1 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory. 2 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: M Channeler roam along with Tyler Stafford. After the Astros 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 1: got absolutely boat raced by the Boston Red Sox on 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Tuesday night at dyk In Park, Chas McCormick pitched the 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: ninth inning. A big day from Millersville University as one 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: of their own got to pitch in a big league game. 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: Chas McCormick facing Alex Bregman was not something I had 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: on my bing new card when this series started. But 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: baseball you see something different every time you go to 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: the ballpark. The run differential, the margin of loss is 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: what it is. They could have lost two to one, 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: they could have lost fourteen to one. It all counts 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: the same. Because the Mariners went to Baltimore, they beat 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: the Orioles one to nothing, and now the two teams 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: are in a dead heat. The Mariners and the Astros 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: are now tied atop the American League West. The Astros 17 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: led this division by seven games on July seventh. I've 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: been having some spirited conversations this morning on various social 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: media platforms because, in a story that posted on the 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: Athletic this morning I used I use the words squandered. 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: In the story. 22 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,639 Speaker 1: The headline has that the Astros have squandered a seven 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: game lead in the division. 24 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: Some people are. 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: Very not happy that I used that verb to characterize it. Tyler, 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: I think two things can be true. The Mariners are 27 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 1: on an unreal heater. Like they're ten and one since 28 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 1: the deadline. They are playing as good as any team 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: in baseball not named the Milwaukee Brewers. 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: They look legit. They are on an unreal heater. 31 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: But at the same time, the Ashers are twelve and 32 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: eighteen in their past thirty games, and among those eighteen losses, 33 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: they lost four times to the A's, They lost a 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: game to the Nationals. They lost three games to a 35 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Cleveland Guardians team that came in on a ten game 36 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: losing streak. This is an equal parts thing here. The 37 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: Astros have not played well for about a month and 38 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: a half now. They have not played as consistent as 39 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: we've seen them play. But the Mariners have also just 40 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: played out of their minds for about a month now. 41 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like Tolkien once said. And also, every target, 42 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 3: you know, little little sign that you can buy. Not 43 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: all who squander are lost. So you know. It's yeah, 44 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: it's been rough. The Astros have been running out a 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 3: tria a team for the better part of the last 46 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: two months, and now they're in a dead heat. But again, 47 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: if you had told me at the beginning of the 48 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 3: season on August thirteenth, all you have to do is 49 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 3: win more games than the Mariners over the last month 50 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: and a half, I think I would take that. I 51 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: still think the Astros are a good team. They're i'd 52 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: like to say they're getting healthier, but you know, that's 53 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,119 Speaker 3: that's another issue we're going to have to deal with. 54 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see. It's It's gonna be a really 55 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: fun end of the season. I'm looking forward to it. 56 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: I don't think the Astros are this bad. I don't 57 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: think the Mariners are this good. I do think that 58 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: they are roughly equal teams, just like we talked about 59 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: before the season. I still think that's true. But yeah, 60 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 3: I mean, the the Mariners are really good. We've we've 61 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: been saying that for a while, especially when it's just 62 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 3: the two of us and we don't have to yell 63 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: at Josh for saying that the Mariners lineup is bad. 64 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 3: They're a good team, you know, and so the Astros 65 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 3: are gonna have to find ways to win without Josh Hater. 66 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: Hopefully Jordon can come back. I saw, you know he 67 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: might start taking some live BP at some point. I mean, 68 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: I think we're gonna get three weeks tops of Jordon 69 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: at this point if you get anything out of him. 70 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: But outside of the boat racing last night, you know 71 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: they've played better over the the past week or so. Huge, 72 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: huge homecoming for a superstar. Taylor Swift has announced her 73 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: new album, so you know it's a big week for 74 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 3: all of us here it is. Taylor declined our request 75 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 3: to come on the podcast. Apparently she is only able 76 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 3: to go on New Heights with the Kelsey Brothers. Are 77 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 3: you going to watch it in the press box today? 78 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: I mean probably it will give me something to do. 79 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know why the Kelsey Brothers have 80 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: such a hold on her. I'm not sure what their 81 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: relationship is with her, but anyway, they big get by 82 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: them to have her on the podcast. Some perspective before 83 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: we get into more injuries and more grim news, Tyler, 84 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: would you like to guess what was going on on 85 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: August eleventh last year? August eleventh, twenty twenty four, So 86 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: that was three hundred and sixty seven days ago. No 87 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: Hunter Brown started against the Boston Red Sox. 88 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 3: Uh. 89 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: The Astros won that game ten. 90 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: To two to move into a tie atop the American 91 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: League West with the Seattle Mariners. 92 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: So again there's some perspective here. 93 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: Literally, at this time last year, both of these teams 94 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: were tied atop the West, and we saw how the 95 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: season ended. Now that Mariners team was obviously far had 96 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: less vibes, was far more deficient than this one. They 97 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: fired their manager a couple of weeks later. That team 98 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: was in disarray and could not hit. This Mariners team 99 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: has the has the view and the vibes that it's 100 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: a little bit different. I do want to, I do 101 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: want to, you know, maybe correct one thing I said earlier. 102 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: I said the Astros have not played well for about 103 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: a month. I think that's a little harsh. You know, 104 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: if they win tonight, if they win the game tonight, 105 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: that Hunter Brown is going to start against the Red Sox, 106 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: they will have won three series in a row, three 107 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: three game series in a row, one against the Miami Marlins, 108 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: who when they rolled into that ballpark were the hottest 109 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: team in the National League. They won one against the 110 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: Yankees and the Bronx, and then if they win to night, 111 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: they'll win us here. Like that's not bad and it 112 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: was funny. I was talking to Carlos Korea after the 113 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: game last night, and the one thing I said was like, 114 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: it really doesn't seem like you guys have played poorly, 115 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: especially since the deadline. Even if you look at the deadline, 116 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: you know they're five and six since the deadline. The 117 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: Mariners are ten to one. They played really poorly in Boston. 118 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: They did not play well at Fenway Park. They got swept. 119 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: They were in the bases like crap. They they they 120 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: were kicking the ball around. It was not a good showing. 121 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: But since then they've played five. But when you look 122 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: at the grand scheme of things, when you go twelve 123 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: and eighteen in a thirty game stretch, I don't care 124 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: who you're running out there. 125 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: You know, Joe A. 126 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: Spada has said it since these injuries began, no one's 127 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: gonna feel sorry for us, and no one's going to 128 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: make excuses. 129 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: I mean, this is professional sports. 130 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: Like this isn't like, oh man, the varsity quarterback got 131 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: heard at Podunk Junior High or Podunk High School. So 132 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: we got to fold it in like, no, these are 133 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: professional sports, like next man steps up, and no one's 134 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: gonna feel sorry for the Astros. 135 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: So, yes they've had. 136 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: Injuries, Yes they are playing okay, but when you put 137 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: them up against the mirrors, marriage is playing better. And 138 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of two of these things. 139 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: That the Astras have certainly not been at the point 140 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: where they were in June. They have not played to 141 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: that proficiency. But you got to give the Mariners some 142 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: credit as well. 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I don't 177 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: know why. I used to read a ton of Harry 178 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: Houdini books as a child, and so I'm very aware 179 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: of that punch in the gut. But it would be tough, 180 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 3: especially if that punch in the gut was from an 181 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: arm that normally throws ninety seven mile an hour sinkers. 182 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was foreboding to hear Joe A. 183 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: Spotta describe Josh Hater's placement on the injured list as 184 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: a punch in the gut. As of this recording, we 185 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: still don't know the severity of the left shoulder strain 186 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: that sent Josh Hater to the injured list. He was 187 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: seeing additional doctors yesterday before the game. Was not at 188 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: the ballpark that I saw. I assumed that meant they were. 189 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: Joe Spotta did say they we're getting more tests and 190 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: trying to determine the severity. Suffice to say, it did 191 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: not sound great. Usually when you have a shoulder strain 192 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: that those are these are not the sort of injuries 193 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: that just you're back in fifteen days. You're back in 194 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: the requisite fifteen days. You know, even if I think 195 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: if even if they get best case scenario news, I 196 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: don't think Josh Hater's picking up a baseball within the week. 197 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: That would be kind of foolish too, anyway, especially when 198 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: you have this much money invested in a guy for 199 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: the next you know, four and a half years. First 200 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: of all, before we get into like what it does 201 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: to the bullpen. I found this fascinating. 202 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: Tyler. You know, he has never been on the injured 203 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: list his entire career. 204 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's impressive. That's uh, that's tough to do. 205 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,479 Speaker 3: I saw he had like one COVID. 206 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he tested positive for COVID in twenty twenty one 207 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: and had I mean he had to go on the 208 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: COVID ale that those are the rules at the time. 209 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: But he has never been on the like again, work 210 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: with me here. He has never been on the IL 211 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: for a physical ailment. I understand COVID is a is 212 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: a virus, I get it, but it is a physical 213 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: He has never been on the IL for a physical 214 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: ailment like this. So he has been a portrait of 215 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: health for his whole career. I know that there were 216 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: some that immediately started pointing to the outing on Friday 217 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: in the Bronx when he threw a season high thirty 218 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: six pitches across two innings. You got to remember, too, 219 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: Josh Hater was pretty steadfast. Before signing this contract with 220 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: the Astros. He had not pitched more than one inning 221 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: in a regular season game since twenty twenty. Since becoming 222 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: an Astro last season, he has pitched multiple innings fourteen 223 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: times in one hundred and nineteen regular season appearances. It 224 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: is something that he has committed to do. It is 225 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: something that the Astros are committing to let him do. 226 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: When that happens, you can't have it both ways. You 227 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: can't send him out for the second inning at Yankee 228 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: Stadium and then he's got two outs, but the tying 229 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: runs at the plate. He's at thirty one pitch and 230 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: you're like, you know, don't want Josh Hater to throw 231 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: six more pitches. Let me go get him for whoever 232 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: you have warming up. 233 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 3: I think, can we put that to bed real quick? 234 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: Why did Josh Hater not want to throw more than 235 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: one inning for the Milwaukee. 236 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: Brewers Because he wanted to save because he knew we 237 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: wanted to save himself for free agency. He wanted to 238 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: get a big deal. He wanted to get a he 239 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: wanted to get a contract. The contract that he got, 240 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: and then when he got to that podium when they 241 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: introduced him, was it last December? He said, they made 242 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: an investment in me, so I'm going. 243 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: To invest in them. And that was him saying I'm 244 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: going to do whatever they asked me to do. 245 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: So in twenty eighteen, the Brewers went to the playoffs 246 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: and Josh Hater had a couple of games in those 247 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: playoffs where he threw three innings in relief. He kind 248 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: of did the Andrew Miller role where he came out. 249 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: And then the next year the Brewers took him to 250 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 3: arbitration and talked about, you know why they didn't want 251 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 3: to pay him as much money as he was looking for, 252 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: and Hater decided, Okay, if you're only going to look 253 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 3: at saves and if that's all that you're gonna value 254 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 3: me on, then I'm not pitching more than an inning. 255 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: And that's that's why it's not that he wasn't physically 256 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: able to do it. I mean, I hate to keep 257 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: bringing up the twenty fifteen hooks. But he was a 258 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 3: starting pitcher for the Astros and was really, really good. 259 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 3: It's not like he is not capable of throwing thirty 260 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 3: five pitches. And in that game against the Yankees he 261 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 3: averaged ninety six to seven on his sinker. Like, it's 262 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: not like he was throwing ninety two and you're like, 263 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: what's wrong with this guy out there? That's not the 264 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: reason and it's not that he's not capable of throwing 265 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: that long. There were different circumstances. So just putting that 266 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: out there for that argument. 267 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he threw thirty six pitches, that was his 268 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: season high, don't get me wrong. But he had also 269 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: he threw thirty five pitches on opening Day. He had 270 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: thrown thirty five pitches in another outing and thirty two 271 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: pitches in an out in this season, So it's not 272 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: as if it was this massive outlier of he had 273 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: only had eighteen to twenty two pitches all season and 274 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they. 275 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: Spiked him the thirty six. 276 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: But for the record, did ask Joe Spotty yesterday how Hater, 277 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: at least in his conversations with Hater, how he bounced 278 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: back after that outing on Friday. Joe said that he 279 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: came in on Saturday and played catch as he usually does. 280 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: Bear in mind that Josh Hater warmed up on Sunday 281 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: to pitch in the Bronx. He would have pitched the 282 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: ninth inning of that game if the Astros had not 283 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: scored three runs to eliminate a save situation. So he 284 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: was healthy and ready to pitch on Sunday. This injury occurred, 285 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: according to Joe Spota, on Monday when he got to 286 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: the ballpark, was doing some of his weighted ball pliometric 287 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: exercises that he always does before he goes out and throws, 288 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: and felt something then and reported it to the training staff. 289 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: And here we are again, as I will reiterate, and 290 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: as everyone that has a baseball podcast will reiterate, pictures, 291 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: what they do is not natural. They are meant to break. 292 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: And I'm not insinuating that Josh Hater is broken. But 293 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: when you throw overhand, when you throw as hard as 294 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: Josh Hater throws, it is quite frankly a miracle that 295 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: he made nine major league seasons without requiring just a 296 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: trip to the injured list. So it comes at just 297 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: an awful time. And Tyler, I don't know about you, 298 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: but if you would have given me, if you would 299 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: have asked me, who are the ash who are the 300 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: players on this team that they cannot afford to lose 301 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: Josh Hater. I don't know if he would have been 302 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: at the top of the list. I think that's probably 303 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: fromber but Josh Hater would have been second or third. 304 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: He is It is going to be really really hard 305 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: to replace his presence. 306 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: It is. 307 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 3: It's going to be very difficult. Puts a ton of 308 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: pressure on Brian Abrayu, who is you know, capable of 309 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: doing that? But boy, that that bullpen looks real scary. 310 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: Outside of that. Now, we did get a new lefty 311 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: reliever yesterday in Chas McCormick, so you you replace one 312 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 3: with another. But yeah, it's that's that's a scary person 313 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 3: to lose. You just hope that somehow he is able 314 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: to come back for the playoffs and be Josh Hater again, 315 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 3: because I don't I I don't know what you do 316 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: in in a playoff series. If you just have Brian 317 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: a bra it's not even a bullpen anymore. It's just 318 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 3: one bowl out there just waiting to come in. Yeah, 319 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that's a that's a huge loss. 320 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I will say with they have to get 321 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: there first. But if they get into the playoffs, you know, 322 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: that is a situation where your rotation shrinks. You're gonna 323 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: need Hunter Brown fromer Valdez and maybe one. 324 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: Or two other starters. 325 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: So whether it's Tavier Arrighetti whomever, everyone else can go 326 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: in the bullpen, so they will be able to backfill 327 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: some of these vacancies in a in a worst case 328 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: scenario world where Josh Hater is not available for them 329 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. 330 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 3: If they get there, is there another pitcher making like 331 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 3: seventeen million dollars or so that could we can we 332 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: be in the bullpen? 333 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: Can we not do this? Please? Don't. 334 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: This has already been it's ten it's ten am, and 335 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: this has already been too much of a day. Let's 336 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: not even broach that subject. 337 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: So, Yeah, he's gonna be so good in the bullpen 338 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Oh, it's gonna be awesome. 339 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 2: I'm not even touching that. 340 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: He's gonna make a rehab start on Friday and sugar 341 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: Land if any if anybody wants to go watch in 342 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: the one hundred and fifty degree heat. 343 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 3: That's Cullors junior, some of former Major League believer Lance 344 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 3: mccullor senior. 345 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: Who famously came out of the bullpen in two thousand 346 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: in eighteen at points, I. 347 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 3: Remember, yeah, do you remember in uh was it eighteen 348 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 3: that he did the curveballs or was it seventeen? 349 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: That was seventeen he did the curveballs. But eighteen was 350 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: when he be pretty cool. Eighteen is when he tore 351 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: his UCL But yeah, that's crazy, but pitched through it 352 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: and tried to come back as a reliever in the playoffs. 353 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: I think that is one thing. Not to get off 354 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: on a tangent here. 355 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 3: But the fan not a tangent anymore. That's a legit. 356 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 3: Like who else is going to be in the bullpen? 357 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: Like that's that's a real thing that we're going to 358 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: have to discuss. 359 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but what I was going to intend the fan 360 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: vitriol toward Lance McCullers. I get it, he is, he's 361 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: been it's been tough. It's been a tough few years 362 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: for him. But I was talking about this with someone yesterday. Actually, 363 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's not trying to get hurt. And when 364 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: he did get hurt. He was getting hurt in an 365 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: effort to, you know, help them win a World Series. 366 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, he pitched through a torn ligament in 367 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: his elbow in the playoffs. That that should be amended 368 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: and not criticized. But I understand you know. 369 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 3: That you torn a ligament before. 370 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 2: I haven't torn anything before. 371 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 3: So I tore my shoulder. 372 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: I'll get you in touch with Josh Haten. 373 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 3: Yes, thank you. I tore my shoulder in college playing 374 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 3: innermural football, and I well, it was mostly torn, and 375 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: then I went and I was playing frisbee golf up 376 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 3: in Oklahoma and popped it and I literally couldn't move 377 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 3: my arm, like it just stopped working. The ligaments are 378 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: pretty important to the motion process of your body, so 379 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 3: what he did is nothing short of a miracle, being 380 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: able to continue to pitch on that. We'll discuss that 381 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 3: at a later time. 382 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: Yes, we will discuss the complexion of the postseason bullpen 383 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: when the Astros win or if the Ashers get to 384 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: the postseason, we will discuss the composition of the post 385 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: Josh Hater bullpen for the immediate future. 386 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 2: Right after another message from our friends of fil Territory. 387 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 5: Kratz tell everyone why they need to look into a 388 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 5: virtual private network aka of VPN. 389 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 2: That's kind of like we're in trousers. 390 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: It keeps everything private and secure whenever you venture out. 391 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 2: That's good. 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I don't think it was one of 411 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: these like they had a closed door team meeting. I 412 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: think it was just they were out. They were out 413 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: in right field doing their normal pregame you know, stretch 414 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: and then playing catching stuff, and Joe Spotta just went 415 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: over and kind of gave him a quick you know talk, 416 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: and sounds like the gist of that talk was basically 417 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: to tell them that Josh Hater is a really really 418 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: good closer. But the reason that Josh Hater is or 419 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: one of the reasons that Josh Hater is a really 420 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: really good closer, is because he had to get the 421 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: ball with a lead, and that fell to a lot 422 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: of the guys that Joe Spotta was addressing, the middle relief, 423 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: the setup guys, like they helped Josh Hater become this 424 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: dominant closer that he's been for this season and for much. 425 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: Of life last season. 426 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: So part of the speech, Oh yeah, Joe's that's good. 427 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: Joe has got to believe me, He's had to do 428 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: it a lot this year. He has got the motivational 429 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: we'll come back from this, like don't worry, Like this 430 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: isn't gonna torpedo our season. 431 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: He's got that down, Pat, he's got that. 432 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 3: But I mean, that's a good turn right there, and 433 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 3: that's impressive. 434 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: It is. 435 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: So afterward he came and spoke to us the gathered media. 436 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: He did not want to name a closer. He's basically 437 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: avoided that. He said, I'm not naming anyone for the 438 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: eighth inning. I'm not naming anyone for the ninth inning. 439 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: They are going to play this as a matchup sort 440 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: of thing down the stretch. Now, it would have been 441 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: nice to see, you know, last night, in the first 442 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: real game of the post hater bullpen kind of era, 443 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: what it would look like. But again, it was fourteen 444 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: to one and we didn't really get a good view 445 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: of that. Even Monday's game, you didn't really get a 446 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: great sense for it because Brian A. Brady was down. 447 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: He had pitched two of the past three games and 448 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: he was not going to be used at all. So 449 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: that obviously altered how Joe was going to use the bullpen. 450 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: Jill won't say it, but I think my inclination is 451 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: if there is a save situation and Brian Abray, who 452 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: is available and rested, Brian Abrad who is going to 453 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: get the ball in a save situation in the ninth inning. 454 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: That makes the most sense. 455 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: Obviously when you look at a lot of the underlying 456 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: numbers and a lot of the counting bats numbers. He 457 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: has been better than Josh Hater this season, e RA, 458 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: strikeouts per nine, everything like, he has been better than 459 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: Josh Hater and some of these metrics. But I do 460 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: think Tyler, you know, if if they've got a situation 461 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: tonight where there's a two run game and Roman Anthony, 462 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: Alex Bregman and Jaron Durant are coming up in the 463 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: eighth inning, I'd want Brian Abray you to face those 464 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: guys and then you know, you piece it together in 465 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: the ninth I do think you will see if the 466 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: most dangerous part of a lineup is coming up before 467 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: the ninth inning, or if they get into a situation 468 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: where the tying runs at second base with one out 469 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: in the eighth inning and they've got three, four and 470 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: five coming up, wouldn't be surprised to see Brian Abrady. 471 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: Brian Abrady is going to get the biggest outs of 472 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: a game. And as you and I both know, in 473 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: modern managing, modern bullpen usage. The biggest outs of a 474 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: game sometimes are not in the bottom of the ninth 475 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: inning or the top of the ninth inning. 476 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: I think Brian A. 477 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: Brady is going to get the biggest outs out of 478 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: the bullpen, but I'd stop short of saying he is 479 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: going to be the true and defined closer. 480 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's also a guy that can get more 481 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 3: than three outs. We've seen him do that a lot 482 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: this year. He's also really good at coming into, you know, 483 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 3: an inning that already has chaos going on and getting 484 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 3: out of it. So that's not a guy that you 485 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 3: want to just lock up in the ninth inning and 486 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: say we're not going to use him until you know 487 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: it's a it's a ninth inning saved situation. So yeah, 488 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 3: I mean the Ashers have the flexibility there. Brianon Bray, 489 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 3: who has been really really good this year. Do you 490 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: know who else I'm looking at fangraphs right now? Do 491 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 3: you know who is tied with Josh had in war 492 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 3: this year? And as far as relievers, I'm looking at 493 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 3: just relievers on fangraphs. Bennett Susa has also been really good. 494 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 3: You know, has had some troubles of late, but has 495 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: been a good picture as well, so the Ashers have 496 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 3: the flexibility to move around. But this just underscores how 497 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 3: desperately they need Hunter Brown and from Er Valdez to 498 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: go seven innings every time out, and they need a 499 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 3: couple of their other starters to step up, you know. 500 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 3: They just they don't have the depth anymore to to 501 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 3: I mean, they didn't have the depth before, but they 502 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 3: especially don't have the depth now to wiggle out of 503 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 3: these It's a miracle they won that game on Monday 504 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 3: with having a bray You unavailable, having Hater unavailable, Like 505 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 3: that's that's pretty impressive that they were able to handle that, 506 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: And I think that's a good sign for them going 507 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 3: forward that they were able to already navigate a tight 508 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 3: game without having either one of those guys available, because 509 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 3: they're going to have to do that again over the 510 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: next couple of weeks. 511 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: Also, like before we get back to the a Braave, 512 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: like that was one of those games on Monday where 513 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: like you walk to the ballpark and like you knew 514 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: that Crochet was pitching for the Red Sox, and you 515 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: knew that, like the odds on paper were stacked against them, 516 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: but you knew there was no way they were losing game. 517 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 3: No like, no way with was going to will them 518 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 3: to a win. 519 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: Right, Like, there was no way like Crochet could have 520 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: punched out fifteen and they would have still found a 521 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: way to win that Like that was just one of 522 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: those with Korea coming back and the vibes and the 523 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: electricity and that all park like, there was no chance 524 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: they were losing that game, And of course it played 525 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: out that way, even even though the odds were very 526 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: much stacked against them on paper. But yeah, I mean, 527 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: I think the way Joe managed that game is gonna 528 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: be the way you see him manage a lot of 529 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: these close games. For however, long Hater is out, you're 530 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of you know, maybe mid inning 531 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,239 Speaker 1: pitching changes. You're gonna see a lot of you know, 532 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,479 Speaker 1: put this guy in for three batters, and then you know, 533 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: the minute that Alex Korra, whoever the opposing manager is, 534 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: goes to his bench for a platoon advantage, Joe's gonna 535 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: pop out of the dugout and go get a writy, 536 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: go get a lefty. Now, the problem is that puts 537 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on you know, I forget how 538 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: many relievers they used on Monday, but that I believe 539 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: it was either. I believe it was four. But that 540 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: puts a lot of pressure on four guys to come 541 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: out and all pitch well and to all beyond. 542 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 3: One of them's not here anymore. 543 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 2: One of them is not here. 544 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: Hector Nerris congratulations on his ten years in major league 545 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: s time. 546 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 2: That's a big accomplishment. 547 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: It's a lifetime it's a lifetime pension from Major League Baseball. 548 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: What we'll have I don't think fans appreciate how big 549 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: of a deal. Well, we'll get Reddick to talk. Reddick 550 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: got to ten years of major league service. We'll talk 551 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: to Josh about it the next time we have them on, 552 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: because I think fans that's kind of they don't view 553 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: it maybe as serious. 554 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: That is one of the biggest. 555 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: Milestones you can reach in the player environment, is getting 556 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: ten years of big league. 557 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: Service, and the players are really aware of it, and 558 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: they're also aware of when teams help players get there, 559 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: like they did with with Hector and as like that. 560 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 3: That builds goodwill in a clubhouse to let a guy 561 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 3: get to ten years of service time. Can I can 562 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: I speak on behalf of all of the people in 563 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: your replies right now, go ahead, are what's up with 564 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 3: Ryan Presley? 565 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: So I'll say this. 566 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: Before Josh Haters, Before Josh Hater got hurt, I checked 567 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: in with people on both sides of this, people that 568 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: are close to Pressly, people that are with the Astros, 569 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: and I got a resounding there is no interest that 570 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: that ship had sailed. They were not There was no 571 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: malice involved, but just like, look, we're not interested, Like 572 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: we've got guys coming back. I think there was a 573 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: thought it could have ended up a lot like the 574 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: Hector Nis situation, where they brought him back as a 575 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: placeholder and then he was going to end up in 576 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: the same boat as Hector NAIs and that's DFA. You know, 577 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: a week or so later when a lot of these 578 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: guys come back and a lot of these guys are are. 579 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: Ready to go. 580 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if the calculus has changed since Josh 581 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: Hater's injury. Again, I still think they were waiting to 582 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: see how much, how severe the Hater injury is, what the. 583 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: Timeline looks for him. 584 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: I do think it should be noted that Ryan Presley 585 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: got dfaed by the Cubs for a reason. Yeah, he's 586 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: been not good, right, he had a look, I will 587 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: give him this, like they when they came back when 588 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: the Cubs came to dyke In Park a couple of 589 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: months ago, Like he had that one just historically awful outing. 590 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: I believe it was in April or May, and then 591 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: that screwed up his counting stats for the whole year basically. 592 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: But he was on a really nice run when he 593 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: came when they came into dyke in Park. I think 594 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: I think he had like a sub two era and 595 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: like twenty appearances since that awful blow up outing. But 596 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: then after the All Star break, he was just he 597 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: was just not good. 598 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: And he with the Astros when he joined in twenty 599 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 3: eighteen averaged about twelve strikeouts per nine over those seasons. 600 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: He was striking out six batters per nine this year. 601 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 3: So just keep that in mind. 602 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so, to be honest with you, I do 603 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: not know right now where it stands. I can just 604 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: tell you that there was very little interest before Josh Hater, 605 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: before Josh Hater got hurt. Now I can say this, 606 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: I think Ryan Presley would be open to coming back. 607 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: I think that is something that that he would he 608 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: would certainly entertain. I don't think it's a situation where 609 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: and we discussed this extensively, his relationship with Dana Brown 610 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: deteriorated after the Hater acquisition, and that was in part 611 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 1: why the trade happened this this winter. Part of it 612 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 1: was also getting some of his money off the books. 613 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: That is not the issue, Like it's not one of 614 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: these things where he's got a grudge and he won't 615 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: come back. That that's not the case. But I just 616 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: I feel like they think they have better options internally, 617 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: you know when you look at it, like aj Blue. 618 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: You just watched aj Blue both from ninety eight in 619 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: Miami like a week ago. Like he is someone that 620 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: I think they believe has a little more upside. Certainly 621 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have the experience that Ryan Presley has, but at 622 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: this point, you know, Hector Narris has a ton of 623 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: playoff experience and a ton of big game experience as well, 624 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: and he just. 625 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: He didn't have it anymore. 626 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: So it would not surprise me if there something does 627 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: happen and Presley does end up back here. But as 628 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: far as just what I can report is there was 629 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: very minimal interest prior to Hater's injury. But again, things 630 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: can change because of this but they've got to focus 631 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: on who they have, and obviously Brian A. Brady was 632 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: going to be a big part of this. But they're 633 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: gonna need all these left handed believers to keep getting 634 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: right handed hitters out. That is one thing that you know, 635 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: Josh Haters included in that number. But you know, you 636 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: look at Bennett Susa, Steven Okert, the lefties that they 637 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: have down there, Brian King have done a good job 638 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: against right handed hitters. They they entered yesterday allowing a 639 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: five thirty eight ops to right handed hitters from Astros 640 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: left handed relievers, which is very good. The Astros have 641 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: had more left handed relievers face right handed hitters than 642 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: any bullpen in baseball. 643 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: So it's one of these things where. 644 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: It does give Joe a lot of flexibility because he 645 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be as mindful of platoon advantage platoon 646 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: splits maybe as some other managers because he has got 647 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: left handed relievers that can get right handed hitters out. Now, 648 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: the big thing is, like they've got to put these 649 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: guys they've got. It's more about it's not even about 650 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: maybe side of the plate and handedness, it's about what 651 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: do the hitters like, what like how did their arsenal 652 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: exploit the hitters. And it's a lot more proprietary information. 653 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: That's a lot more like this dude doesn't like four 654 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: seemers up. This dude doesn't like, you know, sweepers down 655 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: in a way. This guy that's more of like really 656 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: in the weeds. And that's where their advanced scouting department's 657 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: going to come into a big play, a more prominent 658 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: role there gonna have to really kind of do not 659 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: that they don't advance scout these teams, They know everything 660 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: that these other teams do, but it's gonna heighten the 661 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: the it's gonna magnify that a lot as Joe tries 662 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: to piece this together because he made it pretty clear 663 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: yesterday that like he's not assigning to find roles. You know, 664 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: I think if push comes to shove, if you forced 665 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: him to say something, he'd say Brian Abray, who is 666 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 1: his closer right now. But that is certainly not something 667 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised at all if you see 668 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: Brian Obray in the seventh ory or the eighth inning, 669 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: if the game is on the line in those spots, correct. 670 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 3: And I mean that's what you would want anyway, regardless 671 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 3: if it's if it's Brian Abray or not. Like if you're, 672 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 3: you know, playing a video game, like that's when you 673 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 3: want to bring in your best picture is when you 674 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 3: need them the most. You have to get twenty seven 675 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 3: outs no matter what. So get the hardest ones out 676 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 3: with your best players. 677 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean, look they I'm not gonna say 678 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: they did that with Josh Hater. Like the thing about 679 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: having Josh Hates was that it allowed Joe to use 680 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: Brian A bray You in so many different rooms, Like 681 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: he always just had the comfort of all right, I've got 682 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 1: Josh Hater, Like I can deploy Brian abray you whenever 683 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: I want. And then if that's in the seventh inning, 684 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: like all right, I can figure out a way to 685 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: get through the eighth. Or if I need Hater to 686 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: get four outs for me, I just need to get 687 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: two outs in the eighth. Get Hater in there, he 688 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: can get four outs and we're good to go. That insurance, 689 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: that safety blanket is gone. So now it's like he's 690 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: gonna have to be really careful and really mindful of 691 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: when he deploys Brian abrad you because he inherently like 692 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: He's always going to publicly proclaim that he trusts the 693 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: seven other guys in the bullpen, but there is a 694 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: heightened level of trust in Brian A. 695 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 3: Bray. 696 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 2: You that maybe these other guys don't share. 697 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: So he's gonna have to be It's it's gonna be 698 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: a fascinating balancing act for Joe Aspata. Who did you 699 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: see what he said after the game on Monday. This 700 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: was before This was before before he revealed that that 701 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: Josh Hater had the shoulder strain. Someone asked him, like, 702 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: what was that like, like having the cause? He was like, 703 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: that was the other thing too, Like he and Alex 704 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: Cora are pretty good friends. They're both the only two 705 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: Puerto Rican managers left in baseball. 706 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 2: They're they're they're very they're close. 707 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: And he knows that Korra the way Cora runs the 708 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: Red Sox, they platoon a lot. They you know, he'll 709 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: do full line changes in response to relieve, so he 710 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: had he even Joe said it like this. 711 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: He goes, that was fun. He goes, it was fun. 712 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: Going out and like countering moves and like having to 713 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 1: play one step ahead and thinking, all right, what's Cora 714 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: gonna do now? Like, I don't know if Ashers fans 715 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: would agree that it was fun to watch. I think 716 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: that they were more, you know, nervous. But you're gonna 717 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: see a lot more of it, Like you're gonna see 718 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: Joe really get into his bag managing, and you know 719 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: it comes with the territory. But if one of these 720 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 1: guys falters, or if a couple of these guys falters, 721 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna fall back on on. 722 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: The guy that's making the decisions. 723 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: But you're gonna see a lot more just a lot 724 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: more strategicy from uh, from from Joe spot and maybe 725 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: than we've seen in the past. So it'll be it'll 726 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: I think it'll be fascinating to watch, because that's one 727 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: thing I love to do. I don't know if you 728 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: do the same thing, Tyler, But like when when I'm 729 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: watching the games, like I like to like think ahead, 730 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: I like to be like, all right, like Hobvier's coming 731 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: out with eighty something pitches in the in the fifth thing, 732 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: all right, who's he gonna get up right here? Like 733 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 1: if he gets somebody up and then I'm looking at 734 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: the lineup, I'm like, all right, well, Red Sox have 735 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: two lefties coming up so maybe he gets ochred up, 736 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: But does he want Coor to maybe burn you know 737 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: whoever the righty is on his bench? Ref Snyder or Romeganzalez, Like, 738 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: how does he want Coor to burn those guys? 739 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 2: Now? 740 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: To me, that's fun to play along with. I don't 741 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: know if you agree, but I think it'll be fun 742 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: to watch these forty two games trying to watch him 743 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: do that. 744 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Baseball's fun. I don't know if you agree with that. 745 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 3: I enjoy watching it and thinking about it as I 746 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 3: watch it. Uh, And we're gonna get to do a 747 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 3: lot of that because, like you said, there's a lot 748 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 3: of moving pieces. 749 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: Now, yes, a lot of moving pieces. You know what 750 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: else is moving pretty well is our merch. 751 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 2: We've got. 752 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: We've got we've gotten some some positive feedback on what 753 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: we've got going on up at Crush City Territoryshop dot com. 754 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 2: And look what we've got. 755 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: Now, if you're watching on YouTube, you can you can 756 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: get uh look at this QR code. You can scan 757 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: the QR code. We've got Duffel bags here, We've got backpacks, hoodies. 758 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: I got a lightweight hoodie on the way. I think 759 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: it's getting delivered today. I've got a coffee mug coming 760 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: as well. I bankrupted myself buying my own merch. It's 761 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: a great time. That being said, it's pretty cheap. So 762 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: go to Crush City Territory. 763 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 2: Shop dot com. 764 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: If you were watching on YouTube, you could just scan 765 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: the QR code and it would take you right there. 766 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: Like I said, we're going to get to a point 767 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: where we do some giveaways, we do some live shows, 768 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: and we'll have merch for you. But again, we're in 769 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: the infancy stages right now. So the more you got 770 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: buy and the more you guys, you know, wear it 771 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 1: and put it out there, the better it goes for us. 772 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: And the more that we can maybe get some live recordings, 773 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: some live reads and get merched to you guys, maybe 774 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: have some discount codes and then make it a little 775 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: cheaper as we as we get closer to the holiday season. 776 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 2: Tyler, what have you ordered? Have you ordered? 777 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 3: I have it all in the cart, I'm buying it. 778 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 3: I'm getting ready. Can I tell you a Duffel bag story? 779 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 2: Sure? 780 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,720 Speaker 3: Okay, you didn't know that I had a Doffel bag story. 781 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 3: Wait to go. 782 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 2: I'm petrified. 783 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 3: One time I was at the Hobby Airport. This must 784 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 3: have been like twenty and thirteen fourteen something like that, 785 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 3: and I saw this guy. I was finding Oklahoma to 786 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 3: visit my now wife who lives lived in Oklahoma at 787 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 3: the time. I saw this dude with a sick Astros 788 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 3: delfel bag. It was huge, and I like walked up 789 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 3: to him and I was like, dude, where'd you get 790 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 3: that defel back? And it was Marwin Zalez, who had 791 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,439 Speaker 3: just been optioned to Triple A Oklahoma City and we 792 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 3: were on the same flight to Oklahoma, so, uh yeah, 793 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 3: I saw one out in the wild once and it 794 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 3: was enough for me to go like, what is that thing? 795 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 3: That's cool? But it was Marwin, So. 796 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 2: It was Marvin cool when you like, yeah, yeah. 797 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 3: I mean every time he shows up at Astro's games 798 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 3: and it's just sitting in the stands, he looks so cool. 799 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 3: But yes, I saw his cool duffel bag and went 800 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 3: up to talk to him. So that could be you. 801 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 3: You could be the story of someone with your Crush 802 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 3: City duffel bag out there making friends at the airport. 803 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: And then when they ask you where you got him, 804 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: and then when they ask you where you got it, 805 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: you can always say shop at Crush City territory shop 806 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: dot com as everyone should. 807 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 2: Again. 808 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: This was the outpouring of support and the outpouring of 809 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: everything's been great. I can't believe we have merch. I 810 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: keep saying that so weird. I got like I had 811 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: two people at the game Monday tell me like, I 812 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 1: can't believe you guys sell merch. 813 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 2: I was like me either, I can't believe people are 814 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 2: buying it. Yep. 815 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: That being said, continue buying it and continue listening as well. 816 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: Like I did tease that we will have a prospect 817 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: on the show tomorrow, and I'm not going to say 818 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: who it is yet, but we will have another show 819 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: tomorrow with a prospect that I think you'll want to 820 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: hear from somebody that's been pretty interesting, a guy that's 821 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: really ascended the Asher's farm system this year, and a 822 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 1: guy that could play a critical role maybe tonight in Sugarland, 823 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: who knows until then. You can follow me on x 824 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: at chandler Underscore Room. You can follow Tyler at Tyler C. Stafford. 825 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 1: You can rate and review us on Apple. You can 826 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: also rate everything on Spotify and least some comments on 827 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: the Spotify episodes. Please subscribe to the YouTube channel so 828 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 1: you can get notified every time we post a new video. 829 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: Like I said, we'll be back tomorrow with a special 830 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: interview with a fast rising Asher's prospect, and then we'll 831 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: be back on Sunday with Josh Reddick to talk about 832 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,720 Speaker 1: the Orioles series and who knows. We'll talk about the division, 833 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: see where this thing's at, if the Ashers are still 834 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: in a dead heat, will debate the meaning of squad, 835 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: will debate the meaning of shoulder strains. It can be 836 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: a fun time, so please tune in then. Until then, 837 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,879 Speaker 1: we will talk to you later. Good job, Livy, good 838 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: job going to kindergarten for the first time. 839 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out all my fellow teachers. I was a 840 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 3: former teacher. Thank you for all that you do. We'll 841 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 3: see you soon. Bye.