1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the Whitetail Woods, presented by First Light, 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind. 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay longer, and now your hosts 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: Casey Smith and Tyler Jones. 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: This is rout Fresh Radio. I'm your host, Casey Smith. 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: It is officially white Taill Hot Week. Everybody is going wild, 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: including the big bucks. We have a big cold front 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: coming in this week across the country and everybody is stoked. However, 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: you still have to make the right moves. Let's figure 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: out what those are. This is Retfresh, Let's go. 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: Welcome to rut Fresh Radio, brought to you by first 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: Light Gear. I'm your host Tyler Jones, and I've got 14 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: another host here. His name is Casey Smith. 15 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: Finally, dude, I actually get to do some work for once. 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: Klein Joe has been holding it down the rough way 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: to go. It ain't that much work. It's not unless. 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: It's it's actually a lot of fun to get talk 19 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: to all these people, especially when you got you know, 20 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: guys like Jannis Ptellius on the phone with you. It 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: could just you know, tell you just stories that you 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: just key in on. Man. Somehow people like that can 23 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: just hold your attention so well, you know, and he's 24 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: been out there, you know, doing a bunch of stuff 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: up in the Upper Midwest. We've got guys from the 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: Midwest doing this. We got guys from the South this week, 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: but everybody is taking rut vacations to the Midwest, so 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: we wanted to have this week be a Midwest heavy episode. 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: Why still radiates out from the Midwest for sure, it 30 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: truly does. 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: I love Texas. 32 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: I mean, we have a rich hunting culture here for 33 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: white tail deer especially, but I mean Iowa, Kansas, Illinois, Missouri. 34 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: That's just what you think. And the beauty of those 35 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: states man is like you can go hunt, you know, 36 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 3: your your uncle's property. It's one hundred and sixty acres 37 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: or public peace and you stand a chance of like 38 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 3: a big, big deer showing up. But in Texas you 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: kind of got to have some money to have, you know, 40 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: most of the time, right, not all the time. 41 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: But you can feel great about a forty in hour. 42 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: You know, it's just a it's a different different and 43 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: that's why it's cool. It ain't we ain't being critical. 44 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: It is awesome, sure, and I hope we get to 45 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: hunt there next year. Yeah, but it seems as if 46 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: the cold front has pushed through. There's been some hot weather. Yeah, 47 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: you made some choices bad according to hot weather, bad ones. 48 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: Tell me about those choices time. Why do I have 49 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: to tell everybody? 50 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: It is? There's like thousands of people that are going 51 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: to hear how dumb I am. No, no, no, So 52 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: you you came home from a winter wonderland, my goodness, 53 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: and with a nice buck and toe potentially man potentially, 54 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: And then you know, we were fixing to get ready 55 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: to go on our kind of vacation and uh, we're 56 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: trying to figure out what date and you're like, uh, 57 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna spend a little bit time with 58 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: the family and then go out this day. And I 59 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: was like, I was gonna go a day before you. Well, 60 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: I looked for my my E tag, but I was 61 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: looking for the physical version of this E tag. It's 62 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: what the EMS. I looked for like an hour and 63 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: a half, dude, I was. I tore my entire house 64 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: apart just my truck. I cleaned my truck pretty much, 65 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: but I did and could not find the saying I 66 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: was eating dust. I'm highly allergic. So I'm just sitting 67 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: there just sneezing and throwing a fit, you know. And 68 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: uh then I realized and finally I was like, okay, 69 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: this is it an e tag. I've never done any 70 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: tag before, so I don't know. Maybe so anyway, yes, 71 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: I looked for that for a while. I got tired 72 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: and I sit down and I look. I start looking 73 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: at the trail cameras from this area that we're going, 74 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: and I'm like, man, uh, there's like no daylight pictures 75 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: of bucks and hardly even doze over the last like 76 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 3: three days. And I start thinking, you know what, it's 77 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: been pretty hot attally, it's it warmed up a lot 78 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: after that cold front. And I mean in Texas it's 79 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: been in the eighties, you know. And so I'm just 80 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: sitting here thinking, man, let's just look at the weather 81 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: and see when the hot streak ends, well the ends, 82 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: you know Thursday for most of the country or whatever, 83 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: is when Wednesday Thursdays when kind of that cold front 84 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 3: starts to come in. And so I was like, okay, 85 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 3: well I'll wait a little bit later to go and 86 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 3: do some some hunting and lo and behold, instead of 87 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 3: leaving that morning and hunting that afternoon, I decided to 88 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: leave a few days later. Well, that next morning comes 89 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: and you know, no big deal. I think you had 90 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: just gotten home. I'm doing some work stuff. And then 91 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: that evening comes around when I should be hunting, and 92 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:52,559 Speaker 3: there are some golden pictures of a Mondo eight point. 93 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: There's a couple in there in daylight in the last 94 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: few days. Yeah, so it's, uh, there's this thing, there's 95 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: this thing, there's a there's a there's a slope that 96 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: continuously goes up as it goes to the right on 97 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 3: the graph, and it goes up until it starts going 98 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 3: back down probably and like maybe maybe mid to late November, 99 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 3: but it's going up right now, and it is it 100 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: is rough movement essentially right and every day so like 101 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: you have another you have another line that can cross 102 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: this slope at any point and give you your amount 103 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: of deer movement. And it's called weather, right, and so 104 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: your weather can help at times, it can move that 105 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: point up and down this this slope of deer movement. Right. 106 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: So we got to the point where we're at the 107 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 3: point now where deer movement is about at the peak 108 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: that it can possibly be at on a standalone basis, 109 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 3: and then you know, the so that the weather doesn't 110 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 3: even affect this thing, and whereas like in the last 111 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: few days's weather kind of still affected it because there's 112 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: still not fully where the peak of that deer movement. 113 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: So the X Y data point for later this week 114 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 3: is real good because that's going to push it and 115 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: the weather's gonna be good. 116 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 2: So that's the that's the kind of the shining piece 117 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: in this thing, is that your decision still might have 118 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: been good because I just checked the trail camera. There's 119 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: a brand new buck on there. Oh I don't know if 120 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: you shoot or not. It's kind of young, but he's big. 121 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, one shooter years old. For me, 122 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: I guarantee you he's an eight point with long times. 123 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 2: But that happens now. I'm just that's what I was 124 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: getting to. 125 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 3: I made a dumb point way too long, but like 126 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 3: a good point way too long by being dumb. So anyway, 127 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 3: the the the as the days go into November past 128 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: that first week, even I think you just even despite 129 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 3: weather being warm, you start to see And that's where 130 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: we got to where you know, we had we didn't 131 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: have quiet the rut influence and the testosterone influence to have. 132 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 3: It just was a perfect story of me looking at 133 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: cameras and then all of a sudden it's like, Okay, 134 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: well it's the fifth or sixth or whatever it is. 135 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: It's like it's time and they just show up anyway, 136 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: even if it's seventy to eighty degrees or whatever. 137 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, if you think Toder and I make good 138 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: decisions or bad decisions or indecisive either way, if you 139 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: want to hear more about what we think about the rut, 140 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: we've been doing a Rut Q and A. We've got 141 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: a ton of questions about the rut. So if you 142 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: go check out the Element podcast, we just launched a 143 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: brand new Q and A on that, and then also 144 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: coming up soon, if you heard a little allusion to 145 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: maybe a deer that might have went down up in 146 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: the North Country on some public ground, you want to hear. 147 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: That story, go check out the Element podcast as well. 148 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: We'll get into that. 149 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: But today we're going to get into some rut hype 150 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: from a couple of guys around the country. 151 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: Who are those dudes. Well, so we've got our good 152 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: buddy read Struble, who's been on before at some point 153 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: in this season. I think he was the first week. 154 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: He sure was, and he he hunts that trifecta area 155 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: of the US where they don't really know where they're from, 156 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about. It's like Indiana, maybe 157 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: Tennessee was even in there. So he's he's actually killed 158 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: him his first buck uh with a trad bow in Indiana, 159 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: uh this week. So he's given us a report from Indiana, 160 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: which is a state that you don't hear. It kind 161 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: of flies under the radar a little bit, but it 162 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 3: has the potential to have a big, big deer. In fact, 163 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: I think the number two typical from last year, the 164 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: number two typical in the world, came from Indiana, right. 165 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: I don't remember, I believe. So do you know that 166 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: there are some giants there. I talked to a guy 167 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: a few years back that had a ranch there and 168 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: or a farm whatever they call him up there. 169 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: And monsters yep. 170 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: Uh. 171 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: We also have like I mentioned earlier, our good buddy 172 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: Jannis Pitelis. He's been up in Wisconsin doing the Latvian 173 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: thing up there and hunting them deer, you know, is 174 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: that uh they call it Eastern Europe. Was that Wisconsin? 175 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 3: No Latvia? Yeah, sure, it's I don't know for sure 176 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: where it's at. There is a polka influence in Wisconsin, right, 177 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: That's what I remember when we did when we put 178 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: together the Illinois buck truck and we were real close 179 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 3: to Wisconsin, there was bunchreal tell me that that polka 180 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 3: music was big up there. Jake Hofer another good buddy 181 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 3: of ours, who's one of those guys like Sam Hogan 182 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: if you heard him last week. He is like just 183 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: the humble, laughy guy that pretends like he can't kill 184 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: here and then every year he ends up killing Mondo's. 185 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 3: And he also has got his thumb on the pulse. Dude, 186 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: Oh he does. He is tax show. Yeah, dude, I'm 187 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: letting listen. If you know this guy, do not tell 188 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: him Anything's okay. He will figure it out. He makes 189 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: fun of us for finding all his spots because we have, 190 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: but he will do the same back to you. So 191 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 3: you got to watch that guy, Jake Hofer in Illinois. Man, 192 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: he's got a good report. Killed a nice buck and 193 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: then uh oh, Lay McNasty from Louisiana down south hanging 194 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 3: out in the swamps getting mac nasty down there. He's 195 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: been out hunting actually in the Midwest in Missouri, but 196 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 3: he's now back in his I guess home state of 197 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 3: Louisiana and he's doing some hunting around there. So he's 198 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: got a good report for us from the South. Things 199 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: are starting to pop off there as well. So we're 200 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 3: gonna get all these guys on the phone and see 201 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 3: what is going on all throughout the Midwest and there 202 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: in Louisiana once again world famous read Struggle the man 203 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 3: who first made the mullet popular. What's going on, dude? 204 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 5: Man? That is quite the intro. 205 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: What's going on? You just interviewing a guy who's killed 206 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: a buck in Indiana? What about you? 207 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 208 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, I'm just you know, been hunting really hard. 209 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 7: Talking to a couple of Texas guys that are that 210 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 7: are working hard right now? 211 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got you got someboddies up there that are 212 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 3: from Texas and y'all been deer hunting a little bit, right, 213 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: has it been? 214 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 5: Yes, sir, Yes, sir, it's been incredible. 215 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 7: This weekend just was pretty much textbook is hard a 216 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 7: pre rudders who could get cold fronts, you know, real 217 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 7: cold in the morning, good even sits warm up up. 218 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 7: And basically we had deer around us Saturday morning, saw 219 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 7: five deer, three bucks. 220 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 5: Two those I killed my buck on that. 221 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 7: Evening, Saturday evening, and then we killed two more bucks 222 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 7: yesterday morning on Sunday, the fifth in thirty seconds. 223 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: That's maximizing right there. Okay, so we got to unpick 224 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: this just a little bit. How Okay, that's a special 225 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: thing to happen. What's the tactic because it had to 226 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: they had to be kind of connected, right, what's the 227 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 2: tactic that made that happen? 228 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, so, yeah, absolutely, So the three bucks are separating 229 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 7: on two separate properties. But so mine was actually, you know, 230 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 7: hunting on private land and my folks. 231 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 5: Which was really cool. I killed my first buck with. 232 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 7: Traditional equipment, and he was working. He's right mouth open, 233 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 7: you know, working a bench and checking. You know, he 234 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 7: stopped for I actually shot him while he was moving, 235 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 7: you know, he basically never never really stopped. He's just 236 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 7: kind of slowly trotting through and shot him at eight 237 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 7: yards double lung, and he literally died in twenty yards. 238 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 5: Never knew it happened. 239 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was incredible, twenty literally with twenty Yes. 240 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 8: Literally with twenty just oh man. 241 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, incredible. He didn't even know what happened. 242 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 7: He stood underneath my tree and had the wobbles, you know, 243 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 7: underneath me, and then did a death dive and died. 244 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 5: It rolled down the hill at twenty yards. 245 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 7: It was while my buddy from Texas who drove didn't 246 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 7: sleep for thirty six hours, watched the entire thing happen. 247 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 3: That's cool. That is cool. 248 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 9: Man. 249 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, died right in front of his tree. 250 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 10: It was incredible. 251 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: Nice. 252 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 7: So, yeah, he was working, you know, basically we're set 253 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 7: up on a bench, expect with the wind in our favor, 254 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 7: expecting him, you know, dear to be working that bench 255 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 7: trying to catch a set of a hot dough. 256 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, essentially, So cruising bucks is the thing, and you're 257 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: finding beach on terrain that do that. Or are those 258 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: deer using the wind mostly or is it they're just 259 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 2: coming in to a place they know does hang out 260 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: or what's that look like? 261 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 7: The three bucks that we've had less one of them. 262 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 7: One was a little different than the other ones, but 263 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 7: two were, you win, in their favor. They're working these 264 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 7: benches in the morning. We had killed the one working 265 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 7: a bench, you know, trying to catch those rising thermals. 266 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 7: And then my buck was at the lowest bench on 267 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 7: the ridge on the hillface and trying to pull those 268 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 7: thermals down to them, and we were set up. 269 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 3: Just belowing, gotcha, gotcha? So are they heading? Are those 270 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: benches heading towards h food source or are they heading 271 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: towards doe betting? 272 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, so the the one that both of them are 273 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 7: coming from betting going to a food source was the 274 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 7: travel root or vice versa. One was coming in one 275 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 7: of the morning, so they're basically going to the food source, 276 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 7: are coming back, and these benches are running from one 277 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 7: to the other. And then the biggest of the three bucks, 278 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 7: we rattled in and had him at I had him 279 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 7: at twenty eight, and he swung to get our wind, 280 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 7: buggered on us and went straight up the hillside and 281 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 7: walked fifteen yards underneath of my buddy. 282 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 5: His big, biggest buck of his life. 283 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 7: And yeah, I killed with his grandpa's compound, an old 284 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 7: eighty four oh night. 285 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 10: So that was really really cool. 286 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 7: It was an incredible experience and actually had to views 287 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 7: a had to use a drone to. 288 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 6: End up finding it. 289 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 5: So we found it yeah, it was. It was very interesting, 290 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 5: but it did work. He went seven hundred yards. 291 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 7: It was a gut shot and found him seven hundred 292 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 7: yards and went and got him. 293 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: The No One waist up in your neck of the 294 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: woods man, good stuff. 295 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 5: No, yeah, yeah, exactly all means necessary. 296 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, So in the next week, do you expect things 297 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: to be very similar? 298 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 7: I'm we've got the next couple of days just from 299 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 7: trail cameras. 300 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 5: We just pulled a couple of cams. 301 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 7: Things are were really really hot for the over the weekend. 302 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 7: I think it's going to slow down. 303 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 5: For a day or two. But we've got a front 304 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 5: coming in on Thursday, and I think this is going 305 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 5: to fire up in this weekend. Is going to be 306 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 5: really good. 307 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 7: They're they're pushing hard, and I've noticed it's been a 308 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 7: lot of younger bucks that have been pushing the dose. 309 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 5: I don't know quite how many, you know. 310 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 7: I haven't seen a Doe and heat with five bucks 311 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 7: chasing their by any means yet, but I think there's 312 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 7: mature bucks this week into this weekend. 313 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 5: It's going to be when you. 314 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 7: See the you know what everyone's looking for with a 315 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 7: crazy I like to hear it. 316 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 5: Man, So it's going to happen. 317 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: You know, if you had to rank it on a 318 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: scale of one to ten, what are you going to 319 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: call it. 320 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 7: I'm going to give the next two days a good old. 321 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 5: Five probably, but I'm giving Thursday to. 322 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 6: Saturday a nine. 323 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: Oh that's a high number. Let's go. Well, appreciate it, man. 324 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 8: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put it put a 325 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 8: hot number. I think it's gonna be good. 326 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 5: We're going to see some big We're going to see 327 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 5: some big ones get killed. 328 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: That's awesome, dude. 329 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: We'll congrats on all the success y'all are having up there, man, 330 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: And I can't wait to see the next big book 331 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: picture you send us. 332 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 5: Yes, sir, appreciate y'all. 333 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 2: On the phone, I have got Yannis poutell Us with 334 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: meat Eater. He is in Wisconsin hunting up some whitetail deer. 335 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: Giannie. What's going on, man? 336 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 8: H I'm hammering, man, I'm putting my rut cation. 337 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 11: Uh, it's gone from rut cation to the rout grind. 338 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: That's what's going on. 339 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, where is the pivot point on that exactly? 340 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 8: I would say it's. 341 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 11: Probably around days six or seven for me, I think 342 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 11: I'm about nine days in, so I was, I. 343 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 10: Was, I was. 344 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 11: I was pretty high spirited all the way through that. 345 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 11: But uh, I also hit a buck and didn't recover it. 346 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 11: And so that's that's been a little bit of a low. 347 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 8: Point, a little bit of a hole I'm climbing out of. 348 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 11: But I got one day left and the weather's gonna 349 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 11: be nice and cool, and the wind's gonna be calm 350 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 11: in the morning. So I'm looking forward to hopefully one more. 351 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 8: Day of good rut hunting. 352 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that's good. I'm sorry you didn't recover that buck. 353 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 3: But that's bow hunting. 354 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: You know, it's a very cliche thing to say, but 355 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: if you are a bowhunter, you understand that for sure. Yeah, 356 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: you have a big time span there that you've spent 357 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: in the woods. See, I'm sure you've got to see 358 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 2: like the rut come alive almost, which is like a 359 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: really great privilege. But what have the deer been doing 360 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 2: the past few days there in Wisconsin? 361 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,719 Speaker 8: Uh, just the past few days? 362 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 11: You know, when I when I shot my bot, he 363 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 11: was on his feet at three point thirty in the afternoon, 364 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 11: just cruising, just caughting across dough trails that led from 365 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 11: a ridge down to h to a course to a 366 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 11: standing corn field. And I knew I had a half 367 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 11: dozen you know, trails going up and down from the dose, 368 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 11: and a. 369 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 8: Trail going across all of them. 370 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 11: I figured, you know, some bucks would be cruising it, 371 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 11: and sure enough he was at three thirty. 372 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 8: Just about every day. 373 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 11: This week, I've had all day activity of some cruising 374 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 11: of some sort. Surprisingly, the only day that I've actually 375 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 11: seen a buck with a dough was October thirtieth. 376 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 8: Now that was the one day I saw. 377 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: A big front. I guess, huh, one hundred percent. 378 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 11: Like I got in here right when that front got here. 379 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 11: I was probably I was one day late. I missed 380 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 11: the first day of it. But now I was in 381 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 11: the tree on the thirtieth, and yeah, they came by 382 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 11: me right at first, like it was too dark still 383 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 11: to shoot. But like I said, ever since then, it's 384 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 11: been good activity. 385 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 8: Almost all day long. 386 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 11: I'm hunting the ridgetops mostly so I can have good wind, 387 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 11: and they seem to be more active, more action up 388 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 11: there in the mornings. My evening's up there tend to 389 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 11: be a little bit slower, and so I've been the 390 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 11: last few days. Aside from looking for that buck, I've 391 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 11: been moving off the ridgetops and trying to hunt down 392 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 11: closer towards the ag and the valley bottoms. 393 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 6: In the evenings. 394 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 3: You've mentioned the wind a couple of times, Johnas, what 395 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: can you kind of explain the dynamic you have going 396 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: on there? What hypothesis you have as to why the 397 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 3: evenings are slower than the mornings or vice versa, or 398 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 3: what all's going on there? Exactly? 399 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 8: Well, I wish I knew Yler. Maybe it's very hilly country. 400 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 11: We've got about two hundred to two hundred and fifty 401 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 11: feet of elevation relief between the valley bottoms and the 402 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 11: ag and these ridge tops, and some of these draws 403 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 11: and valleys aren't more than, you know, a couple hundred 404 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 11: three hundred yards apart. And so when you get these 405 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 11: anything that picks up over ten miles an hour, really 406 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 11: when it comes across those rich and then it drops 407 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 11: into these bowls, who knows what it's doing. I'm still 408 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 11: trying to figure all that out. 409 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: So this is country that you grew up hunting, rot 410 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 2: This is kind of like your childhood deer camp. And 411 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: I know just from talks with you you kind of 412 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 2: came into archery hunting as an adult a little bit 413 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 2: more so, how's your approach changed in that type of 414 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 2: country as you kind of have to change or do 415 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 2: change your tactics. 416 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 8: You know, it's it's big woods country. 417 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 11: We don't there's no besides the little bit of ag 418 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 11: that's at the at the foot of the hills. Otherwise 419 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 11: everything all that land, you know, the four or five 420 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 11: hundred acres I have access to is basically just. 421 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 8: All big mature oak forest. 422 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 11: There's been some clear cutting done in there and some 423 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 11: selective cutting, but for the most part you're hunting woods, 424 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 11: and so finding the edge habitat, finding the funnels is tricky. 425 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 8: It's it's not easy to do. 426 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 11: So a lot of times the easiest thing to do 427 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 11: is just fine where three or four riches come together 428 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 11: and set up set up on the down wind side 429 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 11: of that. But I'd say the biggest thing that's just 430 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 11: changed from being just a kid coming up here rifle 431 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 11: haunting to you know, now being a bull hunter is 432 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 11: just having to you know, take that, take what you 433 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 11: think about the deer movement in this country and just 434 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 11: pinpoint it down to a place where you're gonna have 435 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 11: a twenty yard shot. 436 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 3: Are there any acrons falling? 437 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 11: You know, it's funny because they're actually not because they 438 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 11: have all fallen, But there are places where you will 439 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 11: literally roll down the. 440 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 8: Hill after ball bearings. We had. 441 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 11: We had such a good acorn crop this year, a 442 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 11: lot of them, actually, some of the like one of 443 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 11: my spots I love to haunt. 444 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 8: I call it the Oak Flat. 445 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 11: It's just it's just kind of one of those ridge tops, 446 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 11: but it opens up and it's eighty yards across and 447 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 11: I walk that thing and it's pretty. 448 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 8: It's just been picked clean. 449 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 11: So the bears and the deer and the turkey ball 450 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 11: been in there, are just hammering those acorns. So there's 451 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 11: a few places where you can find a bunch of them, 452 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 11: but the critters have been on them. 453 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 2: Well, we have another cold front that's supposed to kind 454 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: of move through the country over the next week, and 455 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 2: I know that you're fixing to wrap up your hunt here. 456 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: But as any good hunter, I'm sure you're sitting there 457 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: thinking about just what might happen in the woods going forward. 458 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: What do you expect the deer to be doing here 459 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: in the next week. 460 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 11: Well, it seems like with that cold front that the 461 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 11: pressure is also gonna come up. And it sure seemed 462 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 11: like over the last week when that pressure was high, 463 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 11: there was a little bit more movement than when it 464 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 11: dropped off, which you know, I think everybody knows that 465 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 11: they tend to move more when the pressures up. So 466 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 11: that's coming with this cold front. So that's gonna be good. 467 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 11: But I'd say in general, it's just gonna keep getting. 468 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 6: Better and better and better. 469 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 11: And I still think from today, which is the seventh, right, guys, 470 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 11: this six or six or seven, it's been a long 471 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 11: stretch for me. I feel like there's still gonna be 472 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 11: two or three good days of just that, like good 473 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 11: kind of seeking cruising activity until you start getting some 474 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 11: bucks that are gonna be more into, you know, finding 475 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 11: their dough and getting locked down, and then you're gonna 476 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 11: get into that part where you're like, oh man, nothing's 477 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 11: going on, But it's just because you're not in that 478 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 11: spot wherever everything's going on. 479 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: You know. So with all this in mind, if you 480 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 3: had to put a number on it from on a 481 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 3: scale of one to ten, what would you what would 482 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 3: you like guess that the buck movement is gonna be 483 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: like in the next week. 484 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 8: Nine, the third game. 485 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 11: I'm an eternal optimist and I've I've been hunting like 486 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 11: a i'd say, like a six or a seven, and 487 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 11: I just feel like it's just ramp It's gonna ramp 488 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 11: up again with like you guys said this next cold 489 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 11: front and so yeah, man, it's gonna be good. 490 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 8: I wish I had more days. 491 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate the optimism, dude. And the comulatve score 492 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 2: this week is like really high we're. 493 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: Looking at it's. 494 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 9: Like thirty eight. 495 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's officially wattail Hop week, and we 496 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: appreciate you being on to share the hop you honest, 497 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: thanks man. 498 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 8: Yeah, you're welcome. Thank you, guys. 499 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 3: Jake Koper is on the way to Iowa, but he's 500 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 3: been in Illinois hunting big bucks in a state that 501 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 3: has a lot of them sometimes, at least in the past, 502 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 3: it has, Jake, Jake, you killed one recently, right. 503 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, man, I was fortunate enough to notch my Illinois 504 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 9: tag on November third in the. 505 00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 10: Evening about five thirty. 506 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 3: Golly, this is one last big one in Illinois. 507 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 9: Now, for sure, one last, but there's still a few 508 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 9: running around. 509 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's kind of early in the in the 510 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: rut for the scheme of things. And I know you 511 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: pretty well, and I feel like you usually you're kind 512 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 2: of playing it safe and being conservative and slipping in 513 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: on one a little later in the year usually. So 514 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: I was just surprised that you went ahead and killed 515 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 2: this early. Was there something that you really picked out 516 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: on this deer that was like the tactic to go to? 517 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 10: You know. 518 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 9: I wish I could sound really smart and tell you 519 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 9: all these different things I had figured out. 520 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 10: But I was in Iowa, Honting. 521 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 9: I hunted in Iowa for eight days, and I was 522 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 9: in the stand Friday morning. I was like, man, I 523 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 9: really feel like I can go back and kill a 524 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 9: salader in Illinois over the weekend before things really frank 525 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,959 Speaker 9: off in Iowa. And so I packed up a ten 526 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 9: o'clock drove straight to the farm. And November three has 527 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 9: always been one of my favorite days. I feel that 528 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 9: there's a lot of solid year covering some distance, and 529 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 9: I did some work on this farm and ironically drove straight. 530 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 10: To the farm. 531 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 9: This is the first time I ever set up in 532 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 9: this new mouse trap, and I worked perfectly. 533 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 10: It was a deer. 534 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 9: Governing some distance, not a deer that I had around 535 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 9: very often. I had some velvet pictures of them, and 536 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 9: it was just a classic He was looking for a dough, 537 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 9: I think, and there was some other good deer that 538 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 9: started to show up on that farm. And I think 539 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 9: one of the biggest challenges this year is being there 540 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 9: before it happens. And there was just the inkling of 541 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 9: information that things were. 542 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 10: Starting to get really good there. 543 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 9: So I drove straight there and read the script twenty 544 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 9: yards and had an Illinois buck down after like three 545 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 9: out person in the blind there. So it was one 546 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 9: of those weird things that doesn't work out often, but 547 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 9: holy cow, what it does? 548 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 10: You feel kind of smart? 549 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: M hey, can you explain what the mousetrap is? 550 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 9: Absolutely so the mouse trap. So I got this farm, 551 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 9: there was a blind on it, and it was a 552 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 9: situation where you'd have to be access to the line 553 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 9: wasn't ideal. 554 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 10: You'd have to. 555 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 9: Walk where the deer where they're vetted or probably gonna 556 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 9: see you walk in. You have to walk straight through 557 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 9: the food plot and lay down a lot of grounds. 558 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 9: And so what I did this year is I moved 559 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 9: that blind and actually dozed into new access road just 560 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 9: straight down this hill and I can slip right in, 561 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 9: not even step foot into the food plot. And how 562 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 9: the architecture of the plot, there's a really good pinch 563 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 9: where your SHOT's gonna be fifteen to twenty yards and 564 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 9: you're gonna see him coming. And that's exactly what happened. 565 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 9: I mean, it worked exactly. 566 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 10: How I imagine when I did it, and that's really 567 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 10: rewarding just just see some of that work. 568 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 9: Actually pay off and everything come together. It just fixed 569 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 9: up for all the times where it doesn't work out 570 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 9: yet you plan. 571 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 3: Was that was? So was the deer eating in the 572 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 3: food plot or was he cruising? 573 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 9: He was cruising, Yeah, so he was cruising. 574 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 10: I seen him. 575 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 9: And when I saw him, I was like, man, this 576 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 9: year is a big frame. And I was like, you 577 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 9: kind of go through that archive in your brain as 578 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 9: fast as possible as. 579 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 10: You see him coming. 580 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 9: And I was like, man, he's got a big frame. 581 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 9: I think he's got a sticker on us too, I said. 582 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 9: In the back of my mind, I was like, I'm 583 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 9: pretty sure I had one in the summer that was 584 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 9: like that, and it was. It was definitely in that 585 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 9: deer and it was kind of funny I grunted at him. 586 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 10: He was twenty yards. 587 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 9: I probably shouldn't have run at him. I know there's 588 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 9: a debate that you stop the deer or do you not. 589 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 9: And I tried stopping him. I was already at full draw, 590 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 9: and he whipped and looked square at me. And so 591 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 9: he's looking square. 592 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 10: At me, I'm not taking that shot. And then he 593 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 10: started to quarter away. 594 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 9: But it was still a hard quartering qu shot and 595 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 9: I put it right right in his armpit. 596 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 10: And you know, I didn't see him go down. 597 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 9: And this is probably something this is probably timely information 598 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 9: for everyone. 599 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 10: I did not see him down go down. 600 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 9: I got my arrow, and I felt it was a 601 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 9: good shot, but I was a little concerned with how 602 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 9: hard he was quartering too. If my shot was this 603 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 9: two inches further back, he was probably gonna be a 604 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 9: straight stomach shot. But it ended up being a heart, 605 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 9: lung and stomach shot, and there was not a lot 606 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 9: of lung blood or anything on the arrow. 607 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 10: It was mainly stomach. So I backed out. 608 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 9: Overnight, and then we got a dog, and then we 609 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 9: found the deer. You know, really only hundred and twenty 610 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 9: yards before I shot them, So we played it safe 611 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 9: and it worked out for nice. 612 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad that that went good for you. So, 613 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: you know, going forward, that was like the first week 614 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: in November. Right now we're kind of looking at somewhat 615 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: the second week in November. 616 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 3: Do you still feel like those deer. 617 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: Are going to be on that seeking type of activity 618 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: or would you think that guys might move in from 619 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: the field edge and go kind of more to the 620 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: thick stuff. 621 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 10: I think now. 622 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,719 Speaker 9: It's probably the time where you want to start going 623 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 9: to that big stuff. And a lot of the cameras 624 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 9: I have on food sources right now, there's still some 625 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 9: does in there, and there's some food sources that are 626 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 9: quite a bit, you know, a lot less activity than 627 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 9: maybe a week or so ago. And I have to 628 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 9: imagine that now is the time to get in the 629 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 9: classic down window vetting or really good. 630 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 10: Pinch and log hours. 631 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 9: And I think that's probably a really good tactic for 632 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 9: right now to hopefully get an opportunity at a buck. 633 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 10: You've been run it around season. 634 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, sweet man, I'm excited to tell you the truth 635 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: after talking to you about this stuff. If you had 636 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: to give the next week a ranking from a scale 637 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: of one in on buck movement, what would you give it? 638 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 11: Man? 639 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 10: So I would say historically, Ich. 640 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 9: So November third, November tenth to my favorite days. Obviously 641 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 9: November tenth is this week. So whether it's slightly biased 642 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 9: from past experience, I mean, I'm gonna get this thing 643 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 9: at nine out of ten. I think it's gonna be 644 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 9: really good week. 645 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 11: We have. 646 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 9: We have this front rolling in and I think those 647 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 9: really big deer are gonna start running around. 648 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 10: I know it's dependent on the country, but in. 649 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 9: Illinois, if you're listening, I would I would get a 650 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 9: little aggressive, and I would go log some hours at eight, nine, ten, 651 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 9: eleven and really enjoy it because it'll only be those 652 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 9: days once this year, believe it or not. 653 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 3: Mmm. 654 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: Man, I love it, dude, Thanks for the report, Thanks 655 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,239 Speaker 2: for the hot Let's go Jake, kill a big one 656 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: in an hour. 657 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 9: All right, fingers cross, good catching. 658 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: Up on the phone. 659 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 2: I have got Louisiana's own lay McNasty. You might have 660 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: seen him in some videos like how third grade Girls 661 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: Fight and other things, but the dude is also a 662 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: big buck killer. 663 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 3: Man. What's going on down there in Louisiana? 664 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 4: Oh, nothing much, just trying to wait on the big 665 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 4: ones down here. I just got back from Missouri. Now 666 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 4: I got to see if I can get it done 667 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 4: in Louisiana. 668 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 3: A hot dog. 669 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: Louisiana is one of those places that has like quite 670 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: a variety of rut dates. 671 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 3: Correct. 672 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 6: Oh, absolutely, So how. 673 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: Do you time that kind of stuff out? 674 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: You can you travel, like, you know, forty miles this 675 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: way and hunt a rut in early November, and travel 676 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: forty miles that way and hunt in late December and 677 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 2: have a rut? 678 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I actually believe you can. 679 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 4: I haven't personally done it, not that I wouldn't, but 680 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 4: I want to say I don't want to butcher it 681 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 4: or be wrong about it, but I think up in 682 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 4: northern Louisiana the rut might start a little bit earlier 683 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 4: where I'm from. It normally we can kind of rely 684 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 4: on the rut to happen around Thanksgiving, you know, like 685 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 4: I can't count the times I've seen a good buck 686 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 4: movement on Thanksgiving Day, and I actually killed one on 687 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 4: Thanksgiving last year. And I want to say, in December 688 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 4: that might be when bucks are running around down in 689 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 4: southern Louisiana. 690 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 3: And they all swamp bucks down there. That's cool. 691 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, so you've been out a little bit this week. 692 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: What tactics are you kind of hitting trying to catch 693 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: that pre red action? 694 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 3: You know? 695 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 4: Right now, I've been currently just wanting to see what 696 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 4: the deer moved are doing right now. Most of it's 697 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 4: just hunting creek bottoms where we know we've we've. 698 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 6: Got good pictures of deer traveling through. 699 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 4: But you know, right now, it's just been a lot 700 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 4: of dough still with their funds, you know, and younger 701 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 4: bucks cruising around eating. But we haven't I personally haven't 702 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 4: seen much of even the early. 703 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 6: Signs of the rut. 704 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 4: But that's always the case around this time in my experience. 705 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 3: Are you hunting food plots or acre trees or you know, 706 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 3: oak trees or whatever? You know how you will? Yeah, 707 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 3: what are you focused on? Well? 708 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 4: On our lease that we have, we actually have a 709 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 4: lot of success with I don't know if you've heard 710 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 4: of them brand bags. 711 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 6: We use a lot of rice bread, yeah, because. 712 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 4: Man, that that we've we've been using this per Simon 713 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 4: rice brand and it almost seems like that's just candy 714 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 4: to the deer there. Strangely enough, I've got another spot 715 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 4: I hunt to where brand doesn't work as well. So 716 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 4: I don't know these theer just seems so accustomed to 717 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 4: it here. 718 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: So you have to keep that stuff up off the 719 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 2: ground to where it then like it went or how 720 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: does that work? 721 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 3: We don't. 722 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 6: I mean, we've never had a problem with that. 723 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 4: If we do, where it does rain, like when you 724 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 4: go to your stand, we'll just walk out and kind 725 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 4: of kick out all the kind of solidified brand just 726 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 4: to kind of let the fresh brand fall. 727 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 6: But it's almost like. 728 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 4: A gravity bag that to where it kind of keeps refreshing. 729 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 3: Is Do you guys have percime trees in your area? 730 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 6: I think we do, but not. 731 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 4: I think I think I've kind of misheard what you 732 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 4: were saying. I thought you were talking about just in Louisiana. 733 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 4: I don't know if we have persimmon around where I'm hunting. 734 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 4: We might, but I don't think i've ever seen one. 735 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 3: Gotcha. Yeah, that was interesting because we did a test 736 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 3: on that with flavored corn a while back, and persimmon 737 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: did pretty well if I remember correctly in that video. Yeah, yeah, 738 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 3: we have persimmons around though, So I just wondered if 739 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 3: there was some sort of correlation between that, right. But anyway, 740 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 3: so you said the movement hasn't been You haven't seen 741 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 3: hardly any rut movement. Have you seen decent just bed 742 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 3: to feed, you know, normal daylight activity or is it 743 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 3: mostly at night? 744 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 6: Well, I mean. 745 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 4: We've got two I call them our shooter bucks. They're 746 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 4: two good deer ones, like a real tall browtie nine 747 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 4: point and a good looking ten. But most of theirs 748 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 4: has been night, but they have kind of come out 749 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 4: and started feeding. 750 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 6: I realized one of them came out at like. 751 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 4: This was before the umb change the other day, but 752 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 4: came out around like seven am to where if somebody 753 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 4: was in the stand they could have got them before 754 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 4: right after hunting shooting hours. 755 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 6: But right now, I don't know that. 756 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 4: It seems like we're in that stage right now to 757 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 4: where now the bucks are kind of the big mature 758 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 4: deer are kind of disappearing now because it always seems 759 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 4: like right before the rut, your buck want to kind 760 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 4: of disappear and stop coming to your food sources that 761 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 4: we put out. So I mean, right now it's just 762 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 4: been I think the last buck I saw when I 763 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 4: went hunting, like I think two days ago, was like 764 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 4: a good young eight. He was a big body deer, 765 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 4: but I'm still not even seeing you know, deer open 766 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 4: up scrapes around, But in my opinion, I think it's 767 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 4: a matter of time, maybe within this week, before you 768 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 4: start seeing all those signs like that. 769 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what I kind of want to ask 770 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: you about next is as this next week progresses, if 771 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: you start seeing scrapes pop up and stuff, is that 772 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: going to be something that you focus on? 773 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 6: Yeah? I think so. 774 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 4: During that time, I feel like it's very common to 775 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 4: kind of start seeing those cruiser bucks coming around and 776 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 4: just kind of wait on them to check on stuff 777 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 4: and you know all that stuff. 778 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. 779 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 2: So looking forward then, I know you mentioned like Thanksgiving 780 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 2: type rut, so we're still very much pre rut, but 781 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 2: that's ramping up every day. If you had to give 782 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 2: it a on a scale of one to ten, how 783 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 2: do you feel like buck movement will be back or 784 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: will be like over the next week. 785 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 6: In my opinion, I would probably give it like a seven. 786 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 4: Other people might disagree or agree, but I mean, I 787 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 4: would think it would be kind of like that week 788 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 4: to where you can really expect to see some different movement. 789 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a. 790 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 2: Good time to catch a deer on his feet slipping for. 791 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 3: The first time. 792 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 6: Huh yeah, absolutely, yeah. 793 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 3: Cool man. Well, hey, I really appreciate the report. 794 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 2: It's cool to get to talk to somebody from Louisiana 795 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 2: and keep it up day. 796 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 3: To look forward to some big buck pictures. 797 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 6: Awesome. I appreciate y'all getting in touch with me. 798 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 2: As we said before, the hype is real. It is 799 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 2: the second week in November. There is nowhere else you 800 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 2: should be except maybe your own wedding or the birth 801 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 2: of your child. Get in the woods right now because 802 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 2: the deer are going crazy all across the country. Tyler Jones, 803 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 2: my associate right here, my friend, my hunting partner, my buddy, 804 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 2: has definitely got his tab on the white tail end. 805 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 2: I do believe that Tyler Jones' feet. You're in an 806 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 2: article this past week North American wat Tail potentially. 807 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, try to pick a copy of that up. 808 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 3: We'll put a link to that in the description. 809 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 2: I think I think it's an online article or might 810 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: be a hard copy. 811 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. 812 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 2: I think you're like center your buck is centerfold in 813 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,720 Speaker 2: that thing. Yeah, speaking of spotlight and things. 814 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sorry man, good, No, that's yeah, it was 815 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 3: I was pretty surprised to find that out actually, but 816 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 3: that that's pretty cool, man. I think I think that's 817 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 3: pretty cool, you know. I mean, I'm gonna go get 818 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 3: me a hard copy because I think that the picture 819 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 3: I saw on social was a hard copy, but that 820 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 3: would be sick. Yeah, it's pretty cool, you know. Speaking 821 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 3: of articles, though they're on the Wired to Hunt feed 822 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 3: or whatever you want to call it on the website, 823 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 3: is a three day rut hunt plan from Dealing Tramp. 824 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 3: It's an article. You know, three days is what a 825 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 3: lot of guys get. Man take off on a Friday, 826 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 3: hunt through Sunday, or take off on you know, Thursday evening, 827 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 3: hunt Friday, Saturday, Sunday. That's what you got. So there's 828 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 3: three day rut hunt plan article there. It might help 829 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 3: you out, give you some thoughts, some creative juices, get 830 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 3: them flowing. And then also, we released a video on 831 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 3: the Mediator channel just now. If you're listening to this, 832 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 3: it's probably a day old or so, you should go 833 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 3: watch the video. Case C is featured in this video 834 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 3: as a guy smoking a big, old, just heavy toad 835 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 3: of an eight million point animal out in Nebraska. It's 836 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 3: an awesome video, little drama involved doing some new tactics 837 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 3: that you've never never encountered. 838 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 5: What you call it. 839 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 2: Uncomfortable, but it's just you know, people talk all the 840 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 2: time about getting out of your comfort zone, and it's 841 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 2: good for sure, But sometimes I don't realize what my 842 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 2: comfort zone is. I always think that like, oh, that 843 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: just means like doing something harder. Sometimes it just means 844 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 2: doing something a lot different than what you're used to. 845 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 2: And I definitely did that on this hunt and had 846 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 2: to kind of, you don't want to say, fly by 847 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 2: the seat of your pants, but definitely make adjustments to 848 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 2: what I was used to and. 849 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 3: I can't toss. 850 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 12: It was difficult for me too. I mean, shooting out 851 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 12: of them things was wild. Haybail blinds. If you never 852 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 12: hunted out of one, it's cool, but it's also it's 853 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 12: also very particular the way things work out of this. 854 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with some guy running a big shiny lens 855 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 2: behind you. There's not a lot of room and a 856 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 2: lot of hot air in there. 857 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 3: Breaths lots of breath anyway, man, thank you guys for listening. 858 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 3: I hope you enjoyed it. We'll be back next week 859 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 3: with more ret fresh radio reports from all across the country. Casey, 860 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 3: let's go kill some big old bucks. Let's do it. 861 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 3: This has been ret fresh, Keep it fresh.