1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Calf I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the Ihart Radio app. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: We were detoured a bit the last hour of Friday 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: show in and around the moist line. We were following 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: a pretty crazy police chase, and we now know over 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: the weekend a lot more about what we were dealing with. 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: This is the guy that ended up carjacking a pickup 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: truck and driving incredibly recklessly for many miles, sometimes crossing 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: into the oncoming lanes, of course using the shoulder. But 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: everybody noticed in every story on this thing that happened 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: Friday that he did slow down and wait a moment 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: for students passing through a crosswalk along one of it. 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: In other words, he didn't try to just barrel through 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: the crosswalk. He did slow up and he waited because 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 1: a bunch of students who were crossing with the light 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: were busy in the crosswalk getting across the way. He 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: could have tried to push through them and maybe gotten 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: them to spread out for him, but he waited. If 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: he had up the dosage on whatever drugs he was 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: flying high on, about to run them all down, yeah, 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: I think the adrenaline gets going with these guys once 22 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: that they get so worked up. Anyway, what we were 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: dealing with is the forty forty four year old guy 24 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: by the name of Benjamin Gonzalez, who from one of 25 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: the photos taken the picture of the story I'm looking 26 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: at it looks like he's got a man bun as 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: he ran from the car afterward. Finally, that's embarrassing. Man 28 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: buns are one of the most embarrassing things a man 29 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: can have. It really is if you're going to be 30 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: some kind of log hair freak where it proudly lad 31 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: it flapping the police but breeze but tying it up 32 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: like a in a bun. That is just sad. It 33 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: really is the saddest look whenever I see a man 34 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: bun on a guy. Oh, I can think of it 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: as a loser. Guy's just a loser. So here is 36 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: what unfolded and kind of the complete story. Ontario Police 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: notified Corona Police about a pursuit and a hit and 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: run collision at a curtain Chino. Do you get all that? 39 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: That's three different places, Ontario, Corona, Gino. With the assistance 40 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: of the Ontario Police Department helicopter, Corona Police located this 41 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: guy in his vehicle and trying to conduct the traffic stop. 42 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: This is back in Corona on Ontario Avenue. However, they 43 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: thought because he was driving dangerously, they didn't actually pursue 44 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: the vehicle. So a riverside police helicopter arrived and was 45 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: watching this guy from overhead. He drove into a shell 46 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: gas station parking lot in Corona, and he entered the 47 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: food mart with a rifle. Upon exiting the food mart, 48 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: he confronted a thirty seven year old Corona resident demand 49 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: and carjacked his pickup truck. Suspect fired at least one 50 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: rifle round during the confrontation. The suspect then people police 51 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: on the law. This is where we picked it up 52 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: to suspect. I don't think he's a suspect. I think 53 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: he actually did all this. I saw it with my 54 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: own eyes. So it started in Corona, then came into 55 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: Orange County in Los Angeles County more than an hour 56 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: and as I said, he was driving on the wrong 57 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: sides of the road. He made his way through Orange 58 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: County before heading north. It ended up in the Harbor 59 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: City area of la where the pickup truck slammed into 60 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: a light pole that he apparently wouldn't start. He couldn't 61 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: move it, but he jumped down about out, and he 62 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: jumped out and tried to run. Oh, he tried to 63 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: carjack another vehicle. And it turns out this guy has 64 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: quote a violent criminal history. Has anybody fleshed out what 65 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: the violent criminal history is? The age of forty four? 66 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: He's not slowing down. Looks like he's in the prime 67 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: of his life. Now, then, what are we telling people? 68 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 1: Every almost every show, They're closing all the prisons, They're 69 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: finding new ways to reduce sentences. These are the types 70 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: of people that are going to be out there probably 71 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: in years. Asked, somebody with a long criminal record might 72 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: still be in prison today, but the prisons are emptying 73 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: at an unbelievable rate. What was that number there down 74 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: to ninety five thousand? What was the number a few 75 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: years ago? Hundred sixty? Look at that, No. Sixty is 76 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: at least sixty five thousand people who would probably still 77 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: be in prison that have been released in the last 78 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: couple of years. Yeah, about this guy surely would be. 79 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: But you know, why aren't they releasing the details? And 80 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: why isn't anybody in the idiot media demanded for the 81 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: details and getting the details. This should be public record. 82 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: Every bad thing this guy's ever done, going back at kindergarten, 83 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: it should be public record now because these legislators ought 84 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: to be indicted, the governor ought to be indicted for 85 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: letting a character like this loose. Yeah, that's the only 86 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: thing we don't know yet. And usually it takes the 87 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: reporter to dig around to find the details of this 88 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: guy's long criminal history. Nobody's probably somewhere in there. We'll 89 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: see something deal with a B one O nine or 90 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: Prop fifty seven, some other method or means, or put 91 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: this guy on the streets quicker, or some stupid plea 92 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: bargain he did bad. Oh, yeah, that's the worst one. 93 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: You're right, that's always underreported. The less and this is 94 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: that you can't our parts are too crowded. So we 95 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: have to negotiate with these people in order to get 96 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: the quicker justice. No excuses, no excuses accepted. If this 97 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: guy has a bad history, then he should be in prison. 98 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear anybody's reason anymore. Put him 99 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: in prison, have the trial, go for the conviction, get 100 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: the full sentence, and the full sentence should be imposed 101 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: and no parole and no time off for anything. That's 102 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: that is the new system that needs to be inactive, 103 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: because then guys like this won't be running around. Do 104 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: you want the guy running around or not? Would life 105 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: be better if this guy was in prison for the 106 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: rest of his life? Of course it would be, So 107 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: why not do it? This guy, if you remember, was 108 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: firing his gun right through the windshield of the car. 109 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: Remember that. I'm surprised if this ended. Obviously the car 110 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't run, so we got out. It ran, but I 111 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: thought he would still have the gun with them. I 112 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: think it just tackled them in hog tiem. I think 113 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: this guy was jacked up in some I know what. 114 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm excused them with drugs. I think lifetime criminals are 115 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: lifetime criminals. It's it's not it's not excusing it. It's 116 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: the cause of the of the behavior. Like this guy's 117 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: behavior is really even outside most car chase situations, right, 118 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: I mean, when you when you're when you're firing a 119 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: weapon through your own window, When when you're driving on 120 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: the wrong side of the road, when you're crossing diagonally 121 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: at a traffic light intersection, what would cause your your 122 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: brain to do that and and not have the normal 123 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: break on your impulses that all of us have. Well, 124 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's too many drugs, all right. I 125 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: think it's just people that they're gang members or whatever. 126 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: They find this to be cool. I'm gonna I'm gonna 127 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: outrun the police here, and the adrenaline gets pumping and 128 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: they think that they're in some sort of a movie 129 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: situation here. I was just trying to see if there 130 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: was any update on this criminal history. But most of 131 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: these stories are still two days old because all the 132 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: reporters are lazy. There's no follow up done. You know 133 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: these uh, you could have bots writing these stories. Maybe 134 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: bots are writing these stories. It was the Corona Police 135 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: Department that put out the violent criminal history line. So, 136 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: and by the way, Gonzalez is just identified as of 137 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: Los Angeles County. Well that's pretty broad. One of the 138 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: stories does say might be from the city of La 139 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: but some are just saying La County. Why is it 140 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: hard to get an address or is he a homeless? God, 141 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: That's what I say. So recently released from president Probably 142 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: they don't give out any personal details about these these 143 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: crazies anymore. You don't get anything. Why Why is that 144 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: because it would would it stigmatize him in some way? Yeah? 145 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: This is nuts? All right? We got war coming up 146 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: on the John and Ken Show, KFI AM six forty. 147 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to 148 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: John and Ken on demand from KFI AM six forty. 149 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: We'll be checking in and what's going on in the 150 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: San Bernardino Mountain communities after another long weekend. People are 151 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: still frustrated, trying to dig out, get some more supplies, 152 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: get help with any situation they got going on. We'll 153 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: be talking to Blake Trolley after the news at two 154 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: o'clock for an update on what's going on up there. 155 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: Also over the weekend, while Dippity Doo was out of 156 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: the state, he came back yesterday. He declared an emergency 157 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: over these storms and then left on some personal trip. 158 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: Florida Governor run to Santis was here in southern California 159 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: and he was acting governor over the weekend. That's nice. 160 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: What did he do anything? Did he closed? They reopen 161 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: all the prisons and change all the year long? He 162 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: got snowblowers and snow plays into It's a lake arrowhead, 163 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: really a Florida guy did that. Yeah, Florida guy. He's good. 164 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: He's good. Experience with snowplows in Florida. It's been coming. 165 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: We'll play some of the audio later on. He was 166 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: at the Ronald Reagan Library and he hasn't formally declared 167 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: he's running for president. That's the impression people get. And 168 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: I saw a story over the weekend, and I think 169 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: this gets a little overlooked because California, being mean as 170 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: it is, this incredibly blue state. The legislatures like two 171 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: thirds of war Democrats, all the state of white officials 172 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: or Democrats. There are five million Republican voters in California. 173 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: Five million there. That's a lot. When you when you 174 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: throw that over the whole country and you talk about 175 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: delegates to a convention, you get it. That's why it's important. 176 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: Oh they're still at the campaign here. Yeah, they're more 177 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: Republican voters in California than there are in most states. 178 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: It's to five million. That's the board of the population 179 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: of many states. And it's it's a big fundraising area too, 180 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: because there's many wealthy Republicans that live in California. So 181 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: this is not an insignificant place just because the Republicans 182 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: lose elections, doesn't mean that there isn't a lot of 183 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: Republican energy here that candidates need, right, and especially the 184 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: money that they need, right. And there'll be delegates for 185 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: the convention to be had, so they'll be making trips 186 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: out here. It just won't be as important. What they 187 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: might be doing is fishing for the primary. I think 188 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: in general election we probably won't be seeing so much 189 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: Republican candidate, but we got we've got the most Republican 190 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: delegates of any state in the Union, right, so you 191 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's huge to win the California primary, 192 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: all right. So we'll also get to that coming up 193 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: a bit later on. Uh, we're talking about violence and crime, 194 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: and the reason we are is because we point out 195 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: time and time again that because they've emptied the prisons 196 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: in the state of California, there's more of these people 197 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: on the streets. We know for sure that the guy 198 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: who ran on that long police chase last Friday after 199 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: cardracking a pickup truck has a long criminal history. He's 200 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: a great example of somebody who's out there that probably 201 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: should not be out there. We were doing this story 202 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: five or ten years ago, we wouldn't be talking about 203 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: a guy like that. Most likely, it was actually a 204 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: pretty violent weekend altogether. On Saturday, a twenty eight year 205 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: old man stabbed six people during an early morning melee 206 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: in downtown Los Angeles. Melee, that's the word I have here. 207 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: In the Channel four story they went with Emmy lay, 208 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: someone used the word melee. Sounds soft. It sounds like melee, 209 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: like a rugby scrum, right, We're just kind of pushing 210 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: each other and oh, buddy, looks there's a melee down 211 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: the block. To twelve in the morning, paramedics got a 212 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: report of a stabbing. This is West seventh Street. They 213 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: rushed to the scene just after two am. Apparently there 214 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: was a confrontation of two groups of people and this 215 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: one twenty eight year old man just began stabbing people. 216 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: So whether these were gangs that met up or there 217 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: was some other issue, would you want to would you 218 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: want to be on seventh Street in LA at two 219 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: in the morning on a Saturday. No, but you're you're 220 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: asking for a knife in the back. I know you'll 221 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: enjoy this little extra note I saw in one story. 222 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: They don't believe any homeless people were involved, because that's 223 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: the first thing I thought of in that area Los Angeles. 224 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: Was it some sort of a rage where a homeless 225 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: guy got in a fight over someone else, because it's 226 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: two in the morning, arguing over some property or this woman. 227 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: So these were housed people meleeing. I guess i'd have 228 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: said people meleeing. They were housed people, right, Yeah. And 229 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: then we had an even bigger story where two men 230 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: opened fire at a beach in San Pedro, place called 231 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: Royal Palms Beach. This also happened on Saturday night. In fact, 232 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: five men were still hospitalized after the shooting. There was 233 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: thirty to fifty people who were attending a small raggae 234 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: concert along the San Pedro Pedro Strand Saturday evening, and 235 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: again there was some sort of altercation with a group 236 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: of men who were barbecuing at the beach, and then 237 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: suddenly people started opening fire, opening fire to barbecue. I well, 238 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: it makes you wonder you never want I mean, we 239 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: talked about this with road rage. You just don't really 240 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: want to get in any kind of a physical or 241 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: verbal confrontation with anybody anymore, because if you don't know him, 242 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: they might have a gun. And that's what can happen. 243 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: There's also a lot of gang activity in San Pedro too, 244 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: There is a lot. Right. The victims ranged in age 245 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: from twenty to fifty. Two victims in critical condition, two 246 00:13:54,400 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: others in serious condition. What's her name? Began working quickly, 247 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: I guess because she's one of the big government people. There. 248 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: Your friend Jannis Han, and you have an LA City 249 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: council member, Tim mcgoscar. Yeah, he replaced Joe Kayo, right, 250 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: who were just lamenting this violence. And now I think 251 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna go with a curfew, but on the weekends 252 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: or something. Here's the thing, um they want. They want 253 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: an earlier closing time on the beach. This is what 254 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: they do instead of throwing bad guys in prison and 255 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: keeping them there. It's well, nobody can use the beach now, 256 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: everybody's got to go home. Now. That is exactly how 257 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: they do it. No, Jennis Han and what else? She said, 258 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: there's just too many guns. We just had the shooting 259 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: in Monterey Park and now we've had this and uh yeah, 260 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: she just focuses right again on the guns and keeping 261 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: the bad people where they belong in a prison. Yeah, 262 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: try this, put people away in prison for long sentences. 263 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: See what happens? What are we gonna lose here? I mean, 264 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: I cannot stand that they say the same damn stupid 265 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: thing every single incident that got exactly the same response. 266 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: Is no intelligence at all, just no no IQ at all. 267 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: Janis Han has a negative IQ. Put the bad guys 268 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: in prison, keep them there. Then there's nobody on the 269 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: beach to shoot. Then there's nobody carjacking cars and taking 270 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: people on freeway chases. Put them away, leave them there. 271 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: What do you care if they're in prison a long time? 272 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: Why does it bother you? What's it to you? Does 273 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: that understand? Why are you? Why are people upset if 274 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: bad guys are in prison a long time? I don't know. 275 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: I could see family members of the prisoners, Bitchen, but 276 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: I can't understand. You're right now many policians and writer 277 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: hacks who all they do is obsess about that there's 278 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: too many people in prison. Yeah, I have no interest 279 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: in the number of people in prison. I have a 280 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: huge interest in how many former prisoners are running around 281 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: committing violent crimes. But if you told me there were 282 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: ten thousand people in prison, five hundred and ten thousand people, 283 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: I'd say Hey, whatever, if they did the crime, they 284 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: got caught, fine, put them away. Who have to build 285 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: fifty more prisons or a thousand more prisons, Fine, go 286 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: do it whatever it takes. I just want to be 287 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: able to walk the street at night, go to the beach, 288 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: go to a concert, right, and now worry about getting 289 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: stabbed by some lunatic who's already spun through the system 290 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: a dozen times. What is with people's interest in how meant? 291 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: What do you care what happens to these people? Let 292 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: them rot in prison. They already made their choices. They 293 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: can't control their impulses. These guys got away, they drove 294 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: off in a silver for Sedan, and the last update 295 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: they have I don't think they've been caught yet, so 296 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: you're right. The response instead was let's just prevent people 297 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: from gathering like this and we'll just close the beach, 298 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: no more barbecues, and then we'll find a way and 299 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: you know what, you know what? Han also said, Janet Han, 300 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: I did see this quote too, and it's so sad 301 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: because not too far away from there, we just had 302 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: a gun buyback day. She did not say that she did. Yeah, 303 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: she actually said that, Yeah, they did. They had one 304 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: of those events. Oh, what a foolish person. So you see, 305 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: if the guys in the silver Sedana just stopped off 306 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: at the gun buybacks, right, they turned in their guns 307 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: for whatever, they give you a gift card or something, 308 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been possessing the guns to shoot people 309 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: at the beach. Would send petros. Yeah, it's kind of 310 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 1: the logic that that's so sad. Mister psycho criminal didn't 311 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: bring his gun to gun buyback day so he could 312 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: get a gift certificate. But about their buybacks, it's just 313 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: the old rusty guns, and it's not like gang members. 314 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: They're walking up there with their like this model seven yeah, 315 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: oh my a R fifteen to another one. That escapes me. 316 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: This obsession with gun buybacks. Why do look at that. 317 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: We just removed fifty guns from the community. Can I 318 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: see them? And he gave them together? We actually have 319 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: talking vegetables running this city. I just I'm out of words. 320 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm out of ways to describe this. This can't possibly 321 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: get stupider than Janis had say. Oh we had a 322 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: good bye back. Get out of here, all right, We've 323 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: got more coming up. John and Ken show KF I 324 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: am six forty. We're live everywhere in the Iard Radio Act. 325 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf 326 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: I AM six forty. Tomorrow finally begins the trial of 327 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: the disgraced sidelined city councilman Mark Ridley. Thomas. Oh good, 328 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: this story is unbelievable. He has raised over a million 329 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: and a half dollars for donors to pay his pricey lawyers. 330 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: I want to read you one quote from Fred Rosen, 331 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: the four CEO of Ticketmaster. They have their own problems, 332 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: don't think. Yeah, yeah, look at some of these companies 333 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: that donate money to him. He pitched in four thousand, 334 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars, and he told the El Segundo Times, 335 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: I don't know the facts. I don't want to know 336 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: the facts. He's a friend. Then you stand by your 337 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: friends when they have issues. MAC several people. Thomas Saffron, 338 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: an affordable housing developer in Brentwood. Oh, well, they gave 339 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: sixty six hundred dollars. Same thing. I don't know the 340 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: details of what's going on, but he's been he added, 341 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: I think the world of him. Where is the affordable 342 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: housing in Brentwood? What? H yeah? Really? What development is that? 343 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: Exactly was that part of the state law that they 344 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: have to start building. I don't know. That's that's news 345 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: to me. Uh well. The long list of donors in 346 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: this story include, oh, my gosh, he disgraced former Dodgers 347 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: owner Frank McCourt, who gave twenty five grand. Frank mccoort 348 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: just hate Los Angeles. I mean he almost destroyed the 349 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: doctor parking lots. Yeah, mister parking lot, how much destroys 350 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. And then he's donating money to this obvious cruck. 351 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: I mean, let's remember that Ridley Thomas was sending bribes 352 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: to the dean of the USC School of Social Work, 353 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: Marilyn Flynn is her name, and she pled guilty. Yeah, 354 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: she played guilty. She admitted that. Uh yeah, Ridley Thomas 355 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: gave her stuff. Now, this happened when he was on 356 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: the La County Board of Supervisors. Is the allegation they 357 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: steered He helped steer contracts to USC Social Work School 358 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: and exchange for a bunch of benefits to his dud son, 359 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: Sebastian Ridley Thoms. Yes, it was. It was county tax 360 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: money that he used to bribe the dean of the 361 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: Social Work school and all to pump up his his 362 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: dud loser's son. I mean, and you give money to that. 363 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: Frank McCourt apparently what's nut very pricy lawyers, some of 364 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: them are coming from San Francisco because they work for 365 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: as much as a thousand dollars in hours. He's very guilty. 366 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: That's why he's already spent money, he's already borrowed money. 367 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: And of course again he's not being paid. He's suspended 368 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: from the Los Angeles City Council. I mean, the argument was, well, 369 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: he's not accused of these crimes while I'm serving on 370 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: the council, so he should still be a member of 371 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: the council. He was on the Board of Supervisors, as 372 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: the claim here, but that didn't hold up, or at 373 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: least not so far. And he's not getting paid. It 374 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: also says unless he resigns, he can't take some other 375 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: paid position I guess in government. Unless he resigns, he 376 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: should be permanently kicked out of government. There's no question 377 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: he did this. Nineteen counts conspiracy, bribery, and fraud. And 378 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: then he gets to the best part of the story 379 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: of the more than sixty three thousand and I'll emphasize 380 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: the word here federal criminal cases. Again, the Feds are 381 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: coming after Ridley Thomas. Of the sixty three thousand that 382 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: resolved in twenty twenty one, more than ninety percent ended 383 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: in a guilty plea. So there you go, mister Ridley Thomas. 384 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: It seems pretty likely that you, like the rest of 385 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: the bums that they usually ensnare in these cases, are 386 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: not going to walk away from this one because because 387 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: the federal prosecutors are the best in the country. If 388 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: you're a star prosecutor, right you want to play in 389 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: the major leagues. You're a lawyer, you have a prosecutorial mindset, 390 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: you have the talents and the brain power. These guys 391 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: are really smart. They're much smarter than Ridley Thomas. There's 392 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: kind of a dumb crime he did, right he left. 393 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: He left so much evidence behind it, the paperwork and 394 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: all the communications with Flynn. But you can't go up again. 395 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: They and they only do it when they're absolutely sure 396 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: that they can get a conviction about the only thing 397 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: they can argue. And I don't even think this holds up. 398 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: But she pled guilty, so she knew she was bribe 399 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: and a politician they're gonna say, I didn't know this 400 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: was a bribe. I I just thought that my son 401 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: deserved some positions at USC and she helped get him in. 402 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: He got special treatment when you get special treatment again, 403 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: he was given free tuition, he was given some job 404 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: of the nonprofit there. There's given some sort of professorship 405 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: they have. They have a lot of evidence of them 406 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: communicating with each other. Because this deal has to be negotiated, 407 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: Flynn and Ridley Thomas have to decide what are the 408 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: terms of the deal, and whether it's in writing or 409 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: whether it was a series of phone calls, probably a 410 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: lot of emails. I'm sure maybe there's there's taped evidence 411 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 1: that the Feds had. But in any event, she's going 412 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: to explain when she testifies, if it goes that far. 413 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: When she testifies, she's going to say, here's how we communicated, 414 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: here's how we talked with It was by text, by email, 415 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: by phone, we were met in a coffee shop, whatever 416 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: it is. So there's no claiming I didn't know, because 417 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: these things don't happen randomly. Your your son doesn't just 418 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: randomly get a degree, randomly get a professor's ship. It's 419 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: not like he opened the mail, It's like, oh, look 420 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: what I want, Dad, I want a professorship at the USA. 421 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: They paid my tuition too, I got a free degree. 422 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: How'd that happened? Oh? They think that this defense team 423 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: he hired, which includes a Silicon Valley law firm called 424 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: dory Tangre, which represented Genetech and other biotech companies and 425 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: defeated no artists at trial for infringing on a skin 426 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: cancer treatment drug. They think this is a three to 427 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: five million dollars legal bill that markaer Lee Thomas will 428 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: ultimately face. And on top of the fact that if 429 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: you go to trial and you lose, you're probably gonna 430 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: get a longer prison term. And if you negotiated some 431 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: kind of plea deal, which is what Marilyn Flynn did, 432 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: He's got He's got one of the biggest egos of 433 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: anybody I've ever met in politics, though I think it's 434 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: a big part of this. He is a pompous, self 435 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: important lowheart. He really is, because I've met him a 436 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: few times and he actually puffs up like a bullfrog 437 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: as he gets full of himself. He loves to hear 438 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: himself talk. From what I understand, he was a big 439 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: bully on the Elle County Board of Supervisors. He'd love 440 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: to bully the other women on the supervisory board, and 441 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: they allowed him to bully them, big surprise. Some donors, 442 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: they're lobbyists, are affiliated with lobbyists. He's calling it an 443 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: all those political favors here, isn't he? Well, because these 444 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: are the people. Be back, You're right, because he is 445 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: very confident person. So I'll be back and I'll remember 446 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: you if you give to my defense fund. Is he 447 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: something like that? He's he has a big booming voice, 448 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 1: he's got a big belly like he's an imposing figure. 449 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: He's got a lot of self importance and Russian and 450 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: if anybody crosses him, he could always start shouting about racism. 451 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: And he's done that too in his career. So he's 452 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: he's he becomes bulletproof. Everybody's afraid to touch him because 453 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: he's so nasty and belligerent. And I can only remember 454 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: him being on the show once and I remember it 455 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: didn't go well. I don't remember what the topic was. 456 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: And of course he came in our radar big time 457 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: when he took over that seat on the Early County 458 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: Poot of Supervisors. Remember he renovated the whole office at 459 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: high cost. Yeah, that was a big deal. And remember 460 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 1: he start in. He's like a king. I'm coming in now, 461 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: and I'm going to show you that I'm more important. 462 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: You remember he started a protest movement against us. Oh yeah, 463 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: that's so long ago still yeah, yeah, yeah, because we 464 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: said that the Colisseum was in a crappy neighborhood back 465 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: when they were still trying to get an NFL team 466 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: in the coliseum. And so he actually claimed that calling 467 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 1: the Colisseum being in a crappy neighborhood was some kind 468 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: of racism. And then he organized a protest in front 469 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: of the radio station to chant hey, hey, ho hoo, 470 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: John and Kenn have got to go. That's what he did. 471 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: He's getting money from religious people or presiding bishop. He's 472 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: getting money from it's a lot of developers, developers, ministers, bureaucrats, 473 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: and lobbyists because in case he gets back into power, 474 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: they want him to grease the system so they can 475 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: build their buildings. Developers don't care, generally in this city 476 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: about right and wrong. They don't care how corrupt the 477 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: system is. They just want to play the game. What 478 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 1: does it take to get the building built because they 479 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: make so much money. Right, so in the budget it's 480 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: probably under miscellaneous or other expenses. Is the bribe money 481 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: is the money used to pay off politicians, either legally 482 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: or through campaign donations, or when they have special funds 483 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: like this, Right, he has a special fund now to 484 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: raise money for his defense, or they have some special 485 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: nonprofit that's actually a cover for a slush fund that 486 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: they used for their own personal enjoyment. All right, we 487 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: got more coming up again. We'll be checking on the 488 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: San Bernardino Mountain communities after two o'clocks. Apparently those people 489 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: are still very frustrated about being able to dig out 490 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: and get some more help. Johnny Ken kf I AM 491 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeart Radio app. 492 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KIM 493 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: sixty Bye. We'll be checking in after two o'clock with 494 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: reporter Blake Trolley on the San Bernardino Mountain people, who 495 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: of course have been snowed in for what's rapidly coming 496 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: up on two weeks. Some progress over the weekend, but 497 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: still a lot of frustrated people who are trying to 498 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: dig out and trying to get somewhere to get supplies 499 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: and get some semblance of a life back again. So 500 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: we'll get to that. Meanwhile, over the weekend, officials up 501 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: there did hold the news conference where they admitted that 502 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: they were not prepared for this and they did not 503 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: think it was going to be this much snow this 504 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: quickly that would indicate the community, so they didn't have 505 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: the equipment they needed to help dig out faster. All right, 506 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: So we'll talk about this after. They had many, many 507 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: issues with those statements, but we'll get to that later. 508 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: We present some audio now from the HBO television program 509 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: Bill Maher. It looks like eight is the eighty Bernie 510 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: Sanders eighty Oh, I think he's older than eighty. They 511 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: see Bernie two now age, let's eighty one, he would 512 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: be eighty two and September the eighth. I always mix 513 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: them up, Pelosi, I know it is like eighty two, 514 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: and Biden obviously is ad and I see and Sanders 515 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: is about to turn eighty two. He came on real 516 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: time with Bill Maher and we have one exchange would 517 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: help people talking. This is important, okay, because you know, 518 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: all our lives, we've heard about equality which should be 519 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: a quality of opportunity, and a few years ago the 520 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: woke scoundrels changed it to equity, and it confused people. 521 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: And equity is about equality of outcome, which is a 522 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: basic tenet of socialism or community. Fact, the way it's 523 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: described here, it's quite simple. You're right. Equality says individuals 524 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: or groups of people are given the same resources or opportunities, 525 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: but equity recognizes that each person has different circumstances and 526 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: allocates the exact resources and opportunity needed to reach an 527 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: equal outcome. Equal outcomes. So equity is more like the 528 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: quota thing, if you think of it that way, recognize it. It. 529 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: Some people are behind the eight ball in life and 530 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: they need extra help, but you end up with the 531 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: same result, no matter how how much talent you have 532 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: or education or skills or whatever else differentiates between somebody 533 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: who has more and somebody who has less. Right. So 534 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: for the woke people, the quality is not enough. We 535 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: need this thing called equity. And that's why you heard 536 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: Newsom carry on about that so much, especially during the pandemic. No, 537 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: it's it's it's communism, socialism, that's what that is. Well this, well, 538 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: if Bill Mars asking Bernie Sanders about these terms. And 539 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: here's what happened. Are we confusing equality of opportunity with 540 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: trying to guarantee equity and outcomes? Okay, that's interesting because 541 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: I think this word equity has come into the language 542 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: in the last few years, and before that we didn't 543 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: hear it a lot. And I think a lot of 544 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: people hear equity and they hear equality that it's the 545 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: same word, and it's not the same word and the 546 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: same concept. So how would you differentiate between equity and equality? Well, 547 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: equality we talk about. I don't know what the answer 548 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: to that is. Coping to think of it. You know, 549 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: equality is equality of opportunity. We live in a society. 550 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: We want all people right to have whatever color your skin. 551 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: And equity, I think is more guarantee of outcome, is 552 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: it not? Okay? So which do you come Which side 553 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: do you come down? Oh? Yeah, okay? No? No, yeah again. 554 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: Quality means that everyone gets to everyone gets the same treatment, 555 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: the same chances, the same resources. Equity means that everyone 556 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: gets what they need to succeed. You see the difference there. Now, 557 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: you know what's really what people say? We have to 558 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: make up a lot of the differences that are out there. 559 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: This is what's interesting about this is rarely has a 560 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: politician been asked to define the term right. And a 561 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: lot of these are slogans, silly slogans, a lot of them. 562 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: Politicians just repeat them over and over as buzzwords. They're 563 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: never challenged by reporters or in a debate setting to 564 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: explain what the hell they're talking about. Like Newsom uses 565 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: equity every five minutes, but nobody ever says, well, what 566 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: does that mean? What do you think it means? Even 567 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: I was confused, like a year ago. I was like, oh, 568 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: isn't that equality? Or you're right, it's just changed the 569 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: sh I thought it was like changing the tense of 570 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: the word you know or something. Yeah, yeah, No, So 571 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: this is the thing. When he has to say it 572 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: out loud, it sounds ridiculous, doesn't it. And even the 573 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,479 Speaker 1: Diet in the Wool socialist Bernie Sanders, even Bernie Sanders, 574 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: when he says it out loud, it's like, well, no, 575 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm for equality now. It's like equity is stupid, equity, 576 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: it's preposterous idea. Nobody is for equity other than activists 577 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: who end up getting paid to promote equity. It came 578 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: from the theory of social justice, which we've talked about socialism, communism. 579 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: There's nothing new, There are no new philosophies on how 580 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: people should live. It's all the same. He's a more 581 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: old time socialist. So I don't think he's quite on 582 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: this complete woke boat. I don't think he is. No. No, 583 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: but but that's why he chose equality, right, because but 584 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: he also chose it over equity, because he realizes equity 585 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: is absurd, it's never gonna happen, it's unfair, impractical, it's 586 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: just wrong. It's wrong morally right because sample of equity 587 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: is this idea that's hot right now, to give reparations 588 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: to everybody right for whatever aggrieving, which is wrong because 589 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: you're taking money from people who who didn't own slaves 590 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: and you're asking them to pay a penalty. And the 591 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: answers no to that. Right. But I mean, they got 592 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: a million ways to sell this nonsense, and it is 593 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: just nonsense. And it's because when was the last time 594 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: you heard anybody try to define it? That conversation, first 595 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: public conversation I've ever heard where somebody in power was 596 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: forced to define what the f they're talking about and 597 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 1: as soon as Bernie said it out loud, he realized 598 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: this sounds ridiculous, doesn't it. And of course he is 599 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: ridiculous because he's a socialist who's a multi millionaire with 600 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: three homes. So they're all I'm looking at an online 601 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: illustration of equality and equity. It's actually kind of funny 602 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: they used, like, I guess these guys who are trying 603 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: to get fruit off a tree, but one's got a 604 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: bigger ladder, you see, so he has like a slight advantage. 605 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: So while it may they may look equal, and being 606 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 1: able to reach the fruit, the guy with the taller 607 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: ladder can get more of the fruit, so we don't 608 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: have equity, you see, Yeah, right, exactly, Yeah, And the 609 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: explanation is kind of funny, of course that the guy 610 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: who has the taller ladder worked at three jobs and 611 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: was able to save money to buy the taller ladder. 612 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: The guy the smaller ladder waited for his government check 613 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: in the mailbox every week, wasn't enough for him to 614 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: get the big ladder. All right, when we return, we'll 615 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: be checking in with Blake Troley has been covering the 616 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: plights of the San Bernardino Mountain community people in their 617 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: efforts to dig out from all that snow. John and 618 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: Ken calf I AM six forty We're live everywhere the 619 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: i Heart Radio app and Debra mark lytton the twenty 620 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: four hour Calfine isram. Hey, you've been listening to the 621 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: John and Ken Show. You can always hear us live 622 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: on calf I AM sixty one pm to four pm 623 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: every Monday through Friday, and of course anytime on demand 624 00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: on the iHeart Radio app