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Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, It's Tuesday, December second, twenty twenty four. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Show. We've actually started our

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Speaker 1: Christmas shopping. Me and your man named g Mark is

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Speaker 1: grand joyed by Michael Florio and Laclon Jones.

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Speaker 2: Am I speaking out of turn?

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Speaker 1: Have you guys actually gotten ahead of things and started

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Speaker 1: with your holiday shopping right now?

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Speaker 2: About?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: No, my birthday first. My birthday comes first, So I

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Speaker 4: don't do any shopping until after the fourteenth.

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Speaker 1: You got kids, man, Yeah, you put yourself under the gun.

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Speaker 2: Man, If you're like waiting that long, that's that's kind

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Speaker 2: of wild.

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Speaker 4: Well I'm not ordering thing online. I'm going to the store.

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Speaker 3: You know you're gonna go to get a turbo man,

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Speaker 3: and it's gonna be sold out.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow.

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Speaker 1: All right, well there you go. So we will we'll

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Speaker 1: monitor along with the John new Smith update. We'll have

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Speaker 1: the LaQuan holiday shopping update too.

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Speaker 2: Now, So.

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Speaker 3: Nothing until after the fourteenth.

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Speaker 4: Man' there you go, keep going buying everything and nobody's

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Speaker 4: getting me anything from my birthday, Like, I gotta I

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Speaker 4: gotta make sure I'm good first.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: All right, family, take care of me.

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Speaker 2: Man, Hey man, if you don't love yourself, who the

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Speaker 2: hell will? Right?

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Speaker 1: I understand that we got some things that died into

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do some fantasy vaux pause, basically the guys

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Speaker 1: who likely killed your playoff hopes. I know there's still

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Speaker 1: one more week in the regular season, but I know

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Speaker 1: for a lot of folks this might have been a

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Speaker 1: due or die week, especially with six teams on a bye.

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk about the guys who you know officially

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Speaker 1: laid your fantasy teams to rest in week thirteen. Have

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Speaker 1: some waiver wire deep dives guys are putting on the

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Speaker 1: waiver wire. But first let's start with some big questions

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Speaker 1: for week fourteen and beyond the first one.

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Speaker 2: I am loath you guys know this.

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Speaker 1: I am loath to talk about the Jets on this show,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, it's just we've all had enough of them.

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Speaker 1: But this sort of feels pertinent. Floya, what do we

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Speaker 1: do with Breasee Hall Because it hasn't been terrible, but

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Speaker 1: it hasn't been great and it just seems like there's

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Speaker 2: We have a good Breezehull game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like you look at his recent game logs, and

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Speaker 3: like on NFL dot Com, you'll see right here, like

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Speaker 3: forced mistackles at the lowest rate in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 3: There's too much volume, the upside is too high, and

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Speaker 3: the schedule opens up like the Dolphins, then he gets

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Speaker 2: The kuhy is it bad that I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: I mean i'mless I can get Saquon, Like Saquan feels

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Speaker 4: I would forfeit the first round pick on a running back.

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Speaker 4: Like I think my years of like drafting and running

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Speaker 4: And like I got Jamier Gibbs and the early second round,

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Speaker 4: Like it definitely wasn't the first two rounds. So it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did this.

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Speaker 3: Year, and I hate most of my teams.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I mean I feel like, you know, the only

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Speaker 2: Like, just pick good players.

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Speaker 1: And that was my problem is that I didn't pick

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Speaker 3: All the aging running backs that change teams that history

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Speaker 3: they're this age and old and changed teams. They're all

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Speaker 3: absolutely dominating this year. Like this has been one of

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Speaker 2: I hate history zero zero. It has made zero sense

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Speaker 1: Next big question, uh, lak On, I will start with

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Speaker 1: you on this one. Are we officially done with CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud after he gave us fourteen points against the Jaguars.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we could chalk it of. I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 3: How is this impossible?

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Speaker 4: When you have Nico Collins back, you have Tank Dell

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Speaker 4: Stroud's not making the magic he made and you know

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Speaker 4: I will pivot. If there's rushing upside with another quarterback,

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Speaker 4: I will pivot. And I will take this moment to

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Speaker 4: Stroud's a top five fantasy quarterback that looks absurd right now.

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Speaker 4: And you know he's just been completely underwhelming even with

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Speaker 1: I mean, Floria, I look at it as they have

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Speaker 2: They've got the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: We know how good that defense has been for long

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Speaker 1: they actually have, you know, pretty favorable numbers for quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know that we really trust that.

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Speaker 1: But Week seventeen, Championship week, they've got the Ravens. There's

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Speaker 2: Like, is it going to be a struggle.

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Speaker 1: Is it going to be like you having to you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think after yesterday, I'm done

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Speaker 3: with CJ. Stroud. He was only under pressure on five

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Speaker 3: that not only has he dominated the Jaguars every time

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Speaker 3: most fantasy points to quarterbacks. I mean, this was and

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Speaker 3: it's not like, Okay, this was a game where the

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Speaker 3: I would argue that I think he is better on belongs,

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Speaker 3: more on waiver wires right now than he does in

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Speaker 3: starting lineups and championship game on the line, especially if

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Speaker 3: like we don't if he doesn't perform well in the

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Speaker 3: next two games, There's no way I could win my

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Speaker 3: championship on the line. Throw this guy in, even in

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Speaker 3: what is a favorable matchup, because the Ravens actually can

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think He's going to be a really interesting

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Speaker 1: case study in the offseason as we sort of compare

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Speaker 1: not we can sort of buy back in. I guess

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Speaker 1: the upside is the asking price in a draft is

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Speaker 1: going to be a lot less for CJ. Stroud next

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Speaker 1: year compared to what it was this year. Laquans were

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Speaker 1: to talk about this on Monday Show. So I'll ask you, Florio,

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Speaker 1: are you buying in now on Bryce Young? After certainly

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Speaker 1: that's what we saw from him on Sunday, but even

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Speaker 1: going back the last few few weeks, are we starting

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Speaker 1: to maybe buy in? And I'm not sitting here telling

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen is a tough matchup start Bryce Young, But

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Speaker 1: like in terms of you know, maybe fringe QB one

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Speaker 3: I'm starting to I've bought in from a real life

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Speaker 3: because like yesterday was awesome, but it's also his first

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Speaker 3: real big Fantasy game of this season, and like next week,

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Speaker 3: he gets the Eagles, I will tell you right now,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to play him against that secondary. But

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Speaker 3: like he looks the part, he's passed the eye test.

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Speaker 3: He did enough to win that game twice yesterday, and

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Speaker 3: if the I really wanted that for him, because if

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Speaker 3: the Panthers would have held on, it would have been

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Speaker 3: I think there's reason to get excited for Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mathematically, I mean I think mathematically it's still possible.

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Speaker 3: Question for you guys, I know we're getting week a

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean remember remember before the draft, right, everybody

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Speaker 1: And then after last year it was like the it

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Speaker 3: You cales breathe.

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Speaker 1: If you're a Caleb fan, it is not it is

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Speaker 1: far from over. Like, hey man, it hasn't even been

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Speaker 2: But you can change that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can also put that as much on the

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Speaker 2: You know. So there was a lot of fired Yes,

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Speaker 1: Basically there was a lot of blame to go around

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Speaker 5: Speaking of us, speaking of faux pas, Uh, you're still

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Speaker 5: maybe you overthought it, maybe it seemed like a great

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Speaker 1: Uh, it felt like a good time to bring this

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Speaker 2: Paul for a lot of people this week, A.

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Speaker 4: Lot of people that were on that fence of like

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Speaker 4: I mean, Gus Edwards only had six carries, So it's

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Speaker 4: But the Chargers backfield without JK. Dobbins cannot be dependent on,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had Gus Edwards in the Sleepers column last week,

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Speaker 2: But I sort of hope that volume would kind of

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Speaker 1: But to your point, I think the Chargers looked around

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Speaker 1: And look, Kamani Vidal ended up with four carries. He

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Speaker 2: Who was your fantasy faux Paul.

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Speaker 3: Florio Kenneth Walker, who I have on a lot of

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Speaker 3: sixteen carries, three targets. Zach Charboney had twelve carried. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 3: all going to Zach Sharbonay and Seahawks had this one

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Speaker 3: Like I don't know what I was watching on that sequence,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, since week eight, eleven Fantasy points per game

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Speaker 3: too good to sit. He's one of those anchors that

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Speaker 3: I'm never gonna sit him, and he's just dragging me

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's just been frustrating to kind of

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Speaker 2: Incredibly frustrated.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you know who else is probably frustrated. It's our

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Speaker 4: So shout out to Mantai. I know you're stressed out.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, we haven't talked to Manta in a while.

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Speaker 1: Teams are doing, because you know, yeah, we know he

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Speaker 1: Minus Chuba Hubbard, right, and and Cuba has been great

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Speaker 1: Fantasy points. I'm still really not worried about Jonathan Brooks.

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Speaker 2: I know, he got on the field and he got

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Speaker 2: This is still Chuba Hubber's backfield.

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Speaker 1: But you know, as a guy that you were kind

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Speaker 1: I'm this this one hurt, you know, to get again

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Speaker 2: This is one that probably gonna, you know, leave you

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Speaker 1: You know, and so we'll see if he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, man, anybody who knows if Drake shows

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Speaker 1: Let that be a lesson.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I gonna take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: Come back, We're gonna talk some waiver wire deep dives

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Speaker 2: That's next on the NFL Fantasy Football Show. Time to

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Speaker 1: Lakwan, Who's somebody that we should be checking for that

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Speaker 2: Can I can?

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Speaker 4: Last week I said my biggest hot take is that

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Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Sorry Sinceer McCormick, who most of you probably had no

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Speaker 3: idea who he was two three weeks ago, but he

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Speaker 3: has played well since getting an opportunity, and I think

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Speaker 3: what stood out on Friday was the fact that like

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Speaker 3: he was able to run, not just in any matchup,

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Speaker 3: like against the Chiefs, who have been the hardest matchup,

446
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Speaker 3: and Lakwan did a great job of pointing this out

447
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Speaker 3: earlier in the year, but like the Chiefs have played

448
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Speaker 3: to who's who would running backs and have held them

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Speaker 3: to less than fifty rushing yards. McCormick rushed for sixty

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Speaker 3: four on twelve carries, averaging over five yards per carry,

451
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Speaker 3: got involved on the ground a bit, and then after

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Speaker 3: the game, other than talking about you know what happened

453
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Speaker 3: in that final play of the game, Antonio Pierce spoke

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Speaker 3: a lot about trying to get Sincere McCormick more of

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Speaker 3: a look moving forward, and that he will be involved in. Look,

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Speaker 3: I know you probably don't want to, but big at

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Speaker 3: the Bucks, solid matchup, Falcons solid matchup, and then the

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Speaker 3: Jags and the Saints to end the year, great matchups.

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Speaker 3: So if you're in need of a flex or something

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Speaker 3: like that, you've been streaming that position, streaming running backs,

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Speaker 3: whatever it might be. McCormick has upsides, so I would

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Speaker 3: I would take a shot on him, especially like we

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Speaker 3: keep talking about with bench spots being a little bit

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Speaker 3: less in demand now with buis soon to be behind us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and look, we've been trying to find

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Speaker 1: a Raiders running back all season long. We went from

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Speaker 1: Samir White to Alexander Madison Amir Abdullah being a thing

468
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Speaker 1: for a little bit. So maybe, just maybe, sincere McCormick

469
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Speaker 1: is the guy who takes us the rest of the

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Speaker 1: way in that Las Vegas backfield, my deep dive is

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Speaker 1: gonna be Juwan Johnson because well, look, Taysom Hill is

472
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Speaker 1: officially gone for the year. A major knee injury is

473
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Speaker 1: gonna take him out, and so you know it's gonna

474
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Speaker 1: be hard to find consistent options in the New Orleans

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Speaker 1: offense that aren't named Alvin Kamara. I mean, we talk

476
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Speaker 1: on Monday show about MVS and his opportunity there, but

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Speaker 1: don't overlook what Juwan Johnson can bring because he look

478
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Speaker 1: always had deep sleeper vibes.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, even when everybody was healthy.

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Speaker 1: But now with no Tasom Hill, I think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: get a lot more opportunities to go out and get targets,

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Speaker 1: be involved in the offense. Understand, the ceiling is not

483
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Speaker 1: gonna be very high, and you're gonna have to kind

484
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Speaker 1: of sort of live with a little bit of volume.

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Speaker 1: He had seven targets in that game against the Rams

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. But I do think there's some opportunities for

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Speaker 1: Juwan Johnson there, and I think especially in the short term,

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Speaker 1: six teams on a by in Week fourteen, people are

489
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Speaker 1: gonna be scrambling to kind of get some some tight

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Speaker 1: ends in the lineup. So could be a chance for

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Speaker 1: Juwan Johnson and maybe just the guy you sort of

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Speaker 1: stashed down the stretch, depending on what your tied end

493
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Speaker 1: situation is on your roster. So as always, if we're

494
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Speaker 1: adding folks, we have to be letting folks go. Lakwan

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Speaker 1: who goes back to the free agent pool.

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Speaker 4: Oh Man Colts wide receiver Ady mitchell I tweeted this

497
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Speaker 4: as soon as I saw it, man, and it's one

498
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Speaker 4: of those plays where you're like, oh my god, he's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna make this huge play.

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Speaker 4: And he was on a perimeter and the ball just

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Speaker 4: goes right through his hands, and right at that moment,

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Speaker 4: I was like, drop him, drop there's no points, there's

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Speaker 4: no point. I can't deal with these mistakes because that

504
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 4: makes Anthony Richardson in the box scores look bad. That

505
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 4: was a huge play and a touchdown if he would

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Speaker 4: have caught that. So I'm like, I can't deal with

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Speaker 4: guys trying to develop and get, you know, learn on

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Speaker 4: the job while I'm facing you know, playoff things. Because

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Speaker 4: I picked up Ady mitchell I put him in the

510
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Speaker 4: flex and I was like, look, I just need ten

511
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Speaker 4: points and that probably would have did it, but only

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Speaker 4: fourteen routes ran two target zero catches. Yeah, you're you're

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Speaker 4: out of here, man. No zombies on the bench.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's been hard with that because the

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Speaker 1: passing game just not that deep, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we like Josh downs when he's healthy. Michael Pittman's starting

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Speaker 1: to get some more run. Alec Pierce is gonna get

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Speaker 1: some shots. Like I just don't know that that Anthony

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Speaker 1: Richardson right now can support that many pass catchers for sure.

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Speaker 1: Florio a little bit surprised to see this one, just

521
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Speaker 1: because it's a guy who kind of started to step

522
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Speaker 1: up lately, but maybe maybe it's not enough to keep

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Speaker 1: him around.

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Speaker 3: He stepped up and then he took two big steps

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Speaker 3: back the last two weeks. Quentin Johnson, it pains me

526
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Speaker 3: to say it because because I have been a believer

527
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Speaker 3: and I still do think that the physical ability is there. Unfortunately,

528
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Speaker 3: the hand eye coordination is not. Like this guy's had

529
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Speaker 3: like six balls just go through his hands in the

530
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Speaker 3: last two weeks, twelve yards in his last two games,

531
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Speaker 3: and like look Justin Herbert and the Chargers all line

532
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Speaker 3: really disappointed against the Falcons this week, and it could

533
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Speaker 3: have been a much bigger fantasy game all of that,

534
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Speaker 3: but there was like a couple in the last two

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Speaker 3: games alone, Like there's been some throws that have gone

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Speaker 3: with Quinn Johnson has the capability to make a big

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Speaker 3: play and the concentration, the hands, whatever it is they're off.

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Speaker 3: I will say, if we hear before your waivers run

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Speaker 3: that Ladd McConkie's knee injury is more serious than being

540
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Speaker 3: led on, and he's going to miss time. Then I

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Speaker 3: take this all back and pretend I roasted Kirk cousins here.

542
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Speaker 3: But if McConkie is healthy, I think you can move

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Speaker 3: on from QJ right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it was always sort of

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Speaker 1: I won't say it was it was hopium, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm I think we were hoping he was progressing. The

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Speaker 1: last two weeks, as you mentioned, seems like he's kind

548
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Speaker 1: of gone back to rookie year Quinton Johnston, which is

549
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Speaker 1: not not a great thing at all. At this point

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Speaker 1: the YP does he seems out of the yips him

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Speaker 1: and Justin Tucker Man. That's a whole other conversation about,

552
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Speaker 1: you know, watching the watching the decline of one of

553
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Speaker 1: the all time greats at the kicking position.

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Speaker 2: That's a whole different thing for me.

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Speaker 1: It's Wandale Robinson because you know, we were sort of

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Speaker 1: hoping that maybe with the quarterback change he would be

557
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Speaker 1: more involved. That didn't happen with Tommy DeVito. Uh, now

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Speaker 1: there's Drew Locke. The offense didn't get any better against

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys on Thanksgiving Day, and it's just it's one

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Speaker 1: of those things where Robinson doesn't give you enough to

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Speaker 1: make it worthwhile having him on your roster. Right, you

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Speaker 1: need a ton of targets because you're not gonna get

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of air yards with him. He's not

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Speaker 1: finding the in zone in an offense that just cannot

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Speaker 1: score points at all.

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Speaker 2: So it's just it doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he was still on rosters like

568
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Speaker 1: fifty of fifty NFL dot Com leagues, you guys can

569
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Speaker 1: go on ahead and just say goodbye, because I mean

570
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Speaker 1: unless unless you're in a super deep league where you know,

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Speaker 1: getting three catches for you know, fifty yards is gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for you. And even that seems like a

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Speaker 1: lot actually for for Lwandale to get fifty yards, he

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Speaker 1: might have to get, you know, five six catches something

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Speaker 1: like that. It's just it's not enough for him to

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Speaker 1: put to be in a lineup, and it's really not

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Speaker 1: enough for him to be on the roster at this point.

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Speaker 1: There are other wide receivers out there that you can

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Speaker 1: find that can like maybe give you better outcomes on

580
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Speaker 1: a week two week basis. The floor is low. The

581
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: ceiling is low, the offense is not moving. There's just

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Speaker 1: no reason to to keep trying to make it happen

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Speaker 1: with Wandale Robinson. So thank you, thank you for your time,

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Speaker 1: but uh, it's probably over for now.

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Speaker 2: Is this?

586
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Speaker 4: Like he's top ten in catches, which is crazy. He

587
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 4: has more catches than Tara McLaurin, DJ Moore's A Flowers,

588
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 4: Cooper Cup Like these names are important, notable, but I

589
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 4: get it. You have to drop them. He giving you nothing.

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Speaker 1: That is mild man. I hadn't even realized that until

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Speaker 1: you just now said that. And I'm looking at it and.

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Speaker 2: Like you are, like I was looking at it, like wait,

593
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Speaker 2: no way, hold up. And even Danny A.

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Speaker 3: Mondola has way to success.

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Speaker 2: That is that is absolutely wild man crazy.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, but that's it. I mean that did for

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Speaker 1: Wandale Robinson. And that's it for a show. That's it

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Speaker 1: for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Stay happy,

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Speaker 1: save and healthy, do good and live well. Enjoy the days, everybody,

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Speaker 1: and we will talk to you again tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Wo