1 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am like Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague Weston Hankoitz. We're coming to you 4 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: here from our studios at Lambeufield to preview this Sunday's 5 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: matchup West. It will be the Packers and the Jaguars 6 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: from Jacksonville. It's a noon Central Time kickoff. And looking 7 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: at this Jacksonville team, it's been I guess you'd just 8 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: say a strange season in a lot of ways for them. 9 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: They start out the year zero to four, but three 10 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: of those losses in that four game losing streak where 11 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: by five points or less. They lost by three to Miami, 12 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: by five to Cleveland, by four to Houston. So they 13 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: are zero and four out of the things are not 14 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: going well. But since then now they've gone two and 15 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: one with victories over the Colts and the Patriots, a 16 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: loss to the Chicago Bears in between. They've played their 17 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: last two games in London, so they were in London 18 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: for an extended period of time. Now they're coming back 19 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 1: home to Jacksonville to face the Packers, and they feel 20 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: like they've got some things going in the right direction, 21 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: but they still have a ways to go, obviously to 22 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: get to where they want to be. And I'm sure 23 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: that Jacksonville is looking at this game against the Packers 24 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: as a potential turning point to their season if they 25 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: can chalk up a win. 26 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a get back game in a lot of ways. 27 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: And end Listen, Mike, I'm gonna sit here with you. 28 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be real. I mean, there are some offensive 29 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: threats that I think the Packers have to be very 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: cognizant of in this matchup. Defensively, Jacksonville's kind of been 31 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: a train wreck for most of the season. They are 32 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: two and five for a reason. The New England Patriots 33 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: potentially could be the worst team in the National Football League. 34 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: What they did to them last week, especially being in 35 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: that second week in London, I anticipated that. I expected it. 36 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: The Trevor Lawrence has looked a lot better in these 37 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: last three four weeks. I think Tank Bigsby potentially gives 38 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: them an every down running back that they could potentially 39 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: ride in. Brian Thompson, Brian Thomas, excuse me, very dynamic. 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: Evan Ingram is back offensively A lot a lot there 41 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: for the Jaguars, depending on what happens defensively, It's hard 42 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: to find a lot of statistics that really jump off 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: the page. Positive in their fashion, in their manner, trebon 44 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: Walker's off to a good start. They do have some 45 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: playmakers there, but as a collective, they've really struggled. So 46 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: you're absolutely right. They were close in some of these losses. 47 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: They also just got completely blown out of the water 48 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: by Buffalo. 49 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: They really stand by the Bears in London quite frankly. 50 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say. I mean the Bears, 51 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: they took it to them. Yeah, they really struggled to 52 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: get things going against Chicago. So the Green mit Packers 53 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: is they have to take this team extremely serious. You 54 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: have to not look past them. But as much as 55 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: it's good to point out, and I think that's a 56 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: good message for the Florida mention this team, they could 57 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 2: easily be five and two when they're two and five, 58 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: the Jaguars are two and five, and while they are 59 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: coming off a win that if you flip that game 60 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: with the Bears, it would feel a lot differently too. 61 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: I Mean, there was a lot of conversations after that 62 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: lost to Chicago about exactly which direction that team may go. 63 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 64 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely, they responded appropriately. But at the same time, Packers 65 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: have won three games against the AFC South. I mean, 66 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: this is not the time to let one go. Yeah. 67 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely, you're looking to sweep that AFC division here. If 68 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: you're Green Bay looking at some of the numbers, Trevor Lawrence, 69 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: the former number one overall pick out of Clemson. He 70 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: has a ninety two point three passer rating this year, 71 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: which is not bad. But I think everybody has seen 72 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence play better at other times in his career 73 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: than he's playing this year. The one real positive for 74 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: him is that he's only thrown three interceptions this shit year. 75 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: He has been protecting the football maybe better than he 76 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: has at other points. 77 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: I think he was fourth or fifteen interceptions last season. Yeah, 78 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: So I mean for what he's been able to do 79 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: protecting it has been very critical. 80 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. You mentioned Tank Bigsby, the running back, and I 81 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: just have to say, I think this is the first 82 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: time in Packers' history that they are playing an opponent 83 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: with someone whose first name is Tank two weeks in 84 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: a row. 85 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to be throw that out there. I'd 86 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: have to ask cliff about the nineteen twenties. Maybe I 87 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 2: could see a tank callaway or something. 88 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: Like Minneapolis Marines or something had a couple of tanks 89 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: on their team. But Bigsby six point two yards per carry, 90 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: that's nothing to sneeze at with the workload that he's 91 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: been giving been given. Excuse me. And then Brian Thomas Junior, 92 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: the rookie wide receiver. I'm really stumbling over my words today. 93 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: Out of LSU, he's averaging seventeen point one yards per catch. 94 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: He is the big play guy. You mentioned. They get 95 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram back from injury, and that's a tight end 96 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: who likes to stretch the field and provides another weapon 97 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: certainly on offense there. But those are the numbers that 98 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: stick out to me, just the yards per carry for Bigsby, 99 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: the yards per catch for Thomas. Defensively, Treron Walker another 100 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: number one overall pick that the Jaguars have. He's got 101 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: six sacks this season. He really is the star and 102 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: the heart and soul of that defense. But a couple 103 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: of a couple of defensive statistics that will tell you 104 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: how much they are struggling. One is that opponents are 105 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: converting forty five percent of the time on third down. 106 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly where that ranks because I didn't 107 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: have time to look that up before we turn the 108 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: cameras on, but forty five percent allowing third down conversions 109 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: is terrible. Twenty sixth, twenty sixth, it's not good. The 110 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: other is that the defense has only taken the ball 111 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: away three times all season in seven games. They have 112 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: one interception, they have two fumble recovery. This is not 113 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: a defense that has done much to help the offense 114 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: at all, and I mentioned this on our three Things 115 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: video yesterday. Now, the Jaguars offensively don't give it away 116 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: a bunch. As I mentioned, Lawrence just has the three interception. 117 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 1: I believe they only have four loss fumbles. So seven 118 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: giveaways in seven games. That's pretty darn good. But they 119 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: only have three takeaways in seven games. If you're the Packers, 120 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: you're coming off of this, You're coming off of a 121 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: three giveaway game of your own. Where there needs to 122 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: be that added emphasis again on protecting the ball. It 123 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: really becomes paramount in this game because you can't you 124 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: can't turn the ball over to the Jaguars and sort 125 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: of let them break profile, right, because if this defense 126 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: for Jacksonville suddenly breaks profile, their team will look a 127 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: lot different and they put themselves in a much better 128 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: position to knock you all. 129 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: Very strange statistics defensively, because the other thing is, yeah, 130 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: they've really struggled on third downs, but they're six against 131 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: the run so far this season, and in yards per 132 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: game and even in yards per play is seventh at 133 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 2: four point one point five. Passing defense thirty first total 134 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: yards twenty seventh. They are the worst team in the 135 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: NFL in goal to go. They're the only team that 136 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: has yet to prevent a team from scoring a touchdown 137 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: once they enter the red zone, opponents converting at one 138 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: hundred percent clip in goal to go in red zone. 139 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: They're also thirty second seventy eight point two six. So 140 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: making sure I get those statistics right, it's been a grind. Yeah, 141 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: Now tough to dress it up a little bit for 142 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: the Jaguars offensively, I think they're doing some really good things. 143 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: I think the switch to Bigsby Travis Etn really had 144 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: struggled earlier this season. I know this because Travis Etn 145 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: was my RB two on my fantasy league and now 146 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: it's Tank Bigsby. Hashtag analysis. But Bigsby he has that 147 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: big run and he has that six point two yards 148 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 2: per clip. But last week he showed he could just 149 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: be a bellcow for them and carry the ball twenty 150 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: six times for one hundred and nineteen yards with nothing 151 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: longer than fourteen per carry, along with the two touchdowns. 152 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: Again using the caveat that New England has really struggled 153 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: in basically every phase this year. It was the Patriots, 154 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: but you still have to have something to hang your 155 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: hat on. When you talk about I think Trevor Lawrence 156 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: and the difference that he's made the last few weeks, 157 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: it's I think it's the fact that he hasn't had 158 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: to be Superman as often. I think he only threw 159 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: the ball maybe twenty or twenty one times in that 160 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: game against New England. The other thing is to Michael, 161 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: the receivers have to pick him up. You've seen there's 162 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: been low light after lowlight of receivers dropping passes in 163 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: the end zone that he has put on the money 164 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: and guys are just not making plays for him. And 165 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: it's guys that have made plays. Christian Kirk had a 166 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: lot of success with him last season. I mean, you 167 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: look at Gabe Davis, a guy that I've always been 168 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: very high on a down seialed threat. It isn't just 169 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: the Brian Thomas show. I mean, they have guys they 170 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: can turn to, but it just hasn't been working out 171 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 2: for them this season. So they definitely got that win 172 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: and they're gonna be feeling better about themselves. But I 173 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: think the green Bay Packers, this is a game where 174 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: if you turn, if you take the ball away, if 175 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: you can get back on that train here and you 176 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: can convert that into points, I think that sets up 177 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: Green Bay for a victory. Yeah. 178 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: A couple of other A couple of other things to 179 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: point out. One is that last week Jacksonville had a 180 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: punt return the link to the field ninety six yards 181 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. That was kind of the play really 182 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: that broke New England's back as the Jaguars were coming 183 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: back from an early ten to nothing deficit. I think 184 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: they scored like twenty five straight points before New England 185 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: scored again. And within that run of twenty five straight 186 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: points was a ninety six yard punt return for a touchdown. 187 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: So that's something Rich Bassachi and crew. They need to 188 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: be on their p's and q's with that kind of 189 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: a threat. Also, statistically, I noticed in the first quarter 190 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: the Jaguars have been outscored forty one to twenty and 191 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter they've been outscored sixty nine to 192 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: thirty three. So first order, last quarter, the opponents have 193 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: more than double their point total through the first seven games. 194 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: This is not a team that starts games well. This 195 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: is not a team that finishes games well. And it's 196 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: one of the games where I look at it again, 197 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: I talked about sort of don't let them break profile 198 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: on defense and start taking the ball away. You want 199 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: the Jaguars to just be the Jaguars right, to keep 200 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: them where they are. And that's where really this game 201 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: And we'll get into maybe some more specific keys to 202 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: victory in a moment, but this is where this is 203 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: the kind of game that this is a lot more 204 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: about the Green Bay Packers and what the Packers do 205 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: and how they're going to execute on their end, much 206 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: more so than it's about anything that the Jaguars are. 207 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I mean, you've heard Tucker Kraft talk 208 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: numerous times this year about the Packers versus the Packers 209 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: and not hurting themselves and I think that's something that's 210 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: really held true. Last week was actually indication where Green 211 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: Bay did hurt itself a lot of ways, but it 212 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: didn't come back to cost them in the win column. 213 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: And one of the big reasons for that is complimentary 214 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: football wise, they did Picky's chie each other up in 215 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: one issue in one phase, didn't cause another phase to lapse. 216 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: And I think that's going to be very critical in 217 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: a game like this against Jacksonville because again the Jaguars 218 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: are home and they are going to have a little 219 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: bit more positive vibes behind them after that went against 220 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: New England, but it's been a grind for them throughout 221 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: the course of this year. I'm very interested to see 222 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: what the Parker Washington thing, what becomes of that, because 223 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: I think it was Devin Devernay was actually the one 224 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: that was the punt returner for them. Now he's on 225 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: injured reserve. Washington has only had I think three punt returns. 226 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: He's only been back there five times, and then he 227 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: ends up cranking that big return. So things like that 228 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 2: changed the complexion of a ballgame. And as you said, 229 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: that sort of through the door shut on the Patriots. 230 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: But overall, the number one point You've been driving home 231 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: all week, the fact that they have not taken the 232 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: ball away much defensively. If you are able to protect 233 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: the football and find a way to get some opportunities 234 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: on the other end of things, I think it works 235 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 2: out in the Packers favor. 236 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the biggest key to victory that jumps 237 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: out to me in this one for the Packers, primarily 238 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: because Green Bay is coming off of a three giveaway 239 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: game that almost cost you a game. That line of 240 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: scrimmage wise, you felt you were in control of the 241 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: game against the Texans for quite a bit, but because 242 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: of the giveaways, you almost cough that one up at home. 243 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: This game is about protecting the football you have to make. 244 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: You have to do what you do on offense, protect 245 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: the ball and make a Jaguars defense that hasn't stopped 246 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: teams on third down as you mentioned, that hasn't stopped 247 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: teams in the red zone, or hasn't stopped teams in 248 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: goal to go. You have to put yourself in those 249 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: situations as an offense for the Packers, and if you 250 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: protect the football, you ought to be able to put 251 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: up enough points to win the game. 252 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: It's a weird situation though, because Josh heinz Allen is 253 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: there as well. He's a former first round pick for them. 254 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: He had seventeen and a half sacks last year. He 255 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: only has two this year, but he actually has more 256 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: quarterback hits than Walker does. So I mean they have 257 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: guys that get after the quarterback. Aaron Armstead Eric Armstead 258 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: excuse me, is also there. I mean, they have names 259 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: that you would expect to be able to pressure and 260 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: generate positive opportunities. It just has not worked out for 261 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: them to this point, whatever that combination may be. Before 262 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 2: we started the show, I was praising Tyson Campbell is 263 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: a guy I thought has come in the league and 264 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 2: been a very capable guy for them on the perimeter 265 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: since drafting him in the second round back in twenty 266 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: twenty one. So Green Bay has to figure out what 267 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: it needs to do in this matchup to be able 268 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: to find that victory. But the fact of the matter 269 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: is these games are never easy. And one of the 270 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 2: things I was sort of reminiscing about this week is 271 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: I believe this is the fourth time I'm covering a 272 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: Jaguars game and the Packers have never blown them out. 273 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: That I can recall, even I wrote this an insider 274 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 2: inbox in twenty twelve, when the Jaguars are off to 275 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: a terrible start, and I believe trying to remember if 276 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: that was Blaine Gabbard still, if they had already made 277 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: the switch to Chad Henny. In twenty twelve, the Packers 278 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: were like sixteen and a half point favorites at lambeau Field. 279 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: Green Bay was off to like a five and three start. 280 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: Obviously they had the issue with the fail Mary, but 281 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: the Jaguars had one win to that point, and they 282 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: gave him a run for their money. Yeah, the twenty 283 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 2: sixteen game I think was a little bit more decisive, 284 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: but then even the twenty twenty game, or excuse me, 285 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty game was more decisive the twenty sixteen 286 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: game when you and I went down to Jacksonville and 287 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: it was ninety five degrees out for the opener. Yeah, 288 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: a game that was a knockdown, drag out battle that 289 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: I think came right down to the final whistle pretty much. 290 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: And then the Jaguars ended up getting on a pretty 291 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: rough start the rest of the way. So you expect 292 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: a tough matchup, but the Green Bit Packers have won 293 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: three in a row here, and as we've talked about 294 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: numerous times now, to be in a position to potentially 295 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: sweep the AFC South. When you get those those non 296 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: conference victories in your back pocket, those are sometimes the 297 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: currency that can kind of propel you with not only 298 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: the playoffs, but if you get there the postseason seedings 299 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: as well. 300 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you anticipating in terms of the crowd 301 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: for this one. We've seen Packers fan take over Nashville, Yeah, 302 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: takeover LA. This this could be another, you know, another 303 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: home game on the road for Green Bay because traditionally, 304 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: anytime the Packers are playing in Florida, whether it's Tampa 305 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: or Miami or Jacksonville, whatever, the fans generally show it. 306 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: And if you looked at the price of tickets at all, 307 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 2: I mean it's pretty cheap, Okay, I mean, so if 308 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: you're a Packer fan in that part of the country, 309 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: you can compare to what people have paid in LA 310 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: and some of these other venues. 311 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, the ticket prices in LA were kind of crazy. 312 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty economical even Nashville. Like kind of think 313 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: as you you had seen, I expect a Packers type 314 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: crowd to be perfectly honest with you. I mean, Jaguars 315 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: do have a fan base, and they were very coming 316 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: off of last year. I think there was a lot 317 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: of positive optimism. I mean, they gave Trevor Lawrence that 318 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: extension for a reason. I mean they they felt like 319 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: they were on the next step. 320 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: Well, it's it's it's interesting what's happened because two years ago, 321 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: two years ago, Doug Peterson comes in and things seem 322 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: to really be getting on the right track with Trevor Lawrence, 323 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: they make the playoffs, they have that monster comeback in 324 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: the playoff game against the Chargers, right to win a 325 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: playoff game. Last year, they you know, midway through the year, 326 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: they look like they're on their way to winning the 327 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: AFC South and getting back to the playoffs. And I 328 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: forget if it was whatever they lost, you know, six 329 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: of their last seven or whatever is they they just 330 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: it was five five of their last six. They just 331 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: completely fell apart in the last month and a half 332 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: of the season, let a playoff berth get away. And 333 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: then they come out this year and start zero to four. So, 334 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: you know, carrying over from the one season to the 335 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: next that they had, they lost nine out of ten 336 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: games to a team that for a year and a half, 337 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: more than a year and a half, looked like a 338 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: playoff team and was a playoff caliber team suddenly loses 339 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: nine out of ten and here they are, you know, 340 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: reaching close to the midway point of twenty twenty four 341 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: and trying to figure out where they're going. It's just 342 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: been it's been bizarre. 343 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then their one win was a twenty six 344 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: nothing shutout of the Panthers. I mean, and I think 345 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: that was after the Packers had played the Panthers, yeah, 346 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 2: in Carolina. So yeah, there's a lot going on there. 347 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: But again, and I know you'll probably after the we 348 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: get through everything, probably ask me more about the keys 349 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: of victory and this thing. But stopping Bigs by stopping 350 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 2: ETN and then limiting the explosive plays. I mean, you 351 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: do those three things, I think the takeaways and the 352 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: turnover opportunities will come. And also this is another game 353 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: too where Packers have had to be so cerebral with 354 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 2: how they've rushed these quarterbacks, these scrambling type quarterbacks. And 355 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: not that you know, Lawrence is a statue back there. 356 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 2: I mean, he has a thirty three yard run this 357 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: year too, but this is one where I think more 358 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: traditionally the Packers could get after him, and you know, 359 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: devonte Y could potentially be back in the cards for 360 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: them this weekend. That helps the defensive front. You have 361 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: a number of different guys that could potentially be involved 362 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: in that equation. But at the end of the day, 363 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: you got to take care of business and this is 364 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: going to be one of the big challenges here for 365 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: Green Bay before you get back to Lambellfield and have 366 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: that last one against the Lions before the bye week. 367 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: Or the bye week. Yeah, a little bit of sponsor 368 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: sponsor business here. 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Hopping on the plane 378 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: to go out to the West Coast to take on 379 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: the Rams. The Rams reportedly getting Cooper Cup back as 380 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: a big time weapon for Matthew Stafford and the Vikings 381 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: coming off of their first loss of the year, that 382 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: down to the wire defeat to the Detroit Lions last 383 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: week at home for them. Kind of an interesting one here. 384 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: And you've got much as you know, as we've talked 385 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: about before with the Rams and Sean McVay, now you 386 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: have the Sean McVay Kevin O'Connell head coaching matchup right 387 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: in this one as well. 388 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: This is the other thing that's funny that there's a 389 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: possibility here that Cup is back. But then Jordan Whitington, 390 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: who is the guy that was sort of the main 391 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 2: go to guy in the game against Green Bay, he's 392 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: now out. FUCA is still questionable. I mean like they 393 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 2: haven't gotten any healthier. It really seems like since the 394 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 2: Packers saw him a few weeks ago. Now that being said, 395 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 2: Blake Cashman is out for the Vikings, so I mean 396 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: that's a huge loss for them. I feel like he's 397 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: been one of the best, you know, free agent signings 398 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: we've seen in the league. And how he's coming there 399 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: and sort of made an impact, made a huge impact 400 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: in that game against Green Bay. 401 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: Yep. 402 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 2: But seems like Aaron Jones has moved past the hamstring injury, 403 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: so you still have him available. Yeah. Another one of 404 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: these that I think as long as the NFC North 405 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: keeps winning these matchups, in these games, you're going to 406 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 2: continually be trying to see exactly what other teams are 407 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: able to do against them. From the Rams perspective, though, 408 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: you can can't lose much more ground. No, it's going 409 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: to be kind of a forgiving division. It looks like 410 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: this year for them, with all the issues at San 411 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: Francisco's weathered and the fact that I don't think the 412 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 2: Seahawks are a world beater, but you're still two and 413 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 2: five and in trying to claim some more of those 414 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: victories here to build up some momentum. You have to 415 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: do it because the injuries aren't going away, and if 416 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 2: you lose enough of these games, your playoff hopes will 417 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: be out the window. Yeah. 418 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely, a few other games on Sunday that stick out 419 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: to me. I'll just rattle them off and let you 420 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 1: comment as you please. Chicago at Washington. Now there are 421 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: questions as to whether Jaden Daniels, who has a rib injury, 422 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback for Washington, is he going to be able 423 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: to play? 424 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 2: Is he not? 425 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: Obviously there's been a lot of anticipation for the two 426 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks, Jade and Daniels against Caleb Williams, and certainly 427 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: nobody had on their bingo card at the beginning of 428 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: the season that Chicago and Washington would be flexed into 429 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: the three twenty five national television slot. But there they are. 430 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: Buffalo at Seattle strikes me as a very interesting cross 431 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: conference game AFC versus NFC. Seattle snapped that three game 432 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: losing streak last week, they got back on the winning 433 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: track on the road in Atlanta with a pretty convincing 434 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: victory there, and Buffalo still, you know, looking like a 435 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: very formidable team, but now having to make the long 436 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: road trip out there and then the Sunday night game, 437 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: which hopefully will be home coming back on the plane. 438 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe we'll miss the first half, but 439 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: a chance to maybe watch it from our couches after 440 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: we get back from Jacksonville. Dallas at San Francisco, do 441 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: I have to you don't want to watch Dallas in 442 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: San Francisco. 443 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: You know, be okay, if out of San Francisco has 444 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: some players on the field, sure. 445 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: It brings back I guess even just seeing those two 446 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: helmets on the field it bring it brings back the 447 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: college memories for me, those early nineties, you know, Dallas 448 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: at San Francisco playoff games, those those of stuck with me. 449 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: My snark aside. It's a huge game for both of 450 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: these teams. Hellas got absolutely clobbered before their bye week. 451 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: They come back. Now, you saw the statistics how good 452 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott has been after the bye week, seeing if 453 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 2: he can keep that going. But my goodness, man, it 454 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: seems like every single week the forty nine ers lose 455 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: somebody else. You know, Kittle's still hurt, Ayyuk is injured, Like. 456 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they lost Ayuk for the season. Now over after 457 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: all of that, Yeah. 458 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean this is this is gut check 459 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 2: time for them, sitting at three and four. I think 460 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: the other one too, Atlanta and Tampa Bay, somebody in 461 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 2: the NFC South trying to that's a quite. 462 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: Is a big That is a big game in the 463 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: NFC South with both of those team teams coming off 464 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:44,239 Speaker 1: of home losses. Yes, that, you know, games that they 465 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: were certainly hoping to win, playing at home in some 466 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: big matchups, but they both took a defeat. And and 467 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: somebody needs to take control of that NFC South. 468 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: And with uh Chicago and Washington again, if if Daniels 469 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: can play in this thing, I think the reports were 470 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 2: he's weak to weak, but if he he can go. 471 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 2: Although we saw what that meant with Dan Davian Wicks. 472 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 2: He was week to week two and he was out 473 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: there on Sunday catching thirty yard touchdown passes, right, but Daniels, 474 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: I mean this guy, dude. He has been just such 475 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: an enigmatic force in the NFL this season, and Chicago's 476 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 2: defense is legit. If that would matchup is there, it'd 477 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: be really interesting to watch that. As much as people 478 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: will make it about Williams and Daniels, seeing how Daniels 479 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: handles that Chicago defense, I think is really interesting to 480 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: me if it would work out that way. But certainly 481 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: Washington man, nobody saw this coming, like with Dallas coming 482 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: off the season that they did, Philadelphia still being a 483 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: team that has some pop behind them after the Super 484 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 2: Bowl two years ago, and here are the Washington Commanders 485 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 2: just flying into this thing. 486 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: The one thing I'll say about Washington, not quarterback related, 487 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: we have seen we have seen over the years, whether 488 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: it's whether it's as a coordinator or as a head coach, 489 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: wherever dan Quinn goes, he makes an immediate impact on 490 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: a de defense. A defense under dan Quinn starts to 491 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: play significantly better right away. Now, there are times, I 492 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: mean in Dallas he wasn't able to sustain it. Certainly 493 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: in Seattle they sustained it for a long time, and 494 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: I don't really you know, in Atlanta they didn't quite 495 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: really sustain it there either because they became much more 496 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: dependent on Matt Ryan and Julio Johnson and all that. 497 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: But dan Quinn's track record is when he goes somewhere 498 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: that he makes an immediate impact on the defense. And 499 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: I think the combination of that with Jayden Daniels being this, 500 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, eye opening rookie quarterback, it's completely changed the 501 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: outlook in Washington. 502 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: And I just love the construct of their entire offense too. 503 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: I mean, now, again it changes if Marcus Mariota is 504 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: the quarterback. But you know, Austin Eckler being the guy 505 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 2: that's complimenting Robinson now and the fact that you have 506 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: I think Terry McLaurin the Pandora's box has really been 507 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 2: opened with him now in terms of this isn't just 508 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: you know, kind of a smallish receiver that makes possession plays. 509 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 2: Now he's a big play guy if he has a 510 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: quarterback that can get him the ball, and just a 511 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: lot of different avenues that they have to generate offense. 512 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: In addition to the fact that, yeah, their defense has 513 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: made a complete turnaround here this season. Yeah, as long 514 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 2: as they're not playing this Sin sadibangles. 515 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was the one. That was the 516 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 1: one game there that you were kind of scratching your 517 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: head with what was going on. Defensive defense was optional 518 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: for both teams. Yeah, both both teams in that game. 519 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: That one, That one got a little out of hand. 520 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think an interesting slate of games in 521 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: uh in Week eight in the NFL and looking ahead 522 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: six months down the road. Be among the thousands of 523 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: professional football fans cheering on their teams NFL picks by 524 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: joining us April twenty fourth through April twenty sixth. In 525 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five for the NFL Draft, visit green Bay 526 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: dot com slash Draft twenty five for more information. 527 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: Have you decided if you're going to sleep here or 528 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: not those three days? I don't know. 529 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I might good. Aybe Yeah, wellybe e 530 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: latable Naras Studio here, we'll just we'll set up like 531 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: we have showers, Lambeau. Yeah we do. We got a lot. Yeah, 532 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: we got a locker room that we could do. 533 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 2: You have a locker in there? 534 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. 535 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 2: Okay, well if you need to use mine, but yeah, 536 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure I could. I got shampoo, I'm sure. 537 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: I could get one. Yeah, what a. 538 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: Way to in the show? 539 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, we always and we get to this and then 540 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: we start talking about this thing that's gonna happen in 541 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: six months, and yeah, it's it's gonna be historic. It's 542 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: gonna be one of a kind. But we're trying to 543 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: figure out just how to do our jobs amidst all 544 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: the chaos. 545 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: Week eight already, buddy, Can you believe that? 546 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: I know, I know when you when you look at 547 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: it as far as preseason and regular season twenty games, 548 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: it were halfway there. Oh, hey, ten ten games of 549 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: ten games out of twenty year in the books. 550 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: Hopefully it feels like it. 551 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: Because you know, we're hoping to maybe have some playoffs, 552 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: you know at the end of the. 553 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: One hundred percent mentally, man, I am just like I'm 554 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 2: the coyote in the desert, like dragging myself to this 555 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: bye week. Like it was like I think whatever I 556 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 2: had left was it like the bow Melton story, then 557 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 2: the stuff I did last last week, And now I'm 558 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: just like just slightly clawing my way to that. Yeah 559 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 2: that buy. 560 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and we've actually benefited from a lot 561 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: of like noon games. Yeah, did you imagine this, this 562 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: this stretch that we've got coming up with like four 563 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: night games in a row or whatever, It's going to 564 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: be like I might even have to have some coffee 565 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: right here to get through packers unscripted. 566 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: Way, wouldn't that be somethinker We could do a well 567 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: we couldn't do this because I don't think I can 568 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 2: drink alcoholic work, but it would be like you you 569 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 2: have a coffee and I have an ipa, and then 570 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 2: it's like freaky Fridays that we just switch it up 571 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: and see which one of us gets through at first. Yeah, 572 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: there there you go, there we go. 573 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we may we may just have to 574 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: try that. Desperate times could call for desperate measures. 575 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: Hey, I want to close on this because we'll never 576 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,479 Speaker 2: have another chance to talk about this either. Remember how 577 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: I was kind of ripping on the double Monday night 578 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: football game. Yeah, last week, did you see what the 579 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 2: ratings were for that ESPN Plus game for Arizona. 580 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean there was like hardly anybody who watched it. 581 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: I mean hardly anybody could watch. 582 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: My dad, so I have like ESPN Plus, I can 583 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 2: do all that stuff. But he asked my dad. I'm like, hey, 584 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 2: you watching He's like, no, I don't watch that stuff 585 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: on the internet. I'm like, oh yeah, fair play. It's 586 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: easy enough when it's right on the television. He doesn't 587 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 2: need to go on the internet to watch any other football. 588 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: Oh well, all right, what a great ending to the show. 589 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: Fantastic with that, we'll call it a wrap on this 590 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of 591 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: our coverage of the team and everything from Sunday's game 592 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. We will be there and we will have 593 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: it all for you on Packers dot Com for Wesiam Mike. 594 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in everybody, and we will see 595 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: you next time.