WEBVTT - Duncan Laurence 

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everyone, welcome the inside the studio and I heart radio.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Jordan runt Dog. But enough about me.

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<v Speaker 1>My guest today became a hero in his Dutch homeland

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<v Speaker 1>when he won the Eurovision Song Contest. In The winning

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<v Speaker 1>entry was his soulful piano ballad Arcade, inspired by a

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<v Speaker 1>devastating personal loss. Almost two years after triumphing at Eurovision,

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<v Speaker 1>the song blew up again thanks to TikTok, and his

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<v Speaker 1>career has gone global ever since. In fact, he made

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<v Speaker 1>his American Network TV debut just minutes before we spoke.

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<v Speaker 1>Last November, he released his debut LP small Town Boy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great acclaim and now we're gonna see what

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<v Speaker 1>he has coming next. I'm so happy to welcome Duncan Lawrence. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for having me. Thanks. Yeah, I'm good. I

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<v Speaker 1>just did the Today Show and we had the whole

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<v Speaker 1>recordings and everything, and it's almost at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day here, so yeah, and I'm fine. Me. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you? Oh? Wow, I'm great. Wait that you had

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<v Speaker 1>a much more exciting day than me. How how everything go?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you right now? Are you in the actually? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a big time difference here. So I had

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<v Speaker 1>my whole day already done, and it's just it was

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<v Speaker 1>such an amazing day to be able to record for

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<v Speaker 1>a US TV for the first time. It was my

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<v Speaker 1>first performance ever and I had a great time doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited. Oh that's awesome out Congratulations, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>so many things congratulate you for. I mean just the

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<v Speaker 1>success of Arcade. It's amazing. It must be strange for

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<v Speaker 1>you in a way because the song wins Eurovision back

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<v Speaker 1>in When did you realize it was blowing up all

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<v Speaker 1>over again? That was crazy. It was actually a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of months ago. I got this message from my manager

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<v Speaker 1>and he was saying, I think you should have a

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<v Speaker 1>look at what's happening on TikTok because ourcade is blowing up.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of Harry Potter fans were using the

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<v Speaker 1>song to recreate scenes from the movies to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>make Malfoy in Hermione, which are like sworn enemies and

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<v Speaker 1>the movies fall in love with each other, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they used loving You was Losing Game under that as

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<v Speaker 1>a tech ran. So it was so fun to watch that.

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<v Speaker 1>But ever to just spread so so far, like it

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<v Speaker 1>reached other digital platforms and just like social media and

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<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, it really has blown up. Can you tell

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<v Speaker 1>me a little bit about where the song came from

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<v Speaker 1>for you, what inspired it? I wrote Arcade actually a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago, um, when I was studying at

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<v Speaker 1>the Rock Academy, and I always wrote songs because I

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<v Speaker 1>always tried to turn something negative into something positive by

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<v Speaker 1>taking a negative story and turning it to a song.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was bullied when I was younger a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>So I took all that negativity home and I locked

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<v Speaker 1>myself up in my room and created songs out of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But on this particular day, a friend of the family

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<v Speaker 1>passed away and she was madly in love with the

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<v Speaker 1>love of her life, but they had split up a

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<v Speaker 1>few years before, unfortunately, and she kept waiting for him

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<v Speaker 1>to say goodbye. She kept staring at the door while

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<v Speaker 1>she was passing away. So that was such a tragic

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<v Speaker 1>story to me that I was like, if I can

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<v Speaker 1>turn all that negativity from being bullied and everything into songs,

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<v Speaker 1>that I can also turn this unanswered love into a song.

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<v Speaker 1>And years later I did, and I kind of combined

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<v Speaker 1>my story as a small time boy going to a

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<v Speaker 1>big city chasing my dreams with her story and that's

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<v Speaker 1>how Arcade came to be. How does it feel for

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<v Speaker 1>you knowing that that this song that came from such

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<v Speaker 1>a personal private place for you and your family, friend

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<v Speaker 1>and your childhood bedroom is now resonating with literally millions

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<v Speaker 1>of people look across the globe. How does that feel?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that like for you? That's so crazy because

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<v Speaker 1>I did your Vision the Your Vision Song contest with

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<v Speaker 1>this song, so I kind of thought like, well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>had his life and it's good and it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>served a great purpose, I mean, like we want. But

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<v Speaker 1>now looking at Arcade and seeing where it's going and

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<v Speaker 1>how it's growing every single day, it's just insane to watch,

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<v Speaker 1>especially as this small town boy from this tiniest country,

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<v Speaker 1>the Netherlands, it's just so to see that this is

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<v Speaker 1>possible and that if you work hard and you keep

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<v Speaker 1>dreaming and you keep focusing on what you do. And

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<v Speaker 1>with me, it was putting music first always. You you

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<v Speaker 1>can go somewhere, You can go places, even if it's quarantine,

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<v Speaker 1>you can still you know, music can travel without boundaries,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's so cool and especially in these times, to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to connect with people since we can tour

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<v Speaker 1>or gig or go anywhere you mentioned quarantine. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>been been feeling productive and staying productive during during lockdown?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you've been writing a lot? Yes, I've been writing constantly.

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<v Speaker 1>I've lived together with my fiance and he's a songwriter too,

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<v Speaker 1>so we write every single day. Like every time I

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<v Speaker 1>come downstairs, I hear him playing the piano or the guitar,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, hear him saying or it's the

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<v Speaker 1>other way around. We we write constantly, and I actually

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<v Speaker 1>finished my first album during lockdown. That's gonna be such

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<v Speaker 1>a great way to bond I mean, to have that

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<v Speaker 1>connection with somebody, to make music with them. What were

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<v Speaker 1>you Were you friends before and then did you start

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<v Speaker 1>making music or did you start making music? We met

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<v Speaker 1>each other in l A last year, right before lockdown,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I took the last plane possible back from

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<v Speaker 1>the Netherlands to l A when lockdown was introduced, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I spent my days at his place in Los

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles and that's how we were like, well, we're both songwriters,

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<v Speaker 1>let's try to write a song. And it was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations one of the one of the few good things

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<v Speaker 1>that come up. I'm so so happy for you. But yeah, yeah, luckily. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned when you first started writing music, taking sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the pain of school and adolescents that so many

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<v Speaker 1>people unfortunately go through, and wanting to make something beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. What were some people that that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of pointed you in that direction? Did you have any

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<v Speaker 1>any influences at that age, like people musicians you were

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<v Speaker 1>listening to, or people in your life, to teachers or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. Definitely, Like I had a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>artists that I was like listening NonStop to. One of

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<v Speaker 1>them was Nirvana. I'm always I've always been drawn to

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt Cobain's story and just his mentality, this way of songwriting,

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<v Speaker 1>and just it was so grunge, and I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>Amy Winehouse, which to me was kind of the grungy

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<v Speaker 1>version of soul, kind of London grungy version of soul.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought she was amazing and such a great artist,

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<v Speaker 1>but such a tragic story too. I'm always I've always

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<v Speaker 1>been drawn to tragic stories, but also snow Patrol YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>My father used to listen to a lot of YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandparents used to listen to a lot of Elvis Presley,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's definitely one of my heroes. And yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>list goes on and on. Fleetwood mag I can talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you about music for hours. I love USIC hearing

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<v Speaker 1>your voice. It's so motive and passionate. Did you do

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<v Speaker 1>any theater as a kid, like musical theater. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to do theater, but I couldn't dance. I could act,

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<v Speaker 1>but I couldn't dance. Like I was like a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a like a chubby Harry Potter, with like

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<v Speaker 1>room between my teeth and like a lot of freckles,

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<v Speaker 1>and the only thing that was missing was here. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was. You know, maybe that was the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I was bullied a lot too, because I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dressed a little weird and I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>acted a little weird. I made music. I locked myself

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<v Speaker 1>up in my room to write songs. So thinking back,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, maybe you isolated yourself a lot. You

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<v Speaker 1>were just yourself exactly. That's what it was. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really happy that I did actually, and that I sticked

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<v Speaker 1>to what I knew and believed in. But at this

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<v Speaker 1>certain age, I think because I locked myself up so much,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom decided me to put me on like theater class,

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<v Speaker 1>and I sucked at dancing and like all those things,

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<v Speaker 1>but I liked acting, but above all, I loved music.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it like for me? Witting your vision must

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<v Speaker 1>have just been such a life changing experience that I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot even imagine. How did your life change of that?

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<v Speaker 1>My life changed like completely, like one d degrees. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just a turn, like it was so crazy because

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<v Speaker 1>before that, I was a songwriter and I wrote songs

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<v Speaker 1>for others, and I was just kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>collecting my my own songs, trying to create a sound,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to create stories that I wanted to put out

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<v Speaker 1>into the world, and Arcade has always been on my

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<v Speaker 1>mind as the first single I wanted to put out.

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<v Speaker 1>But on a specific day, I got a call from

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<v Speaker 1>my old voice coach because I did the voice when

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<v Speaker 1>I was like seventeen, and she said, hey, you added

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<v Speaker 1>this song Arcade to the draw box that we still share.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you want me to listen to it? And I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, that's why I put it in a drawbox.

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<v Speaker 1>And she listened to it and she said, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we should send this to your vision and I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>good look, because only famous people make it to your

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<v Speaker 1>a vision like it would be a dream come true,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think I'll ever make it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>she said, I think you'll make it. As she was right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how it happened. Wow, that is incredible. What

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<v Speaker 1>is it about that song that you feel makes it

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<v Speaker 1>resonate with so many people? Is there? Can you articulate? Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just just one of those things one of

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<v Speaker 1>those magic things? That's always the most difficult question people

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<v Speaker 1>ask me, because I always believe that, like the power

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<v Speaker 1>of a song is because of the listeners, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>because like the biggest part is because of the listeners

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<v Speaker 1>the way they interpreted it. So I wish I could just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, watch the listeners heads, like have a look

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<v Speaker 1>inside their hats to know what it is, because that

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<v Speaker 1>would reveal a great secret I think in songwriting for me,

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<v Speaker 1>very helpful. But I hope it's just the story that

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<v Speaker 1>is in there and the story that I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>tell in respect to my friend who passed away, And

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that that, you know, resonates through that song

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<v Speaker 1>and that people get inspired and maybe feel like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going through the same things. And if that small boy,

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<v Speaker 1>the small town boy is doing it and he's killing

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<v Speaker 1>it and he's chasing his streams, then I can do

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<v Speaker 1>it too, even though I have a heartbreak right now

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<v Speaker 1>or I'm going through this heart face of life. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that's what they connect to and that's why,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe this personal story that is in there

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<v Speaker 1>becomes something universal. Your album called small Town Boy, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many great songs on. One of my favorites, a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of sort of the inverse of Arcade in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ways, Sleeping on the Phone, which is, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a song that rings true for anyone who's ever been

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<v Speaker 1>in a long distance relationship. Can you can tell me

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<v Speaker 1>a little more about that, Yeah, Sleeping on the Phone

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<v Speaker 1>is my favorite too. I love that trick and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's because that was actually the first trick I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>with Jordans, my fiance. That was the like what I

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<v Speaker 1>just told you, like when we were in l A

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<v Speaker 1>and I traveled with the last plane to the US

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<v Speaker 1>right before a lockdown hit. We wrote this song because

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<v Speaker 1>we knew I was going to travel back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Netherlands because I had to do the an alternative show

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<v Speaker 1>for your Vision, So it was kind of it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>your vision twenty twenty, but they did this alternative life

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<v Speaker 1>show and we knew we got we're going to miss

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<v Speaker 1>each other. So we wrote this song together kind of

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<v Speaker 1>as a reminder to each other that we've we've always

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<v Speaker 1>got each other's back and we're always there for each

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<v Speaker 1>other no matter the time difference or what time it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just talk until we're sleeping on the phone. And

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<v Speaker 1>it really helped, I think both of us through through

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<v Speaker 1>that quarantine lockdown time without each other, and it's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really incredible. I can't mean, I'm somebody who who

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<v Speaker 1>loves music with with all their heart, but it's never

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<v Speaker 1>been able to actually write a song. So whenever I

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<v Speaker 1>talk to people about how they write, to me, it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like it just sounds like sorcery. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>understand it when when when you in Jordan are writing together,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, do you feel that you get to know

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<v Speaker 1>each other on a deeper level? I mean that there

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<v Speaker 1>ever times when you've had like a disagreement earlier and

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<v Speaker 1>somehow you end up working it out through the songwriting session.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't recall that, but I do think, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we definitely get to know each other more and more, especially,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because we're so open to each other and

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to write songs, because you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be if you want to write an honest story and

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<v Speaker 1>in the shape of a song, you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>open and tell everything. So yeah, we talked about everything,

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<v Speaker 1>even previous relationships and you know, things that hurt us,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of things that made us happy, or just those

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<v Speaker 1>small daily things that we're both kind of looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to write songs. It's basically we got to know each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the best through writing songs with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>That was so wonderful. What is next for you? I

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<v Speaker 1>know you just released your album in the fall. What

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<v Speaker 1>are you working on now? I'm working on a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of new music in the studio NonStop. I'm so happy

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<v Speaker 1>we can do that, that we're able to just work

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<v Speaker 1>and go to the studio and record things and write

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<v Speaker 1>new music. So yeah, that's what we're constantly doing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>constantly moving back and forth from our house to the

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<v Speaker 1>studio and to our house to the studio and just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, writing a lot of new songs and recording

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of new things which are actually coming

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<v Speaker 1>out this year. Even so it's all coming very soon.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so great. You can be back in the studio

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<v Speaker 1>now too. I know that, Yeah, home studio situation isn't

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<v Speaker 1>always the same thing from what I hear. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's been wonderful to have some time at home,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and everyone kind of thought that at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think now everyone is kind of at that

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<v Speaker 1>point where we're like, Okay, all is this going to take?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I really just want to have my normal life back.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's all for a good reason, of course. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>being able just to be in a room with instruments

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<v Speaker 1>and just somewhere else than these four white walls is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you Obviously, the last year has been tough

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone for so many different reasons. What what did

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<v Speaker 1>you do? Is just to stay grounded when you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to just sort of escape and feel good for a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Did you do yoga? Did you run? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you watch a bunch of things on Netflix? What did

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<v Speaker 1>you like to do to kind of just just zone

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<v Speaker 1>out for a little while. I actually started producing myself,

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<v Speaker 1>so I produced Sleeping on the Phone for example, myself

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<v Speaker 1>during lockdown, and I always kind of looked over the

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<v Speaker 1>shoulders of other producers kind of you know, looked what

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<v Speaker 1>they were doing, and I knew kind of how to

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<v Speaker 1>do things, but I had to learn a lot before

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<v Speaker 1>I could actually produce my own whole track myself. But

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I did it, and I'm so happy with it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I spend a lot of time in quarantine learning

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<v Speaker 1>how to make sounds, produce sounds, you know, get the

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<v Speaker 1>right e Q, everything, all the little producer details. And

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<v Speaker 1>I started picking up the guitar again, and I started

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<v Speaker 1>going to the like there's a gym here that just

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<v Speaker 1>trains outside, which is amazing because that's allowed again. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just focusing on my mind my body, because there

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<v Speaker 1>were times in Lockdown where I was like so anxious

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<v Speaker 1>about what was going to happen and what what was

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen with the world and how we were

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<v Speaker 1>going to get through this and stuff. It's just, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been it's been a hard time, but I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>that it kind of looks like there's this light at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of it all and things are getting better.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean that it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like you've had an incredibly productive time. I mean, most

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<v Speaker 1>people I know, it's like, all right, I taught myself

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<v Speaker 1>to make banana bread. That's it. You you learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to that's amazing. So I wish I would have learned

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<v Speaker 1>how to make banana bread because my cooking skills are horrible,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I cannot even bake a bake an act like

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's horrible. I mean, banana bread is about the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that I actually can make now, So no,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry, You're not alone. I screwed it up, like

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<v Speaker 1>I screwed it up a bunch of times where the

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<v Speaker 1>banana bread was like kick style, like it was crunchy

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<v Speaker 1>and so hard that you can't even like take a

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<v Speaker 1>bite off this. So no, I would never, never, never

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<v Speaker 1>tried to bait that again. Gosh, that's that's so exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a great year ahead of you. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>ask I'm sure you get ask us all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Any dream collaborators, people you you really want to work with.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of dream collaborators, but one person

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<v Speaker 1>that's always been on the top of my list is

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<v Speaker 1>Noah Cirus. I hope one day we can write something

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<v Speaker 1>together because I love love her. Miley sirius to I've

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<v Speaker 1>been a big fan ever since I was Young. What

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<v Speaker 1>I love about Noah Starrs is that she has such

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<v Speaker 1>a singer songwrite if vibe over her, but still is

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<v Speaker 1>so poppy and really combines those three worlds almost of pop,

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<v Speaker 1>country and singer songwriter music, and it's just so magical

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<v Speaker 1>the way she does that and the way she looks

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<v Speaker 1>and everything about her is just so magical. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would be honored to one day work together with her,

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<v Speaker 1>if if one day that is possible. Other collapse are

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<v Speaker 1>like Troy Syvan, same like, same feeling I have for Noah,

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<v Speaker 1>same for him. He's incredible. Yeah, So who know who else?

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<v Speaker 1>Ellie X, Sam Smith. The list goes on and on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's manifest put it out there, Visualize Smith, Noah's ires

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<v Speaker 1>Alley Accident, the whole list. Look And it's been so

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<v Speaker 1>great talking you, my my, my last question, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been the question that I've been asking everybody I've been

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<v Speaker 1>speaking to the last year, and hopefully don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>ask it much longer. If you could snap your fingers

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<v Speaker 1>and have everything go back to normal, whatever your definition

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<v Speaker 1>of normal is, call it, call it what would be

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing that you would do? Places you travel, people,

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<v Speaker 1>you hug, things, you go go out to a restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>and eat. Yeah, I think I would have this huge

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<v Speaker 1>barbecue in the backyard with my whole family and friends

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<v Speaker 1>and just everyone has to hug each other before they

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<v Speaker 1>come in. Everyone has to like kiss each other three

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<v Speaker 1>times on the cheeks, because we do that here in Holland.

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<v Speaker 1>Week he took three times and just like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>share love, touch each other like whenever you want, stay

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<v Speaker 1>close to each other, eat nice food, to have nice music, drinks.

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<v Speaker 1>Very European if you asked me to do. But it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be my back to normal dream. And another

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<v Speaker 1>dream would be just to travel again and to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to perform again, but also to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>visit l A America to meet my my family that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just everything. I want it all. I want

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<v Speaker 1>everything to be normal again. Let's manifest that to I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's I think it's on its way. I think

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<v Speaker 1>so too. Thank you so much for taking the time

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<v Speaker 1>of day. It's been been such Thank you, Thank you

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