1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: I am all in you, I am all in with 2 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: Scott Patterson and I heart Radio podcast everybody. Hey, Scott Patterson, 3 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: I I'm all in podcasts, I heart Radio one to 4 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: Live in Productions. I am joined by Tara, Tara s 5 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: Danielle Romo, Amy Sugarman, and we're here to talk about 6 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: Let the Games begin. Season three, episode eight. It was 7 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: a rip snorting affair. It was filled with Richard and 8 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: Emily and Emily and Richard and Richard and Emily and 9 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: Laurel I and Rory and Rory and Richard and Emily 10 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: and Laurel I. And it was like it was watching 11 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: it was it was like watching Martina Navratalova, Venus Williams 12 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: playing John McEnroe and Evan Lendel. It was the ball, 13 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: the ball, an important person, who who's important? Jess and 14 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: Jeff and and there's Jess, Jess, Yes, there's the Rafael 15 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: Nadal taking the court pound saying Hey, I'm over here, 16 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm pounding the ball. I love it. I did it 17 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: was it for me. It was a very relaxing. Even 18 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: though there was a lot of drama and a lot 19 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: of back and forth, it was it was just really 20 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: comforting relaxing for me to watch this, UM great episode, 21 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: and I think it was Richard at his best because 22 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: he's just so so filled with excitement and energy and 23 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: he's wanting to help and and I really just took 24 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: the ride with him. You know, I really ask you 25 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: that right from the start before we start going through it, 26 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: in order for all of you to say, was Richard 27 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: right or wrong? I think they were both right and 28 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: they were both wrong, and I think that therefore they 29 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: were both right right. A wrong and a right don't 30 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: doesn't make it wrong. It makes it right in my 31 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: mathematical calculation. With interesting. Listen, I've got a chalkboard over 32 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: here if you'd like to know, Um, what's that guy's name? Pythagory, Pythagory, 33 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: Charlie Pythagoram. Yeah, that's him. He lives down the street. Anyway, UM, 34 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't you gotta nobody trusts Laurela. I see her 35 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: point of view. She's pissed she didn't get trusted again. 36 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: She's treated like the red headed stepchild. And it's like Jesus, 37 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: when are you going to see me for who I 38 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: really am? And you are overstepping your bounds and you 39 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: are not collaborating with me. You are not liaising with me. 40 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: What on earth are you thinking about? I mean, it 41 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: even got to the point where where Rory got piste 42 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: at him, and that's big. She was the most right 43 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: because she wanted to She would have done it, but 44 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: she wanted to look right and she wanted to be prepared. 45 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: So if everybody's right and wrong, she's the most right 46 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: saying tell me the truth. So I have the opportunity 47 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: to maximize. Listen, this is a big sleep train. Before 48 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: it gets too far out the station, let's do the synopsis, 49 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: all right, you got it? So this, like Scott said, 50 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: season three, episode eight, let the Games to begin air 51 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: dating November nineteen two, and the synopsis is after the 52 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: breakup with Dean Rory and just heat up the heat up, 53 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: they mean makeout. Richard convinces his family to go on 54 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: day trip to Yale, which ends up being a big 55 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: blowout fight with Loralai and Luke becomes extra protective or 56 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: over Rory because of Jess. That was a great talk. 57 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: A little bit more about this, and then we'll go 58 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: back to the beginning. Yeah, let's do it like a 59 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: chronological thing, because I think this, I think this warrants 60 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: it before we move on quickly Tara and Danielle. Who 61 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: was right? Who was wrong? I understand why Richard wanted 62 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: to do it, like it's his granddaughter and he wants 63 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: the best for her, and I feel like he wanted 64 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: that because he never got it from Laura La. But 65 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: I also think he was wrong that he just didn't 66 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: prepare Rory because she's so organized, she wants to be 67 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: her best, and he didn't give her that chance to 68 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: do it. So I'm a little bit on the fetes, 69 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: but I don't think anyone's completely wrong and anyone's completely right. 70 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: I will say half right, half wrong, but I'm going 71 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: to give him right because his intentions were super pure, 72 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna say he was right. Great, all right, Okay, 73 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: so let's go. Here's the thing I loved about this episode. 74 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: We're really picking up almost immediately where we left off 75 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: from the dance marathon, because did you guys notice are 76 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: taking the sign down and her body hurts and it's 77 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: still Halloween. I thought about you the second episode started 78 00:04:54,920 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: to can't escape the pumpkins, They're just there forever I 79 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: have one criticism, and I rarely have one I'm gonna 80 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. Did anyone think that Lauren Graham was 81 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: playing tired and in pain a little bit drunk? Maybe 82 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: she was? She were they serving alcohol? Wasn't drunk, but 83 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: were they serving alcohol? There? Just coffee? I don't think 84 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: they were serving alcohol. But I just think as she 85 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: was doing her acting like she was loopy, it was 86 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: almost like, you're right, Yeah, you're right, because she did 87 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: a lot of like arm Lay's type things, and you're like, yeah, 88 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: did that when you're tired. I know she's not drunk, 89 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: and I know she's like in pain and doing acting, 90 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: but a little bit I was like, this seems this 91 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: close to how she would play it if they were 92 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: like and Laura la is drunk? Uh? Interesting? Interesting? Yeah? 93 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I thought that whole scene was amazing though, 94 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: when she goes on account of three right room their 95 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: poor feet? Yeah good. So then they get into Luke's 96 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: diner and they say, like, I didn't remember Luke's being 97 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: add is that when Sean came in? Was that Kirk 98 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: came in with a trophy, with the trophy at that point, 99 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: at that point, he's just showing that sucker off. What 100 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: did you think I think he's funny. It was it 101 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: really needed that and it was funny and he's great 102 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: and I think I had a little what did I 103 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: have a little dialogue with him about getting all smash 104 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: it to pieces. It looks so violent sometimes, isn't he 105 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: threatening him? Best vote? And Jesus, I love it because 106 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: it sets it up for when you do it again 107 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: later in the episode. Hi Hi, Hi, by let's go by, 108 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: and then when you come back later in the episode, 109 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: Hi hi Hi. I mean right from the start, this 110 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: is a big Luke episode two. I mean we're seeing 111 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: Luke really evolved, Like he's just so much more prominent 112 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: in the show now than in the season one. Yeah, 113 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean he's he's ranting and raven old Lukie ranting it, 114 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: her ranting it, Jess, He's doing his thing. Yeah, those 115 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: were really fond of those scenes with Milo. You know, 116 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: they were fun to do. They were just really fun 117 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: to do. It had a really nice flow together, you know. Um, yeah, 118 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: I enjoyed those scenes. I know Luke is all like 119 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: he is trying to be very like strict and tough, 120 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: but I think I just based off of like what 121 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: I can tell so far, he's such he loved Rory 122 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: and Jess together and the only one thinking that, Like 123 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: he's always like acknowledges it, he loves them together. Yeah, 124 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: he's like I think he's just so excited because he's 125 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: so excited will make Jess probably like a good guy. 126 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: Like he's like this is like Rory is going to 127 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: help Jess and kind of like, yeah, like I did good. 128 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: You know, Laura La has more surrendered to it, whereas 129 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: Luke is just over the moment jazz because I think 130 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: it gives I think he also probably feels it gives 131 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: him a better shot with Laura La. There's more chances 132 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: for them to connect and to discuss things, and you know, 133 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: it's it's it brings those two closer together as well. 134 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: So I think that's I think he's which is correct. 135 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: It does. They're already bonding more over it, right, and 136 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: they're not fighting over it. That was interesting too, as 137 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: they're having that conversation about Rory and Jess, even though 138 00:08:55,280 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: she's sort of her you see her side now and 139 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: I think she sees yours a bit more than the 140 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: big fight they had over the car, right, But I 141 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: think that the stakes have raised, they have gone up 142 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: considerably because if there's any kind of conflict between Rory 143 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: and Jess, there's going to be conflict. There's going to 144 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: be misunderstanding conflict between Luke and Laurel I. So it's 145 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: a it's a smart writer's move, it's a smart plot 146 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: move here, um. But it does raise the stakes that 147 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: there is. It enhances the risk. It's a it's a 148 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: it's a risk on trade, as they say in Wall Street. 149 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: You know, it's definitely after we sort of get the 150 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: acknowledgement that that Luke and Laurel I know that Jess 151 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,599 Speaker 1: and Rory are together. We go to the Gilmour's for 152 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: a Friday night dinner where we have the walnut catastrophe, 153 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: and Richard and and Rory are in the kitchen, and 154 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: that's where we find out about the Whippan poofs and 155 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: that they're going to go to Yale. So what did 156 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: y'all think there? Did you think that because Richard would 157 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: would Richard have brought that up? Had the walnut incident 158 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: not happened with the salads they would all have been 159 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: sitting at the table, would Richard Richard would have been 160 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: forced to bring that up at the dinner table? So 161 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: how would he have done it? So was that by design? Perhaps? 162 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, and so Richard could get 163 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: her alone in the kitchen? I don't know, is it? 164 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: He's not that he definitely did want to have the 165 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: one on one time with absolutely, Yeah he didn't. He didn't, 166 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: you know he I don't think he would have brought 167 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: that up at the dinner table. So did they create 168 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: a situation where he could be alone with her? I 169 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: don't know. Interesting theory. Does anybody know with Frank Lloyd 170 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: Wright actually had that whole thing happened or was that 171 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: totally made up? With the fire and the getting locked 172 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: in that if it's if it's coming out of laurelized mouth, 173 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: then you can pretty much guarantee that that it didn't happen. 174 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: I love the Ri Fleischer shout out though, Do you 175 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: guys guitar and Danielle remember who he was? M hm? 176 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: So he was the Jen Saki, So you guys know 177 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: Jen Sack. So he was the Jen Sak of that time, 178 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: and he was the press secretary. So it was a 179 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: pretty funny reference. And then I have a couple of questions. 180 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: How beautiful are the flowers at the Gilmore's yeah. I 181 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: mean that's a thousand dollars worth of flowers in that 182 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: house fresh per week. Yeah, there are flower bills a year. 183 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: And they have a giant refrigerator. Is that a like 184 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: their kitchen is amazing? Because that was like the first 185 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: time we've seen them. Her go into the bridge to 186 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: get the soda and he's given her the chocolate. I 187 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: thought the whole thing was quite charming. I think he 188 00:11:53,920 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: was doing and look not to not to give too 189 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: much way, but I think, you know, during the argument 190 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: with Laurela Yale, uh afterwards, a big blow up before 191 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: she walked away, I think he made a very salient 192 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: point about how many thousands of people apply for Harvard 193 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: and and why not have a good plan. B. And 194 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: she's pretty much already accepted because she's a legacy and 195 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: I've set this meeting up and it was impromptu, yes, 196 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: and I know that inconvenices everybody, But for God's sake, 197 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: he pulled a brilliant move. And she's in. She's for 198 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, she's getting accepted to Yale. That's 199 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: a what's wrong with that? Yeah? I feel like they 200 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: all should be a bit more open minded to Yale, 201 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: Like I get that her dream is Harvard, but like 202 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: almost no kid applies to one school. And he did 203 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: make another grade point. And Emily made a great point 204 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: to Laurela when she went and chased her when Laura 205 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: was trying to get the taxi she goes. Did it 206 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: ever occur to you that if Harvard knows that she's 207 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: accepted to Yale, she's more likely to get accepted to Harvard. 208 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: It's like play the chess game here, be strategic, stop 209 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: being so emotional. And it's very obvious, like be happy 210 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: to have Richard's help and get your kid into every 211 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: school and then she can pick. But she but he didn't. 212 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: He was wrong in how he went about it. You know. 213 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: Maybe that's because they've scared him. They made it so impossible. 214 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: And I'm not mad at them, it's rightfully so, but 215 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: they've made it so impossible. Sometimes I feel like Laura 216 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: Lai thinks that it's an attack from Richard. Instead of 217 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: being like, oh, this is his granddaughter and he wants 218 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: to do something good for her. You know, she takes 219 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: him more personally and more of an attack towards her 220 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: when I don't that's not his intention. He's not doing 221 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: this in spite of Laurela. Yeah, yes, that's such a 222 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: good point, Like getting getting a kid into Yale is 223 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: not a punishment exactly. It's not personal against you, Laura La. 224 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: It's not a punishment for you and your kid. It's 225 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: given your daughter a massive future. Should she just seize 226 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: the initiative? Um, But again, it's Richard's accepting who Laurel 227 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: I is. That she's not going to change, that, she's 228 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: not coming into the fold the way they expected when 229 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: these Friday night dinners were proposed to her. She's rebellious, 230 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: she's you know, she's doing her Henny Youngman routine or 231 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: Jackie Mason routine whatever there don Rickles routine. Really, I mean, 232 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: whoever you want to call it. It's not pleasant for 233 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: them to experience it. The sarcasm, the cutting comments that 234 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: just let wash over them. They can't trust her. So yeah, 235 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: there's a lack of trust between all all of them. 236 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: She doesn't trust them. So it's kind of a two 237 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's two way street here, babe. So, and 238 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: the one thing that I didn't really like too much 239 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: was when Rory was like, oh, he's trying to manipulate you, 240 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: and it's like, you know when he's and do you 241 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: guys remember when you when laurelize I said that about Sorry, Yeah, 242 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: when Laura I said that about Rory or to Rory 243 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: about Richard that he's like trying to manipulate her. I'm like, well, 244 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: that's why I don't ask you. He's not manipulating her, 245 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: that's the question. Do you think he is manipulating her? 246 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: And I sort of think he's being fairly straightforward, like 247 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: I want you to see Yale again. Not not a 248 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: huge thing, Scott, what do you think? Like, man, God, 249 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: if we all had grandfather's that caring, you know, God? Lord, Um, yeah, 250 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: I just Laura Lai is not going to change. Richard 251 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: and Emily are not going to change. Nobody's going to 252 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: change in this equation. So they're going to have to 253 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: do things like this to get the result that they 254 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: want to do the best thing for that child. Um, 255 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: they probably know knew it was going to get messy 256 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: at some point. They knew it was going to go 257 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: off the rails. But the deed is done, she's accepted, 258 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: and then as we end the show, we see they're 259 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: both looking at Yale pamphlets. So yes, wow, wow, wow. 260 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: And also, did you guys pick up that lower Lisa 261 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: that she had wanted to go to Yale and she 262 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: was actually yeah, Richard tells the story on the bench 263 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: of her coming in and it's right. So Tara and 264 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: Scott and me poker face Danielle right now at this point, 265 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: where do you think she's going to go? Knowing just 266 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: what you know? Um, knowing what I know, I think 267 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: she's still going to go to Harvard, and I think 268 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: she's still like that's still the number one for her. 269 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: But the pamphlet flipping at the end made me a 270 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: little like, oh, shoot, maybe not, maybe not. It also 271 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: made me think, like that scene where Emily goes, we'll shoot, 272 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: she'll be closer to home. I was thinking, like she said, 273 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: that's a lorealize the lorealized, thinking like maybe my daughter 274 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: will be home. But also she just got back from 275 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: making out with Jess, so she's probably thinking like, oh 276 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: my god, this guy is is going to be close. Wow, 277 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: that's when and that's why it was funny that they 278 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: both looked at the pamphlets that night. Yeah. And then 279 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: and Emily had the most devastating line of that entire scene, 280 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: and By the way, if she goes to Yale, she 281 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: can live at home. It's like, Wow, they all have 282 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: an agenda. They all have an agenda, and I think 283 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: what they're not realizing is they're being so combated with 284 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: one another, where if they all joined forces, let's just 285 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: get this kid every possible option she can have, you 286 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: then evaluate it. You know what. The one thing I 287 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: would like to see coming out of the Gilmore's, because 288 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: I think she deserves it, is I think that they 289 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: should throw Laurel a party. I think that they should 290 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: give her ridiculously expensive gift. I think that they should 291 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: make a gesture right interesting. I think they should sort 292 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: of make up for what when awry. Well, I mean 293 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: they're intelligent people. I mean they're they want what they 294 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: want right as strategic as they are being, Um, why 295 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: not make peace with Laurel. Why not just say, you 296 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: know what, you've done a fantastic job. And if they did, 297 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: if they made a big gesture like that, then they 298 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: could go to her and they say, listen, Richard would 299 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: like to take Rory and everybody up to Yale, you know, 300 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: And these are the reasons why. Because she could live 301 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: at home, because Harvard may not accept her, and it'd 302 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: be easier if she got it. You know, if she 303 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: got accepted, Harvard is easier to get to. I mean, 304 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: if if I see what you're saying, you know what 305 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: I mean, do it that there wouldn't be any conflict 306 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: in it and it would have no reason to be 307 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: in a TV show that's compelling to watch. But it's 308 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: kind of what I want to gesture. She'll do the 309 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: same thing she did. Hear, all of this is manipulative. 310 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: You're the puppet master waste dark time, whereas just gonna 311 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: waste money. They're not seeing the forest for the trees? 312 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: Is that like the right saying. It's like how lore 313 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: La is right that Richard sort of manipulated the situation. 314 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: Oh funny, it's three o'clock and my buddy, you know 315 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: right here. But it ultimately this is just helping the 316 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: kid get into Yale. Let the kid get into Yale, 317 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: then decide where she's going. It's so simple. Yeah, And 318 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: that's the one thing that you know Richard is really 319 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: good at doing. He's not saying she has to go here, 320 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,719 Speaker 1: or like she needs to continue the family legacy, she 321 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: must go here. He's just like, I want her to 322 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: see Yale because you won't show her otherwise. Yeah, she'll 323 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: ever know. Look those gifted kids that you know, they 324 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: get accepted to Yale, Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, Dartmouth, getting you know, 325 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: M I T, Cambridge, Oxford, they get a accepted everywhere, right, 326 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: and they figure it out and then yeah, they have 327 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: the choices. And then one school steps up and says, listen, 328 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: we know you've been accepted by X y Z will 329 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: offer you this. You know, I just don't. Yeah, I 330 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: don't think there's a parent on the planet that would 331 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: be like, don't apply that to this awesome school you 332 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: might get into it. Like that just doesn't exist. Now. 333 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: Parents may say like, oh, hey, we can't afford that, 334 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: or a variety of reasons why a kid wouldn't apply 335 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: to a certain school. But Rory can afford to go 336 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: wherever she wants. Let her apply to everywhere. So the 337 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: fact that Laura Li is holding that back just doesn't 338 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: track for me. She's like she just because Laura life 339 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: feels erased, she feels like and I think she feels 340 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: really I think she blames herself for a lot of this, 341 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: and she just doesn't want to admit it because she's 342 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: so deeply entrenched. Her heels are so dug in over 343 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: the years, and she's pretty much justified. But she doesn't. 344 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: She's just can't let go. She can't let go. She 345 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: feels like there's I think being judged by your parents 346 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: makes a person very angry. So they're always judging her 347 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: and not trusting her and not you know, saying coming 348 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: to her first and asking permission, which is what she's 349 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: she's a mother, she's they always are treating her like 350 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: a kid, yes, and that pisces her off. And I 351 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: don't blame I don't blame her. She's totally justified in 352 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: having that reaction. So it's it's sort of supersedes, you know, 353 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: any of the benefits that could potentially go to Rory. Yeah. 354 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: I like you were right at the beginning when you're like, 355 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: they're all right, they're all wrong. Your math was a 356 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: little weird, but I get what You're right. Don't make 357 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: a wrong and that makes for great drama. Yeah, Yeah, 358 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: that makes for great drama because nobody's right, nobody's wrong. 359 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: There's also a second story in this episode that's amazing. 360 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: So we go back to the diner and This is 361 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: when Kirk's like lost her, lost his true be lost her, 362 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: and you're like, what the she? But Luke was immediately 363 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: weird with Rory. I mean immediately she was weird with him. 364 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: He's weird. I gonna choose for girl. Now everybody's awkward. 365 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: I mean, did you feel the weight when they got 366 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: up into his apartment and they were standing, did you 367 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: feel the weight of, Oh god, what do we do now? 368 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: We we have the thing that we want, now we 369 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: don't know what to say to each other? Smooth? How 370 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: smooth was Jess because he was awkward, but he moves 371 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: towards her. He had a good he had a really 372 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: he had a really good line. You share. I'd really 373 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: like to get you a coke because I don't want 374 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: to stand here like a moron, you know, I want 375 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: something to do. What did y'all think, Danielle, what Scott? 376 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: What did you guys think of that first almost kiss? 377 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: That's not the kiss, but it's the almost. I love 378 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: love of love of love, and then especially with the 379 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: payoff at the end of the episode, but we won't 380 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: get there yet. But yeah, I I love the built 381 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: up anticipation and then, like Luke busting through the door 382 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: and catching them and they couldn't actually kiss, and I 383 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: it was so good. It was the first time you 384 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: see Jess kind of like giddy and shy and like 385 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: nervous around Rory, like he's like, oh, this is my shot, 386 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: so either not mess up this time. So wait, I'll enact. 387 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: I'll act it out. But one of the cutest moments. 388 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: And I've noticed this. Sorry my utant so lam today, 389 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: but uh, I've seen this episode a few times and 390 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: I noticed it every time. Did you guys see when 391 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: jessice on the chair it was justice And I don't 392 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: know if he was directed to do that or if 393 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: he just Milo did it. It's such a cute moment 394 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: as he's sort of trying to like move closer, move 395 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: this along. He's so adorable. And the hands on the chair. Yeah, 396 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: because it made me think several times when those two 397 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: are together, like what do kids do when they're really 398 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: in love with each other? Well, they touch each other, 399 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: they make out. This is what they did. This is 400 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: what is done. This is what everybody does. They want 401 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: to get in a room alone and touch each other. 402 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: That's what they did. That's great. Then what did you 403 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: think of your lucks rules, Lukes rules. Um, I gotta 404 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: say think it's a classic scene. I think it's a 405 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: classic Luke scene where uh and I love the what 406 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: he got some grapes and he popped a couple of 407 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: grapes on his way out, and then he looked back 408 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: and popped another one. And he was very proud of himself, right, 409 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: because he really felt like like no, he he felt 410 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: like he had one and that he was a good 411 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,479 Speaker 1: stepdad or whatever, good uncle. Right. He felt like, wow, 412 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: I did something right. And and I corrected that, you know, 413 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: when they're together and that I so I must have 414 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: done something right because because because Jess is now you know, 415 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: palatable to this very special girl and she even loves him, 416 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: and wow, and and I don't think he's going to 417 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: screw it up because I just you'll be on the chair, 418 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: he's on the chair, you'll be on the tap. It 419 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: was so good. It's like Luke wanting to be a 420 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 1: dad and he got his opportunity and he you know, 421 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: and he I don't know, that was a good thing. 422 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: And it's interesting, like you didn't do that with Shane, 423 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: Like you didn't give him all these rules other than 424 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: the respect. You really wanted him to respect women, which 425 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: I thought was a great moment in that episode. But 426 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: you're coming guns blazing on on this because I think 427 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: probably you don't want him to mess this up. You 428 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: want to take care of Rory. You feel so invested 429 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: and responsible for both. I mean, the sticks are high 430 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: on this one. Just can't screw it up. Yeah, because 431 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: that means that's his relationship with role Laurela too. This 432 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: blows up his relationship with any future with Laura I 433 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: could blow up, you know, but that that bad blood 434 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: created between and those two, that's that's, like I say, 435 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: it's a risk on trade on Wall Street, huge stocks 436 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: in demand. So yeah, stakes are really going up here. 437 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: And uh and I loved you know, I think all 438 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: that tender stuff and that awkward and the almost first 439 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: kiss and then Luke busts in and that's really all 440 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: that scene was is set up for that scene, you know, Luke, 441 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: Luke laying down the law. Yeah, yeah, I think you're 442 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: right like that. It was sort of setting up that moment. 443 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 1: Although the cuteness of them sort of I don't know, 444 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: that dance moving closer and the way he touches her, 445 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: he's so cool. I mean, there's just nothing cooler than either. 446 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just or Milo, but but 447 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: the way he moves. We want to see these people, 448 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: these two characters in their world. They create this bubble 449 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: world of love and want and longing and all that, 450 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: but they exist in the world of rules and adults 451 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: and people that will punish them. There are consequences. So 452 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: the layers were were laid on quite I thought effectively 453 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: and art artfully. So you know, so I apologize because 454 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: I sort of we've we've skipped around a little bit 455 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: in this episode, but I do think I want to 456 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: talk about the scene where they're packing to go on 457 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: the road trip and like how loyalized, like wait, where's 458 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: your stuff? Like you've got to bring this, this, this, 459 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: And then the coffee drinking car. That was a little weird. 460 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: It was funny, but it was like when it's like 461 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: Laurelized the most defiant person in the world, and she's 462 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: sort of like bowing down to this ridiculous demand and 463 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: having fun with it. I don't know, it was a 464 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: little weird for me. It didn't seem like Laurel I 465 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: it was just amusing. It was amusing, but we I 466 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: think we touched on this a little bit, but the 467 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: story we're getting from Richard and Emily. Richard had a 468 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: different girlfriend and he says the funniest thing, like, don't 469 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: tell the girls this, They'll think I was a lithario. 470 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: And then Laura, you stole my father with fashion. But 471 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: ultimately I love hearing about their romance, like he gave 472 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: his men when Emily showed up to the frat party 473 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: in the blue dress, like all those little Oh how 474 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: cute was that? You guys? So when you propose, like 475 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: right in front of what used to be a bench 476 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: and was trash can and they both like lean over 477 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: the trash can and give each other and kids, they're 478 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: very sweet couple, like you really, as much as they bicker, 479 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: they're so in love. I did think it was very 480 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: telling when um, I forget if it was Richard or 481 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: Emily that said this, but when Richard proposed and Emily 482 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: just said fine. So Emily seems tall to me. I 483 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: noticed a couple of things in this episode. Is the heights, 484 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: because elect Sis is tall, but Lauren is so much 485 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: taller than her, And then you realize Richard so ed 486 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: Herman is so tall and then Emily is tall. They're 487 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: all a bunch of tall people. I don't know that. 488 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. If Kelly's very tall, she'd just bring heels. 489 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: I think she's five five. They must put her in 490 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: heels because otherwise she would be so much shorter in 491 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: Herman Well, yeah, he's six five and in heels, she's 492 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: probably five six seven? Right? Did anybody else in this episode? 493 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: And we still have some scenes to great down, But 494 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: for some reason, in this episode, more than any I 495 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: noticed Alexis eyes and Lauren Graham's eyes. They have the 496 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: bluest eyes, and their eyes are the same, Like they 497 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: really are believable mother daughter. Their eyes are so blue 498 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: and exactly the same. Is it like that in person 499 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: with them? Um, alexis definitely piercing blue eyes. Lauren, it's 500 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: more green, They're more blue green. Yeah. Yeah, Like, did 501 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: you ever have scenes with them where you're just like, 502 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: WHOA their eyes? Um? No, no, I'm used. I'm used 503 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: to their eyes. Yeah. Yeah. You can't really allow yourself 504 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: to be distracted in a scene like that. They I mean, 505 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: I thought Laura looked so cool in this episode, her hair, 506 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: her fashion, the bag going across the leather jacket with 507 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: the jeans and the T shirt like she just looked cool. 508 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: This is Paris Hilton. This week on the This is 509 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: Paris podcast, NICKI and I will be joined by Anna Delby. 510 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: You may think you know her from Inventing Anna on Netflix. 511 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: Get to know the real Anna? Is she a con 512 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: artist and a fraudster or risk taking entrepreneur and audacious 513 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: wanted that lover her or hate her? We're all curious 514 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: the real heiress to sit down with the fake heiress 515 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: right now on This is Paris. Listen to This is 516 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: Paris now wherever you listen to podcasts. So do we 517 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: skip now to the gas station they're at gypsies? Obviously 518 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: that was one of my favorite scenes. Um. I think 519 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: in the entire of all the episodes I've watched, that 520 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: set such a mood for me. And the music that 521 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: was playing. I mean, it was a perfect meld of 522 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: music and lighting and scenery and situation between those two. 523 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: That was really that was filming. That was film, that 524 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: wasn't TV anymore. That achieved a higher stature in my 525 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: book because it's just that was like good film. And 526 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: I also have to say, as many times as I've 527 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: seen this I forgot that was going to happen. When 528 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: Jess was like, I'm going to go get my part, 529 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: Like it completely went right over my head. I don't 530 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: know why. Yeah, I like and like lorealized, like you 531 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: know where they are there together right Like that totally 532 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: just went over my head. And I was like, any 533 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: times I've seen this and I remember that was about 534 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: to happen. He fully went over my head. Like when 535 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: he came down, he's like, I gotta get a cart 536 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: for the car, and then you say bring a receipt 537 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: this time, like there that I did not get, Oh 538 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: he's going to the meeting, but layalized like and then 539 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: it's such a kind of a burn on Luke, Like 540 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: here he was thinking he had done such a good job. 541 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: You give me that receipt. It's too late. Just pulled, 542 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: just pulled a dam. Yeah, and they have great chemistry. 543 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: Obviously they did it in real life. So Milo and 544 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: Alexis had great chemistry and did oh my god, Daniel, 545 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: what planet did you? I didn't know you did it 546 00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: know a little while Yeah in the show in as 547 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: they say mind is blown, My mind is blown. I 548 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: did not know that. Yeah, they had chemistry for real 549 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: this timeline at what year they did, and I was 550 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: gonna say, at what point in Gilmore, like were they 551 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: actually together? We have to like do some detective work 552 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: and then we still wouldn't talk. Pretty pretty quick after 553 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: he showed up, they started dating, so she was like, 554 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: still with Dean. Not in real life, dude, No, I 555 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like real life. I'm talking about 556 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 1: a real life. She is blurring real life. I got guitar. 557 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: So she's saying was she dating Milo when Rory was 558 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: still with Dean In the show, I was trying to like, 559 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: daniel is trying to figure it out. Well, so I 560 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: would guess so because they were together for four years 561 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: before splitting in two thousand six, and this was two 562 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: thousand two, so right around right now is when they 563 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: started dating in real life. That's pretty much the onto 564 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: the show. I was going to save the seven years. Also, hello, 565 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: that kiss was freaking real. That's why it was so 566 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: good because you're like, oh that was a kiss. Wow, 567 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: you guys kiss I was today years old. That is 568 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: really through me, And actually it makes it so much 569 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: more exciting that you don't know Danielle, Oh my god, anymore? 570 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: What do you see, you're just on the internet stages, yes, images. 571 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: You know TV shows should require uh they're actors and 572 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: actresses to date. They really should. I mean it would, 573 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: It would create so much more buzz for the show. 574 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: It also just makes it so real. Okay, So question 575 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: for you, what did you make of the fact that 576 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: she's having this amazing kiss with Jess literally like explosion 577 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:12,479 Speaker 1: and she runs off two Dean It it broke Dean, 578 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: broke my heart. I mean, I I was in that 579 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: position that was that was you know, as a kid, 580 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: and it's hard and boy he uh he got run 581 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: over by a Rory truck and she backed up and 582 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: ran over him again and again and again, and he 583 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: was devastated, that poor kid. And I felt really bad 584 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: for him. And it's beautifully acted seen by him. Um, 585 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: and I think to me, I don't know, it almost 586 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: felt like character rehab, like we gotta do something to 587 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: make Rory look a little better, and you know what 588 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: I mean. And so maybe they threw that in like 589 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: this would be a good thing to rehab, rehab her 590 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: character a little bit. I don't know. I mean, we're 591 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: not mad at her, but I see what you're saying, 592 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: Like as the audience were not upset. But but you're right, 593 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: it did. It did sort of clean it up a 594 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: little bit. You're like, oh, that was really sweet. Yeah, 595 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm definitely happy she did it for Dean because I 596 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: feel like Dean at this point feels so duped, you know, like, 597 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm such a fool, I'm such an idiot, 598 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: and she is basically telling him no, no, no, it 599 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: was real. It was real. Let me ask you, let 600 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: me ask you this. Do you know how that scene 601 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: made me feel? It made me feel a little angry 602 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 1: at her because it felt like such a tease because 603 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: when he opened the window and she started talking, you 604 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: know what, she's because okay, let me ask you this. 605 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: Let me ask you gals this. Um. What do you 606 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: think Dean if she went to the window and he 607 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: opened the window and she had said, I'm sorry, I 608 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: want to come back, I want us to be a 609 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: couple again, do you think, ay, that's even feasible for 610 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 1: a person to do that and be Do you think 611 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: Dean would have said yes. I don't think he would 612 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 1: think it would have said no, because he just knows 613 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: that Jess is still there, Like he's not going anywhere. Okay, 614 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: so that's where I think the stronger scene would have 615 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: come from. I think you're right. I think that see 616 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: that's the that's the move if she was really I 617 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: want to be careful how I say this, and a 618 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: lot of people say, look, you're you're putting Rory on 619 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: a pedestal. And she's not the perfect person. She's got 620 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,959 Speaker 1: a lot of flaws. What if she were was so 621 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 1: smart that she went back to Dean and she said 622 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: I want to come back, knowing full well that he 623 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: would say no, and it would close. It would be 624 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: good for him, so he could think, I don't think Rory. 625 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't also think she's she's one to play the 626 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: Game's not day, it's not. It's been kind to Dean 627 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: to give him because she's Look, if she's stronger and 628 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: she's wiser, Um, you know, why not let him in 629 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: a real life I would have liked to have seen it. Okay, 630 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: so this doesn't make a great TV show, So I 631 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: admit that her write him a letter or an email 632 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: like that to me would be like the move where 633 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 1: you're like, I just wanted to send you this note, 634 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: you know, teared up? Delete it? What are you're gonna do. 635 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, but I think for the sake of 636 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: this TV show, she needed to go over there and 637 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: say it. I also think she realizes, like, Okay, things 638 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 1: are moving forward with Jess, this is happening, but if 639 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: this is now going to be in Dean's face, I 640 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 1: do need to go tell him. But I think I 641 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: thought that that was really cruel that she did that. 642 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: But think of how they ended in a fight on 643 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: the dance floor at the dance marathon and they're not 644 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: going to see so she comes back on his roof. 645 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,240 Speaker 1: He hates her, but he's caees her, so he's got hope. 646 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: Now he's excited again, even though he's not showing it 647 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: inside irritated. I understand it, but he's still It's like here, 648 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: there's the love of his life, right and she's on 649 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: the roof, and he's in a power position, and he's 650 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: just gonna play his part until she says the right thing. 651 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: She could have convinced him to come back. And and 652 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: think the reason I say it's a little cruel. It 653 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: was kind of self serving just for Rory. This had 654 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: nothing to do to help Dean out. It just drove right. 655 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 1: It was to clear her conscience, and it just drove 656 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: the knife in deeper to Dean because she actually gave 657 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: him a little hope in the beginning of the scene 658 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: by saying, I just wanted to come by and say that. 659 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,720 Speaker 1: And you didn't know what she was gonna say, right 660 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: she said, I just want you to know that. What 661 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: does she say? I loved you in the past and 662 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 1: now that we're not to get I mean, it was 663 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: like Jesus, you're kicking the guy in then you know, 664 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: once again, he's already down, he's trying to move on. 665 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: Now you come by to tease him. And I just 666 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: thought it was a tease, and it was asking Dean 667 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: to have a stiff upper lip yet again in the 668 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: face of a huge loss in his life. And there 669 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: she is in the flesh, sort of like being a 670 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: little ambiguous in the beginning and then saying, well, I'm 671 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: here to say that I'm really sorry, and I know 672 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 1: you loved me and I loved you too, but we're 673 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: really over, Okay, I've moved on. I mean, it's like 674 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: just it's like Jesus. But I definitely see it in 675 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: like the girl's point of view, because Rory also wants 676 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 1: like at the end when she's like, I hope we 677 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: can be friends, Like she just wants everything to be 678 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: like start over, hope they can be friends again. He 679 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: was so great to her and her mom and like 680 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: everything in her life. But I think she also like 681 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: she wants that piece because I think she knows Jesse. 682 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: Is it any different than what Richard did. It's essentially 683 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: the same thing. She's sort of manipulating or she's trying 684 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: to do for her future. Had good intentions, she wants 685 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: to say sorry. The way they ended was so screwy. 686 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: She's she has good intentions with it. But I see 687 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: what you're saying, so that it was so painful to Dean. 688 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: Sometimes you really have to put yourself in the other person. 689 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 1: How does that help him? I feel like it did 690 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: help him. I don't know, That's just my opinion because, 691 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: like like I was saying, a little, you know, a 692 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: little bit ago, I think he feels really stupid, like 693 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: very stupid, like he was played, which in all honesty, 694 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: he was, but I think it was it was a 695 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: time for him to hear like, yeah, you know, I 696 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,919 Speaker 1: was played. But also she did have feelings for me, 697 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: and I can at least know that I wasn't completely 698 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: dumb in this relationship, you know, like, I think it 699 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 1: gives him a little bit of okay, you know it 700 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: was us, but then somebody else came in. You're not 701 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: completely stu up a Dean. You It sounds bad you 702 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: got hosed Royally. I just felt I'm the most fabulous 703 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: girl that you will ever meet. But hey, good news, Pal, 704 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,320 Speaker 1: I loved you once by. I feel like he deserved 705 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: thanks for coming by, Rory, don't let that tree hit 706 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 1: you on the question. For you, this is fun to 707 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: do with you. Do you think, knowing what you know, 708 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: that we'll ever see Dean and Rory together again. I 709 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: feel like he'll come back at some point, whether they're 710 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:49,919 Speaker 1: together or not, I don't know, but yeah, yes, he'll 711 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: come back. I think if he's if he if he's 712 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: this much of a glutton for punishment, he'll come back. 713 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: He's got a taste for it now, Scott, I don't 714 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: to say what's going to happen, But no truer words 715 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: have ever got, No oh Man favorite lines. I think 716 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: I did fashion. I mean I thought I just thought, 717 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: hats off to loora lie. Her look was so good. Yeah, 718 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: she looked. She looked really good in this She's looking 719 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: good in this season, isn't she? Yes, yes, yes, she 720 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: looks really beautiful like everything. Favorite lines. I think this 721 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,720 Speaker 1: was when they were talking about going to the the 722 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: taco place, crisp and meaty, and then Rory goes dirty 723 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: like mine's Loura lie to Luke when Luke realizes that 724 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: Justin Rory are meeting up together, and Loria le goes, 725 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,919 Speaker 1: if you'd like, I'd let you sniff rory sweater. Maybe 726 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 1: the cent will help you track them down out. Oh 727 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: my god, that was brilliant. Yeah, that was brilliant. That 728 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: scene was brilliant. And she said that and then look 729 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: they cut back to look and he's looking at her. 730 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: He goes, he goes, what do you find amusing? He 731 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: considering did you see the look on his face like 732 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: he just smelled a sour lemon? Like, what do you 733 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: find amusing? Amazing? Sometimes, Oh god, who's that guy that 734 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: played Look he's pretty good. He was pretty good. We 735 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: gotta get him on the show. Favorite line, Um, this 736 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: is about the broken button. Emily says, I have a 737 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: stare to go to tonight. What am I going to do? 738 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: And lorel I says, drink a lot. It's easier to 739 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 1: explain than not wearing a skirt if you're falling that 740 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: he can't seen in the back. From there, we didn't 741 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: talk about it. Very cute. The whole thing was that whole, 742 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: from start to finish, from when they got to Yale 743 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,360 Speaker 1: all through up until they got to the Dean's office 744 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: or whatever. Where did they film that good question. I 745 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 1: feel like we are missing a very obvious good line 746 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 1: from Rory and Dean to I don't know what you're 747 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah, it's the very end when Rory goes, 748 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 1: I hope some day you won't hate me anymore, and 749 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: Dan goes, I hope so too. Oh yeah, and again again. 750 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,280 Speaker 1: I know I point this out every week. The whatever 751 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: the word is, we need to get the word. The 752 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: scene that's the christn though, is the kiss. And then 753 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,879 Speaker 1: they always give us more. It's like it's really now 754 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: I've realized, like a Gilmore thing, because you would think 755 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: kiss kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, reread it's roll, but no, 756 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: they always give you a little more and it almost 757 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: is a down something, but it's the most important. Just 758 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: when you think and I think, that's not all folks. 759 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: But I think it's interesting to to show Rory in 760 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 1: this light because look at what she's capable of doing 761 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: to a boy's heart. Okay, look how desirable she is 762 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: and how special she is, but look what she's capable of. Right, 763 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: So this so it's like Luke may be happy now, 764 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: but Jess could get rorried. I mean you know that 765 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,399 Speaker 1: old line, you know you've been gilmourd. Right, Well, Dean 766 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 1: got rorried, and I wonder if Jess is going to 767 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: get rorried. Is Jess gonna get Rory? I I don't know. 768 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: We'll see. But he's vulnerable now, he's vulnerable, he's weakening. Right, 769 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 1: It was good episode. Next week is a lot of 770 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: people's favorite episode, really, the deep Fried Korean Thanksgiving Times. 771 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,479 Speaker 1: All of my nieces have seen Gilmore Girls so many 772 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 1: times and this is one of their favorite. Really. Really, 773 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: we watched this this Thanksgiving. We watch it on Thanksgiving? 774 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: Who we who? We the Sugarman family, sugar they all 775 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: get together and watch this. Really, this episode, this is 776 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: considered one of the great episodes of the whole It's 777 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: a favorite, really, And good news for Danielle Halloween is 778 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: overs are always gone. Um, well, I guess that episode, 779 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving episode got romode. There you go, then, thank 780 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: you for I've never felt more honored rode to remove 781 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 1: it and in the Webster's definitions, to remove pumpkins from 782 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 1: your premises to god. So good, alright, everybody that's gonna 783 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 1: do it. Great episode, really just I really relaxed into 784 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 1: this episode. Is a very comforting, relaxing episode to see 785 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 1: that family so bonded yet so dysfunctional, and boys getting 786 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: their hearts tramped on. And it was also such an 787 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 1: important episode I think, like moving forward. Care to elaborate, No, 788 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: we don't have time. That's it. That's it. We got 789 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: no more time. We're out. We're out, all right, everybody. 790 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: Thanks best fans on the planet. Keep download, keep sending 791 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: the comments. You're shaping this show. We love the shape 792 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 1: of the show is taking and uh, it's due to 793 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: your diligence. So thanks everybody for that, and we'll see 794 00:48:44,000 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: you next time. Stay safe everyone, Hey, everybody, and don't 795 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: forget Follow us on Instagram at I Am all In 796 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: podcast and email us at Gilmore at I heart radio 797 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: dot com. Oh you gil More fans. If you're looking 798 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 1: for the best cup of coffee in the world. 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