker 1: to some spot. It was across the street. I was eating,
Speaker 1: so I think it was saying as of cross the
Speaker 1: street and there was like a black spot. Everyone in
Speaker 1: there had medical medical marijuana licenses. I was like earlier.
Speaker 1: So that's a classic men. You though, she'll describe Detroit
Speaker 1: for people a person that's never been there. Um, and
Speaker 1: you love your city, man, that's one thing everyone has
Speaker 1: to respect about you, like you love love your city.
Speaker 1: Everybody from the city love that city. Everybody from betray
Speaker 1: Red betray proudly, you know. Every I didn't went around
Speaker 1: the world and felt the city presence everywhere I go,
Speaker 1: from Japan, London, everywhere, people rocking. Detroit has l a
Speaker 1: new York. You know what I'm saying, they got it.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's a city that's been through so
Speaker 1: many tough times that you've got no choice but to
Speaker 1: just be authentically who you are. You aren't trying to
Speaker 1: be nobody else. You're not trying to put on the front.
Speaker 1: You're not trying to you know what I'm saying. At Hollywood,
Speaker 1: you're just you're from the d so you you have
Speaker 1: a built in resilience. You know, the city of champions,
Speaker 1: Lingo style. You know, they're keeping fresh everything they do,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And just historical you know,
Speaker 1: city that's in our DNA from you're talking about you
Speaker 1: know this is Michael Jackson. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Jackson five, you're some about to add rag. You' telling
Speaker 1: about Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gay, read the Franklin. You're talking
Speaker 1: about more time, You're talking about Jay Diller, talking about
Speaker 1: Slow Village. You're talking about race and huge impact, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it kind of got It's
Speaker 1: a city that it just breeds. That's how you know,
Speaker 1: you get a lot of money. I've seen white people
Speaker 1: walking here with pig water water case, the sign of
Speaker 1: getting money. You remember how money getting? Don't you know that?
Speaker 1: I love Fiji. I love That's my favorite, you warters,
Speaker 1: it's Fiji involved. You gotta deal with Fiji right now. No, no,
Speaker 1: you remember the first time we've seen Fiji? Ward, I
Speaker 1: remember that the first time I've seen it was puff? Okay, No,
Speaker 1: I don't really, yeah, I don't can't remember what okay.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, but let's let's stick, let's sick.
Speaker 1: Let's stick with the d because right, um, it's a
Speaker 1: city Midwest, correct of course, but um it's a city.
Speaker 1: Oh damn, hold on, hold on, let me talk about
Speaker 1: the choit right now. We won't get to that. Can
Speaker 1: you forgetting about the bad boys? This is about the
Speaker 1: act I was about to ask, not the bad boys.
Speaker 1: I was about to ask the malice in the Palace
Speaker 1: when Indiana against How old was you at that time?
Speaker 1: Did you see that game live? Yeah? No, I don'tee.
Speaker 1: I wasn't there, livy, I saw when it was happening. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm saying you saw it live, not not being end up.
Speaker 1: I can't remember how old I was during the time
Speaker 1: of Malice in the Palace. That's ship and live, you know,
Speaker 1: like the thing that just happened with the Lakers and
Speaker 1: the Pistons. There was about to be another malice in
Speaker 1: that was in l a which is I was in
Speaker 1: that was in it could have got the thing about
Speaker 1: it. It It was the blood, you know. You know what's funny.
Speaker 1: When Lebron first hit him and he walked over to him,
Speaker 1: I didn't see the blood. How come the blood came
Speaker 1: after they separated him. Man, that was like wrestling. That
Speaker 1: was like wrestling blood. That was all Jim tucking ship
Speaker 1: right there. I was like, all right, so so you
Speaker 1: you did see. But I'm also I'm the creative director
Speaker 1: for the Detroit Pistons. Yeah, it was one of the
Speaker 1: many jobs. Okay, okay, that's another thing. People from the
Speaker 1: day we hustle. Right, He's like New York and you
Speaker 1: got a movie theater too. We got a movie theater too. Okay,
Speaker 1: the creative for the Pistons. It's not open yet, so
Speaker 1: we just started building. It's a it's a process, bro.
Speaker 1: We was gonna build it at another location and for
Speaker 1: guy works in mysterious ways because it didn't work out
Speaker 1: in that location and then the pandemic happened. Movie theaters
Speaker 1: was yeah, you know what I'm saying. So it would
Speaker 1: have been worst case scenario. We opened it and it
Speaker 1: just completely fell flat as a new business. So now
Speaker 1: we got a new location that's right over on Wayne State.
Speaker 1: It's just it's so it could be hard dealing with
Speaker 1: the city sometimes, you know what I'm saying. It's like
Speaker 1: because it's right there on the campus. They're building a
Speaker 1: bridge over the freeway. So it's like I need Wayne
Speaker 1: State to really get that, like ball moving on, keeping
Speaker 1: keep it moving, and keep it building, you know, because
Speaker 1: it's just so many steps to like that's the that's
Speaker 1: a commercial that's commercial real estate. So that's a big,
Speaker 1: big deal. And that's my first first deal like that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, where I'm actually part owner
Speaker 1: of the actual real estate, not just the movie. And
Speaker 1: what's crazy is there is no movie theater in the
Speaker 1: city of Detroit. They all might be five minutes out
Speaker 1: of Detroite, eight minutes, but not in this that's crazy, right,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, I've never heard of that. We'ld
Speaker 1: have been a minute time. Yeah you went to fast
Speaker 1: with a minute? Did you just say there's no movie
Speaker 1: there in the old city. The whole city, Like all right,
Speaker 1: whoa time should be one down at the rent siting
Speaker 1: at the Renaissance Center, but they closed that down. So
Speaker 1: this is this is why it's a big deal because
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do more than the theater. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to have it be a place for the community, a
Speaker 1: place where creatives can premier their videos, premier their independent films,
Speaker 1: have real film premiers there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Have a place where people can have presentations, where uh
Speaker 1: like community centers, workshops, just somewhere where the people can
Speaker 1: really come together in the city. And it'd be like
Speaker 1: an entertainment hub and have you know, bowling everything else
Speaker 1: to that a movie theater can do. I want to
Speaker 1: supposed to be the biggest screen in the world too,
Speaker 1: but it's really big, bro, But it's a lot of things.
Speaker 1: You know, you know how important it is to diversify.
Speaker 1: So also we're starting a VC to a venture capitalist
Speaker 1: phone where we're gonna be you know, funding said, it's
Speaker 1: a virtual virtual No, but it's a it's the first
Speaker 1: of its kind because it's a um, we're doing it
Speaker 1: like you know, most venture capitalists where how traditionally RAM
Speaker 1: but we're also doing half of the funds of being
Speaker 1: in the stock market because I got the right people.
Speaker 1: The money I put into, like all the stocks and
Speaker 1: things already have already been able to double in like
Speaker 1: a short amount of time. So I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: people the opportunity, try to tell people the opportunity to
Speaker 1: just invest. You know, it's a black owned I'm part
Speaker 1: of this company Amber that's like you ever heard of him.
Speaker 1: So it's a mug that keeps your tear coffee the
Speaker 1: same temperature that yeah, I've been sending that and um,
Speaker 1: it's also being used in the medical field, so they're
Speaker 1: using it to keep organs, you know too, for organs
Speaker 1: to travel along way and keep it the same temperature.
Speaker 1: So that's what it's transitioning into as well. So that's
Speaker 1: one of the things Wills. I'm investing in, Uber, I'm
Speaker 1: invested in, you know a lot of things that I've
Speaker 1: been blessed to have ol gs that helped guy me
Speaker 1: in that way. So I'm just trying to pass that
Speaker 1: on and those investment you're doing them on your owner
Speaker 1: through the adventure capital from those are actually just on
Speaker 1: my own. But you know, I'll sit with my mom
Speaker 1: talking to my homie Jerry talking with a lot of people,
Speaker 1: and it's like, we got to figure out a way
Speaker 1: to do that for the people, to give people the
Speaker 1: opportunity because that financial literacy some ship, they don't really
Speaker 1: be teaching us. Bro. Yeah that's real. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: furthest you're getting in school is filling out a check.
Speaker 1: That's the furthest we got you're bringing out late bringing out.
Speaker 1: So Sean, we just want you to know, like our
Speaker 1: show was about giving people their flowers. We we we
Speaker 1: didn't we didn't make that statement up, but we made
Speaker 1: that statement famous in this game. We we wanted to
Speaker 1: tell people today face that how much we appreciate them,
Speaker 1: how much they deliver into the game and all that.
Speaker 1: So we want to give you your flowers. You know what,
Speaker 1: say I'm saying straight to straight. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's hard, shout out to what the flowers? Yeah you
Speaker 1: know what makes remember that? Bro? Yes, yes you know
Speaker 1: we worked hard. Yes, yes, yes, I'd like to give
Speaker 1: you your flowers. Ship, but hold on, I want to
Speaker 1: get hold of before you get into that, Before you
Speaker 1: get into that ship. When I first met you, and
Speaker 1: remember I came up to you and I was like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I gotta love for you. Your first album, are you
Speaker 1: know saying hunk with you? Uh? So then I'm looking
Speaker 1: at Drink Chance and you mentioned me and I was like,
Speaker 1: what the fun is he talking about? You know what's
Speaker 1: early though? This early Drink Chance. I think when I
Speaker 1: met you, I think he was just starting it right.
Speaker 1: And I told you congratulations, but I was like, it's
Speaker 1: hard that you were able to because I want to promise, promise,
Speaker 1: but I want to I want to ask you. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say a couple of words and I don't want
Speaker 1: you to tell me which comes to mom when you
Speaker 1: hear these, Oh you hear this? Okaya? Has you send me? Okay?
Speaker 1: Sending me too much? Okay? Finally famous? What do you
Speaker 1: think of when you think of that? Man? I think
Speaker 1: at the parties that we threw from out of high school.
Speaker 1: That was like our click name. Finally famous. So that
Speaker 1: was the We used to throw parties in Club Blue.
Speaker 1: Anybody at the train, the Club Blue, New Playing b
Speaker 1: And we would go to Bowling Green, Michigan State throw
Speaker 1: parties everywhere around the city. And those were my first shows.
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm saying, So I started from battle
Speaker 1: rapping in high school. Yeah, and then you know, doing
Speaker 1: the Friday Night Cipher, which was a show on the
Speaker 1: radio station during um during high school when my grandma
Speaker 1: had a stroke and that's the only reason I had
Speaker 1: a car, because she had just got a car and
Speaker 1: it had a stroke or half her body got paralyzed us. So, um, anyway,
Speaker 1: you know, it happens, you know. Uh, but that that
Speaker 1: was gave me the opportunity to be able to get
Speaker 1: across the city so I would be you know everywhere
Speaker 1: I needed to be open mics, battle rapping and everything.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's what you know, my first album,
Speaker 1: my first mix tapes. I really even though I did
Speaker 1: have obviously an amazing co sign, I really had to
Speaker 1: build that ship, you know, because there are other people
Speaker 1: who had that same co sign and still other people
Speaker 1: got that co sign and ain't happening for them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I really had to put in that work. It didn't
Speaker 1: feel like that co sign was over in the beginning,
Speaker 1: Like it didn't seem like it was in everybody's face, right,
Speaker 1: So you did have to work for it. Was that
Speaker 1: air like you know, right after the dedication mix tapes
Speaker 1: and like fifty mixed teams saying, um else, what's going
Speaker 1: crazy on the mix tape circuit? Like definitely, Wayne was
Speaker 1: like you know that was what we used to ride
Speaker 1: the school listening to his dedication one dedication to you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Carter and uh, that was like
Speaker 1: the mix tape error. He really I feel like helped
Speaker 1: him and jee Z to help, like really the mixape
Speaker 1: a yeah, like at least at least from my perspective,
Speaker 1: Like I could be wrong too, but like you know, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, you make a point. But I'm talking about
Speaker 1: because you remember that mixtape that d Piff that like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, live mix tapes that was
Speaker 1: like it led into that and that was what me
Speaker 1: cole Dre wi Um we took advantage of. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Okay, And Kendrick I believe he had
Speaker 1: mixed tapes. I believe what I'm saying about. Definitely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame second album, what are You learning? Process?
Speaker 1: And I would do with with no idea. All my
Speaker 1: albums was just like reflections to where I was had
Speaker 1: in life. You know That's why I'm asking. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: that was just it was fat. Everything was just moving
Speaker 1: so fucking fast. That was my first time where I
Speaker 1: was listening to people saying like, you gotta hurry up,
Speaker 1: you gotta hurry yet you had to drop this, We
Speaker 1: need to catch the date. Yeah, that's that's the only
Speaker 1: him that I was rushed on, because I also dropped
Speaker 1: my Detroit mixtape, which I consider is one of my
Speaker 1: best albums too, and I dropped that both of those
Speaker 1: at around the same time, and I just felt the
Speaker 1: pressure of like it was one of the times one
Speaker 1: wasn't considered the album, considered the mixtape the mixtape, but
Speaker 1: it was an album. It was called original Music, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And through death jamma as well, right, well, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: but I'm actually putting that on streaming services like in
Speaker 1: the next week or two. So really, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a long fucking process, like trying to clear everything. But
Speaker 1: uh so that was a time where I was trying
Speaker 1: to keep up with the pace of like, okay, I
Speaker 1: had you know, back to back to back platinum singles,
Speaker 1: my first album is going you know, and then the mixtape,
Speaker 1: and then that was around the same time that Click
Speaker 1: dropped with me hoping yeah and all the good music,
Speaker 1: the cruel summer, you know what I'm saying. So then
Speaker 1: everybody like you gotta strike, you gotta her if you
Speaker 1: gotta hurry up, and it's like that is definitely uh
Speaker 1: was a learning process of like, Okay, you gotta be
Speaker 1: on your schedule. She's not ready. It's not ready, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Not to say it wasn't ready,
Speaker 1: but I definitely was rushing during that process. You know, Okay,
Speaker 1: how about Dark Sky pad So, dark Sky Paradises where
Speaker 1: I took my time, Okay, where you learn your face
Speaker 1: change you look so like I don't learn like so much.
Speaker 1: He wants come on, you know, show with the rock show,
Speaker 1: but for you, we're gonna let the forty two come on.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah Black Bay okay, yeah please please. All this
Speaker 1: is black hip hop business, right all this you know,
Speaker 1: ain't that beautiful? That's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful damn.
Speaker 1: But yeah, So Dark Sky Paradises where I like, uh,
Speaker 1: somebody gonna for this shot? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 1: come on yes yeah. Um. So that's just where I
Speaker 1: applied everything I learned, and you know, so I got
Speaker 1: I got a lot of stories with that we could
Speaker 1: come back to it. So it's this the time where
Speaker 1: you're sitting back and you're saying, you're taking your career
Speaker 1: into your own hands, or we still got you know,
Speaker 1: these executives that's involved and things like that, how does
Speaker 1: this work? It was definitely if you involved. If you
Speaker 1: signed to any label, it's executives involved, but it's just
Speaker 1: about how much they involved. This is the first time
Speaker 1: where I was like really producing, knew exactly the type
Speaker 1: of music I wanted to make, you know, the people,
Speaker 1: the features I wanted to have. I was just clear
Speaker 1: on it, you know, because that's where I was at
Speaker 1: in life. It was my first time where I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got some ship to prove again, you know. And
Speaker 1: ever I get in that position, it feels like that
Speaker 1: I always stepped rise to the occasion, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And that was one of the first times
Speaker 1: that I felt like that. You know. I did feel
Speaker 1: like that when I was making a D trait mixtape too,
Speaker 1: and with Dark Sky Paradise, you know, it was just
Speaker 1: a divine thing how everything was unfolding, all the features
Speaker 1: was happening, like from blessings that that came at the
Speaker 1: very last secon I feel second, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and from one man could change the world. That was
Speaker 1: probably one of my favorite songs on the album because
Speaker 1: I wrote that about my grandma. And when I say man,
Speaker 1: I just mean like human being. You know how they
Speaker 1: referred to man in the Bible as a human you know,
Speaker 1: man woman. But so you know, she was one of
Speaker 1: the first female black captains in World War Two. She
Speaker 1: was one of the first female police officers in Detroite.
Speaker 1: After that, she became a teacher of counselor. She was
Speaker 1: completely bossed up, you know what I'm saying, And um,
Speaker 1: I dedicated that song to her. But my favorite song
Speaker 1: on the album's Paradise. That's the That's one of the
Speaker 1: ones on that one for me. How about I decided,
Speaker 1: I decided that's might be one of my favorite I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say that's my favorite album. I'm done. I
Speaker 1: thought just gonna say, finally, Famous or Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: is your favorite album? Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, but it's
Speaker 1: still my favorite though, you know, because it was crazy
Speaker 1: said that as well. When I listened to the Hold
Speaker 1: of Fame, I don't feel like this rushed at all.
Speaker 1: But but I'm saying I'm outside of looking at another artists.
Speaker 1: So like when people the fans that come up to
Speaker 1: me they love Melviourne Flint, and I'll be like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I just hated where I was at in life when
Speaker 1: I made that album, so I could never appreciate it
Speaker 1: like how they appreciate it. But I decided where were
Speaker 1: you at? Yeah? So and again, uh well, okay, let's
Speaker 1: talk about I decided. I decided. I had a dream.
Speaker 1: I remember telling calling one of my niggas up, and
Speaker 1: I had a dream that I was an old man
Speaker 1: and had regretted everything I did wrong in life. I
Speaker 1: straight up had a dream like that. Bro, Wait, hold on,
Speaker 1: So you had to dream that you were old man
Speaker 1: like he was. Actuality make it to be an old man.
Speaker 1: That's a blessing. Success, that was a blessing. So how
Speaker 1: could you say that because I couldn't saying he regretted
Speaker 1: it because I couldn't remember anything that happened. I was
Speaker 1: old and couldn't remember. That's what That's what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So I was like, what, I can't remember
Speaker 1: anything I did, So I just remember feeling that way
Speaker 1: for like a few days and I told my boy
Speaker 1: and he was like, that's a fire concept for like
Speaker 1: a short film or something. Wow, he's a director, Wow.
Speaker 1: And Mommi Lawrence. And then as I was getting in
Speaker 1: the studio, for some reason, the energy just transferred into
Speaker 1: the studio, you know. And that was kind of the
Speaker 1: whole overlying concept for the album is like living life
Speaker 1: with the wisdom of your older self, but coming to
Speaker 1: it as a you know, approaching it as your presence self.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because all you really got
Speaker 1: us that moment. So that that was my That was
Speaker 1: for I decided how I was feeling at the time.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm double enough with metro Booman, that was
Speaker 1: just straight fun fun. Yeah. I was in Atlanta, so
Speaker 1: I thought that was like a mix tape at first,
Speaker 1: but it seems like they counted as an album. Now
Speaker 1: that was a mix tape. It's a mixtape. Count on
Speaker 1: mom with motherfucking contract. Let me be quiet. Put this album? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I also did your name and that was an album,
Speaker 1: not an album. That's not an album, but damn put
Speaker 1: it out. Hey, bullshitn't me? Yeah, you gotta go to
Speaker 1: some accounting, Okay. With Double let's go. Um just what
Speaker 1: you said, Yeah, Metro, that was just fun. Bro. We
Speaker 1: was like in Atlanta. That was my like just moving
Speaker 1: and that was the first time that Okay, I wanted
Speaker 1: to work with the producer solely and he was just like,
Speaker 1: don't think about it, just going there and laid it
Speaker 1: down like a lot of those everything on there. It
Speaker 1: was just like you know, I usually go back, I
Speaker 1: usually listened and it was just like recorded, done out.
Speaker 1: So if you were the album with Metro helped you
Speaker 1: with the album with hit Boy that you just dropped right, Well,
Speaker 1: that was an EP two two. That's only like five
Speaker 1: or six songs. Yeah. So my last album is Detroit To. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's my last one. Detroit Too. Oh yeah, so
Speaker 1: we was that let's le's let's get it to that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where I was at Detroit To. That was my fifth album.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. You know how
Speaker 1: it is making albums? Yes, I do so, Like it's
Speaker 1: a difference when you get to your first album, when
Speaker 1: you get to your second album, when you get to
Speaker 1: your third album and you do a project on the
Speaker 1: side after your third album, and then you come to
Speaker 1: your fourth album and then you go to another project
Speaker 1: that you do that's you know, not an album, and
Speaker 1: you come back. So it's like I was overwhelmed. Not
Speaker 1: overwhelmed block, more like life blocks, more like fucking tired.
Speaker 1: That's real. You know what I'm saying. You get tired.
Speaker 1: It's like that's real. And I had just moved into
Speaker 1: this like crazy crib in Beverly Hill. God bless you
Speaker 1: be well. I saw, I saw the crib. Now, yeah
Speaker 1: I sold it. Didn't you live next to because it
Speaker 1: was like that, did you live next to college at
Speaker 1: one point? Yeah? He sold his. He's older too, got them.
Speaker 1: Let makes That's what you're supposed to do as a
Speaker 1: black man in America. You're supposed to buy land and
Speaker 1: either keeping and keeping in your family or get a
Speaker 1: good deal and sell that and keep that in your
Speaker 1: family too. But uh, staying in l A. You're not
Speaker 1: moving out of l A, right, I stay in Detroit? Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: I had the Detroit crib first and foremost. That's why
Speaker 1: I brought my mom, my grandma right because she died.
Speaker 1: That was the first thing I did. That was my
Speaker 1: first big purchase. So Detroit to so Detroit to um,
Speaker 1: I grew out as a person, bro, because you know,
Speaker 1: I went through the real nigger ship, like when you
Speaker 1: go through let me let me scratch that I go.
Speaker 1: I went through real people people ship, you know, and
Speaker 1: that's like learning to deal with how you feel. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm not a I don't be
Speaker 1: heavy into like drugs and ship. That was a point
Speaker 1: in my life where I did experience Like Molly, I
Speaker 1: was auDA, you like to be focused. You're focused, okay, An,
Speaker 1: that's motherfucker's want to study? Yeah, he focus? You want
Speaker 1: to be focused? Yeah, And I started I was starting
Speaker 1: to feel like I couldn't function without the ship, So
Speaker 1: you know, I gave it up, right but and had
Speaker 1: to get back on my just relying on myself. And
Speaker 1: I come from a parent I have two parents, my
Speaker 1: mom and my dad, but you know, mainly my mom
Speaker 1: who taught me a lot of things. She taught me
Speaker 1: how to manifest my life. She taught me earlier on
Speaker 1: how to meditate. She taught me early on that God
Speaker 1: is our creator and you. God is within you, and
Speaker 1: you have the powers of God to create and manifest
Speaker 1: the things that you want in life. You know, she
Speaker 1: taught me that early on, she she gave me books
Speaker 1: asking it It's Given by Estra and Jerry Hicks and
Speaker 1: Seven Spiritual Laws and Success with by Deepak chokra Um.
Speaker 1: What you think of me is none of my business,
Speaker 1: all these different books that I read, because the first
Speaker 1: time I ended up feeling like the first time I
Speaker 1: ever got depressed was when I graduated high school. Graduated
Speaker 1: high school with the three point seven g p A
Speaker 1: was been ahead to college with everybody else. But that
Speaker 1: was that was around the time I made you right,
Speaker 1: So I met you, but you was depressed. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you so I was. I You know, I have
Speaker 1: the classic rap story where I raped for you. He
Speaker 1: hears me, he sees the potential in me and ends
Speaker 1: up signing me a couple of years later. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But within that couple of years, when
Speaker 1: I graduated high school, I had a full scholarship to college.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I turned down because off
Speaker 1: of going off of the word and not athletes like scholarship,
Speaker 1: no academics. Wow, that's fine. Yeah, smart smart, let's make
Speaker 1: some Paul is smart? Smart like that too? Can get
Speaker 1: you nothing? Yeah, yeah, come on, come on there salute. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's why I got damn cool. I can't tell you
Speaker 1: so hold up, so let me tell you so, but
Speaker 1: hold on how much you want you to? Let you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start bragging about you because um yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: off top and be like, I don't know what nigger
Speaker 1: that got an academic scholarship that off there Like I'm
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, yeah, that's gonna be the second who
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, rapper, Yeah, I'm gonna start bragging about you.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, man. I hope you keep me permission,
Speaker 1: but Detroit to let's you know, uh, height everything is
Speaker 1: just a technique. I had a good technique of what
Speaker 1: happened to do my school work because that mean I
Speaker 1: could go do the rap ship. I mean if I
Speaker 1: if I was sucking up at school, I couldn't go
Speaker 1: to the studio, right, I couldn't go do the Friday
Speaker 1: night cipher. And that's how much I love doing That's
Speaker 1: how much I love just making music. Being able to
Speaker 1: go out and do all that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It gave me life and I treated it like it
Speaker 1: was a job before it was a job. You know what,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, so graduated high school new every day, right
Speaker 1: in high school brown, right with my my boy tone.
Speaker 1: I'm telling them, like man, when we sell out the palace,
Speaker 1: like I've already seen it in my head, like this
Speaker 1: rod Us which was driving. Oh so you know, I
Speaker 1: told you my grandma had a stroke and I ended
Speaker 1: up driving her car. So she had just brought a
Speaker 1: brand new christ the Sea Bred. So that was the
Speaker 1: first car I had. I got into a crazy fucking
Speaker 1: car accident. I was skipping school, ironically, right with the
Speaker 1: g p A right there with a high GPS. Was
Speaker 1: with my girl at the time, skipping school and the
Speaker 1: snow got into a crazy car accident. Got caught up
Speaker 1: in my lie because I'm telling my my mom, I'm
Speaker 1: somewhere else. I'm on the whole other side of town.
Speaker 1: I got into a fucking crazy accident. The whole car
Speaker 1: is total. Somehow I climbed out the window and nothing
Speaker 1: out with me, just a bruise, pinky, you see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And you know, um, then I ended up
Speaker 1: getting a new, brand new Impola. Insurance money came in
Speaker 1: and my grandma was like, what car do you want?
Speaker 1: So she added a couple of a couple of g's
Speaker 1: on it. You know what I'm saying. I ended up
Speaker 1: getting a brand new Inpola. Man. You know it's crazy Impola.
Speaker 1: Everywhere else in the world is fly but New York
Speaker 1: City straight up, because they cop cars in New York.
Speaker 1: So everyone yeah, but y'all don't get out. And there
Speaker 1: was the slider those was like the slider cars, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like the Marauders, the you know,
Speaker 1: the Impola's, So you got the impots. Take it from there,
Speaker 1: Grandma who hooked it up to Grandma's I've ever met
Speaker 1: I'm talking to I can tell you a captain in
Speaker 1: World War Two, and you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: you can't even tell me otherwise, you know. So anyway,
Speaker 1: she I mean them Pola, you know. And she respected me,
Speaker 1: and I respected her. She respected that I was trying
Speaker 1: to do something productive. You know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: I have family members, I have friends, everybody who was
Speaker 1: doing everything that that I didn't want to do. They
Speaker 1: was selling this, doing that, getting locked up doing what
Speaker 1: you're saying. You're a rapper. There's no one else that
Speaker 1: you could relate your story to, right because it's only
Speaker 1: Eminem at this time right now from from Detroit. And
Speaker 1: let's just be clear, there was more than I mean
Speaker 1: at the time I said, I'm saying even at the time, No,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I mean there's local rappers, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was a lot of people doing
Speaker 1: their thing from the city that I respect the honor,
Speaker 1: but not on the level. Eminem was the only one
Speaker 1: to be a global on that loved are from Detroit.
Speaker 1: But but that's what it around. Proof had been doing
Speaker 1: the c too, like I mean, it seems relatable to them,
Speaker 1: but they had their own lanes too. Yeah. Yeah, So anyway,
Speaker 1: let's take it back. I had the Impola, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's the car I had in high school.
Speaker 1: And uh, I forgot what the funk we was talking
Speaker 1: about now Detroit to he's trying to wrap up Detroit,
Speaker 1: you how anyway, anyway, anyway, let me tell you so
Speaker 1: I graduated high school, throw away the scholarships, concentrate on
Speaker 1: the music and the ship not going nowhere, Kanyee and
Speaker 1: don seeing everybody. You know what I'm saying, they're moving,
Speaker 1: they're doing they don't thing because you know, you're artists.
Speaker 1: He they tried, they were touring. They're not getting back
Speaker 1: to me. I don't know what the funk going on,
Speaker 1: and I gave up everything I had going for myself,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm staying in the
Speaker 1: same room that I've been sleeping in from my whole life. Everybody,
Speaker 1: all my friends off the college up in Michigan State,
Speaker 1: you have them bowling green, all these different places, and
Speaker 1: I'm sucking. I'm like, damn, I'm feeling like ship. That
Speaker 1: was my first battle with depression, and it felt like
Speaker 1: I was stuck. Months would go by. I would go
Speaker 1: visit my friends in school and they'd be like, man,
Speaker 1: he might as well just came to school. So what's
Speaker 1: up with your deal man? You're getting a record deal?
Speaker 1: Like what then? And you didn't You didn't drop a
Speaker 1: record at this I was trying to, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: doing ship, you know what I'm saying. So you know,
Speaker 1: actually I didn't. I'm I'm tripping now, I take that back.
Speaker 1: I didn't drop a record, but I just was relying
Speaker 1: on This was another lesson I learned. Relying on the
Speaker 1: record deal to come in from me. It taught me
Speaker 1: to get proactive instead of instead of reacting, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It taught me to be proactive. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, what the fund can I do? And
Speaker 1: that's when my mom introduced me to these books, these methods,
Speaker 1: these meditations, these different things, and okay, I was like,
Speaker 1: I started small. I started with realistic goals, was writing
Speaker 1: them down every day, meditating every day. I had a discipline,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I realized, obviously you
Speaker 1: where you lack at in life. If it rather it's
Speaker 1: a talent or something, you make up for the discipline.
Speaker 1: That's what you gotta do. So I just was like,
Speaker 1: if I don't have this record, do I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: this ship anyway I can. So I'm meditating every day,
Speaker 1: writing goals down, making vision boards, doing all this stuff.
Speaker 1: And then you know, I get a word back from Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they end up sending me some beats. And I
Speaker 1: already had new songs because I was productive in the studio.
Speaker 1: I was and putting them out because I didn't really
Speaker 1: know how to put them out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: At that time, I was selling seats around high school,
Speaker 1: you know, So It's like I didn't really know, I like,
Speaker 1: how to even upload anything to the internet like that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So yeah, I gotta circuit
Speaker 1: around the city. But that's it. You know, it kind
Speaker 1: of stopped there. So then I'm sending you know, don C, Kanye,
Speaker 1: everybody these um songs. They're getting back to me. And
Speaker 1: as time goes on, As time goes on, I just
Speaker 1: saw the record deal coming through bro. The record deal
Speaker 1: got sent in, and I remember I got it immediately,
Speaker 1: got a lawyer, you know, a new lawyer, and it
Speaker 1: was one of the happiest days in my life. I
Speaker 1: signed it. But that's when I knew the real work started.
Speaker 1: I didn't get lazy. That's when I started even getting more.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I need a team now. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: now I need a team for promotions. I need to
Speaker 1: It gave legitimacy to because we was already throwing the
Speaker 1: parties around town at the colleges, the finally famous parties.
Speaker 1: It gave me a legitimacy to be like, your niggers
Speaker 1: need to focus on me right now because I'm trying
Speaker 1: to take it to a place where we can all
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm saying, do this ship, and they understood,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And there are times when
Speaker 1: I fell back and we focused on another person in
Speaker 1: the group for a different you know, if it was
Speaker 1: a an event we were doing for somebody like. And
Speaker 1: that's that's one of the things I learned, is when
Speaker 1: to fall back, when it be at the front of something,
Speaker 1: when to be a team player, and when to be
Speaker 1: a leader, you know what I mean. And that that
Speaker 1: was the first time I was like, Okay, I see
Speaker 1: I need to be the leader now. So anyway, I
Speaker 1: got a record deal and put the songs together and
Speaker 1: started putting out mix tapes and just building my fan
Speaker 1: base organically. So that's what because because you know, we're
Speaker 1: seeing that we're here. Is that how we started with
Speaker 1: Detroit too, the especial minded you here. Okay, so let
Speaker 1: me take you back. I was saying, that was just
Speaker 1: my first time going through a tough time right where
Speaker 1: I had to deal with, you know, feeling you know, depression,
Speaker 1: you know, having to really concentrate on my mental health.
Speaker 1: So come go back to Detroit too. I'm in a
Speaker 1: place where it's like, okay, all this ship I ever
Speaker 1: wanted to do. Fast forward to that. You know, um
Speaker 1: I got you know, I always wanted the platinum album.
Speaker 1: I had a couple of platinum albums at this time.
Speaker 1: I always wanted to have a song on the radio,
Speaker 1: had a lot of songs on the radio. I always
Speaker 1: wanted to buy my mom a cred bought my mom
Speaker 1: a creed. So I did all these things, and then
Speaker 1: I was leaving your goal, I said, completed my goals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I and and when my grandma dad. I'm in
Speaker 1: the backbone with my family, right, So why was I
Speaker 1: feeling sucked up? But why did I feel the way
Speaker 1: I was feeling. I wasn't happy? Why then I wasn't happy?
Speaker 1: I didn't know. It didn't make no sense to me.
Speaker 1: So I had to reevaluate myself and step away from
Speaker 1: everything I was doing and get to know myself again,
Speaker 1: you know. And that was what that was a challenge
Speaker 1: for me, because everything I was doing was linked to
Speaker 1: my career, linked to what I was doing, linked to
Speaker 1: the people I was with, whether it was a relationship,
Speaker 1: whether it was uh, just my friends, whether it's like
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to I didn't even know what
Speaker 1: the funk I liked anymore like that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I got to that point because I was
Speaker 1: so all my free time went to work. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what my hobbies was. I didn't know what I
Speaker 1: like to do. You know what I'm saying. I just tried.
Speaker 1: I had to try it. I went skydiving. Not to
Speaker 1: cut you off, but you know it's crazy. One time
Speaker 1: I'm speaking to l L right and I'm like, yoh,
Speaker 1: why the fund are you so balanced? L L would
Speaker 1: tell me, he said, he said, because in between albums
Speaker 1: they always told me I failed. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: look at l L's career, one of his albums with platinum,
Speaker 1: the next one when gold, which is a success in
Speaker 1: anyone else's world, But to him, they would go back
Speaker 1: to him and say, your last one went double platinum,
Speaker 1: like so this, So it was crazy. So he had
Speaker 1: a certain balance to him, which was crazy. But let
Speaker 1: me ask you a question, because I heard you got
Speaker 1: photographer fire because they took pictures of Beyonce and jay Z.
Speaker 1: It's this true, No, it's just true. But something it
Speaker 1: something like that, you're photographer took a phony a picture
Speaker 1: of and and he got fired. This is crazy, photographer, huh.
Speaker 1: He wasn't a photographer, and it wasn't he didn't take
Speaker 1: a picture of jay Z and Beyonce. Okay, okay, let's
Speaker 1: what's get into this tweet. What happened? Okay, let me
Speaker 1: go back to that. Let me think we were out working.
Speaker 1: So he works for you, he used to work for
Speaker 1: you friends? Okay, and what did he do? What? You
Speaker 1: know when you hire your friends for everything? When you
Speaker 1: think your first getting it going, Yeah, we at least
Speaker 1: we got control now. But then but you have to
Speaker 1: figure out the friends that are actually good at some
Speaker 1: of them be like what are you doing? Wait? Still
Speaker 1: this opportunity? So anyway, I don't want to tell this story,
Speaker 1: play him on black man, Oh, I don't want me.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I know it's a funny story, but
Speaker 1: it's like he's a real person. Man, I don't kept
Speaker 1: seeing this. You could, you could tell it, but so
Speaker 1: I won't say his name. That's great, that's a great thing.
Speaker 1: That's a great This ain't no media training. This is
Speaker 1: a real So anyway, I mean, we're down there working
Speaker 1: on my beautiful dark Twister fantasy in Hawaii's is it? Maui?
Speaker 1: Do you remember a part of Hawaii yeah, it was
Speaker 1: the mainland. I love Hawaiti. I've been at every damn
Speaker 1: island I've been. I've been, um yeah yeah. So anyway,
Speaker 1: we're working there, that's a special studio. I'm out there
Speaker 1: just playing my role. But I brought my man's with me,
Speaker 1: just you know, in case I needed anything. He was
Speaker 1: gonna help hold me down. You know, if it's like, bro,
Speaker 1: you in the studio working, I grab you some food. Yeah,
Speaker 1: holding me down, you know what I'm saying. So Hawai,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's good to just have a support system.
Speaker 1: It's good to have one of your homes there when
Speaker 1: you're trying to you know, you're trying to contribute absolutely.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm in the studio, it was me and
Speaker 1: Hole and I don't I'm not a nigger who even then,
Speaker 1: I wasn't like trying to be thirsty or like sneaking
Speaker 1: fucking picture. I mean, I'm in here just taking it
Speaker 1: in mentally, you know what I'm saying, Come on, like,
Speaker 1: who's not gonna lit until you know? I was. I
Speaker 1: don't know, homies, that just leading to anyway, he ends
Speaker 1: up taking a picture of all of us in the
Speaker 1: studio and he's not in it. He just takes a
Speaker 1: sneak picture, didn't tell me, ends up tweeting it and
Speaker 1: like he just picked up on like all hip hop
Speaker 1: and you know things like that like that, and um,
Speaker 1: I don't know who saw it, but it got to
Speaker 1: like either yeah or whole's attention and it came at
Speaker 1: me and they thought it was me because it didn't
Speaker 1: make any sense because it's like I wasn't really even
Speaker 1: on at that time, and it was like Kanye jay Z, Beyonce,
Speaker 1: Big Sean, like people like who is Big Sean? It
Speaker 1: looked like I planned this ship right anyway. Communication can
Speaker 1: save the nation. Because when we talked about it, like
Speaker 1: I told him, I was like, I don't even know
Speaker 1: what the fun you're talking about, But who's calling you
Speaker 1: and saying this I'm in the studio? Yeah, okay, He's
Speaker 1: like bro. He was like I explained to him who
Speaker 1: it was, and he was like you gotta fire him.
Speaker 1: He was like, we we all done this. We've hired
Speaker 1: the people you know that we love and do this
Speaker 1: and this and this ship. But people was mad at you.
Speaker 1: People was mad you're talking about me, he showing me.
Speaker 1: People was mad at you thinking that she was being
Speaker 1: thirsty and it was your man's. So I told him,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm in a position where it's like ship
Speaker 1: yeah and hold saying you gotta go. I'm sorry, bro,
Speaker 1: we gotta figure out some others something else, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But ended up being a blessing in
Speaker 1: the skies. He ended up transforming his life and being
Speaker 1: probably way more successful than he would have been just
Speaker 1: uh in in a position he was in. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: ended up being a teacher, ended up and impacting a
Speaker 1: lot of people's lives and and doing amazing, wonderful things.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Dope, shippe before we get
Speaker 1: in the quick time with Slim, right, you just that's
Speaker 1: that's a game. Okay. I don't know how there gonna
Speaker 1: edit this ship, but we're gonna go back to Detroit too, Okay, yes, alright,
Speaker 1: no problem, We don't really we just kind of we
Speaker 1: kind of let you do whatever. I think you should
Speaker 1: take another shot. I don't think you're taking on the shot.
Speaker 1: Could really turn up take it on the shot solttlegaso. Right,
Speaker 1: let's go tell him I bet him the last time. Sorry,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I met him the last time STU got
Speaker 1: great energy. M hmm. Everybody around me do I'm an
Speaker 1: energy you know how that ship called like I can well, yeah,
Speaker 1: my energy whisper wore like I could just be able
Speaker 1: like this guy got good energy to So I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's next creatively, because I don't
Speaker 1: want to make the same music I made before. I
Speaker 1: don't want to do the same show. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: change it up. And I had grown as a person,
Speaker 1: like I said, around Detroit too. That was the time
Speaker 1: where I was going through a low point mentally. I
Speaker 1: had to rediscover myself right. So the music kind of
Speaker 1: reflects a lot of that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Even a song with nit with deep reverence then I
Speaker 1: got there in my notes what I'm saying, Uh, that
Speaker 1: was something we started before um he left us, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And it was somebody to finish
Speaker 1: after he was gone. And that was you know, that
Speaker 1: was kind of like a it was a it was
Speaker 1: something that I was kind of like not really trying
Speaker 1: to do honestly. You know. Hit Boy was the one
Speaker 1: who was like, no, Bro, you gotta you gotta finish
Speaker 1: this for bro, you know, because I didn't want to
Speaker 1: look like I was trying to take advantage of nothing.
Speaker 1: He was like, no, you're paying respect, Like bro, fucked
Speaker 1: with you. You know what I'm saying. It When I
Speaker 1: talked to Sam about his brother, when I talked to
Speaker 1: everybody around it, it was like okay, yeah, yea yeah,
Speaker 1: talking about Black Sam. Yeah and everybody. They was like, no,
Speaker 1: like this just hard. You know what I'm saying. To
Speaker 1: finish it off, I did because on that record you
Speaker 1: actually say something like nip passed away or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, but you had nips verse on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah go ahead, yeah, so um yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that was just that was That was that, And that
Speaker 1: was a song where I was reflecting a lot on
Speaker 1: just like a lot of ship we'd be going through.
Speaker 1: You know. When you listen to that and songs like
Speaker 1: Lucky Me, songs like uh, the whole album, it's just
Speaker 1: it's something I'm really proud of. That's something I really
Speaker 1: I put my heart into it. Songs like a guards
Speaker 1: your Heart all that type ship. Man. It was just
Speaker 1: like a beautiful, beautiful album from me front to back.
Speaker 1: I'm super proud of. And that was my back to
Speaker 1: back to back number one album. That was my third
Speaker 1: number one. God damn make some noise for that. So
Speaker 1: we knew you. Look, that was the same week Takasi dropped,
Speaker 1: and everybody was like, oh, it's a cassy about that.
Speaker 1: And then we ended up doubling that, you know, we
Speaker 1: ended up doubling what he so so that but at
Speaker 1: first good at first their projections, So it's not like that,
Speaker 1: you know. Um yeah, because you love your city so much,
Speaker 1: I just want you to say one thing about this
Speaker 1: one person that we bring up. People want to do
Speaker 1: Kuicktom with slime and they're gonna get into the real ship. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna start with you. What about it,
Speaker 1: Big Sean, Yeah, say one or two things about yourself,
Speaker 1: just real fast. Got got a whole law in it. Okay,
Speaker 1: shows a different path than everybody else from my city. Okay,
Speaker 1: unapologegetically was myself no matter what Eminem God them see
Speaker 1: what God them see, guardom see. Okay, I'll accept that
Speaker 1: side of baby Wild as a motherfucker. Wow, there's a
Speaker 1: mother Wild. There's a my talented as a motherfucker. I'll
Speaker 1: take that proof. Legendary, legendary, feel like he I feel
Speaker 1: like he helped inspire him a lot, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I feel like he was on who really
Speaker 1: brought deeps well together as well. I feel like he
Speaker 1: was the backbone of that seems like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I feel like he was cold lyrically you
Speaker 1: listened to them proved versus cold. Yeah, that was the
Speaker 1: home trick trick the Protector. I love that. The Protector
Speaker 1: remind me to give my trick tricks. Yeah, Danny trick
Speaker 1: trick man he is. That's the home at home you
Speaker 1: don't play. That's the home they don't play. That's all
Speaker 1: we're gonna say. You're home. Yeah. Um Danny Brown uh
Speaker 1: so animated, animated and authentic. Yeah, I like that. Where's
Speaker 1: the Part nine rap guy? Just like Eminem I love
Speaker 1: that day Globe originator style. She got that. She a player,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and just a trend setter. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Big hurt, he said, big hurt. Oh, big hurt. Bad
Speaker 1: um o g o g uh. Somebody who really liked
Speaker 1: took that, like he took the city up. Like some
Speaker 1: of his ship was just like our our our background music,
Speaker 1: our anthems. You know what I'm saying we were out
Speaker 1: to school too for show Obi Trice. Respect to Obi Trice.
Speaker 1: He had a he got a crazy story. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know that, No, I don't really know.
Speaker 1: He got shot the head and everything I heard about that.
Speaker 1: But ob Trice is more than welcome to be on
Speaker 1: drink Champ. Yeah, so would you would you were two
Speaker 1: words you have about old you? Uh? I forgot what
Speaker 1: I said, but I think he's uh, he got a
Speaker 1: crazy story and I said that he animated, animated and
Speaker 1: just you know he did this, he did this thing.
Speaker 1: He represented the D two everything doing what we try.
Speaker 1: You want to welcome to come up with a Blade
Speaker 1: ice Wood recipe print, But yeah, you can't mentioned blade
Speaker 1: without street Lord Wind. Uh who was my who's my
Speaker 1: o G? And somebody who took me in before the
Speaker 1: budgets came in where I was recording in his studio
Speaker 1: and you know, while he was fighting a federal case
Speaker 1: and everything. So he he gets all my respect, street
Speaker 1: Lord Wind, Street Lords, Blade ice Wood, Um, Blade ice
Speaker 1: Wood was the first get a superstar from from the city.
Speaker 1: Am I wrong? Period? How about? And then I believe
Speaker 1: this is the last one I got. No don't come on, okay,
Speaker 1: Jay Diller, Jay Diller, he is like the architect Jay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course goes without saying. I mean where would we
Speaker 1: wouldn't have a wh who all the producers. I feel
Speaker 1: like everyone got something from Ja Deller, Timberland, Kanye for real.
Speaker 1: He definitely Yeah, the whole movement, the whole sound of
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, just good chops, the unrealistic chops. People
Speaker 1: don't even know that it's inspired by Jay Dillers. He's
Speaker 1: a got Okay, King Gordy in my bag right now.
Speaker 1: So my man's used to about energy, about energy, I
Speaker 1: told you about my man's used to work for King Gordy.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. Uh, King Gordy, motherfucking worst. He
Speaker 1: would chop them words up man and King Gordy motherfucking
Speaker 1: flows crazy. Yeah. Um, your brother too. Yeah, you ain't
Speaker 1: here a group with your bro. Yeah the factulous. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm talking about I'm digging deep. But I mean
Speaker 1: I'm just showing you I got, you know, real, real detraining.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. From the beginning. That's still with me,
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, cash it doll. Uh, she's like the
Speaker 1: Detroit Queen Princess queen right now. I've seen her baby
Speaker 1: showers somewhere. It looked so beautiful. I've never had the
Speaker 1: pleasure of meeting cash Off. My wife is here, somebody
Speaker 1: call make sure she's good. She's good. I've never had
Speaker 1: the pleasure of meeting cash Doll. But um, I've seen
Speaker 1: her baby shop. Made me want to have a baby immediately. Wow,
Speaker 1: do you have any babies? Yes, I'm loaded. Let me
Speaker 1: say something about Cash Doll. I say, like Princess the Queen,
Speaker 1: because she is a queen. But it's like I feel
Speaker 1: like she's still growing into like her startom, you know,
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, how a princess was? I feel like
Speaker 1: there's more for her to grow. Yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: musically she you know, she was on BMF going crazy
Speaker 1: on fifth Show. Okay, and yeah, I think she got
Speaker 1: a long career ahead of her too. That's my that's
Speaker 1: my mother, fucking I love I love that bizarre bizarre.
Speaker 1: Um what just say words a boy A couple of
Speaker 1: words whatever I thought you're gonna say? Bizarre, Like if
Speaker 1: he's gonna keep very quotable his his his verses on
Speaker 1: D twelve or like very like when you when if
Speaker 1: you ever been to a D twelve show, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I saw him one time and it
Speaker 1: was like I was wrapping a lot of bizarre weirds,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Funny as a mom, Funny
Speaker 1: as a mom. He got rest to piece bis mall.
Speaker 1: That's like Bis long lost cousin and somewhat. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm a big bis Momman. Forty two Dug, It's not
Speaker 1: forty two, it's four too, That's what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's important though, to make sure you don't edit that out.
Speaker 1: People call him forty two Doug, and that's not what
Speaker 1: it's four two four two does not like nineteen forty two.
Speaker 1: Were just on the at the fucking Pistons game and
Speaker 1: he dropped fries right Kay, number one draft pick ran
Speaker 1: into him, That's what he said. I turned my head
Speaker 1: real quick. I didn't he might have ran into him.
Speaker 1: I don't know. He was like, man, Kay did this,
Speaker 1: Like okay whatever. So anyway, he dropped the fries on
Speaker 1: the fucking on the wood. I knew it. You know,
Speaker 1: when you see something that's about to happen and it
Speaker 1: don't happen, it's like if a motherfucker can't sitting down
Speaker 1: with the cup filled up to here and moving around.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, so I knew that. I knew that
Speaker 1: was gonna happen. But yeah, you know, he's just here.
Speaker 1: He um, he doing it. You know, he going crazy.
Speaker 1: I got love for Doug he off thing and he
Speaker 1: he original. I ain't never heard nobody rap like him. Okay,
Speaker 1: have you know yeah, I don't know to pronounced this.
Speaker 1: He sham be sean before your time out. I'm but no,
Speaker 1: but okay, go ahead, Wait how many more are you gout? Bro?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna skip through some of that. A he's looking
Speaker 1: at that way too much, okay. Baldy James, Body James,
Speaker 1: Baldy James. Yes, yes, Boldy James. You gotta say these names,
Speaker 1: right man. You gotta dyslexic everyone everyone knows what dyelexic.
Speaker 1: Lyrical assassin and he's Grizel though, right, he's Grizela. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was on. I put everybody, not everybody, if I
Speaker 1: put a lot of people from the city on one song,
Speaker 1: um on Detroit to the Friday Night Cipher because that
Speaker 1: was the show I went to every week. So I
Speaker 1: was just bringing that aesthetic back, you know, for the album.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he was on there going crazy. But yeah,
Speaker 1: like you said, he you know, he'll be doing his
Speaker 1: ship with Alchemis when they link up that ship leaping.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, shout out there, shout out
Speaker 1: iceword vezo. I don't know if he on a this,
Speaker 1: I got a whole bunch of ships. But I'm gonna come. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: let me tell you Somethinghout out ice Work Vessel because
Speaker 1: me and ice Work Vessel been through a lot, and
Speaker 1: and he he didn't did his time and everything, and um,
Speaker 1: he was mad at me honestly because you know, at first,
Speaker 1: like personally because he wasn't on that cipher song. But
Speaker 1: the cipher song wasn't intended everyone from Detroit on it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't. But that's see, that's not what the point was.
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to put everyone in from the hat
Speaker 1: on that. It was just a cipher song where I
Speaker 1: was putting people from the city on there, but not everybody.
Speaker 1: And that's what I was trying to explain to him.
Speaker 1: But he a real not only is he a real
Speaker 1: street and he just a real he's a real man.
Speaker 1: And he understood, and we we hashed it out like
Speaker 1: it wasn't even nothing to hashot. But we talked about
Speaker 1: it and communicated like grown men supposed to do. And
Speaker 1: he doing his motherfucking thing right now. So I got
Speaker 1: love for ice work, vessel, ice up records. You know, Peasy,
Speaker 1: you can't you can't talk about you trying to talk
Speaker 1: about Peasy, can't talk about baby face Ray, he got
Speaker 1: a trying to do my interview right now. Okay, how
Speaker 1: about a black milk oh Ship. He like hip, he
Speaker 1: like authentic Detroit hip hop. All do it like he?
Speaker 1: You know how he's like a rapper producer that like
Speaker 1: before that term was even so widely used so much.
Speaker 1: You know, he was rapping, making his own beast rapping
Speaker 1: and just crazy. Yeah yeah he been ill. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: this make some noise for that. God damitall. It just
Speaker 1: made a show turns up. This is where we play
Speaker 1: quick time with slime. We give you a choice. I
Speaker 1: wasn't quick time with Slim. Let me just say something.
Speaker 1: Let me just tell your something. I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: You know I do. I do research when I do
Speaker 1: these interviews. And one thing for short, two things for certain.
Speaker 1: The biggest trait that I love about you? Is you
Speaker 1: loving your city? Uh so that's the be while your city, right,
Speaker 1: I love my city, but I'm just not gonna lie. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love my city. Man. Yeah. But but here's the thing.
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of people who we see
Speaker 1: love the city, right, they die, They get taken out
Speaker 1: of the right saying. I saw your clip with Dol,
Speaker 1: saw your interview with them, And what I want to
Speaker 1: ask you is when, um, what you're to pun die
Speaker 1: kind of obviously remember the time, but maybe it might
Speaker 1: be hard to pinpoint the year, but that's not important.
Speaker 1: What I want to ask you the question is I
Speaker 1: went to high school with um, Dolf's wife. It was
Speaker 1: just one of my homies. You know, we had a
Speaker 1: couple of classes. We grew up in the same neighborhood
Speaker 1: from Detroit. Authentic, you know. Um, I didn't know her
Speaker 1: after high school, but when high school she was solid,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And when Dolf died or
Speaker 1: when Nipsey died, you know, people be I hate when
Speaker 1: I go on the Internet and see another rapper died
Speaker 1: or bullshit like that, because more than that, they the
Speaker 1: pillars in their community. They pillars and they hood right,
Speaker 1: So when I what I wanted to ask you is
Speaker 1: when Pun died, didn't feel like like was it a
Speaker 1: similar energy like when Nip died when when darf went like,
Speaker 1: how was it or was it different back then? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. No, it's definitely wasn't different. It's
Speaker 1: Pun Pun dime was different for me. This great question,
Speaker 1: and I don't think I've got to asked that question,
Speaker 1: especially not on this platform. Um, when Pun died was
Speaker 1: different because it's funked up for me to say, it's
Speaker 1: gonna sound so crazy. I'm used to it being a shootout.
Speaker 1: I'm used to it being the driver. I'm used to
Speaker 1: it being uh, you know, a stabbing like you know,
Speaker 1: I remember going to Punt's casket and everyone had like
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes at Punt's casket and I was standing there,
Speaker 1: I was sitting down. I was frozen and I just froze.
Speaker 1: So I didn't know if I was there fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: or twenty five minutes or thirty minutes, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: But I remember all the terrost car coming up to me.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, he's not in pain no more. So I
Speaker 1: was like in pain, like what like I almost was
Speaker 1: offended that they told me that, Like, what do you
Speaker 1: mean in pain? Because I've never seen Punt in pain.
Speaker 1: But what I realized. What I realized was Pun was
Speaker 1: an acting in front of me. Me and him was friends,
Speaker 1: so when he was in pain, he never showed it
Speaker 1: to me. So it would be times when we'll be talking,
Speaker 1: just like how me you right now, we're all talking
Speaker 1: and Pun will fall to sleep. So he was Ye.
Speaker 1: So I used to think I was boring. Ye, I
Speaker 1: heard that I heard on stage one time. Fun Oh,
Speaker 1: I just I don't know about that, but I'm talking
Speaker 1: about me and him just conversing, so I just think
Speaker 1: it was me. I was like, all right, let me
Speaker 1: step my story up a song, like because I don't
Speaker 1: want to motherfucker falling asleep on me. And what I
Speaker 1: didn't know about KNOCOLEPSI. I didn't know about sleep apnea.
Speaker 1: I didn't know about none of that ship. So that's
Speaker 1: the reason why Punt is hit a little different, because
Speaker 1: Puns really could have been just like Nipsey and just
Speaker 1: like um who else were were talking about? For god, Dolf,
Speaker 1: just like Dolf Um. I actually like literally told Dolf
Speaker 1: you know, and I really took a liking to him,
Speaker 1: and he really took a liking to me because I
Speaker 1: was like his first interview where I didn't bring up,
Speaker 1: you know, the opposition, the other side that he was
Speaker 1: supposed to be beefing with. So if you look at
Speaker 1: the whole interview, I'd never bring that up. So when
Speaker 1: the interview was done, you know, he walks up to
Speaker 1: me and e F and he goes, thank you all,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, we're doing our job. But
Speaker 1: he's like he really understood what we what we we're
Speaker 1: doing by not bringing up that because it would have
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know because I don't know
Speaker 1: where this situation is at now. And I'm sure you
Speaker 1: understand what. But one of the things I wanted to
Speaker 1: say though about that, because they just feel like lately
Speaker 1: it's been tragedy after tragedy after fucking traghicy. Do you
Speaker 1: think being a rappers the dangerous drop in America? I
Speaker 1: think one of them. I think being a human being is.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the forest, but yeah, I mean every of
Speaker 1: course it is. It is because everything is amplified. And
Speaker 1: but let me say something though. When I saw the
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg interview, and he was talking about how when
Speaker 1: he rapped about being on a murder case, he was
Speaker 1: up on trial for murder. He said, that's the first
Speaker 1: time I saw my words. Yeah, manifest and as human beings,
Speaker 1: we had a power to create anything, right that we want.
Speaker 1: We are a guy body. Right. It's like when we
Speaker 1: say we when we broke and then we talked about
Speaker 1: we being rich, Yeah, rapped and then actually, yeah, I
Speaker 1: talked about being on mail rolls before I even stepped
Speaker 1: foot on mail roads or going on Yeah, okay, that's
Speaker 1: going on shopping spreezes before I went on shopping spreee. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, goddamn, let's let's go. Let's let's go. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying Snoop saying he wrapped about murder and was
Speaker 1: on trial for murder. Okay, So what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: we don't want that type of case. No, we don't.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is as people and as rappers
Speaker 1: or musicians, our voices get amplified as it does. So
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, when we wrap about things
Speaker 1: like that, are buying our parents the house, are buying
Speaker 1: our you know, grandparents, you know, whatever, taking care of
Speaker 1: our family. All the things we wrap about when we
Speaker 1: rap about the all those other things though that we
Speaker 1: rap about. I hate it when it manifesting that attractions
Speaker 1: to a I hate it when it manifesting that way.
Speaker 1: I hate it when motherfucker's rapping about that ship and
Speaker 1: in it happened. And that's one of the cases that
Speaker 1: I see happen over and over, and I wonder if
Speaker 1: artists will be more conscious to that. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know like I loved I loved um when you
Speaker 1: rolled up. I love the fact you know a lot
Speaker 1: of us, like you know, get to a certain level player.
Speaker 1: I don't need security. I'm gonna tell you, man, you
Speaker 1: know places that you go as wild places, keep yourself security,
Speaker 1: Like don't don't go a lot of places without security. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but don't let people get you, man, keep keep that.
Speaker 1: So this is leta. I'm gonna keep it rid on.
Speaker 1: I'm one of those peop But I go to like
Speaker 1: the fucking movies by myself. I do. I'll just be
Speaker 1: going out and just like I like having I like
Speaker 1: having that. I like having that a long time. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just keep it real with you. I'm not
Speaker 1: a straight nigger like that from the streets. But that's
Speaker 1: something that I chose not to be a part of necessarily.
Speaker 1: And who we did is in brent Wood or something
Speaker 1: like that, only brent Wood. Don't be going over locker,
Speaker 1: just tell you all right. So look, it's called quick
Speaker 1: time or slim, So if you pick both being political
Speaker 1: being politically correct because you know, we all got friends
Speaker 1: in hip hop. So if I asked you a question, yeah,
Speaker 1: so we all drink. So you take a shot. So
Speaker 1: this is the shot. Did you take not? That's your drink.
Speaker 1: But it's called quick time or slim, so it's just
Speaker 1: one or the other, or you can pick both. You
Speaker 1: pick both, you take a shot, but neither you take
Speaker 1: a shot. Okay, clear, and you know we're pushing. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, be under contract, we up to
Speaker 1: my den or vote people in the building, Surkan building everything. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Dracer Wayne Wayne, Oh that was easy, scar Face
Speaker 1: of ice Cube. You take a shot. Wait, hold on, Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta think about this. I was pushing to doo
Speaker 1: much on that song. And just to be clear, Drac
Speaker 1: or Wayne, because it would be no Drake with I. Wayne.
Speaker 1: So you've went Wayne, I forgot I went Wayne, Okay,
Speaker 1: yes it makes sense, um, Cube or scar Face, Scarf,
Speaker 1: you can take a shot. You gotta make it that hard.
Speaker 1: I love we gotta love both. No no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, I'll choose one. You choose, I choose one.
Speaker 1: I choose cute. Okay, yeah, cute. Cute. By the way,
Speaker 1: is my man scar Face. I don't know him as
Speaker 1: personally as I know Cube, but when he came to
Speaker 1: the dude, you know, we rolled around and like showed
Speaker 1: a lot of the game, a lot of game, and
Speaker 1: on top of that, just like a lot of his
Speaker 1: songs was definitely you know, some of the like definitely
Speaker 1: was in the soundtrack of My Life for show Good
Speaker 1: as to Day, you know what I'm saying, A lot
Speaker 1: of them today. It was a good day, right, um
Speaker 1: outcast or UK, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, good as day
Speaker 1: as the detrait song today was a good damn trick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with y'all, y'all, um bun hit me
Speaker 1: up today. Actually you g K so outcast A U
Speaker 1: g K you're going k like on what aspect? Shot?
Speaker 1: That's a shot. That's a shot. Yeah, that's a yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you take whatever you want but I was just with
Speaker 1: Big Boy too, So yeah, I mean this songs like
Speaker 1: a shot to me. You gotta but when you say that,
Speaker 1: what the funk are you talking about? For you whatever?
Speaker 1: For specific So that sounds like a shot to me.
Speaker 1: It's a straight shot. I'm dirty only Mama Wuanna, that's mama,
Speaker 1: want to trust trust me? What is it? Dominican? Mamajuanna? Homemade?
Speaker 1: Is it? So? What is it in the bottom? Try something?
Speaker 1: Let's try something. Okay, It's okay, okay, alright, alright, we
Speaker 1: show is sorry, this show start. Let's go turn the eye.
Speaker 1: Slo Salo solo, solo by My Water for the win.
Speaker 1: That's good. That's good. Now I'm gonna give your criteria
Speaker 1: to this one. Okay. By the way, by the way,
Speaker 1: I'm tired of a motherucking y'alls. That's cool. We're talking
Speaker 1: to drinking with you. I'm gonna go there, but just
Speaker 1: turn Okay, let's worry about it. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: M this one. I'm gonna give you a criteria. This
Speaker 1: is just producer only. Okay, no emotions to this one,
Speaker 1: Kanye for no emotions, he said to this, I got
Speaker 1: my job. Just producers just producers. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: that's that's I'm gonna go with, for real, for producers.
Speaker 1: He's a little personal. I like it. No, it's not.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. I tell you why because the
Speaker 1: fact that for U has been popping and had number
Speaker 1: not only just number number ones and all the chart
Speaker 1: ship I'm talking about has had impact on three different
Speaker 1: decades as a producer. So to me, that's some of
Speaker 1: the most impressive ship anybody could do. And you know,
Speaker 1: and in his latest years to have a number one
Speaker 1: record of his own and he produced and uh happy
Speaker 1: and I'm happy. Yeah, I'm talking about happy and didn't
Speaker 1: at the same time doing daft punk shit and at
Speaker 1: the same time doing other things. I think that that
Speaker 1: is just that's incredible. I mean, discovered that, nig what
Speaker 1: what about for us? I'm going for Come on, that's different.
Speaker 1: I've actually never actually worked with Kanye as a producer producer, right,
Speaker 1: but for real's you know, he shaped the mold my career.
Speaker 1: He came to me with a tight ass coat on
Speaker 1: in a tight ass shirt and said, if you listen
Speaker 1: to me, be going number one. It was a shirt
Speaker 1: and a coat, both of them was type. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I just said, you know, you can look at somebody
Speaker 1: like I believe you, and I just believe that he
Speaker 1: was nobody at the time I with the card, but
Speaker 1: I believe the obviously you know that that don't take
Speaker 1: away to impact Kayae had as a producer to But
Speaker 1: because we're gonna go back to that. Okay, put your
Speaker 1: tea or two, change your criteria whatever you want to change. Well,
Speaker 1: hold up, cause hold up you when you when you
Speaker 1: went fast? What is the criteria that you whatever you want?
Speaker 1: And they called yesterday that's your criteria. We haven't text
Speaker 1: you recently to chains. Yeah, I hear push it. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the fun going on. Ship. That's good
Speaker 1: music ship, all right, I know, but but I know
Speaker 1: he lost his mom something. Yeah. I totally forgot about that.
Speaker 1: Push and he would killer he had killer on them
Speaker 1: beats push the team for show. Yeah, okay, I'm Ari
Speaker 1: on the Grande or Janelle Ico. Sorry in the criteria, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that. You know what I mean. I've just
Speaker 1: slexic be established We established that already. Yeah, only did
Speaker 1: I correct you? Yeah, is the only person who I've
Speaker 1: ever been in like four relationships at once with she's
Speaker 1: been a friend, she's been a group member, she's been
Speaker 1: a romantic partner, and she's been up here. So that's
Speaker 1: the only person that I've had so many connections with
Speaker 1: that one. So that's why. So you're gonna walk, I mean, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: it's all respecting love, you know, DMX or Tupac. This
Speaker 1: a shot? No, No, it's not. Okay, I forgot you
Speaker 1: got the GPS up there. D MX had g B
Speaker 1: a g B. Yeah, that's that um fleshing my flesh,
Speaker 1: blood of my blood. Like when that came out, that
Speaker 1: was one of the first rap albums that I truly
Speaker 1: got into, you know what I'm saying, So flush on
Speaker 1: my flesh, bood my blos when he's in the tub
Speaker 1: with that's when you dropped, and that's when you dropped.
Speaker 1: Those albums back to back that had an impact on me.
Speaker 1: But also All Eyes on Me was one of the
Speaker 1: first albums too that I really got into. And if
Speaker 1: I had to pick one, I'm gonna have to take
Speaker 1: a shot. Okay, I was because you're thinking way to you.
Speaker 1: By the way, the regional question is darkness, hell us
Speaker 1: hot versus All Eyes on Me. So so what the
Speaker 1: fun I changed. Yeah, Yeah, I'm just lexic. Just just
Speaker 1: blame everything is just lexic. Soli h. I don't know
Speaker 1: where you gonna go with this, Nicki Minaj or Cardi B.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get me fucked up. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that means out of here or you're gonna drink another shot.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but I'm I'm willing
Speaker 1: to go wherever you want to go. If I had
Speaker 1: to pick one one in one way, this is your criteria.
Speaker 1: Why are you making me pick between two? Quick? Bro?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say. This, This is meant
Speaker 1: for you to drink. This is why it's cooled to drop.
Speaker 1: You know, Nicki Minajs, we got more history obviously, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So and see a rap legend period.
Speaker 1: You know, we with the songs that we got together.
Speaker 1: To me are I haven't worked with Cardi B yet,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I obviously got respect for
Speaker 1: both of them, But obviously if I had to pay
Speaker 1: between the two and I gotta go, I gotta roll
Speaker 1: with Nikki like that podcast or radio podcast. I like that.
Speaker 1: I should take a shot for that. We should take
Speaker 1: a shot for that. You don't have to. It was
Speaker 1: all the way by the way. Radio changed my life.
Speaker 1: Podcast changed my life too, and one of my biggest
Speaker 1: goals in life was to hear my song on the radio.
Speaker 1: But that sounds but no, no, no, no, no no no,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just saying later on in my life,
Speaker 1: I've been on more on the podcast. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I like getting straight to it. You know,
Speaker 1: radio would be like radio, we're back with were ready
Speaker 1: to go right now. But Biggie or Tupac, Biggie I
Speaker 1: like that Tupac was that nigga too, but Biggie b
Speaker 1: I g Big Sean. That's why I literally he was
Speaker 1: definitely something like part of the inspiration why I chose
Speaker 1: Big Sean, not Little Sean, not young Sean. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And that's I chose that name at
Speaker 1: ten years old, you know what I'm saying. That's when
Speaker 1: I chose, That's when I chose my rap name. Stuck
Speaker 1: with it because of I and Big pun too and
Speaker 1: Big that's beautiful to say that Young Jeez or Rick Ross.
Speaker 1: Can we still call him young Jeez? Why are you
Speaker 1: making me choose, bro, I don't want to. I don't
Speaker 1: want to. I want you drink. It's not about you
Speaker 1: big choosing you could drink and have fun. That The
Speaker 1: thing is, Jeez had more of an impact on me
Speaker 1: being from Detroit. That's like a second home because that's right,
Speaker 1: being Math, not just being Math. I mean, yeah, of
Speaker 1: course be met, but because of just his music that way,
Speaker 1: it impacted Detroit at the time when I was in
Speaker 1: the clubs and ship Jeez, you know, and Jeez came
Speaker 1: a little bit before Ross too, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And just so the respect is there for both. I
Speaker 1: gotta go, I gotta roll with Jeszy. Okay, this one
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a little sucked up. Oh no, the
Speaker 1: next one you gonna I'm not sure this one being
Speaker 1: meth for the Cheder Boys. I mean, I'm a Cheder
Speaker 1: boy baby, that's for sure. You know. It was just
Speaker 1: it was another thing. It was like the impact, the impact.
Speaker 1: That's like I feel like being Memphis a little bit
Speaker 1: before my time, right, a little bit like I'm talking
Speaker 1: about like, okay, yeah, when I was rolling around like
Speaker 1: Chado boys had that ship a lot, you know, when
Speaker 1: I was in middle school, I feel like being Memphis
Speaker 1: before I could even really listen to any ship like that,
Speaker 1: you know, it was getting locked out. My mom wasn't
Speaker 1: happening it, you know what I mean. But being math
Speaker 1: going crazy right now, you know, shout out a little me,
Speaker 1: shout out fifty shot at everybody that ship. I like
Speaker 1: how they I like how they're painting the picture of
Speaker 1: the city. I'm gonna I'm gonna gonna watch you don't
Speaker 1: don't blow it up for me. You know, I'm avenge
Speaker 1: watcher huh four two because you said he said his
Speaker 1: name is not forty two. It's four to huh four
Speaker 1: two dog rotiguously you can take a shot. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: ain't picking between That's what I'm saying. It's like a shot,
Speaker 1: like a shot. All right. Why don't you look at
Speaker 1: Hennessey right now? Wanna you could give m a little
Speaker 1: bit more than that. Wanna take a little We'll take
Speaker 1: you take the forty two. Come get me funked up
Speaker 1: in here? Yeah exactly, this is This is is the point.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. M Okay,
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna pick between you dream dog or dog
Speaker 1: you cat? How many more questions do you got by
Speaker 1: a couple of months when they copy dragged a couple? Yeah? Bro,
Speaker 1: what the fun dreaming? Do you want to go a shot?
Speaker 1: I mean cat, don't. I don't know what the mix.
Speaker 1: I don't want to Huh, you want to take a shot?
Speaker 1: I know does a cat? I don't think I've even
Speaker 1: met dream dog, So you're gonna do alright? I don't
Speaker 1: even know the Kendrick or Jay Cole? Are you saying
Speaker 1: that this is on you? I love both the niggers. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go. What shot you want? Oh sho,
Speaker 1: you got an explanation. I've been I've been a calls
Speaker 1: house though. Kendrick being in my house before, she's making
Speaker 1: his personal No. But I'm just saying, Jake Cale opened
Speaker 1: his doors to me. That's like I'm gonna go with Cal.
Speaker 1: I respect that. I respect that Jacle opened his doors
Speaker 1: his family. You know what I'm saying? Okay, yeah, big
Speaker 1: pun of big Al big Ail was the killer with
Speaker 1: those words. Bro, he was a fucking killer, so it
Speaker 1: was punned too. You can take a show now. I
Speaker 1: ain't taking a shot. I could pick mother, I could
Speaker 1: pick goddamnit. I'm gonna go with Big Alka. The lyricism,
Speaker 1: the word play. Both of them had that, but it
Speaker 1: was something about Big l that just shocked me. The
Speaker 1: metaphors and ship like how he was putting the things together.
Speaker 1: It just got me, like, you know off that okay
Speaker 1: o d Bo Bismarcki oh to be dealer, Primo dealer,
Speaker 1: pap for dre puff Uh. Like like you tell my
Speaker 1: producer or rapper, whatever the funk you want, whatever you want, Nigi,
Speaker 1: what the fuck wherever you are? Whatever I want, producer, producer.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a shot to me. Then you just
Speaker 1: picked both. I can't crol side as you produce, you
Speaker 1: crol sides just now you d we gotta take you
Speaker 1: gotta take a shot. Let's go, let's go. Let's go
Speaker 1: take a shot with your preface. Whatever you want, you want.
Speaker 1: Then you got a motherfucking fix this ship and make
Speaker 1: it look like I picked both of them. Then we
Speaker 1: got this shot. Rest my mamana, I don't funk with it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna being honest. I can't believe Sean, that ship
Speaker 1: is crazy. Gotta gotta got okay, this one wrong. Okay,
Speaker 1: baby Face Ray or real Young g Rio, the Young
Speaker 1: Old Gal the young get these names. I'm sorry, you
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna put some. I'm sorry. I love these guys. No,
Speaker 1: you gotta understand that the blueprint that the and the
Speaker 1: impact that they're having on the whole industry right now,
Speaker 1: real young old g baby Face Ray vs veso uh
Speaker 1: Pas pay roll. So sounds like you're taking a shot
Speaker 1: that should be clear. No, no, no, I'm just letting
Speaker 1: you know, like they don't. You gotta make sure you're
Speaker 1: gonos these names. I'm trying, my bodie, James, you gotta
Speaker 1: announce it. It's like that's why we're out here. We're
Speaker 1: trying to give the respect show. Um, so, who is
Speaker 1: it again? Real or baby Face? Free Real? But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with baby Face but free Real though, okay?
Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas or Joe Dumarsh Isaiah Zeke. Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: drunk with Iaia Hyeah. Yeah. I stepped to him about
Speaker 1: Bad Boys, just like, yeah, it would be you know,
Speaker 1: it would be no Michael Jordan without the Bad Boys period,
Speaker 1: eminem or worse the five nine get a shot ready?
Speaker 1: I can pick is that it's nothing produce? What's yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's you going? Um? Worse the five on is my
Speaker 1: literal big brother. So I gotta go to Royce Eminem
Speaker 1: like I said, God didn't see, God didn't see and
Speaker 1: dream comes true to work with. But Royce, I've been
Speaker 1: in the trenches for Royce. Shot Royce. I'm saying I
Speaker 1: hadn't been in a real trenches for real. Okay, Kevin
Speaker 1: hard Day Chappelle, what about you, Kevin Arder, Dave Chappelle,
Speaker 1: you know, this is the greatest thing about this part.
Speaker 1: It's my name on the show. It's all about you.
Speaker 1: We're giving you your flowers. You see from I was saying,
Speaker 1: that's just say your name. Brother. Dave Chappelle is on
Speaker 1: Detroit too. Yeah, Dave Chappelle is on Detroit. Dave Chappelle's
Speaker 1: to Carey my dad at a at a at a
Speaker 1: show twice. Wow. Yeah. When I first met Dave Chappelle,
Speaker 1: he was like, I love your dad, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Three and three in the morning and
Speaker 1: getting back from Vegas PJ on it at the private airport.
Speaker 1: I'm walking off. He's getting on the plane. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle, man, I'm like a huge fan. He's like,
Speaker 1: I love your dad. That's the first thing he said
Speaker 1: to me. I'm like, what the are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Because my dad ended up doing a skit on Dark
Speaker 1: Sky Paradise on my album. I'm thinking he just heard that.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, I was kicking in with your dad.
Speaker 1: Then I go into this phone conversation I had with
Speaker 1: my dad. You know when you're ars call you and
Speaker 1: they'd be talking, you know, talking, just be like uh.
Speaker 1: He was like yes, So I was at the Dave
Speaker 1: Chappelle show to me backstage, and I was backstage, man,
Speaker 1: I'm like, huh, all right, dad, I love you man, alright, piece.
Speaker 1: I just thought, you know, because my dad just be
Speaker 1: going sometimes it talks to me for like two hours straight.
Speaker 1: This motherfucker. Dave Chappelle was like, I love your dad.
Speaker 1: Had him back there smoking blunts, had him back there
Speaker 1: smoking blund God telling me lle got damn. Okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Chris Brown to Jeremiah Chris Brown because I ain't gotta
Speaker 1: give a reason you don't both of them, but yeah
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Okay, Metro booming or here boy, here boy.
Speaker 1: I liked it. That loyalty or respect loyalty. Now I
Speaker 1: gotta x y because you can respect somebody and still
Speaker 1: fund them over With loyalty, you don't think about that person. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, when you loyal to that person, you're gonna
Speaker 1: always hold them and think about them in a different
Speaker 1: way than necessarily, like having a respect for somebody can
Speaker 1: just be completely thrown out the window at any time,
Speaker 1: because I feel like loyalty is more for it for everything,
Speaker 1: and respect it's more of a moment thing. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying both, because that wasn't the question. You
Speaker 1: can pick both, you can, but you got to get shot.
Speaker 1: That's the reason why you ain't big both. But yeah,
Speaker 1: because I was a drunk as answer. Yeah, it's great though,
Speaker 1: it's great, it's great. So um now let's move one
Speaker 1: right click, Yeah, it's record. Mm hmm, go on there
Speaker 1: with two giants. Yeah, your verse comes first as an artist, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I come from the era I came from at one
Speaker 1: point pause of the eerror where the artist has the
Speaker 1: most impact is the last verse right right. But then
Speaker 1: in the new era, is the artist with the first first?
Speaker 1: You think so, because sometimes we've change, it changes, but
Speaker 1: thin this error at this time, especially when you with
Speaker 1: these other two ot coms, they let you go first.
Speaker 1: Is it because your verse was laid first? Yeah? It
Speaker 1: was okay, that was simple. My verse was like at first,
Speaker 1: I did the hook in the verse and sport. Now,
Speaker 1: what are you under the impression of this versus? For what?
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I just was in the studio. It
Speaker 1: was in London. He was right next to Buckingham Palace.
Speaker 1: I love I love his flaws in London, next to
Speaker 1: bunk here. I love hit boy at too. Who will
Speaker 1: produce click? Um, so you met him, you said, that's
Speaker 1: what I meant. Well, that's the where I first worked
Speaker 1: with him. Okay. I met him actually one time before
Speaker 1: that at Buckingham Palace and everybody was out there pushing
Speaker 1: to John Legend here boy. Yeah, uh, Manny Fresh was
Speaker 1: out there. Um, there's a lot of people out there.
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting probably like a lot of people because you
Speaker 1: made me drink all sucking shots. It's okay, it's more
Speaker 1: to come, okay, Okay. So yeah, it was just an idea.
Speaker 1: We were working on this one song and the ship
Speaker 1: was like whack as hell. It was a beat that
Speaker 1: was just like ship was going on for a long time.
Speaker 1: It's a song that never came out, and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: we need to switch this ship up. Man, this ship
Speaker 1: is whack. And there was already a hook on there.
Speaker 1: I was like, this ship fucking trash. So we lowed
Speaker 1: it up another beat or Doncy was like, well, what
Speaker 1: other beat we're gonna you know, you know, it's impressure,
Speaker 1: so like what other people were gonna load up? You know,
Speaker 1: I don't remember what he said, Doncy is my brother.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying for real, love your impressure them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can do. That's a hidden talent. I get a
Speaker 1: lot of impressions. But anyway, we lowed up a beat
Speaker 1: and the first thing that comes on, I do this
Speaker 1: ship in like two minutes. I said, anybody sun on
Speaker 1: my click click click later hood everybody like you know,
Speaker 1: everybody like that's all right, it's all right, like to
Speaker 1: hook lead your lagborhood. Then I do a verse and
Speaker 1: the like it's it's tight, it's tight. Then you come
Speaker 1: back and hear it and he's like, this is the
Speaker 1: motherfucker this this ship crazy? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And next thing I know, time goes on. Because we
Speaker 1: were working on other songs Mercy and by the way,
Speaker 1: all these songs I did like back then there was
Speaker 1: just freestyles. But I wasn't even trying on none of
Speaker 1: that ship really, none of it. Bro. I just was
Speaker 1: like going in there freestyling, like on mercy click, don't
Speaker 1: like just have you know, just just just do you know,
Speaker 1: just to be productive, like all right, fucking I'm a freestyle.
Speaker 1: And anyway, he heard it and everybody laid a verse on.
Speaker 1: It was like eight verses and then I guess it
Speaker 1: got to hold. Now this is part of the story
Speaker 1: where I wasn't there, so I don't know the exact details,
Speaker 1: but it went from eight verses to the whole click
Speaker 1: on there to nobody's verse being on there because Hole
Speaker 1: was on there. But somehow my ship got left on there,
Speaker 1: you know. And when I had to, when I the conversation,
Speaker 1: when yeah, he was like, you know, whole states, you
Speaker 1: gotta stay on have mother fun. You know, he was like,
Speaker 1: you gotta keep keep Shawn on there. So that was
Speaker 1: a monumental moment for me. A lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of niggers definitely got songs with wove Oorya, so let
Speaker 1: along both of them. Goddamn may now now loyal to
Speaker 1: a fault feature embracing Tiller a little dirt. What is what?
Speaker 1: What are you trying to say? Loyal to a fault?
Speaker 1: What does what does that exactly mean? That's just some
Speaker 1: relatable ship that people be loyal to a fault? Yeah,
Speaker 1: people be You've been loyal to a full absolutely in
Speaker 1: what situation ship? One of the situations that we could
Speaker 1: talk about. I don't know if you're ready to talk
Speaker 1: about is good music? Okay not yet? Okay, my back?
Speaker 1: Can you give me another situation? Because because I'm leading
Speaker 1: up to it, you know, I got it. It's a
Speaker 1: certain build up. You want another shot, I feel like
Speaker 1: you want to Okay, okay, later later, But loyal to
Speaker 1: a fault, that's just I feel like that a lot
Speaker 1: of times in my life, bro where you know, when
Speaker 1: you're really loyal to somebody, you're gonna put up with
Speaker 1: them and like, I don't know, just give it all
Speaker 1: you got, you know what I'm saying. And I know
Speaker 1: a lot of women can relate to that song. A
Speaker 1: lot of men can relate to that song of just
Speaker 1: like even just going past your personal threshold of like
Speaker 1: your tolerance of fucking being annoyed, you know. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that song is a song I wrote from you know,
Speaker 1: accumulation of personal experiences. You know what I mean? Alright?
Speaker 1: That one of everyone's like favorite like to play song
Speaker 1: to play after they break up with the ex, or
Speaker 1: they break up with like or they ain't fucking with
Speaker 1: their friends no more. I don't funk with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where was you had when you didn't want to funk
Speaker 1: with you? I don't with you. We can talk about it.
Speaker 1: It ain't no secret that. Um okay, it's a sensitive subject. Really,
Speaker 1: it's a sensitive subject. How does artists make sensitive subjects public?
Speaker 1: That's what the fun we were crazy? I'm with you
Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, but what do you want to know
Speaker 1: about the song? It's a breakup song. It's a breakup song. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was how I was feeling in the moment, and
Speaker 1: I just put this ship on the record, simplest that.
Speaker 1: I didn't think about it. I was in the studio,
Speaker 1: Mustard he put the beat on. That was the first
Speaker 1: thing that popped in my head. I thought about too
Speaker 1: short a little bit, something like I thought about like
Speaker 1: that's how forty water got involved. So I was I
Speaker 1: was gonna I was gonna put too short. I was
Speaker 1: gonna put two short on there. Don't tell me forty
Speaker 1: waters the backup. No, not the backup, because but then
Speaker 1: I grew up on a forty, Right, there's a special
Speaker 1: connection between the band Detroit. I grew up on the
Speaker 1: forty and and I was like cooking too short on
Speaker 1: this bitch, and then forty popped in my head and
Speaker 1: that ship just felt like ship just was like you know,
Speaker 1: when you think of the idea, it's like, dam I
Speaker 1: want to get the forty on this motherfucker going crazy?
Speaker 1: And you call said, what's up my wee wolves? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he wass poking out like nippings. He was like the song.
Speaker 1: He was like just poking out like some nippers. I love.
Speaker 1: He said that. He was like, it's official, like turf
Speaker 1: on you know, forty that's my man saying that was
Speaker 1: one of the people that was a dream collaboration to sho.
Speaker 1: I still got to make the two short one happen
Speaker 1: on another song. But yeah, forty really, I remember when
Speaker 1: I played that song for Beyonce and for Home before
Speaker 1: I came out, and just the reaction and yeah, too, everybody,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you just said that very non Sally, we
Speaker 1: just you just said you just played what beyond? And
Speaker 1: Beyonce yeah, you put like, yeah, me give it the
Speaker 1: respect because Ho was on who invited me over to
Speaker 1: play the music, and then Beyonce kindly joined us. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I love the floors. I
Speaker 1: love the floor and that we had dinner and I
Speaker 1: was playing them songs. I was playing them Dark Sky
Speaker 1: Paradise and I don't think what you came on and
Speaker 1: they face lit up, and I remember how of texting
Speaker 1: me said, every day you don't put that song out,
Speaker 1: you're losing. Every day you don't put that song out,
Speaker 1: you're losing. And I remember when I first played it
Speaker 1: for Yea Yeah, it was like, oh um, he was like,
Speaker 1: I need to hop on his motherfucker. I think. Man.
Speaker 1: He was like, let me maybe we should add a
Speaker 1: sample to it. So then that's when a sample, like
Speaker 1: the idea of adding a sample to it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and myamie Kiwaine came up with the sample, added it
Speaker 1: to that, and I elevated it um with the DJ
Speaker 1: Muster sound and it just gave it like a all
Speaker 1: encompass and representation of just like I felt like Detroit
Speaker 1: because it was like the Bay Area connection with forty
Speaker 1: that's like some person on the styles and shipped for
Speaker 1: me the sample at the beginning. And then just like
Speaker 1: Mustard was the hottest producer at the time, not you
Speaker 1: know what's dope was because Mustard does everyone does like
Speaker 1: like relate his sound to like the Bay Area type
Speaker 1: of thing. But the fact got that authent in West
Speaker 1: Coast sound, West Coast sound. But the fact is I
Speaker 1: love that you um incorporated West Coast o g yeah
Speaker 1: forty because I'm telling you the d and the West Coast,
Speaker 1: like the trade in California got like a crazy Connection's beautiful.
Speaker 1: What you didn't have to do that. I really respected that.
Speaker 1: Like I heard that, I was like, damn, it made
Speaker 1: it hard to hate. You know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: I was actually I got I got roots in both.
Speaker 1: I was born in California, get THET was born in California.
Speaker 1: Moved to De Traite when I was like a month old,
Speaker 1: so before I even you know, before I was even
Speaker 1: really conscious and ship. But yeah, I was actually born
Speaker 1: in California. So I do have a home in both places,
Speaker 1: and I feel a sense at home. But Detroit is
Speaker 1: a Detroit is a city that you know, maybe you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I prospect that. So let's get
Speaker 1: it to offense featuring four to Yeah and Baby Face Ray. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get into that. How what made you want to
Speaker 1: do that? That's the two young shooters from the City
Speaker 1: Shooters Snipers Snipers, and I said, they didn't correct this.
Speaker 1: Yeah I did. Yes, you did my life together. It
Speaker 1: was just uh me and Baby Face Ray was in
Speaker 1: the session one night and that was that was one
Speaker 1: of the ones that came on. We just didn't did
Speaker 1: that song on the spot. And then I thought about
Speaker 1: I did a song for four or two that he
Speaker 1: had sent it to me at the last minute and
Speaker 1: I sent the verse back like a day later. He
Speaker 1: sent it to me like he needed it right back,
Speaker 1: and I think I sent it like a couple of
Speaker 1: days or something like that, and it was like a
Speaker 1: deadline that I missed. And then I was like, that
Speaker 1: should sentis to four two. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: just just you know, for the city. So that's how
Speaker 1: it came about easy Yeah, motherfucker's I love that song
Speaker 1: on offense. I'm on offense. Yeah, that's all the ship
Speaker 1: now bounce. You said something about your dad. He said,
Speaker 1: your dad is a gonna bound yeahs back. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you said your dad is a g get it from genetics,
Speaker 1: and that's what you just said that Dave Chappelle was
Speaker 1: hanging out with my daddy of a flare. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but what's funny is here's a funny story used to
Speaker 1: get on my dad for and these leather pants. I thought,
Speaker 1: this is the dumbest Eddie Murphy leather pants, like leather pants,
Speaker 1: like Eddie Murphy styff style. Okay, yeah, but just not shiny,
Speaker 1: but like you know that like real, like like the dog.
Speaker 1: It's not not patting leather like leather leather leather like
Speaker 1: for no reason. He was just taking me to school,
Speaker 1: but my da would take me to school every morning.
Speaker 1: He would teach me a lot of ship. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm in third right, He telling me about like eating pussy.
Speaker 1: He's telling me about like all sorts of ship, my dad.
Speaker 1: But that's what you're supposed to hear that type that's
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to hear that type of bees telling
Speaker 1: about all these things. But he also had a thing
Speaker 1: called the word of the day. He was like, so
Speaker 1: the word of the day is ambiguous, what is you know?
Speaker 1: It tells me what it means okay now, And at
Speaker 1: the end of the day when he would pick me up,
Speaker 1: he'd be like, so, what's the word of the day.
Speaker 1: What does it mean? So he we did that every day.
Speaker 1: But I used to get on his ass for wearing
Speaker 1: these leather pants, like she got these leather pants on
Speaker 1: for you know what I'm saying. He I used to
Speaker 1: like when he would pick me up from school, he
Speaker 1: was sometimes to be hugging a tree. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: the fund are you doing that? You're embarrassing me, man,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. And now my ass
Speaker 1: I've been doing going on hikes, motherfucker looking at the
Speaker 1: tree like tree you went to, Josh a big sir,
Speaker 1: all over the place. I went to the south of France.
Speaker 1: I go a lot of places hype. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: josh On tree. I've never been a Josh Tree. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take much room to go there. Yeah you took
Speaker 1: much rooms in there, Yes you did. Yeah, look quick
Speaker 1: for me being point well actually not there. But mushrooms
Speaker 1: are big shirt. But you know it's similar vibe, all right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's jobs for tree. But anyway, um so yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'm walking to stage yesterday to perform, and I have
Speaker 1: on leather pants and my dad is like leather pants.
Speaker 1: It was just crazy. How twenty five years later I
Speaker 1: just knew exactly what the funk he was talking about
Speaker 1: because I would always get on them for that, and
Speaker 1: it's like Detroit player, It's it's just it's supported period.
Speaker 1: I can't see it back then. Listen, man, but now
Speaker 1: I'll be rocking leather pants all the time. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you something before, like, if you like, like you
Speaker 1: gotta have a pair of Gators, Marie Gators. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: That's some Detroit shit though, you know about that? Yes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I went to the Players Ball. I went to the
Speaker 1: players ball. A whole bunch of money we need nowhere
Speaker 1: near pimp we need. It was a bad move for me.
Speaker 1: It wasn't me all right, But um, what a life?
Speaker 1: You said? You went triple platinum at least three times.
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's make some let's make some noise for that.
Speaker 1: Let's let's describe that to these people right now. Triple
Speaker 1: platinum at least three times? Credible, bro, change my family life,
Speaker 1: love going triple platinum? Yeah, I mean, what do I
Speaker 1: say about that? I've had a lot of songs that
Speaker 1: went triple four or five times six times platinum. Um,
Speaker 1: and it's a beautiful thing, man, It's that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's God. I gotta get that up to God. I
Speaker 1: gotta get that up to the people who supported it
Speaker 1: and made it happen in facts. That's that's that's bigger
Speaker 1: than me for real. But now let's get the deep
Speaker 1: revenge deep reverence. Yeahep reverence. Okay, post Malone, m hm,
Speaker 1: post Malone Wolves ship, I'm working up. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: two different things deep deep reverence. It's with Lipsey Hustle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and um what was to answered both fucking two different songs,
Speaker 1: two different songs. Wolves was written about my grandma, my mom,
Speaker 1: my family just they was wolves with this ship. You know.
Speaker 1: My grandma was a beast with my granddad just like
Speaker 1: it felt like it was that wolf pack energy. Didn't
Speaker 1: do anything for their cubs, for they you know, Um,
Speaker 1: and that's the energy that the trade just breeds. Is
Speaker 1: that loyalty, you know what I'm saying in respect, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so in Deep Reverence, it
Speaker 1: was more so just you know, just barring up and
Speaker 1: talking about what was on my heart. At the time,
Speaker 1: spilling my heart out. You know, that's the song, like
Speaker 1: I said, as we started before Nip had passed away,
Speaker 1: and I didn't have the inspiration to finish it, you know.
Speaker 1: And I learned a lot from that because I think
Speaker 1: one of the last calls I got from him was
Speaker 1: him invited me to his video shoot and I couldn't
Speaker 1: make it, you know. But then I just remember feeling like, damn,
Speaker 1: I wish I could. I wish I would have rearranged
Speaker 1: some ship. And I didn't know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It fucked me up, and it just inspired a whole
Speaker 1: like a whole verse. And now that was the verse. Okay,
Speaker 1: got like two more of these questions that we're gonna
Speaker 1: get into some real ship. Okay beware featuring Wayne feature
Speaker 1: in Jane had Little Wayne. Yeah, So where were you
Speaker 1: at in life? We're gonna making this record? I was.
Speaker 1: I don't remember where I was, man, I can't live.
Speaker 1: I remember doing a song, remember having a song. It
Speaker 1: was just me and Janelle first because and that was big, big, big, yeah.
Speaker 1: So what happened was I do remember that how it happened?
Speaker 1: So I got your n on it. I was a
Speaker 1: fan of her mixtape. She was kind of like more
Speaker 1: so a new artist at the time. That was before
Speaker 1: she was on really you know, like beware. It was
Speaker 1: her first radio song, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: that was the first time she Um was was on there,
Speaker 1: and she sounded perfect. Before it was just me singing.
Speaker 1: She sounded a way better singing. And then I played
Speaker 1: it for Wayne when I was playing Wayne my album
Speaker 1: and he heard like six seconds off it like doom doom, doom, doom, doomdoom.
Speaker 1: When you said, he was like, oh, I'm hopping on
Speaker 1: this motherfucker right right there, right there, and he did
Speaker 1: the verse and the rest is history. That's why. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So Marvin Gay and yeah, Marvin Gay and shot name
Speaker 1: because I don't like I like Marvin, you like the
Speaker 1: song though, I love I love Marvin? Is that nigger?
Speaker 1: Where was you adding that? Like, was you drinking Russian
Speaker 1: River Frances? No, So I do remember that situation. That's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite sharks, Russian River branches. But you
Speaker 1: say that pretty he even messing names up. But I
Speaker 1: was at that time. That's my first one, yeah, ilexic,
Speaker 1: So yeah, um, I had the song on my last
Speaker 1: out at the time, and that was my first see
Speaker 1: Chris hopped on my Chris hopped on my last and
Speaker 1: made that motherfucker go crazy. That was my next question,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So then after that, after
Speaker 1: that was like hit number one on radio. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he gave me the Alley you from Marvin and Sharoney. Um.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, that's basically what happened. Like
Speaker 1: it was one of the songs that we worked on
Speaker 1: and he had and I don't know, I just remember
Speaker 1: it just kind of coming in last minute when we
Speaker 1: was working on the album and dropped that ship and
Speaker 1: that was that was Those were better times for sure.
Speaker 1: And then then before I get into this last one
Speaker 1: Mercy feature when you push your tea and two chains,
Speaker 1: where was you at? I know you spoke about a
Speaker 1: little bit earlier, but it's backstage in Detroit at the
Speaker 1: Palace during UMU concert. Was that, oh, this is the
Speaker 1: same palace we want to test. Okay, okay, the Palace
Speaker 1: like the Malice in the Palace. I love it. And
Speaker 1: he put the beat on and I was his backstage
Speaker 1: freestyle and and then that was the verse I literally
Speaker 1: freestyle and he was like, say, that again, said it again,
Speaker 1: said it again. I'm like, this stupid right here, like
Speaker 1: I thought it was. I was literally just bullshit. And
Speaker 1: then I remember going when we went to London, London,
Speaker 1: the London trip where we made Click happen right after that,
Speaker 1: and I remember him being like this versus the um,
Speaker 1: what do you say, b Sean set the tone on here?
Speaker 1: This is the I'm like, okay, whatever, Like I appreciated it,
Speaker 1: but it's just like, you know, it was one of
Speaker 1: the things that was unexpected for God to do that
Speaker 1: sometimes give you an unexpected blessing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And she went crazy, Okay, what I'm saying now this
Speaker 1: is where after this we're going straight in as as
Speaker 1: as as as uh huh, Bro Like, yeah, you can
Speaker 1: go wherever you want to go with this at this point.
Speaker 1: But Bro, I make a lot of songs, a lot
Speaker 1: of That's one thing that I feel like has helped
Speaker 1: me and hurt me. Sometimes people get to hear in
Speaker 1: the song and be like, oh I funk with him
Speaker 1: or I don't fun with him, like off of this,
Speaker 1: But I make so any different styles of songs that
Speaker 1: I'll just be one of motherfucker's to come on a
Speaker 1: journey with me. Bro, I'll be taking my critical hat
Speaker 1: off and I'll just be having fun with the ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I got songs like Paradise
Speaker 1: where I'm spending like a motherfucker's, songs like deep reverence
Speaker 1: one man could change the world, songs like As, songs
Speaker 1: like Marvin and Charney, songs like I Don't Know Bro,
Speaker 1: like you know Memories, songs like all these different songs.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I wish motherfucker's hauld just come on
Speaker 1: and just come on a journey with me, Bro, come
Speaker 1: on a journey with me. Okay, so no, no, but
Speaker 1: As was an amazing that. You know, that's quite druple platinum. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Nikki went on that Bitch
Speaker 1: and Body that and that was after it was out.
Speaker 1: That was my only record, that remix. Correct, she jumped
Speaker 1: on the remix. She jumped on the remix. But that's
Speaker 1: because the ship was going crazy. Radio stations was playing
Speaker 1: it without me. That's the only time I had a
Speaker 1: song where the radio station was playing without me asking wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And when I made that ship in the studio again,
Speaker 1: I was just sucking around yeah, man, I was freestyling.
Speaker 1: Tiana Taylor was in the studio with me, and when
Speaker 1: I made it, she didn't, you know, at the end
Speaker 1: of the night. I made it at the end of
Speaker 1: the night. That's one of the first records that um
Speaker 1: the interns did. And you know, Rihanna did Cake after
Speaker 1: that because after her favorite they said that that Rihanna
Speaker 1: came to there was like, asked, my favorite song, Well,
Speaker 1: I need to make a song like that. So I
Speaker 1: love your name drops by the way, Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: So anyway, Yeah, Nikki had on that ship went crazy.
Speaker 1: She was dancing in the video. The ship was viral.
Speaker 1: NIGG has never seen no ship like that. She was
Speaker 1: bending over in the video. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It was It was a classic time and and I
Speaker 1: was it was a house music song, so the beat
Speaker 1: I made to make sure it was Detroit house music
Speaker 1: and so it had authenticity to it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it was simple. Yeah. Yeah, I produced
Speaker 1: it a little bit as well. But point is that
Speaker 1: motherfucker four or five times platinum cut, damn. And it's
Speaker 1: not too many people who you soorry I don't work.
Speaker 1: There's not too many people who have UM certification different
Speaker 1: things at the same time. So yeah, Puerto Ricans, you
Speaker 1: play handball right now? Yeah? Yeah, but yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that was some bullshit how he was saying, Okay, let's
Speaker 1: take a shot. They've been gonna get into that. To
Speaker 1: take one shot is just just because we want to
Speaker 1: make sure. Because okay, if you do, okay, you go
Speaker 1: wait from me, Okay, yeah, come on, we're gonna take
Speaker 1: it together, baby, because because I'm gonna be honest, I'm
Speaker 1: a fan, right, so let me let me let me
Speaker 1: take my little football, a little one of the whites,
Speaker 1: and then okay, I'll put you all right, Yo, I
Speaker 1: gotta ask you too before we get into this. No,
Speaker 1: I gotta ask it often do you do this show?
Speaker 1: I can't tell. I can't see this what we want camera? Okay,
Speaker 1: because yeah, we figured out let no, no, no way.
Speaker 1: But wait, I just want to say before we get
Speaker 1: into it. And because I'm saying this from a sincere place,
Speaker 1: we'll be losing a lot of people. So how do
Speaker 1: you balance this ship? Because you can't just be sitting
Speaker 1: here drinking all the time. No, you can take care
Speaker 1: of yourself here. We try to. It's definitely a balance. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's definitely a balance. Okay, follow me on Instagram, you'll
Speaker 1: figure it out. I don't even follow an Let's just
Speaker 1: be clear. Okay, we had who is considered a god,
Speaker 1: a googrule, a person that sat here and he said
Speaker 1: one of the worst things that he ever did was
Speaker 1: signed you. Now, I'm gonna be honest. After I looked
Speaker 1: at it, I analyzed it because if you look at
Speaker 1: my face, my facial structure, I'm thinking, he hits you wrong. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we didn't. We didn't catch so I'm actually I'm actually clapping.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, that's so dope. If you look at
Speaker 1: my facial spressing, you caught it. Last I was because
Speaker 1: it don't makes sense. So yeah, and before a question,
Speaker 1: I was blown away because I didn't understand it. But
Speaker 1: I need to understand you. But then he said for
Speaker 1: some political reasons, remember he said, but hold on, but
Speaker 1: let's just let's just let's just let's take it at
Speaker 1: the time when you first heard that, what did you think?
Speaker 1: What was the first reaction. At first, I thought it
Speaker 1: was hilarious. I thought the ship was funny. Then I
Speaker 1: take it personal. I take it personal because I'm the
Speaker 1: only artist who's put out five albums under good music.
Speaker 1: Cutty left a long time ago business wise us, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and they still clicked up and
Speaker 1: linked up. Right. So I'm the only artist who put
Speaker 1: out five albums under good music. I'm the only one
Speaker 1: who put out back to back to back number one
Speaker 1: platinum albums, double platinum albums, platinum album You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying and when, and by the way, being signed
Speaker 1: to Kaye is a golden opportunity. It's something that I
Speaker 1: would I he changed my life and I love him
Speaker 1: for that. But every time Kanye has called on me,
Speaker 1: every single time, no matter what I was doing, within
Speaker 1: one day's notice, I'm wherever he's at bro and it
Speaker 1: rather it's to contribute to him in the studio, whether
Speaker 1: it's to contribute a line, write a verse for him.
Speaker 1: He just takes maybe parts of the verse, maybe the
Speaker 1: whole verse, maybe just to help him with his vibe,
Speaker 1: like just to help him catch a vibe wherever he's
Speaker 1: at in the world. But I've traveled around the world
Speaker 1: for this man every time he's called, and have done
Speaker 1: this and not asked for publishing A lot of the times,
Speaker 1: why because he gave me a golden opportunity of signing
Speaker 1: the good music. A lot of people have signed to
Speaker 1: good music. I just want to keep that in mind,
Speaker 1: but not a lot of people. And nobody on good
Speaker 1: music has put out five LPs and back to back
Speaker 1: to back number ones. Right, So, for irony sake, for
Speaker 1: irony sake, when I won a v m A with
Speaker 1: Ya and John Legend for iro any sake, for one
Speaker 1: man could change the world. I was the first person
Speaker 1: to tweet Kanye for president, the first one. Right, I'm listening, Okay,
Speaker 1: So when when I heard what he was talking about,
Speaker 1: it didn't make sense, bro, because you know, my manager
Speaker 1: saw my record deal and said, this is a shitty
Speaker 1: record deal. I would never say that though, because why
Speaker 1: it was an opportunity. I can work my way out
Speaker 1: of anything. And when you say it managed me saying
Speaker 1: rock Nation, Yeah, I'm saying rock Nation. Yeah. He actually
Speaker 1: he hooked me up with Yeah, I'm saying rock Nation.
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Jay Brown said it was the worst deal
Speaker 1: he'd ever seen. Wo and this man, I had to
Speaker 1: spend my own money all the team my label because
Speaker 1: millions of dollars are missing and you can tell what
Speaker 1: millions of dollars are missing? Of course right, yes, I
Speaker 1: spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on my label, thinking
Speaker 1: Universal owe me this money, and the money had been
Speaker 1: paid to good music. So let me ask you before
Speaker 1: we finish. Let me ask you, bro, if somebody old
Speaker 1: you five hundred thousand dollars, how would you feel? No, listen,
Speaker 1: how would you feel I would feel and there was
Speaker 1: up a hundred million? How would you feel? Yeah? Crazy?
Speaker 1: Whatever they told you a million? What if they owed
Speaker 1: you three million? Okay? What if they told you five
Speaker 1: million dollars? What if they held you six and listen, listen,
Speaker 1: what if they owed you that bronstand? You showed up
Speaker 1: for them and you did all these things right, and
Speaker 1: they helped billions. And then the nigga who comes at them,
Speaker 1: who talks the most ship he'd be bigging up in
Speaker 1: the interview and ship it. When we talked about we
Speaker 1: got this drink champ talking about Drake okay, okay, who
Speaker 1: he you know loves and my thing is, bro, when
Speaker 1: you want to talk about Lord to a fault? When
Speaker 1: when you're talking about that song, right, not just that song,
Speaker 1: just the mentality like yeah, I've been loyal because I'm not.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm the only one who stayed that
Speaker 1: long for good music. So yeah, it was a personal
Speaker 1: It affected me personally, bro, And you know, he text
Speaker 1: me the next day, so I want to meet with
Speaker 1: you and your mom to begin healing on both sides.
Speaker 1: And I was angry. We took after what yeah, after
Speaker 1: that ship aired, after this service when y'all saw each other. No,
Speaker 1: he ain't say nothing there, Okay, after this is yes,
Speaker 1: okay continue, And you know I couldn't. I took it
Speaker 1: too personally because it's like you publicly humiliated me when
Speaker 1: I've been down for you not peep this out. While
Speaker 1: he was running for president, I didn't have his contact purposely,
Speaker 1: didn't endorse anybody publicly politically because my man's just running.
Speaker 1: I don't even have his contact at the time because
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out other business. We got other
Speaker 1: things to talk about. I don't even have his contact
Speaker 1: at the time, but I still had enough respect. Now
Speaker 1: he ain't. Ain't nobody ever showed me that support. Ain't
Speaker 1: nobody ever not considered me in that way. So I'm
Speaker 1: the number one earning artists on Good Music and I
Speaker 1: didn't come out of supporting no Democratic Party because my
Speaker 1: man's was running and he wasn't even on the ballots
Speaker 1: in thirty some states. Yeah, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So when he said all that, it just had no um.
Speaker 1: That's why it was funny because it just was not true.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't come out of the Sport Democratic Party, bro,
Speaker 1: Like maybe John Legend did. I don't know, I didn't.
Speaker 1: But to be fair, he said both of y'all day.
Speaker 1: But was it that or was it talking about when
Speaker 1: he met with Trump? Because I felt like, that's what
Speaker 1: a lot of And by the way, I was there
Speaker 1: today when he met with Trump on the plane with
Speaker 1: him get out of here. We flew to Uganda to Africa.
Speaker 1: I was there on the plane with him and Kim
Speaker 1: and his daughter and dad flying to Uganda. We're reading
Speaker 1: about how uh black people are the real Israelites and
Speaker 1: all this amazing history. I'm on the plan read with him,
Speaker 1: giving him nutrition, nutritional suggestions because my mom is a
Speaker 1: health guru, you know what I'm saying. So it was hurtful.
Speaker 1: It was hurtful brow and I believe, and it just
Speaker 1: don't make no sense that like like I said, I
Speaker 1: spent hundreds of thousand dollars too. And I don't even
Speaker 1: know if he's on his radar like that, because when
Speaker 1: I see him, I respect him enough not to be
Speaker 1: bringing that ship up to his face in the middle
Speaker 1: of a Sunday service. I ain't gonna be like, hey,
Speaker 1: what's up. You only six million? You don't mean millions
Speaker 1: of dollars? So how does this six million um accumulate?
Speaker 1: You go to you go to universe? So you say no,
Speaker 1: because I got an then this isn't me making up
Speaker 1: a number. I got an auditor who audited the books,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And it was more than that.
Speaker 1: Some of his has been paid. And to me, it's
Speaker 1: just like, I'm an authentic person. But I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: it real and I ain't gonna blast my brother. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to tear nobody now. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: tear it down. Man, change my life. But if you
Speaker 1: are bees and you owe me this money that ain't
Speaker 1: probably ain't nothing to him, that's life changing money for me.
Speaker 1: You know that that could go towards things I'm trying
Speaker 1: to do. Like you said, I'm building a movie theater.
Speaker 1: I'm doing all these things. I'm trying to help my community.
Speaker 1: I'm you know, doing a VC. I'm like invested in
Speaker 1: a lot of things. That Angel investor. Um, it's not
Speaker 1: like it's him, it's the business. Because that's that's what
Speaker 1: he said. What he said, and that's why. That's why.
Speaker 1: But at this point I tried to allude to that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen the interview, and I said, um,
Speaker 1: do you still have big Sean Son? And what he
Speaker 1: said was, I just signed them to a bigger slaveship.
Speaker 1: Did you see that part where he said that? No,
Speaker 1: I said, but do you still have? He said, I
Speaker 1: just signed I signed them to a bigger slave Meaning
Speaker 1: he's trying to say that your deal is basically with
Speaker 1: prevent THEE, it's basically with universal death. Jam right to
Speaker 1: his deals with death. His deal. I hadn't work. I
Speaker 1: hadn't work my way out of my deal. Just now,
Speaker 1: I had to work my way out of that deal.
Speaker 1: My man, like I said, I'm not shopping on the deal,
Speaker 1: but it was a golden opportunity. My manager said it
Speaker 1: was the worst deal he's ever seen. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: is I put at least thirty million dollars in this
Speaker 1: man pocket or more, and he owes me money and
Speaker 1: he's up billions him or his company. He said that
Speaker 1: the masters, he said he was gonna give his artists
Speaker 1: back his masters. And it's just like that hasn't happened yet,
Speaker 1: But that would benefit me a lot. And if I
Speaker 1: was at bees and if I was a man of
Speaker 1: my word and not just saying something to look good
Speaker 1: in that moment, like I would pay my artists day
Speaker 1: masters or what at least what they're work. If he's
Speaker 1: not in a position to do that. But that's just me.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you something. When you look at
Speaker 1: your contract and your lawyers speak to you, do they
Speaker 1: say that it's it's it's it's good music, or they
Speaker 1: say that it's good music. Def jam VINDI you know
Speaker 1: all of it as a conglomerate Universal. Oh they're saying
Speaker 1: it's yeah, that's on you to answer it, which answer it,
Speaker 1: whichever way you want. Now it's all of them. But right,
Speaker 1: But the one thing he said is that they paid.
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk who it is. Bro Universal
Speaker 1: paid the money that I'm old to good music. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm trying. I don't give a funk what
Speaker 1: it is the out of a deal that I signed
Speaker 1: that was an unfair deal to me as an artist,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying to According to others, I
Speaker 1: earned millions of dollars because I sold over fifty some
Speaker 1: million records. I was one of the top selling hip
Speaker 1: hop artists between two thousand and ten and two thousand twenty,
Speaker 1: I was in the top ten, sold over fifty some
Speaker 1: million records and earn a certain the amount of money.
Speaker 1: But I worked my ass off, Bro. I fucking drove
Speaker 1: myself to depression. I drove myself. I drove my self
Speaker 1: to to the brink of wanting to not live, bro,
Speaker 1: because of the work overworking myself. So what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is in that time where I earn the money, I
Speaker 1: still haven't gotten this money, bro. And it's not all
Speaker 1: about the money. It's not all about the money. It's
Speaker 1: the principle. It's the principle because I haven't gone in
Speaker 1: I haven't done a seven M on brittle Path, I
Speaker 1: haven't done on I haven't put it in nothing. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it's just like I had
Speaker 1: an issue with all the respect that was being paid
Speaker 1: to somebody who publicly did that. And I know that
Speaker 1: people would be like going through things making up and
Speaker 1: all that. That's beautiful. I want to see my brothers together,
Speaker 1: But to me, yeah, I haven't. I take that personal.
Speaker 1: But what made you even think to order like you
Speaker 1: was thinking money was missing? Like I mean this it's
Speaker 1: a normal thing. That's a normal thing. So it's definitely
Speaker 1: a normal thing. But I just want to say that
Speaker 1: what triggers that your own money has to be something
Speaker 1: that triggered every artist who has ever gone platinum or
Speaker 1: had any type of success, and something that pays out
Speaker 1: residuals or royalties to audit, because there's probably money there.
Speaker 1: Every time I've audited every aspect of my career, I've
Speaker 1: always correct, But it had to be something. J Brown.
Speaker 1: Jay Brown just came to you and said, you'll listen,
Speaker 1: She said, when the last time you audited the label?
Speaker 1: I said, I never have. He was like, audit them,
Speaker 1: auditing them all this royalty on that royalty and then
Speaker 1: all sorts of things, and then it was like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, it's some ms missing. Wow, and the ms
Speaker 1: have been paid, so you know, like I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: also learned to I can't be angry. I'm not angry
Speaker 1: because that's too much of a burden for me to
Speaker 1: carry it always. You know what I'm saying. I don't
Speaker 1: take it personal. That's what it was nervous about. But
Speaker 1: whatever they said Big Sean, I said, oh shoo, I
Speaker 1: don't want Big. It's just like it's like just you know, no,
Speaker 1: I love Kane bro I love him for the opportunity
Speaker 1: he gave me and all these things. But I thought
Speaker 1: what he said with some bitch ass ship, and I
Speaker 1: thought that and I thought that, um, that wasn't golly,
Speaker 1: you know, that wasn't It was just like it was
Speaker 1: a personal attack for no reason. You know. I feel
Speaker 1: like he didn't have to do all that, and the
Speaker 1: fact that why he said it was completely wrong. I
Speaker 1: didn't come out and endorse no political party. I didn't
Speaker 1: for because my man's was voting literally, you know. And
Speaker 1: and I know it's a deeper reason why it goes
Speaker 1: back to all of that. I don't even know. That
Speaker 1: might be something I can talk about another time, but
Speaker 1: it all goes back to the song blessings. Everything goes
Speaker 1: back to like something to do with Drake. I mean
Speaker 1: not to be funny, but it's just like the obsession.
Speaker 1: So let's just be clear. Did you think that he
Speaker 1: didn't want you to have Drake on that record or
Speaker 1: did he want to be on that It was me
Speaker 1: and Drake. It was me and Drake. My album was
Speaker 1: due immediately do that day. I played him. I had
Speaker 1: been playing in the music played on the final album.
Speaker 1: He said he heard Blessings and said, I have to
Speaker 1: be on here. And I was like, bro, I already
Speaker 1: got you on two songs on my album. He hopped
Speaker 1: on two other songs already on Dark scott Paradise. He
Speaker 1: was on One Man Could Change the World. He was
Speaker 1: on All Your Fall, so that would have been three
Speaker 1: songs he's on the album. He's I need to be
Speaker 1: on this record. I was like, bro, my, my my
Speaker 1: preorder goes up tomorrow. He's like, we're about to do
Speaker 1: it right now. And I helped him write his verse
Speaker 1: for the song for Blessings. For Blessings okay, so I
Speaker 1: hit up Drake. Drake was the one who came up
Speaker 1: with the idea of the song. Drake had a concept
Speaker 1: like you know, a little scratch of the hook. We
Speaker 1: got in the studio and finished it together. So when
Speaker 1: I when I talked to Drake about it, Drake didn't
Speaker 1: want that. I wouldn't say he didn't want him on it.
Speaker 1: I said, the song is already done, you know. He
Speaker 1: was just kind of on some like it don't really
Speaker 1: need it, don't really need all that. It's already long.
Speaker 1: It was three verses already, and he was like, I mean,
Speaker 1: we don't really need him on it. But what I
Speaker 1: said was and by the way, I helped Kanye write
Speaker 1: his verse. I said, Bro, Bro, gotta be on it. Bro,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Like he said he
Speaker 1: had to be on it. He gotta be on it.
Speaker 1: So and I feel like that kind of I don't
Speaker 1: know if that had any effect on me and Drake relationship,
Speaker 1: but like I said, Drake wasn't like, don't put him
Speaker 1: on his ship. But I got the vibes, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So anyway, I write the verse for you.
Speaker 1: I tell everybody in the studio send it to Mastering,
Speaker 1: his engineer. Another person was in the room. Another person
Speaker 1: was the CEO of Good Send it to that. I'm like,
Speaker 1: my ship comes out tomorrow, okay, okay for shure. Next
Speaker 1: day I hit a Mastering. I'm not an A and
Speaker 1: R by the way, and I'm calling Mastering. You get
Speaker 1: the verse? No, we didn't get any verse. My A
Speaker 1: and R like, oh, your pre order is up and
Speaker 1: it's going crazy. You didn't get you get you. I
Speaker 1: didn't get your verse to Mastering or going crazy easy
Speaker 1: on the phone, bro, preorder going crazy that the doctor
Speaker 1: we're gonna do the radio and the video version for Blessings?
Speaker 1: Is that cool? Yeah, it's cool. It's cool because he
Speaker 1: didn't get into mastering. Right, I can see what this started.
Speaker 1: The froum. Okay, cool. Everything happens with videos songs is
Speaker 1: you know? Crazy? Next thing I know, we're shooting a
Speaker 1: video and he's he's spassing on me. You you did
Speaker 1: this because of you didn't do this because of like
Speaker 1: like I'm loyal to Drake over him or something. I'm like, Bro,
Speaker 1: you know I helped you write your verse. I was
Speaker 1: in the studio with you. But I had this conversation
Speaker 1: with him a few times. And the reason that I
Speaker 1: know it, I know it'sist with him because when other
Speaker 1: things that would happen. You know, I need your support
Speaker 1: on this heat. You know, it's it always would come
Speaker 1: back to this. Other people will know this story without
Speaker 1: me saying anything. How the funk you know about like what?
Speaker 1: I had to pull him aside a few times and
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, you know, you know what happened right
Speaker 1: with that song on like I helped you write your verse.
Speaker 1: So that's just that's one aspect could be more. And
Speaker 1: like I said, I ain't gonna hear gossip and telling
Speaker 1: what it is that what I'm saying is this ship
Speaker 1: got to do This ship got to do it. This
Speaker 1: is ship that I've been holding around and carrying around
Speaker 1: as a you know, as a soldier as you know,
Speaker 1: you know, some ship. But it's been bothering me, Bro,
Speaker 1: it's been bothering me. And I'm like, I'm tired of
Speaker 1: like not being able to speak out because of other
Speaker 1: people and ship when people don't got that same regard
Speaker 1: for me, like I ain't like I ain't motherfucking put
Speaker 1: the work in, or like I ain't showed up for
Speaker 1: people are carried a label on my back. So but
Speaker 1: how it was, I don't know if you heard the
Speaker 1: Breakfash Club after the the interview dropped, the Brethash Club
Speaker 1: had did a survey, right, and they was like, um, well,
Speaker 1: who do you guys agree with? Do you agree with Kanye? Oh?
Speaker 1: Do you agree with Big Sean? Did you hear it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did. I did you heard that? Right? Yeah? Because
Speaker 1: he used my my daughter is Charlotte Manavy. Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1: So they did a survey and a lot of people.
Speaker 1: I didn't see the actual thing because bro, I heard
Speaker 1: about it. Somebody hit me like, yo, they were showing love.
Speaker 1: You see how people supporting, but they were it was
Speaker 1: it was I would say, it was like pretty even, right.
Speaker 1: So what happened was they were saying, so how you
Speaker 1: described it on our show was that you just went
Speaker 1: and supported I guess Hillary Clinton or the Democrats or whatever.
Speaker 1: And I didn't and I didn't. Here's how he described it.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, and I didn't and I did not.
Speaker 1: In fact, I supported him and while he was running
Speaker 1: for president, I didn't have his fucking number. And I'm
Speaker 1: reaching I'm trying to reach out to him. So what
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do support somebody that I can't even
Speaker 1: get in contact with at the time, which I still did. So, uh,
Speaker 1: I don't care if people agree with me. If you
Speaker 1: think that, like I'm wrong in any way in this situation.
Speaker 1: You are you must I feel you. You love this man,
Speaker 1: I love this man whatever it is. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But that's fucking that's some fucking boyshit though, right,
Speaker 1: so listen because it's not true. Okay, so um, but
Speaker 1: let's just let's take it from how he I thought
Speaker 1: this was okay in his mind, he's running for president.
Speaker 1: He puts on the magna hat, right, what you don't
Speaker 1: agree he's not running for president putting the magat Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not what happens. I mean, this is pretty much
Speaker 1: all right, fucking taket back out of here. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Those two things are different. In my opinion.
Speaker 1: He wasn't well, he wasn't running when he wasn't he
Speaker 1: running for president at the same time or No, it's
Speaker 1: kind of hard for me to recall those timelines after
Speaker 1: these eight shots. But I just get another one that's
Speaker 1: but you know what, but no, no, because um, but
Speaker 1: he's going to back. I hold of that. You're wait
Speaker 1: till you come back. No, I don't know. I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm great because this is what I'm trying. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to understand him, right, And I'm trying to understand you
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to understand your relationship right because I'm
Speaker 1: outside looking it. Let's just be clear, I'm not fan
Speaker 1: of both. For y'all, I had no idea like there
Speaker 1: was even a discrepancy, like like, if you really look
Speaker 1: at the footage, I'm clapping, I'm like first because it's
Speaker 1: because because it hit your ear on because it didn't
Speaker 1: make any sense. It doesn't, it didn't. But but a
Speaker 1: lot of but a lot of things. Bro. He animated,
Speaker 1: and he has a great delivery, right. He has tossed
Speaker 1: with such passion and he got he liked that inner child.
Speaker 1: He's like just straight and he's gonna say whatever you're
Speaker 1: gonna hop on stage. He you know that's why we
Speaker 1: love him, Bro, he raw like that right, Yes, But
Speaker 1: I don't care who it is when you when when
Speaker 1: you say something untrue about anybody, say something that untrue
Speaker 1: about me, I gotta come up here and say as
Speaker 1: a man, like no, that ain't high going down. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know, he gave me an
Speaker 1: opportunity on that, and I never will discount that. I
Speaker 1: give him that regard. You know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: the same respect how he was paying hoving here. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'm saying him. But so let's
Speaker 1: just let me just be clear. Uh. But that's besides
Speaker 1: the point though. But what he's trying to describe was
Speaker 1: at a point he felt like you were disloyal right now,
Speaker 1: regardless if you agree with his political campaigns or not.
Speaker 1: You know, and it was up some part. Bro It's
Speaker 1: just like he text me and being like yo, this, yo,
Speaker 1: this lying on this song that was my model for
Speaker 1: a whole year. He didn't get up here nothing he
Speaker 1: said as as as trying to make me look crazy,
Speaker 1: like that's all the type of music I make, And
Speaker 1: that's not true. And the track record speaks for it,
Speaker 1: not anything, not people's opinions, even whether that's the song
Speaker 1: that maybe somebody only heard, But my track record speaks
Speaker 1: for itself. As far as millions of records sold and
Speaker 1: as far as impact Brock come, people come up to me.
Speaker 1: They don't come up to me and say as that.
Speaker 1: People be like one man could change the world, change
Speaker 1: my life. You're going crazy on paradise. Can I wrap
Speaker 1: paradise with you? Really? Most people say, boy boy, I
Speaker 1: do it. I do it. That's what they'd be saying
Speaker 1: to me. You know what I'm saying. Ain't nobody ever
Speaker 1: came up to me and said as so. It was.
Speaker 1: It was a personal attack for no reason to you know,
Speaker 1: it was funny, though it was funny. It was funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was funny. But I think it's whatever. But it
Speaker 1: was funny to everybody else. But yeah, it's not funny,
Speaker 1: and it's not I shouldn't be. So let me just
Speaker 1: think that it's not funny to be because my whole
Speaker 1: city looking at me crazy. But when I go to
Speaker 1: the trait, they're looking at me crazy that I let
Speaker 1: this man sit up here and talk talk to me
Speaker 1: like that. I was talking about me like that, and
Speaker 1: I'm not. I can't. I can't sit up here and
Speaker 1: act like that. Funny. It's not funny because he made
Speaker 1: money off of that song. He made money off of
Speaker 1: that song. He made more money off that song than
Speaker 1: I did. Because that's the type of deal I have.
Speaker 1: So what do you guys think about that? In my
Speaker 1: disloil in anyway? No, I mean, you know, I'm outside
Speaker 1: of it. And by the way, let me say this
Speaker 1: a lot of people would hit me. I don't know.
Speaker 1: This is it. This is the last we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 1: Brob bro, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: want you to work it out me as an outside
Speaker 1: of looking at But I don't know you apply, I
Speaker 1: don't know you know where you're going through. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you've been through. So lets you talk um funk.
Speaker 1: I forgot what I was about to say. Now, I
Speaker 1: forgot what the fun was about together. Shot you ended
Speaker 1: it with that he made more money off the song.
Speaker 1: That's what she did. Yeah, yeah, all right, So what
Speaker 1: do y'all think as as like, do y'all think that's
Speaker 1: wrong in anyway? Do y'all think it's wrong that that
Speaker 1: man is up bees and he owes me or his
Speaker 1: company allegedly owes me ms or no? And I'm not
Speaker 1: not something that because I'm a nice guy that I
Speaker 1: actually based on what you're saying, if you go off
Speaker 1: of what you're saying, of course, all right, well let's
Speaker 1: not talk about it no more. No, But what what
Speaker 1: what the important part was when he said the Vivindi
Speaker 1: part as if yeah, that's that's the thing. That is
Speaker 1: what he said they paid him. What you know, The
Speaker 1: point is that was my issue first. I went to
Speaker 1: them first because I like, I know, good music not
Speaker 1: gonna play me like that. My brothers then my brothers.
Speaker 1: I didn't came through for them, but by the way,
Speaker 1: music for the whole everyone and then came through. Dad
Speaker 1: came through for me. But he also said, I'm just
Speaker 1: being there with advocate. He also said that he didn't
Speaker 1: he doesn't own that. The only thing that he owns
Speaker 1: was um good music, yeah, he said to hen. He said,
Speaker 1: only he fully owns was Jesus the Sleeker company. He
Speaker 1: said that, yeah, he probably don't own it fully. But
Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm trying to say. Like, how how
Speaker 1: connected is he to the actual company? Well he can't.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying, some people, how is he
Speaker 1: micromanaging that company? Is he macro managing that company? Does
Speaker 1: he know it's the same relation of drink Champs the
Speaker 1: show being our Revolt TV. They distribute your show, but
Speaker 1: you're the owner of the show. See what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be the same. But he's
Speaker 1: trying to say, I don't know, I know it. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's the exact percentage, but I'm
Speaker 1: saying instead same relation. And you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: even the way, I just think that's a different kind
Speaker 1: of situation. You're not hearing me, man, You're not hearing.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is the money came to good music
Speaker 1: that I was old, my little crumbs and scraps that
Speaker 1: I made in a deal that my man's, my manager
Speaker 1: said was the worst deal he ever seen. It's a
Speaker 1: great opportunity for me, right obviously, because I worked my
Speaker 1: I can work my way out of anything. But I'm
Speaker 1: from Detroit, period, so I can work my way out
Speaker 1: of anything. So what I'm saying is I worked my
Speaker 1: way out of the deal when most when nobody else
Speaker 1: that's ever been signing good music, has work their way
Speaker 1: out of this type of deal that I'm in. Five albums,
Speaker 1: back to back to back number one albums, over fifty
Speaker 1: some million records sold, all these things, Platinum songs, all
Speaker 1: these things. Right, the money, the money that I accumulated
Speaker 1: during that deal from Royal Teas have been paid. I've
Speaker 1: spent hundreds of thousands of my money to get a
Speaker 1: analytical report, not an opinion not like well he awe
Speaker 1: you know, he owe you know, he owe you. This
Speaker 1: is forenstic scientists. This is a world. That's what that's
Speaker 1: what order it is. That's why. Yeah, see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's not about like Vivindi. Okay, so now let
Speaker 1: me ask you talk about the real like this music
Speaker 1: music musical world. Okay. Well, if it's not him and
Speaker 1: somebody at Good Music, somebody from Good Music Records owes
Speaker 1: mean millions. It may not be Kanye. I don't know really,
Speaker 1: but who else owns it? I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: feel like a true question. Actually, but actually I'm not
Speaker 1: even gonna say that because everything I said can be used.
Speaker 1: It gets me in the court of loss. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and say that I'm owed six million
Speaker 1: dollars and from Kanye West is label Good Music, and
Speaker 1: that's just what it is. I don't talk about this
Speaker 1: ship no more. Man, I can get cool and then
Speaker 1: we can get get over this. Okay, But let me
Speaker 1: ask you face to face, man, and man, have you
Speaker 1: ever just sat down with him and just said your
Speaker 1: look let me how let you pull you to the side,
Speaker 1: no media, no nothing, Yo, Yeah I did differensic sites.
Speaker 1: Just they came this, this and this, This is what happened.
Speaker 1: This is what I feel like. I'm old. You know, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why I haven't because I got so
Speaker 1: much respect for bro that when we in a vibe,
Speaker 1: whenever we link, they don't be their appropriate time. And
Speaker 1: I'm from a city, I'm from a place where I
Speaker 1: know the appropriate time to address things like that. You know,
Speaker 1: I know a time. There's a time and place for business,
Speaker 1: There's a time and place to be creative. There's a
Speaker 1: time and place right And I had that much respect
Speaker 1: to not bringing up in certain situations and let the
Speaker 1: business people deal with that. Ship. You're absolutely right, You're
Speaker 1: absolutely correct. But if I have a business relationship with
Speaker 1: one of my homies and I see him a couple
Speaker 1: of times and he doesn't address me, and did I
Speaker 1: see him address me in public, It's almost like, why
Speaker 1: the fund didn't you just pulled me to that? That's
Speaker 1: how I felt. Yeah, So I'm saying why didn't you
Speaker 1: once you knew you was old. I'm not saying you're
Speaker 1: wrong or not like that. I'm just asking as as
Speaker 1: as as approach, And that's outside of looking in it once.
Speaker 1: You didn't know that. Why you ain't just say you
Speaker 1: know your home and let me talk to you. Because
Speaker 1: by the time I find out, the only time I
Speaker 1: saw him was at Sunday Service recently. Yeah, wow, before
Speaker 1: the interview came out. Before the interview came out, And
Speaker 1: I wasn't about to holler him at Sunday Service. I
Speaker 1: wasn't about to do that. But you did say on
Speaker 1: Breathast Club that you felt like he was he was old.
Speaker 1: Since I didn't say that, Okay, well, somebody else looked
Speaker 1: information and I didn't even to know it. I didn't.
Speaker 1: That's what may actually made me look into this situation more. Charlotte.
Speaker 1: Man must be cool with somebody at Universal who told him, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, it was a wrong number. But what
Speaker 1: did he said? I don't know, but it was the
Speaker 1: wrong number because it was way more than that. So
Speaker 1: that wasn't me that. I think that was another thing,
Speaker 1: and I think I was I was talking at And
Speaker 1: you can see how sometimes that person who could think
Speaker 1: that because they're thinking, like yo, using the studio with
Speaker 1: Jay your man leaked the picture, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then that communication, yeah you said communication, say the nation.
Speaker 1: Did you say that communication is the bridge to salvation,
Speaker 1: that God is holding our hand to walk across on.
Speaker 1: You can't see how maybe they thought that, like like
Speaker 1: al right, cool, absolutely, okay, absolutely, And that's why I
Speaker 1: don't take care of you. And that's why I don't
Speaker 1: take a personal Honestly, that's first. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: take a personal. I can't because that's too much of
Speaker 1: a burden for me to carry, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's why I and leaving it all the business, you know,
Speaker 1: and me talking about it is relieving. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, it's, uh, it's it's embarrassing too. But you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It's embarrassing because I really, well,
Speaker 1: I really like I was proud of it. I was
Speaker 1: really proud to be on good music, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was really proud to be signing a
Speaker 1: you know, that was my idol, that was one of
Speaker 1: my heroes, you know what I'm saying, my favorite artists.
Speaker 1: So it's, uh, it's it's hurtful, bro, it's hurtful to
Speaker 1: hear those words. I expect, I expect, I expect you're
Speaker 1: breaking that down. I really do, and I'm not a
Speaker 1: perfect person. Like you said, maybe I should have brought
Speaker 1: it up to him, but I just also listen to
Speaker 1: my heart and my intuition and it didn't feel like
Speaker 1: the right time. So that's just where I'm leaving it. That. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's real, yo, bro. I definitely expected you to
Speaker 1: take the other route around, because you know, we're all
Speaker 1: we're all pall. I'm never I would never tear another
Speaker 1: black man down in America. That's some whole ass ship.
Speaker 1: I would never tear another man down, especially somebody who
Speaker 1: changed my life. But I am gonna stand up for
Speaker 1: myself and called my brother, called my rather, it's my
Speaker 1: mom o, call my call my dad out, my uncle out.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call anybody who means everything to me, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that's some fucking bullshit. So you think
Speaker 1: so you think I'm not trying to reiterate it. It
Speaker 1: was the moment that you didn't put them on blessings
Speaker 1: that like things just just deteriorated or yep. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that was the start of it. There was,
Speaker 1: there was a couple of other things, but that's just
Speaker 1: I feel like that's where it started. You know, but
Speaker 1: I ain't. Like I said, this ain't nonna tell all books, man,
Speaker 1: because I mean, but I mean, it's an interview. It's
Speaker 1: an interview where I want to share with my fans
Speaker 1: and ship though, because are people who got loved for
Speaker 1: me or people even who don't got love for me?
Speaker 1: Because my narrative is being twisted around because somebody said,
Speaker 1: because somebody said that I came out of support of
Speaker 1: Democrats and did whatever whatever, and somebody said this to
Speaker 1: ask whatever it was, Bro, that ain't who That ain't
Speaker 1: who I am. I'm coming here personally after I had
Speaker 1: the two stressful last week's just now, after I was
Speaker 1: holding my family, I got bags under my eyes. So
Speaker 1: you're good. I'm sitting up here getting drunk and ship.
Speaker 1: You're good at shot. It's important. It's important to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I respect. I respect your honestly. I look at you
Speaker 1: your face, I expect your honesty. But you're all brothers.
Speaker 1: We are brothers. So what is your solution to rectify this?
Speaker 1: You're being noble, Get some fish, um with some sushi,
Speaker 1: with some with some chopsticks. I just man, just respect.
Speaker 1: Where is the respect that? Where is the respect that
Speaker 1: that's what I'm trying to figure out. Okay, you want
Speaker 1: you want me to meet with somebody who I feel
Speaker 1: you and I'm that type of guy. I am right,
Speaker 1: but the disrespect, But do you want to apologize to
Speaker 1: I think you said you and your mom. Didn't you
Speaker 1: invite you guys to apologize? H he said to begin
Speaker 1: healing on both sides, And I just like I was
Speaker 1: angry because it's not equal to me healing like I
Speaker 1: feel him. But you know that may have been me
Speaker 1: caught up in my ego, caught up in my uh
Speaker 1: not my highest self. You know what I'm saying at
Speaker 1: that at the time because it was such a shock
Speaker 1: to hear those words come out from uh A mentors
Speaker 1: somebody who you know you. I don't think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest again, I'm outside looking at I think he's
Speaker 1: just saying that just to be to the funk with you, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think he meant that at all. I think
Speaker 1: it was it was it was a moment we got
Speaker 1: him just as drunk as you, well you're a little
Speaker 1: less as you're not drinking taking a shot. I got that.
Speaker 1: Let me fill up. But I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: I think. I mean, I agree, I mean he took
Speaker 1: me under it. Like regardless if we don't agree and
Speaker 1: we have ship, I'm supposed to be his little brother
Speaker 1: to me. And if he and if he's supposed to
Speaker 1: be my o G. You know, I need support to
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I did support him. I publicly supported him. I tweeted
Speaker 1: Kanye for president. The things he was saying had no facts.
Speaker 1: So that's what it was. Like that, and you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like a lot of the
Speaker 1: things he was saying, but that just that hit everybody's
Speaker 1: ear wrong. You were like yeah, I mean continued you
Speaker 1: were like yeah, because I mean, nobody understood. Nobody understood it.
Speaker 1: But like I said, bro, I didn't come up here
Speaker 1: to give a response to Kanye West. I knew that
Speaker 1: that was gonna come up. But I came appear to
Speaker 1: have an interview with you because you had a problem
Speaker 1: with me too. Yeah, you know you're ready a right,
Speaker 1: right now, you're ready. Let me just tell you that.
Speaker 1: So you had an issue. I love, I love let
Speaker 1: me tell you so I was so I'm still a
Speaker 1: fan of you. I just went and I brought a
Speaker 1: record to you. I'm gonna show you because you brought
Speaker 1: it to me. You gave me a CD. Yep, New Jersey.
Speaker 1: I don't know it is in New Jersey. Mike Brinkley.
Speaker 1: Remember Mike Brinkley. Remember Mike Brinkley. See yeah we did
Speaker 1: now yeah Mike brinks Yeah. So so I wrung Mike
Speaker 1: Brinkley a CD and I gave it to us. You'll listen.
Speaker 1: And all I wanted from you, I was just like
Speaker 1: wanted you to tell me yo, listen, man, I don't
Speaker 1: like the record or whatever whatever. I just found no communication.
Speaker 1: I gave you my number. Yeah, and he was. He
Speaker 1: was on the show with Chris Sean Shan Chris Sean,
Speaker 1: Chris Okay, okay, so this is yeah yeah yeah that
Speaker 1: far back, I thought I believe him because he's shop.
Speaker 1: Do you remember when you remember what year you started
Speaker 1: Dream Champs? You remember what? Ye? Yeah, so this is
Speaker 1: the reason why when you see me before that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's that. That was it pretty much. I feel
Speaker 1: like you're fronting on me like like everyone I ever
Speaker 1: did remember when you was Okay, it was likelve right
Speaker 1: Sean Chris sounds about it was something. Yeah. So I
Speaker 1: gave you a CD. I thought it was great. I
Speaker 1: just never heard you. So that was the thing. Is
Speaker 1: was like, I don't mind, like I'm a fucking artist.
Speaker 1: Like you call me and say I don't like the record,
Speaker 1: the hocus trash. You can tell me, so so let
Speaker 1: me tell you, let me finish it, let me pass you.
Speaker 1: Because you broke it up. I didn't bring it up right,
Speaker 1: so I was gonna could. I could have did everything
Speaker 1: that communication communication. So I'm hitting Mike Brinkley. Now this
Speaker 1: is the reason why I forgive you, because one let
Speaker 1: me just tell you something. You hit Mike Brinkley. I
Speaker 1: hate Mike Brinkley. And Mike Brunley said, yeah, I might
Speaker 1: have dropped the balls the first time I said it publicly.
Speaker 1: Mike Brinkley hite me. Was like, so I forgive you,
Speaker 1: but this is forgive me that. Yeah, I did. You
Speaker 1: gotta watch other episodes. You want to watch a couple? Okay,
Speaker 1: only man nas nas Eskeootball ever called me for and
Speaker 1: I said something on the dream camps and nas Esketball
Speaker 1: called me. I said, listen, big Sean is a good one.
Speaker 1: He said that yes, And I said that out my
Speaker 1: brother Nas man clapping that to tell you something, when
Speaker 1: he called me for two people, and this twenty four
Speaker 1: year career that I'm talking about were from the foul side,
Speaker 1: and we know the foul sniggers in the universe. He
Speaker 1: called me for one other dude, he said, forgive him.
Speaker 1: But when it came to big to you, he told me,
Speaker 1: I misunderstood you because I don't got no ego like
Speaker 1: that bro, like I don't got no let prospect. I felt.
Speaker 1: I felt like, damn, you had the light at the
Speaker 1: time you was. I came to your show. It was
Speaker 1: in New Jerky that came to your show, and I
Speaker 1: felt like I humble myself because I I'm humble myself
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, yo, you know, I would like
Speaker 1: you to do a record with me. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, I'm funk with you, and I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it. He was coming off the show. He
Speaker 1: was coming on the stage this and I came up
Speaker 1: the stage many time with the tower on. I know
Speaker 1: what that feels like, I don't know here I'm gonna hear,
Speaker 1: but you waiting like yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And I said, damn,
Speaker 1: when I felt no communication coming from you, that's when
Speaker 1: I was like, damn this this new generation is different.
Speaker 1: So that's the reason why it was that energy. But again, okay,
Speaker 1: it was let me o um coming off stage. I
Speaker 1: don't know what was on my mind. It was hot.
Speaker 1: He was lit. No not not that, I'm not no, no,
Speaker 1: no listening too. I remember we went to Philly after
Speaker 1: that and my grandma was dying. She went to hospice.
Speaker 1: This is the next show. I remember in Philly, I
Speaker 1: was a cosmic cab and everybody shot out the field.
Speaker 1: H and maybe it was one show in between a
Speaker 1: few days in between how I went home and miraculously,
Speaker 1: my grandma was on hospice and my whole family came together.
Speaker 1: She was about to die, and they took her off
Speaker 1: the machines and all of a sudden she started coming
Speaker 1: back alive. We were there for days. So my point is,
Speaker 1: I respect you, but I really do. Yeah, that's why
Speaker 1: I want to do it soon. But you never know
Speaker 1: what somebody's going through. Bro, You never know somebody, and
Speaker 1: you gotta treat people like they're going through something. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying everybody, I learned that in my days I
Speaker 1: was going through something. I know. That's why I came
Speaker 1: to you, and I'm not trying to make it feel bad.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just keeping it real. You know. I
Speaker 1: respect that people go through, you know, like losing losing
Speaker 1: a relative. She didn't even she ended up living a
Speaker 1: few more years though, because I actually made a record.
Speaker 1: I said, the only dude to actually get on the song,
Speaker 1: and then he never did. It was with Sean that
Speaker 1: I said that, you guys, I should have gone, I've
Speaker 1: been in this game twenty one. You know we're still alive.
Speaker 1: Let's do the record. I knew we're gonna get it done.
Speaker 1: I know we're gonna get done. I was you know
Speaker 1: how you took it Verston over Kanye and me and
Speaker 1: you have two different plates. But I had to get
Speaker 1: personally because I was like, damn, like when we met
Speaker 1: each other, we shaped hand because you said the first
Speaker 1: time you met was in town. That's not the first
Speaker 1: time you met men in Jersey. I remember you was
Speaker 1: on your high, you was, you was platinum. Trust me,
Speaker 1: I've been plating them, so I love it. Yes, I
Speaker 1: was like I'm sitting there, but this the thing is,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be me. Eventually, You're gonna be me and
Speaker 1: you're gonna it's not gonna be forty two dog from
Speaker 1: your city. It's gonna be excuse me for a two dog.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be Aloha from from Philly. And you're gonna
Speaker 1: you donna want to hide at him and when he
Speaker 1: don't get back. The thing about it, see, let me
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Let men say something, let
Speaker 1: me let me go here. Bro, okay, hawks, I'm in,
Speaker 1: I'm you know. Let me just say something. Because when
Speaker 1: you were older statesman, in this game, you be one.
Speaker 1: It's just like you jong hold whatever you did, regardless
Speaker 1: of what I was going through it all, You're right,
Speaker 1: You're not you. But I'm staying. In general, I always
Speaker 1: look at your homies up and get what's up? Bro?
Speaker 1: You know a dude, And then we're looking at me
Speaker 1: and I'm like, everything you did, you did? I actually
Speaker 1: did you know? A wife is right there, but he
Speaker 1: was figure popping early, Yes, he was outside. I did everything.
Speaker 1: So sometimes and the thing about it is, this is
Speaker 1: the this is the worst thing ever. Right. It's when
Speaker 1: you you floating and you're winning in life, but you
Speaker 1: want to come down and you want to highlight somebody
Speaker 1: and they look at not you. I'm not saying you particularly,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying because um, I can't say who who?
Speaker 1: Who asked me the other day, but they asked me.
Speaker 1: They said, can't you speak to Travis? Man? You gotta say, Man,
Speaker 1: all this fucking ship I've been it is well, because
Speaker 1: this it's really should they say, speak to Travis? And
Speaker 1: I said, speak the Travis and I was. I was
Speaker 1: scared to reach out to Travis because I didn't know
Speaker 1: if if Travis would respond or even respect who I am.
Speaker 1: I don't even know. But then I had to think
Speaker 1: about it. The last time I've seen Travis, you know,
Speaker 1: the last time I seeing Travis and Pop party and
Speaker 1: he looked at me and he at the house and
Speaker 1: he hit me with his braids, dreaming like that. I said,
Speaker 1: this ship just hit me bomb oh ship? He said,
Speaker 1: can I be on drink chats? I said, holy ship, traps? Okay,
Speaker 1: my fault the same way, like how you I love
Speaker 1: what you just did. I love that because I was.
Speaker 1: I was about to say I was, but I really was.
Speaker 1: I really was with you. And then it turned me
Speaker 1: off because I said, damn, this young generation sometimes I
Speaker 1: don't understand I am honestly bro, I feel it and
Speaker 1: regardless of whatever I had going on, it's like ship,
Speaker 1: I can honestly set up here and say I'm a
Speaker 1: whole different person and I'm just saying I respect that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You gotta take a shot
Speaker 1: for that and and let me and I also want
Speaker 1: to say something and I don't know. We don't want
Speaker 1: to keep talking about this, but I want you, yeah,
Speaker 1: you to work this out, because this is what this
Speaker 1: show was about. This show was about promoting Black Latino togetherness.
Speaker 1: None of us really knew what he was getting into. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, I wanted to go
Speaker 1: to Jamaica Queen's I never knew I could drive with
Speaker 1: Jamaica Jamaica, Like this is really that was my goal
Speaker 1: of wrapping. I don't know where your goal you might
Speaker 1: because you g p A is very different, but my
Speaker 1: my g p A was very small, like forty projects,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: if I'm the man in forty projects, I'm ill. I'm
Speaker 1: the man in Left Rock already, let me be the
Speaker 1: man in Queen's Bridge. But when I became a Canada world,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, we're blessed. We're really really blessed,
Speaker 1: Like I really enjoyed when you order the water and
Speaker 1: the white girl came through with the Fiji water that
Speaker 1: was sold. No, they're laughing. That's that's what that's what
Speaker 1: we work for. We work to be com with that
Speaker 1: and then right, that is success when you could sit
Speaker 1: around and say I'm blessed, because I'm way I feel blessed. Serious,
Speaker 1: Let's do another shot. You point your shot, you ain't
Speaker 1: take it? I did I take it. I'm watch he
Speaker 1: took it. Just taking let's take it on the one.
Speaker 1: I'm taking another one guy down? Yeah yeah, So why
Speaker 1: would I stop that record? Gonna have a text from
Speaker 1: my mom my, MoMA bade we love we love that.
Speaker 1: Why would I stop that record? Why? Why? Why would
Speaker 1: you stop? You only you only lose when you stop, bro?
Speaker 1: So what the funk? I gotta why would I do that?
Speaker 1: Like I've done a lot of things I wanted to do,
Speaker 1: And I remember I was with my man's earl and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I gotta you know, new album, I'm
Speaker 1: doing this doing that. He's like, well, what do you
Speaker 1: want to do? Like you didn't already you already did
Speaker 1: it man, like, so you know, I do want to
Speaker 1: put more energy into like a label. I do want
Speaker 1: to find other artists that I can help out. I
Speaker 1: do want to lend you know an opportunity. And once
Speaker 1: you sign an artist, they're gonna be coming at you,
Speaker 1: just like you're coming there. Yeah, I'm not coming at you,
Speaker 1: bro a little bit. No, I'm not. This is right
Speaker 1: or not? How am not coming at him in anyway? Right?
Speaker 1: Right right? I'm not coming at him, bro. I I
Speaker 1: am just literally stating all facts. I may have delivered
Speaker 1: it passionately, but all I was saying was not opinionated
Speaker 1: at all. It was all facts. That's that's it. I
Speaker 1: would never publicly bash my brother like. I would not
Speaker 1: do that. I'm not. I would never, like I said,
Speaker 1: would not bashing black man. I'm sitting here and just
Speaker 1: saying all facts and how I felt sit. I ain't
Speaker 1: saying he right, I ain't saying he wrong. And if
Speaker 1: I did say that, it's because you have me drunken
Speaker 1: and this bitch. But how I really feel, how I
Speaker 1: really feel, is that I'm just staying all facts because
Speaker 1: it was facts stated up here about me that was wrong.
Speaker 1: Facts facts. It's got great, it's got great. Let me
Speaker 1: actually like more making a record of performing the record.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you put the RP sign up there. I'm sorry, man,
Speaker 1: it's just just a sit right for me. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I don't know who that wasn't here? Man, let me
Speaker 1: see that you're funning yourself and putting this in this
Speaker 1: most it was halloween, you know what. You know what's
Speaker 1: crazy is it's so many people that really are r
Speaker 1: I P. Though, really did that? It ain't even funny
Speaker 1: to joke about that. Yeah, that's true, know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's not to bring the mood down and ship
Speaker 1: but you didn't, did you? Yeah? Okay, shot, especially leaving alone. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just looking. I'm just looking at this ship this man,
Speaker 1: unless you want to punch you know this man? Really,
Speaker 1: this man really picked this up and said that that's
Speaker 1: the worst decision. It was Halloween, though it was. This
Speaker 1: is a different one, probably his biggest investment he's ever
Speaker 1: made the music. But make himself beside himself. Do we
Speaker 1: make a noise for that? Yeah, but let's not. But
Speaker 1: let's not front. It wasn't even cousin music, bro, It's
Speaker 1: because it's some bullshit that wasn't even true. He said,
Speaker 1: there was some political bullshit. So this ship are you
Speaker 1: talking about? This ship? This ship don't even make no sense.
Speaker 1: It makes no sense. Okay, uh So what do you
Speaker 1: like more making the music of performing the music? I like?
Speaker 1: I like performing the music. I missed that too. One
Speaker 1: of my first major shows coming back up is gonna
Speaker 1: be Coachella and touring and all of that. I'm excited
Speaker 1: to get back to it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I like performing it because when you make music, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's like a higher, It's like some high. You know,
Speaker 1: it's one of the most intimate things you can do
Speaker 1: in this universe. You're literally creating something from nothing, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You're pulling things that don't exist
Speaker 1: and putting it into a song, making a song, you know,
Speaker 1: producing a song. So that's a crazy, crazy, um just
Speaker 1: process process when you think about it. But performing it
Speaker 1: is when you see the impact that it had on
Speaker 1: the people and you see tears in their energy. Right,
Speaker 1: you can feed off of it. I've gone on stage
Speaker 1: sick as a mother fuck. I'm sure you have two
Speaker 1: and got on stage and your should be gone. You
Speaker 1: ain't got no call no more, you ain't got no
Speaker 1: flu no more. And you on that bitch, that adrenaline
Speaker 1: going because they feed you that energy and the impact
Speaker 1: is immeasurable. You know. The greatest act that you can
Speaker 1: give somebody is the act of inspiration. Is that is
Speaker 1: you know? And to me, when you inspire the people,
Speaker 1: when you inspire the fans like that, that's the ship, bro,
Speaker 1: that's the ship. And you on the twenties too, right,
Speaker 1: what's your rold on the twin what are you doing?
Speaker 1: You finger about in a way? Huh you think about?
Speaker 1: That's my homegirl? Yeah, so you fingerp some ship in
Speaker 1: the twenties is what you're doing? Some ship? What you're doing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the hook you're going you're gonna do for me?
Speaker 1: Up ship? I don't know. Let's just figure it out.
Speaker 1: I said, let's figure it out. And they're gonna go
Speaker 1: through the airport at least at least your keys confirmed
Speaker 1: six pm. You can make it, okay, okay, um, it's
Speaker 1: the it's the first show that I actually got to
Speaker 1: act on. You know what I'm saying, I'm playing a
Speaker 1: Tristan on there, and he Uh, you know, just watch
Speaker 1: the show. It's a good show man. It's my first time,
Speaker 1: you know, acting as a whole character. I can relate
Speaker 1: to the character in a lot of ways. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's a show. Tristan, he's a nigger
Speaker 1: that doesn't have a phone. So he doesn't have a phone. No,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a phone. He's a photographer. He's a
Speaker 1: photographer who do yoga, doesn't have a phone, doesn't funk
Speaker 1: with social media. Right, that's how it started. Get hired
Speaker 1: for ship by email. That's part of the show. Has
Speaker 1: an email. He's not a loser. He's not a loser.
Speaker 1: He the man. He's the man without a phone. Because
Speaker 1: losers are the ones that are addicted to the Internet.
Speaker 1: Was a losers the losers. He don't got a phone,
Speaker 1: he don't got Twitter. The face by the way, the
Speaker 1: people who um the people who can't separate the Internet
Speaker 1: in real life. Yes, it's true, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Those are two different things, different things. So anyway, this
Speaker 1: guy on the show twenties, he doesn't have a phone.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know he's a photographer. He sees this girl,
Speaker 1: one of the main characters on the show. They end
Speaker 1: up she's newly uh celibate, right, not having sex. So
Speaker 1: she's a new version. She's a new version. I'm my
Speaker 1: character is used to having sex. You're not a new version.
Speaker 1: I'm not a new version. I like it. He fucking
Speaker 1: with her, and a lot of drama goes down between
Speaker 1: him because he you know, he puts he tells her
Speaker 1: how it is. You know, he's like, yeah, you want
Speaker 1: some bullshit. You're getting too caught up in this social
Speaker 1: media world. You're getting too caught up like we out here,
Speaker 1: you know, having a time and on a hike, and
Speaker 1: you're worried about people commenting on your ship. We are
Speaker 1: hearing this is affecting our time. And she's a celibate
Speaker 1: one that's on social media, the celibate one on social
Speaker 1: media talking the twist, Yeah, talking to another dude. I
Speaker 1: end up getting on social media, end up being on
Speaker 1: some bullshit. I end up getting on social media and
Speaker 1: like trusted, trusted, tryst. Now that's a good show. Lean
Speaker 1: Away if you know she incredible, incredible, just you watch
Speaker 1: the shot. Yeah, fantastic, it is. It's hard and I
Speaker 1: watched um. I liked her on Master None as well
Speaker 1: you want to go there, by the way, you know
Speaker 1: the reason or another reason. I'm building a movie theater
Speaker 1: because I'm an actual movie I have great taste in movies. Like,
Speaker 1: if you ever want a good movie suggestion, you should
Speaker 1: call me. The top five movies, top five movie. I'm
Speaker 1: affended because I feel the same way. I mean, let's
Speaker 1: go dumb movies first. Okay, yeah, because we can categorize
Speaker 1: them quick. We gotta do this quick. No, all time,
Speaker 1: not dumb. With time. You're gonna sit up here as
Speaker 1: me about Tupac and d M Max and fucking Drae.
Speaker 1: All time dumb movie. No, all time comedy, Top five comedy,
Speaker 1: No overall in the school comedy, no section alright overall
Speaker 1: overall is great already life one for me? That motherfucker Okay,
Speaker 1: it was fun Okay, that motherfucker movie really hits you
Speaker 1: hard because when their whole life go by and in prison,
Speaker 1: for some boys feel like you're thinking of you're it's
Speaker 1: just like no, but it's funny, right all to get
Speaker 1: you gonna eat your corn? Funny right, But for real,
Speaker 1: this is happening too many people wrong for incarceration, People
Speaker 1: who are locked up for no fucking reason for being
Speaker 1: in the wrong place at the wrong time, for getting
Speaker 1: blamed for something they didn't do, for doing something that
Speaker 1: you know, for them changing not even being the same
Speaker 1: person as they was when they made a mistake. Bro
Speaker 1: that ship his core for me, that that movie like,
Speaker 1: so I feel you on that so into my life.
Speaker 1: I'm saw my life. Okay, So what is your no?
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Top five? Quick, that's a good one. But
Speaker 1: go ahead. American me. Oh man, you said one of
Speaker 1: them on You never said American me on here he
Speaker 1: got that actual movies, actual movies, Mother Little Guy as
Speaker 1: the movie I'm two but two, I'm on fire, right man, right, okay,
Speaker 1: yes you are. Yeah, go ahead, man, get out of now.
Speaker 1: I want two of yours. I want two of yours
Speaker 1: and two of yours. Man, I said top five, you
Speaker 1: got me too, because I don't want to sun up.
Speaker 1: You know you don't want them on Shock Redemptions though.
Speaker 1: Damn that's good. That's good that you've seen shows that
Speaker 1: they did based in the universe on Hulu. Um it's
Speaker 1: called Castle Rock but anyway, go ahead, but yeah, that
Speaker 1: that one's good. Um, yeah, I was. I would say
Speaker 1: American slice that one from you. I mean that's school.
Speaker 1: You're a hunting. That's a good one. Okay, we need
Speaker 1: too from you. I really like Forrest Gump. That's a
Speaker 1: great movie. I'm taking that, taking this one. That's one.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's one of my top five. Okay. I
Speaker 1: like Malcolm X. That's cool. You got to you gotta relax.
Speaker 1: I'll see you. You're a real rapper. You're trying to
Speaker 1: take the balls, but then you six six balls. That
Speaker 1: was six. Then I like the Matrix, which one the
Speaker 1: first one? His name and I'm not Anderson. I'm going three.
Speaker 1: I'm going three, going three. Dark Knight too. Is Juice? Okay,
Speaker 1: Juice is crazy? Yeah, Juice is Doop go three? Yeah, brother,
Speaker 1: you know what, Juice was crazy because Tupart really did
Speaker 1: that ship bro delivered. That was like one of the
Speaker 1: best parts of the movie. He really embody that villain ish. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's why it's real life. Tupop made me shooting nigga
Speaker 1: yeah period, And Juice inspired me to be to DJ
Speaker 1: that watching that movie. He was cute from he was local.
Speaker 1: I was just a positive dy. I need to get
Speaker 1: my turn tables after Juice. You know, I always poke
Speaker 1: with Butcher Rock every time, like he brought me up,
Speaker 1: like you cute, you local. He hates me when I
Speaker 1: say that. All right, So what's your third movie? Man?
Speaker 1: I want just to tell your favorite movie. I'm a
Speaker 1: Goonies fanatic. Okay, that was all. That was all. Okay,
Speaker 1: your third movie, Wolf of Wall Street. It gets me emotional,
Speaker 1: brom it gets me emotional. Every time I watched that.
Speaker 1: I watched that movie, like not watched it, but I've
Speaker 1: had it on in the studio sometimes like that for
Speaker 1: his Gun Matrix, Dark Knight, like movies that I've probably
Speaker 1: watched over fifty times just by having them on. But
Speaker 1: every time I'm just like he had the opportunity two
Speaker 1: he funked up so bad and had opportunity to like
Speaker 1: preserve it all, pay the I r s off, get
Speaker 1: him off his back. I have to do is to
Speaker 1: step down from the company and still could be a
Speaker 1: part of the company. And his ego got in a way,
Speaker 1: and it was one of the biggest lessons I ever
Speaker 1: learned watching the movie. It was like, you gotta just
Speaker 1: know that everything is uh temporary. When you try and
Speaker 1: hold on in something, that's when it can destroy you. Anything.
Speaker 1: You know, people, seasons, places, things are all temporary, and
Speaker 1: that's why you have to enjoy that present, right. So
Speaker 1: that's what that movie taught me the most out of anything.
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, all the like the quay lous
Speaker 1: and ship all you know, to turn him get into
Speaker 1: the Lamborghini crazy real confused how he didn't get the
Speaker 1: oscar for that one? Really? I mean I really felt
Speaker 1: like he was high, Yeah, Leo, because he was too
Speaker 1: close to Jeff Bezel. Girls. It wasn't gonna Yeah. I
Speaker 1: ran into him at a party one time, Leo, Leo, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he was telling me about no actually respects me.
Speaker 1: This is no. But he did the jet Bezo though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what was the movie he was in a wild Um,
Speaker 1: I can't think of the name because you got me
Speaker 1: drunken ship, but the one that he was by himself,
Speaker 1: that was where he lost his son and Tom Harden.
Speaker 1: That is crazy. That movie is crazy. H No, it
Speaker 1: was the repe Is that what it was called? You sure? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, that's just ill. I
Speaker 1: don't know why I couldn't think of the title. But anyway,
Speaker 1: he was telling me that he was eating a liver
Speaker 1: and that bitch, and he's a vegan, vegetarian and vegan
Speaker 1: he committed to that rule. Well, I'm like, damn, that's
Speaker 1: fun up because they could have just made you eat
Speaker 1: like some beats or something that looked like a liver.
Speaker 1: He was like, man, they had me in the liver
Speaker 1: and I threw up in a scene and I really
Speaker 1: threw up, and they kept it in the movie. And
Speaker 1: he was like, that was me throwing up. And I
Speaker 1: was like, that's fine. Deserved about next. Yeah, mhm, not
Speaker 1: your leading, Okay, Jack Black exactly, Jack Black is that
Speaker 1: nasty can come on, you know, Jack Black is one
Speaker 1: of the motherfucker's Jack Black is that dude. When I
Speaker 1: when I met him, that's somebody. When I met I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, you met Jack Black. I met Jack Black.
Speaker 1: Jack Black would be hilarious on Drink Channel. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: never met your king took up about the Jack Black story.
Speaker 1: I met him on the first day. The first day
Speaker 1: I went on with Janet, I met Jack Black. Like
Speaker 1: how you keep talking about Yeah, I'm like, she's amazing
Speaker 1: because your face keeps lighting up if you speaking about
Speaker 1: I'm going to know. I mean, I'm just speaking facts. Though.
Speaker 1: The first time. I don't know, I met Jack Blacks
Speaker 1: your head and I like, I like at your face,
Speaker 1: like okay, yeah that was and I met Jack Black
Speaker 1: the way it was your Lakers game. Yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 1: Lakers game, little dude fifth on Friday's fault? What about Friday?
Speaker 1: Of course, I think we need to go into Genres Cocain. Okay,
Speaker 1: you what John do you want? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because it is it revolutionized how nobody said half make
Speaker 1: half big, half Big? Is that motherfucker from Half Baked
Speaker 1: that get a lot of rotases? I get my mom
Speaker 1: Cuban be from that whole ship is from half Biggs.
Speaker 1: Who would have thought Dave Chappelle? All right, who would
Speaker 1: have thought from that movie that Dave Chappelle would be
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle? Now, I would have never never think that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't never guessed that nigga. I would have never
Speaker 1: guessed that nigga. Yeah, he literally like the whole of
Speaker 1: a comedy. Yeah, like like you see he had a
Speaker 1: show on mater a hole. Then who's Kevin Hart? Because
Speaker 1: we can't discount Kevin Hart. Kevin Heart. That Kevin might
Speaker 1: be Eddie Man like coming from paper might be Eddie.
Speaker 1: Now you said, but you said he was the mul
Speaker 1: oh related to hip hop. Damn, you're sucking me up.
Speaker 1: Who knows whatever? Whatever he might be, he might be naseer.
Speaker 1: You can't compare him. You think Dave Chappelle, he Kevin Heart.
Speaker 1: That moment was his legends. You know what I'm saying. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you get married next year, whoever you get married to.
Speaker 1: You got one comedian m hm to Chappelle, Kevin Hard
Speaker 1: at a wedding. At a wedding, who you pick one
Speaker 1: comedian at a wedding? Yeah, I mean the other nigga
Speaker 1: can't catch the private plane. He missed the private plane.
Speaker 1: He's he's in spaces X with somebody else. Who are
Speaker 1: you going with? Well, let me think about their styles
Speaker 1: of comedy. Kevin No, no, listen, listen, Kevin Heart. That's
Speaker 1: Kevin Heart of roast y'all asked pretty good though, Like
Speaker 1: he would make this ship funny, right, Kevin Kevin Hard
Speaker 1: can do that. Like, and I'm talking about personal not
Speaker 1: necessarily like you know what I'm talking about. I've been
Speaker 1: in personal rules from him, and he's tearing the ship.
Speaker 1: He's tearing somebody apart. Dave Chappelle can hit that soul
Speaker 1: sometimes though. Dave Chappelle no my daddy. So if I
Speaker 1: had to pick one, I'm gonna go with Dave Chappelle
Speaker 1: because he all, he like, he probably gonna he probably
Speaker 1: gonna figure some ship out that that's gonna bring everybody
Speaker 1: to tears and make everybody laughing, crying to You're gonna
Speaker 1: make you cry too, different ways and one speech. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. What was it like the day
Speaker 1: you got your rocket fell the chain? The day I
Speaker 1: got my rocket Feller chain. I was in New York City,
Speaker 1: and then he was in New York. I was in
Speaker 1: New York in the brief place of the Mecca. It
Speaker 1: was in New York and it was before I dropped
Speaker 1: my second number one album. I decided, and um, Hove,
Speaker 1: you know, Hope is really involved in management. Uh in
Speaker 1: rock Nation, Imbrock Nation. Let's him, Yeah, let's pick him up.
Speaker 1: He's involved. And I mentioned to him one time that
Speaker 1: the rocket Feller chain he had was hard, And next
Speaker 1: thing you know, he texts me and say, yeah, he
Speaker 1: was like my too hard? What side you want? Like
Speaker 1: the funk? Like he didn't see me A picture of
Speaker 1: a small one and a big one. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: fucking right. I'm like, I'm thinking he's gonna send me
Speaker 1: the invoice. You know. That's and I was cool with
Speaker 1: that ship I got. You know, I could have for
Speaker 1: the forty like yeah, okay ship, Okay, that's the label
Speaker 1: would do it too, Yeah, like yeah, okay, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: with the jeweler. Go ahead, just you know. And I
Speaker 1: still would have been like, I mean, I paid for
Speaker 1: all my ship, you know what. So man, I just
Speaker 1: remember that he hit me. I was in town. I
Speaker 1: was going about to do Funk Flex and my alument
Speaker 1: just came out. I was performing on Jimmy found a
Speaker 1: lot of ship going on, and the jeweler hit me
Speaker 1: and was like, I got something for you. I pulled
Speaker 1: up in the Diamond district. Um a jeweler is this?
Speaker 1: Come on? I'm kind of moved it. It's Raffaelo, right fella,
Speaker 1: where's the Rafaelo? Whoa C edit that part of it
Speaker 1: right now? It was gay. It wasn't Rafayelo. I'm embarrassed.
Speaker 1: I don't remember the name. So I don't put this
Speaker 1: on everything stage. Let everything everything stick. It was on
Speaker 1: the diamond this shrip. You're sucking me up. Man. It's okay,
Speaker 1: it's beautiful because I'm just obviously you got me in
Speaker 1: this bit twisted beautiful. Would you like? You know? This
Speaker 1: is the new rock No listen finished, shut out black
Speaker 1: own businesses, shout out the black owned business But it
Speaker 1: just so I run inside. I grabbed the chain, Cuban link,
Speaker 1: rocket fell you know all go Cuban League, Rocketfeller chain,
Speaker 1: and um, it just reminded me that motherfucking that that
Speaker 1: power of your mind is real. Bro. He's used to
Speaker 1: want that Rocketfeller chain growing up. And the Jesus Peace too.
Speaker 1: I remember when I got to Jesus Peace to Jacob,
Speaker 1: Jesus Peace from you. Don c was the one who
Speaker 1: actually gave it to me from you, you know, courtesy,
Speaker 1: and um, when I lost my Jesus Peace, Cutty gave
Speaker 1: me his. That's what I'm saying. That the type of
Speaker 1: brotherhood that was going on with us, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So when I say that, when I talk
Speaker 1: about that good music, it's like that that was a
Speaker 1: real brotherhood to me. And you know, getting Rocketfeller chains
Speaker 1: and Jesus pieces and all those things. They got a
Speaker 1: deeper slavery to him. Let me ask you, at what
Speaker 1: point in your career did you lose with Jesus Because
Speaker 1: Jesus pieces write a passage, right, So you lost your
Speaker 1: Jesus peace and Cutty replaced it. Yeah. I lost my
Speaker 1: Jesus Peace and I didn't have enough money to replace it. Um.
Speaker 1: And I was at a show. I was doing a
Speaker 1: show sold out at the Key or somewhere, uh, the
Speaker 1: Fine whatever theater that is on a Hollywood boulevard between
Speaker 1: Vine and Um where Rosco's is. And he came to
Speaker 1: the show and that and that was and that was
Speaker 1: around the time when he was when he was leaving
Speaker 1: good music as well, you know, um and starting his own,
Speaker 1: starting his own you know what I'm saying. And he
Speaker 1: gave me to Jesus peace and he said, you know,
Speaker 1: this brought me a lot of luck. And you know,
Speaker 1: I hope they do the same for you. So you
Speaker 1: watched this documentary. I didn't watch it yet. No, I
Speaker 1: ain't watching yet. No, let's take a shot if you
Speaker 1: know watching. I'm just being honest because you should have
Speaker 1: watched it. That's that's the homie is I am't gonna
Speaker 1: watch it. They speak they speak about you very holly. No,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna watch Do you want a Japanese? Are
Speaker 1: you gonna do? What? Did they say? It's beautiful? Man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just beautiful. Just let me ride. Yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: don't order. I really know ye give us some forty two?
Speaker 1: How do you call it four? To give him some
Speaker 1: four or two? Not forty two? Sean, I really appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Don't overdo them, bro, you don't have to do You
Speaker 1: don't like that you have to do them like that. Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch that. I'm gonna watch the Cutty documentary though. No,
Speaker 1: it's it's very good. I've been Uh, that's not that's
Speaker 1: not what's going to take this. First before you go
Speaker 1: to this person, Sottles, I want you to know something
Speaker 1: everything that you're going through, as far as knowing your business,
Speaker 1: it's absolutely correct. I've done that myself. I didn't know
Speaker 1: about what it is. Can you probably have? I don't
Speaker 1: think tragic you can. You can't write about it. You
Speaker 1: don't think Martin might have. I think I've been through that.
Speaker 1: My only concern is did disconnect And I don't want
Speaker 1: to keep going back to this. But disconnect was you
Speaker 1: guys speaking, and I know you you probably said because
Speaker 1: you said earlier you said you didn't have his number.
Speaker 1: One of me if I say, understandable, but mean on
Speaker 1: people like Nas, knowing people like Jay, you knowing people
Speaker 1: like Puff. But I think he wanted from you was
Speaker 1: to ride with him to the end. All right, I
Speaker 1: think you were. I think I think I think you were.
Speaker 1: I think you but I think it wasn't clear to him.
Speaker 1: I'm not on his side, on your side, I'm on
Speaker 1: the side of truth. I'm on the side of positivity.
Speaker 1: I want your brothers to work it out. Had I
Speaker 1: been whatever he said, I would have tried to stop.
Speaker 1: But I couldn't because at first I'm thinking he's bigging
Speaker 1: you up. So I'm sitting there. Yes, but as a brother,
Speaker 1: we sat and we hung out two days later, and
Speaker 1: I know for a fact he didn't mean his statements.
Speaker 1: His statements was coming from probably a hurtful stands. As
Speaker 1: we all are, we're all human. None of us are impeccable, right, Well,
Speaker 1: you should be impeccable with your words. I respect that.
Speaker 1: But as I keep trying to get you to take
Speaker 1: a shot, you keep saying nope. I took a shot.
Speaker 1: Let's take another one. Let's but let me feel I'm
Speaker 1: just deep. This is deep statement. And what I want
Speaker 1: to say is the manage your brother. He loves you.
Speaker 1: I feel like he was and I can't speak for him,
Speaker 1: but I feel like he was hurt at the moment
Speaker 1: and he had her smoke ship is up. Smoked it
Speaker 1: not smoked it? Good? Good god? Yeah, I'm just joined
Speaker 1: the great You could just join the grades. Can you
Speaker 1: smoked it now? I alright, alright? Statement so saying basically
Speaker 1: that we need to work it out here, I really
Speaker 1: would like you guys to work it out, because I
Speaker 1: ain't know when he said that that was the worst
Speaker 1: thing he ever did. He wasn't saying the worst thing
Speaker 1: he ever did financially. And I knew that's how you
Speaker 1: broke it down. That's why I wanted you to bring
Speaker 1: it down. That's not what he meant. He meant that
Speaker 1: He's probably this is what I think he meant. I
Speaker 1: cannot think how him. This is one of his most
Speaker 1: loyal you know, you say he felt betrayed. That's what
Speaker 1: I think. I think that he was like everyone in
Speaker 1: the world, Big Seawan can't leave me, Big is not
Speaker 1: the guy that's gonna walk away. So when you said
Speaker 1: the worst thing, and this is me knowing about any
Speaker 1: of you, you looking got his facial expressions, looking at everything,
Speaker 1: That's what I think he meant. Do you agree with me?
Speaker 1: Or um? Yeah? I mean I think he just thought
Speaker 1: that I was not lords to him. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't think he meant it on it. I didn't think
Speaker 1: he meant his worst financial decision, because he didn't say that.
Speaker 1: He just said the worst decision. So that's why I
Speaker 1: took a personal you know what I'm saying. But then
Speaker 1: he explained because you know, came out of support of
Speaker 1: the Democrats, which just wasn't true. So therefore the statement
Speaker 1: has no validity to it. So to me, it's not
Speaker 1: even in false. So that's why you know, I'm glad
Speaker 1: you brought it up. Good. That's no truth to it.
Speaker 1: But what I can say is that there is factual
Speaker 1: truth that I am old money. That's a fact. That's
Speaker 1: a fact. That's not like a twisted fact. That's not
Speaker 1: like an opinion. That's not like being like you man,
Speaker 1: when you had to meet your CD back when he
Speaker 1: was at this, man, I didn't you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: how don man, you know whatever, whatever the case is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a different bro. This is a fact. So we
Speaker 1: did establish that you never actually sat school to him
Speaker 1: as a home. You're right, and if we was to
Speaker 1: do that, like I'm asking you, this is gonna. I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry that y'all relationship is public. Right, But let's
Speaker 1: suppose this interview drops out, he sees it and he goes, Sean,
Speaker 1: let's be immallible. Uh, let's go ri some home. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's what's gonna happen. He's probably gonna be mad, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think you say anything wrong. So I don't
Speaker 1: think you said I didn't say anything wrong. And you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. To keep it real with you,
Speaker 1: I have tried to text him about things before, and
Speaker 1: when it gets over two or three lines, he said,
Speaker 1: this text is too long. We ain't texting. I ain't
Speaker 1: so so I have tried to communicate. So I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna sit up here and say like I have tried
Speaker 1: to go into things before. I have tried to open
Speaker 1: up to him via that way. Now it has been
Speaker 1: times in person, but Bro, I'm somebody who respects the
Speaker 1: vibe you know, I hate what motherfucker's don't respect the vibe.
Speaker 1: But let me when I'm in the studio, this is
Speaker 1: not the time to bring up in a fucking business.
Speaker 1: To me, I hate it. A matter of fact, I
Speaker 1: hate it when when I am when I'm sucking my girl, bro,
Speaker 1: when I'm in the pussy, don't talk to me about
Speaker 1: my mom. This is not the time for that, I
Speaker 1: don't think. So don't talk to me about something that
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing to do with something. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: vibe musically. Sometimes when you bring up some ship, it
Speaker 1: throws the vibe ofll no but for you. But what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I haven't had the opportunity to meet
Speaker 1: and sit and talking with him. I haven't had an
Speaker 1: opportunity since I've known that. For a fact, people may
Speaker 1: have thought that I leave that information. When when Charlotta
Speaker 1: Magne first said the amount of money he owed me,
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought that. I called Charlotte Maagne. I called
Speaker 1: Charlotte Magne. It was like, who the fun told you that?
Speaker 1: And then when I talked to somebody on you know
Speaker 1: who was representing at the time, they was like, are
Speaker 1: you leaking in? I'm like, bro, I didn't leave the ship.
Speaker 1: But sometimes when I say things, I don't think people
Speaker 1: hear me right, Like I didn't leave you. I'm not
Speaker 1: lying to you. I would I would never lie to
Speaker 1: know about no man in my life, about no ship
Speaker 1: like that, I said. I didn't say it after after
Speaker 1: Charlottagne leaked did have you ever been in the same
Speaker 1: room with y'all? And then I said on the song
Speaker 1: with BENI the butcher as labels as upbees, that only
Speaker 1: MS or something like that. But that's when I, honestly,
Speaker 1: that's when I thought Universal was owing me some money too,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's when when that audit
Speaker 1: was going on, because I'm like, yo, I need these MS.
Speaker 1: And then later on it came out after they did
Speaker 1: they researched that that money was paid m hm already
Speaker 1: the money was already paid out. And but my contract,
Speaker 1: instead of getting my money paid directly to me, which
Speaker 1: I would do if I signed an artist any woralties
Speaker 1: that they're old get directly from the distribute distribution, he
Speaker 1: had to go you know, like some cash money type ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it goes to them
Speaker 1: and they pay you out. So let's just say Easter Sunday,
Speaker 1: Oh white, Yeah, bunnies everywhere. Okay, what's that your call?
Speaker 1: I had a car bones incident. Well nuts, wal hunts
Speaker 1: and bunnies, wal nuts and bunny What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: But let's just write with it. He's going some and
Speaker 1: meet up Easter Sunday when they gotta wait that long.
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't know. I just feel like
Speaker 1: that's when it is coming back. Just for real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: meet up Easter Sunday, you expressed, because I imagine how
Speaker 1: you just spoke to us. You know, this cameras is here.
Speaker 1: You you're not You're not oblivious these cameras here. But
Speaker 1: your speech to Kanye might be different. Huh on Easter Sunday.
Speaker 1: What would you say to me if you get the
Speaker 1: opportunity to say, yo, listen, brother, it ain't nothing personal.
Speaker 1: Who would you say? Well, I wouldn't be drunk saying
Speaker 1: it one maybe he's drove. What I would say is that,
Speaker 1: uh that I I try my best to be loyal
Speaker 1: to you, man. That's it. Man. I called every time
Speaker 1: you called me, I was here. It's like, if you
Speaker 1: wanted my support, all you have to do is call
Speaker 1: me man like I would have been there every time.
Speaker 1: I'm gladly supporting you is a dream of mine. Bro,
Speaker 1: You're my idol. You know what I'm saying. That's all
Speaker 1: I needed was just a communication. But I feel like
Speaker 1: I got treated more like a um as a thing
Speaker 1: and then more than more so than the person. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like the respect ain't there. And
Speaker 1: you know, I would just say, like Bro, like I
Speaker 1: need my money too, I need my fucking money man,
Speaker 1: because it's not money that I'm asking for, it's it's
Speaker 1: my money because you oh yeah, ain't nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: And I would say that, you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what else i'd say, but something like that. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a beautiful goddamn thing. Match on, I just want to
Speaker 1: thank you. What come you do? Like it? On the shot?
Speaker 1: I feel like it was one more shot. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: little you got Indie in your family because you're You're
Speaker 1: head looked really like like Indian. Like you know what
Speaker 1: I think I do? Yeah, my grand my granddad's I got.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of Nigerian though I'm sixty percent
Speaker 1: Nigerian here like a lot of Nigerian. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying uh, some Irish and uh and probably a
Speaker 1: little bit in Indian. I would say my granddad definitely
Speaker 1: was like I had a real Indian look to him,
Speaker 1: and my grandma and my dad's side too. So I
Speaker 1: don't know who knows, are you what about? You know?
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican Okay, totally different thing, you know. You know,
Speaker 1: mother fucker's bet to say they make for Indian. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you like we cut people with racist. It's a little
Speaker 1: different right in Puerto Rican Land. Yeah, hey, it's all
Speaker 1: in Puerto Rican Land, yo, you know listen, but hey,
Speaker 1: the most thing I am is Nigerian shoutouts to the
Speaker 1: Nigerian Yeah, Nigerian head, saw a loutles soluttle what you
Speaker 1: got to say before you would get about it here.
Speaker 1: I gotta say that I appreciate y'all. We be sad.
Speaker 1: We'll get a song together. Right, you're gonna make up? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm glad we talked about that because I was really confused.
Speaker 1: You I didn't know what then was going on? Yeah
Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, Yeah, I'm very petty, um for your
Speaker 1: last what we want to say? The people to my people?
Speaker 1: Rings on? Right, you got two rings on? You're not
Speaker 1: taking do right, No, not yet, but what is that?
Speaker 1: What kind of rockets? That's an opal right here? What Opal?
Speaker 1: Australian Opal? And this is like Citrin and this ship
Speaker 1: like I forgot what this outer two rocks are, but
Speaker 1: it's something something rare. It's like some little oozy bird
Speaker 1: ship ship. No, that was a pink diamond. Okay, that's different.
Speaker 1: It's just not the pink diamond. It's not the pink diamond.
Speaker 1: It costs more than the diamond, but it's it's not
Speaker 1: a diamond though. Yeah, ok yeah, that was a gift
Speaker 1: too from person from where. It was a Valentine's Day gift.
Speaker 1: Who else would it be from? Here? You know it's
Speaker 1: from who else would it be from? Man? Yeah? Why? Why?
Speaker 1: Why you act like you're not in love though? Man?
Speaker 1: Come on man, when were talking about man? We can't
Speaker 1: get sister stiff, I didn't say that cool I'm in love.
Speaker 1: I like saying I'm in love a real nick I'm
Speaker 1: in love ship sounds good, don't it. I don't hard
Speaker 1: that ship. I can see it in your face. You
Speaker 1: don't want to go. You don't want go on olse,
Speaker 1: you want to stay honestly, to be a rail with you.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like talking about it. I respect that
Speaker 1: as well, But I mean, but you know you ain't
Speaker 1: I ain't saying you wrong. I like that. I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that. I'm gonna listen to me. I'm so
Speaker 1: glad you came here. I'm so glad you sat down
Speaker 1: with us, because one thing for sure, do things for certain.
Speaker 1: I want people to understand and know that we did
Speaker 1: not invite you here because of a certain statement that
Speaker 1: was made because of you. We invited you here because
Speaker 1: you deserve to be here prior to that, after that,
Speaker 1: and we're going to continue to support our legends. Are
Speaker 1: people who who who needs to be supported, and you're
Speaker 1: one of them. And we respect you. We hope and
Speaker 1: honor and wish if you and the brother work it out.
Speaker 1: Got nothing to really do with us, and ain't it
Speaker 1: ain't even nothing. It ain't even nothing to work out. Really,
Speaker 1: I mean, I got love for him, and you know
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna work out. It's just business. Handle the business.
Speaker 1: And but I should talk to him about that though,
Speaker 1: one on one. I you know, as a person that's
Speaker 1: been in this business, you know, twenty some our years.
Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing I ever regret. It was just
Speaker 1: not pulling my homeie to the side for certain things.
Speaker 1: But I'm not perfect though, bro, Yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I understand people all the candle to me like I'm perfect.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I see a lot of criticism about me. Sometimes
Speaker 1: they'd be like, oh, you could have said a better line,
Speaker 1: this line got a document and at all these opinions,
Speaker 1: and it's like, at least time out here saying at
Speaker 1: least time I hear trying, you know, but you know,
Speaker 1: holding that we just gotta do one more shot before. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: come on, you gotta you can't do it for you
Speaker 1: because this is hip hop. I want to say something.
Speaker 1: I want to say more shot. No, no, no, I
Speaker 1: want to say to my people that I mean, you
Speaker 1: gotta go. You go, corepl Gables. We are gonna We're
Speaker 1: going to Calli's house. We're going the same part take
Speaker 1: on one shot. Brother. Hello, Hello, Hello. I want to
Speaker 1: say to my people, thanks for fucking riding with me, man,
Speaker 1: Thanks for holding me down, Thanks for defending me, Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening to me when motherfucker's may say crazy things
Speaker 1: about me. Thanks for seeing who I really am. Thanks
Speaker 1: for being on the ride with me and noticing that
Speaker 1: I'm somebody who makes all sorts of different types of music.
Speaker 1: Thanks for hopping on that journey with me, Thanks for
Speaker 1: changing my life, Thanks for giving me the opportunity to
Speaker 1: buy my mom a house, and from my grandma to
Speaker 1: see that before she passed away. It's because of y'all,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Thanks to everybody who ever
Speaker 1: supported me. Thanks to the listeners, thanks to my city
Speaker 1: de Trait, thanks to my my family unit, thanks to
Speaker 1: my team, thanks to Kanye, thanks to uh, everybody who
Speaker 1: ever helped me get to where I'm at. Man, I
Speaker 1: appreciate it more than anything. All Right, we take it
Speaker 1: one last shot. That's it, and we're gonna go to
Speaker 1: the same party. Don't worry about it. I mean, um,
Speaker 1: come on, come on. You know I expect y'all man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I expect my Detroit lines man man trying to think
Speaker 1: anything else. We didn't on his team. We talked about
Speaker 1: the movie. Did Yeah, it's clear. I think we're pretty clear.
Speaker 1: You were clear. It was definitely an embarrassing Oney, you're
Speaker 1: just gonna be like, man, what's the no. You're good
Speaker 1: broa because you know why you're human. I'm human, bro.
Speaker 1: That's the thing about it is. And I think that's
Speaker 1: the thing about what he said, was he was being human.
Speaker 1: He wasn't. It was. It was human. That wasn't. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you, I'm gonna keep it real with you,
Speaker 1: and I'm done talking about this. This is the last
Speaker 1: thing you're gonna say about this. Take a shot first
Speaker 1: after No, let me get this thought. Okay, I'm in that. Actually,
Speaker 1: let me think about what the fun was I saying,
Speaker 1: Oh the text text, No, not the text, what he said,
Speaker 1: it just wasn't. It was. It was personal, bro, It
Speaker 1: was personal. It wasn't just like him being human. It
Speaker 1: was like a personal shot to me. It was. Let
Speaker 1: you finish. I have not taken one personal shot to him.
Speaker 1: I've only strictly talked about business and about how how
Speaker 1: much I appreciate it for changing my life. I know
Speaker 1: the opportunity he gave me. I'm not disregarding that. But
Speaker 1: that's not I mean, okay, I guess, yeah, he's human.
Speaker 1: It's human. Yeah, it's human. He's also a man of God, though,
Speaker 1: and I and I and maybe you know I read
Speaker 1: the four agreements, and one of them is to not
Speaker 1: have um any assumptions and expectations. So maybe I shouldn't
Speaker 1: expect him to be a man of God or you
Speaker 1: know somebody who wouldn't say, well, let me just be clear,
Speaker 1: a man of God. No, I wasn't done. He is
Speaker 1: a man of God. We all are a man of guys,
Speaker 1: a man of guy who would think to not say that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But also you could also
Speaker 1: be cutting the moment, calling the moment, and let's just
Speaker 1: be clear. A man of God, he is a man
Speaker 1: of God. God says, God says, I'm I'm the God.
Speaker 1: I'm the only God the worship nobody else, no one else. Right.
Speaker 1: That's the most petty is fucking thing in existence. Let's
Speaker 1: think about it. Let's think about if you know you
Speaker 1: the man in this world, why should I even tell
Speaker 1: you not to fun with someone else? That's petti eisiness.
Speaker 1: So being petty sometimes it's being of God. I killed that.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no no, because there
Speaker 1: is no greater God, there is no He is the Almighty.
Speaker 1: That's what I said. So he knows. So when people
Speaker 1: get false gods, these false prophets, when people follow people
Speaker 1: like gods, that is not godly. In fact, that is
Speaker 1: that is ungoly. These people we are all we are
Speaker 1: all God body. We are all made in the image
Speaker 1: of God and made by God. The only difference is
Speaker 1: God made us. We didn't make God. So God is
Speaker 1: the Almighty, the praiser. So what I'm saying is, no,
Speaker 1: the pettiness, pettiness doesn't exist because that is not God
Speaker 1: is only love. That's true, that's true. But pettiness and
Speaker 1: selfishness is a part of God. Selfishness when you say
Speaker 1: you could only praise me and that's selfish, No, that's
Speaker 1: not selfish. Selfish, bro, that is not selfish. Why would
Speaker 1: that be selfish? We should not be drinking and talking
Speaker 1: religion right now, right now? All right, we gotta go
Speaker 1: part two then, because another to because look, that's a
Speaker 1: that's a deeper discussions, deep and in my opinion, my opinion,
Speaker 1: when you're selfish sometimes and when you're petty, you are
Speaker 1: a reflection of God. No, that is definitely not Who's God.
Speaker 1: That is devilish, bro, that is like who God is.
Speaker 1: That though, that's the problem we're gonna have right now.
Speaker 1: I don't want to petty God, but your God is
Speaker 1: petty God. Says worship and no one else every God?
Speaker 1: Are you Christian? Are you both? Both? Both scriptions? Karan?
Speaker 1: Because people were praising false guys, because people were praising
Speaker 1: people as guys. And is that right? Guy? Ship bro
Speaker 1: this is the wrong conversation, right to that's not right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is true. What cycles would beat brocs false experience.
Speaker 1: It's trading false guys. And we are done this interview. Yes,
Speaker 1: you're taking another shot. That's it's never ending interview. Brothers.
Speaker 1: This is it. We're on the same party. Come on,
Speaker 1: what was I gonna say? Though? See you continuing years ahead?
Speaker 1: Now that's it. That's all I got to say. One
Speaker 1: more shot and that's it. Yeah, I didn't sign off.
Speaker 1: We don't we love you all. That's that's, that's what
Speaker 1: it is. Look on, take one look at my shot.
Speaker 1: Take a little a shot and that's it. That's that's
Speaker 1: You've been sitting there with that whole shot. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: he just poured it from me. That's a double shot.
Speaker 1: I told you not to do at kind of shots. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. You talk like it wraps. He's like,
Speaker 1: that's a double shot, just like how you wrapped. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it solo, So we appreciate you brother, for real. No, no,
Speaker 1: not for real. That's what I showed was about. Our
Speaker 1: show was about giving people flowers to their face. Um.
Speaker 1: We made sure, we want to make sure this wasn't
Speaker 1: of a bottle show. And I loved how you asked
Speaker 1: it answered every car you question, and you kept your cool.
Speaker 1: You didn't get an emotional at one point, and that
Speaker 1: was when I was scared of. I thought when when
Speaker 1: you said he finally agreed to doing Dream Chance, I
Speaker 1: thought you was gonna be here and be emotional. I
Speaker 1: was because emotions weakness. I was. I got too much.
Speaker 1: I can't be caring anger around. But you know I
Speaker 1: probably got passionate about speaking about these things because I
Speaker 1: have been carrying them around. But that's not anger. That's
Speaker 1: just I gotta come here and stand up for man,
Speaker 1: you know, the same way my grandma would have came
Speaker 1: up and stood up for herself. I gotta stand up
Speaker 1: for myself, you know. So that just is what it
Speaker 1: is in my bloodline. I'm just a motherfucking black man
Speaker 1: in America. I'll love the work anything. In any discrepancies
Speaker 1: I ever got out, I don't got nuther love that's
Speaker 1: what the funk it is man. That's it brother, that's
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