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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, man, He's a literal titan across

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Speaker 3: He's a true icon in every sense of the word.

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Speaker 4: He's loved and feared more than any being.

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Speaker 5: To Grace's planet, there got.

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Speaker 1: A bead with a voice that sounds like Verry White,

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Speaker 1: God himself would pay thirty nine ninety nine for a cameo.

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Speaker 1: psychological nudity.

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Speaker 6: This is Stu Box and this is Stupidity.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, Jim Hody, Welcome into another episode of Stupidity,

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Speaker 2: We get bigger today, I mean we get bigger with

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Speaker 2: Mike Golig Senior. Fair to say, Michael Senior is a

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Speaker 2: co host of Stupidity at this point, Mikey.

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Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, well, you know, only when it becomes

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Speaker 7: you know, billing in the tweet or however it gets

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Speaker 7: sent out as a co host.

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Speaker 3: Other than that, I'm just some schmuck joining you every

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Speaker 3: now and then.

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Speaker 2: You know you're not a schmuck. And let me tell

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Speaker 2: you something. I'm throwing your name all over the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Listen, you're not throwing my name. You are. You're heaving

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Speaker 3: my name you are. You are dropping my name off

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Speaker 3: the largest buildings known to mankind and just splattering it everywhere.

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Speaker 3: But you know what, that's okay, that's okay.

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Speaker 8: You are projectile vomiting his name to the entire NFL.

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Speaker 3: That's probably the best.

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Speaker 2: I've only done it to Roger Goodell. I've always done

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Speaker 2: it to the chief for Andy Reid. And we're getting

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Speaker 2: all these people on, by the way, and since you

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Speaker 2: keep mentioning John Cali Parry every single time you're on

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Speaker 2: with us, I threw it at Kentucky as well, and

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Speaker 2: I think he's coming on.

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Speaker 6: I haven't that.

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Speaker 3: Like, I mean, is it a stunner that all these

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Speaker 3: people keep saying, yes, are you in like a new

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Speaker 3: world here? With what's going on? When people of this

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Speaker 3: power say yes, yes.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm so used to throwing out Levatard's name and

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Speaker 2: they say, get the fuck out of here.

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Speaker 3: But listen, they should understand. It's the it's the the podcast.

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Speaker 3: As you said, subscribe, rate, review, unsubscribed. I've done all that,

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Speaker 3: by the way, I figured out how to do all

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Speaker 3: that to try and help the best I can. Well,

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Speaker 3: exactly right when I say me, I being my wife

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Speaker 3: by extension, that's that's kind of how it works. I mean, seriously, studie,

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Speaker 3: did you know how to do the technical part of

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Speaker 3: this all the time or or how long did you

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Speaker 3: have to have your handheld?

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Speaker 6: I still have my handheld by Mikey. Yeah, hopefully what

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Speaker 6: I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: Although Mikey, hey, let me ask you this, and this

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Speaker 2: like I did last time?

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Speaker 6: But listen.

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Speaker 2: It is amazing the guests that are that are coming

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Speaker 2: am now affiliated with Mike Golig Senior. I am convinced

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Speaker 2: if I asked any of these people on my own,

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Speaker 6: But for you, Mike, they do anything. It's amazing well.

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Speaker 3: And the thing about it is we have great conversation

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Speaker 3: then when we start to get going and I know

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Speaker 3: That's when I start cringing a bit and wondering, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm done talking with Golick ever again.

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Speaker 8: I just feel bad because at the end of this goal,

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Speaker 3: Yes, Stu Gott's holding a lighter.

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Speaker 6: His backdrop should be a burn bridge.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell it. Not four years a notre name,

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Speaker 6: But at least you'll have me, Mike.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're hear in the background, is fucking Tim that's

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Speaker 2: No, I like to envision it as like that's Andy

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Speaker 6: It's like a it's like a forest full of coaches.

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Speaker 3: It is, and I just love it. I can't wait

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Speaker 3: till Nick Saban's on. Hey, Nick, how about at the

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Speaker 3: GOLICI quick man in the lake?

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Speaker 6: Wait, what's the game? We would play?

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Speaker 2: Mikey a for saving because like I maintained save out.

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Speaker 6: Oh you like that?

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Speaker 3: I do like that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but you don't like the questions that follow.

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Speaker 3: No, No, all of a sudden, my connection is gonna

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Speaker 6: Today.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be David Shaw trying to maintain your relationship. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that with a Stanford head coach. Pretty like

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Speaker 2: I've never spoken to David Shaw. I have heard David

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Speaker 3: And also, David is not like your typical I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: got a great smile to him. He gets players to

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Speaker 3: he treats He treats players incredibly well. And listen, there

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's that's actually very accurate.

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Speaker 2: You're right, like you have to just and if yourself

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Speaker 2: is not enough, then it's not enough. But you have

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Speaker 2: to be yourself because you're right, The players will read

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Speaker 2: right through that. All right, are you ready for the debut?

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Speaker 2: Before we get David Shaw here? Now, you're familiar with

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Speaker 2: the show that.

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Speaker 6: Me and your son used to do.

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Speaker 2: seven to nine am. It was a very difficult time

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Speaker 2: in our lives. I was on a bot Mitzvah circuit.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, when you're on the bot mitzva season,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Sunday mornings were brutal for you.

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Speaker 2: They were brutal. But I showed up to every show

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Speaker 2: and like your son, unlike Mike. Yeah, which was the

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Speaker 2: greatest show we ever did. When we were tracking down

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Speaker 2: Mike Collidge Junior, he was hung over you this this show.

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Speaker 3: It's okay, it was stunning. But all I can say

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Speaker 3: is the gist of this game is basically, you make

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Speaker 6: That is correct. What we would do now, I would

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Speaker 2: I would couch it under the umbrella of, Hey, Michael

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Speaker 2: Junior's young, he's up and coming in the business. Let's

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Speaker 2: get him some reps, Let's ask him a few questions.

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Speaker 2: And Mike thought I was doing a very nice thing.

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Speaker 2: But really what I was doing, because he didn't know

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Speaker 6: I was being lazy, Mike, That's all I was doing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So how are you couching it with me? I'm

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Speaker 3: a young up and comer and I need the rep that.

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Speaker 2: People want to hear Mikeelock Senior's voice. They want to

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Speaker 2: hear his opinions on football, and they do.

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Speaker 6: They really do.

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Speaker 3: Subscribe rate review on subscribe rate review again.

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Speaker 2: That's ay there it is, so mikey do you have

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Speaker 2: because what we used to do, mikey A is just

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Speaker 2: lob it up the gojo. We'd play a sounder called gojo. Right,

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Speaker 2: you have sounders here for got so right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I updated them a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Mike, Why you gave? Why are you why are you

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Speaker 3: Are you burrassed? Because when when you do something like

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Speaker 3: I'm going to hold my breath.

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Speaker 2: Wait, So, Mike, mikey A, do you want me to

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Speaker 6: Which way?

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Speaker 3: I think we should just I'll start to live with

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Speaker 2: I got up to eight eight eight, we had eight

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Speaker 2: We had one for for Junior, it was just gojo.

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Speaker 3: That was it. Yes, yeah, it was young. That's all

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Speaker 3: he deserved when you're that young. But I was producing

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Speaker 3: four shows, all right, so and only being paid for one.

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Speaker 8: As opposed to one and none.

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Speaker 2: The a f C team most likely to make it

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Speaker 1: Go so.

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Speaker 3: Wow. You know what I think. I think the next

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Speaker 3: in line is Buffalover. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: no no. But I'm not saying Buffalo because I'm adding

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Speaker 3: think the third best team could be the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 3: So if it's not Kansas City, listen, they are set up.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about like Josh Allen, but let's see

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Speaker 3: where he goes. Now we've seen the upside, we've seen

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Speaker 3: the downside, we've seen the upside of him. But I

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Speaker 3: something none of us can ever predict, they got a

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Speaker 3: real shot. Again. Everybody keeps saying they have a great

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Speaker 3: roster on paper, and they do, but a paper doesn't

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Speaker 3: get it done. I really do so. If it's not

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Speaker 2: The reason I love Buffalo because I love Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up Zach Wilson. Five years from

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Speaker 3: I feel like I should be on my knees looking

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Speaker 3: I think of the five, he looks the most. I

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Speaker 2: Just yet, Okay, I mean Aaron Rodgers gave him a

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Speaker 3: Of what we've seen in Vanilla defenses. But of the

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Speaker 3: Yes? Absolutely? And I've said this from day one that

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Speaker 3: And also, look who you said. These are guys that

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Speaker 6: Mike, there was a report over the weekend. I know

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Speaker 2: In fact, I'm certain of Trump any news that you

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Speaker 2: take thirty five minutes each hot dog off of your life. Well,

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Speaker 3: It will not stop me from eating hot dogs, absolutely

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm reporting my own report that the dirty water

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I still I'll have one every time I

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Speaker 3: I don't get shit without questions.

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Speaker 2: Steven A Smith filled in for Jimmy Kimble late Night Circuit.

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Speaker 2: Does steven A have a late night career in his future?

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Speaker 3: Ah?

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Speaker 2: Go, So you're an idiot, you know that, Mike. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: You know. I don't know. I saw some of it obviously.

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Speaker 2: of funny.

439
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Speaker 6: I'd standing up there on that stage alone at delivering

440
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Speaker 6: a monoligon.

441
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Speaker 2: Will make any man nervous, even one as great as

442
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Speaker 2: steven A.

443
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Speaker 6: Smith.

444
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Speaker 3: That's where you really got to lean on the writers

445
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 3: and get into it and make it sound I would

446
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Speaker 3: imagine as natural as possible. Listen, Green and I were

447
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 3: on David Letterman eleven times as guests. But flip that

448
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,919
Speaker 3: around and all of a sudden, if you're sitting in

449
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 3: that chair and, like you said, got to deliver the monologue.

450
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 3: The easiest part would be interviewing the guests, because hell,

451
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 3: we've done that, all of us have done that for

452
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Speaker 3: a couple of decades. I mean, could you imagine having

453
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Speaker 3: just just think of an incredible guest you can have

454
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Speaker 3: out there and all of a sudden you're pulling out

455
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Speaker 3: the flash cards, you know, and making them do math

456
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,199
Speaker 3: quizzes with you and stuff. I mean, that would be

457
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 3: awesome late night stuff. I think it would be cool

458
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 3: as hell, quick man, you know, quick quick math. So

459
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 3: it would just be getting through that monologue. And I

460
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 3: would imagine for like a stephen A or others, it

461
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 3: would be like anything else reps. The more you do it,

462
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 3: you know, the more comfort you're gonna heal. I would

463
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Speaker 3: imagine that would have been the part he felt most

464
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 3: out of place, other than you know, because because interviewing people, hell,

465
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Speaker 3: that's we've all been doing that.

466
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Speaker 2: Yes, Mikey a who do you think who do you

467
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Speaker 2: imagine from sports media would be the best as a

468
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Speaker 2: late night talk show us Like it's I know, it's

469
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Speaker 2: a tough one. I gotta feel like Bob Lee would

470
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Speaker 2: be good for some reason. But the guy I would go,

471
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Speaker 2: Mikey c.

472
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Well, you gotta bring up Scott on

473
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Speaker 3: the Late Randy. Scott's a good one because because again

474
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Speaker 3: I don't think you put in the part about interviewing anybody,

475
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 3: because we've all done that. Who would have who has

476
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 3: the best kind of comedic, you know, timing and rhythm.

477
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Speaker 3: Randy Scott, that would be a good one. I think

478
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Speaker 3: that would be a really good one.

479
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Speaker 6: I mean, how quickly would Mikey c run out of

480
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Speaker 6: fucking material?

481
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god, cigarette.

482
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Speaker 6: That would be his whole act.

483
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Speaker 3: Fifty seconds into his monologue, he's throwing it to break.

484
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Speaker 2: All right, how'd you feel about the first effort airing

485
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Speaker 2: of GOSO?

486
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Speaker 6: How do you feel about it?

487
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Speaker 3: I used a lot of words, and you can use

488
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Speaker 3: as many words. So I think I think from your

489
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Speaker 3: I think I love the heartbeat. I think from your

490
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Speaker 3: side of it, it went well. Yeah, mission, Yes, from

491
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Speaker 3: my side of it. If I got paid by the word,

492
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be waiting for a monster check and waiting

493
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Speaker 3: I mean waiting.

494
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Speaker 6: Waiting, Yeah, I mean yeah. Feel free to call Levator

495
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 6: whatever you want.

496
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Speaker 3: I'm talking however you want. Jack.

497
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get speaking of guys who are getting paid.

498
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Speaker 2: I have two guys who are but David Shaw he's

499
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Speaker 2: getting paid. Let's get to the Stanford head coach.

500
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Speaker 4: Yeah like the beer.

501
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. I'll tell you. I got it during uh.

502
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 3: I got it during COVID last year when I was

503
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Speaker 3: finishing up the show with Trey and my son Mike

504
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 3: and my basement. We had our own studio, and uh,

505
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 3: so I thought, why shave, I'll try this and uh

506
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 3: the key was in the past when I tried this,

507
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 3: my wife laughed at me. But last year she didn't

508
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 3: laugh at me and said it kind of looks good.

509
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Speaker 3: So I said, Okay, that means I'm gonna keep it

510
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Speaker 3: for a while. There there you go.

511
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Speaker 4: Good for you.

512
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Speaker 3: How you doing, coach? All good?

513
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Speaker 5: I'm good. I'm good.

514
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 4: Midway and training camp about a little more than a

515
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Speaker 4: third in and uh, and doing well it was.

516
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Speaker 3: I was actually I have a house here in South Bend,

517
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 3: so I was actually up at Notre Dames. Uh practice,

518
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: they opened it up, and uh, it was just good

519
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 3: to see like a normal thing, you know, like a

520
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: normal practice with all the media there and such. I'd

521
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 3: imagine that's got to be a pretty cool feeling for you.

522
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Speaker 4: It's great, right we've had we haven't had open practice yet,

523
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 4: I think that's this weekend, but we've had the NFL

524
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Speaker 4: scouts come by where you know, it's been a long

525
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 4: time since they've been able to come out, and those

526
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Speaker 4: guys are probably the happiest guys because they tried to

527
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Speaker 4: do their jobs. Their jobs are on the line every

528
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Speaker 4: single year, and they couldn't go visit anybody last year,

529
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Speaker 4: so they're glad to be out. That's been fun, Coach.

530
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Speaker 2: Have you ever flirted with growing a beard? It seems

531
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Speaker 2: like there's no chance, right, you.

532
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Speaker 4: Know, I've got attachment issues, you know, not everything I

533
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 4: noticed that.

534
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So so from the from the point of my son,

535
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Speaker 3: who Mike is mad at me all the time because

536
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Speaker 3: I have a really good at it hair and at

537
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 3: thirty one, he doesn't. And there are those that tell

538
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: him the line. The line used on him is might

539
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 3: just come home, meaning just shave it off and admit that.

540
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 3: So is that where you are because you it looks great,

541
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: but you just have to say, okay, this is where

542
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 3: it's going and I'm just shaving it off.

543
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 4: I've honestly been shaving my head since I was in college.

544
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Speaker 4: Really yeah, so it really wasn't until you know, missed

545
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Speaker 4: about a week and a half or so I'm like, oh,

546
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 4: it's not all coming back in.

547
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Speaker 5: I didn't even know, honestly.

548
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 6: So you just left it looks good.

549
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 5: You've been doing it, you know, for twenty plus years,

550
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 5: so why not keep doing it?

551
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Speaker 2: That is so funny, Coach, I'm wondering how early because

552
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: your dad was a coach, and you've been a round

553
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: coaching and coaches and great coaches your entire life, Like,

554
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 2: at what age did you know that you wanted to

555
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: be a coach?

556
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 4: Well, that's that's a bit of a story. I had

557
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 4: actually denied that I was ever going to coach football.

558
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 4: You know, when you're a fifth year senior, which is

559
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 4: even more rare now. I mean, if you're good enough,

560
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 4: you leave it after your junior year, but when you're

561
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 4: a fifth year senior, Uh, in the same offense. I

562
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 4: knew the whole offense. I knew all three receiver positions,

563
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 4: I knew the quarterbacks reads. So I was like another

564
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 4: coach on the field. So some of the younger guys

565
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 4: started calling me coach Shaw, and I actually took offense

566
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Speaker 4: to that. It was like, hey, this this old guy

567
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 4: that can't run as fast as we can. You know,

568
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 4: he's telling us what to do. So I always deny that,

569
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: And i'd had some of the coaches and my coach,

570
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 4: Mike Wilson, who played for the forty nine ers, had

571
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 4: said it. You know, guys, you'd make a good coach.

572
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not going to coach like I've been

573
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 4: doing internships to these financial financial places, Like I'm going

574
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 4: to do have a real job you know with you know,

575
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 4: working working with money, and like it's going to be great.

576
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 3: Uh.

577
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 4: And then when I graduated, I'm a good friend of

578
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:56,719
Speaker 4: my dad's Robin Ross was up at Bellingham, Washington and said, hey,

579
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 4: we need a coach's assistant if you're interested. And I

580
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 4: would just wasn't ready to put on a tie, so like,

581
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 4: you know, let me let me mess around with this

582
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 4: for a little bit before I get a real job.

583
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 4: And then, like most things, day one on the job,

584
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 4: I was like this is it? Like I can't do

585
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 4: anything else, Like this is what I've been that my

586
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 4: life has prepared me to do. And I knew I

587
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 4: was this is what I was gonna do.

588
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 3: Boy, that's a that's a commitment. I'll never forget. Retiring

589
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 3: and Bud Carson was my coordinator. I mean, what a

590
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: legend he was. He actually called me up when I

591
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 3: retired and he said, listen, I think he could be

592
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 3: a pretty good coach. He was in Saint Louis, and

593
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: he goes, I want you to come be an assistant

594
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 3: D line coach, I said. Coach, I love you, I said,

595
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: But when I get there in the morning, you're already there.

596
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 3: And when I go home, you're still there, I said.

597
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: And you Wikipedia. You Wikipedia any coach, and you see

598
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 3: stop after stop after stop. I mean, it's just like

599
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 3: you said, you kind of fought it in the beginning,

600
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 3: but then you just give yourself to it. But it is.

601
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 3: It can be a very nomadic life.

602
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 4: Right absolutely. And it's the reason why my mother kind

603
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 4: of denies it. When I told her I was going

604
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 4: to take this job up in Bellingham, Washington, she cried,

605
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 4: It's like, no, haven't you witnessed a you witnessed our lives,

606
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 4: like all these stops that you know, one year at

607
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 4: Oregon and five years at Arizona State and then four

608
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 4: years into the Detroit Lions and back to California. And

609
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 4: but when you when you when you know that you

610
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 4: fill it in your bones, then you accept whatever difficulties

611
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 4: come with that. You know it's it's on the it's

612
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 4: worse to actually chase something that you're not really inclined

613
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 4: to do, but you want.

614
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 5: All the stuff that comes with it.

615
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 4: You know, it's better to find the thing that you're

616
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 4: passionate about and then you have no problem dealing with

617
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 4: the difficult.

618
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: What was it so you stepped on that practice feel

619
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Speaker 2: for the first time as a coach, And what was

620
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: it about that day that said, hey, I'm going to

621
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: do this.

622
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 4: Correctly, so very very transparent. It was the yes, being

623
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 4: on the grass. Right when you're done a plane, you

624
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 4: kind of think that's your last time, but it's being

625
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 4: on the grass, which was great. I knew that was

626
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 4: going to have those feelings. But this may sound but

627
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: that sense of responsibility. I've always felt that I liked responsibility.

628
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 4: I like think being on my shoulders and to have

629
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 4: a group of guys I was coaching outside linebackers and

630
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: strong safeties, a group of guys looking at me, look

631
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 4: saying okay, coach, what do I do now? And the

632
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 4: fact that I had the answers. And I always draw

633
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 4: the parallel between coaching and teaching. And coaching we kind

634
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 4: of get the wins and we get the victories, which

635
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 4: are great. But the other thing that we have in

636
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: common with teachers really is that feeling of when you

637
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 4: help somebody do something they couldn't do before. And that

638
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 4: satisfaction that you get right when you talk to had

639
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 4: a conversation with our young offensive lineman yesterday. I just

640
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: running outside and zone versus a three technique and if

641
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 4: you try to walk around it like you can't, you can't.

642
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 4: The running back doesn't know where to go. But if

643
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 4: you stand on your track and hit your landmark. And

644
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 4: I made him stand it back at the running back

645
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: and I said, look in his face, said, oh that's

646
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 4: why you guys want me to do that. Now the

647
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 4: running back will be able to read my block easier.

648
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: And like that sense as a teacher, as a coach,

649
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 4: you're like, yes, now, this kid's like, okay, great, I'm

650
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 4: gonna stop getting yelled at for doing it wrong, Like

651
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 4: I get it now, and now we're to have a

652
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 4: chance to be successful. So that coaching teaching thing for me,

653
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 4: it's it goes through my whole family and uh and

654
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 4: and that satisfaction. So even day one on the on

655
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: the job, teaching a guy you know, how to maintain

656
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 4: leverage and not let the quarterback get out and he says, okay, great.

657
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 5: And he goes out and does it right and he

658
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 5: comes back to you. It's like, yeah, I got it.

659
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 4: You know that that feeling is something that I think

660
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 4: all true coaches really really seek.

661
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: Kind of a nice thing when you see their eyes

662
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: light up a little bit. That is very cool for

663
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 3: you though. I mean, a couple of years into coaching,

664
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 3: you started all of a sudden, you know, you're in

665
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 3: the NFL. You know you're coaching between the Eagles and

666
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 3: the Raiders and the Ravens and and and such. So

667
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: you're there for a while before you're back into college.

668
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: And now you've been a head coach here at Stanford

669
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 3: for what ten eleven years, so you know your name

670
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 3: always comes up. You know it's like, will he make

671
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 3: that jump back? Will he make that jump back? What

672
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: is what is your thought process on that? Is it

673
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: a thought process at all? Is it a I'll see

674
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: year by year.

675
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 4: I never see never, just because I'm a coaches did

676
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 4: and I've seen the craziest things, right, We've all seen

677
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: the coaches that say I'm not leaving.

678
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 5: I'm not leaving, I'm gone.

679
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 4: So I never say never. That's not a shot at

680
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 4: anybody in particular. This has happened a lot.

681
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 6: I never leave where you're at my coach. I mean,

682
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 6: I've been to Stanford.

683
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: That's the nicest place in the country.

684
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, what I've learned watching living through my dad's career

685
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 4: and even into my career and all the guys that

686
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 4: I've known and watched. The thing that gets us in

687
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 4: difficult situations as coaches is we start chasing things. You

688
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 4: chase money, you chase that perfect job that you think

689
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: is the perfect job, and sometimes you end up leaving

690
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 4: what was the perfect job for a job that was

691
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 4: imperfect or one that you're not suited for. So I've

692
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 4: always enjoyed every stop. I've never tried to leave any

693
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 4: place that I've been and this place is special to

694
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 4: me being at Stanford alone, playing football here, actually played

695
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: three sports here, spent a lot of time here, and

696
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 4: my wife loves it here. So we're great here. And

697
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,479
Speaker 4: on top of that, we've had a lot of success

698
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 4: and where I think we're actually building a really good

699
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 4: football team with some guys in the future that I'm

700
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 4: going to want to coach. So I never say never,

701
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 4: but I also don't chase it. And the other thing

702
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 4: I tell people all the time, as you mentioned, like

703
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 4: the my college, my coaching career is different than those

704
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 4: college coaches where they build that college resume and then

705
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 4: back of their minds like, man, I wonder if I

706
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 4: can make that jump or I want to make that jump.

707
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 5: I'm sitting here.

708
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 4: I coach nine years in the NFL, so I don't

709
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 4: have that itch that I need to scratch. I've coached

710
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame players, all Pro players. I've coached in

711
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 4: every level except for the Super Bowl. So I've been

712
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 4: there and I felt that and it was great. So

713
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 4: now I love where I am. And when you love

714
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 4: what you're doing, you love who you're with, there's no

715
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 4: reason to look any place.

716
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 3: I think with all that it all sounds great, but

717
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: I think you really buried the leader or glossed over it.

718
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: My wife likes it here. That's the key, much much

719
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: like your story with you.

720
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 5: When she's good and coach.

721
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: With all that said, I'm wondering, what's the closest you've

722
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: come to leaving Stanford. Has there been an opportunity where

723
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: you were, like really thinking about it.

724
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 4: So when I got this job, and I was so

725
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 4: excited to have it, I'm coach Harbaugh left and I

726
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 4: was I was ecstatic. I told my agent at the

727
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 4: time I said, nobody gets to me. So anybody who

728
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 4: calls you, you say thanks, but no thanks. And if

729
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 4: it's if it's if it was an owner, great, then

730
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 4: I'll I'll write him a thank you lover letter later.

731
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 5: But I've never entertained anything.

732
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 4: I've never gotten on the phone with anybody who has

733
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 4: an open who has an open job. That's been one

734
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 4: of my things, right, because the rumor mill is brutal,

735
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 4: especially when you're a college coach and recruiting guys and everybody, Oh,

736
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 4: we hear you're talking to so and so.

737
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 5: So.

738
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 4: In my ten going on eleven years, I've never had

739
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 4: a conversation with a franchise that has an open job.

740
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 6: Coach, Are you worried at all?

741
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: We had this, We had this conversation just the other

742
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: day with Tom Allen, the head coach at Indiana. Are

743
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: you worried about a kid missing practice because he's got

744
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: an appearance at the local Advance Auto Ports?

745
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 6: Like, how does that work for you?

746
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 9: Well?

747
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 5: This nil thing has been interesting.

748
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 4: There there's a lot of there's a lot of smoke

749
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 4: right now and not a lot of fire. So there's

750
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 4: a couple of guys that have gotten like really, these

751
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 4: really ridiculous deals. Most of these guys, it's been common

752
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 4: sense things, right. They've got some Internet stuff they're doing.

753
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 4: They're selling some jerseys and doing some autographs and all

754
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 4: that stuff. It's cool. But for our guys, there's a

755
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 4: phrase that you know, my parents used to say that

756
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 4: I heard back when I was growing up a lot.

757
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 4: Keep the main thing, the main thing. You know, you

758
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 4: come to Stanford to play football and graduate. Those are

759
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 4: two things I harp on all the time. Anything else

760
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 4: is secondary or third in line. So our guys get that.

761
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 4: They understand that our guys have signed some pretty cool

762
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 4: deals and different things that they're doing, which is I

763
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 4: think is really fun. I think it's added some spice

764
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 4: to the life as well as a little bit of

765
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: pocket change, which is all you really want.

766
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 5: You're in college.

767
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 4: We don't, We're not. These guys shouldn't be trying to

768
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 4: be millionaires. I think some of these guys that have

769
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 4: some of these deals, I wonder about these companies that

770
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 4: or these people that are giving these money, Like that's

771
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 4: not a good business model to give somebody a whole

772
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 4: bunch of money. You're not getting anything back for it.

773
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 4: So I think a lot of the stuff is going

774
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 4: to die down. But you know, much as much like

775
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: I got a little bit of trouble down South, which

776
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 4: happens to me periodically, And I basically rephrase exactly what

777
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 4: Nick Saban said, right, and everybody ever got mad at me.

778
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 4: I said the exact same thing he did. He said,

779
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 4: he said, you know, the kids getting a whole bunch

780
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 4: of money because it's the strength of our program. He

781
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 4: basically said it himself. It wasn't the kid, it was

782
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 4: it was the program. And I said, I said, hey,

783
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 4: that's not market value, that's Alabama. It's exact same thing.

784
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 4: But ever got mad at me. But they're going to

785
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 4: be some of those things that stand out. I also

786
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 4: said that Nick is brilliant and that he hasn't done

787
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 4: anything wrong with the kid, hasn't anything wrong with Alabama,

788
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 4: has done anything own.

789
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 5: It's just where we are.

790
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 4: But yeah, some of those things will crop up, but

791
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 4: for the most most part, most of these student athletes,

792
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 4: they're gonna get a little pocket change, they're gonna be

793
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 4: able to have some more fun, have some more freedom,

794
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 4: and then we'll try to keep the main thing.

795
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 3: Now, Listen, you were one thousand percent right in what

796
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: you said just as Nick Saban. Everybody said, oh Nick

797
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: was trying to be sly there. Nick doesn't do anything

798
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: sly Nick. Nick was saying, hey, come to Alabama and

799
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 3: you can make some money before you missed up on

800
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 3: the field. I mean, and there's nothing wrong with that

801
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: at all. It turns into marketing.

802
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 6: No, unless David says it, Mike, then there's something wrong

803
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 6: with him.

804
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. So now you'll have players trying to compete

805
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: with the coaches and the side deals that they get.

806
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 3: But what you can do, you know, Tom Allen again

807
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 3: for IU would reference at and I wonder if it's

808
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: the same is for your players. You can educate but

809
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 3: can't facilitate. Is that kind of how it works.

810
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 4: That's how it's supposed to work. That's for those of

811
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 4: us that do it right. That's that's the way it works.

812
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 4: And our our if you can imagine our place, like

813
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 4: how many Fortune five companies have spawned from this plus right,

814
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 4: the education that we can give our people, the context

815
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 4: that we can that we can facilitate, uh, and they

816
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 4: can do their own thing. This is a great place

817
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 4: to be for us right in our Silicon Valley and

818
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 4: all this stuff going on it's been really good for us.

819
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 4: But at the same time, we don't cross the line.

820
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 4: We don't try to do anything or don't try to

821
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: promote something that's not true.

822
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: Your voice sounds very clear right now. We can hear

823
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: you very clearly. That was not the case for Tom Allen.

824
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: So I want to play this sound for you quickly

825
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: and then I have a quick follow up.

826
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Mike.

827
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 4: Well, you know, obviously it creates a lot of question marks.

828
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 10: I mean, I'm all for our guys being able to

829
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 10: maximize that opportunity. I just think we as coaches just like, hey,

830
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 10: where's where's the parameters? Where does it start, where does

831
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 10: it stop, where does it go? And and that's always

832
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 10: a big question. But at the same time, you know,

833
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 10: we're kind of all working our way through it, and

834
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 10: I'm just all about the guys being able to still

835
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 10: making about the team.

836
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: That to me is the key.

837
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: All right, coach, Well here's the question. What he said

838
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. How we said it absolutely matters. So that

839
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 2: was after three practices. Okay, I'm wondering how long will

840
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: it take for your voice to be worse than Tom Allen's.

841
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 4: I'll be honest, and you can ask anybody who's coached here,

842
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 4: anybody who's ever played here.

843
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 5: My voice never gets that way.

844
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: Really yeah, if I get if I need to get

845
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 4: somebody's attention, which I had to do the other day,

846
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 4: I will stop practice and get his attention. And when

847
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 4: I get his attention, I don't need to yell. We

848
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 4: get we get close, we have a little private conversation.

849
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 4: I make my point, and then we move on. So my, my, my,

850
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 4: I don't have the emotional ups and downs like a

851
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 4: lot of coaches do.

852
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 3: I don't.

853
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 5: My voice doesn't carry.

854
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 4: So basically what I have to do, I'll bul the

855
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 4: whistle and make everybody stop, and I'll get the person's attention.

856
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 4: I need to get attention, and then, uh, you know,

857
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 4: I'm also a big fan of like nothing motivates like

858
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 4: the bench. You know, I'm not gonna do a bunch

859
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 4: of yelling and screaming. I'm like, hey, if you don't

860
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 4: get it right, I got a guy right over there

861
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 4: that'll do it. So it's not on me, it's up

862
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 4: to you. I'm not gonna raise my voice. I'm just

863
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 4: gonna put the other guy in and every once in

864
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 4: a while, because I am very understated, everyone, So I

865
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 4: have to remind people that I'm running the show. So

866
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 4: I'll just quietly say, nobody on this field is going

867
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 4: to dictate playing time except for me. So I'm the

868
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 4: one that you got to impress. And if you don't

869
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 4: do what I ask you to do, I'm just gonna

870
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 4: put the other guy in. I love you to death,

871
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 4: but you're gonna watch the game on sideline next to

872
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 4: you many And if a guy's not motivated by that,

873
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 4: then he's at the wrong place.

874
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: That's exactly right. Speaking of motivation, I always go back

875
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: to my days, which are obviously decades ago. There was

876
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 3: a lot of when you when you messed up in practice,

877
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: there was running. Is that still done? I mean you

878
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: say you can throat with playing time and that, and

879
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 3: that's cool, But in that moment, is there that Okay,

880
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: y'all got too extra running and do right now?

881
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 4: Well, there are certain n C double A rules that

882
00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 4: have cropped up since you play.

883
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: It was the Wild Wild West.

884
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's some liability issues that we have to contend with.

885
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 4: So for me, I tell you that the two things,

886
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 4: the two things right, the punishment. There's still nothing like

887
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 4: elbows and toes, right, it's just elbows and toes, and

888
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 4: we're gonna sit there for up to five minutes if

889
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 4: I feel like it, and just to be on your

890
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 4: elbows and toes and starts trembling. And then besides that,

891
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 4: like just like I said before, you're just out right,

892
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 4: you're just out. Somebody else is in. And I'll let

893
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 4: you sit there and seethe right and say, okay, if

894
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 4: if you get a chance to go back out there,

895
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 4: it better be done right or you may never go

896
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 4: back out there again. And if we need to get

897
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 4: mom and down on the phone, that's great. You know

898
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 4: they're going to be on my side.

899
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 3: So I don't.

900
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 5: I don't do the up and down. I don't.

901
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 4: I don't feel the need to overly punisch guys. And

902
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 4: what's different also nowadays is we got the guys all

903
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 4: summer right. Our guys are in great shape. I do

904
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 4: say this though, And I'm from a household of teachers.

905
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 4: My mom was a teacher, my dad's of course, was

906
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 4: a coach who started off as a teacher. My sister

907
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 4: is a teacher. My brother is doing like you know,

908
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 4: counseling and stuff with people. So that's just kind of

909
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 4: our whole deal. I've never yelled a guy for making

910
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 4: a mistake. Some of our coaches do. I just take

911
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 4: for granted the guy's not trying to make the mistake.

912
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 4: I'll just correct a mistake. I will raise my voice

913
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 4: and raise the temperature of practice if I think there's disrespect. Right,

914
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 4: you push a guy in the back, you hit a

915
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 4: guy that's not looking, you know, you tackle a guy

916
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 4: in a drill that's not a tackle drill. Okay, we're

917
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 4: gonna have one of those close conversations because you made

918
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 4: a bad decision. You know, mistake is one thing. Bad

919
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 4: decisions are other other things. So yeah, you guys, you

920
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 4: guys will see me. I'm the same on game day

921
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 4: as I am right now, as I am in practice.

922
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: I think my team counts on me being this same

923
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 4: person at all times.

924
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: I used to do that coach and when it was

925
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 3: don't go to the ground, they accidentally went to the ground,

926
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 3: and I used to say, I just tripped as I

927
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 3: was trying to hold him up with that. Would that

928
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: fly with you?

929
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 5: I had to.

930
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 4: I had to tell the player the other day. I've

931
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: watched a lot of football because and you know, and

932
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 4: I'm not kidding, dead serious, that was exactly what he

933
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 4: said to me. I'll coach I tripped, Yes, a coach

934
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 4: I tripped.

935
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 5: I said, no, you.

936
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 4: Didn't trip while you were grabbing him from behind and

937
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 4: dragging him down on the ground. Right, I've watched a

938
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 4: lot of football. I know the difference between tripping and tackling.

939
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 4: But you know, but at the same time, everybody's pat

940
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 4: it up. But it's it's also that control, right, If

941
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 4: you ever lose control, if you're ever too angry or

942
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 4: too upset, or too passionate or too motivated, then it

943
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 4: becomes more about you than about the team. And that's

944
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 4: the big thing that I want to correct. It's not

945
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 4: that the guy might get hurt. Sometimes it is, but

946
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 4: it's more like, hey, can you play within the rules

947
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 4: that are set for you or are you always going

948
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 4: to be one of those guys that's always doing something extra?

949
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 3: Now?

950
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 4: Your reliability? Now you might as well pay for a

951
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 4: ticket because you ain't playing.

952
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 6: Where'd you where'd you get this style from?

953
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 3: Though?

954
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: Because it wasn't Jim Horbo, right, it had to be

955
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: Bill Walsh, Like, there's no Jim was screaming at.

956
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: Everyone, wasn't he?

957
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jim and I have very different palities, which which

958
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 4: I always say, is not a negative. And Mike, I

959
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 4: hope you I think you understand this. I've heard you

960
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 4: know ice every morning Special when on the East Coast,

961
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 4: I listen to Mike and Mike in the morning like

962
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 4: for years. You understand this. The most important thing, my

963
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 4: opinion is a football coach is to be be who

964
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 4: you are and be authentic. Right the moment a player

965
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 4: thinks that you're shining them on, you're trying to tend

966
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 4: to be something else, You're trying to trick them, you

967
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 4: lose them forever. So like Jim was Jim and you

968
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 4: appreciate that he's going to be him, I'm going to

969
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 4: be me. And I think that's where you start to

970
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 4: connect with players because they get a chance to see

971
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 4: who you really are. So my style is a lot

972
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 4: in my own personality and certain things that I have

973
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 4: adopt from a lot of people that I've been around

974
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 4: or that I've been coached by. I mean, I was

975
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 4: coached by Brian Billikhu's my receivers coach that I worked

976
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 4: for him in Baltimore, and his organizational structure is unbelievable.

977
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 5: The late great Denny Green.

978
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 4: Was was my college coach, and Denny's ability to cut

979
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 4: through straight to the heart of the problem, like I

980
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 4: don't have time, I'm not going to get I'm not

981
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 4: going to say fifty words. If I mean five, I'm

982
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 4: going to say five and you're gonna get it like

983
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 4: that that I try to get that from from Denny.

984
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 4: What I love from Bill, and I try to emulate that.

985
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 4: I just I'm not gonna lie. I can't quite get there.

986
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 4: Bill's ability to be the master of the offense and

987
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 4: at the same time the master motivator slash manipulator. The

988
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 4: Bill was so great at But but what I tried

989
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: to pull it down to is Bill got to know

990
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 4: each guy and what it took to get him motivated

991
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 4: or what to get to get through to him, because

992
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 4: he treated everybody differently, treated them how they were supposed

993
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 4: to be treated in order to get that result that

994
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 4: he was looking for. So I've learned a lot from

995
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 4: a lot of different people, but I always maintain my

996
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 4: own personality to make sure the guys know this is me,

997
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 4: this is authentic. I'm not doing anything other than trying

998
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 4: to help you be your best team.

999
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, like you said, there are different styles when

1000
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 3: I was playing, I remember talking to the guys from

1001
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 3: the Cowboys. Jimmy Johnson had those guys in pads at

1002
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. I mean that was just his style.

1003
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 3: But guess what, they put rings on their fingers. So

1004
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 3: and there are other coaches that put rings on their

1005
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: fingers that weren't that style. So it's whatever works. I

1006
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 3: agree with you. It's players can see through the bullshit,

1007
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 3: you know, and they know who's authentic. Along those lines,

1008
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: I want to get into the realignment stuff, but I

1009
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: want to talk about your team for a second. And

1010
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 3: you talk about being a teacher. So last year, it's

1011
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 3: obviously you know who went through. You get six games in,

1012
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: you lose your first two, win your last four. So

1013
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 3: as a teacher, do you use last year as teachable

1014
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: moments going into this year or is it just last

1015
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 3: year was what it was and let's just put it

1016
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: aside and start completely new.

1017
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 4: I think life is full of teachable moments if you

1018
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 4: look for them, and last year was almost really easy.

1019
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,479
Speaker 5: The hard part was making sure that you.

1020
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 4: Understand that we're in the ad D society, Like I

1021
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 4: can't give fifty lessons from last year. I got like

1022
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 4: picked the top couple that are easily translatable, and the

1023
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 4: top one really for those guys that were with us

1024
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,959
Speaker 4: in particular, right, only it was only us, the forty

1025
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 4: nine ers really in San Jose State that understood what

1026
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 4: we went through getting shut down from your county and

1027
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 4: getting kicked out of the county. Right the San Jose

1028
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 4: State's practicing all over the place. We're practicing in the Northwest,

1029
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 4: all over the place, and forty nine ers are down

1030
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 4: in Arizona. But the biggest lesson was if you were

1031
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 4: passionate about the game of football, then you love the

1032
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 4: game of football, then you will put up with whatever

1033
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 4: it takes to get there, to.

1034
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 5: Get the game dack right.

1035
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 4: At one point, we're testing nine times a day for COVID,

1036
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 4: nine times a week for COVID. Right, we're testing nine

1037
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: times a week. We can't practice here. We have to

1038
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 4: practice there. We need three buses so we can spread

1039
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 4: everybody else. We can't be next to each other. We

1040
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 4: have to do this, we have to do that. And

1041
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 4: we're like, hey, whatever it takes, guys. And I started

1042
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 4: quoting my mom from when I was a kid, and

1043
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 4: it was pretty simple, which was whatever you're given to

1044
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 4: do and whatever you choose to do do with all

1045
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 4: your might and do with a smile on your face, like,

1046
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 4: let's not let the other things drag us down. Let's

1047
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 4: not let the counties regulations or Stanford's regulations or the

1048
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 4: PAC twelve protocols. Don't let any of that drag us down. Guys,

1049
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 4: we get to play football, right if you love it

1050
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 4: and you're passionate about it, then you go over all

1051
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 4: the speed bumps, you'd go through all the little things

1052
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 4: it takes to get there, and you get to game

1053
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 4: day and you get to do it. So that was

1054
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 4: that was kind of my consistent message. And our guys

1055
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 4: were awesome the entire week, which is sort of the

1056
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 4: entire season, which is why we ended up with a

1057
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 4: four game win streak, all four wins on the road.

1058
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 4: Our quarterback got a false positive, so he missed the

1059
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 4: first game and they couldn't practice the entire next week,

1060
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 4: and he looked like at the first half, and he

1061
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 4: really turned it on the second half. So it was

1062
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 4: one of those deals where we had so many speed bumps.

1063
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 4: But I couldn't have been more proud of any team.

1064
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 4: It's one of the most proud I've been of any

1065
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 4: football team because of all of the difficulties, and we

1066
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 4: practiced with energy, and we played with energy, and we

1067
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 4: didn't play perfectly, but those last four games, they were

1068
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 4: all contested at the end, and sometimes those are the

1069
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 4: best teams that maybe we're not perfect, but when the

1070
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 4: game's on the line, we're going to make those game

1071
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 4: change in plays. And I was excited to be a part.

1072
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 8: Of Coach Texas and Oklahoma They're headed to the SEC.

1073
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 8: And then that starts the floodgates of every school and

1074
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 8: every conference calling each other trying to figure this thing out.

1075
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 8: How do you feel about all this realignment? Where do

1076
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 8: you think the PAC twelve then's up?

1077
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 4: So if you imagine I've answered this question a bunch

1078
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 4: of times and I had to really sit and think

1079
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 4: about it, here's here's my approach.

1080
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 5: Two things.

1081
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 4: Number One, I'm a coach's kid, like Mike you and

1082
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 4: you mentioned it too, like things have changed over the decades.

1083
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 4: There's always change in college athletics, in particular over the

1084
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 4: last five to seven years, with rules changes and health

1085
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 4: issues and lawsuits that have happened on the NCAA, all

1086
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 4: kinds of different things. So kind of used to things changing.

1087
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 4: Number Two, My dad coached in the seventies here on

1088
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 4: the West Coast. He coached in the Pack eight, and

1089
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 4: then he coached in the Pack ten. I played in

1090
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 4: the Pack ten. Now I'm coaching in the Pac twelve.

1091
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 3: Right.

1092
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 4: So conference adjustments are going to happen. They're going to

1093
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 4: continue to happen over time. Some of them are monetarily driven,

1094
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 4: some of them are who knows what's driving them. Let's

1095
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 4: caused some of these backroom conversations that have led to

1096
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 4: some big changes. But my feeling is it's all going

1097
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 4: to settle down.

1098
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 5: Eventually.

1099
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 4: Everybody's going to get and sit down in a chair

1100
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 4: and we're going to continue to play this great game.

1101
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 5: There will be trickle.

1102
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 4: Down issues, whether other teams joined this conference or somebody

1103
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 4: tries to leave this conference joins join another conference. All

1104
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 4: that stuff, I believe is going to settle down, and

1105
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 4: then we're going to get used to the new normal.

1106
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 4: If you told me ten years ago that Colorado and

1107
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 4: Utah were going to be in the Pack ten and

1108
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 4: make it the Pack twelve, let's say, come on, you know,

1109
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 4: but now who we are and it feels natural, it

1110
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 4: feels great right by proximity, it's really cool. Now looks

1111
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 4: like proximity is not gonna matter when it comes to conferences.

1112
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 4: So now like all that stuff has to shake itself out.

1113
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 4: So I try not to worry about those things. Try

1114
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 4: to have our guys keep our level heads. Here. We're

1115
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 4: playing great football and getting ready to graduate and let

1116
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 4: the rest of college football kind of fallward.

1117
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: It may coach, if you don't mind indulging us, we

1118
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: have two quick games. You've been very generous with your time.

1119
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 2: We'll get you out of here in just a second. Okay,

1120
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 2: here is game number one. It is called Walsh Green

1121
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 2: or Horbaugh. Okay, are you down with this game?

1122
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 5: Okay, let's do it.

1123
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: Okay, best gift giver Walsh, Denny Green or Jim Horbaugh.

1124
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 4: I would have to say Bill Denny was too busy

1125
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 4: going forward like Denny never like stopped and slowed down.

1126
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 4: It was your birthday. You might get a happy birthday

1127
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 4: on his way out the door. Jim was always juggling

1128
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 4: a bunch of different things like that wasn't a big

1129
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 4: deal to Jim.

1130
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 5: But Bill, Bill may give you a gift, but there's

1131
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 5: gonna be a reason for it. Right.

1132
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 4: He was either trying to get something out of you

1133
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 4: or get you in a mentality to make sure you

1134
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 4: get your job right. Yes, there was going to be

1135
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 4: if he's going to do something for you, there was

1136
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 4: going to be a purpose that you maybe didn't figure

1137
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 4: out until ten years later.

1138
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 3: That's why he.

1139
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 5: Gave that to me. Oh, I get it right.

1140
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,959
Speaker 4: And if you tell that to anybody who's ever played

1141
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 4: for Bill, they will crack up laughing, and they'll have

1142
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 4: three stories for you.

1143
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 6: Oh that is amazing.

1144
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 2: In their prime who wins a fifty yard dash? Walsh,

1145
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: Green or Horbaugh in their prime?

1146
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 4: Coach really will be close Harball, because he'll trip the

1147
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 4: other two.

1148
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 6: You know, he told us the story once on our show.

1149
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: Does this surprise you about Jim Coach that on Halloween

1150
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 2: he has his kids go out in one costume, then

1151
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 2: they get all the big candy boys. You know this right,

1152
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 2: They come home and then he sends him out in

1153
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 2: different costumes to go do it again.

1154
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 5: There's there's no question about it.

1155
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 4: I've heard that story multiple times, and I wish that

1156
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 4: it is.

1157
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 2: Ed. He play the one you would most trust to

1158
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: create a solid financial plan for you and your family, Walsh,

1159
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: Green or harbop.

1160
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 5: Oh' that'd be a close one between Green and Bill Walsh.

1161
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 4: And maybe I picked Denny for that one because Denny

1162
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 4: was so meticulous and a lot of people don't know

1163
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 4: about Denny is. Denny Denny didn't grow up with money, right,

1164
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 4: Denny Is. If there's ever a self made man in

1165
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 4: this business, it was Denny Green. And he got himself

1166
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 4: from verge of homelessness to being the head coach making

1167
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 4: millions of dollars. And he was very, very wise and

1168
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 4: getting himself there.

1169
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: I think you'd select yourself based on what you told

1170
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: us earlier. By the way, best answer Walsh, Green or Harbor. Yeah, Mike,

1171
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 2: who do you think? Before he answers, who do you think?

1172
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: Of those three? I can see Denny Green just cutting

1173
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 2: it up at like a a I would go with Denny.

1174
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 3: Harball may move, but it would probably look like a

1175
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 3: lane from from Seinfeld, you know. So I would probably

1176
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 3: go with Denny on that.

1177
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 5: I would have.

1178
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 4: So I'll say this, no one would work harder at

1179
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 4: it than Gym.

1180
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: If it's a.

1181
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 4: Contest, no matter what it is, He's gonna outwork everybody.

1182
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 8: But again he's tripping everybody else.

1183
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 4: If it came to like modern dancing, I think Denny

1184
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 4: would be so smooth and great. If it came to

1185
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: like formal dancing, then you take Bill. Anything that is

1186
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 4: elegant and precise and beautiful.

1187
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 5: Bill would Bill anybody else to play.

1188
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 6: All right, best singer? Who's the best singer?

1189
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 5: I would say Bill.

1190
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 4: A lot of people that don't understand about Bill is

1191
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 4: that Bill one of the best football coaches of all time.

1192
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 4: Bill was also an entertainer, right, he at times you

1193
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 4: remind me of Dick Van Dyke, where it's kind of joke, joke,

1194
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 4: dead serious, get this right, then something silly, then something funny,

1195
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 4: then he's doing a little dance. Then he's wiggling in

1196
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 4: his head. And every meeting you were mesmerized. And sometimes

1197
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 4: he was mad at you and he's pulling, he's like

1198
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 4: about to reach in and grab your heart, and then

1199
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 4: sometimes you're you're in the aisles laughing. So I would

1200
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 4: say I would say Bill because he was the consummate

1201
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 4: football coach and the consummate entertainer.

1202
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: I think this goes without saying the one that would

1203
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 2: be most upset if they lost a board game.

1204
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 5: Oh God, is this even a conversation?

1205
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure that you all are are are

1206
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 4: fans of the TV show Blackish. Yes, there's there's one

1207
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 4: episode that me and my family have watched over and

1208
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 4: over and over again. It's an episode of them playing monopoly, uh,

1209
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 4: and and Andre flipping the board, you know, and and

1210
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 4: uh referring to himself as as as Donald Trump as

1211
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 4: he's amassed some money, and then everybody starts to hate him,

1212
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 4: and like you know, it's just starts complaining about Hillary's

1213
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 4: emails and blows the thing up.

1214
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 5: Is just you know, I think we let Jim win

1215
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 5: that one.

1216
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 4: Uh.

1217
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 5: He didn't like to lose anything.

1218
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 4: And and honestly, and then we're kind of making jokes here,

1219
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 4: but honestly, that to me was probably the biggest impression

1220
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 4: Jim made on me, which is I've always been competitive,

1221
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 4: and I was a John Gruden who's ultra competitive also,

1222
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 4: And but Jim's also one of those things like, hey,

1223
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 4: we're gonna find some way to compete every single day. Uh.

1224
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 4: And there's a danger to that, but there's also keeping

1225
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 4: everybody primed that I think helps so that that ability

1226
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 4: to be competitive and everything has been a big aid.

1227
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 5: And then sometimes you end up flipping the board over.

1228
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 6: Them, all right.

1229
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 2: Last one on this game, the one you would most

1230
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 2: trust with a big secret.

1231
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 6: Harbaugh Walsh, Deady Greed.

1232
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 5: Bill Wolsh.

1233
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 4: I got really close with with Billy, especially after after

1234
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 4: I was done playing. Outside of my dad, he was

1235
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 4: kind of my first advisor in this in this profession.

1236
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 4: I would meet with him every off season and he

1237
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 4: would always give me little nuggets, and he would always

1238
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 4: tell me something and something about him personally. I would

1239
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 4: tell him something about me personally. I knew that I

1240
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 4: knew that it was just going to him, that he

1241
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 4: wasn't gonna. Oh, you wouldn't believe what this guy said

1242
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 4: to me, right. I always felt like we could have

1243
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 4: those private, intimate conversations, and I think Bill did that

1244
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 4: for a lot of different people. So I would trust

1245
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 4: Bill with with.

1246
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: Anything, how quickly with the whole world though, if you

1247
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 2: told Horrorball secretly.

1248
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 4: Jim, Jim's got a way to get things out.

1249
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: So all right, last and just indulge us four more questions,

1250
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 2: Shaw or naw Okay, we'll just and Michael loved this

1251
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 2: catch up on steak shaw or naw never never?

1252
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 6: Thank you, Mike, how do you feel about it?

1253
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 3: I was just ad a very nice ablishment at a

1254
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 3: golf tournament instance, a very nice steak establishment and the

1255
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 3: person next to me got a steak, a beautiful rabbi

1256
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 3: and before they even cut it, they asked for some ketchup.

1257
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 3: And I'm like, hey, that blows my mind, but beat

1258
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,479
Speaker 3: taste it first. It may not, it may it looks

1259
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 3: it's the worst steak in the world. Where you want

1260
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 3: to want to fight or a ketchup? What are you doing? So? Yeah,

1261
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 3: I'm one hundred percent with coach on that.

1262
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, a one or barbecue saucer or something else, j

1263
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 4: like whatever you want, like, but yeah, not not catch,

1264
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 4: not catching. It's not a burger. No, sak's not a burger.

1265
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 2: I almost divorced my wife over that. I did catch. Now,

1266
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 2: how about ketchup on a hot dog?

1267
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 3: Shaw?

1268
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 4: Noah when I was younger. Yeah, Now, I'm a big

1269
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 4: mustard roits guy, not a boy.

1270
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: Yes, and that Listen. These are indelicate, but I have

1271
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: to ask them because our producer. I'm putting it on

1272
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: my key right now being in the shower shaw or gnaw.

1273
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 4: So at one point I was mortified by George Costanza,

1274
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 4: but now.

1275
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 5: I get it. But now I get.

1276
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 4: Those gentle references are always good around me, you know

1277
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 4: the whole get kind of getting kicked.

1278
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 5: Out of the out of the out.

1279
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 3: Of the club.

1280
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 5: But it's all pipes, right, That's just a pipes to me.

1281
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 3: It's you either admit that you do it, everybody does it,

1282
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 3: or if you say no, you're lying because in amazing.

1283
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 3: I've met a guy one time who said he's swimming

1284
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 3: the lake and wouldn't he in the lake? I'm like,

1285
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 3: why not? He said, I get out of the lake

1286
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 3: and go find a bathroom. I said, oh my god,

1287
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: what do you what are you thinking?

1288
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 6: How do we feel about being in the pool? Coach?

1289
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 5: Oh, that's a no go.

1290
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's when you're in the ocean and you're in

1291
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 4: the lake like it's understood, you know, but you're in

1292
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 4: a pool in particular, somebody else's pool.

1293
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 5: Hey, you know, take the little jaunt around the corner.

1294
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 3: Get that every pool chemical used everywhere. Should always have

1295
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 3: that to where it makes p turn purple, so everybody

1296
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 3: knows who's doing it in the pool.

1297
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: That would be great, that's a great our coach will

1298
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: get you out of here. But you're false. It was

1299
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: Saban who got mad at you. Did Saba get mad

1300
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 2: at you? Tell us that get mad at you.

1301
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 4: I think there have been varying times where maybe he

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Speaker 4: was a little not happy with me over different things.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's anything that other that that the

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Speaker 4: Alabama fans get mad at.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he really cares about some of that stuff, right, Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: but uh, I think I think I'd like to think

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Speaker 5: that we're we're.

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Speaker 2: Good okay, good, Uh coach, this has been great. We

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Speaker 2: appreciate the time. I can tell you now, Mike's gonna

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Speaker 2: be upset here, but me and mikey a, our producer,

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Speaker 2: will be rooting for you. November twenty seventh, Okay, when

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Speaker 2: you play Notre Dame, all right.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean percentages will say, you know, we we've

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Speaker 4: won more than we've lost, so you know.

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Speaker 3: We were isn't this We're about time? We got to

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00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 3: end this, don't we? Coach gotta go? I think, uh, coach,

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Speaker 3: we enjoyed this.

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Speaker 2: It was it was fantastic. Good yeah, good luck this

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Speaker 2: year and uh and we hope to do it again soon.

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Speaker 5: So thanks guys,