Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? What's up Batchel Nation? Welcome back to
Speaker 1: another great episode that Becca and I have in store
Speaker 1: for you today. Becca, we have so much to discuss,
Speaker 1: per usual, I feel like we're always starting the show
Speaker 1: off like that because it's the honest to god truth.
Speaker 1: We have so much to talk about. Of course, we
Speaker 1: have an amazing guest that our listeners can look forward to,
Speaker 1: and we really just hope you guys tuned in last
Speaker 1: night to listen to your heart because that is the
Speaker 1: new season that we are stepping into. We're discussing all
Speaker 1: things with the show, the contestants, the drama, the love,
Speaker 1: the excitement. I mean, if you didn't watch it last night,
Speaker 1: I honestly have no idea what it is that you're doing.
Speaker 1: Be honest, you've watched everything else. This is a new show.
Speaker 1: It's here, it's exciting, we're all home. You have nothing
Speaker 1: else to do. Stop trying to be all hard about it,
Speaker 1: like I'm not going to watch another Bachelor show because
Speaker 1: we know you want to, We're doing it. I have
Speaker 1: been so excited for this premiere because I kept saying
Speaker 1: I feel like Nation as a whole just needed something
Speaker 1: else to bring us together. You know, we don't have
Speaker 1: any other shows really to bond everyone at this moment.
Speaker 1: So if you didn't catch the two hour premiere plays,
Speaker 1: go back and watch it because it really has so
Speaker 1: many fun pieces. Of course, just like your typical Batch
Speaker 1: for Batch or at fashion, you have the love, you
Speaker 1: have the drama, you also have some music, and of
Speaker 1: course our favorite Chris Harrison, so you really get it
Speaker 1: all within listen to your heart. And I can't wait
Speaker 1: to see where the season goes because we saw a
Speaker 1: Waco down in that two hour premiere, one of my
Speaker 1: favorite things, and I can't wait to break it down
Speaker 1: because we have a very very special guest coming. I
Speaker 1: don't know about you, Rachel, but high School Becca was
Speaker 1: fan girling a little bit when we saw I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna give it away because we saw Tom Higginson from
Speaker 1: The Plain White Teas and everyone out there, you have
Speaker 1: been living under a rock if you don't know, Hey there, Delilah.
Speaker 1: That is their hit. So we saw him perform on
Speaker 1: the show. We'll have him on our podcasts a little
Speaker 1: bit later. But I just can't wait to break it down,
Speaker 1: dig deep into this new show that hopefully, like I said,
Speaker 1: we'll bring everyone together. Becca, I feel like you aged
Speaker 1: me a bit because you said high school and I'm like, actually, Becca,
Speaker 1: for me, it was college college Rachel. I was obsessed
Speaker 1: with Hey there, Delilah. I don't even want to get
Speaker 1: into it because I'm going to talk about it with
Speaker 1: our guest coming up. But I'm excited to hear what
Speaker 1: went down on that date and all the details because
Speaker 1: I feel like we didn't really get to see too
Speaker 1: much of it, which I don't know if it's telling,
Speaker 1: So hopefully Tom can give us some inside scoop. But
Speaker 1: before we jump to Mel and Matt's backyard concert, let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and get started talking about all the amazing
Speaker 1: contestants we got to meet from last night. Okay, Becca,
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but we really didn't know.
Speaker 1: We said this before, but we didn't know what to
Speaker 1: expect with Listen to Your Heart. We knew we were
Speaker 1: getting Chris Harrison. We knew these there were men and
Speaker 1: women living together. We know it's this Bachelor Pad times,
Speaker 1: Bachelor Times, American Idol type show, so we knew we
Speaker 1: were getting a hybrid. But is it just me or
Speaker 1: were you shocked that they had packages like we did
Speaker 1: on Bachelor and Bachelorette. I kind of was, But I
Speaker 1: like it because it gives us a way to get
Speaker 1: to know all the contestants a little bit more. I mean,
Speaker 1: of course, we had talked to Trevor and very last week,
Speaker 1: so we knew what to expect with them, but there's
Speaker 1: so much more of these people that we're seeing. And
Speaker 1: I like it too because it still gives you that
Speaker 1: the first night of like the Bachelor the bacheloride. Obviously
Speaker 1: they didn't pull up in limos, but it still has
Speaker 1: that feel. But I like it because I just feel
Speaker 1: like there's so much more of a variety. And I mean,
Speaker 1: I just love It's different from Paradise because when people
Speaker 1: come into Paradise, you already know them. So these people
Speaker 1: are all new, they're all fresh. You have no idea
Speaker 1: what to expect, how they're going to mesh together. And
Speaker 1: so it was kind of funny watching them all walk
Speaker 1: in and you saw more of some of the people
Speaker 1: and less of some of the people. But like even
Speaker 1: the little comments that some of the guys were making
Speaker 1: them like wait when did you come in? Like where
Speaker 1: did you pop about? Of so I can't wait to
Speaker 1: get in more. But Let's let's get into some of
Speaker 1: the people that we did meet. So obviously we spoke
Speaker 1: with Trevor and Bree last week. Trevor is the one
Speaker 1: who says he's never dated a musician, but he also
Speaker 1: wants to live on the tour bus. And now he's
Speaker 1: the one who maybe America has seen before on American Idol, Right,
Speaker 1: so I feel like he comes in with a little
Speaker 1: bit of an edge. He's done Reality TV. That Reality
Speaker 1: TV show was a singing show. So a part of
Speaker 1: me is like, Okay, maybe Trevor might know a little
Speaker 1: bit of what he's doing, what's going on here. He's
Speaker 1: more of the experienced one. But then he seems so
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we talked to him, so we got
Speaker 1: to know him a little bit better, but even just
Speaker 1: from his package, he seems very humble, down to earth,
Speaker 1: you know. Dare I say it, Becca here for the
Speaker 1: right reasons, I would agree. He also seems and you
Speaker 1: say it, like, you know, he should have some experience
Speaker 1: in the TV world, but he kind of seems a
Speaker 1: little bashville like, more more timid, which I kind of
Speaker 1: find endearing. Yeah, and maybe his experience for American Idol
Speaker 1: did it he's twenty nine, I believe, so maybe age
Speaker 1: as well. He just doesn't seem to be caught up
Speaker 1: in the fact that he's on a TV show, just
Speaker 1: he's there with a purpose. Same with Brie. We talked
Speaker 1: to Brie. Brie comes from a big family, She's from Provo.
Speaker 1: We know that she was recently engaged called it off
Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, so I feel like
Speaker 1: she's She's very open to the experience and what it
Speaker 1: could be about, but is definitely I felt like she
Speaker 1: wants to find love as well. I think for those
Speaker 1: first two they seem mature. They I feel like they
Speaker 1: are going into it kind of knowing what they're looking
Speaker 1: for in a partner they have. From what I'm seeing,
Speaker 1: they seem like they have a good head on their shoulders.
Speaker 1: I do want to get into And I know we
Speaker 1: didn't see an intro package for Jamie, but she was
Speaker 1: the first one to come to the mansion and Jamie
Speaker 1: fresh out of the what do they pull up in
Speaker 1: and Suv. I was gonna say, Minivan that that's not right,
Speaker 1: but she was just like so full of life and
Speaker 1: like Spunky and I have a list of notes, and
Speaker 1: she just seemed kind of quirky and fun. But she
Speaker 1: kept saying the first night like I don't want drama.
Speaker 1: I don't want drama. And what's going through my mind
Speaker 1: is like, girl, you sign up for a reality TV show,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get that drama which we see go down later,
Speaker 1: which we will of course get into. But just from
Speaker 1: the intro packages is I want to ask you this
Speaker 1: because I have one of my favorites of who we saw,
Speaker 1: and I want to know who yours was, too. Um Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you my favorite. First was going to say
Speaker 1: about Jamie. Two things I noticed about Jamie She's I
Speaker 1: agree with everything that you said. Also, she is clearly
Speaker 1: a fan of the Bachelor. I just felt like she
Speaker 1: knew she's good TV. She's she's fun to watch, she's
Speaker 1: very into it, she's exciting. But I also was like
Speaker 1: she's a fan of the Bachelor's. She was just her
Speaker 1: excitement level was on another level. She was just happy
Speaker 1: to be there. You know. But m Jamie might be
Speaker 1: one of my favorites, But are you talking about my
Speaker 1: favorites from all twenty contestants or from the packages that
Speaker 1: we saw. Let's start with packages and then let's do
Speaker 1: all twenty contestants too. Oh okay, So honestly, my favorite
Speaker 1: from the packages was brief. Okay, I'm really a brief fan.
Speaker 1: I'm a brief fan too, especially after talking to her.
Speaker 1: But she just seems like an all her own good person.
Speaker 1: But I have to say, and I'm not just saying
Speaker 1: this because it's my namesake, but Becca seems like such
Speaker 1: a little like I mean, she called herself a theater nerd,
Speaker 1: but she just seems so quirky and watching her package
Speaker 1: of like her doing like the little side tap dance
Speaker 1: across and like doing the musical theater. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: like her, and I feel like we didn't see too
Speaker 1: much of her the rest of the episode. But uh,
Speaker 1: I'm a Becca fan. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: When you said Becca, I had to look down at
Speaker 1: my notes to try to think who was Becca? Well,
Speaker 1: and you don't see too much of her in the
Speaker 1: rest of the episode. I was really excited when I
Speaker 1: saw her intro package, and then I think there was
Speaker 1: so much more that took place that they just didn't
Speaker 1: get enough of her because of, you know, all of
Speaker 1: the other little drama that was going down. But but
Speaker 1: I did want to see more of her. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: now you've sparked my interest. I feel like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to pay attention to her next episode. I really
Speaker 1: like Sheridan because there was no one else like him. Also,
Speaker 1: he lives in Texas. I'm from Texas. He used to
Speaker 1: live in Austin. I love that he lives in his
Speaker 1: car and he has named his car. I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of naming cars as well. Is car's name Sheila. I
Speaker 1: want to I want to have him on the podcast
Speaker 1: to see how he came up with that name. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, she loves a song, so maybe maybe, but
Speaker 1: it's not it's not his genre of music. It's ready
Speaker 1: but Ready for the world you should listen to. It's like, oh, Sheila,
Speaker 1: it's a very good song. But he stood out to
Speaker 1: me he was different, So I was like, okay, like
Speaker 1: he's a different type of character we're gonna get, but
Speaker 1: a necessary character for a singing show. Um. I mean
Speaker 1: other packages we saw what no, no, no? What should
Speaker 1: take on Savannah? What is your take on so Savannah?
Speaker 1: I okay, let me see what I have. So for
Speaker 1: my notes for Savannah, I put she seems sassy and
Speaker 1: going in that was polite? Um, what did she say
Speaker 1: that she gets her way with guys though, which I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: but I feel like there's gonna be Um. I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's gonna be some drama down the road
Speaker 1: with her, but I feel like she I cannot hold
Speaker 1: her own and keep people in her in their place.
Speaker 1: I just am more like, do you hear yourself talking
Speaker 1: talking about the way men react to you? Do you
Speaker 1: do you hear yourself? I mean, just the level the
Speaker 1: lack of self awareness that she has in speaking about
Speaker 1: herself and how men are attracted to her and how
Speaker 1: she deals with them and handles them. It was just
Speaker 1: a little too much and it was off putting for me.
Speaker 1: So I wasn't as into Savannah Brandon. Let me let
Speaker 1: me take weight, like, let me make sure I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the right guy for Brandon. Where is he? Why?
Speaker 1: Okay Brandon? He was yeah, match on the same level person, Brandon.
Speaker 1: I kept getting let me pull up the face cards too.
Speaker 1: But it was between Brandon Trevor, and then who's the
Speaker 1: other guy, Michael Todd who we need to get into
Speaker 1: Michael Todd. In a little bit between between those three,
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't keep who is who's straight? No, Trevor,
Speaker 1: I got, but Brandon and Michael Todd. I could say that,
Speaker 1: but Michael Todd. If there was a jet on the show,
Speaker 1: it would be Michael Todd. That's what I kept thinking. No,
Speaker 1: you think they're alike. If there was anybody who was there,
Speaker 1: he said, I'm on a singing show. I'm here to
Speaker 1: be discovered. Let me sing every chance I can get,
Speaker 1: let me play my instrument. Let me also let them
Speaker 1: know why I am a songwriter. That was Michael Todd.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at his look. Just look down at
Speaker 1: your notes and look at his shots. His head shot. No,
Speaker 1: Rachel as I was, so I rewatched it again, um,
Speaker 1: just so I could make sure I have everything straight.
Speaker 1: But I was looking at his head shot and I
Speaker 1: was like, this is the one that they picked for him.
Speaker 1: But we just gotta fast forward through the interpackage because
Speaker 1: he probably was like, I need to see all five shots.
Speaker 1: That's the one that I'm going with. That's why you
Speaker 1: would have ever picked it. We have to post this
Speaker 1: just so. I don't know if our listener can see
Speaker 1: this somehow, but we'll show you guys one day. Fast
Speaker 1: forward to Michael Todd's first interaction. It was actually with Savannah,
Speaker 1: and I was literally coiling into my couch, like, oh,
Speaker 1: this conversation is so terrible. The moment when he looks
Speaker 1: at Savannah and they're sitting there and he goes, I
Speaker 1: like your lips. I'm like, uh no, we've all been.
Speaker 1: We've all been that girl to have some awkward guy
Speaker 1: at some point in time. Stare at us and Mike, Oh,
Speaker 1: you have nice lips, and I'm like, oh, that doesn't
Speaker 1: work for anyone. Don't do it. And she just sits there,
Speaker 1: and that's maybe that's the moment where I kind of
Speaker 1: liked Savannah because she she just sat there and she
Speaker 1: was like thank you, Like she didn't play into it.
Speaker 1: It was just so awkward and so cringe worthy. And
Speaker 1: I lived for that moment. But in my notes, when
Speaker 1: I have Michael Todd's name just circled and X after
Speaker 1: that conversation and X through his name, I was like
Speaker 1: he I mean, I didn't even need him to open
Speaker 1: his mouth and speak. I got who Michael Todd was
Speaker 1: from the moment we saw him step out of that SUV.
Speaker 1: I was like, nop, got your number. No, exactly who
Speaker 1: you are. He reminds me so much of some actor
Speaker 1: and I can't think of who. So if anyone out
Speaker 1: there's listening who you can pinpoint it, please send it
Speaker 1: my way, because it is bothering me so much. You
Speaker 1: know what I liked too about just when they all
Speaker 1: got together and as people were coming out of their
Speaker 1: SUV's meeting Chris Harrison, well, wait, who was it who
Speaker 1: said the guy's name is Chris? I think it was Matt,
Speaker 1: who was like, is Chris right, Chris? What? And he's
Speaker 1: like Hansen. I was like, oh, you're all there, Matt?
Speaker 1: How freaking refreshing? Was it that? Because like, I feel
Speaker 1: like a stick on the Bachelor Bachelorette is I haven't
Speaker 1: really watched any seasons. I haven't. It's cool to say that,
Speaker 1: and then usually when somebody says that they have watched
Speaker 1: it hm. So I thought it was it's nice that
Speaker 1: these people are kind of like, yeah, the guy looks familiar.
Speaker 1: I think his name starts with a ce, Chris, there's
Speaker 1: an h in there. It was like, Okay, these people are,
Speaker 1: you know, here to meet somebody, here to sing, here
Speaker 1: to make music, make some love, and you know, I
Speaker 1: mean I think it was Trevor who even talked about
Speaker 1: from the jump a star is born, and I thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what we're going to get here. Yeah, I will
Speaker 1: say seeing them all together once, all twenty of them
Speaker 1: were in the same room, it didn't of course, it
Speaker 1: was their night one, it was their first time media
Speaker 1: and everyone, and of course you go in with hopes
Speaker 1: to find love and have a connection. But it just
Speaker 1: seemed less bouchel esque in that regard and more just
Speaker 1: a party. I think I think the last guy, I
Speaker 1: think it was Brandon who walked in. He's like, I'm
Speaker 1: the last guy and I've just walked into this great
Speaker 1: party and I've missed half of it. But it seemed
Speaker 1: much more chill than your typical night one on the
Speaker 1: Boucher Boucherette. Okay, Becca, you know how we do it.
Speaker 1: We could keep going on and on and on talking
Speaker 1: about that, and we will. You guys, don't worry, but
Speaker 1: we have to take a much needed break because it's
Speaker 1: the moment that we've all been waiting for. It's finally come.
Speaker 1: We have our special guest on Bachelor Happy Hour today.
Speaker 1: Tom Higginson from Plain Whyte's is joining us now on
Speaker 1: the show Tom, What's up? What's up? Hello? Hello? How
Speaker 1: are you we're doing? Telling us I'm really good? Are
Speaker 1: you in your closet? By the way, we are, we
Speaker 1: are so it's where we get the best sound quality.
Speaker 1: Some people have accused us of wanting to show off
Speaker 1: our clothes. It's not the case. It's our it's our
Speaker 1: recording studio. Yeah, that's good organized than my closet. So
Speaker 1: that's good. Good for you guys. This is a new thing.
Speaker 1: When I knew that we were we you know, couldn't
Speaker 1: be traveling for the podcast and had to be doing
Speaker 1: it at home, I'm like, I gotta clean this baby out.
Speaker 1: So gave me a good excuse, and now you're getting
Speaker 1: an insight into our personalities. One of us cleaned up
Speaker 1: and the other was like, mah, so well one day
Speaker 1: more like you. I'm a procrastinator, so I haven't done
Speaker 1: like anything. I've got a list of things that I
Speaker 1: want to do with this, like quarantine, and I haven't
Speaker 1: done anything. So yeah, how are you doing in the quarantine?
Speaker 1: Are you safe as your family safe friends? I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: knock on wood, you know, everything's good so far, everybody's healthy.
Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm doing okay. It's weird for me because
Speaker 1: obviously being in the band, we're traveling NonStop, whether it's touring,
Speaker 1: playing shows, going to write with friends and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of like an adjustment to just
Speaker 1: be in one place for a while. But it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of nice that I get to be home. I
Speaker 1: have a ten year old son, so to get to
Speaker 1: hang with him all the time. It's a bummer. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen like my parents or anything because they're you know,
Speaker 1: obviously doing their own quarantine thing. But we've I've been
Speaker 1: facetiming every day with them, facetiming with my grandparents. So
Speaker 1: it's it's weird that like everybody has to be separated,
Speaker 1: but yet we're still like kind of more together than
Speaker 1: ever in a weird way. Yeah, it really is connecting
Speaker 1: people in a different aspect. I mean, you know, before this,
Speaker 1: because I live out of state, I don't live by
Speaker 1: my family anymore, and I would probably call my mom
Speaker 1: at least once, maybe twice a week. But now it's
Speaker 1: like every other day we're face timing, and so it's
Speaker 1: just bringing everyone together in a different way. Are you
Speaker 1: still singing, songwriting, doing all of that. So I've been
Speaker 1: doing a lot of I've been going live on Instagram
Speaker 1: like every few days, you know, and just kind of
Speaker 1: touching base. I've got obviously, I've got the Plain White
Speaker 1: Teas and then I've got a record label that I
Speaker 1: started called Humans We're Here, So between the artists on
Speaker 1: that label and then calling the Plain White Teas guys,
Speaker 1: we've been doing you know, I feel like to keep
Speaker 1: fans connected, just doing things like that, going live on Instagram,
Speaker 1: posting you know, just what you're doing, and having that
Speaker 1: little face to face well I guess it's not face
Speaker 1: to face, but face to texts or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: There goa is important right now, and that's kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, all you can do to stay in touch.
Speaker 1: We were supposed to be on tour in the UK
Speaker 1: during this time, and obviously that got canceled. We're getting
Speaker 1: everything canceled, so yeah, you gotta just be creative and
Speaker 1: find ways to stay connected with people. I haven't really
Speaker 1: been writing. I wrote a little bit the other day,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know that. Like I said, that's
Speaker 1: on my list that I'm going to get potentially, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm holding the bars so high. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, when these artists come out of this quarantine,
Speaker 1: I can't wait for the music, the fashion that I
Speaker 1: just I'm so excited because I feel like you guys
Speaker 1: are going to be inspired on another level. But speaking
Speaker 1: of were transitioning, I guess from music to TV. You
Speaker 1: know we're talking to you because you were on Listen
Speaker 1: to your Heart. We see you on this episode or
Speaker 1: we saw you last night on the episode. I guess
Speaker 1: I want to start off with have you ever done
Speaker 1: reality TV before? So our guitar player Tim, he actually
Speaker 1: was on a a reality show called Ready for Love
Speaker 1: and it was so he actually familiar. Yeah you know what.
Speaker 1: I think it got like canceled after like three episodes
Speaker 1: or something, but he met he actually met his wife
Speaker 1: on the show and they have two kids now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you believe in it. I do. I believe in it.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't really want I don't watch any TV,
Speaker 1: to be fair, but I think that's my one um
Speaker 1: experience with the dating reality shows and it worked for
Speaker 1: my buddy Tim, so pretty cool and we got to
Speaker 1: play on that show as well, So you know, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of like a veteran playing for these uh love reality?
Speaker 1: Do you so when you make these appearances on the shows?
Speaker 1: You know, we saw you for a little bit. I'll
Speaker 1: listen to your heart. Do you get more nervous knowing
Speaker 1: that it's going to be filmed or is it kind
Speaker 1: of just the same feeling that you would go into
Speaker 1: for any performance. I tell you what, when something is
Speaker 1: taped for live, that's when I get kind of nervous
Speaker 1: because it's like, oh boy, I can't screw up. This
Speaker 1: is live, this is going out there. Um. But this
Speaker 1: was obviously taped a few months back, you know, so
Speaker 1: it was just kind of fun. I didn't really get nervous,
Speaker 1: you know. And they had it. They had it. The setup,
Speaker 1: I know you guys saw it. But the setup was
Speaker 1: really cool, kind of like an outdoor party, just people
Speaker 1: kind of sitting around. It was a very chill vibe.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we weren't weren't too nervous. It's cool, very
Speaker 1: It seemed very intimate and like you said, just chill, relaxed.
Speaker 1: So I'm jolous. We weren't there. Yeah, well listen, you
Speaker 1: thought you were just going to be interviewed, and you are.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, we kind of needs you
Speaker 1: as the third co host at this point because in
Speaker 1: the episode we didn't get to see that much of
Speaker 1: the date, but you were there for the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and so we need the inside scoop about Mel and
Speaker 1: Matt that were on this date. So of course we
Speaker 1: want to know what your experience was like, but we
Speaker 1: also need to know what was up with that date
Speaker 1: because we didn't see anything honestly other than you. We
Speaker 1: saw you form, but we didn't see their interaction. Like
Speaker 1: we were on stage and you know, we did our
Speaker 1: little sound check and everything, and then they brought the
Speaker 1: couple in and they were there and we played our
Speaker 1: set and then they came up a little bit with
Speaker 1: us and everything, you know, was super cool. We got
Speaker 1: to talk to them for a second, but then they
Speaker 1: ushered us out pretty quick, so it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: they had their their date moment. But we were kind
Speaker 1: of like trying to like peek in, trying to see
Speaker 1: what was going on. But they were like yeah, cool,
Speaker 1: good job. Guys, like no, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well and
Speaker 1: after that date, both both parties involved, they were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there wasn't too much chemistry. So I was going to
Speaker 1: ask you watching them, I mean did you feel that
Speaker 1: or wasn't so quick? They were like, ah, didn't feel anything. Well,
Speaker 1: it's tough because it's like they had just that was
Speaker 1: like their first date or whatever. So I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's a weird, weird concept. And like I said, I
Speaker 1: my buddy Tim did it with this his reality show.
Speaker 1: But like just to have to meet somebody, go on
Speaker 1: this awkward date and have the whole thing be filmed
Speaker 1: and like just know in the back of your mind
Speaker 1: that like, oh cool, millions of people are going to
Speaker 1: see this, Like I feel like you'd be so kind
Speaker 1: of self conscious that how would you actually like let
Speaker 1: yourself like be vulnerable enough to like actually get to
Speaker 1: know somebody or actually having some real moments. It's weird.
Speaker 1: It's a weird concept. So yeah, I don't know that
Speaker 1: I that I necessarily could tell if they were like
Speaker 1: clicking or not, because knowing that it was like their
Speaker 1: first date, I was like, oh, well, who knows you know? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I tell you. I don't know if you know this,
Speaker 1: but we're like your bandmate, I met my husband now
Speaker 1: husband on The Bachelor three years ago. Yes, and Becca's
Speaker 1: engaged to her guys, So it's like two years at
Speaker 1: this point, right, so we're yeah, yeah, yeah and real
Speaker 1: it works. And I will say my first like with
Speaker 1: my now fiance, his name is Garrett, with on my
Speaker 1: first date with him, we actually were surprised with a
Speaker 1: country concert that night, so luckily we had the day
Speaker 1: to spend it together. But that night we walked into
Speaker 1: this room and it was kind of it was it
Speaker 1: was a smaller concert setting too. It is very dark,
Speaker 1: very intimate. But I think it depends on the person
Speaker 1: because with Garrett, I felt so open, so comfortable, like
Speaker 1: we had the best time at that concert, just dancing
Speaker 1: and kissing. But I will say that had it been
Speaker 1: in anyone else that you maybe don't have chemistry with,
Speaker 1: it would have been so awkward totally. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: can kind of see where they were coming from where
Speaker 1: they're like there was like, yeah, not too much chemistry
Speaker 1: and if they obviously they've never been on a TV
Speaker 1: show before, so they didn't know what to expect. But
Speaker 1: but Tom, I want to get into a little bit
Speaker 1: of background about you and how you got started in music. Really,
Speaker 1: so we know that you and your bandmates had started
Speaker 1: putting my teas in high school. Correct, So what's the
Speaker 1: secret to stay I feel like it's like a relationship obviously,
Speaker 1: what's the secret to staying together and keeping that that
Speaker 1: musical chemistry alive? Wow? Um, well, you know it's funny.
Speaker 1: We're all like really good dudes that like each other,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like we've had our ups and downs,
Speaker 1: and there actually have been a couple little like mis
Speaker 1: fighty like have to break up the band members. Like
Speaker 1: through the years, there's been some crazy times, especially in
Speaker 1: the early days when we were traveling around in like
Speaker 1: a van together and we used to tour like three
Speaker 1: hundred days out of the year in a van, so
Speaker 1: there wasn't like you couldn't escape if you were like
Speaker 1: fisted at somebody or like annoyed with somebody you were
Speaker 1: you had to be like three feet from them at
Speaker 1: all times. Anyway, you couldn't. Like Dan not a bus.
Speaker 1: I was like, I thought, maybe he maybe he made
Speaker 1: a mistake when he said at the first time. Then
Speaker 1: he said it again, and see now it's a little
Speaker 1: easier because now we have a bus. So now it's like, cool, dude,
Speaker 1: that guy's being a jerk, Like, well, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: go in the back lounge and hang out whatever. I
Speaker 1: don't need to see him for a few hours. But yeah,
Speaker 1: back then it was in the van, so you're like
Speaker 1: he's in the bench, like right next to you, and
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, you know, so that was really rock
Speaker 1: in the way. But yeah, in general, I just think
Speaker 1: we're all we all are like brothers. You know. It's
Speaker 1: like we fight sometimes, but we all deep down love
Speaker 1: each other, have a lot of respect for each other.
Speaker 1: And I think musically as well, same thing. You know,
Speaker 1: It's like we all definitely have our different opinions and
Speaker 1: sometimes we'll argue when we're putting songs together and stuff.
Speaker 1: But in the end, it's like, well, I know they're
Speaker 1: you know, like they're giving their opinion that they really believe.
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm gonna even though I don't think
Speaker 1: that's necessarily what I would have done, I'm going to
Speaker 1: listen to that, and we all just kind of compromise
Speaker 1: and you know, just kind of make it, make the
Speaker 1: decisions as a unit, and then put it out there
Speaker 1: and wish for the best. Yeah. I mean it's a
Speaker 1: testament to you guys and why you're still together. I'm
Speaker 1: interested in this because obviously Listen to Your Heart is
Speaker 1: about love, but it's also about music and coming together
Speaker 1: and making love and making music. One thing we kept hearing,
Speaker 1: at least in this first episode was the musicians were
Speaker 1: saying that, oh, I've never dated a musician and before
Speaker 1: I've never dated it. But both the guys and the girls,
Speaker 1: So have you ever dated a musician before? Is this
Speaker 1: a thing? You know? I don't know. I did go
Speaker 1: on a date with this one girl that was a
Speaker 1: singer and she was super cool, but it's very difficult.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. Here's why you don't date a musician
Speaker 1: because we're always traveling around and we're all we were
Speaker 1: never in one we're never quarantined in one place set
Speaker 1: for a long time, you know. So it's like it's
Speaker 1: very difficult. Like I could meet somebody on the road
Speaker 1: and be like, oh my god, that girl was so
Speaker 1: amazing and you know, text her for the next week,
Speaker 1: but like, just because of the ever changing lifestyle, like
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to really take that seriously or really
Speaker 1: keep that going because even if you did have a
Speaker 1: real connection or did have like something serious, it's like
Speaker 1: there's just so much going on, and you know, you're
Speaker 1: not going to see that person for what at least months,
Speaker 1: you know from now they even see her for a
Speaker 1: second time to see if, oh, maybe there was a
Speaker 1: connection or maybe there wasn't. So yeah, very difficult unless
Speaker 1: you find most of the girls that I would that
Speaker 1: I date or like have dated, have been either in California,
Speaker 1: where obviously we spend a lot of time, or Chicago,
Speaker 1: which is where I live and where I'm from. So
Speaker 1: you know, when you meet people on the road, even
Speaker 1: though they are amazing and they could be perfect for you,
Speaker 1: you never really get the chance to explore that and really,
Speaker 1: you know, to see if it works out. What about groupies, Um, well,
Speaker 1: you know you don't. Well you know band aids, band
Speaker 1: aids what they're called. I haven't seen Almost Famous. Have
Speaker 1: you seen that movie? It's so good? What do you think? Okay, so,
Speaker 1: if you had your significant other in your actual band,
Speaker 1: do you think that would work out in that way
Speaker 1: or would that just be too much time together? I
Speaker 1: mean so one of the one of the artists on
Speaker 1: my label is this duet group called Fairview. They're a
Speaker 1: duo and their boyfriend girlfriend, and it's very interesting to
Speaker 1: see their dynamic because it's like, man, if they broke up,
Speaker 1: or if they're in a fight, or if they're going
Speaker 1: through something like you kind of can't help but see
Speaker 1: it in like the songs they're writing or the live performance.
Speaker 1: You know, it's so it's weird, that dynamic. I can't
Speaker 1: imagine it. You know, no doubt that band, Gwen and
Speaker 1: the bass player were dating when they first formed, and
Speaker 1: somehow they broke up and they stayed together and they
Speaker 1: like obviously became amazing, no doubt. But I can't imagine.
Speaker 1: I've had some friends. Another buddy of mine was in
Speaker 1: a band with his girlfriend and she ended up leaving
Speaker 1: him for the band's manager, which was so seazy and
Speaker 1: so shady. Yeah yeah, so man, dating somebody in the band,
Speaker 1: it was, that's a whole new dynamic. I don't think
Speaker 1: I could I can handle that one. Yeah, yes, I
Speaker 1: think like Fleetwood Mac And so I'm like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: like totally break up, you date somebody else, you know,
Speaker 1: you're kind of all in the mix together. It just
Speaker 1: makes for a good album. Selfishly selfish, Yeah, true, there's
Speaker 1: plenty of drama to write about. I guess right, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it would. I feel like that could keep the creative
Speaker 1: juices flowing, for sure, that's true. No, Tom, I want
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not the only one who needs
Speaker 1: to ask this and needs to get to know this
Speaker 1: person a little bit more. But one of the most
Speaker 1: popular songs out there. I mean it came out when
Speaker 1: I was I think in high school still and I
Speaker 1: still listen to it to this day. Obviously, hay there Delilah.
Speaker 1: Now we need to know who is Delilah. So first
Speaker 1: of all, I don't know if you guys have seen this,
Speaker 1: but there's been this new wave of hay there Delilah,
Speaker 1: all these like people writing like the Hey They're Corona,
Speaker 1: or just songs about Delilah like TikTok. It's like trending
Speaker 1: on TikTok right now. I don't know how, but it's crazy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the actual song is based on an actual girl,
Speaker 1: a girl that I met. She she was She's actually
Speaker 1: from Chicago. So I met her in Chicago and she
Speaker 1: was friends of a friend I was gonna. I was
Speaker 1: hanging out with my one friend Kim, and she was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: my friend Delilah is going back to school tomorrow. She's
Speaker 1: got nothing to do. Can she come? We were going
Speaker 1: to a concert, like, can she come to the concert
Speaker 1: with us? Like, yeah, sure. So we picked this girl
Speaker 1: up and as soon as she walked out her door,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh my god, so beautiful. And so
Speaker 1: she had a boyfriend. So the whole night I'm just
Speaker 1: being goofy, like I know, there's nothing, nothing really gonna
Speaker 1: happen there. So I'm just like just being like I
Speaker 1: don't have any game. I'm just like a goofball. So
Speaker 1: I'm just like being funny or trying to make her
Speaker 1: laugh or whatever. And so when we dropped her off
Speaker 1: that night, I gave her our CD that we had
Speaker 1: out at the time, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I've got a song about you. And she's like, oh cool,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, and she left and I'm just that
Speaker 1: was my my brilliant line, right, And so then she
Speaker 1: went back to school in New York the next day
Speaker 1: and we kept in touch a little bit on Aim.
Speaker 1: Do you guys have any idea about it? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. So we kept in touch on Aim and
Speaker 1: she would like like she was like loving the CD
Speaker 1: that I gave her of my songs, you know, our
Speaker 1: our song for our album before the one with Hayter
Speaker 1: Delilah obviously, and she was like she kept asking me, so,
Speaker 1: where's my song? When do I get to hear my song?
Speaker 1: And so and it was it was always just super innocent,
Speaker 1: but it was just gave me that little dose of
Speaker 1: like inspiration that I needed. It was like, oh, damn,
Speaker 1: I I guess I do have to write this song
Speaker 1: for her, you know, I do. I do have to
Speaker 1: write her a song, and um, so that's kind of it.
Speaker 1: And so the first couple of lines of the song
Speaker 1: came out of me really quick and easily. You know,
Speaker 1: what's it like in New York City tonight? You look
Speaker 1: so pretty? You know? And then after I got past
Speaker 1: like that first verse, I was like, well, that pretty
Speaker 1: much sums up everything I know about this. So I
Speaker 1: had to kind of imagine the rest of it, Like
Speaker 1: if I was in this long distance relationship with somebody,
Speaker 1: what would I want to say? You know, someday I'll
Speaker 1: pay the bills with this guitar and you know, our
Speaker 1: friends will make fun of us and they don't get
Speaker 1: it and blah blah blah. And you know, so I
Speaker 1: kind of wrote the rest of it basically having to
Speaker 1: be a little bit more creative and think about if
Speaker 1: I wasn't, you know, in a relationship with somebody, and
Speaker 1: so then yeah, that was kind of the that's basically
Speaker 1: the whole story. I did make a joke with her though,
Speaker 1: when I first, you know, obviously admitted to her, Okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't write a song yet, but I'm going to
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be the best song I write, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna get us famous, and you're gonna be my
Speaker 1: date for the Grammys. And I said all that before
Speaker 1: you know, a note of the song was written, and
Speaker 1: so sure enough, it's I don't know if it's the
Speaker 1: best song I've written, but it's definitely the most famous,
Speaker 1: and you know, got play late Keys on the Map
Speaker 1: and we ended up getting two Grammy nominations for that song.
Speaker 1: And so through the years, as the song came out,
Speaker 1: Delilah would come to shows and she'd be really cool
Speaker 1: and supportive about it. Like literally, we'd play in New
Speaker 1: York and she'd come and she'd we'd be like hanging
Speaker 1: out at the merch table after the show and like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, thanks for coming. She's I'm like, where's
Speaker 1: your where's your dude? Whe's your boyfriend? He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's waiting outside. He didn't want to he didn't want
Speaker 1: to come in, but he like like so he like
Speaker 1: half supported her, but was half like no, screw that.
Speaker 1: You know, like course pretty funny. Um, but yeah, she
Speaker 1: was real supportive and cool and everything and so um.
Speaker 1: So when we got nominated for the Grammys, I hadn't
Speaker 1: spoken to her for a few months. You know, we'd
Speaker 1: kind of check in every once in a while, especially
Speaker 1: as the song was like blowing up. You know, we
Speaker 1: kind of had had some funny texts going back and forth,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I heard it at this place or
Speaker 1: you know, some cool stuff like that. Um. And so
Speaker 1: when when we got nominated for the Grammys, I called
Speaker 1: her up and I was like, hey, I just got
Speaker 1: nominated for two Grammys. I'm like, remember when I, you know, wrote,
Speaker 1: before I wrote the song, I said you'd be my
Speaker 1: date for the Grammys. I'm like, well, you got it.
Speaker 1: You gotta common and she's like, well, actually me and
Speaker 1: my boyfriend just broke up. Yeah. So I was like,
Speaker 1: and I'd been in a relationship with somebody and I
Speaker 1: was single at that time too, so I was like,
Speaker 1: whoa is this going to happen? This is like four
Speaker 1: years later or something after meeting her and writing the song, Like,
Speaker 1: is this going to happen like four years later after
Speaker 1: the song it's like a big hit and all this stuff,
Speaker 1: And it was like a moment of time where it
Speaker 1: was like it just kind of was too weird to
Speaker 1: be to be true, you know. And so by the
Speaker 1: time the Grammys actually happened, like two months later, she
Speaker 1: was back with her boyfriend. I was back with my girlfriend,
Speaker 1: but we still went to the Grammys together and you know,
Speaker 1: kind of shared the fun of it. It was like
Speaker 1: a very platonic night, but it was it was fun.
Speaker 1: It was like the prophecy had fulfilled itself, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So do you still stay in touch with her to
Speaker 1: this day? Um? You know what, I haven't really talked
Speaker 1: to her lately. I did this. I was doing this,
Speaker 1: um this live interview or something on TV in New York.
Speaker 1: We when we put our last album out, Parallel Universe,
Speaker 1: they White Tease. We did a bunch of press in
Speaker 1: New York and this was just maybe last summer or something,
Speaker 1: and and somebody had said that, like, oh, when's the
Speaker 1: last time you talked to Delilah? And I said, oh, man,
Speaker 1: it's been a while, and they said, well, why don't
Speaker 1: you text her right now? And so on the live interview,
Speaker 1: I like, okay, took up my phone and I just
Speaker 1: texted her, Hey, there no and I sent it and
Speaker 1: she didn't write back. Oh I know, I know. But
Speaker 1: to be fair, that was kind of like a cheesy
Speaker 1: ass text. But still it's like the three am you up? Text? Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly it is. I have to tell you, Tom, this
Speaker 1: is disappointing because at the time, at the time the
Speaker 1: song came out, I was living in New York City
Speaker 1: and you couldn't tell me. I wasn't Delilah. I was
Speaker 1: bad to everybody. I was like, just like singing the
Speaker 1: song Delilah might as well have been Rachel. It was
Speaker 1: my theme song. I had an internship and so it
Speaker 1: was for that whole summer. It was like my theme song.
Speaker 1: So it resonates with me, just like Begast High school.
Speaker 1: For me, it's like a college experience and it's it's
Speaker 1: you can tell the the I guess it stands the
Speaker 1: test of time. The fact that that song was written
Speaker 1: what like two thousand and four five I think, came
Speaker 1: out in six to seven when it started to really
Speaker 1: catch fire. And now it's twenty twenty and people are
Speaker 1: still using your song and there aren't too many songs.
Speaker 1: Like when I think of Hid There Delilah, I still
Speaker 1: remember exactly where it was the first time I heard it,
Speaker 1: what conversation I was having with one of my friends,
Speaker 1: And that's probably like one of the only songs that
Speaker 1: I can recall in detail, like the first time hearing it.
Speaker 1: So it's it's a really special one. Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1: I just got chills with you saying that that's so awesome,
Speaker 1: Like that's crazy. And the fact that you said you
Speaker 1: have no game, it's like you killed the game, you
Speaker 1: wrote a song, then you sing this song about this,
Speaker 1: I mean, like you have the ultimate game. Well, I
Speaker 1: can write a song about you and it can be
Speaker 1: dominated for Grammy. The problem is is that the girl
Speaker 1: that you write the song about never goes for you,
Speaker 1: but it's always you get the other girls because of
Speaker 1: that song. But yeah, it's like I'm serious. Like you
Speaker 1: can ask Tim, our guitar player. He's always saying that
Speaker 1: same thing. He's like, yeah, what what inspires you to
Speaker 1: write the song? Is like a lot of times that
Speaker 1: longing or that you know, it's like, shoot, I need
Speaker 1: to do something to get this girl's attention or to
Speaker 1: like you said, to have some game here, that that's
Speaker 1: my game. But a lot of times she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's cute whatever. And then you girls that are like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, why don't you write a song for me?
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, oh, i'd be wearing a shirt
Speaker 1: that said I'm Delilah period that shirt we made that
Speaker 1: shirt back in the day, and Delilah actually wore that shirt.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I love that. Oh my god, it makes
Speaker 1: the song so much better. We know the background this.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie when we get off this podcast,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna google Delilah. I need to know more about
Speaker 1: her now. Yeah, she's beautiful. I don't you know what.
Speaker 1: It's funny I should reach out to her in like
Speaker 1: a non cheesy way and just be like, hey, how's
Speaker 1: your quarantine? Like are you okay? You know more than
Speaker 1: just what's up? Or would you say, hey, there, have
Speaker 1: you guys seen all those memes that are like, you know,
Speaker 1: like maybe maybe don't tell me what it's like in
Speaker 1: New York City right now, or you know, just all
Speaker 1: that stuff. It's a perfect timing. Where do you find
Speaker 1: your inspiration? I mean, obviously we get Delilah, we get
Speaker 1: where that comes from, love the story behind it. What
Speaker 1: when it comes to the music that you write, where
Speaker 1: do you find your inspiration to write these beautiful songs?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, a lot of times it's just
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. It's like some little little situation
Speaker 1: where either you meet a girl or you go through
Speaker 1: something and if it's just weighing on you a little bit,
Speaker 1: whether it's like, oh my god, she's so amazing, or
Speaker 1: whether it's oh my god, I feel so crappy about
Speaker 1: this thing, I gotta get it off my chest. You know.
Speaker 1: Usually it's just something like that where it's like, man, this,
Speaker 1: I need to get this out. I need to say
Speaker 1: something about this. You know, a lot of times it'll
Speaker 1: come from listening to other music. You know, like you know,
Speaker 1: you'll be listening to something super fresh and you'll be like, Wow,
Speaker 1: that's inspiring, that's so cool, and it makes you want
Speaker 1: to go grab the guitar or go write write some
Speaker 1: thoughts down because I don't know, you want to tap
Speaker 1: into that like excitement that you just felt by someone
Speaker 1: else's music. A lot of times a song will come
Speaker 1: from a title, you know, like You'll have this clever
Speaker 1: little idea and I'll write it down in my notes
Speaker 1: on my phone or something, and then you know, a
Speaker 1: month later, I'll be sitting there and you know, just
Speaker 1: go through them and oh, that was a cool idea,
Speaker 1: and then try to formulate a song around that. So
Speaker 1: it's all kind of different things, you know. I think
Speaker 1: it's there's there's a lot of people. I read this
Speaker 1: book called The War of Art, and it's like, how
Speaker 1: a lot of people think that like being creative is
Speaker 1: this like spiritual light of candle, you know, meditate and
Speaker 1: like hope that something comes at you from the universe
Speaker 1: or something, which, to an extent, there's there's that bit
Speaker 1: of randomness to it, but there's a lot of it.
Speaker 1: It's just you know, checking in, clocking in, and like,
Speaker 1: you know, if I grab my guitar every day and
Speaker 1: just mess around it for fifteen minutes, chances are something's
Speaker 1: going to come come out of it, you know U.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like you just kind of have to
Speaker 1: have to make your own inspiration and just const be
Speaker 1: you know, I love music, and I love writing music,
Speaker 1: and I love just the idea of a song. You know,
Speaker 1: songs are my world. So it's like it's fun to
Speaker 1: just sit down every day and just hack away at
Speaker 1: it until you get something cool. You mentioned finding inspiration
Speaker 1: from another song, so I want to ask, then, what
Speaker 1: is your favorite love song of all time? And then
Speaker 1: also who is one of your favorite artists or bands
Speaker 1: out there? Um, so, my favorite love song? We actually
Speaker 1: the play my t has just made a playlist of
Speaker 1: our favorite love songs. You gotta go check that out.
Speaker 1: Look it up. There's a lot of cool on Spotify.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of cool ones on there. I had
Speaker 1: fun with it. I think I've submitted like forty songs
Speaker 1: or something, and they probably only wanted like ten. But
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if this is a technically
Speaker 1: a love song. But you know that song Yesterday by
Speaker 1: the Beatles, Yes, of course, like it's it's kind of
Speaker 1: a broken hearted love song. But but that song, to
Speaker 1: me is the perfect song. It's so beautiful and it
Speaker 1: says so much and it really does speak to love
Speaker 1: and you know the fact that love can be very
Speaker 1: you know, very fragile, you know, and like or fragile,
Speaker 1: I guess is the right way to say it in
Speaker 1: France or something, but yeah, it's just that's that would
Speaker 1: be my go to love song or basically any song.
Speaker 1: I think that's like the best song of all time. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: well we will definitely check out that that playlist. We're
Speaker 1: actually putting one together for bad seor right now. And
Speaker 1: so I'm like you where I sent it in way
Speaker 1: too many options, um, and I feel bad for whoever
Speaker 1: has to go through. Yeah, pick the actual ones that
Speaker 1: are going on there. But totally it's like favorite movie,
Speaker 1: you know, It's like how do you pick just one?
Speaker 1: It's like you gotta have all all these different different options.
Speaker 1: And too, it's hard when you say when I asked, like,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite love song? Because like you said, you
Speaker 1: don't know if yesterday could be considered a love song,
Speaker 1: but I really think anything can, like when you define
Speaker 1: your own version of love and and so whatever song
Speaker 1: you choose, I mean, that's that's the one. I love that. So, Tom,
Speaker 1: we need to hear from you. Obviously, we loved seeing you.
Speaker 1: We wish we could have seen more of you and
Speaker 1: listen to your heart. But what is coming up for
Speaker 1: both you and the plain White teas anything else that
Speaker 1: we as fans to know about you guys. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Plain White Tas actually our dropping. So it's been
Speaker 1: fifteen years actually since the album All That We Needed
Speaker 1: came out, which is the first album that had hey
Speaker 1: there Delilah on it, so you know, you were doing
Speaker 1: the math a little while ago, and yeah, Delilah first
Speaker 1: came out in twenty five, so it's been fifteen years.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy. But yeah, so that album, we're doing
Speaker 1: like a little reissue of that album celebrate the fifteen
Speaker 1: year anniversary. It's got a few added bonus tracks of
Speaker 1: like live acoustic performances from that time on there. So
Speaker 1: that's what's new for Plain White Teas. Obviously, like I said,
Speaker 1: we had a tour canceled because of all this, So
Speaker 1: as soon as this all lifts, we're going to get
Speaker 1: back on the road and keep playing shows and start
Speaker 1: working on some brand new music. We had an album
Speaker 1: that came out, our latest album, Parallel Universe. We love that.
Speaker 1: We actually played one of the songs for that little
Speaker 1: concert for Listening to Your Heart. So that's basically what's
Speaker 1: near to play my teas for me. I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: writing with a lot of artists Like I said, I
Speaker 1: started a record label called Humans. We're here, so follow
Speaker 1: along to all that stuff. I've got an eighty side
Speaker 1: project called Million Miler that's super fun. It's all like
Speaker 1: synthpop that I'm releasing. So yeah, just staying busy and
Speaker 1: just life revolves around music. So pretty cool. It sounds
Speaker 1: really cool. We're excited for everything that you have coming up.
Speaker 1: We can't wait. Like I said, the Bars High, we
Speaker 1: know you're going to be inspired with so much you know, creativity,
Speaker 1: and I just can't wait to hear what you know,
Speaker 1: you do, what your record label does, the artists on
Speaker 1: that and then also with the Plain White Tis So
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us on Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 1: You know, we hope to see you again on some
Speaker 1: Bachelor franchise show. You're in the family, all right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's just call it call us up. We'll do it.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. And and Tom, if you ever
Speaker 1: need any more inspiration, feel free to write a song
Speaker 1: about Rache and I. Maybe you'll get some grammys off
Speaker 1: there you go back up, Well, this is you know,
Speaker 1: this is the the most female interaction I've had in
Speaker 1: a while, so maybe I will be inspired. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be called two girls in a closet.
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, thanks so much, you'd be safe.
Speaker 1: Thank you you too, Thank you by take care bye? Okay, Becca?
Speaker 1: How great was Tom? I love him? I really do.
Speaker 1: I could have kept talking to him. I know you
Speaker 1: could have too. I mean, whether we're talking about hey there, Delilah,
Speaker 1: his time on the show, his bandmate, finding the love
Speaker 1: of his life on a reality TV show. I felt
Speaker 1: like we had so much in common with Tom, right,
Speaker 1: I've already done this before. He does have this special
Speaker 1: quality about him where I felt like he was just
Speaker 1: at ease and natural. But I loved diving into his
Speaker 1: story and history with Delilah. I've been wanting to know
Speaker 1: that for a years. So it was great to have
Speaker 1: him on the line. I mean, like I said, it's
Speaker 1: a little disheartening to know it wasn't about me, but
Speaker 1: not everything can be about you, Rachel. So, Rachel, you
Speaker 1: had your own season. Okay, girl, if you're at you're right.
Speaker 1: My time is done. It is not by season anymore,
Speaker 1: but it is the season for listening to your heart.
Speaker 1: So what I find so interesting about all of these
Speaker 1: musicians I don't even want to call them contestants. All
Speaker 1: these musicians that are in this mansion together, this beautiful mansion,
Speaker 1: much better than the Bachelor mansion, if I have to
Speaker 1: say so myself. Is that all of them have something
Speaker 1: in common. You know, when we walk in the first night,
Speaker 1: it's like we all have something in common. We're all
Speaker 1: after the same man or woman. You know, that's usually
Speaker 1: what you have in common. You don't think you're going
Speaker 1: to get along with these with the people, at least
Speaker 1: that's how I felt. I was like, oh, I'm probably
Speaker 1: not going to make any friends. I'm going to be
Speaker 1: so different, And then you're pleasantly surprised. These musicians walk
Speaker 1: in already knowing we sing, most of us play instruments.
Speaker 1: We already connect because we share this this artistry together.
Speaker 1: We all think the same way. So I think that
Speaker 1: that makes walking in the first night a little bit
Speaker 1: more welcoming, and that kind of comes off through the
Speaker 1: TV screen, you know, Yes, yes, I felt like there
Speaker 1: was a certain warmth when everyone was around with each other.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like you said, when you go into night
Speaker 1: one and you're all kind of going after the same person,
Speaker 1: there's still that level of competitiveness and a little bit
Speaker 1: of underlying tension. And in this regard, it's not because
Speaker 1: it's really like everyone has a free for all, Like, yes,
Speaker 1: you're all bonded by your love of music and that creativity,
Speaker 1: but everyone's still like, oh, let's just meet everyone. And
Speaker 1: it's like the I don't remember who said it. One
Speaker 1: of the girls was like, I haven't even talked to
Speaker 1: all the guys yet, and I still want to. It's
Speaker 1: not like they're just going after one person. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: And so it like more war and more welcoming, a
Speaker 1: little less I mean, Okay, I'm gonna say this, it
Speaker 1: felt a little less uh like nerve racking, so to speak.
Speaker 1: But I will say if I walked in and I
Speaker 1: knew everyone was that talented, and everyone was a great
Speaker 1: singer and probably played some instruments, I would be like,
Speaker 1: I am. I would be nervous, I think to get
Speaker 1: around them and to I would just think, like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, women, when am I going to have to
Speaker 1: sing in front of all these people? And that's just me.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just because I'm a terrible singer, but um,
Speaker 1: but it had a different feel which I appreciate from
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, no, no, no no no. If I had
Speaker 1: to start, you know, like they're just like, oh, getting
Speaker 1: on the piano and play and pull out the guitar,
Speaker 1: I would be like, Um, I have to go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom, excuse me? And I would you ever come back?
Speaker 1: Like Rachel you as you know, coming from your legal background,
Speaker 1: like if you walked into a mansion full of twenty lawyers,
Speaker 1: how would you feel? I don't know. Okay, So then
Speaker 1: maybe I was so different because I would know that
Speaker 1: I would be prepared. You know, I went to school
Speaker 1: for this, I've had the training for this, so I
Speaker 1: would feel confident in the skill that I would have.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there'd be it'd be nerve wracking, but at
Speaker 1: least I know i'd be prepared as opposed to you know,
Speaker 1: it's not like we're on the Bachelor Bachelorette. We walk
Speaker 1: into the room and they're like, Okay, you're gonna sing,
Speaker 1: kind of like a group date. Okay, you're gonna sing,
Speaker 1: you're gonna dance, and you're like, wait a minute, now,
Speaker 1: that's not my forte. So and we see them come
Speaker 1: out of not limos, but SUVs. We see Chris Harrison,
Speaker 1: we see a mansion. We see that they have packages,
Speaker 1: and in true bachelor fashion, there's a love triangle, which
Speaker 1: was great with our girl Jamie, who's good teething from
Speaker 1: the jump. You know, she's good. And I said this
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier in the podcast, but I love
Speaker 1: Jamie because for the first couple of minutes that she's there,
Speaker 1: she's like, I don't want drama and I just want
Speaker 1: everyone to have a good time. And of course she's
Speaker 1: the one who said that, so she's the one who's
Speaker 1: gonna get sucked into that most drama. We see her
Speaker 1: kind of go between both Ryan and Trevor and not
Speaker 1: really know what to do. She's into both of them.
Speaker 1: They're both into her, and so I kind of feel
Speaker 1: for her. But I will say she is getting more
Speaker 1: of the Bachelor et experience, having multiple guys kind of
Speaker 1: fight over her. Yeah, you can tell Jamie as a
Speaker 1: person who gives her all into whatever it is that
Speaker 1: she's doing. She has a lot of passion. She's a
Speaker 1: big heart because see she wears it a little bit
Speaker 1: on her sleeve, and so she's just all in, you know.
Speaker 1: So we see her she gets there first. Ryan comes in,
Speaker 1: who's such a cutie, they immediately hit it off. They're
Speaker 1: the first people to meet each other, and she's in.
Speaker 1: She's in that thing until trevorson and she's like, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wait wait, what's your name again? I'm sorry? Is it
Speaker 1: Brian or Ryan? I'm sorry because Trevor just walked in,
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure. And which is a lesson learned
Speaker 1: people if you go on these shows that you kind
Speaker 1: of can't put all your eggs in one basket because
Speaker 1: you just never know who's going to walk through the door.
Speaker 1: But this is Jamie. This is almost like the essence
Speaker 1: of her. What's what you love so much about her?
Speaker 1: What is so charming because she goes all in So
Speaker 1: we see her in this love triangle between Jamie and Trevor. So,
Speaker 1: of course, again in true bachelor fashion, there's a day
Speaker 1: card given to Ryan and who does he take? Jamie?
Speaker 1: Of course he does, And you know, I feel for
Speaker 1: Jamie watching that because they're both cute guys, they both
Speaker 1: seem sweet, they both kind of I mean, throughout the
Speaker 1: episode they both sing to her, so it's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I felt for Jamie at the very end
Speaker 1: of the episode because I was like, shit, I don't know.
Speaker 1: If I'm in my rose too, I would just have
Speaker 1: pulled a name out of a hat. At that point,
Speaker 1: I think, um, and then we get Okay. Another contestant
Speaker 1: who I really liked too, I still want to talk
Speaker 1: about is Rudy. Now, I personally, from what I've seen
Speaker 1: of her, I personal like her. I think she I
Speaker 1: keep saying the word spunky, but she just like seems
Speaker 1: to have this zest for life. And I also really
Speaker 1: liked So I was looking up all the contestant bios
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, you know, and this was
Speaker 1: prior to Rudy singing, and I was like, I want
Speaker 1: to hear Rudy sing because she's she has the pop
Speaker 1: R and B background, and so we see her, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of hit it off with Matt and be into him.
Speaker 1: But like later on in the episode, when she sings
Speaker 1: and you feel like the passion behind her emotions, I
Speaker 1: was like, I want more of her voice. Yeah, no, Rudy.
Speaker 1: There's definitely a lot to get into with Rudy because
Speaker 1: Rudy switched it up real fat, real quick and a hurry.
Speaker 1: So I want to I want to do Rudy, but
Speaker 1: I definitely want to finish Jamie, Ryan and Trevor. Because
Speaker 1: something that stood out to me with Ryan and Jamie
Speaker 1: when they first had that conversation was when he shared
Speaker 1: his story. So it's like, I get why Jamie falls
Speaker 1: for him because he's cute. She already says, that's my type.
Speaker 1: You're the typical guy that I go for. And then
Speaker 1: he tells a story about him having brain surgery when
Speaker 1: he was only six years old, and you see him
Speaker 1: but obviously he fought through that because he is where
Speaker 1: he is today. But he's also this insanely talented musician.
Speaker 1: So he's got this story of I don't know if
Speaker 1: the word is redemption, but just this story where he's
Speaker 1: a fighter. You it resonates with you. You attach that
Speaker 1: to him in addition to everything else that he presents
Speaker 1: in the physical way and as far as his talent.
Speaker 1: So it's like, how in the world do you not
Speaker 1: pick Ryan? And then Trevor comes in and she falls
Speaker 1: for Trevor. So yes, Ryan gets a date card, takes
Speaker 1: Jamie on the date, and they go to Capitol Records.
Speaker 1: Didn't surprise me. Didn't surprise me that they were going
Speaker 1: to Capitol Records. I had PTSD watching them pull up
Speaker 1: to Capitol Records because that's where I had a date
Speaker 1: with Chris Randone aka Goose and did he rice we
Speaker 1: had to? Yes, we had to? Did we? I don't
Speaker 1: even remember what we did on that day. Oh, he
Speaker 1: had like a freak out panic moment and then we
Speaker 1: had to sing. And I was mortified. And so when
Speaker 1: I and I haven't bumped to Capitol Records, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, but obviously, like this is their profession, so
Speaker 1: it's different for them. People that should be at Capitol
Speaker 1: Record they belong there. Chris and I not so much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought it was pretty cool that not
Speaker 1: only did they go to Capital Records, which I wasn't surprised.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, musicians are going to Capital Records, but
Speaker 1: then for them to go in sing a John Mayer song,
Speaker 1: but then work with the music producer John Ezelia, who
Speaker 1: worked with John Mayer on the song. So it's they're
Speaker 1: getting the whole experience, which gravity Becca Gravity. I don't
Speaker 1: know what year that came out in, but I was
Speaker 1: going through something when that song came out, like that
Speaker 1: song speaks to me in a whole other way. So
Speaker 1: when they were like we're going to sing gravity. I
Speaker 1: thought were Jamie, I would have been crying all the
Speaker 1: way through it. I would have been like, this song, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's just it's my favorite John Mayers song. And even
Speaker 1: before so in my notes, before Ryan took Jamie on
Speaker 1: that date and we knew what they were going to
Speaker 1: be doing, I wrote that where's my notes, Ryan equals
Speaker 1: John Mayer is what I wrote. He has the look
Speaker 1: ye is like John Mayer and just and so when
Speaker 1: I'm watching them, I was like, of course they're going
Speaker 1: to sing a John Mayer song because he's basically there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess I didn't put that together, so maybe they
Speaker 1: picked that because I mean, who knows, But then did you?
Speaker 1: Did you see? Though? Moving on from Ryan to Trevor,
Speaker 1: when Trevor then sings to Jamie later on he sings
Speaker 1: the slow Dancing in the Burning Room that he actually
Speaker 1: sang that song to us. But I even said before
Speaker 1: he started singing us like, don't sing a John Mayer's song,
Speaker 1: don't sing a John Mayer's song. And of course he does,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Trevor would pick a John Mayer
Speaker 1: So yeah, I know, but isn't that kind of for me? Personally,
Speaker 1: I would want to switch it up and to have
Speaker 1: something so completely different than what she experienced with another man.
Speaker 1: Can we be messy for a SECONDA who sang the
Speaker 1: John Mayer song better? Ryan or Trevor? Okay, this could
Speaker 1: be an unpopular opinion, but I actually like Trevor's voice
Speaker 1: better than Ryan. Hell no, it was definitely Ryan. It
Speaker 1: was definitely Ryan saying Ryan. He didn't sing it as
Speaker 1: well when they were sitting by the fireside chat and
Speaker 1: they told him to put it on the spot when
Speaker 1: he was in the studio and he sang, I looked,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Is that that? That voice just come from
Speaker 1: Ryan whole nother level. He kind of has a Seawan
Speaker 1: Mendez esque voice. I think, No, he looks like a
Speaker 1: Sean Mendez. I think he looks like John Mayer. He
Speaker 1: does look like John Mayer to me, But I mean, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know they favor Okay, I just looked up.
Speaker 1: Gravity came out in two thousand and five. Okay, around
Speaker 1: the same time There Delia, the same time, Hey, there
Speaker 1: Delia was going I was going through a breakup at
Speaker 1: that time. Yeah, that song, so yes, I Jamie definitely
Speaker 1: also was winning that night. Because she had two very attractive,
Speaker 1: talented men fighting over her in this first episode and
Speaker 1: they both sang to her at the same time too.
Speaker 1: So anyways, I don't know how you say no to
Speaker 1: Ryan after that date of him singing make this, because
Speaker 1: he also held her hand because she was really nervous.
Speaker 1: She and he guided her through that and really kind
Speaker 1: of carried her through the song. And I thought her
Speaker 1: voice was amazing too, but it was she said it.
Speaker 1: She's like, my voice doesn't match. It's not my genre.
Speaker 1: And I was like, girl, stop, you sound amazing. She
Speaker 1: and I and that's why. Okay, So fresh off the bat,
Speaker 1: when we first met Jamie, I liked her, but then
Speaker 1: watching her on that date, I found her more relatable.
Speaker 1: I liked the nerves. I liked the fact that, yes,
Speaker 1: she's an amazing singer and she's on the show for
Speaker 1: a reason, but she still was hesitant and scared to
Speaker 1: do that because, like you said, she didn't think it
Speaker 1: was her genre. It was you know, she was singing
Speaker 1: with this new handsome man, and so I liked that.
Speaker 1: I found it very endearing and kind of cute that
Speaker 1: she she was more you know, hesitant with and at
Speaker 1: that date at that moment. Um. Okay, I feel like
Speaker 1: we're jumping all over the place, though, But can we
Speaker 1: just for one second talk about because we didn't talk
Speaker 1: about him coming out of the suv um Josh, so
Speaker 1: he was called another another one of the guys said
Speaker 1: that he was the jacked mister Clean. He was I
Speaker 1: phoned him so attractive. I mean his jaw line. Everyone
Speaker 1: go back if you missed him, just look at his
Speaker 1: jaw line please. I mean, I remember cackling when the
Speaker 1: guy said the jacked mister Clean. I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: that was really an on point comparison. But he didn't
Speaker 1: really we didn't really see much of his personality, and
Speaker 1: I'm such a personality person so I mean, maybe he's great,
Speaker 1: but I just I couldn't get past the jacked mister clean.
Speaker 1: I mean, after that he lived on a bottle of
Speaker 1: cleaning supplies for me, and I just never saw anything
Speaker 1: past that. So I don't want to talk about the
Speaker 1: endings just yet, what happens with this love triangle. But
Speaker 1: you mentioned Rudy and that fabulous voice of hers, So
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Rudy and Matt because we
Speaker 1: see Rudy hit it off with that super quick, and
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, we don't even need to keep at
Speaker 1: least I was like, I don't even need to keep
Speaker 1: paying attention to him. This is a done deal. They
Speaker 1: seem to really connect. She's into him, he's into her.
Speaker 1: And then we see that awkward moment in the hot tip.
Speaker 1: What what did you take on that, Like, did you
Speaker 1: think it was awkward or did you understand where Rudy
Speaker 1: was coming from? Um? No, it was definitely awkward. It was.
Speaker 1: And this is something that I wanted to ask you
Speaker 1: because Matt asked, Rudy, do you judge a person by
Speaker 1: how they kiss? So, Rachel, I'm gonna let's let's talk
Speaker 1: about this, and then I'm gonna ask you the same question.
Speaker 1: It was weird because it's like I can see both sides.
Speaker 1: I can see why Rudy maybe wants to wait because
Speaker 1: she wants to still talk to some of the other
Speaker 1: guys and not, as you said, throw all the eggs
Speaker 1: in one basket. But if you're feeling someone, you're feeling someone,
Speaker 1: and in this scenario, you don't have all the time
Speaker 1: in the world, so you really want to try to
Speaker 1: make a connection. And it seems like they were it
Speaker 1: seems like they were both really into each other. And
Speaker 1: so when she when he asks her that and then
Speaker 1: she you know, goes underwater and then pops up and
Speaker 1: it is just like talking her makeup. I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is ruoney in the moment, like he just wants to see,
Speaker 1: like he wants a kiss. He's not being awkward like
Speaker 1: how Michael Todd was saying, Oh, I like your lips,
Speaker 1: Like he's asking her a question about it to see
Speaker 1: where it can maybe go. So it was kind of
Speaker 1: a letdown, and I think that's where their problems started
Speaker 1: because then Matt walked away being like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I thought it was going great and she kind of
Speaker 1: just like flipped and didn't want to like see where
Speaker 1: this could go type of thing. Um it was. It
Speaker 1: was awkward, yeah, I mean I definitely was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're they're flirty. You agreed to get in the hot tub. Girl.
Speaker 1: You agreed to take off your clothes, get into a
Speaker 1: little bathing suit, get in the hot tub where things
Speaker 1: get hot and steamy. You have to be close to
Speaker 1: each other, you're wet, I mean, and then you have
Speaker 1: your aerial moment where you dip yourself in the pool
Speaker 1: rise or the hot tub, arise from it, slick your
Speaker 1: hair back, and it's like you're turning this man on.
Speaker 1: I just felt like it wasn't awkward for him to
Speaker 1: insinuate that they kiss if she didn't want to. I
Speaker 1: also understand that because I too did not want to
Speaker 1: kiss anybody the first night of the Bachelorette, and then
Speaker 1: I went all in with Brian because I was, like
Speaker 1: you said, Beck, I thought, Okay, I'm just gonna be
Speaker 1: in the moment. I'm not gonna push it away. But
Speaker 1: I felt like he was hinting at it. So Rudy
Speaker 1: could have played it better. She could have kind of
Speaker 1: been like, m I know where you're going. I want
Speaker 1: to kiss you too. I want to go there. I
Speaker 1: like you, I'm feeling you, but I kind of want
Speaker 1: to save it for it another day, like if you
Speaker 1: get a date car, take me on a one on
Speaker 1: one or I'll take you, and let's save it for
Speaker 1: a second, because I promised myself I wouldn't kiss somebody
Speaker 1: the first night, you know what I mean. She could
Speaker 1: have played it in a different way. Instead, it was like,
Speaker 1: you want to get out of the hot tub, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go Yeah, she's just more worried about like, oh, woman,
Speaker 1: makeup's running now and I look terrible and what it
Speaker 1: was just weird? Um, but rich, I do want to
Speaker 1: ask you, because Matt asked her this, do you judge
Speaker 1: a person by how they kid? I'm a kisser. I'm
Speaker 1: a kisser, But I also feel like I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: judge you on the first impression. Sometimes maybe you're nerve,
Speaker 1: maybe you're a little awkward. So there have been times
Speaker 1: where I'm like, and this happened on the bat strette.
Speaker 1: I can rehabilitate you. I can teach you how to
Speaker 1: kiss better. Maybe you haven't. Maybe you haven't learned. Maybe
Speaker 1: you haven't kissed somebody with full lips like this. Maybe
Speaker 1: like nobody's taught you sometimes should be taught. You know,
Speaker 1: the same thing goes for sex. So I thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can rehabilitate you. That doesn't always work. Then I'm
Speaker 1: judging you by your kiss because if you can't kiss right,
Speaker 1: you can't do anything right to me physically. That's just
Speaker 1: how I feel like kissing. That's bad. That's like first base,
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, how are we going to run the
Speaker 1: second If you don't know how to kiss me well,
Speaker 1: I want to Well, I won't put you on the spot,
Speaker 1: but I do want to know who is the worst kisser.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I will without a doubt. I can
Speaker 1: tell you off the bat who it was, and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you off camera because I like this person and
Speaker 1: I don't want to be rude. We'll share. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: call you after this, we'll chat. But I agree. I
Speaker 1: do think, uh, like when you when when you have
Speaker 1: that connection with someone for the most part, I mean,
Speaker 1: I've only had a couple bad kisses in my life.
Speaker 1: Like for the most part, most people have been pretty good,
Speaker 1: especially when you're into someone. Um, but yes, people like you,
Speaker 1: you need to be a good kisser. Yeah, Like it's
Speaker 1: a there's a language with it, there's a movement, a rhythm,
Speaker 1: and if we can't get it there, we're not going
Speaker 1: to find that rhythm anywhere. You know, Thank you, So
Speaker 1: I do. There's a song about it if you want
Speaker 1: to know if he loves you, so, it's in his kiss.
Speaker 1: That's where it is. Where it is. I don't know
Speaker 1: why it is. I I don't even know the rest
Speaker 1: of the words. I just know that part I love.
Speaker 1: If you wanna know if he loves you. So we
Speaker 1: did that last episode. Let's not do that again. Cut
Speaker 1: that part out. That was a fun game. I want
Speaker 1: to do that every day. Well that's hard pass. H Okay.
Speaker 1: So I totally understand Matt for not for reading Rudy like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe she's just not that into me. If she didn't
Speaker 1: want to give me a kiss, he was probably thinking
Speaker 1: I read it wrong. So let me not put all
Speaker 1: my eggs in one basket and let me go talk
Speaker 1: to someone else. So I get why he moved on
Speaker 1: to Mel. I totally understand why he took Mel on
Speaker 1: the date. What I don't understand because we see he
Speaker 1: gets a date card and he picks Mel and they
Speaker 1: go on the plane white Teas date, and we didn't
Speaker 1: really see much of that. But what I don't understand
Speaker 1: is whatever this conversation was that Rudy and Matt had
Speaker 1: that led Rudy to believe that he was taking her
Speaker 1: on a date. And then he makes the comment, well,
Speaker 1: I thought that's what I was supposed to do. And
Speaker 1: I'm confused, do you I'm so confused. Maybe you understood it.
Speaker 1: It was confusing, And I will say, so, you know,
Speaker 1: night one, we see that awkward interaction with Matt and
Speaker 1: Rudy go on to the next day. You really don't
Speaker 1: see Matt and Mel that much, like you see the
Speaker 1: moment where he pulls her away to chit chat, and
Speaker 1: then of course he goes and pulls Rudy. But like
Speaker 1: when he was when he was gonna say a name
Speaker 1: to go on that date, I thought he was going
Speaker 1: to say Rudy. So I don't know where the disconnect was.
Speaker 1: Obviously there's more that we didn't see go down that
Speaker 1: they can't put into a show. But I mean, and
Speaker 1: we don't see the moment where apparently, as Rudy said,
Speaker 1: Matt had told her he was going to pick her,
Speaker 1: and I wish we could, so we'll really never know.
Speaker 1: But do you think that he picked Mel to make
Speaker 1: her jealous? Like he never was into Mel, He was
Speaker 1: just trying to see, let me see if this lights
Speaker 1: a fire under Rudy. I don't know. I think honestly,
Speaker 1: I think it was just him being a dude and
Speaker 1: like not thinking straight. I just I never saw it
Speaker 1: before up until that point, him really talking to mellor
Speaker 1: seeing any sort of connection there. So and of course
Speaker 1: we didn't see it on the date. I just think
Speaker 1: he I don't know. I think that there's a lot
Speaker 1: that we didn't see, and I think that I don't
Speaker 1: know how much I want to say here. I think
Speaker 1: that like like Paradise, we've seen it before, where you
Speaker 1: think someone's going to pick a certain person and they don't,
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's time apart deciding who
Speaker 1: to pick, and like, I don't know, I think that's
Speaker 1: kind of what played into it. But I mean, rightly, so,
Speaker 1: if if Matt did tell Rudy in that conversation that hey,
Speaker 1: I'm going to pick you for this date, I'll be
Speaker 1: right back. I'll come get to you in a little bit,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd be just as pissed as she as
Speaker 1: she was. I mean, i'd probably hold it in and
Speaker 1: deliver it differently. But if that was the actual conversation,
Speaker 1: rightly so, she should be upset. And I do love
Speaker 1: that she well, I love that she told him off.
Speaker 1: At first, I was kind of like, well, this is
Speaker 1: a little a lot too soon, because if I was mad,
Speaker 1: I would be like, wait a minute, now I'm seeing
Speaker 1: a totally different side of her, which side is the
Speaker 1: real Rudy? But then I understood if he did say
Speaker 1: those things to her why she was upset. I was also, well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that part yet, but I was.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that she did that. But selfishly, this sounds
Speaker 1: so bad, y'all. Don't don't get mad at me for
Speaker 1: saying this. I'm so sad that Rudy had her heartbroken
Speaker 1: that night. But raise your hand right now if you
Speaker 1: were a little excited that you also got that beautiful
Speaker 1: song out of Rudy because she was heartbroken, I said, well,
Speaker 1: music could make the best, like the best songs. She
Speaker 1: sang that smile song. I said, oh, thank you, Matt,
Speaker 1: Thank you Matt. We'll breaking got this beautiful song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we would not have gotten that. We wouldn't have
Speaker 1: heard her had he not picked Mel for this date.
Speaker 1: I mean, I, like I said earlier, I want to
Speaker 1: hear Rudy sing more. Her vocal like that in that moment.
Speaker 1: You helped the passion, You felt the motion behind her words,
Speaker 1: and it was like velvet like her voice in that moment.
Speaker 1: So I want to hear more of her. You guys,
Speaker 1: Rudy Butter get a rose next week and keep her room,
Speaker 1: because I want to hear more of that. Chris is
Speaker 1: insanely talented. And we didn't really talk about Chris because
Speaker 1: Chris and Brie hit it off and like, there's no drama,
Speaker 1: their natural surprise couple. But I'm glad, Well, Okay, what
Speaker 1: I was going to say is even Chris is so
Speaker 1: insanely talented, and he's always on the piano getting music started,
Speaker 1: and his reaction when Rudy started singing, he was like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting that. I was like, Chris, we are
Speaker 1: all of you at the moment. But what I was
Speaker 1: going to say about Chris and Bree is there's really
Speaker 1: not much to say about him because there's no drama.
Speaker 1: But what I love about the Chris and Bree relationship
Speaker 1: is that that is that's what makes this whole process beautiful.
Speaker 1: You think you have a type, you think you know
Speaker 1: exactly who you're going to date because of what you've
Speaker 1: dated before, and then you step into this bubble, this world,
Speaker 1: and you have all the outside to tractions moved away
Speaker 1: and all that outside noise and you're really just focusing
Speaker 1: on what it is that you want for yourself, and
Speaker 1: you are so beautifully surprised and it may be someone
Speaker 1: that you never thought that you were going to be with. Bore.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I can honestly say that about Brian,
Speaker 1: Like I was attracted to Brian, but I got to
Speaker 1: really see him in the bubble and now we're married.
Speaker 1: And so I see that with Brie and Chris, like
Speaker 1: they that they're like a beautiful surprise. I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: known that they would have been together, and I bet
Speaker 1: they would say the same thing, well, and they're I mean,
Speaker 1: we didn't see too too much of them in that
Speaker 1: first episode, but we did see a moment for like
Speaker 1: two minutes where they were sitting down kind of you know,
Speaker 1: holding each other's hands to each other's legs on the couch,
Speaker 1: and that moment, it was just cute. And that's what
Speaker 1: I wrote in my notes. It was a cute moment
Speaker 1: where she's like, I'm serious when I tell you I
Speaker 1: feel like we have a connection and I want you
Speaker 1: to be holding my hand and he is reciprocating that,
Speaker 1: and it's like they're kind of I mean, it's like
Speaker 1: a new relationship blossom. And I felt like it's like
Speaker 1: that new young love like where you get it started
Speaker 1: in high school and it's just sweet. It was just
Speaker 1: a sweet, sweet moment. And then one other little triangle
Speaker 1: that we see go down, and we'll just touch on
Speaker 1: this quickly because it wasn't as juicy as the other ones,
Speaker 1: I felt like. But between Julia and her two men,
Speaker 1: I mean, we had Sheridan who was chasing after her,
Speaker 1: and then also it was Josh, right, Josh was involved too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Josh. Josh was really into Julia. Yes, So
Speaker 1: between those two, I mean, from how we saw the
Speaker 1: conversations play out, I knew at that Rose ceremony she
Speaker 1: was going to pick Sheridan because they just showed more
Speaker 1: than like he he wrote that new song for her,
Speaker 1: He's saying to her. That night they shared that kiss. Yes,
Speaker 1: she also shared a kiss with Josh. But I knew,
Speaker 1: I knew watched it. It was like, it's gonna be Sheridan.
Speaker 1: Hand's down. Yeah, I'm glad it Sheridan, I like sharedon
Speaker 1: he stands out, Thank God, Michael Todd. Okay, So we
Speaker 1: get to the Rose ceremony, we pretty much see Jamie's
Speaker 1: surprise surprise she picks Ryan. No, Jamie, see, because in
Speaker 1: my mind she should have picked Ryan. That's what I
Speaker 1: was thinking poor Ryan gave us all, went on a date,
Speaker 1: was like, what more could I have done? But thank god,
Speaker 1: Rudy saves him. Thank goodness. She also doesn't give it
Speaker 1: to Matt. I like that she stood strong in her beliefs.
Speaker 1: But we see Cheyenne, it's her name. Cheyenne gives her
Speaker 1: rose to Matt. Brie and Chris of course give it
Speaker 1: to each other. We see Savannah give hers to Brandon,
Speaker 1: and Julia gives hers to Sheridan, and Mel gives hers
Speaker 1: to Gaye because they had a bit of a connection
Speaker 1: to Yes. So I guess, oh, I think goodness, Michael
Speaker 1: Todd is gone. The guy who was there just to
Speaker 1: advance his music career, beatbox songwright, play the guitar, singing
Speaker 1: like it awkwardly kiss people talk about nice lips. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was just the most. He did what he means
Speaker 1: to do. He was recognized. Now he can move on,
Speaker 1: so moving forward, I mean, I, oh, no, we have
Speaker 1: to do a rosen Thorn of the week. My rose
Speaker 1: goes to Ryan because I feel like he gave his all,
Speaker 1: poor thing, and it still didn't work out for him.
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping in the future it does. And my
Speaker 1: thorn goes to Michael Todd. Obviously, I mean the man
Speaker 1: had to go. He was a thorn and everybody's side
Speaker 1: this episode. Yes, my thorn would also go to Michael Todd. Again,
Speaker 1: I have an X through his name. That's all I
Speaker 1: have to say. My rose, though, I'm gonna give it
Speaker 1: to Rudy because she and I know this is probably
Speaker 1: gonna be an unpopular opinion. Some people are gonna be like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: she was too much, she freaked out on Matt. It
Speaker 1: was over the top. I don't think so. And her vocals,
Speaker 1: like that song itself here and her sing that gets
Speaker 1: my rose. So there you go. No, it was great. Okay,
Speaker 1: So we hope you guys, if you have didn't watch
Speaker 1: last night, maybe listening to this episode really let you
Speaker 1: know that you're missing something great. And it's only the
Speaker 1: first episodes. We have so much more to watch. We
Speaker 1: got a little bit of a tease and we've seen
Speaker 1: some promos, so I guess moving forward, we know that
Speaker 1: there are more people to come in the house, which
Speaker 1: I can't wait because everybody's been insanely talented. There's like
Speaker 1: everyone has a story, so I'm excited to see who's coming.
Speaker 1: I believe it's going to be some women that are
Speaker 1: coming in. It has to be right, because we eliminated
Speaker 1: four mints, We've got to get some women in here.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be three new girls next week that come
Speaker 1: into the house. M And as we've seen in the teaser,
Speaker 1: a shocking relation is made about one of the contestants
Speaker 1: past relationships. Wh you need some drama of a past
Speaker 1: relationship in any season people, Yes, And we know that
Speaker 1: they're going to be four date cards next episode, so
Speaker 1: that means more dates, more connections, and probably more breakups,
Speaker 1: more dramas, which is great. More drama. Um And I
Speaker 1: would imagine that everyone was on their best behavior in
Speaker 1: this episode, so I'm pretty sure that we're going to
Speaker 1: see some things. All I can say is is it's
Speaker 1: been already known that I'm on an episod so earlier,
Speaker 1: so I know you're about to see some true colors
Speaker 1: if some people come out, because I saw it on
Speaker 1: the episode that I was on, And I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: leave you right there. I'm just gonna right there. No,
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Like you said, everyone's always on their
Speaker 1: best behavior. Night one that can't last very long. So
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