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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Horizon

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Speaker 1: Forbid Trend West.

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Speaker 2: Let's go cook.

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Speaker 1: I am Jack, and I'm thrilled to be joined by

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Speaker 1: a special guest co host, DJ Daniel.

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Speaker 2: Good mate, that's me baby.

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Speaker 3: Happy for all my fellow Portland trail blazers out there.

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Speaker 3: I hope everybody for twenty Eve.

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Speaker 2: That's right, not today?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I fucked up, you blew it and we

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Speaker 1: we already recorded the four twenty episode for tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Uh, same thing tomorrow, that's all I'm saying. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: saying that's all right.

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Speaker 1: Hey, some people start early. It's like Christmas. Eve has

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Speaker 1: its own tradish. Maybe for twenty Eve does too.

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Speaker 2: Leave out milk and cookies for Snoop Dogg.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, start baking your cookies for tomorrow. That's

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Speaker 1: before you bake yourself bro am. I right, put the

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Speaker 1: cookies and milk out, all right. Horizon Forbidden West The

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Speaker 1: Burning Shores has released and yeah, yes, five gamers are eating.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for Thank you for reading my headline so effectively.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: I just doing my best to act like I know

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Speaker 1: what any of that means. All I know about video games.

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Speaker 1: Is from the c net article that says all the

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Speaker 1: best video games are old and open opens with this sentence.

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Speaker 1: I was like, right when I read the headline, I

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Speaker 1: was like, okay, this is a forty two year old

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Speaker 1: white guy. Turns out the first sentence of the article

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Speaker 1: is I am old forty one years old to be precise,

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Speaker 1: so good. I was all by one year. But anyways,

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Speaker 1: tell me why you're excited about gaming, and particularly Horizon

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Speaker 1: Forbidden West.

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Speaker 2: The burn certainly will.

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Speaker 3: The Horizon franchise is my favorite video game story franchise,

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Speaker 3: followed closely by the Last of Us. The Forbidden West expansion,

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Speaker 3: The Burning Shores is set in my hometown of Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: A bit of a spoiler kind of for people who

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Speaker 3: haven't played the Horizon franchise, but alas, it's amazing. It's

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Speaker 3: this huge open area. It's a third of the size

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Speaker 2: That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing and introduced new mechanics and it's just I

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Speaker 3: just you know, let me tell you something. This game

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Speaker 3: is always pushing the envelope on how incredible video games

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Speaker 3: can look and feel. It's some of the best mechanical

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Speaker 3: expression that I found in video games. If you like

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Speaker 3: the idea of hunting giant robots with a bow and

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Speaker 3: character who doesn't take any shit from anybody. I just

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Speaker 3: could not recommend it highly enough. The expansion came out,

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Speaker 3: I will be streaming it later on Twitch so that

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Speaker 3: if anybody wants to watch me go oh my good,

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Speaker 3: then you can watch me there. But yeah, it's just

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just another fucking great game that uh

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Speaker 3: deserves some love. And so yeah, check out Horizon Forbidden West.

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Speaker 3: The Burning Shore is released right now out on the

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Speaker 3: PS five. It is so good and worth all your money.

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Speaker 1: That sounds boring to me. I prefer Super Mario Brothers

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Speaker 1: because I'm old and my opinions on video games matter.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the word mechanic a couple of times. Yes,

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Speaker 1: what does this mean?

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Speaker 3: Mechanic is just the way that you are able to

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Speaker 3: as well. Some games are described as clunky or slow,

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Speaker 3: good mechanical expression, but her Verizon Forbidden West has particularly

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Speaker 3: strong mechanical expression, meaning how you interact with the game

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Speaker 1: Mmmmm, got it?

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Speaker 1: How's it compared to the mechanics of Super Mario Brothers. No,

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Speaker 1: And I just don't have the time to put into

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Speaker 3: Look the things in my own life that I've put

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Speaker 3: my feelings a little bit. Wouldn't trade it for anything else, though. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I watched a lot of movies.

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Speaker 1: I watch a lot of TV, listen to music like all,

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Speaker 1: to like, for instance, this next story, Twilight is getting

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Speaker 2: Your big team Edward, right, Oh, come on.

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Speaker 1: Is there any like I think the I think history

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but this just seems to be a thing that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everything is going to get rebooted into a TV series,

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Speaker 1: So another day, another innocent kid shot by a scared

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Speaker 1: It's so flagrant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the goal is to protect commerce at all costs,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just really really disappointing. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, Ben Shapiro is doing his part worrying about what

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Speaker 1: is going to happen in Frozen four. There there's just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean what can they possibly do? They're under attack?

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Speaker 1: and talk about the Duncan menu is bringing back an

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Speaker 2: Much too much chagrin, I'll have you know. Is that real?

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Speaker 1: You're you're you're a fan.

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Speaker 3: Bro, I'm your fucking pumpkin spice baby over here. I stay,

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Speaker 3: I stay drinking all them flavored coffees because you know what, Frankly,

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Speaker 3: And if I'm gonna have a couple of pumps of

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: And butter pecan is particularly pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Hits the spot, a little little little bit of a

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Speaker 3: tiny little bit of smoky flavor, that butteriness, making it

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Speaker 1: Sounds delicious. This is also just very This seems like

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Speaker 1: But the classic flavor is later to return to Dunkan

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Speaker 3: You know, who is the most I shouldn't say guilty,

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Speaker 3: but who uses this tactic the most by far is Mcdonald'sonald,

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Speaker 3: the McRib spicy nuggets.

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Speaker 3: Sauce back and people would lose their minds, like all

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Speaker 3: It's like, bitch, you've had it in the freezer for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: Come eat piggies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, you know what, pink pink, Yeah, this little

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Speaker 1: Story that I think we even talked about. The McRib

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Speaker 3: I don't know this is a bad person because he's

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Speaker 1: There's an attention economy where you know, doing some edge

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Speaker 2: Miserable. Yeah, one of the worst, really, really, one of

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Speaker 1: Cool world. All right, Well, those are some of the

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Speaker 1: things that are trending on this Wednesday, April nineteenth. We

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Speaker 1: are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show.

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Speaker 1: Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves,

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Speaker 1: get the vaccine. Yes, don't do nothing about white supremacy.

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Speaker 1: And we will talk to y'all tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Bye. Peace,