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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the cycle. I am Ryan Warmley,

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Speaker 1: joined as always by Mike may Or. We are talking

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Speaker 1: some fantasy baseball. This is our last episode to come

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Speaker 1: out before Opening Day. We will have sort of a

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Speaker 1: preseason ish episode next week. It's gonna be talking about

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Speaker 1: some of our biggest questions for the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: season that is going to drop on Opening Day next week.

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Speaker 1: But this is our last one that is fully in

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Speaker 1: preseason draft season time of year. This upcoming weekend is,

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Speaker 1: of course the biggest draft weekend of the year for

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. That weekend before Opening Day very jampacked.

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Speaker 1: For me. I'll be watching a lot of college basketball,

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Speaker 1: and the only times I will not be watching college basketball,

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Speaker 1: I will be drafting my fantasy baseball teams this weekend.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a fun time. You and I

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Speaker 1: have a couple of drafts together coming up. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have some fun this weekend. Any kind of before we

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Speaker 1: dive into the show today, Mayor, any kind of thoughts

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Speaker 1: you have going into this last weekend, this last home

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Speaker 1: stretch before draft season is over.

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Speaker 2: Well, the one main thing I have is, you know,

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Speaker 2: you just brought up busy of a weekend is going

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Speaker 2: to be I just, you know, remembered while you were

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Speaker 2: talking that I have to fly to New York to

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Speaker 2: do three drafts in two days. So that'll be fun

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Speaker 2: trying to do all that, you know, simultaneously get a

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Speaker 2: little bit worried about some of like the pitching injuries

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Speaker 2: we're seeing. You know, Jared Jones, you know, we can

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Speaker 2: talk about that a little bit not you know, he's

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Speaker 2: a guy I've talked about a couple times already in

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Speaker 2: the last few episodes that I was excited about. And

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Speaker 2: so I'm also I'm not a huge fan of this

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Speaker 2: like series, Like I kind of you know, I like

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Speaker 2: getting up early and like watching the Dodgers cub series.

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Speaker 2: I hate that it's like wait so much before the

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Speaker 2: rest of you know, the opening day stuff that kind

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Speaker 2: of like annoys me, you know, old man that yells

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Speaker 1: I'm totally out on it too, by the way, Like

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Speaker 1: not sorry to interrupt, but like I'm with you, I

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Speaker 1: I it would be I didn't mind it like they

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Speaker 1: and have some fun with it. I have no interest

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Speaker 1: in it being an annual thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even if it was just like a few days

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Speaker 2: before Opening day where it was just kind of like,

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Speaker 2: you know, a soft opening kind of thing where you know,

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Speaker 2: give him an extra day off to get back I can,

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Speaker 2: you know, you know, get their legs underneathing. But like

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Speaker 2: the fact that it's like ten days before opening day,

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Speaker 2: like you know, from a fantasy perspective, it throws up

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Speaker 2: everything for us. So that's obnoxious. So I do I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't want it at all. I want Opening Day

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Speaker 1: the night before Opening Day. If you want to do

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Speaker 1: like some kind of Sunday night Baseball type thing, the

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Speaker 2: Besides that, I want the Hall of Fame game or no,

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Speaker 2: that's the preseason, but this is football. Doest Thursday opener.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly like the Thursday. Like first, I was okay

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Speaker 1: with that. I want Opening Day to be Opening Day.

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Speaker 1: I like that is really meaningful to me. I don't

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Speaker 1: like the soft launch, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any takeaways from that series? By the way,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I certainly was not, especially on the Mountain time.

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Speaker 1: I was not getting up early to watch those games live.

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Speaker 1: I checked the box scores. But any kind of takeaways

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Speaker 1: watch it.

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Speaker 2: A few minor ones. Don't love the Friday Freeman being

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't love that Going into the season.

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Speaker 2: Very excited about Tommy Edmond. He's someone I have been

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Speaker 2: Missed the beginning of last year. Now on a really

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Speaker 1: A lot of emotions, right, like first Star happening overseas,

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Speaker 1: it felt like a fitting two teams to be over there,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not worried about Justin Steele, you know, like

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Speaker 1: A two game series. How much are you changing your

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Speaker 1: injury related stuff? Yeah, before we dive into today's episod,

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Speaker 1: where we're gonna be predicting some yearbook superlatives for the season,

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Speaker 1: things like most likely to succeed, stuff like that. I

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Speaker 1: want to highlight some of the bold predictions that the

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Speaker 1: commenters left on last week's episode. Uh, they were bolder

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Speaker 1: than our predictions. I will say some of these really

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Speaker 1: don't know that I think that's gonna happen. What do

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Speaker 2: I just you know i'd get to see it from him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, last year he hit two eighty four. For whatever

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Speaker 1: was your reaction to reading that volt prediction also unlikely.

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Speaker 1: Again you know my thoughts on spring training.

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Speaker 2: so like cy Young is probably too ambitious, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm totally on board with myz. Like if the purpose

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Speaker 1: can make yourself very, very rich. And then the other

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Speaker 1: one Nick Pivetta to lead the n Allen strikeouts. How

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Speaker 2: I mean, he does strike out a lot of badness.

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Speaker 2: He's never top two into strikeouts in a season before.

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Speaker 2: He's always been a pitcher who's like flashed the stuff.

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Speaker 1: I would say it feels like he needs to get

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Speaker 1: on everything we talked about, and we'll be sure to

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Speaker 1: highlight them on the show Any Good Ones. Let's dive

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Speaker 1: into our Yearbook superlatives, Mayor. We came up with four

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Speaker 1: For the final category, we're gonna start off with the

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Speaker 1: most likely to succeed. It's kind of the cliche yearbook

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Speaker 1: I know that we actually did kind of approach it

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Speaker 1: kind of explain how you approached it?

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Speaker 2: Sure, so, I saw your name first, and I know

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Speaker 2: I definitely took a different approach. I approached it more

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Speaker 2: looking at either the kid in high school who was

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Speaker 2: I went with Brian Reynolds, who is a guy that

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Speaker 2: I think you can draft on your team, who is

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Speaker 2: just you just pretty much know what you're going to

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Speaker 2: I was going to say twenty five, but in three

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Speaker 2: of the last four years he hit exactly twenty four.

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Speaker 2: So you're going to get twenty four home runs from him.

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Speaker 2: He's going to bat between two sixty two seventy five.

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Speaker 2: He's probably going to steal ten bases, drive in eighty runs,

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Speaker 2: Consensus projections have him for about one hundred and sixty innings.

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Speaker 1: If I guarantee you one hundred and fifty innings from

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Speaker 1: The next category we have here Mayor is Biggest Flirt.

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Speaker 1: This is a fun one from real high school and

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Speaker 1: he had stayed healthy throughout the season. Obviously, doesn't end

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Speaker 1: something games? I think it was seventy three, Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: over four hundred. Again, that was his best since twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: While still on this, you know, twenty four ish home

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Speaker 2: Well, a real quick question for you. Who do you

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Speaker 1: I almost made the Trout comparison here. Of the two,

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Speaker 1: you know, at his peak. But he did play one

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty four games in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Mike Trout would do unspeakable things. Hit those numbers again,

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Speaker 1: I I think it has to be Yelich, right, even

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Kelly always gets on me when we're doing

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Speaker 2: because I am always in on Yelich and I'm always

434
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,440
Speaker 2: you know, hoping for the bounce back. I'm always taking

435
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,200
Speaker 2: the you know, the value because he's always like depressed

436
00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 2: in drafts because of the injury stuff. I was in

437
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 2: on him a ton last year, and I was very

438
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,400
Speaker 2: excited with those returns until it all fell apart. I'm

439
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,879
Speaker 2: likewise doing it again this year. I've taken him at a

440
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 2: bunch of mock drafts. I don't know that I have

441
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 2: any real life shares. I do have one real life share,

442
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,199
Speaker 2: but I think that's in a keeper league where I

443
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 2: kept him. But yeah, I mean, I don't think we're

444
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 2: going to see the power like we saw before, even

445
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 2: though we saw like flashes of it last year. I think,

446
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 2: you know, twenty home runs is his ceiling at this

447
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,640
Speaker 2: point in his career. But also, like, if you can

448
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 2: get you know, an average around two eighty and twenty

449
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 2: twenty outside of the top one hundred picks, you gambling

450
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 2: you're gambling on the health, but you know, if you

451
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 2: can guarantee he's going to stay healthy, which you can't.

452
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 2: I mean, that's still really good production for that late

453
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 2: in a draft outside top one hundred.

454
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 1: For me, like at this stage in his career, I

455
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 1: worry about and I actually almost included Ronald Acunya in

456
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,120
Speaker 1: a different category we have coming up, because I'm worried

457
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 1: about coming off the injury what that's going to mean

458
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 1: for a stolen basis At this point in Yeli's career,

459
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 1: he's it. If the stolen bases goes down because of

460
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 1: the injury stuff, He's not, I don't think going to

461
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 1: be making up for it with extra power. The batting

462
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: average was still be good. But if instead of being

463
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 1: on this, you know, thirty five forty stolen base pace,

464
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 1: then he just does go like twenty twenty and maybe

465
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: even less than that. If they just are worried about

466
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 1: keeping him healthy, that concerns me from the downside. And

467
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 1: I think I think the pace he was on last year,

468
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 1: especially with the rate stats being as strong as they were,

469
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 1: I mean, he was over nine hundred ohps again for

470
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 1: the first time since twenty nineteen. With that, you know,

471
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 1: twenty plus home run like close to fifty stolen base pace.

472
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: I worry that's going to be a flirtation that entices

473
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people because the cost isn't prohibitive. So

474
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people will see that and say, oh,

475
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 1: this is somebody who can be like a league winner,

476
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: because we kind of saw it last year. Now he's

477
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: back healthy, going outside the top one hundred, I find

478
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: myself a bit concerned.

479
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 2: The one thing also to be concerned about him more

480
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 2: so than some of these other players we've talked about

481
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: with injury concerns. His injury concerns are the same injury.

482
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 2: It's a chronic back issue that keeps popping up. It's

483
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,959
Speaker 2: not like these random like you know, he broke his

484
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 2: handsliding in the second base or towards ACL This is

485
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 2: a chronic back issue that he just had surgery on Mayor.

486
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm not the first person to say this, but it's

487
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: one of the most true idioms out there. Nobody ever

488
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 1: used to have back problems. Right once you get a

489
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 1: you have back problems, and playing as an elite professional athlete.

490
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 1: That's concerning.

491
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: I thought you're about to refer to yourself as as

492
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 2: an elite professional athlete. Like as an elite professional athlete,

493
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 2: I can tell you all about back issue.

494
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: As a mediocre weekend warrior athlete, let me tell you

495
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: about injury concerns. All right, Who is your biggest flirt?

496
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: So mine is a slightly a different take, but still

497
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 2: kind of the same thing. I went with Jackson Holliday,

498
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 2: and I'll explain my reasoning. And it's not that I

499
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 2: don't think he's a great young player, and he's a

500
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 2: great young prospect. I think he is. I just think

501
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 2: we you know, we saw the flashes of the minor leagues.

502
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 2: We saw he came up last year and he struggled mightily,

503
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: and we've seen the flashes. I think what happens this year?

504
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 2: So you you looked at twenty twenty four as kind

505
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: of the kind of the biggest flair. I'm looking to

506
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five as kind of the biggest flare because

507
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: I think, well, he's not being drafted. Where is he

508
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: being drafted, Jackson Holiday outside of the top one eighty

509
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 2: one eight four, So I think some people are taking

510
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: late round flowers on him, hoping that this is this

511
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 2: is the year for the breakout. And I think you're

512
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 2: as an Orioles fan, I think you're hoping for the

513
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 2: breakout too. I think this year he's the biggest flair

514
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: because I think we see flashes, but I think we

515
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 2: see up and down production. I think he struggles a

516
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: little bit here and there while ultimately flashing the potential

517
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: that we know he has. But this year I think

518
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: is a year too early to bank, you know, to

519
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 2: receive you know, the proper returns on that production. And

520
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 2: I think you know, you're you're you're not going to

521
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: get enough power and you're probably not going to get

522
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: enough speed, and the average isn't going to be there.

523
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: So like as a fantasy asset, this year, I think

524
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: he's going to be a tease, even though we are

525
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: going to see him flash the potential that we know

526
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 2: he has.

527
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: It's interesting when I first came up with this category,

528
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: my thought process was going to be a guy who

529
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: was really tooled up, you know, like Luis Robert, just

530
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: kind of one of these like big like power speed combos.

531
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: But somebody who likes it's the Byron Buckston Award.

532
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the Byron Buckston Memorial Award. He has kind

533
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: of the thought neither of us went in that direction

534
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: for two different reasons, because that's not really Holiday's game.

535
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: He's he's tooled up in the sense that his hit

536
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: tool is supposed to be so excellent, and the batting

537
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: guy he actually did bulk up too, So maybe we

538
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: see some of the more physical tools as well come

539
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: through this year. I find Holiday really fascinating. We've talked

540
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: about him in a couple of episodes. I know Joe

541
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: has talked about him a lot with Welsh on this feed.

542
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: I find myself, on the one hand, saying the last

543
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: two number one prospects that the Orioles had, Adle Rochman

544
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 1: and Gunner Anderson both struggled two different degrees than Holiday,

545
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: but they both really did struggle when they first came

546
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: up to the big leagues, and then after a short

547
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: adjustment period. For Gunner it did mean waiting until the

548
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: start of the next season. For Adlie it was later

549
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 1: in that first season because he came up earlier. But

550
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: for both of them, after a short adjustment period, they

551
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 1: then became excellent players. So on the one hand, you

552
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: almost just want to give the benefit of the doubt

553
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: to the Orioles player development machine when it comes to

554
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 1: these elite hitting prospects because we've seen this play out before,

555
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: and well, of course the next guy in that line

556
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: of number one overall prospects in the sport is going

557
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: to struggle a bit with the adjustment and then he's

558
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: going to put it all together and be amazing. At

559
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: the same time, the struggle was more severe than it

560
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: was for Gunner or Adlie, and he was better in

561
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: his second stint in the majors, but it wasn't like

562
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 1: he was this fantasy gold mine in the second stint right,

563
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: It was just better than the absolute disaster it was

564
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: in April of last year. So I find him very

565
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: difficult to rank. I find him difficult to project this year.

566
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to end up playing enough

567
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: shortstop to get that eligibility. I know some people have

568
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: talked about that with kind of the injury to Gunner.

569
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: I would anticipate Gunners back early enough that it doesn't matter,

570
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: and if he's not that they go with somebody like

571
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: Jorge Matteo and just let holiday has enough going on

572
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: to also be playing shortstop, like just let him hopefully

573
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: dominate at second. So I think he's a really interesting

574
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: choice by you and I definitely don't disagree with it.

575
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: I just really struggle to put my finger on what

576
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: my evaluation and expectation is for holiday this year.

577
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I struggle with that too. I'm probably not gonna

578
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 2: have a ton of shares just because I'm not going

579
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: to take a ton of late round flyers on him.

580
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: I worry. I know you're not worried about him getting

581
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 2: sent down, but I worry about him struggling again and

582
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 2: maybe getting sent down because he's still really young. And

583
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 2: it's the kind of thing where like, it's not like

584
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: if a player gets hurt and then you can just

585
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 2: put him on your eyel and you know, hopefully he

586
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: comes back in a few weeks. You're just stuck with

587
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 2: that roster spot. You're like, do I have to drop

588
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 2: him or do I just eat that roster spot for

589
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: a few weeks. And in some leagues it's easier to

590
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: do than others. Some leagus just don't have the deep

591
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: bench to be able to do that. And then I

592
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: also wonder, early in his career, as he's developing and

593
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: as we're seeing this potential play out, is he going

594
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: to be one of those players who's a better real

595
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: life baseball player than a fantasy baseball player. Like if

596
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: he plays a full season and hits fourteen home runs

597
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 2: and bats too forty two fifty and steals fourteen bases,

598
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: how valuable is that in fantasy because that's pretty much

599
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 2: below a replacement level player, or maybe right about a

600
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 2: replacement level player if you count all the accounting stats together.

601
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: If he puts it all together right, which you know

602
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: who knows if he does, then I'm actually really confident

603
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: he'll be fantasy viable. I'm not saying he's gonna be

604
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: a fantasy superstar, but I think the batting average and

605
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: I think the speed. I mean, his sprint speed was

606
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: ninety fifth percent sigle last year, but he could steal

607
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: way more bases than he was allowed the opportunity to

608
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: do this year. So in a world where it works

609
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: out for him, let's say he's batting like two eighty

610
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: five and on base he has a good eye on

611
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: base percentage of like three sixty, I think a thirty

612
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: stolen based season is not out of the out of

613
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: the car. Its honestly.

614
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: Now he has now many stolen bases he has to.

615
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: Spring probably not a lot five. Oh y, He's fine. Okay,

616
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to ask because they was like, oh,

617
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: it's really small. Number five. Again, that's more than he

618
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: had in his in Major League baseball last year. I

619
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: think he could steal thirty bases in a season and

620
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: give you a batting average close to three hundred and

621
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: some degree of pop. Like again, he needs to take

622
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: a real step to get here. I'm not projecting this

623
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: kind of season, but whether it's this year or a

624
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: few years from now, when he puts it together, I

625
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: am very confident if he puts it together that it

626
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: it is a fantasy asset.

627
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: It is, and I want to be clear, I think

628
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: so too. I'm saying just this year, I think he's.

629
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: Oh, who just as oh, I'm sorry, okay, I thought

630
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: you were saying kind of down the line.

631
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: I think down the line. I just think. I just

632
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: think for just this year only. I think this might

633
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: be a year or too early. I think down the line.

634
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: I grew with you, Okay, I think then I then

635
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: I think that's totally fair. Like I would say it's

636
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: a non zero chance he's like really viable in fantasy,

637
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: but I think it's much more likely that he takes

638
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: a leap. But that league just gets just gets him

639
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: to Okay, he's the everyday second basement for a good team.

640
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't get him to Oh now, he's like a

641
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: top eight at the position in fantasy and a guy

642
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: that's gonna win you your lead because you got him. Silly,

643
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: I think that's actually really valid. All right, Let's go

644
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: to our next category here, class clown, another classic one

645
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: and the way and you came up with this kind

646
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: of angle to it because you got to include class clown.

647
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: But there's not like an obvious like it's not really

648
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: fantasy isn't personality based so much so the way we're

649
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: approaching this superlative is the player that if you take him,

650
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: could get you clowned four t him when thinking about

651
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: it a year from now. So the guy that at

652
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,959
Speaker 1: next year's draft people are going to clown on you

653
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: for where you took him. I'll let you go first

654
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: this time.

655
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: So I took it. I want to be careful with

656
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: my approach to this one because I don't want people

657
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: to think I'm down on this players. I think he's

658
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: very very good. Now for the last category, the low

659
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: hanging fruit for you know, the biggest flare probably been

660
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: Royce Lewis for someone who just like put it all together,

661
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: but just you know, we're just not seeing it. But

662
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: that's because he can't stay on the field. So for

663
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: this one, the class clown the player most likely to

664
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: get you clowned. I think there's some low hanging fruit here.

665
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: I think you took one of the ones that's an

666
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: obvious case for how high he's going. I think another

667
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: option could be Chris Sale for how high he's going.

668
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: I went in a different angle of a player that

669
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: I think is really good but that you could get

670
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: clowned for taking him because of how high he's going

671
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: in drafts right now. And that's William contraras his ADP

672
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: is consensus thirty three. I'm seeing that he's creeping into

673
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: the second round in some drafts. And I don't care

674
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: how good a catcher is in most years unless you're

675
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: like a really special catcher, like maybe those Buster Posey

676
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: years when he was putting out elite production, or if

677
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: you want to go back to like their late nineties

678
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: two thousands when there were catchers hitting thirty plus home

679
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: runs and batting three fifteen old.

680
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: I remember some years when Joe Mauer was going in

681
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: the first round.

682
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: Joe Maher. Yeah, but like he's like a batting title candidate.

683
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

684
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: So William Contreras is really valuable for a bunch of reasons. One,

685
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: catcher is not that deep. Two, he plays every day,

686
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: whether it's catching or dah. He played one hundred and

687
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: fifty five games last year. There aren't many catchers that

688
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: do that. And when he does play, he's really good.

689
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: Bet at two eighty one with twenty three home runs

690
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: and any stole nine bases. As a catcher, I just

691
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: have a hard time getting there on taking a catcher

692
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: in you know, the late second, early third round where

693
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: he's going, because even if you look at that production,

694
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: that's really great production for a catcher, for a regular player,

695
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: it's pretty average production. I mean, granted, throwing the runs

696
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: in RBIs and the values there, like he's a really

697
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: you know, elite producer across the board. It's just hard

698
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: for me to project a catcher because he just he

699
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: played every day last year. The year before he played

700
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty one games, and it's just not

701
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: that easy to play every day as a catcher and

702
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: hold up and continue to produce like this, And for me,

703
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: It's another situation where I've talked about a bunch of

704
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: this year where you're drafting a player at his ceiling, which

705
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: is what we're doing with William Contreraz right now. Is

706
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: what I don't like to do because if he doesn't

707
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: reach his ceiling, then you're not getting returned on that value.

708
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: I want to draft upside. And if you're drafting like

709
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: you're drafting him at a ceiling hoping that you're going

710
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: to get to eighty batting average twenty three plus home runs,

711
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 2: like you know, almost two hundred runs in RBIs what

712
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: if he plays ten to fifteen fewer games. What if

713
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: instead of twenty three home runs, he hits like eighteen

714
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: home runs, and what if instead of to eighty, that's

715
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: two seventy. Now he's not a second round pick. And

716
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: there's also a world where you know, catchers get banged up,

717
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: and it's hard to you know, just how some people

718
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: are kind of risk averse the drafting pictures early because

719
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: of so many pitcher injuries. Catchers get hurt a lot too,

720
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: and they get really even if like they just get

721
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: banged up and they miss a week, catchers get hurt

722
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: all the time. It's a really rough perdition position to

723
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: play for several months and stay both healthy and productive.

724
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: And for me, it's just really hard to get there

725
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: taking him that early. So I think there's a chance

726
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: that you know, you're you get to your draft next

727
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: year and you know you can't you you know, you

728
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: don't finish high in your draft, and they're looking at

729
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: who got drafted where last year and they're like, boy,

730
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: I can't believe you took a catcher in the second

731
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: round last year.

732
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: I think this is a terrible pick. And I'll tell

733
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: you why. I'll tell you why because I think, barring

734
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: an injury, it's really unlikely anybody other than maybe Adley

735
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: Rutschman finishes better than William Contreras this year. The durability

736
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: and again, you know, set inside the possibility for an injury,

737
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: but the durability that he has the fact that he's

738
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: just a good hitter, like I just don't like Adley

739
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: has the skill set to maybe put it all together.

740
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: And he did get hurt part with you last year.

741
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: So if he's healthy, I could seadly finishing one. I

742
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: can't see any other catcher finishing ahead of William Coatras

743
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: this year, So even if it is not the best

744
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: kind of game theory. It's not the best roster building

745
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: strategy to take a catcher in the early third or

746
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: maybe even as high as a second the I don't

747
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: even want to say diehard, but like the people like us,

748
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: will would say, oh, that was a mistake. If you're

749
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: in your league and you take William Coatreras in the

750
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: third round, and we say, that's like a little rich

751
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: for my blood. I don't think most leagues are going

752
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: to clown you for it, because you're still gonna get

753
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: a top two catcher, I would imagine is the most

754
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: likely outcome, And I don't think people are gonna clown

755
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: you for that. I think they might say that's not

756
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: that wouldn't be my strategy. But unless he is really bad,

757
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think you're getting clowned, right like

758
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of my thought process is it might

759
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: be a bad disci but I don't think people are

760
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: making fun of you for taking the best catcher in

761
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: Fantasy Baseball, the consensus number one guy. If you look

762
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: at it at our ECR, it shows best ranking and

763
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: worst ranking. His worst ranking is number one. He's as

764
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: consensus as consensus gets as Catcher one, and he deserves it.

765
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't think that's getting you clowned in my opinion.

766
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: I think you can get clowned if I'm in your

767
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: league and I take Wilson Contrera's outside the top one

768
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: hundred and he out produces William Contreras this.

769
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: Year, Wilson Contreras, I have to tell you this when

770
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: in the first round of a draft I did the

771
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: other week. It's a keeper draft, so oh, but only

772
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: fifty players were kept, and there were a lot of

773
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: good players on the board, and my buddy and I

774
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: we were like doing a virtual chat during the draft.

775
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: We looked at it. We're like, does he think he

776
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: just took William Contreras? Like we could not figure out

777
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 1: what had led to this, and William contrace was not available.

778
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: He was kept, so I was like, it blew my mind.

779
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: Were a lot of good players on the board, and

780
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: he went with Wilson Contreras.

781
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: It happened in a salary cap draft league that I

782
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 2: did as well, where we are fairly confident the person

783
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: thought it was William Contreras.

784
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: It feels like the only explanation, all right, so that's

785
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: your pick. I think it's a bad one. My pick,

786
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: I actually think is this is the single most obvious

787
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: pick of any superlative we're talking about, at least in

788
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: my opinion, In the way I'm approaching drafts, I have

789
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: Jacob deGrom. I. Actually it's funny I didn't think of

790
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: him immediately. My first thought was I was thinking of

791
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: some other players. I was thinking maybe like a Kunya,

792
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: depending on how high you took him, because I do

793
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: think he's going to be a step down this year

794
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: if he's running less, and we kind of saw it

795
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: took a little bit of a step back in that

796
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: first year back anyway. Also, we don't know one hundred

797
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: percent when he's going to be back on the field anyway.

798
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: But like, I don't think you get clown for taking

799
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: Acuna because it's you know, it's purely an upside play

800
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: if you do that right. I don't think you get

801
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: clowned if you take Chris Sale because it's like, listen,

802
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: dude was insanely good last year. You know it's a

803
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: risk going in. You know it's a risk going going

804
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: in with Jacob de gram and yet he is still

805
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: sixtieth in ECR Mayor. I have been talking about this

806
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: all preseason. I do not understand this. I cannot wrap

807
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 1: my head around why de Gram is so highly ranked.

808
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: So that's that's just in the rankings in EIGHTYPS, even

809
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: a few spots higher at fifty fifty six overall forty

810
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: six is what we're showing on the site. I don't

811
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: get that he has pitched in the last three years

812
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: ten and two thirds innings thirty and a third innings

813
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: sixty four and a third innings. The year before that

814
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: was ninety two innings. Year before that was twenty twenty

815
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: sixty eight innings. I know there was a reason you

816
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: only pitched sixty eight innings, but still that's a year

817
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: of not building up the arm. He has not pitched

818
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 1: even one hundred innings in a season since twenty nineteen,

819
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: and he's only top seventy innings in a season once

820
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: since then. I do not get. I do not understand.

821
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, he's what thirty six years old.

822
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: You don't get healthier as you get older. I know

823
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: we're I know Jacob de Gram is a really good pitcher.

824
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: I love watching a pitch when he's healthy, and I

825
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: know those three games he pitched last year he had

826
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: fourteen strikeouts in one walk and ERA under one seventy.

827
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: Like I know, he is a very very good pitcher.

828
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: This is the number one red flag in this range

829
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 1: of draft because again you're not getting any injury discount

830
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: on him. This is the biggest red flag to me

831
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 1: on the entire board, in the top one hundred picks,

832
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: maybe in the top one hundred and fifty. I can't

833
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: think of a pitch of any player at any position

834
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: going at a range that I think is this crazy

835
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: high to this degree because of injury reasons. I do

836
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: not get it. I will not understand it. He will

837
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: be on zero of my teams if the cost stays

838
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: where it is, which we're only a week away from

839
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: opening days, so it's clearly has staying to be this high.

840
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: Talk me, you tell me why I'm crazy, because I

841
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: think this is absurd.

842
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: I think it's a terrible pick. No, I think it's fine.

843
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: I actually think when I was talking he was one

844
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: of the players I was talking about where it was a

845
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: low hanging fruit. I actually almost said his name by

846
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: accident when I was talking about names you could pick,

847
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 2: until I glanced at the sheet and remembered that Jacob

848
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: de Ground was who you picked, and so I was

849
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 2: really close to ruining your pick for you and really

850
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,959
Speaker 2: spoiling it for everyone listening, and you know, giving away

851
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: your pick. But no, I think he's one of the

852
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 2: obvious picks just because of the steam has just gotten insane.

853
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: I get it. He can be really, really good. He

854
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: just hasn't pitched. And there's already talk you know, we

855
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: talked about it a bunch recently. There's already talked about

856
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 2: limiting his workload. He's only throwing two innings in the spring,

857
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: and we know they're going to be careful with him.

858
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 2: And it's just you're just paying too higher price. I

859
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: talk about drafting guy's ceiling. You're not drafting him at

860
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: his ceiling, but you're drafting him way more than I'm

861
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: willing to for the risk involved.

862
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to say, you are drafting meta ceiling.

863
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: His ceiling is. I don't think a full healthy season.

864
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: I just don't think he can do it, and I

865
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: hope I'm wrong. Truthfully, I would love to see Jacob

866
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: de Gram have a healthy year. It would be so

867
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: much fun. I think his health ceiling is such that

868
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: I don't think he can give you value on this

869
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: pick where he's going, I don't think it's.

870
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: Probab how many innings does he give you this year?

871
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: I would be I don't know how you can go

872
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: in confidently projecting one hundred innings. I don't know how

873
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: you can do you what do you think the answer is?

874
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. I was looking at consensus protections to

875
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: cheat a little bit, and they it's funny you say

876
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: you can't confidently project project not one hundred things, but

877
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 2: the innings in general, because a lot of times you

878
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: look at these projections and they're pretty similar, like a

879
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: little bit tweak. Here's week there, like you know, some

880
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: are more aggresive than they're all over the place for

881
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: Jacob to crown. The highest is Steamer, which is, you know,

882
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: they're pretty aggressive with some of their things, more than

883
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: some of the other ones that I talked about. I

884
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 2: was being conservative. They have one hundred fifty two innings.

885
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 2: I don't think you a prayer at seeing one hundred

886
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: and fifty two innings. Even if he doesn't get it.

887
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: Hurt, they're not gonna let him pitch one hundred and

888
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: fifty two innings.

889
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, And the other ones are all between one

890
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 2: hundred and ten and one hundred and thirty two.

891
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: I again, I want to be really clear. I would

892
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: love to be wrong, Okay, I would be thrilled to

893
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: be incorrect about this because Jacob de Gram is like

894
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: arguably the most fun pitcher to watch when he's on

895
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: of the last you know, fifteen years. He is awesome

896
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: at pitching, and I would guess still pretty good, right.

897
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: I mean again, we haven't seen it that much in actual,

898
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: real major league games the last couple of years. I mean,

899
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: he's only got forty innings last two years combined, but

900
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: in those forty innings he had fifty nine strikeouts and

901
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: five walks. He had an ra I'm not gonna do

902
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: the math because I don't have in front of me,

903
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: but one year was one sixty nine, the other year

904
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: was two sixty seven, so a very good era. Like

905
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: I have no doubt he's still good because that arm

906
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: is incredible. I could not have more doubt about him

907
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: staying healthy. And if it was baked into the cost

908
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: better I would be super in on. You get into

909
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: the hundreds, you know where you're picking, Yeah, take a shot.

910
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: I mean, what's the worst you're going to miss out

911
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: on somebody who's probably not going to be a league

912
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: winner for you anyway, take a chance. I totally get it.

913
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: If you take Jacob de Gram in round five, I

914
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: think you will get clowned if he gets hurt in

915
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: early May and misses four months. Like I think this

916
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: is a guy who will get you cloud, who should

917
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: get you clown And I think you're insane if you're

918
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: taking him this high. It's it's probably the most emphatic

919
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: passionate I feel about any player ranking this this whole

920
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: draft season is that I think Jacob de Gram is

921
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: too high because I cause again I feel like I'm

922
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: missing something, is the thing I'm not. I'm not angry

923
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: at people who are taking him up. Please take him

924
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: off the board. He wasn't a player I was going

925
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: to pick there. But I just I feel confused, like

926
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm missing something. I don't get where

927
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: this confidence that he's healthy is or that he can

928
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: be even remotely healthy, because again, it's six years since

929
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: we saw a season like the one you're projecting in

930
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: terms of the innings, and I think that's a really

931
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: optimistic projection. I think it's much more likely he throws

932
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: sixty innings this year than he throws one hundred and twenty.

933
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: I will say that's that's my thought on it.

934
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably right.

935
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: So I hate to say it because again I love

936
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,360
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947
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948
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 2: We've already started. We're already in there.

949
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,360
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951
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,400
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952
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953
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: I thought it might be all right. Last Shared award here,

954
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: we wanted to kind of give a nod to the

955
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: Dundees from the Office, the show from the Office, so

956
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna go with the Hottest in the Office Award. Unfortunately,

957
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: Ryan Howard is no longer a professional baseball player, so

958
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: we can't make that fun connection. The way we're treating

959
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: this Hottest in the Office Award, it's kind of the

960
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: player who's most hyped heading in this. Seeing Guy was

961
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: a lot of helium, and when I first sat down

962
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,959
Speaker 1: to think about my choice for this, I was thinking

963
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 1: from the angle of a guy who's ADP has risen

964
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: a lot. The guy I'm going to pick hasn't really

965
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: risen a lot. There's just a lot of hype from

966
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: where his ADP started off relative to what we've seen

967
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: from him already. I went with James Wood, and I

968
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: want to be really clear about something because I've picked

969
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: him on some other lists we've done in previous shows.

970
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: We're not saying that the Hottest in the Office ord

971
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: is somebody that is overhyped incorrectly. We're just saying this

972
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: is somebody who has a lot of hype surrounding them.

973
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: Kind of relative to what we've seen before. I don't

974
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: think this is incorrect. I agree with it. I love

975
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: James wood Is. He is going higher than I wish

976
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: he was, but he's not going so high that I'm

977
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: not on board with it. All right, He's still in

978
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: the fifties. He hasn't kind of risen, you know, into

979
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: round four and earlier, and in the rankings seas he's

980
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: fifty one. That's that's gone up a few spots. But

981
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: in the fifth round. I think the upside is immense

982
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: with him. I think the Nationals are a team that

983
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: will allow you to run, so I would not be surprised.

984
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: I mean, in half a season he had fourteen stolen bases.

985
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: That projects out to thirty. I believe it's on base

986
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: at a better rate in year two, and they did

987
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: let him kind of unleash a little bit. I think

988
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: he could get to forty stolen bases. I wouldn't predict that.

989
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: I think it's on the table. I think a twenty

990
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: five forty season there's a non zero chance that happen.

991
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: I think he's that good. I love the player. I

992
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: think the Nats are going to give him every opportunity

993
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: to be a superstar, and I think we're going to

994
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: see improvement in the rate stats too. In year two.

995
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: He hit the ball on the ground a little too

996
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: much when he first came up last year. I'm counting

997
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: on him kind of improving that. I mean, even with

998
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 1: that said, he was still on like a twenty homer pace.

999
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: I think he's awesome. I think the hype is deserved.

1000
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: But I'm putting him for this award because he's We've

1001
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: only seen half a season from him. He's still really young.

1002
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: He didn't exactly put it all together last year, and

1003
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: he's going almost inside the top fifty, so there's definitely

1004
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: a lot of hype there. I think I'm on board.

1005
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: I think it's deserved.

1006
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on board with James Wood. One of the

1007
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: low hanging fruit picks for this topic would have been Jacksonterio.

1008
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: But we've talked about Jackson Trio a ton recently, so

1009
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: we don't have to dive back into Jackson Tarrio. And

1010
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: you know, the people have heard our takes on Jackson Trio,

1011
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 2: but they've also heard me talk about players like I'd

1012
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: rather take later in drafts than Jackson Trio. And even

1013
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: though James Wood is not going as late as I

1014
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: would like. Like you said, he is going four rounds

1015
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: three rounds later than Jackson Truo and is another player

1016
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 2: who could potentially outproduce him, not saying that he will,

1017
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: but saying that it's within his range of outcomes based

1018
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: on his skill set. And he's going outside the top fifty,

1019
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: and like you said, I'd prefer that to be like

1020
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: seventy seventy five and not fifty. But I also really

1021
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: like the player, and he is someone like I talked

1022
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: about earlier, where you're you're not taking him at his ceiling,

1023
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 2: You're protecting upside. And I do think he has upside

1024
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: much more, much higher than where where he's going right now.

1025
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: And I look at some of the names that are

1026
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: around him in ADP at least a few spots ahead

1027
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: of him. Michael Harris, Marcella Zuna is one spot ahead

1028
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: of him. CJ. Abrams one spot behind him, Tasker Hernandez

1029
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: Yamamoto de gram is four spots behind him in ADP,

1030
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 1: Framber Michael like, I would just rather take that swing

1031
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: on James Wood than any of those guys truthfully nailed it.

1032
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: YEA nothing else to add.

1033
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: Great, I knocked it out of the park, like hopefully

1034
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: James Wood does a lot of this year.

1035
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: Who is he Also James said, I do more to

1036
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: add four hour months in the spring. I know you

1037
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: love spring training stats.

1038
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: Now I do when they confirm my priors. Who's your

1039
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: hottest in the office?

1040
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: My hottest in the office is another thing we've talked

1041
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: about a little bit recently, Rokie Sasaki And like I said,

1042
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: like you said, actually not saying that he will or

1043
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: will not live up to the hype, but just someone

1044
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: that is the most hyped and a lot of is

1045
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: because he's the shining new toy. We don't know what

1046
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: we're going to get. We've seen him throw one hundred

1047
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: you know, his first three pitches this morning, we're all

1048
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: one hundred miles an hour, and that's pretty fun. And

1049
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 2: we've seen the tools we know prior to you know,

1050
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 2: just spring training, and this morning when he debuted, we

1051
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 2: hadn't seen a lot of Rokie Sasaki. So it was

1052
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: a lot of just projecting and excitement about like the

1053
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 2: tools and what we've learned and heard about him. And

1054
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: so he's someone that a lot of people are struggling

1055
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: to figure out where to draft where to rank, and

1056
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 2: and so he's someone who's got a lot of hype

1057
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: and we're not really sure if it's justified or not

1058
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: based on uh we just dot'll have I have a

1059
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 2: question yet.

1060
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: I for most of the draft season have really been

1061
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: very interested in Roki where he's going. I get the concerns,

1062
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: especially the Dodgers of it all, and the fact that

1063
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: they don't need him to pitch that much. Like, to me,

1064
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: that's a larger concern than how he will be when

1065
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: he is on the mound. I know we kind of

1066
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: said already, like at the top of the show looked

1067
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: maybe a little erratic for part of it, but like

1068
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: the arm talent is so obvious. I really think a

1069
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: splitter might be like one of the five best pitches

1070
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: in baseball already. I like, I'm maybe that's projecting out

1071
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: of it, but I think I think it could be

1072
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 1: this season. Honestly, I think it's that good. Like that

1073
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: is one thing where I don't care very much about

1074
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: spring stats, but just watching him the spring, just watching

1075
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: one of his splitters, and I'm like, sold, I don't

1076
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: need to see another pitch to think this guy's really awesome.

1077
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: So I think You're right though, because other people have

1078
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: seen those clips and have seen, you know, the hype

1079
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: starting to build and stuff like that. Also, just when

1080
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: you see arding picture throw a hundred miles an hour,

1081
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: you know it's really exciting. But yeah, I think I

1082
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: think this is a good pick here.

1083
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and his ADP is pushing inside the top one hundred.

1084
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: By the way, I want to go backwards really quickly.

1085
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: Speaking of pictures, you can hit one hundred miles per hour.

1086
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: I meant to throw this guy's name out and I

1087
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: didn't start. I just wanted very quickly, and that most

1088
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: likely to succeed. Portion I went with McLanahan because his

1089
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: ADP is lower. I very strongly considered Hunter Green. I

1090
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: think Hunter Green's ADP is like borderline disrespectful right now,

1091
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: given what he did last year, it's in ninety fourth.

1092
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 2: Well.

1093
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: I actually just wrote him up for a featured pros

1094
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: article that we have coming on the site soon as

1095
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: a picture in that range that I really like. His

1096
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: stats last year were very good, and like some of

1097
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: the expected stats were like a little worse, but they

1098
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: were still very good. A lot of it was like

1099
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: eighty ninth, ninetieth percentile if you look on stat cast

1100
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: in terms of stuff like you know, expected era and

1101
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: things like that, and what we actually got was the

1102
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: most innings he's thrown in a season in his career,

1103
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty. I know it is still you know,

1104
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of injury stuff, but one hundred and

1105
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: fifty innings, you know, more than strikeout per inning and

1106
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: e RA under threes. Expected DRA was still right around three,

1107
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: a whip of one o two, and I think there's

1108
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: room for another step forward. He's twenty five years old.

1109
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: We know the arm talent his I had actually never

1110
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: I was unfamiliar with this stat but I saw in

1111
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: researching that blurb that he leads major League Baseball in

1112
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: pro stuff plus this year or this spring so far.

1113
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: So the arm talent. Obviously, I don't need to tell

1114
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: everybody that Hunter Green has a great arm, but I

1115
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 1: think in ADP in the nineties is wild for him.

1116
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: Like you're telling me Hunter Green's ADPs in the nineties

1117
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: and Jacob de Grobs is in the fifties. Like that.

1118
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: It blows my mind. So I wanted to chhat him

1119
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: ot quickly because when you mentioned Roki that reminded me

1120
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: I had meant to bring him up as well before

1121
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: we get to our last category.

1122
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 2: Green.

1123
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: What I was gonna say, any quick thoughts on Green

1124
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: before we get to the last category. Uh No.

1125
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: I was actually gonna ask you, because I was looking

1126
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 2: at the Eity people you were talking before, if you

1127
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: would rather have Hunter Green or Rookie Sasaki. And I

1128
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: think you answered my question.

1129
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: I would rather have Hunter Green, but I like them

1130
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: both where they're going. All right, So the last category here,

1131
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: I'll go first, So I didn't tell you who my

1132
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: pick is here. I went with most s Gullible, which

1133
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: is another fun, fun, real life high school superlative. My

1134
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: most s gullible is you, Mike Mayer for being in

1135
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: on Mike Trout again this year.

1136
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: I love it.

1137
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: We've talked about this a bit. We talked about it

1138
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: with Scott Pianowski on the Fest also at some of

1139
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: our other shows. We don't need to spend too much

1140
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: time on it. But I think this is Lucy with

1141
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: the football and you're Charlie Brown. I don't. I don't

1142
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: think Mike Trout is I mean it's it is not

1143
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: to the same level as I feel about Jacob de Gram.

1144
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: It's not far off in terms of my concerned level

1145
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: for getting a full season out of him. You asked

1146
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 1: me about Trout earlier in the show, and I didn't

1147
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: want to reveal that I had you as this pick

1148
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: in regards to Trout. But yes, I again, you cannot

1149
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 1: have any degree of confidence that Mike Trout is gonna

1150
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: have a healthy season, and I think you are setting

1151
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: yourself up for disappointment. And much like Jacob Degram, I

1152
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: really hope I'm wrong. Baseball is better when Mike Trout

1153
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: is good. But I think you're you're being gullible here.

1154
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: Well, I'm really I didn't prepare speech. I don't know

1155
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: what to say now. I don't. I want to thank

1156
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 2: God and my mom for believing in me, and thank

1157
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: everyone for this Dundee for most callable.

1158
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: I feel good. Miss chillis today.

1159
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 2: Great reference. Yeah, I found a little bit more strong,

1160
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: a little bit more strongly about him when ADP was

1161
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 2: closer to one hundred. Now it's pushing into the eighties,

1162
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: which is making me less excited about it, because those

1163
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: two rounds really do matter at that point, even though

1164
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 2: I took him at like ninety four in a recent draft. Yeah,

1165
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm fully aware that I'm gambling, and you know,

1166
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 2: I'm just you know, I want to go fast. I

1167
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: want to I wanted, I want to take the leap

1168
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: and take the gamble, and so I'm fully aware of

1169
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 2: the risk and I know it could be foolish, but

1170
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: here I am ready to do it all over again.

1171
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: We have a salary cap draft coming up that you

1172
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: and I are both in. We actually have two in

1173
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: the league where we have a three hundred dollars budget

1174
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: and it's a deep keeper league. How much do you like,

1175
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: how much do you want to spend on Trout in

1176
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: a league like that? Because I think when you think

1177
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: about ADP, it's really easy to think about like kind

1178
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: of this range in the round. But when it comes

1179
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: time for a salary cap draft, you have to you

1180
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: might have to decide earlier and not really know what

1181
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: your remaining budget is for the rest of your team.

1182
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: Yet if he gets nominated early, so somebody like Trout,

1183
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: like when you actually have to put a dollar amount

1184
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: to it, how much are you looking to spend on

1185
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: him in that kind of format?

1186
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 2: Well, give me one second, because I will put my

1187
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: money where my mouth is because I did purchase him

1188
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 2: in a salary cap draft. So what did you say?

1189
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: The budget was three hundred in our league, It's going

1190
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: to be three hundred that we're draft.

1191
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: So this one is two sixty. Okay, but it's a

1192
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 2: big money draft, so I really had to gamble on it.

1193
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: I spent seventeen dollars.

1194
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's I feel better about that than

1195
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: I do about drafting him, you know in the eighties,

1196
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: Like I think seventeen I'm a bit more comfortable with.

1197
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 2: And I got Brian Reynolds for fifteen.

1198
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: Nice, you're steady, Eddy, Okay, Yeah, I just wanted to

1199
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: kind of put a number two because we often talk

1200
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: about ADP in terms of the round obviously, but there's

1201
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: a lot of salary cap drafts out there too. All right,

1202
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: what is your final category?

1203
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 2: My final category is Class couple, And I wanted to

1204
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 2: My thinking here was kind of, you know, kind of

1205
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 2: that strategy we're late, mid to late in drafts. You

1206
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 2: kind of Frankensteins some production where maybe you take someone

1207
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 2: who hits a lot of home runs, not going to

1208
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: give you any much batting average or any speed, and

1209
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: you pair him with someone who does give you a

1210
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 2: batting average at speed. So my class couple is Jake

1211
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: Berger and Victor Robliss, because I think you can get

1212
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: Jake Berger, and I think you're going to get a

1213
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: better Jake Burger season than we've seen. I think you're

1214
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 2: going to get thirty plus home runs and you know,

1215
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 2: solid production for him across the board. Batting a little

1216
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 2: bit too low in the projected line up, but I'm

1217
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 2: confident he will move up in that lineup. I don't

1218
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 2: think there's a ton blocking him if he gets hot,

1219
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 2: and I think you can get you can get him.

1220
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: Where can you get him. It's it's not a prohibitive

1221
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: price ONWEL one hundred and twelve, and I'm pairing him

1222
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 2: with Victor Robles, who's going much later, who's going one

1223
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: ninety three moves up to Robus was in the two hundreds. Yeah,

1224
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 2: but I think you can get thirty plus home runs

1225
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: on like a two forty is two to fifty average

1226
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: from Jake Berger, maybe some solid RBI and Victor Roblos

1227
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: is someone who could hit three hundred maybe to eighty

1228
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 2: two ninety and steal forty plus bass for you. And

1229
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: so combining those two again, it's two picks outside of

1230
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 2: the top one hundred one closer to two hundred, where

1231
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 2: you know, when you start picking later in drafts, you're

1232
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 2: gonna have to give up some production. You're not going

1233
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: to draft a perfect prospect every time, but you can

1234
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,919
Speaker 2: kind of target those specific categories that you want, pair

1235
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: them together and you get a perfect romantic couple like

1236
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 2: Jack Berger and Victor Robliss.

1237
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: I've been all over Robless this year. We've talked about

1238
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: him a bunch. I think he's one of the best

1239
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: late round picks you can target, and I think Burger

1240
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: is a great player to pair with him for all

1241
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: the reasons you later, I don't have anything to add

1242
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: to I think that's a great call, and especially where

1243
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: they're going, you can get them like this is not

1244
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: somebody you're gonna have to reach on roeblist. I mean,

1245
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: he does have some helium. Like I said, that ADP

1246
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: has gone up, so maybe you do reach around early

1247
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: to get him if you want to kind of go

1248
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: for a pairing like this, But I think he'll still

1249
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: be a good value around or two ahead of even

1250
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: where his ADP is now. I think he's a great call,

1251
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: and like I said, I love the pairing, so I

1252
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: think that's great, we did it. We filled out our

1253
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: earbook here.

1254
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: All right, long strange trip it's been.

1255
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll go yeah, Hags, have a great summer. All right,

1256
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: we'll wrap up there.

1257
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: Okay, keep in touch.

1258
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. If if anybody has any other earbooks of protos

1259
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: they want to throw out, drop him in the comments.

1260
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: We'll read the best ones next week. Or if you

1261
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: have different player picks for some of the categories we

1262
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: went with today, be sure to share those as well.

1263
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: Like I said, we are going to have an episode drop.

1264
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: I believe it should be dropping on Opening Day, so

1265
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: everybody can check that out. Maybe listen to it while

1266
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: you're watching your games throughout all day. I know that's

1267
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: Opening Day is very much a holiday in my household,

1268
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: so I'm really looking forward to that. Hopefully everybody enjoys

1269
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: the episode. We're gonna be talking biggest questions heading into

1270
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five Fantasy Baseball season, So if you

1271
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: have questions that you are curious to see how they

1272
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: are answered. We're not answering these questions. We're kind of

1273
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: just posing what do we think about these and maybe

1274
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: giving our best guesses, and we'll see how it plays

1275
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: out during the year. If you have any questions you

1276
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: are curious to see how they're answered during the season,

1277
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,959
Speaker 1: be sure to drop those in the comments as well.

1278
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: Also be sure, like I said, drop a comment in

1279
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: there try and win that John Smoltz Jersey very cool

1280
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: prize for giving away as well. For Mayor, I'm Ryan

1281
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: warmly thanks everybody for tuning in this week and we

1282
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: will see you again next week on the Fantasy Pros

1283
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: MLB YouTube channel or wherever you listen to your podcast

1284
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,440
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