1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets podcast powered 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: by Amazon Web Services. Free Agency is upon us. Back 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: in the studio too, oh yeah, back in the saddle 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: in the bed MGM studio. Baby yeah. Producer Matt Sickoff, 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: who happens to be our technical director in our ears 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: dropping that M gonna drop the bet MGM out here. 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: So this is the deal. The Jets have reportedly agreed 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: to terms with Corey Davis, the former Tennessee Titans wide receiver. 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: We have Toron Davenport on this episode. He covers the 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: Titans for ESPN NFL Nation. It's a great interview. You 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: get all you need to know about Corey Davis and 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: how good is Toron Davenport because he really breaks down 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: ball and he loves it. Yeah. Yeah, he smiled the 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: whole the whole interview. He smiled. You know that he 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: loves talking talking about some ball, talking about Titans and 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: Corey Davis to this episode in particular. Yeah, And we 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: talked in our Free Agency previews for weeks about the 18 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: number of guys potentially who was going to hit the market. 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: And at the top of the list, I know fans 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: have talked about Allen Robinson, and Chris Godwin, and it 21 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: was a deep wide receiver group and Corey Davis, I thought, 22 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: for a little bit went under the radar, and then 23 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: when the Jets scooped him up and you did your 24 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: background on him and you saw what kind of year 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: he had, and then you go back and look at 26 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: film and say, well, yeah, there's no wonder why the 27 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: Jets were interested in them. And something that you pointed 28 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: out is the la Fleur connection here. Mike Lafleur um 29 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: the Jets offensive coordinator. Matt Lafleur, now the Green Bay 30 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: Packers head coach, was in Tennessee in two thousand eight 31 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: teen when Corey Davis had a second best see season 32 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: prior to two thousand twenty, and in two thousand eighteen 33 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: on a sour note for the Jets. But I'm sure 34 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: this is how a lot of Jets fans remember Corey Davis. 35 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: The Jets in Week thirteen were winning for three and 36 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: three quarters quarters, maybe even more than that, and they 37 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: lost twenty two to twenty six when Corey Davis caught 38 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: a touchdown pass from Marcus mariottas second you said they 39 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: lost twenty two to twenty six. You inversed it, Yeah, 40 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: they lost twenty. On my screen, the Jets are on 41 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: the left that Titans are on the right, so I 42 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: read it left to right, So I think I think 43 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: for the Jets, uh, for Jets fans is forgettable season 44 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 1: and it was. To be honest with you, I don't 45 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: even look at their final record, and that was one 46 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: of those games where they controlled most of it. Like 47 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: you just pointed out where we were there, We were there, 48 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: it was it was I remember, couldn't close the deal, Yeah, 49 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: I remember, I think it was. Leonard Williams after the 50 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: game was like, this is a weird feeling. I don't 51 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: know how to feel because it felt like we were 52 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: winning the entire game, and obviously we lost, so got 53 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: mixed emotional. Corey Davis is going to help this team 54 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: win games in two thousand, twenty one and beyond, and 55 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm very interested to see, uh what the 56 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: Jets now do, not only free agency, but of course 57 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: the draft, because you've been working for months on this 58 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: with Dame Bruegler, the Athletics. Dane Bruegler, this wide receiver 59 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: class could even be better than last year, and they 60 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: were talking about it as an historical class last year. 61 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: So here we go this April again, and the Jets 62 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: got themselves better at the position on the outside. Denzel 63 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: Mimsel's a fine last year, and now you're gonna pair 64 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: them up with Corey Davis. And I like the physical 65 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: uh element that they can bring to the table. I'm 66 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: gonna say what I want to say about the Jets 67 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: receiver's room until after we hear from Tehran. But one 68 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: note that I saw, I think Cynthia Freelance that on 69 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: NFL Network it's the next gen stat powered by AWS, 70 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: and she said that only three receivers had more yards 71 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: off of play action plays than Corey Davis, and it 72 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: was Stefon Diggs, Calvin Ridley, and DeAndre Hopkins. So good company, 73 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: good company. And but the reason why I wanted to 74 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: bring it up is because the Titans use a lot 75 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: of play action and that's something that the forty Niners 76 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: use a lot of in San Francisco, obviously, and you 77 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: would assume that there'd be a heavy incorporation of play 78 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: action with Mike Lafleur in New York. Well, that's the 79 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: Shanahan offense, and that is we're gonna pound you with 80 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: the zone running game outside zone. Uh, sometimes they're gonna 81 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: go inside off of that, but they play action, you know, 82 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: can we pound you with the running game, get after 83 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: you win in the trenches, and then we're gonna go 84 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: up the field. And these guys can win down the 85 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: field in Mims because Mims and Davis are guys that 86 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: even if they're not by you, they're still going to 87 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: have the ability to get the ball just because their 88 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: wide bodies, they're stout, their physical dudes, and they're not 89 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: afraid to get in traffic. So enough from us, let's 90 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: hear from toront Davenport on Corey Davis. That's talk some shots. 91 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: Is great to see you, Toront. I hope you and 92 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: your family are doing well. N I found free agency 93 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: is finally upon us. What were your initial thoughts when 94 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: you heard former Titans receiver Corey Davis had agreed to 95 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: terms with the New York Jets. Yeah, the first thing 96 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: I thought of was just the way he worked through 97 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: so much adversity last year, and I felt bad for 98 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 1: him because he felt sixteen yards short of his first 99 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: thousand yards season. But I thought it was a tough 100 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: move for the Titans. Is something that just kind of 101 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: had to happen because of other things cap wise, but 102 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: I did jests are getting an awesome player, you know. 103 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: I feel like Jets fans don't know a ton about 104 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: Corey Davis the player, outside of the fact that he 105 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: was the number five overall pick in two thousand and seventeen. 106 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: So how would you categorize his playing style? Yeah, I 107 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: think his playing style is just, in one word, complete. 108 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: He's a guy that runs excellent routes. He knows how 109 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: to accelerate and decelerate really well. His releases are solid. 110 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: If you go man coverage against him one on one, 111 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: he's going to eat you a lot. And I think 112 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: you know a good example of that is the Bengals 113 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: game from this past year. He had William Jackson the 114 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: third on him man on man, and he won frequently. 115 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: You look at the game against Stefani Gilmour if he 116 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: stays with the Patriots back in two thousand and eighteen, 117 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: he had an outstanding game against him also, so me, 118 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, when you ask about his game, I think 119 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: of a guy who slid through the cash point gets 120 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: what you call combat catches, a guy who could take 121 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: over a game if you consistently give him targets. He's 122 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: never gonna complain about not getting enough targets he even 123 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: though he wants them. And then the other thing that 124 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: is severely underrated is his ability to block in the 125 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: running game. And you look at the Derrick Henry highlights, 126 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: most of them are gonna have eighty four flashing in 127 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: the screen. In fact, look at his ninety nine yard 128 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: touchdown run. It was so bad Henry almost stiff on 129 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: Corey Davis and we joked about that. But that's just 130 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: an example of how much he is in the mix 131 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: on running. Please to run, you break down the game. So, 132 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: while how much do you love his physicality, because he 133 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: just touched upon that a little bit because when he 134 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: came out of Western Michigan, people didn't know. They knew 135 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: he was fast, but they didn't get an opportunity to 136 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: actually get his time speed. So it seems like he's 137 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: got a nice combination of big dude who gets after it, 138 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: but he can run as well. Yeah, I'll say this, 139 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: and this is not saying like comparing games like as 140 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: far as like the success that he'll have. But I 141 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: remember watching Western Michigan and the Bahamas Bowl, and he 142 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: caught in a hitch and he turned and he ran 143 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: and he broke a tackle and it reminded me of 144 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: Arrel Olmens, you know. But uh, the physicalities there, He's 145 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: the guy that you can have slits, He's gonna break tackles, 146 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: you can have him run the digs. He's never afraid 147 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 1: of contact. So it's it's definitely something that that really 148 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: stands out. I just love the way he attacks the 149 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: football also, and he's one of those players he's a 150 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: groove guy. When you get him in the groove and 151 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: you go to him consistently, the results are gonna follow. 152 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: And I go back to that Gilmore game from two 153 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen, the third play, you know, a deep 154 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: over for forty yards and he had over at one 155 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: forty against the Patriots that day. That guy is he's 156 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: he's a solid player, Toron. I think some fans out there, 157 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: their natural reaction is your report is so blowing, why 158 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: would the Titans let this guy out of their grasp? 159 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: So can you talk about that a little bit? Yeah, 160 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: for sure. I think the one thing with Corey Davis 161 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: and I touched on it, you know, with him falling 162 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: sixteen yards short of a thousand yards, the one thing, 163 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: if there's anything that that is a question mark is 164 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: a consistency. Sometimes when he's not getting the targets, he 165 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: won't complain, but you'll see him not be involved with 166 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: the game as far as like being a guy that 167 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: that you know, his only contribution will be running, uh, 168 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: you know, when they're running the ball, he's blocking. I 169 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: think consistency is a big thing. He looked down the 170 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: stretch last year. You know, he was on on page 171 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: to half a thousand yards, but there were a couple 172 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: of doughnuts. And I get it because this was a 173 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: time where he was dealing with the loss of his 174 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: his older brother Titus, you know, who had um cancer complications, 175 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: pancreatic cancer complications. So you know that's excuse kidney complications, um, 176 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: but it's it's a tough situation, you know, trying to 177 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: place you that he did, but for some of the 178 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: inconsistently show here. He looked over his career to have 179 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: been as well. Speaking of that, how much of you 180 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: do you think it's going to mean to Corey actually 181 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: playing for the New York Jets because his brother Titus 182 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: did have a couple of stints here on the practice 183 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: squad and now he's coming up here joining our organization 184 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: where his brother played for a short time. Yeah, I 185 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: think that would be an excellent question to ask him 186 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: because and talking to him, you know, his brother Titus was, 187 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, like like his idol, Like he strived to 188 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: be like Titus. So that's something that that definitely, I'm 189 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: sure you know he has that in mind, and it 190 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: makes being where he is much more meaningful just because 191 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: of that that connection, that correlation to his brother. When 192 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: you look at Corey davis stats since entering the league 193 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: in two thousand and seventeen, majority speaking, they seem to 194 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: be trending upwards. Do you think that the Jets are 195 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: buying per se at a good time and you think 196 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: that there's still a lot of untapped potential that the 197 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: Jets and Michael flore the offensive coordinator can untapped. Oh? Absolutely, 198 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: I think they are buying. And it's funny you mentioned 199 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: michaela floor the OC. His brother Matt Lafleur was the 200 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: O C with the Titans in two thousand eighteen, and 201 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: Davis before Derrick Henry went crazy in December, he was 202 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: trending towards a thousand yards season. So I think you're 203 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: you're getting a guy who definitely there's a lot of 204 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: untapped potential. And I think when you have a player 205 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: like Davis, you have to go to him consistently, give 206 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: him targets. And when you give him targets he has produced. 207 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: Go back and look at the numbers. You know he 208 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: gets those those target that Bankers game, you know he 209 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: was targeted I think twelve or fourteen times. He caught 210 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: eleven of them. So we're talking about a guy who 211 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: was definitely able to produce. When given the opportunity now 212 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: coming to the Jets, I would imagine he would be 213 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: the number one or or one aide to Danzel Mims 214 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: is the one b who knows, but I think he's 215 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: gonna get targets in itself. Do you get caught up 216 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: in numbers when you think of receivers, because I know 217 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people at homes always say is he 218 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: a number one receiver? Is he a number two receiver? 219 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: You just mentioned the combination now potentially outside with the Jets. 220 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: Denzel Mims did some very good things his rookie season, 221 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: and what I like from a Jet perspective is we've 222 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: talked about it. These are big body guys with good 223 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: catch radius is six ft three six ft three, willing 224 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: blockers and guys who can get the contested football. So 225 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if we should be worried about his 226 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: ceiling just as long as he continues to improve, right, Yeah, 227 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: I don't think they should be concerned about his ceiling, 228 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: and he will continue to improve. And I think the 229 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: biggest aspect is just the fact that if you give 230 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: him targets, he's gonna deliver. The only times he was 231 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: inconsistent is when he didn't get targeted enough, and I 232 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: I really looking at that. You mentioned the size he 233 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: plays with with physicality, he's someone as I mentioned, running slants, 234 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: running uh deep in breaking routes, he uses that big 235 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: body to ward off cornerbacks and make the catch. So 236 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna be reliable for Sam Darna or whoever is 237 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: the quarterback there. When the Jets opened up the season, Toronto, 238 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: can you tell us a little bit more about Corey 239 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: Davis's story coming out of Western Michigan, because there's tremendous 240 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: insight you know, to Corey Davis the person online, but 241 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: speaking to Corey and your time with the Titans and 242 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,599 Speaker 1: his time with the Titans. What kind of person is 243 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: Corey Davis and how did his upbringing shape him? Yeah, well, 244 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: I tell you one thing, You're not gonna find a 245 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: player that works harder than him. I remember watching him, 246 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, before practice, coming out, loosening up, catching passes, 247 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: and then after practice on the jugs machine. That's something 248 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: he did consistently working throughout practice with receiver coach Rob Moore, 249 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: former Jet. Uh, they're very close and they did a 250 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: lot on different things as far as releases, catching, through contact, 251 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: just everything a very very detailed with the stuff that 252 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: they do. Now. Jumping off of that culture fit, Joe 253 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: Douglas has emphasized that as he continues to try to 254 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: build this roster a new coaching staff, of course. Uh, 255 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: how was Corey inside the locker room? The well, the 256 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: way you've talked about him for some time now, we've 257 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: read your work as well. If you've you've always come 258 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: across impressed, and it seems like his teammates have enjoyed 259 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: being around him as well. Yeah. Over talented, that's the 260 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: way I described him. But within the locker room it 261 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: was great. You know, he and the other receivers got 262 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: along well. He was looked upon as as the you know, 263 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: the guy in the in the locker room, as far 264 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: as receivers are concerned. He embraced the whole process of 265 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: a j Brown coming in and kind of working into 266 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: the fellow guy. I think that was something that was impressive, 267 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: because again, you never song pot And I used to 268 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: go to him sometimes and just be like, you know, Corey, 269 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: you gotta demand the football, man, why don't you demanding 270 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: the football? And he always would say he didn't want 271 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: to come across as a diva. So I told him 272 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: this story, Uh, Jerry Rice, you know the game where 273 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: t O set the record for most receptions. They were 274 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: winning that game and Jerry Rice on that same sideline 275 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: was throwing temperate chances and having a fit. And I 276 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: turned to him and I said, Corey, would you consider 277 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: Jerry Rice a diva? And he said no, and he 278 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: kind of laughed at that. But he's a guy that 279 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm telling you there there's a lot of positive with him. Man. 280 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: You know, if if they could find a way to 281 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: get him targeted and and you know, go to him 282 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: and and give him the touches that he needs, he's 283 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: gonna be productive. But the thing that I thought was 284 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: really awesome about him even within that locker room. Is 285 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: he never complained about not getting those touches although he 286 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: understood his role, and even though he was the number 287 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: five pick in the draft, you know when he came out, 288 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: he wasn't a guy that was feet and there was 289 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: never a complaint about that. To run my last question 290 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: to you, as you mentioned the Matt Lafloor system in 291 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: Tennessee in two thousand eighteen. We've obviously never seen Michael 292 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: la Floor call a game before a lot of people 293 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: think that it's going to be a Shanahan type scheme. 294 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: So in two thousand eighteen, can you talk about Corey 295 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: Davis's role in that system which could perhaps shed light 296 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: on what he'll do here in New York. Yeah. Absolutely, 297 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: he was the number one guy in that system. And 298 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: I talked about the Patriots game. You go go back 299 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: and look at the Eagles game as well. I mean 300 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: everything on the line, you know, it's it's it's late 301 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: in the game, is it's a situation do or die? 302 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota saw Corey Davis in the slot throw the 303 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: ball up to him and he went up and caught it, 304 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: and they wont that game. That's an example of what 305 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: you could get from him when asked to be the guy. 306 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: He could be that guy. It's just a matter of 307 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: giving him the opportunity to do that. And I think 308 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: you know, if you just watch that game against the Eagles, 309 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: or you watch a lot of games when he was 310 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: with Michael Florida, thing I always stood out to me 311 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: was he moved across the formation. You saw him work 312 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: at X. You saw't work at Z as I mentioned 313 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: against the Eagles, he didn't work in the slot, and 314 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: he was productive in all ways. And it goes back 315 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: to what I said about the work on his releases. 316 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: He could be on the ball and he'll win that 317 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: way he went in the middle of the field. You 318 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: can even run reverses with him too. So and the 319 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: thing that I like about this system, potentially we saw 320 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: that a lot with the Titans, as you know, is 321 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: that physical run game, set up passes, down the field, 322 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: vertical passes. Because I think people think in terms of 323 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: the shanahand system sometimes it's the West Coast offense. It's 324 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: not a West Coast offense. They'll use that run game 325 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: and then go play action and go up top and 326 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: Corey Davis can go get it. Yeah, and the nuance 327 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: with the route running, He's able to sell routes. There 328 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: was I want to say against the Lions, they went 329 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: play action and he ran the deep inbreaking route he 330 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: planned and stepped back to the outside, the safety turned 331 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: to the post, he ran the corner. It was a 332 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: seventy plus yard touchdown. So the big playability is there. 333 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: Great stuff from Tron Davenport, and I do want to 334 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: bring up something that not only Toron said, but something 335 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: that we've discussed in the past. Corey Davis. He said 336 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: that his blocking is touted with Denzel Mims. He was 337 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: also touted for his blocking, and Denzel Mims takes pride 338 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: in blocking and in a system like the Shanahan system 339 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: where the run in the past mirror each other. I mean, 340 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: we spoke to Matt Myoco a couple of weeks ago 341 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: and he was saying that there were run plays that 342 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: are designed to look like run plays in the first 343 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: couple of seconds and then it's a past play and 344 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: vice versa. And having two wide receivers that can both 345 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: go up and get the ball and block, it's only 346 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: gonna behoove what the Jets are trying to do. Yeah, 347 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: and Davis, you mentioned at the top of the podcast 348 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: here the former number five, number five overall pick in 349 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: the two thousand and seventeen draft. In four seasons with 350 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: the Titans, two seven receptions, nearly three thousand yards receiving, 351 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: one eleven touchdowns, but last year was really the breakout 352 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: where he nearly had a thousand yards receiving playing across 353 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: the way from a j. Brown. But this guy is 354 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: uber talented. But these are complete football players, and he 355 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: is another culture addition because toront Davenport touched upon that 356 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: he was looked upon highly inside that Titans locker room. 357 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: And in fact, it's interesting when you hear somebody talk 358 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: about a receiver nowadays and say he's kind of unselfish 359 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: in Toronto, bring up the anecdote of hey, Jerry Rice 360 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: wanted the ball more even when they were winning, so um. 361 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: But he's a guy who you look at a number 362 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: of guitar gets here early in free agency for the 363 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: Jets's it seems like they all have a couple of 364 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: things in common. They're young, they're ascending, and also they're 365 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: good players on the field who have been productive. But 366 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: they're also good fits inside whatever building they're in. And 367 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: when you look at what the Jets receiver's room now 368 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: looks like, we've been focusing on Davis and Mims. Also, 369 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: just one quick note, den Gel Mims, I think we 370 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: forget that he ran a sub four four forty at 371 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: the combine because he had the hamstring injuries. Can ask 372 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: him what he thought Davis would have run coming out 373 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: of Western Michigan. Yeah, I will ask, since weever, no 374 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: one knows. Yeah, I mean his highlights look like he's 375 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: extremely fast, but he's also playing at Western Michigan, not 376 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: the same level of competition as someone, let's say, in 377 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: the SEC. But you know, I will say, when you 378 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: look at the Jets landscape at receiver now with MIM's Davis, 379 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder, I mean the Jets could also add somebody 380 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: through the draft or through free agency if they decide to. 381 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: But if you were to line up tomorrow, maybe tonight, 382 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: Corey Davis, Dengel Mims, Jamison Crowder, that's a pretty good 383 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: starting formation in the NFL. I'd agree with that. And 384 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: I also brought Vincent Smith back that kind of went 385 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: out of the radar here in Freecys and all the 386 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: sub four four guys got a good size. But it's 387 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: a young group too because Mems of course, he's entering 388 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: his second professional season, his first professional off season, and 389 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna have physical games, you would think, because he's 390 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: gonna benefit from having a strength program in the NFL 391 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: strength program for the first time in his career. And 392 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: then Corey Davis comes into the equation as well. So 393 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: they definitely got better at the wide receiver position, and 394 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: they'll have more opportunities to get better at the wide 395 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: receiver position too because that draft this year, Uh, there's 396 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: no talent and what any of these teams could do 397 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: because so many that receivers could go off the board 398 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: in the top two and two to three runs. Again, Yeah, 399 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: it is a deep receiver class, and I think that's 400 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: why there have been some reports that some free agent 401 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: wide receivers that are still out there are so a 402 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: little bit of a slow moving pace because I think 403 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: a lot of players saw or a lot of people 404 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: thought the Kenny Golladays of the world, Juju Smith Schuster, 405 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: they'd be snatched up quickly. That's not been the case. 406 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: And don't kill us because we're recording. They have not signed, 407 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: they have not agreed to terms. It's his March seventeen, 408 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: at five forty five in the evening. They still don't 409 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: have a home. So if this gets posted afterwards, it's 410 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: not our fault. The other thing about Davis that and 411 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: you're write about all that that I was just thinking 412 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: about is that sometimes you think about guys who are 413 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: big bodies and and and then you say, well, they're 414 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: not necessarily good route runners. The book on Corey Davis 415 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: is a very good rob Rock, so that's sometimes uncommon 416 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: with the bigger receiver. I agree with that. 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