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Speaker 1: my right, from wage to Talk thirty nine years into
Speaker 1: business Marco to Angelo. Good morning, Marco, I'm doing very well.
Speaker 1: How are you? As the real question? You doing good?
Speaker 1: Last week was one of those weeks of the super
Speaker 1: Contest in Classic where I share an entry. I was
Speaker 1: four and one in gold I was five and oh
Speaker 1: and I picked up all of one game. It was
Speaker 1: such a it was such a everybody did well kind
Speaker 1: of week in the NFL. This is a very funny
Speaker 1: week because lots of huge lines like eight different lines
Speaker 1: of a touchdown or more in the NFL will get
Speaker 1: into it momentarily. On my left is always on the show.
Speaker 1: Out of the sports betting diaspora. Ace, what's happening? Man?
Speaker 1: Never better, bro. I got coming off a terrible Sunday
Speaker 1: in the NFL. That was my worst week of the year.
Speaker 1: I mean just everything went went wrong, you know. Fortunately
Speaker 1: I didn't give out two month volume, didn't bet a
Speaker 1: lot of volume, but I just could not win for
Speaker 1: nothing on Sunday. Are you allowed to talk? About that
Speaker 1: boxing thing you were just talking about off air. You're
Speaker 1: not allowed to talk about it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely mentioned
Speaker 1: it to the people. Mention it to the people. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They're now that the UFC signed the deal with h ESPN,
Speaker 1: they're asked to produce more content and obviously you know
Speaker 1: the UFCS, UFC's embraced sports betting and wants to start
Speaker 1: create more content covering it from that aspect um. And
Speaker 1: they they're creating a new show for ESPN plus that
Speaker 1: they asked me to be a part of. And we're
Speaker 1: actually with the next pay per view UFC that's coming
Speaker 1: up the first week of December. Um, will be the
Speaker 1: first episode that we that airs. Um. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: just coming on to probably do a segment and cover
Speaker 1: it from the Vegas angle. UM. But I'm just glad
Speaker 1: to be asked to do it. You know, thousands of
Speaker 1: people covered the sports. So I'm just congratulations out to me,
Speaker 1: Congratulations to you. I'm excited. No, that's awesome. Uh, thankfully
Speaker 1: or hopefully they don't listen to this podcast, because the
Speaker 1: second they do, you are out. They're gonna be like
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Speaker 1: the reputation that's I just mess it with you. Congratulations
Speaker 1: for real. Couldn't be happy this week and last week
Speaker 1: at the Truths of the Truth. Man, I'm two and
Speaker 1: seven on on best Bets for the podcast this year.
Speaker 1: I can't put it any other way. I mean, truth
Speaker 1: be told. I I document everything, my bets on my head.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm I've been a decent NFL year. I
Speaker 1: just my best bets. I just can't win, man, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Let me let me
Speaker 1: introduce the guests. Let me introduce the guests. We're very
Speaker 1: happy for you, though. I am very happy for you.
Speaker 1: First time on the show, first time on the show,
Speaker 1: and has been here in uh in Vegas all these years,
Speaker 1: twenty years in sports broadcasting, hosting sports talk radio. I
Speaker 1: played golf with him Super Contest weekend last year and
Speaker 1: uh he tried everything possible to get me into uh
Speaker 1: lots of trouble. So I appreciate him for that. He's
Speaker 1: now hosting sports X Radio over at seven twenty k
Speaker 1: d w N here in Las Vegas. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: Ken Thompson, thank you Ken for doing this. Alexander. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you and anything you know, doing anything with a
Speaker 1: Sir Marco always always solid. But you guys do a
Speaker 1: great job. We can week down to step in for
Speaker 1: Brady Cannon. Then I feel honored. Yeah, Brady, who was
Speaker 1: on the first week of this year's podcast. Brady's always
Speaker 1: on a week one. He's kind of a tradition. So
Speaker 1: I asked Brady, and Brady was like, no, but I
Speaker 1: got Ken right here. Brady couldn't do it on short notice,
Speaker 1: so we appreciate you stepping in. Let's begin, gentlemen, with
Speaker 1: the Monday night game. Monday Night. Oh, they don't get
Speaker 1: any worse than this. Giants at San Francisco can I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start with you. I'm not even gonna elaborate. Usually
Speaker 1: I go through a whole litany of stats. Uh, suffice
Speaker 1: it to say the Giants are coming off of by
Speaker 1: their one in seven. Eli Manning is still their quarterback.
Speaker 1: San Francisco coming off extra rest here. When last we
Speaker 1: saw them, they were playing on a Thursday night where
Speaker 1: they completely destroyed the Oakland Raiders. Uh you're Oakland Raiders.
Speaker 1: Sorry to lead with that, Ken. San Francisco is two
Speaker 1: and seven. The Niners are three point favorites here Nick
Speaker 1: Mullins was the starter that day when two sixty two
Speaker 1: three touchdowns note pics a one fifty one point nine
Speaker 1: passer rating, just a completely outlying pro debut. Amazing performance.
Speaker 1: But you couldn't have a worse game in terms of
Speaker 1: fan interest. From a betting standpoint, any value here are
Speaker 1: you betting this? And if so, which way? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: am betting it actually, And you know what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: look at. I looked at both sides and the Giants
Speaker 1: coming off of by always intriguing. Even on the team's
Speaker 1: one and seven, I'm looking at this team saying, you
Speaker 1: know what, we got eight games to go. We're not
Speaker 1: making the postseason, but let's go out. Let's make Beckham health,
Speaker 1: you know, happy, Let's uh throw the ball around. Let's
Speaker 1: try and get some protection on the offensive line, which
Speaker 1: has been you know, just absolutely pathetic. I mean between
Speaker 1: them and of course watching the Raiders like I do
Speaker 1: every week, watching those offensive lines, it's just been tough
Speaker 1: to even watch football, you know, with that low uh,
Speaker 1: you know, just percentage of being able to block one
Speaker 1: on one and uh, you know, when I watched this
Speaker 1: Giant team, they just don't they just don't have it,
Speaker 1: but coming off to buy, you know they're gonna go
Speaker 1: up against Mullins. They've got film on him. Now. Look,
Speaker 1: I followed Mullens's career at Southern Miss. The kids got
Speaker 1: talent in a wide open offense, and I think the
Speaker 1: kid can make it. But it's a big game for
Speaker 1: him because he's going to get the start over Bethard.
Speaker 1: Bethard's still a little bit banged up, but it's a
Speaker 1: chance to show Shanahan that hey, I'm your number two
Speaker 1: guy when Garoppolo comes back, so I think you know
Speaker 1: you'll get his best effort. I looked at the weather,
Speaker 1: sixty degrees around kickoff, no wind, giants off of by
Speaker 1: going to air it out a little bit more try
Speaker 1: and get back a more involved I really think that
Speaker 1: this game has a chance to go over the forty
Speaker 1: four points, even though the two average under forty two
Speaker 1: between them. I'm looking at this game with great weather,
Speaker 1: no wind coming into play. Normally the Bay Area around
Speaker 1: this time, even Santa Clara, you're gonna get some win
Speaker 1: come into play. But it looks like a perfect fork
Speaker 1: asked for points to be scored. And let's say so
Speaker 1: when you got one and seven and two and seven.
Speaker 1: They have nothing to loose. Throw the ball around, you know,
Speaker 1: entertain the Monday night crowd because they don't have a
Speaker 1: flex schedule like the Sunday night game. So entertain some people.
Speaker 1: And uh Ogle Tree is still questionable with the hamstring,
Speaker 1: so that hurts the Giants a little bit on defense
Speaker 1: as well. But I'm gonna play over the total of
Speaker 1: forty four in this game. Over the total forty four.
Speaker 1: I lived at the Bear for twenty one years, and
Speaker 1: I often said in my two decades there, that's the
Speaker 1: area of the country that global warming helped the most.
Speaker 1: It is much more mild, to your point, Ken Uh
Speaker 1: this time of year than it ever was, say, ten
Speaker 1: or fifteen years ago. It's very interesting how the climate
Speaker 1: has changed there. This is in Santa Clara, obviously closer
Speaker 1: to Silicon Valley, San Francisco as we speak. This is Uh.
Speaker 1: The juice is moving a little on this. It's three
Speaker 1: with extra juice. Consensus in favor of the home standing
Speaker 1: Niners here and Nick Mullins is getting the start. It
Speaker 1: was a Kyle Shanahan decision. It's almost as if C. J.
Speaker 1: Bethard could have gone in this game. But chan A
Speaker 1: hand is actually making the decision. It appears to go
Speaker 1: with Nick Mullins. It's it's a little unclear, but it
Speaker 1: sounds to me that way. Uh. Nick Mullins, though, Marko,
Speaker 1: if I go to you this because if I, if
Speaker 1: I have gleaned anything from your talks through the years, Marco,
Speaker 1: there's certain things that I like to call Marco is
Speaker 1: ms and let me just guess that one of your
Speaker 1: talking points here will be. This is different though, because
Speaker 1: even though Mullins started that game, we didn't really know
Speaker 1: he was starting till day of game, literally hours beforehand.
Speaker 1: Here the Giants have had all the time to prepare
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, and I'm just gonna open this game
Speaker 1: with saying, uh, one of the greatest movie lines of
Speaker 1: all time from The Godfather. Just when I thought I
Speaker 1: was out, they pulled me back in fucking giants him again.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a Monday night game off the bias,
Speaker 1: Ken said, but more importantly, whenever you're one in seven, Okay,
Speaker 1: the season's over for him. We all know it's been
Speaker 1: over for some time. But these are old professionals and
Speaker 1: it's a standalone, nationally televised game on a Monday night
Speaker 1: they don't want to be embarrassed again. If they're gonna
Speaker 1: come to play, this is the game they come to play.
Speaker 1: And as you said, yes, it's easier for a quarterback
Speaker 1: you know, to go in there, you know, almost cold.
Speaker 1: I mean they didn't tell anybody until you said hours
Speaker 1: before then we saw that line move like crazy on
Speaker 1: that Thursday night game. Now he's had a long time
Speaker 1: to think about it. And is Keen pointed out too,
Speaker 1: there's at least one game a film to look at.
Speaker 1: I like the Giants in this spot, and I will
Speaker 1: say that this probably will be if the Giants don't
Speaker 1: find a way to get the money here in this one.
Speaker 1: There's just no way that you can back them at
Speaker 1: any point the rest of the season. This is the
Speaker 1: type of game that if they're gonna show up, it's here.
Speaker 1: They've had two weeks to try to come up with
Speaker 1: a game plan to fix that offense that has been
Speaker 1: absolutely horrific. I'll go ahead and give him the shot.
Speaker 1: I got the Giants winning this all right, little pre
Speaker 1: flop bet for Marco on this one, Ace I won't
Speaker 1: belabor at Giant San Francisco Monday night, obviously not what
Speaker 1: they anticipated when they made this schedule, the folks over
Speaker 1: at Monday Night Football didn't expect a combined three wins
Speaker 1: between these two teams at that time. But they thought
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo would be the quarterback for the Niners, and
Speaker 1: they thought the Giants would actually be a credible football team.
Speaker 1: Neither obviously the case right here. Yeah, bottom line is
Speaker 1: one of our greatest assets, as better as the ability
Speaker 1: to pass. I mean, you can't lose money you don't
Speaker 1: put in the middle. And the bottom line is, if
Speaker 1: you don't love a game, I mean really feel like
Speaker 1: you have an edge, you're just gambling. And if you're
Speaker 1: laying one ten to flip a coin, you're setting yourself
Speaker 1: up for long term uh, you know, losing your bank
Speaker 1: roll eventually. I mean, you just can't continue to practice
Speaker 1: like that and expect good results. Um, and this is
Speaker 1: one of those games. If you don't love going in,
Speaker 1: there's no reason to put your money to on. You'll
Speaker 1: find better spots to get down. You have a one
Speaker 1: and seven team against the two and seventeen. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: three wins between them. Uh, here's what I can tell you.
Speaker 1: Not in the groups that I provide accounts four touched
Speaker 1: this game so far, but hit that I ship, uh
Speaker 1: share info with He told me his guy's best San
Speaker 1: Francisco minus three. Actually text me this morning and said,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna if you like the San franc side.
Speaker 1: By mid afternoon, you won't find threes. There'll be three
Speaker 1: and a half or three minus twenty five. They're supposed
Speaker 1: to hit it today, so if you see that happen,
Speaker 1: his group hit it. Um, so obviously they like something
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. But personally I don't like this game. Um.
Speaker 1: I listening to Kenny, he kind of made sense. You
Speaker 1: know you've got two teams not playing for much. Um,
Speaker 1: it takes a little more effort to play defense. So
Speaker 1: I see that for sure. Um. But for me, I
Speaker 1: don't want to waste any of the listeners time, Like
Speaker 1: I said, unless something strong comes in from sources other
Speaker 1: than myself. Um, this is a pass for me. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: for me, this is exactly like that San Francisco Oakland game.
Speaker 1: And I said this on Visa on the Numbers game
Speaker 1: uh Monday through Friday series SEXUM channel two A four,
Speaker 1: where I said, hey, um, I'm not betting this pre flop.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch a driver to which is exactly what
Speaker 1: I did in a San Francisco Oakland game. Then you
Speaker 1: have the information right there where you're like, oh, Oakland
Speaker 1: really does suck ass. So it was a live betting
Speaker 1: tour to force on the Niners. It was just a
Speaker 1: Niners flood the rest of that game. And that's how
Speaker 1: I think you bet this game. I think you wait
Speaker 1: to watch a little bit of it and then jump in.
Speaker 1: That's how I'd prefer to bet it. Anyway. I'm with
Speaker 1: you as no pre flop for me. Sunday night, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: Dallas at Philadelphia, NFC East game between the reeling Cowboys
Speaker 1: for at three and five and the Eagles here who
Speaker 1: are very poised now in the NFC East with the
Speaker 1: Redskins offensive line being decimated and the Giants being in
Speaker 1: the uh seller of the division to really recapture their
Speaker 1: dominance of this division. Now, I do a guessing line
Speaker 1: show on Monday, as you guys know, both on the
Speaker 1: podcast and at Vison, and I guessed before I got
Speaker 1: to see Dallas play tennis, see Marco. I guessed four
Speaker 1: and a half in this game NFC East game. Usually
Speaker 1: back in the day, this was always three points, but
Speaker 1: Dallas kind of reeling. I said four and a half,
Speaker 1: and Tim Fitzgerald over the South Point, who was filling
Speaker 1: in for Christie this week, said to me six, and
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I was like, wow, Philadelphia by six,
Speaker 1: like that seems really high. And then Dallas went ahead
Speaker 1: and laid an egg, and it's seven now, and I
Speaker 1: kind of get the seven now more than I did
Speaker 1: the six. Then. Nonetheless, that's the consensus number. The Eagles
Speaker 1: favored by a full touchdown over a Dallas team that
Speaker 1: hasn't won a game on the road yet this year,
Speaker 1: and Philly's got the extra rest here. How do you feel,
Speaker 1: Marco about this one? I don't feel really good. It's
Speaker 1: an ugly thing that we got to look at the
Speaker 1: Cowboys two prime time games in a row, and you
Speaker 1: talk about getting screwed by the schedule makers. You got
Speaker 1: them off of a Monday night game, have to come
Speaker 1: back on a short week play on Sunday against the
Speaker 1: team that was on a by I mean, that's just
Speaker 1: not supposed to happen. And it's a division in games,
Speaker 1: so you know, I mean, it's added advantage to Philadelphia
Speaker 1: in this spot. You look at it, you know, and
Speaker 1: over the years, you know, when we talk about situational spots,
Speaker 1: it's always been a good play to jump on a
Speaker 1: team that you know, look bad on Monday Night football.
Speaker 1: And once again Dallas looked bad. He really couldn't get
Speaker 1: anything going, uh nothing in the second half. Why they
Speaker 1: quit running Zeke Elliott is beyond me. There's no reason
Speaker 1: that they should have only ran the football nineteen times
Speaker 1: in that game. You know, I know that they ended
Speaker 1: up losing by two scores, but it was a tie
Speaker 1: game into the third quarter. You're it's not like you're
Speaker 1: playing catch up and you have to throw on every down.
Speaker 1: They don't have the balance. And if this team doesn't
Speaker 1: have balance on offense, they've got no shot. And since
Speaker 1: they added a Marii Cooper, you would think it would
Speaker 1: have made life even easier for Elliott because they do
Speaker 1: have to uh worry about a past threat now with
Speaker 1: having a big play receiver. Granted he was only into
Speaker 1: the system for a week, but they made a you know,
Speaker 1: an effort to go to him on Monday night. Maybe
Speaker 1: almost too much. I look at this one, There's only
Speaker 1: one way for me to play it. Even though Dallas
Speaker 1: uh is still ranked number four defensively at five point
Speaker 1: three yards per play, and uh, Philadelphia is at twenty
Speaker 1: one with its six yards a play. Uh. Normally I
Speaker 1: would take the better defensive team getting points, but I
Speaker 1: think if you're gonna do this, the way to go
Speaker 1: with it is tease, UH Philadelphia down, get them down
Speaker 1: to minus one on the teaser. I don't see Dallas
Speaker 1: going into Philadelphia and winning, but I'm not comfortable laying
Speaker 1: the full touchdown, so I will have Philadelphia on teasers.
Speaker 1: Agree with that. That's exactly what I would do with
Speaker 1: this game, Philly on the tease, do not see Dallas
Speaker 1: winning it. Marco, by the way, thank you for not
Speaker 1: having two consecutive cursing outbursts. I appreciate that that was very,
Speaker 1: very very passionate of you in that first game. I
Speaker 1: have to tell you, Uh, I don't usually go after
Speaker 1: announcer and ounce or cruise or anything like that, because
Speaker 1: you know, we all make mistakes. We're all annoying at times,
Speaker 1: for sure. But can I just say about Joe Testa
Speaker 1: Tour and Jason Witten that I cannot deal anymore with
Speaker 1: these guys that four yard passed. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: like item number ten this year. But that four yards
Speaker 1: slanting out that a Maori Cooper scored on did they
Speaker 1: think that was picasso? Like? How many times do you
Speaker 1: see a four yard slanting out? And they talked about
Speaker 1: it like it was it gives the greatest play they'd
Speaker 1: ever seen in their lives. It's driving me nuts anyway,
Speaker 1: he see your thoughts here, Yeah, this is typical NFC East.
Speaker 1: You know, these two teams know each other so well
Speaker 1: at home field advantage usually doesn't mean much. You look
Speaker 1: at last season the road team one twice. Um. But
Speaker 1: with that said, I was surprised the line was this
Speaker 1: high as well. I mean slight power rating wise. I
Speaker 1: had it lower, um like you did, and he just
Speaker 1: of off the top of my head, it looked a
Speaker 1: little bit too high. But the more you look into it,
Speaker 1: I mean, Dallas hasn't won a single road game all year. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, you look at little things like that, and
Speaker 1: you could see why and it was shaded a little higher.
Speaker 1: You know, they haven't covered a road game all season.
Speaker 1: In fact, they score about six almost a touchdown less
Speaker 1: per game on the road, um than they do at
Speaker 1: you know overall, um, so it's pretty hard to win
Speaker 1: football games like that where I think the value lies
Speaker 1: is on the total um and it sounds square, you know,
Speaker 1: going over on a prime time game. But but here's why.
Speaker 1: When you look at this matchup, the only thing that
Speaker 1: really sticks out is is defense. You know, you have
Speaker 1: h two teams that are having a pretty good year
Speaker 1: at least points around. Defensively, Dallas is third in the NFL,
Speaker 1: Philadelphia's fifth in the NFL. Both allound less than twenty
Speaker 1: points a game. And then you look at the flip sign,
Speaker 1: how are they offensively points scored? Dallas is phill least one.
Speaker 1: So it looks like the perfect you know, situation for
Speaker 1: a low scoring game. But those type of that type
Speaker 1: of information factored into the betting line. In fact that
Speaker 1: I I believe that it shaded because of that, meaning
Speaker 1: this becomes the perfect storm for value on the over.
Speaker 1: You know, you have the perception of the fact these
Speaker 1: are two good defenses, um, so you're gonna shade the
Speaker 1: line a little bit shorter on the total um. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then a couple that with if they are really
Speaker 1: good defenses, you know that that leads to turnovers, that
Speaker 1: leads to short fields. It doesn't necessarily mean low scoring. UM.
Speaker 1: So for me, I think there's some value on that over.
Speaker 1: The only thing that scares me is it's prime time.
Speaker 1: You know, if this was in Sunday afternoon, I definitely
Speaker 1: be on the over. UM. I mean on the under.
Speaker 1: But the fact that it's prime time scares me a
Speaker 1: little bit, UM because you do see some things happen
Speaker 1: late in in prime time games where it doesn't not
Speaker 1: as much on a Sunday afternoon, and because of that,
Speaker 1: sometimes the scoring gets out of hand late in the game.
Speaker 1: But otherwise I think the uh, the the over is
Speaker 1: good in this one. Uh. You know, forty three is
Speaker 1: where it's sitting right now. UM. I just think that's
Speaker 1: the only way you could play it. I like Marco's
Speaker 1: idea with tease in it. Dallas hasn't won a single
Speaker 1: road game UM this year, and I think Philly is
Speaker 1: better than their form. Poor record reflects, UM can't lay
Speaker 1: the seven man. To me, it's it's got to be
Speaker 1: the over past total tease game for me, you know,
Speaker 1: me all I advocate is the teasers these days. I'm
Speaker 1: all about that. Forty three is. In fact, the total
Speaker 1: is the second lowest total on the board this weekend
Speaker 1: in the NFL, A full touchdown higher than the single
Speaker 1: lowest total, which is on the Buffalo Bill's Jets game,
Speaker 1: which that thirty six and a half right now, A
Speaker 1: curious line in that game that is coming down through
Speaker 1: the key number of seven. Now that Josh McCown is
Speaker 1: the quarterback and Sam Donald is not very peculiar move
Speaker 1: from my standpoint. Let's see if somebody picks that game later.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that. I stray as far as this
Speaker 1: game Dallas at Philly on Sunday Night mentioned Marii Cooper
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys and how tested Tour and Witten just
Speaker 1: were slabbing all over that play. That was Cooper's debut
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, and obviously par of the Cooper acquisition
Speaker 1: is Let's see how good Doc really is. Let's surround
Speaker 1: him with as much as we can and really evaluate
Speaker 1: this kid. This is the first game for Philadelphia. They
Speaker 1: already know what they have in Carson Wentz, but this
Speaker 1: is their first game with Golden Tate, who was traded
Speaker 1: to them from the Detroit Lions. I was amazed at
Speaker 1: the trade deadline. This was a great NFL trade deadline,
Speaker 1: the best one ever. But I was amazed at how
Speaker 1: teams were so willing to trade key players in conference,
Speaker 1: and Golden Tate from Detroit to Philadelphia was maybe the
Speaker 1: most amazing of those to me. And I'm kind of alone, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody is similarly amazed by this, Like
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, Like, why would you trade that? I
Speaker 1: get it, it's not in division, but you might compete
Speaker 1: with Phi. Last I don't think Philly's gonna win the
Speaker 1: NFC's but I was amazed that they would trade him
Speaker 1: to a team in conference. Didn't seem to bother the Lions.
Speaker 1: And so Carson Wentz will have Golden Tate at his
Speaker 1: disposal for the first time in this one. Ken, what
Speaker 1: do you think here? Man? Now you could say it's
Speaker 1: square or whatever. There's a two teams that are going
Speaker 1: in opposite directions. Philadelphia's four and four could easily be
Speaker 1: six and to come off to buy Look, Wentz is
Speaker 1: probably as close to a dent now then he has
Speaker 1: been all season. And you look at their four Their
Speaker 1: next five games are inside the NFC East. They know
Speaker 1: this is where they take care of business. They blow
Speaker 1: past the Redskins, forget Dallas, forget the Giants. Don't even
Speaker 1: let him breathe. And Philly's gonna be back with a
Speaker 1: shot to go back to the super Bowl. They have
Speaker 1: eight games to get things together. They know they're nonconference
Speaker 1: games are all against first place teams at New Orleans,
Speaker 1: at the Rams, Houston at home. So those are tough
Speaker 1: games nonconference wise. What do you do? You take care
Speaker 1: of business inside your own division. Should be a nice night.
Speaker 1: Forty five degrees, no win there in Philly again, off
Speaker 1: to buy. Marco made a good point Dallas coming off
Speaker 1: the shore week. Look, they're gonna miss left guard Connor Williams.
Speaker 1: That hurts Jaylen Mills probably misses for Philadelphia as far
Speaker 1: as in the secondary. But I think Philadelphia will win
Speaker 1: this game by double digits. I know again you look
Speaker 1: at it, it's NFC East, it's division versus division. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you there's sometimes you look at teams where they're
Speaker 1: based on their name. Dallas is one of those teams.
Speaker 1: Trust me. I've been doing a Raiders post game show
Speaker 1: here in town. The Raiders are based off their name.
Speaker 1: People wanted to, you know, jump on the Raiders. They
Speaker 1: want to jump on on this week double digits. There
Speaker 1: are certain teams that are just bad this Dallas team.
Speaker 1: Yet they put a cosmetic band aid on the wide
Speaker 1: receiver position, like grabbing a Mariy Cooper. First off, it's
Speaker 1: too late. Second of all, I've watched the Marie Cooper
Speaker 1: the last two years. He's had three good games. Guys
Speaker 1: dropped more passes than almost anybody in the league. So
Speaker 1: again you're trying to salvage the season. But again there's
Speaker 1: too much film out on Dak Prescott. He's very predictable.
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott now not getting the holes he used to
Speaker 1: when they had a tight end. Look at Dallas through
Speaker 1: all these years, whether it's Dupre or Nova check, you
Speaker 1: go on and on and on and Witten. For how
Speaker 1: many years they always had the great tight end as
Speaker 1: the safety valve. They no longer have that. It's not
Speaker 1: I mean if Colt Beaves is your number one option
Speaker 1: and then you go out and you grab a Mariy Cooper,
Speaker 1: I mean you're in some trouble offensively, and the offensive
Speaker 1: line not been what it's been in the past. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you Philly is gonna blow them out in this game.
Speaker 1: I like it. Couldn't agree more about Amara Cooper and
Speaker 1: they traded a first form. Let's point that out. And
Speaker 1: and your first comment like you might think this is square, man,
Speaker 1: let me tell you again that is. I am on
Speaker 1: a year long, if not seasons long, crusade now to
Speaker 1: push back against people who think certain plays are square,
Speaker 1: because I think, if anything, the pendulum has swung to
Speaker 1: the point where people now make plays they're more interested
Speaker 1: in sounding smart than they are to win money. And
Speaker 1: I call it the too the too cool for school
Speaker 1: crowd that you know again New England Chicago a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago when everybody was on Chicago, I'm like, really
Speaker 1: like with with all that passion, I just think that
Speaker 1: that's a interesting phenomena happening. So I'm with you there, Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: You like them not only to win it, but to
Speaker 1: cover going away on Sunday night. Let's start with Sunday games,
Speaker 1: we please, real quick. The other thing I want to
Speaker 1: say is the wake up call they got in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter when they blew a seventeen nothing lead to
Speaker 1: Carolina at home. Trust me, that's in the back of
Speaker 1: their minds. If they get a lead, they're gonna keep
Speaker 1: pushing the peddle talking about the Eagles there. In that case, yes,
Speaker 1: the Eagles squandering a seventeen to nothing fourth quarter lead
Speaker 1: against the Panthers a couple of weeks, a couple of
Speaker 1: games ago, I should say for the Eagles, it's a
Speaker 1: great point. Man Ace DIBs on Sunday, what you got
Speaker 1: this week? I do like some games, boy, I really
Speaker 1: do feel feel good about this week. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to a home dog. I'm never bad play, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go against the red hot And maybe that's why
Speaker 1: I'm getting a little bit of trouble in these best
Speaker 1: bets getting in front of red hot teams. But that's
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do this week and go against the
Speaker 1: New England Patriots who are laying six and happy you
Speaker 1: get seven minus one twenty. By Sunday it'll be seven
Speaker 1: at more spons But right now to cost the minus
Speaker 1: one um to get that seven, I don't think you're
Speaker 1: gonna need it. Um, listen, man, I think this line
Speaker 1: is just way too high. That's the bottom line here. Um. Granted,
Speaker 1: Tennessee's offense and we all know how lethargic it's been
Speaker 1: and um, but don't look now. They put up forty
Speaker 1: seven points the last two games, so seeing a little
Speaker 1: life because they're running the football. And that's when they've
Speaker 1: had success, even early in the season. I mean, when
Speaker 1: they ran the ball for a hundred fifty yards thirty
Speaker 1: five times, they beat Jacksonville. When they run it for
Speaker 1: fourteen times for fifty five yards, they lose the Baltimore
Speaker 1: at home. That's what happens. This team needs to run
Speaker 1: the football. They did so against the Chargers and almost
Speaker 1: one night game thirty three rushes for a hundred sixty
Speaker 1: four yards. And they did it last week against Dallas
Speaker 1: again running the football. Um, I think you're gonna see
Speaker 1: a lot of that this week against the New England Patriots.
Speaker 1: Another thing I really like in this matchup is all
Speaker 1: the connections between these two teams. I mean, Rabel makes
Speaker 1: it no secret. Um, he talks to Belichick every single week.
Speaker 1: In fact, he's leaned on him since he's become a coach.
Speaker 1: And what's funny, he's rabe Um. Rabel got cut and
Speaker 1: sent to whatever Kansas City or traded and he didn't
Speaker 1: talk to bell Check for like a year. He was mad, um.
Speaker 1: But you know then they became friends when he became
Speaker 1: a coach. And he says he talks to him pretty
Speaker 1: much every week. Um. What that said, there's even more
Speaker 1: connections if you dig deeper. You have the general manager
Speaker 1: for the Titans was a scout for the Patriots. You
Speaker 1: have defensive coordinator Dan P's. You have cornerbacks and logan
Speaker 1: lion Malcolm Butler. You got running back Dion Lewis. You
Speaker 1: have a lot of information in that Titans locker room.
Speaker 1: Um that I think that though, they're gonna be able
Speaker 1: to benefit from. And again, any time you have a
Speaker 1: defense like the Titans, I think the backdoor stays open.
Speaker 1: You know. I've been pushing that fem a lot, um
Speaker 1: And in the NFL, it's it's true. We see that
Speaker 1: all the time, where where teams that UH have defenses
Speaker 1: are are able to hang in games and get that
Speaker 1: backdoor cover. And I think that's what you're gonna get
Speaker 1: here by Tennessee. Wouldn't be surprised. You got to sprinkle
Speaker 1: a little something something for sure. You got a home
Speaker 1: dog that's live here. Spreckle me um. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: could see New England slipping up here. They haven't turned
Speaker 1: the ball over in two weeks. Two weeks in a
Speaker 1: row hasn't happened for them in a in a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think if they you'll get some turnovers here as well.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna benefit Tennessee. Give me the titan.
Speaker 1: That's that in that that revenge from last year. They
Speaker 1: lost in January to New England fourteen as fourteen point dogs.
Speaker 1: And what did Tennessee doing that game? They rushed the
Speaker 1: ball only sixteen times for sixty five yards. That recipe
Speaker 1: did not work. So expect a lot of running from them,
Speaker 1: and I think they'll have some success. Give me Tennessee
Speaker 1: plus six and a half. But obviously take the set
Speaker 1: and lay the ten cents extra. Don't be cheap. It's
Speaker 1: always worth it, I think, um and sprinkle a little
Speaker 1: bit on the money line. We'll get them back that way.
Speaker 1: You see, your bar stool guys are now like hashtagging
Speaker 1: sprinkle mL It's just God, is just ridiculous. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like we haven't been doing it for eight years. Imitation
Speaker 1: the sincereous form of flattery. All right, So aces on
Speaker 1: Tennessee plus the points in that one at home against
Speaker 1: New England. New England, uh six wins in a row
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. They were one and two, now they're
Speaker 1: seven and two and that was just amazing. On Sunday night,
Speaker 1: it was seventeen seventeen, Green Bay's driving and then Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones fumbles and you look up and the next thing
Speaker 1: you know, not only the Patriots win the game, not
Speaker 1: only they cover, they win by two touchdowns. And you're like,
Speaker 1: you thought that was the night where they couldn't overcome
Speaker 1: even the great Patriots couldn't overcome the loss of Sony
Speaker 1: Michelle and Rob Gronkowski, and yet they did going away.
Speaker 1: Obviously different situation at home primetime, but just amazing that
Speaker 1: franchise so aces on Tennessee, Ken, what are you looking
Speaker 1: at on Sunday? Yeah, you know, And you had to
Speaker 1: bring that up because I did have everything tied to that.
Speaker 1: Packers plus eleven and a half felt good. Sorry right now,
Speaker 1: that's all right, rather crushing, but that's what I get
Speaker 1: for not getting a little bit back as far as
Speaker 1: the in running. Could have done something when it was
Speaker 1: tide at seventeen, but didn't like to do so. So
Speaker 1: sometimes at hindsightes we know, look, I'm gonna do another
Speaker 1: play inside a division that ordinarily is a very close game.
Speaker 1: Is a is a game that people look at and say, no,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a nip and tuck game. I
Speaker 1: don't think so. I think again. We have two teams
Speaker 1: going in opposite directions talking about the Bears and the Lions,
Speaker 1: and I like the way the Bears are playing. I
Speaker 1: like Trubisky. I think Trubisky is a fun quarterback. I
Speaker 1: think he is dual talented. He's got the dual talent
Speaker 1: that he takes off and runs. He's much more selective now.
Speaker 1: He's almost looking like and I'm not gonna put his
Speaker 1: passing skills in the category of a young Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: But Aaron Rodgers back in his hey day always picked
Speaker 1: the right time to tuck that ball under and take
Speaker 1: off her fifteen seventeen eighteen yards, get out of bounds, slide,
Speaker 1: do the right things to protect himself. We're seeing that
Speaker 1: maturation out of Trubisky this year. And you get Khalil
Speaker 1: Mac back. Look Detroit second guessing himself last based on
Speaker 1: last week. They couldn't, you know, protect Stafford. The Bears
Speaker 1: have four sacks without Khalil Mac last week. Soldier field
Speaker 1: that environment. They know. Look, we're sitting five and three.
Speaker 1: We need to take this team out of the equation.
Speaker 1: Take Detroit out you play them again in a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks in Detroit, but take them out here and
Speaker 1: you go to six and three. They dropped to three
Speaker 1: and six. Then you worry about Minnesota and Green Bay,
Speaker 1: and really the Vikings are the team that they're looking
Speaker 1: you know that they're tied with right now, so uh
Speaker 1: that they're looking up with right now. So I really
Speaker 1: think that the Bears are the are the right side here. Again,
Speaker 1: I look to to try and beat Devil's advocate and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's too many points inside the division. But like I
Speaker 1: felt with Billion Dallas, I feel the same way with Chicago.
Speaker 1: I just like the way this team is playing, and
Speaker 1: I think they're sending normally in years past, we look
Speaker 1: at the Bears and they go into a Buffalo game
Speaker 1: like they did last week, and and it'd be a
Speaker 1: tough game. They'd either lose it or they'd win it
Speaker 1: by a couple of points. Instead, they lay waste of
Speaker 1: Buffalo right away and they win the game by thirty
Speaker 1: plus points. So this Bears team, to me, is going
Speaker 1: in the right direction. They're well coached, they know what
Speaker 1: they're doing, and they know they got their main guy
Speaker 1: back in Khalil Mack, who needed that extra week to
Speaker 1: really get that ankle ready to go. I think Stafford's
Speaker 1: gonna be under the rest, He's gonna make mistakes. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be about thirty four degrees somewhere in that neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Take the Dome team, put him into Soldier Field in
Speaker 1: that environment, a couple of sacks here and there, that
Speaker 1: crowd's gonna pile on, and the Bears are gonna win
Speaker 1: this game by double digits. Bears laying seven Ken all
Speaker 1: over the Bears, and this one against the lines. Matt
Speaker 1: Stafford first seven games this year was sacked total of
Speaker 1: thirteen times. Last week against the Vikings ten ten times sacked.
Speaker 1: And now for his efforts, he gets to face the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears right after that with as you point out,
Speaker 1: Ken Khalil Mack back from two weeks off with the
Speaker 1: right ankle injury. That was interesting how Mac didn't play
Speaker 1: against the Bills last week. The week before that, when
Speaker 1: he was out, it was like right before the game
Speaker 1: they said, well he probably could have played, but you know,
Speaker 1: just precautionary, we'll take him out. So you expected him
Speaker 1: to play last week, but I guess they made the calculus.
Speaker 1: They're like, well, it is the Bills. We don't really
Speaker 1: need him, So take another week. He will be back
Speaker 1: in the lineup against the Lions. And this one bears
Speaker 1: a favorite by seven again play on the Bears. There
Speaker 1: from Ken Marco. I'm gonna go to an ugly one
Speaker 1: and we're gonna go with the home dog. And right now,
Speaker 1: there's one team that after last week, is you know,
Speaker 1: risen to the top of the charts and is everybody's darling,
Speaker 1: and that's the Saints. And we talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to buy low and sell high. Well, right now,
Speaker 1: the market is not any stronger on the Saints than
Speaker 1: they are after the Rams game last week, you know,
Speaker 1: and it final score, it really wasn't even indicative of
Speaker 1: how much they dominated that game. They had the seven
Speaker 1: teen point lead and then uh the Rams come roaring back,
Speaker 1: tied it and then didn't do anything after that. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at this one. I'm gonna go against the Saints.
Speaker 1: I think the lane too many points on the road.
Speaker 1: This is talk about the Dome team going outside. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be playing in Cincinnati. Not quite Chica, I go conditions,
Speaker 1: but still you're playing outdoors. And talk about a sandwich spot.
Speaker 1: You're coming off the ramps. That was build as you know,
Speaker 1: the best game of the year so far, and it
Speaker 1: was um and you handled what everybody thought was the
Speaker 1: favorite to win the Super Bowl. And speaking of Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: who do you have up next? Well, the reigning Super
Speaker 1: Bowl champs in the Philadelphia Eagles, back at home and
Speaker 1: you have this game sandwiched on the road on the road. Oh,
Speaker 1: can I point out that this is their third road
Speaker 1: game in four weeks, in five and seven weeks. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with Cincinnati here. I know A J. Green
Speaker 1: is doubtful. Um, I would have rather had him on
Speaker 1: the field, give me another weapon. But this is all
Speaker 1: about a situational spot. And I just can't see the
Speaker 1: Saints coming with the same intensity that they had last
Speaker 1: week and what they've got on tap coming up next
Speaker 1: week at Philadelphia and you look at it, They're coming
Speaker 1: off of that Minnesota revenge game the week before then
Speaker 1: the Rams last week. Just can't put the pedal to
Speaker 1: the metal every single week. This is a great situational
Speaker 1: spot for the home dog coming off of bye take
Speaker 1: the Bengals. A J. Green gonna be out in this one.
Speaker 1: John Ross back in for the Bengals wide receiving corps.
Speaker 1: Vant's perfect also though out. It looks like in this one, Marco,
Speaker 1: you still are about the Bengals here five and a
Speaker 1: half point Dogs five and a half or six. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's climbing and this is one of those ones
Speaker 1: you wait till game day because you're gonna get the
Speaker 1: peak number when all of the uh average players come
Speaker 1: in and be grabbing the Saints. Okay, A J. Green
Speaker 1: is out? What I'm seeing guys too, He's he's definitely
Speaker 1: out for this game. Yeah, he is out. He might
Speaker 1: be out for a few weeks. Actually, a J. Green
Speaker 1: but definitely out for this one. John Ross and Vant's perfect,
Speaker 1: it appears will be out for this one. So the
Speaker 1: Bengals banged up and the Saints with Dez Bryant. I
Speaker 1: know that factored into your handicapping, Marco, and I know
Speaker 1: you spent at least an hour moving your power ratings
Speaker 1: on that one. Anyone we'll see a Dez contributes. Dez
Speaker 1: who couldn't separate from d Backs Dallas when when last
Speaker 1: we saw him. But the uh, the Saints need some
Speaker 1: production outside of Michael Thomas in their wide receiving course.
Speaker 1: So they picked up Dez. We'll see if he makes
Speaker 1: any contribution this weekend at Since all right, gentlemen, before
Speaker 1: we get to the final two questions and thoughts on
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Speaker 1: This is one of these double edged sword things I
Speaker 1: always talk about with Thursday night games because we complain
Speaker 1: as a football betting and football fan audience. We complain
Speaker 1: when the matchups suck on Thursday night. Oh it's Denver,
Speaker 1: Arizona sucks, and then when we get a good game
Speaker 1: like this, we rejoice. Caroline A. Pittsburgh. Now, sometimes the
Speaker 1: game because it's on the Thursday night, Thursday night games
Speaker 1: are scorely no matter who plays the the level of
Speaker 1: play isn't up to what we hoped, and then we
Speaker 1: lament the fact that it was Carolina Pittsburgh on Thursday,
Speaker 1: were like, I wish Carolina Pittsburgh had been on Sunday
Speaker 1: so it would be like legit games. So I don't
Speaker 1: know how this is gonna go, but it is on
Speaker 1: paper anyway, a very good matchup between the Panthers and
Speaker 1: the Steelers. And this line has gone all the way
Speaker 1: from five to three. This is three extra juice, three
Speaker 1: and a half reduced juice somewhere in that pocket right now.
Speaker 1: But there are threes widespread out there on this game.
Speaker 1: We'll start with you can any thoughts at all, real
Speaker 1: briefly on this game, if you're playing it at all. Yeah, Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: I mean even though there are two and five against
Speaker 1: the number as a favorite at Hinsfield, and Marco knows
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh better than everybody, so I was hoping maybe you'd
Speaker 1: go to Marco first. But that's okay. I'm that would
Speaker 1: leading Steelers here because I look at Carolina and they
Speaker 1: you know, you look in their their last several games.
Speaker 1: I mean, they struggle, get the sixty three yard field,
Speaker 1: go to beat the Giants thirty one, they lose at
Speaker 1: the Redskins, they make the miracle comeback at Philly. They
Speaker 1: did handle Baltimore, and that's the game that kind of
Speaker 1: has us going like, wow, we maybe Baltimore we thought
Speaker 1: was better than they are. We see that they're reeling
Speaker 1: right now. And then they come back with a nice
Speaker 1: offensive effort against Tampa Bay got the deflective pass up
Speaker 1: in the air of the McCaffrey caught, So you know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they're finding ways to win.
Speaker 1: They have Olson back, so they have some confidence. Cam
Speaker 1: is doing the right things right now. But there's something
Speaker 1: about the Steelers in a game at home short week
Speaker 1: that you know, the line might be going towards Carolina
Speaker 1: and they might be the trendy play, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take the Steelers. I'm gonna trust the big Ben is
Speaker 1: starting to get his act together. He struggled. It hasn't
Speaker 1: been an epic Big Bend season, you know, consistency wise,
Speaker 1: and he was the first one that owned the Baltimore
Speaker 1: Sunday night loss in Pittsburgh. That's why I was on
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh last week. I knew you were gonna get Ben's
Speaker 1: best effort because he knew. He said, hey, it's all
Speaker 1: on me. I played the worst second half that I
Speaker 1: played in a long time, so it's on me. And
Speaker 1: so that's why I looked at Pittsburgh when they went
Speaker 1: to Baltimore. I'll look at Pittsburgh again on the short
Speaker 1: week and down to three, I'll lay the juice. I
Speaker 1: think Pittsburgh wins the game by a touchdown. Yeah, total
Speaker 1: right around fifty one in this game right now. Warren Sharp,
Speaker 1: who was on the show this morning at Visa on
Speaker 1: a numbers game, passionate dissertation in favor of the over
Speaker 1: in this game. Carolina and Pittsburgh top five red zone teams,
Speaker 1: by the way on the season, Pittsburgh number two, Carolina
Speaker 1: number five. Marco Ken is right, you are the Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: steel authority. And I promise I won't do this every
Speaker 1: week when the Steelers come up, but one more time,
Speaker 1: I just want to say, obviously I'm a Redskin fan,
Speaker 1: That's how I grew up, but Pittsburgh. I love the
Speaker 1: city of Pittsburgh. After what happened, the tragedy at the
Speaker 1: Tree of Life Synagogue, the outpouring from the Steelers football team,
Speaker 1: the fact that they showed up at the services, and
Speaker 1: then the Pittsburgh Gazette headline in Hebrew after the funeral.
Speaker 1: I cannot express to you how heartwarming that is for
Speaker 1: those of us who are members of the tribe who
Speaker 1: saw that, because I will tell you in l A,
Speaker 1: New York, Miami, wherever there's the highest populated Jewish um
Speaker 1: centers in this country, I'm not sure it's even that there.
Speaker 1: And so that was just amazing. And so just shout
Speaker 1: out to Pittsburgh. Man. I know it has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with football, but I was just so impressed with that. Man.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh such a melting pot. I mean, really, there's so
Speaker 1: many different nationalities in Pittsburgh and they do pull together. Um.
Speaker 1: As far as Thursday night football goes, guys, normally, when
Speaker 1: you look at the short week, they generally give you
Speaker 1: a division game because it's easier to prepare for uh
Speaker 1: team that you faced twice a year rather than uh,
Speaker 1: you know, once every four years. Uh. So, with that said,
Speaker 1: I would agree with the over uh. With the preparation,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have it. I think the offenses will
Speaker 1: be ahead of the defenses in this game and you'll
Speaker 1: see scoring. But as far as the game goes itself, normally,
Speaker 1: this would be an advantage for the home team on
Speaker 1: the short week of prep, uh, with neither team being
Speaker 1: familiar with the other. But here's the problem for the Steelers,
Speaker 1: and there's several in this game. One is they're coming
Speaker 1: off their biggest rivalry game of the season. You all,
Speaker 1: you've heard me talk about it a gazillion times of
Speaker 1: about the Steelers in Ravens, how hard of hitting those
Speaker 1: games are. And now you've got to come back on
Speaker 1: a short week after a hard hitting game that you
Speaker 1: had circled in red, after you got embarrassed on Sunday
Speaker 1: night football earlier in the season. So that's a horrible
Speaker 1: spot just for the bodies of the Steelers to come back. Secondly,
Speaker 1: and we talk about revenge, did you look at who
Speaker 1: the Steelers play next? I know they're a non factor
Speaker 1: this year, but believe me, the Steelers remember last year
Speaker 1: because that team took them out of the playoffs and
Speaker 1: put up forty five points on them in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They go to Jacksonville next week, so you've got, you know,
Speaker 1: sandwich spot. I know it's a Thursday night game, so
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be flat not indicating that, but it's
Speaker 1: just not a good spot. And the final element to it,
Speaker 1: if you go back and look at the teams that
Speaker 1: have given the Steelers the biggest fits our teams with
Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks, and there's nobody more mobile right now been
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. They have put the running game back in
Speaker 1: Cam Newton's arsenal, running the read option. And when he's
Speaker 1: doing that, they're unstoppable. And you've seen it with their
Speaker 1: offensive the points that they've been scoring. Uh, they've scored
Speaker 1: thirty plus in four of their last six games. And
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the key to this game. And if
Speaker 1: you're banged up and you see that big body rolling
Speaker 1: at you in the open field, you want to really
Speaker 1: tackle Cam Newton. I hate to do it, but this
Speaker 1: is a spot for Carolina. I I gotta go with
Speaker 1: the Panthers. Plus the points. Carolina over teaser for me,
Speaker 1: stop me when they start losing, you know, I just
Speaker 1: like for me, I just it's just y'all want to
Speaker 1: bet a t s. I'm just got my legs kicked
Speaker 1: up doing these theaters. Um, you know what's interesting about
Speaker 1: that that I don't know if interesting is the right word,
Speaker 1: but Pittsburgh Baltimore last week because we and I'm sure
Speaker 1: can you do it? On Sports Talk radio I know,
Speaker 1: I do it on visa all the time. Uh. We
Speaker 1: like to talk about coaching gaffs and how stupid some
Speaker 1: of these coaches aren't games Vans Joseph for instance with
Speaker 1: the Broncos last week A a target that we've come
Speaker 1: to more than once. But can I just say, I
Speaker 1: know we don't like to go after John Horrball that often.
Speaker 1: But to thirty three left in that game last week,
Speaker 1: the Ravens are down a touchdown and they have two
Speaker 1: time outs in their pockets, and Horrorball lets the clock
Speaker 1: go all the way down to the two minute warning.
Speaker 1: Waste thirty three seconds of that precious clock. I get
Speaker 1: it when it's down closer to the two minute warning,
Speaker 1: but you can't let thirty three seconds go by at
Speaker 1: that point. I couldn't believe that was happening. Did you
Speaker 1: Marco when you were watching that, did you take note
Speaker 1: of that at all? I absolutely did. In Uh the
Speaker 1: other note of that game that But that's possibly where
Speaker 1: you were gonna going because we've ripped Tomlin so much
Speaker 1: um over the years on some of his being out
Speaker 1: coached in game. The play of the game in that
Speaker 1: game is as much as Pittsburgh dominated that game from
Speaker 1: start to finish, and that was probably the one of
Speaker 1: the more dominating seven point finals that you'll see. But
Speaker 1: Baltimore had a chance to get back in that game
Speaker 1: when Ben got hurt and had to leave. For play
Speaker 1: play of the game. Yeah, the next play, Joshua Dobbs
Speaker 1: from the Shadow, you know, throw him back inside his
Speaker 1: own ten yard line. Tomlin let him let it rip
Speaker 1: and through a twenty yard passed a laser get the
Speaker 1: first down. That was the play of the game in
Speaker 1: my opinion, because if they punt there deep in their
Speaker 1: own territory with all of the momentum that Baltimore had
Speaker 1: at that point in time, it's a totally different ball game.
Speaker 1: What was that? Was it a they were at their
Speaker 1: own five yard line. It was the third quarter? Was
Speaker 1: at early fourth, I can't remember, but it was bad.
Speaker 1: It was late. It was late third, early fourth, I
Speaker 1: don't remember either, but it was it was the point
Speaker 1: where the momentum, the momentum it shifted. Baltimore had just
Speaker 1: score and then you've got Ben, which at the time
Speaker 1: we thought he was dead on the sideline, the way
Speaker 1: he was laying I thought his collar bone was broken.
Speaker 1: I thought he was done for the year. I really did.
Speaker 1: It was just one of those one of those spots
Speaker 1: and he let Joshua Dobbs come in cold without even
Speaker 1: a throw. You know, that's not Tomlin and got to
Speaker 1: give him credit. Twenty two yard completion on I think
Speaker 1: it was a third and twenty was it or something
Speaker 1: like that, or a third and ten or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just amazing play. That was the play of
Speaker 1: the game for sure. Changed the momentum right back to
Speaker 1: the Steelers. They hold on for the touchdown win. Ace.
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on tonight's game, I gotta lean under. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know it's a scary thought um going on there
Speaker 1: only these fine time games, but I do think this
Speaker 1: total is a little bit too high based on these
Speaker 1: two teams. I mean, Caroline has done nothing wrong in
Speaker 1: the last three weeks that I haven't turned the ball
Speaker 1: over one time. I mean, they've been balanced running the
Speaker 1: ball and throwing the football. But I don't think they're
Speaker 1: gonna have that success running against this Pittsburgh defense that
Speaker 1: hasn't allowed a hundred yard rusher since September sixte um
Speaker 1: and for Carolina to have success offensively, they need to
Speaker 1: be too dimensional. We've seen that when they've gotten shut
Speaker 1: down on the run like Washington did do them. They
Speaker 1: lost that game. Um Washington held them in the eighty
Speaker 1: one yards only eighteen rushes. So I think if Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: gives them trouble against the rush, you're not gonna see
Speaker 1: many points scored from them. And I think Pittsburgh is
Speaker 1: gonna grind this game out as well. So at fifty one,
Speaker 1: I think the totals two hind. The line is confusing
Speaker 1: to me, almost makes me want to Carolina because it
Speaker 1: makes no sense. But I think the totals where the
Speaker 1: value is all right. Final two questions, gentlemen, we close
Speaker 1: every show with these two questions, the first of which
Speaker 1: is which of the big favorites is the most likely
Speaker 1: to lose outright. We've done this show for eight years.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure we've had this many choices with this
Speaker 1: many large spreads in one week, so it literally over
Speaker 1: half the schedule qualifies. Here, guess favorite most likely to
Speaker 1: lose out right? New England seven point favorites, maybe six
Speaker 1: and a half on the road, depending on where you're
Speaker 1: shopping on the road at Tennessee, Kansas City sixteen and
Speaker 1: a half. Consensus favorites at home against Arizona the Jets.
Speaker 1: Let's call it six and a half or seven point
Speaker 1: favorite seven points reduced used at home right now at
Speaker 1: home against the Buffalo Bills, Bears seven point favorites at
Speaker 1: home against the Lions. It continues. We're not even counting
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Cincinnati game in this because it doesn't
Speaker 1: qualify Chargers. Ten point favorites on the road at Oakland, Rams,
Speaker 1: ten point favorites at home against the Seahawks, Green Bay,
Speaker 1: ten point favorites at home against Miami, and then Philadelphia
Speaker 1: the Sunday night game. We already talked about seven point
Speaker 1: favorites at home against the Cowboys. Man, that's eight different games.
Speaker 1: Ken of those big favorites, which in your opinion, would
Speaker 1: be the most likely to lose out right? I think
Speaker 1: the Rams could lose again. I know it's crazy. I
Speaker 1: know a lot of people have them number one in
Speaker 1: their our rankings are now maybe New Orleans because of
Speaker 1: that home win. A lot of people have elevated New
Speaker 1: Orleans up there. And you know, the Ram teams darning dynamite,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. But I think we concentrate
Speaker 1: too much on the defensive side of the ball for
Speaker 1: the Rams, you know, based on what's on paper. And
Speaker 1: we know Donald and Sue probably two of the best
Speaker 1: tackles ever play on one team together, so that's legit.
Speaker 1: But you know, Peters to Leave, you know what has
Speaker 1: that done? To Leave has been on the d L
Speaker 1: for a while. Peters has not done anything compared to
Speaker 1: what he's done in his career. So I think we, uh,
Speaker 1: we look at this Rams defense and maybe give them
Speaker 1: too much credit. And we watched teams go up and
Speaker 1: down the field all that on them, and that includes
Speaker 1: at home on that Thursday night, came off the shore week,
Speaker 1: we watched the Vikings go up and down the field
Speaker 1: on the Rams. So I think Seattle based on the
Speaker 1: way they played the Rams the first game, and let's
Speaker 1: give McVeigh credit. You know, fourth and one on his own,
Speaker 1: forty three goes for it, you know, doubt one, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know they get the victory. They seal things. Look,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a divisional game, and it's it's Seattle,
Speaker 1: and it's still Russell Wilson, still Pete Carroll, and there's
Speaker 1: enough there that if they catch the Rams. Thinking, all right,
Speaker 1: well we got in New Orleans is probably our only lass.
Speaker 1: If they're not focused for this game, Seattle is good
Speaker 1: enough at five and four to go in there. Seattle
Speaker 1: needs the game. The Rams don't need the game. They
Speaker 1: think they've got it because of the way they played.
Speaker 1: But a lot of times when you see streaks get
Speaker 1: up over the number of eight, I don't care if
Speaker 1: it's one way or the other. If it's a losing
Speaker 1: streak or a winning streak and that streak ends, you'll
Speaker 1: see that same result happen that next game. I think
Speaker 1: Seattle's got a chance to beat the Rams outright, definitely
Speaker 1: love them. Plus the ten points. It's going down to
Speaker 1: nine and a half. A lot of places, but I
Speaker 1: think Seattle is a great play. Bold choice for that question.
Speaker 1: That's one of the three afternoon games. Seattle at the
Speaker 1: Rams Rams are Kin's choice for that question. Marco, same question.
Speaker 1: I'm on the Rams as well. The Rams here this
Speaker 1: is a spot where you look at you look at
Speaker 1: what they've played this you know, they just come off
Speaker 1: four road games in five weeks and they've got another,
Speaker 1: uh big game coming up, and it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: a technically a home game, but it's a road game.
Speaker 1: It's at Mexico and it's against Kansas City. This is
Speaker 1: a spot Seattle's you know, a conference game, there's you know,
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to look or a division game. You're
Speaker 1: not supposed to look past the division opponent. But when
Speaker 1: you just pay him off. Playing green Bay in New
Speaker 1: Orleans and you've got Kansas City the a f C
Speaker 1: darling up next, this is actually the game that you're
Speaker 1: looking past. Uh In, Seattle has always had a history
Speaker 1: of playing the rams. You know, these games being tight.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and uh say that Seattle was
Speaker 1: live here. They got a shot of pulling it off.
Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised by that. Is that those answers
Speaker 1: interesting compelling reasons, though, Ace don't say, Hey, I just
Speaker 1: want to give the listeners something else. If that's really
Speaker 1: your game, tell me what authentically is your game? No,
Speaker 1: I mean it makes sense obviously Seattle was. I don't
Speaker 1: love anything to be to tell you the truth of
Speaker 1: those big double digit ones. I mean, I was looking
Speaker 1: at Miami against green Bay because green Bay is obviously
Speaker 1: beatable this year they I mean, but at home a
Speaker 1: very dominant team and with the Tannehill situation. Just don't
Speaker 1: have that confidence. But again, I thought they're live. I
Speaker 1: think Seattle's live um as well, believe it or not.
Speaker 1: But I don't know about winning the game out right,
Speaker 1: you know that. But I guess Seattle, um I would
Speaker 1: be the best spot. I mean, they played them tough,
Speaker 1: they know them very well. I would have to look
Speaker 1: at Seattle as well. I mean, like I said, nothing
Speaker 1: really jumped out of those big double digit dogs to
Speaker 1: say this one something. I'm raising the bet the money
Speaker 1: line on UM, but at least matchup wise, I think
Speaker 1: Seattle matches up the best. But you sprink a little
Speaker 1: money line on Tennessee. So wouldn't New England be your
Speaker 1: choice in that question? That's what's already given. Okay, well
Speaker 1: that's the answer. I okay, okay, yeah, that's the main one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to toss in a little bonus. See that's
Speaker 1: I knew how your brain worked on that, all right.
Speaker 1: Before we move on to the final question, then, just
Speaker 1: one thought Buffalo and the Jets. None of you picked
Speaker 1: Buffalo in the Jets. None of you picked the Jets there.
Speaker 1: That line has come down through the seven and Josh
Speaker 1: mcdown now and Sam Donald. Is that a curious move
Speaker 1: to any of you besides me? That's very interesting to
Speaker 1: me because I, for me, Josh McCown, for me, is
Speaker 1: a better quarterback than Sam Donald. Anyway, you look at it, Ken,
Speaker 1: you were saying, yeah it was me. I agreed, Oh
Speaker 1: you agree? Okay, yeah, go ahead. You know what did
Speaker 1: just frankly, with the way the Bills are playing. It's
Speaker 1: I know, they played New England tough, and they dropped
Speaker 1: the eight back and and rushed three, which was smart
Speaker 1: going up against Brady and they know that team inside out.
Speaker 1: But yeah, again it's a divisional game, you know, the
Speaker 1: quarterback switch. But McCown's looking to say, hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm the guy. Know we got the young prodigy and
Speaker 1: then the kids in here. But let me remind you
Speaker 1: that I'm a veteran and I'm going to dissect this
Speaker 1: Bills team. So I could see the Jets taking care
Speaker 1: of business and McCown having a good game. Yeah me too, Um,
Speaker 1: but I thought that was you talking. It was it
Speaker 1: was actually Marco who jumped in. I apologize there. All right,
Speaker 1: final question that gentlemen, we live in a bizarro world
Speaker 1: and you're forced to bet aside on every one of
Speaker 1: these fourteen games on the NFL slate this week. But
Speaker 1: you're allowed one past one game where you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not even betting that with my mother's money. Which
Speaker 1: would that game be? Ken Uh, it's Arizona Kansas City
Speaker 1: just because the amount of points. I totally respect case
Speaker 1: love the way this team plays offensively. Mahomes, the real deal,
Speaker 1: takes advantage of the rules that the quarterback has been given.
Speaker 1: I mean he gets outside the tackle box most of
Speaker 1: the time. And that's what hurts me about the Raiders
Speaker 1: because car doesn't do it. And when you have a
Speaker 1: guy that has mobility, I mean, they make it simple.
Speaker 1: Get outside the tackle box, throw it to the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. You can throw it away, run, you can slide.
Speaker 1: They can't touch you. So they've made it nice and easy.
Speaker 1: Mahomes fits that bill because that's the reckless abandon that
Speaker 1: he used to play with that Texas Tech. But now
Speaker 1: rules are in there to protect him from having that
Speaker 1: reckless abandoned. So he's taken advantage of it. So I
Speaker 1: like Casey a lot, But when you see sixteen and
Speaker 1: sixteen and a half, and I know it was his
Speaker 1: highest seventeen. It just makes you wonder, what about it?
Speaker 1: Back door cover, what about Casey realizing this is a gimme,
Speaker 1: let's take it easy a little bit, and you know
Speaker 1: that mindset. Marco and and Ace are always on top
Speaker 1: of that situational stuff in mindset, and that comes into play,
Speaker 1: and I think it could come into play here. So
Speaker 1: I totally want to stay away from this game. Arizona
Speaker 1: case so true about Derek cart so true. Never outside
Speaker 1: the pocket, it seems like these days anymore. Marco, same question.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the Miami Green Bay one, and
Speaker 1: this is a spot where you've got to wonder the
Speaker 1: mindset of green Bay. I mean, the natural reaction would be,
Speaker 1: you know, green Bay returning home, they got a team
Speaker 1: they can dominate. They you know, dropping way down in
Speaker 1: class after playing the Rams to the Hill two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and then last week go into uh New England, and
Speaker 1: again we talked about misleading final scores. I mean, that
Speaker 1: was a game that you watch the entire game and
Speaker 1: it's not a two score difference. That was a two
Speaker 1: play difference, uh In the one big play being the
Speaker 1: fumble by Green Bay and turns around and makes a
Speaker 1: seven point game the other direct where green Bay was
Speaker 1: going in to take the lead, and then of course
Speaker 1: the gimmick play that's set up the other score with
Speaker 1: Edelman throwing the past Miami. They could get blown out.
Speaker 1: If green Bay does come to play, this is a
Speaker 1: spot where they can get blown out. So do I
Speaker 1: want to late nine and a half ten points with
Speaker 1: green Bay? No? Do I trust Miami and Oswaller with
Speaker 1: that offense that if Aaron Rodgers is on and this
Speaker 1: team is totally focused, can he trade points? No? I'll pass.
Speaker 1: There's better games on a Sunday card. Hey, Gil, real quick.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to interject one thing. I have
Speaker 1: not seen a schedule to where it worked out where
Speaker 1: you have four road games as difficult as green Bay
Speaker 1: was at Rams at New England. Now they get Miami,
Speaker 1: then they're at Seattle Thursday night and at Minnesota. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just brutal. They don't win this game. You could
Speaker 1: kiss any playoff Holks for green Bay, goodbye, brutal. Seattle
Speaker 1: has a brutal stretch right now too. Obviously they played
Speaker 1: green Bay with both teams meet, but yeah, you're right,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just horrible. For Green Bay. Uh,
Speaker 1: and yeah, this is a season killer if they don't
Speaker 1: win this game. By the way, Ryan Tannehill, Uh, not
Speaker 1: coming back anytime soon. Not coming back anytime soon for
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. The leave alone for me, He's got to
Speaker 1: be Jacksonville Indianapolis. I mean, Indies looked goodly both coming
Speaker 1: off of buying these won their last two games. But
Speaker 1: you know, I was against Buffalo in Oakland and Jacksonville
Speaker 1: has just been a huge disappointment. Can't believe this team
Speaker 1: has been favored um so many times this year, you know,
Speaker 1: and they how many wins do they have? All three wins?
Speaker 1: This is the game I pass on for sure, side
Speaker 1: or total, just don't want anything to do with it.
Speaker 1: Indianapolis fourteen to one. You can get them at to
Speaker 1: win the a f C. Seth. I'm just saying, I'm
Speaker 1: two and a half games back. But if they get
Speaker 1: a win here, maybe if anybody's you're right, just maybe
Speaker 1: you never know if Andrew Luck and the Colts can
Speaker 1: get it together here, obviously gotta get by this game here,
Speaker 1: key game in the a f C South. Alright, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: we've done all we can do. Thank you, as always,
Speaker 1: Ace and Marco, thank you gentlemen for always making the time.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. And Ken Thompson Sports X Radio here in Vegas.
Speaker 1: Twenty years on sports talk radio, still going strong. Ken,
Speaker 1: appreciate the time, man, and for stepping in on such
Speaker 1: short notice. Really, thank you man. I really appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1: Let me chime in appreciate you guys. Marco A is
Speaker 1: always a pleasure. Ken Thompson debut here on the on
Speaker 1: the megapod as always, thank you so much for listening.
Speaker 1: Good luck with all your bets this weekend of the
Speaker 1: NFL and in college football,