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Speaker 3: I don't think Scratch is going to be doing as

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Speaker 3: Rabel manage the clock situation. Yeah, yeah, did he go

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Speaker 3: to your school?

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Speaker 4: Pome? Was he graduate?

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Speaker 5: He has not taken the matriculated that I was not

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Speaker 5: taking the course. So we'll see Jerry's out on him.

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Speaker 2: Malcolm was sticking to the coach's decision answer.

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Speaker 4: What was that like for you guys when you were

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Speaker 4: you guys went to that Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: You actually got to watch it?

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Speaker 5: Robbed some more of my Facebook memories that have just

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Speaker 5: been peppering me all week.

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Speaker 3: And I covered that team and that that offense was

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Speaker 3: already on the eighteen offense.

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Speaker 5: Right, take a step back all more time.

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Speaker 4: Drake won the ping pong championship last night. He's a killer.

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Speaker 4: I thin I'm gonna do a roast. I'm gonna try

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Speaker 3: You're gonna do a roast. It's a little aggressive for

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: I just think it's kind of odd super Bowl fair. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's all that.

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Speaker 4: Harding oysters Rockefeller.

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Speaker 5: Not the tenders with no bone.

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Speaker 3: That's that's called a boneus chicken wing.

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Speaker 5: It's a tender. No, it's a tender.

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Speaker 3: It's a chick.

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Speaker 5: Why do you have to be stubborn?

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome into Patriots Unfiltered. That's right, everybody. It's

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Speaker 4: Deuce in the host chair today. Fred is worth is

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Speaker 4: Fred is tropical.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. We're gonna have to try to get

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Speaker 4: Parts unknown body instructed us. I know we got to

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Speaker 4: recap a super Bowl. Of course. The big news Jeremiah

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Speaker 4: Farms resigned this morning, a cording to his agent. So

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Speaker 4: plenty to get here today. But we're officially in the offseason. Guys.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of a nice feeling now. The twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: four seasons back up behind us. Congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles,

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Speaker 4: your world champions and.

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl champions.

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl, just the super Bowl. There's a league in

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Speaker 4: Europe somewhere that maybe we don't know for sure, anybody

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Speaker 4: the Eagles would beat the rain fire or something of

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Speaker 4: that nature. Yeah, Ryan Rain You know, anyway, we're here,

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Speaker 4: Give us a call, give us an email, shout out,

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Speaker 4: just the three of us, guys, and uh, I guess

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Speaker 4: the place to start is the Super Bowl, the Eagles

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Speaker 4: blowing out the Chiefs. I don't want to spoil the

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Speaker 4: results from your from our pregame. What do you call

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Speaker 4: them odds that we were picking, But I felt like

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Speaker 4: I went into that pick of just like I was

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna pick Patrick Mahomes to go off, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: And I kept waiting for it to happen. I kept

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Speaker 4: That was probably the moment for me where I was like,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the biggest upset to me was the fact that

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Speaker 4: Start with the football. What what were your takeaways watching?

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of the talking points out of

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Speaker 3: it was cool to see that become a big talking

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Speaker 4: Do we do that too much? Paul? After a team

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Speaker 5: I agree with everything you haven't said, completely dominant. You know,

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Speaker 4: Retired, excusable retiring. He didn't.

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Speaker 5: That was a fake account, stupid Twitter. That was a

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Speaker 4: Yes, God, they got me.

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Speaker 5: But I will say Jalen Hurts was really really good

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Speaker 5: too many games doing that. I thought Mahomes was terrible. Again,

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Speaker 5: just want to congratulate the Patriots because evidently they won

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Speaker 5: on Sunday based on based on my Twitter Patriots, Patriots won.

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Speaker 5: Congratulations on a four and thirteen season that you won

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Speaker 5: somehow something.

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Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes is out of the conversation. Tom Brady remains

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Speaker 4: the goat, and that'll remain as is, and that.

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Speaker 5: Was going to remain no matter what happened on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Seven titles and seven to four is a big gap.

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Speaker 5: And now it's seven to three still.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I just I got vibes early on in

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Speaker 5: You want to know, the only difference, you know is

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Speaker 5: Philadelphia is vastly better than that Giants team and they

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Speaker 4: if you hear us comment not quite red zone Paull,

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Speaker 5: Got it on meaningful play in the game.

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Speaker 3: So I just going back to the whole team building

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Speaker 3: you don't necessarily have to have the unicorn quarterback to

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Speaker 5: but I'm not sure I would. I'm with Evan, I'm

435
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Speaker 5: not sure I would say, like, well, let's give him,

436
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 5: you know, eighty million dollars to come and be an

437
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 5: off ball linebacker for us. I'm not sure he's gonna translate.

438
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,360
Speaker 4: To me, this all feels the same bucket as overreacting

439
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl winner and looking at how they

440
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 4: did it and saying, well, this is what we have

441
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 4: to do. And not only that, but we also could

442
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,400
Speaker 4: use some of their players because their players are those

443
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,360
Speaker 4: kind of championship you know, guys that had that pedigree. Now,

444
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 4: and I mean Milt Williams made himself a ton of money.

445
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 4: I'm sure same kind of thing. I mean, if I'm

446
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 4: the Patriots, I'm still considering those guys. I think those

447
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 4: guys would fit what they were going to do. You

448
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 4: on defense from Tennessee, if that's what they carry over.

449
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 4: But I want to talk to you guys about Kindnessee,

450
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 4: Like where do you go? Now? I look back at

451
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Speaker 4: ye know.

452
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 5: I've never players on offense that there's no reason that

453
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 5: what Evan described should shut you down. We're gonna run

454
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 5: like everybody's all over and let me just put it

455
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Speaker 5: this way. Let me just open it to Evan, So,

456
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Speaker 5: what would you have done if you were the Chiefs offensively,

457
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 5: Andy Reid, what would you have done to combat that?

458
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Speaker 3: Typically when you go up against Fangio in those types

459
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 3: of defenses, you have to nickel and dime, like you

460
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 3: have to get the you have to go with the

461
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,679
Speaker 3: quick passing game, the underneath passing game, because their whole defense,

462
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Speaker 3: their whole structure is designed to take away big plays,

463
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 3: so that they're they're playing quarters, they're playing soft cover three.

464
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 3: On the back end. All they want to do is

465
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 3: make you march. They don't. They're not going to give

466
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 3: it away to you. So you know, could Patrick Mahomes

467
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 3: have gotten the ball out quicker? Could there have been

468
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Speaker 3: more designs of quick passing and things like that. I'm

469
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Speaker 3: sure there were. Like I said, I didn't like study

470
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Speaker 3: the film closely, but just in general, I think that's

471
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Speaker 3: how they want there. You're kind of playing into his

472
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 3: hands in a way with doing that, But if you're

473
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Speaker 3: really really efficient in doing it, like we've seen the

474
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 3: Chiefs be able to do before, then you can still

475
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 3: pull it off and you kind of shorten.

476
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Speaker 4: I agree with you.

477
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Speaker 5: I agree with everything you said, and I would just say,

478
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Speaker 5: like again, I'm like Evan, I don't. I didn't like

479
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 5: necessarily break this down. It's not my team's you know,

480
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 5: whatever it happened, there's two things that stuck out to me,

481
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Speaker 5: and I've heard a ton of criticism. Well, Andy Reid,

482
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Speaker 5: like he had no adjustments. They just kept rushing four

483
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 5: and they had no what do you like, you have

484
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 5: five offensive linemen to block their four guys? Should I

485
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 5: keep like two tight ends to make it six on four?

486
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 5: Like you need to get the ball out quick, right.

487
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 5: So the first part of it is the offensive line

488
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 5: was horrific, including everybody's favorite Joe Toney.

489
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Speaker 3: All right playing out a position.

490
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Speaker 5: Now he's out of position. Okay, everybody was him because

491
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 5: he's a guard. Yeah, okay, So they got completely overwhelmed

492
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 5: up front. But the bigger problem to me was Patrick Mahomes,

493
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 5: who picked the wrong day to have a really bad game.

494
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 5: He kept trying, to Evan's point, instead of taking the

495
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 5: little dink and dunks, he kept trying to make plays

496
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 5: and he kept trying for kill shots running around that

497
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 5: the pick to dig that like that was awful. That

498
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 5: was Mac Jones like like his little like roll one way,

499
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 5: throwing it back the other way. It was a terrible,

500
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 5: terrible play, just trying to do too much, and when

501
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 5: he wasn't trying to do too much, his guys were

502
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 5: letting him down. I just don't think they're good enough

503
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 5: offensively with their players. Now, maybe that will change when

504
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 5: they get Rice back, But they didn't have guys. I

505
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 5: thought that they played very vanilla defense and they were

506
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 5: not getting over Like you're watching these plays and like, yeah,

507
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 5: he could have caught that, but he's not really open there.

508
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 5: He's like having a you know, the throws are a

509
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 5: little bit low because Kelsey's not the same guy anymore. Yeah,

510
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 5: you know, And he didn't have a good game. Yeah,

511
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 5: I thought he had a couple of plays on third downs.

512
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 5: This whole game could have been a lot different if

513
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 5: you catch a couple of those third down passes early

514
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 5: in the game, right that I thought were catchable. Sure,

515
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 5: and then mahomes man, was he bad. I'm I'll just

516
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 5: say it. I thought he was terrible.

517
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,239
Speaker 3: There was a lot of Patriots vibes of like the

518
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: down years, the down years, I say in air quote

519
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 3: for where like they just didn't have enough offensively and

520
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 3: they were kind of putting it together, whether it was

521
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 3: the offensive line in like twenty fifteen, or it was

522
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 3: the receivers in five six, you know that rang.

523
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think it's a great comedy right where.

524
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: They're just kind of putting it together. And that's what

525
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 3: it felt like with the Chiefs. You know, they trade

526
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 3: for DeAndre Hopkins in season to try to put a

527
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 3: band aid on a bigger wound, and it just didn't

528
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 3: really seem to ever take hold with Hopkins and Travis

529
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Speaker 3: Kelcey to me is nearing the end, if not our

530
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: already there. So he's not a centerpiece item on your

531
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 3: offense anymore. I really like Rice, but he's going to

532
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 3: be coming off a major injury and so we'll see,

533
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 3: and I think we'rethy, you know, prove that he can

534
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: be a good player.

535
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 5: Now.

536
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 3: A lot of that happened in garbage time.

537
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 5: But he had a big next year. Yeah, he had

538
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 5: a good end.

539
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 3: Of the year, really good postseason, So I don't think

540
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 3: it was just the garbage time. I agree, Stat's in

541
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl for him. But they have to shore

542
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 3: up left tackle, like they have to have a real

543
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,719
Speaker 3: solution at left tackle, which they haven't been able to do,

544
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 3: whether that's drafted and develop or signing somebody smith, Yeah,

545
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 3: which is definitely possible.

546
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 4: I just I don't think we've heard the last of

547
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs, but I do there's been

548
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 4: a lot of that. I I mean, we spent I

549
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 4: don't know, we've spent so much time over the last years, really,

550
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 4: you know, just making the constant comparison to the Patriots

551
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 4: and this Chiefs team and based on this game. Do

552
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 4: you does this have some kind of packed on how

553
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 4: you view Patrick? I know, well he'll be back, but

554
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 4: that is this just a one off? I mean, is

555
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 4: there any truth to what people are saying about? Well, Patriots?

556
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 4: Then we got blown out like that, Like they always

557
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 4: kind of made a run. They always kind of found

558
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 4: out before. Yeah, right, and what did that do? They

559
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 4: went to like three of the next four. But do

560
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 4: you think that this is something that is a characteristic

561
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 4: of their run that's going to be talked about that?

562
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know. You know, you guys can talk.

563
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: It depends on how many they actually end up winning,

564
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 3: I guess. But like I think the biggest thing to me,

565
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: and I said this on Cash twenty two last week,

566
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: it was just getting kind of annoying that that was

567
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 3: the prevailing narrative out of this game was is this

568
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: the greatest dynasty we've ever seen? Not because I necessarily

569
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 3: think that they don't deserve their flowers, but it just

570
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: it just was like, this is the only topic we

571
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: have to talk about.

572
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 5: I just think we're just trying to make it about us,

573
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 5: Like how can we get into this, how can we

574
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 5: get emotionally? It's like, did you see Jim Murray yesterday? Yeah,

575
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 5: Like Jim Murray was hilarious.

576
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 4: Positively.

577
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: There for two weeks down Kansas City. Kansas City, Like

578
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: there was real conversation happening on your station last week

579
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 3: about whether or not the Chiefs were a better dynasty

580
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 3: than the Patriots and at this point, but no, it

581
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: overall it was all.

582
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 5: Station more than any homes or Brady.

583
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 3: It will see your gronk correct as of now, and

584
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 3: as of now, it's not close.

585
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 5: No, it is the seventh the seven year period is

586
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 5: better for Kansas City than it wasn't. Okay, but but

587
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 5: that's half of that. But that's what they're happening there.

588
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 5: But that's what they're comparing. I don't think so you

589
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 5: don't like, don't fall into the trap of listening to

590
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 5: the bomb bast That's what they were comparing, is the

591
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 5: first seven start?

592
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: Would you rather Andy Reid er Bill Belichick?

593
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 5: Well, that one's that one's the the entirety because it's

594
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 5: comparable the other one. One guy who's only played seven

595
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 5: years but Brady played twenty. Like it's only it's it's apples, grapefruits.

596
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: I understand why people like Jim Murray and other Patriots

597
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: fans are now taking I thought that was two Dolphins

598
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: taking their victory lap whenever the last undefeated team loses

599
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 3: the game.

600
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 5: Right, it's not even close. It's the exact same one

601
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 5: thing never happened, you know. I understand why Miami does it,

602
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 5: and I think they're kind of tool bags for doing

603
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 5: it too.

604
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 4: To be honest, Therury Morris.

605
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 3: I understand why if you're one of those Patriots fans

606
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: that's that's taking a victory lap right now and saying, see,

607
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 3: you are a little premature with all of that talk,

608
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: weren't you? And I'm right there with you. I don't

609
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 3: I think it, don't think you take you take your time,

610
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: you deserve it.

611
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 4: What do you what would you do if you're Kansas City? Though?

612
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I like, like last year. We're kind of

613
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 4: jealous they got Sue Matia, right, I felt like they

614
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 4: got the guy, and then you know, it's just to me.

615
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 4: It also illustrates that even when you're taking the moves

616
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 4: that makes sense, maybe the moves that we would have

617
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 4: liked in the draft, it's not always gonna work out

618
00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 4: with what if.

619
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 5: That's if that's the guy, Like, that's what these other

620
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 5: teams have done, that's what the Eagles did at center.

621
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 4: Stick with them. You get a.

622
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 5: Second round guy to replace the guy in maybe two

623
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 5: years down the road, three years down the road, he's

624
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 5: the guy.

625
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 4: I guess the question I wondered if he.

626
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 5: Wasn't good when he played as like out of the shoe? Yeah,

627
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 5: has he even played since September?

628
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: Right? Well, that's what That's what I'm kind of getting at,

629
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 4: because you know, I went on again with our Kim

630
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 4: last night talking a little bit about last year's draft class.

631
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 4: So you know, is the Chiefs or the Chiefs more

632
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 4: likely to invest in Sue ma teer give him another

633
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 4: chance than the Patriots are with Kaden Wallace on the

634
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 4: right side. I mean, similar kind of disappointing years. I

635
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 4: can't go exactly Apple's taples of who played what and

636
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 4: how well?

637
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 5: But to get a chance to play, Yeah, but.

638
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 4: Can you take more time when you don't know if

639
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 4: you know it's going to be good. But I think I.

640
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 3: Think if you're the Chiefs, you take less time because

641
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: you're in a win now mode where you know you

642
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 3: can't afford to just put out a rookie there just

643
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: for developmental purposes. And I think this was down the stretch.

644
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: And I know Cayden Wallace had his injuries and had

645
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: issues staying healthy. But you know when you see them

646
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: rolling out guys like Trade Jacobs and guys like Vederian Lowe,

647
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: and it's like, these guys aren't part of the future.

648
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: They're not They're not gonna be here. Whereas with the Chiefs,

649
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 3: it's like, how can we get the best five offensive

650
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: linemen on the field to play in the Super Bowl?

651
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Speaker 3: Like not worrying about the best five.

652
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Speaker 5: For which if you know, and I'll be I'll be honest,

653
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 5: like that's why Joe Toney's playing tackle, right. Were just

654
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 5: shooting a shot to try to get the five best

655
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 5: out there. It didn't work there, you know, at the start,

656
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Speaker 5: but they got away with it against Buffalo. They didn't

657
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 5: get away with it. Against Philly.

658
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: There were conversations about I can't remember the exact combination

659
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: of players, but there there were. They did have some

660
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: options to kick Tuney back inside and start a different

661
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: maybe Kings, you know, Sue Matia again or something like that. Again,

662
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 3: I don't know the exact particulars, but they decided to

663
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Speaker 3: stick with Tuny at left tackle, and it was kind

664
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Speaker 3: of disastrous, Like, not only was he not very good,

665
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Speaker 3: that the other guy wasn't good. The left guard replacement

666
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: wasn't good either, So they kind of made two spots

667
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: weaker by doing that.

668
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 5: But which is why I wouldn't have done it. I

669
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Speaker 5: would have lived with DJ Humphreys at left tackle, and

670
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Speaker 5: I would have let Mahomes at least go in and say, well,

671
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 5: I know I'm gonna be okay in the middle. The interior,

672
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 5: I'm not going to face anything, you know there, but

673
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 5: I'll have to worry about the edges this. You had

674
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 5: to worry about everything.

675
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 4: As we've learned the Patriots most important part don't let

676
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 4: that instant pressure run right up. So game out a

677
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 4: little bit out of the way. But I gotta ask

678
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 4: you guys, about your game watching experience, your food.

679
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, how is your roast?

680
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 4: That's a long story. No, no, it turned out fine.

681
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 4: I can't believe you did a roast well, And it

682
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 4: turned out it wasn't exactly a roast. I mean what

683
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 4: happened was I have my eye on a certain product

684
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 4: at Trader Shows, which turned out to be a pre

685
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 4: cooked roast. So I just threw this little box of

686
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 4: meat into the oven and heated it up for about

687
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 4: twenty minutes, and everyone was very happy. So I didn't

688
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 4: exactly make a roast. I kind of just had like

689
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 4: a pre made beefing. So it didn't quite work out

690
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 4: that well.

691
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 5: But I I made some taco dip Joe's pre cooked roast.

692
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 5: I remind me not to take up any of those

693
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 5: Super Bowls.

694
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: But I said you were going to make a roast.

695
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: I was with you.

696
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 4: I know, you know how you're like looking down the

697
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 4: barrel of like this is gonna be an all day affair.

698
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to have like meet thermometers and stuff

699
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 4: trying to figure out how to make that perfect pink.

700
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Speaker 4: And then you know the thing I have my eye

701
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Speaker 4: on was I'm like, oh crap, it's already I thought

702
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 4: this was something I was gonna have to cook, but

703
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 4: it's pre It was not only pre cooked, it was pre.

704
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 3: Sliced as well.

705
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 4: I don't even have to cook things. So lazy, but

706
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: it worked out fine. Let's work, get to watch the

707
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 4: game plenty of the game. Made some taco dip as well,

708
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 4: so you know, I did work some apps in there.

709
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 4: I know Fred will be upset with me not not

710
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 4: having all the apps, but.

711
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 3: We did apps. We were at a bar Chicken. You

712
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: went to a bar, local establishment with with Barthy watched it.

713
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 5: All coming together.

714
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: We watch the Super Bowl together every year. I know

715
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: it's adorable.

716
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 5: They did the kid and play dance after my homes

717
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 5: got sacked.

718
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: But after Zavante Smith touchdown. That was probably the most

719
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: excited that we were as a as a table because

720
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: that that was like we were kind of joking about

721
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: twenty eight to three when it was like twenty seven

722
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 3: twenty and so lots of that.

723
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 5: I saw a meme about that, and they put the

724
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Speaker 5: two scores. It was twenty eight to three with like

725
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 5: two in change in the third quarter in twenty such.

726
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 4: I made the t shirts come such a loser.

727
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 5: Twenty seven to nothing with like two in change, and

728
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 5: I'm thinking to twelve, Kansas City actually scored twenty two

729
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 5: points and the rest of the game like it wasn't all.

730
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 5: They were down by more points than the Patriots were

731
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 5: and they didn't quite get you know, but the bigger

732
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 5: thing was Philly just kept scoring Like that makes it

733
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 5: even more ridiculous that they scored twenty two points in

734
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 5: the last quarter plus you know whatever. Now it was

735
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 5: all garbage time, complete garbage time. I don't think even

736
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 5: a single point was scored while the Eagles were engaged.

737
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 5: Was all garbage.

738
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 4: I was in krib they scored. I was in Cryberry,

739
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 4: crybaby Patriots mode at that point because I was like,

740
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 4: of course they're gonna they're gonna offset twenty eight to three.

741
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 3: It's gonna be better than twenty eight to three.

742
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: But then I was gonna make it.

743
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 5: Possibly even spend one second thinking that that was gonna

744
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 5: happen back game because Patrick.

745
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 3: Tom Brady, he tells me Patrick Mahomes is just as

746
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: good the old station.

747
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 5: And I just told you he did what Brady did.

748
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 5: The defense didn't do what Brady's defense did. They didn't

749
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 5: take the ball away and give him short fields. They

750
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 5: didn't They didn't stop them Brady, but he scored like

751
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 5: Brady scored twenty five points in the last seventeen minutes

752
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: and Mahomes scored twenty two. He was down by more

753
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 5: and didn't have any help from the defense the way

754
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 5: that Brady did.

755
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 4: You're making me feel worse about it now.

756
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 5: I just can't believe that you spend any time, even

757
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 5: worrying for a split second, that Mahomes can pull off

758
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 5: this miracle. He was so bad in that game. He

759
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 5: was way worse than Brady was in the first half

760
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 5: of the in a game way worse. There was no

761
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Speaker 5: indication that Mahomes was going to do that.

762
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: But mostly we did do apps just to let you

763
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Speaker 3: know what we have.

764
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 4: Boneless chick.

765
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: No, no, we did. We did bone and wings. Good

766
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: for you, congratulations like adults.

767
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 4: Like adults.

768
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 5: We did underrated credit.

769
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 3: Underrated app pretzel bites or like soft pretzel.

770
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 4: Beer sauce or something.

771
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, honey mustard, underrated some buffalo chicken dip was it

772
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: was at the table, always always good, always good. So

773
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: we we had a good time. It was it's an

774
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 3: annual tradition.

775
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 4: Hey, Patriots fans, if you want to see Toyota's best offers,

776
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,719
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777
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778
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 4: the official vehicle of the New England Patriots, Toyota. Let's

779
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 4: go places. Do you guys have any any drinks while

780
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 4: you were there? Because if you did, you shout out

781
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 4: of bud Light, which is easy to drink, easy to enjoy.

782
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 4: Bud Light, the official beer sponsor of the New England Patriots.

783
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 4: Got some reads out of the way right there we

784
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 4: go did not have any less seamless.

785
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 5: I had a handful of millow Lights, but a little wine.

786
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 4: Not really. I didn't really like going out after I

787
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 4: rough my games.

788
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 5: I was your legs crossed in that way that you

789
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 5: tend to do this.

790
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: I notice he's not doing it.

791
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 4: Sorry, I don't want to like Paul puts his foot

792
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 4: on the furniture like I thought your mom would yell

793
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 4: at you for that.

794
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: I think your elbows off the table.

795
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 4: How comfortable are you?

796
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 7: Like?

797
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 4: Let's go?

798
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 5: They did do a not comfortable at all in these chairs.

799
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: They did a pizza eating contest at halftime, and this

800
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: is when I decided that maybe it was time time

801
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: to slow down. You were getting that the noons a

802
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: little bit because they were starting to creep up on

803
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: on Kendrick in the halftime show, and I was like,

804
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: if they don't put the volume on the game back

805
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: on for the halftime show, I'm going to lose it.

806
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 3: And I might have screamed across the bar to tell

807
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 3: them to the pizza contest, but luckily they ended it

808
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 3: right right on time. But like, did we really need that?

809
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 3: That was my one, my one nippick.

810
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 4: Of my Well have you brought up the halftime show?

811
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna look, I don't know

812
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 4: anything about the beef with Drake. I needed cliff notes

813
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: for it. I thought it was fine. I I to me,

814
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 4: it was every Super Bowl halftime show I've ever watched

815
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: or not watched. But you know, I know there's a lot.

816
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 5: Of the person on the planet who knows less about

817
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 5: pop culture.

818
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 4: I'm embracing my ignorance in this regard because it feels

819
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 4: like it's gonna save me from getting into any arguments.

820
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 4: Because I was just like, I don't know what's going on,

821
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 4: but that sounds fine.

822
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a brief statement to me, Yeah, but

823
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 5: I liked it, didn't love it, that's all, ev Flo.

824
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 3: I thought that the cellist could have been better. I

825
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: thought that he didn't He went with the Let's kill

826
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: Drake Slash promote my current album intor approach, which I

827
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: I totally can can understand. But for you know, us

828
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: O G. Kendrick fans like you would have liked to

829
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 3: have heard some more hits. But the hits of the

830
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: of the hits, you know, kid Mad City to Pimp

831
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Speaker 3: a Butterfly, you know, Section eighty, maybe have it that one,

832
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: you know, like anything from those you know, like Humble

833
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: and DNA are like party starters, So I get that,

834
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: like I get that those those are mixed in there,

835
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: but I thought some of the other songs, and obviously,

836
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 3: you know, he had Luther with with SiZ because he

837
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 3: had to you know, include in the performance, so that

838
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 3: that was important. But you know, in general, that's how

839
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 3: I felt. I thought it was a very good performance,

840
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 3: but I thought the set list could have been tweaked

841
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 3: a little bit to make it a little bit more

842
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: for the casuals, to like make it a little bit

843
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: more exciting, like, you know, a little bit more energy

844
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: because I feel like that's the big the big the

845
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 3: hating that I've heard a lot of is that it

846
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: was kind of low energy ish.

847
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I like I said, I liked it,

848
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 5: I didn't love it. It wasn't moved I gavi. You know,

849
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 5: there was a lot of stuff that wasn't from so

850
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 5: I know, I'll just stay in my lane. Uh, definitely

851
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 5: wasn't from my Mike has no at least I at

852
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 5: least I know, like the Drake.

853
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 4: He doesn't like Drake. And then I was like, oh,

854
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 4: I told these guys not.

855
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 5: Liking it a little bit.

856
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 4: That's I was Serena Williams. What's she doing here? She's

857
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 4: doing a little dance, Like I don't know, I you know,

858
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 4: I find there's all, you know, there's all kinds of

859
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 4: subtexts going on. So I apologize that he's.

860
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 3: Also from Compton, which is where Kendrick is from.

861
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay. And it was this west coast, East coast

862
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 4: thing we're talking about.

863
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: No, it's not Drakes from.

864
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 4: Canada, Wayne Canada and Canada. As they say commercials, I

865
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 4: don't really know when the good commercial is supposed to

866
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 4: go on. You know, the commercials just come on I'm like,

867
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: what are the good ones? Where are the expensive ones?

868
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 4: We're the ones that I'm supposed to pay attention. The

869
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 4: only one that really stood out to me was the

870
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 4: Duncan one, which I kind of was like, I wanted

871
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 4: to see a little more. And then Jordan shows up

872
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 4: with Bill and I thought that was great.

873
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: Thought that was great.

874
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 4: I love seeing Jordan there. I know.

875
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 5: Only thing I thought I thought Jeremy Strong was funny.

876
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 5: Now I don't even know if it was the one

877
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 5: on TV.

878
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 4: I know because there are a bunch of I saw

879
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 4: a clip.

880
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 5: That was like a seven minute clip on YouTube yesterday

881
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 5: and the only thing that made me even smirk, let

882
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 5: alone laugh smile was Jeremy Strong doing like the method

883
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 5: acting things coming out of their coffee. And you know,

884
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 5: maybe it's because I liked him, and I really liked

885
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 5: him in succession, but I'm the eldest boy, like I

886
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 5: just I like him. The rest of it did nothing

887
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 5: for me. The little kid was Okay, this is a

888
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 5: kid from I guess he's from Gloucester. Oh oh yeah,

889
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 5: make fun of them, you know.

890
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 4: I know I need to, I need to. I don't know.

891
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 4: There there was last year's I liked with having Brady

892
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 4: in it and David. I don't know that last year's

893
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 4: made me chuckle with Brady just being on the on

894
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: the scratcher. But I was so primed up with Jordan

895
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 4: after she was at NFL Honors last week and then

896
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 4: when she popped up, I was like, of course, of

897
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 4: course Bill's like, I'll do it, but put her in

898
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 4: it too.

899
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 7: Yeah.

900
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: I thought the best commercial was Seal as Seal. I

901
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 3: thought that that was funny, but also so it was

902
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: the I think it was a Mountain Dew commercial, Baja

903
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: Blast and you know this the singer Seal right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

904
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: very very good, like that Dunkings I thought had potential,

905
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 3: but I just I don't understand.

906
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 4: And goes for it like I respect, like Ben goes

907
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 4: for it in those that like I like he totally.

908
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 3: I thought it was better with Damon. I thought it

909
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 3: was better with him than with his brother. And I

910
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: also this is me now, like it's like did the

911
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: Jordans include like I just why, like who, like she's

912
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 3: famous for nothing? They didn't give her a line dating Bill,

913
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: like he just doesn't need to be here. But yeah,

914
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: that's okay, that's not it's not that big of a deal.

915
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 4: All right, well, you guys chime in on all this stuff.

916
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 4: Patty's been holding on for a bit. We'll check in

917
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 4: with him to kick things off, as we often do.

918
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 4: Patty and aguam, Hey, Patty, Hey, what's going on. Let's

919
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 4: getta do the fred Patty. That's not like you usually

920
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 4: He's ready.

921
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's not to go on.

922
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 4: I started to call back.

923
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 5: This is why I seriously wish he was talking to

924
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 5: you guys here, because I didn't. I feel like I

925
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 5: didn't really see most of the commercials. The only thing

926
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 5: I watched, like I said, but yesterday I watched the

927
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 5: Duncans dunkings thing. I didn't really see most of the

928
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 5: other ones. I mean, I saw the visual. That's why

929
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 5: I knew when he said seal as seal, I knew

930
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 5: what you were talking about. I didn't really hear the like.

931
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: I get it is that theing on with the Wiener

932
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 4: dogs running. There are a bunch of Wiener dogs, like

933
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 4: actual hot dogs.

934
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 3: Now did you watch the Super Bowl?

935
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 4: I mean, not the commercial.

936
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 5: I was busy doing a rose.

937
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 4: I already told you guys, But for the audience, my

938
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 4: favorite part of Super Bowl is my wife who doesn't

939
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 4: really pay attention to much football. Really, she was all

940
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 4: in because she bought six squares for her company super

941
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 4: Bowl Squares thing, and so the whole end of the game,

942
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 4: you know, there's all this random scoring going on, and

943
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 4: all of a sudden it was like, oh my god,

944
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 4: if Kansas City gets this two pointer, I'm gonna win

945
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 4: the squares. So they got it. So congratulations to Laane,

946
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 4: my my wonderful uh wife who won the Super Bowl

947
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 4: Squares a couple hundred bucks for her I was not

948
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 4: involved in that that we're not allow it's her company thing.

949
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 4: The money went right to her account. I can't even

950
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 4: touch it, as I've been informed, but it was kind

951
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 4: of fun. Your wife a divorce account, that's your private

952
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 4: that's your slush We both have our own slush funds.

953
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 5: I thought it was all like why not what the

954
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 5: checking account that I draw from has both of our

955
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 5: names on it.

956
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 4: Uh huh, Like why why do you?

957
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 5: Why do you have a divorce account? Where are you going? Oh?

958
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's we both have just our own

959
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 4: little side checking accounts with a weekly little dot stipend

960
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 4: that you know, if you want to buy something nice

961
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 4: for yourself, like, that's your money. Do whatever you want.

962
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 5: I don't have that.

963
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 4: No, you can't put like, oh, I'm going to go

964
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 4: spend one thousand dollars on this from the you know,

965
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 4: from the main fund. It's too much, you know, so

966
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 4: side side funds, Paul, you tell her it's too much.

967
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 4: I don't know, you're gonna have to do all this fifties.

968
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 5: Husband's like, no, second.

969
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 4: This is how it's going to work him now. Everybody

970
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 4: hates talking money though, right, it's yeah, freaking worse. Yeah,

971
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 4: you know, Patty's back. Patty's back. Hey, Patty, what happened?

972
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 5: Hey? You god damn? Oh no, maybe it's a deuce

973
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 5: is show.

974
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 4: We just can't hear. Oh no, Patty, hold on technical difficulties.

975
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 5: There before forget Oh we can't here.

976
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 4: We just what do you think he would be saying? Though,

977
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 4: if he was calling in to take his victory lap over.

978
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 5: He knew the Eagles would win. He had them forty

979
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 5: one to twenty two. It's a little off, so there

980
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 5: was a touch field goal instead of a touchdown there. Yeah,

981
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 5: he knew Mahomes is going to sink. We'll never know

982
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 5: because you can't hear, Patty. They can't hear you.

983
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 4: I have to replace their effort this and uh, we'll

984
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 4: try to get back to you after after our after

985
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 4: our lunch break, nobody's maybe nobody's getting lunch today, but

986
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 4: we'll just do a random break in fun. I did

987
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 4: not get a lunch? Is that the host job every

988
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 4: day to order from place?

989
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 5: I know, like evn't brought in a sandwich. Sometimes you do.

990
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 4: That, sometimes I have, but not That was my New

991
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 4: Year's resolution, but not not this time.

992
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 5: Per se February.

993
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 4: So here we are, guys, off season, and I know

994
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 4: Evan and I will be heading down to the to

995
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 4: the Combine. That very exciting two weeks, two weeks from today,

996
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 4: two weeks. And we should also point out there's not

997
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 4: gonna be any Paul on Thursday's show, so you know,

998
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 4: be ready might be kids show, get Alex Tamara.

999
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 5: That's not going to be here Thursday either, Yeah right, yeah.

1000
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 4: So prepare yourselves for that as we get ready to

1001
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 4: embark on the off season. And yeah, like I said,

1002
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 4: we're getting ready for the for the Combine again, f

1003
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 4: this is gonna be a little exciting call into the show. Paul,

1004
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 4: of course, give deliver our thoughts. I did a bunch

1005
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 4: of draft research this weekend. Anchor the coverage anchor the

1006
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 4: coverage here back to at the home base. But I

1007
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 4: did want to talk a little little draft little just

1008
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 4: a little, just a little bit. Yeah, no, well I

1009
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 4: just I think just want one big, one big. Well

1010
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 4: this is all right, Yeah.

1011
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 5: It doesn't give me any draft takes.

1012
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 4: It's like, well I came up with this one. So look,

1013
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 4: you guys call make fun of me, and but I

1014
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 4: like to do what I do do. But I finally

1015
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 4: just drove dove in on Travis Hunter, you know, just

1016
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 4: really watched him, read everything I could, tried to just

1017
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 4: look at him as a receiver and as a cornerback.

1018
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 4: And my pitch to you guys, because everyone's trying to

1019
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 4: figure out receiver cornerback, what if he's a third down player.

1020
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 4: He plays third down on offense and he plays third

1021
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 4: down on defense, and that's it to start. I mean,

1022
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 4: of course, get down to the end. You might need

1023
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 4: a little bit more. But what if I pitch it

1024
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 4: like that he's gonna be our third down that it's

1025
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 4: hard to be. It's hard to get him to practice

1026
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 4: it right because you're kind of doing the same at

1027
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 4: the same, but that's my pitch. That's my pitch play

1028
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 4: him on third down.

1029
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 5: I don't love it. I just think he is.

1030
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 3: I've not heard that.

1031
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you guys something you don't know.

1032
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 4: But he is explosive, he is athletic, He goes up

1033
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 4: and get that's the ball. Uh. And I just, you know,

1034
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 4: I've been a little lukewarm on it because it feels

1035
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 4: a little bit like a project to me. And that's,

1036
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 4: you know, having not really watched him and been wowed

1037
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 4: by him as much as everyone else probably in the

1038
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 4: world has watching him. If he's there at four, I say,

1039
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 4: it makes sense regardless of some of the project, with

1040
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 4: which side of the ball he's gonna play, what's he

1041
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 4: gonna do? And my thought was just and I you know,

1042
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 4: I kind of kid about the third down thing, but

1043
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 4: just in my mind, that's the down where games are

1044
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 4: impacted the most. And I feel like that guy can

1045
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 4: make an impact on both sides of the ball, whether

1046
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 4: he just comes on on third down on defense and

1047
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 4: plays in the slot and you've got all of a sudden,

1048
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 4: a super athletic playmaker near the line of scrimmage. That's

1049
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 4: going to be disrupting things, not too much, unlike what

1050
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 4: Cooper de Jean did a little bit this year. And

1051
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 4: then on the other side, all of a sudden, you've

1052
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 4: got a guy that people have to contend with. He

1053
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 4: is an issue, and you got to know how you're

1054
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 4: gonna cover him, because I feel like in a lot

1055
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 4: of ways he is uncoverable, and even when he is covered,

1056
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 4: it seems like he finds a way to make the ball.

1057
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 4: So I came around on Travis Hunter a little bit

1058
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 4: this week, which is stupid. I know everyone else has

1059
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 4: already been try to come to these things on my own,

1060
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 4: and that was where I landed with him. And I

1061
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 4: still love Abdul Carter. But one last draft point I'll

1062
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 4: make is just I think the Patriots need a lot

1063
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: on defense, especially as they transition maybe to a different scheme.

1064
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 4: And I just think whether it's somebody who's going to

1065
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 4: play with their hand down on the dirt as a

1066
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 4: defensive end, or somebody who's gonna play standing up off

1067
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 4: the edge on the weak side, that there are a

1068
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: lot of different options to consider in the draft, especially

1069
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 4: as you get into that thirty three thirty fourth overall pick.

1070
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 4: I think there's probably gonna be a couple guys there

1071
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 4: on those positions. I don't know if that impacts how

1072
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 4: you approach free agency and you say, maybe we don't

1073
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 4: give Josh Wett too much money because there are a

1074
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 4: bunch of these guys, But you know what I mean

1075
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 4: Like that, to me, those position groups just stood out

1076
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 4: because it's it's really like you talk about edge, but

1077
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 4: I think it's really two different positions within this defense

1078
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 4: where we talk why nine guys guys who can just

1079
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 4: get like my can get off the edge and you're

1080
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 4: not immediately going to have to ask him to play

1081
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 4: the run, to play early downs. I mean, yes, you'd

1082
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 4: love him to, which I think you could with Abdul Carter.

1083
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 4: But even if you don't get Abdul Carter, I think

1084
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 4: there are some options that can impact this defense and

1085
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 4: help ease that transition really quickly.

1086
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are two good points. That's very separate. But

1087
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 3: like to start with Travis Hunter, I think he's one

1088
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 3: of those players to me where it's the best player

1089
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 3: available situation and if he's there at four, like this

1090
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: is just not the year where you have a ton

1091
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 3: of options of that caliber prospect where you know you're

1092
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 3: like last year, you could get picky between do you

1093
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 3: want Jolt, do you want Malik Neighbors, do you want

1094
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 3: real ma Adonze, Like you could maybe decide a little

1095
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 3: bit more between those guys, whereas this year it's Carter,

1096
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 3: it's Hunter, and I believe there's a drop off after that.

1097
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 3: I think that there is a little bit of a

1098
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 3: drop off to the next wave of guys. And so

1099
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 3: if you have an opportunity to draft one of those two,

1100
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: Carter or Travis Hunter, I mean to me, that's to

1101
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 3: run the card up situation, right, Like, that's you've got

1102
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 3: to make that pick. You know, where does he play

1103
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. It's kind of a

1104
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 3: we figured this out as we go later, and I

1105
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: know that scares some people. It definitely scares Barth and

1106
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 3: we get into it all the time on Catch twenty

1107
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 3: two about this, because you know, he is like, you

1108
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 3: got to have a plan, you have to have a plan.

1109
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 3: And I don't necessarily disagree, but you know, at the

1110
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 3: same time, maybe he feels like he's a better receiver

1111
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 3: than he is a corner, and then he gets into

1112
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 3: the league and realizes it isn't working at wide receiver

1113
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 3: and now you have this ability to then transition him

1114
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 3: to the other side of the ball and you still

1115
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 3: have a chance to hit on the pick. And I

1116
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 3: think that's intriguing as well. But ultimately, with Travis Hunter,

1117
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: I think what you come back to is that you're

1118
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 3: gonna get a really good player no matter which side

1119
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: of the ball he plays on. But the question is,

1120
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 3: are you kind of sapping his superpower by not playing

1121
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 3: him both ways? Like, is that what truly makes him

1122
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 3: unique is that he plays both ways? Or can he

1123
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 3: be good enough at one position that it's worth to

1124
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 3: pick no matter what, Because if he can only be

1125
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 3: great by playing both ways, then you have to third

1126
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 3: downs or like you have to come up with the

1127
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: creative plan to be able to do something like that.

1128
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 4: I think the hard thing right now too, is you're

1129
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 4: thinking about Travis Hunter coming onto this team kind of

1130
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 4: in a vacuum where God, we need so much and

1131
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 4: we need so much from him. If you draft him,

1132
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 4: if you think about it, if they're successful with this

1133
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 4: draft and next year's draft, and you get into let's

1134
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 4: say twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven, and all of

1135
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 4: a sudden, it doesn't seem like it's all on Travis Hunter.

1136
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 4: He's more one of these guys that Philadelphia drafted where

1137
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 4: at the time you're like, oh, DeVante Smith. Now all

1138
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 4: of a sudden, he's not even really the focal point.

1139
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 4: He's just an amazing piece that you have to play

1140
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 4: with and another part of this whole system. I think

1141
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 4: that's what's appealing to me, and just the bottom line

1142
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 4: for me is this guy is special. You know, there's

1143
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 4: an element to him that is special. And trying to like, well,

1144
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 4: we have to have the plan and we have to

1145
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 4: have the exact piece cut out for him, and this

1146
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 4: is what he's gonna do. Like at a certain point,

1147
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 4: you just have to look at the guy and be like,

1148
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 4: this guy is a special football player, and this team

1149
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 4: is desperate for special football players.

1150
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 5: That's what I kind of think about Hunter, you know,

1151
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 5: And I get the points that the only way I'd

1152
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 5: be scared away from him is if Evans doomsday scenario unfolds,

1153
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 5: and that is he's not good enough at either one

1154
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 5: to warrant selecting where he's going to go. I think

1155
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 5: he's he's good enough, you know, to warrant you know,

1156
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 5: a top three pick. I don't think he'll be available

1157
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 5: at four either. But if if he is, I would

1158
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 5: take him. I mean, I just think he's the talent

1159
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 5: is too too great. And that's what we can talk

1160
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 5: all about blueprints and everything. The blueprint is take as

1161
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 5: many good players as you can find, and once you

1162
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 5: have you know, eight, ten, twelve players that are like

1163
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 5: Drake May and Christian Gonzales, then you can start talking

1164
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 5: about competing for Super Bowls and what pieces you might

1165
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 5: need to put you over the top. I think Travis

1166
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 5: Hunter is one of those guys that could come in

1167
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 5: and be that caliber of player you know on I

1168
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 5: don't care, I don't I don't care which side you can.

1169
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 5: You can decide that corner wide receiver doesn't matter.

1170
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, in my doomsday scenario. To be clear, like, I

1171
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 3: haven't spoken to anybody that that feels that he's not

1172
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: a good enough prospect unless he plays both walls.

1173
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 5: To the contrary, I think we've heard a lot of

1174
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 5: people say he can be a special corner.

1175
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and I hear that. I keep coming back

1176
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: to the same thing with that though. It's just a

1177
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 3: would you rather game of would you rather an A

1178
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 3: plus corner or like a B plus receiver, in which

1179
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 3: one's more valuable.

1180
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 5: It's a different game where I came from.

1181
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 3: You know, to your team and things like that, and

1182
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 3: and that that's a conversation that I'm sure a lot

1183
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 3: of teams are going to be having in their you know,

1184
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: in their rooms and their conference rooms over the next

1185
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 3: couple of months at the top of the draft, is

1186
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 3: you know, is he more valuable to us at receiver

1187
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: or at corner? And the points that you mentioned about

1188
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: defensive lineman. So Daniel Jeremiah tweeted out, I think yesterday

1189
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 3: or this morning that he has twenty four starter grades

1190
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 3: on defensive linemen in this draft and last year he

1191
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 3: had twelve, So he has double the amount. And I

1192
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 3: understand that a lot of people hear about value and

1193
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 3: positional value and think back to Bill and some of

1194
00:54:17,840 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 3: the reaches that he's had over the years and assets.

1195
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 3: Do you want to invest in a three technique? Like

1196
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 3: you can only have one or two on the field

1197
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: at once, so like you can't have seven three techniques.

1198
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 3: So like I just that's where I come at it

1199
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 3: with Mason. He's a great player, and I know I

1200
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 3: kind of am beating a dead horse with my take

1201
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 3: on this, but you have to look at the way

1202
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 3: that the board is going to stack, and like, who

1203
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 3: is going to be available on Day two at these

1204
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 3: other positions, and where are the drop offs and where

1205
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 3: is the talent?

1206
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 4: Like that's why I think I would pitch in free agency,

1207
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 4: go for those guys. Try to secure one of those guys,

1208
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 4: because as much as even if you like Will Campbell,

1209
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 4: I still get to four. I don't see Hunter, I

1210
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 4: don't see Carter. I'm a little torn about Will Campbell.

1211
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 4: I really like him. I think he's got a great personality.

1212
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 4: I think he fits Rabel. But at the same time time,

1213
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 4: it's like, is he even the immediate answer, even if

1214
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 4: he's good, is he is he a day one starter

1215
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 4: at left tackle? No questions asked? I don't. I don't

1216
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 4: quite think so. So I think it's I think it's

1217
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 4: it's gonna be really hard to balance the tackle and

1218
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 4: fixing the offensive line. That to me seems like the

1219
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 4: toughest task because there's a lot of defense, a lot

1220
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 4: of stuff they need in the draft. It that I

1221
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 4: that I feel good about. There's not a lot of

1222
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 4: options in free agency.

1223
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know there's not gonna be a lot

1224
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 3: of options that come available because teams don't just give

1225
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 3: away left tackles that are starting caliber or above, you know,

1226
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 3: so it's it's a tough position. But I'm with you

1227
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 3: with the free agents, like Alar Jackson is a name

1228
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 3: that I like. Cam Robinson's fine, Like I wouldn't overpay

1229
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 3: for Cam Robinson. But I think one thing that you

1230
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 3: saw with the Chargers drafting Joe Alton then immediately putting

1231
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 3: him at right tackle is that that might not have

1232
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 3: this stigma against it that it once did. And so

1233
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 3: even if you sign a guy like Cam Robinson in

1234
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 3: free agency and you draft a guy like Well Campbell, like, well,

1235
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 3: maybe one of them is playing right side and one

1236
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 3: of them is playing left side, and now you have

1237
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 3: both tackles taking care of, you think in the future.

1238
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 3: So I look at that too, as you know, could

1239
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 3: one of those free agent guys be your right tackle,

1240
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 3: because let's face it, like do they have an answer

1241
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 3: at right tackle right now either too? Yeah, they need

1242
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 3: both of them. So you know, you come back to, yeah,

1243
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 3: maybe this guy's played left tackle throughout his career and

1244
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 3: I know he just did this with Chucks the korp

1245
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 3: for and everybody's worried about trying to do that. Again,

1246
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 3: it's a different caliber player in my opinion a little bit.

1247
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 3: You know, Chucks the kor for I don't think was

1248
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 3: nearly as well thought of as a guy.

1249
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 5: He'd lost his job as a right tackle right.

1250
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 3: Right as some of these guys. So it's just a

1251
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 3: different type of situation. But I look at the offensive line,

1252
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 3: I still think Will Campbell's an answer potentially for them

1253
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 3: at four. Like we'll see what the arm length comes

1254
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 3: out with and all that kind of stuff. But I

1255
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 3: still believe that he's a very very good tackle. Maybe

1256
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 3: he would be like an elite guard, but I think

1257
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 3: he'd be a very good tackle as well. And I

1258
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 3: think the Patriots are just not in a position to

1259
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 3: be overly picky based off of you know, where they're

1260
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 3: at on the offensive line.

1261
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 5: So I would take the drum is starting to beat

1262
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 5: a little bit more for Will Campbell.

1263
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 4: I feel like it was beating and then it kind

1264
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 4: of dipped and the first started to beat again because.

1265
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 5: I'm hearing a lot more positivity about Will Campbell in

1266
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 5: the last couple of weeks.

1267
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 4: I just I mean, you look at that tackle they started,

1268
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 4: yet it's going to get well, I mean then you

1269
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 4: look at the tackle class and it's like by the

1270
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 4: time you get to thirty three, thirty four, and you know,

1271
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 4: top of the second round, right, you're Project City.

1272
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 3: That's the other point, right, is like you know, if

1273
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 3: you if you look at thirty eight, you know you're

1274
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 3: probably right at the end of that like let's call

1275
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 3: it two and a half or three tier tackle run. Right,

1276
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 3: you know that Josh Connerly is the arianti urseries. You're

1277
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 3: depending on Josh Simmons' health, like where he ends up

1278
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 3: going in this draft. And so now you're having this

1279
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 3: conversation a lot like you had last year of like

1280
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 3: do you trade up at the back end of the

1281
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 3: first round to get one of those guys? Do you

1282
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 3: now wait a little bit longer and take your guy

1283
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 3: in like the third round like they did last year?

1284
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 3: And is that enough of a solution to the problem,

1285
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 3: because I just don't believe that you're going to be

1286
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 3: sitting there at thirty eight with a ton of options

1287
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 3: at tackle, just like last year where they were kind

1288
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 3: of stuck in between at that point. So maybe they

1289
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 3: used the Judaan pick and like you know, the extra

1290
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 3: picks to kind of package up to move back in

1291
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 3: to the twenties. But even then, I think you're having

1292
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 3: some of the same conversations. Like Simmons blew out his proteller, Tennant,

1293
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Speaker 3: he had the same injury that Cole Strange had. Cole

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Speaker 3: Strange missed an entire calendar year of football with that injury,

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Speaker 3: So like you're looking at Simmons as a player that

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Speaker 3: might not even play for you in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: So that's even if you like the players so much

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Speaker 3: that you're willing to take that risk. You know, we

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01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 3: were talking earlier about what should Kansas City do, Like

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01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 3: that's a move that the Chiefs make right where they

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01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 3: can afford to stash him or they can afford to

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01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 3: wait until he's healthy, and if he's not healthy until

1303
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 3: after Thanksgiving they can They're okay with that. The Patriots

1304
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 3: need immediate answers at that position. I don't know if

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01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 3: he's going to be one of those, you know, I

1306
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 3: don't know if he's going to be healthy. So it's

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01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 3: it's a tough spot to be in a tackle And

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01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 3: that's why I think you have to you know, maybe

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01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 3: to Paul's point of like why all these names are

1310
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 3: coming coming back to Will Campbell a little bit is

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01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 3: because he's really the best option. He truly is the

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Speaker 3: best option to fill that need and really feel like

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Speaker 3: you're you've filled it and not just taking a fly.

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Speaker 5: And I guess, and I don't you know, I'm not

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Speaker 5: as in the weeds as both of you guys are yet.

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01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 5: And I just felt like when the season was winding down,

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Speaker 5: as the playoffs were going on, it was Campbell and Banks.

1318
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 5: Now it's just Campbell. Banks is more like in the teens,

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01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 5: and Campbell is the only top ten guy. So I

1320
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 5: guess that's what I feel like I'm starting to hear

1321
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 5: more and more about. And if that's the case, I'm

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01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 5: all for Will Campbell if he is clearly that much better.

1323
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 5: So okay, you would take him at eight, but you

1324
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 5: don't take him at four. I think Devin made a

1325
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 5: really good point. I don't think they're in a position

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01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 5: to be overly picky. They got they got to find

1327
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 5: a guy who's both talented and fills a need. Now,

1328
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 5: the silver lining there that I keep the snarky comment

1329
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 5: is pretty much anything that they take will fill a need,

1330
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 5: so you can just find the best player.

1331
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Speaker 4: On one other point I'll make on the draft before

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01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,439
Speaker 4: we take a break. So I just think, again, there's

1333
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Speaker 4: there's receivers to be had. Day two, there's receivers to

1334
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 4: be had. There's speed that you can add. That's I've

1335
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 4: been consistent with that since this season. I think there

1336
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 4: are a lot of guys out there that you know,

1337
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 4: fall through the cracks you get there. It's just you know,

1338
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 4: you start to mess around with these mock drafts and

1339
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 4: you get and you're like, get to that second round pick,

1340
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 4: You're like, there's some front seven guys that are pretty

1341
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,959
Speaker 4: good and that I'd be excited to add to this team.

1342
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 4: And even when you get to that third round pick,

1343
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 4: you still get guys like, you know, I don't know

1344
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 4: if Isaiah Bond is you know that guy in the

1345
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 4: third round, but you know a guy who's explosive who

1346
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 4: you know, those kind of traits I think are with

1347
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 4: what this team needs. So that's my two cents on

1348
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 4: the draft. As I went crazy last Friday and then Saturday,

1349
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 4: it was pretty fun Saturday catch up to speed. I

1350
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 4: just got on a roll. I started going through it. Well,

1351
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 4: I know the combent's coming up. In the combine, I think,

1352
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 4: which I've learned. Here's Paul mentored me the first time

1353
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:05,959
Speaker 4: we went there and no idea what I was doing,

1354
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 4: what I was in for. But it's a lot more

1355
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 4: fun when you go in and you just have like,

1356
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 4: I don't need to break down seventeen different games. I

1357
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 4: just want to know a little bit about as many plays.

1358
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 4: Top ten guys at each position. That was kind of

1359
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 4: my goal over the weekend was to get to ten

1360
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 4: guys each. I always felt like if.

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01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 5: I could go there and not necessarily look at a

1362
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 5: podium and say, who's that guy, right, Like I have

1363
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 5: a base knowledge of the guys that you're going to

1364
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 5: hear from. Now, there's a million other guys that are

1365
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 5: there too. They're at the you know, the side day

1366
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 5: they still do the side DA Sure you know a

1367
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 5: million of those other guys too in this value in

1368
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 5: that too, like Evan probably knows every one of those

1369
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 5: guys as well. But I always felt like if you

1370
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 5: could just get a base knowledge of I don't know,

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01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 5: say the top fifty to seventy five players that you're

1372
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 5: going to hear from, and you have an idea, Okay,

1373
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 5: I know that's the guy from Texas, so that's the

1374
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 5: guy from Georgia.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I felt like I was so much ahead of

1377
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 5: the game because I went. Believe me, there were times

1378
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 5: I went and I didn't know anything more than.

1379
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 4: Just going off Super bowls. Paul, you can only do

1380
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 4: so much.

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01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 5: Correct, Mike, Yeah, you need some over.

1382
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 3: For better or worse. We're in a much different spot

1383
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 3: now where this matters a little bit more than it

1384
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 3: did when they were coming off the Super Bowl. I

1385
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 3: always love that about Senior Bowl and and with the combine,

1386
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 3: when you see the personnel from the Super Bowl winner

1387
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,919
Speaker 3: the teams that are participating in the Super Bowl down

1388
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 3: in Mobile like they don't even care, like they're not

1389
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 3: even watching. They're just like whatever, Like we were gonna

1390
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 3: we need, like, you know, a third corner and probably

1391
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 3: like a backup running back and.

1392
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Speaker 4: Grab two years. I do like that. Josh Simmons. I

1393
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 4: watched a little bit of him and he's, yeah, he's

1394
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 4: a big, mean dude. Let's grab Let's just grab DeShawn

1395
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 4: and Virginia here so he doesn't have to hold on

1396
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 4: while we don't what's up to Sean?

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01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 5: Hey, We're back? Uh? Was the touch one?

1398
01:05:58,960 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 4: I hear you guys suck a lot.

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Speaker 3: B Travers Hunter or whatever.

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Speaker 5: But like this is my thing on Like if if

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01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 5: I'm wanting to take the best corner in the draft

1402
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 5: home taking what done and we lost them. If I'm

1403
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 5: the best receiver drift, I'm taking lost the villain.

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Speaker 4: We lost you. That's all right, We're all right. So

1405
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 4: we're gonna jump out real quick. We're gonna take a

1406
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 4: little break, not eat, hang out, but give you guys

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Speaker 4: a break and give a chance for our audio to

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Speaker 4: get back up here. So we will see you guys

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Speaker 9: Episode of Pats from the Past podcast Matt Smith alongside

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Speaker 9: Paul Parrillo. Please to be joined by number seventy on

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Speaker 9: your scorecard, but number one in our hearts, at least today.

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Speaker 9: Paul absolutely right next to the Yeah, and you better

1434
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Speaker 9: be careful.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's Logan Mankins.

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01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 9: Logan, thanks for coming in.

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01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 4: How you doing, man, I'm doing great. Thanks for having

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01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 4: me U.

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01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, really appreciate it all right, Logan? When we start

1440
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 9: these with everybody, because I don't you mean, like maybe

1441
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 9: people know what some ex patriots are doing, but I

1442
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 9: think there's a lot of people that go, Logan, Macon's

1443
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 9: where is he these days?

1444
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 5: What are you up to?

1445
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 9: I think fans would love to know that.

1446
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 4: Well, I'm still here in New England.

1447
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 2: We live in an with that Burl still just down

1448
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 2: the road from Foxboro, and we have a little farm

1449
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 2: and we raised beef, cattle, hay, firewood, all that kind

1450
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 2: of fun stuff.

1451
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 9: Why is a California Northern California kid, What is it

1452
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 9: about New England? Because I think, and I'm being very

1453
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 9: stereotypically stereotypical here, I think people would be surprised. Patriot

1454
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 9: fans will go, Okay, his career's over, finish it in Tampa.

1455
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 9: He's going to go back to northern California at some

1456
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 9: point in time. Why still New England? I mean, and

1457
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 9: this is somebody who loves New England's lived here his

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01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 9: entire life.

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01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, we had lived here for nine years before

1460
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 2: I got traded, and then the timing of the trade

1461
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 2: was school was about to start, so my wife and

1462
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 2: kids stayed here and I went there just for the

1463
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 2: season at Tampa, and then we did that. Then I

1464
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 2: came back after the season and my daughter was in

1465
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 2: high school, so we didn't want to make her move

1466
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 2: while she was in high school, so I went to

1467
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Speaker 2: Tampa for the season again and they stayed here, and

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01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 2: then by the time I retired, we just made the

1469
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 2: decision that our oldest is in high school, let's let

1470
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 2: her finish high school. And then she was graduating high school.

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01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 2: Our next one was coming into high school. So we

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Speaker 2: just made the decision to stay here and make this

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01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 2: our forever place.

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Speaker 5: So that's great, yea, Because I was one of those

1475
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 5: that I would have said, you know, Logan Mankins, he'll

1476
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 5: be back on the ranch out and it was a

1477
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:21,560
Speaker 5: Kathy's Valley.

1478
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Kathy's Valley town.

1479
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 5: I figured you'd be long gone and hot to find.

1480
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 5: And then I show up at Bishop Fian Matt Yeah.

1481
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 5: And so one of those classic Bishop Fenwick, Bishop fee

1482
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 5: In Tilts right in the Catholic Central League Mankins. So

1483
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 5: Logan Paul's office is now next to mine, and I'm

1484
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:44,879
Speaker 5: regaled weekly with you know how great Fenwick is. Fenwick

1485
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 5: kicked his team's ass, blah blah blah.

1486
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 9: And he tells me, he goes, oh, you wouldn't believe this.

1487
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 9: I read into Logan Mankins, other than Bruski, who we

1488
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 9: know is obnoxious on the sidelines, is all the most

1489
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 9: obnoxious parent of a kid that you've run into a

1490
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 9: high school game. And he's got to be right.

1491
01:09:58,600 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know.

1492
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: I don't get to see him during the game, but

1493
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 2: he's always very gracious in defeats.

1494
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 5: So well, see he's he's being kind. I usually bitch

1495
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 5: about the referees for about a half hour. Uh, but

1496
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 5: it was funny. This is this is a kind of

1497
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 5: a funny story. So last year when uh Logan sun

1498
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 5: Case Mankins is a tremendous two way player for Bishop

1499
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 5: Fiann and my oldest son Will they're the same same age,

1500
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 5: not as tremendous a two way player for Fenwick, but

1501
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 5: he does well. So we're at Fenwick two years ago

1502
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 5: and it was one of those games where I was,

1503
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 5: you know, held in for a leather, like if I

1504
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 5: could have found an official in the parking lot, things

1505
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 5: could have been bad. And I see Logan, I.

1506
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 4: Go, did you see that hole?

1507
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 5: By missing a touchdown? And Logan goes and then' holding

1508
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 5: if they don't.

1509
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 9: Call it so but it was spoken like a true

1510
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 9: offensive life.

1511
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 5: Well what was great was is my friends are constantly

1512
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 5: as you probably get a lot of this, they're constantly

1513
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 5: busting my balls. Oh oh big tof Paul like, oh

1514
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 5: he talks to Tom Brady, he talks the two Bruski.

1515
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 5: Oh why don't you tell where's all you boys? Where's makings?

1516
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 5: Where's all you put? So don't you know Logan comes

1517
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 5: over at the end of the game. You talk about

1518
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 5: being gracious in defeat, gracious in victory. He comes over

1519
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 5: after the game, says goodbye to my wife and I

1520
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 5: and I get the bro hug. I got a little

1521
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 5: bro hug. And there what you like to make fun

1522
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 5: of me about for fraud. So all of my friends

1523
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 5: now looking like, wow, you really do know those guys

1524
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 5: are going what do you think? I worked there for

1525
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 5: twenty years. I never met anybody, so it was it's

1526
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 5: been kind of nice. Case played some basketball last last winter,

1527
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 5: so I bumped into Logan a few times. And he

1528
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 5: was here in Foxbow at the draft party too, so

1529
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 5: he's been around and.

1530
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 9: Logan and I'm I can verify Paul because Paul was

1531
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 9: saying this to me when he came back. He goes,

1532
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 9: You're not gonna believe it, And I'm not surprised. He goes,

1533
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 9: I think Patriots fans would not be surprised as well.

1534
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 9: Regular guy, nice guy parent who isn't screaming and yelling

1535
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 9: and swearing at the referees like most of the other

1536
01:11:56,120 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 9: parents are. See and Jody right with his hat probably just.

1537
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 5: Like that was a draper farms. Yeah, you know, you

1538
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 5: would not have any idea that this is a you know,

1539
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 5: decade long NFL player, well ten plus years NFL player,

1540
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 5: with the amount of Pro Bowls and All pros, And

1541
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 5: you would have no idea just sitting in the stands

1542
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 5: watching these kids, just like everybody else, right, And I hope.

1543
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 9: This doesn't come across in a way. It's sort of

1544
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 9: as I'm saying, thinking about in my mind that somebody

1545
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 9: could take it as an insult, and I hope it

1546
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 9: would never be that way. But Logan as the second

1547
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 9: greatest guard in franchise history, you are you okay? Being

1548
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 9: behind John Hannah?

1549
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 5: Yeah? Who?

1550
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 4: By the way, I just but they wouldn't change my life.

1551
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 4: I get it.

1552
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 9: But I don't know if you ever had a chance

1553
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 9: to really, you know, watch Hannah or anything like that

1554
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 9: during the days. And I spent some time with John

1555
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 9: a couple of summers ago down on his cattle farm

1556
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 9: down in Alabama. Crusty, great patriot and great guy. I

1557
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 9: think you guys would connect.

1558
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got him a few times. Yeah, we uh

1559
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,560
Speaker 2: would swap stories and it was great meeting them and

1560
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 2: hearing all the great things he had to talk about.

1561
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 5: And he just started yelling at you about not running

1562
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 5: the ball enough.

1563
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: Well, he said he liked running the ball because he

1564
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 2: didn't like the pass block and that pass blocking is

1565
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 2: pretty tough, so especially against the talent they have nowadays.

1566
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,759
Speaker 9: He loved watching you play. He loved watching you play.

1567
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 9: And I would say, as an outsider, for somebody to

1568
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 9: get a stamp of approval from somebody like John Hannah,

1569
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 9: that means a lot more than Paul Pirillo or Matt

1570
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 9: Smith or any any other Tom Dick and Harry, because

1571
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 9: here's a legit guy. But he loved watching you play.

1572
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and John, he was respected by everyone, his teammates,

1573
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 2: his opponents, other coaches. So that's always what I wanted

1574
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 2: to If they wrote I was good in the paper,

1575
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 2: that was great, But I wanted my teammates. I wanted

1576
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 2: to earn their respect, and I wanted opponents not to

1577
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 2: want to play me.

1578
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 4: So that's how it was.

1579
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 9: Did you think when you were coming out did you

1580
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 9: think you were going to be a first round pick?

1581
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 4: I didn't know.

1582
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 2: I everyone told me probably second around her. And it

1583
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 2: was funny. The day of the draft, I was We

1584
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 2: had me and my wife had a little apartment in

1585
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 2: Fresno and we had a little draft party and just

1586
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 2: people kept showing up more and more. Like my dad,

1587
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 2: he's a he likes to have a good time, so

1588
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 2: he was inviting everyone he saw, whether he knew them

1589
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 2: or not.

1590
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 4: So that was always great.

1591
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 5: Does it make him a bad guy?

1592
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 2: No. We're sitting there and my offensive coordinator from Fresno

1593
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 2: was one of his best friends was with the forty

1594
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 2: nine ers and he calls me. He goes that I

1595
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 2: just talked to my best friend. They're taking you with

1596
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 2: the thirty third pick. I was like, oh sweet, right

1597
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 2: down the road from here. And then I was like,

1598
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 2: hold on, someone else is calling me, and I click

1599
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 2: the phone over and it was Scott Pioli. He's like,

1600
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 2: we're taking you right now.

1601
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, okay.

1602
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 4: So it was great. I was.

1603
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 2: I think I was very fortunate to come here. I'm

1604
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 2: it worked out the best to come here. I'm glad

1605
01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 2: that the Niners weren't picking thirty two the to wear.

1606
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 5: So you obviously it did work out. You were part

1607
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 5: of a lot of wins here and you had a

1608
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 5: great career. Did you think it at the time, you know,

1609
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,719
Speaker 5: like you were so close to being close to home,

1610
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 5: and now you have to go to New England, which

1611
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 5: I can't tell you how many players will tell you.

1612
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,679
Speaker 5: I didn't really even know where New England was because

1613
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 5: they think it's a state, not a region. What were

1614
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 5: you thinking about the culture, you know, both the culture

1615
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 5: with the team and the culture shock of going from

1616
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 5: West coast to East coast.

1617
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't, like you said, totally aware of they

1618
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 2: said in New England. I was like, Okay, that's on

1619
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 2: the East Coast, but I didn't know it was like

1620
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 2: right outside of Boston. I didn't know where the stadium

1621
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 2: was or Foxborough or any of that stuff. And guys

1622
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 2: are like, oh, you're gonna go play with Tom Brady,

1623
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm not even sure who Tom Brady

1624
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 2: really is. Right, I didn't watch that much in NFL football.

1625
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 2: I didn't up until my senior year of high school.

1626
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 2: I loved watching NFL football, and then once I got

1627
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 2: to college, I kind of stopped paying attention and had

1628
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 2: many other things going on.

1629
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 9: So is that because you Is it because it was

1630
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,799
Speaker 9: so much for you to play? It took so much physically,

1631
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 9: mentally and everything like that that when the time came

1632
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 9: that you had quote your own time or downtime or

1633
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 9: however you want to call it. I got other things

1634
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 9: I want to do that interest me rather than sit

1635
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 9: and watch this because I'm living and I'm you know,

1636
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 9: in a division in school, you're working.

1637
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 2: It's a job, yeah, And and the schedule kind of

1638
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:28,759
Speaker 2: makes it that way. So in college, you play on Saturday. Sunday,

1639
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 2: you go in for lifting, you watch the game, and

1640
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 2: you have your conditioning, so that's most of your Sunday

1641
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,719
Speaker 2: while NFL football is on, so you can watch games

1642
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,640
Speaker 2: on Monday night and Sunday night. But other than that,

1643
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 2: during the day, you were usually busy, so we didn't

1644
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 2: watch a lot of it. And as I got older

1645
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,919
Speaker 2: in college, I already had my first daughter and everything

1646
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 2: like that. So the longer I was in college, the

1647
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 2: more responsible I had to start becoming, and we had

1648
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 2: a lot of other things to do to support her

1649
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 2: and your wife.

1650
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 8: And now great moments in.

1651
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 4: History.

1652
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 5: It's a totally different food. I'm talking about boneless buffalo

1653
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 5: wings as opposed to bone in buffalo wings, right.

1654
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 4: But isn't what's in the chicken finger the same as

1655
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 4: the boneless buffalo wings? Necessarily it does nice to say it.

1656
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 5: Does not taste to say you can put anything in

1657
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 5: the boneless stuff. And I'm not even I'm not even

1658
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 5: anti because of that. Although he's right, Fred's absolutely right,

1659
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 5: it's not necessarily the same. The bone, I think gives

1660
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 5: it more flavor. I think it's a better you ever

1661
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 5: have a bone product a non bonus. Absolutely get that

1662
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 5: bone in boner boner.

1663
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:56,800
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01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:24,879
Speaker 4: like that, and I need confident.

1674
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 3: The whole thing needs work.

1675
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I got already. I already got some

1676
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 4: some flak here in the email from Gary saying what

1677
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 4: a what an amateur? Fred would have transitioned right into emails. Yeah,

1678
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 4: I know, I know, Gary. I'm doing my best here.

1679
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 4: No one's like the big boss man though. He's been

1680
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 4: doing this for for far too long, and we're back here,

1681
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 4: so I think we're back up and trying.

1682
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 5: To kick them out. Been doing this for far too long.

1683
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 4: That's not true. He should stay here for whatever.

1684
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 3: It's a different US hosting and shis I don't enjoy it.

1685
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 3: You have to read words.

1686
01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to man the phone lines. And we're

1687
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 4: gonna get Patty a third chance here today. Patty. Oh,

1688
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 4: there he is. I can hear him. What's up, Patty?

1689
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 5: What are you doing right now?

1690
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 4: Patty?

1691
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that's not Patty.

1692
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:15,600
Speaker 4: Patty.

1693
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 3: There he is a good today.

1694
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 4: Oh God, what's going on?

1695
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 3: Patty?

1696
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 5: All right?

1697
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 4: We got a fight going on. I don't know what's

1698
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 4: going on there. Never heard that one before.

1699
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 5: Never happens when Fred.

1700
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 4: Hosts like Patty was in the middle of a life or.

1701
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 3: Battle ten seconds.

1702
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 5: I kept waiting to hear Patty's.

1703
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 4: Voice for a second. But maybe like we melded.

1704
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 3: Just email us or something, Patty. We've tried.

1705
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, the tp X hotline today going on a little

1706
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 4: bit tough times here, but yeah, shoot us an email

1707
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 4: if you'd like to read We've got We've got a

1708
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 4: bunch of those actually, uh and this is one that

1709
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 4: tickles my fancy a little bit from Jake and Melbourne.

1710
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 4: But he only wants Even's thoughts on this, So would

1711
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 4: like to just get Evan's thoughts on the Cowboys discussing

1712
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 4: possibly trading Parsons. Sniff some rumors out, you know.

1713
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 3: Come on, like, what are we talking about here? But

1714
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 3: this is part of the of the whole like insider game,

1715
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 3: I really don't enjoy where it's like there's been conversations

1716
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 3: within the building about it, not anything real, but like

1717
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 3: you know who said that? You know, there's the janitor

1718
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 3: might have mentioned it or something like that, Like, come on, like,

1719
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 3: they're not going to trade Micah Parsons. This is all

1720
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 3: a negotiation tactic on both sides. They both want their number.

1721
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll come to an agreement at some point.

1722
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 3: He's not going to be a bit Why did he

1723
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 3: ask Kevin?

1724
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 4: That's no fun at all.

1725
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 5: Come so I have one that I'll direct to Evan.

1726
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 5: As long as we're directing things.

1727
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 4: To Evan, as I can just read.

1728
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:51,520
Speaker 5: What are your thoughts on the style of linebacker preferred

1729
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 5: by Mike.

1730
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 4: Good Good Good Good.

1731
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good question. I have heard a lot

1732
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 3: of they're going to get smaller, they're gonna get faster,

1733
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 3: They're they're gonna be more sidelined to sideline. I think

1734
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 3: there are some elements of that. Typically, when you run

1735
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 3: like an even front and four three type defenses, you're

1736
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 3: shooting gaps, you're getting up the field. So you do

1737
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 3: want guys that can kind of, you know, take out

1738
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 3: the trash if you will. You know, if those guys

1739
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 3: miss their shot, then there's gonna be open gaps and

1740
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 3: things like that. So there is an element of that,

1741
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:27,440
Speaker 3: I suppose, But I still don't think that they're gonna

1742
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 3: be all of a sudden, you know, Matt Mulanos all

1743
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 3: over the place where everybody's two and twenty five pounds,

1744
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 3: you know, I still feel like most of his linebackers

1745
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 3: carried around two thirty five to forty, which nowadays is

1746
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,839
Speaker 3: average to above average in terms of weight and size.

1747
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 3: I think like everybody is like shooting for like that

1748
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 3: those two hundred and forty pound guys at this point.

1749
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 3: So do I think that you're gonna have Juwan Bentley's out.

1750
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,520
Speaker 5: There, Well that's kind of my my preference.

1751
01:21:56,640 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 3: Probably not, but I don't think that that necessarily means

1752
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 3: that Jwan Bentley's on the first flight out of here either,

1753
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 3: and they're going to completely u you know, just jettison

1754
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 3: him because he's not two hundred and forty pounds.

1755
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 4: You know, we make fun of Evan, like when we

1756
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 4: make fun of Evan that he's like lying in bed

1757
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 4: and Jess is like, what are you thinking about? Like

1758
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 4: this is like when Leye like what are you thinking about?

1759
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, Mike for Abel's preference for linebackers, Like,

1760
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 4: that's totally something I considered. And like I've said, there's

1761
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 4: holes on defense, so it's hard to say, well, let's

1762
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,919
Speaker 4: create more holes, even if it really would fit preferably

1763
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 4: what you'd like to do. I think it's a really

1764
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 4: good question. I kind of side with Evan and thinking

1765
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 4: that I think Bentley's here this year. I mean, this

1766
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 4: is last year and his deal. But I wonder about

1767
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 4: to buy. I wonder about Anthony Jennings a little bit.

1768
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 4: You know, how do these guys fit into what they

1769
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 4: want to do and how can they get more speed

1770
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 4: at the second level without you know, maybe going back

1771
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 4: to traditional safeties, you know, go not having every safety

1772
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 4: be a box safety. You actually putting some speed on

1773
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 4: the and range on the back end. But it feels

1774
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 4: like one of those things where you start to pull

1775
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 4: one thread out and then all of a sudden, like

1776
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 4: even the small little bit of you know, things that

1777
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 4: you felt like, are we kind of have?

1778
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 5: You know?

1779
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 4: Like I like Jawan Bentley. I mean I I mean

1780
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 4: to be honest, I haven't been the biggest supporter of him.

1781
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 4: Like I think he's a good player. I don't think

1782
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 4: he's a player that makes plays before they should happen.

1783
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 4: I think he kind of cleans up the trash a

1784
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 4: little bit. He brings physicality, but he's not one of

1785
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 4: these guys that is beating blocks and making plays. You

1786
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 4: know that, no question they missed him.

1787
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 5: So I don't know.

1788
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 4: I think that's a question for me. Kicking down the

1789
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 4: kicking the can down the road.

1790
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 5: I just like, I've been reading some stuff about that.

1791
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,759
Speaker 5: I think mass Live had some some stuff about that today.

1792
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 4: I just was curious, what you know the ball knowing

1793
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 4: Patty Patty is okay, he apologize, he said I'll call

1794
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 4: in somebody I don't know, Patty. I expect a full

1795
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 4: story about what was going down here.

1796
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 5: I have to keep me up to date. I'll be

1797
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:45,839
Speaker 5: gob that's going.

1798
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 3: It is an interesting point, though, that about pulling the thread,

1799
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 3: because yeah, maybe ideally that he likes, you know, lighter

1800
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 3: linebackers that that can cover more ground and all that

1801
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 3: kind of stuff, But you know you can't make more

1802
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 3: holes in the right like you already have, and you're

1803
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 3: already taking on enough water, you start taking on more

1804
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 3: water because you're just trying to find a type of

1805
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 3: player that you like a little bit better than than

1806
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 3: other people might like. And they missed Bentley last year.

1807
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 3: But that's a lot of that's front mechanics and like

1808
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 3: how you want to fit the run and how you

1809
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 3: want to play those types of things. If you're playing

1810
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 3: it differently, then there's a different type of player. And

1811
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 3: I get that, But I just feel like you have

1812
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 3: a good, solid linebacker and Juwan Bentley, you do have

1813
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 3: some of those safeties that I think can be useful

1814
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 3: when used properly. Like if you start peeling back all

1815
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 3: these layers, then all of a sudden we're talking about

1816
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 3: something even bigger.

1817
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 4: It's like for me, I think the focus the defensive

1818
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 4: line and getting like, you know, the edge really set,

1819
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 4: getting somebody who can get pressure. I think, just like

1820
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 4: I'm talking about speed with receivers, they need to they

1821
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 4: need to address pass rush this offseason. They need to draft,

1822
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 4: slash sign guys that impact the passer on third down.

1823
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it was not good enough last year.

1824
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,759
Speaker 4: You don't know if you can count on Christian Barmore, who's,

1825
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 4: you know, probably your best pass rusher, but after him,

1826
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 4: it's like who you know? You know, even if Ferdy

1827
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 4: Jenny plays, he's early down run stopper, kind of a guy.

1828
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 4: You know, he can blitz Bentley a little bit. But

1829
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 4: I think they need some guys with some juice getting

1830
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 4: off that edge. Jeremiah writes in just kind of in

1831
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 4: line with what we're saying. If Hunter and Carter are

1832
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 4: not there for them, I'm all in on Campbell. I

1833
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,799
Speaker 4: get Mike's take, but Mason Graham isn't at a premium

1834
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,799
Speaker 4: position in a class that is loaded with D line players.

1835
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 4: As Evan said, with Campbell, you at least have the

1836
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 4: opportunity to try him at a premium position and if

1837
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 4: it doesn't work out, then you end up with a

1838
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 4: player that's not playing a premium position, just like Graham.

1839
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 4: So I get that, right, I just I'm not I'm

1840
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 4: with you, Ev. I'm not blown away by Mason Graham

1841
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 4: at fourth overall. It's just it feels a little redundant

1842
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 4: and that you've got options later that aren't as big

1843
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 4: of a drop off as they would be at the

1844
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 4: other spots.

1845
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the argument, and you know, Paul's kind

1846
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 3: of brought this up before in terms of like best

1847
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 3: player available, right, just take the best player on the board,

1848
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 3: regardless of position. Is like kind of the biggest argument

1849
01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 3: for Mason Graham is that you just feel like he's the.

1850
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 5: Best football Will Campbell, right, if you think that, yes,

1851
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 5: I'm not saying he is, and.

1852
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 3: So that they're in a position where they just need

1853
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 3: to stack talent on this roster and that's all that

1854
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 3: they need to do. I just don't necessarily look at

1855
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:16,440
Speaker 3: it that way because I feel like there's more avenues

1856
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 3: than one to add players.

1857
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 5: Yep.

1858
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 3: So if you feel like you need that type of

1859
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 3: player in your front, which I'm not disagreeing that they

1860
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 3: might need, but if you really feel like you need

1861
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 3: like an impact three technique to rush the passer and

1862
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 3: to do those types of things. You can go find

1863
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 3: one in a different way that can still make that

1864
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,680
Speaker 3: sort of impact on your football team and free up

1865
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 3: that fourth overall pick to use something you know, to

1866
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 3: draft something else Whereas, like I said earlier, I don't

1867
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 3: know if you can do that at tackle. I don't

1868
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 3: know if you're going to be able to go out

1869
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 3: and find a comparable left tackle someplace else Whereas I

1870
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 3: think that there's three techniques all over the place in

1871
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:58,839
Speaker 3: this draft, Like you can get a rotational three technique

1872
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 3: that can rush the passer on down in like the

1873
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 3: fourth round of this draft, Like it's really truly that deep.

1874
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 5: So and I would also say the whole best player available,

1875
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 5: and I'm all for it. Like if we're talking about

1876
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:16,719
Speaker 5: Travis Hunter and Will Campbell, there's probably a sizeable gap

1877
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 5: in talent there. Now, you can make an argument where

1878
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 5: you don't really need another corner because you have Gonzales.

1879
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:28,759
Speaker 5: Now hypothetically obviously you need two, But there's such a difference,

1880
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 5: in my opinion, between the talent level of Travis Hunter

1881
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 5: and one of those other guys. Same with aut dual Carter,

1882
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 5: I would take Travis Hunter. But if it's the difference

1883
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 5: between Will Campbell and Mason Graham, yeah, I think you

1884
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 5: could say that Graham's a better player maybe, but I

1885
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 5: think you might get some people that say, now, you know,

1886
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 5: Will Campbell is his arms are gonna you know, they're

1887
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 5: going to measure up and he's going to be a

1888
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 5: tackle and he's every bit worthy of top five pick.

1889
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 5: So but either way, it seems pretty close to me,

1890
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 5: and I think that is a huge need. Whereas defensive

1891
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 5: the line depth, you know, those interior guys. Evan said

1892
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 5: this about three times in the show, like you can

1893
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 5: only play so many three techniques, you know, and I

1894
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 5: got Jeremiah Farmer spec But what it kind of dovetails

1895
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 5: into I am starting to read. I think Mike Giardi

1896
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 5: had something today. Sounds like Barmore has been working out,

1897
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 5: you know, nothing specifically about his future, but maybe there

1898
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 5: have they have more information on how those blood clots

1899
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,600
Speaker 5: are going to be affecting him, and they might know

1900
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 5: that he's going to be, you know, ready to go

1901
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 5: with the start of the I don't know, I'm speculating,

1902
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 5: but I did think it was interesting that Mike indicated

1903
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 5: today sort of parenthetically, that he has been working out.

1904
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's good in good info. Let's let's

1905
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 4: let's give it another try here on the TPX hotline. It's

1906
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 4: been a little bit of a little bit of a

1907
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 4: disaster today. Not my phone, dude, any phones, Maybe it is,

1908
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 4: but uh, let's let's check in with Brad for a while.

1909
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 5: Hey Brad, Hey, Hey guys, how you doing.

1910
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 4: Hey good? How are you.

1911
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 7: Good?

1912
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 6: Pretty good.

1913
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 5: I'm glad we're talking about the draft because I got

1914
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:06,560
Speaker 5: some questions.

1915
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 8: You know that.

1916
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 3: I know I would go, yeah, do you had some

1917
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 3: more of my my draft takes for you? Firewell, I'll

1918
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 3: give you a couple more because we're we're struggling here

1919
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:23,639
Speaker 3: with the phones. You could be yeah, well, we'll get

1920
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 3: to the emails here in a second. My other, my

1921
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 3: other thing. I'm interested in your thoughts on dude. I

1922
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 3: don't know how much you did on the tight ends yet,

1923
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 3: but the tight ends to me another strength of this

1924
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,639
Speaker 3: class offensive side of the ball. I'd say running back

1925
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 3: and tight end, or your two straints on that side

1926
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 3: of the ball. And I look at these two tight

1927
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 3: ends at the top of the draft and Tyler Warren

1928
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 3: and uh Colston Loveland from Michigan, and both those guys

1929
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 3: I thought, you know, I I did most of my

1930
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 3: homework on them at the end of last week. I

1931
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,640
Speaker 3: liked a lot of both of those guys better than

1932
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 3: any of the receivers. Travis under I kind of treats

1933
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 3: his own thing, like he's his own category. But I

1934
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 3: currently would have both those players over teed McMillan and

1935
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 3: just in terms of overall talent. Sure, different positions, you

1936
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 3: got to build it differently, all things true, But just

1937
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 3: I thought both those guys were really really impressive.

1938
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,879
Speaker 4: Of me too. Yeah, I definitely watched both those guys.

1939
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 4: You know, I just found myself as you got later.

1940
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 4: What do you think of Jahem Bell? You know, that's

1941
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 4: the question of kind of comping him, very athletic guy.

1942
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 4: It with Mason Taylor from LSU is another one of those,

1943
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 4: like you know, day two kind of later prospects. But no,

1944
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 4: I thought it was I saw you tweet that out.

1945
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, you know those I just keep

1946
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:40,719
Speaker 4: going back to. Gronk was a number one, right, Gronk

1947
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 4: was a number one, And you know, maybe that is

1948
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 4: the route. Maybe that's kind of the thing that we're

1949
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 4: not really thinking of right now at four overall, we're

1950
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,640
Speaker 4: getting so focused on those top two guys, and you

1951
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 4: know it might be a little bit of a stretch,

1952
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 4: but but I just got an email too.

1953
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 5: I want to see Dame Brugler put out his top

1954
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 5: one hundred today and he had both of those guys,

1955
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 5: and I think I forget where Warren was, but the

1956
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 5: Michigan guy was eleven, so two in the top eleven. Yeah,

1957
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 5: Warren tight ends Warren is.

1958
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 3: I never like to compare guys to guys like Gronk,

1959
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 3: but like, Warren's truly the closest thing I've seen from

1960
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:18,839
Speaker 3: Gronk as in terms of like a prospect since Gronk

1961
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 3: was in the league. He is really just, you know,

1962
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 3: has all the same traits. It's just probably not going

1963
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 3: to be as good as Rob Gronkowski is, you know,

1964
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 3: as an overall package. But like he's sixty six, two

1965
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty pounds, he can block his you know,

1966
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 3: to his weight, he can use his size down the

1967
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 3: field at the cashpoint. He's like a better route runner

1968
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 3: and more explosive than what you would think at that size.

1969
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 3: Like the only knock on Tyler Warren is that he's older,

1970
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 3: he's going to be like twenty four to twenty five

1971
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 3: as a rookie. So some people you know are a

1972
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 3: just like that in the draft and it just turns

1973
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:54,639
Speaker 3: them off on that. Loveland to me is a lot

1974
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 3: like Brock Bowers, like really explosive player and you know,

1975
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 3: similar player to Brops, like if you don't want to

1976
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 3: go that far, like a Sam Laporter or something like that.

1977
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 3: You know that ilk of like receiving tight end, you know,

1978
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 3: explosive receiving tight end. I thought with love one like

1979
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 3: how fast he is at that size just pops right

1980
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 3: off the film at you. So I'm excited about those

1981
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 3: two guys as well.

1982
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 4: This is a good email because I know you had

1983
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 4: a tweet one of those days when I was going

1984
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 4: through things and my half baked ideas, no, no, this

1985
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 4: was well Nick Gortonton Scarton, Yeah, I really liked him.

1986
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 4: I really liked him before I Steven saw your thing.

1987
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 4: I think he's raw, but I just think he's a

1988
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 4: bull in a china shop and he is.

1989
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 3: Of pass rush moves in his bag. But both of

1990
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 3: them are are that type of you know patriot, typical

1991
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:36,879
Speaker 3: edge rusher of like, you know, they got some size,

1992
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,639
Speaker 3: they have some power to their game. I would say

1993
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 3: Stuart maybe a little bit more is like sort of

1994
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 3: like that Ross Spetman. Stewart's like six five, two and

1995
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:49,680
Speaker 3: eighty pounds lying off days like he's like in a

1996
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 3: in a lab to play like defensive end in the NFL,

1997
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 3: but just a little bit you know, raw in terms

1998
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 3: of his hand usage and his instincts and things like that.

1999
01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 3: Scoring to me is a little bit more like thicker,

2000
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 3: a little squattier, but like he's got great quickness and

2001
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 3: he's got a really good ability to him at that

2002
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 3: size to move and very good athlete for his size.

2003
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 3: So both those aggi's are gonna go very, very high.

2004
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 3: And like when I get to this point of the draft,

2005
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 3: I'm always like, so Texas A and M had two

2006
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 3: first rounds on their defensive line and they still stunk,

2007
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 3: Like I just don't understand how this happens, Like, you know,

2008
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 3: it's just one of those things, you know, And they

2009
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:27,640
Speaker 3: have some guys that are gonna come out over the

2010
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 3: next couple of years.

2011
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 5: I want to say, their quarterback got hurt.

2012
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and their offensive line I guess wasn't good. Because

2013
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 3: I always text bar the I'm like, how did this happen?

2014
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 5: Like, I think they only lost one game with their

2015
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,879
Speaker 5: regular quarterback. If I'm not mistake, I might be confusing

2016
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 5: then when somebody else. But I think that was part

2017
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 5: of the story for A and m yea.

2018
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 4: Barth to go to with those kind of random, weird

2019
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 4: questions where you're like.

2020
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 3: Yes, he's my context guy, right, like yeah, I can

2021
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 3: watch the film quite like.

2022
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 5: But they're two edge guys from South Carolina too.

2023
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Canard is one of them. He's more of

2024
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 3: like that like Joshua Cha, you know, screamer off the

2025
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:05,599
Speaker 3: edge later, you know that sort of thing. The other

2026
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 3: one I think is I can't remember off the top

2027
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 3: of my head if they have two. I know they

2028
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 3: and I'm definitely as two those two guys are gonna

2029
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 3: go the in the first round. But Canard is the

2030
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:18,639
Speaker 3: other one from South Carolina that tends to be talked

2031
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 3: about in that like top fifty, top forty range, Okay,

2032
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 3: but he's more of like a finesse one of those two.

2033
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 5: I think they had bookends and they dominated some game

2034
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 5: that I was watching late in the year. It was

2035
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 5: another one of those UCLA ones for me, like he's

2036
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 5: pretty good. Oh yeah, he's like the seventeenth Rader prospect.

2037
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. I like Canard a little bit. But

2038
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 3: he's light, like he's gonna have play strength and like

2039
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 3: those types of concerns. Like my guess is that he'll

2040
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 3: be like more of like a situational pass rusher at

2041
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 3: this level than a guy that's gonna play every down.

2042
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 4: But Canard was the only one I watched it. I mean,

2043
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 4: just throw some other names. The guys that that you know,

2044
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,520
Speaker 4: kind of tickle my fancy a little bit. To Amolau

2045
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 4: from Ohio State. You guys obviously know him Land and

2046
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 4: Jack Big not pass rusher though, like some of these guys,

2047
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 4: I'm like, I need I need an element of pass rush.

2048
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 4: I can't just have the uh, you know, the Jack

2049
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 4: Sawyers of the world, like you know, I don't know,

2050
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 4: but I just think there were a lot of guys

2051
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 4: with some speed and uh and some interesting traits here

2052
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 4: Mike Green to go back to the email here as.

2053
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 5: A battle the threeen was was on at I want

2054
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 5: to say he was like ten or twelve.

2055
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 3: He's got he's got a bag.

2056
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 5: That's Marshall guy.

2057
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's from Marshall. He played really well against Ohio

2058
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 3: State during the season, played really well at the Senior Bowl,

2059
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:37,520
Speaker 3: so he did face some tougher competition.

2060
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 5: And he's I'm not as familiar with because of the school. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2061
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 5: the last couple of weeks.

2062
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 3: Legit, legit. Now he's another undersized you know, is he

2063
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 3: going to be able to play all three downs? Is

2064
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:50,640
Speaker 3: he going to be able to have the length? His

2065
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 3: length is a bubblo average, so he's not necessarily like

2066
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 3: the biggest or the strongest of guys at the point

2067
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 3: of attack, but he had some moves on those Ohio

2068
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 3: State tackles are just filthy, you know, so he can

2069
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:02,719
Speaker 3: rush the passer.

2070
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 4: Read some emails here at James Pettigrew the most interesting

2071
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 4: man in the world, Patriots fan in the world alive. Sorry.

2072
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 4: All I could think about when the blow was happening

2073
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 4: was Fred's impression of Tom's speech. Instead of honor, he

2074
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 4: was screaming, Who's dynasty? Your dynasty, your family's dynasty.

2075
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 5: That's true.

2076
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:25,799
Speaker 4: That's too bad we don't get to get some freddie

2077
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 4: uh reaction here today on that. Well, you went up

2078
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:29,839
Speaker 4: and spoke with him, didn't you? Yesterday?

2079
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 5: I just think he was like me, it's just like, yeah,

2080
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 5: it's just a terrible game.

2081
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 4: He always lives on there.

2082
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:43,600
Speaker 5: It's just such a boring game. Just wanted to I

2083
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 5: just wanted to watch a game. I know, I probably

2084
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:49,479
Speaker 5: would have started rooting for whoever was losing. Yeah, you know,

2085
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 5: I was kind of rooting.

2086
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 4: I was.

2087
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 5: I was rooting for Kansas City just because of the

2088
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 5: unique nature of what they were trying to do. But

2089
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 5: I didn't. I honestly, I really didn't didn't care much

2090
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 5: because I kind of like Philadelphia's whole thing. I know,

2091
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:08,599
Speaker 5: people hate Philadelphia almost as much as Kansas City. Around here,

2092
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 5: I saw a lot. I saw a lot of rooting

2093
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:13,800
Speaker 5: for a media strike and no super Bowl, you know,

2094
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 5: kind of comments. If they moved today, I think I would.

2095
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 5: I mean, it was stunning. I'm glad you brought that up.

2096
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 5: It was stunning. The most people ever watched the Super

2097
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 5: Bowl for the fifty ninth consecutive year.

2098
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 3: It was also stunning that it peaked right in like

2099
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 3: towards the end of the second quarter, and then everybody

2100
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 3: watched halftime.

2101
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 5: And they dropped off after this. That I did see

2102
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 5: that after.

2103
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 3: Everybody thought stunk, Who Drake is no.

2104
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 5: See. I just thought people want to watch the halftime

2105
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:44,479
Speaker 5: show and the game was a blowout, so they stopped watching.

2106
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 5: I didn't take that as a shot at Kendrick. Maybe.

2107
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 5: I mean, I've missed out on a lot of other

2108
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:51,600
Speaker 5: things with that show, so maybe that's another one. I

2109
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 5: don't know about. Interesting. I didn't take that as a shot.

2110
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 5: I thought it was like the game was over. I

2111
01:38:56,920 --> 01:39:00,680
Speaker 5: watched everybody watches the halftime show, and then they were like, well,

2112
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 5: why am I going to go back? It's twenty seven

2113
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:03,719
Speaker 5: to nothing. I just saw the show.

2114
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 3: I just like, what else are you going to watch?

2115
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 3: Because all other programming is on it?

2116
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:10,599
Speaker 5: Like that's a good point, Like it's not like it's

2117
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 5: not like you're changing the channel, right.

2118
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:14,600
Speaker 3: Like I guess, like you know, nowadays with streaming and

2119
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 3: stuff like that, I guess you could go watch your

2120
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 3: show that you're like binging or whatever.

2121
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:22,680
Speaker 5: But probably right, that's probably like people, you know, some losers,

2122
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 5: Like I'm gonna show them change the channel. You're not

2123
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 5: gonna get my rating point, right.

2124
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 4: You don't even have a ratings machine. Uh, Brandon the

2125
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 4: main with a little rant here. I gotta you know,

2126
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 4: I got a shout out to these Patriot fans, and

2127
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 4: he said he sent this text to his dad, which

2128
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 4: he cleaned up for the air. But let's let it rip.

2129
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 4: I now feel safe to say this. All of the

2130
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 4: Mahomes is better than Brady. People can suck it. Brady's

2131
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 4: teams never got rolled in the Super Bowl like Mahomes

2132
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 4: has twice now. Brady never played as poorly in the

2133
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 4: Super Bowl as Mahomes has twice now. And Brady beat

2134
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 4: Mahomes both times they met in the playoffs when he

2135
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 4: was in his forties to boot an AFC championship and

2136
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:04,880
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl. Screw the Chiefs, Screw Mahomes. There was

2137
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 4: only one goat, and his name is Thomas Edward Patrick Brady.

2138
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 3: I love that email.

2139
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 5: I couldn't agree more. I would agree with the last

2140
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:16,599
Speaker 5: sentence and the other one. I just don't really see

2141
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:20,600
Speaker 5: any relevance and the other stuff. But there's a fact.

2142
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 5: It's a fact they played twice with everything on the line.

2143
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 5: Brady beat them both times. That's fact, not opinion.

2144
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Speaker 4: A little love here from I guess it's Rainaldi for Evan. Evan,

2145
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,640
Speaker 4: I was unfamiliar with your game, not football knowledge, but

2146
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 4: music knowledge. I did not know you were such a

2147
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:42,240
Speaker 4: Kendrick fan, and I enjoyed the callback to some classic albums.

2148
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 4: Now to kick off the offseason topic, what are your

2149
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 4: top three Kendrick albums? No ties allowed.

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01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 3: Top three Kendrick albums, oh man, I mean, good Kid

2151
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:55,400
Speaker 3: Mad City will always be my number one. Came out

2152
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 3: when I was in college, So it's just on top

2153
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 3: of me loving the music, it's also just the nostalgic

2154
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:03,640
Speaker 3: thing for me that it was that that is that

2155
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 3: is the peak of your life, of right, So a

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01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 3: Good Kid, Mad City. Money Trees is my favorite Kendrick

2157
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 3: song of all time. I can understand that some of

2158
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 3: those songs like money Trees not exactly appropriate for the

2159
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 3: national audience, so maybe that was why he didn't play

2160
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 3: some of that type of stuff. I personally like to

2161
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:26,559
Speaker 3: Pimp a Butterfly a lot. I know some people are

2162
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 3: not like the biggest fans of it, but Alright is

2163
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 3: probably like my second favorite Kendrick song of all time,

2164
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 3: and I was very disappointed that he didn't play it.

2165
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 3: I thought that that that is a banger like that

2166
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 3: one usually gets people going a little bit, especially also

2167
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:41,840
Speaker 3: like King Kunta also gets people going, so I thought

2168
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 3: that was a lot of people that like because that's

2169
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 3: like a bop, you know, like that's the yeah, exact yes,

2170
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Speaker 3: and then you know Section eighty is one of the

2171
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 3: best mixtapes of all time.

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01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 4: So I mean ball Knower, Kendrick Knower, he is, he

2173
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:00,719
Speaker 4: likes his rap game, he knows it. Yeah, uh.

2174
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 3: My other favorite rapper of all time. We don't talk

2175
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 3: about him anymore.

2176
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 4: So All on the Lights then a little.

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01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 3: Struggles this weekend on Twitter.

2178
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:14,680
Speaker 4: Hey, his girlfriend looks great. We might need Paul for

2179
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 4: this one. Craig and Charlotte writes in I read that Chucks,

2180
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 4: a Corps for was released ahead of free agency. Can

2181
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 4: anyone explain the mechanics of this? If Chukes wants to

2182
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 4: keep playing, why wouldn't we just let him sign with

2183
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 4: another team? And at least maybe his contract factors into

2184
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 4: the compic formula. He probably isn't signing huge contracts, so

2185
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 4: maybe it doesn't matter either way and this gives him

2186
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 4: a head start. Are they doing him a solid here?

2187
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:37,599
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I knew we left the team,

2188
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 4: I didn't know like what that entails that once the

2189
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:41,160
Speaker 4: contract comes at the end of the season.

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Speaker 5: If I were Mike rabel I would just get you know,

2191
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:46,520
Speaker 5: you would not get a compic for him, but not regardless.

2192
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:48,680
Speaker 5: But if I were rabel I would just want him

2193
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 5: out of the building a sap like he quit on

2194
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 5: them last year. He didn't want to play, Yeah, so

2195
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 5: why be labored?

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01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 3: Just like what I mean, Look, maybe we've been talking

2197
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 3: all show about there's not enough tackle, so like you

2198
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 3: never know. But if you're another team, like he literally

2199
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 3: just quit on his last team and said, I'm going

2200
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 3: home with my you know, I'm taking my ball home,

2201
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 3: like you really would want to put any faith in

2202
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:16,880
Speaker 3: that guy again to come back. Like to me, that

2203
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:20,680
Speaker 3: was probably the worst move that Elliott Wolf made last offseason,

2204
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 3: was putting any ounce of trust in the fact that

2205
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 3: you've scored for was going to be a solid, you know,

2206
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:29,840
Speaker 3: reliable starting tackle for the Patriots last year. I would

2207
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 3: not touch that guy.

2208
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 5: If not every lost unrestricted free agent warrants a compensatory

2209
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 5: pick like this. Factors involved how much the guy signs for,

2210
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 5: how much he played for you, how much he plays

2211
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 5: for the new team, how many guys you sign as

2212
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:46,799
Speaker 5: compared to how many guys you lose.

2213
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:48,519
Speaker 3: That would be the biggest thing to me is like

2214
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 3: they're going to sew offset any guys that they lose

2215
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 3: this year by the spending that they do bringing in

2216
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 3: new players that I would be shocked if they were

2217
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:58,480
Speaker 3: awarded any compicks.

2218
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 5: Fully, yeah, hopefully they won't be. If they are, then

2219
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 5: hopefully they're signing you know T Higgins and you know

2220
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 5: who knows Ronnie Stanley, and you know, we're not worried

2221
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 5: about how many guys we're losing. We're only worried about

2222
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:12,720
Speaker 5: bringing guys in.

2223
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 4: El from Wisconsin chiming in here about my hosting Mike.

2224
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 4: Phones aren't working. Also, Mike keeps going to calls instead

2225
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 4: of emails. I think chat chat TP might be able

2226
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:25,600
Speaker 4: to help text with text the speech. If you're like

2227
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:27,680
Speaker 4: me and reading is hard, it is hard, pressures on

2228
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 4: you got to, you know, blest these things out. So

2229
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:32,000
Speaker 4: I think, thank you El for keep me honest. I

2230
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:33,599
Speaker 4: don't know if if you're waiting on the phones out

2231
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 4: and do we go back to the I wouldn't know.

2232
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:36,800
Speaker 4: All right, we're not going. We've had too many.

2233
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:38,800
Speaker 5: I do the black jack the already and I would

2234
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 5: push away.

2235
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:43,719
Speaker 4: So if you're holding on callback on th we're gonna

2236
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 4: fold them on the on the calls today on the

2237
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 4: TPX outline. But I'm I'm blasting through emails here left

2238
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 4: and right. Uh Ken from New Jersey chimes in. The

2239
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 4: one thing that surprised me the most in the game

2240
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 4: was that Reed and Mahomes didn't seem to make any

2241
01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:59,679
Speaker 4: adjustments during the game. When you look at Super Bowls

2242
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 4: fifty on fifty three, the Patriots definitely changed things up

2243
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 4: when Plan A wasn't working.

2244
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 5: They adjusted. Had they adjusted forty two?

2245
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 4: Eh?

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01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 5: Good? When the Giants had four guys that kicked the

2247
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:13,840
Speaker 5: crap out of their offensive line for sixty It's.

2248
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:15,639
Speaker 4: A great comp to that because that was the same

2249
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:17,679
Speaker 4: kind of thing. I remember people that just they stop

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01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 4: running the ball, you know, like that, that kind of stuff.

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01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 5: But I don't really scored fourteen points and seven of

2252
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 5: them came on the last drive.

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01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:25,960
Speaker 4: I don't really see what the adjust like. I felt

2254
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 4: like they were always kind of moving the ball. In

2255
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 4: Super Bowl fifty one, it didn't feel like they did

2256
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:32,360
Speaker 4: they really adjust anything or did they just stop making

2257
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 4: stupid mistakes and they started getting stops.

2258
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 5: Other sudden the other team started and that too, turning

2259
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:38,439
Speaker 5: the ball over.

2260
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 3: So this is a similar but separate pet peeve of

2261
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 3: mind about the adjustments thing.

2262
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 5: And I say this, that's why I asked you earlier

2263
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:49,759
Speaker 5: in the show, because that's been a prevalent themes. Andy

2264
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:51,599
Speaker 5: Reid is a terrible coach.

2265
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:53,840
Speaker 3: So and I say this, I know this is how

2266
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 3: this is going to come off. So I'm going to

2267
01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 3: try to preface it by saying I say this with

2268
01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:00,080
Speaker 3: all due respect, and I truly do would you know

2269
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 3: if they made any adjustments, like like, would you know

2270
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 3: right half the time, I don't even know, like right, like,

2271
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:10,479
Speaker 3: would you be able to sit down and can Yeah,

2272
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 3: like they really they they did this instead of that

2273
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 3: in the second half, or they did, you know, and

2274
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 3: they went into the game with this plan and they

2275
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 3: pivoted at halftime to be like no offense or anything.

2276
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:22,760
Speaker 3: But like, that's a that's a big one of mine,

2277
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 3: Like you really don't think that Andy Reid, maybe one

2278
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 3: of the greatest offensive minds of all time in the

2279
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 3: history of the NFL, just called the same five plays

2280
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 3: over and over again against the Eagles again.

2281
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 5: I don't think. I mean, listen, I'm like you, I'm

2282
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 5: an idiot, Like I don't I don't think it was

2283
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 5: the plays. I think it was the execution. I know

2284
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 5: that we heard this all year here, Yeah, and it

2285
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:48,840
Speaker 5: frustrated us. Yeah, but when you throw a fifteen yard

2286
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 5: crossing route to DeAndre Hopkins and he just drops it, Like,

2287
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 5: what are they supposed to do to adjust? Like, I

2288
01:46:55,400 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 5: don't think the Eagles secondary did anything special. They were

2289
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 5: better than the guys they were covering. Like, I mean,

2290
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 5: at some point you just tip your cap and say,

2291
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 5: the other they got us, they're better, Like, they were

2292
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:15,280
Speaker 5: probably better in nine out of the eleven spots, maybe

2293
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 5: maybe eight out of the eleven spots. The Eagles defense,

2294
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 5: Chiefs offense, and again Kansas City's m always it doesn't

2295
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:28,760
Speaker 5: really matter because we have Superman and Superman turned into

2296
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 5: a puddle on Sunday. Like, I don't think you can

2297
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:35,479
Speaker 5: overstate how badly he played. You know, maybe it was

2298
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:37,639
Speaker 5: just to me it was just so jarring because he's

2299
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 5: so good. Yeah, but he looked like completely overwhelm Kerry

2300
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:46,559
Speaker 5: Collins when he played for the Colts. He was awful

2301
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 5: in that game.

2302
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 4: I still prefer this this narrative. Though, Then if the

2303
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 4: Chiefs had won, and granted this would have been a year,

2304
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 4: maybe they were a little bit down. They weren't as

2305
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 4: talented on offense as they might have been in the past.

2306
01:47:57,800 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 4: But again the narrative was you just you have to

2307
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 4: have a unicorn at quarterback. That's the secret. And I

2308
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 4: kind of prefer now we're talking more about the trenches

2309
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:08,599
Speaker 4: and building the team through the draft and feeling, you know, unicorn,

2310
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 4: you know, but that that's a unicorn, which one hitting

2311
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 4: all the hitting on in the draft picks like they do.

2312
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 4: That's it is, it is.

2313
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 3: But I do think for whatever reason I said this

2314
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 3: in the beginning of the show, whatever reason, it feels

2315
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:22,719
Speaker 3: more attenable. I I think that because it's like getting

2316
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 3: a guy like Brady or Mahomes to play quarterback for

2317
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 3: your team in his prime, like and line it all

2318
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 3: up and everything like that. I agree, it's literally like

2319
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 3: getting struck by lightning, right, like, especially in Brady's case,

2320
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 3: no offense, sixth round pick, like falling in your lap

2321
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 3: and having that happen. But like just in general, like

2322
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 3: it feels like being struck by lightning, whereas it did

2323
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:45,559
Speaker 3: with the Eagles, Like that's just good GMing, right, Like

2324
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:47,639
Speaker 3: you just had you had a guy. I just put

2325
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:48,759
Speaker 3: together a great roster.

2326
01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 5: How many points. Do you think the Eagles would have

2327
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:57,559
Speaker 5: scored on Sunday if Gardner Minshew was their quarterback like

2328
01:48:57,640 --> 01:48:58,480
Speaker 5: Aidan O'Connell.

2329
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's a fair point. And I do think

2330
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 3: the way they run their offense is very much because

2331
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 3: of what Hurts can do.

2332
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:08,880
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts is not that guy that Evan's talking about,

2333
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:12,440
Speaker 5: but it's hard to say he's not a top ten quarterback.

2334
01:49:13,120 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 5: I know a lot of people said yesterday they probably

2335
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:18,599
Speaker 5: put him five. I think that's too high. But he's

2336
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 5: a pretty good player, you know. So it's not like

2337
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:28,320
Speaker 5: they have nothing Evans favorite nothing at quarterback Brock Party. Like,

2338
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:30,799
Speaker 5: it's not like they have like a negative.

2339
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 3: You're saying if the forty nine ers said Jalen Hurts,

2340
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 3: they would have won the super Bowl last year.

2341
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 5: Yes, thank you, Yes, but no, but I think quarterback,

2342
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:43,639
Speaker 5: but I think Hurts is pretty good, Like I think

2343
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 5: I don't think that I don't think they lost. We

2344
01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:48,320
Speaker 5: disagree because I don't think they lost the game because

2345
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 5: of Rock Party. I think that Jalen Hurts would have

2346
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 5: been that much better than Brock Purty and that might

2347
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:55,759
Speaker 5: have been enough for you to win an overtime game

2348
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 5: like do you know what I'm saying. What I'm saying, Yeah,

2349
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 5: I also do. I think Jalen Hurts is pretty I

2350
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:02,760
Speaker 5: was a little surprised about how well we threw the

2351
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:06,040
Speaker 5: ball the last two playoff games because he hasn't really

2352
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:09,640
Speaker 5: done that as much this year. In that game the

2353
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:14,600
Speaker 5: other day, I mean, he made some unbelievable throws. He

2354
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 5: didn't have to throw it that much. I think he

2355
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 5: only threw the ball like twenty twenty two times or.

2356
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:21,000
Speaker 4: Something like that, but he was like eighteen to twenty

2357
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:21,720
Speaker 4: one something like that.

2358
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:25,639
Speaker 5: The bombs were perfect. The third he had one bad throw.

2359
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:28,439
Speaker 5: I thought one bad throw all night, and that was

2360
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 5: the horrific call on Trent McDuffie for happening to go

2361
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 5: near Dallas Garda after the ball had already passed. Like

2362
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:41,680
Speaker 5: that's another thing in this game, Patriots fans. If the

2363
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 5: Chiefs won, that switched the uniforms the Chiefs wore green

2364
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 5: in the Eagles. If that game unfolded exactly the same

2365
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:53,120
Speaker 5: way and all those calls went against the Eagles and

2366
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 5: they lost forty to twenty two because the other team

2367
01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:57,320
Speaker 5: just kicked the snot out of them, people would have

2368
01:50:57,320 --> 01:51:00,760
Speaker 5: said it was fixed. That was the most blatant over

2369
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:03,639
Speaker 5: correction on officiating it. Now, it didn't matter a lick

2370
01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 5: because after that one horrific offensive pass interppearance they called

2371
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 5: on aj Brown, which I thought was horrific. There was

2372
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:15,960
Speaker 5: about eight calls that would have like normally either knock,

2373
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:18,720
Speaker 5: how about the strip sack when Mahomes got hit in

2374
01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:22,360
Speaker 5: the face. Yeah, I didn't hear anybody saying will Will

2375
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 5: Anderson didn't even touch them right. And by the way,

2376
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 5: in my league, that's not a penalty. I'm good with

2377
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:28,320
Speaker 5: no call on a bad time.

2378
01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:29,760
Speaker 3: The Chiefs don't get every penalty.

2379
01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 5: But this is my point.

2380
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 3: If that happened when the game is straight up, they lose.

2381
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 5: If that happened the other way, people would have said

2382
01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 5: that the Chiefs only when Theirs aren't handed. They would

2383
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 5: have said they handed in the game if they got

2384
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 5: those calls, and that had nothing to do with that game.

2385
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 5: Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, well, I mean

2386
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:50,560
Speaker 5: that call on Trent McDuffie was criminal. Criminal.

2387
01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:52,759
Speaker 4: That was the one right at the top, right like first.

2388
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 5: The second series, they were going to go three and

2389
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 5: out the second series after get losing the fourth down

2390
01:51:57,320 --> 01:52:01,600
Speaker 5: completion on a bad call, right, Yeah, they were going

2391
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 5: to go three and out and then they did that.

2392
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:06,680
Speaker 5: How about the blowing up screen pass that they call

2393
01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 5: like the late It would have been second and twenty

2394
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 5: six and they call like the guy went by him

2395
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:15,200
Speaker 5: and knocked over Saquon Bar Like. Yeah, the game was

2396
01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:18,080
Speaker 5: poorly officiated again, but no one cares because the Chiefs lost.

2397
01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 3: It's about times will blowout.

2398
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 4: Uh. Drew from Walla Walla writes in, I was listening to.

2399
01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 5: Just hate officials, not teams.

2400
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:28,559
Speaker 4: This is from Drew from Walla Walla. Oh hey, I

2401
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:31,719
Speaker 4: was listening as I always do to Patriots Happy Birthday Friday,

2402
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,840
Speaker 4: and enjoyed the discussion about Patriots who should be in

2403
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:37,680
Speaker 4: the hall until Duce mentioned Rodney, Harrison and Paul immediately,

2404
01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:41,519
Speaker 4: without any hesitation, announced Rodney was my favorite Patriot ever.

2405
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:44,080
Speaker 4: Not gonna lie that was a little bit hurtful.

2406
01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:48,360
Speaker 5: I can't lie, but you have to say to your friends, lie, Drew,

2407
01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 5: It's true.

2408
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 4: That wasn't really from Drew, but well done, Stephen. It was.

2409
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:59,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, Drew Drew's number two.

2410
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:03,759
Speaker 4: Well, I like knowing you, Paul, like Drew still connects

2411
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:06,719
Speaker 4: to fan Paul, whereas Rodney your love for Rodney probably

2412
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 4: is just more of a appreciation professionally, right, Like Drew

2413
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:13,120
Speaker 4: was just when you could have fun and not you know,

2414
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 4: be a fan fan.

2415
01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:16,840
Speaker 5: No, I really enjoyed watching Drew play, and I did

2416
01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:19,640
Speaker 5: have a decent relationship with him, you know, you know

2417
01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:23,120
Speaker 5: when I covered him and he was he was great.

2418
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:24,919
Speaker 5: But it's I think it's a little bit more difficult

2419
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:28,559
Speaker 5: for a quarterback to have that, whereas Rodney was just

2420
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 5: he was fit. Did you get to cover Rodney at all?

2421
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:35,160
Speaker 3: No, No, he already gone unfortunately. But Rodney was one

2422
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:36,479
Speaker 3: of my favorite players as a fan.

2423
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 5: He was just so easy to talk to in the

2424
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:40,920
Speaker 5: locker room. He would be you would have loved him

2425
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:42,640
Speaker 5: because he gives you. Some of the others he'd make

2426
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 5: fun of you. He would make he would make fun

2427
01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:46,880
Speaker 5: of you for breaking down the stuff, and he would

2428
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 5: try to throw you off the scent. But yeah, he'd

2429
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:50,600
Speaker 5: talked to you a little bit about what some of

2430
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:52,240
Speaker 5: the things. Remember when they used to switch him in

2431
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 5: ty Law, Yeah, you know, like they would Law would

2432
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 5: play safety and and Rodney would play corner to do

2433
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:02,160
Speaker 5: the bump and and be physical and all it. So

2434
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 5: he would talk about some of that stuff a little bit,

2435
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:07,320
Speaker 5: you know, usually after the fact only, but he was

2436
01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 5: he was great to cover.

2437
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 3: Who would used to do that to me? It was

2438
01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:12,800
Speaker 3: it was Devin. Devin would all. I would go up

2439
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:14,760
Speaker 3: to Devin with like a real football question and to

2440
01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 3: be like, I've never heard of that in my life.

2441
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:19,960
Speaker 3: And I'd just like have this like look on my face,

2442
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 3: like am I just a moron? And he'd be like, now,

2443
01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:26,840
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding with you. But he'd always it'd be

2444
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:28,680
Speaker 3: like two days later though, like he wouldn't tell me

2445
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:35,120
Speaker 3: in the moment, oh really yeah, yeah, match coverage. I've

2446
01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:36,960
Speaker 3: never heard of that before. I have no idea.

2447
01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:39,880
Speaker 4: Get out of here, yeah yeah, uh, just real quick

2448
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 4: to plug. My two thousand and four podcast would be

2449
01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:43,960
Speaker 4: coming out next week.

2450
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:45,760
Speaker 5: Excited about that, but bumble bride.

2451
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:48,240
Speaker 4: Along these hungb trying to promote my work.

2452
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 5: But I I not so humble.

2453
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:52,600
Speaker 4: I spoke with, you know, with Matt Matty p for

2454
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:55,040
Speaker 4: this and and one thing he said about this linebacker

2455
01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 4: room was just how professional those guys were. He said

2456
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 4: his first you know, his first year was here in

2457
01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 4: two thousand and four, and he said, well, you know,

2458
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:04,920
Speaker 4: we got to mini camp and I listened to those

2459
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 4: guys on the practice field, and the communication was so

2460
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:13,640
Speaker 4: loud and crisp on every single play in Ota. So

2461
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 4: he you know, first time as an NFL coach, that's

2462
01:55:15,800 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 4: what Maddy p is witnessing with with some of those guys.

2463
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 4: The other thing he said was, like Mike Rabel, He's

2464
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 4: like Mike Frable was never out of shape. Mike Frable

2465
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:24,640
Speaker 4: could have played a football game in the middle of

2466
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 4: April if you needed him to, he would have hopped

2467
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 4: right in there. So just some of the cool insight

2468
01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:30,720
Speaker 4: into that defense. How special it was back in n

2469
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:33,800
Speaker 4: O four and you know with Rodney Harrison and there.

2470
01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you get away from those things,

2471
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:37,600
Speaker 4: and you know, even when I got here, you still

2472
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:39,760
Speaker 4: had the high towers of the world, and you know,

2473
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 4: you had still some of the macarities of the world.

2474
01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:45,080
Speaker 4: Some of these guys really generationally respected kind of players.

2475
01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 4: And but you know, you get to the point now

2476
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 4: where you realize, like man, that that's gone. Like those

2477
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:51,040
Speaker 4: kind of guys where I mean he said, they didn't

2478
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:52,640
Speaker 4: even carry their playbooks around. They just knew it. They

2479
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:54,480
Speaker 4: didn't they didn't need playbooks anymore. They knew what they

2480
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:56,880
Speaker 4: were running all the time, you know, you hope you

2481
01:55:56,880 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 4: can try to get back to that. I'm sure there's

2482
01:55:58,240 --> 01:55:59,400
Speaker 4: probably something very able wants to do.

2483
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yet none of them can sniff the Hall

2484
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 3: of Fame. Funny how that works.

2485
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:08,680
Speaker 5: Do you ever get tired of that? What just whining

2486
01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 5: all the time?

2487
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 3: No? Not when it comes to the Hall of Fame,

2488
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:13,680
Speaker 3: which I think is the biggest joke about the sport.

2489
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:18,080
Speaker 5: So it is we haven't had a show, right, that

2490
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:20,640
Speaker 5: was Thursday. It's a Hall of Fame. I mean yeah,

2491
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:24,640
Speaker 5: I pulled on only a couple of minutes left. Just

2492
01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:27,320
Speaker 5: interesting to me that only four people in the class.

2493
01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:30,320
Speaker 5: They've changed it a little bit, what's it eighty percent

2494
01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:34,080
Speaker 5: now you need so it's a little bit more challenging

2495
01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 5: to get in, and the class is smaller, which I

2496
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:39,840
Speaker 5: don't necessarily have a problem with. I don't. I'm not

2497
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:42,240
Speaker 5: sure that I understand some of the guys that made

2498
01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 5: the cut. I mean, obviously Adam Vinitariy is going to

2499
01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:53,560
Speaker 5: be a Hall of Famer, so not necessarily too concerned

2500
01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:57,040
Speaker 5: about the not on the first ballot thing. That's for,

2501
01:56:57,320 --> 01:56:59,680
Speaker 5: you know, for other people. I was pleasantly surprised that

2502
01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 5: Eli didn't make it, and not because I'm an Eli

2503
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:05,440
Speaker 5: Manning hater. I just don't really think he's a Hall

2504
01:57:05,480 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 5: of Fame caliber player. I know he'll probably get in

2505
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:10,920
Speaker 5: based on his two Super Bowls, but I don't really

2506
01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:13,720
Speaker 5: think that his body of work deserved it. So I

2507
01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 5: was glad that he didn't get in right away.

2508
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Reese talked to is John McLean? Am I thinking

2509
01:57:19,320 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 3: of the diehard guy?

2510
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 5: Yeah? John McLean?

2511
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:25,960
Speaker 3: So, yeah, longtime Texans writer, like longtime NFL reporter, and

2512
01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 3: he's in the room for the Hall of Fame voting,

2513
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 3: and he said there was a ton of Vinitary support

2514
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:33,600
Speaker 3: in the room to the point where it was like

2515
01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:35,520
Speaker 3: kind of shocking even to people that were in the

2516
01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:38,560
Speaker 3: room when the results came through, that that he wasn't

2517
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:40,880
Speaker 3: going to make it on the first ballot. But he

2518
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 3: mentioned the eighty percent voting threshold. I guess that was

2519
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 3: maybe caught some people didn't know that or like that

2520
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:51,040
Speaker 3: was new this year, and it kind of caught some

2521
01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:55,400
Speaker 3: people by surprise, and so they it was sounded like

2522
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:59,200
Speaker 3: it was really really close for Vinitary and for Luke

2523
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:01,120
Speaker 3: Keekley and both those guys.

2524
01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:02,880
Speaker 5: Luke is another one that surprised me.

2525
01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 3: Not getting it, are gonna they They're gonna be fine,

2526
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:09,480
Speaker 3: married into the finalists next year, like their grandfathered.

2527
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:10,200
Speaker 5: In because the high enough.

2528
01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so like that's really just a matter of time.

2529
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:17,880
Speaker 3: But I still just I got to vouch for my guys,

2530
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 3: Like I still feel like it's too hard for some

2531
01:58:19,960 --> 01:58:23,000
Speaker 3: of these dynasty or patriots to get into the Hall.

2532
01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:25,200
Speaker 3: But I think that, you know, reading some of the

2533
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 3: stuff post Hall of Fame, it definitely sounds like there

2534
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:31,640
Speaker 3: are even some people that voted on it that were like, wait.

2535
01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:38,240
Speaker 10: No, no coach contributor. Yeah, builds up next year. So

2536
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:40,960
Speaker 10: we'll see how that goes. You know, maybe we'll be

2537
01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 10: headed there. Maybe Bill Ann Vinitaria.

2538
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:46,280
Speaker 5: Maybe perhaps maybe maybe builds.

2539
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 4: Up unless he comes unless he comes back to the NFL. Well,

2540
01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:52,600
Speaker 4: football season may be over, but you can still score

2541
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Speaker 4: this President's Day weekend at Bob's Discount Furniture, the official

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Speaker 4: furniture store of the New England Patriots. Last question, I

2549
01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:20,120
Speaker 4: hal for you, guys. Are we reaching an oversaturation point

2550
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:22,120
Speaker 4: with Peyton and Eli? Is this bit getting old yet?

2551
01:59:22,280 --> 01:59:23,400
Speaker 4: Have we seen enough of those two?

2552
01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:26,840
Speaker 5: We get it? I mean, I enjoy this, but there's

2553
01:59:26,840 --> 01:59:28,480
Speaker 5: a lot the Kelsey's I'm done with.

2554
01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:32,160
Speaker 3: That's gonna get worse if Travis retires them.

2555
01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:34,920
Speaker 5: At least Peyton and Eli are funny, Like I don't

2556
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 5: find Jason.

2557
01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:38,880
Speaker 4: And at all. I don't find it funny at all.

2558
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:41,000
Speaker 5: I just being I.

2559
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:43,120
Speaker 3: Don't find Travis funny. I think Jason Kelsey is a

2560
01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:46,120
Speaker 3: little bit more entertaining, and I do think he actually

2561
01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:48,600
Speaker 3: talks ball pretty well when they let him. When they

2562
01:59:48,640 --> 01:59:50,400
Speaker 3: don't just let him, like make him do like the

2563
01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:51,600
Speaker 3: stick of being Jason.

2564
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:52,880
Speaker 5: I think that's all he ever does.

2565
01:59:55,000 --> 01:59:57,000
Speaker 4: All right, folks, Well that's gonna do it for this trio.

2566
01:59:57,120 --> 02:00:04,920
Speaker 5: Paul's Paul and Commercials. I mean that one's kind of funny,

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