Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, It's Tuesday, December second, twenty twenty four. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Show. We've actually started our
Speaker 1: Christmas shopping. Me and your man named g Mark is
Speaker 1: grand joyed by Michael Florio and Laclon Jones.
Speaker 2: Am I speaking out of turn?
Speaker 1: Have you guys actually gotten ahead of things and started
Speaker 1: with your holiday shopping right now?
Speaker 2: About?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: No, my birthday first. My birthday comes first, So I
Speaker 4: don't do any shopping until after the fourteenth.
Speaker 1: You got kids, man, Yeah, you put yourself under the gun.
Speaker 2: Man, If you're like waiting that long, that's that's kind
Speaker 2: of wild.
Speaker 4: Well I'm not ordering thing online. I'm going to the store.
Speaker 3: You know you're gonna go to get a turbo man,
Speaker 3: and it's gonna be sold out.
Speaker 2: Oh man, oh my god.
Speaker 3: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: All right, well there you go. So we will we'll
Speaker 1: monitor along with the John new Smith update. We'll have
Speaker 1: the LaQuan holiday shopping update too.
Speaker 2: Now, So.
Speaker 3: Nothing until after the fourteenth.
Speaker 4: Man' there you go, keep going buying everything and nobody's
Speaker 4: getting me anything from my birthday, Like, I gotta I
Speaker 4: gotta make sure I'm good first.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: All right, family, take care of me.
Speaker 2: Man, Hey man, if you don't love yourself, who the
Speaker 2: hell will? Right?
Speaker 1: I understand that we got some things that died into
Speaker 1: We're gonna do some fantasy vaux pause, basically the guys
Speaker 1: who likely killed your playoff hopes. I know there's still
Speaker 1: one more week in the regular season, but I know
Speaker 1: for a lot of folks this might have been a
Speaker 1: due or die week, especially with six teams on a bye.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about the guys who you know officially
Speaker 1: laid your fantasy teams to rest in week thirteen. Have
Speaker 1: some waiver wire deep dives guys are putting on the
Speaker 1: waiver wire. But first let's start with some big questions
Speaker 1: for week fourteen and beyond the first one.
Speaker 2: I am loath you guys know this.
Speaker 1: I am loath to talk about the Jets on this show,
Speaker 1: because I mean, it's just we've all had enough of them.
Speaker 1: But this sort of feels pertinent. Floya, what do we
Speaker 1: do with Breasee Hall Because it hasn't been terrible, but
Speaker 1: it hasn't been great and it just seems like there's
Speaker 1: no rhyme or reason to win.
Speaker 2: We have a good Breezehull game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you look at his recent game logs, and
Speaker 3: I know in like nine point nine, ten point five,
Speaker 3: twelve point three, thirty one point one and then six like,
Speaker 3: but prior to that, he had a lot of like
Speaker 3: big twenty plus point games. He is still in RB
Speaker 3: one on this season, but when you click his name,
Speaker 3: like on NFL dot Com, you'll see right here, like
Speaker 3: forced mistackles at the lowest rate in the NFL right now.
Speaker 3: He's not the best at converting goal line touches into touchdowns.
Speaker 3: He is very big play reliant, And I was thinking
Speaker 3: about this last night, like we have definitely overrated Breeze
Speaker 3: Hall because of his big play capability, but he should
Speaker 3: not be a top like three running back, top five
Speaker 3: running back off the board next year, but still will
Speaker 3: probably be in that RB one discussion. But for this
Speaker 3: season moving forward, like I think he just started him.
Speaker 3: There's too much volume, the upside is too high, and
Speaker 3: the schedule opens up like the Dolphins, then he gets
Speaker 3: the Jaguars Rams and then the Bills, a team that
Speaker 3: really struggles against running backs. So I think you just
Speaker 3: ride it out with him until the wheels fall off
Speaker 3: this year and then maybe don't don't pay as a
Speaker 3: high a price for him again next season.
Speaker 2: The kuhy is it bad that I don't I don't
Speaker 2: want a first round pick next year. I don't want
Speaker 2: to draft in the first round. I get it.
Speaker 1: I mean i'mless I can get Saquon, Like Saquan feels
Speaker 1: like the only player that I absolutely want in the
Speaker 1: first round. I guess Dereck Henry, but later in the
Speaker 1: first round. Other than that, like you know, I mean
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, he was hurt pretty much all year, Breeze
Speaker 1: Hall has been underwhelming. B Jon Robinson has kind of
Speaker 1: been nah so far this year. Like I just, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just can I just forfeit my first round pick
Speaker 1: next year and I come back in the second round.
Speaker 4: I would forfeit the first round pick on a running back.
Speaker 4: Like I think my years of like drafting and running
Speaker 4: back in the first round are over, because like when
Speaker 4: I look at some of my running backs, it's like,
Speaker 4: like you said, Bijon, he hasn't been the guy I
Speaker 4: thought he was the one on one and he's not.
Speaker 3: Looking like the one on one.
Speaker 4: And like I got Jamier Gibbs and the early second round,
Speaker 4: and it's like I'd rather go for players like that, like,
Speaker 4: you know, in the second and third round where I
Speaker 4: can really cash in on my running backs. So we
Speaker 4: talk about Saquon he was the second round pick, Derrick
Speaker 4: Henry back into the second round, and then the rest
Speaker 4: of the running backs bat down there. It's like, I
Speaker 4: just feel more comfortable. Look at Joe Mixon.
Speaker 2: Where was he going?
Speaker 4: Like it definitely wasn't the first two rounds. So it's
Speaker 4: like it's one of those things where like the first
Speaker 4: three rounds for now on, I'm gonna probably focus on
Speaker 4: like the pass catchers, like the wide receivers are tight ends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did this.
Speaker 3: Year, and I hate most of my teams.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean I feel like, you know, the only
Speaker 1: real thing is just pick good players.
Speaker 2: Like, just pick good players.
Speaker 1: And that was my problem is that I didn't pick
Speaker 1: good players or I picked players that were unhealthy.
Speaker 3: All the aging running backs that change teams that history
Speaker 3: tells us you shouldn't be drafting these running backs when
Speaker 3: they're this age and old and changed teams. They're all
Speaker 3: absolutely dominating this year. Like this has been one of
Speaker 3: the weirdest fantasy seasons I can remember.
Speaker 2: I hate history zero zero. It has made zero sense
Speaker 2: this year. I can't figure it out.
Speaker 1: Next big question, uh, lak On, I will start with
Speaker 1: you on this one. Are we officially done with CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud after he gave us fourteen points against the Jaguars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we could chalk it of. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 4: I hate focusing on the main problem, which is the
Speaker 4: old line. But now CG. Stroud has a Fantasy assay,
Speaker 4: it's kind of just mellow down. Like yesterday's show, I
Speaker 4: mentioned that, you know, Bryce Young is averaging more Fantasy
Speaker 4: points per game since Week seven than c J.
Speaker 3: Stroud.
Speaker 4: It's like, how how is that possible?
Speaker 3: How is this impossible?
Speaker 4: When you have Nico Collins back, you have Tank Dell
Speaker 4: and it's like one of those things where you're like,
Speaker 4: maybe it's just, you know, the Texans offense. Maybe it's
Speaker 4: a new identity. You have Joe Mixon in that and
Speaker 4: that backfield that's taken on some of that you know
Speaker 4: work and progression of that offense to get downfield.
Speaker 2: And c J.
Speaker 4: Stroud's not making the magic he made and you know
Speaker 4: in his rookie year. So I'm kind of off the CJ.
Speaker 4: Strout bus for the rest of the you know, time
Speaker 4: into the playoffs to where like, if I have other options,
Speaker 4: I will pivot. If there's rushing upside with another quarterback,
Speaker 4: I will pivot. And I will take this moment to
Speaker 4: have the egg on my face and admit that I
Speaker 4: was wrong.
Speaker 2: I have c. J.
Speaker 4: Stroud's a top five fantasy quarterback that looks absurd right now.
Speaker 4: And you know he's just been completely underwhelming even with
Speaker 4: the weapons that he has.
Speaker 1: I mean, Floria, I look at it as they have
Speaker 1: to buy this week they come back. They've got Miami,
Speaker 1: who's been really to on quarterbacks this year.
Speaker 2: They've got the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: We know how good that defense has been for long
Speaker 1: stretches of the year. Although you look at their fantasy numbers,
Speaker 1: they actually have, you know, pretty favorable numbers for quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: But I don't know that we really trust that.
Speaker 1: But Week seventeen, Championship week, they've got the Ravens. There's
Speaker 1: a good chance they will be battling, if not for
Speaker 1: the division, certainly for playoff seating in the AFC.
Speaker 2: Like, is it going to be a struggle.
Speaker 1: Is it going to be like you having to you know,
Speaker 1: fight yourself to not put him in a lineup, or
Speaker 1: at least to not advocate for him as a start
Speaker 1: sit in week seventeen.
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think after yesterday, I'm done
Speaker 3: with CJ. Stroud. He was only under pressure on five
Speaker 3: of his pass attempts yesterday, and he in the matchup
Speaker 3: that not only has he dominated the Jaguars every time
Speaker 3: he has played them, but the Jags were allowing the
Speaker 3: most fantasy points to quarterbacks. I mean, this was and
Speaker 3: it's not like, Okay, this was a game where the
Speaker 3: Texans just ran all over them, like this was a
Speaker 3: closed game until the fourth quarter, and he just went
Speaker 3: out and didn't give you even give you fifteen fantasy
Speaker 3: points and since Week seven just eleven fantasy points per game.
Speaker 3: I would argue that I think he is better on belongs,
Speaker 3: more on waiver wires right now than he does in
Speaker 3: starting lineups and championship game on the line, especially if
Speaker 3: like we don't if he doesn't perform well in the
Speaker 3: next two games, There's no way I could win my
Speaker 3: championship on the line. Throw this guy in, even in
Speaker 3: what is a favorable matchup, because the Ravens actually can
Speaker 3: get pressure and could get after the quarterback, unlike the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think He's going to be a really interesting
Speaker 1: case study in the offseason as we sort of compare
Speaker 1: year one to year two figure out kind of what
Speaker 1: went wrong and what needs to happen and whether or
Speaker 1: not we can sort of buy back in. I guess
Speaker 1: the upside is the asking price in a draft is
Speaker 1: going to be a lot less for CJ. Stroud next
Speaker 1: year compared to what it was this year. Laquans were
Speaker 1: to talk about this on Monday Show. So I'll ask you, Florio,
Speaker 1: are you buying in now on Bryce Young? After certainly
Speaker 1: that's what we saw from him on Sunday, but even
Speaker 1: going back the last few few weeks, are we starting
Speaker 1: to maybe buy in? And I'm not sitting here telling
Speaker 1: you you're gonna, you know, start him over, Like, hey man,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is a tough matchup start Bryce Young, But
Speaker 1: like in terms of you know, maybe fringe QB one
Speaker 1: type territory, are we starting to buy in here?
Speaker 3: I'm starting to I've bought in from a real life
Speaker 3: standpoint for fantasy. I think it's much more matchup dependent
Speaker 3: because like yesterday was awesome, but it's also his first
Speaker 3: real big Fantasy game of this season, and like next week,
Speaker 3: he gets the Eagles, I will tell you right now,
Speaker 3: I don't want to play him against that secondary. But
Speaker 3: like he looks the part, he's passed the eye test.
Speaker 3: He did enough to win that game twice yesterday, and
Speaker 3: if the I really wanted that for him, because if
Speaker 3: the Panthers would have held on, it would have been
Speaker 3: three of the four games that he has started they
Speaker 3: have won, and the one loss would have been taking
Speaker 3: the defending two ton champions to the brink. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I think there's reason to get excited for Bryce Young
Speaker 3: in real life and in fantasy. But for fantasy he
Speaker 3: is still very much matchup dependent.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think that's fair. I think what
Speaker 2: would have been interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw this, but I've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of people suggesting somewhat in jest, but
Speaker 1: somewhat not. Hey man, you're twenty twenty four NFC South
Speaker 1: champion Carolina Panthers. I mean, if they had won that game,
Speaker 1: they would have been four and eight. You know, you
Speaker 1: have the Falcons at six and six, had you would
Speaker 1: have had the Bucks at that point at what five
Speaker 1: and seven?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, mathematically, I mean I think mathematically it's still possible.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be very tough now. But people, I saw
Speaker 1: that and I'm like, what are you talking about? And
Speaker 1: I went and look at him like, oh no, this
Speaker 1: is like really possible at this point.
Speaker 3: Question for you guys, I know we're getting week a
Speaker 3: full month ahead, but week seventeen, CJ. Stroud at Baltimore,
Speaker 3: Bryce Young at Tampa Bay, which one do you feel
Speaker 3: better about? Yeah, we have reached that point.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean remember remember before the draft, right, everybody
Speaker 1: was litigating Bryce Young versus c J.
Speaker 2: Stroud.
Speaker 1: And then after last year it was like the it
Speaker 1: was almost like case closed all over, c J.
Speaker 2: Stroud, wash your hands of it.
Speaker 1: Now here we are, you know, a year later and
Speaker 1: it's the you know, the the case has been reopened
Speaker 1: again and we're having this conversation all over again between
Speaker 1: these two guys.
Speaker 3: You cales breathe.
Speaker 1: If you're a Caleb fan, it is not it is
Speaker 1: far from over. Like, hey man, it hasn't even been
Speaker 1: a full season. There's been turmoil in Chicago. Like if
Speaker 1: you're a Bears fan, he did, I mean, minus the
Speaker 1: whole thing at the end with sort of letting the
Speaker 1: clock run out or whatever.
Speaker 2: But you can change that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can also put that as much on the
Speaker 1: head coach too, for like, hey man, you got to
Speaker 1: time out, like maybe use it.
Speaker 2: You know. So there was a lot of fired Yes,
Speaker 2: sure there was.
Speaker 1: Basically there was a lot of blame to go around
Speaker 1: in what happened at the end of that game on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: Caleb gets some of it, Matt Eberflus gets a lot
Speaker 1: of it, and that's why one of them is at
Speaker 1: the moment unemployed.
Speaker 2: So there.
Speaker 5: Speaking of us, speaking of faux pas, Uh, you're still
Speaker 5: you would think called fantasy faux pas every week where
Speaker 5: they you know, you talked about the guys that you
Speaker 5: started that really hurt you, that maybe you shouldn't have,
Speaker 5: maybe you overthought it, maybe it seemed like a great
Speaker 5: matchup and it just didn't work out.
Speaker 1: Uh, it felt like a good time to bring this
Speaker 1: back in week thirteen where a lot of teams are
Speaker 1: fighting for playoff spots in the fantasy realm, and so
Speaker 1: guys that might have, you know, sort of killed your
Speaker 1: chances or at least severely hurt your chances to make
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Lakwan, who was your big fantasy faux pas
Speaker 1: or at least one that could have been a big
Speaker 1: fantasy folk.
Speaker 2: Paul for a lot of people this week, A.
Speaker 4: Lot of people that were on that fence of like
Speaker 4: making the playoffs or like even trying to keep their
Speaker 4: team alive. You know, they went out there and the
Speaker 4: waiver wire guy to Gus Edwards. They got a Hassens,
Speaker 4: they got Kamani Videll, but this Chargers backfield man, they
Speaker 4: have not shown, you know, be able to be efficient,
Speaker 4: to be able to step up after JK. Dobbins, and
Speaker 4: they kind of failed a lot of fantasy folks out there.
Speaker 4: I mean, Gus Edwards only had six carries, So it's
Speaker 4: like one of those things that they just avoided the
Speaker 4: run game completely without JK. Dobbins and they went into
Speaker 4: a more pass heavy thing. So I feel for those,
Speaker 4: you know, rosters out there. I was one of them
Speaker 4: to go out there to try to keep my team alive.
Speaker 4: But the Chargers backfield without JK. Dobbins cannot be dependent on,
Speaker 4: you know, for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had Gus Edwards in the Sleepers column last week,
Speaker 1: and you know, like I looked at it and I
Speaker 1: sort of knew it was gonna be a tough case
Speaker 1: to make he has not been very productive when he's
Speaker 1: got his opportunities, has not been very explosive.
Speaker 2: But I sort of hope that volume would kind of
Speaker 2: win the day.
Speaker 1: But to your point, I think the Chargers looked around
Speaker 1: and realized that we're not gonna be able to run
Speaker 1: the ball really without Dobbins. They tried to go with
Speaker 1: a pass heavy attack that actually didn't even work either
Speaker 1: because Justin Herbert only had one hundred and forty seven
Speaker 1: yards that that didn't work either. So but if you
Speaker 1: did try to rely on because Edwards, you were really hurt.
Speaker 1: And look, Kamani Vidal ended up with four carries. He
Speaker 1: had more carries than Hassan Haskins, so I guess he
Speaker 1: really is the next man up. But again four carries
Speaker 1: for yeah, I mean, it's just maybe it was just
Speaker 1: that could be. I mean, it's just kind of a
Speaker 1: mess back there in that backfield, which is not great
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2: Who was your fantasy faux Paul.
Speaker 3: Florio Kenneth Walker, who I have on a lot of
Speaker 3: fantasy teams. I was really excited about this year, and
Speaker 3: early on it looked like it was starting to come
Speaker 3: to fruition. They were giving the ball a bunch, they
Speaker 3: were letting him be heavily involved in the passing game.
Speaker 3: He was breaking out long runs, He got hurt, he
Speaker 3: came back, and all of that has just disappeared. Like yesterday,
Speaker 3: sixteen carries, three targets. Zach Charboney had twelve carried. I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: four carries, three targets. But he got a touchdown, he
Speaker 3: got the goal line work. Kenneth Walker got stuffed near
Speaker 3: the goal line, and then they were like, all right,
Speaker 3: we're never giving you another touch near there again. They're
Speaker 3: all going to Zach Sharbonay and Seahawks had this one
Speaker 3: drive where they four or five different times got stuff
Speaker 3: on the one yard line and just got shut out.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know what I was watching on that sequence,
Speaker 3: but yeah, since week eight, eleven Fantasy points per game
Speaker 3: for Kenneth Walker. Like, no, he's getting hit behind the
Speaker 3: line constantly, no big plays. It's but he's good. He's
Speaker 3: too good to sit. He's one of those anchors that
Speaker 3: we talk about where like, at least on my teams,
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna sit him, and he's just dragging me
Speaker 3: down right now. So it's not fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's just been frustrating to kind of
Speaker 1: watch him as part of this offense, just not getting
Speaker 1: the opportunity, not really doing much of it, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you get Zack Charmona who scores
Speaker 1: what into being the game winning touchdown for the Seahawks.
Speaker 2: Incredibly frustrated.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know who else is probably frustrated. It's our
Speaker 4: friend of the show, Mantai, because every single time in
Speaker 4: football he pounds the table, like, get Kenneth Walker involved,
Speaker 4: keep the touches consistent, and that hasn't been the case
Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks. His touches are up and down,
Speaker 4: like there will be one game he has twenty touches
Speaker 4: and then another game he has like fifteen, Like let's
Speaker 4: keep it in that ballpark of where, like he's going
Speaker 4: to be involved in. Zach Charbonay has just been a thorn.
Speaker 4: So shout out to Mantai. I know you're stressed out.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, we haven't talked to Manta in a while.
Speaker 2: We should get an update on how his.
Speaker 1: Teams are doing, because you know, yeah, we know he
Speaker 1: loves this thing like the rest of us do.
Speaker 2: So I would love to get an update on him.
Speaker 1: Minus Chuba Hubbard, right, and and Cuba has been great
Speaker 1: all year long. I mean the fact that here we are,
Speaker 1: you know, heading into the final week of the Fantasy
Speaker 1: regular season, and he is among the league leaders in
Speaker 1: rushing yards, well on track to get well over a
Speaker 1: thousand yards at this point, had a great matchup against
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay defense, and just kind of fell flat
Speaker 1: this past week. I mean, you look around forty three
Speaker 1: rushing yards lost, the fumble got you fewer than three
Speaker 1: Fantasy points. I'm still really not worried about Jonathan Brooks.
Speaker 2: I know, he got on the field and he got
Speaker 2: some touches, he got some.
Speaker 1: Carries, but not a point where you really think that
Speaker 1: Brooks is ready to sort of take things over.
Speaker 2: This is still Chuba Hubber's backfield.
Speaker 1: But you know, as a guy that you were kind
Speaker 1: of being able to lean on as a nice RB two,
Speaker 1: maybe even a fringe RB one depending on the week.
Speaker 1: I'm this this one hurt, you know, to get again
Speaker 1: two point three points out of Cheba Hubbard in a
Speaker 1: big situation where you probably needed to win to get
Speaker 1: to the playoffs.
Speaker 2: This is one that probably gonna, you know, leave you
Speaker 2: a little bit steamed.
Speaker 1: You know, and so we'll see if he's gonna be
Speaker 1: able to bounce back going forward. But just one of
Speaker 1: those things, A bad a bad performs at maybe the
Speaker 1: worst possible time. And now throwing the fact that he's
Speaker 1: got the Eagles coming up, just just not a really
Speaker 1: good situation for anybody with Juba Hubbard on their roster
Speaker 1: that they were before this. Yeah, you know what I
Speaker 1: forgot about this? I forgot about that. You really might
Speaker 1: be correct. That might have something to do with it.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, man, anybody who knows if Drake shows
Speaker 1: up at your game wearing your team's colors, it's probably
Speaker 1: gonna be a bad situation. So let that be a lesson.
Speaker 1: Let that be a lesson.
Speaker 2: Uh, I gonna take a quick break.
Speaker 1: Come back, We're gonna talk some waiver wire deep dives
Speaker 1: and some guys were putting on the waiver wire.
Speaker 2: That's next on the NFL Fantasy Football Show. Time to
Speaker 2: dive deep on the waiver wire.
Speaker 1: Lakwan, Who's somebody that we should be checking for that
Speaker 1: maybe is off the beaten path a little bit?
Speaker 2: Can I can?
Speaker 3: I take this victory lap real quick?
Speaker 4: Last week I said my biggest hot take is that
Speaker 4: Blake Krn will have a breakout game, and here we
Speaker 4: are with his highest snap share and he had his
Speaker 4: best game this season. And also the Rams had their
Speaker 4: best rushing attack game the entire season when it comes
Speaker 4: to rushing EPA yards for Kerry efficiency was through the
Speaker 4: roof when you get Blake Korn the ball, and I
Speaker 4: think moving forward, there's no way Sean McVay could look
Speaker 4: at these stats for the rushing attack and how efficient
Speaker 4: and how great it was to see Blake Korm get
Speaker 4: his opportunities for the rest of the season. So he's
Speaker 4: definitely a high end handcuff that he needs to be
Speaker 4: added this week.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was actually watching that and forget to myself, like,
Speaker 1: hey man, I wasn't wrong on Blake Korm.
Speaker 2: I was just early like that was kind of how
Speaker 2: I felt.
Speaker 1: About it, because I, you know, I really thought that
Speaker 1: we were going to see more of a two headed
Speaker 1: backfield there. But you know, Sean McVay decided he was
Speaker 1: just gonna lean heavily on Kien Williams and look for
Speaker 1: the first couple months of the season, it worked great.
Speaker 1: It absolutely worked great, Like it was hard to argue
Speaker 1: against it. But the last few weeks it was a
Speaker 1: different story, and so now we're seeing korm get in there,
Speaker 1: so I wonder if we're gonna see a little bit
Speaker 1: more of that going forward. Florio, I would think that
Speaker 1: you are being very sincere about this guy that you are,
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3: Sorry Sinceer McCormick, who most of you probably had no
Speaker 3: idea who he was two three weeks ago, but he
Speaker 3: has played well since getting an opportunity, and I think
Speaker 3: what stood out on Friday was the fact that like
Speaker 3: he was able to run, not just in any matchup,
Speaker 3: like against the Chiefs, who have been the hardest matchup,
Speaker 3: and Lakwan did a great job of pointing this out
Speaker 3: earlier in the year, but like the Chiefs have played
Speaker 3: to who's who would running backs and have held them
Speaker 3: to less than fifty rushing yards. McCormick rushed for sixty
Speaker 3: four on twelve carries, averaging over five yards per carry,
Speaker 3: got involved on the ground a bit, and then after
Speaker 3: the game, other than talking about you know what happened
Speaker 3: in that final play of the game, Antonio Pierce spoke
Speaker 3: a lot about trying to get Sincere McCormick more of
Speaker 3: a look moving forward, and that he will be involved in. Look,
Speaker 3: I know you probably don't want to, but big at
Speaker 3: the Bucks, solid matchup, Falcons solid matchup, and then the
Speaker 3: Jags and the Saints to end the year, great matchups.
Speaker 3: So if you're in need of a flex or something
Speaker 3: like that, you've been streaming that position, streaming running backs,
Speaker 3: whatever it might be. McCormick has upsides, so I would
Speaker 3: I would take a shot on him, especially like we
Speaker 3: keep talking about with bench spots being a little bit
Speaker 3: less in demand now with buis soon to be behind us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and look, we've been trying to find
Speaker 1: a Raiders running back all season long. We went from
Speaker 1: Samir White to Alexander Madison Amir Abdullah being a thing
Speaker 1: for a little bit. So maybe, just maybe, sincere McCormick
Speaker 1: is the guy who takes us the rest of the
Speaker 1: way in that Las Vegas backfield, my deep dive is
Speaker 1: gonna be Juwan Johnson because well, look, Taysom Hill is
Speaker 1: officially gone for the year. A major knee injury is
Speaker 1: gonna take him out, and so you know it's gonna
Speaker 1: be hard to find consistent options in the New Orleans
Speaker 1: offense that aren't named Alvin Kamara. I mean, we talk
Speaker 1: on Monday show about MVS and his opportunity there, but
Speaker 1: don't overlook what Juwan Johnson can bring because he look
Speaker 1: always had deep sleeper vibes.
Speaker 2: Anyway, even when everybody was healthy.
Speaker 1: But now with no Tasom Hill, I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: get a lot more opportunities to go out and get targets,
Speaker 1: be involved in the offense. Understand, the ceiling is not
Speaker 1: gonna be very high, and you're gonna have to kind
Speaker 1: of sort of live with a little bit of volume.
Speaker 1: He had seven targets in that game against the Rams
Speaker 1: on Sunday. But I do think there's some opportunities for
Speaker 1: Juwan Johnson there, and I think especially in the short term,
Speaker 1: six teams on a by in Week fourteen, people are
Speaker 1: gonna be scrambling to kind of get some some tight
Speaker 1: ends in the lineup. So could be a chance for
Speaker 1: Juwan Johnson and maybe just the guy you sort of
Speaker 1: stashed down the stretch, depending on what your tied end
Speaker 1: situation is on your roster. So as always, if we're
Speaker 1: adding folks, we have to be letting folks go. Lakwan
Speaker 1: who goes back to the free agent pool.
Speaker 4: Oh Man Colts wide receiver Ady mitchell I tweeted this
Speaker 4: as soon as I saw it, man, and it's one
Speaker 4: of those plays where you're like, oh my god, he's.
Speaker 2: Gonna make this huge play.
Speaker 4: And he was on a perimeter and the ball just
Speaker 4: goes right through his hands, and right at that moment,
Speaker 4: I was like, drop him, drop there's no points, there's
Speaker 4: no point. I can't deal with these mistakes because that
Speaker 4: makes Anthony Richardson in the box scores look bad. That
Speaker 4: was a huge play and a touchdown if he would
Speaker 4: have caught that. So I'm like, I can't deal with
Speaker 4: guys trying to develop and get, you know, learn on
Speaker 4: the job while I'm facing you know, playoff things. Because
Speaker 4: I picked up Ady mitchell I put him in the
Speaker 4: flex and I was like, look, I just need ten
Speaker 4: points and that probably would have did it, but only
Speaker 4: fourteen routes ran two target zero catches. Yeah, you're you're
Speaker 4: out of here, man. No zombies on the bench.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's been hard with that because the
Speaker 1: passing game just not that deep, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: we like Josh downs when he's healthy. Michael Pittman's starting
Speaker 1: to get some more run. Alec Pierce is gonna get
Speaker 1: some shots. Like I just don't know that that Anthony
Speaker 1: Richardson right now can support that many pass catchers for sure.
Speaker 1: Florio a little bit surprised to see this one, just
Speaker 1: because it's a guy who kind of started to step
Speaker 1: up lately, but maybe maybe it's not enough to keep
Speaker 1: him around.
Speaker 3: He stepped up and then he took two big steps
Speaker 3: back the last two weeks. Quentin Johnson, it pains me
Speaker 3: to say it because because I have been a believer
Speaker 3: and I still do think that the physical ability is there. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: the hand eye coordination is not. Like this guy's had
Speaker 3: like six balls just go through his hands in the
Speaker 3: last two weeks, twelve yards in his last two games,
Speaker 3: and like look Justin Herbert and the Chargers all line
Speaker 3: really disappointed against the Falcons this week, and it could
Speaker 3: have been a much bigger fantasy game all of that,
Speaker 3: but there was like a couple in the last two
Speaker 3: games alone, Like there's been some throws that have gone
Speaker 3: with Quinn Johnson has the capability to make a big
Speaker 3: play and the concentration, the hands, whatever it is they're off.
Speaker 3: I will say, if we hear before your waivers run
Speaker 3: that Ladd McConkie's knee injury is more serious than being
Speaker 3: led on, and he's going to miss time. Then I
Speaker 3: take this all back and pretend I roasted Kirk cousins here.
Speaker 3: But if McConkie is healthy, I think you can move
Speaker 3: on from QJ right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it was always sort of
Speaker 1: I won't say it was it was hopium, but you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I think we were hoping he was progressing. The
Speaker 1: last two weeks, as you mentioned, seems like he's kind
Speaker 1: of gone back to rookie year Quinton Johnston, which is
Speaker 1: not not a great thing at all. At this point
Speaker 1: the YP does he seems out of the yips him
Speaker 1: and Justin Tucker Man. That's a whole other conversation about,
Speaker 1: you know, watching the watching the decline of one of
Speaker 1: the all time greats at the kicking position.
Speaker 2: That's a whole different thing for me.
Speaker 1: It's Wandale Robinson because you know, we were sort of
Speaker 1: hoping that maybe with the quarterback change he would be
Speaker 1: more involved. That didn't happen with Tommy DeVito. Uh, now
Speaker 1: there's Drew Locke. The offense didn't get any better against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys on Thanksgiving Day, and it's just it's one
Speaker 1: of those things where Robinson doesn't give you enough to
Speaker 1: make it worthwhile having him on your roster. Right, you
Speaker 1: need a ton of targets because you're not gonna get
Speaker 1: a whole lot of air yards with him. He's not
Speaker 1: finding the in zone in an offense that just cannot
Speaker 1: score points at all.
Speaker 2: So it's just it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he was still on rosters like
Speaker 1: fifty of fifty NFL dot Com leagues, you guys can
Speaker 1: go on ahead and just say goodbye, because I mean
Speaker 1: unless unless you're in a super deep league where you know,
Speaker 1: getting three catches for you know, fifty yards is gonna
Speaker 1: do it for you. And even that seems like a
Speaker 1: lot actually for for Lwandale to get fifty yards, he
Speaker 1: might have to get, you know, five six catches something
Speaker 1: like that. It's just it's not enough for him to
Speaker 1: put to be in a lineup, and it's really not
Speaker 1: enough for him to be on the roster at this point.
Speaker 1: There are other wide receivers out there that you can
Speaker 1: find that can like maybe give you better outcomes on
Speaker 1: a week two week basis. The floor is low. The
Speaker 1: ceiling is low, the offense is not moving. There's just
Speaker 1: no reason to to keep trying to make it happen
Speaker 1: with Wandale Robinson. So thank you, thank you for your time,
Speaker 1: but uh, it's probably over for now.
Speaker 2: Is this?
Speaker 4: Like he's top ten in catches, which is crazy. He
Speaker 4: has more catches than Tara McLaurin, DJ Moore's A Flowers,
Speaker 4: Cooper Cup Like these names are important, notable, but I
Speaker 4: get it. You have to drop them. He giving you nothing.
Speaker 1: That is mild man. I hadn't even realized that until
Speaker 1: you just now said that. And I'm looking at it and.
Speaker 2: Like you are, like I was looking at it, like wait,
Speaker 2: no way, hold up. And even Danny A.
Speaker 3: Mondola has way to success.
Speaker 2: That is that is absolutely wild man crazy.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, but that's it. I mean that did for
Speaker 1: Wandale Robinson. And that's it for a show. That's it
Speaker 1: for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Stay happy,
Speaker 1: save and healthy, do good and live well. Enjoy the days, everybody,
Speaker 1: and we will talk to you again tomorrow.
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