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Speaker 2: the one and only Bucky Brooks. Oh fuck, how are you?

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Speaker 2: It's that time again?

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Speaker 1: It is that time again. How you doing, Andy?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great? And you know I have learned so

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Speaker 2: much from you. I'm not trying to suck up. I

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Speaker 2: really mean that. And finally, after watching some college football yesterday,

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Speaker 2: what I learned is that it's not so much personnel,

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Speaker 2: which is important, It's all about coaching. I look at

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Speaker 2: the Indiana team to see what they've done. They changed coaches,

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Speaker 2: the guys is unreal. They just gave him like an

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Speaker 2: eight year deal for sixty four million. All right. I

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Speaker 2: look at the Arizona State they turned it around with

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Speaker 2: and like, you know, everything just kind of like exploded yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Did you see him on team? It was embarrassing. Last

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Speaker 2: week we talked about the athletic director of Utah who

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Speaker 2: news conference. He got fined forty grand. He made a

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Speaker 2: fool out of himself, embarrassed to school. I have to

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Speaker 2: say the same thing for Brian Kelly. He embarrassed himself,

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Speaker 2: embarrassed LSU, and I think right now he has one

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Speaker 2: foot in the grave. You know, LSU loses yesterday, but

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Speaker 2: he got into it on TV, caught on camera screaming

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if you've ever seen that

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's healthy. And it just did look good.

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Speaker 2: You just felt uncomfortable. You felt dirty watching that, didn't you, Buck.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you do.

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Speaker 3: But now backstory, you have to remember Brian Kelly that

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Speaker 3: we're seeing at LSU is the Brian Kelly that kind

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Speaker 3: when he was at Cincinnati, he would browbeat players like

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Speaker 3: But the pressure, the stress, I would say, the mounting

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Speaker 1: It turned around.

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Speaker 3: At LSU, it came out, and the Brian Kelly that

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Speaker 3: So the fact that he's back in for Ernest tells

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Speaker 2: And I think you's up pressure. I think there's sure

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Speaker 2: think the alums right now. They gave him a big deal,

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Speaker 2: you know. And I was saying, I was told to

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Speaker 2: you know, sometimes the greened pastures aren't the best thing.

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Speaker 2: He hadn't made. He had it made in Cincinnati. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think I think he's the all time Wednsley. Theer

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Speaker 2: He did to know doubt about that. But after that

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Speaker 1: No, I mean probably not. But I mean he changed

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Speaker 3: Come after him hard because they were trying to get

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Speaker 3: But what he's finding out, like a lot of people

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Speaker 1: It's the gauntlet is the number of teams.

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Speaker 3: Just to back to back to back to back heavyweight

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Speaker 1: A it means a little more.

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Speaker 3: But in that region of the country and the SEC

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Speaker 1: Like there's football season and.

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Speaker 3: Then there's recruiting season, but there's no offseason when it

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Speaker 3: The weight of kind of carrier program twenty four to seven,

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Speaker 2: Right, And I'll go one step further. Look the next

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Speaker 2: be my first, there's no doubt about that. But I

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. This season is gone right now,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a split.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there's some cracks along that roster, not only

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Speaker 3: to expectations. LSU has become a program where they vy

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Speaker 3: they fall short, Yeah, the pressure escalates and Brian Kelly

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Speaker 2: Good. Let him feel the pressure. I mean, he created it.

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Speaker 2: Then he's gonna get the pressure. Now. Well, I said,

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Speaker 2: but more than that, Travis Hunter. Right now, if he

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Speaker 2: And as you notice, and maybe I'm just the only

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Speaker 2: you know, isn't that true? I Mean he was talking

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they haven't played their basketball. I would

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Speaker 1: Be frank like, they didn't bring their a game. Defense. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Offense, it was a little sluggish in terms of just

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Speaker 3: And if they're going to be the team that they

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Speaker 3: But it's hard to win games consistently in college. The

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Speaker 3: he speaks volumes to him. It speaks volumes about the

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Speaker 3: the second year is really impressive, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to Travis Hunter for a second. Ten

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Speaker 2: games played, they're eight and two. He has over nine

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Speaker 2: hundred old purposely odys. He has ten touchdowns, He's got

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Speaker 2: fumble against Baylor way back when. And now the major

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Speaker 2: question is kind of defensive back win the Heisman because

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Speaker 2: usually it's a quarterback trophy. Kind of defensive back? Can

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Speaker 2: he win the Heisman Trophy? Certainly? I think he deserves

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Speaker 2: it really now. If the team had a losing record

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Speaker 2: don't know. They've got a winning record and he's got

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Speaker 2: those big time numbers. They're gonna go to the championship game,

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Speaker 2: probably in the Big twelve. I think he's the Heisman

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think the thing that helps him is

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Speaker 2: Surprised way that Georgia rolled over Tennessee. I saw the

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Speaker 3: Well, this gives you a week to kind of reset,

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Speaker 2: they both are averaging six yards to carry. And it's

436
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,760
Speaker 2: kind of crazy when you think about it, that we're

437
00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,200
Speaker 2: talking about two possible running backs, Derrick Henry and Saquon

438
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,240
Speaker 2: Barkley is MVP and these guys are kind of bounced

439
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,680
Speaker 2: from their original team anyway from a year ago. Think

440
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,359
Speaker 2: about that. So, is there a chance in your heart

441
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 2: of hearts that sae Kwon Barkley will be the MVP

442
00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:39,760
Speaker 2: this year?

443
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 1: Uh?

444
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,040
Speaker 3: MVP tough because it be tough to supplant Lamar Jackson.

445
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,199
Speaker 3: But I think what he can do is finish as

446
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 3: the offensive Player of the Year. If anything, what Sakwon

447
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 3: Barkley has done is proved that. Look, his value was

448
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 3: never fully appreciated in New York and with the Giants

449
00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 3: falling apart and the Eagles flourishing with him as the

450
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 3: centerpiece of their offense, there's no doubt that he was

451
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 3: a multifaceted.

452
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,679
Speaker 1: Player who needed to be treated as such.

453
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,439
Speaker 3: And I know people talk about the money and the

454
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 3: contract and running back money is different than quarterback money,

455
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 3: but the Giant should have made it known that Saquon

456
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 3: Barkley was the best player.

457
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 1: On their team.

458
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 3: When they didn't, it was a level of disrespect that

459
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,400
Speaker 3: forced him to leave and he.

460
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 1: Ended up in Philadelphia.

461
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 3: In Philadelphia, he's been a godsend because what he does is,

462
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 3: he gives them a running back that can run inside

463
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,120
Speaker 3: and outside, he can catch it out of the backfield,

464
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,160
Speaker 3: has big playability and if you're a team that pays

465
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 3: too much attention to the weapons that they have on

466
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 3: the outside, aj Brown, Davonte Smith, Saquon Barky can hurt you.

467
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,439
Speaker 3: And it has made their offense nearly impossible to defend.

468
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,439
Speaker 3: And as Kellen Moore gets more comfortable putting together the

469
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 3: pieces of this offense with Saquan as a centerpiece and

470
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 3: maximizing Jalen Hurts his skills as a runner and thrower.

471
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 3: This team is tough, and this team is for all

472
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 3: the stuff that we say about Nick Sirianni, this team

473
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 3: is eight and two and rolling.

474
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. You know, you mentioned something

475
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 2: over there. I just picked up on that. You talk

476
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 2: about how tough their offense is. And certainly they got

477
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,120
Speaker 2: their running back and they got two great receivers right there,

478
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 2: and they're doing well, and the offense is tough to stop.

479
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 2: Compare their offense, if you will, to the Baltimore Ravens,

480
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 2: because everybody raves about that offense because you don't know

481
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 2: if Lamar is gonna pass and he's developed himself into

482
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 2: a decent passer right now, and he's gonna run the football.

483
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 2: And they got Derrick Henry and they got some receivers

484
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 2: over there. But I think that the Eagles offense is

485
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 2: a lot more dangerous than the Baltimore Ravens offense.

486
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Speaker 1: I would say they both are dangerous different ways.

487
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 3: Like the Ravens offense is dangerous because you have Derrick

488
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 3: Henry the sledgehammer, and then it's just the look man,

489
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 3: the unbelievable talents that Lamar Jackson brings to the table

490
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 3: as a runner and a thrower. He just has different gears,

491
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 3: different levels to his game, and he makes you defend

492
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 3: the entire field horizontally, vertically as a thrower and also

493
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 3: as a runner. So it's it's tough, and then they

494
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 3: get new weapons on the outside.

495
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: I would say that the.

496
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 3: Difference between the two would be the Eagles wide receivers

497
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 3: I think you can say are a notch above what

498
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens have, and Derrick Camry and Saquon Barkley.

499
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 3: You push, and then if it comes to the quarterback,

500
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson over Jayden Hurt, so they end up being even.

501
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 3: It's just a matter of what do you value more

502
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 3: when it comes down to breaking their personnel.

503
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 2: Okay, let's switch from offense to defense right now, because

504
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 2: you mentioned the Ravens. The Ravens are playing at the

505
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,120
Speaker 2: Steelers today and that's could be a heck of a game,

506
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 2: maybe one of the best games on the DHAKA today Baltimore,

507
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 2: and they have pass defense is ranked less in the NFL.

508
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 2: The Ravens, by the way, they started the season zero

509
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 2: to two, but in six of the last dight games

510
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 2: they scored thirty more points. So we talk about their offense,

511
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 2: they could score There's no doubt about that. As for

512
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: the Steelers, let's talk about Russell Wilson. We going about MVPs.

513
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 2: This guy's gonna definitely get the comeback Player of the Year.

514
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: I think three wins in his first three starts. I

515
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 2: don't think he's in the MVP mix, but I think,

516
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,400
Speaker 2: as you see, it could be the offense to play

517
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 2: or combat player of the year. So the Steelers need

518
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: to stop the run. And Lamar is owned three against

519
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 2: the Steelers. I don't know what that means. They're making

520
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 2: a big deal about that, you know, And I saw

521
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: Lamar on TV that had a news company. When he

522
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 2: met the media on Wednesday prior to the game. I mean,

523
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 2: he probably well, I guess he knows, he knows he's

524
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: owned three against it. But you know that's not a

525
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 2: fact that these are just storylines that media people like you.

526
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 2: I guess they just want to ride about and talk about.

527
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 2: I don't think it means anything. You get on the field,

528
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 2: you don't think about what we can't win because I'm

529
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 2: owing three against them. It doesn't mean that much. I

530
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: know when Baltimore got to the players, they say that

531
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: Lamar can't win on the big stage. It doesn't work

532
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: that way, does it. It really doesn't. Does nothing that's

533
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 2: going to hold you back. I mean, these are just

534
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: little nuggets of storylines that people in media use to

535
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 2: kind of finish their stories. That's basically what it is.

536
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean anything. Once you put the uniform on

537
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: a gun on the field.

538
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean anything.

539
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 3: But if you haven't beaten the team in a long time,

540
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 3: it's a it's still like an issue because you haven't

541
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 3: cracked the code.

542
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson talked about how he hasn't.

543
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: He still remembers a team that used to give him

544
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 3: problems back in the day when he was playing youth ball.

545
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: I think it may have been the Fort Lauderdale Vikings.

546
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 3: And he talked about how he still hates him, wouldn't

547
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 3: let his kids play for them. Uh so, Uh, there

548
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 3: is something too when you can't when you haven't kind

549
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 3: of cracked the code on an opponent. But at the

550
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 3: end of the day, you are right when they square

551
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 3: up to play and play like all their history doesn't

552
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 3: come with you, but it does give the opponent a

553
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 3: lot of confidence knowing that they've done some things that

554
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 3: have really knocked you off your game and you haven't

555
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 3: been able to figure it out.

556
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: Well, the Steelers have to stop the run. That's basically

557
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: what they got to do today. And the Ravens, as

558
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 2: we mentioned, they're like they're a tough offense that they'll

559
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 2: be your running and they'll be your passing. So they

560
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 2: got everything going for them. But I just I got

561
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: that feeling today that there's the Steelers will win this game.

562
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a close games, to be a great games,

563
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: be one of those games you don't want to miss.

564
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 2: I really believe it's gonna be probably the best game

565
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: on TV today. But there's something about the Pittsburgh Steelers

566
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: and will prove today that they're they're for real. I

567
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 2: think there's been some doubts about the Steelers, and look,

568
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 2: they haven't played a division opponent until today, which is amazing.

569
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 2: What's about November seventeenth, they haven't played anybody within the division.

570
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: So this is a huge game. It really is for

571
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers, and they'll prove to the world today

572
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 2: that they're for real. I know one expected the Pittsburgh

573
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 2: Steelers to be seven and two after nine games. And

574
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: I'll give a lot of credit to Mike Tomlin. He's

575
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: one hell of a coach. He really is.

576
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: He is a great coach. And he's a great coach because.

577
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 3: He is able to take what he has, put it

578
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 3: together and put it together in a way where it

579
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 3: works and it complimences one another.

580
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: Meaning he's able.

581
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: To assess his offense, defense, special teams, and put together

582
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 3: game plans that allow them to kind of protect themselves

583
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 3: in terms of not exposing their deficiencies. And because he

584
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: made the move, which was controversial at the time, to

585
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 3: put Russell Wilson in over justin fields, what he was

586
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 3: able to do is expand the offense, add more of

587
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 3: a vertical element, big play element to the passing game,

588
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 3: create more room for the running game because now the

589
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: defense has the respect to pass, and then it becomes

590
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 3: about defense, special teams and everything compliment in it.

591
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: So give him credit.

592
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 3: It has been fun to watch the Stealers evolve under his.

593
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: Direction and their team to be feared. And if they're

594
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: able to.

595
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 3: Get this win against the Ravens, now you really got

596
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 3: to start talking about them being a legitimate contender.

597
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: Okay, and look, I'm guilty of doing this right now,

598
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 2: but I'm going to lay it on the line. Last year,

599
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: the Ravens lost both games to the Steelers. All right,

600
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 2: whatever that means, and I'm sure that's in the minds

601
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 2: of some on those Baltimore Ravens today as they go

602
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh. But the Ravens scored something like twenty total

603
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 2: points and they lost both games against the Steelers last year.

604
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: They have to prove themselves against the team that won

605
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: seven of the last eight games when these two teams

606
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: played against one another. That means something. The Pittsburgh Steels

607
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 2: have dominated over the Baltimore Ravens doesn't mean much today

608
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 2: going into the game. I'm not so sure. I don't know.

609
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: I mean to some people that might. I mean, that

610
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: may be the motivation that gets them over the hump,

611
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 2: and that may be the pregame speech. I mean, you've

612
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 2: been in locker rooms. Do these coaches go crazy with

613
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: pregame speeches and getting them hyped up like on the

614
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: college level, or they just give them a game plan

615
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: and say here's what we gotta do.

616
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 3: No, you just kind of give them a game plan

617
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: and what they're gonna do, because like, look, the emotion.

618
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: Of a pregame speech is done after five minutes.

619
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: Like you have to play on execution, and so yeah,

620
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: you want the emotion to be to a certain point,

621
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 3: but it's about execution. And you know, no pregame speed

622
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 3: is going to give you enough gas to last the

623
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: full sixty minutes. It comes down, it's about execution. And

624
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: so it's one of those things you got to get

625
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: your guys to play well. You got to get them

626
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: to understand the moment and to make the critical plays

627
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: when they're did to be made. Is that's what big

628
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: games are.

629
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: About, right And I tell you what the question mark

630
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: of the Pittsburgh Steels right now, is the running back

631
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: nw J Harris against the Washington Commanders two point five

632
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 2: yards per attempt a total of fifty three yards. Get

633
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: him going. They got to get him going. Got that

634
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: running game going, that's what you need. So we'll see

635
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: what happens there. I'm going to move along now to

636
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: your team, the Jaguars against the Lions in Detroit today.

637
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: And obviously it looks like a mismatch. But the missing

638
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: and I just said something about a guy missing an action,

639
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: it's a wide receiver, Gabe Davis. What happened to? I

640
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: mean you would know what happened to? Gave Davis four

641
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: targets one reception last week and two catches for just

642
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: thirty two yards in their last three games. Got to

643
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: get this guy going. What's happened? This guy is mia

644
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: wide receiver gave Davis for Jacksonville.

645
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 3: I mean this situation where you know, you get a

646
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: backup quarterback in in Matt Jones, who's playing over t

647
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, and you're trying to get the offense going.

648
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: And so it's the combination things. When you have a

649
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: backup quarterback in is he protected? What does he see?

650
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: How comfortable is he? And how confident is he at

651
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: the end of the day to let the ball go.

652
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Speaker 3: For whatever reason, since Gave Davis has arrived, he just

653
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: hasn't been able to click or connect with either quarterback

654
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence or Mac Jones. And some of them may

655
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: be the quarterback. Some of that is on him, but

656
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 3: it's certainly been a big disappointment. There were expectations that

657
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: he was going to come in and be a nice, solid,

658
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: big play number two receiver who would really open up

659
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: this offense, and that hasn't happened.

660
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Speaker 1: Some of it has been injuries.

661
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Speaker 3: Or whatever, but I would say one of the bigger

662
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Speaker 3: disappointments has been watching Gave Davis not give them what

663
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Speaker 3: they need on the.

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Speaker 2: Perimeter right now. I'll give you credit right now because

665
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: I know that's your team all right. Last week, I

666
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: would say they hung with the Vikings. It was a

667
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: it was a tough game. It was turnovers that killed them.

668
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: They lost in Minnesota twelve to seven last week, and

669
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: they were with them. If they could hang today with

670
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: the Lions, they'll give them a game. But the key

671
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: right now, as you Matt Jones turnovers. He turned the

672
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: ball over three times last week against the Vikings ball control,

673
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: don't turn the ball over. You can hang with them. Obviously,

674
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: de Troits are better team. I think Detroit will win,

675
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: but you don't want to get blown out. That's the

676
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Speaker 2: key there.

677
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the main thing. You just want to

678
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: hang with them. You want to play, you want to

679
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: keep competing, and I think situation is critical for everybody.

680
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: There's a lot of losing that has taken place over

681
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Speaker 3: the last year. You think about the way the team

682
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: collapsed at the end of the year, the way that

683
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: they started this year is certainly been less than stellar

684
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: and less than expectations. But against the Lions you got

685
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 3: to put your big boy pants on and compete. And

686
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: for the Lions, this is one where you don't want

687
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: to get complacent or lack of days ago taking on

688
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: an opponent that's struggling. If anything, they should turn up

689
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: the heat, turner the pressure, and in the first quarter

690
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: try to really knock the Jaguars out. The Jaguars have

691
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: lost three close games and their confidence is probably teetering

692
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: on the brink. If you're the Lions, you don't want

693
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 3: to give them any reason to feel like they can

694
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: play and win.

695
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Speaker 1: So the first quarter be everything.

696
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Speaker 3: You know a lot about this team, both teams, how

697
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Speaker 3: they perform in the first quarter of this game.

698
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: Now, how surprised were you that the Dolphins beat up

699
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: on the Rams last week twenty three to fifteen. But

700
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Speaker 2: if I remember correctly as I tell you, I listened

701
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: to what you say, I think you had the Rams

702
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: winning that game.

703
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: Maybe I might have.

704
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: I think I'm surprised it was like the last stand,

705
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: you know, in terms of the Dolphins, because Dolphins don't

706
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: get that win last week is over.

707
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: Season's over is done.

708
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: The motivation that kind of play play out the string changes,

709
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: but that gives them life, that puts them back on

710
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 3: what we call the graphic where they have an opportunity

711
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: to potentially get into the postseason. So now, yeah, you

712
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 3: got a team that's willing to bring a dogfight, so

713
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 3: it should be interesting to see how it goes. But

714
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 3: the Dolphins have a lot of talent, and they're taken

715
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: on the Raiders team that is trying to find itself

716
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: after dumping their entire offense of staff and Norv Turner

717
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: and Scott Turner taken over at the controls.

718
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Speaker 2: Right, You've got the Rams at the Patriots today, So

719
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: you can lick your chops a little bit going against

720
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Speaker 2: the Patriots. With Patriots right now, I think all they

721
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: really have offensively is from Andre Stevenson. But here's the

722
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: question right now, can the Rams stop him? You know,

723
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: can the Rams stop him in that run game? Okay,

724
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: the Rams run against New England? Can they do that?

725
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean this Rams team, I mean,

726
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: I give them the benefit of the doubtocus that had

727
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: a lot of injuries, a lot of injuries early on

728
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: with their receivers. But right now, they got to get

729
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: a running game going. That's the key right there. And

730
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying the Patriots are going to beat him,

731
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: but I think they're going to struggle. I think that

732
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: Patriots will hank with them a little bit, maybe for

733
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: two three quarters in that ball game today.

734
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, the Patriots give them credit like they've done a

736
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 3: really good job of battling back.

737
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Speaker 1: We've seen the last couple of weeks that they've shown.

738
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Speaker 3: They've they've shown a resilience and a toughness about him

739
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: since let's be honest, Rod Mayo called him out. He remember,

740
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: he said that the team was soft. But they they've responded.

741
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 3: They've also given more opportunities to the young quarterback Drake May.

742
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: He's shown that he can step up and lead the team.

743
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Speaker 3: And look, man, you just got to give them credit

744
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: for continuing about or continue to find ways to stay

745
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Speaker 3: in there with a team that on paper does not

746
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Speaker 3: look like one of the more talented teams in the

747
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Speaker 3: lastional football.

748
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Speaker 2: Okay, you talk about teams that aren't talented. I mean,

749
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Speaker 2: this is one of the biggest disappointments of the year.

750
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Speaker 2: I think in the National Football League. The Cleveland Browns

751
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: at two and seven, they're going against the team that's

752
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: three and seven in New Orleans, State of the Saints.

753
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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody expected the Saints to do much,

754
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: but the Browns playing against the Saints. What the Browns

755
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: need is that running back Nick Chubb to get going.

756
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously he's been out coming back and maybe

757
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: he lost it. Is that the possibility that Nick Chubb

758
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: is not going to be the Nick Chubb of old

759
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: can't do it anymore.

760
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Speaker 3: I think with Nick Chubb, like normally, when it comes

761
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: to bouncing back from an acl situation, it takes two years.

762
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 3: It takes two years for you to fully feel comfortable

763
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: and confident that you can do the things that you

764
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 3: previously used to do. How he gets, how long it

765
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 3: takes him to get going, it is only something that

766
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 3: he can control. But if you're the Browns, you're trying

767
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: to get him going, You're trying to give him more carries,

768
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: You're trying to get him knocked the rust off, and

769
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: you hope that he can be the nick Chub that

770
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: has really helped kind of carry this offense for the

771
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 3: last few years. Talented player, and with what they have

772
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Speaker 3: going on at quarterback, they need him to be the

773
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Speaker 3: guy that is destrawed it stirs to drink.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if he can handle all.

775
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: That depend no doubt about that. But he could do

776
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: it today because New Orleans has one of the worst

777
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: run defenses in the league. They've allowed one hundred and

778
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: eighty or more rushing yatch in three of the last

779
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 2: five games. And the Saints they're coming together a little

780
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: bit right now. I gotta believe they are. They won

781
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: last week against Atlanta, which is a shaker. They haven't

782
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 2: turned the ball over in three weeks. Don't turn the

783
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: ball over. That's the key, That's the key staton in

784
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: football right now. Turnovers right now takeaways at the Browns

785
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 2: quarterback Jamis Wilson. He threw three interceptions in their last

786
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: game before the Bos. All right, and people are telling me,

787
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: right now, it's a grudge game. But Jameis woods is

788
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: coming back. It's not a grudge game. Blame. It's all

789
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: about talent. I mean, right, am I right about that

790
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: grudge game? I mean, really, forget it. I mean, you're

791
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: scraping for something to talk, all right about. If you're

792
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: saying this is a grudge game for Jameis Winston. The

793
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 2: team is freaking two and seven, How can it be

794
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 2: a grudge game.

795
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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, I mean, it may be a

796
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 3: grids game for him, not for the rest of the team,

797
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: but a great game in terms of like you're being

798
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 3: very personal to him to make sure that he represented

799
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 3: does things the right way. But look, man, all that stuff,

800
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: all that outside emotion and stuff like, all that stuff

801
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 3: is cool until you get into the game. You gotta

802
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 3: play like it comes out to execution over emotion.

803
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: And so if you execute, you win. If you don't,

804
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: you go home.

805
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: It's pretty simple, right, And it's gonna be New Orleans today.

806
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: They're gonna win. All right, We'll live for the tire

807
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Speaker 2: Sunday at foxbutscho and he is Bucky Brooks and Andy

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Speaker 2: Fermana went live from the Tyrock dot Com studios. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's get it going, as Buck is that time? Here

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Speaker 2: we go. All right, Buck, Jake, Paul, Mike Tyson, the fight?

820
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: Were you in or out? Did you watch the fight?

821
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the fight right now, because I'm glad

822
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 2: I didn't watch it, because all people saw us butfering

823
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: from Netflix. It was all about Buffering.

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00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: I did not watch the fight. I was not in

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Speaker 1: on it.

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Speaker 3: I was more worried about it because Mike Tyson last

827
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Speaker 3: couple of times he's fought, I mean, like going all

828
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Speaker 3: the way back.

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Speaker 1: He yet he had been losing.

830
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Speaker 3: So now a fifty eight year old version of sixty

831
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Speaker 3: year version of Mike Tyson. As much as we live

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Speaker 3: in the nostalgic past, it was gonna be hard for

833
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: Mike Tyson to be the twenty something year old guy.

834
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 3: And what we saw or what the highlight showed, certainly

835
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: not what anyone should have wanted to see. Mike Tyson

836
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: taken on Jake Paul, but it made a bunch of money,

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Speaker 3: which is all good.

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Speaker 2: Twenty mili. I think Icon got on that fight. But

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Speaker 2: you know, here's my question. A lot of people will

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00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: complain it because Netflix was messed up big time and

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00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: there's a lot of buffering going on. Do people get

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00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: their money back from that? I don't know. I doubt

843
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Speaker 2: I don't think.

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Speaker 1: No, we'll we'll do better next time. That's the only

845
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 1: thing that you can.

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00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: Get from all right. Georgia head football coach Kirby Smart.

847
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 2: He addressed a video of backup safety Jake Pope celebrating

848
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 2: on the field after the Bulldogs lost to Ole miss

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00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: List Week twenty eight ten. Okay, he called him, what

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00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: an idiot? I mean, he's just playing stupid. This is

851
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: what Kirby Smart said, about this kid on his team,

852
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: your comments about a coach saying that, and it goes public,

853
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: goes viral.

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00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it was stupid.

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Speaker 3: The dude is on You're on the team, they got beat,

856
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 3: but you're celebrating the opposing fans, even if those but.

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00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: Are your high school buddies or whatever. That is stupid.

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00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: So I'm not mad at he be smart for telling

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Speaker 3: the truth. It was a stupid move by a player

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00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 3: who your lawyerty and allegiance should be for your team,

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00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: not the other team.

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00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: It was a celebrate with him after the game with

863
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Speaker 2: something like that. But I'm not right on the field,

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00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: they was stupid.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean they're rocking

867
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Speaker 2: and rolling right now, playing their first division FO today

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Speaker 2: in Baltimore. Do they sneak in the top five of

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Speaker 2: NFL teams? We're looking at maybe Kansas City number one.

870
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: You took me into it because I thought it was

871
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions, But since they haven't lost the game,

872
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with you. Kansas City one, Detroit

873
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: Lions two, Ravens Bills. Are the Steelers right there? What

874
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: about the Eagles and Commanders? What do you think are

875
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 2: there Steelers in the top five?

876
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: I think so.

877
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: I think I think we got to get Andy to

878
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 3: start paying attention to Buckie's Top ten every week. So

879
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 3: we see that where I have the Steelers ranked and

880
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: we're the still is ranked right now.

881
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: I got them three.

882
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 3: I got the can City Chiefs, de Trade Lines, the

883
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Stellers, Buffalo, and the Minnesota Viking. So yeah, the

884
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers should be in there. Make sure you check

885
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: out the top ten rankings on Friday.

886
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: I know, I know, no, no, no.

887
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 3: No, that's about that for box sports. We're talking about

888
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: on Mondays and Tuesdays. Got top ten. Got checked that out, Andy.

889
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, I've been looking at the NFL dot

890
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 2: com on Friday. That's right, all right, here we got

891
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: let's talk about the New York Jets. They're hurting right now,

892
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: but how much hurt? And they're losing season almost Will

893
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: that hurt their quarterback Aaron Rodgers and his legacy and

894
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: maybe even the Hall of Fame chances.

895
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: No, I won't impact his Hall of Fame chances, his legacy.

896
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: I think everybody knows that he can be a little much.

897
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 3: So if anything, there's a little confirmation that he is

898
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: a little much when it comes to deal with But

899
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: now I won't have any long term effects on the

900
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 3: way that people view him.

901
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: Okay, he won't be a first ballot Hall of Fame,

902
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: but I don't think what do you think on that?

903
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: Oh, he's first ballot?

904
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: Is he really? Okay? Y? Well, you do agree that

905
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: he's not a great leader and not a great team player.

906
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, now that I'm one, he's not a great team player,

907
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: not a great leader. I think we've seen that in

908
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 3: full effect this time around.

909
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: There we go.

910
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: Now, Bucket Brooks tells you why this team refuses to

911
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: lose data more. We're right here. I'm fucked.

912
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: Next.

913
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Speaker 2: Oh, and the way we go, there's only one game,

914
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 2: one game to talk about, and we'll do that in

915
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Speaker 2: just about a minute. Here's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furmant. Together,

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923
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Speaker 2: If you want to know something about football, there's only

924
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Speaker 2: one guy on God's Green Earth, and he's my partner

925
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Speaker 2: and friend, the one and only Bucky Brooks. Oh fuck,

926
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Speaker 2: how are you? It's that time again?

927
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: It is that time again. How you doing Andy?

928
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: I'm doing great, and you know I have learned so

929
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: much from you. I'm not trying to suck up. I

930
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: really mean that, and fine. After watching some college football yesterday,

931
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: what I learned is that it is not so much

932
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: personnel which is important. It's all about coaching. I look

933
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: at the Indiana team this year. What they've done, they

934
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: changed coaches, the guys is unreal. They just gave him

935
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: like an eight year deal for sixty four million, all right.

936
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: I look at Arizona State, they turned it around with

937
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: their coach, and then I look at LSU with Brian Kelly,

938
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: and like, you know, everything just kind of like exploded yesterday.

939
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: Did you see him on team? It was embarrassing. Last

940
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: week we talked about the athletic director of Utah who

941
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 2: went into the locker room after the game. In the

942
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: news conference, he got fined forty grand He made a

943
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: fool out of himself embarrassed to school. I have to

944
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: say the same thing for Brian Kelly. He embarrassed himself,

945
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: embarrassed LSU, and I think right now he has one

946
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: foot in the grave. You know, LSU loses yesterday, but

947
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: he got into it on TV, caught on camera screaming

948
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: at a player and yell and he was yelled at

949
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: by another player during the game. As LSU drops the

950
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: six and four, then their season basically is over. I mean,

951
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever seen that or been

952
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: involved with something like that, but I just don't. I

953
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 2: don't think it's healthy. Just did look good. You just

954
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 2: felt uncomfortable. You felt dirty watching that, didn't you?

955
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: Buck, Yeah, you do.

956
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 3: But now backstory, you have to remember Brian Kelly that

957
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: we're seeing at LSU is Brian Kelly that kind of

958
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: been washed and cleaned that Notre Dame because remember when

959
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: he was at Cincinnati, he would browbeat players like to

960
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: know one's tomorrow. And when he first got the Notre Dame,

961
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 3: there was an incident where they caught him on the

962
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 3: sideline where he was browbeating people and he had.

963
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: To change because that's not necessarily the Notre Dame Way.

964
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 3: But the pressure, the stress, I would say, the mounting

965
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 3: stakes in the SEC has probably forced his old personality

966
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: to come out, whether that be frustration or just the

967
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 3: need or desire to want to get it turned around.

968
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: At LSU.

969
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 3: It came out and the Brian Kelly that we saw

970
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 3: yesterday is the one that has been We've seen that

971
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: version before, but it's been a long time. So the

972
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: fact that he's back in for Ernest tells you how

973
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: much pressure is on him to get this thing done right.

974
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: And I think you took up pressure. I think there's

975
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: pressure on him to get him out, don't you agree.

976
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: I think the alumbs right now, they gave him a

977
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: big deal and I understand that. I mean, that's the

978
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: that's the deal with college coaches right now, the when

979
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: he's out there and it's a big time school, but

980
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: they expect, they expect some results from a guy who

981
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 2: didn't pay that kind of money in that conference and

982
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: it's big time football, you know. And I was saying,

983
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: I was told to some friends yesterday after the situation

984
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: with the LSU dealer said, you know, sometimes the greened

985
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: pastures aren't the best thing. He hadn't made he had

986
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: it made in Cincinnati. I mean, he took that to

987
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: a major bowl at the University of Cincinnati when they

988
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 2: were in the American Conference. Then all of a sudden,

989
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: you know, he had a I guess a lifelong dream

990
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: to coach at Not Jerdame. He had a decent run

991
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: at Notjen Dame, and then he wanted more.

992
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: I think I think he's the all time Wednsley.

993
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: Theer noted that I don't know, may he might be.

994
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: He may may very well be right, and he had

995
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: a good run, he did no doubt about that. But

996
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: after that he wanted he more. Why he'd go to

997
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 2: LSU And then that news conference when he was hired,

998
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: kind of using that draw, that accent. I mean, it

999
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: didn't go over. I mean he just he put his

1000
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: foot in his mouth of the opening news conference. And

1001
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of people right now looking

1002
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: at him and not feeling too sorry for him either

1003
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: that I tell you that right now.

1004
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: No, I mean probably not.

1005
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 3: But I mean he changed the bag and they had

1006
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 3: to come after him hard because they were trying to

1007
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 3: get Lincoln Riley. Lincoln Riley had flirted with him and

1008
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: then at the last minute changed his mind. That left

1009
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 3: him scrambling, and so they settled on Brian Kelly, who

1010
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 3: had credentials given the success that he had a Notre Dame,

1011
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,479
Speaker 3: bringing Notre Dame back to prominence and those things.

1012
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: It was a new challenge. But what he's founding out,

1013
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: like a lot of people found out, it's hard to

1014
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: win consistently in the SEC.

1015
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 3: It's the gauntlet is the number of teams just to

1016
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 3: back to back to back to back heavyweight fights that

1017
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 3: you have to engage in. That makes it difficult and

1018
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 3: distress because people talk about it and they laugh about it,

1019
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 3: but it means a little more in that region of

1020
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: the country and the SEC like football is everything, Like

1021
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 3: there's football season and then there's recruiting season, but there's

1022
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: no offseason when it comes to it, and you have

1023
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 3: to be on and the weight of kind of carrier

1024
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 3: program twenty four to seven, three sixty five can sometimes

1025
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: get the best of you. And I think what we

1026
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: saw is football getting the best of Brian Kelly yesterday.

1027
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: Right, And I'll go one step further. Look the next

1028
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 2: football game I play in the major college that will

1029
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: be my first, there's no doubt about that. But I

1030
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: think that players take after that coach is what I

1031
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: mean by that, When they see the coach has a

1032
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: tight butt and he's under pressure and he's kind of

1033
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: tight and nervous. I think that falls down to the

1034
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: player as well as well. I mean, this team opened

1035
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: the season would have lost, and right away in college football,

1036
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: you're owing one, there's a little bit of pressure. Then

1037
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: they come back to that overtime win against Ole Miss,

1038
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 2: which is pretty good. It looks like they're on their way,

1039
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: and they lose yesterday twenty seven to sixteen to a

1040
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: Florida team, which really is not good. Florida was owing

1041
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: four against ranked teams going into the game yesterday, and

1042
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: right now LS was six and four one. Basically, the

1043
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: season's over. There's no doubt about that. This season is

1044
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: gone right now, and players see that and players feel that,

1045
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: And I guess there's a contingent of place on that

1046
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 2: LSU team that are happy because he'll be gone, or

1047
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: they're upset because they wanted to go deep into the playoffs.

1048
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: So there's a split right now. I gotta believe in

1049
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: that locker room.

1050
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah there's a split.

1051
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 3: But you know, like the bio is significant, and I

1052
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 3: don't know if it's enough for them to move on

1053
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 3: from him in terms of like their lack of success

1054
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 3: or the lack of success to a certain level. But yeah,

1055
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's some cracks along that roster, not only

1056
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: in terms of like guys being disappointed, guys being happy

1057
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 3: that he may be in the fire, but just like

1058
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 3: not living up to you know, or not playing up

1059
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 3: to expectations. LSU has become a program where they vy

1060
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 3: for championships and that's the expectation.

1061
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: Yes, it's been twenty nineteen since they.

1062
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: Won, but that Joe Burrow squad was one of the

1063
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: squads that LSU fancies himself as a team that can

1064
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,479
Speaker 3: compete on the biggest stage. And whenever they fall short, yeah,

1065
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: the pressure escalates. And Brian Kelly and the players are

1066
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: feeling that pressure, no.

1067
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 2: Doubt about that. Good let him feel the pressure. He

1068
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: created it. Then he's gonna get the pressure.

1069
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: Now.

1070
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: Well, I said, coming up to this segment, there's only

1071
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: one game to talk about. That's our good friend Deon Sanders,

1072
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 2: And I tell you right now, I mean he's eight

1073
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: and two, but more than that, Travis Hunter. Right now,

1074
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: if he doesn't win the Heisman Trophy, there's got to

1075
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: be an investigation. Okay, because he showed up did it

1076
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 2: all yesterday forty nine to twenty four. Colorado wins over Utah.

1077
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter fifty five yards rushing and interception. He rushs

1078
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: for a touchdown. Colorado scored the most points on Utah's

1079
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: defense since Oregon did back in twenty fourteen. This Colorado

1080
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 2: team is rolling. And as you notice, and maybe I'm

1081
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: just the only one who's saying this, and maybe I'm

1082
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: just fantasizing. I don't know, but the more they win,

1083
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 2: the less Dion talks. You know, isn't that true. I mean,

1084
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: he was talking big time last year. He was talking

1085
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 2: when he got the job. Now they're rolling. He had

1086
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: the one thing he did say yesterday, which I love,

1087
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: is we haven't played out best football yet. And then

1088
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: they're eight and two, so he's just saying, let the

1089
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 2: team do the talking.

1090
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they haven't played their basketball.

1091
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 3: I would say that the game yesterday was one where

1092
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 3: and I mean, I'll be frank, like.

1093
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: They didn't bring their a game. Defense. Yes, yeah, defense

1094
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 1: played well.

1095
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: Offense, it was a little sluggish in terms of just

1096
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 3: the flow in the rhythm of the offense. Yeah, they

1097
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 3: put up forty plus points, but it just was the

1098
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 3: way that it looked. It didn't look like a clean performance.

1099
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: And if they're going to be the team that they

1100
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 3: want to be, they got to updated it a little bit.

1101
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: But it's hard to win games consistently in college. The

1102
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: fact that they've gotten to eight and two when everyone

1103
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: had written this team off after Nebraska loss, I think

1104
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 3: he speaks volumes to him. He speaks volumes about the

1105
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 3: team by battling back and being able to kind of

1106
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: settle in and to be able to do it in

1107
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: the second year is really impressive, no doubt about that.

1108
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: Let's go back to Travis Hunt for a second. Ten

1109
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 2: games played, they're eight and two. He has over nine

1110
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 2: hundred old purposely ours, he has ten touchdowns, He's got

1111
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: three interceptions. He's one of the best cover corners, I

1112
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 2: guess in college football. He had a game winning force

1113
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 2: fumble against Baylor way back when. And now the major

1114
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: question is kind of defensive back win the Heisman because

1115
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 2: usually it's a quarterback trophy. Kind of defensive back? Can

1116
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: he win the Heisman Trophy?

1117
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 4: Certainly?

1118
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: I think he deserves it really now, if the team

1119
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 2: had a losing record and he had these numbers, you know,

1120
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 2: I'd say, I don't know. I He've got a winning

1121
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 2: record and he's got those big time numbers. They're gonna

1122
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: go to the championship game, probably in the Big twelve.

1123
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: I think he's the Heisman candidate right now. He's a guy,

1124
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 2: head and shoulders above everybody else right now.

1125
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I think the thing that helps him is

1126
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 3: he's on the national stage. Like his talent and all

1127
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 3: that is impressive, but he's given the platform because of

1128
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 3: the intrigue over Deion Sanders in Colorado.

1129
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: They're on national TV every week.

1130
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 3: I think every game that they played this season has

1131
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 3: been on a major player form that allows the country

1132
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 3: to see Travis Hunter.

1133
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: That allows him to become a household name.

1134
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 3: And in a race where you don't have the quarterback

1135
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 3: that's really separated himself from the pack, it allows Travis

1136
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: Hunter to maybe to sneak in the back door.

1137
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: It win the Heisman, right And I guess I got

1138
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: to break yesterday. I couldn't believe it, but Brigham Young

1139
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 2: lost late against Kansas seventeen thirty kind of on a

1140
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: free play because I think Kansas had a punt and

1141
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: it hit the BYU defender in the head, the ball

1142
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: was loose, recovered by Kansas, Kansas scored by the being

1143
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: by the bank. That's it, and Kansas wins that game.

1144
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 2: I was shocked, and it's a tough loss for Brigham Young.

1145
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: But right now, that one loss throws the whole thing

1146
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: out of whack right now in that conference, and we'll

1147
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 2: see what happens. A big twelve runner up and now

1148
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: guaranteed to have two losses. Everything's up in the air

1149
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 2: right now, which makes it great. And I think it's

1150
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 2: a wonderful situation, and it even enforces the fact that

1151
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: the twelve team college football playoff is the right thing

1152
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 2: to do. I love it. I think it's great.

1153
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I agree with you when you talk about

1154
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 3: how great it has been to have the expanded playoffs

1155
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 3: and what it's done and what it's meant to like,

1156
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 3: just the intrigue, the energy around college football is just

1157
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 3: at a different level, and I think we all are

1158
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 3: excited to see that. It's one of those things that

1159
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 3: we've been kind of longing for that for a while,

1160
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 3: right more teams participating in the process, more teams kind

1161
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 3: of being in it all the way to the end,

1162
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: and what we've seen is I don't know, I would

1163
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 3: say the best season of college football in terms of

1164
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: just people being motivated, eyes on the product that we've

1165
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 3: seen it sometimes right.

1166
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 2: So we got the number one Oregon right now, they're

1167
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: still number one. Ohio State that got a big est

1168
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: today over Northwestern those surprise the game played in Rigley Field,

1169
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: thirty one to seven. So I think those teams are

1170
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 2: one to two right now. I don't think that changed.

1171
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 2: I think Oregon is still the best team in the country.

1172
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: Do you think they are head and shoulders above Ohio State? Oregon?

1173
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: Are they?

1174
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: Are they that good?

1175
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're hitting shoulders.

1176
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 3: I think they're better than them, but I don't know

1177
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 3: if they're If they are that good, I believe that

1178
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 3: Oregon has all the pieces of the puzzle right they

1179
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 3: need everything to get like they have everything that they

1180
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 3: need to go. But we saw the game last night

1181
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 3: against Wisconsin like it wasn't a blow out game. It

1182
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 3: was a game that came down to the very end,

1183
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: and they're resilient enough to win it. The gauntlet is

1184
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: the gauntlet, though, and as a first time coach running

1185
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 3: his team through it, Dan lanning. A lot of it

1186
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 3: depends on who are they matched up against. Would Oregon

1187
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: want to see Georgia. If Georgia's on the bottom line,

1188
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 3: it has to go through there. So it comes down

1189
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 3: to matchups and those things. But yeah, they're well positioned

1190
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: to do it. I don't know if there's a favorite though.

1191
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a clear cut favorite in

1192
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 3: college football, like in the past we would.

1193
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: Say Georgia or Alabama.

1194
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a clearcut favorite that everyone

1195
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 3: can kind of get behind and say there's no doubt

1196
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 3: this is a team that's gonna win a national title.

1197
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 2: I think it's great. I mean in years past, as

1198
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 2: Alabama would dominate college football, and I remember reading stories

1199
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 2: that they were upset. Nick Saban was upset that the

1200
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: crowds were not that strong and the students were not

1201
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: going to the games. Of course, they were blowouts, and

1202
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: they were spending more time in the library. Believe it

1203
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: or not, They're going to a college football game and

1204
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: Tuscaloosa on Saturday. And now it's kind of wide open

1205
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: because right now I look at this Penn State team.

1206
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 2: Yesterday they rolled over Purdue forty nine to ten. I mean,

1207
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: obviously they lost to Ohio State early on, but Penn State.

1208
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 2: Don't count them out. I think Penn State right there

1209
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 2: make some noise. I like Penn State.

1210
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only thing about Penn State is and this

1211
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 3: is a minor team, but James Franklin's record against top

1212
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 3: five or whatever team has not been a great But

1213
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 3: nobody's great. Nobody's record is great when you're playing Deak

1214
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 3: caliber team, but they don't have a major win on

1215
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 3: the resume in terms of knocking off a big team.

1216
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 3: So how did they stack up in the one time

1217
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: they would get a chance to see him?

1218
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: It didn't go so well.

1219
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 3: And like I say this, I think this version of

1220
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 3: college football playoffs comes down to matchups and who you're

1221
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 3: facing the opponent for the week as opposed.

1222
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: To what you've done all year.

1223
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 3: Because I'll be honest, some of these teams, if army

1224
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 3: is able to kind of I would say sneak into

1225
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 3: the back door, they give you problems because their style

1226
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 3: of play styles makes fights. And so that's why it's

1227
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 3: gonna be exciting to see the college football playoff play out.

1228
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 2: Right, How surprised way that Georgia rolled over Tennessee. I

1229
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 2: saw the score early on, looked like Tennessee had him

1230
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 2: for a second. They beat him up thirty one to seventeen,

1231
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: and Carson Beck all of a sudden, this is a guy.

1232
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 2: Back in August, they were saying maybe a Heisman trophy

1233
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 2: when they're not gonna happen. But this guy had twelve

1234
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: interceptions in six games. But yesterday came out there through

1235
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: forelmost three hundred and fifty yards and two touchdowns, and

1236
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 2: the game was really a must win game for Georgia,

1237
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: and they came back and they beat Tennessee.

1238
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, give them credit. It was a big game for Georgia.

1239
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 3: Even though and I'll say this because people are I

1240
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 3: think we had a little Georgia fatigue. This is a

1241
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 3: team that has played the toughest schedule known demand. I mean,

1242
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 3: they have played every heavyweight or whatever, and they've had

1243
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 3: some narrow losses. And yeah, the loss to Old Mess

1244
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 3: was kind of eye opening and drawing. But you got

1245
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 3: to give them credit. This is a team that is

1246
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 3: a tough out. They play a physical brand of ball,

1247
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 3: They're not afraid to run it, and Kirby Smart does

1248
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 3: a great job of getting this team prepared to play.

1249
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: That showed up.

1250
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: Tennessee has a great offense, great young quarterback and Nico.

1251
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 3: They spread through out, they go fast, and Georgia was

1252
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 3: able to get lined up. They were able to impose

1253
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 3: their will on them, and that made all the difference

1254
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 3: in the world. Just being able to line up and

1255
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 3: play and to physically pound on them. That allowed them

1256
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 3: to knock off the Tennessee volunteers.

1257
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm glad you mentioned Georgia and the schedule

1258
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: situation because they the scheduling really means something because it's

1259
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 2: who you're playing. And why I bring that up because

1260
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: Alabama is today. You know they played Mersa. I mean

1261
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: they have a tough time when they scrimmage each other.

1262
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: Really they beat MRCIA fifty two to seven. Why they

1263
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: do that, I don't know, and they do it every

1264
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 2: year on this time. I mean, I understand the SEC

1265
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: is tough and you need a little bit of a break,

1266
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 2: but I'll tell you what, the pollsters don't have a

1267
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 2: break and they look to see who you play. I know,

1268
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 2: you got to roll up the score against a scool

1269
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 2: like Mercer, but I don't think that does anything at

1270
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: all for Alabama study beating up a MRSA fifty two

1271
00:55:59,200 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: to seven.

1272
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 3: No, it's a reset, though, I would say it's a

1273
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 3: break from the stress of having to play in one

1274
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 3: of these heavyweight fights. I talked about the sec and

1275
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 3: why it's so difficult because you have to play back

1276
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 3: to back to back to back to back against a

1277
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 3: very competitive opponent. Well, this gives you a week to

1278
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 3: kind of reset, focus on your fundamentals, not necessarily worry

1279
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 3: about the outcome of the game because you can get

1280
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 3: this practice working in. You are supremely talented, you have

1281
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 3: a superior team, and so it's a good reset before

1282
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 3: they go into the last phase of the season so

1283
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: they can finish out strong and dealing with whatever is

1284
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 3: ahead for them in the playoffs and those things.

1285
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 2: Well, I'm waiting for next week. I can't wait for

1286
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 2: the Indiana Ohio State game. That'll be a big We'll

1287
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 2: see how good Indiana really is next week. And I'm

1288
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: glad they had a week off to prepare and get

1289
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 2: themselves healthy on that. But I don't know. I mean,

1290
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 2: Ohio State had no problem at all, but Northwest I

1291
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 2: didn't think they would thirty one to seven. They beat them.

1292
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: It is a good one and Ridley feel kind of

1293
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 2: historic to do that. But I don't know. Does Indiana

1294
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 2: have a chance? Did I have a chance against Ohio State?

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Speaker 1: Buck?

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00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 3: Yes, because their offense is real and this coach, Kirk Signet,

1297
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 3: who signed correct to him eight year extension eight million

1298
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 3: a year, making big money. He's done this before. He

1299
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 3: has a lot of confidence in his team. He's given

1300
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 3: them confidence. They play at a high rate on offense

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00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 3: and if Orios State isn't on their game yet, they

1302
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 3: can take an ill. This will not be an easy

1303
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 3: win for the Buckeyes. This would be a different challenge

1304
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 3: for him. But yeah, I think Indiana is up to

1305
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 3: the job.

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00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: Sounds great, al Right, little roll on right now, he's

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00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman. Get Bucky on X on

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00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: Twitter or if you want to call it out, Bucket

1309
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: Brooks at Andy Ferman FSR. Now in our number three,

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00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 2: we have the Swollen Dome Mike Harmon himself and you

1311
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: can get him on X at Swollen Dome or eight

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Speaker 2: seven seven ninety nine one Fox. That's our phone number.

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Speaker 2: That translates to eight seven seven nine nine six sixty

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Speaker 2: three sixty nine. We've got ass Bucky in this hour.

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00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 2: Our number two by the barrel better than has mentioned.

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00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: Mike Harmon will join us an hour number three. But

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00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: is this quarterback in the MVP mix? We'll explain that

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00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: next one NFL player is a MIA, and we'll tell

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00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 2: you who he is right around the corner. Okay, he

1320
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 2: is Bucky Brooks. He's not Mia. I'm Andy Furman and

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Speaker 2: we are Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. By

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Speaker 2: the way, football fans, be sure to tune into Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio when every Sunday morning, beginning at ten am

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00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: Eastern seven am Pacific, for count Down the Kickoff presented

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Speaker 2: by bet MGM, Brian No Jeff Schwartz, a professional bet

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Speaker 2: Bill Krackenberger. We'll have you cover three hours before kickoff

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00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 2: every Sunday morning. Listen to count out the Kickoff presented

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00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: by bet MGM right here on Fox Sports Radio and

1329
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: of course the iHeartRadio app. Now, Bucky Brooks, a running back,

1330
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: has not won MVP in the NFL. When since Adrian

1331
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 2: Peterson did it in twenty twelve. You probably weren't even

1332
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: born then. How's that right? So I ask you this

1333
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: is there a possibility? And I say, Sae Kwon Barkley

1334
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 2: could be the MVP should be the MVP. Perhaps I

1335
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: watched that game Thursday night. It was Eagles twenty six

1336
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 2: to eighteen, but it was all sa Kwon Barkley. By

1337
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: the way, some stats for Saquon all Right, twenty seven

1338
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 2: years old, leeds the league in rushing but over eleven

1339
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: hundred yards. That's seventeen more right now at eleven thirty

1340
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: seven at seventeen more. And Derreck Henry for now all right,

1341
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 2: they both are averaging six yards of carry. And it's

1342
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 2: kind of crazy when you think about it, that we're

1343
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 2: talking about two possible running backs, Derrick Henry and Sakuon

1344
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: Barkley is MVP and these guys are kind of bounced

1345
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: from their original team anyway from a year ago. Think

1346
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: about that. So is there a chance in your heart

1347
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 2: of hearts that sae Kwon Barkley will be the MVP

1348
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: this year?

1349
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 3: MVP tough because it be tough to supplant Lamar Jackson.

1350
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 3: But I think what he can do is finish as

1351
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 3: the offensive player of the year. If anything, what Sakwon

1352
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 3: Barkley has done is proved that. Look, his value was

1353
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 3: never fully appreciated in New York and with the Giants,

1354
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 3: falling apart and the Eagles flourishing.

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01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: With him as the centerpiece of their offense. There's no

1356
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: doubt that he was a multifaceted player who needed to

1357
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: be treated as such.

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01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 3: And I know people talk about the money and the

1359
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 3: contract and running back money is different in quarterback money,

1360
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 3: but the Giants should have made it known that Saquon

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01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 3: Barkley was the best player.

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Speaker 1: On their team.

1363
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 3: When they didn't, it was a level of disrespect that

1364
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 3: forced him to leave and he ended up in Philadelphia.

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01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 3: In Philadelphia, he's been a godsend because what he does

1366
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 3: is he gives them a running back that can run

1367
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Speaker 3: inside and outside.

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01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: He can catch it out the backfield.

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01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 3: He has big playability and if you're a team that

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01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 3: pays too much attention to the weapons that they have

1371
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 3: on the outside, Aj Brown, Davonte Smith, Saquon Barkley can

1372
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 3: hurt you. And it has made their offense nearly impossible

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01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 3: to defend. And as Kellen Moore gets more comfortable putting

1374
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 3: together the pieces of this offense with Saquan as a

1375
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 3: centerpiece and maximizing Jalen Hurts his skills as a runner

1376
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 3: and thrower, this team is tough and this team is

1377
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 3: all the stuff that we say about Nick Sirianni.

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01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: This team is eight and two and rolling.

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01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. You know, you mentioned something

1380
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: over there. I just picked up on that. You talk

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01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 2: about how tough their offense is, and certainly they got

1382
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 2: their running back and they got two great receivers right there,

1383
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 2: and they're doing well, and the offense is tough to stop.

1384
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: Compare their offense, if you will, to the Baltimore Ravens,

1385
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 2: because everybody raves about that offense because you don't know

1386
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: if Lamar is gonna pass, and he's developed himself into

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01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 2: a decent passer right now, and he's gonna run the football.

1388
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 2: And they got Derrick Henry and they got some receivers

1389
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 2: over there. But I think that the Eagles offense is

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01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 2: a lot more dangerous than the Baltimore Ravens offense.

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Speaker 1: I would say they both are dangerous different ways.

1392
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Speaker 3: Like the Ravens offense is dangerous because you have Derrick Henry,

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01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 3: the sledgehammer, and then it's just the look man, the

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01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 3: unbelievable talents that Lamar Jackson brings to the table as

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01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 3: a runner and a thrower. He just had different gears,

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01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 3: different levels to his game, and he makes you defend

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01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 3: the entire field horizontally and vertically as a thrower and

1398
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 3: also as a runner, so it's it's tough, and then

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Speaker 3: they get new weapons on the outside. I would say

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Speaker 3: that the difference between the two would be the Eagles

1401
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 3: wide receivers I think you can say are a notch

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Speaker 3: above what the Baltimore Ravens have, and Derrick Hemry and

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01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley push and then if it comes to the quarterback,

1404
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson over Jayden Hurt, so they end up being even.

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01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 3: It's just a matter what do you value more when

1406
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 3: it comes down to breaking their personnel.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's switch from offense to defense right now, because

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01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 2: you mentioned the Ravens. The Ravens are playing at the

1409
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: Steelers today and that's could be a heck of a game,

1410
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Speaker 2: maybe one of the best games on the DHAKA today

1411
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 2: Baltimore and they have piss defense is ranked less than

1412
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 2: the NFL. The Ravens, by the way, they started the

1413
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 2: season zero to two, but in six of the last

1414
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 2: eight games they scored thirty more points. So we talk

1415
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 2: about their offense, they could score there's no doubt about that.

1416
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: As for the Steelers. Let's talk about Russell Wilson. What's

1417
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,959
Speaker 2: about MVPs. This guy's gonna definitely get the comeback Player

1418
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: of the Year. I think three wins in his first

1419
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 2: three starts, I don't think he's in the MVP mix,

1420
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: but I think, as you see it could be the

1421
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: offensive player or combat player of the year. So the

1422
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 2: Steelers need to stop the run. And Lamar is owned

1423
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: three against the Steelers. I don't know what that means.

1424
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 2: They're making a big deal about that, you know. And

1425
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 2: I saw Lamar on TV that had a news company

1426
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 2: when he met the media on Wednesday prior to the game.

1427
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 2: I mean, he probably well, I guess he knows. He

1428
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 2: knows he's owned three against them. But you know, that's

1429
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 2: not a fact that these are just storylines that media

1430
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 2: people like, you know. I guess they just want to

1431
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 2: ride about and talk about. I don't think it means anything.

1432
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 2: You get on the field. You don't think about what

1433
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 2: we can't win because I'm owing three against them, It

1434
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that much. I know when Baltimore got to

1435
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 2: the players, they say that Lamar can't win on the

1436
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 2: big stage. It doesn't work that way, does it. It

1437
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 2: really doesn't does nothing that's going to hold you back.

1438
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 2: I mean, these are just little nuggets of storylines that

1439
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 2: people in media use to kind of finish their stories.

1440
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 2: That's basically what it is. It doesn't mean anything. Once

1441
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 2: you put the uniform on a go on the field, it.

1442
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean anything.

1443
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 3: But if you haven't beaten the team in a long time,

1444
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 3: it's it's still like an issue because you haven't cracked

1445
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 3: the code. Lamar Jackson talked about how he hasn't. He

1446
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 3: still remembers a team that used to give him problems.

1447
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: Back in the day when he was playing youth ball.

1448
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: I think it may have been the Fort Lauderdale.

1449
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 3: Vikings, and he's talked about how he still hates him,

1450
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 3: wouldn't let his kids play for them. Uh so, Uh,

1451
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 3: there is something too when you can't when you haven't

1452
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 3: kind of cracked the code on an opponent. But at

1453
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you are right when they

1454
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 3: square up to play and play like all their history.

1455
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: Doesn't come with you.

1456
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 3: But it does give the opponent a lot of confidence

1457
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 3: knowing that they've done some things that have really knocked

1458
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 3: you off your game and you haven't been able to

1459
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 3: figure it out.

1460
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 2: Well, the Steelers have to stop the run. That's basically

1461
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 2: what they got to do today. And the Ravens, as

1462
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 2: we mentioned, they're like they're a tough offense that they'll

1463
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 2: be dear running and they'll be your passing. So they

1464
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 2: got everything going for them. But I just I got

1465
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 2: that feeling today that the Steelers will win this game.

1466
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a close games, to be a great games,

1467
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 2: be one of those games you don't want to miss.

1468
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 2: I really believe it's gonna be probably the best game

1469
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: on TV today. But there's something about the Pittsburgh Steelers

1470
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: and will prove today that they're they're for real. I

1471
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 2: think there's been some doubts about the Steelers, and look,

1472
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 2: they haven't played a division opponent until today, which is amazing.

1473
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 2: What's about November seventeenth, they haven't played anybody within the division.

1474
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 2: So this is a huge game. It really is for

1475
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers, and they'll prove to the world today

1476
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 2: that they're for real. I know one expected the Pittsburgh

1477
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 2: Steelers to be seven and two after nine games. And

1478
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: I'll give a lot of credit to Mike Tomlin. He's

1479
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: one hell of a coach. He really is.

1480
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 3: He is a great coach, and he's a great coach

1481
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 3: because he is able to take what he has, put

1482
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 3: it together and put it together in a way where

1483
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 3: it works and it complimences one another. Meaning he's able

1484
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 3: to assess his offense, defense, special teams and put together

1485
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 3: game plans that allow them to kind of protect themselves

1486
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 3: in terms of not exposing their deficiencies. And because he

1487
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 3: made the move, which was controversial at the time, to

1488
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 3: put Russell Wilson in over justin fields, what he was

1489
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 3: able to do is expand the offense, add more of

1490
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 3: a vertical element, big play element to the passing game,

1491
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 3: create more room for the running game because now the

1492
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 3: defense has respect to pass, and then it becomes about defense,

1493
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 3: special teams and everything compliment in it.

1494
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: So give him credit.

1495
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:37,479
Speaker 3: It has been fun to watch the Stellers evolved under

1496
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 3: his direction.

1497
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: And their team to be feared. And if they're able to.

1498
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 3: Get this win against the Ravens, now you really got

1499
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 3: to start talking about them being a legitimate contender.

1500
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 2: Okay, and look, I'm guilty of doing this right now,

1501
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: but I'm going to lay it on the line. Last year,

1502
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 2: the Ravens lost both games to the Steelers. All right,

1503
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 2: whatever that means, And I'm sure that's in the minds

1504
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 2: of some on those Baltimore Ravens today as they go

1505
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh. But the Ravens scored something like twenty total

1506
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 2: points and they lost both games against the Steelers last year.

1507
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 2: They have to prove themselves against the team that won

1508
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 2: seven of the last eight games when these two teams

1509
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 2: played against one another. That means something the Pittsburgh Steels

1510
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 2: have dominated over the Baltimore Ravens doesn't mean much today

1511
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 2: going into the game. I'm not so sure. I don't know.

1512
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 2: I mean to some people that might. I mean, that

1513
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,959
Speaker 2: may be the motivation that gets them over the hump.

1514
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: That may be the pregame speech. I mean, you've been

1515
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 2: in locker rooms. Do these coaches go crazy with pregame

1516
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 2: speeches and getting them hyped up like on the college level,

1517
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 2: or they just give them a game plan and say

1518
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 2: here's what we gotta do.

1519
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:44,439
Speaker 3: No, you just kind of give them a game plan

1520
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 3: and what they're gonna do, because like, look, the emotion

1521
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 3: of a pregame speech is done after five minutes. Like

1522
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 3: you have to play on execution, and so yeah, you

1523
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 3: wanted the emotion to be to a certain point, but

1524
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 3: it's about execution. And you know, no pregame spree is

1525
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 3: going to give you enough game to last the full

1526
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 3: sixty minutes. It comes down about execution. And so it's

1527
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 3: one of those things where you got to get you

1528
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 3: guys to play well. You got to get them to

1529
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 3: understand the moment and to make the critical plays when

1530
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 3: they're there to be made.

1531
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: Is that's what big games are about.

1532
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 2: Right And I tell you what the question mark of

1533
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steels right now is the running back now,

1534
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 2: J Harris against the Washington Commanders two point five yards

1535
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: per attempt a total of fifty three yards. Get him going.

1536
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 2: They got to get him going. Got that running game going, that's.

1537
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: What you need.

1538
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens there. I'm gonna move along

1539
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 2: now to your team, the Jaguars against the Lions in

1540
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 2: Detroit today. And obviously it looks like a mismatch. But

1541
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 2: the missing and I just said something about a guy

1542
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 2: missing an action. It's a wide receiver. Gave Davis what

1543
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 2: happened to? I mean, you would know what happened to.

1544
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 2: Gave Davis four targets one reception last week and two

1545
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 2: catches for just thirty two yards in their last three games.

1546
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 2: Got to get this guy going. What's happened? This guy

1547
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 2: is Mia wide receiver Gave Davis for Jacksonville.

1548
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 3: This situation where you know, you got a backup quarterback

1549
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 3: in and Matt Jones who's playing over Trevor Lawrence, and

1550
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 3: you're trying to get the offense going. And so it's

1551
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 3: the combination things. When you have a backup quarterback in,

1552
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 3: is he protected, what does he see? How comfortable is

1553
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 3: he and how confident is he at the end of

1554
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 3: the day to let the ball go. For whatever reason,

1555
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 3: since Gave Davis has arrived, he just hasn't been able

1556
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 3: to click to or connect with either quarterback Trevor Lawrence

1557
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 3: or Mac Jones. And some of them may be the

1558
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 3: quarterback some of that is on him, but it's certainly

1559
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 3: been a big disappointment. There were expectations that he was

1560
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 3: going to come in and be a nice, solid, big

1561
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 3: play number two receiver who would really open up this offense,

1562
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:39,799
Speaker 3: and that hasn't happened.

1563
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: Some of it has been injuries or whatever, but I

1564
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: would say one of.

1565
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 3: The bigger disappointments has been watching, gave Davis not give

1566
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 3: them what they need on.

1567
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 2: The perimeter right now. I'll give you credit right now

1568
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 2: because I know that's your team. All right. Last week,

1569
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 2: I would say they hung with the Vikings. It was

1570
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 2: a it was a tough game. It was turnovers that

1571
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 2: killed him. They lost to the Minnesota twelve last week

1572
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 2: and they were with them. If they can hang today

1573
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 2: with the Lions, they'll give them a game. But the

1574
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 2: key right now, as you mentioned Matt Jones turnovers. He

1575
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 2: turned the ball over three times last week against the Vikings.

1576
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 2: Ball control. Don't turn the ball over. You can hang

1577
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 2: with them. Obviously, Detroit's are better team. I think Detroit

1578
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 2: will win, But you don't want to get blown out.

1579
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: That's the key there.

1580
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the main thing, you just want to

1581
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 3: hang with them. You want to play, you want to

1582
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,799
Speaker 3: keep competing, and I think situation is critical for everybody.

1583
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 3: There's a lot of losing that has taken place over

1584
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 3: the last year. You think about the way the team

1585
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 3: collapsed at the end of the year, the way that

1586
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 3: they started this year is certainly been less than stellar

1587
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 3: and less than expectations. But against the Lions, you got

1588
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 3: to put your big boy pants on and compete. And

1589
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 3: for the Lions, this is one where you don't want

1590
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 3: to get complacent or lack of days ago taking on

1591
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 3: an opponent that's struggling. If anything, they should turn up

1592
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 3: the heat, turner the pressure, and in the first quarter

1593
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 3: try to really knock the Jaguars out. The Jaguars have

1594
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 3: lost three close games and their confidence is probably teetering

1595
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 3: on the brink. If you're the lines, you don't want

1596
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 3: to give them any reason to feel like they can

1597
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 3: play and win.

1598
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: So the first quarter be everything.

1599
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 3: You know a lot about this team, both teams, how

1600
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 3: they perform in the first quarter of this game.

1601
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 2: Now, how surprised were you that the Dolphins beat up

1602
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 2: on the Rams last week twenty three to fifteen. But

1603
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 2: if I remember correctly as I tell you, I listened

1604
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 2: to what you say, I think you had the Rams

1605
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 2: winning that game.

1606
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 1: Maybe I might have.

1607
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 3: I think I'm surprised it was like the last stand,

1608
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 3: you know, in terms of the Dolphins, because Dolphins don't

1609
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 3: get that win.

1610
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: Last week is over, season's over is done.

1611
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,879
Speaker 3: The motivation that kind of play play out the string changes,

1612
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 3: but that gives them life, that puts them back on

1613
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 3: what we call the graphic where they have an opportunity

1614
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 3: to potentially get into the postseason. So now, yeah, you

1615
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 3: got a team that's willing to bring a dogfight, so

1616
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 3: it should be interesting to see how it goes. But

1617
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 3: the Dolphins have a lot of talent, and they're taken

1618
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 3: on a Raiders team that is trying to find itself

1619
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 3: after dumping their entire offensive staff and North Turner and

1620
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 3: Scott Turner taken over at the controls.

1621
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 2: Right You've got the Rams at the Patriots today, so

1622
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 2: you can lick your chops a little bit going against

1623
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 2: the Patriots. With Patriots right now, I think all they

1624
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 2: really have offensively is from Andre Stevenson. But here's the

1625
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 2: question right now, can the Rams stop him? You know,

1626
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 2: can the Rams stop him in that run game? Okay,

1627
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 2: the Rams run against New England? Can they do that?

1628
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean this Rams team, I mean,

1629
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 2: I give them the benefit of the doubt because that

1630
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 2: had a lot of injuries, a lot of injuries early

1631
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 2: on with their receivers. But right now, they got to

1632
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 2: get a running game going. That's the key right there.

1633
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying the Patriots are going to beat him,

1634
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 2: but I think they're going to struggle. I think that

1635
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 2: Patriots will hank with them a little bit, maybe for

1636
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 2: two three quarters in that ball game today.

1637
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1638
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 3: No, the Patriots give them credit like they've done really

1639
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 3: good job of battling back.

1640
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: We've seen the last couple of weeks that they've shown.

1641
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 3: They've shown a resilience and a toughness about him since

1642
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 3: let's be honest, Jerrod Mayo called him out. He remember

1643
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 3: he said that the team was soft. But they've responded.

1644
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 3: They've also given more opportunities to the young quarterback Drake

1645
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 3: may He's shown that he can step up and lead

1646
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 3: the team. And look, man, you just got to give

1647
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 3: them credit for continuing about to continue to find ways

1648
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 3: to stay in there with a team that on paper

1649
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,719
Speaker 3: does not look like one of the more talented teams

1650
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 3: in the lastional football.

1651
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: Okay, you talk about teams that aren't talented. I mean,

1652
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 2: this is one of the biggest disappointments of the year.

1653
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 2: I think in the National Football League. The Cleveland Browns

1654
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 2: at two and seven, they're going against the team that's

1655
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 2: three and seven in New Orleans, stay of the Saints.

1656
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody expected the Saints to do much.

1657
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 2: But the Browns playing against the Saints. What the Browns

1658
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 2: need is that running back Nick Chubb to get going.

1659
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously he's been out coming back and maybe

1660
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 2: he lost it. Is that a possibility that Nick Chubb

1661
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 2: is not going to be the Nick Chubb of old

1662
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 2: can't do it anymore?

1663
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 3: I think with Nick Chubb, like normally, when it comes

1664
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 3: to bouncing back from an acl situation, it takes two years.

1665
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 3: It takes two years for you to fully feel comfortable

1666
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 3: and confident that you can do the things that you

1667
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 3: previously used to do. How he gets how long it

1668
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 3: takes him to get going, It is only something that

1669
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 3: he can control.

1670
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: But if you're the.

1671
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 3: Browns, you're trying to get him going, You're trying to

1672
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 3: give him more carriers, You're trying to get him knocked

1673
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 3: the rust off, and you hope that he can be

1674
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 3: the Nick Chub that has really helped kind of carry

1675
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 3: this offense for the last few years. Talented player, and

1676
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 3: with what they have going on at quarterback, they need

1677
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:32,759
Speaker 3: him to be the guy that is destrawed it stirs

1678
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 3: to drink. We'll see if he can handle all that depends.

1679
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 2: No doubt about that he could do it today because

1680
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,600
Speaker 2: New Orleans has one of the worst run defenses in

1681
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 2: the league. They've allowed one hundred and eighty or more

1682
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,839
Speaker 2: rushing you watch in three of the last five games.

1683
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 2: And the Saints they're coming together a little bit right now.

1684
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 2: I gotta believe they are. They won last week against Atlanta,

1685
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 2: which is a shaker. They haven't turned the ball over

1686
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 2: in three weeks. Don't turn the ball over. That's the key.

1687
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 2: That's the key Staton in football right now. Turnovers right now, now,

1688
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,679
Speaker 2: takeaways at the Browns quarterback Jamis Wilson, he threw three

1689
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 2: interceptions in their last game before the bye. All right,

1690
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 2: and people are telling me right now it's a grudge game.

1691
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 2: But Jameis wins is coming back. It's not a grudge game. Blame.

1692
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 2: It's all about talent. I mean, right, am, I right

1693
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 2: about that grudge game? I mean, really, forget it. I mean,

1694
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 2: you're scraping for something to talk or right about if

1695
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 2: you're saying this is a grudge game for Jamis Winston.

1696
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 2: The team is freaking two and seven. How can it

1697
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:27,759
Speaker 2: be a grudge game?

1698
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, I mean it may be a

1699
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 3: grids game for him, not for the rest of the team.

1700
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 3: But a great game in terms of like you're being

1701
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 3: very personal to him to make sure that he represented

1702
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 3: does things the right way. But look, man, all that stuff,

1703
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 3: all that outside emotion and stuff like, all this stuff

1704
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 3: is cooled until you get into the game. You gotta

1705
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 3: play like it comes down to execution over emotion.

1706
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: And so if you execute, you win. If you don't,

1707
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 1: you go home.

1708
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 2: It's pretty simple, right, and it's gonna be New Orleans today.

1709
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 2: They're gonna win. All right, we'll live for the tire

1710
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 2: rack dot Com studios. He's Bucket Brooks and Andy Furman

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Speaker 2: Bucky right around the ben. It's about ten minutes now

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Speaker 2: let's get it going as Bucky is that time here

1718
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 2: we go? All right, Buck, Jake, Paul, Mike Tyson, the fight?

1719
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 2: Were you in or out? Did you watch the fight?

1720
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the fight? Right now? Because I'm glad

1721
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 2: I didn't watch it because all people saw was buffering

1722
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 2: from Netflix. It was all about buffering.

1723
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: I did not watch the fight. I was not in

1724
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 1: on it.

1725
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 3: I was more worried about it because Mike Tyson last

1726
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 3: couple of times he's fought, I mean, like going all

1727
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 3: the way back. He yet he had been losing. So now,

1728
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 3: a fifty eight year old version of sixty year version

1729
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 3: of Mike Tyson. As much as we live in the

1730
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 3: nostalgic past, it was gonna be hard for Mike Tyson

1731
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 3: to be a twenty something year old guy.

1732
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: And what we saw or what.

1733
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 3: The highlight showed, certainly not what anyone should have wanted

1734
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 3: to see. Mike Tyson taken on Jake Paul, but it

1735
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 3: made a bunch of money, which is all good.

1736
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 2: Twenty mili I think Tyson got on that fight. But

1737
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 2: you know, here's my question. A lot of people will

1738
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 2: complain it because Netflix was messed up big time and

1739
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 2: there's a lot of buffering going on. Do people get

1740
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 2: their money back from that? I don't know. I doubt it.

1741
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 2: I don't think no.

1742
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 1: We'll we'll do better next time. That's the only thing

1743
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: that you.

1744
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 2: Can do from all right, Georgia head football coach Kirby Smart.

1745
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 2: He addressed a video of backup safety Jake Pope celebrating

1746
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 2: on the field after the Bulldogs lost to Ole miss

1747
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 2: List Week twenty eight ten. Okay, he called him, what

1748
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 2: an idiot? I mean, he's just playing stupid. This is

1749
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 2: what Kirby Smart said about this kid on his team.

1750
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 2: Your comments about a coach saying that and it goes public,

1751
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 2: goes viral.

1752
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it was stupid.

1753
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 3: The dude is on You're on the team, they got beat,

1754
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 3: but you're celebrating with the opposing fans, even if those

1755
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 3: but are your.

1756
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 1: High school buddies or whatever. That is stupid. So I'm

1757
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: mad at he be Smart for telling the truth.

1758
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 3: It was a stupid move by a player who your

1759
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 3: lawyerty and allegiance should be for your team, not the

1760
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 3: other team.

1761
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 2: Celebrate with him after the game with something like that.

1762
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 2: But I'm not right on the field there, they was stupid.

1763
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 2: All right. Let's talk about the Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean

1764
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 2: they're rocking and rolling right now, playing their first division

1765
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 2: foe today in Baltimore. Do they sneak in the top

1766
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 2: five of NFL teams we're looking at maybe Kansas City

1767
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 2: number one. You took me into it because I thought

1768
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 2: it was the Detroit Lions, But since they haven't lost

1769
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 2: the game, I'm going to go with you. Kansas City one,

1770
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions two, Ravens Bills. Are the Steelers right there?

1771
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 2: What about the Eagles and Commanders? What do you think?

1772
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 2: Are there Steelers in the top five?

1773
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: I think so?

1774
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 3: I think I think we got to get Andy to

1775
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 3: start paying attention to Bucky's top ten every week to

1776
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 3: see that where I have the Steelers ranked, and were

1777
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 3: the Stellers ranked right now?

1778
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 1: I got them three?

1779
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 3: I got the can City, the Chiefs, the Detroit Lions,

1780
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers, Buffalo, and the Minnesota Vikings. So yeah,

1781
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers should be in there. Make sure you

1782
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 3: check out the top ten rankings on Friday. I know,

1783
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 3: I know, no, no, no, no, that's about that for box sports.

1784
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 3: We're talking about on Mondays and Tuesdays. Got top ten?

1785
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 3: Got checked that out? Andy?

1786
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 2: All right, okay, I've been looking at the NFL dot

1787
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 2: com on Friday. That's right, all right, here we got

1788
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 2: let's talk about the New York Jets. They're hurting right now,

1789
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 2: But how much hurt and they're losing season almost will

1790
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 2: that hurt that quarterback Aaron Rodgers on his legacy and

1791
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 2: maybe even the Hall of Fame chances.

1792
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,919
Speaker 3: Now, I won't impact his Hall of Fame chances, his legacy.

1793
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 3: I think everybody knows that he can.

1794
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: Be a little much.

1795
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 3: So if anything, there's a little confirmation that he is

1796
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 3: a little much when it comes to deal with But

1797
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 3: now I won't have any long term effects on the

1798
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 3: way that people view him.

1799
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 2: Okay, he won't be a first ballot Hall of Fame,

1800
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 2: but I don't think what do you think I'm that?

1801
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: Oh he's first ballot?

1802
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 2: Is he really? Okay? Well, you do agree that he's

1803
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,839
Speaker 2: not a great leader and not a great team player.

1804
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, now that's I'm one hundred percent. He's not a

1805
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 3: great team player, not a great leader. I think we've

1806
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 3: seen that in full of fit this time around.

1807
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 1: There we go.

1808
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: Now, Bucket Brooks tells you why this team refuses to

1809
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 2: lose data Moore where right here? I'm fought next?

1810
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 4: Oh, yes, welcome in another beautiful Fox football Sunday morning begins,

1811
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 4: or I guess it continues. As I entered the Fray

1812
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 4: kind of like a six man tag matcher. I'm just

1813
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 4: the guy crashing the ring with the steel chair, whatever

1814
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 4: the case may be. Welcome in. It's Fox Football son

1815
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 4: named Mike Carmen joining the fray with my guys broadcasting

1816
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 4: legend Andy Furman, and I got Bucky Brooks over there

1817
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:35,799
Speaker 4: as well. You've heard them chopping it up this morning.

1818
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 4: I was in the car driving in and going. I

1819
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 4: would like to allow me to retort on some of those,

1820
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 4: so you know, now I get the opportunity to open

1821
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 4: the big microphone. Well, one of the big things. It

1822
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 4: came down to you guys, rivalry, rivalry discussion, and as

1823
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 4: the resident Chicago Bears honk alongside my guy Mark Ramsey

1824
01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 4: behind the ones and twos there. I don't know that

1825
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 4: I've ever heard less talk about Bears Packers in a

1826
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 4: week leading up to a game in my life, because

1827
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 4: there's so many other fires and dumpsters rolling down the

1828
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 4: Chicago Rivers right now that the actual game for this

1829
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 4: Sunday is such an afterthought. With eber Fluse, the Waldron firing,

1830
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 4: what's wrong with Caleb? What about the offensive line? Does

1831
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 4: dj More is the agent saboteur? Is Tyson Bagen's dad

1832
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 4: a bad guy all, like, these are all storylines ahead

1833
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,560
Speaker 4: of Hey, by the way, the Packers are here on Sunday.

1834
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 4: We got ourselves a game that we need to play,

1835
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 4: so yes historically and made me think about, you know,

1836
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 4: the ownership and how Jordan Love has at least the

1837
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 4: title his being transferred to him and all of those things.

1838
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 4: But it was just one of those discussion ones, Like

1839
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 4: over the course of the week, my brothers and I

1840
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 4: were talking about it as well. It's like it doesn't

1841
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 4: have the feel for that normal big game that you're

1842
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 4: jumping into even this week, right because we've got too

1843
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 4: great visional matchups for teams that haven't played in Division.

1844
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 4: The Bears haven't played a Division game yet. This is

1845
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 4: the beginning of it in week eleven. But it just

1846
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 4: feels like there are so many windmills they're battling that

1847
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 4: this game is an afterthought. And Bucky, you know that.

1848
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 4: The fact that we're at that point and in a

1849
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 4: week eleven of a season, I don't know. I got

1850
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,520
Speaker 4: I got a little bit sad because.

1851
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 6: Stop raining on Bucky's parade. I mean, no, I'm not

1852
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 6: saying he's wrong historically. All I'm saying is for this

1853
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 6: particular week, it hasn't had the gravity, and that makes

1854
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 6: me sad because at least there was hate watching of

1855
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 6: the Packers for years and now it's all right, let's

1856
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 6: see what's happening on our sideline instead of the game itself.

1857
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 2: I'll defend that statement because simply because there's games I

1858
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 2: Chief bills Seahawks forty nine as the raven Steelers, which

1859
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 2: maybe overshadow that in the scheme of the schedule I'm

1860
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 2: not even talking about.

1861
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 4: But but Andy, I'm talking in the city of Chicago.

1862
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 4: I'm talking in the hometown and for people that followed

1863
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 4: the team that this didn't even eight And your point, yes,

1864
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 4: it is a great slate for some of those rivalry games. Right,

1865
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 4: We're probably not gonna have Kittle later on for this

1866
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 4: forty nine or Seahawks affair. There's a lot of swirling parts,

1867
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 4: but it's just, you know, that strange convergence of circumstance

1868
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 4: that takes the game off the field and makes it

1869
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:23,679
Speaker 4: all about the headlines. And you know, I guess where

1870
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 4: I'm at as a whole. And I had carry Rhodes

1871
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 4: in with me for Jason Smith on Friday and I

1872
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 4: looked at him. I said, if you gave a letter

1873
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 4: grade to the NFL at this point, and you gotta

1874
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 4: you gotta include all thirty two teams. We can't just

1875
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 4: talk about the Chiefs for a moment, or you know,

1876
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 4: the the rise of the Steelers or what the Buffalo

1877
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 4: Bills are doing. If you grab it all in, what

1878
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 4: do we have to see a D when we talk

1879
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 4: about pre snap penalties and overall quarterback play and stuff.

1880
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 4: And he just smiled at me, and I'm like, you gotta,

1881
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 4: you gotta give me something audible there he goes, Yeah,

1882
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 4: probably a D.

1883
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1884
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 3: Now here's what I say about the Bear stuff. I

1885
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:02,719
Speaker 3: think the Bears stuff this week is such a distraction

1886
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 3: only in terms of not being able to get the

1887
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 3: headlines that it.

1888
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 1: Deserves the Bears Packers.

1889
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 3: It's just because of the dumpster fire that was the

1890
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,480
Speaker 3: firing of Shane Waltron.

1891
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: No, he's my guy. Oh no, we fired him. Oh

1892
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 1: we're elevating this. Oh.

1893
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 3: Keenan Allen says, And here's what I always tell you

1894
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:19,919
Speaker 3: guys about players.

1895
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 1: Man.

1896
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 3: Players are like water man. They flow to the path

1897
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 3: of least resistance. And so Keen Allen, you know, he

1898
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 3: probably should have been a little harder.

1899
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 1: On a SAT training camp Hill's account.

1900
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 3: What well, if you know that, mister Allen, why not

1901
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 3: hold your teammates accountable to a higher standard. Why do

1902
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 3: we need the coach to hold us to a standard

1903
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 3: of those things?

1904
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 1: You know?

1905
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 3: And then all the other stuff people talking about Shane

1906
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 3: Waldern not being great or whatever it was, he was

1907
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 3: the pick, and I don't know. I just think it

1908
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 3: has put the Bears in a bad light when it

1909
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 3: comes to picking coaches and figuring out who they are.

1910
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 3: And Matt Everflu certainly doesn't look good and.

1911
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: All of this.

1912
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,679
Speaker 3: I just wonder where do we go from here? Because

1913
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 3: the next sexy coaching candidate like Matt Naggy, So didn't

1914
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 3: they go and get Eberflus for defense? That means they'll

1915
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 3: probably go back to offense. I just don't know where

1916
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 3: to Bears go from here.

1917
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 2: I don't think they know either.

1918
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 1: No.

1919
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 4: I think that's the billion dollar or multi billion dollar

1920
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 4: question as it is in Chicago, right, so long as

1921
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:25,759
Speaker 4: you've got Allis McCaskey. Look, there's a discussion of whether

1922
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 4: Eberflus actually is on the books for another two years.

1923
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 2: Didn't we're concerned about getting a new stadium and moving

1924
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,679
Speaker 2: out of Chicago then winning football games.

1925
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 4: I really believe, well, some of it is the finance

1926
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 4: of it all, Andy, I mean we've discussed it before.

1927
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 4: I mean it's owned by the Park District. They have

1928
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 4: no control. So when they have a bunch of big

1929
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 4: concerts like say the Rolling Stones are there for three days,

1930
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 4: or David Gilmour or Pearl Jam or a Pearl Jam

1931
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 4: goes to Wrigley Field, but whoever shows up, say Taylor

1932
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 4: Swift plays a couple of dates there, Guess what, they

1933
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,679
Speaker 4: don't see a dime and they're tired of looking around

1934
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 4: the rest of the NFL. It's like these guys are

1935
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 4: making millions and millions of dollars off stuff that have

1936
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 4: nothing to do with our team, and they're losing out

1937
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 4: because it's all Park Park District, and they get the

1938
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 4: residual effect of that field is trash because they use

1939
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 4: it for tractor polls and monster trucks Friday Friday Friday,

1940
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 4: you know, high school football game, soccer games, you name it.

1941
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 4: They play on that field and then the Bears have

1942
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 4: a by the way, good luck with that, good luck

1943
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 4: getting the field and condition. Hey Bucky.

1944
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 1: You know this.

1945
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,759
Speaker 4: I mean, isn't it always ranked one of the bottom

1946
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 4: three surfaces to play on in the National Football League?

1947
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 4: And that goes back to Veteran Stadium and some of

1948
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 4: these other train wrecks we've seen.

1949
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:42,839
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Steel is crying about it because the University

1950
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 2: of Pittsburgh plays at the same ballpark as they do

1951
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 2: on Saturday, and they play on Sunday.

1952
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 4: Well, maybe they've actually figured out how to do it properly.

1953
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 4: Maybe the Bears can't figure out some best practices.

1954
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the money is really everything when it

1955
01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 3: comes to it, right, It's the money factor. You're not

1956
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 3: making money off the other stuff. That is a driver,

1957
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 3: you know. And unlike some of these team owners, right,

1958
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 3: the Bears are the family business, you know what I'm saying.

1959
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 3: Like the mccaskey's, I think they made their money from

1960
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 3: the Bears. It wasn't like they were wealthy before that.

1961
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 3: The Bears valuation has driven the wealth and much like

1962
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 3: the Bengals any that you can relate to, they need

1963
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 3: the team's money to be wealthy.

1964
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:31,600
Speaker 1: And because yeah, football.

1965
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 3: Is the thing, and so for the Bears, like being

1966
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 3: a mom and pop thing, they need the mom and

1967
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 3: pop thing to go really well so they can cash

1968
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 3: out and they haven't been able to do it without

1969
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:42,719
Speaker 3: the extra benefit of the concerts and the other things

1970
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 3: that people do to continue to keep the money.

1971
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: I mean, we laugh.

1972
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 3: We talked about Jake Paul and Mike Tyson, but where

1973
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 3: was that hell at at and t Stitdney who had

1974
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 3: his fist out, his hand out when it came you,

1975
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 3: old mister monopoly man.

1976
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, please stay two hundred passing by go you

1977
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: know what, That's what happened.

1978
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 4: And I have no doubt that a lot of those

1979
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 4: celebrities that they showed on camera got compensated to be there.

1980
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 4: Guess what it wasn't coming out of Jerry Jones' guit right.

1981
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 4: So yeah, But for the bears, I mean, and we

1982
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 4: know this just operationally, Andy Iman, you're watching in Cincinnati,

1983
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 4: all the running jokes that were about, hey, you know,

1984
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 4: vending machines or whatever, catering services and all of those

1985
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 4: kind of things. It becomes the if I don't have

1986
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:29,560
Speaker 4: to worry about I could change fundamentally how my business operates.

1987
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 4: I if I'm one that always makes a guy look

1988
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 4: even if we're suffering with him, We're gonna ride out

1989
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:39,520
Speaker 4: the rest of his contract. Suddenly, if I've got ancillary

1990
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,679
Speaker 4: you know, revenue streams, right, they're paying me off. Hey,

1991
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 4: the parking from that concert paid out this great, that's

1992
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 4: half this guy's salary. I may be more likely to

1993
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 4: make a change to try to help my team right

1994
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 4: now as opposed to you know, this two shell pass

1995
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 4: because we're still on the hook for this money. So

1996
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 4: like philosophically and that you know that that goes back

1997
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 4: to organizational stuff I heard you guys talking about, and

1998
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 4: I think it's one hundred percent you know, right, you know,

1999
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 4: as you both laid out like longevity, history and flow

2000
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 4: and how many organizations could we really rank in the

2001
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 4: NFL that operate that way?

2002
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 1: Stealers?

2003
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 4: Right, it's few. It's Kansas City, it's it's Green Bay,

2004
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 4: it's Baltimore, it's Pittsburgh. It's right now. Well, but that's

2005
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 4: operating poorly. They have a system, but I wouldn't hold

2006
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 4: it up as the benchmark at Homemark, even though they

2007
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 4: now have the death Star, which suddenly makes you flush

2008
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 4: with cash. Hey, we're broadcasting live from the tirak dot

2009
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 4: com studios. Tiract dot Com will help you get there

2010
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,599
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2011
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 4: over ten thousand recommended installers tirac dot com The way

2012
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 4: tire buying should be. I just remember when they added

2013
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 4: that toilet bowl over the top of Soldier Field. I

2014
01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 4: pulled over on Lake Shore Drive. It was my first

2015
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 4: time I'm back home in Chicago after it was actually constructed,

2016
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 4: and I may have shed a tear like that might

2017
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 4: have been That might have been the death of little

2018
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 4: Mikey Harmon right there, that reality of what did they

2019
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:13,799
Speaker 4: do to this great And they're like, no, the posts

2020
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 4: and pillars and everything are still there. I'm like, yeah,

2021
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:18,679
Speaker 4: but it's under a thing that's either beckoning our alien

2022
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 4: overlords or it's literally a toilet bowl off some concept

2023
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 4: art that somebody sold a bunch of people was a

2024
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 4: good idea.

2025
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 2: Did you ever go to a Bears game when they

2026
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 2: played at Wrigley Field?

2027
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, I mean I've seen it all right, the

2028
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 4: different configurations for college football for pro football. I mean,

2029
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 4: I'm not old enough to where it was a regularity,

2030
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 4: but they still did some exhibitions and stuff.

2031
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 2: Oh now play there yesterday.

2032
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:48,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it was a great Ohio State crowd. Hey,

2033
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 4: we had the lead into the second quarter, so I mean,

2034
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 4: you know, moral victories to it all until that guy

2035
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 4: tried to do a I don't know, an ankle lock

2036
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 4: on guy after a tackle. That might have been one

2037
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 4: of the strangers things I've seen in recent memory. But yeah,

2038
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 4: you know, put up a decent fight. I think I've

2039
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 4: got some issues with the university and some policies and

2040
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 4: procedures as a whole that i'd like explained to me

2041
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 4: a little bit differently, football included as they change up.

2042
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 4: Still lawsuits pending and all. But you know, it was

2043
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 4: a good spectacle early in the morning from Wrigley Field,

2044
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 4: and as soon as folks start breaking down the game

2045
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 4: and telling you where the which way the wind's blowing

2046
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 4: out like you're playing a baseball game. Thought it was

2047
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 4: kind of funny. Hey, Win's out of the southeast at

2048
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 4: sixteen miles an hour or whatever the report was. Makes

2049
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 4: it entertaining, But we had that full slate. Bucky, you

2050
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 4: bring up the Paul Tyson fight. I know you guys

2051
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 4: probably hotly debated it. Put a pin in it. Who

2052
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 4: does Jake Paul fight next? I'm sure you've seen the memes.

2053
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 4: Do we just get those guys in the w W

2054
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:50,639
Speaker 4: E ring at this point.

2055
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 3: I mean some old guy, somebody that that is washed

2056
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 3: up or whatever. I would give Jake Paul this. Jake

2057
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 3: Paul is a money maker. I mean, he understands how

2058
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 3: to make money. He is just printing out the stuff.

2059
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 3: The fact that people are paying to see an amateur

2060
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 3: fight these old guys is baffling to me.

2061
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:16,759
Speaker 1: But it works. It's working for him, and he's casting

2062
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 1: it out.

2063
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 3: And the only time he fought somebody that was legitimate,

2064
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:20,879
Speaker 3: he lost Tommy Fury.

2065
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 1: So I mean, if people want.

2066
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:25,120
Speaker 3: To give up eighty dollars to see Jake Paul fight,

2067
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 3: then old and decrepit Mike Tyson Man, hats off to him.

2068
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 1: I can't hate the player.

2069
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 4: Oh and that was the beautiful thing here, right is

2070
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,680
Speaker 4: if you were at home in a two hundred and

2071
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 4: eighty million homes already subscribed to Netflix, they claimed sixty

2072
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:41,640
Speaker 4: five million people were tapped in at its peak. We

2073
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 4: were on Aaron. We didn't know what was live or

2074
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 4: memorys because we had well because we had no sound

2075
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 4: in the studio. Yeah, So as Kerry Rhodes and I

2076
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:50,640
Speaker 4: are sitting there trying to watch it. I'm like, all right,

2077
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 4: it's round two. We walk into the other side, it's like,

2078
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 4: oh yeah, it's round five, Like hello. But we had

2079
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 4: no idea, right because all like, if it's stuck on

2080
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 4: the tail of the tape, we wouldn't know. We were

2081
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:05,679
Speaker 4: just thinking they were vamping and filibustering, waiting for someone

2082
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 4: to come out to the ring, when in fact we'd

2083
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 4: already missed a round and a half of action.

2084
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 2: We talked about that. That crazy if I was buffering.

2085
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of problems.

2086
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, it's up there for you to

2087
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 4: stream now if you want to go back ahead of

2088
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 4: your NFL date, Andy, you don't have any of those

2089
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 4: pesky Germany or England games this morning.

2090
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 2: All right.

2091
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 4: One of the stories that hit the wire this week,

2092
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 4: and it's one of the big games that you mentioned, Andy, Andy,

2093
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 4: and maybe maybe you guys hit this up a little

2094
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 4: bit earlier, but the fact that in the middle of

2095
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 4: the season you have the Seattle Center up and retired

2096
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,719
Speaker 4: seven year veteran coming back off a big knee injury,

2097
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 4: which they say didn't have anything to do with it,

2098
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 4: but Connor Williams, you know, it walks away. We see

2099
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 4: a million different permutations of things that happened to locker rooms.

2100
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 4: But Bucky, you know, if something like that happens, what

2101
01:33:57,520 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 4: does that do in a locker room? A guy who

2102
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 4: was a star and a lynchpin, do you know your

2103
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 4: offensive line?

2104
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 3: Look, it appeared that they had been working through this

2105
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:11,520
Speaker 3: issue for quite a while in terms of having conversations

2106
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 3: with him whatever.

2107
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 1: I think it's important for us to understand.

2108
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 3: Connor Williams has had a series of things that he's

2109
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 3: dealt with throughout his time in the league, mental health

2110
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 3: being one of those where he's kind of come in

2111
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 3: and out.

2112
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 1: He talked about being bullied as a.

2113
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 3: Youngster, two ACL injuries and all the other stuff that

2114
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:30,639
Speaker 3: comes along with that. He was only nine months removed

2115
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 3: from his last ACL injury, and you just don't know

2116
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 3: what that had on him, psyche, particularly because he wasn't

2117
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 3: playing great. He was struggling, maybe more than he ever had. Look, man,

2118
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 3: it puts the team in a bad thing, But you

2119
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 3: can't make somebody stay and play.

2120
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 4: Sure.

2121
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 3: You know, ultimately, whenever a player starts talking about retiring,

2122
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 3: they already retired.

2123
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 1: Into mind, Yeah, I don't.

2124
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 2: Know what the deal is. He wasn't playing well. He

2125
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 2: had a couple of snaps that went over to you know,

2126
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 2: Smith's head when he was playing. I mean, come on,

2127
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 2: when they played the Buffalo, I think earlier this year

2128
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:04,560
Speaker 2: did he snap the bullling over Gino's head. So he

2129
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 2: wasn't ready. He knew, you know, one of those time.

2130
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 2: But when you played, I mean you you just knew, say,

2131
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 2: you know, I think it's I think it's time.

2132
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 3: You just know, yeah, you know, you know on the field,

2133
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 3: when your mind goes to a different place, you know,

2134
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 3: you know it's time to let it go to get out. Sure,

2135
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,479
Speaker 3: and so for him, he certainly knew that it was time.

2136
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 3: It's unfortunate though, unfortunate for the team. But they'll they'll

2137
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 3: figure it out. They'll play a young guy and then

2138
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 3: they'll keep moving.

2139
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 1: You guys, think about the league. The train keeps on moving.

2140
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:41,759
Speaker 4: No, that's it right. It may experience a little extra

2141
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 4: delay at one of the stops, may may change up

2142
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 4: some timing, but certainly there uh, they'll get back after it.

2143
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 4: Just it was one of those headlines that kind of

2144
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 4: slid in and slid back out because we get into

2145
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 4: some of these rivalry games. Mark shot me the note

2146
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 4: with the astute point of hey, if the Bears actually

2147
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 4: would win one of these games, I could totally tell

2148
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:04,600
Speaker 4: he was really angry as he texted that. Not a

2149
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 4: lot of Capitol letter guys, but still just a yeah,

2150
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 4: if we won one of these games in the last

2151
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 4: thirty years of my life, this would help National Football

2152
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 4: League at its best. Week eleven, we're already one game

2153
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 4: in the books. Eagles starting to maybe assert themselves a

2154
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 4: little bit down the stretch. Does that allow us to

2155
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 4: back off any fire? Nick Sirianni talk Andy Furman, You

2156
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 4: know what.

2157
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 2: The wreck is could be his saving grace. I mean,

2158
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 2: a lot of people think they win despite him. He's

2159
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 2: a gamble, he's a riverboat gambler. You know, as long

2160
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 2: as they win, everybody's in. The status quo is there,

2161
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 2: and the fans are not going to push it. I

2162
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 2: believe that a lot of times coaches get fired, no

2163
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 2: matter what the sports is, because they satisfy not only

2164
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,599
Speaker 2: the media, but the fan base. Because remember, the fan

2165
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 2: base is the one that pays to watch them play.

2166
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 2: And if the fans starts stopping and yelling and screaming,

2167
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 2: you know, that's a big fact that it could be

2168
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 2: a big loss, So they do that for the fan,

2169
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:03,680
Speaker 2: don't you agree. I mean, certainly, if a coach is

2170
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 2: gonna get fighted, he'll get fired because he lost a

2171
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 2: lot of games. If we lose a lot of games,

2172
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:09,679
Speaker 2: fans are gonna stay away. But you know, to fire

2173
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 2: a coach in midstream doesn't make any sense because it's

2174
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 2: not gonna change things. You know, the coaches get fired,

2175
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 2: Like when the Jets fired their coach at the five weeks.

2176
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, they knew in July they were

2177
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 2: gonna fire him, right, Why wait till five weeks? Do

2178
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:28,919
Speaker 2: it before the season? Five weeks messes the seas up completely.

2179
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 2: It's silly, it really is.

2180
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 1: I mean, out look, I don't know.

2181
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 3: I just think all of it is like when you know,

2182
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 3: you know, and if they already knew that it wasn't

2183
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 3: gonna be a fit man, let him go, Like what

2184
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 3: are you doing? You know, like, just go ahead and

2185
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:50,600
Speaker 3: bite the bullet, be done with it and let's move on.

2186
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:54,719
Speaker 4: Well, I thought maybe year two with Aaron Rodgers actually

2187
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 4: playing some of the drama would go off and his

2188
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 4: defensive acumen would work. And it was a lot of

2189
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 4: ifs and butts and a lot of wishing. It's kind

2190
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 4: of like you were walking down and look, it's the

2191
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 4: obvious tie. I'm not being paid to do it. Every

2192
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,680
Speaker 4: time I look up, I got Ariana Grande's face and

2193
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 4: staring at me because of the Wicked movie coming out. Man,

2194
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 4: you're going down the yellow brick road. Gotta go see

2195
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 4: the Wizard, right, the old Brian Cox Gotta go see

2196
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 4: the Wizard and get some heart. But that's kind of

2197
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 4: what we're talking about here with the Jets. Like I

2198
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 4: think it was, well, we already seeded control to Aaron Rodgers,

2199
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:30,800
Speaker 4: so what the hell's the difference? Let this guy stay

2200
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 4: as the head coach for another year.

2201
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 2: Last week it was the Raiders came to Cincinnati. They

2202
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:37,240
Speaker 2: played the Bengals, and the Bengals beat them. After the game,

2203
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 2: they fired three coaches the Raiders. What does that do

2204
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 2: at this point in time. It's not gonna change things.

2205
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,599
Speaker 4: They brought in Door of Turner though. Come on, but

2206
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 4: there's gonna make you a hero.

2207
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 2: It's silly, it really is. It's an emotional move, that's

2208
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:54,640
Speaker 2: what it is. And it satisfies the fan base that

2209
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:56,800
Speaker 2: are crazy. That's what it does. Really.

2210
01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Bill Belichick actually talked about that a bunch early year,

2211
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 4: in the week he did his appearance with Pat McAfee

2212
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:05,639
Speaker 4: and was talking about that goes back to his time

2213
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:08,719
Speaker 4: in Cleveland when he was getting notes from above about

2214
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 4: how terrible the defensive coordinator was under him, and it

2215
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 4: was Nick Saban in terms of the does this guy

2216
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:18,600
Speaker 4: even no defense? Which is kind of funny. Any referenced

2217
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:20,599
Speaker 4: some of the things he would get back and forth

2218
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 4: from Craft and how difficult it got down the final

2219
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 4: years as you start to lose.

2220
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 2: And they're firing college coaches admid stream now, which I

2221
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 2: had never seen in years past. They're doing it now.

2222
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 2: I'm more on a common basis firing college coach a

2223
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:35,719
Speaker 2: midseason silly, well, bucky.

2224
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 4: An extension of the nil and the changing world, right,

2225
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 4: is that if you hold the coach too long, that

2226
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 4: maybe some of those guys with the ease and flow

2227
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 4: of I can go take my talents elsewhere for a

2228
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:51,720
Speaker 4: big nil check. I mean, you do it in reactionary mode,

2229
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:54,040
Speaker 4: perhaps a little more than ever because of the changing

2230
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 4: landscape there.

2231
01:39:56,520 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it's so much different now. The thing is,

2232
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 3: I'm surprised, Well, only a few of those teams can

2233
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:06,759
Speaker 3: do it. When guys are on short term deals because

2234
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:10,639
Speaker 3: the money going to the players makes it very cost

2235
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 3: prohibitive to pay out coaches on bios who aren't working

2236
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:18,639
Speaker 3: for you. So I believe you'll see more guys stay

2237
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 3: longer in jobs where everyone knows, hey man, we need

2238
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 3: to pull the plug. You just can't afford to You

2239
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 3: can't pay ten fifteen million dollars to a coach who's

2240
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:31,799
Speaker 3: not coaching on your team and also play the players

2241
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 3: big time money.

2242
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 1: We will see kind of a.

2243
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:38,600
Speaker 3: Reset in the college landscape in terms of contracts with

2244
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 3: coaches and how coaches are treated when it comes to

2245
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 3: given time to fully see out they're playing.

2246
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:47,640
Speaker 2: Can be interesting in Cincinnati because the fan base is

2247
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 2: not real happy with Scott's Sideafield and they blew on

2248
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 2: last night against the Iowa State. Cincinnati had them and

2249
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 2: they lost thirty four to seventeen. And now they've been

2250
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 2: stuck on five wins for three weeks and they're not

2251
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:00,920
Speaker 2: going to get that bull bit this year. But because

2252
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:03,680
Speaker 2: they got you know, horrendous schedule down the stretch. So

2253
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:07,600
Speaker 2: what do you do? Consincinnati afford to pay out Scott Sadafield,

2254
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 2: pay him off and then bringing a new coach. I

2255
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 2: don't know. It's be tough.

2256
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:12,320
Speaker 4: Andy. How motivated are you?

2257
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:14,320
Speaker 2: I'm very motivated.

2258
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:16,599
Speaker 4: Are you motivated to get him out of out? Because

2259
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 4: I mean there's bake sales. I mean it's the holiday season,

2260
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 4: oh Scott, Yeah, Christmas wrapping parties led by Andy Furman

2261
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 4: that'll raise money.

2262
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:28,639
Speaker 2: No, I'm not a raw rov Cincinnati. I watched him play.

2263
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 2: I go to the games now and again. But you

2264
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 2: know I don't live and die for Cincinnati football. And

2265
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,679
Speaker 2: if I was a booster with big money, I put

2266
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:38,760
Speaker 2: my money elsewhere, then give it to nil. That that

2267
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 2: to me and bucket. You probably agree with me if

2268
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:43,799
Speaker 2: I if I was a multi millionaire and a graduate

2269
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 2: of said school, I don't think I'd be giving out

2270
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 2: paychecks to players. It doesn't make any sense. Not that

2271
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 2: they don't deserve to be paid. I just wouldn't pay him.

2272
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't want to pay him because I'm like,

2273
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 3: so I'm doing the school's bidding right.

2274
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 1: The school wants to play.

2275
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 3: Year, but they're basically they've passed along the costs to

2276
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 3: the to the lumps.

2277
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 4: Of course, that's all it is. How do you put

2278
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:11,800
Speaker 4: the wide receiver in your our lineup.

2279
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:14,600
Speaker 2: They're putting into ticket prices now, the additional prices on

2280
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:15,760
Speaker 2: their tickets for that.

2281
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I mean so it's it's I mean,

2282
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 3: it's it's just a weird it's just a weird deal

2283
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 3: to kind of see it all play out.

2284
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 1: But that's where we are. That's where we are on

2285
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 1: the link.

2286
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 4: But I mean that is that is the cost of

2287
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,720
Speaker 4: doing business though, right, If your your costs go up,

2288
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 4: that gets passed on to somebody.

2289
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 1: I mean, it is that. That is the cost of

2290
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 1: doing business.

2291
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:37,000
Speaker 4: Right, whether it's the ticket price or parking or whatever

2292
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:37,680
Speaker 4: the case is.

2293
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 2: We're streaming games on TV.

2294
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean there.

2295
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:45,200
Speaker 4: Was a lot of anger behind that one. Yes, I

2296
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 4: could feel that capital that was. That was Emperor Palpatine

2297
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 4: kind of anger. That's it. He was coming from a

2298
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 4: place of anger right there, Bucky Brooks said, I think

2299
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 4: that's a good place to put a pin in it.

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01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 4: Andy Furman FSR where you find him on Twitter. Find

2301
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 4: Bucky over at Bucky Brooks reedom NFL dot com. Of

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Speaker 4: course you can see what everybody's got popping on the

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Speaker 4: respective social media pages. Find me over at swallow Dome.

2304
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Speaker 4: As we continue, we've got four games left, Big Week eleven,

2305
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Speaker 4: rivalry games, undefeated teams, and finally some divisional games of consequence.

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Speaker 4: We'll do it all next on Fox Football Sunday. Hey,

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Speaker 4: a blast with you here. Week eleven of the league

2313
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:47,599
Speaker 4: already fellas on the back, the back nine, as they

2314
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 4: would say, creeping towards the holidays, all the highways and byeways,

2315
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:55,160
Speaker 4: trips to Grandma's house and everything literally for me to

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01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 4: go see my mom and dad next week. All of

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01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:00,160
Speaker 4: that chaos as we roll through. But we've got some

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01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:03,600
Speaker 4: games of note later on today, including a bit of

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01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 4: a surprise in the AFC West. So why don't we

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01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:10,600
Speaker 4: start there, gentlemen, are we ready repped up?

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Speaker 2: Let's go?

2322
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 4: Falcon said Broncos. All right, Broncos, the narrow two point

2323
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 4: favorite at home forty four and a half. Your total

2324
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:20,759
Speaker 4: lingering in the background can Sean Payton, get this team

2325
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 4: into a wild card slot. I kind of have that

2326
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 4: in italics. New Orleans took down the Falcons in Week ten,

2327
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:29,760
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen. You know they fired their coach. Get the

2328
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:32,639
Speaker 4: raw rod from the veterans, all of that stuff. Bijon

2329
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 4: Robinson with a big game in the loss. Kirk Cousins

2330
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 4: was shut out for just the second time this year.

2331
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 4: The curiosity for me in this one. Bo Nicks averaging

2332
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 4: twenty nine rushing yards per game. He's got four rushing touchdowns,

2333
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:47,680
Speaker 4: completing about sixty four percent of his pass is just

2334
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:50,400
Speaker 4: ten touchdowns against six picks. But you got the fourth

2335
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 4: best defense in the game for the Broncos. Then they

2336
01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 4: get after quarterbacks. But Captain Kirk has been really good

2337
01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 4: under pressure, with first in yards per day attempt and

2338
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 4: getting the ball out. Andy Furman, I'll start with you

2339
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 4: can Captain Kirk keep the.

2340
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:08,400
Speaker 2: Falcon No, No, let me tell you about the Broncos.

2341
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:10,960
Speaker 2: And if you followed the game last week, they had

2342
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. They they had beaten the Chiefs last week,

2343
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:15,640
Speaker 2: but that game winning field goal was blocked in the

2344
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 2: last couple of seconds. This is a great team and

2345
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why it's great because of Sean Payton.

2346
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:22,639
Speaker 2: And I love Sean Payton. Why because Sean Payton coach

2347
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 2: to Miami of Ohio and he loves Skyline Chile and

2348
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 2: I sent them a case of Skyline Chiley to get

2349
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 2: him with the radio and Cincinnati years ago. And you

2350
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 2: look at the teams in this National Football League that win,

2351
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,080
Speaker 2: they win because they got great coaches, yet they got

2352
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:36,759
Speaker 2: good personnel. Look at Kansas City, they got great coach.

2353
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:39,679
Speaker 2: Look at Pittsburgh, they got a great coach. Denver, they're

2354
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:42,679
Speaker 2: on their way. He's a great coach. Bad teams. I'm sorry,

2355
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:46,599
Speaker 2: Mike Carmon Chicago. Bad coach, bad coach at Chicago. That's

2356
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:49,719
Speaker 2: what it's all about. I like Denver. I like Sean Payton.

2357
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 2: I like the Broncos. Broncos win today, Bucky, before you go,

2358
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 2: two things. Number one didn't feel like he was just

2359
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 2: hitting someone with the newspaper. Look, bad coach, bad coach.

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01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 4: There is Do you ever get confirmation and video of

2361
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:05,720
Speaker 4: Sean Payton actually consuming said Skyline Chili. I think we

2362
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 4: can make that go viral.

2363
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 2: But he asked for a bit. I said, could you

2364
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 2: want to go on the radio with me? He said,

2365
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:12,400
Speaker 2: you send me some Skyline Chili. Go on that I

2366
01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:13,600
Speaker 2: saw him Ackay's.

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01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:18,040
Speaker 4: Is there a particular brand you recommend, like for me

2368
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 4: to order if I were to want to maybe treat

2369
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 4: some of the guys, Well, we'll have to talk that up,

2370
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:25,800
Speaker 4: all right, Bucky. Back to the game itself, Denver, that

2371
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 4: defense really making some Hay.

2372
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 3: Defense is good advanced, just doing a really good job

2373
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 3: dolling up pressure. Sean Payton offensively is managing bow Nicks

2374
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:34,599
Speaker 3: pretty well.

2375
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 1: The young quarterback is growing right in front of our eye.

2376
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 1: So I dig all of those things that we're saying.

2377
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 3: But the Skyline Chili thing, the love an average just

2378
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 3: just on that. It just makes me wonder, like, just

2379
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 3: from a decision making standpoint, I just don't worry about

2380
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:56,800
Speaker 3: that because any I would say, sober person that's going

2381
01:46:56,840 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 3: to Skyline Chili before ten, I just wonder how that's

2382
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:02,559
Speaker 3: a delicate I.

2383
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:06,799
Speaker 2: Understand it's a little secret. Skyline Chili is the pregame

2384
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 2: meal for the Broncos.

2385
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 4: If you pulled that off like it was like he's

2386
01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 4: making a major announcement and now instead of nil money,

2387
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:19,400
Speaker 4: he's sending Skyline Chili here.

2388
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:21,760
Speaker 1: Bucky, Yeah, that's that's a lot.

2389
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:27,120
Speaker 3: Look, they're really good, like they're better than many of

2390
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 3: us expected to be.

2391
01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:29,360
Speaker 1: So I continue to roll with them.

2392
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 4: All right, nets you like, let's go, chief, said Bill.

2393
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 4: All right, there is the game of the day. You

2394
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:37,200
Speaker 4: guys are talking about it a little bit earlier in

2395
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:40,240
Speaker 4: the show, but the audience always changing. And I jump

2396
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:42,720
Speaker 4: in to stir the pot. Buffalo the narrow one and

2397
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 4: a half to two point favorite forty six your total.

2398
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:48,240
Speaker 4: I believe you know you were talking about good coaches.

2399
01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:52,639
Speaker 4: We channeled the Jeff Goldbloom line out of Jurassic Park.

2400
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:55,519
Speaker 4: All the time, life finds a way. It seems the

2401
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 4: Chiefs do each and every week as well. The Big

2402
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:02,599
Speaker 4: Buffalo winners five straight, three straight regular season games against

2403
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 4: the Chiefs, twenty two wins in their last twenty four

2404
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 4: home dates. No Keon Coleman, Dalton Kin Kaid has banged up.

2405
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:11,640
Speaker 4: I'mari Cooper expected to be back in this one. My

2406
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 4: homes twelve and five against the spread as a road

2407
01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:19,759
Speaker 4: starter or as a starter overall. Here in his history

2408
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:23,040
Speaker 4: ten oh one one against the spread on the road.

2409
01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 4: Here in recent memory. Top ten Defense's top five offense

2410
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:31,720
Speaker 4: Kansas City for all the Warts eleventh in terms of

2411
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 4: offenses production per game twenty four point three, but no

2412
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:38,120
Speaker 4: Harrison Butker either. How much does that rear its head

2413
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:41,200
Speaker 4: in what's expected to be a narrow game in front

2414
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 4: of Bill's mafia Bucky Brooks.

2415
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 3: Look, the loss of a Placeficker is significant because he's

2416
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 3: so money and nails, particularly from fifty plus.

2417
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:52,679
Speaker 1: But the City Chiefs team, they just keep.

2418
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:54,400
Speaker 3: Finding ways to win, so it's hard for me to

2419
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 3: work against him. Even though this would be hailed as

2420
01:48:58,040 --> 01:48:59,320
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bill's Super Bowl.

2421
01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:01,439
Speaker 1: We've seen them win this game in the regular season.

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01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:03,880
Speaker 3: I'm still don't go with the Kansasity Chiefs because they're

2423
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:07,040
Speaker 3: number one until someone shows me that they can knock

2424
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:07,479
Speaker 3: them off.

2425
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:09,960
Speaker 1: Give me the Kansasity Chiefs.

2426
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:12,600
Speaker 4: He went full Rick Flair to be the man. You

2427
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 4: gotta beat the man. Juju Smith Schuster expected to return

2428
01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:17,000
Speaker 4: for the Chiefs.

2429
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 3: And the fireworks are coming.

2430
01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 4: Hey, people have heard of Juju Smith Schuster as opposed

2431
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 4: to some of these other guys he's been tracking out there.

2432
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:32,040
Speaker 4: How dare you mock me, Bucky Brooks or Juju Smith Schuster.

2433
01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 4: That really wasn't about me, That.

2434
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 1: Wasn't I'm just saying. I'm just saying, what.

2435
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:37,639
Speaker 4: Do you think?

2436
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:40,120
Speaker 2: Andy Well? I got to stay steadfast because early on

2437
01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 2: today I told Bucket that Buffalos could have win. And

2438
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:43,599
Speaker 2: let's talk about the Bills right now. Tell you how

2439
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:45,640
Speaker 2: good they are. Last week they beat the Colt and

2440
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:48,320
Speaker 2: then a cult. So they beat the Colts without Amari Cooper,

2441
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:51,679
Speaker 2: without Keenan Coleman, and without Dalton Kin Kate. They can't

2442
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:55,640
Speaker 2: do that against Kansas City without those three guys at

2443
01:49:55,680 --> 01:50:00,640
Speaker 2: full strength. Today, however, I think that the Chiefs have

2444
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:03,639
Speaker 2: been working on a tightrope lately and it's very tough

2445
01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:05,760
Speaker 2: to bet against them. A goal against them, and they

2446
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:09,799
Speaker 2: last week, I'm telling you they should have lost to Denver.

2447
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:12,559
Speaker 2: They had him, the Broncos had him. I think the

2448
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 2: game in Buffalo the Buffalo Bills to be ready today.

2449
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:17,559
Speaker 2: I think Buffalo beats him in a close one, something

2450
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:18,679
Speaker 2: like twenty three to twenty.

2451
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:21,600
Speaker 4: Buffalo Boy, if I had a really mutant soundboard, we

2452
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:23,680
Speaker 4: could have done like forty two different drops in the

2453
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 4: last five minutes, because you could have done the full

2454
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 4: Dennis Green pounding the table. We are who they thought

2455
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 4: they were, and we let about the hook. Going back

2456
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 4: to that great Bears Cardinals game all those years ago.

2457
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:38,520
Speaker 4: But yes, the Chiefs continue one of the great matchups.

2458
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:42,240
Speaker 4: And then I guess we turned our attention to Sunday

2459
01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 4: Night Football, Andy and Bucky. That'll come up next as

2460
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 4: we continue one of the games of the week, another

2461
01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 4: team that has that little flicker of hope, hope being

2462
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 4: the best of things or the most dangerous of things,

2463
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 4: as we know from Shawshank Redemption. We'll talk about that

2464
01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:00,840
Speaker 4: game next as we continue on Fox Football Sunday. Hey,

2465
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 4: welcome back in Fox Sports or radios Fox Football Sunday.

2466
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:06,720
Speaker 4: You know, shortly after the show podcast goes up. If

2467
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:09,920
Speaker 4: you missed Andy of today's show, just check it out

2468
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio Weekends, Fox Football Sunday. You'll find the

2469
01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 4: hours that Andy and Bucky did and then I crashed

2470
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:20,000
Speaker 4: the party this hour. Find it all, Shay, you'll have

2471
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 4: that up for you. Check it out Fox Sports Radio

2472
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:25,719
Speaker 4: wherever you get your podcast. Be sure to follow rate review,

2473
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 4: tell us how pretty we are again. Just search Fox

2474
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:30,559
Speaker 4: Sports Radio where ever you get your podcasts, and you'll

2475
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 4: see the show posted right after we get off the air.

2476
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 4: You want to keep it contact with us during the week,

2477
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 4: many ways to do so, but certainly social media is

2478
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:42,840
Speaker 4: there at Andy Furman FSR. At Bucky Brooks buy me

2479
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:45,720
Speaker 4: over at Swollen Dome. I say it publicly, Andy, I

2480
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 4: always thank you for the mail, you know, the handwritten

2481
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:52,800
Speaker 4: letter and cards and all those things that we did

2482
01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 4: and part of the history and the things my mom

2483
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 4: taught me to do. It's a dying art. I have

2484
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:00,480
Speaker 4: one going back to you, and some of the contents

2485
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 4: either make you laugh or you'll hate me.

2486
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 2: Well, I do send stuff to Bucket. I've been sending

2487
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:09,639
Speaker 2: him to the wrong address. Oh no, yeah, I he's

2488
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:12,880
Speaker 2: sitting in the Jacksonville I've beturned to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

2489
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:14,639
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll forward it to him.

2490
01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 4: Is it just getting held up in a mail room there?

2491
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:17,840
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2492
01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:21,760
Speaker 4: Wow. Wow, that's interesting because we had a bottleneck here

2493
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 4: for a while and then all of a sudden there

2494
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:25,960
Speaker 4: was a giant table full of stuff and I finally

2495
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:26,759
Speaker 4: got all this stuff.

2496
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:31,360
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, I remember the table, the table, the

2497
01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:34,520
Speaker 3: table of the times were all the meal would just

2498
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:35,439
Speaker 3: just kind of sit there.

2499
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,400
Speaker 4: But no, I just want him to know that it's appreciated,

2500
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:41,639
Speaker 4: because I feel loved and in this day and age

2501
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:45,160
Speaker 4: on a Sunday morning. It's all about togetherness and love

2502
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:47,559
Speaker 4: and hope and all that stuff. And that's and that's

2503
01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:50,120
Speaker 4: what I'm preaching here from my bully pulpit at Fox

2504
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 4: Sports Radio. So let's get into the Sunday night game,

2505
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 4: because maybe there you go. Bengals. The offense still cruising

2506
01:52:57,280 --> 01:53:01,400
Speaker 4: along twenty seven a game, sixth in the National Football League.

2507
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:05,000
Speaker 4: Problem is they're also seventh worst and defensive sided thing,

2508
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 4: giving up twenty six point two chargers. For all of

2509
01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 4: the love of the run game, the offense nice meaty

2510
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 4: part of the curve twenty if guys twenty points six

2511
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:17,759
Speaker 4: points per game is what the you know, the defense

2512
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:21,880
Speaker 4: giving up just thirteen point one. So yeah, your offense

2513
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 4: doesn't have to be explosive, but still looking for more. Likewise,

2514
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:27,799
Speaker 4: the run game is nineteenth averaging one hundred and eighteen

2515
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 4: yards per game for Joe Burrow an extra winner too,

2516
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:32,920
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden we're having those is he

2517
01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 4: the MVP conversations over twenty six hundred yards twenty four

2518
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 4: touchdowns against four picks. Jamar Chase, even without his tag

2519
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 4: team partner, is nineteen yards away from one thousand with

2520
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 4: ten touchdown twelve big plays one hundred and fifty more

2521
01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:49,559
Speaker 4: yards than justin Jefferson just wanted to do a drive

2522
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:52,479
Speaker 4: by there, but t Higgins returns for this one. A

2523
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:55,679
Speaker 4: big Sunday Night affair. Chargers. The narrow one point favorite

2524
01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:58,759
Speaker 4: forty eight is the total thirty eight dollars for getting

2525
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:01,800
Speaker 4: one hundred dollars to Andy Furman. What do you think

2526
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 4: of this one?

2527
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 2: Frustration is the key for this Bengals team and it

2528
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:07,120
Speaker 2: kind of showed us ugly face this Wednesday when they

2529
01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:09,680
Speaker 2: had their news conference. When Joe Burrow dropped the F

2530
01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 2: bomb in the news conference, he'd be the last person

2531
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 2: on Earth. I thought we dropped the F bomb, but

2532
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 2: he did. You talk about great coaches? I mean we

2533
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:18,599
Speaker 2: didn't even talk about Dan Campbell or Jim Harbor. Harbar

2534
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 2: is one of the great coaches, and he's been successful

2535
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 2: in every level every place he's been to. He's turned

2536
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:26,559
Speaker 2: the well, I hate the term culture, but he's turned

2537
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:29,679
Speaker 2: the culture around with the Los Angeles Chargers right now,

2538
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:33,000
Speaker 2: they're an aggressive team. They lead the league in scoring

2539
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 2: defense about thirteen points allowed per game, which is going

2540
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 2: to be tough for the Bengals to see what they

2541
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 2: could do the Bengals have a hard time stopping the run,

2542
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:42,440
Speaker 2: and that's basically what they do. They'll run the football.

2543
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:44,280
Speaker 2: So I like the Charges to win this game. I

2544
01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 2: think it'll be a close one. I think the Chargers win.

2545
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 2: I'd love to see the Bengals winning and keep the

2546
01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:51,160
Speaker 2: season alive, at least for the fans of Cincinnati. I

2547
01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to happen. I think the Chargers

2548
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 2: top to bottom are better than the Cincinnati Bengals, even

2549
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:59,320
Speaker 2: with t Higgins in there, which kind of unleashes Jamar Chase.

2550
01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 2: But we'll see what happens.

2551
01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:04,480
Speaker 4: Chargers tied for second Bucky in terms of turnover differential

2552
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:07,040
Speaker 4: at an ice robust plus nine on the season.

2553
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:09,600
Speaker 1: Really good team.

2554
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:12,839
Speaker 3: Jesse Minho's done a great job with the defense. Simplify things,

2555
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:17,400
Speaker 3: the communication, the discipline, the detail, really really tackling well

2556
01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 3: on the perimeter for the Bengals. You're right, what the

2557
01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 3: Charges are gonna do is they're gonna do what bullies do.

2558
01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:25,120
Speaker 3: They gonna try and sock the Bengals right in them

2559
01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 3: OFUF early and we'll see how they respond. And I'm

2560
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:30,840
Speaker 3: gonna say this, if I was calling the alley and

2561
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:32,880
Speaker 3: I had Jim Harboro on maside, or had the choice

2562
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:34,400
Speaker 3: of getting Zack Taylor on my side. I'm gonna go

2563
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:37,160
Speaker 3: with Jim Harbaugh. I picked games like that. Who's gonna

2564
01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:38,840
Speaker 3: win the street fight? I think Jim Harborough wins.

2565
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:41,440
Speaker 4: May Also, I had Vince baughn hanging around to practice.

2566
01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 4: What do you think guys made him record into their

2567
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:48,480
Speaker 4: phones most because you know I watched the Christmas classic

2568
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:51,720
Speaker 4: Fred Klaus to start my holiday season earlier this week.

2569
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Speaker 4: You guys probably don't know that one either. Well, you

2570
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:59,720
Speaker 4: got a miniature pine sized Ludicris that they did with CGI,

2571
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:03,800
Speaker 4: where he's the DJ in the North Pole just playing.

2572
01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:08,360
Speaker 4: Here comes Santa Claus repeatedly until Vince Spawn shows him

2573
01:56:08,360 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 4: the way, and then Elvis Presley's a little less conversation

2574
01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:13,320
Speaker 4: comes into the makes. All right, we have one more

2575
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:16,840
Speaker 4: game to go. Maybe nobody else cares but me. Texans

2576
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 4: It Cowboys a right, Texans seven point favorite on the

2577
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:24,240
Speaker 4: road in Big d as they reconfigure things post fight

2578
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:27,680
Speaker 4: at home this year twenty five point loss, three point loss,

2579
01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:30,120
Speaker 4: thirty eight point loss, twenty eight point loss. Hey, they

2580
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 4: did announce Rico Dwell will be the starting running back

2581
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:38,400
Speaker 4: for the Cowboys pause, pause, cricket effect go for Houston.

2582
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:40,680
Speaker 4: Mix It scored six of his seven games, five one

2583
01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 4: hundred yard efforts on the ground for CJ. Stroud, thirty

2584
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:47,440
Speaker 4: four sacks on the season, including twelve the last two weeks,

2585
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 4: less than sixty percent completion rate three of the last

2586
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:55,040
Speaker 4: four games. But he gets Nico Collins back. Does that

2587
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:57,040
Speaker 4: solve all ills? Bucky Brooks?

2588
01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:00,400
Speaker 3: Nico Collins solves a lot of the problems that they've

2589
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 3: had in the permit. They haven't been explosive since then.

2590
01:57:02,600 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 3: And this is the perfect team to take on Dallas.

2591
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:08,320
Speaker 3: They don't feel good, they got a backup quarterback. Questions

2592
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 3: abound Texans in this one and it won't be close.

2593
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:12,920
Speaker 1: Yikes.

2594
01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, the Texas have the advantage on both sides

2595
01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:17,640
Speaker 2: of the football. All I need to mention to you

2596
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 2: is the word Kooper rush. That'll get it done right there,

2597
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 2: because that changes the entire offensive scheme for this Dallas

2598
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:24,840
Speaker 2: team right now. And they say, see deee Lamb was

2599
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:26,960
Speaker 2: a little banged up anyway, So you got to go

2600
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:29,200
Speaker 2: with the Texas. But I'll ask you this question. I

2601
01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 2: just happened to realize that the Cowboys have lost four

2602
01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:33,160
Speaker 2: straight and I didn't have time to look this up.

2603
01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:36,800
Speaker 2: Is that like one of the most consecutive loss losses

2604
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 2: this team has ever had? Is that a reckon for

2605
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 2: the Cowboys? Four straight games they've lost.

2606
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 4: Let's see what old AI response will give us. Yeah, well,

2607
01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:48,400
Speaker 4: I mean you can go back to before Troy Aikman

2608
01:57:48,440 --> 01:57:49,800
Speaker 4: came in. They had a fourteen gamer.

2609
01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see.

2610
01:57:52,720 --> 01:57:55,680
Speaker 4: Eighty eight ten games six Yeah, eighty eight, eighty nine

2611
01:57:56,480 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 4: huge twenty fifteen, the year before Dak Press God shows

2612
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:01,400
Speaker 4: up seven game.

2613
01:58:03,040 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 2: Well, they'll have six games because they got the Giants

2614
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:08,280
Speaker 2: coming up on Thanksgiving, So I'll break up with the Giants.

2615
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:11,560
Speaker 4: The g man who's the first into the kettle? Andy Furman,

2616
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:13,840
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2617
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:16,040
Speaker 2: That's a tough fe it really is. I don't know.

2618
01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:19,280
Speaker 4: Can we get Jerry Jones to just do it himself?

2619
01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 4: Get airlifted? Yeah, we may not score a touchdown, tell

2620
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:23,720
Speaker 4: me to do this myself.

2621
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:25,800
Speaker 2: But didn't he say Mike McCaughey was safe, and now

2622
01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:27,400
Speaker 2: all of a sudden on his radio show this week,

2623
01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 2: he's talking about getting a tight end perhaps as the

2624
01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 2: next coach.

2625
01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:32,720
Speaker 4: Well, he did talk up Jason Witten quite a bit

2626
01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:36,320
Speaker 4: right right, that other tight end with Dan Campbell.

2627
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:38,240
Speaker 1: Right, Oh my gosh.

2628
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:40,280
Speaker 3: Well, you know, Jason win has been coaching high school ball,

2629
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:43,760
Speaker 3: led his team to a state championship last year. Given

2630
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:47,120
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell's success in terms of culture and understanding that,

2631
01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:50,720
Speaker 3: maybe Jason Whitten becomes a viable thing.

2632
01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:52,240
Speaker 1: I didn't think. I didn't know that was.

2633
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:53,200
Speaker 4: That was a good pull.

2634
01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:53,560
Speaker 5: Andy.

2635
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:56,040
Speaker 4: We talked about it a little on Friday. That kind

2636
01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:57,880
Speaker 4: of went under the radar. And the radar and the

2637
01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 4: usual chaos that Jerry brings in those radio appearances.

2638
01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:03,800
Speaker 2: He's getting a little senile. I think I really believe

2639
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:06,200
Speaker 2: that was. He said mccaffee was safe.

2640
01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:09,800
Speaker 4: Well, I mean votes of confidence over time change right,

2641
01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 4: get blown out a couple more times, that'll that'll they'll

2642
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:13,919
Speaker 4: shake you a little.

2643
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:15,440
Speaker 1: Bit safe until you not.

2644
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:18,920
Speaker 4: That's it. If nothing else, there's always another bowl of

2645
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:21,960
Speaker 4: Skyline Chiley, just a round you.

2646
01:59:22,600 --> 01:59:25,800
Speaker 6: I'm trying to talk it up as a positive thing.

2647
01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 4: I did not. I'll send you some hot dogs too,

2648
01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:30,760
Speaker 4: so there you go, and he will get me.

2649
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 2: Bucky's a dress. I can send him some too.

2650
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:35,240
Speaker 4: All right. Well, we'll see. He might he might be

2651
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:37,280
Speaker 4: on the lamb. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see

2652
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:39,840
Speaker 4: we can find him, Bucky and I continue next year

2653
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:44,760
Speaker 4: on Fox. Hey, greetings, welcome in another hour Fox Football Sunday,

2654
01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:48,600
Speaker 4: an hour closer to kickoff. Yeah, down to four, Get

2655
01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 4: those fours up as we roll through it. His week

2656
01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:55,080
Speaker 4: eleven of your National Football League season, one game already

2657
01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:57,640
Speaker 4: in the books, and then one of those fun weeks

2658
01:59:57,640 --> 02:00:01,200
Speaker 4: where we have four teams on buys, so fantasy lineups,

2659
02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:03,640
Speaker 4: all of that fun stuff that you need to adjust.

2660
02:00:03,680 --> 02:00:07,760
Speaker 4: No Giants, no Cardinals, no Buccaneers, and no Carolina Panthers.

2661
02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:10,840
Speaker 4: I know you're sad. No Chuba Hubbard references to be

2662
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2668
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Speaker 4: We appreciate you. Are guys hard at work here. Chris

2669
02:00:32,800 --> 02:00:35,400
Speaker 4: Burfett tags in from Mark Ramsey. We got our guys, Shay,

2670
02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:38,960
Speaker 4: our executive producer, and Isaac Lohencron with us. He'll have

2671
02:00:39,040 --> 02:00:40,880
Speaker 4: some of the news and notes about the injuries and

2672
02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:43,320
Speaker 4: updates that are out there. But I got my guy

2673
02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:45,400
Speaker 4: Bucky Brooks five years in the league working with the

2674
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:50,600
Speaker 4: Jaguars coach mentor analysts. You read him NFL dot Com,

2675
02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:54,000
Speaker 4: see him NFL networking across our Fox networks. It's going on, man,

2676
02:00:54,040 --> 02:00:56,480
Speaker 4: I'm wearing a lot of hats Week eleven of the season.

2677
02:00:56,720 --> 02:00:59,600
Speaker 4: How's the hydration, how's the physicality at this point?

2678
02:01:00,960 --> 02:01:02,240
Speaker 1: All good? You know what I'm saying.

2679
02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:04,400
Speaker 3: Like we are in the stretch run, you always want

2680
02:01:04,400 --> 02:01:06,640
Speaker 3: to be at your best during this time of year.

2681
02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:10,640
Speaker 3: And as you noticed, Mike, like we get into situation

2682
02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:15,440
Speaker 3: critical pretenders contenders as a separation. We're seeing the divide

2683
02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:18,800
Speaker 3: happen right in front of us. But then the special

2684
02:01:18,840 --> 02:01:21,960
Speaker 3: part that the schedule makers do this is Rivalry Week.

2685
02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:24,800
Speaker 3: They haven't talked about it, but it's rivalry we When

2686
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:26,720
Speaker 3: you look at the schedule, there are a lot of

2687
02:01:26,800 --> 02:01:31,360
Speaker 3: notable games that have history between two bitter franchises, and

2688
02:01:31,400 --> 02:01:32,480
Speaker 3: I love that part of it.

2689
02:01:32,480 --> 02:01:34,560
Speaker 1: There's nothing better than to take on a rival where

2690
02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:35,320
Speaker 1: it's college.

2691
02:01:35,080 --> 02:01:37,280
Speaker 4: Of the pros now some good juice and we talked

2692
02:01:37,280 --> 02:01:40,360
Speaker 4: a little bit of rivalry last hour. You've got the

2693
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:43,520
Speaker 4: column up on NFL dot com talking about the greatness.

2694
02:01:43,720 --> 02:01:46,880
Speaker 4: I lamented the fact that just Bears Packers as a

2695
02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:50,320
Speaker 4: game and as a historical institution took a back seat

2696
02:01:50,360 --> 02:01:53,920
Speaker 4: to everything swirling in Chicago, right just when you talk

2697
02:01:53,960 --> 02:01:56,879
Speaker 4: about the coaching staff, the fact that so many players

2698
02:01:56,960 --> 02:02:01,320
Speaker 4: have hit the media via television, radio, whatever, to either

2699
02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:04,320
Speaker 4: back the bus up over one part of the equation,

2700
02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:09,520
Speaker 4: the outgoing Waldron or to question Eberflus outright and the

2701
02:02:09,560 --> 02:02:13,160
Speaker 4: decision making therein you got a lot of questions, what

2702
02:02:13,400 --> 02:02:16,080
Speaker 4: is Caleb Williams? What can he be? Has he been

2703
02:02:16,120 --> 02:02:20,040
Speaker 4: irreparably harmed by the game? Should he have been benched?

2704
02:02:20,040 --> 02:02:22,960
Speaker 4: Like all of those things Bucky have taken away from Hey,

2705
02:02:23,000 --> 02:02:26,320
Speaker 4: this has always just been a fun storyline year to year,

2706
02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:29,280
Speaker 4: you know, going back to the Bears and that odd

2707
02:02:29,600 --> 02:02:31,960
Speaker 4: some of the odd decision making that allowed the Packers

2708
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:35,600
Speaker 4: to go to the super Bowl against the Steelers. Yeah,

2709
02:02:35,600 --> 02:02:38,360
Speaker 4: I remember that year that people have to remember some

2710
02:02:38,400 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 4: of what went on there in terms of wins, losses

2711
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:43,920
Speaker 4: and the stretch run there. But all of that to say, Bucky, Yeah,

2712
02:02:44,200 --> 02:02:46,840
Speaker 4: your point is well taken. When we look at the

2713
02:02:46,880 --> 02:02:50,600
Speaker 4: slate today, you've got some of those great NFL films,

2714
02:02:50,640 --> 02:02:53,360
Speaker 4: things that we can start to do with Ai John Facenda.

2715
02:02:55,920 --> 02:02:56,480
Speaker 1: I love it.

2716
02:02:57,160 --> 02:02:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you do have some of those nostalgic matchups.

2717
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:03,280
Speaker 3: It's always fun to see these teams duke it out

2718
02:03:03,480 --> 02:03:06,560
Speaker 3: and look, I'm not gonna lie like you're seeing some

2719
02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:08,640
Speaker 3: of the young players kind of get close to hitting

2720
02:03:08,640 --> 02:03:09,320
Speaker 3: the rookie wall.

2721
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:11,160
Speaker 1: As much as we'll talk about.

2722
02:03:10,920 --> 02:03:13,800
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniels, we saw on Thursday night,

2723
02:03:14,240 --> 02:03:16,320
Speaker 3: it's a long season for these young guys. So we'll

2724
02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:19,360
Speaker 3: see some of these guys kind of see if they

2725
02:03:19,360 --> 02:03:23,600
Speaker 3: can kind of get pressed through and show a enough toughness.

2726
02:03:23,120 --> 02:03:24,160
Speaker 1: And grit to move on.

2727
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:27,960
Speaker 3: But we'll also see another young quarterback, and Anthony Richardson

2728
02:03:28,280 --> 02:03:30,560
Speaker 3: have an opportunity to display some of that grit, some

2729
02:03:30,600 --> 02:03:34,400
Speaker 3: of that resilience bouncing off the mat, being bench publicly

2730
02:03:34,720 --> 02:03:36,920
Speaker 3: where a lot of people took shots at him. We'll

2731
02:03:36,920 --> 02:03:40,480
Speaker 3: see how he's learned over two weeks and see what

2732
02:03:40,520 --> 02:03:43,920
Speaker 3: he does with another opportunity to lead the Colts.

2733
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:46,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's an interesting example of how quickly we do

2734
02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:50,160
Speaker 4: the and I forget the sitcom it was on, but

2735
02:03:50,200 --> 02:03:53,040
Speaker 4: it was one of the greatest. You know, we'll comebacks

2736
02:03:53,080 --> 02:03:56,080
Speaker 4: in a little game of back and forth and disrespecting

2737
02:03:56,120 --> 02:04:00,600
Speaker 4: each other. Where the guy pulled the conversation back by saying, now,

2738
02:04:00,640 --> 02:04:02,840
Speaker 4: coul de Sac, you know where you start at one

2739
02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:05,360
Speaker 4: end and you've gone all around. Because Anthony Richardson coming

2740
02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:07,520
Speaker 4: out of college was well, he's a project, he's only

2741
02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:09,920
Speaker 4: got this many starts whatever else, and then all of

2742
02:04:09,960 --> 02:04:11,800
Speaker 4: a sudden he's failing and people are out there with

2743
02:04:11,840 --> 02:04:15,480
Speaker 4: their giant baseball bats to take him to test like

2744
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:18,760
Speaker 4: the hey begging off for being tired and then being

2745
02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:21,720
Speaker 4: honest about it. You know that's not gonna sit well

2746
02:04:21,720 --> 02:04:23,480
Speaker 4: with a lot of folks. I get. But the on

2747
02:04:23,680 --> 02:04:26,240
Speaker 4: field play and we've had this discussion, you and I

2748
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:28,640
Speaker 4: going for years in terms of, you know, trying to

2749
02:04:28,640 --> 02:04:31,640
Speaker 4: figure out that delicate balance of when a young quarterback

2750
02:04:31,720 --> 02:04:34,720
Speaker 4: is ready, ripe and ready to go and how much

2751
02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:37,280
Speaker 4: burden they can take in terms of how they're leading

2752
02:04:37,320 --> 02:04:37,879
Speaker 4: an offense.

2753
02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting, right to see that, Right, we talk

2754
02:04:42,240 --> 02:04:44,720
Speaker 3: about him and a lot of the conversation always leading

2755
02:04:44,760 --> 02:04:46,120
Speaker 3: up to the draft height this guy's going to need

2756
02:04:46,160 --> 02:04:48,720
Speaker 3: some time. It's going to a year. Gotta be patient

2757
02:04:48,800 --> 02:04:51,080
Speaker 3: with him then develop. Oh, the regular season getting here.

2758
02:04:51,080 --> 02:04:52,880
Speaker 3: You gotta put the young guys on the field. Guys,

2759
02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:54,360
Speaker 3: you got to get the young quarterback going.

2760
02:04:54,400 --> 02:04:56,320
Speaker 1: That's the only way. This is the super Bowl window,

2761
02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:59,320
Speaker 1: Ricky quarterback contract, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA YadA.

2762
02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:01,840
Speaker 3: We hear that conversation all the time. And then when

2763
02:05:01,880 --> 02:05:03,360
Speaker 3: we put the young gull on the field and he

2764
02:05:03,520 --> 02:05:06,000
Speaker 3: doesn't look like he's ready to play, now, we want

2765
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:07,360
Speaker 3: to sit him down. And we not only want to

2766
02:05:07,400 --> 02:05:09,280
Speaker 3: sit him down, we want to sit him down and

2767
02:05:09,280 --> 02:05:11,240
Speaker 3: start a discussion on we got to move on from him,

2768
02:05:11,240 --> 02:05:13,000
Speaker 3: who's the next quarterback that we can find.

2769
02:05:13,760 --> 02:05:15,480
Speaker 1: The NFL is funny because it has a.

2770
02:05:15,520 --> 02:05:19,440
Speaker 3: Quarterback development problem, but now more than ever, we're trying

2771
02:05:19,480 --> 02:05:22,520
Speaker 3: to put more on the quarterback. Part of the reason

2772
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:25,240
Speaker 3: why we're seeing the renaissance of the running game and

2773
02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:28,720
Speaker 3: the running back is because these teams are realizing, you know,

2774
02:05:29,360 --> 02:05:32,640
Speaker 3: it's probably not best to have a complete quarterback centric approach,

2775
02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:34,360
Speaker 3: because what if our quarterback.

2776
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:34,760
Speaker 1: Isn't good enough.

2777
02:05:35,120 --> 02:05:37,320
Speaker 3: Let's make sure we balance out the offense a little

2778
02:05:37,320 --> 02:05:40,160
Speaker 3: bit to give us options, and the teams that are

2779
02:05:40,200 --> 02:05:43,760
Speaker 3: doing it are the teams that have quarterbacks. Look at

2780
02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:46,160
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson playing at an MVP level. What did they

2781
02:05:46,200 --> 02:05:49,480
Speaker 3: do in the offseason. They got Derrick Henry made the

2782
02:05:49,520 --> 02:05:50,600
Speaker 3: game easier for him.

2783
02:05:50,600 --> 02:05:52,400
Speaker 1: Dereck Henry already over a thousand yards.

2784
02:05:52,680 --> 02:05:55,080
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts, who's played at an MVP level at times

2785
02:05:55,120 --> 02:05:55,600
Speaker 3: throughout his.

2786
02:05:55,520 --> 02:05:57,640
Speaker 1: Career, a struggle last year a little bit. What do

2787
02:05:57,720 --> 02:05:58,040
Speaker 1: they do?

2788
02:05:58,280 --> 02:06:01,120
Speaker 3: They went and got a premiere running back, the Green

2789
02:06:01,160 --> 02:06:03,600
Speaker 3: Bay Packers, Jordan Love. We like what the young guys

2790
02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:06,760
Speaker 3: showed the last half of twenty twenty three. Let's help

2791
02:06:06,840 --> 02:06:10,280
Speaker 3: him by getting Josh Jacobs. To me, it's not a

2792
02:06:10,360 --> 02:06:13,040
Speaker 3: coincidence that you're seeing the running back come back when

2793
02:06:13,040 --> 02:06:14,880
Speaker 3: we're seeing so many quarterbacks.

2794
02:06:14,400 --> 02:06:16,960
Speaker 4: Struggle trying to figure it out. Make it easier second

2795
02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:19,000
Speaker 4: down and four a lot easier to work with than

2796
02:06:19,040 --> 02:06:22,160
Speaker 4: that playbook that gets that much bigger. I mean, it's fundamental.

2797
02:06:22,520 --> 02:06:25,800
Speaker 4: Barkley over eleven hundred yards already with his ten or

2798
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:29,880
Speaker 4: eight touchdowns. You've got Derrick Henry at eleven hundred as well,

2799
02:06:29,960 --> 02:06:32,120
Speaker 4: just a few yards behind. With the game to play

2800
02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:35,680
Speaker 4: today against Pittsburgh, he's already at twelve touchdowns rounding out

2801
02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:37,920
Speaker 4: your top five rushing Hey, I lied, I got another

2802
02:06:37,960 --> 02:06:41,480
Speaker 4: Chewbe Hubbard reference in based on where this conversation went,

2803
02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:44,440
Speaker 4: he got paid. He's at eight eighteen Josh Jacobs. As

2804
02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:48,480
Speaker 4: you mentioned, it helps to keep the ball from flying

2805
02:06:48,520 --> 02:06:51,480
Speaker 4: into the opponent's hands, which is something Jordan Love still

2806
02:06:51,520 --> 02:06:54,720
Speaker 4: needs to get better at right in his process, and

2807
02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:57,560
Speaker 4: Bjon Robinson with a couple of big games, He's now

2808
02:06:57,680 --> 02:07:01,600
Speaker 4: fifth coming out of Atlanta, not off the pace. Jamier Gibbs,

2809
02:07:02,040 --> 02:07:04,560
Speaker 4: the talented running back from Detroit, so we've seen what

2810
02:07:04,600 --> 02:07:08,800
Speaker 4: they've done with Gibbs and Montgomery certainly helps to make

2811
02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:11,720
Speaker 4: that offense run and goes to the identity of Dan Campbell.

2812
02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:14,680
Speaker 4: But all of it to say, we expect the world

2813
02:07:14,680 --> 02:07:18,080
Speaker 4: from young quarterbacks. I've long been the the old man,

2814
02:07:18,360 --> 02:07:20,480
Speaker 4: you know at the Horror movie. It's an analogy that

2815
02:07:20,600 --> 02:07:22,640
Speaker 4: Smith and I use on our show in the evenings

2816
02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:25,840
Speaker 4: here Bucky, whereas like I'm warning you don't go in there,

2817
02:07:26,280 --> 02:07:29,840
Speaker 4: and you go in anyway because you're you're curious, Well,

2818
02:07:29,840 --> 02:07:31,960
Speaker 4: what's he wanning? Be Man's It can't be that bad.

2819
02:07:32,240 --> 02:07:34,440
Speaker 4: I heard there's a pretty nice lake in a little

2820
02:07:34,520 --> 02:07:38,520
Speaker 4: house there that we can use and go and party that.

2821
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:39,840
Speaker 4: That's kind of what we do with a lot of

2822
02:07:39,880 --> 02:07:42,560
Speaker 4: these young quarterbacks. It's the shiny new toy that's gonna

2823
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:45,320
Speaker 4: be the the big hope. But you know, you mentioned

2824
02:07:45,320 --> 02:07:49,080
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams, you mentioned Jaden Daniels in particular, going up

2825
02:07:49,080 --> 02:07:52,200
Speaker 4: against Philly. They played bully ball, or tried to Philly

2826
02:07:52,240 --> 02:07:55,080
Speaker 4: did for the first half. Just Elliott didn't finish the

2827
02:07:55,160 --> 02:07:57,680
Speaker 4: job right. He kicks a couple of field goals. We

2828
02:07:57,680 --> 02:08:00,760
Speaker 4: get a much different second half, perhaps, but either way,

2829
02:08:01,200 --> 02:08:03,320
Speaker 4: you keep a team on a field, you wear them down,

2830
02:08:03,360 --> 02:08:06,560
Speaker 4: and eventually Barkley's running like a kid through a spring

2831
02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:09,720
Speaker 4: flower field all by himself in the second half, which

2832
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:12,000
Speaker 4: is what you saw break down. But for both of

2833
02:08:12,040 --> 02:08:14,760
Speaker 4: those quarterbacks, and I think the as much as I

2834
02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:17,880
Speaker 4: love my Chicago team, the more interesting one is Jaden

2835
02:08:17,960 --> 02:08:20,360
Speaker 4: Daniels because you know, you started to get all the

2836
02:08:20,440 --> 02:08:23,840
Speaker 4: MVP talk and all the excitement and excitations, and then

2837
02:08:23,880 --> 02:08:27,560
Speaker 4: you start going back through the schedule, a lot of

2838
02:08:27,800 --> 02:08:32,200
Speaker 4: numbers against big teams, shrinking a little bit against better teams,

2839
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:36,000
Speaker 4: and Terry McLaurin was invisible in a big spot on

2840
02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:40,040
Speaker 4: Thursday night, just trying to figure out rookie Wall League

2841
02:08:40,080 --> 02:08:42,760
Speaker 4: catch up tape, all of those things. You know, what

2842
02:08:42,800 --> 02:08:45,160
Speaker 4: do you take from where Washington is. Obviously they hit

2843
02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:48,280
Speaker 4: their over for the over under on wins for the year,

2844
02:08:48,320 --> 02:08:50,280
Speaker 4: which was six and a half, so people already cash

2845
02:08:50,360 --> 02:08:54,160
Speaker 4: that ticket. But going forward, how does Kingsbury get this

2846
02:08:54,240 --> 02:08:55,160
Speaker 4: thing back on track?

2847
02:08:57,200 --> 02:08:58,040
Speaker 1: I would say this.

2848
02:09:00,280 --> 02:09:04,360
Speaker 3: Story and I love what they've represented, dan Quinn coming

2849
02:09:04,400 --> 02:09:08,120
Speaker 3: over building in a culture which is over like the

2850
02:09:08,160 --> 02:09:12,920
Speaker 3: word is overused, but you can't underscore how important it

2851
02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:15,760
Speaker 3: is to create the right environment for your team to

2852
02:09:15,800 --> 02:09:18,160
Speaker 3: be successful. We're seeing that, We're seeing how the team

2853
02:09:18,240 --> 02:09:20,480
Speaker 3: plays for one another, and I would say they're punching

2854
02:09:20,520 --> 02:09:22,680
Speaker 3: above their weight in terms of the talent that they

2855
02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:24,480
Speaker 3: have on the roster, and the performance that they put

2856
02:09:24,520 --> 02:09:27,080
Speaker 3: on the field doesn't line up. And so this might

2857
02:09:27,120 --> 02:09:29,480
Speaker 3: be a bit of a market correction where they're coming

2858
02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:29,920
Speaker 3: back to the.

2859
02:09:29,960 --> 02:09:31,360
Speaker 1: Mean of what they should be.

2860
02:09:31,880 --> 02:09:35,800
Speaker 3: But Cliff Kingsbury's done a really good job with the quarterback,

2861
02:09:35,880 --> 02:09:38,240
Speaker 3: Jayde Daniels Jaden and Daniels has found a way to

2862
02:09:38,280 --> 02:09:40,480
Speaker 3: get the ball to the playmakers. He's shown that he

2863
02:09:40,520 --> 02:09:43,760
Speaker 3: has that special stuff. Now the challenge is now that

2864
02:09:43,760 --> 02:09:45,440
Speaker 3: the league has kind of put a book on him.

2865
02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:47,840
Speaker 3: He had a little struggle the other night on Thursday.

2866
02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:48,800
Speaker 1: How does he bounce back?

2867
02:09:48,840 --> 02:09:51,600
Speaker 3: If he bounced back, this team still they don't win

2868
02:09:51,640 --> 02:09:53,840
Speaker 3: the division. They'll claim one of those wildcard spots and

2869
02:09:53,880 --> 02:09:55,480
Speaker 3: be a thorn in the side of a team that

2870
02:09:55,520 --> 02:09:57,240
Speaker 3: they face early in the postseason.

2871
02:09:56,840 --> 02:09:58,280
Speaker 4: Good enough to be a pain in the neck one

2872
02:09:58,560 --> 02:10:02,520
Speaker 4: if particularly if Robinson and Ekler are fully ready both

2873
02:10:02,560 --> 02:10:05,440
Speaker 4: as runner and receiver, particularly Ekler out of the backfield

2874
02:10:05,440 --> 02:10:07,800
Speaker 4: as a receiver a nice safety valve, And if zach

2875
02:10:07,960 --> 02:10:09,960
Speaker 4: Ertz can stay healthy, I think he's an X factor

2876
02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:13,120
Speaker 4: to what they're trying to do. You know, the quarterback's

2877
02:10:13,120 --> 02:10:15,320
Speaker 4: best friend is always that tight end, right, the young

2878
02:10:15,400 --> 02:10:19,400
Speaker 4: quarterback as you go through playing pitch and catch. All right,

2879
02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:21,520
Speaker 4: So I'd be remiss. We've got to do the Caleb

2880
02:10:21,560 --> 02:10:26,960
Speaker 4: Williams discussion. It's one that'll have doctoral theses going on

2881
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:30,360
Speaker 4: in Chicago before long. How much do you put on

2882
02:10:30,680 --> 02:10:34,520
Speaker 4: him in terms of evolving from what made him great

2883
02:10:34,520 --> 02:10:37,920
Speaker 4: in college and thinking that transport, you know, just goes

2884
02:10:37,920 --> 02:10:38,800
Speaker 4: straight to the pros.

2885
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:44,680
Speaker 3: I put some of that on him because you know

2886
02:10:44,800 --> 02:10:47,800
Speaker 3: it's not his fault, but the hype. Right, So here's

2887
02:10:47,880 --> 02:10:51,880
Speaker 3: what happened, and it's unfair to Williams. So we are

2888
02:10:51,920 --> 02:10:55,640
Speaker 3: so quick to say that people are and it's the

2889
02:10:55,760 --> 02:10:58,280
Speaker 3: term that we never used when I was in scouting,

2890
02:10:58,320 --> 02:11:00,480
Speaker 3: but it has become one of the things that used

2891
02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:01,600
Speaker 3: in TV scouting.

2892
02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:04,200
Speaker 1: Generational talent every.

2893
02:11:05,760 --> 02:11:08,400
Speaker 3: Right, right, and and there's no such thing because if

2894
02:11:08,400 --> 02:11:11,960
Speaker 3: we're talking about a generational talent, well that should be

2895
02:11:11,960 --> 02:11:13,000
Speaker 3: once in a generation.

2896
02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:14,240
Speaker 1: That's why we're saying that.

2897
02:11:14,640 --> 02:11:17,680
Speaker 3: But his talent is not as extraordinary as we made

2898
02:11:17,720 --> 02:11:19,880
Speaker 3: it out to be, and so we put these un

2899
02:11:21,320 --> 02:11:23,480
Speaker 3: fair expectations on him.

2900
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:27,880
Speaker 1: We had the conversation that, man, the Bears will never punt. Like,

2901
02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:30,320
Speaker 1: think about this statement just on its head. The Bears

2902
02:11:30,360 --> 02:11:31,200
Speaker 1: are never punted. This all.

2903
02:11:31,280 --> 02:11:37,360
Speaker 3: They're so good on offense, they may never punt. Yeah yeah,

2904
02:11:37,440 --> 02:11:39,920
Speaker 3: I mean like they'll they'll they'll never do that.

2905
02:11:39,960 --> 02:11:41,800
Speaker 1: And so some of it was his own doing.

2906
02:11:42,200 --> 02:11:47,320
Speaker 3: And maybe there's a little arrogance and you know, navitated

2907
02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:49,440
Speaker 3: when it comes to how good the league is and

2908
02:11:49,480 --> 02:11:51,360
Speaker 3: how hard the league is when it comes to the

2909
02:11:51,400 --> 02:11:54,280
Speaker 3: people that you're facing, the coaches and those things. And

2910
02:11:54,800 --> 02:11:58,480
Speaker 3: I can't say that the Bears completely put them in

2911
02:11:58,480 --> 02:12:01,840
Speaker 3: a thing that was best for a young quarterback to thrive.

2912
02:12:01,920 --> 02:12:04,040
Speaker 3: It was a lot of freelance stuff, a lot of

2913
02:12:04,080 --> 02:12:08,080
Speaker 3: moving around, a lot of the efrovisational stuff that we

2914
02:12:08,160 --> 02:12:11,400
Speaker 3: saw at se The thing about that that can be

2915
02:12:11,560 --> 02:12:12,320
Speaker 3: on occasion.

2916
02:12:13,200 --> 02:12:15,640
Speaker 1: You can't build your entire offense on doing that.

2917
02:12:15,680 --> 02:12:17,560
Speaker 3: It reminds me of playing Madden back in the day

2918
02:12:17,560 --> 02:12:21,080
Speaker 3: when Rendall Cunningham was on my Sega Genesis right, and

2919
02:12:21,160 --> 02:12:23,800
Speaker 3: Rendal Cunningham was faster than everybody, So you could drop

2920
02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:27,480
Speaker 3: back sixty yards to throw eighty yards to Fred Barnett

2921
02:12:27,520 --> 02:12:28,640
Speaker 3: streaking down the field.

2922
02:12:29,160 --> 02:12:30,520
Speaker 1: You can't do that in the pros.

2923
02:12:30,560 --> 02:12:32,280
Speaker 3: And so for Caleb, he has to be in a

2924
02:12:32,320 --> 02:12:36,800
Speaker 3: system that makes him play on time, and that other

2925
02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:40,400
Speaker 3: stuff that he does is on occasion. It's not the

2926
02:12:40,560 --> 02:12:43,720
Speaker 3: entire basis and foundation of how he plays the game.

2927
02:12:44,080 --> 02:12:46,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the curiosity. And then you get Keenan Allen

2928
02:12:46,800 --> 02:12:50,760
Speaker 4: and other veterans that pipe in some extra comments to

2929
02:12:50,840 --> 02:12:54,080
Speaker 4: it all. So it's just created a bit of a sesspool.

2930
02:12:54,160 --> 02:12:57,600
Speaker 4: And I know those that were trumpeting things that were

2931
02:12:57,600 --> 02:12:59,560
Speaker 4: going to be an easy fix and the Bears were

2932
02:12:59,600 --> 02:13:04,040
Speaker 4: on arrival. It's they're having a good laugh at this

2933
02:13:04,160 --> 02:13:06,760
Speaker 4: point at the barriers tense because well, they don't get

2934
02:13:06,760 --> 02:13:09,560
Speaker 4: out of their own way, right. It's it's the what

2935
02:13:09,640 --> 02:13:11,839
Speaker 4: we were talking about a little bit last hour, and

2936
02:13:11,880 --> 02:13:13,680
Speaker 4: you and I for as long as you've been doing

2937
02:13:13,680 --> 02:13:18,000
Speaker 4: this right organizations and while you may abhor the overuse

2938
02:13:18,040 --> 02:13:21,360
Speaker 4: of the word culture, it's a real thing. I mean,

2939
02:13:22,320 --> 02:13:25,640
Speaker 4: that's why we we bring up these same ten organizations

2940
02:13:26,280 --> 02:13:29,480
Speaker 4: as hallmarks. Right, you're talking to shave in. One of

2941
02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:31,920
Speaker 4: the as we were waiting on the i LO update,

2942
02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:35,040
Speaker 4: you know, was he's got a friend that's playing in

2943
02:13:35,080 --> 02:13:39,160
Speaker 4: the White Sox organization. Your son's played some baseball. You

2944
02:13:39,160 --> 02:13:42,480
Speaker 4: you're an observer of this. You know which organizations have

2945
02:13:42,920 --> 02:13:46,920
Speaker 4: a path towards getting things right and some that can't

2946
02:13:46,920 --> 02:13:49,880
Speaker 4: get out of their own way. Unfortunately, there's another one

2947
02:13:49,920 --> 02:13:51,800
Speaker 4: of my teams. See, you can make it all about

2948
02:13:51,880 --> 02:13:56,160
Speaker 4: hate watching my or hate watching in because you dislike me.

2949
02:13:56,880 --> 02:13:58,160
Speaker 4: My team's on the field.

2950
02:14:00,560 --> 02:14:04,200
Speaker 3: You know, it is interesting to hear that conversation, right,

2951
02:14:04,240 --> 02:14:07,320
Speaker 3: to hear the conversation about the bears and can't get

2952
02:14:07,320 --> 02:14:09,400
Speaker 3: out their own way? And why can some teams and

2953
02:14:09,520 --> 02:14:12,200
Speaker 3: organizations figure it out what others can't?

2954
02:14:12,520 --> 02:14:14,920
Speaker 1: To me, what the Bears have is and I'm not

2955
02:14:14,960 --> 02:14:16,360
Speaker 1: a Bears man. You are more of that.

2956
02:14:16,560 --> 02:14:19,760
Speaker 3: But here's my observation outside looking in, the Bears have

2957
02:14:19,800 --> 02:14:23,960
Speaker 3: an identity crisis. The Bears refuse to accept who they are,

2958
02:14:24,000 --> 02:14:27,560
Speaker 3: and because they refuse to accept who they are, they

2959
02:14:27,600 --> 02:14:30,160
Speaker 3: can't fully maximize what they could be.

2960
02:14:30,800 --> 02:14:33,640
Speaker 1: Meaning, you're a team that plays in the windy city.

2961
02:14:33,680 --> 02:14:36,440
Speaker 3: Why do they call Chicago the windy city because it's

2962
02:14:36,480 --> 02:14:37,200
Speaker 3: super windy?

2963
02:14:37,360 --> 02:14:41,920
Speaker 4: Because but yeah, the wind israel thing off the lake front.

2964
02:14:42,720 --> 02:14:43,680
Speaker 1: It is off the lakefront.

2965
02:14:43,720 --> 02:14:46,080
Speaker 3: So why would I build a team that is built

2966
02:14:46,080 --> 02:14:48,680
Speaker 3: on the passing game and a place where it's unpredictable

2967
02:14:48,720 --> 02:14:50,680
Speaker 3: what I'm gonna get every Sunday when it comes to

2968
02:14:50,720 --> 02:14:51,320
Speaker 3: the wind.

2969
02:14:51,120 --> 02:14:51,600
Speaker 1: In the weather.

2970
02:14:52,520 --> 02:14:55,040
Speaker 3: So if I am the Chicago Bears and I look

2971
02:14:55,080 --> 02:14:59,680
Speaker 3: at one cold weather, two super windy inclement conditions could

2972
02:14:59,760 --> 02:15:02,000
Speaker 3: imp active way that we play, why don't we build

2973
02:15:02,040 --> 02:15:03,960
Speaker 3: a team that is more balanced. We're always gonna be

2974
02:15:03,960 --> 02:15:06,240
Speaker 3: able to run the football and play defense. Yes, we

2975
02:15:06,360 --> 02:15:08,560
Speaker 3: need to be able to throw, but let's not look

2976
02:15:08,600 --> 02:15:11,520
Speaker 3: to the north and in an envious way, look to

2977
02:15:11,560 --> 02:15:13,160
Speaker 3: the Green Bay Packers and say, you know what, for

2978
02:15:13,200 --> 02:15:15,000
Speaker 3: the last thirty years, the Green Bay Packers have been

2979
02:15:15,040 --> 02:15:17,160
Speaker 3: able to throw. Yes, they have been able to throw

2980
02:15:17,360 --> 02:15:19,320
Speaker 3: with two Hall of Fame quarterbacks, but you know what

2981
02:15:19,480 --> 02:15:20,120
Speaker 3: is produced.

2982
02:15:20,560 --> 02:15:22,960
Speaker 1: It's only produced two titles in thirty years.

2983
02:15:23,600 --> 02:15:26,120
Speaker 3: Like, maybe if the Green Bay Packers were constructed like

2984
02:15:26,160 --> 02:15:28,800
Speaker 3: they were with the Vince Lombardi Packers, where they ran

2985
02:15:28,840 --> 02:15:31,680
Speaker 3: the football, the seal here and a seal here, and

2986
02:15:31,720 --> 02:15:34,720
Speaker 3: we're gonna run the suite or whatever, like, maybe they

2987
02:15:34,720 --> 02:15:37,360
Speaker 3: would have won at an even greater clip.

2988
02:15:37,640 --> 02:15:38,440
Speaker 1: If it wasn't that.

2989
02:15:38,760 --> 02:15:41,360
Speaker 3: If the Bears would build their team the way the

2990
02:15:41,400 --> 02:15:45,400
Speaker 3: city is kind of making you play, I think they

2991
02:15:45,400 --> 02:15:48,760
Speaker 3: would be better defense, running games, special teams. Yeah, you

2992
02:15:48,800 --> 02:15:51,920
Speaker 3: got a quarterback, but what if the Bears played like

2993
02:15:51,960 --> 02:15:52,480
Speaker 3: the Chargers?

2994
02:15:52,480 --> 02:15:53,480
Speaker 1: Would you sign up for that?

2995
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Speaker 3: Would you sign up for the Bears playing like the

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02:15:55,480 --> 02:15:57,000
Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh led Chargers.

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Speaker 4: Well, if I know every week and I have the quarterback,

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Speaker 4: because they do have the quarterback and Herbert that can

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Speaker 4: still wreck you and make plays. But yeah, we're game

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02:16:06,800 --> 02:16:11,360
Speaker 4: to game. There's some semblance and there's a consistency of

3001
02:16:11,480 --> 02:16:13,720
Speaker 4: consistency of what they want to do and what the

3002
02:16:13,760 --> 02:16:15,240
Speaker 4: approach is. Yeah, it goes back to what we were

3003
02:16:15,280 --> 02:16:17,760
Speaker 4: saying before. With the run game right, going back to

3004
02:16:17,840 --> 02:16:21,280
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson and some of the right Kareem Hunt with

3005
02:16:21,320 --> 02:16:23,839
Speaker 4: what they're doing with Patrick Mahomes. Right, you've got balance,

3006
02:16:24,520 --> 02:16:26,480
Speaker 4: and you can work out of balance a lot better.

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Speaker 4: I zhibit in point, You've got Rashawn Johnson who's in

3008
02:16:30,200 --> 02:16:34,000
Speaker 4: perfect health, yet you're running offensive lineman at the goal line.

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02:16:35,400 --> 02:16:36,279
Speaker 1: Ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: That's all I need to do and I can spike

3011
02:16:40,040 --> 02:16:42,080
Speaker 4: the ball right here. I don't need to do anything else.

3012
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Speaker 3: R reridiculous when you think about like that part of it. Yeah,

3013
02:16:47,840 --> 02:16:49,960
Speaker 3: but I mean, like that's the kind of stuff that

3014
02:16:50,640 --> 02:16:54,160
Speaker 3: you're talking about, and you wonder why they have an issue.

3015
02:16:54,160 --> 02:16:55,400
Speaker 1: They have an identity crisis.

3016
02:16:55,440 --> 02:16:58,920
Speaker 3: And when someone will come into Chicago and say, hey, guys, fans.

3017
02:16:58,680 --> 02:17:00,600
Speaker 1: I know you'll want to see it thrown around the yard.

3018
02:17:00,840 --> 02:17:01,600
Speaker 1: We're not gonna do that.

3019
02:17:01,600 --> 02:17:03,920
Speaker 3: We're gonna build a team that wins consistently every week.

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02:17:03,959 --> 02:17:05,680
Speaker 3: When you show up to the stadium, you know exactly

3021
02:17:05,720 --> 02:17:08,800
Speaker 3: who we are. And I'm unapologetic about being that way.

3022
02:17:09,400 --> 02:17:12,880
Speaker 3: The Jim Harborugh hire, if they could have hired him,

3023
02:17:12,920 --> 02:17:14,879
Speaker 3: if they would have hired him, would have made sense

3024
02:17:14,920 --> 02:17:16,840
Speaker 3: because he would have built a team that matches that

3025
02:17:17,360 --> 02:17:19,360
Speaker 3: out West, where we don't even like to run a

3026
02:17:19,400 --> 02:17:21,200
Speaker 3: game out West. You know that we're not trying to

3027
02:17:21,240 --> 02:17:23,439
Speaker 3: pay money to go see the Charges.

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02:17:23,160 --> 02:17:25,080
Speaker 1: Run the ball. But what is he doing? He has

3029
02:17:25,120 --> 02:17:26,600
Speaker 1: one of the best quarterbacks in football.

3030
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Speaker 3: He's still like, yeah, yeah, you're cool, but you're not

3031
02:17:28,800 --> 02:17:30,800
Speaker 3: the main entrede We're gonna run the football, We're gonna

3032
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Speaker 3: play good defense, and when we need you, we'll do it.

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Speaker 1: And it's working for them.

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Speaker 3: And I would say that the Charges are a team

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02:17:38,840 --> 02:17:42,480
Speaker 3: that isn't supremely talented, but they're maximizing their talent because

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02:17:42,480 --> 02:17:43,880
Speaker 3: they play the right way for their team.

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Speaker 4: And I would say this if you believe any of

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02:17:46,320 --> 02:17:50,840
Speaker 4: the videos and people around the organization. Justin Herbert's perfectly

3039
02:17:50,879 --> 02:17:53,400
Speaker 4: fine with where they are in terms of how they

3040
02:17:53,480 --> 02:17:56,400
Speaker 4: orchestrate things and is in line with what his head

3041
02:17:56,440 --> 02:17:59,360
Speaker 4: coach is trying to cook here in Los Angeles. He's

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Speaker 4: Bucky Brooks, Mike Armen. As we come to you from

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Speaker 4: the tirac dot Com Fox Sports Radio studios, we turn

3044
02:18:04,320 --> 02:18:07,400
Speaker 4: our attention because it is the coaching carousel starts to flow.

3045
02:18:07,560 --> 02:18:10,240
Speaker 4: A couple of interesting names starting to be dredged up

3046
02:18:10,480 --> 02:18:12,600
Speaker 4: let's see if we can find them new gigs. We'll

3047
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Speaker 4: do that next year on Fox. Hey, welcome back in

3048
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Speaker 4: Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio, Mike Carmen alongside Bucky Brooks.

3049
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Speaker 4: Thanks for being part of the extended family this morning.

3050
02:18:22,120 --> 02:18:24,880
Speaker 4: Take us with you wherever you go. On the iHeartRadio app.

3051
02:18:25,320 --> 02:18:28,400
Speaker 4: You've got foreign and plus affiliates nationwide. We thank all

3052
02:18:28,440 --> 02:18:32,679
Speaker 4: the program directors and everybody listening on the local affiliates.

3053
02:18:32,800 --> 02:18:35,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, on the iHeartRadio app. The best gift this

3054
02:18:35,840 --> 02:18:40,160
Speaker 4: holiday season, free access Fox Sports Radio, all the podcasts,

3055
02:18:40,240 --> 02:18:42,800
Speaker 4: all the music channels, all of those fun things. And

3056
02:18:42,879 --> 02:18:46,080
Speaker 4: you know, Bucky, we've already had a local station flip

3057
02:18:46,120 --> 02:18:51,280
Speaker 4: to all Christmas music. Kost is already after it as

3058
02:18:51,280 --> 02:18:55,840
Speaker 4: of Friday morning. Really, I'm getting my full run of

3059
02:18:55,879 --> 02:18:58,520
Speaker 4: Dean Martin and everything else already. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's amazing.

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Speaker 3: I mean I would think that you want to at

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Speaker 3: least wait to after I mean, can we wait to

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Speaker 3: after Thanksgiving?

3064
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Speaker 4: It's all about the holiday holiday, holiday season. I think

3065
02:19:09,120 --> 02:19:11,160
Speaker 4: we just kind of looked Thanksgiving there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I walked into a coffee shop and the barista head

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Speaker 3: on a Santa hat.

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Speaker 4: How about that.

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Speaker 1: What are we doing? We're not even We're not Thanksgiving yet.

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Speaker 1: I will say at that.

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Speaker 4: Point, doesn't it seem like generally people are nicer around

3073
02:19:27,240 --> 02:19:29,440
Speaker 4: the holidays? Wouldn't you want to push that as much

3074
02:19:29,440 --> 02:19:31,560
Speaker 4: as you could? I mean Elvis saying about it. Why

3075
02:19:31,560 --> 02:19:34,600
Speaker 4: can't every day be like Christmas? What a wonderful world

3076
02:19:34,680 --> 02:19:35,120
Speaker 4: this would be?

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02:19:36,040 --> 02:19:37,879
Speaker 1: What a wonderful world it would be.

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Speaker 4: I'm all about selling hope and dreams here on a

3079
02:19:41,320 --> 02:19:43,640
Speaker 4: Sunday morning, Get out there, do great things. You've got

3080
02:19:43,640 --> 02:19:47,800
Speaker 4: it up for another opportunity to watch greatness. All right,

3081
02:19:47,879 --> 02:19:50,800
Speaker 4: maybe maybe your your team that you love, uh isn't

3082
02:19:50,920 --> 02:19:53,480
Speaker 4: destined for greatness today, But you can go find some

3083
02:19:53,600 --> 02:19:55,680
Speaker 4: in your own life. Maybe I'll walk around the block,

3084
02:19:56,360 --> 02:19:58,200
Speaker 4: or you know something else that you take in. We

3085
02:19:58,240 --> 02:20:03,040
Speaker 4: did see the movie heretic unsolicited movie thing. I'm starting

3086
02:20:03,040 --> 02:20:06,320
Speaker 4: a Hugh Grant for an Oscar campaign. That's how good

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Speaker 4: he was.

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Speaker 1: He's that good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Suspan's thriller kind of horror, not quite horror, but

3090
02:20:12,320 --> 02:20:14,680
Speaker 4: taking you down that psychological path through the good.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know what. I'm excited to see what's

3092
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Speaker 1: Ladiator too? I never thought I would be excited, you

3093
02:20:21,800 --> 02:20:22,720
Speaker 1: know what I've come around to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the fact that Denzel is going to be

3095
02:20:26,120 --> 02:20:30,400
Speaker 3: in at Denzil kind of talking about like that whole thing.

3096
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Speaker 3: You know, it was one of my favorites I dug

3097
02:20:32,720 --> 02:20:34,480
Speaker 3: in the first time around. So I'm excited to see

3098
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Speaker 3: what it looks like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna visit my folks down in Florida for

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02:20:37,200 --> 02:20:40,560
Speaker 4: the holiday holiday holiday here for Thanksgiving. I think I'm

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02:20:40,560 --> 02:20:42,680
Speaker 4: gonna force my dad to go to the movies. I

3102
02:20:42,680 --> 02:20:44,440
Speaker 4: don't know that he's been since we forced him a

3103
02:20:44,440 --> 02:20:46,840
Speaker 4: couple of years ago to see I don't even remember

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02:20:46,879 --> 02:20:48,520
Speaker 4: what was if to ask my brother, but I was like,

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02:20:48,560 --> 02:20:50,160
Speaker 4: all right, we're kidnapping you. What are we doing. You're

3106
02:20:50,200 --> 02:20:52,440
Speaker 4: going to a movie, getting out of the house. Let's go.

3107
02:20:52,879 --> 02:20:55,520
Speaker 4: So we'll do that again as we descend. All right,

3108
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Speaker 4: guys that are trying to find their way back to greatness.

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Speaker 4: I mean Denzel when he showed up, you know, he's

3110
02:21:00,720 --> 02:21:04,000
Speaker 4: gotta steal some scenes and give you some great performances

3111
02:21:04,320 --> 02:21:08,320
Speaker 4: based on choices that he makes. NFL teams we see

3112
02:21:08,400 --> 02:21:13,360
Speaker 4: with the coaching carousel. Sometimes desperation, the old desperation is

3113
02:21:13,400 --> 02:21:16,400
Speaker 4: a stinky cologne line comes into play, But we're starting

3114
02:21:16,440 --> 02:21:19,920
Speaker 4: to see the wheels turning. I know certainly you're working

3115
02:21:19,959 --> 02:21:24,000
Speaker 4: with the Jaguars. There's no shortage of content out there

3116
02:21:24,520 --> 02:21:27,560
Speaker 4: related to those kinds of things, right, So that's gotta

3117
02:21:27,600 --> 02:21:28,880
Speaker 4: be tough for guys to handle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of noise.

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Speaker 3: Gotta have a level of maturity as players and coaches

3120
02:21:33,520 --> 02:21:36,360
Speaker 3: to deal with some of the conversation that is out there.

3121
02:21:36,480 --> 02:21:39,440
Speaker 3: Do you have the maturity to ignore the noise and

3122
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Speaker 3: focus on the task at hand. I'm curious to see

3123
02:21:42,480 --> 02:21:44,080
Speaker 3: what it looks like when I get to the stadium,

3124
02:21:44,080 --> 02:21:46,440
Speaker 3: because you'll know really early when you're a team that

3125
02:21:46,520 --> 02:21:48,800
Speaker 3: is losing and you're playing against a heavyweight team like

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Speaker 3: the Lions. Look, man, there's gonna be a million reasons

3127
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Speaker 3: for you to lay down. Do you have enough professionalism?

3128
02:21:56,320 --> 02:21:58,760
Speaker 3: Do you have enough toughness about you to show up

3129
02:21:59,160 --> 02:22:02,119
Speaker 3: and compete regardless of what may be hanging over your head?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, some of these weeks for Jaguars players are not

3131
02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:09,080
Speaker 4: only auditions for staying there, but you know, what are

3132
02:22:09,080 --> 02:22:12,320
Speaker 4: you showing on tape for the other thirty one right

3133
02:22:12,400 --> 02:22:15,840
Speaker 4: in these kind of moments. So fourteen, as you said,

3134
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Speaker 4: is the spread and that one forty six and a

3135
02:22:17,640 --> 02:22:20,119
Speaker 4: half your total one of the early games. But that's

3136
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Speaker 4: a job that's out there over in New York. They're

3137
02:22:22,320 --> 02:22:25,520
Speaker 4: writing big thought pieces about the Giants and what would

3138
02:22:25,560 --> 02:22:29,400
Speaker 4: happen if they were to go back on the you know,

3139
02:22:29,520 --> 02:22:33,160
Speaker 4: votes of confidence on Brian Dable, whether it's Bill Belichick

3140
02:22:33,240 --> 02:22:36,520
Speaker 4: or some of the other big thoughts. But to expand

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Speaker 4: the discussion, we know there's going to always be and

3142
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Speaker 4: you know, another seven to nine openings, Bucky. You've got

3143
02:22:42,680 --> 02:22:45,360
Speaker 4: Belichick's name being bandied about, and he does everything he

3144
02:22:45,400 --> 02:22:48,160
Speaker 4: can in front of podiums to campaign for that on

3145
02:22:48,200 --> 02:22:51,160
Speaker 4: a weekly basis. Now with his TV jobs, Rex Ryan

3146
02:22:51,280 --> 02:22:53,200
Speaker 4: keeps trying to throw his hat back in the mix.

3147
02:22:53,400 --> 02:22:55,320
Speaker 4: But a couple of guys we've talked about, you know,

3148
02:22:55,400 --> 02:22:58,200
Speaker 4: kind of obliquely here, Brian Floores. We had the conversation

3149
02:22:58,640 --> 02:23:02,440
Speaker 4: early on for the Viking with their success defensively, we

3150
02:23:02,560 --> 02:23:04,800
Speaker 4: talked to go back to the Lions and what Aaron

3151
02:23:04,840 --> 02:23:08,680
Speaker 4: Glenn has been able to do vance Joseph. They're in Denver.

3152
02:23:09,879 --> 02:23:12,840
Speaker 4: Sean Payton's name casts a pretty big shadow. But I

3153
02:23:12,840 --> 02:23:15,920
Speaker 4: think everybody that's watched this squad has to be impressed

3154
02:23:15,959 --> 02:23:18,520
Speaker 4: with what they've been able to put together defensively, does

3155
02:23:18,560 --> 02:23:21,039
Speaker 4: that earn him another seat at the table?

3156
02:23:23,560 --> 02:23:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

3157
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:28,039
Speaker 3: No, I mean it's interesting what they've been able to do.

3158
02:23:28,480 --> 02:23:30,920
Speaker 3: You know, you just look at how they're playing, what

3159
02:23:30,959 --> 02:23:35,000
Speaker 3: they're doing. It certainly has earned kudos in league circles

3160
02:23:35,000 --> 02:23:37,320
Speaker 3: and normally if you get the buzz going like that, yeah,

3161
02:23:37,320 --> 02:23:38,800
Speaker 3: that gives you enough opportunity.

3162
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so to be curious to watch. Obviously, still got

3163
02:23:42,360 --> 02:23:44,640
Speaker 4: a number of weeks to go, and you know, with

3164
02:23:44,720 --> 02:23:47,879
Speaker 4: some of these teams, they're playing on the razor's edge

3165
02:23:47,920 --> 02:23:50,160
Speaker 4: right that you don't have the same depth, so what

3166
02:23:50,360 --> 02:23:53,760
Speaker 4: perhaps one injury could send things spiraling a little bit.

3167
02:23:53,800 --> 02:23:55,800
Speaker 4: But it's just that curious because we're at that that

3168
02:23:55,879 --> 02:23:59,120
Speaker 4: point of the season, right for some folks, it's already

3169
02:23:59,400 --> 02:24:03,000
Speaker 4: let's cash in our chips. And the hardest part of

3170
02:24:03,040 --> 02:24:06,520
Speaker 4: a fan is trying to recognize what reality is right

3171
02:24:06,600 --> 02:24:08,720
Speaker 4: and part through the raw raw, we still want to

3172
02:24:08,720 --> 02:24:13,920
Speaker 4: win versus At some point it's done, just wave the

3173
02:24:13,920 --> 02:24:17,280
Speaker 4: white flag or as Duke wuid, throw a damn towel, right,

3174
02:24:17,360 --> 02:24:19,840
Speaker 4: going back to Roggy, as we work, because I mean,

3175
02:24:19,840 --> 02:24:21,640
Speaker 4: you've got a lot of teams and it goes back

3176
02:24:21,680 --> 02:24:24,520
Speaker 4: to the earlier conversation we were having with Andy last hour,

3177
02:24:24,680 --> 02:24:27,320
Speaker 4: is you know the haves the have nots, and and

3178
02:24:27,360 --> 02:24:29,920
Speaker 4: where quality of play is and how quickly you might

3179
02:24:29,959 --> 02:24:34,120
Speaker 4: be able to restore some things and recency bias, right,

3180
02:24:34,160 --> 02:24:35,920
Speaker 4: we always do this Like the NBA, look at all

3181
02:24:35,920 --> 02:24:38,240
Speaker 4: these guys that are hurt, Like, well, there's always guys

3182
02:24:38,240 --> 02:24:41,240
Speaker 4: that are hurt and taking time. Is it legitimately worse?

3183
02:24:41,560 --> 02:24:43,720
Speaker 4: Likewise with the NFL, look at all these two and

3184
02:24:43,760 --> 02:24:45,720
Speaker 4: three win teams. How terrible is this?

3185
02:24:45,840 --> 02:24:45,920
Speaker 2: Like?

3186
02:24:46,280 --> 02:24:48,080
Speaker 4: Is it really that much worse? Or are we just

3187
02:24:48,120 --> 02:24:48,960
Speaker 4: consuming it more?

3188
02:24:50,360 --> 02:24:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

3189
02:24:50,600 --> 02:24:52,520
Speaker 3: I think we're consuming it. I think it's a bit

3190
02:24:52,560 --> 02:24:54,600
Speaker 3: of we're consuming it more. I will say this though,

3191
02:24:54,920 --> 02:24:56,440
Speaker 3: like when it comes to you talk about people are

3192
02:24:56,520 --> 02:25:01,760
Speaker 3: hurt and guys not playing and doing that stuff, there

3193
02:25:01,840 --> 02:25:05,879
Speaker 3: is something to the expectation in terms of your availability

3194
02:25:05,959 --> 02:25:08,640
Speaker 3: that has changed, you know, Like people talk about load

3195
02:25:08,680 --> 02:25:10,800
Speaker 3: management and all that other stuff, but there used to

3196
02:25:10,840 --> 02:25:11,480
Speaker 3: be a thing.

3197
02:25:11,320 --> 02:25:13,840
Speaker 1: Where you always were expected to show up or whatever.

3198
02:25:13,920 --> 02:25:16,879
Speaker 3: And basketball people talk about load management and football like

3199
02:25:16,920 --> 02:25:19,560
Speaker 3: it's more a situational and substitutions and those things. But

3200
02:25:20,520 --> 02:25:23,520
Speaker 3: when the expectations change, you get a different level of

3201
02:25:23,520 --> 02:25:24,520
Speaker 3: performance from you guys.

3202
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Speaker 4: He's Bucky Brucks on my carbon here a Fox Sports Radio,

3203
02:25:28,160 --> 02:25:31,080
Speaker 4: Fox Football Sunday. We'd be wrong if we didn't at

3204
02:25:31,160 --> 02:25:34,120
Speaker 4: least take the appreciation moment. I met you mentioned it

3205
02:25:34,200 --> 02:25:36,920
Speaker 4: with Andy as I was driving in and it's one

3206
02:25:36,959 --> 02:25:39,240
Speaker 4: that I had in my notes, and it really sticks

3207
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Speaker 4: going back to longevity and programs and continuity consistency. You know,

3208
02:25:45,240 --> 02:25:47,920
Speaker 4: what we all strive for in our personal lives, and

3209
02:25:48,000 --> 02:25:50,440
Speaker 4: certainly we hope that we get that out of the

3210
02:25:50,480 --> 02:25:54,240
Speaker 4: teams that we you know, blood, sweat, tears, and certainly

3211
02:25:54,320 --> 02:25:58,039
Speaker 4: get siphoned out of our pockets many many dollars along

3212
02:25:58,080 --> 02:26:02,240
Speaker 4: the years. But the Tomlin Harbaugh battle, this is number

3213
02:26:02,280 --> 02:26:06,480
Speaker 4: thirty six. That's just insane. In today's day and age,

3214
02:26:07,040 --> 02:26:10,320
Speaker 4: with the amount of movement we have, the hirings, the firings,

3215
02:26:10,600 --> 02:26:14,119
Speaker 4: the microwave nature of it all in terms of shifting,

3216
02:26:14,120 --> 02:26:16,800
Speaker 4: and obviously collegiately, it would be different because in the

3217
02:26:16,800 --> 02:26:19,000
Speaker 4: old days it was your going conference to conference, so

3218
02:26:19,040 --> 02:26:21,959
Speaker 4: you just might not match up with some great regularity.

3219
02:26:22,160 --> 02:26:24,240
Speaker 4: You know, we always had those big ten matchups. All right.

3220
02:26:24,240 --> 02:26:27,240
Speaker 4: There's Gen Katie and Bobby Knight staring each other down

3221
02:26:27,320 --> 02:26:30,400
Speaker 4: again for another Battle of Indiana. Those kind of things,

3222
02:26:30,400 --> 02:26:33,120
Speaker 4: but those are long in the past, except in this

3223
02:26:33,200 --> 02:26:37,440
Speaker 4: particular little corridor where we get Harbaugh Tomlin thirty six.

3224
02:26:40,200 --> 02:26:43,879
Speaker 3: What I think it speaks to is the importance of

3225
02:26:43,959 --> 02:26:48,920
Speaker 3: consistency and continuity. Both programs, ravens and stealers. They don't

3226
02:26:48,959 --> 02:26:51,520
Speaker 3: believe in a whole lot of turnover and change. They

3227
02:26:51,520 --> 02:26:55,400
Speaker 3: believe in the program, and the program matches from top

3228
02:26:55,440 --> 02:26:58,440
Speaker 3: to bottom, front office, coaching staff, everyone is bought into.

3229
02:26:58,640 --> 02:27:01,480
Speaker 3: Their approaches are aligned.

3230
02:27:01,640 --> 02:27:03,760
Speaker 1: The way they see football is aligned, and so you

3231
02:27:03,800 --> 02:27:05,400
Speaker 1: don't have these things.

3232
02:27:05,400 --> 02:27:07,480
Speaker 3: So with the Pittsburgh still as ord to Baltimore Rivers,

3233
02:27:07,480 --> 02:27:10,800
Speaker 3: you may have a bad year, but it's not of

3234
02:27:11,080 --> 02:27:13,039
Speaker 3: oh my god, we got to blow it up. Hey,

3235
02:27:13,040 --> 02:27:14,240
Speaker 3: we need to have a bad year. We got to

3236
02:27:14,240 --> 02:27:16,600
Speaker 3: improve in these areas. You know, there's a level of

3237
02:27:16,640 --> 02:27:19,800
Speaker 3: trust between everyone in the building that they know like

3238
02:27:19,840 --> 02:27:21,360
Speaker 3: this is an isolated incident.

3239
02:27:21,400 --> 02:27:22,440
Speaker 1: It's not who we are.

3240
02:27:23,520 --> 02:27:26,879
Speaker 3: That's how you're able to get thirty six games against

3241
02:27:26,920 --> 02:27:31,080
Speaker 3: one another because everyone from top to bottom is bought

3242
02:27:31,080 --> 02:27:33,280
Speaker 3: into how we're going to go about doing things.

3243
02:27:33,520 --> 02:27:35,199
Speaker 1: And because of that, it.

3244
02:27:35,080 --> 02:27:37,680
Speaker 3: May get a little rocky, but you don't jump off

3245
02:27:37,680 --> 02:27:39,360
Speaker 3: the ship. You say, hey, we just got to get

3246
02:27:39,360 --> 02:27:41,320
Speaker 3: it back on course, and they go. And so credit

3247
02:27:41,360 --> 02:27:45,199
Speaker 3: to both teams, ownership groups and those things for knowing

3248
02:27:45,879 --> 02:27:48,280
Speaker 3: is a long range planing project. We don't worry about

3249
02:27:48,320 --> 02:27:49,520
Speaker 3: the little short range stuff.

3250
02:27:49,840 --> 02:27:54,160
Speaker 4: Both teams looking to be atop the AFC and keep

3251
02:27:54,200 --> 02:27:58,119
Speaker 4: things rolling through thirty five games. Tomlin twenty and fifteen

3252
02:27:58,120 --> 02:28:02,000
Speaker 4: against Tarbaugh Tomin three and a half point home dog

3253
02:28:02,120 --> 02:28:06,080
Speaker 4: today as those teams get together, key to the game here,

3254
02:28:06,120 --> 02:28:08,320
Speaker 4: I mean, we've seen the moon ball from Russell Wilson.

3255
02:28:08,400 --> 02:28:10,840
Speaker 4: Is that enough? Because you get Mike Williams and George

3256
02:28:10,840 --> 02:28:13,160
Speaker 4: Pickens feeling pretty happy that they can go fight for

3257
02:28:13,240 --> 02:28:14,400
Speaker 4: the you know, their scraps.

3258
02:28:16,280 --> 02:28:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3259
02:28:16,760 --> 02:28:19,840
Speaker 3: And here here's why I'll say that you feel pretty

3260
02:28:19,840 --> 02:28:25,400
Speaker 3: good about it when you are like the Pittsburgh Steelers

3261
02:28:25,440 --> 02:28:26,400
Speaker 3: and you're running.

3262
02:28:26,080 --> 02:28:27,760
Speaker 1: The ball like they run the ball.

3263
02:28:27,920 --> 02:28:32,320
Speaker 3: Anytime you can like throw it down the field, huge opportunities.

3264
02:28:32,400 --> 02:28:35,680
Speaker 3: Dennett forces the defense to maybe change the Baltimore Ravens

3265
02:28:35,760 --> 02:28:38,879
Speaker 3: issues in the secondary, makes it where you better pay

3266
02:28:38,879 --> 02:28:41,400
Speaker 3: attention to the moon ball, because if you're already having

3267
02:28:41,400 --> 02:28:44,920
Speaker 3: a tough time showing and displaying ball skills. The moon

3268
02:28:45,000 --> 02:28:48,120
Speaker 3: ball that Russell Wilson sends will test your ability to

3269
02:28:48,160 --> 02:28:50,920
Speaker 3: snag a fly ball in center field. That's what is

3270
02:28:50,920 --> 02:28:53,120
Speaker 3: going to continue to happen with Mike Williams and George Pickens,

3271
02:28:53,120 --> 02:28:55,080
Speaker 3: those guys, it could be problematic. This is gonna be

3272
02:28:55,120 --> 02:28:57,200
Speaker 3: a really good matchup. I think there may be more

3273
02:28:57,200 --> 02:28:59,800
Speaker 3: points scored then we anticipate for both squads.

3274
02:29:00,000 --> 02:29:02,240
Speaker 4: But I always loved this. This week was one of

3275
02:29:02,240 --> 02:29:04,520
Speaker 4: the great examples of it, Bucky, and you can tell

3276
02:29:04,520 --> 02:29:06,520
Speaker 4: me if I'm completely off base. But a lot of

3277
02:29:06,560 --> 02:29:09,279
Speaker 4: folks citing the look the Ravens only give up seventy

3278
02:29:09,320 --> 02:29:11,320
Speaker 4: three yards per game. It's like, yeah, they give up

3279
02:29:11,360 --> 02:29:15,240
Speaker 4: three hundred via the air. You can pass on them.

3280
02:29:15,240 --> 02:29:18,720
Speaker 4: They don't have a natural pass rush the secondary. I

3281
02:29:18,800 --> 02:29:21,560
Speaker 4: was on and doing the hits in Baltimore before the season,

3282
02:29:21,600 --> 02:29:23,840
Speaker 4: like we don't have a cornerback that could touch anyone,

3283
02:29:24,480 --> 02:29:27,920
Speaker 4: and that was the lamentation. But obviously they score a

3284
02:29:27,920 --> 02:29:29,880
Speaker 4: bunch of points, so you have to play catch up

3285
02:29:29,920 --> 02:29:34,320
Speaker 4: to some degree. But I mean that secondary is Swiss cheese.

3286
02:29:34,720 --> 02:29:38,360
Speaker 4: So for Russell Wilson in theory, an opportunity and for

3287
02:29:38,520 --> 02:29:41,880
Speaker 4: a healthy Friar mooth and maybe Jalen Warren who's been

3288
02:29:41,959 --> 02:29:45,680
Speaker 4: upgraded a little more out of the backfield. We actually

3289
02:29:45,680 --> 02:29:48,320
Speaker 4: get one of these games that approaches that over under total.

3290
02:29:49,879 --> 02:29:50,119
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3291
02:29:50,560 --> 02:29:54,400
Speaker 3: This, Yeah, the anticipation for me is this is gonna

3292
02:29:54,400 --> 02:29:56,680
Speaker 3: be a great game. It's gonna be one of those

3293
02:29:56,720 --> 02:29:59,840
Speaker 3: that we talk about that we live for. In terms

3294
02:29:59,879 --> 02:30:02,600
Speaker 3: of these testy battles. I like him when teams don't

3295
02:30:02,640 --> 02:30:04,279
Speaker 3: like each other. I like him when it's a little

3296
02:30:04,680 --> 02:30:07,480
Speaker 3: you know, contentious and combative and we're going back and

3297
02:30:07,520 --> 02:30:10,600
Speaker 3: forth and his personal Patrick Queen has been dismissed by

3298
02:30:10,640 --> 02:30:12,720
Speaker 3: the Ravens. You're not good enough, so take your tail

3299
02:30:12,760 --> 02:30:15,000
Speaker 3: over to the other side. We don't care, you know,

3300
02:30:15,520 --> 02:30:18,160
Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson, Mike, tell them, what are you thinking about

3301
02:30:18,200 --> 02:30:18,920
Speaker 3: Dante Johnson?

3302
02:30:19,040 --> 02:30:21,480
Speaker 1: Who I never ever seen him in the scout report.

3303
02:30:21,640 --> 02:30:28,120
Speaker 1: I don't even whoa for you.

3304
02:30:30,200 --> 02:30:31,800
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I haven't seen him, you know, I

3305
02:30:31,800 --> 02:30:33,840
Speaker 3: haven't seen him come up that much on the scouting report.

3306
02:30:33,879 --> 02:30:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we'll pay attention to him if he

3307
02:30:35,640 --> 02:30:42,640
Speaker 1: shows up. What backhanded? This so great? Yes, I love

3308
02:30:42,800 --> 02:30:43,760
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff.

3309
02:30:43,840 --> 02:30:45,680
Speaker 4: Well, especially he was a guy that was so h

3310
02:30:46,000 --> 02:30:49,680
Speaker 4: so much an integral part of what you were doing offensively? Now, Yeah,

3311
02:30:49,680 --> 02:30:53,520
Speaker 4: he's a jag. Never heard of him? Could you show

3312
02:30:53,560 --> 02:30:56,760
Speaker 4: me a picture? H He's Bucky Brooks at Bucky Brooks

3313
02:30:56,800 --> 02:30:59,120
Speaker 4: is where you find him on Twitter. All the links

3314
02:30:59,120 --> 02:31:01,000
Speaker 4: to everything he's got going on. Find me over at

3315
02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:03,240
Speaker 4: swallowing gum. Now we turn our attention to a man

3316
02:31:03,360 --> 02:31:05,440
Speaker 4: who's got his finger on the pulse of everything at

3317
02:31:05,520 --> 02:31:07,400
Speaker 4: FL and the sporting world at large.

3318
02:31:07,520 --> 02:31:10,760
Speaker 7: It's Isaac Lohencron. What's up Ilo the pulse? Good morning,

3319
02:31:10,760 --> 02:31:14,119
Speaker 7: Mike Mbucky. The pulse is beating upset upset, because that's

3320
02:31:14,160 --> 02:31:17,360
Speaker 7: what happened across the board in college football on Saturday nights,

3321
02:31:17,400 --> 02:31:20,600
Speaker 7: starting with Kansas winning Goats sixth ranc BYU seventeen to

3322
02:31:20,680 --> 02:31:24,120
Speaker 7: thirteen for BYUS, first lost this season. Kansas started the

3323
02:31:24,200 --> 02:31:26,640
Speaker 7: year two and six, but has since beaten ranked opponents

3324
02:31:26,640 --> 02:31:28,400
Speaker 7: in back to back weeks for the first time in

3325
02:31:28,480 --> 02:31:32,760
Speaker 7: school history BYU last night, Iowa State last week, no

3326
02:31:32,920 --> 02:31:35,959
Speaker 7: upset for number one Oregon they won at Wisconsin sixteen

3327
02:31:36,000 --> 02:31:39,920
Speaker 7: to thirteen. Number twelve Georgia defeated seventh rank Tennessee thirty

3328
02:31:39,959 --> 02:31:43,800
Speaker 7: one to seventeen Ashton genty if thirteenth ranc Boise State

3329
02:31:43,920 --> 02:31:46,280
Speaker 7: ran for one fifty nine and three touchdowns in their

3330
02:31:46,320 --> 02:31:48,520
Speaker 7: forty two to twenty one win at San Jose State.

3331
02:31:48,840 --> 02:31:52,400
Speaker 7: Arizona State knocked off sixteenth rank Kansas State twenty four

3332
02:31:52,440 --> 02:31:56,960
Speaker 7: to fourteen. New Mexico upset eighteenth ranked Washington State thirty

3333
02:31:57,000 --> 02:32:00,680
Speaker 7: eight to thirty five. New Mexico's Devin Dampier one ninety

3334
02:32:00,680 --> 02:32:03,920
Speaker 7: three and three touchdowns, including the game winner with twenty

3335
02:32:03,959 --> 02:32:06,360
Speaker 7: one seconds to play, and Mike en Bucky a shout

3336
02:32:06,360 --> 02:32:10,520
Speaker 7: out to the New Mexico Sports Information Office. I was

3337
02:32:10,640 --> 02:32:15,040
Speaker 7: checking their pronunciation guide just to confirm the proper pronunciation

3338
02:32:15,280 --> 02:32:20,320
Speaker 7: of Devin dam peer, and the pronunciation guide said, and

3339
02:32:20,440 --> 02:32:24,600
Speaker 7: I quote you park a damn boat at the damn

3340
02:32:24,720 --> 02:32:26,000
Speaker 7: peer unquote.

3341
02:32:26,160 --> 02:32:31,199
Speaker 2: Oh thank you, So it's fight there. Creative pronunciation guide

3342
02:32:31,240 --> 02:32:31,840
Speaker 2: in the NBA.

3343
02:32:31,959 --> 02:32:35,320
Speaker 7: On Saturday night, deeron Fox scored forty nine and Sacramento's

3344
02:32:35,360 --> 02:32:38,840
Speaker 7: one twenty one one seventeen whatever Utah one night after

3345
02:32:38,879 --> 02:32:42,359
Speaker 7: scoring sixty hit an overtime loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves.

3346
02:32:42,520 --> 02:32:46,560
Speaker 7: And finally, multiple outlets reported overnight that even though TNT

3347
02:32:46,840 --> 02:32:51,400
Speaker 7: is losing NBA rights after this season, the iconic inside

3348
02:32:51,440 --> 02:32:55,359
Speaker 7: the NBA studio show will continue. It's going to appear

3349
02:32:55,560 --> 02:32:59,160
Speaker 7: after that on ABC and ESPN as part of a

3350
02:32:59,200 --> 02:33:04,279
Speaker 7: settlement of a lawsuit between NBA, the NBA and TNT's

3351
02:33:04,440 --> 02:33:07,720
Speaker 7: parent company. Ernie Johnson, Charles Barkley and Kenny the Jet

3352
02:33:07,760 --> 02:33:11,000
Speaker 7: Smith will remain with the show. Shaquille O'Neal is expected

3353
02:33:11,040 --> 02:33:14,600
Speaker 7: to return as well, pending agreeing to a contract extension.

3354
02:33:14,720 --> 02:33:18,200
Speaker 4: Guys, how about that Charles Barkley gets to save more

3355
02:33:18,240 --> 02:33:21,120
Speaker 4: lives than jobs. Look at that, lucky? How about that

3356
02:33:21,640 --> 02:33:22,760
Speaker 4: the violins are playing?

3357
02:33:23,360 --> 02:33:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, way to follow up? They just continue to find

3358
02:33:25,600 --> 02:33:26,360
Speaker 1: ways to do it.

3359
02:33:26,640 --> 02:33:30,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what this means. It bleeds into

3360
02:33:30,160 --> 02:33:32,800
Speaker 4: that other guy coming in and yelling at them.

3361
02:33:33,440 --> 02:33:38,800
Speaker 3: Uh you know, yeah, uh you know. I think he's

3362
02:33:38,920 --> 02:33:41,879
Speaker 3: negotiating this deal. I think if anything, what do we

3363
02:33:41,920 --> 02:33:43,760
Speaker 3: called it when we're at the table, a little insurance,

3364
02:33:44,400 --> 02:33:46,280
Speaker 3: A little insurance about like hey, if you don't what

3365
02:33:46,480 --> 02:33:51,560
Speaker 3: does we still can.

3366
02:33:49,560 --> 02:33:51,680
Speaker 4: To push things the other way? We can find another

3367
02:33:51,840 --> 02:33:54,840
Speaker 4: as not like that. It's a game of chess, no

3368
02:33:55,000 --> 02:33:56,920
Speaker 4: question about it. And later on, Isaac Low and Cron

3369
02:33:56,959 --> 02:33:59,879
Speaker 4: will be part of the Chargers coverage. Aed Isaac lowan

3370
02:34:01,360 --> 02:34:05,000
Speaker 4: good or bad? He'll take phone calls later from Charger fans,

3371
02:34:05,040 --> 02:34:07,360
Speaker 4: so they'll either be elated or going to work on

3372
02:34:07,440 --> 02:34:10,560
Speaker 4: Monday all salty, and he's there for that therapy.

3373
02:34:10,680 --> 02:34:13,640
Speaker 7: I'll also be attempting to provide deep safety help against

3374
02:34:13,720 --> 02:34:14,680
Speaker 7: Jamar Chase later.

3375
02:34:14,720 --> 02:34:18,199
Speaker 4: By the way, how's that backpedaling looking islo? Not good?

3376
02:34:18,400 --> 02:34:21,520
Speaker 4: All right, we'll watch you warm up in the studio

3377
02:34:21,560 --> 02:34:24,320
Speaker 4: there he's getting his stretching in Bucky no question about it,

3378
02:34:24,680 --> 02:34:27,080
Speaker 4: at Bucky Brooks where you find him on Twitter. Fin'd

3379
02:34:27,120 --> 02:34:29,680
Speaker 4: me over at Swollendum coming out next. We've got a

3380
02:34:29,680 --> 02:34:31,840
Speaker 4: couple more games you want to preview. And then there's

3381
02:34:31,879 --> 02:34:34,240
Speaker 4: that thing going on in college that we've been talking

3382
02:34:34,280 --> 02:34:37,720
Speaker 4: about in the background. And yeah, everybody wants apologies. We

3383
02:34:37,760 --> 02:34:41,920
Speaker 4: already did that, but we'll acknowledge him like he's Roman Reigns.

3384
02:34:42,000 --> 02:34:48,000
Speaker 4: Next here on Fox, Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radios.

3385
02:34:48,040 --> 02:34:51,360
Speaker 4: Fox Football Sunday coming up in about ten minutes from now,

3386
02:34:51,440 --> 02:34:54,960
Speaker 4: football fans keeping locked here Fox Sports Radio, ten am Eastern,

3387
02:34:55,200 --> 02:34:57,720
Speaker 4: seven o'clock Pacific. It's Countdown to kick Off, presented by

3388
02:34:57,720 --> 02:35:02,000
Speaker 4: Bat MGM. It's Brian No, Jeff Professional Better, Bill Krachenberger.

3389
02:35:02,000 --> 02:35:05,360
Speaker 4: They've got you covered three hours before kickoff every Sunday morning,

3390
02:35:06,000 --> 02:35:08,800
Speaker 4: listen to Countdown to Kickoff, presented by bat MGM right here,

3391
02:35:08,959 --> 02:35:13,120
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Mike Harmon alongside

3392
02:35:13,160 --> 02:35:15,640
Speaker 4: Bucky Brooks with you for another couple of minutes, then

3393
02:35:15,640 --> 02:35:18,039
Speaker 4: the guys take over. I Loo will be at the

3394
02:35:18,040 --> 02:35:20,760
Speaker 4: news desk to apprize you of some of the injury updates.

3395
02:35:21,280 --> 02:35:24,560
Speaker 4: San Francisco looks like Trent Williams trending towards trying to

3396
02:35:24,600 --> 02:35:28,480
Speaker 4: play later on George Kittle, we got in the overnight,

3397
02:35:28,879 --> 02:35:31,480
Speaker 4: Bucky that probably not gonna be ready for this battle

3398
02:35:31,520 --> 02:35:35,680
Speaker 4: against a Seattle squad that in week eleven. Not often

3399
02:35:35,720 --> 02:35:37,600
Speaker 4: do we say, hey, what's the identity of a team?

3400
02:35:37,640 --> 02:35:42,560
Speaker 4: I still want to know what are we?

3401
02:35:42,840 --> 02:35:45,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's the thing.

3402
02:35:45,640 --> 02:35:47,760
Speaker 3: That's the thing with a lot of teams, and your

3403
02:35:47,800 --> 02:35:52,200
Speaker 3: identity changes is tweaked. You to your based on what

3404
02:35:52,280 --> 02:35:55,840
Speaker 3: you have right, is tweaked based on who's available to you,

3405
02:35:56,000 --> 02:35:56,520
Speaker 3: the kind of.

3406
02:35:56,480 --> 02:35:58,200
Speaker 1: Things that you want to do.

3407
02:35:58,320 --> 02:36:01,120
Speaker 3: Injuries all that impacted, but you still have a general

3408
02:36:01,680 --> 02:36:03,520
Speaker 3: idea of what your team is about.

3409
02:36:03,520 --> 02:36:05,560
Speaker 1: And if you don't know about week eleven, you have no.

3410
02:36:05,600 --> 02:36:09,160
Speaker 4: Shot, no question about it. A team that we've figured

3411
02:36:09,160 --> 02:36:12,520
Speaker 4: out their identity. We may not love the schedule, and

3412
02:36:12,640 --> 02:36:15,480
Speaker 4: naysayers will do what they want to do. I certainly

3413
02:36:15,480 --> 02:36:17,480
Speaker 4: have had people in the twitter verse that swalling Dome.

3414
02:36:17,520 --> 02:36:20,360
Speaker 4: I'm certainly willing to listen to what you want to say.

3415
02:36:20,840 --> 02:36:23,640
Speaker 4: Dion Sanders, your guy. They're in Colorado up to eight

3416
02:36:23,680 --> 02:36:27,920
Speaker 4: and two with a big win over Utah, Swiss Army

3417
02:36:28,000 --> 02:36:32,440
Speaker 4: knives all those wide receivers. Obviously you're making plays, but

3418
02:36:32,680 --> 02:36:34,640
Speaker 4: this is a team that before the case stay laws.

3419
02:36:34,920 --> 02:36:36,800
Speaker 4: I think it was on me, or maybe it was

3420
02:36:36,840 --> 02:36:40,480
Speaker 4: complaining about the start time whatever did them in that game.

3421
02:36:40,879 --> 02:36:43,200
Speaker 4: I was saying they were making the playoffs, and well,

3422
02:36:43,240 --> 02:36:44,840
Speaker 4: now I look like I was ahead of the curve.

3423
02:36:44,920 --> 02:36:47,600
Speaker 4: So I built the little bandwagon off by myself, and

3424
02:36:47,640 --> 02:36:49,600
Speaker 4: it looks like I need to build a bigger one.

3425
02:36:50,760 --> 02:36:54,200
Speaker 3: No, no, here's what I say about watching Colorado yesterday.

3426
02:36:54,680 --> 02:36:55,680
Speaker 3: They didn't play great.

3427
02:36:55,959 --> 02:36:56,119
Speaker 1: Now.

3428
02:36:56,400 --> 02:36:58,720
Speaker 3: Offensively, it was kind of sluggish, and they put forty

3429
02:36:59,000 --> 02:37:01,000
Speaker 3: nine or whatever points they put on Utah, which is

3430
02:37:01,000 --> 02:37:04,160
Speaker 3: a really physical and aggressive defense. They gave them some problems.

3431
02:37:04,400 --> 02:37:07,320
Speaker 3: But your door was off, like it wasn't a vintage performance.

3432
02:37:07,400 --> 02:37:09,119
Speaker 3: Like even though he finished with over three hundred yards.

3433
02:37:09,120 --> 02:37:11,959
Speaker 3: This wasn't one that NFL scouts would be like, oh,

3434
02:37:12,040 --> 02:37:13,320
Speaker 3: let me get him as the number one over a

3435
02:37:13,360 --> 02:37:16,520
Speaker 3: pick based on that. But what is shown how far

3436
02:37:16,600 --> 02:37:20,119
Speaker 3: this defense has come. The transperporter has been a big

3437
02:37:20,200 --> 02:37:23,879
Speaker 3: hit for Dion. The defense is lights out. They're physical,

3438
02:37:24,000 --> 02:37:29,480
Speaker 3: they can play, and I will say the maturity of

3439
02:37:29,520 --> 02:37:31,440
Speaker 3: the team in terms of taking care of business against

3440
02:37:31,440 --> 02:37:33,840
Speaker 3: the team that you're supposed to be. That was the

3441
02:37:33,920 --> 02:37:35,959
Speaker 3: next step for this team. And I don't know how

3442
02:37:36,000 --> 02:37:37,879
Speaker 3: good they are. I don't know how good they or

3443
02:37:38,120 --> 02:37:40,880
Speaker 3: how they were fair in the postseason, but I do

3444
02:37:41,000 --> 02:37:44,640
Speaker 3: know you've let someone who everyone was on figure out

3445
02:37:44,640 --> 02:37:46,480
Speaker 3: a way to get to eight and two, and if

3446
02:37:46,520 --> 02:37:47,440
Speaker 3: they get to ten and two.

3447
02:37:48,360 --> 02:37:50,680
Speaker 1: Say what you will about Deon Sanders.

3448
02:37:50,840 --> 02:37:53,160
Speaker 3: You can't dispute that he's a good coach because the

3449
02:37:53,160 --> 02:37:55,439
Speaker 3: turnaround doesn't happen just by happenstance.

3450
02:37:55,879 --> 02:37:58,440
Speaker 4: No, it's it. You need buy in. And he's another

3451
02:37:58,480 --> 02:38:00,680
Speaker 4: guy we were talking coaching a little bit a few

3452
02:38:00,680 --> 02:38:04,120
Speaker 4: minutes ago, a guy whose name gets bandied about whether

3453
02:38:04,160 --> 02:38:07,200
Speaker 4: he's the invisible hand for Travis Hunter and his son

3454
02:38:07,240 --> 02:38:11,440
Speaker 4: Shador in terms of the draft process, and anybody that

3455
02:38:11,520 --> 02:38:15,800
Speaker 4: thinks it's only been Eli Manning and John Elway historically,

3456
02:38:15,840 --> 02:38:18,520
Speaker 4: just because we don't get a lot of headlines. Bucky,

3457
02:38:18,520 --> 02:38:20,640
Speaker 4: you've been around the scouting rooms and stuff. You're telling

3458
02:38:20,640 --> 02:38:23,760
Speaker 4: me you're not getting calls and and folks trying to

3459
02:38:23,959 --> 02:38:27,160
Speaker 4: direct things in traffic doesn't mean you always get your way.

3460
02:38:27,280 --> 02:38:29,400
Speaker 4: But let's call it what it is. I mean, it's

3461
02:38:29,480 --> 02:38:32,279
Speaker 4: it doesn't go into a vacuum just once every twenty years.

3462
02:38:34,200 --> 02:38:36,720
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't go away. It's one of those things

3463
02:38:36,760 --> 02:38:38,039
Speaker 3: that you kind of have to see, You kind of

3464
02:38:38,080 --> 02:38:38,920
Speaker 3: have to see him witness.

3465
02:38:39,160 --> 02:38:42,119
Speaker 4: All right, So this week we've got all these big games.

3466
02:38:42,720 --> 02:38:46,160
Speaker 4: I'm eyeballing the Sunday night game because Cincinnati, if they

3467
02:38:46,160 --> 02:38:48,960
Speaker 4: win this one, suddenly they've got a pulse in the

3468
02:38:49,000 --> 02:38:52,879
Speaker 4: AFC outside of the game that you're part of. What's

3469
02:38:52,920 --> 02:38:55,720
Speaker 4: the one that has your rapt attention is a Casey

3470
02:38:55,800 --> 02:38:57,560
Speaker 4: Buffalo or you got something off the board?

3471
02:38:58,400 --> 02:39:00,560
Speaker 3: Now Casey Buffalo has definitely wanted I'm an look at it,

3472
02:39:00,560 --> 02:39:03,080
Speaker 3: but off the board. If you know, if you know

3473
02:39:04,320 --> 02:39:06,520
Speaker 3: the Niners, you know that the Niners forty nine Ers

3474
02:39:06,560 --> 02:39:07,920
Speaker 3: matchup is always a big battle.

3475
02:39:07,920 --> 02:39:09,359
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what that looks.

3476
02:39:09,160 --> 02:39:11,400
Speaker 4: Like forty nine Ers Seahawks. A little bit later, four

3477
02:39:11,440 --> 02:39:14,840
Speaker 4: and five against five and four. McCaffrey back again. Looks

3478
02:39:14,879 --> 02:39:17,800
Speaker 4: like Trent Williams might be there to help boost that

3479
02:39:17,920 --> 02:39:21,640
Speaker 4: offensive line. All of that to say, drama across the board,

3480
02:39:21,800 --> 02:39:24,680
Speaker 4: rivalry week in the NFL At Bucky Brooks, where you

3481
02:39:24,720 --> 02:39:26,520
Speaker 4: find him, always good to talk to you, buddy, have

3482
02:39:26,520 --> 02:39:27,040
Speaker 4: a great call.

3483
02:39:28,560 --> 02:39:29,280
Speaker 1: She'd be fine. Man.

3484
02:39:29,360 --> 02:39:31,120
Speaker 4: There you go, He's Bucky. I'm my count down to

3485
02:39:31,200 --> 02:39:32,400
Speaker 4: kickoff next Top Fox