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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: I'm Steve de Seger.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Air Tours.

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Speaker 3: Jason Martin, we are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: Radio studios eleven o one Eastern Time.

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Speaker 4: One ticket to the Final Four has been punched.

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Speaker 3: Illinois takes care of Iowa earlier in the day, and

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Speaker 3: we are watching just a second half masterclass from the

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Speaker 3: Arizona Wildcats. Arizona trailed by seven at the half against Purdue.

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Speaker 3: They now lead by fifteen. Arizona has outscored the Purdue

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Speaker 3: Boilermakers by twenty two points in the second half. They

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Speaker 3: are about two minutes it's away from their first trip

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Speaker 3: to the Final Four since two thousand and one. Jason Martin,

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Speaker 3: what do you have to say about this second half surge.

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Speaker 3: We spent all day preparing for two teams in the

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Speaker 3: Big Ten to advance to the Final four. We are

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Speaker 3: less than two minutes away, or right around two minutes away.

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Speaker 3: This game is still not over. It's now down to

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Speaker 3: a thirteen point Arizona lead. What do you think of

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Speaker 3: this game and this run from the Arizona Wildcats.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, this is a team I picked to

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Speaker 5: win it ball, and this is what you would expect.

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Speaker 5: That first half didn't go well for them at all.

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Speaker 5: They got outplayed, and I thought they got out hustled

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Speaker 5: as well. But then you come out in the second

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Speaker 5: half and they just had a different gear and Purdue

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Speaker 5: couldn't answer it. Like Arizona started making a lot more shots.

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Speaker 5: They also started hitting the glass a lot harder. It

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Speaker 5: got a bit more physical, and sometimes that's a produe's game,

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Speaker 5: but in this case, Arizona was forcing the issue. They're

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Speaker 5: just the better team by my estimation. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 5: number one versus number two. You're supposed to have a dogfight.

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Speaker 5: Number two put up a good fight, but then you

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Speaker 5: know this is gonna look like a really lopsided game,

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Speaker 5: where in the first twenty minutes it looked almost the

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Speaker 5: exact opposite of this. But Arizona has this in them.

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Speaker 5: They're a team that can turn it on if they

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Speaker 5: absolutely have to and come back against a very, very

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Speaker 5: good team, not just a mediocre team. You've seen that.

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Speaker 5: You know, you can trail Houston and you can come

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Speaker 5: back and beat Houston. You can trail Purdue and you

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Speaker 5: can come back and blow them out. In the second half.

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Speaker 5: That's why I think they're the most complete team in

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Speaker 5: college basketball, because they actually can answer the bell when

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Speaker 5: they take a gut punch, and that's really what we

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Speaker 5: saw in that first half. So I come away from

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Speaker 5: this game quite impressed with just the resolve and the

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Speaker 5: way that they came out in the second half to

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Speaker 5: just put this thing out of reach.

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Speaker 3: So a couple things on the Arizona Wacats, who now

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Speaker 3: have a fifteen point lead.

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Speaker 4: We are under a minute to go.

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Speaker 3: Arizona again has not been to the Final Four since

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Speaker 3: two thousand and one, So a couple things. One, they

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Speaker 3: are unquestionably the most battle tested team. And by the way,

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Speaker 3: and an offensive or defensive rebound from Arizona, Matt Painter

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Speaker 3: has called off the dog. So Arizona, up seventy six

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Speaker 3: sixty one per due is not fouling. Arizona will head

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Speaker 3: to its first Final Four since two thousand and one.

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Speaker 3: Arnie Spanier, I have sent the text to see if

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Speaker 3: he wants to join us.

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Speaker 4: We will see if we get a response.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Arney drinks anymore, but if there was

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Speaker 3: ever a knight to have a few cold ones, he

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Speaker 3: deserves it. You know he was just young with a ponytail,

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Speaker 3: live at his best life. You know, the last time

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Speaker 3: Arizona made a Final four, I know he was in

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis in nineteen ninety seven when they won their only

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Speaker 3: national title. And we do officially have a final final

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Speaker 3: score seventy nine to sixty four. The Arizona Wildcats are

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Speaker 3: headed to the Final four, first time since two thousand

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Speaker 3: and one. And yeah, to piggyback off of a lot

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Speaker 3: of what you said, one, I think there are two

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Speaker 3: things that stand out. Arizona was unquestionably the most battle

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Speaker 3: tested team in college basketball this year. Listen, I'll just

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Speaker 3: go through some of their wins. Opening night Florida, I

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Speaker 3: one at Yukon. So first of all, right, there Yukon's

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Speaker 3: in an Elite eight. They won at Yukon, beat Florida,

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Speaker 3: beat Alabama. And then once they get to Big Twelve play,

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Speaker 3: I still think the Big Twelve was the best team,

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Speaker 3: best conference in college basketball.

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Speaker 4: Two games they win the league by.

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Speaker 3: Two full games, beat Houston at Houston, beat Iowa State

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Speaker 3: tw and this was the most battle tested team in

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Speaker 3: college basketball. I will say the first half did worry

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Speaker 3: me because the knock on Arizona, if you want to

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Speaker 3: call it a knock all year long, they don't shoot

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to find the first half stats. I cannot

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Speaker 3: find them. I believe Purdue made six three pointers and

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Speaker 3: first half seven or fourteen. Then I don't think Perdue

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Speaker 3: pretty close to it, because they showed the stats. Let's

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Speaker 3: see here, really late. So Purdue finishes, Let's see here,

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Speaker 3: Let's take a quick look, eight of twenty two. So

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Speaker 3: one of eight is that?

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Speaker 4: Is my math right on that?

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Speaker 3: So one of eight in the second half, and that

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Speaker 3: was It wasn't a bugaboo because it never burned them.

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Speaker 3: But if you wanted to punch the hole in Arizona

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Speaker 3: all year, it was if somebody gets hot from three,

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Speaker 3: what ends up happening? And more specifically, if they have

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Speaker 3: I've said it two or three times. Tommy Lloyd is

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Speaker 3: on the mic right now. We are efforting sound. The

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Speaker 3: best part is Shay is our board oup, not our

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Speaker 3: a famous Arizona State graduate, so he is gonna have

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Speaker 3: to comb through hours hours of Arizona sound. But Arizona

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Speaker 3: j Martin, I know, I didn't really give you much

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Speaker 3: Arnie Spaniard. But they are headed to the Final four.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, good for them. First of all, I mean

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Speaker 5: it's obviously a blue blood program. Sorry, Rick Patino. It's

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Speaker 5: a blue blood program that just hasn't been back here

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Speaker 5: team that when they have DeAndre Ayton, they can't get

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Speaker 5: out of the first weekend. Like those are the kinds

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Speaker 5: It goes back to Loot I think the last time

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Speaker 5: Tommy Lloyd seems like a really good dude. Like listening

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Speaker 5: handle on all of those things. And so again, very

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Speaker 5: complete team. They've got size, they can make shots, they

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Speaker 5: can come back on you no matter how good you are.

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Speaker 5: That's why I like them going in. Here's the sad thing, right,

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Speaker 5: and I know there's a lot of other games to

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Speaker 5: talk about, but I really my final before I saw

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Speaker 5: Michigan in the final because that's the game that stood

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Speaker 5: out to me. But we're not going to get that

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Speaker 5: even if Michigan wins tomorrow, which I think they will,

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Speaker 5: because that will be a final four matchup instead, and

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Speaker 5: I feel like that's more a national title game, just

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Speaker 4: You know, it's so funny.

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Speaker 3: I did not realize, you know, like you fill out

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Speaker 3: and it did not hit me until so I was

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Speaker 3: on last night with Mike Harmon, you know, obviously, and

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Speaker 3: we were talking about both the Yukon Saint John's game.

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Speaker 3: Michigan State game. And that was when it hit me.

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, are we going to get Arizona

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Speaker 3: is a conversation for us to have, you know, tomorrow

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Speaker 3: But yeah, no, it is disappointing. And I do think

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Speaker 3: they are the two best teams. Michigan of course dominated.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I guess that's what I guess. The reason

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Speaker 5: why is because Duke was the overall number ones.

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Speaker 3: And it goes and I'll say this too, you know, uh,

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Speaker 3: the bracket, right, it became this foregone conclusion that Duke

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Speaker 3: And I do think that Arizona fans kind of pushed

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Speaker 3: for why are we not in consideration they entered the

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Speaker 3: tournament at thirty two and two Big twelve regular season

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Speaker 3: great wins, and I don't have the resumes in front

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Speaker 3: is a great point by you. Is like, now that

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Speaker 3: were three teams that were considered to be a cut

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Speaker 3: above everybody else. Yes, famously I had Florid in that group.

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Speaker 3: I was clearly dead wrong on that. But now that

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Speaker 3: advanced to the Final four, Like, I guess it is

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Speaker 3: a fair point by you of what. I don't know

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Speaker 3: a fair point I guess by Arizona fans. You know,

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Speaker 3: when the bracket came out of like wait a second, now,

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Speaker 3: why are we not the number one overall seed? And

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Speaker 3: obviously it could set up an incredible semi final, which

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Speaker 3: obviously would unfortunately not be the final, because I agree

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Speaker 3: with you. I think those are the two best teams.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Like, look, I mean my final was Arizona Duke,

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Speaker 5: and we'll see. I mean, Yukon's gonna give Duke some

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Speaker 5: trouble tomorrow, no question about that. But even if so, Duke,

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Speaker 5: you know, they're still gonn't have to win another game

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Speaker 5: and gets still annoy if they want to get to

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Speaker 4: Excuse you, they got a game tomorrow, those Duke Blue Devils.

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Speaker 5: No I heard I said before that. I said Yukon's

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Speaker 5: past that, Yeah, No, I didn't Perry Farny span He's Arizona.

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Speaker 5: Duke's a worthy final, don't get me wrong. I just

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Speaker 5: feel like Arizona and Michigan. No, it's fair you used

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Speaker 5: to you used the phrase a cut above. That's what

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Speaker 5: I That's the way I see it right now. I

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Speaker 5: just look at those two teams and say, when I

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Speaker 5: watched them play, they just look like absolute juggernauts. So

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Speaker 5: they look like the two just most seasoned and ready

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Speaker 5: basketball teams. Duke has just kind of Yes, they have

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Speaker 5: gotten through, but I feel like in every game they've

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Speaker 5: that was below par.

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Speaker 3: We are broadcasting live. Yes, we are live eleven twenty

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Speaker 3: Arizona alum here at Fox Sports Radio, Arnie Spinner. Let's

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Speaker 3: start with this, Arnie. Let's see how good the Arizona

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Speaker 8: Go first of all? Twenty two's the answer. And good jock, buddy,

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Speaker 8: what a great game man that was. That was a

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Speaker 5: One thing I think we can agree on is that

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Speaker 2: Well, two things, Arnie Spanier, look at that first and foremost,

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Speaker 8: Once we got you know, we're playing the way we

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Speaker 5: Be on By the way, he side stepped your question,

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Speaker 8: Though, Oh, at halftime, I was nervous. I was worried.

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Speaker 2: But this is actually what Arnie's talking about, This is

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Speaker 4: Was up nineteen.

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Speaker 4: You were you were quoting Billy Packer. You were quoting

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Speaker 2: So couple the same thing happened. I mean, the team

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Speaker 4: But like, how fun is it? How fun has the

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Speaker 3: Because there are times where you get hot for a

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Speaker 8: You know, it's so funny. Out of all the games,

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Speaker 8: had seven or eight division ie brothers and sisters. One

434
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Speaker 8: guy plays in the NFL, as one of his brothers does.

435
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Speaker 8: It's just amazing how strong he is. He had a

436
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 8: great game against Florida. You know it was the biggest

437
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Speaker 8: question mark. Is Moke Crevis seven too, so strong, so big?

438
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Speaker 8: You know, I remember marketing who's a great player now

439
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 8: in the NBA. I didn't think it was going to

440
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 8: be that good when he came from you of a,

441
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Speaker 8: I'm starting to underestimate Crevas. He could be a really

442
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 8: good NBA player. A team's gonna get real lucky because

443
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Speaker 8: they'll be at the bottom of the first round of

444
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Speaker 8: the NBA draft.

445
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Speaker 5: Well, how do you feel about I think what should

446
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 5: be the final could be Arizona and Michigan. How do

447
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 5: you feel about that being your final four matchup instead?

448
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Speaker 5: Is that pot?

449
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Speaker 8: I think they have to play Michigan on Saturday, don't they?

450
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Speaker 5: Is that the semi final four?

451
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

452
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the That's the semi finals, so Michigan.

453
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Speaker 5: That was my point, like, you think that would be

454
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Speaker 5: the final, but you've got to actually get through that

455
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Speaker 5: to make it to either Duke or.

456
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Speaker 3: Yeah, let me actually let me jump in on that

457
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 3: real quick, Arnie, because I was telling j Mart, I

458
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Speaker 3: don't know if you had a strong opinion on this

459
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Speaker 3: leading into selection Sunday, but everybody kind of just handed

460
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Speaker 3: Duke the number one overall seed. And I do remember

461
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 3: Arizona fans once you won the Big twelve tournament kind

462
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 3: of making a not a stink, but a conversation of

463
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Speaker 3: why are we not in conversation for the number one

464
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Speaker 3: overall seed. At the time, I didn't really think much

465
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Speaker 3: of it. But now, to j Mart's point, instead of

466
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Speaker 3: getting the pathway where you'll face Illinois, a three seed,

467
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 3: you could face probably to Jay Mart's point, I think

468
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: the other best team in the country in Michigan next

469
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Speaker 3: Saturday night.

470
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Speaker 8: Go, I guess when you get to the final four.

471
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Speaker 8: I haven't given that much thought. I'm like, well, once

472
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Speaker 8: you get there, I just assumed it was gonna be

473
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Speaker 8: three number one seeds anyway, with Duke Arizona Michigan at Torres. Okay,

474
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Speaker 8: that's okay, you know, so two number one seeds are

475
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Speaker 8: gonna have to play anyway, to be honest with.

476
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Speaker 5: You, So we'll to get rid of the riff raft tomorrow.

477
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Speaker 8: Yeah, so yeah, we'll see. We'll see Michigan actually goes

478
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Speaker 8: ahead and against the victory, I'm okay with it. I

479
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 8: you know, if we would have we should have probably

480
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Speaker 8: been the number one seed overall played in the harder conference,

481
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Speaker 8: but I didn't make a big stink about it when

482
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Speaker 8: when the selection committee came.

483
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Speaker 5: Out with it.

484
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Speaker 3: Arizona wins the second game of the Elite eight tonight,

485
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Speaker 3: seventy nine sixty four. Arnie's Arizona math is correct. They

486
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Speaker 3: outscore Perdue by twenty two points in the second half.

487
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Speaker 3: There you go, or any last thoughts any by the way,

488
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Speaker 3: you think you're gonna go out to Indy, I mean

489
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Speaker 3: twenty nine year anniversary ninety seven, I know you were there,

490
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 3: ponytail swaying.

491
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Speaker 5: In the way.

492
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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I was just thinking about it. You know,

493
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Speaker 8: some of my fraterny brothers like we should go out there,

494
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Speaker 8: We should go to Indy. My fraternity brother, Resin has

495
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:40,959
Speaker 8: his kid, actually kid goes to school out in Indiana.

496
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Speaker 4: So at the frat house, you got to, you know,

497
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 4: like maybe.

498
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Speaker 8: We should go out there and check it out out.

499
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Speaker 8: So we'll see what happens. We'll think about it this week.

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Speaker 9: His frat bro Resin reg and Resin, yeah, well keg

501
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 9: already yet was already texting me and going crazy, so

502
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 9: he feels good.

503
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Speaker 8: And yeah, I got a text chain of about like

504
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 8: twelve or thirteen guys just all going crazy on the

505
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 8: on the phone right now.

506
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Speaker 3: Really quick. By the way, Arnie Spanning, our Fox Sports

507
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: radio host, you hear him Sunday night with Chris Plank

508
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: recapping a Yukon win over Duke tomorrow night, So that'll

509
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: be fun.

510
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Speaker 4: Uh real quick?

511
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Speaker 5: Uh?

512
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Speaker 4: What was your frat nickname? Have we discussed?

513
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 10: This?

514
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 5: Is it made for a that's that same question. I

515
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 5: want to say we have, but I can't remember it was.

516
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 8: It was Spiggy. Spiggy was my nickname in college.

517
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 3: So wow, it sounds like a guy who got his

518
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 3: head dumped in the toilet.

519
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 8: An awful lot.

520
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 3: All right, Jamar, anything else for our resident Arizona fan

521
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 3: before we let him go?

522
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Speaker 5: No, I just want to we can allow him to

523
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Speaker 5: go celebrate.

524
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Speaker 8: I'm surprised you didn't ask me, Torres, let's do it

525
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Speaker 8: if I'm gonna have the same coach next year.

526
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Speaker 5: To be honest, you know, I didn't want. I wondered,

527
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 5: I was I was gonna. I was gonna try to

528
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Speaker 5: leave the Carolina out of it.

529
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Speaker 8: But yeah, well, I you know I do think you

530
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Speaker 8: know he remember this is a guy that spent twenty

531
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Speaker 8: years as an assistant up in Gonzaga. I think he's

532
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 8: very loyal. I think he loves Tucsa. He does have

533
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 8: adult kids, and I guess he has a connection to Carolina.

534
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 8: I think what it's all said and done, and look,

535
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Speaker 8: I don't know about the whole Nil deal. I guess

536
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 8: Arizona actually is doing a little better than I thought.

537
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 3: You and Resin gotta start donating, man, Yeah, exactly. But

538
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 3: I think what it's said and done, he will stay there.

539
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 3: He's really built something fantastic. He does have a I

540
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 3: think one or two guys coming in next year already

541
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: towards You would know better than I do.

542
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 8: One of them is like a top five player. Yes, Oh,

543
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 8: they just keep coming in and uh. And I actually

544
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 8: think maybe Mo Krevos comes back and we'll see what happens.

545
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 8: But I think he'll come back, and we love to

546
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 8: keep him, There's no doubt about that.

547
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Speaker 3: This is what I want. I want Arizona to win

548
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,959
Speaker 3: the national championship if it's not Yukon, and I just

549
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 3: want a big publishers clearing house checks signed from resid

550
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: to the Arizona Nil Fund, and to keep Tommy Lloyd. Uh.

551
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 3: Just my personal opinion. I don't think he's going anywhere either,

552
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 3: And I think the other thing too, Arnie that works

553
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: in your favor is like just keep winning.

554
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 4: Like at some point they're.

555
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 3: Gonna have to move off of him because he's not

556
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: gonna be available.

557
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 5: You know.

558
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 3: The for people who don't follow the college basketball calendar,

559
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: the portal opens the day after the NCAA tournament this year,

560
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: so right, they have a little bit more time to

561
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 3: make a higher than when the portal has opened earlier.

562
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: But you can't wait until Monday night to start, you know, negotiations.

563
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 3: When the portal opens, you know, a couple hours after that,

564
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: confetti falls in Indianapolis. So so keep.

565
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 5: Tj Osenberger is just sitting there ready.

566
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Speaker 8: Man, Well, you know, I like him. I don't think

567
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 8: he's top on their list either.

568
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Speaker 5: I don't. I don't either, But I think he's a

569
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Speaker 5: good coach.

570
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think Donovan is, but I'm not sure he

571
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 8: wants the job, to be honest with you, I'd never

572
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 8: thought you should have been fired to begin with. Obviously

573
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Speaker 8: they don't have a plan B. But they may have

574
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Speaker 8: to go with somebody who's young that's gonna be there

575
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 8: a while. So I'm young and up in comer so

576
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 8: I'm they may have to go to a plan B there.

577
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Speaker 3: I will tell you, as somebody who had Iowa State

578
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 3: in every Survivor pool alive, I'm very out on tj

579
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 3: Otzilberger right now.

580
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 8: But well, they had that major injuries, so Mick Jefferson

581
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 8: makes a lot of not time.

582
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Speaker 4: I will tell you. I told Deutsch this last night.

583
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 3: I saw him as like they could have played that

584
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: and it's all the credit to Tennessee and maybe Jmart

585
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: will preview that game later, but like they could have

586
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 3: played that game one hundred times and Iowa State could

587
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: not have played worse than they did in that game.

588
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: And part of it is credit to Tennessee, but part

589
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 3: of it was out rebounded by twenty plus whatever seventeen miss.

590
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: I think they had missed like eleven free throws too,

591
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: but neither here nor there. I will say this, Arnie,

592
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: I think your coach is not going anywhere other than

593
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Speaker 3: to Indianapolis.

594
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 8: Yes, and we'll let you go.

595
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Speaker 3: So what is on the Arnie Spaniards celebration tonight? What

596
00:28:59,040 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: are you pulling out of the cab?

597
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 8: Well, well, we got a new dog tonight, so I

598
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 8: got Yeah, we picked up a new dog today. It's

599
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 8: called me a fortune. You don't want to know how

600
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 8: much it's caused.

601
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 4: CoA you name him coch Rt Dog.

602
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, Saint Bernard. No, it's a little one of

603
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 8: those cockapoo dogs. No way, yeah, cockapoo.

604
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 5: We just say a brown one.

605
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, it is a brown I had a picture of it.

606
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 8: I put it on on Twitter, so check it out out.

607
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 8: But yeah, no, it's uh. I'm dealing with that right now.

608
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 8: But it feels good. I'll rewatch the game like a

609
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 8: hundred times before I go to bed, that's for sure.

610
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 4: Well you deserve it, my man.

611
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 3: In all seriousness, you know, we've had a lot of

612
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: fun at your expense in this time slot, with some

613
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: interesting Arizona losses.

614
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 4: To say the least.

615
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: They outscore Perdue by twenty two points in the second half,

616
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: headed to the first Final four since one, Arnie, I

617
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: will be in Indy.

618
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 4: I hope to see you and resin there. We'll see

619
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Speaker 4: if it ends up happening.

620
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 8: But you working next weekend. You're not working next weekend.

621
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say you might get a call, but

622
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: it's nothing's official yet.

623
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 4: But I will be an Indian.

624
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: I think with the time stuff, I probably will not

625
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: be able to do this show. So look at you, man, Well.

626
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Speaker 5: I mean we've done the Final four show, Arnie, I

627
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 5: think the last two years.

628
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, but now Arizona's in it. Man, come on, let's go.

629
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 5: Look man, Easter is Sunday. I'm gonna be in a

630
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 5: pulpit like on Friday preaching and on Sunday morning preaching.

631
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 5: So it's smack dad right in my weekend too.

632
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 8: You got a busy weekend, that's for sure, no doubt.

633
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 4: Awesome, Well, Arnie, thank you for the time. We'll be listening.

634
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: You can hear him Arnie Spanier eleven PM this same

635
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: time slot on Sunday with Chris Blank. Like I said,

636
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: there's going to be plenty for Arnie Spanier to talk

637
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 3: about two Elite eight games on Sunday, and of course

638
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: Arizona and Illinois getting the wins today.

639
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 4: Arnie, we gotta let you go.

640
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 8: Appreciate you guys. Take care.

641
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 4: That is Arnie Spaniel.

642
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: You'll hear him tomorrow night, Sunday night, eleven pm Eastern.

643
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: Maybe resident can call, maybe Resdin can call in.

644
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what though. Let's get it over to

645
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 4: the news desk. Steve Desager.

646
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if you have any updates on how

647
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: Resin is celebrating, but get us know how celebrates.

648
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: I do have other updates. First off, he's got to

649
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: name the little dog Tommy.

650
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 4: That's what I said. Yeah, fit for the coach.

651
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 3: That's a great dog name too.

652
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: And I looked up currently final four tickets for Indy

653
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Speaker 2: next Saturday night for upper level are starting at about

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Speaker 2: six hundred dollars each. And he mentioned Bradenbury's freshman guard

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Speaker 2: freshman from southern California and that early game in La

656
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Speaker 2: at UCLA. He was one of nine shooting, but Arizona

657
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: was the better team down the stretch there and won

658
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Speaker 2: a close game, and then went straight to Connecticut and

659
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Speaker 2: won a close game. You mentioned the opening win for

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Speaker 2: the Wildcats in Vegas against Florida. They had played Alabama

661
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Speaker 2: and beat him by twenty one, and once they got

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Speaker 2: into the meet at the conference schedule late in January,

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Speaker 2: I won't say it was all wins, but it seem

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Speaker 2: like win after win.

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Speaker 3: And I know based on the tournament, you would say

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Speaker 3: the Big Ten has been the best conference in college basketball.

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Speaker 3: The Big Twelve was such a meat grinder and to

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Speaker 3: your point to Segert, the only loss is Kansas by

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Speaker 3: three on the road Texas Tech in overtime when they

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Speaker 3: were at full strength before they got banged up. It's

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Speaker 3: been an incredible run for them, it really had.

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Speaker 2: And playing BYU a couple of times, and beating BYU

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Speaker 2: a couple of times, and got a rematch against Kansas

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Speaker 2: and beat them and got Houston in. You know, on

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Speaker 2: and on and on we could. It's we said this

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Speaker 2: weeks ago. The most impressed and we're not the only

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Speaker 2: ones to say this. The most impressive teams our eyes

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Speaker 2: saw during the season were Arizona, Duke, and Michigan. And

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Speaker 2: so I thought before the tournament, if at least two

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Speaker 2: of those three don't make the final four, you know

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Speaker 2: we've got news. The news is the Arizona Wildcats are

682
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Speaker 2: headed to the Final Four for the first time in

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Speaker 2: twenty five years. Arizona won the West Region over Purdue

684
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Speaker 2: in a comeback seventy nine sixty four. Illinois won the

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Speaker 2: South Region against Iowa seventy one to fifty nine. Could

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Speaker 2: be Alina against Duke, but you know they are playing

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Speaker 2: I don't know, some team from Connecticut. I'm not sure,

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00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: but that's taking place tomorrow. People, busy day for Ross

689
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Speaker 2: Huskies fans. We've got a women's lead eight game too.

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Speaker 2: You know, undefeated number one Yukon women are in a

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Speaker 2: regional final on Sunday against Notre Dame.

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Speaker 5: Meanwhile, Notre Dame said they're not going to be afraid either.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's kind of an admission. At the same time, yes,

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Speaker 2: it is. We played them before and just we couldn't

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Speaker 2: stand who we were up against. We lost before we

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Speaker 2: got out of the locker room. It's essentially what they

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Speaker 2: seem to be saying. If I was reading between the lines, well,

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Speaker 2: we can update. The game at Dodger Stadium has just ended.

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Speaker 2: They have a live trumpet player last night and tonight

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Speaker 2: to usher in the appearance of the new closer, Tommy

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Speaker 2: Trumpet exactly. Edwin Diaz has just picked up the save

702
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: three to two over Arizona because Will Smith hit a

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Speaker 2: two run homer for the lead in the bottom of

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Speaker 2: the eighth. On Will smith Bobblehead night, they were celebrating

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Speaker 2: his World Series extra inning home run in Game seven

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Speaker 2: at Toronto, and on his night, he helps the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: to a three to two win. Atlanta hit a grand

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Speaker 2: slam bottom of the ninth to win six to two

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Speaker 2: over Kansas City with six in the ninth. The Yankees

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Speaker 2: won three to one at San Francisco. Aaron Judges solo

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Speaker 2: Homer Mets with a three run homer in the eleventh,

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Speaker 2: beat Pittsburgh four to two, and the late game at

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Speaker 2: Seattle has the Mariners tied with Cleveland two to two.

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Speaker 2: Top of the seventh.

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Speaker 4: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve to Saga.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday soon to be Sunday

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Speaker 3: air towards Jayson Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: Radio Studios. We'll come back when we do. Another team

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Speaker 3: has punched their ticket, the Illinois fighting a lion n I,

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Speaker 3: first time for them since so five. We'll discuss that.

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Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

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Speaker 6: listen live.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Aer Torris, Jason Martin.

726
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: We are broadcasting from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Two

727
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Speaker 3: teams headed to the final four. Arizona just took care

728
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Speaker 3: of business in the late game, outscoring per Due by

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Speaker 3: twenty two points in the second half. Just saw Matt

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Speaker 3: Painter on the broadcast. I'm actually kind of curious to

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Speaker 3: what he has to say. I you know, I actually

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Speaker 3: respect him. You know, when they lost to you kind

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Speaker 3: a few yearsgo in the championship game, he had great

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Speaker 3: things to say about, you know, how great the program

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Speaker 3: is and they just weren't as good. And I have

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Speaker 3: a feeling he is going to be very praiseworthy of Arizona,

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Speaker 3: justifiably so after the win.

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Speaker 5: Wasn't that we had him on. It wasn't that game, obviously, No,

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Speaker 5: he was the Saturday game. It was during this we

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Speaker 5: were talking to him about Zach Edy and that whole deal.

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Speaker 5: Can I tell you he was He was very opinionated

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Speaker 5: held at the same time like just it's very easy

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Speaker 5: to like, let's just say that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say this is like, so was watching the

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Speaker 3: Purdue Texas game with my with my wife and you know,

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Speaker 3: she watches basketball, but not very closely. And I will say,

747
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 3: like they have mastered the I don't know how to

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Speaker 3: say it, like without sounding disparaging, but like there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of you know, I mean, listen, last the tip

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00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: in against Texas was a shove in the back, but

751
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Speaker 3: like somehow they always get away with it. So like,

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Speaker 3: imagine that but with a dude who's seven foot four

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Speaker 3: two and eighty pounds and so.

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Speaker 5: Right and so.

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Speaker 3: But they are well coached and you know, they have

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Speaker 3: basically what I told her was like they have found

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Speaker 3: a way to play in this way and quote unquote,

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Speaker 3: you know, I hate to use this word to get

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00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 3: away with it because it makes it sound bad, but

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Speaker 3: you know, to essentially get away with it. And so

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Speaker 3: Perdue is out in the Elite eight A Veteran Corps.

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Speaker 3: A lot of those guys were part of that twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four national runner up team. I see Braden Smith

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Speaker 3: on the podium right now on ESPN, so will monitor

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Speaker 3: any interesting sound.

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Speaker 4: Jmart.

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Speaker 3: Illinois beats Iowa in the early game seventy one fifty nine.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you have any amazing takeaways on

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Speaker 3: that one. I will tell you, you know, Illinois listen.

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Speaker 3: I so I said this the other day, like I

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Speaker 3: try to watch as much as I can, and I

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Speaker 3: try to be as informed as I can. Illinois is

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Speaker 3: actually just much better than I thought they were.

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Speaker 4: The thing with them is they're huge.

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Speaker 3: They I believe the status they're the tallest team on

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Speaker 3: average in college basketball. And if you watch the game

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Speaker 3: today and I know you did, they just overwhelmed Iowa

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Speaker 3: like they have against everybody including Houston in this tournament

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Speaker 3: so far. Not to say that they're gonna win it

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Speaker 3: or anything, but they were just a team I did

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Speaker 3: not see this run coming. And I think it was

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Speaker 3: really around this time last week when they beat VCU

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Speaker 3: that I said, this team's better than I thought. Illinois

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Speaker 3: headed to its first Final four since two thousand and.

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Speaker 5: Five, and look, Iowa played a really good first half

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Speaker 5: and then just eventually your point just kind of took

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Speaker 5: center stage in that second half, and I would just

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Speaker 5: didn't have an answer when they weren't making their outside

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Speaker 5: shots at the same clip, you just saw the discrepancy

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Speaker 5: between those two basketball teams. So yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 5: think that Illinois has already kind of gone further than

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Speaker 5: most expected. They Yeah, they're they're they're dangerous. They're dangerous

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Speaker 5: because they do possess that size advantage that's going to

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Speaker 5: be able to match up. Let's say, let's say it

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Speaker 5: is Duke or at yukon either one that's gonna be

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Speaker 5: a difficult matchup either way. Like that's not going to

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Speaker 5: be a cake walk by any stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Illinois too, by the way, obviously it goes without saying,

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Speaker 3: but went very heavy on the European players this offseason.

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Speaker 3: And I just bring it up because you and I

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Speaker 3: have talked a lot about like the quality of college

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Speaker 3: basketball improving with nil and I was thinking about this

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Speaker 3: is like I think we talk you and I in

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Speaker 3: the past have talked more about maybe NBA caliber players

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Speaker 3: that are in college basketball staying in college basketball. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I think like Illinois, like you look at their roster.

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Speaker 3: I'm just looking at the box score from today. Three

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Speaker 3: players who played professionally overseas and there's a debate whether

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Speaker 3: you know, those guys should be eligible or not. But

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Speaker 3: given the rules, they are. You know, the Mirkovic kid,

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Speaker 3: some people are saying is like a long term NBA prospect,

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Speaker 3: But nine points, twelve rebounds in that game. And I

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Speaker 3: think this is just another everybody's doing it differently, But

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Speaker 3: the quality of player in college basketball is better. And

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Speaker 3: I don't know that it's like a topic that we

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Speaker 3: have to spend, you know, twenty minutes talking about. But

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Speaker 3: Illinois went very heavy on the European market and just

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Speaker 3: another way to get players into college basketball. And it

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Speaker 3: shows again. First Final four since two thousand and five.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, just impressive for them, and see a

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Speaker 5: little bit of new blood. We're not getting the all chalk,

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Speaker 5: but we're getting some really good basketball teams all the

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Speaker 5: way through. I expect that's exactly where we're gonna get

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Speaker 5: tomorrow either way in that game between one and two,

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Speaker 5: and then yeah, Tennessee might try to make that interesting

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Speaker 5: against Michigan. I don't particularly believe that one's gonna be

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Speaker 5: all that close.

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Speaker 3: Well, we have two hours left to preview everything. Air

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Speaker 3: towards Jason Martin. We are on until two a m.

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Speaker 3: Eastern time, But when we come back, we'll switch gears

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Speaker 3: away from college oops lit but maybe we talk a

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Speaker 3: little bit more college hoops. But we do have to

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Speaker 3: talk some other news and notes from the world of sports,

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Speaker 3: NBA Draft lottery shakeup. Oh, by the way, we do

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Speaker 3: have to talk the very serious Tiger Woods story as well.

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Speaker 3: Air towards Jason Martin. Busy Saturday night, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in everybody hour two tours and Martin. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: We are broadcasting live. Yes, we are live midnight Eastern

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio Studios. Steve de Sager just told you

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Speaker 3: two tickets have been punched to the Final four. Illinois

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Speaker 3: first Final four trips since two two thousand and five.

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Speaker 3: As they beat Iowa in the Elite Eight in the

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Speaker 3: early game in the South Regional and in the West

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Speaker 3: Arizona trailed by seven at the half, outscore per due

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Speaker 3: by twenty two points after the break. They are headed

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Speaker 3: to their first Final four since two thousand and one.

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Speaker 3: On Sunday, we will have Tennessee against Michigan. Tennessee, of course,

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Speaker 3: has never been to a Final four. Michigan, I believe

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Speaker 3: the last time they were there was twenty eighteen and

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Speaker 3: Yukon and Duke in the late one. Jaymart want to

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Speaker 3: switch gears to a few topics outside of college hoops.

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Speaker 3: Will we will revisit college hoops in just a little bit.

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Speaker 3: By the way, if you have any college hoops questions, whatever,

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00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: you can always tweet us Fox Sports Radio, Aaron Underscore, Torres,

855
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: Jmart Radio. Let us know what you think about the

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00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: Final four, what is set, what is.

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Speaker 4: Yet to come?

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Speaker 3: On Sunday and we will continue that conversation with that said,

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Speaker 3: so you know a couple couple non college hoops topics,

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Speaker 3: and I did not tease this before the break, but

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Speaker 3: it is something that you and I, you know, have

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Speaker 3: certainly talked about a lot.

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Speaker 4: So you and I love college football.

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Speaker 3: Were obviously the college football postgame show during the season,

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Speaker 3: and we went through the entire ebbs and flows of

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Speaker 3: the Alabama football season. Alabama, of course, you know, they

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Speaker 3: lost to Florida State, then they had eight straight weeks

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Speaker 3: where they were awesome, kind of struggle down the stretch whatever.

869
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: But as we got closer to the NFL Draft season,

870
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting because you know, you and

871
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 3: I know the landscape, and I noticed this around NFL

872
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 3: kind of like free agency season is it's this weird

873
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 3: thing of all of these teams need qbs, but there

874
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 3: weren't really any in free agency. Do you trust to

875
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 3: do you trust Kyler Murray? Blah blah blah blah blah. Well,

876
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: the next obviously logical step was the NFL Draft, where

877
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 3: I think, me, you, and anybody who loves this basically said, okay,

878
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 3: it is Fernando Mendoza and then a huge gap to

879
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: QB two. Well, some don't necessarily agree with that because

880
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: earlier this week, dan Orlovsky on social Well, he's not

881
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: on social media. It was it was, you know, I

882
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 3: think I don't know if the take originated on social

883
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: media or ones on.

884
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 5: TV or no, it was. I think it was on ESPN.

885
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 5: But I also think that he may have done some

886
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 5: kind of like Instagram post some kind of video or

887
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 5: something like that over the weekend and then had to

888
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 5: come address it on TV the next week. Something like that.

889
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what.

890
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: Brandon Deutsch says that he has the original take, which

891
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 3: then of course was set on McAfee and every other

892
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: TV outlet. But Brandon Deutsch play us the original Dan

893
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 3: Orlovsky ty Simpson take.

894
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 11: Ty Simpson has been a fascinating person in this draft,

895
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 11: going back to the middle part of the season where

896
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 11: he seemed to be trending towards QB one, and then

897
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 11: the season went on and there became no question that

898
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 11: Fernando Mendoza is going to be the first quarterback taken

899
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 11: in this draft. Certainly that is at least a conventional wisdom,

900
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 11: and ty Simpson could fall anywhere in the first round.

901
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: You have looked at the tapes, what are you seeing?

902
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 10: I think Ty Simpson is QB one. I think ty

903
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 10: Simpson is the best quarterback in this class.

904
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: I think when you.

905
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 10: Look at the body of work and what was asked

906
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 10: of these two quarterbacks, you have to start with the

907
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 10: question who needed to do more to carry their football

908
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 10: team to play well? Ty Simpson. And it's not close

909
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 10: between those two quarterbacks. Who took more games over throughout

910
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 10: the course of the season ty Simpson, It's.

911
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 8: Not even close.

912
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 10: And if we're asking, like, okay, we're trying to see

913
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 10: what you are as a player in college and what

914
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 10: you're going to be asked to do in the NFL,

915
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 10: and what translates, I start with what do you do

916
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 10: in moments of panic with the football? Because that's really

917
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 10: what separates good degree. I would tell you that ty

918
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 10: Simpson is more consistent.

919
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: In that regard.

920
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 4: There's not a ton of moments.

921
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: Wait went on and on, but I wanted to cut

922
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: it off there, Jay Bart, I hear you sighing in

923
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: the background, So I'm just gonna go ahead and give

924
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 3: you the floor here for half a second.

925
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 5: So I remember now the original take. I think it

926
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 5: was like a comment on social media or something. I

927
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 5: read the article about it, and it asserted that he

928
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 5: had watched like eight games of the season and Ty

929
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 5: Simpson was better than Fernando Mendoza, and like that then

930
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 5: became the take. And the problem with that is the

931
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 5: season didn't end in Week eight, Like more football was

932
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 5: then played, Dan over the next five weeks, and then

933
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 5: there was a conference championship and then there was a

934
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 5: College Football Playoff, like there were more games that were

935
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 5: left to happen after that early stretch. That would be

936
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 5: the equivalent of giving Baker Mayfield the MVP last year,

937
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 5: because around Week seven people were like, Baker Mayfield might

938
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 5: be the MVP, and then by the end of the

939
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 5: year you had dudes on our airwaves saying, yeah, Tampa

940
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 5: Bay should probably find a different quarterback. So like things

941
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 5: can change as more games are played. But for whatever reason,

942
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 5: and perhaps we're about to go full X Files on

943
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 5: this thing, but for whatever reason, Dan Orlowski is just

944
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 5: sticking right by that original take, as if the rest

945
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 5: of the season didn't play out the way it did. Like, yes,

946
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 5: I think we can all agree that Fernando Mendoza had

947
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 5: more talent around him and they had a better team

948
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 5: than did Ty Simpson. That's not the end of the

949
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 5: discussion though, like that that can't be your only determining factor,

950
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 5: because I hate to say this because it's gonna sound

951
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 5: ridiculous because I said the opposite at the time. But

952
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 5: you remember how much credit we gave Bryce Young sure

953
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 5: in his final year especially, and we gave Caleb Williams

954
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 5: that too, And then they went into the league and like,

955
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 5: Bryce is starting to come around a bit, and calebse

956
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 5: obviously turned it around, but it took a minute and

957
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 5: it was just like, well, what would they be without

958
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 5: these guys. That's an argument that's out there quite a bit.

959
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 5: But just because you have talent or don't have talent,

960
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 5: that can't that's not the only factor. Like there are

961
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 5: other things that go into this. But again, this take

962
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 5: came after I don't know if it's week eight or

963
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 5: week seven, whichever one it was, that was what he

964
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 5: based all of this opinion on, at which point I

965
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 5: lost all respect for the opinion.

966
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 4: So two things.

967
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: We're gonna get to Deutsch here in a second with

968
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 3: exactly what you said. The X Files thing really quickly.

969
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 3: I love the notion that oh like was more put

970
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 3: on his plate. Yes, let's also acknowledge Bernana Mendoza's final

971
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: four games of the season. He beat in order, Ohio

972
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 3: State on a neutral field, Alabama on a neutral field,

973
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 3: Oregon on a neutral field, Miami ont of neutral field. Like,

974
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: if you want to argue more was put on ty

975
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 3: Simpson's plate. Okay, it's not as though they weren't beating

976
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: real teams late in the season, right, And so I

977
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 3: will say this. There has been a lot of talk.

978
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 3: Is this a real take? Was it made up to

979
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: just create content for ESPN? There is an interesting theory

980
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: on this. So Mary, give us some music and we

981
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: will bring in Brandon Deutsch.

982
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

983
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 12: So this was brought up on X by a lot

984
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 12: of people. But Dan Orlovsky and ty Simpson are both

985
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 12: repped by CIA, so you know, that's one of those things.

986
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 12: And we've seen it before. It's happened a lot where

987
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 12: there's been some NBA analysts and there's a player that's

988
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 12: repped by the same agency that they're pumping up for

989
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 12: MVP or they're pumping up for certain awards.

990
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: It's happened before. We're still waiting for the first negative

991
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 3: headline on any Clutch client today.

992
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 12: By the way, there has been some Clutch propaganda in

993
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 12: the past as well. So it makes you think stan

994
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 12: Rolovsky saying this to make Ty Simpson more money, and

995
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 12: you know, inevitably if he gets drafted higher, he will

996
00:48:58,719 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 12: make more money.

997
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 3: So and does that help him? Okay, so I'm gonna

998
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 3: go controversial here. I just think it's a mediocre take.

999
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 3: I understand why people would put two and two together,

1000
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: and I'm not like there are times that I see

1001
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 3: stuff on the Internet that I'm like, that's the dumbest

1002
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 3: thing I've ever seen. This, to me is not one

1003
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 3: of those things. I actually understand how very easily people

1004
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 3: put two and two together. But I would counter by saying,

1005
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: I just think it's a bad take, and I think

1006
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 3: it stems from to j Mart's point, he's making the

1007
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 3: take based on the first two thirds of the season when.

1008
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 4: There was another two thirds left.

1009
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, like, if you want to argue,

1010
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 3: first of all, I am not gonna blame Fernando Mendoza

1011
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 3: because he has good teammates. But then the counter to

1012
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 3: it is if you're arguing, well, Ty Simpson had, you know,

1013
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 3: more to overcome because his team wasn't as talented, Well, okay,

1014
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 3: that's fine, but.

1015
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 5: My counter overcome it.

1016
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 4: That's exactly what I was gonna say. That's exactly what

1017
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 4: I was gonna say.

1018
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 3: So okay, So November eighth, Alabama sits at eight and one.

1019
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 4: They finished the year eleven and four.

1020
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: I don't have that Arnie Spaniard Arizona degree to do

1021
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 3: the math, but if my math is correct, yeah, I

1022
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 3: don't know if he does either. That's three and three

1023
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: down the stretch. This is what Alabama did after beating

1024
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: LSU with an interim head coach on November eighth, lost

1025
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 3: to Oklahoma, beat Eastern Illinois, beat Auburn, who had already

1026
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 3: fired their coach barely barely good call, by one score

1027
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: Ty Simpson, by the way, one hundred and twenty two

1028
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: yards passing, just saying, against a team that finished five

1029
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 3: and seven and fired their coach. Admittedly, the defense was

1030
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 3: pretty good. Loose to get destroyed by Georgia. Beat Oklahoma

1031
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 3: in the playoff. That was clearly the best game that

1032
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: he played after November first, and then obviously got destroyed

1033
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 3: by Alabama or Indiana excuse me, in the Rose Bowl.

1034
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 3: So three and three in his final six. By the way,

1035
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 3: two of his final four wins on the season were

1036
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 3: against teams with interim coaches. A third win was against

1037
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 3: Eastern Illinois. So yes, if you make the argument through

1038
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 3: November first, there is a compelling argument.

1039
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 4: The problem is, you know, it's like they say, you know.

1040
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 3: The team that's that's great through three quarters in the

1041
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 3: NBA that can't close out games, Well, guess what, it's

1042
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 3: a four quarter sport. Or you know that can't close

1043
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: out games in the NFL, it's a four quarter sport.

1044
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: Like it's just again, I I understand the the argument

1045
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 3: of you know, is he trying to help his guy

1046
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: or a guy you know that has a combin agent whatever.

1047
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 3: I just think it's a bad take, and I will say,

1048
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 3: I listen, I don't know this. No, only dani or

1049
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 3: Lowsky knows. It did feel like a take that was

1050
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 3: intended to generate two to three days worth of content

1051
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: in the middle a little the slow weeks. So go ahead,

1052
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 3: take take that where you want, Jamark, So I want

1053
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: this to be true.

1054
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 5: I don't think that it is, like I think what

1055
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 5: you're saying is one hundred percent right. I couldn't agree more.

1056
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 5: I don't think that this is a CIA psyop, but

1057
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 5: I do think this is an ESPN Content Siop. Sure,

1058
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 5: I do think that this is you need to go

1059
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 5: say this thing, or I'm gonna say this thing, because

1060
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 5: then everybody on this network's going to be talking about

1061
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:30,959
Speaker 5: what I said for the next couple of days.

1062
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 4: And we're talking about it now.

1063
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely did work. But I think that I do

1064
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 5: not think that there is a grand conspiracy for Dan

1065
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 5: Orlovsky to go on and say this thing about Ty

1066
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 5: Simpson and that there's some kind of backroom deal. I

1067
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 5: so badly want to believe that it's true because I

1068
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 5: live for stuff like this, Like if this turned out

1069
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 5: to be a conspiracy, I would watch like fifteen long

1070
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 5: form documentaries on YouTube about it. I'd be so excited

1071
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 5: to try and go down that rabbit hole. But I

1072
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 5: just can't get there. I just think I think dan

1073
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 5: Orlovsky was honest in what he said. I also think

1074
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 5: it's dumb because again, we were even saying at mid

1075
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 5: season that Ty was looking really good, right, like, we

1076
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 5: will admit that. But by the end of the season,

1077
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 5: Ty wasn't looking quite as good, and so we had

1078
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 5: a more tape on him. Defense has got to see him,

1079
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 5: and just Alabama started crumbling and Ty Simpson kind of

1080
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 5: crumbled right along with him, to the point where we

1081
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 5: were thinking ty Simpson's gonna transfer to play college next

1082
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 5: year and instead goes to the pros. And now I

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00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 5: think ty Simpson's QB went. I do not. I don't

1084
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 5: think dan Orlovsky does think that. Now. I think he

1085
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 5: thought that based on the tape that he originally saw,

1086
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 5: and he just is not gonna come out and then

1087
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 5: say so I watched the rest of the season, and yeah,

1088
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 5: I get that. Fernando Mendez is on a completely different level. Hey, look,

1089
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 5: he's gonna have the opportunity to say this. Here's the

1090
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 5: other thing, because you're not generally held accountable for takes.

1091
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 3: Like this good call.

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00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 5: Very rarely is a take that you have gonna be

1093
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 5: something that you can't live down. In this industry, you

1094
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 5: could say some really just butt stupid stuff and you

1095
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 5: can get away with it. But in this case, like

1096
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 5: if dan Orlowski says this and it turns out to

1097
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 5: be true, he can have a parade for himself because

1098
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 5: he will make sure no one forgets this going forward

1099
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 5: because he becomes a calling card. And on the other side,

1100
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 5: people will just kind of forget about it because He's

1101
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 5: not going to go out there and continually repeat it

1102
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 5: and beat down people's door with it. If it turns

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00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 5: out not to be true, like four weeks into the season,

1104
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 5: He's not going to be trying to, you know, say

1105
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 5: these are not the droids you're looking for, and do

1106
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 5: some kind of mind trick to keep this thing alive.

1107
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 5: I don't think he will be stubborn too it if

1108
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 5: the evidence proves otherwise, inn the NFL. I just think that.

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00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 5: I think that right now he's just kind of gonna

1110
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 5: hang on to it because it doesn't do him any

1111
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 5: good to back off it.

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00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 3: You know. I'll tell you actually, a really funny story

1113
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: on that is that I vividly remember, and listen, we'll

1114
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 3: see how the take ages, but I vividly remember he

1115
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 3: before the would have been the twenty twenty four NFL draft,

1116
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 3: said he believed that based on the tape, that he

1117
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 3: thought Jayden Daniels should have been QB one over Caleb Williams.

1118
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 3: And that take actually was less crazy, because yes, Caleb

1119
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 3: Williams was kind of crowned, but Jadan Daniels did win

1120
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 3: the Heisman Trophy that year. But I only bring it

1121
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 3: up because and I'm not even criticizing him.

1122
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 4: We all do.

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00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 3: We're all guilty of this in this industry. Was he

1124
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 3: made sure to let everybody know that I had Jayden

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00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 3: Daniels above Caleb Williams on my big board during that

1126
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 3: rookie year when Jayden Daniels led the Commanders to the

1127
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 3: NFC Championship Game, I didn't hear him trumpet that take

1128
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 3: nearly as much this year, when Caleb Williams was awesome,

1129
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 3: and obviously Jaden Daniels, through no fault of his own,

1130
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 3: was banged up. But it's a great point, though, is

1131
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 3: that you know, if Ty Simpson is awesome, he gets

1132
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 3: to just run it back and run it back, and hey,

1133
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 3: bring up the tape from you know, March of twenty

1134
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 3: twenty six. And if it doesn't happen, you know, I

1135
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 3: don't I don't even know who's hosting first take right now.

1136
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 4: But whoever that young lady.

1137
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 3: Is is not gonna be like, hey, Dan, remember when

1138
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 3: you said this about Ty Simpson, And so I guess

1139
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 3: that's just the nature of the industry Fox Sports Radio.

1140
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 5: I think that's true. Look, it's it's fine, it is

1141
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 5: It is absolutely the nature of the industry. Again, I

1142
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 5: so bad. I hope they prove it as a conspiracy theory.

1143
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 5: It'd be the greatest thing for me. I would just

1144
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 5: I would just love to like go deep dive and

1145
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 5: try to find how this all went down and who

1146
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 5: was in on it and who ordered the code red

1147
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 5: like I would be so excited about it. I just

1148
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 5: I know it's not true. I just I hate that.

1149
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 5: The best timeline, though, would be this starting out to

1150
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 5: be true. I don't think I would ever stop talking

1151
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 5: about it.

1152
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio Air Towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

1153
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 3: the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Tell you what, Jamark, We'll

1154
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 3: come back. We'll hit on some other things that we mentioned,

1155
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: uh NBA Draft lottery, Adam Adam Silver's in his bag

1156
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 3: on this one. Let me say, of all the Adam

1157
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 3: Silver ones, this might be the worst. And we do

1158
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 3: have to discuss Tiger Witz as well.

1159
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: Eron, Torris, Jayson, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1160
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:27,440
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00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio Aeron Torris, Jason Martin broadcasting live. Yes,

1162
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,240
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1164
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,680
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1165
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,280
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1166
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,560
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1167
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00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,800
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1169
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,560
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1170
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 3: couple other topics to get to, which we will in

1171
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 3: just one moment. Before we do that, let's get it

1172
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 3: over to the news desk to desagre what is.

1173
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: Just about everything is final. The late ballgame in Seattle

1174
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 2: has been the bottom of the eighth inning, Cleveland now

1175
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: leading the Mariners three to two. As for the college

1176
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 2: hoops on the men's side, tournament continues with Arizona in

1177
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: a final four for the first time in twenty five years.

1178
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: The one seeds in the West took the regional final

1179
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 2: in San Jose tonight, beating Purdue in a comeback seventy

1180
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: nine sixty four. Three seed in the South region, Illinois

1181
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 2: advanced out of Houston, beating Iowa seventy one fifty nine.

1182
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: The Aliini are headed to the final four for the

1183
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 2: first time in over twenty years in the NBA's late

1184
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 2: game Utah Well, they've lost five in a row now

1185
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 2: never in this one at Phoenix Suns one thirty four,

1186
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: one to oh nine the final. Memphis ended a five

1187
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: game losing streak edge in Chicago won twenty five one

1188
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 2: twenty four. The Atlanta Hawks have won fifteen of their

1189
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 2: last seventeen games. Beat Sacramento tonight one twenty three to

1190
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 2: one thirteen Jalen Johnson twenty six points, tennisists Sacramento Kings

1191
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: on the road six and thirty one. This year, Detroit

1192
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: won at Minnesota one oh nine eighty seven. Minnesota's Anthony

1193
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: Edwards out again with the knee injury. Timberwolf shut thirty

1194
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 2: two percent from the floor. Spurs won their eighth in

1195
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 2: a row today a win at Milwaukee, won twenty seven

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00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: to ninety five. Janisantenekumpo of the Bucks missed a six

1197
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: straight game with the knee injury, and Milwaukee was officially

1198
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: eliminated from playoff consideration. The Spurs are just two games

1199
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 2: back of Oklahoma City for the number one overall seed.

1200
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: Stefan Castle with a triple double and Philadelphia got tyrase

1201
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: Maxi back on the court, returning after missing ten games

1202
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 2: with a finger injury, he had twenty six points in

1203
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: a close win at Charlotte one eighteen one fourteen. The

1204
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: Hornets had won five in a row for Philly twenty

1205
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: six points also for Paul George and twenty nine for

1206
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: Joel Embiid. The Lakers Luka Doncic is suspended for Monday's

1207
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 2: game after getting his sixteenth technical of the season. The

1208
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 2: NBA regular season ends on April twelfth. All teams play

1209
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: that day. There were fifteen NHL contests tonight, including a

1210
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 2: Winnipeg win at Colorado four to two, Montreal won at

1211
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 2: Nashville four to one, Buffalo wanted a shootout over Seattle

1212
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 2: three to two, and Carolina won five to two against

1213
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 2: New Jersey. To Major League Baseball, not only that late

1214
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: game in Seattle, but the late game in LA, which

1215
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 2: is a final went to the Dodgers, and yet another

1216
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: comeback three to two over Arizona on a two run

1217
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: homer bottom of the eighth by Will Smith, the save

1218
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: to Edwin Diaz. Freddie Freeman had three hits for LA,

1219
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: the rest of his team three for twenty five at

1220
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 2: the plate, but a win for the home team and

1221
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 2: in San Diego, the Padres got in the win column

1222
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 2: three nothing over Detroit, holding the Tiger offense to two

1223
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: for twenty nine at the plate with thirteen strikeouts. Most

1224
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: of the country saw on Fox TV tonight the Yankees

1225
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 2: win at San Francisco again three to one Aaron Judges

1226
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 2: solo homer. The Yankees had shut out the Giants in

1227
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 2: the first two games. In fact, Friday, the Giants offense

1228
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 2: had one hit one for twenty eight with thirteen strikeouts. Eventually,

1229
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: the string was the Giants had twenty straight scoreless innings

1230
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: to aren't the year. They lose three to one tonight,

1231
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 2: and we'll talk more about this in fifteen minutes. But

1232
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 2: Atlanta defeated Kansas City six to two with six runs

1233
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 2: in the bottom of the ninth game, winning Grand Slam

1234
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 2: Dominic Smith. The loss to closer Carlos System is extraanding

1235
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 2: wins for Texas and the Mets. Extraanding wins for Cincinnati,

1236
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 2: Toronto and Saint Louis, which beat Tampa Bay and ten

1237
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: today six to five. The Rays had scored four times

1238
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: in the top of the ninth to tie it, even

1239
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: a run in the tenth for the lead, and the

1240
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 2: Cardinals still took the game back to you.

1241
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Steve Sager, Fox Sports Radio, Fox

1242
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 3: Sports Saturday into Sunday air towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live

1243
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 3: from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. J mart Let's go

1244
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 3: ahead and talk our favorite topic, our buddy, Adam Silver.

1245
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So NBA tanking is the topic, dajore right now, now,

1246
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 3: I have said, and I'll spare it because we don't

1247
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 3: have a ton of time. I think among the NBA's

1248
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 3: biggest issues, tanking is no where near the top. I

1249
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 3: don't understand why it's such a big issue. And I

1250
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 3: will make a point to you that I made to

1251
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 3: Mike Harmon last night. Oklahoma City Thunder, Jalen Williams, Chad

1252
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 3: Holmgren drafted internally after the team stunk, Jalen Brown, Jason

1253
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 3: Tatum drafted internally by the Celtics after the team stunk,

1254
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 3: Victor Wimiyama, Steph Castle drafted by the team after the

1255
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 3: team stunk. But all of a sudden, we've decided that

1256
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 3: now it's an issue, bring it up. The NBA has

1257
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 3: presented three comprehensive anti taking concepts to its Board of Governors.

1258
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 3: According to Shams Chirania. I will try to get through

1259
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 3: all of it, but they are so confusing and complex

1260
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 3: that I might not be able to one eighteen teams

1261
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 3: in the draft lottery, seed seven through fifteen in each

1262
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 3: conference Flatin odds, which bottom ten teams have an eight

1263
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 3: percent chance they're remaining twenty percent odds distributed in decreasing

1264
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 3: order from eleventh or eighteen, and a lottery drawing for

1265
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 3: all eighteen picks. Got that good, Let's move on to

1266
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 3: proposition number two, twenty two teams in the lottery using

1267
01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 3: a two year record seed seven.

1268
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 4: Through fifteen, plus the four year playoff.

1269
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 3: The I could go on and on. There are three

1270
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 3: very idiotic proposals to change tanking, and it is the

1271
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 3: most adam silver thing ever. It is confusing, it is convoluted.

1272
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 3: It reminds me of the night that we were on

1273
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 3: air that they announced the quote unquote in season tournament

1274
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 3: that wasn't a tournament, and Steve di Segred has spent

1275
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 3: about twenty five minutes trying to explain it to us,

1276
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 3: but he couldn't because it never made sense. Then the

1277
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 3: tanking doesn't make sense. Now. There are easy solutions to

1278
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 3: tanking if you deem it an issue, but we have

1279
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 3: three proposals, all very confusing. Courtesy of Adam Silver. According

1280
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 3: to Shams Trani.

1281
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 5: Hey man, I don't get why it needs to be

1282
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 5: this way unless you want to make it so complex

1283
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,919
Speaker 5: that nobody can follow it so they don't ask too

1284
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 5: many questions about it, so that just the lay fan

1285
01:03:58,080 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 5: just has to kind of sit there and accept it

1286
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 5: and thinks that it's for the good, even if it

1287
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 5: doesn't make any logical sense or trying to wrap your

1288
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 5: brain around it just doesn't actually yield any results. Like

1289
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 5: your point about tanking when we talked about it a

1290
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago. You know, I don't know that

1291
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 5: you fully swayed me, but you definitely made me think

1292
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 5: about it a little bit more. And one thing that

1293
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 5: I have thought about since that point is, Okay, so

1294
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 5: we're gonna eliminate tanking so that you know, fans aren't

1295
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 5: getting non competitive games, but the teams still stink, Like

1296
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 5: the teams that are gonna be tanking in most cases

1297
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 5: are still really bad teams that are going absolutely nowhere.

1298
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 5: So you're getting the facade of competition, but those teams

1299
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 5: aren't going to be competing anyway, because they're not good

1300
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 5: enough to compete, They're not going to be able to

1301
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, Like it's not like the Washington

1302
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 5: Wizards are all of a sudden going to be the

1303
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 5: three seed in the East if they weren't tanking, They're

1304
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 5: still gonna be terrible. They're just going to give more

1305
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 5: effort while they're being terrible and perhaps get some guys

1306
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 5: hurt or what. I don't even know, Like I don't

1307
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 5: know that there is a perfect fix to that issue.

1308
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 5: I think that here's the reason why tanking becomes a problem,

1309
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 5: because the optics of your league continue to tell your

1310
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 5: fans that your players don't really care whether or not

1311
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 5: the fans see them play on a regular basis. The

1312
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 5: fact that you have load management with your stars, the

1313
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 5: fact that on Saturday night prime time games, you're not

1314
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 5: guaranteed to see all the stars, whether there are legitimate

1315
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 5: injuries or not. In a lot of cases there aren't,

1316
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 5: and guys are still sitting out in all of these

1317
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 5: circumstances because that's happening. Then tanking becomes more noticeable because

1318
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 5: it's more symptomatic of like this epidemic that's going through

1319
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 5: the NBA whether it's even fair or not. I still

1320
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 5: think that the large perception, and among most sports just

1321
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 5: folks that watch sports on a regular basis, is that

1322
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 5: the NBA has a bunch of lazy athletes or guys

1323
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 5: that want to collect paychecks but really don't want to

1324
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 5: work unless they have to or it's something that they

1325
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 5: can get out of it in terms of a playoff

1326
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 5: situation or whatever like that. So when you see these

1327
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 5: teams that are out of it, not competing, I think

1328
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 5: it just adds because then you start thinking about that

1329
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 5: league's optics as a whole, and then you start thinking

1330
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 5: about the feckless nature of the front office and Adam

1331
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 5: Silver and some of that stuff, and it all just

1332
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 5: plays into that same narrative like there's tanking in every

1333
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 5: sport to some degree, but it's not talked about anywhere

1334
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 5: except generally in the NBA because of that perception and

1335
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 5: because of the load management era that we are sitting

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01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 5: through now.

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Speaker 3: So a couple things.

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Speaker 5: One.

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01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 3: First of all, it's interesting that this came out this

1340
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 3: week because there was a new found, you know, conversation

1341
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 3: about the sixty five.

1342
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 4: Game rule in the NBA.

1343
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and for people who don't know the sixty five

1344
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,919
Speaker 3: game rule is basically, you have to play sixty five

1345
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 3: of the eighty two regular season games to be eligible

1346
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 3: for things like MVP All NBA Team and it was

1347
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 3: essentially to incentivize players to actually play when they're healthy.

1348
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 3: Why it became interesting was because, and this is very

1349
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 3: sad and unfortunate, but Kate Cunningham, many believe was the

1350
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 3: MVP favorite has a very serious injury that will not

1351
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 3: allow him to play a collapse long, which is obviously awful.

1352
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 3: But the reason that you know, and there's now obviously

1353
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 3: calls to revisit the sixty five game rule. And it's

1354
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 3: like the only reason the sixty five game rule is

1355
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 3: in place is because you couldn't convince guys to play

1356
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 3: when they are fully healthy, and now a guy like

1357
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 3: Kate Cunningham is being punished for it. So this all

1358
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 3: speaks to the bigger picture of the mess that is

1359
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 3: the NBA. And here's the other part that cracks me up.

1360
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 3: There are very simple solutions that don't include teams twenty

1361
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,439
Speaker 3: two through seven through fifteen, plus the four playoff first

1362
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 3: round exits in both cor like, it doesn't take a

1363
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 3: paragraph to explain the MLB and Deutsch just stepped out,

1364
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 3: but I believe it is. And Disager you might know this.

1365
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 3: What is it the top ten in the MLB you

1366
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 3: can't draft in back to back years?

1367
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 4: I believe it is.

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01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 3: It's either top five or top ten in the MLB

1369
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 3: you cannot draft in back to back years. I'm trying

1370
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 3: to look up the rule right now. Let's see here

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01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:41,799
Speaker 3: real quick. First six choices are drafted by lottery whatever.

1372
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 3: That's a very simple solution. Just say you can't have

1373
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 3: a top five pick in back to back years. To saga,

1374
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 3: you can hop in if you want.

1375
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it doesn't refer to like the Pirates,

1376
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:51,839
Speaker 2: but the larger teams.

1377
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The point being, there are very easy

1378
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 3: ways to fix it. Just say you can't have a

1379
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 3: top five pick in back to back years, doesn't matter

1380
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 3: how bad you are. Sorry, those are the rules that

1381
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 3: seems like a very easy fix to me. Where if

1382
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 3: the you know, the San Antonio Spurs have the number

1383
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 3: one pick after they get Victor Weinbanyama, they're not as

1384
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 3: incentivized to try to take if they know that they

1385
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,839
Speaker 3: can't draft until pick number six or pick number eleven

1386
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 3: or whatever you deem it to be so just it's

1387
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 3: just it's just a frustrating metaphor for the state of

1388
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 3: this league. And like I said, I I you know,

1389
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 3: it's a separate conversation of whether tanking is actually an

1390
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 3: issue or not. But the fact that we have to

1391
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 3: get all this convoluted stuff is just like, it's just

1392
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 3: it's exhausting with this guy. It is. And I've done

1393
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 3: my spiel on Adam Silver, but it is just exhausting

1394
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 3: to deal with this guy on a day.

1395
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 5: To day basis. Yeah, and look, we'll get to the

1396
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 5: playoffs here in this next handful of weeks and things

1397
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 5: will get a lot more fun again, and the tanking

1398
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 5: thing won't be talked about it all anymore, and that'll

1399
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 5: be good, and then we could talk about the draft

1400
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 5: and all of this. But I think the biggest album

1401
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 5: for the NBA continues to be that the solutions to

1402
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 5: all of these problems don't generally result in positives. I

1403
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 5: think that the one thing that you can give them

1404
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 5: this year is that the All Star Game, Yes, was

1405
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 5: an improvement, noticeable improvement. A lot of us enjoyed watching

1406
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 5: that Sunday product in a way that we haven't in

1407
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 5: a very long time, and that was appreciated outside of

1408
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 5: that at some point, like, I just don't feel like

1409
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 5: the guys take out of Silver all that. Seriously, I

1410
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 5: think that he's a guy that you know, I think

1411
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 5: he's a decent guy that's trying to do the right thing.

1412
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 5: But I think that he has seeded much of his

1413
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 5: authority and I think that they know that they can

1414
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 5: step on him, and they have stepped on him, and

1415
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 5: at this point he might as well just get out

1416
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 5: of the way, because essentially that's what he's done, because

1417
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 5: you can't then wrestle that back, like once you've given

1418
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 5: them all of the leverage, you can't then come back

1419
01:10:58,280 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 5: in and take it back.

1420
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:04,560
Speaker 3: And I think something else too, like there's a psychological,

1421
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 3: you know, explanation of like sometimes you're you're too smart

1422
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 3: for your own good and you overthink things for your

1423
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 3: your own good. And I don't know if that's what

1424
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 3: he is doing here. And obviously, look, he's got other

1425
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 3: advisors and people making suggestions, but it's just like like

1426
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 3: I said, there are very there are very simple ways

1427
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 3: to solve tanking that don't involve again, I will just

1428
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,640
Speaker 3: read you one of the proposals twenty two teams in

1429
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 3: the lottery using a two year record seed seven through

1430
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 3: fifteen plus the four first round playoff exits lottery teams

1431
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 3: reach a minimum win total floor in each season such

1432
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 3: as twenty. No one can I didn't even get through

1433
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,759
Speaker 3: all of it. No one can understand that. And again,

1434
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 3: and here's the thing, right, all of these sports products,

1435
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 3: they are ultimately entertainment products, and so you want people invested. Well, now,

1436
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 3: nobody's gonna understand the draft lottery. Nobody's gonna understand where

1437
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 3: their team can pick and why they're team. And it's

1438
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 3: just and by the way, in baseball that you brought up,

1439
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 3: whether you're in or out of the lottery back to

1440
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 3: back years, it has to do are you paying into

1441
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 3: revenue sharing like a big market club or are you

1442
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 3: receiving from it? Sure so like a Dodger's even Giants,

1443
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 3: Giants are out of the lottery for a future season

1444
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 3: because they're considered a big market club. And you know,

1445
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 3: it's two years in the it's a two years.

1446
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 2: Max for one and three years max for the other.

1447
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 2: It has to do with this is a non salary

1448
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 2: cap sport, but it has to do with sharing money

1449
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 2: around the league. And this is what people have argued

1450
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 2: against baseball. Well, yeah, sure, bring the salaries down at

1451
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: the top, but make the pirates in Tampa Bay and

1452
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 2: Miami have to actually spend.

1453
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 3: And I would just go back to one. Somebody has

1454
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 3: to tell me what's so bad about today? And I

1455
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 3: think it was actually Mark Cuban, and I'm not gonna

1456
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 3: we're short on time here to look up the quotes,

1457
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 3: but he basically came out today and said, listen, the

1458
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 3: best the history of the NBA tells us the best

1459
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,719
Speaker 3: way to build a championship team is through the NBA Draft.

1460
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 3: And that could be a small market. I don't know

1461
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 3: if you'd consider Denver a small market, but yo, Kitchen

1462
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 3: Murray through the draft big market. If you want to

1463
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 3: consider Boston a big market, Tatum and Brown through the draft.

1464
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 3: And it's like it just feels like a problem that

1465
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 3: doesn't need a solution. And again, I think most fans

1466
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 3: sign up and understand what they're signed up for. And

1467
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 3: to Jay Mart's point a second ago, like what if

1468
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 3: you're a Wizards fan, you know your team stinks, but

1469
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 3: two so they're trying now and they go, you know, uh, but.

1470
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 2: Then you have to draft well, I mean this person

1471
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 2: on the front office, and this is why we see

1472
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 2: the amount of all stars that came through the San

1473
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: Diego Padres for example, they didn't wind up with the

1474
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 2: Padres for years. You still have to have a good

1475
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 2: front office.

1476
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 3: So anyway, three proposals, and it sounds like they want

1477
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 3: to make a decision by May. You know, we'll see

1478
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 3: if it impacts it this year's I The one thing

1479
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,719
Speaker 3: I couldn't find is if it will impact this year's

1480
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 3: NBA Draft lottery or not.

1481
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 2: But do you go up one position in the draft

1482
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 2: lottery if you take the NBA Cup? Is this related?

1483
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: Because use time it counts.

1484
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 3: If you hang the banner and celebrate in the locker room,

1485
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 3: you get extra ping pong balls since everyone refuses to

1486
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 3: celebrate the NBA Cup, which is we also call the

1487
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,799
Speaker 3: n season tournament, which is definitely not a tournament.

1488
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 5: It's almost like it doesn't matter.

1489
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 3: Some would say it doesn't. Fox Sports Radio air towards

1490
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 3: Jason Martin. We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1491
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 3: What does matter at us is what the SEGA has

1492
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,879
Speaker 3: to say. He will give us his extended update. Everything

1493
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 3: we missed throughout a busy last Saturday of March, MLB

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Speaker 3: has begun. College hoops is at its apex. We'll discuss

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Speaker 3: it all next. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 6: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we are live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,

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01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 3: twelve forty nine Eastern Time, as we do every week.

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01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 3: Let's get it over to the news desk to sega,

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01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 3: what have we missed in the first two hours of

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01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 3: this show.

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01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 2: Well, for starters, the late ballgame is still going. They

1507
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 2: started the tenth inning ainst Seattle Mariners three to three

1508
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 2: with Cleveland because down to their last strike, Julia Rodriguez

1509
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 2: hit an RBI single for the home team to even things. Unfortunately,

1510
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 2: Seattle's defense has just committed an air quite quickly in

1511
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 2: the tenth, so they're down four to three to Cleveland.

1512
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 2: All over again. But it was exciting for just a moment,

1513
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 2: you know. And then there was the excitement at Atlanta,

1514
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: trailing to nothing bottom of the ninth. The Braves beat

1515
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: Kansas City with six runs in the ninth six to

1516
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 2: the final because Dominat Smith, former Mets prospect, came up

1517
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 2: with bases loaded hit it out of the park to

1518
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 2: win the game. This is the actual sound inside the stadium.

1519
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 2: Dominic Smith apparently the first player in Major League history

1520
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 2: with a walkoff Grand Slam in his debut with that team.

1521
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 2: And Bob Nightingale, longtime baseball writer USA Today, points out

1522
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 2: that for Smith, two weeks ago, his mom passed away

1523
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 2: of cancer as the walk off slam tonight in Atlanta,

1524
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 2: and Smith said quote, the inspiration was rude to NCAA

1525
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 2: Hoopes because we had Arizona advancing to the Final four

1526
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 2: and Illinois advancing to the Final four. It had been

1527
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 2: roughly twenty and twenty five years, respectively for those two

1528
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 2: programs to get this far Final four next weekend in Indy,

1529
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: something I had not not even for a second considered.

1530
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 2: Arizona keeps ending opponents winning streaks round after round to

1531
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 2: get to this Final four. Stad Sink says no other

1532
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 2: team ever has reached the Final four by snapping four

1533
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 2: separate winning streaks of at least five games each. Wow

1534
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 2: Purdue had a seven game streak going until tonight. Arkansas

1535
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 2: had won seven in a row. Utah State before that

1536
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 2: had won five in a row. Lu first Round had

1537
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 2: won five in a row until meeting Arizona, so freshman

1538
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 2: Coepete of the Wildcats named most Outstanding Player and the

1539
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 2: All Region Team in San Jose tonight, two Purdue players

1540
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,879
Speaker 2: two Arizona players out of the five that were honored.

1541
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:40,759
Speaker 2: And in Houston we had Illinois win the South Region

1542
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 2: final and we had three Illinois players out of the

1543
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 2: five honored, including a freshman as Outstanding Player of the Region,

1544
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 2: Keaton Woggler, who had twenty five points as Illinois beat

1545
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 2: Iowa seventy one fifty nine. Iowa had led twelve to

1546
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,839
Speaker 2: early in this game. Bennett Stetz played all forty minutes

1547
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 2: twenty four points in the loss. The rest of his

1548
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 2: team shot ten for thirty from the floor. Arizona will

1549
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 2: face the Michigan Tennessee winner in a national semifinal. Amazingly, Arizona,

1550
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 2: which has had a pretty good college hoops history, tonight

1551
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 2: was its largest comeback from a half time depsit ever

1552
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 2: to win an NCAA tournament Game seven. They were down

1553
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,759
Speaker 2: seven at the half to Purdue tonight. They had actually

1554
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 2: been down five in a first rounder to South Florida

1555
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,799
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety and that was about the biggest comeback

1556
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 2: they'd had. They were down six at half to Duke

1557
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 2: in a twenty eleven Sweet sixteen game that had been

1558
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 2: the Arizona right now.

1559
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 3: That was the game that got Derek Williams drafted number

1560
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 3: two overall. It was like the only good game he

1561
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 3: played all year, and everybody was watching.

1562
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 2: And was at that game, and they beat Kyrie Irving,

1563
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 2: he actually played.

1564
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 3: Do you remember who was in the other semifinal.

1565
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 2: I very much do when Connecticut's Kawhi Leonard versus Kemba

1566
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 2: man Walker beat San Diego State. I remember most when

1567
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 2: San Diego State, which had never had a run in

1568
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 2: their history like that and they got bounced in Southern

1569
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 2: California by Yukon. San Diego State was they had so

1570
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 2: many fans there and so loud there and did not advance.

1571
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,679
Speaker 2: Some of the players were so depressed they started walking

1572
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 2: off the floor as soon as the horn sounded, and

1573
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 2: Marshall Falk, former San Diego State running back who was there,

1574
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 2: stood on the corner of the court and made the

1575
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 2: players turn around and go shake the hands of the

1576
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 2: opponents before they walked off the court. As for the

1577
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 2: what's coming up on Sunday answer, it's two other regional

1578
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 2: finals in men's hoops, number one seed Michigan against six

1579
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 2: seed Tennessee. That's in Chicago two fifteen Eastern time, and

1580
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 2: then in Washington, d C. About five pm Eastern Tomorrow.

1581
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 2: It's number one Duke thirty five and two against two

1582
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 2: seed Yukon thirty two and five, and the Yukon women

1583
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 2: ranked number one thirty seven and oh face Notre Dame

1584
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 2: in a regional final, though start for the women on Sunday.

1585
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 2: Also one seed UCLA's thirty four and one. They have

1586
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 2: a regional final tomorrow against duke one seeds Texas and

1587
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 2: South Carolina each advanced two regional finals with victories today

1588
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,719
Speaker 2: wins for Michigan and TCU as well. And the US

1589
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 2: is going to be hosting a lot of the World

1590
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 2: Cup games in men's soccer this summer, most of them

1591
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 2: in NFL stadiums well. US men's soccer was in Atlanta

1592
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 2: today in a World Cup tune up and lost five

1593
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,799
Speaker 2: two to Belgium. Attendance with sixty seven thousand. The Americans

1594
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 2: were actually up one nothing late in the first half.

1595
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 2: The World Cup starts June the twelfth, the Americans at

1596
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 2: the La Rams Stadium. Now Belgium is undefeated in its

1597
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,520
Speaker 2: last ten games. But there's just been a sneaking suspicion

1598
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:41,759
Speaker 2: for a couple of years now for US soccer fans.

1599
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 2: Are we gonna host this thing and just be completely

1600
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:48,440
Speaker 2: embarrassed on the world stage. Stay tuned us against Portugal

1601
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:50,839
Speaker 2: on Tuesday in Atlanta in at tuneup.

1602
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Steve to say your Fox Sports

1603
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 3: Radio aeron Tours Jason Mark one hour left a lot

1604
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 3: of college shoops to discuss. Pre Welcome in everybody hour

1605
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,719
Speaker 3: three tours at Martin Fox Sports Radio. We are broadcasting live. Yes,

1606
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 3: we are live one am Eastern Time from the Fox

1607
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 3: Sports Radio studios. We appreciate everybody joining us here. If

1608
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,040
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1609
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:17,000
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1610
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1611
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01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,160
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1613
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1614
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,799
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01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:35,280
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1618
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 4: NCAA Tournament. It is March.

1619
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 3: We had to March twenty ninth on the East Coast,

1620
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 3: so last couple days of the month. It means that

1621
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 3: the NCAA Tournament is both winding down but also ramping up.

1622
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 3: Two teams have punched their tickets. We'll go to the

1623
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:56,640
Speaker 3: second game first. This one was in San Jose. It

1624
01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 3: was the West Regional Arizona Purdue one seed versus two

1625
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 3: seed Perdue. Led by seven at the half, Arizona rallies

1626
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 3: outscores the Purdue boiler Makers by twenty two points in

1627
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 3: the second half for a seventy nine to sixty four win.

1628
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 3: Arizona headed to its first Final four since two thousand

1629
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 3: and one. Here is what Tommy Lloyd sent to all

1630
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 3: the Arizona fans who made it to San Jose.

1631
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 10: Personally, I feel good, I'm what I'm most happy for

1632
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 10: is these Arizona fans.

1633
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 1: You got this zarn mash. Hey, this comes to the Nason.

1634
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 4: Hey, I know this Nason.

1635
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 3: I know, Hey, there's a good looking guy with white

1636
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 3: hair looking down.

1637
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 4: At us right now. That's happy Personally.

1638
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 3: I feel that was Arizona coach Tommy Lloyd, obviously a

1639
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 3: testament to the late Loot Olsen, who led Arizona to

1640
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 3: its only national championship in two in nineteen ninety seven.

1641
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 3: Excuse me, led them to four final fours. The steward

1642
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 3: of the program, Tommy Lloyd's always done an excellent job

1643
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 3: of acknowledging not only lude Olsen. Actually, ironically he's given

1644
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 3: a lot of credit to Sean Miller, who was part

1645
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,440
Speaker 3: of this regional as the head coach of the Texas Longhorns.

1646
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 3: Lost to Purdue in the last round. But bring it up,

1647
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 3: j Mart. Arizona headed to its first Final four since

1648
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 3: two thousand and one. This, of course, after an incredible

1649
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 3: regular season that involved thirty two regular season wins plus

1650
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 3: the conference tournament Big Twelve regular Season championship, Big Twelve

1651
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 3: Tournament Championship. And I don't want to speak for you,

1652
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 3: but I think that we both agree was probably one

1653
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,759
Speaker 3: of the two or so favorites coming into this tournament,

1654
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 3: and they have lived up to it so far.

1655
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, they have, I mean, very impressive of them. You

1656
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 5: said they outscored him by twenty two. I think it

1657
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 5: even stands out more when you say the second half

1658
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 5: was forty six to twenty four, just domination against a

1659
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 5: really good Purdue team that had a seven point lead

1660
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 5: at the half and really was kind of firing on

1661
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 5: all cylinders and you know, had a lot of vets

1662
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 5: on that team as well, had Braden Smith, and had

1663
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 5: guys that you would want, and they just couldn't match

1664
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 5: Arizona in the second half. And it's the extra gear

1665
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 5: that we have seen from the Wildcats time and time

1666
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 5: again this season when they've had to have it, when

1667
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 5: they've had to step up, when they've been challenged, they've

1668
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 5: answered virtually every time. And of course, going through that

1669
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 5: Big twelve schedule and even they're out of conference games,

1670
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 5: they certainly did not earn their record by you know,

1671
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,719
Speaker 5: scheduling a bunch of also rans and nobodies and little

1672
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 5: Sisters of the Poor and all those things like. No,

1673
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 5: they went out and they beat great teams all year long,

1674
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 5: and so they come into this tournament and they're not

1675
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 5: going to be phased, They're not going to be surprised

1676
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 5: by anything. That they see and no one's gonna blow

1677
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 5: their doors off. They're going to answer. The question is

1678
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 5: can you answer to their answers? And their biggest tests

1679
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,639
Speaker 5: are still to come and they know that, but getting

1680
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 5: back to a final four is an achievement in itself,

1681
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 5: especially for a fan base that feels like it's been

1682
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:17,759
Speaker 5: so tortured and so close, but it's just been heartache

1683
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 5: after heartache after heartache. Doesn't matter if they're number one seeds,

1684
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 5: doesn't matter how many NBA players they've got on those rosters, like,

1685
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,719
Speaker 5: they just haven't been able to get the job done.

1686
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 5: And this group gets to a final four where they're

1687
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 5: going to match up with either Michigan or Tennessee, and

1688
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 5: you know, I've got them winning at all, and I

1689
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 5: had them winning it all from the very beginning, even

1690
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 5: with their history recently of just finding a way not

1691
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 5: to get there. This group felt different and it still

1692
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 5: feels different to me, and watching this game, I feel

1693
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 5: even better than I have at any point in this

1694
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 5: tournament because they answered a major challenge from another battle

1695
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 5: tested team and a really gritty bunch in Purdue, and

1696
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 5: they be their breaks off in the second half and

1697
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 5: just sent them away like, no, you're done, go ahead

1698
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 5: and leave. Like to beat them. The way that they

1699
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 5: beat them in the second half is just like, yeah,

1700
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 5: that's the best team in the country.

1701
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1702
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 3: So I'm looking it up really quick. Arizona, since the

1703
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 3: last time they have been to the final four, forget

1704
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 3: let's just even forget Sweet sixteens, including each of the

1705
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 3: last two seasons. Three of the last four seasons they

1706
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 3: have been to a Sweet sixteen or beyond. But twenty

1707
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 3: fifteen Elite eight lost, twenty fourteen Elite eight loss di

1708
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 3: Sega reference the twenty eleven NCAA Tournament a minute ago

1709
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 3: lost you go back to the twenty two thousand and

1710
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 3: three season Elite eight loss. So we're talking a team

1711
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 3: that has been to four Elite eights since the last

1712
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 3: time they have been to a Final four. One of

1713
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 3: the games I was at they lost in overtime. Multiple

1714
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 3: Sweet sixteen appearances outside of the Elite eight appearances, And

1715
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this, jaymart what you said about being

1716
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 3: battle tested, it's interesting because listen, Arizona's my pick. I

1717
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 3: know the history. You know, if Perdue had made it,

1718
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 3: they would have been a deserving team. But I you know, listen,

1719
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I was rooting for Arizona to the

1720
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 3: degree that I care, you know. But what was interesting was,

1721
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 3: you know, you worry when they fall down seven, but

1722
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 3: I also wasn't worried because they were so battle testing.

1723
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 1: Now.

1724
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 3: I thought they could lose, but I didn't think they

1725
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,799
Speaker 3: were going to just roll over. And a seven point

1726
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 3: lead for Purdue, a seven point deficit for Arizona was

1727
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 3: going to become twenty two points by the middle of

1728
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 3: the second half. And you talk about what they've done.

1729
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 3: It started on opening night. They played the then defending

1730
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 3: champion Florida Gators. Florida turned out pretty good, beat them,

1731
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:44,679
Speaker 3: beat UCLA in La at the into It Dome where

1732
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 3: the Clippers play, one at Yukon in a game that

1733
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 3: Arnie Spanier was at and referenced earlier. We had Arnie

1734
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 3: on the show. Beat Alabama in Birmingham, took care of

1735
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 3: business in the Big twelve, beat Iowa State twice one

1736
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 3: at Houston, split with kas the only two losses they

1737
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 3: had all year at Kansas by three or by four,

1738
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 3: excuse me, and in overtime against Texas Tech when Texas

1739
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 3: Tech was at full strength with their All American JT

1740
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:16,759
Speaker 3: top and so that's what stands out to me. Battle tested.

1741
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 3: But also they really haven't had like a bad game

1742
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 3: like everybody. I mean, pick a team. You know, Michigan

1743
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 3: has had bad games. They're incredible, they're great. They're probably

1744
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 3: the co favorite in this tournament with Arizona, but they've

1745
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 3: had bad games. Yukon has clearly had bad games. I

1746
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 3: think even Duke has had some pretty bad games that

1747
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 3: they have even been on the right side of, you know,

1748
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 3: notably that Sienna game to open the tournament. So incredible

1749
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 3: job by Arizona. They're headed to their first Final four

1750
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 3: since two thousand and one. By the way, the other

1751
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 3: night against Arkansas had fourteen or all five starters scored

1752
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 3: fourteen plus points in this game. I think it was

1753
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 3: worth noting a couple of things. One, they had four

1754
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 3: different guys scoring double fives. CoA Pete, as Desager said,

1755
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 3: was your West Regional most outstanding player, a freshman who

1756
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 3: had twenty points in this game. It's worth noting. By

1757
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 3: the way, I was at that Florida game to open

1758
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 3: the season, he had thirty to open the season against Florida.

1759
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 3: He's an Arizona I'll just he's kind of an Arizona

1760
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 3: high school legend. Four high school state championships in the

1761
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 3: state of Arizona. Leads Arizona to a Final four. Arizona

1762
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 3: headed for the first time since two thousand and one.

1763
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 3: The other team that made it has not been since

1764
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,600
Speaker 3: two thousand and five. That is the Illinois fighting in

1765
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,879
Speaker 3: line I. They take care of business against the Iowa

1766
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 3: Hawk guys. Iowa was obviously in this bracket, the nine seed.

1767
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,600
Speaker 3: They upset the Florida Gators in the first In the

1768
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 3: second round, excuse me last Sunday took care of Nebraska

1769
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 3: on on Thursday of this week, did not have enough.

1770
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 5: One.

1771
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,600
Speaker 3: I think it's an incredible first year for Ben McCollum.

1772
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:00,719
Speaker 3: This was a guy that the This is the Iowa

1773
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 3: coach who was at Drake last year. Before that, he

1774
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:07,799
Speaker 3: had won multiple national championships at the D two level.

1775
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 3: But this was about Illinois Big ten rivals. Illinois, the

1776
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 3: biggest team in college basketball statistically, just had way too

1777
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 3: much for the iowahaw.

1778
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 5: Cass Yeah, too much size. And then again, Iowa played

1779
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 5: really well in the first half. Second half, they just

1780
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 5: didn't have the answers. They didn't make the deep shots

1781
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 5: that they were making in the first half. They shot

1782
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 5: well from three in the first half, they really did.

1783
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 5: But one thing that you could see was that they

1784
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 5: just didn't have a defensive answer for Illinois. If Illinois

1785
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 5: just kind of got itself in rhythm, and that's what

1786
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 5: you saw in that second half, and they were able

1787
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 5: to just kind of pull away. Still a really nice

1788
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 5: season to your point for Iowa in the first season

1789
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 5: for McCollum. They've got a bright future there. He seems

1790
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 5: like he's going to be there for a while, even

1791
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 5: though his name's going to be attached to a bunch

1792
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 5: of jobs. Like a lot of guys, you know, they've

1793
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 5: got a good situation there, despite the fact that they're

1794
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 5: going to lose some talent in this offseason. But yeah,

1795
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 5: Illinois was the better team. I think we all knew

1796
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 5: that going into the game. It was because it was

1797
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 5: a conference matchup and those teams knew each other fairly. Well.

1798
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,480
Speaker 5: You know, that makes it a little bit more intriguing

1799
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 5: because the lower seed, even the team without as much talent,

1800
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 5: they have more information on you than than others might,

1801
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 5: and certainly they have a lot more to pull from

1802
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:32,600
Speaker 5: in that way. But they just they just didn't have

1803
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 5: the horses. Quite frankly, they just couldn't match up guy

1804
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 5: for guy man on man with Illinois. It just finally

1805
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 5: wore them down. That's kind of what Illinois did. They

1806
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 5: just kind of wore them down, wore them out, and

1807
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 5: then just beat them.

1808
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 4: Hey, really random.

1809
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 3: Before you know, we'll come back and we'll preview the

1810
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 3: other games. Do you have any any strong takeaways on

1811
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 3: the end of the Iowa Nebraska game on Thursday night,

1812
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 3: when Nebraska had four players on the court at the

1813
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 3: most crucial time of the game.

1814
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,520
Speaker 5: I don't know a strong takeaways. I mean, it's horrifying,

1815
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 5: Like I mean, that's a nightmare situation. I appreciated Hoiberg

1816
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 5: just not even not even letting critique fall onto anybody.

1817
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 5: I thought like he didn't even want the question to

1818
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 5: be asked. He just took it himself and said, that's

1819
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 5: on me. I'm the coach. I didn't get it done.

1820
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 5: And you know that that kind of quilled the situation

1821
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 5: in terms of who else was going to be asked

1822
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:29,040
Speaker 5: what went down. That was just really unfortunate for Nebraska.

1823
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:31,719
Speaker 5: I mean, they had been so good throughout the course

1824
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 5: of the tournament, and that was a great basketball game,

1825
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 5: but that's just an unthinkable mistake in that spot and

1826
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 5: it just led to that bucket that they just were

1827
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 5: unable to recover from.

1828
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the way you framed it as well.

1829
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a strong take to have

1830
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 3: you felt bad And to your point, I thought Fred

1831
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 3: Hoiberg answered the question as well as he could for

1832
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 3: people who didn't hear the audio, just basically said, no,

1833
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 3: need to ask these guys. It's on you know, there's

1834
01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 3: two players or three players with them at the podium.

1835
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 3: He said, no, no need to ask these guys, it's

1836
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 3: on me. I've never been part of anything like that before,

1837
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,639
Speaker 3: but I'm the coach. The buck stops here. I thought

1838
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,480
Speaker 3: it was interesting. There was like a little semi backlash

1839
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 3: of is the are the referees obligated to tell the

1840
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 3: coach there's only four players on the floor, you know?

1841
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 3: And Heiberg kind of reference like, yeah, well, Heiberg reference

1842
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 3: like you know if what did he say, like if

1843
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 3: you have six or you know whatever, like, but no,

1844
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 3: I don't think there's an obligation to And by the way,

1845
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 3: it didn't lose them the game IOWA was up three,

1846
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 3: but that was kind of the spot that sealed the victory.

1847
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 3: So Iowa of course survived the Nebraska game. They lose

1848
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:42,480
Speaker 3: to Illinois. On Saturday night, Illinois will be in Indianapolis.

1849
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 3: They will play the winner of Yukon Duke Arizona will

1850
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:48,440
Speaker 3: play the winner of Tennessee and Michigan.

1851
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what we'll come back in.

1852
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 3: We will preview the two sun May games, Michigan, Tennessee,

1853
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 3: the early game, Duke Yukon, the Lake game, we'll talk

1854
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 3: about that. We'll talk about the UNC job. Well way,

1855
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:02,719
Speaker 3: a lot of college troops coming up. Aer towards Jason Martin,

1856
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Rady, don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1857
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 3: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio Aer towards Jason Martin.

1858
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:24,160
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1859
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:28,400
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1860
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:30,760
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1861
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:33,639
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1862
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1863
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1865
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1866
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 5: J Mart.

1867
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 3: Two tickets have been punched to the final four. Illinois

1868
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 3: wins in the South, Arizona wins the West. We got

1869
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 3: two games on Sunday, So I'll tell you what, Mary,

1870
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 3: why don't you give us a little music put us

1871
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 3: in the mood to preview some college hoops.

1872
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 4: There it is, Jamar. Let's start with the early game.

1873
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 4: I'm curious for your perspective.

1874
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 3: For people who don't know, j Mart is based out

1875
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 3: of Nashville, you know you covered the Tennessee Balls for years.

1876
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:17,479
Speaker 4: Third straight Elite eight.

1877
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 3: They are playing a juggernaut in the Michigan Wolverines.

1878
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 5: Listen.

1879
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 3: Bottom line is Tennessee incredible win over Iowa State. They

1880
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,600
Speaker 3: are a seven and a half point favorite. This is

1881
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 3: a two fifteen Eastern Time tip. I'm just gonna give

1882
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 3: you the four. You know, Tennessee is obviously not expected

1883
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,919
Speaker 3: to win this game, but again, you know that university,

1884
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 3: that program probably better than anyone on this network. So

1885
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 3: I'll just I just be curious for your perspective.

1886
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, this is not their best team. This

1887
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 5: is the team that had Dalton Connect a couple of

1888
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 5: years ago, that win against the Purdue team that ended

1889
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:00,640
Speaker 5: up losing in the final to Yukon that that team

1890
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 5: it kind of synergized better than anybody else, and they

1891
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 5: were probably the hottest team. And then there was a

1892
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:10,440
Speaker 5: team a few years before that that had Grant Williams

1893
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:15,599
Speaker 5: and Admiral Schofield, and those were some really, really talented teams.

1894
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 5: This one's not quite that loaded. I don't think this

1895
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,759
Speaker 5: team has what it takes to match up with Michigan.

1896
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 5: I think seven is gonna be a gift if it's

1897
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 5: that close. I don't think it's going to be that close.

1898
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 5: I think it's more likely to be fifteen or more.

1899
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 5: I just don't think like Tennessee has already, my opinion,

1900
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 5: proven a lot just to get to this point. Now

1901
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:38,719
Speaker 5: they got Iowa State, you know, without Jefferson being able

1902
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 5: to play. Who knows what happens otherwise, but you play

1903
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:45,719
Speaker 5: with what you got, and Tennessee was able to really

1904
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 5: just bludgeon them in the second half, really really impressive

1905
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 5: performance by them, to pull away and just to kind

1906
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,679
Speaker 5: of dominate really and make that thing of no doubt

1907
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 5: or by the time the final horn sounded. So I

1908
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 5: think they've had a successful year. And I say that

1909
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 5: as someone who says like that season's over, and I

1910
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:03,599
Speaker 5: think it is. I just I don't think they can

1911
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 5: match up with Michigan. I just don't. But Rick Warrens

1912
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 5: has done a nice job the whole time he's been

1913
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 5: at Tennessee. I think he has proven some of the

1914
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,679
Speaker 5: doubters wrong. They have not gotten to a Final four.

1915
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 5: Tennessee is still looking for their first. But you know

1916
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:20,599
Speaker 5: they've knocked on the doorstep now three years in a row.

1917
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 5: It's just this matchup just ain't it. Man? This is

1918
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 5: not the This is not the one. There might have

1919
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 5: been somebody in this final eight that they could have beaten,

1920
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 5: but I don't think it's his team.

1921
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:32,799
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a quick question. As you mentioned

1922
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,320
Speaker 3: loss to Purdue two years ago. Purdue played for a

1923
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 3: national title that year, lost to Houston in the Elite

1924
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 3: eight last year. Right, they are a seven and a

1925
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 3: half point underdog, they are a sixty. There's gonna be

1926
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 3: no residual like, oh, they got to this stage again.

1927
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 4: Like, I don't think there will be.

1928
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 3: Because they're a six seed that beat a three in

1929
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 3: a two and earn their way here. I don't think

1930
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 3: there will be negativity if they lose, even if it's

1931
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:02,479
Speaker 3: ugly outside of you know, the typical angry people online

1932
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 3: that just want to complain about something. But it won't

1933
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 3: be like some big indictment because it's a third straight

1934
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 3: Elite eight loss.

1935
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 5: Right, No, because I think that again, this team, the

1936
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 5: expectations coming into this tournament for Tennessee were a lot

1937
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 5: more reasonable from the fans because this season hadn't been

1938
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 5: some kind of just magic run where they were just

1939
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:24,720
Speaker 5: dominating all year long and they were in the top

1940
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 5: five mix all year. It's like now they've been around

1941
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 5: twentieth somewhere in that neighborhood for much of the year,

1942
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:32,600
Speaker 5: twenty to twenty five range. So for them to be

1943
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:35,599
Speaker 5: in the Elite eight, I just don't think that their

1944
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:38,679
Speaker 5: fans were expecting this to be a Final four run.

1945
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 5: Like my wife and her father and mother, who are

1946
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 5: all just vallfans, and her dad went there and all

1947
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 5: that stuff, Like, none of them are expecting this. They're

1948
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 5: already kind of overjoyed that they're in the Elite eight.

1949
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 5: I know that sounds kind of like, you know, participant

1950
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 5: ribbon stuff. I'm not really suggesting that, I'm just saying that, No,

1951
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 5: he's gonna look on this season as a failure unless

1952
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:07,679
Speaker 5: they started that way and suggested that this the makeup

1953
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:09,559
Speaker 5: of this team wasn't good from the start, and they

1954
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:12,759
Speaker 5: lay that blame on Rick Barnes. But that's been blamed.

1955
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:15,680
Speaker 5: They would have laid back in December. I don't think

1956
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 5: that that's gonna bother him at all. I think this

1957
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 5: is just gonna be a season. They're going to say, yeah,

1958
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 5: pretty good year. We'll see what you do next year.

1959
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with any of it, you know, I

1960
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 3: don't know what the right verbiage is. They're not, you know,

1961
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 3: but they were sick by the way they were, you know,

1962
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:32,799
Speaker 3: like a four to four and a half point underdog

1963
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 3: on whatever it was Friday night against Iowa State. So

1964
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 3: definitely have made it further than I think a lot

1965
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 3: of people expected. Basically everybody expected. Let's get to the

1966
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 3: late game. You know where my allegiances, Yukon Husky's. They

1967
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 3: are actually a five point underdog to the Duke Blue

1968
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 3: Devils one versus two in the East Regional. By the way,

1969
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 3: I didn't mention, I'm with you. I think Tennessee has

1970
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 3: overachieved in this tournament relative to what they've done all season.

1971
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 5: I think the.

1972
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 4: Physicality and toughness. I think exactly what you said.

1973
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:06,719
Speaker 3: I think a different number one seed, a different set

1974
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:10,599
Speaker 3: of circumstances. I just think Michigan's the wrong team. Michigan tough,

1975
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 3: physical downloall. I don't see Michigan not winning that game.

1976
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 3: I expect Michigan to advance. Let's get to the Lake game.

1977
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 3: Yukon Duke five Eastern one versus two. By the way,

1978
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 3: j Martin noteworthy to some tomorrow or today, depending on

1979
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 3: where you are. Sunday will be March twenty ninth. That

1980
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 3: is the twenty seven year anniversary of Yukon beating Duke

1981
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 3: to win the first national title in school history. On

1982
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 3: March twenty ninth, nineteen ninety.

1983
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 5: Nine, was that the Khalid Elmine shock the world. Khalid

1984
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 5: el Amine with Trajan Langdon on the other side.

1985
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 3: Trajan Langdon was on the other side, missed a shot

1986
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 3: at the buzzer.

1987
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:47,639
Speaker 5: Yep.

1988
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 3: I think it might have even been a two, which

1989
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:52,679
Speaker 3: would not have been you know, would have done anything,

1990
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 3: but yes, Khalid el Amine, Rip Hamilton, Jake.

1991
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,559
Speaker 5: Vashka wo yeah, Vosco. Yeah, there you go.

1992
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 3: By the way, shout out Bill Raftery. I was watching

1993
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 3: some game I don't even remember. It was like a

1994
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:09,599
Speaker 3: first round game. Somebody checked in Bill Raftery, this this

1995
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 3: this genius with you know, they'll have to study his

1996
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:15,679
Speaker 3: brain when he's you know, no longer. He literally said,

1997
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 3: oh yeah, that guy went to this high school. I

1998
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:21,559
Speaker 3: think Jake Foschkell went there, and sure enough, Jake Voshkeell

1999
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 3: went there. So shout out Bill Raftery, Jake Foschkell, Yukon

2000
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 3: Husky's twenty seven years ago, twenty seven years later, Duke

2001
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 3: is a five point favorite.

2002
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 4: One thing we didn't get to.

2003
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 3: J mart I love Rick Patino, Oh yeah, Duke in

2004
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 3: the the the you know, the thirty eight year old coach.

2005
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 3: I thought Shyer out coached him late. I thought Duke

2006
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 3: out executed them late. So we don't have to make

2007
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 3: this the Saint John's segment. But you know, Duke earned

2008
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 3: their spot here. You know, Caleb Foster had not played

2009
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:55,559
Speaker 3: in weeks. John Shire said after the game. It was

2010
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 3: his first five on five since the surgery. They get

2011
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 3: the win, Foster makes plays late. They're now facing the

2012
01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 3: yukot Huskies.

2013
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:06,840
Speaker 5: You take it where Eastern Davis saved their season mission, Yeah,

2014
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 5: it was amazing. I know there's a lot of talk

2015
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 5: about Boozer, but those two guys won that game. Yet

2016
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 5: Saint John's they shot absolutely stupid good from three in

2017
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 5: the first half. I think they were ten of twenty

2018
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 5: one or right thereabouts, like just nuts. And they're not

2019
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 5: that great a three point shooting team. That's not really

2020
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:30,599
Speaker 5: what they were what they had done throughout the course

2021
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:33,479
Speaker 5: of the season. But they came out in the second

2022
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 5: half like they were gonna do that again, and for

2023
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 5: whatever reason, especially late, they relied on the three, and

2024
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 5: it basically let Duke sit back and not get in

2025
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:44,960
Speaker 5: any kind of foul trouble or put them on the line.

2026
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:47,679
Speaker 5: Saint John's took eight foul shots in the game, and yes,

2027
01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:49,720
Speaker 5: you're gonna look at that and say, well, that's the

2028
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 5: Duke rule because Duke took twenty five. Well, Duke was

2029
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 5: on the inside banging around a lot as well, Like, yeah,

2030
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:58,760
Speaker 5: I do think that there were probably some things that

2031
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:00,599
Speaker 5: were let go. They were letting them lay on one

2032
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 5: side there a little bit, Like I definitely think there's

2033
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:06,920
Speaker 5: something to that. But Shire late in the game did

2034
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:09,600
Speaker 5: seem to out coach Patino, and there was talking to

2035
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:12,479
Speaker 5: first half that Patino was out coaching Shire and then

2036
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 5: and it was just kind of like, well, I mean,

2037
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 5: Patino went to his zone like that, That's something that

2038
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:22,480
Speaker 5: happens quite frequently. Patino was one of the great coaches

2039
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 5: by far to ever live. He wins everywhere he goes.

2040
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 5: But honestly, watching that game play out, Saint John's had

2041
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 5: the momentum, and when Duke actually answered that bell and

2042
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:36,679
Speaker 5: it got kind of nosed to nose and they started

2043
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 5: going back and forth, Saint John's flinched. Man, they hit

2044
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:43,480
Speaker 5: the brakes a little bit too early. They started resorting

2045
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 5: to shots they didn't need to resort to. They took

2046
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 5: some bad looks and I'm still trying to figure out.

2047
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,719
Speaker 5: And I asked you this last night, where was Where

2048
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 5: was my mancious? Absolutely red hot? Where was Frey in

2049
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 5: the second half of the game? Like he he couldn't

2050
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:00,719
Speaker 5: miss in the first half, Like I'm I'm not suggesting

2051
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 5: that he needed to be out there for all twenty

2052
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:05,680
Speaker 5: minutes in the second half, but he was absolutely a

2053
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:08,800
Speaker 5: spark and was on fire and was just nowhere to

2054
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:09,599
Speaker 5: be seen late.

2055
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:12,160
Speaker 4: Listen, second straight year.

2056
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:15,639
Speaker 3: You know, last year, as everyone probably remembers, you lose

2057
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 3: in the round of thirty two. This is Saint John's

2058
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 3: r J. Luis the big Big East player of the

2059
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 3: year was bench late Patino, you know, noncommittal about that,

2060
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:28,919
Speaker 3: and you know Luis goes pro and doesn't get drafted,

2061
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,759
Speaker 3: and it was clear that something had happened there.

2062
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 4: I don't think Rubin pray and I'll.

2063
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:36,639
Speaker 3: Be honest and this is I'll just admit this at

2064
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:39,679
Speaker 3: one thirty two Eastern time. Hopefully the bosses aren't aren't listening.

2065
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:40,719
Speaker 4: I don't.

2066
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 3: I didn't see if Rick Patino addressed that after the game,

2067
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:47,680
Speaker 3: but yes, twelve points on four to four shooting from

2068
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 3: three for Rubin prey in that game in the first

2069
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:54,679
Speaker 3: half and essentially did not play in the second half.

2070
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 3: Let's get to the game on Sunday, Yukon versus Duke.

2071
01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:01,600
Speaker 3: Yukon survives Michigan State. They were up nineteen in the

2072
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 3: first half when Steve de Seger played Billy Packer saying

2073
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 3: it's ova that was from the two thousand and eight

2074
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 3: Final four. What do you think for this game? As

2075
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:14,439
Speaker 3: Yukon and Duke will play in the second, of course

2076
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 3: Elite eight game in Washington, DC.

2077
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 5: I mean it's a tough call. I have Arizona and

2078
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 5: Duke in my final, but I can tell you that

2079
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 5: I do not think that Duke can get away with

2080
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 5: halving a half. Look, Michigan State was able to come

2081
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 5: back on Yukon. We didn't talk about that that much. Obviously,

2082
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 5: you did a lot the night before, and we kind

2083
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 5: of tossed it around a little bit earlier in the show.

2084
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,599
Speaker 5: But I mean, Yukon looked like they were gonna blow

2085
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:42,760
Speaker 5: him out. Michigan State was able to come back. Maybe

2086
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 5: Duke has that in them. I don't know, but Yukon

2087
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 5: is ready to beat them. I'm sure Hurley will have

2088
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:54,320
Speaker 5: them ready to beat them. I just think that's gonna

2089
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 5: be a great basketball game. I don't I want to

2090
01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 5: pick Yukon, honestly, but my brackets, my bracket. I've got

2091
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 5: to stick with Duke. I felt like they were gonna

2092
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:06,000
Speaker 5: be the one to knock you con out at this spot. Anyway,

2093
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 5: I had almost done what you did and pick Saint

2094
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 5: John's to be Duke when I was laying out my

2095
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 5: bracket as well. So I'm gonna stick with Duke. But

2096
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 5: I honestly, I feel like it's kind of a toss up.

2097
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 5: It's just one of those teams is just gonna make

2098
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 5: one or two more plays and that's gonna be the difference.

2099
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 5: I don't think anybody is runner away from anybody in

2100
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:27,880
Speaker 5: that game.

2101
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's actually funny because I was the same way

2102
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:35,080
Speaker 3: as I actually felt better about Duke beating Saint John's

2103
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 3: after watching them through two games of the tournament, more

2104
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:41,679
Speaker 3: so with the way Saint John's barely survived Kansas. Great game,

2105
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 3: but I stuck with Saint John's not feeling great about it.

2106
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:45,639
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2107
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 3: Why, and I'm I'm not saying this from a bias perspective.

2108
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 3: I really something about Duke. You know three you know,

2109
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 3: the TCU game was a blowout, but it was close

2110
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 3: in the second half, and I don't know, I just

2111
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 3: I have a really do feel like Yukon is gonna

2112
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 3: win that game. Maybe I'm just totally biased. I don't know,

2113
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 3: but I actually do have Yukon winning that game. And

2114
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:09,639
Speaker 3: I did, by the way, pick Saint John's to beat

2115
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 3: Duke in the Sweet sixteen. And I actually had Saint

2116
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:15,439
Speaker 3: John's over Michigan State in the Elite eight in my bracket.

2117
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:18,680
Speaker 3: So this is not some bracket preservation thing. And this

2118
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 3: is just not some I blindly pick Yukon every time

2119
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 3: I see them in a bracket thing. I had them

2120
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:26,200
Speaker 3: losing to Michigan State in my bracket. Tell you what, Jamart,

2121
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 3: there's more college hoops. We'll get to some UNC stuff,

2122
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:31,680
Speaker 3: some will wait stuff. We'll do all that in just

2123
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:34,679
Speaker 3: a moment. But before we do it, let's go ahead

2124
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 3: and final time this evening on our show, let's get

2125
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:37,799
Speaker 3: to Steve Disagarette. What's trending.

2126
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 2: The Arizona Wildcats are now thirty six and two after

2127
01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:45,280
Speaker 2: winning the West Region Final over Produce seventy nine sixty four.

2128
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 2: Arizona was down seven at the half. Illinois took the

2129
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:52,680
Speaker 2: South Region final seventy one fifty nine over Iowa. Hawkeys

2130
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 2: were up twelve to early. Two other regional finals on Sunday.

2131
01:47:56,800 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 2: Women's regional finals start Sunday NBA. His late game went

2132
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:03,599
Speaker 2: to Phoenix one thirty four to one oh nine over Utah,

2133
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:06,760
Speaker 2: which has lost five straight. Memphis ended a five game

2134
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 2: losing streak, edging Chicago won twenty five one twenty four.

2135
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:14,839
Speaker 2: Atlanta has won fifteen of seventeen. After beating Sacramento, Spurs

2136
01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:17,120
Speaker 2: won their eighth in a row. Wins for Detroit and

2137
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 2: for Philadelphia, which ed Charlotte won eighteen one fourteen. Tyrese

2138
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 2: Maxi back in the Philly lineup after missing ten games

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Speaker 2: with a finger injury. He had twenty six points the Lakers.

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01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:30,240
Speaker 2: Luka Doncic is suspended for Monday's game after getting his

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01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 2: sixteen technical of the season. NHL wins for Carolina and Winnipeg.

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Speaker 2: For Montreal and Buffalo wanted a shootout over Seattle three

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Speaker 2: to two. In Major League Baseball, Cleveland took the late

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Speaker 2: game in ten innings, winning at Seattle six to five

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01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 2: for the Guardians. Chased the Lauter hit his fourth homer

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Speaker 2: of the week. This is four in only three career

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Speaker 2: regular season games. He played postseason last year, but never

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Speaker 2: regular season until this week. Trevor Story, a decade ago,

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Speaker 2: had started his career with homers in his four homers

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Speaker 2: totally in his first four games. The Dodgers one of

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Speaker 2: the rare teams to start by winning their first three

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Speaker 2: games of the season. Despite trailing by multiple runs in

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Speaker 2: each of those three games, they came back to beat

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Speaker 2: Arizona again tonight in LA three to two on a

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Speaker 2: two run homer bottom of the eighth by Will Smith,

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01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 2: the save to Edwin Diaz. Also, the Giants again were

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Speaker 2: beaten by the Yankees three to one Tonight's final. That

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01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:29,680
Speaker 2: was the Fox TV game for most Aaron Judge with

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Speaker 2: a solo homer. Yanks had shut him out in the

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Speaker 2: first two games. In fact, Friday, the Giants offense was

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Speaker 2: held to one hit. So in the opening series, Giants

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01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:41,599
Speaker 2: got outscored by the Yankees thirteen and one at home.

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Speaker 2: So while the Dodgers are three to zero, the rest

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Speaker 2: of that division is one to ten, including the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Padres got on the scoreboard in the standings three not

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Speaker 2: think the final over Detroit Tonight, Tigers offense held the

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Speaker 2: two hits. Atlanta with six runs in the bottom of

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Speaker 2: the ninth, beat Kansas City six to two, game winning

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Speaker 2: Grand Slam to Dominic Smith. Home wins for Miami and Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: Home wins for Houston and for the Mats, who got

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Speaker 2: a three run homer in the eleventh from Luis Robert

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01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:10,440
Speaker 2: and beat Pittsburgh four to two. The Pirates left seventeen

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Speaker 2: men on base in a game that was scoreless through

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Speaker 2: nine innings. Cincinnati edge Boston in eleven, six to five.

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Speaker 2: The Red Sox had hit a solo homer top of

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Speaker 2: the ninth to tie it. Texas won in ten innings

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Speaker 2: at Philadelphia at five to four. Starting pitcher Jacob de

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Speaker 2: Gram of the Rangers was scratched with nex stiffness. Wins

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Speaker 2: for the Cubs and the Twins. Cardinals won in ten

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01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 2: over Tampa Bay sixty five, and Toronto beat the A's

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01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:36,599
Speaker 2: eight to seven in eleven innings. The Blue Jays scored

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Speaker 2: two runs in the eighth, one in the ninth, one

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Speaker 2: in the tenth, and finally won in the eleventh to win.

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Speaker 2: New Toronto starter Dylan Ceaze no decision, but did have

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Speaker 2: twelve strikeouts in five and a third inning. Gary Woodland

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01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 2: leads the Houston opened by one stroke. He was up

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01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:54,839
Speaker 2: three to start Saturday. Spring football in the UFL started

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01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:57,840
Speaker 2: Friday night on Fox TV with a Birmingham win, and

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01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:02,559
Speaker 2: then Saturday Dallas beat Houston thirty six. Seventeen. Miami opened

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01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 2: women's tennis final to number one Arena Sabalanca, beating Coco

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01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 2: Goff in three sets. US men's soccer lost its World

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01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:13,799
Speaker 2: Cup tune up five to two in Atlanta against Belgium. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: the women's league, the NWSL had expansion. Denver gets sixty

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01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:21,759
Speaker 2: three thousand fans at its debut, a scoreless tie against Washington.

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Speaker 2: That league average is ten thousand fans per game. Justin

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01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:28,280
Speaker 2: Algeyer took the O'Reilly Race as it's known now, his

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Speaker 2: third victory in that series this year and coming up

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Speaker 2: on FS one NASCAR Sunday from Martinsville, Virginia, three thirty

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Speaker 2: pm Eastern Time. Denny Amlin earned the poll after this weekend.

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Speaker 2: The Cup series is off Easter weekend.

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Speaker 4: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve de Sager Seger,

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Speaker 4: have a great evening.

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Speaker 3: Be back with the U the champ, the West Regional Champ,

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01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:54,120
Speaker 3: Arnie Spanier and Chris Plank as well as of course

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01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:57,720
Speaker 3: he from Slam and Mark Willard. We appreciate you. Try

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01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:00,560
Speaker 3: to survive Arnie Spanner tomorrow, do your best be you know,

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01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:02,280
Speaker 3: he doesn't get very many wins like this.

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Speaker 2: So and you're back Monday.

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Speaker 3: I will be back Monday with Mike Carmon. Yes I'm

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01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:09,759
Speaker 3: very excited about that. And yes so yes, Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: Radio Aer towards Jason Martin will come back, wrap the show.

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01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 3: Plenty more college hoops, A little will wait Little North

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01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:17,719
Speaker 3: Carolina that's all next.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio air towards Jason Martin.

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01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:44,640
Speaker 3: We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:47,559
Speaker 4: One segment left before we hit it over to Bernie Fredo.

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01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 3: Cannot wait to hear what Bernie Freddo has to say

2222
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:53,880
Speaker 3: about a busy week in college hoops. By the way,

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01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:55,559
Speaker 3: you know Bernie will have some good stuff on the

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01:52:55,600 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 3: Michigan Tennessee game specifically, mister Michigan lived in Michigan, knows

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01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 3: that program as well as anybody. Cannot wait to hear

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Speaker 3: what Bernie Fratto has to say in just fourteen minutes

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01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:13,840
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Speaker 3: Sports Radio weekends. Wherever you get your podcast, you'll find

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Speaker 3: today's show right after we get off air, Jaymark, Let's

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01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:40,200
Speaker 3: talk about a few other things in the world to

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01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 3: college hoops. One, they say you can't go home unless

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01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:49,439
Speaker 3: you're Will Wade, the former LSU head coach, is now

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01:53:49,479 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 3: the current LSU head coach.

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Speaker 4: He was at nc State for a grand total of

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Speaker 4: one year.

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Speaker 3: Remember he was fired in twenty twenty two at LSU

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01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:02,559
Speaker 3: essentially for doing an before nil was allowed. Took a

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01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,679
Speaker 3: year off, ended up at McNee State for two years

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01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:08,120
Speaker 3: where he led them to back to back NCAA tournaments,

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01:54:08,479 --> 01:54:10,840
Speaker 3: goes to NC State for one year, and now he

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01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:14,200
Speaker 3: is headed back to LSU as the head coach.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not surprised at this point. It's like,

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Speaker 5: I mean, what he did is now legal. He just

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Speaker 5: did it before it was legal, and he did it

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Speaker 5: blatantly and he got caught. You know, I went to

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Speaker 5: n c State for a few years. I kind of

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01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:33,000
Speaker 5: rolled my eyes at this. I know NC State feels,

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01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:36,240
Speaker 5: you know, kind of betrayed, but it's kind of nature

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Speaker 5: of college sports. I don't think that Will Wade is

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Speaker 5: necessarily a lifer anywhere. Doesn't seem like it, like maybe

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Speaker 5: he's gonna go to LSU and that's just where he wanted.

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01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:49,000
Speaker 5: He never wanted to leave. He's gonna go back there

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01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 5: and he's gonna try to do what he did before.

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Speaker 5: But man, LSU just they are fine playing the villain though,

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01:54:57,920 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 5: like the way that they do what they do. I

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01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 5: mean Laye Kiffin during the season, like right during the

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Speaker 5: playoff run, and then you go get Will Wade and

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Speaker 5: snatch him after one year and just bring him back down.

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Speaker 5: It's like, now that everything's kind of above board that

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Speaker 5: he was doing, let's just bring him back. Like they're

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01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:17,720
Speaker 5: real easy to dislike at this point. If you want

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Speaker 5: somebody to go out there and say, yeah, they're kind

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01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 5: of villainous, they're sort of annoying and irritating. LSU probably

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01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 5: fits that bill. But you know, I mean, this is

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Speaker 5: kind of the nature of where we are with college sports.

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Speaker 5: Then you look at Will Wade and it's he had

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Speaker 5: success there, he liked it there, didn't want to leave,

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01:55:34,480 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 5: and now he's just like, I mean, I wasn't doing

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Speaker 5: anything wrong or what I was doing there that you know,

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01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:41,480
Speaker 5: brought us a lot of success. Guess what I can

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01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 5: now do that above board, it's not going to cause

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01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:46,680
Speaker 5: us any trouble anymore, So why don't you bring me

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Speaker 5: back and let's go win a championship. And I mean

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Speaker 5: that's an easy sell because he had so much success there.

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01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 5: So I don't know, it's twenty twenty six college athletics.

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01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:59,160
Speaker 5: That's at this point. I don't know that you can

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Speaker 5: be particularly miffed about anything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have a ton to add. Yeah, I

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01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:09,480
Speaker 3: don't have a ton to add. You know the listen,

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Speaker 3: I think he certainly could have handled you know, it's tough,

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01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:16,320
Speaker 3: Like he clearly could have handled things better on the

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01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 3: way out at NC State. But it's also like there

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01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:23,400
Speaker 3: was no way that it wasn't going to be clunky

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01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 3: when you leave anywhere after one year, and so, like,

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01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 3: you know, he had a media availability after the NCAA tournament.

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01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:33,200
Speaker 3: This is the worst team that we'll ever have here.

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01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:36,120
Speaker 3: You know, kind of got mad at the questioning as

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01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:38,120
Speaker 3: as the questioning kind of ramped up over the last

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01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:42,520
Speaker 3: couple of months. But yeah, I mean, listen, he wanted

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01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 3: to go back. I was telling somebody, you know, just

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01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:49,840
Speaker 3: a minute ago. Like the ad Remember he was out

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01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:52,320
Speaker 3: of basketball for a year. He gets hired at McNees

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01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 3: and the ad who fired him at LSU was fired

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Speaker 3: ironically and maybe not ironically, but as part of the

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01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 3: Brian Kelly stuff, and the ad who hired him at

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Speaker 3: McNee state the president who hired him at McNee state

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01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 3: when he was out of coaching, are now both at LSU,

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01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:15,120
Speaker 3: and so there's a comfort level there. He's not going

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Speaker 3: back to the place that he left, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I think he probably say that he feels like he

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01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:22,640
Speaker 3: owes them a debt of gratitude. I'll be curious, though,

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Speaker 3: you know, because I do think like and I think

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01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:27,680
Speaker 3: he's a really good I know he's a really good coach,

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01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:33,800
Speaker 3: but the game has changed. Everybody's paying people now, and

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01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:36,600
Speaker 3: you know, I'm just curious if he can get the

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Speaker 3: quality of players that he did the first time around

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Speaker 3: at LSU. The other thing, too, the SEC is just

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01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 3: much better. There's better coaching across the board. I think

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01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 3: he's too good to be a failure anywhere. But obviously

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01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:50,960
Speaker 3: he won an SEC regular season title. I believe it

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01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:54,360
Speaker 3: was four straight NCAA tournaments outside of the one COVID

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01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:56,120
Speaker 3: year where there was no NCAA tournament. So I'll be

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01:57:56,160 --> 01:57:58,760
Speaker 3: curious to see j Martin. You mentioned you went to

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Speaker 3: NC State a lot of time on tobacco Road. Just

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01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:07,040
Speaker 3: curious for your perspective on the North Carolina job. You know,

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01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:11,200
Speaker 3: there's Tommy Lloyd buzz, there's Billy Donovan buzz, a lot

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01:58:11,240 --> 01:58:13,320
Speaker 3: of you know, I'll say this really quickly on Tommy Lloyd,

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01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:15,440
Speaker 3: A lot of the coaches that have been linked to

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01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:19,600
Speaker 3: the job were very adamant about a lack of interest,

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Speaker 3: whether it was tj Otselberger, Ben McCollum from Iowa, even

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01:58:24,720 --> 01:58:27,720
Speaker 3: Natoates I believe actually may have him and the ad

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01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:30,200
Speaker 3: had some sort of public announcement today. It didn't sound

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Speaker 3: like it was a definitive like extension. Tommy Lloyd was

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01:58:34,240 --> 01:58:38,160
Speaker 3: a little bit noncommittal, but curious for your perspective on

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01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:38,640
Speaker 3: that job.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, there are a lot of guys that

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01:58:44,720 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 5: you want that are still coaching, or are in really

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01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:52,680
Speaker 5: good situations, or have a really high buyouts or whatever

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01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:55,920
Speaker 5: like that, and you know they're going to extend their guys.

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01:58:55,960 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 5: I think Oates said, why would I leave? I think

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01:58:58,200 --> 01:58:59,640
Speaker 5: that was one of the things that I heard that

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01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:01,880
Speaker 5: he said. And you look at some of the spots.

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Speaker 5: The one thing you'd know if you go to Carolina

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01:59:04,000 --> 01:59:08,280
Speaker 5: is the pressure is on you also. I mean, you

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01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:11,240
Speaker 5: understand the tradition, but you understand what you're walking into,

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01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:13,120
Speaker 5: and you know that there are a lot of Carolina

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01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:16,680
Speaker 5: alumni that automatically don't like it if you're not a

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01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:20,879
Speaker 5: Carolina person. Interesting more than any other school in the country,

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01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:23,480
Speaker 5: they are that way. I mean I even heard Kenny

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01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:25,520
Speaker 5: Smith saying that on the broadcast a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 5: He's like, whoever goes to Carolina, he needs to want it.

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Speaker 5: He wants to that person needs to want to die

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Speaker 5: at Carolina. And the thing that's made us different is that,

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Speaker 5: you know, there's all the legacy and all this on

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Speaker 5: the assistant coaches and all this other stuff, and it's

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Speaker 5: just like, yeah, man, it's about time y'all again, have

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Speaker 5: to let that go. It doesn't mean that you there

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Speaker 5: are not guys that have come through there, Lebo King Rice,

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Speaker 5: you know, all these guys that do have some past

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Speaker 5: head coaching experience that are out there and all this,

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Speaker 5: but like, you got to go get a real dude

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Speaker 5: at this point because what you have been and the

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Speaker 5: tradition of Norse Carolina is not going to be enough

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Speaker 5: in this era of nil you gotta find a guy

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Speaker 5: that fully understands what's going on. You know, Hubert Davis

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Speaker 5: was slow to bring in a general manager and kind

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Speaker 5: of advance in that way so that they fell behind

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Speaker 5: a little bit. From that perspective, they need an A

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Speaker 5: plus higher here and they don't need to get caught

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Speaker 5: up in this idea that that person needs to bleed

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Speaker 5: tar heel blue for his entire life, because that's just

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Speaker 5: not realistic.

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Speaker 3: He curious to see if by the time we come

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Speaker 3: on air next that we you know, if they have

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Speaker 3: a coach, because again, some of the guys they want

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Speaker 3: may still be coaching in the tournament. Tommy Lloyd, we

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Speaker 3: will see if Dusty May takes care of business. On Sunday,

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Speaker 3: we gotta get out of here. Wet I thank the crew,

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Speaker 3: Mary Mack on the board, Brandon Deutsch, our producer, Steve Disager,

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Speaker 3: from my partner Jason Martin, I'm er Torres. Make sure

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Speaker 3: to download the podcast if you missed it. Arnie Spanier

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Speaker 3: joined us to recap Arizona's trip to the Final four.

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Speaker 3: We Gotta go, but coming up next, Bernie Freddo off

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Speaker 3: the Bernie Friddo show has plenty for you.

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Speaker 6: This is