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The so amazing, so amazing, so amazing. 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:18.639 It's amazing addition, as the Bengals look to advance to 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:21.800 the Super Bowl for the second straight year by beating 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:25.599 the Kansas City Chiefs on their home field, coming up, 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:28.880 I'll talk to tight end Hayden Hurst and share where 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.960 I have him ranked among the greatest hurdlers of all time. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.120 We'll hear from Ted Carriss on the condition of his 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:40.080 injured knee, and discuss the remarkable performance of the Bengals 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:44.920 offensive line last week with NFL Network analyst Brian Baldinger. 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:47.760 And finally, in this week's No The Faux segment, we'll 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:51.240 get the skinny on the Chiefs from Adam Tisher, who 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:55.480 covers the team for ESPN. 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When 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.680 he got to training camp, a buddy back home in 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:40.160 Houston sent him a care package that included a hat 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:44.160 he had made that featured the word excuses in bold 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:47.760 white letters with a red slash through it. When Michael 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.680 wore that hat to camp, teammates like Sequon Barkley and 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.920 Eli Manning asked where he got it, and when he 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:56.400 wore it to a local mall, he got stopped by 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:00.480 several people asking the same question. So he started a 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:04.440 No Excuses clothing brand, and perhaps you've seen Bengals players 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:08.240 and coaches wearing hats and hoodies featuring that message this year. 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:12.160 If you're interested, you can check out the catalog at 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:17.200 No Excuses shop dot com. The gear not only looks good, 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:21.480 but it helps raise money for academic scholarships for kids 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:26.880 in Michael's hometown. Now let's get to football. The Bengals 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:30.280 have done a remarkable job in free agency in recent years. 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.880 In twenty twenty, they signed DJ Reader and Von Bell. 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:38.080 Last year they added Trey Hendrickson, Mike Hilton and chitubey 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.360 O Wooge. And this year they beefed up the offensive 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:45.520 line by signing Ted Carris, Alex Kappa, and L. L. Collins. 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.400 But that's not all they did this year. They also 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:52.240 signed tight end Haydenhurst to a one year, three point 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.079 five million dollar deal, making him one of the biggest 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.080 bargains in the league at his position. I caught up 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:03.480 with the twenty nine year old this week. All right, Hayden, 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.760 here is my current list of the greatest hurdlers of 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:11.839 all time. Edwin Moses number one, Ronaldo Niemiah number two, 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:16.600 Hayden Hurst number three. Last week of Buffalo, it's a 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.800 seven point game, about five minutes to go in the 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:22.280 third quarter, third down in ten. You go up and 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:25.240 over a defensive back for a key first down. The 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.920 Bengal score touchdown on that drive. Could you tell in 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:35.600 the moment the significance of that hurdle? Honestly, No. When 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:37.000 I get out there and I put my homet on, 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:40.320 I just I'm just having fun. Obviously, I know the situation. 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:42.040 It's third down, third and long, and I need to 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:45.200 get the first down. As far as like how crucial 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:47.280 in the moment it was, I didn't really cross my mind. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.400 I'm just trying to pick up first downs. Again, it's 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.040 kind of my mo here. I'm kind of the first 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.520 down guy. So you know, Joe checks it down and 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:55.200 trust me to go get ten yards and you know, 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.840 I go get twelve. I kind of saw him gathering 0:03:57.880 --> 0:03:59.480 himself a little bit. I knew he was gonna go low. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.120 You know, he's a dB, so when up top just 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.720 kind of I guess my thing, when do you make 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.280 that decision? It's really it's more of a reaction thing. 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:10.800 I think if you go into it being like I'm 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.440 gonna hurdle this guy, it's when you get dumped. I 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.960 definitely I learned my lesson in college. I got dumped 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.680 in college. So I mean, you get got every once 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:21.320 in a while in this game, but you know, I 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:24.719 get mine when I get got. So it's fun. Now, Well, 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:26.960 that kind of happened in the first Puffalo game. You 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:30.200 went to hurdle Jordan Poyer and he more or less 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.600 was standing up by the time you went airborne. It 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.279 was kind of a helmet to the butt collision. What 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.440 did you think when you watched the replay? I got 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.159 over him. He just grabbed my foot on the way down. 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.640 He asked me about it on Sunday. He was like, 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:44.760 he was like, you know what you got going on? 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.120 Trying to hurdle everybody? And I was like, I'll be honest, Jordan, 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:48.640 I black out. I have no idea what I do 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:51.159 out there. I just gotta have fun, man. He started laughing. 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:55.120 So we're talking to Hayden Hurst. Your hurdle moments have 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.400 gone viral, but so did a block you made in 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:00.880 the Tennessee game earlier this year, or you wiped out 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:04.120 Bud Dupree. I almost felt badly for him. When you 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.240 came here. You came with a reputation of being a 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:10.440 great receiver, not necessarily a great blocker. Was your reputation 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:14.000 wrong or have you vastly improved as a blocker this year. 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.400 I've definitely improved. You know, James kind of helped me 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.160 take my game in the run game to a completely 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.520 different level. But I mean, you can watch my tape. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.160 Since I've been the league, I've always kind of had 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.479 that chip on my shoulder. Just play physical. That's just 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:28.839 that's my mo. You know, when I line up in 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:30.960 front of a guy, I take it personal. You know, 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.320 I think he thinks that he's more outa than me, 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:35.880 stronger than me, better than me. So I take it personal. 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.200 And that's just what I do. I go fly around 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.359 and I don't really care about my body and whatever 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.200 it takes to win. You mentioned your tight Ends coach 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:48.240 James Casey. You guys seem inseparable, like you, He played 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:51.640 professional baseball before he ever played college football. I don't 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:53.480 know if that's part of the link, but what is 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.480 it between you two guys? We just get along very 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:58.560 very well. You know we've had we have the same 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:02.720 kind of background, similar or you know, same life experiences, UM, 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:04.960 and then mentally we're wired the same. You know, he 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.440 was a physical, you know, crazy, crazy player when he played, 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.919 you know, for the Eagles and the Texans UM and 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.039 that's I think that's why we hit it off so well. 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.480 You know, he kind of understands my mindset heading into 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.400 a game on Sunday. He knows I'm gonna be prepared, 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:19.320 and he knows that I take it personal. You know, 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.240 I don't. I don't show up and worry about Instagram 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.200 or likes or like that. Like I go out there 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:25.640 and I want to I want people to feel me. 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.960 You kind of touchdown pasted last week against Buffalo, it's 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:33.760 third down in seven, the Bills converge on Jamar Chase 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:37.200 and leave you open right at the goal line. Was 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.760 that one of those plays where you could sense the 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.040 likelihood of how well it was going to work. Yes, 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.480 I mean throughout the week we called it. We understood 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.000 like what they were probably gonna run defensively down there 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.120 in the red zone. Um, and then we kind of 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.039 had a little like a little fake check in there too. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:53.840 And as soon as you know, we fake checked it 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.880 out to Jamar, they started communicating and I kind of 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.560 looked at their communication, looked at Joe, and I was like, 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:01.920 there are going to miss this up. And sure enough, 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:05.039 they converged on Jamar, and you know, I pop wide 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:06.160 open and I saw the ball in the air and 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:07.680 I was just kind of waiting for it to come down. 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:09.039 So that's one of those that kind of hang up 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:12.360 there forever. Other than missing three games with a calf 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.680 injury this year has this first year with the Bengals 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.800 been everything you hoped it would be. Absolutely I told 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:20.520 you on the sideline after we had the game, kind 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.480 of clenched that this time last year, I was sitting 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.800 in my house in Florida with my family watching the 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.680 divisional game on TV, and it's just it's crazy how 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.000 life comes full circle. Now you gotta keep fighting, got 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.440 to be resilient, and you know, I've kind of fought 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.720 myself into this position an hour talking AFC Championships, So 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.920 it's kind of surreal. You faced the Chiefs on Sunday. 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.120 The tight end on the opposite side of the field 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.000 is obviously one of the best. Travis Kelsey put up 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.680 crazy numbers this year one hundred and ten catches, more 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:51.640 than thirteen hundred yards, twelve touchdowns. You probably won't get 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.800 as many targets as he does on Sunday, But do 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.160 you go into a game like that thinking I am 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.720 going to show that I am the best tight end 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.520 on the field that day. I don't try to worry 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:05.480 about numbers. It's a different offense, you know. Travis is 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.559 you know, their focal point. Now he's gonna get his targets, 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.760 He's gonna get his catches, obviously he should. He's the 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.960 best tight end in the NFL. Going into a game 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.880 like this, I really just want to put on display 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:17.440 what I'm all about. You know, I'm not worried about 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.400 other guys or what they're gonna do and things like that. 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:22.320 You know. Defensively, we'll have a plan to try to 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.360 stop him, but I'm focused on what I need to 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.080 do to help this team win. Whatever that is. They're 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.000 down catches, red zone catches. I'm just gonna go in there, 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.480 locking and do my job. It's going to be called 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.400 on Sunday. They're calling for a temperature in the mid twenties. 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.560 A wind chill in New England on Christmas Eve was 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:42.280 four degrees. You always warm up in the crop top, 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.240 mid section exposed. Will that be the case on Sunday? 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.480 And if so? Why? And we've won ten in a row. Man, 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.640 it can't stop now. Yeah, it's crop top season all 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.560 year round. I guess I gotta roll with it. You know, 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.120 I'm not that superstitious, but now that you mentioned it, 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.679 you better wear the crop top. It'll come out, absolutely, 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:02.720 it doesn't matter. Congratulations on an awesome season today, Best 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.240 of luck in the FC Championship. Game, Yes, I appreciate it. 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.480 I consider myself one of the least superstitious people in 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.360 the world. But during the game on Sunday, I will 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.240 be using the pen that I've been using throughout the 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.400 winning streak. The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.960 in part by all Ta Fiber, future proof fiber Internet 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:26.560 capable of delivering multi gigabit speeds designed to take your home, business, 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:30.520 and community to a new level. Elevate your connection with 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.800 all to Fiber. Back to the subject of cold weather 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:37.439 in Kansas City, the current forecast for Sunday night calls 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:41.080 for highs in the mid twenties, lows around ten degrees, 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:46.040 where the windshill is low as five below. That's cold, 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.760 so it's good to know that the Bengals have Joe 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.920 Burr at quarterback. Jay Morrison of The Athletic pointed out 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.480 last week that the Bengals are now seven to oz 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.679 with Burrow at QB when the temperature is thirty five 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.880 degree ease or colder. And consider the two games with 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.199 the worst weather that the Bengals have played in this 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:08.880 year in New England, the temperature with seventeen degrees and 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.240 the wind show was four burrow through for two hundred 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:16.360 and eighty four yards and three touchdowns in the first half. 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:20.959 Then last week, in that snowstorm in Buffalo, Joe started 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.120 the game nine for nine with two touchdowns and finished 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.400 with a passer rating of one oh one point nine. 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:32.760 Here's offensive coordinator Brian Callahan. I don't think anything has 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:38.160 any impact on him, truthfully. He's just he can compartmentalize 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:42.160 as good as anybody. Weather doesn't bother him. He's you know, 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.000 I'm sure he's proud to be from Athens, where it's 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:47.439 probably cold and miserable from like November on is you 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.160 get out in the winter months. But he's playing those 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:51.719 games the whole life. He's playing in that weather. It 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:55.000 doesn't bother him. You know. It takes a lot to 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.360 get his mind off of the task at hand, and 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:02.439 it's he's laser focused and whether Stoe rain cold, that 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.520 doesn't phase him in the least bit. I think he 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.080 actually rather enjoys it, to be honest. He's a little 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.360 bit of a mutter like that. He likes that. Of course, 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.840 A key reason why Joe excelled last week was the 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:17.160 stellar play of the Bengals injury ravage offensive line. It 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.679 appears that Jonah Williams and Alex Kappa might be able 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.200 to play in the Super Bowl if the Bengals make it, 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:27.440 but they haven't practiced this week, so it's likely that Jackson, 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.880 Carmen and Max Sharping will start again, along with Hakim 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:35.160 Identagy in place of l Collins. Here's Ted Carriss on 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:39.640 the Old Line, considering the stakes last week and the 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.439 injuries you guys had upfront? Was that one of your 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.600 proudest days as an Oldlignement? It was. It's always hard 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.480 to get a win in that stadium. My season had 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.720 ended two years in a row there in terrible fashion. 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.760 It's glad third time was a charm. I think everybody's 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.160 wondering about the status of your knee at this point, 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.520 ready to go practice. Well today, we're gonna go out 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.240 there and practicing tomorrow and go out and perform our 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.439 best on Sunday afternoon or evening. What did you think 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.440 of Jackson? I thought he played phenomenal. I think he 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.160 proved he can play tackle in this league in a 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.520 big moment and had a really good game. We're gonna 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.160 need another great performance Altuhim. He's got a big matchup 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.800 with Frank Clark, and that's gonna be another another test 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:23.520 for him. But I know he's up for the challenge. 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.800 He's gonna help us win the game. Chris Jones was 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.280 first team All Pro. You mentioned Frank Clark. How good 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.600 is their front? They have a very good front, well coached, 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:34.079 good coach over there, good culture, a lot of good players. 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.920 The young guy Karlotis is another standout. So we have 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:39.600 our work cut out for us. I think we started 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.760 well today and we're gonna need to do that these 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.439 next two days in order to play our best on Sunday. 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:49.160 Chris Jones is a giant. He's six six, three hundred 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.680 ten pounds and had fifteen and a half sacks this year. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:56.680 That's fourth most in the NFL and number one among 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:01.360 interior linemen. The Bengals Booth podcast You buy. Kettering Health 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.720 the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. With more than 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:08.719 one hundred twenty care facilities and fifteen hundred care providers, 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:12.920 Kettering Health is committed to guiding you to your best health. 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:17.280 Visit kettering health dot org to learn more. There are 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:20.040 a ton of people doing great video breakdowns of the 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:23.079 XS and o's on TV and social media, and one 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:26.520 of my favorites is Brian Baldinger from the NFL Network, 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.920 who does Baldy's breakdowns. I had a chance to discuss 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:34.440 the Bengals in Chiefs with him this week. Brian, you 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:38.240 are an NFL offensive lineman for eleven years. How would 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.520 you describe the performance of the Bengals offensive line last week? 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:46.520 Missing three starters? It was brilliant. It was brilliant performance 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.880 by Jackson at left tackle and Max at right guard, 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:53.079 and a team at right tackle. I mean, you wouldn't 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.880 know that they were the backups, and that's a credit 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:59.800 to Frank Pollock, the offensive line, the coaching, because it's 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.920 not easy in those conditions against a really good defense. 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:04.840 But I mean, it was one of the best offensive 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:08.320 performances they've had whole year, and you really can't find 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:11.120 a lot of bad plays or missed assignments or anything 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.920 from that those three right now, let me follow up 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.960 specifically on Jackson Carmen. He was a left tackle at Clemson. 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.600 He played guard last year as a rookie in the NFL. 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.560 He was back at left tackle last week. What did 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.960 you think of him specifically and how comfortable did he 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.720 look back at tackle. Well, you know, he got in there, 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.960 you know, obviously with the injury to you know, to 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.800 Jonah the week before. So he got in there against Baltimore, 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:35.440 and I thought he played well until the very end, 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.840 and then I thought it was just really a matter 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:42.000 of time working, you know with Wolson and just kind 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.600 of feeling his way in there. But I thought fundamentally 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.240 his sets were good. He's a big two hand puncher. 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.600 You don't see a lot of that anymore. But he 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.000 didn't get out over his skis against you know, a 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:55.240 variety of Russias against Buffalo. I thought he was excellent 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.040 in the run game. So, I mean the run game 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.480 really kind of took off and flourished obviously, uh you 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.880 know with what Joe did and what uh some aj did. 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.200 So I thought it was I thought it was really good. 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.440 I thought it was solid. You wouldn't know that this 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.040 is his first start in the NFL left tack and 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.000 I think I'm right, And so he looked really comfortable there, 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:16.960 like like, you know, part of the reason why they 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.360 took about at Clemson is they thought he could probably 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.320 play left tackle. Obviously, they had him make guard last year, 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:27.680 but look, he's gonna get he's gonna get challenged this 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.200 week in a way. Uh, you know from a variety 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.240 of rushers again that you know, are pretty good at 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.240 what they do in an atmosphere that's tough to play, 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.400 and so the bigger test is this week. But I 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.440 thought he answered all the questions. And you know, the 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.000 best thing is you never talked about him during the game. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.600 You know, That's that's like the that's like the greatest 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:47.960 thing you could say about an offensive line and especially 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.320 a kid making his first start, is you never said 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:54.160 anything about him the whole game. Brian. At one point 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:57.120 during the game last week, you tweeted, very simply, Joey 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:02.240 b doesn't miss when you're watch Joe Burrow. What makes 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:06.280 you shake your head and say, this kid's unbelievable? You 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:07.960 know when I said that, I don't know how many 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.240 complete in a row like for six or whatever it was, 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.720 you know, including a touchdown. But I think it's just 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.920 that you know everything in this world. I don't care 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.040 what you do. You throw a football, you know, you 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.200 learn how to spin a basketball in your finger, I 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:24.760 don't care what it is like. Everything is difficult before 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:28.280 it gets easy. And for Joe, he just makes it 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:32.040 look easy, like he's going through progressions, you know, about 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:33.960 as fast as you can go through a progression. Yet 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:38.680 the footwork, the delivery, the fundamentals are all there to 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:40.440 make sure the ball is thrown at the right spot. 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.960 And that's obviously not easy to do and very few 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.280 can do it. Yet here he is in his third 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.640 year and he's doing it like on a consistent basis. Oh, 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:53.360 by the way, it's snowing out, it's cold, it's a 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:57.080 slick field, it's in hostile territory, and you wouldn't know. 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.840 I mean, he could be in his backyard and Athens, Ohio, 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.360 you know, throwing to his dad or something. It wouldn't 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.800 be any different. Probably for visiting the Brian Baldinger from 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.480 the NFL Network. He did a Baaltis breakdown this week 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.639 on Mike Hilton. The dude is five nine, one hundred 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.800 eighty four pounds. You referred to him as a pit bull. 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:19.440 What makes Mike Hilton so special? I think the fact 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:23.280 that a he does everything full speed. You know, the 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:25.879 blitzers are full speed. Defeating blocks at the line of 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.639 scrimmage is full speed. Bracketing in double coverage you know 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:33.320 on Stefon Diggs, Like it's just it's just like he 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.840 plays the game very fast, and you wouldn't know that 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.240 he's five nine, you know, in one hundred and ninety 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.359 pounds and change. You wouldn't know it, you know, by 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:42.960 the way he plays, because you shouldn't be able to 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.960 play the game that fast, hit, that hard attack, Josh 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:49.200 Allen's throwing arm, like the way he does as fast 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.480 as he does unless you are completely one percent confident 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:56.040 in what you're doing. And so I think a he's 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:00.520 very well prepared assignment wise, like like you know, it's 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:04.520 really special, but it's it's just a full speed, full 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:09.040 attack approach that he has play and play out. So 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:10.920 on Sunday, the Bengals are going to try to beat 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.840 Kansas City for the fourth time in about thirteen months. 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.960 Lou Anna Romo has done an incredible job of containing 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.280 Patrick Mahomes in the Kansas City Chiefs offense. What do 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.600 you think of lou I think of him in the 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:27.600 highest regard, Like he's as a tactician, Like I think 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:29.119 he's as good as there is in the whole business. 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.479 The things that like the things he did last year 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:36.240 in the championship gain. You know, at halftime down twenty 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:40.480 one three were remarkable, but you can see, like, but 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:43.200 if you wait till halftime to make adjustments, sometimes sometimes 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.080 it's too late, right, so you see it. But just 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:49.240 the game planning, like his ability to say, Okay, this 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:50.800 is the guy that can beat us, you know, whether 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:54.480 it's Stefon Diggs last week or whether it's Travis Kelsey 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:56.359 and some of these games, like he's going to do 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.119 his best to take your number one option away in 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:02.280 the passing game. And that's you know, not everybody can 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:06.480 do that because you know Stefan days, Travis Kelsey, they're 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.800 all over the place. Dan, you know, they're not in 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.240 one place where it's kind of easy to say, Okay, 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.480 this is how we're gonna double, Like you've got to 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.800 have a variety of ways to double depending where he's at. 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.679 And and then you know, it really helps to have 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:24.679 DJ read or help healthy in this defense, like everybody 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:27.239 needs that big guy in the middle. You know, it 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:30.680 helps that BJ's playing really well and Tupo's playing well 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.320 and Osia is healthy, Like all those things are good. 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:37.480 But I think saying okay, this is the number one option, 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.400 they have whether it's third down or red zone or 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.000 this is the big play guy, and to have a 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:45.919 plan to take him away. And that's that's something I 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:50.159 think that Lou specializes in. So the big storyline this 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.439 week is obviously the status of Patrick mahomes right ankle, 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:57.960 assuming that he is less mobile than usual. What will 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.640 Andy read in the Chiefs try to do well? I think, 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:03.040 you know, if you're building a game plan against you know, 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.680 with a hobble patch Mahomes, because none of us believe 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:10.119 he's gonna be anywhere near one hundred percent, so you know, 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:13.680 the first thing is, you know, make sure he's protected. 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.520 You know, like Jeff McKinnon is a great personal protector. 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:18.880 Mike Kilton comes on a blitz like we saw last week. 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:23.880 I think Jeff McKinnon is capable of notifying that. Now 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:26.240 it helps that you know, you don't always know where 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:29.200 it's coming from, but Jeff mckinns is a great personal protector. 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:32.520 Then they have run the ball. Asaiah Pacheco had his 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.280 one of his best games ever last week. Like he's 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:38.399 he's a good number one running back and they're good upfront. 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:41.320 So run the ball more, find ways to run it. 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:44.399 You know whether it's Cardarius Tony on fly sweeps and 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:47.160