1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Hey, fish fans, this is Eli Sussman, the founder of 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: Fish on First. You are listening to part of a 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: megapod with Kevin Burrell and Alex Carver going through level 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: by level of the Marlins Farm system. Once they put 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: on the mic, they really couldn't stop. This was overall 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: a two and a half hour recording, but we have 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: split it up into four different parts, ascending from the 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: lowest levels of the minor league system all the way 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: up to Triple A. This is part four. Find all 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: these episodes here on the Fish on First podcast, Speed 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: lead if a, rating and review wherever applicable and enjoy. 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: So let's go to triple Like Jacksonville when we opened 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: up the season, this was by far the worst possible 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: level that anyone would watch baseball. And like it was 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: really really bad. You had in Manuel de Jesus has 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: like your starter. You have Dan Kastan on that level, 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: like it was major it was quadruple guys. You would 18 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: have thought you'd have seen Troy Johnson, Griffin Conin, and 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: Sean Reynolds. You thought maybe Yuri Perez would have been 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 2: in there, Like man, none of those guys were there. 21 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: That was the worst possible level to look at. But 22 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: now kind of the season's developed, it's kind of a 23 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: fun level to look at because our boy Troy Johnson's there, 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 2: you have Griffin Conin in there again. You have Xavier 25 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: Edwards playing like Luisa Riyaz right now. Man, you also 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 2: have jacobmi there, Anthony Maldonado, which is the first guy 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: we're gonna touch up on. Your boy, that's a pretty 28 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: fun level. For the most part, it's turned pretty fun. 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: Edward Cabrera is now on that level. Ryan Weather's there, 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: so that rotation has just been juiced up, like in 31 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: the matter of like twenty four hours. Carver, let's talk 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: with it. Let's talk Anthony Maldonadam. This is a guy 33 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: who is major league ready. He should be here. He 34 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: has closer potential. Uh, he doesn't have too much. Oh yeah, 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: well he has five stays this season, but aside from that, 36 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: their main closed with Shawn Olds. But Maldonado two two, three, 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: e RA three, twenty six fifth, fourteen point twenty k 38 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: per nine, three thirty four blocks per nine. This guy's 39 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: major league ready and maybe not this season, but next 40 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: season he's definitely gonna be competing for a for a 41 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 2: bullpen spot there. And this is just a dominant guy 42 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: who throwsy I want to see ninety four ninety five, 43 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: maybe topped out a little higher than that. Just just 44 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: a dominant reliever for for TRIVIAA Jacksonville. There's one story 45 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: that we've been very high on. 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: It's this guy. Yeah, super super good. Stuck. It stuck 47 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: to see him go down with the injury that he had. 48 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: He had that hip injury kept him out for like 49 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 3: over a month. You know, they thought he was ready 50 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: to come back into games and then like before he 51 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: even threw a pitch, the trainer saw something he had 52 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: pulled him right out. Now he's back. So he's back. 53 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: He's one hundred percent ready to go full full strength, 54 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 3: no problem. And he came back and he has been 55 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: the same guy since he's come back despite missing a month. Awesome, 56 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: awesome pitcher. This guy should be major League Baseball right 57 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: now today. Honestly, super good. I mean, look at the numbers. 58 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: One point ninety e er a, you know, she's zero 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: point eight whip Like, come on, like another guy that 60 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: needs to get the challenge. He needs to get called up. 61 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 3: He needs to be in major League Baseball. And I 62 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: think he will be down the stretch run for the Marlins. 63 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 3: He really does deserve it. So really like this player. 64 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: Really good fastball, he just said, tops out like ninety five, 65 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: ninety six. Really good slider, super good slider. That is 66 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: definitely his best pitch. I saw him the other night. 67 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: I have the video on Twitter. Actually he literally ran 68 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: through this guy on three straight sliders, no problem, like 69 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: and the last one was in the dirt and he 70 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: got the swim as, got the whip. 71 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 4: Oh two way, even a mass breaking ball in the dirt, 72 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 4: strike three. 73 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: Crazy good slider. Awesome. And then I think he also 74 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: mixes and change up as well. So great, great guy. Uh, 75 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: two plus plus pitches with the fastball in the slider, 76 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: and he can implement the changeup as well. Great pitcher. 77 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: Needs to be in Major League baseball. Deserves to be 78 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: in Major League baseball. This is next guy up for 79 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: Miami for sure on the pitching side. 80 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's stay on the reliever topic, Josh, 81 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: since since the next guy I want to talk a 82 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: little bit about. He's been a little bit of an 83 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: up and down guy this season, but for the most part, Uh, 84 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: he was considered the top thirty guy for us, he's 85 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: a forty man guy as well. I want to keep 86 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 2: that one in mind, so never know if at some point, 87 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: you know, lay down, like down the stretch, he's a 88 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: he's Miami Marlon, as you mentioned, kind of struggled this 89 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: season for for Triple A Jackson. Well, I know he 90 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: had the injury, so like five four eight e r 91 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: A four fifty five fifth, But man, he has a 92 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: nasty curveball. Man. I've seen it a couple of times 93 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: this season, you know, and it makes sense there. 94 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was super high on this guy coming into 95 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 3: this year, and then, like you said, I think the 96 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 3: injury has really thrown him off. Sucks to see, you know. 97 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: So when you see a guy like Maldonado go out 98 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: for a month and come back like nothing ever happened, 99 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: that's super encouraging. But here you see the other side 100 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: of it. You know, the guy gets hurt and then 101 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 3: it doesn't look too great after he comes back. But 102 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 3: you're right, really really good curveball, fastball is decent well lefty, 103 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: so you know there's there's room for this guy. I 104 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: think that the numbers that he's posting this year, you know, 105 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: not not to take them with a grain of salt, 106 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: But I think he's gonna bounce back from them for sure. 107 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: This guy's good. He's got good stuff. I just think 108 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: it's been a real struggle this year, this year alone 109 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 3: for him. But yeah, no, a guy that could definitely 110 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 3: contribute at some point to Miami if they need him to, 111 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: despite where the numbers are at right now. Definitely next 112 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: year I think he could attribute to Miami because left side, 113 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: like we said, curveball is really good, basketball is pretty decent. 114 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: He has a third pitch to him as well, So yeah, 115 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: another three pitch guy, another good reliever and from the 116 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 3: left handed side. And you know, the Marlins don't need 117 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: lefties right now, but maybe next year they will, so 118 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: uh So, Yeah, definitely a guy that is uh a 119 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: guy to keep in mind despite the little bit of 120 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: struggles this year. Alrighty, Xavier Edwards. 121 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: This is a guy who's been at the big league level. 122 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: I believe he's. 123 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: Still like he has not graduated from prospect deligibility, so 124 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: it's a while left to do that. So let's just 125 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: talk about Xavier Edward. 126 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: Man. 127 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: This guy played his first game of shortstopped yesterday, So 128 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: we're recording this on Friday Thursday, he played shortstop. It 129 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: was a little shaky for the most part. I watched 130 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: like one highlight wasn't even much of a highlight. He 131 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: barely made to throw the first base to Grossians to 132 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: Troy on that play. But this season, man, when he 133 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: look at the bat three sixty six, four forty five, 134 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: four seventy four with a nine to nineteen ops, he 135 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: has a one thirty seven WRC plus five homers, which 136 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: is impressive. Thirty three RBIs walks a lot, doesn't k 137 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: too much. It's been impressedive Alex. There's another way to say. 138 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: This guy should be in Miami Marland right now as well. 139 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, big leaguer for sure. I mean you just mentioned 140 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 3: the walks, the strikeouts. Forty nine walks, twenty three strikeouts. 141 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: Sorry I slided him a little bit because I was 142 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 3: looking at stolen bases, But yes, this man has only 143 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: struck out twenty three times and has forty nine walks. 144 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 3: What are we doing? Why is this guy not in Miami? 145 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: What is he doing in Triple Why is he there? Like, seriously, 146 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: there is no better example, not even Troy, and we're 147 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: gonna talk about him, but not even Troy. This is 148 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: the best example in this Marlin system of a guy 149 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: who must be in Miami to day to day, not tomorrow. 150 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: He should be here right now today. 151 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 4: Two two Kramer times gets up and. 152 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: Throw is gonna be laid six for six. 153 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,679 Speaker 2: Xavier Edwards five singles in a home run, has six 154 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: of the nineteen knocks for the Jumbo Shrimp. 155 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: There's no excuse three, three, sixty six, four forty five, 156 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: four seventy four and just the play presence is there. 157 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: Thirty one stolen basis. This is four out of five 158 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: tools for sure, maybe even five because I think he 159 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: has the arm as well. The only the only thing 160 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: that I would say is that if he is going 161 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: to be a five tool threat, like Kevin just mentioned, 162 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: power's got to come up. So he has four out 163 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: of five tools, maybe five if you can make the 164 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: power come up. Arm is definitely there. Speed's definitely there, 165 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: back to ball is definitely there. This guy is so good, ability, 166 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: hit for average, all that is there. Like, this guy 167 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: is definitely a four out of five too player that 168 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: is being wasted, wasted in triple A, and that is very, 169 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: very very disheartening to me. I know that Marlins have 170 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: issues right now. With where can you put this guy 171 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: a little bit. You brought in Jake Berger, so you 172 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: can't put him at their base Jazzis Junior is healthy, 173 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: he's in center field. Now they're putting him at shortstop. 174 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 3: You deal with the fact that this guy is not 175 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: a perfect shortstop to get that bat in your lineup 176 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: every day, you absolutely deal with that. You get him 177 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 3: in there over Joey Wendell, You get him in there 178 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: over John Birdie. Like these guys are utility players. Xavier 179 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: Edwards is a starting player. He should be a starting 180 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: player on a major league baseball team right now. 181 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: And they kind of give up with the experiment at 182 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: the center field too. He had played most of the 183 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: season there as well. Finally, man, if I'm being honest 184 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: with you, cover, I think the one reason they put 185 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: him at shortstop on Thursdays because the organization finals are realized. 186 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: Like fuck, this guy's dad is really fucking good. 187 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: We have to put it. I mean, he's not a 188 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: long term shortstop. I'll stick to that fact. 189 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: But like I said, no, yeah, I think we make 190 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: that case for sure, maybe through base but shortstop. 191 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: Ye, you deal with those shortcomings though. He can fake 192 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: it there and you, so you deal with those shortcomings. 193 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: I mean, they put Jashism Junior in centerfield with no experience. 194 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: Why can't you put Zavier Edwards, who definitely has the 195 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 3: athleticism to do it as well. Jas has the athleticism 196 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: for center field. Edwards definitely has the athleticism for shortstop. 197 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: He can do it there. You let him. You deal 198 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 3: with a little bit of shortcomings there. If they happen 199 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 3: to get his bat in the lineup because his bad, 200 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: it will translate I think I think at least it 201 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 3: will translate to be very very, very good. And when 202 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 3: he was here it was good. Like when he was 203 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: with your that was good, like yeah, for the most party, 204 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, no. 205 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: Reason for him being triplet alrighty, Jacob Maya, Uh, this 206 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: is a weird scenario here. He was very good at 207 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: the start of the year, he gets called up, he's 208 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: he wasn't very impressive nineteen WRC plus. Obviously you don't 209 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: look too much into those numbers. But he was all 210 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: right and then gets sent down and frankly, he sucked. 211 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: There's no other way to put it. Great glove, amazing glove. 212 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: He was compared to Miguel Rojas with a better bat. 213 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: Possibly that was the case of the first half of 214 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: the season. After that, he's kind of struggled. Uh, do 215 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: you think it kind of like hit him in the 216 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: cut Like it was like a confidence thing, like, Man, 217 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: I'm called up, like I'm playing shortstop for the Minau Mortals, 218 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: a major league team. Bam, get sent down. I am 219 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: now back in TRIPLEO Jacksonville. Kind of a confidence set 220 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 2: there that you were thinking because it's not like he's 221 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: doing anything differently. I think the only because like he's 222 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: still not striking out a lot, he's still walking at 223 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: a decent rate. Like, what, what's the issue here? 224 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: I don't I don't really see an issue with Maya. 225 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 3: I think he's been had a pretty solid season honestly. 226 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 3: Maybe a little culture shock, like you said, to get 227 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 3: called up and then automatically get sent back down, which 228 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: is why you don't like to see stuff like that. 229 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: But man, like look at him lately August two, ninety two, 230 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 3: three eighty six, four seventeen. I have no issues with 231 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 3: that and playing advanced shortstop. Yeah, pretty damn good man. 232 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: Can't be mad about Jacob Maya. I think this guy's 233 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: got really good back to balls, Scow He's got some 234 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 3: hitten power to him as well, and he plays a 235 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: special shortstop, so this is definitely a long term starting 236 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: shortstop that they have and mister Amaya, the Marlins are 237 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: high on him for a reason. You know, he's gotten 238 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 3: his major league call ups, so he's been there. He's 239 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 3: gotten a little taste of it. Like he said, maybe 240 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: there's a little disappointment in getting sent back down. But man, 241 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: I've liked what I've seen out of this player overall 242 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 3: this year with eleven home runs, seven to seventy five ops. 243 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 3: You know, not too much speed to him, so he's 244 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: kind of missing that ability to his game, doesn't really 245 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: have it, but his range of shortstop is still good 246 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: despite just average speed. I would say, yeah, so I 247 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: like this player I have. I have no issues with 248 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: what this player has done this year. I think he 249 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: needs to show just a little bit more in order 250 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 3: to make it, like fully known that Okay, I'm for 251 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 3: real with my bat. Bring the ops up a little 252 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: bit more, a little bit more balls and play as 253 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: we talk about with a lot of these guys. But yeah, no, 254 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: this guy has been super solid. I'm happy with Amya, 255 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: with what we've seen from him. Decent batt to ball numbers, 256 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, decent on base numbers, back to ball skills. 257 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 3: Like I said, doesn't strike out a lot. Walks are 258 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: pretty good. Forty three walks this year to eighty two, 259 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: I got. So the patience is there as well. I 260 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: like this guy a little bit. More balls and play 261 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: is what I want to see. But other than that, 262 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: I've liked what I've seen from Amaya. 263 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: I remember when they first acquired him, we said, this 264 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: is a guy who's major league ready, but still needs 265 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 2: to develop the bat. And that's the big reason why 266 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: he was sent down, because when it comes to the 267 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: glove and the defense, this guy could possibly a Gold 268 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: Glove candidate. That's how good he is, and that thing, 269 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: that's how good he can be. Obviously, we Miguel Rojas 270 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: comp came to life, obviously, and that's where the offense 271 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: kind of lacks. That's where it lacks. Obviously makes sense. 272 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: So the next time I want to talk about was 273 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: a guy who made his debut last season, Jordan Groschen's. 274 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: He came to the Anthony Pass trade. 275 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: He was pretty good in his day, you know, in 276 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: a short stint with the big league level kind of 277 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 2: struggled this year at Triple A man weremoved completely off 278 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 2: the MLB pipeline top thirty. 279 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: I believe we. 280 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: I think all of us kind of dropped him a 281 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: decent amount in our list. Still walks at a good rate, 282 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: still does not strike out too much. What's the issue here? 283 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: I think this guy disapoint is a Quadruple A guy, 284 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: and Miami does not consider him too much given the 285 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: fact that he hasn't. 286 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: Even played at the big league level. 287 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: This year, they moved in first base to see if 288 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: they could give him some type of positional flexibility. He's 289 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: also played some third I mean, what else do they 290 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: have to do? What else does this kid have to 291 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: kind of make it come up? Batsball is a big 292 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: thing why they brought him in the first place. Hasn't 293 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: really exceeded. 294 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: In that level. Just what's the issue. Yeah, that's a 295 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: lot of rollover, is what I see from this guy 296 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: at the play. It's a lot of ground ball outs 297 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: and a lot of easy ground ball outs. So the 298 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: contact consistency hasn't really struggled for this player. He's run 299 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: into a few, like you said, he has six home runs, 300 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 3: but overall, just contact consistency is not there. He does 301 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: not hit for plus contact at all, and he doesn't 302 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: really have the speed to beat out a lot of 303 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 3: like slow ground balls and stuff like that. So he 304 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: just needs to come buy a lot more contact consistency, 305 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: a lot more higher exit delos, and a lot more 306 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: line drives rather than step on the ground. One point 307 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 3: three to two ground bottle flyball ratio, so a lot 308 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: more ground balls than fly balls for this player. That's 309 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: where his struggles really are. Needs to do a much 310 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: better job at getting the better part of the battle 311 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: of the ball. That's that's his main issue. Defensively, I 312 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: think he's fine at their base, he's okay, just that 313 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 3: average that I don't think it's anything too terribly special. 314 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: And then like you said, they're trying to get him 315 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 3: some more flexibility elsewhere as well, just to kind of 316 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: kind of try to like give me take some pressure off, 317 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: you know, going to an easier position. Maybe that's what 318 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: the approach is there. Probably, So yeah, again, walks a bunch, 319 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: doesn't really strike out at an elevated rate walks for there, 320 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: so his patience is pretty good. It's just like I said, 321 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: the consistency of contact, the consistency of hard contact is 322 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: really really lacking to this player. 323 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Next player I want to talk about 324 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: is Jake Mangum. He was acquired I believe it was 325 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: Rule five. This is a guy who were we were 326 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: very very high on at the start of the season. 327 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: He got off to a great start and just for 328 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: I don't know why, but we just haven't spoken about 329 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: him anymore. Obviously, doesn't walk too much, but doesn't strike 330 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: out too much. Still hitting over three hundred, gets on 331 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: base at a nice rate, four home runs, eleven stolen basis, 332 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: thirty on RBIs one hundred WRC plus. He can play 333 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: center field, could play all three outfield spots. What else 334 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: can we add about Jake Mangum. Obviously he would make 335 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: a nice Yeah, we at some point even said he 336 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: was big league ready. I know this is the team 337 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: considered calling him up earlier in the year. I believe 338 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: that was one of the reports from the Miami Herald. 339 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: Two players that. 340 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: They were looking at with Jake Mingham and someone else. 341 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: And that's someone else I believe did end up getting 342 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: called up. I'm not quite I think it was Mangham 343 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: and Burdick. Bertie got called up at the end of 344 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: the day. So just this is a guy who I 345 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: think will definitely we'll get a big league spot in 346 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: the in spring training, he'll get a big league invite, 347 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: and just after that see how it goes for him. 348 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was around the team a lot in spring 349 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: training last year or this year, sorry, at a spring 350 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: training like he was. Yeah, and he didn't really show 351 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: much like you said on the back fields too. I 352 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: wasn't like, not really a guy that really stuck out 353 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: in game action, even as like VP, it was like, eh, 354 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: you know, it's okay, but not really any huge huge 355 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: like like not one tool didn't really stand out, you 356 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: know what I mean. That's what we could say for 357 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: spring training. But this year he's proved me and a 358 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: lot of other people wrong, because this guy's been damn 359 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: good just with his ability to put the ball and 360 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: play and find some gaps and find the you know, 361 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: holes in the field. Three eleven, three fifty eight, four 362 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: forty six, pretty damn good. Like I said, no real 363 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 3: standout tool doesn't really have standout power for home runs, 364 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: so it's not really you know, so yeah, I mean 365 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 3: some decent speed, I would say, slightly above average. I 366 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 3: mean there's seven triples, that's pretty impressive. Eleven stolen basis, 367 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: so the accountable stats there are pretty impressive. When it 368 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 3: comes to speed, definitely has some above average speed to 369 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: him as well, But like I said, I think just overall, 370 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: the ability to to find holes in the field has 371 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: really been the difference for this player. Views pitching pretty well. 372 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 3: What you would want to see the strikeout rate is manageable. 373 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: What you want to see is a couple more walks. 374 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: He's only watched twenty times, which is pretty low. But 375 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 3: if you're putting the bat on the ball and finding 376 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 3: holes in the field, that's okay. You would want to 377 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: see that come up a little bit at the Triple 378 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 3: A level though, before it translates to the majors. It's 379 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: kind of in the same light as bandfield, right, you 380 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: want to see a little bit more of that. They 381 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 3: could put the bat on the ball, but you want 382 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: to see a little bit more in terms of like 383 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: taking free passes and viewing pitching a little bit better 384 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 3: to earn your way on base a little bit easier. 385 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 3: Definitely has the chance next year to make his big 386 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: league debut. 387 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, alrighty Griffin co nine. This is a weird one. 388 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: There's a mixed up I guess, not mixed opinions about 389 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: bad or good. It's just like the positives and the 390 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: negatives ConA because for the most part, we think he's 391 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 2: a pretty good player. Obviously, I believe it's the all 392 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: time leader and home runs for the Wahoo's or a 393 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 2: single season home run leader or something like that. This 394 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 2: season he has eighteen homers with the Wall Who's last 395 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 2: year he had twenty four. The big thing is to 396 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: strike up percentage. I think that's the big thing we 397 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: look at for him and any other player, just like 398 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: gryffin Conna. That's been from the start of his career 399 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: so right now. That's been the issue this season with 400 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 2: the Wahoo's where he's played the most thirty four percent 401 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: strike out rate but a thirteen point thirty percent walk rate. 402 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: That just happens to be with the high strike out rates. 403 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: But he's hitting two fifty three, three seventy four, ninety three, 404 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 2: eight sixty four with the wa Who's one twenty seven 405 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 2: WRC plus. Obviously, this guy's just gonna mash that. I 406 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: think that's the big thing with him. If it's not 407 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: a home run, he's gonna put he's gonna hit him 408 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: into the gaps. He's gonna get you some nice RBIs 409 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: surprise he hasn't played more with the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp, 410 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: given the fact that he could be a big power 411 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 2: surge guy obviously with the right field, with the outfield there, 412 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: how how how short the walls are there. Carver talked 413 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: told us a little bit about Connin and I believe 414 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 2: he's taken more reps at left field this season or 415 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: for the most part, he's been pretty good, So no 416 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: real complaints there. He deserved to call the promotion to 417 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: TRIPAA he goes with Troy Johnson, which is the player 418 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: we'll we'll wrap up on because we're big Troy Johnston fans. 419 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. So definitely way better than last year 420 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 3: with the Waho's this year, of course you're repeating level, 421 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 3: but you know, a lot better this year for him 422 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 3: two fifty three, three, seventy four, ninety three with Pensacola. So, 423 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 3: like keV said, he earns the promotion up to Jacksonville 424 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: for sure. I would expect him to hit many more 425 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 3: bombs for the rest of this year with Jacksonville because 426 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 3: it's much easier park to hit in than Pensacola. So 427 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 3: those home runs are gonna come with Jacksonville. He's definitely 428 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 3: gonna get a ver twenty this year for sure. Again 429 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 3: too will pitch. 430 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 4: Co nine launches it high the air towards deep left. 431 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 4: Peterson going back to the track looking, oh, that baseball's gone. 432 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 4: Griffin co nine backside bomb in the bullpens and left. 433 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 3: It is great power. It is seventy great power. It's 434 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 3: that good. But man, everything else it it kind of depends. 435 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 3: It kind of kind of hinges on that strikeout right 436 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 3: that kind was just talking about. So it's permeated at 437 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: thirty five thirty four percent, hasn't really gone down much 438 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 3: level of level, and that's even I think gonna go 439 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: higher if, if, and when he gets to the big leagues. 440 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 3: So man, it's great to see the power, but you 441 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: just worry so much about a guy with a shrikeut 442 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 3: rate that high. It sucks to say it because I 443 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: know we harp on it. But man, when you're striking 444 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: out one hundred and eighty five, one hundred and eighty 445 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: three times one hundred and twenty eight this year, yeah, 446 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: it's it's it's tough. So you know, there is definitely 447 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 3: room for this guy to have a major league ceiling, 448 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 3: at least as a power bat off the bench. Maybe 449 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: you know, if he reaches this full thing, that he 450 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: could be a starting corner out builder. But man, it 451 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 3: really is going to depend on that strike er rate. 452 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 3: It needs to come down. Hasn't done it yet. He's 453 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,959 Speaker 3: gotten through it because of how good his power is. 454 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 3: But man, uh, it's it's tough to uh, it's tough 455 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 3: to uh to project that long term with the striker 456 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: rate that high. 457 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: Alrighty, I think this is the best best for last 458 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: I saved the best for last year. Our good friend 459 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: Troy Johnston. Man, I think it's simple to say it. 460 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 2: He should have been a big leaguer yesterday. He deserves 461 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: to be in triple A a lot earlier. 462 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: Than he was. 463 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 2: I think he was mishandled in terms of where they 464 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: put him this season. They cared more about your Karnacion 465 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: and Charles Leblong over him. This season. They outriding, but 466 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: they defa LeBlanc, They outrighted Carnassis. It just shows you 467 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: now how they feel. 468 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 3: But let's just both go to double and triple A. 469 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: Both stats there for double A two ninety six, three, 470 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: ninety six, five sixty seven, nine sixty three with eighteen 471 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 2: home runs, eighty three RBIs, sixteen stolen bases, and a 472 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: seventeen point one strikeout percentage eleven point two walk percentage. 473 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 2: Now in Triple A Jacksonville, he's gotten off to an 474 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: even better start. Three seventy three, four forty one, six 475 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 2: thirty nine, one point zero seventy nine with four home runs, 476 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: nineteen RBIs, two stolen bases, the walk not as much, 477 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: strike out a little higher, but that's just usual when 478 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 2: you make you adjutment to any level. Alex, this guy removed. 479 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 3: He shedded. 480 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: I believe, I want to say, ten pounds weigh fifteen. 481 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 2: He's a lot faster. He wanted to work on extra 482 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: base hits. He's definitely gotten them. I believe he has 483 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: a lot of a lot more triples than last year. 484 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 2: I've as I mentioned, he has already eighteen stolen bases 485 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: on the season. 486 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: Combining both levels. 487 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: But he hasn't lost the power, and that's the biggest thing. 488 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 2: And I know the power is something that many have doubted. 489 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 2: But right now he has twenty two home runs on 490 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: the season. Combining both he has over one hundred RBIs 491 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: this season, Alex, Like what else? 492 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: Man Like? 493 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 2: This guy should have been up here by yesterday. I 494 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: think if he's not called up this year, you need 495 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: to add him to your forty man because we've mentioned 496 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: him this many times. He is another guy once again 497 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: this year who could go in the Rule five draft, 498 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 2: And unlike last season, we are like two hundred percent 499 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: sure this guy will be going to a team. Last season, 500 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: he had interest from the Padres. I will mention that 501 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: one clearly, and I know you said at Harvard that 502 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: they had interest. 503 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 3: Other teams that interested in him just didn't. 504 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: Make the big move to get there. In Rule five, 505 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: I think he could be. He will be going to 506 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 2: a major league team. He will be on a major 507 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: league ross you come next season. If it's not with Miami, 508 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: it's with another team, Alex, Troy Johnson, the floor is yours. 509 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing else to the show. I mean, just to 510 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 3: give you guys some more stats. I put this on 511 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 3: Twitter today. But since July first, three eighty seven, four 512 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: fifty seven, six ninety seven slegan percentage ten point two, 513 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 3: walk rate, seventeen percent k rate one ninety WRC plus 514 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: nine home run seven stolen bases. What are we doing? 515 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 3: What are we doing? 516 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 2: I don't know. 517 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 3: I don't I don't. I don't know what they're doing. Like, 518 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 3: if you can't put him at first base, you can 519 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: play left field. If you can't put him in left field, 520 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: you can put him at DH. Like what why why 521 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: is there not room to get this guy time with 522 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 3: the Marlins yesterday? I think there is. I think there 523 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: definitely should be. I know the Marlins are in a 524 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 3: playoff run. I know the Marlins did bring in guys 525 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 3: at the deadline. They brought in Josh Bell. That inhibits 526 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: your ability to put him at first base. They have 527 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 3: traffic in the outfield, but they kind of don't because 528 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 3: of Vasille. Garcia is basically like not playing most of 529 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 3: the time. So yeah, like, what why why is there 530 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 3: not room to call this guy up? You have the 531 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 3: DH spot, it's available, Like, you can put him there. 532 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: You can get Celeat into the fie if you have to. 533 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: You can put Celia at the H and keep him 534 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 3: at the age H, and you can put Johnston in 535 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: the outfield. There should be room for this guy to 536 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 3: come up and get reps with the Marlins even though 537 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: they are in win. Now, I understand that they want 538 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 3: to win, they are happy with the lineup that they have, 539 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: They brought in guys at do that. I get all 540 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 3: of that, but when you have players like this, like 541 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: Edwards and Johnston who just are wasted or just being 542 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: wasted in Triple A, it's it's really tough to see 543 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 3: that these guys have nothing left to prove at all 544 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 3: in minor league baseball. And like said keV, if the 545 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 3: Marlins don't protect him by either adding him to the 546 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 3: roster now or adding him to the roster before the 547 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 3: for the deadline for Rule five, he will go to 548 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 3: another team. You mentioned the Padres. I know there were 549 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 3: also at least at least three other teams that took 550 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,239 Speaker 3: it took like a look at him, right, so I 551 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 3: know that there was interest here. It didn't happen. He 552 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 3: struggled when he got called up to Triple A last year. 553 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 3: Maybe that's a reason why was great in Double A. 554 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 3: This year, he's been nothing but great everywhere. So yeah, 555 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 3: they're gonna have ad him or they're gonna lose him. 556 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: That's pretty much. There's no doubt in my mind. I 557 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: think they will. You know what happens with with Josh 558 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 3: Bell at the end of the year. With the with 559 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 3: the player option, right, who knows? Uh so laire what 560 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 3: happens with him with the player option, who knows? So 561 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: there there would be room to get Johnston more involved 562 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: in Marlin's games. But I definitely think he will be 563 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: on the forty men roster room no matter what. Whether 564 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 3: he gets called up to player gets called it before 565 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: that deadline. I hope it's to play, but we'll see. 566 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, man, I love this guy. Like you said, keV, 567 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 3: when he was coming up, the one thing that was 568 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 3: missing was power. He added on some weight to come 569 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: by the power. Now he shed the weight, but the 570 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 3: power is still there, and he's even come by a 571 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 3: little bit more speed. He's good. He's decent in that 572 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 3: first base. He did learn that position not too long ago, 573 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, actually, he started to learn 574 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 3: that position. Been good there. He can still play the 575 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 3: outfield if you need him to. Man, there's not much 576 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 3: more can say about Troy. He's be went to the 577 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 3: organization for a long time. I'm glad that he's still around. 578 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 3: I'm glad that he's succeeding like this, and and I 579 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 3: really hope that he's with the Marlins with that MLB 580 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 3: debut patch on his jersey very very soon. If it's 581 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 3: not Edward's coming up for the toy for the roster expansions, 582 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: it's gonna be Troy Johnston and a reliever. 583 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: We think it'll be Johnson. It'll be Edwards, Slash Johnston 584 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 2: and Maldonado. That's what our predictions are. I think Carver 585 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: you wouldn't share the same sentiment there, And I think 586 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: I would also mention if Josh Bell does opt in 587 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: and Julie does end up retiring, keep in mind Yuli 588 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: Gurriel is thirty nine years old. You could just put 589 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: him at the back of first base spot. Even if 590 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: he's not playing every day. You still have the DH. 591 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: You could still play in the outfield if need be. 592 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 2: Joy Johnson would get him at backs. He would still 593 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: be on the big league squad. He would be where 594 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: he has to be true, they've used Josh Bell a 595 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: lot at the DH and they've played Yuli there, so 596 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 2: I would like to And Skip is someone who's made 597 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: this very clear. If you're on this team, and if 598 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 2: you're on my twenty six man roster, you are going 599 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 2: to play a good amount. And that's been the case, 600 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: A lot of guys have played a good amount. Alvi 601 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: Garcia has been the one exception this season that you know, 602 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: ever since his return, he's not been playing too much. 603 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 3: So we'll see. 604 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: But I think we can wrap it up here, Alex. 605 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: I mean, geez, like two hours and thirty minutes of 606 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 2: prospect talk. We may have to cut this in two, 607 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 2: but we'll see, Alex. Any anything else that we should 608 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: be adding on that we missed at any of the levels. 609 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 3: Oh man, I think we covered it pretty quickly. One 610 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 3: guy we didn't mention like when we started talking was 611 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 3: Andres Vlore. That's an Idea Cell guy that's been really good. 612 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 3: I know he was mentioned in your comments, so I 613 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 3: didn't want to leave that name out of this pod 614 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: because he's been really good. Anyways, No, I think we 615 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 3: we covered top performers and lower performers, Guys that we 616 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: want to see more from, Guys that we want to 617 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 3: see challenged and promoted. I think we covered a lot here. 618 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 3: This is fun. You know, I could talk about this 619 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 3: stuff all day, so two and a half hours ain't 620 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 3: nothing to me. So again, super proud of the work 621 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 3: and all of your knowledge with prospects that you've come 622 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 3: by here lately. The work that you've done on the 623 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 3: farm side of the website for Fish on, Fish on 624 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 3: the Farm and Fish on First is all great. So yeah, man, 625 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 3: I'm super glad to talk prospects at any time with you. 626 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 3: So jumping on this morning was super fun and yeah, 627 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 3: hope we brought some light to some names that people 628 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 3: are wondering about here in this last two and a 629 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 3: half hours. 630 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: We could probably do this one again in the off 631 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 2: season or next year, probably after the Rule five draft. 632 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 2: Well for myself from Carver. Two hours and thirty two 633 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: minutes later, we are wrapping up the pod and we 634 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: will see you guys all in the next one piece 635 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: out and go Fish