WEBVTT - The DJ Scream Episode

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<v Speaker 1>What's adding, what's haddening? What's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>Is your boy Big Steve with another episode against the

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<v Speaker 2>Chronicles podcast today. My guy MC eight is out, but

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<v Speaker 2>I am here with legendary DJ scream. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying for I asking applause and all that. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be hitting at applause. But right now, what's adding with you?

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<v Speaker 1>What's so? What's up? My brother honor to be here

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Salute the mcator as well the whole Gangster

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<v Speaker 1>Chronicles fans salute.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh for sure, for sure, man, You know what.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one question I've been wanting to ask you, man,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was saving this because me and you talk

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<v Speaker 2>all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Is tr really the king of the South?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, when you let's let's say this, when he first

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<v Speaker 1>said he was the king of the South, if there

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<v Speaker 1>were people who didn't believe or opposed it, or wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to debate it, I think I think he did a

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<v Speaker 1>damn good job of of of making that case. If

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<v Speaker 1>you understand it said, you know what I mean, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think, honestly, man, for me my honest opinion, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>t I is the King of the South. Lil Wayne

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<v Speaker 1>is the King of the South. Jesus the King of

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<v Speaker 1>the South. Goude, She's the King of the South, futures

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<v Speaker 1>the King of the South. I feel like it changes,

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<v Speaker 1>it goes you know what I'm saying. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you do have an actual king who was crowned, and

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<v Speaker 1>at that time it's kind of like, Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the person who who was uplifting the South and holding

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<v Speaker 1>the South up. You do know what I'm saying. But

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<v Speaker 1>obviously as time goes on, you know, it changes. The movies,

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<v Speaker 1>it moves from this artist and that artist, and this

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<v Speaker 1>artist and that artist, whether it be Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody can say right now, Gorilla the King of the

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<v Speaker 1>Queen of us out or something like that. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So I feel like I understood when

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<v Speaker 1>Tip was saying King of the South. Is like when

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<v Speaker 1>Wayne was saying best Rapperlive. There was a time where

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<v Speaker 1>I said number one DJ in the South. It ain't

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<v Speaker 1>to not know or whatever, but we all compete to

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<v Speaker 1>be number one. We should, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how we all go to and that's how we

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<v Speaker 1>get the coach of going. So we should all be

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<v Speaker 1>competing to be number one and put our best foot forward. So, man,

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<v Speaker 1>the best way I can answer that is, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>he made a damn good case.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, he for sure did.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you know one person man like I feel the

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<v Speaker 2>same way about Snoop. Snoop is always gonna be like

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like the king of the coast. But you

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<v Speaker 2>got Kender Lamar right now, He's he's the king at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment. You feel what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You can make the.

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<v Speaker 3>Case for Eve forty two up in the Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel what I'm saying, because didn't dudes represent the

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<v Speaker 2>West Coast on a high level?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>For sure on a high level. Now do you think

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<v Speaker 2>hip hop? You being the DJ, do you think hip

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<v Speaker 2>hop is going back to being a regional thing or

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<v Speaker 2>was it always a regional thing?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great question, man, hip hop it's like too

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<v Speaker 1>universal to beat region. No. But what I do think

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<v Speaker 1>is that the South had a lot of influence and

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<v Speaker 1>there was a time where I couldn't. I'm hearing records

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<v Speaker 1>from all over the country and they all sound like

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta records, you know what I'm saying. So even in

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<v Speaker 1>the West Coast, everything, I'm like, Yo, this sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta music. I personally like my West Coast music to

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<v Speaker 1>sound the West Coast. I personally like my East Coast

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<v Speaker 1>music to sound East Coast. They can have a little

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<v Speaker 1>influence in there, for sure, but I personally want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear that vibe, you know, to see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we are getting back to if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at what Mustard and Kendrick did with that with the

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<v Speaker 1>with the Not Like Us record, look at Mustard and Kendrick.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at our rest of soul, like how

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<v Speaker 1>Nipsey Hustles sound and everything like that, it just felt real, La,

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<v Speaker 1>you did what I'm saying. And if you start to

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<v Speaker 1>look at some of the other people, even the Cash

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<v Speaker 1>Cash combain the baselag ship, like you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>he got his life, that is like a drill vibe

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<v Speaker 1>to it. But it's it's New York, you understand I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that I think that it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>getting back to that balance, not necessarily just regional, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's that balance of Okay, Detroit Niggas sound like Detroit niggas,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love it. You know that Detroit sound when

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<v Speaker 1>they dropped Okay this on Detroit exactly. I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like I don't come all the way to

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<v Speaker 1>LA to eat Atlanta food. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>You eat food in Atlanta. I ain't going all the

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<v Speaker 1>way to Shottown or or wherever. I ain't going all

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<v Speaker 1>the way overseas to eat Atlanta food. So I like

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<v Speaker 1>it when you know, every city, every section just really

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<v Speaker 1>represent their culture. And you know what I'm saying, manifest

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<v Speaker 1>their culture through that music.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what I treat that too, man. Atlanta

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<v Speaker 2>came on so strong, and like you said, man, the

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<v Speaker 2>South dominance is not going nowhere, Bro, It's not going

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<v Speaker 2>nowhere no time soon.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel me.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, when you talk about the South, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>reasonally from the Midwest. I'm reasonally from Cleveland. But I've

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<v Speaker 2>been in California since eighty eight, right, so I've actually

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<v Speaker 2>been California longer than I was in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. But the South, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember when it first started kind of like making this way.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember him in the Ghetto Boys, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Ghetto Boys, two Live Crew and those records always

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty big on the West coast. They you know,

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<v Speaker 2>developed the following out here. The West Coast always kind

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<v Speaker 2>of rolled with the South. Right, the Midwest listens to

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<v Speaker 2>almost nothing but the South. I think in a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of way. When you in Oklahoma, Cleveland, they look at

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<v Speaker 2>that because we all got faumidly in Mississippi. When I

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<v Speaker 2>was a kid. I remember we used to drive from

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<v Speaker 2>Cleveland to Mississippi every summer. I was born on infant

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<v Speaker 2>two or three weeks. Right, we was always in the

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<v Speaker 2>South when to visit, you know uncle. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>we just have a kinmanship with the South man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not whoever go nowhere. Nobody was ever mad

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<v Speaker 1>like me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like you, I want my New York music to

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<v Speaker 2>sound like New York music, right, I want my West

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<v Speaker 2>Coast hip hop to sound like West Coast hip hop.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not mad at these younger cats that was

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<v Speaker 2>influenced by the Gucci Man's plus by the rich you

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<v Speaker 2>know recipes, Rich Homie Kwan's, you know, because I really

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<v Speaker 2>more than anybody with the melody stuff Rich Homi Kwan

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<v Speaker 2>a Future.

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<v Speaker 1>They just kind of made it the way. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>They were so impactful with what they did. Because when

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<v Speaker 2>Future first hit man, he hit real.

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<v Speaker 1>Hard out here. I would I would like.

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<v Speaker 2>I guarantee you man, that futures audience is just as

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<v Speaker 2>big on California as it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I can believe it. I can believe it. You feel

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying. And I remember when Gucci Man was

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<v Speaker 4>really doing his thing. I got a homeboy Pun Shut,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, shout out to the home with ace boy Pun.

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<v Speaker 4>Pun was always a real big Gucci Man fan. And

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<v Speaker 4>actually I always knew about Gucci Man, but he kind

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<v Speaker 4>of forced it on me. He was like, no, you

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<v Speaker 4>need to listen to Gucci Man. You need to listen

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<v Speaker 4>to Gucci Man and Pun. You know, Pundu Pun.

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<v Speaker 3>Is doing his thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Pun managed a whole bunch of people, high

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<v Speaker 2>powered people. Man, he got the back on FIG podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>They doing some you know, incredible things over this shout

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<v Speaker 2>out to the homies. But this younger generation is just

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<v Speaker 2>West Coast cast man. They was raised on the South Man,

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<v Speaker 2>So you can't be mad at them kind of emulating

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<v Speaker 2>with what, you know, what they grew up on.

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<v Speaker 1>Nah, I receive it. I respect it. I respect it.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. I get it completely. I get it now.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, you being the DJ and radio, do you think

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<v Speaker 2>radio still got a place in breaking artists or you

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<v Speaker 2>think that's over with the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, man, Obviously there's a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>ways with technology now as an artist to push forward.

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<v Speaker 1>You think what I'm saying, Oh, but I don't think that.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen a megastar. Always had this debate with

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<v Speaker 1>people there's superstars and there's megastars. Now I won't get

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<v Speaker 1>in this colum the superstars names because they oh what

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<v Speaker 1>are you trying to say here? But if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at Kendrick Lamar a Lol Wayne A, Nicki minaj A

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<v Speaker 1>Drake a Future, I haven't seen a megastar without radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Me personally, I've seen I've seen unbelievable shit. Like I've

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<v Speaker 1>been to a Tech nine concert. Now, if you know

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<v Speaker 1>Tech nine, you know you know radio and ain't know

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<v Speaker 1>this is the independent grind. You did what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>every night, That's what I'm saying in the fan base

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<v Speaker 1>and his concerts. That's amazing what he accomplished independently. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if I go ask just being transparent, my wife, my sisters,

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<v Speaker 1>my cousins, they might not know who Tech nine is. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that radio still has an aid in making

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<v Speaker 1>people a household name because record over and over and

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<v Speaker 1>over you here in this record. Personalities are big enough

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<v Speaker 1>the record and a lot of kids do follow streaming

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, But I'm just looking to my own personal

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<v Speaker 1>household habits and it's like, Okay, the radio influences my daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. I got a pick up

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<v Speaker 1>for school, I got a dropper off the school. Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the case is, there's the radio there. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it is still the biggest tool. As far as maybe

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<v Speaker 1>crossing over is the right word, I think that's important. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it makes it makes megastars, man. I just

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen any megastars, you know, without radio. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen it. And I could be wrong. I had this

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<v Speaker 1>debate with somebody else, like you're wrong. I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well tell me, tell me a Megican when you think.

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<v Speaker 2>About it, man, everybody, because you know you can say,

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<v Speaker 2>but Gucci Man had records on the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Gucci Man arguably with a song with Bruno Marsh, Gucci

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<v Speaker 1>Man arguably transition from superstar to megastar when he got

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<v Speaker 1>out of incarceration that had them number one radio.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>He was already Gucci. He was already trapped. God. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's just something about that number one at radio that

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<v Speaker 1>just puts you in that household name space. Well, let's

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<v Speaker 1>not take away from the kids that can go do festivals.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you, like Playboy Carti's brand right, my

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<v Speaker 1>card is huge, right, A number one record at radio,

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<v Speaker 1>not that he needs that to solidify his career, to

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<v Speaker 1>make him he is who he is and he's a

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<v Speaker 1>success from top to bottom. The number one record at radio,

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<v Speaker 1>which is it would just be different, you know, see

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Like it's like, yes, you could be

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest artist ever and now win a Grammy and

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<v Speaker 1>the culture will respect you, and hip hop will respect

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<v Speaker 1>you. You could be adult, we'll champion you. But it's just

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<v Speaker 1>something about that Grammy. Man, something about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything get different, man, Like you said, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Killer Mike won that Grammy.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet you that show bag looking way different now.

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<v Speaker 3>Shot out at the hommy.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike, the show bag, the opportunities, the conversations, and everything

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<v Speaker 1>is like going back. The sports people go yeah, hey man, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an amazing basketball players that I'm a fan of.

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<v Speaker 1>I can go out here and the rest of my

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<v Speaker 1>man cave and show you jerseys of people I am

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of I love Hars. He's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best to ever touch a pill. But it's just somebody

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<v Speaker 1>winning that championship. It's just something about it. And listen

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<v Speaker 1>to him as a competitor. He wants that championship, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. So I'm not here to knock it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like even as a DJ, thats well accomplished. Oh you

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<v Speaker 1>know I've been nominated for a b T Award and

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<v Speaker 1>all the other stuff I didn't. I didn't I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>bring home the gold. It was an honor to be

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<v Speaker 1>in that In that conversation. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't lose sleep about it, but it would have

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<v Speaker 1>been nice. Yeah, does know what I'm saying. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>goes back on what I'm saying, is it goes back

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<v Speaker 1>that we play, we play to be We play to

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<v Speaker 1>be number one. So in order to have a number

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<v Speaker 1>one record at radio, you gotta be on radio.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what you just said?

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<v Speaker 2>Something man, I think, honestly, the most important person, the

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<v Speaker 2>most important piece when it comes to hip hop and

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<v Speaker 2>specific the dj M. I would say, you know when

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<v Speaker 2>it started off that way, You remember it used to

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<v Speaker 2>be Jazzy Jeff from the Fresh Prince right, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>Flesh and the Furious Five are being right, kim right,

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<v Speaker 2>I would be eventually to say, Man, amigos is hard.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been a fan of them kids, man, ever since

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<v Speaker 2>I first heard them. I thought they were so different

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<v Speaker 2>and so unique. It was almost like hearing bone for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time. You know, they were so unique. They

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<v Speaker 2>had their whole thing, the way they just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they pattern they stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm menta all that right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I heard them here a mixtape a few.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, you know my son was banging my son,

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<v Speaker 2>you know he was in I think he might have

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<v Speaker 2>been at junior high. Then you know he college grass

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<v Speaker 2>But now right, play the NFL and all that stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I heard that, you know, the hood rich You feel

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, And that's what made me a fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think the DJ gets slept on nowadays? And

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<v Speaker 2>this time we ain't?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Now? What being man? You know, technology changes a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I use the analogy of like sometimes you don't see

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<v Speaker 1>it coming. Like imagine you own ten block busted videos

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<v Speaker 1>and you banking and every Friday people pulling up getting DVDs, popcorn,

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<v Speaker 1>color sprites and all this other stuff. And you banging

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<v Speaker 1>in your pocket the bank, the bank is banging, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you wake up one Friday morning and then you

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<v Speaker 1>get a call like yo, yo yo, yeah problem bro,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what's the problem. What's the problem? Staying called Netflix?

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<v Speaker 1>It's Netflix, boy, they're doing three for five. They do

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<v Speaker 1>it for five or you ain't even got to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the Blockbusters. They drop it off at your house

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<v Speaker 1>and you can keep it thirty days, no late fees.

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<v Speaker 1>Better yet, next month, I hear you're gonna be able

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<v Speaker 1>to log in the app and watch all the movies

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<v Speaker 1>you want.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>You understand the I'm saying so for me. I always

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<v Speaker 1>when we was in the streets knee deep shots to

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<v Speaker 1>my brother Rip, and we had CDs everywhere that you

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<v Speaker 1>can name, gas stations, barbershops, flea markets, we had CDs everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>We were able to say, man, at some point, this

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<v Speaker 1>underworld of mixtapes, it's gonna hit the internet hard, right

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<v Speaker 1>that we were able to transform into you know, your

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<v Speaker 1>live mixtapes and everything, and having our CDs online as

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<v Speaker 1>well as on the streets. That was kind of our

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<v Speaker 1>peak because we flooded the internet and we flooded the

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<v Speaker 1>streets right. Well, at a particular point thanks to technology

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<v Speaker 1>streaming Apple music, Apple music is to Netflix, Apple music

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<v Speaker 1>is Netflix, and the DJs and now whole mixtape culture

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<v Speaker 1>is Blockbuster, you know what I'm saying. So now it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like they're like, you ain't got no exclusives.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't have no exclusives the Internet. I can't. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't keep up with the internet. Different even if our

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<v Speaker 1>premiere an exclusive, three minutes later somebody done ripped it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not.

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<v Speaker 2>Exclusive, no more exactly, and they may get more downloads

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<v Speaker 2>than you getting used the regional source.

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<v Speaker 1>You see what I'm saying. So I embrace technology, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't run from it because I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>ever be a dinosaur.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always want to be You for sure have

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<v Speaker 2>to embrace technology. I was one of the first people

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<v Speaker 2>in the West Coast actually doing podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>When I say podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Audio formutes, you know all you I remember some people

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<v Speaker 2>telling me, man, ain't nobody gonna listen to that?

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<v Speaker 3>And the wound up becoming the biggest thing ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, you got the video component to it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I always try to make it my business to

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<v Speaker 2>stay on top of the technology. Like we were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the one thing we were talking about off air,

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<v Speaker 2>which means you get into further you know, off air,

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<v Speaker 2>but you always have to see what's kind of coming

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<v Speaker 2>up next. And I think that's what the DJ does

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<v Speaker 2>and the DJs, I know, is y'all kind of set

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<v Speaker 2>the trends.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking at Cyprus here was Tiny Desk, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were saying that they almost didn't have a career.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>They album was kind of tanking when it first came

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<v Speaker 2>out because the singles that they picked just wasn't working.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think they said that the DJ had picked them.

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<v Speaker 2>And just kill a Man was the Muns Monks, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that's one of the DJ's, right, they DJ,

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<v Speaker 2>but a DJ in New York just started playing and

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<v Speaker 2>then it kind of cat from there. So just imagine

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<v Speaker 2>the world without no sight. I perceive it has just

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<v Speaker 2>been another rap group that got dropped.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Yeah, yeah, listen, I'm not saying this because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a DJ. If we implement it, more of the DJ

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<v Speaker 1>back into the culture. Not saying we're in a bad place.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think we'll be in a better place because

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<v Speaker 1>I actually argue with artists about final playlist for mixtapes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, like argue, Like now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you that ain't it. I'm in the club that

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<v Speaker 1>ain't it? Bro, put that on your album.

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<v Speaker 2>Percent right, That's what I'm saying. And you know, shout

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<v Speaker 2>out to my homeboy, DJ Head. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you know Head.

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<v Speaker 1>You know brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, don't pick a couple of big records that people

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Like wanting to lose one way on.

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't about to putting nobody's business out there, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, nah, brother, and I would have I

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<v Speaker 2>would get some of the homies cause it's funny because

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<v Speaker 2>they know he is like my little brother. So I

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<v Speaker 2>get the phone calls, right man. You know, artists are

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<v Speaker 2>very very emotional when it comes to their music. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>if he had, you know, the first thing they want

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<v Speaker 2>to do is call you ater is you tell them

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<v Speaker 2>them the truth?

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<v Speaker 1>M M.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, head Man, that single you got right there

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<v Speaker 2>is trash man, But if you pick this one, it's

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<v Speaker 2>one gonna change your life. And yeah, when they listen

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<v Speaker 2>is great. When they don't want to listen as bad man,

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<v Speaker 2>And I really implore all if I was still doing music, man,

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<v Speaker 2>they had a label up DJs would be my n rs.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's that's the way, that's the way it's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way it should be. I think that uh technology

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<v Speaker 1>just made it to where people felt like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need a lot of what makes a record great. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>what makes a record great is taste makers champion in

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<v Speaker 1>the record makes a record great. It's an engineer mixing

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<v Speaker 1>their record to perfection. It makes a record great. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the graphic designer create artwork for that record makes the

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<v Speaker 1>record great. It's how the videographer shoots that video and

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<v Speaker 1>paints the picture of the audio you do I said

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying like these there's a lot of ship

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<v Speaker 1>that makes a record great. You can have a record

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<v Speaker 1>and it can be a hit. Don't get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying you can't just do that on your own.

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<v Speaker 1>But another aspect of that record being great is the producer,

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<v Speaker 1>if they produce the record. There's a lot that makes

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<v Speaker 1>a record great. Again, using this because it's the best

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<v Speaker 1>case scenario for this year, I think we can argue

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<v Speaker 1>and debate, not much of an argue with debate. The

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<v Speaker 1>song of the year is Kendrick Lamar not like us, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think me. You know, so you got Kendrick, then

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<v Speaker 1>you got Mustard DJ on the beat, all right. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course you got the fans, and of course there was

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<v Speaker 1>the controversy and everything that put eyes and everything on it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm sure to some extent you bring up DJ Head,

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<v Speaker 1>So sure DJ Head had a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>head nod or maybe I'm just using my imagination. There's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing definitive, but I think Head might have had privilege

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<v Speaker 1>to putting his ears on it a little early, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And this was the team that said, okay, now that

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<v Speaker 1>we're clear, it's been mixed, it's been this. Who knows

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<v Speaker 1>if Doctor Dre heard this record. We don't know, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Dre again a DJ right now, we can put

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<v Speaker 1>this out. And when I tell you, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest records in Atlanta went through a filtration process a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times my ears included before they came out,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of those records still play to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>Knock if you Buck, Swag, surfing records that will never

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<v Speaker 1>go away, D Manny Fresh Djack that ass. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a forever record. So when I tell people and when

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<v Speaker 1>I try to like give game to the young ones,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like It's okay to play the game for now.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, you should play for now, But I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm a little bit maybe tainted in this. When

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<v Speaker 1>I play, man, I play forever. I want big facts

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<v Speaker 1>to matter forever. I want big facts thirty years from now.

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<v Speaker 1>You understand what I'm saying. The mixtapes I made in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five not because I'm full of myself

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<v Speaker 1>and not because I'm arrogance, and that's not me. The

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<v Speaker 1>mixtapes I made in two thousand and five with niggas

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<v Speaker 1>people still play today twenty years later. That's what hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop is to me. I was just listening to run DMC,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to some ol cool J to get me ready

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<v Speaker 1>for this new project. Are you making pyramids or exactly?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm gonna tell you the one.

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<v Speaker 2>The people who not, who don't have a DJ in

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<v Speaker 2>they camp, they're making dirt piles. That's why you see

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<v Speaker 2>so many And this is not a dish to the

0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:15.119
<v Speaker 2>young cats, right. I love some of the music that

0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:18.679
<v Speaker 2>these young cats making crazy. Young's going crazy, going crazy

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<v Speaker 2>with it right now, but they don't have that They

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<v Speaker 2>make one record in their bedroom right because of the technology, right,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have to pay for studio time like we did.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we used to set to try to scrape

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<v Speaker 2>up forty fifty bucks an hour to go to a

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<v Speaker 2>small studio. Right now they just go their bed more

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<v Speaker 2>on their phone, you know, shot off to the little

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<v Speaker 2>only three one old baby. He made a platinum record

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<v Speaker 2>on his iPhone, right, the rocks Man. Right, we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have that back then. But what's happening now is it

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<v Speaker 2>would be great if he consulted with a DJ okog

0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:55.520
<v Speaker 2>wish it my next record? Beyond established this sound? How

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<v Speaker 2>can I keep this trend going? That's why you see

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of cats right now. And I called the

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:03.280
<v Speaker 2>TikTok phase right the where records are go platinum go

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:06.080
<v Speaker 2>because of TikTok and they be big and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know who these artists are half the time, you

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<v Speaker 2>just know it's a big record, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they need to enlist the services of the DJ. Well.

0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I do some consulting, and often often we get to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where I say, if you're gonna build a

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:27.159
<v Speaker 1>team and be an artist, you need to start in

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<v Speaker 1>five right, So you need yourself, you need a lawyer,

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 1>you need the engineer, you need a DJ sometimes DJ, engineer,

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<v Speaker 1>producer that can serve you know, you know, back and forth,

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<v Speaker 1>and you need that guy. You might call the guy

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:55.320
<v Speaker 1>your manager, your hot whatever, but that guy that will

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 1>do the dirty work, the guy don't have no Hey

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<v Speaker 1>you need to book my artist, Hey, you need to

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:03.159
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call it. The guy that's dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to the cause. If you have those five people and

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<v Speaker 1>you have a good product, you will progress. How far

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 1>are you progressed, that's all up to you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>the fate of your career, whatever, whatever the case may be.

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 1>But you have to have a team. You have to

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 1>have a team. I've never seen it done without a team.

0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:25.919
<v Speaker 1>If you look at the people at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the top of the top, they might

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<v Speaker 1>not have this big, oversaturated team of a bunch of

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:33.800
<v Speaker 1>people that will do nothing, but they got a team.

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 1>That's believe. Jay Z's always had a team. Oh for

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:38.960
<v Speaker 1>sure has a team. Kendrick has a team. These people

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:45.720
<v Speaker 1>have a team. Drake doesn't move without forty, right, whatever

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:50.399
<v Speaker 1>that may be. DJ sometimes DJ engineer, producer. It's a

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>similar it's a similar cloth, you know what I'm saying. So,

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:56.960
<v Speaker 1>but you need that person that's gonna tell you the truth.

0:25:57.200 --> 0:26:00.919
<v Speaker 1>Hey man, that ain't it? Or you know what? I

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:06.160
<v Speaker 1>think you could do that verse better? Yet interesting enough.

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 1>You talk about teams and you mentioned Kendrick Lamar. I've

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:14.200
<v Speaker 1>known Doc Man since he was maybe fifteen years old. Right.

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 2>I was to my homeboy, Top Dog and Punch Punch

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:19.920
<v Speaker 2>was still one of my good friends. Talked to Punch

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 2>every day, right, they was over and Carson, you know,

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 2>had the studio in the back of the house, you

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 2>know you And it's funny now, man, I always laugh.

0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I always till the top when you make that movie, Man,

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Who're gonna get to play in my character? Because I

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 2>was around them so much back then, right, And it

0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 2>was just dope because the more Top learned, the more

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 2>they progressed. And I remember when Top first, you know,

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 2>he was chasing the deal at first they got j

0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Rock had a deal first, and actually Kendrick Kendrick had

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 2>a demo deal with Death Jam jay Z signed Doc first.

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:53.720
<v Speaker 2>It was to a demo deal, right, he got a

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 2>demo deal first. A lot of people don't know that,

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 2>but Top, you know, he like everybody else from they

0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:00.880
<v Speaker 2>first come in the game. He thought, oh, we need

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:02.879
<v Speaker 2>to go get a record deal, and that's gonna take everything.

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:06.120
<v Speaker 2>He said, No, he let them, being even more frustrated, right,

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 2>because it was the best thing that ever happened to them.

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 2>They forced them to learn how to make records, right,

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 2>so that studio became kind of like a boot camp.

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 2>My boy I Lei, who's one of the greatest engineers

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:22.679
<v Speaker 2>the game. Now, he got his chops up during that time,

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 2>and they were the first ones really out here attacking

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 2>those blogs, right, and their music just became so undeniable.

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Couldn't nobody sleep on use. A lot of people slept

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 2>on tde at first. Bro, A lot of people did.

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Now they just you know, now they probably have. They

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 2>gonna probably go down in history, man, right with the

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.679
<v Speaker 2>deaf Jams and all of them. Man, there's people that

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 2>really just are part of the lexicond of hip hop

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 2>m because they did. But it was all the team effort,

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 2>and all of them dudes listened to top. They listened.

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:58.720
<v Speaker 2>They were young, and they was impression. But it was

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 2>a good thing because he lived in the right way, right,

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 2>And I think right now, man, I think that's what's missing.

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 2>I think the technology, as much as good for the game,

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 2>I think is kind of killing it because you're not

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 2>getting it.

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:16.360
<v Speaker 1>You're getting a bunch of people's making records by themselves. Yeah,

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:21.119
<v Speaker 1>it's different, man, It's always a gift in the curse.

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:29.159
<v Speaker 1>I would just say that if you look at the

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>level that someone like Kanye West took it to whatever,

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>we can name so many different people, right me personally

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>as a DJ. What made me stronger as a DJ

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and as an overall person that was a part of

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>music culture. I went back and study. I could go

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>back and talk to you about music from the sixties

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>and the seventies and I wasn't even born, you know

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I went back and study, and I

0:28:57.600 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>wanted to understand where did this come from, why did

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 1>this happened, what made it successful? Da da Okay, before

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I was even blessed enough to meet a kid capre

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>in person or whatever the case is. When I'm talking about,

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm a baby when these people was doing their thing.

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>But I studied them to the point where by the

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>time I met them, like, y'all want you to take

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 1>this wrong way, but I studied you. You understand I'm saying,

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I understand you know the dynamics behind this mixtape and

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>why this mixtape was important? And why did I studied

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 1>the game. I'm a student of the game. I think

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing is that we can have the technology,

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 1>but we don't have a graduating process. We just raw talent.

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>It's just a lot of niggas out there hooping and

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>they don't They can hoop like a motherfucker, you know

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, But there's no so when you're asking

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>them questions like, you know, what's your purpose behind this,

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>what's your goals where you're trying to take it, how

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>you're going to elevate, what's your next album gonna be on?

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 1>What what does ten years look like for you? They

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 1>ain't thought past ninety eight for real, So if your

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>minds if your mind, I've always envisioned being old and gray,

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. I've always envisioned in my

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>head one day. I didn't even figure out how I'm

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna do something else or have options because I probably

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be seventy years old in a club DJ.

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I still would love to DJ to some respect, But

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what opened me up for media. We

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>could sit down and do this at any age. Yes, real,

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Instead what I'm saying. So when you look at a COOLJ,

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 1>a Ludicris, an ice team who became actual movie stars

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 1>TV stars, they had to envision a step ahead of

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Hey man, I probably rap forever. I love the same thing,

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>ice Cube, all these people. I'll probably rap forever because

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I love it in my heart. This is my love.

0:30:56.560 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>But boy, this that young boy sport. So you're gonna

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>have to You can't strict Oh cool J can have

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure this album is dynamic. I still there and

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>check it out myself. It's unfair to try to get

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>him to stream like a nineteen year old kid. It's

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>not fair. But at the same time, Yo, I'm getting

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:26.719
<v Speaker 1>this TV money. You know what I'm saying. I'm on TV,

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>like real television, like NBC. I'm on TV. Yeah, that's

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So we have to we have to.

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>We have to kind of we always have the og

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 1>and the young young headed conversation and you know, the disconnection,

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of like we gotta we gotta share

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 1>that game. Man. I listen, a lot of my game

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 1>come from young niggas. When you when the young niggas talk,

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I listen.

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh, you have to bro, you have to You can't

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>look at them as your competition. You have to look

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 2>at them and say, okay, let me see what they

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 2>got going on. You for sure, buddy, check them out

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 2>of you be lost in the sauce out here.

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I listen. I might not get with you know, the

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>fashion part of it, but you know that you know

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I listened, and then I'll be quiet

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and I wait till they say what you think? Oh gee,

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 1>oh well, I think you know what I'm saying. From

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 1>my perspective, this is how you can tie you in

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>that shit out Cool. Now, we just gave each other game,

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 1>no hate, just love you helping me understand. Man, I'm

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>telling you man, like young niggas, man, they don't want

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 1>to know't they don't want to do all that. They

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 1>just want to go SoundCloud here it real quick. I'm

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>just telling you they don't want to do all that

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah. Man. Let me tell you, brother,

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I ain't never watched the podcast. I don't watch the

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. I watched the shorts. Okay, cool, the young

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>people watch shorts. You know what I'm saying. So you

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 1>got to just take that game in from the young people, man,

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and that's the beauty of hip hop. I felt like

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 1>it's always been. Man. One of one of my proud

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>hip hop moments was Nas and cool Gie Rap because

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I started to understand hip hop around when Coolie Rap

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 1>was at his and for Nis to be at his

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>peak some years later, or not peak, but popping, you know,

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>some years later, if it had to come together and

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>do that Fast Life record, that's what it's about to me. Yeah,

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>it's about DJ Scream doing a mixtape with the new

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>hot young thing. That's what it's about. M to me.

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, speaking to them DJ Scream mixtapes? What artists?

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Man?

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Really?

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 3>What artists?

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Did you just know from the Rip from you first

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>hearing them that they was gonna blow up? And there's

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot going on. Lie, Like I always say, shout

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 1>to my brother Rip again, like we we went through

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 1>this movement together. You know what I'm saying. The hood

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>rich and all of the homie, salute to all of them.

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>But all there was a day I remember Rest of Soul,

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Young Dolphin, when I met him, I may him at

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>a Marriott Park a lot. You know what I'm saying,

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Cast me out gave me the music. We chopped it up.

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 1>We just met. Said I'm going to get features. You

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. I'm sending you a few more records.

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to fuck with two chains this person Da

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>da da dah. And when I got in a car,

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I remember putting the CD in because I always I

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>would have to ride to your music for at least

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like a week before I could do your mixtape

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>to fill it, you know what I'm saying. And then

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I would ride and just kind of listen and

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 1>have selective hearing and all that stuff. I remember, namely

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>being on the phone with some of the homies and

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, hold on, bro, and I call you back.

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 1>You good, nah man, I'm listening to this nigga named Dawt,

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>this nigga hard hang on the phone. I remember. I

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 1>remember taking a long way to the crib so I

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 1>could finish listening. That's how I was. That was welcome

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 1>to Dolph world. And it was just that feeling that

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 1>I chased. Man. That's the feeling I had with Shaddy Low.

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 1>That's the feeling I had, you know, definitely salute Rip

0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 1>he called future. That's the feeling I had listening to

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.320
<v Speaker 1>fut for the first time, so many people. You know

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, you know, in a in a unique way.

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 1>It's a feeling that I had. It was a different

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>type of feeling. But I had Soldier Boys music early too.

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I did this first mixtape and I was like, well,

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:18.360
<v Speaker 1>this is dancy, and I'm not a dancy person, but

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I know a hit when I hear it. And the

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>thing is, this man got ten hits. So I've been

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:33.879
<v Speaker 1>blessed to man, I've been blessed to hear a lot

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 1>of the same thing. With Migos. We know the story.

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 1>We told the story on video of how they brought

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 1>me the first mixtape. Everybody knows. Scream them in the

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>studio like this, that's just me stiff, take this shiit serious?

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>What you think? I'm like sor right, So they're looking

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 1>at me. I hate nigga. We the Migos like, but

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.399
<v Speaker 1>off Set always tells a story like man, we went

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>back and that made us go harder. Like next time

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>we got up in that studio they play that music.

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.759
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't even do nothing but smile. I couldn't even

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 1>have no me mother. I'm like boy, y'all got it.

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.879
<v Speaker 1>That's what hip hop is, man. It's about pushing your

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 1>brothers and your sisters to be the best they can

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>be and understanding that the art that you're putting out,

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:21.799
<v Speaker 1>the art that you're putting out potentially could be here

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:25.359
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and hundreds of years from now. Yeah, you broke.

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Nobody thinks about that. That's why I go so hard

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 1>every day because I don't know what I'm not feelna

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 1>bullshit this interview. We'll know what this interview. You don't

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 1>know what this this, this could be the biggest ever.

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 1>Is always when you think it ain't gonna be nothing,

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>that ended up being.

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 2>You think all the time, and when you think it's

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna be something, you'd be like damn it, then blow

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:46.320
<v Speaker 2>up like I thought it was right.

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, I can't listen. I I I lace

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 1>my close up every day, right to play ball every day,

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 1>every situation. I give it, I give it everything. I got.

0:36:57.840 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 2>You sure, butter, Now, let me ask you this is

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 2>that almost wasn't fair because Atlanta had a lot of

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 2>people blow up who didn't crack that you thought, for sure,

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 2>go blow up.

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Have you had one of those instances when yeah, I

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:12.959
<v Speaker 1>think there's a lot of projects where I would have said,

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you use a terminology, didn't didn't

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 1>crack all like, reaches full potential, like we were talking

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>about somebody who who had Atlanta on Fire or I

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>felt like we had a classic mixtape and who I

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>felt like, to this date should be bigger and hopefully

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 1>will continue to grow. He's still making music. Uh, Young

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Rob the jill Man. You know what I'm saying. That

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 1>was one of those special ones recipes. My brother a

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:42.919
<v Speaker 1>Little Hot, you know what I'm saying. A Little Hot

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>had the city on fire. That was a memorable project.

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's tough normal because you know, and I'm

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 1>not even capping as a thousand plus mixtapes, so it

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 1>gets blurry to me, you know what I'm saying. Uh,

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:04.399
<v Speaker 1>But those those are those are those are a few

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 1>projects that a couple of projects that also Atlanta's ship.

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I just felt like, you know, ah, you know, a

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:15.839
<v Speaker 1>little Hot, you know obviously you know what I'm saying.

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 1>The rest of his soul is uh, he lost his

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 1>he passed away, and then Young Ralph he tells his

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:25.239
<v Speaker 1>own story on Big Facts. You know what I'm saying

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>of kind of the things that he went through and

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the ups and downs and all this other type of stuff.

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>So you know, those are brothers are still like you know,

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 1>you see, and they still doing their thing for sure.

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 1>But that's just a couple of names of people that

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I had that same feeling when I first heard their music,

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>like chills through my body and everything. But you know,

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody's journey is different, you know what I'm saying. But

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I would I wouldn't say. I wouldn't say they didn't

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 1>crack out and say they might not get to reach

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:56.479
<v Speaker 1>their full potential. But you know, those are a couple

0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>of names I always shout out when I think about,

0:38:58.280 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, the mixtape legacy.

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 3>You know, you know who always wondered about man and

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 3>I know he went to jail.

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Is what was his name? He's a producer, Shorty Red.

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Shorty Red. He was already as helld with me man,

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 2>and then I started hearing him and jeez, he had beef, yeah,

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.319
<v Speaker 2>because he did something with Gucci Man, I guess, and

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 2>it was it was just crazy.

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought.

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 2>I thought, if Shorty Red didn't go to jail, though,

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 2>he could have possibly have been the biggest producer in

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:28.359
<v Speaker 2>the game.

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Got a catalog, man, he got a real catalog. That

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>everybody ship. It's crazy. When the versus stuff was going on,

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I was always screaming, like, they need they need to

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 1>put Shot Red up in there with somebody like you know,

0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 1>you get hip hop amnesia quick with a lot of names. Now,

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:56.240
<v Speaker 1>who would you say, like, like, who would you compare

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Shorty Red to? Like who can match up with him? Really?

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 3>You probably get like a many fresh as somebody.

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I personally would do shoddy Red. Metro booming that your

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 1>they have a distinct. They have a distinct either way,

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>they have some This sound is very distinct. When I

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 1>hear Metro booming beats, I'm like, man, Metro, you know,

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 1>for me, Metro when he was young, you just know

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>he's just there's something powerful about his gift. Ah. But

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 1>they both like Metro is too Future, even though Future

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:47.400
<v Speaker 1>has done some amazing music with DJ Spins south Side.

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:50.880
<v Speaker 1>There's so many other people we can name, right, mm hmmm.

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:54.359
<v Speaker 1>But it's something about that future of Metro, right, it's

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:58.399
<v Speaker 1>just something abouty Oh. I don't know where they left off.

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know any of the personal side of it.

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:05.319
<v Speaker 1>There's something about shotty Red and Jeezy Jesus. Jesus made

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 1>some dope music of late, but the something about shotty

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Red and Jeezy this is something like tuping t I.

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 1>To me, that was like and Snoop.

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:18.320
<v Speaker 2>It's like when you had about it, it was crazy.

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you could listen Snoop and go do music with

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 1>for real and it's dope. But it ain't snooping. Dread

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Dre is just this. There's just certain, there's this certain

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 1>synergies and certain like Zaytoven, Gucci Man. Mm hmm, listen, man,

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Druma Boy, Gucci Man, drummer Boy.

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:49.280
<v Speaker 1>It's just certain. It's certain kickoffs, certain certain certain chemistries

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 1>that you just can't explain. It's almost like a spiritual

0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:54.799
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Like it's like when them

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>two brothers getting them on together. It's different.

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 3>They just in pocket, man. And that's the thing.

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 2>When you get those special combinations like that, to me,

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:05.839
<v Speaker 2>you need to let that run go on as long

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 2>as it can have a little bullshit don't happen man

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:12.360
<v Speaker 1>You gotta let that go and want you want to

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 1>spread your wings man, if you're an artist, year you

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:19.400
<v Speaker 1>want to you want to do music with other other people.

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I can imagine when we look at the hip hop

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:27.279
<v Speaker 1>legacies of Pete Rock and see a small gangstar, you know,

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I can imagine that, Imagine what goes into creating the

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 1>art and the music, and imagine how much time you're

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 1>spending with each other. It's a music like it's a

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:43.759
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a relationships like a business, a partnership,

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So anytime that happens, regardless

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:48.799
<v Speaker 1>of what you're doing. It could be music, it could

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:52.160
<v Speaker 1>be media, it could be sports whatever. You know, as men,

0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, with egos, we all have egos as men.

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, stuff can happen. But if you can for

0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 1>the sake of the fans, I agree some of them names. Man,

0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>it's just something about when certain people link up so Dumn,

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 1>it's special. It's special, and it's really hard to recreate

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the moment sometimes, Man, it's almost impossible. Sometimes.

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 3>You know what I was gonna ask you, man, were

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 3>talking about the South Right.

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 2>As far as producers down there, you know, Many Fresh

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 2>is probably my favorite producer from down there.

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Dope, dope favorite producer man again a DJ because and

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, I wish I had the homie glasses on

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 1>here because he was telling me, you know, when he

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:42.760
<v Speaker 1>first got to work with him, My man, he's processed.

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 1>He is he going there?

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 2>May he make the record? He said, it's like a party. Yeah,

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 2>he's having a party. And his drums just you know,

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 2>he start everything out with the drums. Hecause he make

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:55.320
<v Speaker 2>everything fresh and he could be hooked and everything like that.

0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:58.840
<v Speaker 2>When you say that, Manny's probably when you say that

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.439
<v Speaker 2>Manny Fresh is probably radised. Producers come out the South.

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:08.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm from Atlanta, now I know maybe Yeah,

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:10.759
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm saying. But the South though, we talk

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 2>about the whole South.

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Man all up. It is hard. Yeah, it is hard

0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 1>to match what many Fresh did with cash money mm hmm,

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:37.160
<v Speaker 1>those timeless records. Oh it's but it's also hard for

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 1>me to even if we talk about New Orleans sound,

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:46.759
<v Speaker 1>it's hard for me to not at least acknowledge you know,

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 1>beats by the pound. Ye, no limit knowledge. You know

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, It's hard for me to not acknowledge

0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 1>DJ Paul and Juicy J. No, this is my they

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 1>some monsters, but from a production aspect, what they've done

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 1>and how it's been recreated and re sampled so much,

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:14.480
<v Speaker 1>it's just hard for me not to acknowledge them from

0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:15.799
<v Speaker 1>a production standpoint.

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:16.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of tripping.

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I forgot about and I said that before that Paul

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 2>and Juicy probably was the title because they sound has

0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:24.319
<v Speaker 2>been emulated so much.

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:27.279
<v Speaker 3>I think Juicy J said that he was clearing the

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 3>record every day.

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Hey man, listen, it's hard not to acknowledge that. I don't.

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:39.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't have all the names of the Florida legends

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 1>that did, like you know, the Miami Bass music and everything,

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 1>J Mix, DJ mister Mix, DJ mister Mix. You know.

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Actually I think toomth early On got some games, mister Mix.

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:57.920
<v Speaker 2>If I'm not mistaken, this is a good friend of mine,

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:00.880
<v Speaker 2>So you got too. Can't forget about Too, who still

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:02.240
<v Speaker 2>got some amazing music.

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Man, I don't forget about Tom in no way I

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 1>could sit here and recipes Freco Wade not acknowledged with

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:18.080
<v Speaker 1>organized did I have to acknowledge it? So I'm not

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 1>debating is that question. I'm just saying I have to

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:27.680
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge some of these people that created well, I.

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Don't know if you can't say it's the greatest man

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 2>because all of them is so created. What they do, man,

0:46:32.760 --> 0:46:36.320
<v Speaker 2>all pocket they bring their own originality to it.

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 1>You know. See it's it's it's on the West Coast.

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:47.880
<v Speaker 1>The philosophy is that it's pretty cut and dry. That

0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:52.759
<v Speaker 1>is dre right, That's that's the philosophy that we that's

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:55.719
<v Speaker 1>what we get. But I do know that there's a

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:59.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of greats out there from the Bay right then

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 1>some some some timeless music. I do know a brother

0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 1>absolute and I was a massive fan of still a

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:11.520
<v Speaker 1>fan Warren G. You know, is the business you dig

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, like, these are people, man. A lot

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:16.960
<v Speaker 1>of times I think people don't you know quick well

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:26.400
<v Speaker 1>quick accomplished. Oh DJ like listen, but but but for

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the sake of for the sake of barbershop talk, A

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:34.799
<v Speaker 1>lot of people on the West Coast would probably say, Drake,

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't you know the South carries someone's territory. We

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 1>just named all these people, but we didn't even get

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:44.319
<v Speaker 1>to Texas and.

0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:44.800
<v Speaker 3>They all that.

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 2>And you know who we didn't name either, I think

0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:49.680
<v Speaker 2>is he's done so much R and B. Jermaine Duprix

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 2>is a bad name, Jermaine Duprix is the name you

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:53.720
<v Speaker 2>have to salute and respect.

0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:56.840
<v Speaker 1>L A. Reid, You know what I'm saying, You have

0:47:56.960 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 1>to respect that. And then the South, to be honest, encompasses.

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:05.759
<v Speaker 1>To be honest, it encompasses for real. And Timblin they

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:11.239
<v Speaker 1>from Virginia, the South from South. So that's why I said,

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I can't listen, mad he's a monster on the turntables,

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:18.520
<v Speaker 1>on the production.

0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 2>And what he's done.

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:24.759
<v Speaker 1>He's a monster. Uh but Yo, it's a lot of

0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:27.799
<v Speaker 1>great producers below this, Mason Dixie.

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Bro Well that's why I say, Man, the South, the

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 2>South got one of those runs, man to where to

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 2>never end, because like you said, it literally goes from

0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:38.719
<v Speaker 2>east to west right, you know, you got kind of

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:42.520
<v Speaker 2>ends at Texas right and goes back down to the

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 2>bottom of Miami up.

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:46.320
<v Speaker 3>To Va and all the other stuff.

0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Man, it's just so like the influences on parallel because

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 2>it got so many different pockets. Like you got to remember,

0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans got their own little bounce, right, Atlanta got

0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:58.799
<v Speaker 2>his own bounce. You got Memphis that kind of got

0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 2>his own little bop to it. We got Miami too,

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:04.680
<v Speaker 2>and I remember it was a time man that the

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 2>bass music was real big.

0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 3>And at l too.

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm. I mean, you know, influenced by Florida, but

0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:13.719
<v Speaker 1>there's so many greats and so many names we can

0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and those those those records were in fuse with R

0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:19.800
<v Speaker 1>and B to create a whole new genre of like

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 1>R and B in fuse with with with bass music

0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:25.600
<v Speaker 1>and Atlanta music. So man, the history and the legacy

0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 1>is rich, man, it's it's it's just here in Atlanta alone,

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:31.960
<v Speaker 1>not even just speaking of the South. The history and

0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:34.279
<v Speaker 1>the legacy of the music and the production, it's just

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:36.480
<v Speaker 1>so rich. Yeah.

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Real, No, I'm gonna flip it over a little bit

0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:44.680
<v Speaker 2>to the podcast to the podcast game. Now, you just

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:47.560
<v Speaker 2>you didn't come up with big facts by yourself.

0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Me and Big Bank shots to my brother Bank J

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:55.920
<v Speaker 1>jumped on. J jumped on after after our first season,

0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. But yeah, we were just

0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:02.640
<v Speaker 1>chopping it. Man. He'd already did this massively huge interview

0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:04.719
<v Speaker 1>with Future, who you know, doesn't do a lot of

0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:10.239
<v Speaker 1>interviews with people, and they got to talking, oh and

0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 1>had had a big interview. And then when I actually

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:14.320
<v Speaker 1>linked up with Bank, I'm like, man, I'm honest, I

0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:16.840
<v Speaker 1>was interviewing him for my radio show. I was like,

0:50:16.920 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, honest, man, yo, you gotta you gotta do it, man,

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 1>because it was so raw, it was so unfiltered. IM like,

0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:28.440
<v Speaker 1>immedia needs you, like, you gotta do it. So his

0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 1>thing was, and he knows me, and I've known him

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:33.640
<v Speaker 1>a very long time. He was like, shit, everybody talking

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:35.080
<v Speaker 1>about they gonna help me do it, but ain't nobody

0:50:35.160 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 1>help me do it. So shit, you help me do it,

0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 1>We'll do it. So I was like, now, don't play

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:42.280
<v Speaker 1>me with a good time. I think we were recording

0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:48.840
<v Speaker 1>probably eight days later. I went and bought banners and

0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:53.520
<v Speaker 1>lights and got the crew together to record it. And

0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:55.479
<v Speaker 1>he walked in and he was like, oh, oh shit

0:50:55.560 --> 0:51:02.040
<v Speaker 1>you oh you for real? Year was this? This is nineteen.

0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:05.359
<v Speaker 1>We'll be the fifth. The five year birthday of Big

0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Facts will be this December.

0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:09.319
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's crazy, y'all started off around the same

0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:13.279
<v Speaker 2>time Gangs the Chronicles did. I remember, yeah, start off

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:14.480
<v Speaker 2>around the same time Games.

0:51:14.320 --> 0:51:15.040
<v Speaker 3>The Chronicles did.

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 2>And the business just don't change so much because I

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:20.600
<v Speaker 2>don't think none of us knew what this was gonna be.

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:23.799
<v Speaker 1>And I like, and I man, I love I love

0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:27.279
<v Speaker 1>the pure innocence of when I was making Mixed Tastes.

0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I ain't know the hell I was doing people talk

0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:31.480
<v Speaker 1>about and I wish I would have knew better about business,

0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:34.759
<v Speaker 1>but I ain't got no publishing on the Mixed Taste Listen, man,

0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm hustling. But that's what this podcasting was. It was like, man,

0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:41.840
<v Speaker 1>we just kicking shit. Bank was like I could smoke.

0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:47.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, we want you to smoke and curse, bruh,

0:51:47.400 --> 0:51:48.840
<v Speaker 1>do whatever you want to do. I want you to

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:52.640
<v Speaker 1>be yourself. And that's that's that's the element. Even as

0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:55.560
<v Speaker 1>we evolve and the sin and you know what I'm saying,

0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:59.360
<v Speaker 1>we have more fans and we've grown and we're grateful

0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:02.600
<v Speaker 1>for that. We still try to keep that big, facts

0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:05.400
<v Speaker 1>core feel of it. Hey man, we just in here

0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:09.600
<v Speaker 1>just kicking it, kicking shit, talking about topics, giving our

0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:12.480
<v Speaker 1>perspective on topics and everything like that. You know what

0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Like that, that's that's what it really is.

0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 1>So I love it, man, It's raw. I love it.

0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I think everybody deserves to have a voice. I know

0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:24.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of podcasts, hey man, I don't I

0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 1>don't discourage anybody from you know, speaking their mind and

0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:29.279
<v Speaker 1>exercising their voice.

0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what, one of the things that we

0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:34.120
<v Speaker 2>will see. I think the video kind of brought a

0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:37.040
<v Speaker 2>different element to it because you know, there's a lot

0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:39.560
<v Speaker 2>of brothers, you know, doing their thing on YouTube different

0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:41.840
<v Speaker 2>formats now. But I think one of the things that

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 2>YouTube does do is don't nobody like getting those yellow

0:52:44.760 --> 0:52:47.600
<v Speaker 2>dollar signs getting to monetized. I see a lot of

0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:51.320
<v Speaker 2>people kind of like playing around like water and they showdown.

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:55.359
<v Speaker 2>And I think the next evolution, man of the podcast. Man,

0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:57.920
<v Speaker 2>we already don't seen to, you know, go to video platform.

0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I think the next thing is gonna beat the podcast

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:01.840
<v Speaker 2>as when these streaming platforms man.

0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Well listen. I can only speak for myself. If I

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:14.719
<v Speaker 1>go to certain apps. There's a few, there's a few

0:53:15.120 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 1>like Lessen, a handful of TV shows that I watch,

0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:21.600
<v Speaker 1>all big sports fans, you know what I'm saying. I

0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:26.400
<v Speaker 1>watch a lot of sports, namely football. But when I

0:53:26.560 --> 0:53:28.960
<v Speaker 1>do have the time to sit down and be entertained,

0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna watch a podcast. It's not even it's not

0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:35.239
<v Speaker 1>even close. If you look at my watch time, I'm

0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 1>watching podcast and I watched as well established podcasts. But

0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like digging for new podcasts, trying to find a young,

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:45.560
<v Speaker 1>hungry new podcast niggas. You know what I'm saying, Like

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:50.920
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's a world where I think we did

0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:52.840
<v Speaker 1>have to go through the hype of it for a second,

0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:55.720
<v Speaker 1>the hype, Oh, you can make a hundred million dollars.

0:53:57.200 --> 0:53:59.120
<v Speaker 1>But when you when you when you step back from

0:53:59.160 --> 0:54:01.440
<v Speaker 1>that and you pay it to into the pure hearted

0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:04.880
<v Speaker 1>podcast community, which really what it is is just what

0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:07.880
<v Speaker 1>we're doing right now is just having a conversation. By

0:54:07.920 --> 0:54:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the time this conversation is over, you listen to it,

0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:12.440
<v Speaker 1>you learn something, you know what I'm saying, You learn

0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:15.359
<v Speaker 1>something about hip hop history, you got a little game,

0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:18.839
<v Speaker 1>hopefully you're motivated, whatever the case is. Like, that's why

0:54:18.880 --> 0:54:24.040
<v Speaker 1>it's just so important. Honestly, we all say, man, I

0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:26.160
<v Speaker 1>think we all felt a little weird in the pandemic,

0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:29.120
<v Speaker 1>and Bank was like, man, I ain't gonna lie, man,

0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 1>we need to do the podcast like my therapy. And

0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that's when we jumped on zoom and kept it going

0:54:34.760 --> 0:54:36.279
<v Speaker 1>on zoom for the people. You know what I'm saying,

0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:38.840
<v Speaker 1>because it was like, man, it was deeper than just

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:42.719
<v Speaker 1>interviewing people like you said, we have conversations. So we

0:54:42.880 --> 0:54:45.799
<v Speaker 1>have a conversation and it's like we might be talking

0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:50.120
<v Speaker 1>about mental health or we might be talking about health,

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. And it's therapy, you know

0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:55.040
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So being able to just talk to

0:54:55.080 --> 0:54:57.719
<v Speaker 1>people and see their perspectives and know that they're going

0:54:57.760 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 1>through the same thing that you're going through, and know

0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:01.239
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, a lot of times you agree to

0:55:01.400 --> 0:55:05.000
<v Speaker 1>disagree or you agree or whatever the cases. It's therapeutic, man.

0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think the dope part about it is, man,

0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:11.919
<v Speaker 2>is dope to see brothers having those conversations about mental

0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:15.520
<v Speaker 2>health for sure, for sure, because I think it was

0:55:15.600 --> 0:55:17.640
<v Speaker 2>a time man, especially coming up in a hood to

0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:21.200
<v Speaker 2>where you just didn't tell nobody you was dealing with

0:55:21.320 --> 0:55:24.000
<v Speaker 2>some shit, right, and we didn't know what to call

0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:26.920
<v Speaker 2>it back then. Like our knew brothers who now always

0:55:26.920 --> 0:55:30.759
<v Speaker 2>say okay they had PTSD, we just thought they was

0:55:30.920 --> 0:55:33.720
<v Speaker 2>just bugged out. You feel what I'm saying, Like, oh, man, crazy,

0:55:33.920 --> 0:55:36.040
<v Speaker 2>We all had that crazy homeboy in the hood, right,

0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:39.440
<v Speaker 2>but those cats was really going through some things. Now

0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:42.360
<v Speaker 2>they got diagnosed for it. Man, I encourage all my

0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:44.960
<v Speaker 2>homeboys Man, it ain't nothing. We just don't been through

0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:48.279
<v Speaker 2>so much shit's black men. It ain't always about you know.

0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:50.359
<v Speaker 2>Drama is just the stuff that we go through.

0:55:50.480 --> 0:55:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Like, Man, I'll be real with you.

0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:56.239
<v Speaker 2>It was so much going on at one time, man,

0:55:56.360 --> 0:55:58.440
<v Speaker 2>to where I really felt like every time the police

0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:00.000
<v Speaker 2>pulled me over, I was possibly to lose my life.

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:02.640
<v Speaker 3>Life seriously.

0:56:02.719 --> 0:56:04.399
<v Speaker 2>I went through that for a minute, man, to where

0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:07.280
<v Speaker 2>it was just like you bombarded with all this stuff

0:56:07.320 --> 0:56:07.840
<v Speaker 2>that's going on.

0:56:08.080 --> 0:56:10.160
<v Speaker 1>You get pulled over, right and you're thinking like, man,

0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I got my hands from the team, the two how's

0:56:13.880 --> 0:56:14.319
<v Speaker 1>this dude?

0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:16.480
<v Speaker 3>How's he gonna be today? Is he gonna be in

0:56:16.520 --> 0:56:18.239
<v Speaker 3>a good move today? Or is he gonna be in

0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:19.320
<v Speaker 3>the because.

0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:21.520
<v Speaker 2>You never know, have them get scared of us half

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:23.640
<v Speaker 2>time they pull us over, so we don't know what's

0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:26.480
<v Speaker 2>go happen. So I went through that phase, man, I

0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:28.640
<v Speaker 2>went through the phase man that just you know, you

0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:31.440
<v Speaker 2>deal with death so much in our community, just wondering like.

0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:35.719
<v Speaker 1>How am I gonna go out? I think those are

0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:39.080
<v Speaker 1>real things that we just never be scared to talk about. Bro. Man,

0:56:39.120 --> 0:56:42.400
<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's that's the truth. And I'm gonna just

0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:45.640
<v Speaker 1>say you know, my fresh therapist is God in my prayer.

0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:48.600
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. I taught to die about anything.

0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:50.640
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, likewise, but it's but it's

0:56:50.719 --> 0:56:54.360
<v Speaker 1>but it's but it's it's valuable. Man, it's listen, I

0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:57.120
<v Speaker 1>gotta I got a massive sneaker habit. If you see

0:56:57.160 --> 0:57:00.200
<v Speaker 1>my sneaker collection, you're like, well, And what I said is, man,

0:57:00.280 --> 0:57:03.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take I'm gonna buy two or three less

0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:05.760
<v Speaker 1>pair of sneakers a month so I can get this therapist.

0:57:06.160 --> 0:57:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Because at first, I like, man, I ain't got no

0:57:07.680 --> 0:57:10.720
<v Speaker 1>money for that. You know what I'm saying, Man, these sneakers,

0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I love them. That's therapeutic for me too. But I'm like,

0:57:13.680 --> 0:57:17.439
<v Speaker 1>I can I'll never wear all these sneakers. It ain't ever,

0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:18.400
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying.

0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:20.480
<v Speaker 3>But if you have you done therapy yet?

0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Huh?

0:57:22.040 --> 0:57:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Have you had a therapy session yet?

0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:25.160
<v Speaker 1>No, That's what I'm saying. I've been doing therapy for

0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:25.960
<v Speaker 1>like three years.

0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:26.680
<v Speaker 3>No for sure.

0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I slowed down my sneaker habit and invested some

0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:34.120
<v Speaker 1>of that money into a therapist. And listen, she's she's

0:57:34.160 --> 0:57:39.160
<v Speaker 1>brought me from understanding I would tell her I have

0:57:39.280 --> 0:57:42.560
<v Speaker 1>panic attacks, Like if I'm driving and the cops pull

0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:45.240
<v Speaker 1>me over, I start having a panic attack. But it'll

0:57:45.280 --> 0:57:48.480
<v Speaker 1>make me more panicky that I ain't got nothing going on,

0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:51.880
<v Speaker 1>by the way, but I'm just in panic because I

0:57:51.920 --> 0:57:54.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know what they own, like you say, bro, and

0:57:54.640 --> 0:57:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll be going to be literally like I can hear

0:57:57.160 --> 0:58:03.120
<v Speaker 1>a I can hear a siren right now, I'll jump them.

0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:06.360
<v Speaker 2>And you know what the scary part about the Panica

0:58:06.440 --> 0:58:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Taxi is is you think you have a heart attack

0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:09.320
<v Speaker 2>of something.

0:58:09.560 --> 0:58:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I've I've had whole breakdowns hospital like, I've been through

0:58:18.400 --> 0:58:21.320
<v Speaker 1>all of that, and I didn't understand till I got

0:58:21.400 --> 0:58:24.920
<v Speaker 1>in therapy shots the Big Energy, this exclusive info. We

0:58:25.000 --> 0:58:28.040
<v Speaker 1>gotta I gotta spin off of Big Fast coming with

0:58:28.200 --> 0:58:30.680
<v Speaker 1>one of the home girls, Big kaylor shots to her

0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:33.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's based on progression and mental health. That should

0:58:33.440 --> 0:58:40.720
<v Speaker 1>be dropping Q four. But I did not know that, listen.

0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I stayed in the middle class. I stayed in the hood.

0:58:43.160 --> 0:58:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I stuff heard gunshots. I've been through all of that.

0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand and never processing that and just being

0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:53.919
<v Speaker 1>tough and just saying, man, whatever, you know what I'm saying,

0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:57.320
<v Speaker 1>and never processing it and never talking about it. Then

0:58:57.360 --> 0:59:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm holding it in and it's actually hurting me. You

0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:03.520
<v Speaker 1>did what I'm saying Losabo's Green parents at nineteen years old.

0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:06.480
<v Speaker 1>This is stuff that I never I was always a

0:59:06.560 --> 0:59:10.400
<v Speaker 1>tough one. Mm you see what I'm saying, process stuff.

0:59:10.560 --> 0:59:11.000
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:59:11.120 --> 0:59:14.280
<v Speaker 2>The first time I had a panic attack, man, I

0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:16.560
<v Speaker 2>was at one of my son's football games. It was

0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:20.280
<v Speaker 2>his first game starting in the USC, right, and I

0:59:20.520 --> 0:59:22.720
<v Speaker 2>just came from upstairs. You know, you're in the stadium. Man,

0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm running back downstairs, you know, in case the kickoff, right,

0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:28.640
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just sweating.

0:59:30.280 --> 0:59:34.280
<v Speaker 1>And my heart is like my wife looked at me.

0:59:34.360 --> 0:59:36.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say nothing because I'm like skin,

0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:38.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, man, am I having a heart attack right now?

0:59:39.760 --> 0:59:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Point shout out to my boy Big Dennis. Man. Big

0:59:42.480 --> 0:59:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Dennis actually man won him and another one at the homies.

0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Man grabbed me and I wound up on USC side line. Man,

0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 2>the doctor you know, the team, and they took me ambulance.

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:54.200
<v Speaker 2>They didn't know what was going on. And this is

0:59:54.360 --> 0:59:56.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, I was ashamed of talking about this stuff

0:59:56.360 --> 0:59:59.560
<v Speaker 2>for the longest, right, But then I said, you know what, man,

1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:02.160
<v Speaker 2>get being ashamed about some stuff. If I can help

1:00:02.200 --> 1:00:05.760
<v Speaker 2>another brother out man to identify this stuff man and

1:00:06.320 --> 1:00:08.640
<v Speaker 2>just come to find out. Man, I've been having panic

1:00:08.680 --> 1:00:11.120
<v Speaker 2>attacks man, probably for the past five or six years.

1:00:11.160 --> 1:00:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I just didn't know what they was they. Man, Listen,

1:00:14.560 --> 1:00:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I have them my sleep everything. One of my biggest supporters,

1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:20.880
<v Speaker 1>my brother man. You know, I just call them if

1:00:20.920 --> 1:00:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm having a date. One biggest supporters is just the

1:00:24.080 --> 1:00:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Fab you know. He openly said that he was going

1:00:26.400 --> 1:00:29.480
<v Speaker 1>through anxiety and panic attacks and stuff like that when

1:00:29.480 --> 1:00:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I was in a very very, very very when I

1:00:32.040 --> 1:00:33.800
<v Speaker 1>couldn't shake that. So I had a point where I

1:00:33.920 --> 1:00:35.720
<v Speaker 1>was having, like I said, breakdown. I was having three

1:00:35.760 --> 1:00:40.000
<v Speaker 1>panic attacks a day. It just it just was wearing

1:00:40.080 --> 1:00:42.640
<v Speaker 1>on me. But I'm still trying to be strong for everybody.

1:00:42.720 --> 1:00:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to be the strong one and everything like this,

1:00:45.760 --> 1:00:48.240
<v Speaker 1>and me and Fab would bill and He'll tell me, Bro,

1:00:48.360 --> 1:00:50.360
<v Speaker 1>you got to get out of nature like that, nature

1:00:50.360 --> 1:00:51.680
<v Speaker 1>will heal you. You got to get out there and

1:00:51.840 --> 1:00:54.760
<v Speaker 1>just get the sun and grove dis effects, just get

1:00:54.880 --> 1:00:57.760
<v Speaker 1>healed and just and then my therapist was just like

1:00:58.240 --> 1:01:00.480
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I'm being honest. Until you learn how to

1:01:00.680 --> 1:01:03.040
<v Speaker 1>truly let go you're gonna suffer. You gotta let go.

1:01:03.760 --> 1:01:05.800
<v Speaker 1>You gotta just let go. You gotta be able to

1:01:05.840 --> 1:01:08.960
<v Speaker 1>say fuck it. Fuck, fuck the DJ screen ship, fuck

1:01:09.040 --> 1:01:11.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to do this, Fuck your payroll and the people.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta pa fuck it and focus on you. Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot. I don't think people understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been like I was in the Mixed game. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>I bought my first house because of the Mixtape.

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<v Speaker 3>Game, you know, due to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, when we was able to you know, before the

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<v Speaker 2>mother Cats got busted and doing what they was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it was just a real crazy time, right

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<v Speaker 2>because I was doing homie dads and them stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, you know we was getting cod man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yes, yeah, yeah, you know, so it was cracking.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I went through that phase, man, to wear

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of dried up because I remember when that

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<v Speaker 2>happened to Drama and them. Dog, I had to come

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<v Speaker 2>to owe me like one hundred and fifty dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>That was dog. Yeah, we all remember that day. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we all lost a little change that day.

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<v Speaker 2>And the whole thing about it is I just paid

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<v Speaker 2>out on some stuff and I'm like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting this wired at the end of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to pay them out now, right, so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't pay money off man that I'm thinking coming back

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<v Speaker 2>in the end of the week. And they're like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't get you know, ain't nothing happening. This hm

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<v Speaker 2>V is a company, you know, the record chain over

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<v Speaker 2>in England. Right, They wasn't playing out and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of my mixtapes was original music. They just couldn't get

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<v Speaker 2>clear through the you know, they were stuff that people

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't go. They didn't make albums right, And so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with these cats. They asked me, man, what's up

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<v Speaker 2>with the bread? And I actually had to show them like, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not getting paid. You know, it ain't like it

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<v Speaker 2>ain't there. And I really went through this transition. I

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<v Speaker 2>just got my first A and R job at that time,

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<v Speaker 2>so I wasn't really tripping, but I was. I was like, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>I just lost the grip of money. I would like

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<v Speaker 2>to had that income going. But that showed me something

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<v Speaker 2>I learned a valuable lesson during that time, bro, is

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<v Speaker 2>that you can't take nothing for granted.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't tell you yet. Man, Let's go back to

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<v Speaker 1>what I was saying earlier about lacing up them cleats

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<v Speaker 1>every day being grateful. You're not knowing because that was

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<v Speaker 1>the pivot, you know what I'm saying. When when the

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<v Speaker 1>whole mixtape raid went down, it was like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know we're highly dependent upon this, Like this is

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<v Speaker 1>what we depend on, you know what I mean? And now, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>before like covid hit, I already put myself in the

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<v Speaker 1>mindset of I never want to depend on one thing

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<v Speaker 1>too much, my livelihood. You can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm already thinking about man, Like you know, you got

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<v Speaker 2>other podcasts. I got other stuff that I'm doing now, man,

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<v Speaker 2>and looking forward to doing, like on the film side,

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<v Speaker 2>man on the documentary side.

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<v Speaker 3>Just different stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I reconnected with one of my homeboys, man and.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the head of security for the ZEUS network, and

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<v Speaker 2>me and him played college football together. I came out

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<v Speaker 2>here to go to a Juco, right, I went to

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<v Speaker 2>a Juco first Long Beat City College. And when I say,

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<v Speaker 2>he was probably the coldest outside lineback round every single man,

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<v Speaker 2>my boy shout.

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<v Speaker 1>Out the big A D.

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<v Speaker 3>But we you know you lose track. Did you played basketball?

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't you? I never? I never. I was never good

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<v Speaker 1>enough to say I played.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you played sports though, right, I bounced a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of basketballs. But I'm a DJ man. But no, I,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I follow sports. You know, I followed back.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's one of new things, man, to where

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<v Speaker 2>you got a close bond with somebody, then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>life happened, you start moving on, right. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of catching up with him, man, what happened

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<v Speaker 2>to him? Because you know, right now he's doing really well.

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<v Speaker 2>Because right now, right now, he doing really well for himself, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he had a security for Zeus. You have

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<v Speaker 2>the Zeus right, all the message stuff, right, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know he making a bunch of money. Man doing well.

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<v Speaker 2>But he took was talking to me, man about this

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<v Speaker 2>dark period that he went through and his wife left him,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know he was like homeless, not homeless, but

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<v Speaker 2>like living out of hotels for a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was just like, bro, I felt real fucked up.

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<v Speaker 3>When he told me. Next, I was like, why didn't

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<v Speaker 3>you call me bro? Mm hm, why didn't you you know,

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<v Speaker 3>try to catch up with me?

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<v Speaker 2>You know me and you boys, right, And he just like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want nobody to see me like that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like, man, I would hope that anybody

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<v Speaker 2>I really call my friend, or wouldn't let pride be

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<v Speaker 2>the reason they don't get at me from the help?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I got a homeboy, somebody that was big in

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<v Speaker 2>the industry that just committed suicide. I ain't gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>his name out of respected family, but I just wonder, like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>don't ever be too prized for reach out for help?

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<v Speaker 1>Man? Yeah, you know, you know, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just checking on people. Like some people their pride in

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<v Speaker 1>their ego is not one of being able to just

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<v Speaker 1>say I need help, right, I think that you have to. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's all good for us to do therapy

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<v Speaker 1>and just study mental health so that we can look

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<v Speaker 1>at indicators. Indicators are kind of like people withdrawing, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, not doing the things that they

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<v Speaker 1>usually do that make them happy, Like if one of

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<v Speaker 1>my parts breaks a chain, Like if we all say

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<v Speaker 1>we play chess or something whatever, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna be like, bro, all right, you sure

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<v Speaker 1>you could. And they were like they might just be like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tired, or it might just be they this might

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<v Speaker 1>be real tired, but they're like when people do stuff

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<v Speaker 1>consistently and then they kind of break that consistency. It's

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<v Speaker 1>healthy just to say are you okay? Because you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>surprised if we got enough. Are you okay? Is going?

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<v Speaker 1>This would get more people to open up. But a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't ask people if they're okay, especially

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<v Speaker 1>especially two And it's like I just be like, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you straight, You're sure? It ain't got to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>hey are you okay? I get it, Bro, you straight?

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<v Speaker 1>Everything cool? You sure? You look you look a little

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<v Speaker 1>stretched and look a little down, like you need to

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<v Speaker 1>holler at me. That's the least that we can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of do we have.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the biggest thing, man, because sometimes man, you may

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<v Speaker 2>be saving somebody's life man by just checking in on them.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, because.

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<v Speaker 1>It's man. You know what my one of my favorite movies,

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<v Speaker 1>Hustling Flow is hard out here for a pimp man,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And not to listen, not

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<v Speaker 1>to take anything away. You know, we're just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, African Americans, but like black women, black men,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, I check on my wife, she checks

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<v Speaker 1>on me, like as a woman as a black woman,

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<v Speaker 1>as a mother. Imagine like the stuff that a black

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<v Speaker 1>woman has to go through on a day to day

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<v Speaker 1>basis for real. But you have to also respect, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the black black man is the providers and everything. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot that everybody goes through. So I tell

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<v Speaker 1>people relationships instead of trying to kind of like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going through more than you. Love. Me and my wife

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<v Speaker 1>try to support each other and say like, all right, today,

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<v Speaker 1>you seem like you had no more stressful day than

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<v Speaker 1>I did. So let's talk about you and make you comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me rub your feet, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me do this. What's something I can do for you?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, let me cook the dinner, dad saying. Or

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<v Speaker 1>some days my wife might just be like should just

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<v Speaker 1>take my phone, like go shit down? Yeah, just go

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<v Speaker 1>sit down, Just go just go sit down and just chill.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be here tomorrow, you know what I'm saying. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I've been living in a like I told you, man,

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<v Speaker 1>since eighty eight. My moms is in Atlanta. Man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really looking at making that move down there next summer

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<v Speaker 1>by me house man show us when I got out here,

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<v Speaker 1>just because I like the fact, man, it's peachful out there.

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<v Speaker 3>I like being the fact man, I can go on

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<v Speaker 3>my mom's backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>And just walk. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just just be cool, man, and just really just

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<v Speaker 2>might go out there and just just go out there, man,

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<v Speaker 2>and really just enjoy nature. And they got a little

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<v Speaker 2>you know, benches out, very few things.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. You just sit down, bro, and you turn

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<v Speaker 1>that phone off. Man, you might. I remember I went

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<v Speaker 1>back there and read a book.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I was back there reading a book, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I just said, Man, I cannot do this in

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles, man, because it's too much going on all

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that I always admire. The homies. Just stay in

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<v Speaker 1>LA the homies, just stay in New York City. There

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<v Speaker 1>are two beautiful places that I love to come to

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<v Speaker 1>and visit, you know for some days. But there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>certain things. There's certain things I do in Atlanta for

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<v Speaker 1>my own wellbeing, spiritual wellbeing. We got a lot of parks,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a lot of trails, a lot of nature stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to do where I am. And to get

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<v Speaker 1>me wrong, I've been in the city all my life.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is something of recent up the last three

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<v Speaker 1>or four years. But like that, eat me in two.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. I always toot like we

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<v Speaker 1>just left l A for the bt BT Awards, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like in la is a beautiful city,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just that it's a city.

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<v Speaker 3>A city. And man, when I tell you it's expensive

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<v Speaker 3>out here, man, I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell you understand how y'all like if gas was six

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<v Speaker 1>seven dollars here you see me walking around everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro, I'm looking at some of the bills we'd be

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<v Speaker 2>having every month, and I'd be like, thank you Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>that like I can.

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<v Speaker 1>I can do it. And again, I'm not living in

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<v Speaker 1>no like you know, seven eight bedroom, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>about what I paid for out here. I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I could be down there, brilliant, something really nice. It's good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's feeling up fast, but it's good. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Man, I would be there man with Man. I

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<v Speaker 2>know you've got a lot of stuff going on. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you coming to hang out with your boy

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<v Speaker 2>today anytime. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, please keep it keep it going for your

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<v Speaker 1>fans and for the culture. You know, I'm always one

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<v Speaker 1>call away my brother for sure. For all the Homies

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<v Speaker 1>and homegirls.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, y'all make sure y'all can check out the Big

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<v Speaker 2>Facts podcast what they y'all drop on?

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<v Speaker 1>Bro? You can check that audio out Tuesdays Wednesdays you

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<v Speaker 1>can watch watch the Visual TV Revolt and Thursdays Thursdays Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>seven pm on that YouTube, Big Faction Network YouTube. We're

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<v Speaker 1>dropping that every Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, And I wish and we

1:11:25.640 --> 1:11:28.360
<v Speaker 3>all had the links down there. Man, I appreciate you, bro.

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<v Speaker 3>Peace and ill y'all next

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<v Speaker 1>Week, all right, so little to you appreciate, You appreciate you, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, hold on