1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome to move the stick DJ. Bucky 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: back with you. Buck. How you doing man, man, I'm good. 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's always an exciting time. We got Thursday 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: Night Football on tap. We had a lot of moving 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: moving parts this week. A lot of players being surprisingly 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: released but already linking up with new teams. Talk about 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: We're talking about Stephan Gilmore and Jayleen Smith going to 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: new locations. And then you know, just football, man, this 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: is just football football weekend. We've got a fun, fun 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: episode today. We're gonna have your former coach, Mac Brown, 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: good friend of the show. He's gonna join us. Um, 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: we've got to catch up with him, see what he's 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: got going on, talking about his quarterback a little bit. 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: And Sam Howell. Um, we're gonna talk about some uh 16 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: some stats. I want to hit you and get your 17 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: thoughts on, as well as a preview a little bit 18 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: of this Thursday Night contest. But there is some news 19 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: there at the top. Just your takeaways here two interesting 20 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: signings after after players being released. Here. Uh, first of all, 21 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: I think it's important to explain, uh why Jalen Smith 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: was released and Wi Stefind Gilmour was traded prior to 23 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: being released. Yeah, no, it's interesting to Jaden Smith. Thing 24 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: is is one of those that I think anybody should 25 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: should have been able to see this coming. I actually 26 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: thought it would be a deal that would take place 27 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: in the preseason. Um Normally, DJ when you draft two 28 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: linebackers high at a position that you have people there, 29 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: it kind of means they're telling you something. But the 30 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: Cowboys didn't only draft to they signed another one in 31 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: Kean O'Neil, So you knew that there was some displeasure 32 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: with how they were the production they were getting from 33 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: the position. And then in Jalen Smith, when you were 34 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: looking at the tape the last couple of years, he 35 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: has some athletic deficiencies that showing up. He's a guy 36 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: that you can't necessarily leave on the field consistently on 37 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: passing downs. And to be honest, last year he didn't 38 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: play very hard. The effort wasn't necessarily up to the standards. 39 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: Now this year, I would say it was a different 40 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. They just smelt played better. I felt like 41 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: the effort was there, even though he wasn't starting at 42 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: nineteen two of Coles you had a chance to see 43 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: him up close and personal. But the Chargers, he was 44 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: doing some good things. Now seven point two million dollars 45 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: nine point two million and injury guarantees for next year. 46 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: You're the Cowboys. You're saying, m M, you might be 47 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: playing well, but he's not playing well enough for us 48 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: to chance. Well, we could be on the hook for 49 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: if he gets hurt when we have younger players that 50 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: we like in Michael Parsons, Jabril Cox, we like Kean 51 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: O'Neil and Laden Vanda is just healthy and playing well 52 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: in the middle. Yeah, there's different kinds of nervous. There's 53 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: there's your kicker lining up for a game winning field 54 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: goal nervous um. There's standing on the stage before you 55 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: exchange vows, you know, your wedding. I guess some people 56 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: will be nervous there. There's then there's watching somebody who 57 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: you don't think what he used to be on a field, 58 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: knowing if he gets hurt it's gonna cost you nine 59 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: point two million dollars next year. It's a different level 60 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: of nervous. Uh So that was it. I mean, that's 61 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: that's the whole story, you know. I think it was 62 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: the Jets a couple of years ago, remember we Levian Bell. 63 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: It's like, you can't put him out there. He's got 64 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: a huge injury guarantee. Like it's bad enough the previous 65 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: regime gave him all this money, but I'm not gonna 66 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: be on the hook for another year of this. Like 67 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: he's gotta go. So either you can voluntarily remove the 68 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: injury guarantee from your contract, or man, you gotta find 69 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: somewhere else to play man, because I can't. I can't 70 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: be living like that up in the box, watching that 71 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: hope and you don't get hurt. Yeah, No, I wonder, 72 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: like I wonder about that. The thing that I wonder 73 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: um in his deal? Did his deal contained offsets? Because 74 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: if so, then the Packers are on the hook for 75 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: some of that money. Or did Jaden Smith get an 76 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: opportunity to a double dip get the money that he 77 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: was going to get from the Cowboys plus any additional 78 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: moneies that the Green Bay Packers will pay. I think 79 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: for the Packers, though, this actually is good because I 80 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: think they'll get the best version of Jalen Smith, whatever 81 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: that is. I think they'll get a motivated, um, high 82 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: effort player who can help them on early downs because 83 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: they want to go sub package and do all that 84 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: other stuff. But he gives them kind of that older present. 85 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: And we know how this is DJ. Sometimes, if there 86 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: was a player that you really loved in the free 87 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: draft process, when that player's name hits the waiver wire, 88 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: you can't just resist the opportunity to at least bring 89 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: him in and kick the tires, you know. And if 90 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: you go back prior to the injury that he suffered 91 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: in the Fiesta Bowl, he was unbelievable. Man. I don't 92 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: think people realize how good that guy was before he 93 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: got hurt. It was a devastating injury. But a lot 94 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: of people thought he would never play football game. I 95 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: mean he was a dominant, high level I mean he 96 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: might have been what he was, top five prospect in 97 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: the He was my second highest, second or third one 98 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: or two. I mean he was. I mean he was 99 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: a disruptive force off the edge. And so I think, sometimes, man, 100 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: you want to kick the tires and you want to 101 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: see if a change of environment, a change in scheme 102 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: maybe can unlock some of the stuff that we hadn't 103 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: seen him late from yeah, well he was. Again, it 104 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: was a shame that injury was at that game at 105 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: the Fiesta Bowl when that happened. Brutal Man all right, 106 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: stefind Gilmore, similar but different. Right, You've got a player 107 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: who they announced was going to be released, end up 108 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: trading him for a cupcake. I mean it was a 109 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: six round pick, which which, by the way, before I 110 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: get to you on that, I always laugh when people 111 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: are like, how could you only get a six round pick? 112 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: You just gave him away? Sen, You're going, yeah, when 113 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: you announced in the morning that he's going to be released. Okay, 114 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: not a lot of leverage there. And number two, that 115 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: was available to everybody else in the league, So everybody 116 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: else in the league had a chance. So it's not 117 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: what the Patriots said. You know what, we got a 118 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: first round pick offer from uh from the Charges, but 119 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna take the sixth round pick 120 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: offer from That's all they got was a sixth round pick. 121 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: That was what the value was for thirty one year 122 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: old corner coming off injury, who wants a bunch of money? 123 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: And not only that, DJ, isn't that a six round picking? 124 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: So I tweeted, I said this they gave him away 125 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: for a bag of peanuts, Like this is a snack 126 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: back at the end of a road trip, you know 127 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: where you just pulled into the little gas station and say, oh, 128 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: you know, I'm hung get a little snack. That's what 129 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: it is. It's fifty cents bag of peanuts. And what 130 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: it really tells you without telling you outside perceptions a 131 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: lot of different than inside perception on Stefan Gilmore because 132 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: those people who really viewed him as the defensive player 133 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: of the year, the ship down corner that he was 134 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: held to be, he would have command it more in return. 135 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I want to say even Marcus Peters got 136 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: more in return when he was traded from the Rams, right, yeah. 137 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: So so so that they're telling you without telling you 138 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: where he is at this stage of his career. And 139 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: forgil Moore also to think the money that he might want, 140 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: that money is not gonna that money is not gonna 141 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: be there. That money's not gonna be like I mean, 142 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: the money sixteen seventeen million dollar four corner. You still 143 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: gotta be in your prime. Here's what I'll say about 144 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: the Patriots, and this is out. The Pagris always do 145 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: business when it comes to the cornerback position. You and 146 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: I have talked about it. They played man to man 147 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: more than anybody else. And when you play that much 148 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: man to man, you're not only playing man to man 149 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: in games during the regular season, you're playing man to 150 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,119 Speaker 1: man and in practice during the regular season you're playing 151 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: in mini camp and O t a s. You're playing 152 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: it in workouts and drills with GPS. You now are 153 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: better able to understand the knowledge that you're putting on 154 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: your players when you do this. There's a reason why 155 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots typically don't give out big contracts to corners 156 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: after they bring them in, because they know a the 157 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: four or five years that we have them here, we 158 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: are absolutely wearing them out and then we'll let somebody 159 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: else deal with it. We saw him do it with Tydlaw. 160 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: We saw them not commit to the real reevers. We 161 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: saw them play yo yo games with a keep to leave. 162 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: This is what they do, and so they understood exactly 163 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: what they had with Gilmore and Bill Belichick believes, hey, man, 164 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: I'd rather get rid of the player of Year too 165 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: soon rather than a YouTube late, and so that's what 166 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: they do it. Yeah, there's certain positions where youth is served, 167 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: and I would say probably none more so than corners. 168 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: We always say that the combine every year. When people 169 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, would say, oh, forties are overrated for allays, 170 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: I say, no, not for corners, aren't you know? Gotta 171 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: be able to run out there? Gotta be able to 172 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: run because you can't and you can get away with it, 173 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: like you can get away with some with the four 174 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: or five corner for three years, four years maybe, but 175 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: once they get to that second contract, those four five 176 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: corners and now four six corners, and we got we 177 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: got problems. We got problems. And it's a young person's game. 178 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: And depending upon the scheme that you play and the 179 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: teacher that you have in the dB room, you can 180 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: get away. We're playing young dbs. You can get away. 181 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: We're playing young corners and young safeties if the scheme 182 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: is simple enough to allow them to play and you 183 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: have a good teacher in the room. And so you know, 184 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: we talked about a DJ and it's one of those 185 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: things that people go back and forth in the debate 186 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: in terms of like when you build in a an 187 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: elite defense or a Super Bowl team, do you invest 188 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: in the corner right or do you say Hey, give 189 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: me the multiple pass fresh Just give me the dynamic 190 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: second level defender on the inside linebackers, whatever that is. 191 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: And can I get away with less of corners because 192 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: the scheme that we play doesn't put as much pressure 193 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: on the corner to be elite players. I look at 194 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: the Jets, you know, you think about the Jets Robert Sala, 195 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: having coach Richard Sherman. I'm sure there was opportunities for 196 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: the Jets with veteran corners to bring them in it. 197 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: Maybe even some guys you have history with. But I 198 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: think you saw them say, you know what, we're gonna 199 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: roll with young guys. We're gonna roll with our young 200 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: draft picks, a bunch of Day three picks, by the way, um, 201 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: and some undrafted free agents because they're young and they 202 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: can run, and we're gonna develop them. We're gonna believe 203 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,599 Speaker 1: in our coaches, um, and we're gonna play fast. We 204 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: gotta get them coached up. But they you know, especially 205 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: when you're an developing team, you know, a young team, 206 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: or you know team that's not playoff contender, so to speak, 207 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: at this point in time, you don't roll with old corners. 208 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: Man like that. That eliminates a lot of teams. For 209 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: somebody like us to find Gilmore just doesn't make any sense. No, 210 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense. And if you think about it, 211 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: Robi Salva said it to me of Pete Carroll during 212 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: the time where they had all those young players playing well, 213 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,599 Speaker 1: Maxwell and Sherman and anybody ever Waltter to Thurman and 214 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: all those guys playing, and they all what young guys 215 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: can do in a scheme that is really really simple. 216 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: So when you do that with young players or whatever, 217 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: man think about the cost benefit analysis when it comes 218 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: to that they have all those Day three undraft the 219 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: free agents. Now you can commit your big money to 220 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: loading up on the pass rush. That's the trick. The 221 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: trick is, now take the money that you save, and 222 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: can we get two or three pass rushers that can 223 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: attack and beat up the quarterback and do those things. 224 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: That's when the defense kind of goes to the next level. 225 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: And that's when you have a ton of success when 226 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: you think of high price positions and being able to 227 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: get impact players that don't cost anything. I mean, even 228 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: though you take a quarterback high in the draft, relatively speaking, 229 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: it's cheap for that for those first year's cornerback is 230 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: a high ticket item. So if you've got players that 231 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: are playing well on rookie contracts that are late round picks, 232 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: those are huge values, man, because the cost to do 233 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: that out in the open is ridiculously expensive. Man's super expensive. 234 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: And think about the success when we're going back to 235 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: the Patriots j C. Jackson undraft the free agent playing 236 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: lack of ball at the number of interceptions that he 237 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: is being able to produce. Hey, you can live with 238 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: it because even if you come to him early to 239 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: redo the do you're still saving money. So yeah, I'm 240 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: with it. I was a part of an organization they 241 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: went to a super over two undrafted free agent corners 242 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: Terry Cousins and Reggie Howard up front, Julius Peppers horses 243 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: can bring Vissent Buckner and then Mike Rucker. I've seen it. Linebackers, 244 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: Mark Fields, Dan Morrigan. Hey, give me my money up 245 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: front in the front seven, I can figure out a 246 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: way they play coverage with the guys in the back end. 247 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: All right, I want to get to a couple of 248 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: interesting stats and get your thoughts on it. Right after this, 249 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: all right, Buck, I like to dig into the next 250 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: gen stats every week and just see kind of what 251 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: I can come up with. And I've got some interesting 252 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: stuff which we can get to later if we have 253 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: time on this Seahawks Rams game. But I was looking 254 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: up some other stats, um, and I thought, I want 255 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: to hit you up on this. So I was looking 256 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: up quarterbacks and blitz percentage. So in other words, teams 257 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: are who's getting blitz the most, which quarterbacks are getting 258 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: it's the most, and which quarterbacks getting blitzed the least. Um. 259 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: So when we look up here at the top, I 260 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: guess it's probably not a surprise, right that the two 261 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: most blitz quarterbacks so far this year in terms of 262 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: blitz percentage, Number one is Justin Fields. Number two is 263 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: Mac Jones. So the thought process being young quarterbacks him up, 264 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: beat him up, and heat him up. A couple of things. 265 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: One with Justin Fields, anybody who studied the tape from college, 266 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: like most defensive coordinators, will go and they'll look and 267 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: see what guys these are, particularly young quarterbacked. Hey, let's 268 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: see what probably gave him problems in college. Anybody that 269 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: did that saw that pressure forced him into mistakes like 270 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: the two games in particularly that we can talk about 271 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: Northwestern and Indiana where he had turnover issues because his 272 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: own pressures he couldn't necessarily sort it out and made 273 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: him hold onto it. Clock wasn't taking fast enough. So 274 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: now you want to see heasy resolved the issue. And 275 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: then when you look at the Bears offensive line, you're 276 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: some guys that are struggling with that let athleticism, name 277 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: lead Jason Peters, that makes more sit than anything to 278 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: do it. And then the first game that you watch 279 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: Justin Fields, the starting quarterback for the Bears Cleveland, he 280 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: gets touched up nine times. So you absolutely have to 281 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: dial it up and bring it down because you have 282 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: to see have the Bears solve the problem as a 283 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: quarterback courageous enough to be able to withstand the pressure, 284 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: and can their coaches give him a plan that allows 285 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: him to win against pressure. Yeah? So those are the 286 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: most blitz the least splits, And let me get your 287 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: thoughts on this. Ben Roethlisberger is the least blitzed quarterback 288 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Patrick Mahomes is the second least blitz 289 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. Uh then Josh Allen than Aaron Rodgers. 290 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: So when you look at that collection and when you 291 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: look at mahomes, Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers might not be 292 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: three better quarterbacks in the NFL right now. I mean 293 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: that's that's that's elite, elite company. Um, and then Ben 294 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger down there at the at the very least, Blitz, 295 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,239 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? Okay, so let's just Ben Roethlisberger 296 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: of separate and apart from the other guys, because other 297 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: guys are still a playing at a high level. We'll say, 298 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, is this there's enough evidence on tape they've 299 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: been Burger can no longer hurt you with his arm. 300 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: So the reason why you don't bless him. And you're like, oh, 301 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give you a layup. I'm not going 302 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: to give you something where you can see it coming. 303 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: You can quickly identify the slap dope. We're gonna make 304 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: you work to get your completion. So we're gonna sit back, 305 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: We'll looking at the eyes and we're gonna see how 306 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: this slow ball, this, this this changeup comes out of 307 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: your hand and we can go break on because he 308 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: doesn't have the arm talent. That's why they do that 309 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: for Patrick mahomes. Um, you just you just want to 310 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: die slow death. When you're dealing with the Cancie the chiefs, 311 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: you want to just keep the ball in front um park, 312 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: the safety is in the park lot, and make him 313 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: show the patient that he will take the check down um. 314 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: Same thing with Aaron Rodgers and right you don't want 315 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: to You don't want to give him the layup. Aaron 316 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: Rodgers sees the blitz, He's going to make you pay 317 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: right now, and it's gonna hurt because we've seen it. 318 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: You bless him. He's gonna hit to slant the Davante 319 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: Adams over and over and over again. Make him do 320 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: something else. And with Josh Allen, I think why you 321 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: don't bless him is one, Athletically he's a problem, so 322 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: you want to keep your eyes on the zone allows 323 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: you to do that. But two, when you have accuracy 324 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: issues and you're not a guy that really throws with 325 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: timing and anticipation, zone coverage is harder. It clouds the picture, 326 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: but it also requires you to throw with anticipation to 327 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: fit it into some of those windows. He is a 328 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: guy that likes to overpower the ball to fit it 329 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: into those things. You're more likely to force him into 330 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: a turnover. In zone coverage and playing man to man, 331 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: we can see old pressures coming. I can either throw 332 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: it or I can use my athleticism to escape. All right, 333 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: So that was the one stat I want to hit you, 334 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: and I thought you laid that out well. Um, the 335 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: last one here. We always look at pass rushers here 336 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: we like the pass rusher show of record. So just 337 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: looking at pure pressures when you look at hurries so far, 338 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: I should use that term. Max Crosby, Chandler Jones, Aaron Donald, Myles, 339 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: Garrett Yanik and gok Way. That's that's the top right 340 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: now as we sit here through four weeks of the season. 341 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: Anything that stands out to you, what those guys have 342 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: in common or any connection the connection. The first thing 343 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: that I look at is when you look at the 344 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: tape and watch all those guys out standing get off 345 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: great snap count, anticipation and step quickness. They all have 346 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: that ability. Um. The ability to immediately press put pressure 347 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: on the offensive tackle in their first three steps enables 348 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: them to win a few different ways. They can get 349 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: you on their third step. They can dip and go 350 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: up under, or they're gonna set you up. They're gonna 351 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: come inside. That is what they do. And then, uh, 352 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: the other common denominating between all those guys when you 353 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: watch those guys over the course of the game, they 354 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: all play hard and so some of it is they 355 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: went on first reaction because they're speeding quickness, but a 356 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: lot of times it's the extra effort where they just 357 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: out work you and they get the sack before we 358 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: get out of here. We've got one word for you 359 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: guys from a sponsor. They're gonna get right to our 360 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: conversation with with head coach mcbrown. DJ. You know, I 361 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: always get excited when I have an opportunity to talk 362 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: to a college football Hall of Famer, but I'm even 363 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: more excited when I had a chance to talk to 364 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: coach Brown. Coach mcbrown from North Carolina, one of the 365 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: most impactful people that I've had in my life. Coach Brown, 366 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: how are you doing right now? Buck? Yeah, I'm doing great. 367 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: We just want yeah great when you lose everything staying 368 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: it's time of the year. But uh, you big duke, 369 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: that's really important around here, as you know, yeah, all 370 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: the time, and uh, that's that's an important game. They 371 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: have a victory. Bell weill swap it back and forth, 372 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: and it's important we keep it in Chapel Hill. It 373 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: is important. DJ. I'll tell you a quick story about this. 374 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: There was a time where my freshman year we lost 375 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: forty one nothing to Duke Um. Theybody have been Coach Furrey. 376 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: We won't name coach Furrey, but we'll say coach Furrier. Uh, 377 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: they might have. They might have put our nose in 378 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: a little bit. And I remember going into the locker 379 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: room as a young freshman and coach for I said, 380 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: we will never ever, ever ever lose the victory bell 381 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: like that again. And so I think from that point 382 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: we have owned the victory beilt. And so it's very 383 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: important that we dominated the state championship. So it was 384 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: a big win. I watched it. It was great. I 385 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: love that. I love that. It's always an honor for 386 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: me to talk to a former app state head coach, 387 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, like that's Uh, that's why I love having 388 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: coach on here. Uh, coach, how much how much more 389 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: fun is it for you being in full stadiums this 390 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: year after such a bizarre experience last year. It's so 391 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: much more fun. Just you you realize the pageantry that 392 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: you missed. The band the cheerleaders, the walks, the fans, 393 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: the uh, just the part of college football. It's so 394 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: much fun. It was more like a scrimmage. We we 395 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: walked into Virginia and we walked into Boston College. There 396 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: was no one in the stadium and you screamed in 397 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: an echo, and it was really sad. It's just not 398 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: who we are and not what we are. And I 399 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: think the other thing, guys, that that really got me 400 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: is across our country, the businesses that just live off 401 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: college sports just died. Or Port Chapel Hill didn't have 402 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: anybody here on game day, and and there weren't people 403 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: in the restaurants in the hotels, and and all the 404 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: shops downtown, and Bucky's been on Franklin Street when it's 405 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: so packed you couldn't even get in, and and and 406 00:18:55,119 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: to see people back and just loving college football. It's 407 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: better for the players, it's a lot better for the game. 408 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: But the communities are really thriving now again as well. 409 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: You know, Coach. One thing that Dan and I've observed 410 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: in college football, it appears that college football is more 411 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: volatile than ever now. Uh. It appears that literally we 412 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: talked about any Saturday, any team can go down. Can 413 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: you pinpoint why it's so different now than than it 414 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: appeared to be, because it appears now that literally the 415 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: parody in college football is where it's never been at. Guys, 416 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: I'm a college football fan and buff and love it 417 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: and have watched it my whole life. And the only 418 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: thing I can figure is maybe the transfer portals doing it. 419 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: People are leaving faster and they're not as happy, and 420 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: if you don't play one week, you're calling around to 421 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: see if you can get in the portal. And then 422 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: people are bringing in like Clorida State's got thirteen transfers 423 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: from the spring. Um, So locker rooms are different, Bucky Um. 424 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: I think leadership on your team is different. We only 425 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: took one transfer last year with ty Chandler, and it's 426 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: taken him a while to get around the team and 427 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: get to know everybody and get to know the offense. 428 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: So the only thing I can think maybe COVID had 429 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: something to do with it, because we misspring practice and 430 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: people didn't even get to meet some of the people 431 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: they were recruiting. We lost a lot of fundamentals. But 432 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: you know, how long does that last? So I have 433 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: to think it must be that that people are transferring 434 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: all over the country and the makeups of our team 435 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: are different, and a lot of people aren't building a 436 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: team over years from high school up. They're just bringing 437 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: in you guys all the time to stick in places, 438 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: and that's tougher in the locker room. Coach, I'm curious, 439 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: can you identify when you're recruiting guys who would there's 440 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: a terrible term, but who would be more likely to 441 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: be a flight risk? I mean, like when you're bringing 442 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: guys in and you're like, man, I don't know guys 443 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: based off the background. This is any type of adversity 444 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: with this young man, we're gonna we're gonna lose him. Like, 445 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: we gotta find guys we can get to stick around 446 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: here and and not jump in that portal you're just 447 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: talking about Daniel. We were absolutely talking about that. I 448 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: think everybody is you. You take Bucky BUCkies from Raleigh. 449 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: He had great parents that that uh one knew he 450 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: would be a North Carolina graduate, and that's the kind 451 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: of people we try to recruit. We get a footprint 452 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: where the parents and the high school coach and friends 453 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: can drive to see them play. Because it's easier now 454 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: to jump ship easier than ever before. And uh, there 455 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: are some good things about the transfer portal. If a 456 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: second teamer can't play and they want to start, and 457 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: the starting at that time is more important than than 458 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: getting a degree from that school. I got it, but 459 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: I wish we would go back and say there still 460 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: has to be an a pill process. And if the 461 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: pill process is I want to start, I can't. And 462 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: both schools agree that that that's the focus of it, 463 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: let him transfer. It may be Joe Burrow is a 464 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: wonderful story third team quarterback from Ohio's dad. He wins 465 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: a national championship at l s U. That's what the 466 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: portals should be about. But now Sunday cal loss, who's 467 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: gonna try to get in? Uh, it's really amazing. Has 468 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: changed everything And and I don't like the biggest part 469 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: of this, but absolutely, Daniel, we're saying, better be stable 470 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: parents that want their son to get their degree from 471 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: North Carolina so they will have a little bit of 472 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: patience and not be leaving before they have a chance 473 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: to even play. You know, coach uh DJ, you may 474 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: not notice. I read shared my third year in North 475 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: Carolina and during that time, like most young people like 476 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: you can consider like transferring those things. But coach talked about, no, 477 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta deal with some adversity. And really, 478 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: for a really good program, you're not supposed to be 479 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: on the field into your fourth year, in your fifth 480 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: year as they started. Well, Coach, that has changed now 481 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: where guys are coming right out of high school and 482 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: they want to get on the field, and you guys 483 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: are putting them onto the field. How does that change 484 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: the dynamics in the locker room though, of hot shots 485 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: jumping right onto the field and guys who are kind 486 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: of biding their time being bypassed. How do you manage 487 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: the chemistry in the locker room when you have those situations? Bucket, 488 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: it's a lot harder. In fact, Josh downs played behind 489 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 1: Dazz Newsome as a slot last year. Josh is one 490 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: of the most prolific receivers right in out of the country. 491 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: Caught six passes last year. And I had him stand 492 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: up in front of the team the other day and 493 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: I said, were you satisfied? Note were you angry? Did 494 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: you gripe? Yes? Absolutely all of it? Was it worth 495 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: it now for you to un lit up? For you 496 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 1: to learn behind a really good one in Daz Newsom. 497 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: It's now playing for the Bears, so you'd have your 498 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: chance to go, and he said, absolutely, be patient and 499 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: and do that. So what we're still doing, bucking no 500 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: different than when you were here. You gotta earn your way, 501 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: and you've got to earn your way in practice. You 502 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: older ones, you you get the benefit of the doubt 503 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: until you don't. And if you're not playing well, we're 504 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: gonna try to help you get through that. But if not, 505 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: we're gonna move on and put a young one in 506 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: your place. But we're still trying uh to make sure 507 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: that everybody that's playing has earned that right. Coach, your 508 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: players are constantly learning. I know you're constantly learning about 509 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: your players. What have you learned about your quarterback? And 510 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: Sam Howell through this year, he's tough as nails. He 511 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: hasn't really changed since the first day was here. We 512 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: haven't helped him as much this year as we need to. 513 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: And everybody knows he's the key and he's a superstar. 514 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: So that we're we've had more sacks than we're supposed to. 515 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: We've he's running the ball more so they're trying to 516 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: beat him up and hit him and knock him out there, 517 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: even saying that publicly that we're we're taking legal so um, 518 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: so we're we're I think we're settled back down. We're 519 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: getting better on defense, but offensively we've been so inconsistent. 520 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: We may score three touchdowns in ten plays and then 521 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: not score for a quarter. So we've got to get 522 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: some consistency to get back to where we need to 523 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: be offensively. Uh, Daniel, it's been too easy. The last 524 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: two years were just run him down the field and 525 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: it's just been absolutely like a video game. And there's 526 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: been a frustration with me, with Sam, with our our 527 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: team offensively, on our coaches that it hasn't been as easy. 528 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: So we're having to go back and get a new 529 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: identification and realize who we are. We are different and 530 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: if we win the game seven, that's fine, But in 531 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: our two losses, we've turned it over trying to make 532 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: too many plays, you know, coach and thinking about that 533 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: because you do have a superstar quarterback or quarterback that 534 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: on the outside that the buzz is about where he 535 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: could be drafted. Um next spring if he elects to 536 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: come out, how do you work with Sam to not 537 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: focus on that stuff and to just focus on being 538 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: a really good player on the level that he's at 539 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: right now, because it is a challenge. There's there's so 540 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: many new challenges for these young people. The transfer porters 541 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: a challenge because they've got their buddies Callum saying can 542 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: you can you get Coach Brown to take me? And 543 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: then that's different, it's a different dynamic and Coach is 544 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: really good, man, can you take him? We don't have 545 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: a spot on who we are, I know, but he's 546 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: my buddy and he's really good. We'd have a great 547 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: combination together. And then you've got a name, image and 548 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: lightness with is absolutely nuts that there are now boosters 549 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: who can pay players, but you can't pay them for play. 550 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: Wink wink, nod nod. Why you're paying them for I 551 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 1: think that means, Daniel, you can't pay them per touchdown. 552 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: And then the same in recruiting, we're all trying to 553 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: figure out you you can't use name, image and likeness 554 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: to help recruit. Uh so what does what does that mean? Um? 555 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: And and then you've got the Heisman hopeful talk, and 556 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: then you've got the top ten for us talk, which 557 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: we weren't ready for that yet um, and then you've 558 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: got the draft. What happens in the draft with all 559 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: your players. We were lucky enough to have five players 560 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: drafted last year. Now all of our guys think they're 561 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: gonna be drafted. Uh, we know that's not true. It 562 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: just it just doesn't happen. So I think with social media, 563 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: with all the new stuff that's out there, I was 564 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: in your job for five years, I know it's important 565 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: to have talk. And that's we want. We want the 566 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: barbershop talking, the uh internet talking. We want people stirring 567 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: it up and liking and disliking and disagreeing with and 568 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: all that. I got it. But it's not healthy for 569 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: some of these young people. So what we've tried to 570 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: do is say, guys, it's really important that you understand 571 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: the ball comes before the brand. And if you're not 572 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: doing really good with your ball, there ain't gonna be 573 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: no brand because they're only gonna pay for somebody who 574 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: is being so productive that it helps sell their business. 575 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: And I think that's what guys have to understand. I 576 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: think it will settle down some next year. And and 577 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: and guys, in the draft, you're not gonna make enough 578 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: money in name image and likeness that it's gonna help 579 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: you enough if you start losing money in the graph 580 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: because you don't play well. So don't don't gain hundreds 581 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: of thousands to lose millions. That's a smart coach. But 582 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: can you can you imagine back in the day. I mean, 583 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: I can just imagine in the nineties the ad that 584 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: comes on TV in in the Carolina and it's Bojangles 585 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: where you can get your biscuits fast. How fast Bucky 586 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: Brooks goes through drive through the springing running through there, 587 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: he grabs his biscuit and he's on his way. I mean, 588 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: he would have been a star. Natron means his back 589 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: and run. He said the other day, Hey, Natro means business. 590 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: Would have been a slogan with like this coach. So 591 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 1: there is no question one of the fastest players. So 592 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: they would have been lightening something coach coach. The Chili's 593 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: The Chili's logo was literally of a pepper. You try 594 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: and tell me, Julius Peppers couldn't have some major Chili's 595 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: endorsements go back then. So I just saw bo Corals 596 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: the other day had something on Bojangles. Uh, that's so, 597 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: that's so great. Coach. So we always have a lot 598 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: of coaches that are listening um to the podcast, and 599 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: I want to lead on you obviously because you've done 600 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: it um at a high level. So this season, your team, 601 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: your team came in with a lot of expectations, right, 602 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk about top tens and competing 603 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: at the top of the championship and those things. How 604 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: is a coach? Are you able to manage those expectations, 605 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: particularly when you have a couple of missteps early in 606 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: the year. How do you handle your team when some 607 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: of the things that appear to be out there for 608 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: him may not exist anymore. Well, Bucky, you know, we've 609 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: always been retally honest with our team, and that's very important. 610 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: And it's catchy in preseason because you don't want to 611 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: tell them they're not a top ten team. But at 612 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: the same time, you you've got to earn it. And 613 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: I said in the media, and I've always said, preseason 614 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: rankings mean absolutely nothing because you haven't earned them. There's 615 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: somebody's opinion. The ones at the end matter. So that's 616 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: the way I tried to handle it is as I 617 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: wish we didn't have preseason rankings because they're really not real. 618 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: And then eight teams getting knocked out of the top 619 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: twenty five the first week, nine the second week, and 620 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: then we're all saying, well, they're not that good. Well 621 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 1: you're the one I said we were. We didn't say 622 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: we were, so come on. And the other thing we 623 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: try to do Bucky for all the coaches out there 624 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: is we try to relate it to life. If you 625 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: have a bad day at work, you're not gonna quit 626 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: just because maybe your expectations weren't met the first month 627 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: in work. You're gonna give up. No, you're gonna get better. 628 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna get better every day. You're gonna have. Adversity 629 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: is gonna make you get tougher and pull your family 630 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: together and pull your time together. Because there may be 631 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: a time that you have a sick child or lose 632 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: a child, you may get divorced, um, you may get 633 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: fired in your job. So this is a great opportunity 634 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: to learn how to handle adverse things that are gonna 635 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: happen in your life because we all have it. But 636 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: we all have stuff in our life that we didn't 637 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: plan fire. Because life's fun, but life's tough, and there's 638 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: no better teacher than college football after a loss, when 639 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: everybody's turning on you and everybody's down on you, and 640 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of buzzing social media, and our guys 641 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: are all addicted to their their phone, so they'll watch 642 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: it all. I'll watch it now when you get your 643 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: rear inn kicked. But listen as much fun. But learn 644 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: that's where life is and that that so don't worry 645 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: about the end. You do your best, You get better 646 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: every week, and let's see what's out there at the end. 647 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: You'll get what you deserve. You get what you earn, 648 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: not what somebody said you were supposed to have before 649 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: you started. And that's why this weekend so important for us. 650 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: We were back on track with the Duke win. We 651 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: need to get better each week, and defensively we did 652 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: that last week. Can they lesson in life? Can they 653 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: handle all the praise this weekend? Go back and work 654 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: and get better. Offensively? We played great against Virginia and 655 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: played good since we've been inconsistent. Um, So don't listen 656 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: to all the hype and and let it make you 657 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: be worse, because then you'll never be consistently good. And 658 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: you've got to be consistently good before you can be 659 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: great at something. Coach. I'm gonna take a left turn 660 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: here with this question. I was talking to to Scott 661 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: Sadderfield the other day and in the midst of our 662 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: discussion he mentioned something about his friendship with the Louisville 663 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: baseball coach and they've had a lot of success there 664 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: with their baseball program. He's able to learn some stuff 665 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: from other coaches on campus. I can't help but see 666 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: MJ on your logo right there? Has there been? Is 667 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: there anything you've learned from from Roy Williams just being 668 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: around him and known him as long as you have? Yeah, Daniel, 669 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: did you go back to coach Smith? Oh? Yeah, I 670 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: mean I grew up with coach Smith here and I 671 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: had ten years with him. I had a year with 672 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: coach Roy Williams the first time he was here before 673 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: he went to Kansas, and then since he's been back, 674 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: he and I've been very close and very close friends. 675 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: And there were a number of things I learned from 676 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: just a few things. For coaches, Uh, they have a 677 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: thought of the day every day that they meet with 678 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: their team, and it's a well thought out thought. So 679 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: since we're in the modern age year of video. Instead 680 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: of quotes, we have a video from a great player, 681 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: a great coach every morning at six thirty when we 682 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: meet to start to day, and it's very important that 683 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: it sets the tempo and it's about how to respond 684 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: after a loss. It's I had a handle praise, It's 685 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: it's Drew Brees, it's Peyton Manning, it's it's Kobe Bryant, 686 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: it's it's some body that they look up to telling 687 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: them how to handle the things that that I want 688 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: them to handle every day. The second thing, I sat 689 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: down with Coach Guthridge and Coach Smith one time and said, 690 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: why are you also good? You're always good. I know 691 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: you've got good players, but why are you so good? 692 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: And they said Pete t And I said, what wasn't mean? 693 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: They said playing time, take your great ones and when 694 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: do they get tired, and that backup should be in 695 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: because he can take three minutes of energy and be 696 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: better than a tired superstar. And that taught me then 697 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: that you you better be really good at your depth 698 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: and substitution. So one of the key things that we 699 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: have to do each week is to make sure that 700 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: we do not have a tired player on the field. 701 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: So if we see a loaf, he's out. If we 702 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: see a guy duck his head and have bad body language, 703 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: he's out. If we see a guy put his hands 704 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: on his hips because he's tired, he's out. Because if 705 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: they are tired, we should have recruited well enough that 706 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: that next level guy can come in and give us 707 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: ten plays at high energy better than the superstar is tired. 708 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: And those two things are things that they've taught me 709 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: that have really helped. Wow, you know, coach, I know 710 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: this weekend, especially because even though Bobby Bowden was at 711 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: Florida State, you guys are honoring him. And I know 712 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 1: you spent some time with coach Bowden. Um, what did 713 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,479 Speaker 1: you learn from your time or your interactions with Coach 714 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: Bowden that you've implemented in your own coaching style And 715 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: why is it so important for you to honor him 716 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: this weekend? Buck? Yeah, number one. I want to honor 717 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 1: him because he touched so many lives. I was around 718 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: Coach Royal a lot of Texas and Troll got dementia 719 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: and he came to a game and Darryl Royal Memorial 720 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: Stadium the last time he was at the stadium. He 721 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: didn't know where he was. He didn't know it was 722 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: his stadium. And then after that he talked to him. 723 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: He didn't know who was playing. He said which which, 724 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: Who's who? I said, coach, were playing Wyoming and he 725 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: said which is which? So he didn't even know that 726 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: the bern orange jersey for Texas. He never forgot players names, 727 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: ex players names. I would see them all come and 728 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: visit him, and he'd say, Billy John, hey, remember the 729 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: play you made? And so what's really important to coaches 730 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: at the end as their ex players and the impact 731 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: hopefully they had on their lives. That that's that's what 732 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: you have. Nobody cares about him any games you want 733 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: or how many championships that keeps you coaching, because they 734 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: fire you if you don't do those things and you 735 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 1: don't get to be around the players. But Coach Biden 736 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: touched so many lives it was unbelievable, and mine included. 737 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: So I would call him Bucky and say we've lost 738 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: Oklahoma too many times in a row. Coach, you're losing 739 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: to arrival. What do you do? And he says, when 740 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: you're good enough, and he's tired enough of hearing it. 741 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: You'll beat him. And I hope we're good enough. And 742 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 1: the Black Coach Royal Coach Bawden could take very very 743 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: complicated things and make them simple. And he also taught 744 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: me to be myself. He was just himself. And I 745 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: said one time, is is Coach Bawden that laid back? 746 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: I mean, is he really that chill? And they said, no, No, 747 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: he's tough, he's disciplined. That's just who he is in public. 748 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: And and uh, you know, Bucky, that's kind of the 749 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: way I am. I have find have to cut up. 750 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: But if it's time to work, we gotta go to work, 751 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: and we can make hard decisions and and uh. And 752 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: he taught me that when we played the game and 753 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: now he said that out here. They were one and 754 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: we were four and I sat there and he had 755 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: a stool because his back was hurting him, and he 756 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: sat on the stool the whole game. And I told 757 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: him before the game, my goal today is get you 758 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: off that stool. We're not gonna happen. Another game will go, 759 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: but you're not getting me off. But he was just 760 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: he was fun. When we first started and Bucky was 761 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: on the team, and we were so bad talking about 762 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: those Duke Gears where we lost them to in a row, 763 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,959 Speaker 1: and we were we were one in seven the first 764 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: year and coach Boden was coming to town with Florida State. 765 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: He put his arm around me the middle of the 766 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 1: field and he said, you know what you're doing this right? 767 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: This is great, said you. You've lowered expectations there on me. 768 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,919 Speaker 1: If we don't see them perfectly, man, you just keep 769 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: doing what you're doing. And right before we're playing the 770 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: number one team the country is getting ready to kill us. 771 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 1: For the next year, we go to Tallahassee and I'm 772 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: in the middle of the film. We're oh and seven. 773 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: He says, last year I told you were doing it right. 774 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: You'm out how to pick it up a little bit. 775 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: But that was just him. He would just tell you 776 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: what he thought. And he was a great mentor for 777 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: me and and finding my life and and I'm loving 778 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: helping younger coaches now if they call him, asked, because 779 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: the Joe Paternos and the Darryl Royals and the Bobby 780 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: Bowden's and all those guys, when I pick up the 781 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: phone and call them, that called me right back and 782 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: try to help me with any problems. That I had. Well, Coach, 783 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: this has been awesome. Man. It feels like you're just 784 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: talking to a member of the family here, and we 785 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: learned something from you each and every time, so I know, 786 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: I know you can be like a father figure to Buck. 787 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 1: I just want you to be my uncle, so I'm giving. 788 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: I just want to be uncle status here. So we 789 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: got to go to Boon next year, so I might 790 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: wait till after that, but I know you're not gonna 791 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: be pulling for us in that game. So family's family family, 792 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: But as soon as we get back from Boone, we 793 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 1: can pull the uncle in. Coach. I'm gonna tell you, man, 794 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: you got me thinking now back in ninety eight and 795 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: two thousand when we beat wake Forest, I mean, I 796 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: think the Daniel Boone could have given me a little 797 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: bit of an endorsement deal and an n I l Era. Man, 798 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: there is no question I would have dined just for 799 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: the free biscuits. I don't need to. I don't even 800 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: that would have been worth it because I've be there 801 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: way too many times. There's one problems with my Now, Hey, 802 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,760 Speaker 1: coach man, best of luck this week. We always appreciate 803 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: your time. You're the best man. Thanks guys, thanks for 804 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: having me all Buck, It's awesome to catch up with 805 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: your former coach in mac Brown. You know what what's 806 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: funny man is like he's lived He's lived so much 807 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 1: life and you think you start listen to the names 808 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: that he's talking about, Like, dude, he's been around the best, 809 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: the best and the brightest and multiple sports. He absolutely hasn't. 810 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: It's so funny, um, DJ, Like the question was great 811 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: that you asked him about what he learned. Um, because 812 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: the Dean Smith thing looms large over Carolina, Like it 813 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: just looms large, just a big deal. Coach Smith was 814 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: legendary coach and a lot of what everybody learned in 815 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: terms of class and how you treat people whatever came 816 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: from the basketball team and Coach Smith, and so they 817 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 1: have but coaches experience in his relationships and the stories 818 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: that he's able to tell because he's been around people. 819 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: And so it was great to hear him talk about 820 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: Bobby Bowden. The next time, we have to have him 821 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: talk about Barry Switzer and what he learned from his 822 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: time in Oklahoma because he had these great stories about 823 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: getting Oklahoma and those things, and so it's always great. 824 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: But I think DJ is fantastic. Here someone who is 825 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: seven years old, who was coaching a young person's game, 826 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: who is still very connected, um, not only to his 827 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: players that are older, but to the younger players and 828 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: to be able to do it. Um. I just think 829 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: he has a wealth of information that I'm glad he 830 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 1: is able to share on our podcast with people so 831 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: they can take away some of those nuggets. Thankful for 832 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: your relationship with him, to be able to uh to 833 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: get him. Pretty much any time we call, he's there. 834 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 1: He's he's always He's always said he would always be there, 835 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: and it's always funny to be able to reach out 836 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: and called. And I think the thing that he talked 837 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: about with Coach Royal and Coach Bowden about the former 838 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: players and how much it means, I think everybody wants that. 839 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: I think it's the same thing that you would say, 840 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: is some of the connect connections that you have with 841 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: your people that are teammates, being able to to coach 842 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: Sattafield and all those other things. Guys that you know, 843 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 1: guys that um, you know we talked about our rider 844 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: does our buddies that mean a lot. And so it's 845 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: it's cool because it's always about relationships, you know, and 846 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: I think that people think about football. Football brings us together. 847 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: It's the tie that binds us together with these relationships. 848 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: I want to as we're getting ready to wrap up here, 849 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: encourage everybody. It is Thursday, which means Thursday Night Football, 850 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: which means Amazon Prime, Scouts Feed is back. So that's Bucky, myself, 851 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: Joy Taylor, We're gonna be back. You can watch us. 852 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: It's real easy. If you have never used twitched before, 853 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: don't get intimidated by it. And you know, if you're 854 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: whatever age you are, I think this is just for teenager. 855 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: It's very simple. All you do is Twitch, dot tv, slash, 856 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: move the sticks. Um, you can watch us as we 857 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: watch the game. If you've seen me in the Manning cast, Um, 858 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: that's what That's what we did last year and it's 859 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: it's back again this year. So you can join us 860 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: and why the game tonight, So we encourage you guys 861 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,919 Speaker 1: to do that. Um. One nugget on this game tonight, Buck, 862 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: I just wanted to hit you with and get your 863 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: thoughts on before we get out of here. Uh. We're 864 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: looking at some of the numbers and the stats for 865 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: this game, the next gen stuff remember when Russell Wilson 866 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: was coming out, we question, okay, the only question is 867 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: with his size at five ten, how would he be 868 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,399 Speaker 1: able to see in the middle of the field and 869 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: and how would be able to navigate that Well, it 870 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,800 Speaker 1: turns out due to you know, deep play action to 871 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: get him distance from the line of scrimmage is what 872 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: he's been in for most of his career. Uh, that's 873 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: helped him in that area. But at the end of 874 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: the day, when you look at the numbers, Buck, he 875 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: throws over the top of the defense and he throws 876 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: to the outside of the defense more so than anybody else. 877 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: Like you look at over the last five years in 878 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 1: deep passing percentage, since he was second in the league, 879 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: second in the league, third in the league, second in 880 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: the league, sixth in the league, fifth in the league. 881 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,280 Speaker 1: And then when you look at outside the numbers, throws 882 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: third in the league, third in the league, second in 883 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,280 Speaker 1: the league, first in the league, second in the league, 884 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: second in the league. Everything he does, he lives outside 885 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 1: the numbers and he lives over the top of the defense. 886 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: So his size never really comes into play because he 887 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: doesn't have to function in all the trash inside and 888 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: that interesting It is interesting, but it's funny that you 889 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 1: brought it up because there's a conversation at the end 890 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,320 Speaker 1: of the year last year when um there's a faction 891 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: of the twelves that were saying, let Russ cook and 892 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,760 Speaker 1: one of the things that Pete Carroll came out and said, 893 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: the one thing that we have to do. At the 894 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: end of the year, because the Seahawks office production fell off, 895 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: a clip team started playing Covered two against the Seahawks, 896 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 1: and so to illustrated, Cover two is too deep. Safety 897 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: is parked about fifteen yards from the line of scrimmage, 898 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: covering each half of the field. You have five underneath 899 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,280 Speaker 1: cover guys. The corners are playing what we call cloud technique, 900 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: where they're funneling all the receivers inside and taking away 901 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: the outside numbers, and then three anterior droppers around the 902 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: hashes and one right in the middle. Well, DJ, when 903 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: you talk about those percentages over the last five years, 904 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: if you're telling me that he loves to live outside 905 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: the numbers and down the field, Cover two takes all 906 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: of that away because the design of the defense is 907 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: to force everything into the middle of the field. Well, 908 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why the Seahawks need to run 909 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 1: the ball is because when you run the football against 910 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,280 Speaker 1: cover two, they're one man short. They need to draw 911 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: a safety down into the box. So now you can 912 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 1: open up the field to allow Russell to do what 913 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: he wants to do, which is throw it down the 914 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: field and to throw it outside of the numbers. So 915 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: a lot of times when people are jumping on Pete 916 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: Carroll for his insistence on running the ball, what he's 917 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: really trying to do is to make the game easy 918 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 1: for the quarterback. And so as we're looking at the 919 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: game tonight, let's see if the Seahawks have enough success 920 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: running the ball where they can open up the field 921 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: to allow rus to throw it where he wants to 922 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: throw it outside the numbers and down the field. There 923 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: you go. I think you you nailed it. Um, that's 924 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: something to keep an eye in the game tonight. So again, 925 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: come hang out with us Twitch dot tv, slash Move 926 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: the six, Twitch dot tv slash Move the six and 927 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 1: come hang out with us. Uh Enjoy Taylor for our 928 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 1: Thursday night scouts feed. Um, that's gonna do it for today, Buck, 929 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 1: anything else you want to add before we get out 930 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: of here, No man, check us out Amazon. It should 931 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. Make sure you keep listening 932 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: to the podcast. Been a lot of fun, a lot 933 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: of nuggets, a lot of insight, a lot of great conversations. Yep. 934 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: And on that broadcast, there's a chat that's open, so 935 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: literally you're watching the game. That's a difference between us 936 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 1: and you know what you get with the Manning cast. 937 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,879 Speaker 1: We are fully interactive, So you tweet us a question, 938 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: there's a third down you don't like to play, call 939 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 1: why they do this? Boom, drop it in the chat, 940 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 1: We answer it and off we go. So it'll be fun. 941 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: It's a fun experience. Um, we got our we got 942 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: our feet wet with it last year, and I think 943 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: were gonna take it to hold new level this year. 944 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: So come hang out with us again, Twitch dot tv, 945 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: slash Move to six. We'll see on Thursday Night football. 946 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: We'll see it back here Monday on Move the six 947 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: for the audio pod again. The TV show you can 948 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: catch us that is three pm Eastern with our buddy 949 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: reett Lewis. That's on NFL Network. You can find us 950 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: each and every Monday. Appreciate you guys. We'll see you 951 00:45:51,200 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: next time right here on Moving Sticks Nott has got 952 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: before to move