1 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Yes, Welcome everybody to the Season with Peter Schreger. It's 2 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: a new podcast. I'll be hosting this every week, and 3 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you I'm fired up. I'm so fired 4 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: up because I've been a guest on a million podcasts. 5 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: I've hosted a podcast called Flying Coach with Sean McVeigh 6 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: that was awesome to do, and I've been waiting for 7 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: the right moment and also waiting for the right vehicle 8 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: to do my own podcast. And now that we're a 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: couple of weeks into this season, I'm like, let's just 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: chronicle the season, get through each week with insights, empty 11 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: the bag, have great guests and have some fun and 12 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: make you smarter as a listener, but also have open 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: dialogue about the season in real time, so that when 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: you're listening, you're like, you could follow this thing like 15 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: it's a storybook, and each chapter would be signified or 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: separated by the week at it is. If you don't know, 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: I'm Peter Schrager. I host Good Morning Football on NFL 18 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: Network on Sundays. You can see me on Fox Sports. 19 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: I used to be a sideline reporter. Now I'm a 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: studio guy doing the reporter insider role. Been around the 21 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: game for about twenty years as a sports writer, worked 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,639 Speaker 1: on inside the NFL. I've written a couple of books, 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: and I truly love this game. I truly love this league, 24 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: and I am a complete sponge for content and information. 25 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: My strength is my context. I talked to everyone around 26 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: the league. I've got great relationships. I like to keep 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: those relationships. But that's with players, it's with coaches, it's 28 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: with gms, it's with the owners, it's with agents, it's 29 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: with other media folks. And most of all, I come 30 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: at it like a fan who has got the lottery 31 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: ticket that I can do this for a living, and 32 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: I never lose sight of that on a daily basis, 33 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: that this is my job and how lucky I am 34 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: to do it, and unfortunate that we're partnering with the NFL, 35 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: but also with iHeart Radio, who just the first couple 36 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: of weeks working with these guys have been amazing partners 37 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: and I've met some new friends. One of them is 38 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Wong Kaufman. Aaron is going to be our producer, 39 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: our co host, is going to take us through this 40 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: season with us. Aaron, Welcome to the podcast. Thanks Peter, man, 41 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm stoked to be here with you. Aaron your story. 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: You work at iHeart. You're a sound and audio guy, 43 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: but you're also an NFL diehard fan. Yeah. Grew up 44 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: in a family of Bills fans, my dad's side of 45 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: the family. They are all from Buffalo. My uncle still 46 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: has season tickets, okay, And you know, didn't grow up 47 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: with necessarily the greatest era of Bills seasons during my childhood. 48 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: But they got such an exciting team right now. It 49 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: was so great watching them develop over the last few 50 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: years and stoked to see where they go now. But yeah, 51 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: I've been with iHeart for like three years now. Got 52 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: to work with the NFL last year on the show 53 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: Split Ends with Colleen Wolf and Erica Tampozy, and I 54 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: am so excited were working with you this season, and 55 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: I can't wait. And you're cool, Like I could tell 56 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: you live in Brooklyn. You're a bed style guy, and 57 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: you've got a style, You've got a flavor to you, 58 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: and I love your energy and I think we're like, 59 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: how should we start this podcast? I kind of like 60 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: going week to week and keeping it up today and 61 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: I feel like we're recording this on a Tuesday let's 62 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: do something we call four downs. You're gonna serve me 63 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: up with a down, and I'm just gonna empty the 64 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: bag on my thoughts and we'll set the stage for 65 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: not only what we just consumed in week five, but 66 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: what we expect in week six. What do we got there? All? Right? 67 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: Big game last night for Monday Night Football, the Kansas 68 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: City Chiefs in Las Vegas Raiders. The Chiefs are losing 69 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: at halftime, We've got the call. Kelsey comes back, scores 70 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: four touchdowns. What are your major reactions and takeaways from 71 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: last night's game? My major reactions is that arrowhead crowd 72 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: is no joke. And I know that sounds like I'm 73 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: playing to the Chiefs fan base. I'm not. Like they're 74 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: down in that game. And you get that crazy roughing 75 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: the passer penalty on Chris Jones and in a typical 76 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: situation like oh that sucks for the Chiefs, Like that 77 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: sucks now they're back against it the wall and all 78 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: the instead, the crowd reacts with such a vitriol booing, 79 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: not just at the call but for the next ten 80 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: minutes that like there was a fervor in that building 81 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: where you felt almost the momentum change based on a 82 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: bad call. So what happens, Well, they find a way 83 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: to get the ball back, they get their touchdown, and 84 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: then right before the first half ends, they're down twenty 85 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: to seven, and matthew Wright, a rookie kicker who missed 86 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: a forty one yard or earlier, nails a fifty nine 87 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: yarder and like the ESPN cameras shoot to the sidelines 88 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: and Andy Reid's fist pumping, and Patrick Mahomes has this 89 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: look of like, don't sweat it, I got you. Don't 90 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: sweat it, I got you, Like don't worry is where 91 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: we live. And the stat I got earlier this week, 92 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: like they're eleven and five under Mahomes in games that 93 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: they've trailed by ten points or more. That's insane. Eleven 94 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: and five, And that crowd led to this like incredible 95 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: atmosphere where you knew that the ball was going to 96 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: start rolling come the second half, and they eventually got 97 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: the lead. And then you see what happens. The officiating 98 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: tides turn a little bit and you get some calls 99 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: like a defensive holding on a missfield boat from right 100 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: that I haven't seen that call since twenty fifteen. And 101 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the refs were influenced by it, but 102 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: that whole atmosphere changed. And my takeaway from this game. 103 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: We could talk my homes, we could talk MVS, we 104 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: could talk about what they did to adjust at halftime, 105 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: but my takeaway is here come the Bills Week six. 106 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: What I think it's the marquee game of the season, 107 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: and that crowd is already in a lather from Monday night. 108 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: This was not a trap game, this was not a 109 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: gotcha game. It was the Raiders. So don't think that 110 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: the Chiefs were lulled into this thing. But I can't 111 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: wait for the atmosphere Sunday. Week six Bills versus Chiefs, 112 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: both teams four and one, both quarterbacks at the peak 113 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: of their powers, both teams having over come a seventeen 114 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: point deficit to win a game in the past few weeks. 115 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: To Bills did it against the Ravens. And I think 116 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: we're lucky, we're fortunate that we're getting this so soon 117 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: in the season and everyone's pretty much healthy for it. 118 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: Week six Bills Chiefs arrowhead, sign me up. That's my 119 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: first down at my reaction that holy the Chiefs and 120 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: that fan base they are tough to beat, even when 121 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: they're down by double digits. Okay, second down, What is 122 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: happening with the Rams offense. I've gotten a lot of 123 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: texts about it. Everyone knows my relationship with Sean McVeigh. 124 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: I've known Sean for a decade. Where good friends. And 125 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you he's saying everything's fine, But 126 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: I could also tell you it needs to be fixed now, 127 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: and like this is the moment in time because Stafford 128 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: does not look like Staffords. It's actually incredible how inept 129 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: this offense has been. They've scored just one touchdown in 130 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: the last nine quarters. Stafford has been sacked twenty one 131 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: times this season through five games. Last season, he sacked 132 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: thirty times the entire seventeen game regular season. But I'm 133 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: gonna take a positive spin on it. You know, one 134 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: of those games was against the forty nine ers and 135 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa's breathing down their back. One of those games 136 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: against Michael Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence, and you go week 137 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: one that Bill's team was shot out of a cannon. 138 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: Those are their three losses. They get the Carolina Panthers, 139 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: who come limping in this week and I think my 140 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: whole take is like, where the hell is Allen Robinson? 141 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: And I know that's a fantasy football conversation and I 142 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: usually say, like, here's what you're not getting anywhere else, 143 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: but it's a real conversation because with Van Jefferson injured, 144 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: with Odell Beckham not on this roster, and by the way, 145 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: if I'm Odell, I don't know if I'm signing with 146 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: the Rams anytime soon. If you're looking at this offense 147 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: either with von Miller not coming back anymore, which was 148 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: such an emotional lift last year, like they need Allen Robinson, 149 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: Like you need Allen Robinson. This guy has to step up. 150 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: You can't be relying on Ben Skolnik to be the 151 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: fullback and also the wide receiver too. You can't rely 152 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: on two two at Well, who I think is five 153 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: foot eight and you know, is a fast player, but 154 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: is not an every down guy. Alan Robinson was signed 155 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: for big money. He's getting zero separation. He's a great dude. 156 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: So like you're talking about a guy who wants it. 157 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: He's not a guy who loafs it. He's not a 158 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: guy who doesn't. Is this one of the great misfirings 159 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: of free agent history right now, because five weeks in, 160 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: Alan Robinson has done nothing. And you know you blame 161 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: the run game, the offensive line if you don't have 162 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: that number two guy to Cooper Cup. The fear is 163 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: that you ride Cooper Cups so much that the wheels 164 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: come off. And come week seven, week eight, not only 165 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: is Cup injured, knock on Wood, Cup is spend like 166 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: you can't do this at this pace and you're seeing 167 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: defense is already key in on Cooper Cup. So to 168 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: meet Alan Robinson is everything. There's an NFL player who 169 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: gets the benefit of the doubt because he was playing 170 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: with Blake Boardles and with Mitch Drubisky. And it's always 171 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: been like, yo, a rob if he's got a quarterback, 172 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: just watch out. He is that guy. The Rams are 173 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: paying him as that guy. And in August, all I 174 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: heard from the Rams folks was Robinson is not only 175 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: stepping up, but like he's the perfect number two for 176 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: Cup for what he can do. And I'm watching these 177 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: games and he's not getting separation. So Aaron to you, 178 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: my producer and my friend, like I will tell you this, 179 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: you could pick pick apart cam Akers, you could pick 180 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: apart the offensive line you could say Stafford doesn't look right. 181 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: You could say McVeigh has lost his touch. I look 182 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: at the number two wide receiver and the big free 183 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: agent signing that I know they had so much expectations 184 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: for going into this thing. I think Alan Robinson and 185 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: if that requires Liam Cohen the offensive coordinator and Sean 186 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: mcvade to scrap their principles to try to just get 187 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: him going, whether that means wide receiver screens or getting 188 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: involved in the handoffs, like you have to make this work. 189 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: Alan Robinson needs to be that guy and it needs 190 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: to happen soon for this offense to click. Okay, third down, 191 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: we're going with a positive spin. Now, did anyone see 192 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: this Giant's thing coming? I mean, like, is this as 193 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: much of a surprise to you as it is to me. 194 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: It's a shock. It's a shock. I thought the Joe 195 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: Shane Higher was great as GM and then you know 196 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: Joe with the Mara fam that starts interviewing the candidates, 197 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: and it's like, all right, Brian Flores might be the guy. 198 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: Who else are we meeting with? Okay, let's let's think 199 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: about you know, is Brian Dabele the guys he's got 200 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: a relationship with Shane and then he gets here and 201 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, Daniel Jones has to be a 202 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: lame duck. Quarterbacks Quon Barkley hasn't been healthy since twenty eighteen. 203 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: He's probably a lame duck contract. And then you go 204 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: around this wide receiver room, it's like, all right, Sterling 205 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: Shepherd and Kenny Galladay are all making money like that. 206 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: And then you see the team play and it's like, 207 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, they're so well coached. And I think 208 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: that's the X factor here. Daniel Jones is not going 209 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: to light it up through the sky. So instead of 210 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: Brian Dable treating him like he's Josh Allen, he's like, 211 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: let's draw up an offense to maximize his strength. That 212 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: defense does not have many star players on it. Wink 213 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: Martindale comes in as a defensive coordinator and he's like, 214 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: all right, let's maximize what we've got. Let's use my 215 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: philosophies of sending the dogs, but let's be true to 216 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: what we are and be disciplined. And then Mike Kafka, 217 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, has been fantastic as well. I think 218 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: the most important higher of this entire offseason. I'm talking 219 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: about free agencies. I'm talking about trades. Was Brian Dable 220 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: as the head coach of the New York Giants. The 221 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: culture has changed and he has immediately put players in 222 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: position to succeed, and more importantly, Aaron. They believe like 223 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: they could succeed. You're watching them. This team's believing. They're 224 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: rallying around it like they were down fourteen points to 225 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers and Aaron Rodgers and they come 226 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: out of a halftime and they don't quit. That is 227 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: such such a breath of fresh air for the New 228 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: York Giants. And you know, the Giants have this history 229 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: of coaching and it's like Parcels, like you knew what 230 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: you were getting. Parcels. Teams were tough, they were strong, 231 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: they were defensive minded, and they were not going to 232 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: beat themselves. Coughlin disciplined on time, type of team that 233 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: was going to be led by that defensive front. And 234 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: then Eli was gonna do what Eli does best, and 235 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: that's winning the clutch. This team, I didn't know what 236 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones did well and that's why I was so surprised. 237 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: You know, before the season, good Morning Football, we make 238 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: our playoff picks, and I was dismissive, and one Giant 239 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: and Span tweets at me all the time and it's like, bro, 240 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, retract this comment. And it was me saying, well, 241 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: the Giants aren't a playoff team, like it's gonna be 242 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: Eagles or Cowboys. I don't see the Giants as a 243 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: playoff team. And it was very dismissive, and it was almost, 244 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, to the point where like if you were 245 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: a player, you'd be insulted by that. But gosh, are 246 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: they well coached? And do those players step up top 247 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: to bottom? That fifty three You're talking about guys like 248 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: David Sills is doing toe tap stuff on the sidelines 249 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: at wide receiver looking awesome. You're talking about defensive players 250 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: that have been on this team that are stepping up 251 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: to the next level. Seeing Dexter Lawrence look like a 252 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: first round pick last week was really cool. And then 253 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: just just all the young guns coming up and playing 254 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: tough and playing big put its start to the top. 255 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 1: Dabo gets a lot of credit and Dabole gets a 256 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: lot of love for the dancing in the locker room 257 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, But gosh, are they a disciplined 258 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: team that likes playing for their head coach, and you 259 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: feel the cultures. So I did not see it coming. 260 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: I will give a maya kulpa there, but I don't 261 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: think they're going away. And I think they might be 262 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: one of those sneaky wildcard teams or maybe even a 263 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: division winner. And that's because the coach has them believe 264 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: in her. Okay, fourth down, give me your shout out 265 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: of the week. Who impressed you the most? Yeah, shout 266 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: out is to the forty nine ers. This is a 267 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: team that continues to just get stung by the injury 268 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: bug but continues to kick butt. A lot of excuses 269 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: could be made, but the Niners lost. You know, their 270 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: star pass rusher and Nick Bosa in this game, Emmanuel 271 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: Moseley in this game. They're already out without Eric Armstead 272 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: and Trent Williams. Jimmy Ward breaks his hand in this game, 273 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: and they just go on and roll and win thirty 274 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: seven to fifteen. You know, I got a crazy fact 275 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: from a source at the Niners. They went from Carolina 276 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: to stay in this week at the Greenbrier in West Virginia, 277 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: which is a lovely resort where they they've spent the 278 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: last three years on these East Coast trips before they 279 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 1: go and play Atlanta. This is the third street year 280 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: they've lost a player to a massive ACL injury going 281 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: to the Greenbrier. Last year it was Jason Verrette. They 282 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: had another one before that with Bosa. Like this isn't 283 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: how it's supposed to go. Like you're not supposed to 284 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: have massive ACL injuries year after year, and you're not 285 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: supposed to lose your starting quarterback Trey Lance, you know, 286 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: so early in the season, and yet you lose Elijah Mitchell, 287 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: you lose Trent Williams. These are these are starters. They 288 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: are down nine starters, and what do they do. They 289 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: just like flip the page and they say, let's keep rolling. 290 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: I think the Niners still deserve a lot of love 291 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: here because a lot of teams get key injuries and 292 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: they go into a corner and into a hole and 293 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: they don't continue to bring it. But whatever reason, this 294 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: Niners team has been stung with the injury bug year 295 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: after year after year, and they don't fade. Other guys 296 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: step up, like it was there any doubt that Jeff 297 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: Wilson when Elijah Mitchell came up came out, was going 298 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: to step up. Noways stepped up, Like is there any 299 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: doubt that these offensive tackles who we don't know their names. 300 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: When Trent Williams goes down, step up. They step up. 301 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: Even Jimmy G steps up. Like the Niners. To me, 302 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: they just ever shout out. As we head to week six. 303 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: They'rer at the Greenbrier right now, coming off yet another 304 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: ACL injury, and this one Emmanuel Mosley, and it doesn't 305 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: phase them. They just keep rolling. To me, that's that's coaching, 306 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: and that's culture, and that's what the Niners have. Now. 307 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: I ask you, Aaron, who do you want to shout out? 308 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: All right, let's go from Jimmy G to his old team. 309 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: I want to shout out the Pats defense. I thought 310 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: they looked incredible. They shut out the Lions. Rookie Jack 311 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: Jones had the interception in the end zone, Matt Judon 312 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: had two sacks in the second half. The Lions went 313 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: for it on fourth down on their first four drives, 314 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: never connected. The Pats just they looked so good again 315 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: on defense? You remember, yeah, I remember us, like right, 316 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: like that's what it used to be under Belichick, doesn't 317 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: it seem like Belichick's having more fun this year, as 318 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: much as this team might not have the talent, and 319 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: very like he seems like he likes these guys. Do 320 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: you get that feeling? Yeah, and especially after like all 321 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: the hubbub this preseason and offseason about all the who's 322 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: calling plays, who's not calling plays? Even the offense now 323 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: is doing well. Damien Harris got hurt, Romonder Stevens and 324 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: step up right in just ran through the Lions defense. 325 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean they looked incredible. Yeah, okay, those are two shoutouts. 326 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: There's are four downs. Is what we do, and then 327 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: we do a guest every week. The plan is we're 328 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: gonna bring in coaches, GM, celebrity fans that you might 329 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: know from other work, that just our diehard sports fans. 330 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: And for the first guest, I wanted to bring in 331 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: a friend of mine and a guy who's having a 332 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: little moment right now. It's the head coach of the 333 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: New York Jets. It's Robert Sala. Sala I've known since 334 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: his Jacksonville days. We went from Jaguars to Seahawks, to 335 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: Niners defensive coordinator to finally the Jets. You know, starts 336 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: off his career at four and fourteen. But now they've 337 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: they've got a little thing going here. There're three and 338 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: two for the first time since twenty seventeen. And Sala's 339 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: a good dude. I want to everyone to get to 340 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: know him beyond the history on its on the sideline, 341 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: beyond the coaching stuff. There's a good person. Robert Salo's 342 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: our first guest, now joined by the three and two 343 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: New York Jets head coach and a local hero right 344 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: now in New York. And he's the man, Robert Salo. 345 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the season with Peter Schreger. What's that man? 346 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: How you doing? Man? I appreciate you're having me out, 347 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: of course, take us through the last two days. You guys, 348 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: get this amazing win over the Dolphins. The Jets are 349 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: over it to five hundred for the first time since 350 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and this city is alive. I'm in New 351 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: York City, you're in Jersey. Are you feeling that? Are 352 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: you feeling the juice from the fans and also from 353 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: just the media market in general? Now you know what, 354 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: we got a young team. I think positive affirmations are 355 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 1: always critical, especially when you're a young roster and you're 356 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: trying to build confidence and you're trying to get that 357 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: the ball rolling if you will, you know. But so 358 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: I would imagine for those young men to get positive affirmations, 359 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: to see on tape that they're capable and what they're 360 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: capable of and what we as a team are capable of. 361 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: I think all of it's good. But at the same time, 362 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: you've got to be able to compartmentalize all that noise 363 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: and keep the main thing, the main thing, which is preparation. 364 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: And that's why we've had the success we've had is 365 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: because of preparation, and if we lacked preparation, that success 366 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: will continue. Bruce Hall puts up one hundred and ninety 367 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: seven yards from scrimmage, and you and I were talking 368 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: this summer, like I compared him to Matt Forte. I 369 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: was like, he catches the ball, he runs the ball. 370 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: It's it's on display right now. When when you draft 371 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: a running back in the second round, there's such high expectations. 372 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,479 Speaker 1: When you see him out there, what's your impression just 373 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: five weeks into his NFL career, Um, so you've been 374 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: getting better every week. Him and Michael Carter make a 375 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: really really cool duo. It's a really good one too, 376 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: punch and there's gonna be a week where Michael goes off, 377 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: you know. So there's it's it's a really good compliment 378 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: for Breeze, you know, just a week to week improvement 379 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: with regards to running style and understanding the difference between 380 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: the NFL and college where there's things that he could 381 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: get away with in college because he's just so much 382 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: better than everybody. But now in the NFL, where you've 383 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: got to you've just got to change your running style 384 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. And I I feel like he's done that 385 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: as much in the last two weeks. And uh, and 386 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: it's paying off of them. Yeah. I go back after 387 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: Week one, you guys lose to the Ravens, and you 388 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: had the line that that got picked up everywhere and 389 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: you said, hey, you know, I'm taking receipts. All of 390 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: you who mocked us taking receipts. Now it's too early 391 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,239 Speaker 1: to cash in those receipts. It's it's week five. But 392 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: when you said that, I almost watched him afar and 393 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, did he mean to say that? Did he 394 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: did he know where he was going with that? Because 395 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: the media ate it up, but it seems like the 396 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: players have responded, like, now that we're a month removed 397 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: from the I'm taking receipts, what is your reaction when 398 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: you look at how things have changed and now here 399 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: we are three and two. But also players are believing 400 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: in each other, you know. I UM, for me, it's 401 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: the the constant improvement from the team, right, It's that's 402 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: always the main focus. And UM didn't think the receipts 403 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: comment would do what it did. I was really hoping 404 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: that it would go away by now. But because it's 405 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: it's just it's so far away. You know, we've got 406 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: to accomplish so much. Just three wins, We've got to 407 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: there's so many things that we want to accomplish as 408 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: an organization. UM. So it's probably, in hindsight, very silly 409 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: to me. But at the same time, I don't think 410 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: our players are externally motivated by m by words and 411 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: and and board the billboards or whatever you cut the 412 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: little I think when Joe and I got together two 413 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: years ago that the charge was to bring in guys 414 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: who love this game, and we'll do everything they can 415 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: to protect it. And I feel like we've done a 416 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: really good job bringing in men who love this game, 417 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: and I think what people are seeing is just unwavering 418 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: desire to get better every day. And this group, I 419 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: think we got a locker room that loves the game 420 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: so much that they're going to find ways to make 421 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: sure they protect it so they can continue to get better, 422 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: you know. Um. And so it is going to be 423 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: a challenge because we're still young and we're going to 424 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: be humbled. But at the same time, I just got 425 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: a lot of faith in the locker room. That's kind 426 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: of where the genesis of everything is that I've got 427 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: faith in what I know it's going to be possible, 428 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: and it's just a matter of continuing to stack up 429 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: great days and show people stack up great days. And 430 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: Sunday was one. And there's a moment in that game 431 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: game where Quinn Williams takes that ball stiff arms Tyreek 432 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: Hill after a week of us hearing about state income 433 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: taxes and how he never really was that interested in 434 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: being in the jet and all this stuff. It felt 435 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: like there was this great Catharsis from the sideline of 436 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: seeing quinnin tossed Tyreek Hill aside and be like, no, dude, 437 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: like we're here. Um. That moment felt like a moment. 438 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: Am I making too much of it that that that 439 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: play right there with Quinn and Williams, of all people 440 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: who has been a top five pick, who has been 441 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: just chopping wood, having that on the home field in 442 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: front of the home fans might making too much of it? 443 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: Or was that like a cool turning point for this 444 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: Jets team. I don't know about turning point and shrikes, 445 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: but I do think it was an awesome play. Um 446 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: deserves all the attention it gets. Not not because of 447 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: rules against and all that. I'm just anytime you get 448 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: a fact guy with the ball running people, so not 449 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: that Quinn's pat, but a big man, big man, big man, 450 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: the little coffee being. It was like, you know, but anytime. 451 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm defensive guy. The greatest, the greatest 452 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 1: playing football is SA sack, fumble, scoop and score. If 453 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 1: you can't, I that's that's like the triple crown. But 454 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: uh and um, you know, to get a big man 455 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: running and running people over in the stadium, erupting and 456 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: you're basically a few yards five yards away from putting 457 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: a team away. In that situation, it was just a 458 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: really cool pivotal moment in the game. Um, that just 459 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: erupted the entire stadium, not let alone the sideline. You know, 460 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: my boy Kyle Brand gave him the Angry Runs scepter 461 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: for the angriest run of the week. That's very rare. 462 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: Defensive player gets it that people. Of course, he deserves it, 463 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, but uh, he's uh, he's quinnin is Um. 464 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: He's having a heck of a year and he's only 465 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: going to get better. But I love where he's at 466 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: mentally and his mindset and the way he approaches season. 467 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: You know, last year he didn't really get a chance 468 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: to have ots and training camp, dealing with that foot 469 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: injury that he suffered during the off season. And he's 470 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: fully healthy, the best shape of his life, like we 471 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: talked about, you know, really expecting him to continue sending. 472 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: It's a fun team. It's a fun moment in time. 473 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: And now we turn the page because now we go 474 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: to Lambeau and I don't know if I'm breaking news here. 475 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: I've heard from good, good info that like Fox might 476 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: send the number one crew there, This might be Burkhardt Olsen, 477 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: Aaron Andrews. Like this is being treated like a premier game, 478 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: America's Game of the week Jets at Packers, and it 479 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: also has this extra wrinkle that the listeners might not know. 480 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: But not only is Matt Lafloor your offensive coordinator, Michael 481 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: Floor's older brother, He's one of your best friends in 482 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: the world. Can you take us through the relationship between 483 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: you and Matt Lafloor and where it started and where 484 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: it's at. Yeah, So we actually played against it. I 485 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: was a tight end, he was a quarterback. But our 486 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: schools played against each other in college. Didn't know each 487 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: other then. But I get to Central Michigan and if 488 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: you can see it, like this little little square right here, 489 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: I saw it was like a broom closet. He and 490 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: I shared the same offense, and it was about the 491 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: size of a broom closet. I mean, that's coaches. That's 492 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: coaches at Central Michigan. And who's the head coach of 493 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: that team? Is that Brian Kenny Rank Kelly, Yeah, Bran 494 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: Uh and he and I just I mean it was 495 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: like just instantaneous, um, just just the the vibe, and 496 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 1: we became we got roommates, were roommates, got uh got 497 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: an apartment in the projects of Mount Pleasant Uh and 498 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: we've been we've been tight ever since, you know, sharing ideas, philosophy, 499 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: always talking and uh, you know, he's he's such a 500 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: good man and he's he's won a lot of games 501 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: and he's had a lot of success in this league 502 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: and even when he was a coordinated and an assistant, uh, 503 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: an assistant coach, like, he's done nothing but win. And 504 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: so you just know that he's going to have his 505 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: team ready to roll. They're gonna be pissed off and 506 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: uh and they're gonna be home and so you just 507 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 1: know you're gonna get everything that they are and it's 508 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: gonna be a tremendous challenge. I gotta take me back 509 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: to Central Michigan, Mount Pleasant, Michigan. Who who's the cleaner 510 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: of the two roommates, Who's the one who's cooking at night? Like? 511 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: What what's the situation? I can't imagine you and Matt Lafloor, 512 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: two NFL head coaches, now sitting there as twenty two 513 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: year old kids in a box for an apartment in Mountain. 514 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: We had no we had no furniture except for a 515 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: couple of mattresses and bedroom sets. Um. There was it was, 516 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: it was, there was. We had a table So the 517 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: story is we found this awesome table and chairs at 518 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: the Salvation Army good Will. We buy the table and 519 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: we're like, shoot, we can't fit it all in the car. 520 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: So we take the table and like, okay, let's go 521 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: back and get the chairs. And we go back to 522 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: get the chairs. They're gone, gone, They're gone. And they 523 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: were like, why don't we buy these before we And 524 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: so we had a we had a we had a table, 525 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: no chairs in the kitchen, and so we just sit 526 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: there and eat the stand were standing just um eat 527 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: on the fly, uh, late nights together, Wingman and all 528 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 1: that stuff, all that good stuff. And so it was 529 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot of dark, deep secrets 530 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: that we know about each other. So we have and 531 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: his little brother is you're one of your first hires 532 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: when you come to the Jets. Your relationship with Mike, 533 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,239 Speaker 1: I imagine Sims through Matt. Yeah. So, well, you know, 534 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: Matt's from up Pleasant. So we were always at his parents' 535 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: house raiding the fridge and there was a little Mike 536 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: and his you know, high school sweetheart who's now his wife. 537 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: But you know, Mike, Mike, Mike's not here because of 538 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: that relationship Mike's here because of how much I respect 539 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: him as a football coach and fan. It's very important. 540 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: Does the relationship help, Yeah, because there's a level of 541 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: trust and a level of communication that I can have 542 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: to be able to establish the identity and what we're 543 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: trying to get done offensively. But Mike is extremely talented 544 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: and uh and he's got the hardest job of anyone 545 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: of anyone I would argue in the league just thinking 546 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: about what he has as a coordinator with all these 547 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: babies on offense that he's trying to develop and mold, 548 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: and so yeah, the relationship kind of is obviously through Matt, 549 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: but but just watching him grow as a football coach 550 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: and who's who his influences are, it's been it's been 551 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: impressive to watch him and evolve. This podcast, we're geting 552 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: to know coaches, GMS, celebrity fans a little bit better. 553 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: But we're also spending it forward to next week. So 554 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: when you were at San Francisco, you guys had a 555 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: lot of success against Aaron Rodgers. I'm not putting that 556 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: expectation on you, but when you watch the tape and 557 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: you see Rogers, does this motivate you as a defensive 558 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: coach to be like, all right, national TV, everyone's watching, 559 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: We're the hot team. They're coming off a loss, Like, 560 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: let's go do something here. Um, you know what it's Uh, 561 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: the last time I was I went against Aarons Thursday 562 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: night football at the COVID game and they beat the 563 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: They beat the Yeah, it didn't go well. Yeah, but 564 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: now Aaron he's a Hall of Fame quarterback. Um. Lambo 565 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: Field is iconic. The Packer organization and the amount of 566 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: success they've had, especially since Matt's been there, has been 567 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: unprecedented to a degree, and so it's there's a lot 568 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: of excitement. But at the same time, it's every game 569 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: is a championship game, period. Doesn't matter who you're playing, 570 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: William and Mary, Great Bay Packers, you approach it all 571 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: the same and uh, you know, so just keeping again, 572 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: just keeping the main thing, the main thing, and doing 573 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: your best, uh every when the moment comes, and you know, 574 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 1: all those little cliche things that we talked about day 575 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: in and day out. But I mean, it's it's gonna 576 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: be fun, you know, because of how how cool the 577 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,239 Speaker 1: atmosphere is over there and just being Lambo. But uh, 578 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: but at the same time, you can't. You can't separate 579 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: the two you. You You attack it the way you 580 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: would any other game, and you trust that your best 581 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: is good enough. So you and I have spoken about 582 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: your entry into the NFL quite a bit, and I 583 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: think the listeners would appreciate this. So you get out 584 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: of college, you're working at a finance job. About what 585 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: three months in you start in that wall of what 586 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,239 Speaker 1: am I doing with my life? Can you take us 587 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: through your decision to give up what might have been 588 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: a very lucrative career in finance to chasing the dream 589 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: of being an NFL coach. Yeah, I'm until I got 590 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: this job, I was I was gonna make a heck 591 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: of a lot more money and banking than I do 592 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: in football. But just one of those deals, you know, 593 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: like try to explain the best I can. When you 594 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: do what you love, I love you back. That's that's 595 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: kind of the old saying, right or us saying so, 596 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: just questioning at a very young age and having the 597 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: support I had from my family and the resources that 598 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: I had to be able to attack coaching because not 599 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people can get into coaching because of 600 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, I was making six hundred bucks a 601 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: month for the first three years of my coaching career. 602 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: And so you're making pennies, You're it's tremendous sacrifice. But 603 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: there's so many people who helped me along the way. 604 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: But um, you know, you're sitting there in the banking 605 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: world and it's like, Okay, I can chase money or 606 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: I can chase what I love. And it's such a 607 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: such a I'm just fortunate because it doesn't always work 608 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: out this way, but when you do what you love, 609 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: it'll love you back. Everything kind of took care of yourself. 610 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: The money followed, the family, the kids, all of it. 611 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: Like it's I'm very blessed and and and so you 612 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: just it's just fortunate. Obviously, I'm fortunate, got lucky along 613 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: the way. I had a lot of great players to coach. 614 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: But I was just making that I was at the 615 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: crossroads of life and hey, do I want money or 616 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: I want to do what I love? Every day where 617 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: I don't feel like i'm you know, it's the commute downtown, 618 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: jumping on the train and walking inside, going to Peter 619 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: Pitt for lunch and piece deserable, miserable. So but anyway, 620 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: that was it. And then Gary Kubiak. How does that happen? 621 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: How do you connect with him and get that gig 622 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL? So I was I was an intern 623 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: for the for No Capers in Vic Fantio. So, so 624 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: what happened was at Central Michigan there was another assistant 625 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: who was now on our staff here. His name is Tonio. 626 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: He's our corners coach here. Um he when we were 627 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: when he was at Central, he and I got very close, 628 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: very quickly. But and he was there for only Spring 629 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: Bowl and then he takes it off. He becomes the 630 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: assistant dB coach for the Houston Texas. He and I 631 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: stay connected, and I go to Georgia and I'm there 632 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: for about two weeks and he calls and says, hey, 633 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: there's an internship available. Would you be interested. I can't 634 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: promise you anything, but you know it's it's five bucks 635 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: an hour. I say, I'm there. Five bucks an hour, 636 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: I'm there, I don't care. And it was like it 637 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: was a really long weekend and coach Capers calls me 638 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: and says, Rob, sounds like you're the guy we need. 639 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: And this was before quality controls was like a full 640 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: time position. It wasn't even a job. Yeah, and so 641 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: I was like, so don Papers was the head coach, 642 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: he was the head coach, so big Fanji was assistant. 643 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: God blessed him. I don't think he talked to me 644 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: until like week six and seas I got hy week 645 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: before a week before the season, and by week by 646 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: week three that season, if everyone remembers, our offensive coordinator 647 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: was let go, and like it was like, Okay, Houston's 648 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: Houston's done. Everyone stores are closed. I'm just sitting here. 649 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, what the heck am I supposed to do? 650 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: Just an intern, which was in hindsight, was lucky because 651 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: they couldn't fire me. I was an intern. I was 652 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: technically on the coaching style. Long story short, Kubiak comes 653 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: in and you know, Mike talked to Michael McDaniel talked 654 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: about it last last week. I was just I was 655 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: a squatter, just kind of hanging out, waiting for a 656 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: cub and hovering around his desk, grabbing his trash whatever, 657 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: talking to him about the building. And when the whole 658 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: weekend of just me and him visiting and uh, finlence 659 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: a coach, I have options, which I didn't, which That's 660 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: what I told my wife. I'd love I'd love to 661 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: be here, um and I'd love to work for you 662 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: and prove myself to however I can. And uh and 663 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: he gave me a job and the rest is history. 664 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: So the rest is history. And the young crew that 665 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: you had there, I mean, he said, Mike, what's a 666 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: twenty two twenty three year old? Mike McDaniel had a 667 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: yale like, what does that hang? Buddy? Rolling my man? No, 668 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: he's like he's a lot like he is now just 669 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: a little bit more paying or you know, he's very 670 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: but the same but the same style, just the just 671 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: um so smart, so authentic, um so so so good 672 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: with his word, so good with his body language, his 673 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: ability to communicate with people, and and the way people 674 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: gravitate to him and just love being around him because 675 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: he's got this personality that's I mean, you've been around him. 676 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: You know, he's got this uh he's got this way 677 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: about him, you know. And uh, um, so he's he's 678 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: been great. But that room, it was, it was there. 679 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: It was me and Mike mcdanel the start, and then 680 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur shows up and he gets thrown on one 681 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: another corner and then in the final corner, was Richard 682 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: hyper years and uh so it was a pretty cool room. 683 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: And then Kyle Shanahan in the hall right behind us, 684 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: just coming in there just magically forgetting how to use 685 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: a copy machine and yelling at the coach only twenty 686 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: five years old, man press the button. But I know 687 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: it was a pretty cool staff. It's funny because we 688 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: always talk about that Washington staff and it was like 689 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: they had lafleur, they had Shanahan, they had McDaniel, they 690 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: had McVeigh. What year was that for that Texans staff? 691 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: We never get that X. That's the five six or 692 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: six staff or six? Ye what did you guys do? 693 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: You had Shaub and Andre like was a team good? 694 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: H So Kyle I think we went um, I want 695 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: to say were nine, seven or eight? We had eight 696 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: and a with them um and Kyle took off to 697 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: Washington to do with his pops and uh but that 698 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: group that eight and eighteen Kyle's last year. He's the 699 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, and it was me McDaniel. H McDaniel had left, 700 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: but me lafleur were in there. So it was just 701 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: it was a cycle. I don't know if we were 702 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: all in there. We're all in there together for one year, 703 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: and then McDaniel took off to take a take advantage 704 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: of an opportunity, and then uh, they all reunited back 705 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: in Washington. We're gonna wrap with two quick questions. One. 706 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: I like to ask this to all the coaches. And 707 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: I know we say we don't play favorites, but it 708 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: could be a sentimental favorite. It could be an all 709 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: around best player, the defensive player that you enjoyed coaching 710 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: the most. Was who in my career? Yeah, man, I 711 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: got a lot of them. Frederico Warner, Who we got? 712 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman? Who are we talking you got? I can 713 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: go through the list. I mean, who comes out person 714 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: in your head? I've been blessed, Shrays, I've been blessed. 715 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: You talked from Houston, Demika Ryans was our linebacker. Him 716 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: and coach like those two unbelievable to right. Then you 717 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 1: go to Seattle, you got the legion of Boom Bobby Wagner. 718 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: Chris Clements was awesome to talk crap with on a 719 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: daily basis. Um. Then you go to uh Jacksonville with 720 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: with Paul Puzzlesni like you talked about I thought he 721 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: was in the military and I was like, are you 722 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: your family? And he's like, what are you talking about coaching? 723 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: Just just football guy. You look at football guy and 724 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: it's his nee, just hands. Just buy the book Love 725 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: puzz I mean the guys guys working as a defense contractor, 726 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: and uh, I'm like, buddy, you know you don't need 727 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: to work. He's like, I get bored him, like like 728 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: he's in rocket science. Basically, I'm like, he's the best. 729 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: And then you go to San Francisco and just the 730 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 1: from the forest Buckner to Warner Um, Jimmy Ward part 731 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman again. I mean, it's been I've been so fortunate, 732 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: and then you get into this group and there's so 733 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: many young personalities here. I have been very, very fortunate 734 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: in my career and like I said, we were You know, 735 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: when you get to one of these seats, it's, uh, 736 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: you've been blessed to be around great players, and every 737 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: head coach, every coach can say that that you're you're 738 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: blessed and we've been fortunate. So and my last question 739 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: is always going to be a little life advice and 740 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: life advice for those at home, and in this case, 741 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: I go back to your year, last year, your house, 742 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: isn't ready yet. You've got seven children, you've got a wife, 743 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,439 Speaker 1: you're in a new market, and correct me if I'm wrong. 744 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: You guys are living in a two bedroom apartment, three 745 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: bedroom apartment while you're waiting through your house. How did 746 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: you get through that? And how did your marriage still stable? 747 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: And take us through just all all the dads and 748 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: husbands out there, seven kids in a two bedroom apartment 749 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: with a new job in a new market. Good luck 750 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: and pull up. We did have Okay, so there's Murphy 751 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: bed Yeah, but now I'll be honest, that credit goes 752 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: to my wife. I got to go to work and 753 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: hide from it. And you know, like I look back 754 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: at it, my kids they grew up like it was 755 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: almost like the way we grew up. You know. I 756 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: was like, hey, i'll meet you, and I meet you 757 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: across the street, or I'll meet you in the in 758 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: the lobby or whatever. Like they were going. I don't 759 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 1: know where the heck they were Half the time, they 760 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: were in you know, Ricky Manning's kids apartment, messing with 761 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: their kids. They're they're messing with all the players. I'm like, 762 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 1: what the heck is going on? World? No, it wasn't 763 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: it's like it's temporary living or it's like just an 764 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: apartment complex for all the Yeah, it's uh, it's extended 765 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 1: basically extended living apartment complexes, and so like the players 766 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: will stay there, and if you're going to be somewhere, 767 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: we need a place to stay for a few months, 768 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: a beautiful place, a nice place. But so my kids 769 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: they're running around, they don't know anybody. They're sleeping on 770 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: top of each other, they don't know anything. And uh, 771 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: the hard part was for my wife and I because 772 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, you want some private time, you want to 773 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: hang out with the web. I want to watch you. 774 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 1: I don't think I watched TV at all last year 775 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: because there's there's always there's one TV. You know, it's 776 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: The Making Mouse Club, you know, it's like but but no, 777 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: it's we're fortunately it's funny now that we're in the 778 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: house and knock out what we got this beautiful home 779 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: and all these bedrooms. Job, they're all in the same bedroom, 780 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: sleeping on top of each Yeah. So I'm like, you know, 781 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: you have your own bedroom, Like god, I want to 782 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: see what Adam he steal all the swan and so 783 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: you got all of them just feet in mouth and 784 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: you're like, what's wrong with you guys? You got all 785 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: the space. But um, I feel like it brought the 786 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: kids to very very close together. And you know, my 787 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 1: wife and I we got a room in the opposite 788 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: side of the room, don't hear in our house, and 789 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: so everything's great. But um, you know, you appreciate you 790 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: always want to look at the silver lining of stuff, 791 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 1: and so you can you can either dwell, you know, 792 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 1: an adversity, or you can uh shine, I guess. And 793 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,439 Speaker 1: I looked at the silver lining and that the kids 794 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: were doing awesome. Yeah, it was a little hard for 795 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,479 Speaker 1: my wife and I, but um, but the kids, which 796 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: is the main thing. My wife is the main thing. 797 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: But the kids, who are also big part of it, 798 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: they were they were thriving, and so it was I 799 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: thought it was cool. You like Jersey huh Yeah, my 800 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: wife loves it. I don't get to see much of it, 801 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: but I do. I. Um, I love the fact. That's 802 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: the thing. Man, I grew up in Jersey. It is 803 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: like a thing like once you get here, you really did. 804 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: Everyone Everyone who comes here, they're like, man, New York. 805 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: I was expecting. I was like, no, we're thirty minutes 806 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: away from everything. I mean, everybody knows everybody. You walk 807 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: into the barbershop and it's like every all the locals 808 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: are there, all the kids know, every parent knows every parent, 809 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: every kid knows every kid. And you go to as 810 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: it's it's like where I grew up. You know, you 811 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: go to a graduation party and there's ten parents at 812 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: this graduation party. They're just hanging out, like chaperoning and 813 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: hanging out one another while all their kids are doing whatever. 814 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: And it's like everyone is so tight knit, and it's 815 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: just you feel safe in that regard because you know 816 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,280 Speaker 1: your kids can just ride a bike and go somewhere, 817 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: and you know that if something's wrong, somebody knows somebody 818 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: to make sure that your kid gets home safely. Uh 819 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: So I love it here. It's beautiful. It's not New York. 820 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: It's New Jersey, but you're thirty minutes from New York 821 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: where you can go get all of New York that 822 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: you want, but you can still kind of escape to 823 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: the quiet birds, which is my style. And uh but 824 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: but it's you know, we're fortunate. We're in a very 825 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: very nice area and my wife loves it and we 826 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: love it. We can be happier. I'm happy for you 827 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: man three and two going into Lambeau. It's a cool 828 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: moment for Robert Salo and the New York Jets. And 829 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 1: I appreciate you being our first guest on the season 830 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: with Peter Schreker. This is awesome, dude, Thank you. I 831 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 1: appreciate you, brother, You're the man. Guys, Robert Sala awesome 832 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 1: as always. Good luck this weekend. Thanks man. Robert Salo 833 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: was awesome. That guy. He's a great coach and a 834 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: great man. And I gotta tell you, the team we 835 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: have an NFL network is pretty awesome too. And one 836 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: of the sneaky easter eggs that we have on Good 837 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,479 Speaker 1: Morning Football is that we've got one of the best 838 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 1: research groups you will see in sports television. And at 839 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,720 Speaker 1: the Combine and at the Draft. I'm on the panel 840 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: there and it's like my favorite time of the year. 841 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing all the draft stuff and I've got this 842 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: little secret weapon in my back pocket. And his name 843 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: is Tony Holzman Escorreno, and Tony is our researcher on 844 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 1: that set, and it's myself, it's Chris Rose, it's Charles Davis, 845 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: and Tony and I we bust balls, but we also 846 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 1: love to go through the actual numbers and like dig 847 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: a little deeper and get those nuggets. Tony, welcome to 848 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 1: the podcast. Man, appreciate you having me, Shregs. It's an 849 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: honor to be here, which you obviously we have a 850 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: great time at the Combine in the draft every year, 851 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: but it's good to be in a different media in 852 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: which you're here. Let me tell you something. I thought 853 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: it'd be cool every week to have a segment for 854 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: the listener. It's called make Me Smarter. And what I'm 855 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: gonna do is I'm gonna lean on you and your 856 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: brethren over there in the research group, and you're going 857 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 1: to make me smarter. And in this case, I watch 858 00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: this Dallas Cowboys defense and I see Michael Parsons empty bag, 859 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: get sacks, play defensive end, play linebacker, play quarter on 860 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 1: some plays, and he's everywhere and historical. I'm like, he's 861 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: kind of like LT, but he's also kind of like 862 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: you know, Aaron Donald in a way. The segment is 863 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: called make Me Smarter, And the question is this, Tony, 864 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,919 Speaker 1: how the heck does Michael Parsons do it? What makes 865 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: him what he is? Make me smarter. I mean, when 866 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: we watch Michael Parsons play, it's easy to see that 867 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: he's a unicorn on the field. I mean, every time 868 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: you see him, he's the best athlete on the field 869 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: by far. The thing that we do know that anybody 870 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: can look up. Michael Parsons is tied for first in 871 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: the sacks this year, and he's tied for fourth in 872 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: the NFL and sacks going back to his rookie season 873 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 1: at twenty twenty one. But honestly, Parsons has put up 874 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: full time production in a part time role. He has. 875 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 1: He had a quote that said, me at sixty percent 876 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: is better than most people's hundred percent, so we're gonna 877 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: show it. So Parsons only rushed the pastor on sixty 878 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: percent of his snap since twenty twenty one, despite that 879 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 1: he's top five in sacks. He's the only player and 880 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: the top fifty and sacks to rush the pastor on 881 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 1: fewer than seventy five opponent dropbacks, which is insane. And 882 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: as you were saying that he does so many different things, 883 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 1: he's the only player with two hundred and fifty snaps 884 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 1: against the run in coverage and rushing the pastor since 885 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. According to our NFL in House Next 886 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: Year stats. Now, his role has changed a little bit 887 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: this year. So going back to his rookie season, Parsons 888 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: had three games with two or more sacks will rushing 889 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: the passer on only half of his half of opponent 890 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: drop backs. That was only fewer than three other players, 891 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: including TJ. Watt, who won Defensive Player of the Year, 892 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: had had six such games. If we fast forward to 893 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, his roles changed because he's rushing the 894 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 1: pastor on eighty percent of his drop backs, and he 895 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,479 Speaker 1: already has three games with two sacks in the first 896 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: five games of the season, which is insane. It puts 897 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,280 Speaker 1: him on pace for ten, which would break the NFL 898 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: record held by Reggie White in his nineteen eighty seven 899 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: defensive play the year ten games, ten games of two 900 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 1: or more sex games and two or more Sexeggie did 901 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 1: it that year. Reggie White had eight, So he's on 902 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 1: pace to break it by two games. It's insane. Now. 903 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: If we want to look get into this week and 904 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: the matchup with the Eagles, Yeah, the Eagles have PFF's 905 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 1: highest graded pass blocking offensive line this season, and the 906 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: Cowboys have PFF's highest graded pass rush, so that's a 907 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 1: great matchup to watch. Now, Parsons, as we've talked about, 908 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: splits his time all over the place, and he rushes 909 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: from the left side and the right side when he's 910 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 1: lined up against right tackle Lane Johnson. That's a strength 911 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: against strength matchup PFF's highest graded offensive line, offensive tackle 912 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,760 Speaker 1: and pass blocking versus p f second highest graded edge rusher. 913 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: And then the thing when it goes weakness on strength 914 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: is Jordan Malata miss last week with the shoulder injury 915 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: and Jack Driscoll started for him. He's gonna have to 916 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,720 Speaker 1: do with Parsons for the other half of the snap. 917 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: So the matchup will be very interesting to watch in 918 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: the sense of you have an all Pro against an 919 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: all Pro, and the you have an all Pro against 920 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: the backup. Possibly Yeah, and that could be the formula 921 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys pulling upset against the Eagles. Yeah. I 922 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: ask you because you're making us smart with all the 923 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 1: numbers and stuff. I mean, just the naked eye coming 924 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: out of the draft. You and I do all this 925 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: draft stuff. We do the calm. By what I was saying, 926 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: we knew he'd be good. Did you have any idea 927 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: that he would be like this, not at all, not not. 928 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I knew he could rush the pass or 929 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: some but nobody expected him to be that at two 930 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 1: hundred and four generational talent. He moves offensive line in 931 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: one hundred pounds more than him, which is insane, and 932 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,479 Speaker 1: he can run with wide receivers like he's he hasn't 933 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: allowed a receiving a touchdown and coverage in his career. 934 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 1: And he rushed like he's such a unicorn. And like 935 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: the crazy thing is I'm in New York Giants had 936 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: that pick and Penn State Giants like it's a he 937 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: fits everything lt the history, all of the stuff. Giants 938 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: trade that pick, they get next year's first, and then 939 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 1: they get Cadarius Tony, um, and you know, we'll look 940 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: at that for the next The next year's first ended 941 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 1: up being Evan Neil, but like, we'll look at that 942 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: for a long time. Evan Neil and Kadarius Tony and 943 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: they end up passing on just having Michael Parsons who 944 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: was in there that they better hope Evan Neil is 945 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: what they think he is because he's no dealing with 946 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons for a long, long time. Absolutely all right, Tony, 947 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,439 Speaker 1: you're the man. Much appreciated. Thanks for making me smarter. 948 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Shirks, thank you for having me on. 949 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: It means a lot beautiful, all right. One of the 950 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: things that's cool about having my own podcast is I 951 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: can bully around the bosses and the producers and say 952 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: I want I want my friends on it too. I 953 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: don't just want, you know, fancy NFL superstars, and I 954 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: want guys that I grew up with who I think 955 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: are hilarious and if they were in our line of work, 956 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 1: would all be superstars too, because they're smart, they're funny, 957 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 1: and they're my guys and my gals. And one of 958 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: them is my college roommate, Aaron. Aaron, I'm gonna let 959 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: you up right now. We went to Emmery University from 960 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: the years two thousand and two thousand and four. Many 961 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: nights at Club one twelve listening to the Ying Yang Twin, 962 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 1: and many a great great late night trips to the 963 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 1: Harris Teeter or the Kroger Market to get some chicken 964 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: wings at two am. Aaron, welcome to the podcast. Thank you, Peter. 965 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 1: Some of my finest memories of my life of course, 966 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: and thank you so much. It said an honor. It's 967 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 1: a dream. You know. We had a radio show going 968 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 1: back in the day at the Emery University and it's 969 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 1: been twenty years in the making, Peter, I've been waiting 970 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: for you to finally get me on something and maybe 971 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,839 Speaker 1: we can recreate some of the magic that we used 972 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: to have from from back in the day. Thank you 973 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 1: so much. It's an honor to be here on this podcast. 974 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: So let me let me start it off with some 975 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 1: more about you. You're an La guy through and through, 976 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: and I was a Jersey guy. We were roommates throughout college, 977 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: fraternity brothers, the whole thing. But one of the things 978 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: that you're interested in that I don't give a crap 979 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 1: about is like this weird sci fi superhero and like 980 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: to the point where it could be the third offshoot 981 00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 1: of a Star Wars show, and you've already binged the 982 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 1: entire thing or Marvel Universe. You can reference the eleventh 983 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 1: character from the Iron Man film and you'll give me 984 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: the full Wikipedia on him. And we were at dinner 985 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 1: last week with a bunch of our college friends and 986 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: you made a statement that I thought would rock the world. 987 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 1: The statement was that this new Game of Thrones, this 988 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:22,800 Speaker 1: House of the Dragons, is superior to the original. R R. 989 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: Martin far superior. Take it away, Peter, far superior. And 990 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 1: thanks for the shout out to La Go Dodgers. Sorry 991 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 1: to the family for staying up till two in the 992 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 1: morning for the next month of October. Yes, Peter, absolutely, 993 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 1: it's better. You're kidding me. From the opening lines, from 994 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,359 Speaker 1: the opening segment, you know, everybody wants to think that 995 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: the old Game of Thrones. Right at the music hits 996 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 1: in and you get all the old world coming. We 997 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: got blood lines flowing from date. From the first second, 998 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 1: this show starts all about the blood lines. And this 999 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: show it's far superior. I think this show is just 1000 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 1: on a different level. And you know the reason why, Peter. 1001 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna take it back 1002 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: to your show here, but your football. I mean, listen, 1003 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 1: you and I know football quite well. We know we 1004 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,760 Speaker 1: know what we see a great backup quarterback in action. Okay. 1005 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: Now the reason this show so good. You got someone 1006 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: called Miguel Sapatchnick. I don't know you know who who 1007 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: that is? Okay, character and actor Miguel Miguel is a 1008 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 1: is a writer, he's a director. He's a man who 1009 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 1: was standing behind uh, mister Benioff, mister Weiss, the creators 1010 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: of Game of Thrones for many seasons, sit in the 1011 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: winds waiting. Okay. This is a guy who directed one 1012 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 1: of the greatest episodes of Game of Thrones, the Battle 1013 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: of the Bastard John Snow versus Ramsey Bolton. Okay, one 1014 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 1: of the best episodes. This guy has been waiting. He's 1015 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,280 Speaker 1: like a he's like a geno smith. He's been waiting 1016 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: for his moment. Okay, and here he is. This is 1017 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 1: his show. This is a Miguel Sapatchnick show. Comes in 1018 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 1: House of Dragons. It is beautiful, I mean beautiful. This 1019 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 1: show got a great story. All about the story, you know, 1020 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 1: in fact, you know you want to compare it to 1021 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: another show that's out there right now, The Rings Show 1022 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 1: over on the Amazon. I mean, it's all about the story. 1023 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: The story's lacking over with the Rings Show. It's it's 1024 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: so good over on House of Dragon. It just and 1025 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 1: and personally, I just think, you know, I don't need 1026 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 1: all the fantasy. You know, of course I love that, 1027 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,319 Speaker 1: thank you. You know, I am a big fan of 1028 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 1: all these these these genres. But you know with Game 1029 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: of Throws, you had it had the Walkers, and he 1030 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,280 Speaker 1: had the war dragons had all these things and whatever 1031 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: House of dragged. All I need is a good story 1032 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: and dragons. That's it, cut and dry. Not a lot 1033 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: going on except for great story and dragons. Okay, I 1034 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: didn't watch a single episode of Game of Thrones, And 1035 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: a lot of the listeners will be like, well do 1036 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: that immediately? Um, where when do you watch this during 1037 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 1: football season? Like? What are you a guy who watches 1038 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 1: its Sunday night and then reads all the recaps and 1039 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: gets on the podcast listens to like the watch with 1040 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 1: Andy Greenwald and all those guys? Or do you watch 1041 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: at your own leisure? No? We as you know, Peter, 1042 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,919 Speaker 1: you know, I'm busy. I got I got a job, 1043 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: I do things like a family and everything. So I 1044 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,280 Speaker 1: stay until two in the morning, three in the morning, 1045 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, pretty much every night. You know, I need 1046 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 1: some me time. And the me time is usually when 1047 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 1: I consume my content, call my stories my content. And yes, 1048 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: I watch I watch it right on the Sunday night. Absolutely, 1049 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 1: I need I need to see the show right away 1050 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 1: because then I go to the old YouTube and I 1051 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 1: watched some of my favorite YouTubers recap some of the videos. Right, 1052 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: explainer videos, right, of course, of course we've got to 1053 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 1: get a little Easter eggs here and there, a little 1054 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 1: timmy back to the stories. You'll give me some reminders. 1055 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. Okay, you know I'm I love it, Peter, Yeah, 1056 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm consuming content in the in the wee hours of 1057 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: the night most nights. This might be a weekly segment. 1058 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 1: You give us a little recommendation or something, but that 1059 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: is the take. Listeners, if you're listening, I want a 1060 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: Game of Thrones inferior to House of Dragons. You heard 1061 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,800 Speaker 1: it from my college roommate, one of my best friends, 1062 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 1: mister Aaron on the call. Listen, real quick story to 1063 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,800 Speaker 1: sum up this guy's love for that kind of genre. 1064 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,359 Speaker 1: We always joke about it. We were on a trip 1065 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 1: to Nashville last year, first time all of our college 1066 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 1: guys were together since COVID. We go out on Broadway. 1067 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 1: We have a big night. I'll name drop Blake Shelton 1068 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 1: sets us up at his little honky tonk, the Old Red. 1069 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 1: We have this great night night. We get back to 1070 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: the hotel, around three in the morning, we're together for 1071 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 1: the first time and there's just a light beaming. Yeah, 1072 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 1: we still all crash in the same hotel room, don't 1073 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 1: question us. But we see this light beaming from one 1074 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: of the corners of the room and it's Aaron watching 1075 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 1: his phone. We're like, what the hell are you doing? 1076 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,839 Speaker 1: And tell the audience what you had to do at 1077 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: three in the morning after a big parting night in Nashville. Loki. 1078 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 1: It was all about Loki, amazing show, and I was 1079 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 1: catching up on whatever episode four of Loki. I mean 1080 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 1: I needed to you know, get and you know, unwind 1081 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: a little bit before I got to bed, listen to 1082 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,399 Speaker 1: my stories watching the content. Great show, by the way, 1083 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,919 Speaker 1: phenomena three three in the morning, Four forty year old 1084 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,399 Speaker 1: men in a room, lying around, just trying to figure 1085 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 1: out how we're gonna wake up the next morning. And 1086 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,479 Speaker 1: there's a beam of light and it's some show called 1087 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 1: Loki and one of our friends is devouring at all friend, 1088 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,919 Speaker 1: is you Aaron? Thank you for joining the podcast. Peter, 1089 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 1: all right, and that's a rap, that's what we believe it. 1090 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: We start with Arrowhead Stadium and talking about the intensity 1091 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 1: between the Chiefs and the Bills, and we end it 1092 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 1: with the intensity of Game of Thrones versus House of Dragons, 1093 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 1: and in between we talked Micah, we talked with Robert 1094 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,839 Speaker 1: Salah and we had a blast. I want to thank 1095 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: our producer, Aaron Wong Kaufman. Aaron, thank you, Bro. I 1096 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 1: want to thank Tony, our research expert, Tony Holtzman Escarano. 1097 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 1: And we want to thank our music man, Jack rud 1098 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 1: who made this music and it was awesome and we're 1099 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: going to continue to keep on rolling. Week six is 1100 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: on the way. It's Bills, Chiefs week. Let's go baby. 1101 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to everyone,