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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? What's up Batchel Nation? Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: another great episode that Becca and I have in store

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Speaker 1: for you today. Becca, we have so much to discuss,

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Speaker 1: per usual, I feel like we're always starting the show

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Speaker 1: off like that because it's the honest to god truth.

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Speaker 1: We have so much to talk about. Of course, we

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Speaker 1: have an amazing guest that our listeners can look forward to,

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Speaker 1: and we really just hope you guys tuned in last

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Speaker 1: night to listen to your heart because that is the

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Speaker 1: new season that we are stepping into. We're discussing all

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Speaker 1: things with the show, the contestants, the drama, the love,

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Speaker 1: the excitement. I mean, if you didn't watch it last night,

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Speaker 1: I honestly have no idea what it is that you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Be honest, you've watched everything else. This is a new show.

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Speaker 1: It's here, it's exciting, we're all home. You have nothing

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Speaker 1: else to do. Stop trying to be all hard about it,

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Speaker 1: like I'm not going to watch another Bachelor show because

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Speaker 1: we know you want to, We're doing it. I have

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Speaker 1: been so excited for this premiere because I kept saying

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Speaker 1: I feel like Nation as a whole just needed something

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Speaker 1: else to bring us together. You know, we don't have

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Speaker 1: any other shows really to bond everyone at this moment.

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Speaker 1: So if you didn't catch the two hour premiere plays,

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Speaker 1: go back and watch it because it really has so

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Speaker 1: many fun pieces. Of course, just like your typical Batch

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Speaker 1: for Batch or at fashion, you have the love, you

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Speaker 1: have the drama, you also have some music, and of

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Speaker 1: course our favorite Chris Harrison, so you really get it

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Speaker 1: all within listen to your heart. And I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to see where the season goes because we saw a

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Speaker 1: Waco down in that two hour premiere, one of my

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Speaker 1: because we have a very very special guest coming. I

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Speaker 1: don't know about you, Rachel, but high School Becca was

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Speaker 1: fan girling a little bit when we saw I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna give it away because we saw Tom Higginson from

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Speaker 1: The Plain White Teas and everyone out there, you have

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Speaker 1: been living under a rock if you don't know, Hey there, Delilah.

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Speaker 1: That is their hit. So we saw him perform on

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Speaker 1: the show. We'll have him on our podcasts a little

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Speaker 1: bit later. But I just can't wait to break it down,

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Speaker 1: dig deep into this new show that hopefully, like I said,

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Speaker 1: we'll bring everyone together. Becca, I feel like you aged

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Speaker 1: me a bit because you said high school and I'm like, actually, Becca,

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Speaker 1: for me, it was college college Rachel. I was obsessed

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Speaker 1: with Hey there, Delilah. I don't even want to get

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Speaker 1: into it because I'm going to talk about it with

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Speaker 1: So hopefully Tom can give us some inside scoop. But

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Speaker 1: before we jump to Mel and Matt's backyard concert, let's

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Speaker 1: go ahead and get started talking about all the amazing

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Speaker 1: contestants we got to meet from last night. Okay, Becca,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but we really didn't know.

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Speaker 1: We said this before, but we didn't know what to

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Speaker 1: expect with Listen to Your Heart. We knew we were

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Speaker 1: getting Chris Harrison. We knew these there were men and

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Speaker 1: women living together. We know it's this Bachelor Pad times,

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Times, American Idol type show, so we knew we

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Speaker 1: were getting a hybrid. But is it just me or

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Speaker 1: were you shocked that they had packages like we did

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Speaker 1: on Bachelor and Bachelorette. I kind of was, But I

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Speaker 1: like it because it gives us a way to get

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Speaker 1: of course, we had talked to Trevor and very last week,

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Speaker 1: so we knew what to expect with them, but there's

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Speaker 1: I just love It's different from Paradise because when people

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Speaker 1: the people that we did meet. So obviously we spoke

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Speaker 1: the one who maybe America has seen before on American Idol, Right,

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Speaker 1: bit of an edge. He's done Reality TV. That Reality

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Speaker 1: me is like, Okay, maybe Trevor might know a little

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Speaker 1: right reasons, I would agree. He also seems and you

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Speaker 1: say it, like, you know, he should have some experience

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Speaker 1: he's there with a purpose. Same with Brie. We talked

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Speaker 1: she's She's very open to the experience and what it

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Speaker 1: I do want to get into And I know we

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Speaker 1: didn't see an intro package for Jamie, but she was

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Speaker 1: but she was just like so full of life and

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Speaker 1: she just seemed kind of quirky and fun. But she

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get that drama which we see go down later,

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Speaker 1: because I have one of my favorites of who we saw,

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Speaker 1: and I want to know who yours was, too. Um Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you my favorite. First was going to say

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Speaker 1: about Jamie. Two things I noticed about Jamie She's I

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Speaker 1: agree with everything that you said. Also, she is clearly

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Speaker 1: knew she's good TV. She's she's fun to watch, she's

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Speaker 1: excitement level was on another level. She was just happy

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Speaker 1: one of my favorites, But are you talking about my

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Speaker 1: favorites from all twenty contestants or from the packages that

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Speaker 1: all twenty contestants too. Oh okay, So honestly, my favorite

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Speaker 1: But she just seems like an all her own good person.

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Speaker 1: But I have to say, and I'm not just saying

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Speaker 1: my notes to try to think who was Becca? Well,

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Speaker 1: and you don't see too much of her in the

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Speaker 1: of naming cars as well. Is car's name Sheila. I

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Speaker 1: me he was different, So I was like, okay, like

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Speaker 1: a necessary character for a singing show. Um. I mean

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Speaker 1: with her, but I feel like she I cannot hold

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Speaker 1: I just am more like, do you hear yourself talking

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Speaker 1: So I wasn't as into Savannah Brandon. Let me let

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Speaker 1: me take weight, like, let me make sure I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at the right guy for Brandon. Where is he? Why?

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Speaker 1: Okay Brandon? He was yeah, match on the same level person, Brandon.

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Speaker 1: I kept getting let me pull up the face cards too.

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Speaker 1: But it was between Brandon Trevor, and then who's the

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Speaker 1: Michael Todd. In a little bit between between those three,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I can't keep who is who's straight? No, Trevor,

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Speaker 1: I got, but Brandon and Michael Todd. I could say that,

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Speaker 1: my buddy Tim did it with this his reality show.

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00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 1: But like just to have to meet somebody, go on

426
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: this awkward date and have the whole thing be filmed

427
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: and like just know in the back of your mind

428
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: that like, oh cool, millions of people are going to

429
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 1: see this, Like I feel like you'd be so kind

430
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: of self conscious that how would you actually like let

431
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: yourself like be vulnerable enough to like actually get to

432
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: know somebody or actually having some real moments. It's weird.

433
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 1: It's a weird concept. So yeah, I don't know that

434
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: I that I necessarily could tell if they were like

435
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: clicking or not, because knowing that it was like their

436
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: first date, I was like, oh, well, who knows you know? Yeah,

437
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: well I tell you. I don't know if you know this,

438
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: but we're like your bandmate, I met my husband now

439
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: husband on The Bachelor three years ago. Yes, and Becca's

440
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: engaged to her guys, So it's like two years at

441
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: this point, right, so we're yeah, yeah, yeah and real

442
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 1: it works. And I will say my first like with

443
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: my now fiance, his name is Garrett, with on my

444
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 1: first date with him, we actually were surprised with a

445
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 1: country concert that night, so luckily we had the day

446
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: to spend it together. But that night we walked into

447
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,479
Speaker 1: this room and it was kind of it was it

448
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: was a smaller concert setting too. It is very dark,

449
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: very intimate. But I think it depends on the person

450
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: because with Garrett, I felt so open, so comfortable, like

451
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: we had the best time at that concert, just dancing

452
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 1: and kissing. But I will say that had it been

453
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: in anyone else that you maybe don't have chemistry with,

454
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 1: it would have been so awkward totally. So yeah, I

455
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: can kind of see where they were coming from where

456
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 1: they're like there was like, yeah, not too much chemistry

457
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: and if they obviously they've never been on a TV

458
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 1: show before, so they didn't know what to expect. But

459
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: but Tom, I want to get into a little bit

460
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: of background about you and how you got started in music. Really,

461
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: so we know that you and your bandmates had started

462
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: putting my teas in high school. Correct, So what's the

463
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: secret to stay I feel like it's like a relationship obviously,

464
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,239
Speaker 1: what's the secret to staying together and keeping that that

465
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: musical chemistry alive? Wow? Um, well, you know it's funny.

466
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: We're all like really good dudes that like each other,

467
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like we've had our ups and downs,

468
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: and there actually have been a couple little like mis

469
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: fighty like have to break up the band members. Like

470
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: through the years, there's been some crazy times, especially in

471
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: the early days when we were traveling around in like

472
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: a van together and we used to tour like three

473
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 1: hundred days out of the year in a van, so

474
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: there wasn't like you couldn't escape if you were like

475
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: fisted at somebody or like annoyed with somebody you were

476
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: you had to be like three feet from them at

477
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: all times. Anyway, you couldn't. Like Dan not a bus.

478
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: I was like, I thought, maybe he maybe he made

479
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: a mistake when he said at the first time. Then

480
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: he said it again, and see now it's a little

481
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: easier because now we have a bus. So now it's like, cool, dude,

482
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: that guy's being a jerk, Like, well, I'm just gonna

483
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 1: go in the back lounge and hang out whatever. I

484
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: don't need to see him for a few hours. But yeah,

485
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: back then it was in the van, so you're like

486
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: he's in the bench, like right next to you, and

487
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, you know, so that was really rock

488
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 1: in the way. But yeah, in general, I just think

489
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: we're all we all are like brothers. You know. It's

490
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: like we fight sometimes, but we all deep down love

491
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 1: each other, have a lot of respect for each other.

492
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: And I think musically as well, same thing. You know,

493
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,959
Speaker 1: It's like we all definitely have our different opinions and

494
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: sometimes we'll argue when we're putting songs together and stuff.

495
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: But in the end, it's like, well, I know they're

496
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, like they're giving their opinion that they really believe.

497
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm gonna even though I don't think

498
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: that's necessarily what I would have done, I'm going to

499
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: listen to that, and we all just kind of compromise

500
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: and you know, just kind of make it, make the

501
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: decisions as a unit, and then put it out there

502
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: and wish for the best. Yeah. I mean it's a

503
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: testament to you guys and why you're still together. I'm

504
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: interested in this because obviously Listen to Your Heart is

505
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: about love, but it's also about music and coming together

506
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: and making love and making music. One thing we kept hearing,

507
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: at least in this first episode was the musicians were

508
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: saying that, oh, I've never dated a musician and before

509
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: I've never dated it. But both the guys and the girls,

510
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: So have you ever dated a musician before? Is this

511
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: a thing? You know? I don't know. I did go

512
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: on a date with this one girl that was a

513
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: singer and she was super cool, but it's very difficult.

514
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. Here's why you don't date a musician

515
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: because we're always traveling around and we're all we were

516
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: never in one we're never quarantined in one place set

517
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: for a long time, you know. So it's like it's

518
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: very difficult. Like I could meet somebody on the road

519
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 1: and be like, oh my god, that girl was so

520
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: amazing and you know, text her for the next week,

521
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: but like, just because of the ever changing lifestyle, like

522
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to really take that seriously or really

523
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: keep that going because even if you did have a

524
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: real connection or did have like something serious, it's like

525
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: there's just so much going on, and you know, you're

526
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: not going to see that person for what at least months,

527
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: you know from now they even see her for a

528
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: second time to see if, oh, maybe there was a

529
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: connection or maybe there wasn't. So yeah, very difficult unless

530
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: you find most of the girls that I would that

531
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: I date or like have dated, have been either in California,

532
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: where obviously we spend a lot of time, or Chicago,

533
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: which is where I live and where I'm from. So

534
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, when you meet people on the road, even

535
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: though they are amazing and they could be perfect for you,

536
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: you never really get the chance to explore that and really,

537
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: you know, to see if it works out. What about groupies, Um, well,

538
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: you know you don't. Well you know band aids, band

539
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: aids what they're called. I haven't seen Almost Famous. Have

540
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: you seen that movie? It's so good? What do you think? Okay, so,

541
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: if you had your significant other in your actual band,

542
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: do you think that would work out in that way

543
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: or would that just be too much time together? I

544
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: mean so one of the one of the artists on

545
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: my label is this duet group called Fairview. They're a

546
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: duo and their boyfriend girlfriend, and it's very interesting to

547
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,719
Speaker 1: see their dynamic because it's like, man, if they broke up,

548
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: or if they're in a fight, or if they're going

549
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: through something like you kind of can't help but see

550
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: it in like the songs they're writing or the live performance.

551
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's so it's weird, that dynamic. I can't

552
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: imagine it. You know, no doubt that band, Gwen and

553
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: the bass player were dating when they first formed, and

554
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: somehow they broke up and they stayed together and they

555
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: like obviously became amazing, no doubt. But I can't imagine.

556
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: I've had some friends. Another buddy of mine was in

557
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: a band with his girlfriend and she ended up leaving

558
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: him for the band's manager, which was so seazy and

559
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: so shady. Yeah yeah, so man, dating somebody in the band,

560
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: it was, that's a whole new dynamic. I don't think

561
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: I could I can handle that one. Yeah, yes, I

562
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: think like Fleetwood Mac And so I'm like, oh, you know,

563
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: like totally break up, you date somebody else, you know,

564
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: you're kind of all in the mix together. It just

565
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: makes for a good album. Selfishly selfish, Yeah, true, there's

566
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: plenty of drama to write about. I guess right, Oh yeah,

567
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,479
Speaker 1: it would. I feel like that could keep the creative

568
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: juices flowing, for sure, that's true. No, Tom, I want

569
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not the only one who needs

570
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: to ask this and needs to get to know this

571
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: person a little bit more. But one of the most

572
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: popular songs out there. I mean it came out when

573
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: I was I think in high school still and I

574
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: still listen to it to this day. Obviously, hay there Delilah.

575
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: Now we need to know who is Delilah. So first

576
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: of all, I don't know if you guys have seen this,

577
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: but there's been this new wave of hay there Delilah,

578
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: all these like people writing like the Hey They're Corona,

579
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: or just songs about Delilah like TikTok. It's like trending

580
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: on TikTok right now. I don't know how, but it's crazy.

581
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, the actual song is based on an actual girl,

582
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: a girl that I met. She she was She's actually

583
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: from Chicago. So I met her in Chicago and she

584
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: was friends of a friend I was gonna. I was

585
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: hanging out with my one friend Kim, and she was like, Hey,

586
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: my friend Delilah is going back to school tomorrow. She's

587
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: got nothing to do. Can she come? We were going

588
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: to a concert, like, can she come to the concert

589
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: with us? Like, yeah, sure. So we picked this girl

590
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: up and as soon as she walked out her door,

591
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh my god, so beautiful. And so

592
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: she had a boyfriend. So the whole night I'm just

593
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: being goofy, like I know, there's nothing, nothing really gonna

594
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: happen there. So I'm just like just being like I

595
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: don't have any game. I'm just like a goofball. So

596
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: I'm just like being funny or trying to make her

597
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: laugh or whatever. And so when we dropped her off

598
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: that night, I gave her our CD that we had

599
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: out at the time, and I was like, you know,

600
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: I've got a song about you. And she's like, oh cool,

601
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: you know whatever, and she left and I'm just that

602
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: was my my brilliant line, right, And so then she

603
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: went back to school in New York the next day

604
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: and we kept in touch a little bit on Aim.

605
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: Do you guys have any idea about it? Oh yeah,

606
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. So we kept in touch on Aim and

607
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: she would like like she was like loving the CD

608
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: that I gave her of my songs, you know, our

609
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: our song for our album before the one with Hayter

610
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: Delilah obviously, and she was like she kept asking me, so,

611
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: where's my song? When do I get to hear my song?

612
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: And so and it was it was always just super innocent,

613
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: but it was just gave me that little dose of

614
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: like inspiration that I needed. It was like, oh, damn,

615
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: I I guess I do have to write this song

616
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: for her, you know, I do. I do have to

617
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: write her a song, and um, so that's kind of it.

618
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: And so the first couple of lines of the song

619
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: came out of me really quick and easily. You know,

620
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: what's it like in New York City tonight? You look

621
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: so pretty? You know? And then after I got past

622
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: like that first verse, I was like, well, that pretty

623
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: much sums up everything I know about this. So I

624
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: had to kind of imagine the rest of it, Like

625
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: if I was in this long distance relationship with somebody,

626
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: what would I want to say? You know, someday I'll

627
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: pay the bills with this guitar and you know, our

628
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: friends will make fun of us and they don't get

629
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: it and blah blah blah. And you know, so I

630
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: kind of wrote the rest of it basically having to

631
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: be a little bit more creative and think about if

632
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't, you know, in a relationship with somebody, and

633
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: so then yeah, that was kind of the that's basically

634
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: the whole story. I did make a joke with her though,

635
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: when I first, you know, obviously admitted to her, Okay,

636
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: I didn't write a song yet, but I'm going to

637
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be the best song I write, and

638
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna get us famous, and you're gonna be my

639
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: date for the Grammys. And I said all that before

640
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, a note of the song was written, and

641
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: so sure enough, it's I don't know if it's the

642
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: best song I've written, but it's definitely the most famous,

643
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: and you know, got play late Keys on the Map

644
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: and we ended up getting two Grammy nominations for that song.

645
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: And so through the years, as the song came out,

646
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: Delilah would come to shows and she'd be really cool

647
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: and supportive about it. Like literally, we'd play in New

648
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: York and she'd come and she'd we'd be like hanging

649
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: out at the merch table after the show and like,

650
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: oh my god, thanks for coming. She's I'm like, where's

651
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: your where's your dude? Whe's your boyfriend? He's like, oh,

652
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: he's waiting outside. He didn't want to he didn't want

653
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: to come in, but he like like so he like

654
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: half supported her, but was half like no, screw that.

655
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: You know, like course pretty funny. Um, but yeah, she

656
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: was real supportive and cool and everything and so um.

657
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: So when we got nominated for the Grammys, I hadn't

658
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: spoken to her for a few months. You know, we'd

659
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: kind of check in every once in a while, especially

660
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: as the song was like blowing up. You know, we

661
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: kind of had had some funny texts going back and forth,

662
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I heard it at this place or

663
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: you know, some cool stuff like that. Um. And so

664
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: when when we got nominated for the Grammys, I called

665
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: her up and I was like, hey, I just got

666
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: nominated for two Grammys. I'm like, remember when I, you know, wrote,

667
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: before I wrote the song, I said you'd be my

668
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: date for the Grammys. I'm like, well, you got it.

669
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,479
Speaker 1: You gotta common and she's like, well, actually me and

670
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: my boyfriend just broke up. Yeah. So I was like,

671
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: and I'd been in a relationship with somebody and I

672
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: was single at that time too, so I was like,

673
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: whoa is this going to happen? This is like four

674
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: years later or something after meeting her and writing the song, Like,

675
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: is this going to happen like four years later after

676
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: the song it's like a big hit and all this stuff,

677
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: And it was like a moment of time where it

678
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: was like it just kind of was too weird to

679
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: be to be true, you know. And so by the

680
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: time the Grammys actually happened, like two months later, she

681
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: was back with her boyfriend. I was back with my girlfriend,

682
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: but we still went to the Grammys together and you know,

683
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: kind of shared the fun of it. It was like

684
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: a very platonic night, but it was it was fun.

685
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: It was like the prophecy had fulfilled itself, you know. Yeah.

686
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: So do you still stay in touch with her to

687
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: this day? Um? You know what, I haven't really talked

688
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: to her lately. I did this. I was doing this,

689
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: um this live interview or something on TV in New York.

690
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: We when we put our last album out, Parallel Universe,

691
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: they White Tease. We did a bunch of press in

692
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 1: New York and this was just maybe last summer or something,

693
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: and and somebody had said that, like, oh, when's the

694
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: last time you talked to Delilah? And I said, oh, man,

695
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: it's been a while, and they said, well, why don't

696
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: you text her right now? And so on the live interview,

697
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: I like, okay, took up my phone and I just

698
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: texted her, Hey, there no and I sent it and

699
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: she didn't write back. Oh I know, I know. But

700
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: to be fair, that was kind of like a cheesy

701
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: ass text. But still it's like the three am you up? Text? Yeah,

702
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: exactly it is. I have to tell you, Tom, this

703
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: is disappointing because at the time, at the time the

704
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: song came out, I was living in New York City

705
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: and you couldn't tell me. I wasn't Delilah. I was

706
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: bad to everybody. I was like, just like singing the

707
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: song Delilah might as well have been Rachel. It was

708
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: my theme song. I had an internship and so it

709
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: was for that whole summer. It was like my theme song.

710
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: So it resonates with me, just like Begast High school.

711
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: For me, it's like a college experience and it's it's

712
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: you can tell the the I guess it stands the

713
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: test of time. The fact that that song was written

714
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: what like two thousand and four five I think, came

715
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: out in six to seven when it started to really

716
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: catch fire. And now it's twenty twenty and people are

717
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: still using your song and there aren't too many songs.

718
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: Like when I think of Hid There Delilah, I still

719
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: remember exactly where it was the first time I heard it,

720
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: what conversation I was having with one of my friends,

721
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: And that's probably like one of the only songs that

722
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: I can recall in detail, like the first time hearing it.

723
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: So it's it's a really special one. Yeah, that's cool.

724
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: I just got chills with you saying that that's so awesome,

725
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: Like that's crazy. And the fact that you said you

726
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: have no game, it's like you killed the game, you

727
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: wrote a song, then you sing this song about this,

728
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean, like you have the ultimate game. Well, I

729
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: can write a song about you and it can be

730
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: dominated for Grammy. The problem is is that the girl

731
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: that you write the song about never goes for you,

732
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: but it's always you get the other girls because of

733
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: that song. But yeah, it's like I'm serious. Like you

734
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: can ask Tim, our guitar player. He's always saying that

735
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: same thing. He's like, yeah, what what inspires you to

736
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: write the song? Is like a lot of times that

737
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: longing or that you know, it's like, shoot, I need

738
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: to do something to get this girl's attention or to

739
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: like you said, to have some game here, that that's

740
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,479
Speaker 1: my game. But a lot of times she's like, oh,

741
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: that's cute whatever. And then you girls that are like,

742
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: oh my god, why don't you write a song for me?

743
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, oh, i'd be wearing a shirt

744
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: that said I'm Delilah period that shirt we made that

745
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: shirt back in the day, and Delilah actually wore that shirt.

746
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I love that. Oh my god, it makes

747
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: the song so much better. We know the background this.

748
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie when we get off this podcast,

749
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna google Delilah. I need to know more about

750
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: her now. Yeah, she's beautiful. I don't you know what.

751
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: It's funny I should reach out to her in like

752
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: a non cheesy way and just be like, hey, how's

753
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: your quarantine? Like are you okay? You know more than

754
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: just what's up? Or would you say, hey, there, have

755
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: you guys seen all those memes that are like, you know,

756
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: like maybe maybe don't tell me what it's like in

757
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: New York City right now, or you know, just all

758
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: that stuff. It's a perfect timing. Where do you find

759
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: your inspiration? I mean, obviously we get Delilah, we get

760
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: where that comes from, love the story behind it. What

761
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: when it comes to the music that you write, where

762
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: do you find your inspiration to write these beautiful songs?

763
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, a lot of times it's just

764
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. It's like some little little situation

765
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: where either you meet a girl or you go through

766
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: something and if it's just weighing on you a little bit,

767
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: whether it's like, oh my god, she's so amazing, or

768
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: whether it's oh my god, I feel so crappy about

769
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: this thing, I gotta get it off my chest. You know.

770
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: Usually it's just something like that where it's like, man, this,

771
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: I need to get this out. I need to say

772
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: something about this. You know, a lot of times it'll

773
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: come from listening to other music. You know, like you know,

774
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: you'll be listening to something super fresh and you'll be like, Wow,

775
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: that's inspiring, that's so cool, and it makes you want

776
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: to go grab the guitar or go write write some

777
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: thoughts down because I don't know, you want to tap

778
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: into that like excitement that you just felt by someone

779
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: else's music. A lot of times a song will come

780
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: from a title, you know, like You'll have this clever

781
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: little idea and I'll write it down in my notes

782
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: on my phone or something, and then you know, a

783
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: month later, I'll be sitting there and you know, just

784
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: go through them and oh, that was a cool idea,

785
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: and then try to formulate a song around that. So

786
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: it's all kind of different things, you know. I think

787
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: it's there's there's a lot of people. I read this

788
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: book called The War of Art, and it's like, how

789
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people think that like being creative is

790
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 1: this like spiritual light of candle, you know, meditate and

791
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: like hope that something comes at you from the universe

792
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: or something, which, to an extent, there's there's that bit

793
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: of randomness to it, but there's a lot of it.

794
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: It's just you know, checking in, clocking in, and like,

795
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: you know, if I grab my guitar every day and

796
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: just mess around it for fifteen minutes, chances are something's

797
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: going to come come out of it, you know U.

798
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like you just kind of have to

799
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: have to make your own inspiration and just const be

800
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: you know, I love music, and I love writing music,

801
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: and I love just the idea of a song. You know,

802
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: songs are my world. So it's like it's fun to

803
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: just sit down every day and just hack away at

804
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: it until you get something cool. You mentioned finding inspiration

805
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: from another song, so I want to ask, then, what

806
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: is your favorite love song of all time? And then

807
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: also who is one of your favorite artists or bands

808
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: out there? Um, so, my favorite love song? We actually

809
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: the play my t has just made a playlist of

810
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: our favorite love songs. You gotta go check that out.

811
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: Look it up. There's a lot of cool on Spotify.

812
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: There's a lot of cool ones on there. I had

813
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: fun with it. I think I've submitted like forty songs

814
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: or something, and they probably only wanted like ten. But

815
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if this is a technically

816
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: a love song. But you know that song Yesterday by

817
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: the Beatles, Yes, of course, like it's it's kind of

818
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: a broken hearted love song. But but that song, to

819
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: me is the perfect song. It's so beautiful and it

820
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: says so much and it really does speak to love

821
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: and you know the fact that love can be very

822
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, very fragile, you know, and like or fragile,

823
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: I guess is the right way to say it in

824
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: France or something, but yeah, it's just that's that would

825
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: be my go to love song or basically any song.

826
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: I think that's like the best song of all time. Yeah, okay,

827
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: well we will definitely check out that that playlist. We're

828
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: actually putting one together for bad seor right now. And

829
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: so I'm like you where I sent it in way

830
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: too many options, um, and I feel bad for whoever

831
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 1: has to go through. Yeah, pick the actual ones that

832
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: are going on there. But totally it's like favorite movie,

833
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: you know, It's like how do you pick just one?

834
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: It's like you gotta have all all these different different options.

835
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: And too, it's hard when you say when I asked, like,

836
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: what's your favorite love song? Because like you said, you

837
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: don't know if yesterday could be considered a love song,

838
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: but I really think anything can, like when you define

839
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: your own version of love and and so whatever song

840
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: you choose, I mean, that's that's the one. I love that. So, Tom,

841
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: we need to hear from you. Obviously, we loved seeing you.

842
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: We wish we could have seen more of you and

843
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: listen to your heart. But what is coming up for

844
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: both you and the plain White teas anything else that

845
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: we as fans to know about you guys. Um. Yeah,

846
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: so Plain White Tas actually our dropping. So it's been

847
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: fifteen years actually since the album All That We Needed

848
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: came out, which is the first album that had hey

849
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: there Delilah on it, so you know, you were doing

850
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: the math a little while ago, and yeah, Delilah first

851
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: came out in twenty five, so it's been fifteen years.

852
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: It's so crazy. But yeah, so that album, we're doing

853
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: like a little reissue of that album celebrate the fifteen

854
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: year anniversary. It's got a few added bonus tracks of

855
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 1: like live acoustic performances from that time on there. So

856
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: that's what's new for Plain White Teas. Obviously, like I said,

857
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: we had a tour canceled because of all this, So

858
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: as soon as this all lifts, we're going to get

859
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: back on the road and keep playing shows and start

860
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: working on some brand new music. We had an album

861
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: that came out, our latest album, Parallel Universe. We love that.

862
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: We actually played one of the songs for that little

863
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: concert for Listening to Your Heart. So that's basically what's

864
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: near to play my teas for me. I'm just I'm

865
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: writing with a lot of artists Like I said, I

866
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: started a record label called Humans. We're here, so follow

867
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: along to all that stuff. I've got an eighty side

868
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: project called Million Miler that's super fun. It's all like

869
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: synthpop that I'm releasing. So yeah, just staying busy and

870
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 1: just life revolves around music. So pretty cool. It sounds

871
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: really cool. We're excited for everything that you have coming up.

872
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: We can't wait. Like I said, the Bars High, we

873
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: know you're going to be inspired with so much you know, creativity,

874
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: and I just can't wait to hear what you know,

875
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: you do, what your record label does, the artists on

876
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: that and then also with the Plain White Tis So

877
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us on Bachelor Happy Hour.

878
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: You know, we hope to see you again on some

879
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: Bachelor franchise show. You're in the family, all right, Yeah,

880
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: let's just call it call us up. We'll do it.

881
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. And and Tom, if you ever

882
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: need any more inspiration, feel free to write a song

883
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: about Rache and I. Maybe you'll get some grammys off

884
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: there you go back up, Well, this is you know,

885
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: this is the the most female interaction I've had in

886
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: a while, so maybe I will be inspired. Yeah, it's

887
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be called two girls in a closet.

888
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, thanks so much, you'd be safe.

889
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 1: Thank you you too, Thank you by take care bye? Okay, Becca?

890
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: How great was Tom? I love him? I really do.

891
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: I could have kept talking to him. I know you

892
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: could have too. I mean, whether we're talking about hey there, Delilah,

893
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: his time on the show, his bandmate, finding the love

894
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 1: of his life on a reality TV show. I felt

895
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: like we had so much in common with Tom, right,

896
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: I've already done this before. He does have this special

897
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: quality about him where I felt like he was just

898
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: at ease and natural. But I loved diving into his

899
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: story and history with Delilah. I've been wanting to know

900
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: that for a years. So it was great to have

901
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: him on the line. I mean, like I said, it's

902
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: a little disheartening to know it wasn't about me, but

903
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: not everything can be about you, Rachel. So, Rachel, you

904
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: had your own season. Okay, girl, if you're at you're right.

905
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 1: My time is done. It is not by season anymore,

906
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: but it is the season for listening to your heart.

907
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: So what I find so interesting about all of these

908
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: musicians I don't even want to call them contestants. All

909
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: these musicians that are in this mansion together, this beautiful mansion,

910
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: much better than the Bachelor mansion, if I have to

911
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: say so myself. Is that all of them have something

912
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: in common. You know, when we walk in the first night,

913
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: it's like we all have something in common. We're all

914
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,959
Speaker 1: after the same man or woman. You know, that's usually

915
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: what you have in common. You don't think you're going

916
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: to get along with these with the people, at least

917
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 1: that's how I felt. I was like, oh, I'm probably

918
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: not going to make any friends. I'm going to be

919
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: so different, And then you're pleasantly surprised. These musicians walk

920
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: in already knowing we sing, most of us play instruments.

921
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: We already connect because we share this this artistry together.

922
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: We all think the same way. So I think that

923
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: that makes walking in the first night a little bit

924
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: more welcoming, and that kind of comes off through the

925
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: TV screen, you know, Yes, yes, I felt like there

926
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: was a certain warmth when everyone was around with each other.

927
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: It wasn't like you said, when you go into night

928
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: one and you're all kind of going after the same person,

929
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: there's still that level of competitiveness and a little bit

930
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 1: of underlying tension. And in this regard, it's not because

931
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: it's really like everyone has a free for all, Like, yes,

932
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: you're all bonded by your love of music and that creativity,

933
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: but everyone's still like, oh, let's just meet everyone. And

934
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: it's like the I don't remember who said it. One

935
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: of the girls was like, I haven't even talked to

936
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: all the guys yet, and I still want to. It's

937
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: not like they're just going after one person. Yeah, I mean,

938
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: And so it like more war and more welcoming, a

939
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: little less I mean, Okay, I'm gonna say this, it

940
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: felt a little less uh like nerve racking, so to speak.

941
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: But I will say if I walked in and I

942
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: knew everyone was that talented, and everyone was a great

943
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: singer and probably played some instruments, I would be like,

944
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: I am. I would be nervous, I think to get

945
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: around them and to I would just think, like, oh

946
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: my gosh, women, when am I going to have to

947
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: sing in front of all these people? And that's just me.

948
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just because I'm a terrible singer, but um,

949
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: but it had a different feel which I appreciate from

950
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, no, no, no no no. If I had

951
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: to start, you know, like they're just like, oh, getting

952
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: on the piano and play and pull out the guitar,

953
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: I would be like, Um, I have to go to

954
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: the bathroom, excuse me? And I would you ever come back?

955
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: Like Rachel you as you know, coming from your legal background,

956
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: like if you walked into a mansion full of twenty lawyers,

957
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: how would you feel? I don't know. Okay, So then

958
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: maybe I was so different because I would know that

959
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 1: I would be prepared. You know, I went to school

960
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: for this, I've had the training for this, so I

961
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: would feel confident in the skill that I would have.

962
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: So yeah, there'd be it'd be nerve wracking, but at

963
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: least I know i'd be prepared as opposed to you know,

964
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: it's not like we're on the Bachelor Bachelorette. We walk

965
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: into the room and they're like, Okay, you're gonna sing,

966
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: kind of like a group date. Okay, you're gonna sing,

967
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna dance, and you're like, wait a minute, now,

968
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: that's not my forte. So and we see them come

969
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: out of not limos, but SUVs. We see Chris Harrison,

970
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: we see a mansion. We see that they have packages,

971
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: and in true bachelor fashion, there's a love triangle, which

972
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: was great with our girl Jamie, who's good teething from

973
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: the jump. You know, she's good. And I said this

974
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier in the podcast, but I love

975
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: Jamie because for the first couple of minutes that she's there,

976
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: she's like, I don't want drama and I just want

977
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: everyone to have a good time. And of course she's

978
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: the one who said that, so she's the one who's

979
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: gonna get sucked into that most drama. We see her

980
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: kind of go between both Ryan and Trevor and not

981
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: really know what to do. She's into both of them.

982
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 1: They're both into her, and so I kind of feel

983
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: for her. But I will say she is getting more

984
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: of the Bachelor et experience, having multiple guys kind of

985
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: fight over her. Yeah, you can tell Jamie as a

986
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: person who gives her all into whatever it is that

987
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: she's doing. She has a lot of passion. She's a

988
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: big heart because see she wears it a little bit

989
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: on her sleeve, and so she's just all in, you know.

990
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: So we see her she gets there first. Ryan comes in,

991
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: who's such a cutie, they immediately hit it off. They're

992
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: the first people to meet each other, and she's in.

993
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: She's in that thing until trevorson and she's like, wait, wait, wait, wait,

994
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: wait wait, what's your name again? I'm sorry? Is it

995
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: Brian or Ryan? I'm sorry because Trevor just walked in,

996
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure. And which is a lesson learned

997
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: people if you go on these shows that you kind

998
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: of can't put all your eggs in one basket because

999
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: you just never know who's going to walk through the door.

1000
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 1: But this is Jamie. This is almost like the essence

1001
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: of her. What's what you love so much about her?

1002
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: What is so charming because she goes all in So

1003
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: we see her in this love triangle between Jamie and Trevor. So,

1004
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: of course, again in true bachelor fashion, there's a day

1005
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: card given to Ryan and who does he take? Jamie?

1006
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: Of course he does, And you know, I feel for

1007
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: Jamie watching that because they're both cute guys, they both

1008
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: seem sweet, they both kind of I mean, throughout the

1009
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: episode they both sing to her, so it's like, I

1010
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: don't know, I felt for Jamie at the very end

1011
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: of the episode because I was like, shit, I don't know.

1012
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: If I'm in my rose too, I would just have

1013
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: pulled a name out of a hat. At that point,

1014
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: I think, um, and then we get Okay. Another contestant

1015
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: who I really liked too, I still want to talk

1016
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: about is Rudy. Now, I personally, from what I've seen

1017
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: of her, I personal like her. I think she I

1018
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 1: keep saying the word spunky, but she just like seems

1019
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: to have this zest for life. And I also really

1020
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: liked So I was looking up all the contestant bios

1021
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, you know, and this was

1022
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: prior to Rudy singing, and I was like, I want

1023
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: to hear Rudy sing because she's she has the pop

1024
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: R and B background, and so we see her, you know,

1025
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: kind of hit it off with Matt and be into him.

1026
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: But like later on in the episode, when she sings

1027
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: and you feel like the passion behind her emotions, I

1028
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: was like, I want more of her voice. Yeah, no, Rudy.

1029
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: There's definitely a lot to get into with Rudy because

1030
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: Rudy switched it up real fat, real quick and a hurry.

1031
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: So I want to I want to do Rudy, but

1032
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: I definitely want to finish Jamie, Ryan and Trevor. Because

1033
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: something that stood out to me with Ryan and Jamie

1034
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: when they first had that conversation was when he shared

1035
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 1: his story. So it's like, I get why Jamie falls

1036
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: for him because he's cute. She already says, that's my type.

1037
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: You're the typical guy that I go for. And then

1038
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: he tells a story about him having brain surgery when

1039
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: he was only six years old, and you see him

1040
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: but obviously he fought through that because he is where

1041
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: he is today. But he's also this insanely talented musician.

1042
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: So he's got this story of I don't know if

1043
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: the word is redemption, but just this story where he's

1044
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: a fighter. You it resonates with you. You attach that

1045
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: to him in addition to everything else that he presents

1046
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: in the physical way and as far as his talent.

1047
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: So it's like, how in the world do you not

1048
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: pick Ryan? And then Trevor comes in and she falls

1049
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 1: for Trevor. So yes, Ryan gets a date card, takes

1050
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: Jamie on the date, and they go to Capitol Records.

1051
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: Didn't surprise me. Didn't surprise me that they were going

1052
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: to Capitol Records. I had PTSD watching them pull up

1053
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: to Capitol Records because that's where I had a date

1054
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 1: with Chris Randone aka Goose and did he rice we

1055
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 1: had to? Yes, we had to? Did we? I don't

1056
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: even remember what we did on that day. Oh, he

1057
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: had like a freak out panic moment and then we

1058
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: had to sing. And I was mortified. And so when

1059
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: I and I haven't bumped to Capitol Records, I was like,

1060
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: oh no, but obviously, like this is their profession, so

1061
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: it's different for them. People that should be at Capitol

1062
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: Record they belong there. Chris and I not so much. Yeah,

1063
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought it was pretty cool that not

1064
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: only did they go to Capital Records, which I wasn't surprised.

1065
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, musicians are going to Capital Records, but

1066
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: then for them to go in sing a John Mayer song,

1067
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: but then work with the music producer John Ezelia, who

1068
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: worked with John Mayer on the song. So it's they're

1069
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 1: getting the whole experience, which gravity Becca Gravity. I don't

1070
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: know what year that came out in, but I was

1071
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: going through something when that song came out, like that

1072
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: song speaks to me in a whole other way. So

1073
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: when they were like we're going to sing gravity. I

1074
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: thought were Jamie, I would have been crying all the

1075
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: way through it. I would have been like, this song, Oh,

1076
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: it's just it's my favorite John Mayers song. And even

1077
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: before so in my notes, before Ryan took Jamie on

1078
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 1: that date and we knew what they were going to

1079
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: be doing, I wrote that where's my notes, Ryan equals

1080
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: John Mayer is what I wrote. He has the look

1081
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: ye is like John Mayer and just and so when

1082
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm watching them, I was like, of course they're going

1083
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: to sing a John Mayer song because he's basically there. Yeah,

1084
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: I guess I didn't put that together, so maybe they

1085
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: picked that because I mean, who knows, But then did you?

1086
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: Did you see? Though? Moving on from Ryan to Trevor,

1087
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: when Trevor then sings to Jamie later on he sings

1088
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: the slow Dancing in the Burning Room that he actually

1089
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: sang that song to us. But I even said before

1090
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: he started singing us like, don't sing a John Mayer's song,

1091
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: don't sing a John Mayer's song. And of course he does,

1092
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, Trevor would pick a John Mayer

1093
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, I know, but isn't that kind of for me? Personally,

1094
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: I would want to switch it up and to have

1095
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: something so completely different than what she experienced with another man.

1096
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: Can we be messy for a SECONDA who sang the

1097
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: John Mayer song better? Ryan or Trevor? Okay, this could

1098
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: be an unpopular opinion, but I actually like Trevor's voice

1099
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: better than Ryan. Hell no, it was definitely Ryan. It

1100
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: was definitely Ryan saying Ryan. He didn't sing it as

1101
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: well when they were sitting by the fireside chat and

1102
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 1: they told him to put it on the spot when

1103
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: he was in the studio and he sang, I looked,

1104
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Is that that? That voice just come from

1105
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: Ryan whole nother level. He kind of has a Seawan

1106
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: Mendez esque voice. I think, No, he looks like a

1107
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: Sean Mendez. I think he looks like John Mayer. He

1108
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: does look like John Mayer to me, But I mean, like,

1109
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: I don't know they favor Okay, I just looked up.

1110
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 1: Gravity came out in two thousand and five. Okay, around

1111
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 1: the same time There Delia, the same time, Hey, there

1112
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: Delia was going I was going through a breakup at

1113
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: that time. Yeah, that song, so yes, I Jamie definitely

1114
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: also was winning that night. Because she had two very attractive,

1115
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: talented men fighting over her in this first episode and

1116
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: they both sang to her at the same time too.

1117
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: So anyways, I don't know how you say no to

1118
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: Ryan after that date of him singing make this, because

1119
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: he also held her hand because she was really nervous.

1120
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: She and he guided her through that and really kind

1121
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: of carried her through the song. And I thought her

1122
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: voice was amazing too, but it was she said it.

1123
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: She's like, my voice doesn't match. It's not my genre.

1124
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: And I was like, girl, stop, you sound amazing. She

1125
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: and I and that's why. Okay, So fresh off the bat,

1126
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: when we first met Jamie, I liked her, but then

1127
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: watching her on that date, I found her more relatable.

1128
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: I liked the nerves. I liked the fact that, yes,

1129
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: she's an amazing singer and she's on the show for

1130
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: a reason, but she still was hesitant and scared to

1131
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: do that because, like you said, she didn't think it

1132
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: was her genre. It was you know, she was singing

1133
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: with this new handsome man, and so I liked that.

1134
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: I found it very endearing and kind of cute that

1135
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: she she was more you know, hesitant with and at

1136
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: that date at that moment. Um. Okay, I feel like

1137
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: we're jumping all over the place, though, But can we

1138
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: just for one second talk about because we didn't talk

1139
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: about him coming out of the suv um Josh, so

1140
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: he was called another another one of the guys said

1141
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: that he was the jacked mister Clean. He was I

1142
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: phoned him so attractive. I mean his jaw line. Everyone

1143
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: go back if you missed him, just look at his

1144
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: jaw line please. I mean, I remember cackling when the

1145
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: guy said the jacked mister Clean. I was like, Wow,

1146
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: that was really an on point comparison. But he didn't

1147
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: really we didn't really see much of his personality, and

1148
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm such a personality person so I mean, maybe he's great,

1149
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: but I just I couldn't get past the jacked mister clean.

1150
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: I mean, after that he lived on a bottle of

1151
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: cleaning supplies for me, and I just never saw anything

1152
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: past that. So I don't want to talk about the

1153
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: endings just yet, what happens with this love triangle. But

1154
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: you mentioned Rudy and that fabulous voice of hers, So

1155
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Rudy and Matt because we

1156
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: see Rudy hit it off with that super quick, and

1157
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, we don't even need to keep at

1158
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: least I was like, I don't even need to keep

1159
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: paying attention to him. This is a done deal. They

1160
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: seem to really connect. She's into him, he's into her.

1161
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: And then we see that awkward moment in the hot tip.

1162
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: What what did you take on that, Like, did you

1163
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: think it was awkward or did you understand where Rudy

1164
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: was coming from? Um? No, it was definitely awkward. It was.

1165
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: And this is something that I wanted to ask you

1166
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: because Matt asked, Rudy, do you judge a person by

1167
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: how they kiss? So, Rachel, I'm gonna let's let's talk

1168
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: about this, and then I'm gonna ask you the same question.

1169
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: It was weird because it's like I can see both sides.

1170
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: I can see why Rudy maybe wants to wait because

1171
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: she wants to still talk to some of the other

1172
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: guys and not, as you said, throw all the eggs

1173
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: in one basket. But if you're feeling someone, you're feeling someone,

1174
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: and in this scenario, you don't have all the time

1175
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: in the world, so you really want to try to

1176
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: make a connection. And it seems like they were it

1177
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: seems like they were both really into each other. And

1178
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: so when she when he asks her that and then

1179
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: she you know, goes underwater and then pops up and

1180
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: it is just like talking her makeup. I'm like, this

1181
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: is ruoney in the moment, like he just wants to see,

1182
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: like he wants a kiss. He's not being awkward like

1183
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: how Michael Todd was saying, Oh, I like your lips,

1184
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: Like he's asking her a question about it to see

1185
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: where it can maybe go. So it was kind of

1186
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: a letdown, and I think that's where their problems started

1187
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: because then Matt walked away being like, I don't know,

1188
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: I thought it was going great and she kind of

1189
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: just like flipped and didn't want to like see where

1190
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: this could go type of thing. Um it was. It

1191
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: was awkward, yeah, I mean I definitely was like, Okay,

1192
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: they're they're flirty. You agreed to get in the hot tub. Girl.

1193
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: You agreed to take off your clothes, get into a

1194
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: little bathing suit, get in the hot tub where things

1195
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: get hot and steamy. You have to be close to

1196
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: each other, you're wet, I mean, and then you have

1197
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: your aerial moment where you dip yourself in the pool

1198
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: rise or the hot tub, arise from it, slick your

1199
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: hair back, and it's like you're turning this man on.

1200
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: I just felt like it wasn't awkward for him to

1201
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: insinuate that they kiss if she didn't want to. I

1202
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: also understand that because I too did not want to

1203
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: kiss anybody the first night of the Bachelorette, and then

1204
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: I went all in with Brian because I was, like

1205
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: you said, Beck, I thought, Okay, I'm just gonna be

1206
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: in the moment. I'm not gonna push it away. But

1207
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: I felt like he was hinting at it. So Rudy

1208
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: could have played it better. She could have kind of

1209
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,959
Speaker 1: been like, m I know where you're going. I want

1210
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: to kiss you too. I want to go there. I

1211
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: like you, I'm feeling you, but I kind of want

1212
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: to save it for it another day, like if you

1213
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: get a date car, take me on a one on

1214
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: one or I'll take you, and let's save it for

1215
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: a second, because I promised myself I wouldn't kiss somebody

1216
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: the first night, you know what I mean. She could

1217
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: have played it in a different way. Instead, it was like,

1218
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: you want to get out of the hot tub, Okay,

1219
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: let's go Yeah, she's just more worried about like, oh, woman,

1220
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: makeup's running now and I look terrible and what it

1221
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: was just weird? Um, but rich, I do want to

1222
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: ask you, because Matt asked her this, do you judge

1223
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: a person by how they kid? I'm a kisser. I'm

1224
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: a kisser, But I also feel like I'm not gonna

1225
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: judge you on the first impression. Sometimes maybe you're nerve,

1226
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: maybe you're a little awkward. So there have been times

1227
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: where I'm like, and this happened on the bat strette.

1228
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: I can rehabilitate you. I can teach you how to

1229
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: kiss better. Maybe you haven't. Maybe you haven't learned. Maybe

1230
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: you haven't kissed somebody with full lips like this. Maybe

1231
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: like nobody's taught you sometimes should be taught. You know,

1232
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: the same thing goes for sex. So I thought, Okay,

1233
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: I can rehabilitate you. That doesn't always work. Then I'm

1234
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: judging you by your kiss because if you can't kiss right,

1235
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: you can't do anything right to me physically. That's just

1236
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: how I feel like kissing. That's bad. That's like first base,

1237
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, how are we going to run the

1238
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: second If you don't know how to kiss me well,

1239
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: I want to Well, I won't put you on the spot,

1240
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: but I do want to know who is the worst kisser.

1241
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I will without a doubt. I can

1242
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,439
Speaker 1: tell you off the bat who it was, and I'll

1243
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: tell you off camera because I like this person and

1244
01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to be rude. We'll share. I'm gonna

1245
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: call you after this, we'll chat. But I agree. I

1246
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: do think, uh, like when you when when you have

1247
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: that connection with someone for the most part, I mean,

1248
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: I've only had a couple bad kisses in my life.

1249
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: Like for the most part, most people have been pretty good,

1250
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: especially when you're into someone. Um, but yes, people like you,

1251
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: you need to be a good kisser. Yeah, Like it's

1252
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: a there's a language with it, there's a movement, a rhythm,

1253
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: and if we can't get it there, we're not going

1254
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: to find that rhythm anywhere. You know, Thank you, So

1255
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: I do. There's a song about it if you want

1256
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: to know if he loves you, so, it's in his kiss.

1257
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: That's where it is. Where it is. I don't know

1258
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: why it is. I I don't even know the rest

1259
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 1: of the words. I just know that part I love.

1260
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: If you wanna know if he loves you. So we

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01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: did that last episode. Let's not do that again. Cut

1262
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: that part out. That was a fun game. I want

1263
01:04:53,480 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: to do that every day. Well that's hard pass. H Okay.

1264
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: So I totally understand Matt for not for reading Rudy like, oh,

1265
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: maybe she's just not that into me. If she didn't

1266
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: want to give me a kiss, he was probably thinking

1267
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: I read it wrong. So let me not put all

1268
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: my eggs in one basket and let me go talk

1269
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: to someone else. So I get why he moved on

1270
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: to Mel. I totally understand why he took Mel on

1271
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: the date. What I don't understand because we see he

1272
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: gets a date card and he picks Mel and they

1273
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: go on the plane white Teas date, and we didn't

1274
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: really see much of that. But what I don't understand

1275
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,439
Speaker 1: is whatever this conversation was that Rudy and Matt had

1276
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: that led Rudy to believe that he was taking her

1277
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: on a date. And then he makes the comment, well,

1278
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: I thought that's what I was supposed to do. And

1279
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm confused, do you I'm so confused. Maybe you understood it.

1280
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: It was confusing, And I will say, so, you know,

1281
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: night one, we see that awkward interaction with Matt and

1282
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: Rudy go on to the next day. You really don't

1283
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: see Matt and Mel that much, like you see the

1284
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: moment where he pulls her away to chit chat, and

1285
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: then of course he goes and pulls Rudy. But like

1286
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: when he was when he was gonna say a name

1287
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: to go on that date, I thought he was going

1288
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: to say Rudy. So I don't know where the disconnect was.

1289
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: Obviously there's more that we didn't see go down that

1290
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: they can't put into a show. But I mean, and

1291
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: we don't see the moment where apparently, as Rudy said,

1292
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: Matt had told her he was going to pick her,

1293
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: and I wish we could, so we'll really never know.

1294
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: But do you think that he picked Mel to make

1295
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: her jealous? Like he never was into Mel, He was

1296
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: just trying to see, let me see if this lights

1297
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: a fire under Rudy. I don't know. I think honestly,

1298
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: I think it was just him being a dude and

1299
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: like not thinking straight. I just I never saw it

1300
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: before up until that point, him really talking to mellor

1301
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: seeing any sort of connection there. So and of course

1302
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: we didn't see it on the date. I just think

1303
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: he I don't know. I think that there's a lot

1304
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: that we didn't see, and I think that I don't

1305
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: know how much I want to say here. I think

1306
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: that like like Paradise, we've seen it before, where you

1307
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: think someone's going to pick a certain person and they don't,

1308
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's time apart deciding who

1309
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: to pick, and like, I don't know, I think that's

1310
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: kind of what played into it. But I mean, rightly, so,

1311
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: if if Matt did tell Rudy in that conversation that hey,

1312
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to pick you for this date, I'll be

1313
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: right back. I'll come get to you in a little bit,

1314
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd be just as pissed as she as

1315
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: she was. I mean, i'd probably hold it in and

1316
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: deliver it differently. But if that was the actual conversation,

1317
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: rightly so, she should be upset. And I do love

1318
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: that she well, I love that she told him off.

1319
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: At first, I was kind of like, well, this is

1320
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: a little a lot too soon, because if I was mad,

1321
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: I would be like, wait a minute, now I'm seeing

1322
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: a totally different side of her, which side is the

1323
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: real Rudy? But then I understood if he did say

1324
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: those things to her why she was upset. I was also, well,

1325
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that part yet, but I was.

1326
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm glad that she did that. But selfishly, this sounds

1327
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: so bad, y'all. Don't don't get mad at me for

1328
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: saying this. I'm so sad that Rudy had her heartbroken

1329
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: that night. But raise your hand right now if you

1330
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 1: were a little excited that you also got that beautiful

1331
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: song out of Rudy because she was heartbroken, I said, well,

1332
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: music could make the best, like the best songs. She

1333
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 1: sang that smile song. I said, oh, thank you, Matt,

1334
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 1: Thank you Matt. We'll breaking got this beautiful song. Yeah,

1335
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: and we would not have gotten that. We wouldn't have

1336
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: heard her had he not picked Mel for this date.

1337
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I, like I said earlier, I want to

1338
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 1: hear Rudy sing more. Her vocal like that in that moment.

1339
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: You helped the passion, You felt the motion behind her words,

1340
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,799
Speaker 1: and it was like velvet like her voice in that moment.

1341
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: So I want to hear more of her. You guys,

1342
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: Rudy Butter get a rose next week and keep her room,

1343
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: because I want to hear more of that. Chris is

1344
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: insanely talented. And we didn't really talk about Chris because

1345
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: Chris and Brie hit it off and like, there's no drama,

1346
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: their natural surprise couple. But I'm glad, Well, Okay, what

1347
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: I was going to say is even Chris is so

1348
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: insanely talented, and he's always on the piano getting music started,

1349
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: and his reaction when Rudy started singing, he was like, oh, like,

1350
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting that. I was like, Chris, we are

1351
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: all of you at the moment. But what I was

1352
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: going to say about Chris and Bree is there's really

1353
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,839
Speaker 1: not much to say about him because there's no drama.

1354
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: But what I love about the Chris and Bree relationship

1355
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:47,839
Speaker 1: is that that is that's what makes this whole process beautiful.

1356
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: You think you have a type, you think you know

1357
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: exactly who you're going to date because of what you've

1358
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: dated before, and then you step into this bubble, this world,

1359
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: and you have all the outside to tractions moved away

1360
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,959
Speaker 1: and all that outside noise and you're really just focusing

1361
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 1: on what it is that you want for yourself, and

1362
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 1: you are so beautifully surprised and it may be someone

1363
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 1: that you never thought that you were going to be with. Bore.

1364
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: I mean, like I can honestly say that about Brian,

1365
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: Like I was attracted to Brian, but I got to

1366
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,719
Speaker 1: really see him in the bubble and now we're married.

1367
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: And so I see that with Brie and Chris, like

1368
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: they that they're like a beautiful surprise. I wouldn't have

1369
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: known that they would have been together, and I bet

1370
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 1: they would say the same thing, well, and they're I mean,

1371
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 1: we didn't see too too much of them in that

1372
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: first episode, but we did see a moment for like

1373
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: two minutes where they were sitting down kind of you know,

1374
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,799
Speaker 1: holding each other's hands to each other's legs on the couch,

1375
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 1: and that moment, it was just cute. And that's what

1376
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 1: I wrote in my notes. It was a cute moment

1377
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 1: where she's like, I'm serious when I tell you I

1378
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 1: feel like we have a connection and I want you

1379
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: to be holding my hand and he is reciprocating that,

1380
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 1: and it's like they're kind of I mean, it's like

1381
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: a new relationship blossom. And I felt like it's like

1382
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: that new young love like where you get it started

1383
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: in high school and it's just sweet. It was just

1384
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: a sweet, sweet moment. And then one other little triangle

1385
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: that we see go down, and we'll just touch on

1386
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: this quickly because it wasn't as juicy as the other ones,

1387
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 1: I felt like. But between Julia and her two men,

1388
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 1: I mean, we had Sheridan who was chasing after her,

1389
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: and then also it was Josh, right, Josh was involved too. Yeah,

1390
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: I think Josh. Josh was really into Julia. Yes, So

1391
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: between those two, I mean, from how we saw the

1392
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: conversations play out, I knew at that Rose ceremony she

1393
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 1: was going to pick Sheridan because they just showed more

1394
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 1: than like he he wrote that new song for her,

1395
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: He's saying to her. That night they shared that kiss. Yes,

1396
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: she also shared a kiss with Josh. But I knew,

1397
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: I knew watched it. It was like, it's gonna be Sheridan.

1398
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: Hand's down. Yeah, I'm glad it Sheridan, I like sharedon

1399
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: he stands out, Thank God, Michael Todd. Okay, So we

1400
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: get to the Rose ceremony, we pretty much see Jamie's

1401
01:11:56,360 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: surprise surprise she picks Ryan. No, Jamie, see, because in

1402
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 1: my mind she should have picked Ryan. That's what I

1403
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 1: was thinking poor Ryan gave us all, went on a date,

1404
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: was like, what more could I have done? But thank god,

1405
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,560
Speaker 1: Rudy saves him. Thank goodness. She also doesn't give it

1406
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 1: to Matt. I like that she stood strong in her beliefs.

1407
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: But we see Cheyenne, it's her name. Cheyenne gives her

1408
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: rose to Matt. Brie and Chris of course give it

1409
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: to each other. We see Savannah give hers to Brandon,

1410
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 1: and Julia gives hers to Sheridan, and Mel gives hers

1411
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: to Gaye because they had a bit of a connection

1412
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: to Yes. So I guess, oh, I think goodness, Michael

1413
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: Todd is gone. The guy who was there just to

1414
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: advance his music career, beatbox songwright, play the guitar, singing

1415
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: like it awkwardly kiss people talk about nice lips. I mean,

1416
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: he was just the most. He did what he means

1417
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 1: to do. He was recognized. Now he can move on,

1418
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 1: so moving forward, I mean, I, oh, no, we have

1419
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: to do a rosen Thorn of the week. My rose

1420
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: goes to Ryan because I feel like he gave his all,

1421
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 1: poor thing, and it still didn't work out for him.

1422
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping in the future it does. And my

1423
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: thorn goes to Michael Todd. Obviously, I mean the man

1424
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: had to go. He was a thorn and everybody's side

1425
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: this episode. Yes, my thorn would also go to Michael Todd. Again,

1426
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: I have an X through his name. That's all I

1427
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 1: have to say. My rose, though, I'm gonna give it

1428
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: to Rudy because she and I know this is probably

1429
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 1: gonna be an unpopular opinion. Some people are gonna be like, oh, well,

1430
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: she was too much, she freaked out on Matt. It

1431
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 1: was over the top. I don't think so. And her vocals,

1432
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: like that song itself here and her sing that gets

1433
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: my rose. So there you go. No, it was great. Okay,

1434
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,799
Speaker 1: So we hope you guys, if you have didn't watch

1435
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 1: last night, maybe listening to this episode really let you

1436
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: know that you're missing something great. And it's only the

1437
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: first episodes. We have so much more to watch. We

1438
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: got a little bit of a tease and we've seen

1439
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 1: some promos, so I guess moving forward, we know that

1440
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 1: there are more people to come in the house, which

1441
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: I can't wait because everybody's been insanely talented. There's like

1442
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 1: everyone has a story, so I'm excited to see who's coming.

1443
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: I believe it's going to be some women that are

1444
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: coming in. It has to be right, because we eliminated

1445
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: four mints, We've got to get some women in here.

1446
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna be three new girls next week that come

1447
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,839
Speaker 1: into the house. M And as we've seen in the teaser,

1448
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: a shocking relation is made about one of the contestants

1449
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: past relationships. Wh you need some drama of a past

1450
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: relationship in any season people, Yes, And we know that

1451
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: they're going to be four date cards next episode, so

1452
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: that means more dates, more connections, and probably more breakups,

1453
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 1: more dramas, which is great. More drama. Um And I

1454
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 1: would imagine that everyone was on their best behavior in

1455
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 1: this episode, so I'm pretty sure that we're going to

1456
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 1: see some things. All I can say is is it's

1457
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 1: been already known that I'm on an episod so earlier,

1458
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:02,759
Speaker 1: so I know you're about to see some true colors

1459
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: if some people come out, because I saw it on

1460
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: the episode that I was on, And I'm just gonna

1461
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 1: leave you right there. I'm just gonna right there. No,

1462
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Like you said, everyone's always on their

1463
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: best behavior. Night one that can't last very long. So

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