Speaker 1: What's adding, what's haddening? What's happening?
Speaker 2: Is your boy Big Steve with another episode against the
Speaker 2: Chronicles podcast today. My guy MC eight is out, but
Speaker 2: I am here with legendary DJ scream. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying for I asking applause and all that. I'll
Speaker 2: be hitting at applause. But right now, what's adding with you?
Speaker 1: What's so? What's up? My brother honor to be here
Speaker 1: with you. Salute the mcator as well the whole Gangster
Speaker 1: Chronicles fans salute.
Speaker 3: Oh for sure, for sure, man, You know what.
Speaker 2: It was one question I've been wanting to ask you, man,
Speaker 2: and I was saving this because me and you talk
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 3: Is tr really the king of the South?
Speaker 1: Well, when you let's let's say this, when he first
Speaker 1: said he was the king of the South, if there
Speaker 1: were people who didn't believe or opposed it, or wanted
Speaker 1: to debate it, I think I think he did a
Speaker 1: damn good job of of of making that case. If
Speaker 1: you understand it said, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 1: I think, honestly, man, for me my honest opinion, Yeah,
Speaker 1: t I is the King of the South. Lil Wayne
Speaker 1: is the King of the South. Jesus the King of
Speaker 1: the South. Goude, She's the King of the South, futures
Speaker 1: the King of the South. I feel like it changes,
Speaker 1: it goes you know what I'm saying. I feel like
Speaker 1: you do have an actual king who was crowned, and
Speaker 1: at that time it's kind of like, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: the person who who was uplifting the South and holding
Speaker 1: the South up. You do know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: obviously as time goes on, you know, it changes. The movies,
Speaker 1: it moves from this artist and that artist, and this
Speaker 1: artist and that artist, whether it be Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: somebody can say right now, Gorilla the King of the
Speaker 1: Queen of us out or something like that. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I feel like I understood when
Speaker 1: Tip was saying King of the South. Is like when
Speaker 1: Wayne was saying best Rapperlive. There was a time where
Speaker 1: I said number one DJ in the South. It ain't
Speaker 1: to not know or whatever, but we all compete to
Speaker 1: be number one. We should, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's how we all go to and that's how we
Speaker 1: get the coach of going. So we should all be
Speaker 1: competing to be number one and put our best foot forward. So, man,
Speaker 1: the best way I can answer that is, like I said,
Speaker 1: he made a damn good case.
Speaker 3: Oh, he for sure did.
Speaker 2: Now you know one person man like I feel the
Speaker 2: same way about Snoop. Snoop is always gonna be like
Speaker 2: kind of like the king of the coast. But you
Speaker 2: got Kender Lamar right now, He's he's the king at
Speaker 2: the moment. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You can make the.
Speaker 3: Case for Eve forty two up in the Bay.
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying, because didn't dudes represent the
Speaker 2: West Coast on a high level?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: For sure on a high level. Now do you think
Speaker 2: hip hop? You being the DJ, do you think hip
Speaker 2: hop is going back to being a regional thing or
Speaker 2: was it always a regional thing?
Speaker 1: That's a great question, man, hip hop it's like too
Speaker 1: universal to beat region. No. But what I do think
Speaker 1: is that the South had a lot of influence and
Speaker 1: there was a time where I couldn't. I'm hearing records
Speaker 1: from all over the country and they all sound like
Speaker 1: Atlanta records, you know what I'm saying. So even in
Speaker 1: the West Coast, everything, I'm like, Yo, this sounds like
Speaker 1: Atlanta music. I personally like my West Coast music to
Speaker 1: sound the West Coast. I personally like my East Coast
Speaker 1: music to sound East Coast. They can have a little
Speaker 1: influence in there, for sure, but I personally want to
Speaker 1: hear that vibe, you know, to see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think we are getting back to if you look
Speaker 1: at what Mustard and Kendrick did with that with the
Speaker 1: with the Not Like Us record, look at Mustard and Kendrick.
Speaker 1: If you look at our rest of soul, like how
Speaker 1: Nipsey Hustles sound and everything like that, it just felt real, La,
Speaker 1: you did what I'm saying. And if you start to
Speaker 1: look at some of the other people, even the Cash
Speaker 1: Cash combain the baselag ship, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: he got his life, that is like a drill vibe
Speaker 1: to it. But it's it's New York, you understand I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I think that I think that it's kind of
Speaker 1: getting back to that balance, not necessarily just regional, but
Speaker 1: there's that balance of Okay, Detroit Niggas sound like Detroit niggas,
Speaker 1: and I love it. You know that Detroit sound when
Speaker 1: they dropped Okay this on Detroit exactly. I like that.
Speaker 1: It's just like I don't come all the way to
Speaker 1: LA to eat Atlanta food. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You eat food in Atlanta. I ain't going all the
Speaker 1: way to Shottown or or wherever. I ain't going all
Speaker 1: the way overseas to eat Atlanta food. So I like
Speaker 1: it when you know, every city, every section just really
Speaker 1: represent their culture. And you know what I'm saying, manifest
Speaker 1: their culture through that music.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what I treat that too, man. Atlanta
Speaker 2: came on so strong, and like you said, man, the
Speaker 2: South dominance is not going nowhere, Bro, It's not going
Speaker 2: nowhere no time soon.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 2: First of all, when you talk about the South, I'm
Speaker 2: reasonally from the Midwest. I'm reasonally from Cleveland. But I've
Speaker 2: been in California since eighty eight, right, so I've actually
Speaker 2: been California longer than I was in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Right. But the South, and I.
Speaker 2: Remember when it first started kind of like making this way.
Speaker 2: I remember him in the Ghetto Boys, right, you know,
Speaker 2: the Ghetto Boys, two Live Crew and those records always
Speaker 2: was pretty big on the West coast. They you know,
Speaker 2: developed the following out here. The West Coast always kind
Speaker 2: of rolled with the South. Right, the Midwest listens to
Speaker 2: almost nothing but the South. I think in a lot
Speaker 2: of way. When you in Oklahoma, Cleveland, they look at
Speaker 2: that because we all got faumidly in Mississippi. When I
Speaker 2: was a kid. I remember we used to drive from
Speaker 2: Cleveland to Mississippi every summer. I was born on infant
Speaker 2: two or three weeks. Right, we was always in the
Speaker 2: South when to visit, you know uncle. So I think
Speaker 2: we just have a kinmanship with the South man.
Speaker 1: It's just not whoever go nowhere. Nobody was ever mad
Speaker 1: like me.
Speaker 2: I'm like you, I want my New York music to
Speaker 2: sound like New York music, right, I want my West
Speaker 2: Coast hip hop to sound like West Coast hip hop.
Speaker 2: But I'm not mad at these younger cats that was
Speaker 2: influenced by the Gucci Man's plus by the rich you
Speaker 2: know recipes, Rich Homie Kwan's, you know, because I really
Speaker 2: more than anybody with the melody stuff Rich Homi Kwan
Speaker 2: a Future.
Speaker 1: They just kind of made it the way. You know.
Speaker 2: They were so impactful with what they did. Because when
Speaker 2: Future first hit man, he hit real.
Speaker 1: Hard out here. I would I would like.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you man, that futures audience is just as
Speaker 2: big on California as it is.
Speaker 4: I can believe it. I can believe it. You feel
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And I remember when Gucci Man was
Speaker 4: really doing his thing. I got a homeboy Pun Shut,
Speaker 4: you know, shout out to the home with ace boy Pun.
Speaker 4: Pun was always a real big Gucci Man fan. And
Speaker 4: actually I always knew about Gucci Man, but he kind
Speaker 4: of forced it on me. He was like, no, you
Speaker 4: need to listen to Gucci Man. You need to listen
Speaker 4: to Gucci Man and Pun. You know, Pundu Pun.
Speaker 3: Is doing his thing.
Speaker 2: You know, Pun managed a whole bunch of people, high
Speaker 2: powered people. Man, he got the back on FIG podcasts.
Speaker 2: They doing some you know, incredible things over this shout
Speaker 2: out to the homies. But this younger generation is just
Speaker 2: West Coast cast man. They was raised on the South Man,
Speaker 2: So you can't be mad at them kind of emulating
Speaker 2: with what, you know, what they grew up on.
Speaker 1: Nah, I receive it. I respect it. I respect it.
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it completely. I get it now.
Speaker 2: Now, you being the DJ and radio, do you think
Speaker 2: radio still got a place in breaking artists or you
Speaker 2: think that's over with the internet.
Speaker 1: You know what, man, Obviously there's a lot of different
Speaker 1: ways with technology now as an artist to push forward.
Speaker 1: You think what I'm saying, Oh, but I don't think that.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a megastar. Always had this debate with
Speaker 1: people there's superstars and there's megastars. Now I won't get
Speaker 1: in this colum the superstars names because they oh what
Speaker 1: are you trying to say here? But if you look
Speaker 1: at Kendrick Lamar a Lol Wayne A, Nicki minaj A
Speaker 1: Drake a Future, I haven't seen a megastar without radio.
Speaker 1: Me personally, I've seen I've seen unbelievable shit. Like I've
Speaker 1: been to a Tech nine concert. Now, if you know
Speaker 1: Tech nine, you know you know radio and ain't know
Speaker 1: this is the independent grind. You did what I'm saying
Speaker 1: every night, That's what I'm saying in the fan base
Speaker 1: and his concerts. That's amazing what he accomplished independently. Now,
Speaker 1: if I go ask just being transparent, my wife, my sisters,
Speaker 1: my cousins, they might not know who Tech nine is. Right,
Speaker 1: I think that radio still has an aid in making
Speaker 1: people a household name because record over and over and
Speaker 1: over you here in this record. Personalities are big enough
Speaker 1: the record and a lot of kids do follow streaming
Speaker 1: for sure, But I'm just looking to my own personal
Speaker 1: household habits and it's like, Okay, the radio influences my daughter,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I got a pick up
Speaker 1: for school, I got a dropper off the school. Whatever
Speaker 1: the case is, there's the radio there. So I think
Speaker 1: it is still the biggest tool. As far as maybe
Speaker 1: crossing over is the right word, I think that's important. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it makes it makes megastars, man. I just
Speaker 1: haven't seen any megastars, you know, without radio. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen it. And I could be wrong. I had this
Speaker 1: debate with somebody else, like you're wrong. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: well tell me, tell me a Megican when you think.
Speaker 2: About it, man, everybody, because you know you can say,
Speaker 2: but Gucci Man had records on the radio.
Speaker 1: Gucci Man arguably with a song with Bruno Marsh, Gucci
Speaker 1: Man arguably transition from superstar to megastar when he got
Speaker 1: out of incarceration that had them number one radio.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 1: He was already Gucci. He was already trapped. God. But
Speaker 1: it's just something about that number one at radio that
Speaker 1: just puts you in that household name space. Well, let's
Speaker 1: not take away from the kids that can go do festivals.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, like Playboy Carti's brand right, my
Speaker 1: card is huge, right, A number one record at radio,
Speaker 1: not that he needs that to solidify his career, to
Speaker 1: make him he is who he is and he's a
Speaker 1: success from top to bottom. The number one record at radio,
Speaker 1: which is it would just be different, you know, see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like it's like, yes, you could be
Speaker 1: the biggest artist ever and now win a Grammy and
Speaker 1: the culture will respect you, and hip hop will respect
Speaker 1: you. You could be adult, we'll champion you. But it's just
Speaker 1: something about that Grammy. Man, something about it.
Speaker 2: Everything get different, man, Like you said, like you know,
Speaker 2: Killer Mike won that Grammy.
Speaker 3: I bet you that show bag looking way different now.
Speaker 3: Shot out at the hommy.
Speaker 1: Mike, the show bag, the opportunities, the conversations, and everything
Speaker 1: is like going back. The sports people go yeah, hey man, yes,
Speaker 1: this is an amazing basketball players that I'm a fan of.
Speaker 1: I can go out here and the rest of my
Speaker 1: man cave and show you jerseys of people I am
Speaker 1: a fan of I love Hars. He's one of the
Speaker 1: best to ever touch a pill. But it's just somebody
Speaker 1: winning that championship. It's just something about it. And listen
Speaker 1: to him as a competitor. He wants that championship, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I'm not here to knock it.
Speaker 1: Like even as a DJ, thats well accomplished. Oh you
Speaker 1: know I've been nominated for a b T Award and
Speaker 1: all the other stuff I didn't. I didn't I didn't
Speaker 1: bring home the gold. It was an honor to be
Speaker 1: in that In that conversation. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't lose sleep about it, but it would have
Speaker 1: been nice. Yeah, does know what I'm saying. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: goes back on what I'm saying, is it goes back
Speaker 1: that we play, we play to be We play to
Speaker 1: be number one. So in order to have a number
Speaker 1: one record at radio, you gotta be on radio.
Speaker 3: You know what you just said?
Speaker 2: Something man, I think, honestly, the most important person, the
Speaker 2: most important piece when it comes to hip hop and
Speaker 2: specific the dj M. I would say, you know when
Speaker 2: it started off that way, You remember it used to
Speaker 2: be Jazzy Jeff from the Fresh Prince right, that's the
Speaker 2: Flesh and the Furious Five are being right, kim right,
Speaker 2: I would be eventually to say, Man, amigos is hard.
Speaker 2: I've been a fan of them kids, man, ever since
Speaker 2: I first heard them. I thought they were so different
Speaker 2: and so unique. It was almost like hearing bone for
Speaker 2: the first time. You know, they were so unique. They
Speaker 2: had their whole thing, the way they just you know,
Speaker 2: they pattern they stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm menta all that right.
Speaker 1: And I heard them here a mixtape a few.
Speaker 2: I would say, you know my son was banging my son,
Speaker 2: you know he was in I think he might have
Speaker 2: been at junior high. Then you know he college grass
Speaker 2: But now right, play the NFL and all that stuff, right,
Speaker 2: I heard that, you know, the hood rich You feel
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, And that's what made me a fan.
Speaker 2: Do you think the DJ gets slept on nowadays? And
Speaker 2: this time we ain't?
Speaker 1: Right? Now? What being man? You know, technology changes a lot.
Speaker 1: I use the analogy of like sometimes you don't see
Speaker 1: it coming. Like imagine you own ten block busted videos
Speaker 1: and you banking and every Friday people pulling up getting DVDs, popcorn,
Speaker 1: color sprites and all this other stuff. And you banging
Speaker 1: in your pocket the bank, the bank is banging, and
Speaker 1: then you wake up one Friday morning and then you
Speaker 1: get a call like yo, yo yo, yeah problem bro,
Speaker 1: what's what's the problem. What's the problem? Staying called Netflix?
Speaker 1: It's Netflix, boy, they're doing three for five. They do
Speaker 1: it for five or you ain't even got to go
Speaker 1: to the Blockbusters. They drop it off at your house
Speaker 1: and you can keep it thirty days, no late fees.
Speaker 1: Better yet, next month, I hear you're gonna be able
Speaker 1: to log in the app and watch all the movies
Speaker 1: you want.
Speaker 3: I remember that.
Speaker 1: You understand the I'm saying so for me. I always
Speaker 1: when we was in the streets knee deep shots to
Speaker 1: my brother Rip, and we had CDs everywhere that you
Speaker 1: can name, gas stations, barbershops, flea markets, we had CDs everywhere.
Speaker 1: We were able to say, man, at some point, this
Speaker 1: underworld of mixtapes, it's gonna hit the internet hard, right
Speaker 1: that we were able to transform into you know, your
Speaker 1: live mixtapes and everything, and having our CDs online as
Speaker 1: well as on the streets. That was kind of our
Speaker 1: peak because we flooded the internet and we flooded the
Speaker 1: streets right. Well, at a particular point thanks to technology
Speaker 1: streaming Apple music, Apple music is to Netflix, Apple music
Speaker 1: is Netflix, and the DJs and now whole mixtape culture
Speaker 1: is Blockbuster, you know what I'm saying. So now it's
Speaker 1: kind of like they're like, you ain't got no exclusives.
Speaker 1: I can't have no exclusives the Internet. I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't keep up with the internet. Different even if our
Speaker 1: premiere an exclusive, three minutes later somebody done ripped it.
Speaker 1: It is not.
Speaker 2: Exclusive, no more exactly, and they may get more downloads
Speaker 2: than you getting used the regional source.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. So I embrace technology, man,
Speaker 1: I don't run from it because I don't want to
Speaker 1: ever be a dinosaur.
Speaker 2: And I always want to be You for sure have
Speaker 2: to embrace technology. I was one of the first people
Speaker 2: in the West Coast actually doing podcasts.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: When I say podcast.
Speaker 2: Audio formutes, you know all you I remember some people
Speaker 2: telling me, man, ain't nobody gonna listen to that?
Speaker 3: And the wound up becoming the biggest thing ever.
Speaker 2: Right now, you got the video component to it, right,
Speaker 2: And I always try to make it my business to
Speaker 2: stay on top of the technology. Like we were talking
Speaker 2: about the one thing we were talking about off air,
Speaker 2: which means you get into further you know, off air,
Speaker 2: but you always have to see what's kind of coming
Speaker 2: up next. And I think that's what the DJ does
Speaker 2: and the DJs, I know, is y'all kind of set
Speaker 2: the trends.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I was looking at Cyprus here was Tiny Desk, right,
Speaker 2: and they were saying that they almost didn't have a career.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: They album was kind of tanking when it first came
Speaker 2: out because the singles that they picked just wasn't working.
Speaker 1: And I think they said that the DJ had picked them.
Speaker 2: And just kill a Man was the Muns Monks, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know that's one of the DJ's, right, they DJ,
Speaker 2: but a DJ in New York just started playing and
Speaker 2: then it kind of cat from there. So just imagine
Speaker 2: the world without no sight. I perceive it has just
Speaker 2: been another rap group that got dropped.
Speaker 1: Right Yeah, yeah, listen, I'm not saying this because I'm
Speaker 1: a DJ. If we implement it, more of the DJ
Speaker 1: back into the culture. Not saying we're in a bad place.
Speaker 1: I just think we'll be in a better place because
Speaker 1: I actually argue with artists about final playlist for mixtapes.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like argue, Like now I'm
Speaker 1: telling you that ain't it. I'm in the club that
Speaker 1: ain't it? Bro, put that on your album.
Speaker 2: Percent right, That's what I'm saying. And you know, shout
Speaker 2: out to my homeboy, DJ Head. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you know Head.
Speaker 1: You know brother.
Speaker 2: Here, don't pick a couple of big records that people
Speaker 2: was kind of.
Speaker 1: Like wanting to lose one way on.
Speaker 2: I ain't about to putting nobody's business out there, but
Speaker 2: he was like, nah, brother, and I would have I
Speaker 2: would get some of the homies cause it's funny because
Speaker 2: they know he is like my little brother. So I
Speaker 2: get the phone calls, right man. You know, artists are
Speaker 2: very very emotional when it comes to their music. Man,
Speaker 2: if he had, you know, the first thing they want
Speaker 2: to do is call you ater is you tell them
Speaker 2: them the truth?
Speaker 1: M M.
Speaker 2: You know, head Man, that single you got right there
Speaker 2: is trash man, But if you pick this one, it's
Speaker 2: one gonna change your life. And yeah, when they listen
Speaker 2: is great. When they don't want to listen as bad man,
Speaker 2: And I really implore all if I was still doing music, man,
Speaker 2: they had a label up DJs would be my n rs.
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's the way, that's the way it's that's
Speaker 1: the way it should be. I think that uh technology
Speaker 1: just made it to where people felt like, I don't
Speaker 1: need a lot of what makes a record great. Honestly,
Speaker 1: what makes a record great is taste makers champion in
Speaker 1: the record makes a record great. It's an engineer mixing
Speaker 1: their record to perfection. It makes a record great. It's
Speaker 1: the graphic designer create artwork for that record makes the
Speaker 1: record great. It's how the videographer shoots that video and
Speaker 1: paints the picture of the audio you do I said
Speaker 1: what I'm saying like these there's a lot of ship
Speaker 1: that makes a record great. You can have a record
Speaker 1: and it can be a hit. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you can't just do that on your own.
Speaker 1: But another aspect of that record being great is the producer,
Speaker 1: if they produce the record. There's a lot that makes
Speaker 1: a record great. Again, using this because it's the best
Speaker 1: case scenario for this year, I think we can argue
Speaker 1: and debate, not much of an argue with debate. The
Speaker 1: song of the year is Kendrick Lamar not like us, right,
Speaker 1: I think me. You know, so you got Kendrick, then
Speaker 1: you got Mustard DJ on the beat, all right. Of
Speaker 1: course you got the fans, and of course there was
Speaker 1: the controversy and everything that put eyes and everything on it.
Speaker 1: But I'm sure to some extent you bring up DJ Head,
Speaker 1: So sure DJ Head had a little bit of a
Speaker 1: head nod or maybe I'm just using my imagination. There's
Speaker 1: nothing definitive, but I think Head might have had privilege
Speaker 1: to putting his ears on it a little early, right,
Speaker 1: And this was the team that said, okay, now that
Speaker 1: we're clear, it's been mixed, it's been this. Who knows
Speaker 1: if Doctor Dre heard this record. We don't know, right,
Speaker 1: Doctor Dre again a DJ right now, we can put
Speaker 1: this out. And when I tell you, some of the
Speaker 1: biggest records in Atlanta went through a filtration process a
Speaker 1: lot of times my ears included before they came out,
Speaker 1: and some of those records still play to this day.
Speaker 1: Knock if you Buck, Swag, surfing records that will never
Speaker 1: go away, D Manny Fresh Djack that ass. This is
Speaker 1: a forever record. So when I tell people and when
Speaker 1: I try to like give game to the young ones,
Speaker 1: I'm like It's okay to play the game for now.
Speaker 1: For sure, you should play for now, But I don't,
Speaker 1: and I'm a little bit maybe tainted in this. When
Speaker 1: I play, man, I play forever. I want big facts
Speaker 1: to matter forever. I want big facts thirty years from now.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. The mixtapes I made in
Speaker 1: two thousand and five not because I'm full of myself
Speaker 1: and not because I'm arrogance, and that's not me. The
Speaker 1: mixtapes I made in two thousand and five with niggas
Speaker 1: people still play today twenty years later. That's what hip
Speaker 1: hop is to me. I was just listening to run DMC,
Speaker 1: listen to some ol cool J to get me ready
Speaker 1: for this new project. Are you making pyramids or exactly?
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna tell you the one.
Speaker 2: The people who not, who don't have a DJ in
Speaker 2: they camp, they're making dirt piles. That's why you see
Speaker 2: so many And this is not a dish to the
Speaker 2: young cats, right. I love some of the music that
Speaker 2: these young cats making crazy. Young's going crazy, going crazy
Speaker 2: with it right now, but they don't have that They
Speaker 2: make one record in their bedroom right because of the technology, right,
Speaker 2: they don't have to pay for studio time like we did.
Speaker 2: You know, we used to set to try to scrape
Speaker 2: up forty fifty bucks an hour to go to a
Speaker 2: small studio. Right now they just go their bed more
Speaker 2: on their phone, you know, shot off to the little
Speaker 2: only three one old baby. He made a platinum record
Speaker 2: on his iPhone, right, the rocks Man. Right, we didn't
Speaker 2: have that back then. But what's happening now is it
Speaker 2: would be great if he consulted with a DJ okog
Speaker 2: wish it my next record? Beyond established this sound? How
Speaker 2: can I keep this trend going? That's why you see
Speaker 2: a lot of cats right now. And I called the
Speaker 2: TikTok phase right the where records are go platinum go
Speaker 2: because of TikTok and they be big and you don't
Speaker 2: even know who these artists are half the time, you
Speaker 2: just know it's a big record, right.
Speaker 1: I think they need to enlist the services of the DJ. Well.
Speaker 1: I do some consulting, and often often we get to
Speaker 1: the point where I say, if you're gonna build a
Speaker 1: team and be an artist, you need to start in
Speaker 1: five right, So you need yourself, you need a lawyer,
Speaker 1: you need the engineer, you need a DJ sometimes DJ, engineer,
Speaker 1: producer that can serve you know, you know, back and forth,
Speaker 1: and you need that guy. You might call the guy
Speaker 1: your manager, your hot whatever, but that guy that will
Speaker 1: do the dirty work, the guy don't have no Hey
Speaker 1: you need to book my artist, Hey, you need to
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. The guy that's dedicated
Speaker 1: to the cause. If you have those five people and
Speaker 1: you have a good product, you will progress. How far
Speaker 1: are you progressed, that's all up to you know, with
Speaker 1: the fate of your career, whatever, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1: But you have to have a team. You have to
Speaker 1: have a team. I've never seen it done without a team.
Speaker 1: If you look at the people at the top of
Speaker 1: the top of the top of the top, they might
Speaker 1: not have this big, oversaturated team of a bunch of
Speaker 1: people that will do nothing, but they got a team.
Speaker 1: That's believe. Jay Z's always had a team. Oh for
Speaker 1: sure has a team. Kendrick has a team. These people
Speaker 1: have a team. Drake doesn't move without forty, right, whatever
Speaker 1: that may be. DJ sometimes DJ engineer, producer. It's a
Speaker 1: similar it's a similar cloth, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: but you need that person that's gonna tell you the truth.
Speaker 1: Hey man, that ain't it? Or you know what? I
Speaker 1: think you could do that verse better? Yet interesting enough.
Speaker 1: You talk about teams and you mentioned Kendrick Lamar. I've
Speaker 1: known Doc Man since he was maybe fifteen years old. Right.
Speaker 2: I was to my homeboy, Top Dog and Punch Punch
Speaker 2: was still one of my good friends. Talked to Punch
Speaker 2: every day, right, they was over and Carson, you know,
Speaker 2: had the studio in the back of the house, you
Speaker 2: know you And it's funny now, man, I always laugh.
Speaker 2: I always till the top when you make that movie, Man,
Speaker 2: Who're gonna get to play in my character? Because I
Speaker 2: was around them so much back then, right, And it
Speaker 2: was just dope because the more Top learned, the more
Speaker 2: they progressed. And I remember when Top first, you know,
Speaker 2: he was chasing the deal at first they got j
Speaker 2: Rock had a deal first, and actually Kendrick Kendrick had
Speaker 2: a demo deal with Death Jam jay Z signed Doc first.
Speaker 2: It was to a demo deal, right, he got a
Speaker 2: demo deal first. A lot of people don't know that,
Speaker 2: but Top, you know, he like everybody else from they
Speaker 2: first come in the game. He thought, oh, we need
Speaker 2: to go get a record deal, and that's gonna take everything.
Speaker 2: He said, No, he let them, being even more frustrated, right,
Speaker 2: because it was the best thing that ever happened to them.
Speaker 2: They forced them to learn how to make records, right,
Speaker 2: so that studio became kind of like a boot camp.
Speaker 2: My boy I Lei, who's one of the greatest engineers
Speaker 2: the game. Now, he got his chops up during that time,
Speaker 2: and they were the first ones really out here attacking
Speaker 2: those blogs, right, and their music just became so undeniable.
Speaker 2: Couldn't nobody sleep on use. A lot of people slept
Speaker 2: on tde at first. Bro, A lot of people did.
Speaker 2: Now they just you know, now they probably have. They
Speaker 2: gonna probably go down in history, man, right with the
Speaker 2: deaf Jams and all of them. Man, there's people that
Speaker 2: really just are part of the lexicond of hip hop
Speaker 2: m because they did. But it was all the team effort,
Speaker 2: and all of them dudes listened to top. They listened.
Speaker 2: They were young, and they was impression. But it was
Speaker 2: a good thing because he lived in the right way, right,
Speaker 2: And I think right now, man, I think that's what's missing.
Speaker 2: I think the technology, as much as good for the game,
Speaker 2: I think is kind of killing it because you're not
Speaker 2: getting it.
Speaker 1: You're getting a bunch of people's making records by themselves. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's different, man, It's always a gift in the curse.
Speaker 1: I would just say that if you look at the
Speaker 1: level that someone like Kanye West took it to whatever,
Speaker 1: we can name so many different people, right me personally
Speaker 1: as a DJ. What made me stronger as a DJ
Speaker 1: and as an overall person that was a part of
Speaker 1: music culture. I went back and study. I could go
Speaker 1: back and talk to you about music from the sixties
Speaker 1: and the seventies and I wasn't even born, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I went back and study, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to understand where did this come from, why did
Speaker 1: this happened, what made it successful? Da da Okay, before
Speaker 1: I was even blessed enough to meet a kid capre
Speaker 1: in person or whatever the case is. When I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: I'm a baby when these people was doing their thing.
Speaker 1: But I studied them to the point where by the
Speaker 1: time I met them, like, y'all want you to take
Speaker 1: this wrong way, but I studied you. You understand I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I understand you know the dynamics behind this mixtape and
Speaker 1: why this mixtape was important? And why did I studied
Speaker 1: the game. I'm a student of the game. I think
Speaker 1: the biggest thing is that we can have the technology,
Speaker 1: but we don't have a graduating process. We just raw talent.
Speaker 1: It's just a lot of niggas out there hooping and
Speaker 1: they don't They can hoop like a motherfucker, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But there's no so when you're asking
Speaker 1: them questions like, you know, what's your purpose behind this,
Speaker 1: what's your goals where you're trying to take it, how
Speaker 1: you're going to elevate, what's your next album gonna be on?
Speaker 1: What what does ten years look like for you? They
Speaker 1: ain't thought past ninety eight for real, So if your
Speaker 1: minds if your mind, I've always envisioned being old and gray,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I've always envisioned in my
Speaker 1: head one day. I didn't even figure out how I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do something else or have options because I probably
Speaker 1: don't want to be seventy years old in a club DJ.
Speaker 1: I still would love to DJ to some respect, But
Speaker 1: that's kind of what opened me up for media. We
Speaker 1: could sit down and do this at any age. Yes, real,
Speaker 1: Instead what I'm saying. So when you look at a COOLJ,
Speaker 1: a Ludicris, an ice team who became actual movie stars
Speaker 1: TV stars, they had to envision a step ahead of
Speaker 1: Hey man, I probably rap forever. I love the same thing,
Speaker 1: ice Cube, all these people. I'll probably rap forever because
Speaker 1: I love it in my heart. This is my love.
Speaker 1: But boy, this that young boy sport. So you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to You can't strict Oh cool J can have
Speaker 1: I'm sure this album is dynamic. I still there and
Speaker 1: check it out myself. It's unfair to try to get
Speaker 1: him to stream like a nineteen year old kid. It's
Speaker 1: not fair. But at the same time, Yo, I'm getting
Speaker 1: this TV money. You know what I'm saying. I'm on TV,
Speaker 1: like real television, like NBC. I'm on TV. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So we have to we have to.
Speaker 1: We have to kind of we always have the og
Speaker 1: and the young young headed conversation and you know, the disconnection,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like we gotta we gotta share
Speaker 1: that game. Man. I listen, a lot of my game
Speaker 1: come from young niggas. When you when the young niggas talk,
Speaker 1: I listen.
Speaker 2: Oh, you have to bro, you have to You can't
Speaker 2: look at them as your competition. You have to look
Speaker 2: at them and say, okay, let me see what they
Speaker 2: got going on. You for sure, buddy, check them out
Speaker 2: of you be lost in the sauce out here.
Speaker 1: I listen. I might not get with you know, the
Speaker 1: fashion part of it, but you know that you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I listened, and then I'll be quiet
Speaker 1: and I wait till they say what you think? Oh gee,
Speaker 1: oh well, I think you know what I'm saying. From
Speaker 1: my perspective, this is how you can tie you in
Speaker 1: that shit out Cool. Now, we just gave each other game,
Speaker 1: no hate, just love you helping me understand. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you man, like young niggas, man, they don't want
Speaker 1: to know't they don't want to do all that. They
Speaker 1: just want to go SoundCloud here it real quick. I'm
Speaker 1: just telling you they don't want to do all that
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. Man. Let me tell you, brother,
Speaker 1: I ain't never watched the podcast. I don't watch the
Speaker 1: whole thing. I watched the shorts. Okay, cool, the young
Speaker 1: people watch shorts. You know what I'm saying. So you
Speaker 1: got to just take that game in from the young people, man,
Speaker 1: and that's the beauty of hip hop. I felt like
Speaker 1: it's always been. Man. One of one of my proud
Speaker 1: hip hop moments was Nas and cool Gie Rap because
Speaker 1: I started to understand hip hop around when Coolie Rap
Speaker 1: was at his and for Nis to be at his
Speaker 1: peak some years later, or not peak, but popping, you know,
Speaker 1: some years later, if it had to come together and
Speaker 1: do that Fast Life record, that's what it's about to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's about DJ Scream doing a mixtape with the new
Speaker 1: hot young thing. That's what it's about. M to me.
Speaker 1: You know, speaking to them DJ Scream mixtapes? What artists?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 3: What artists?
Speaker 1: Did you just know from the Rip from you first
Speaker 1: hearing them that they was gonna blow up? And there's
Speaker 1: a lot going on. Lie, Like I always say, shout
Speaker 1: to my brother Rip again, like we we went through
Speaker 1: this movement together. You know what I'm saying. The hood
Speaker 1: rich and all of the homie, salute to all of them.
Speaker 1: But all there was a day I remember Rest of Soul,
Speaker 1: Young Dolphin, when I met him, I may him at
Speaker 1: a Marriott Park a lot. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Cast me out gave me the music. We chopped it up.
Speaker 1: We just met. Said I'm going to get features. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm sending you a few more records.
Speaker 1: I'm going to fuck with two chains this person Da
Speaker 1: da da dah. And when I got in a car,
Speaker 1: I remember putting the CD in because I always I
Speaker 1: would have to ride to your music for at least
Speaker 1: it's like a week before I could do your mixtape
Speaker 1: to fill it, you know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 1: sometimes I would ride and just kind of listen and
Speaker 1: have selective hearing and all that stuff. I remember, namely
Speaker 1: being on the phone with some of the homies and
Speaker 1: I was like, hold on, bro, and I call you back.
Speaker 1: You good, nah man, I'm listening to this nigga named Dawt,
Speaker 1: this nigga hard hang on the phone. I remember. I
Speaker 1: remember taking a long way to the crib so I
Speaker 1: could finish listening. That's how I was. That was welcome
Speaker 1: to Dolph world. And it was just that feeling that
Speaker 1: I chased. Man. That's the feeling I had with Shaddy Low.
Speaker 1: That's the feeling I had, you know, definitely salute Rip
Speaker 1: he called future. That's the feeling I had listening to
Speaker 1: fut for the first time, so many people. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you know, in a in a unique way.
Speaker 1: It's a feeling that I had. It was a different
Speaker 1: type of feeling. But I had Soldier Boys music early too.
Speaker 1: I did this first mixtape and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: this is dancy, and I'm not a dancy person, but
Speaker 1: I know a hit when I hear it. And the
Speaker 1: thing is, this man got ten hits. So I've been
Speaker 1: blessed to man, I've been blessed to hear a lot
Speaker 1: of the same thing. With Migos. We know the story.
Speaker 1: We told the story on video of how they brought
Speaker 1: me the first mixtape. Everybody knows. Scream them in the
Speaker 1: studio like this, that's just me stiff, take this shiit serious?
Speaker 1: What you think? I'm like sor right, So they're looking
Speaker 1: at me. I hate nigga. We the Migos like, but
Speaker 1: off Set always tells a story like man, we went
Speaker 1: back and that made us go harder. Like next time
Speaker 1: we got up in that studio they play that music.
Speaker 1: I couldn't even do nothing but smile. I couldn't even
Speaker 1: have no me mother. I'm like boy, y'all got it.
Speaker 1: That's what hip hop is, man. It's about pushing your
Speaker 1: brothers and your sisters to be the best they can
Speaker 1: be and understanding that the art that you're putting out,
Speaker 1: the art that you're putting out potentially could be here
Speaker 1: one hundred and hundreds of years from now. Yeah, you broke.
Speaker 1: Nobody thinks about that. That's why I go so hard
Speaker 1: every day because I don't know what I'm not feelna
Speaker 1: bullshit this interview. We'll know what this interview. You don't
Speaker 1: know what this this, this could be the biggest ever.
Speaker 1: Is always when you think it ain't gonna be nothing,
Speaker 1: that ended up being.
Speaker 2: You think all the time, and when you think it's
Speaker 2: gonna be something, you'd be like damn it, then blow
Speaker 2: up like I thought it was right.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I can't listen. I I I lace
Speaker 1: my close up every day, right to play ball every day,
Speaker 1: every situation. I give it, I give it everything. I got.
Speaker 2: You sure, butter, Now, let me ask you this is
Speaker 2: that almost wasn't fair because Atlanta had a lot of
Speaker 2: people blow up who didn't crack that you thought, for sure,
Speaker 2: go blow up.
Speaker 1: Have you had one of those instances when yeah, I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of projects where I would have said,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you use a terminology, didn't didn't
Speaker 1: crack all like, reaches full potential, like we were talking
Speaker 1: about somebody who who had Atlanta on Fire or I
Speaker 1: felt like we had a classic mixtape and who I
Speaker 1: felt like, to this date should be bigger and hopefully
Speaker 1: will continue to grow. He's still making music. Uh, Young
Speaker 1: Rob the jill Man. You know what I'm saying. That
Speaker 1: was one of those special ones recipes. My brother a
Speaker 1: Little Hot, you know what I'm saying. A Little Hot
Speaker 1: had the city on fire. That was a memorable project.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's tough normal because you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: not even capping as a thousand plus mixtapes, so it
Speaker 1: gets blurry to me, you know what I'm saying. Uh,
Speaker 1: But those those are those are those are a few
Speaker 1: projects that a couple of projects that also Atlanta's ship.
Speaker 1: I just felt like, you know, ah, you know, a
Speaker 1: little Hot, you know obviously you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The rest of his soul is uh, he lost his
Speaker 1: he passed away, and then Young Ralph he tells his
Speaker 1: own story on Big Facts. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: of kind of the things that he went through and
Speaker 1: the ups and downs and all this other type of stuff.
Speaker 1: So you know, those are brothers are still like you know,
Speaker 1: you see, and they still doing their thing for sure.
Speaker 1: But that's just a couple of names of people that
Speaker 1: I had that same feeling when I first heard their music,
Speaker 1: like chills through my body and everything. But you know,
Speaker 1: everybody's journey is different, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't say. I wouldn't say they didn't
Speaker 1: crack out and say they might not get to reach
Speaker 1: their full potential. But you know, those are a couple
Speaker 1: of names I always shout out when I think about,
Speaker 1: you know, the mixtape legacy.
Speaker 3: You know, you know who always wondered about man and
Speaker 3: I know he went to jail.
Speaker 1: Is what was his name? He's a producer, Shorty Red.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Shorty Red. He was already as helld with me man,
Speaker 2: and then I started hearing him and jeez, he had beef, yeah,
Speaker 2: because he did something with Gucci Man, I guess, and
Speaker 2: it was it was just crazy.
Speaker 1: I thought.
Speaker 2: I thought, if Shorty Red didn't go to jail, though,
Speaker 2: he could have possibly have been the biggest producer in
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 1: Got a catalog, man, he got a real catalog. That
Speaker 1: everybody ship. It's crazy. When the versus stuff was going on,
Speaker 1: I was always screaming, like, they need they need to
Speaker 1: put Shot Red up in there with somebody like you know,
Speaker 1: you get hip hop amnesia quick with a lot of names. Now,
Speaker 1: who would you say, like, like, who would you compare
Speaker 1: Shorty Red to? Like who can match up with him? Really?
Speaker 3: You probably get like a many fresh as somebody.
Speaker 1: I personally would do shoddy Red. Metro booming that your
Speaker 1: they have a distinct. They have a distinct either way,
Speaker 1: they have some This sound is very distinct. When I
Speaker 1: hear Metro booming beats, I'm like, man, Metro, you know,
Speaker 1: for me, Metro when he was young, you just know
Speaker 1: he's just there's something powerful about his gift. Ah. But
Speaker 1: they both like Metro is too Future, even though Future
Speaker 1: has done some amazing music with DJ Spins south Side.
Speaker 1: There's so many other people we can name, right, mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: But it's something about that future of Metro, right, it's
Speaker 1: just something abouty Oh. I don't know where they left off.
Speaker 1: I don't know any of the personal side of it.
Speaker 1: There's something about shotty Red and Jeezy Jesus. Jesus made
Speaker 1: some dope music of late, but the something about shotty
Speaker 1: Red and Jeezy this is something like tuping t I.
Speaker 1: To me, that was like and Snoop.
Speaker 2: It's like when you had about it, it was crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could listen Snoop and go do music with
Speaker 1: for real and it's dope. But it ain't snooping. Dread
Speaker 1: Dre is just this. There's just certain, there's this certain
Speaker 1: synergies and certain like Zaytoven, Gucci Man. Mm hmm, listen, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Druma Boy, Gucci Man, drummer Boy.
Speaker 1: It's just certain. It's certain kickoffs, certain certain certain chemistries
Speaker 1: that you just can't explain. It's almost like a spiritual
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like it's like when them
Speaker 1: two brothers getting them on together. It's different.
Speaker 3: They just in pocket, man. And that's the thing.
Speaker 2: When you get those special combinations like that, to me,
Speaker 2: you need to let that run go on as long
Speaker 2: as it can have a little bullshit don't happen man
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 1: You gotta let that go and want you want to
Speaker 1: spread your wings man, if you're an artist, year you
Speaker 1: want to you want to do music with other other people.
Speaker 1: I can imagine when we look at the hip hop
Speaker 1: legacies of Pete Rock and see a small gangstar, you know,
Speaker 1: I can imagine that, Imagine what goes into creating the
Speaker 1: art and the music, and imagine how much time you're
Speaker 1: spending with each other. It's a music like it's a
Speaker 1: it's a it's a relationships like a business, a partnership,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So anytime that happens, regardless
Speaker 1: of what you're doing. It could be music, it could
Speaker 1: be media, it could be sports whatever. You know, as men,
Speaker 1: you know, with egos, we all have egos as men.
Speaker 1: You know, stuff can happen. But if you can for
Speaker 1: the sake of the fans, I agree some of them names. Man,
Speaker 1: it's just something about when certain people link up so Dumn,
Speaker 1: it's special. It's special, and it's really hard to recreate
Speaker 1: the moment sometimes, Man, it's almost impossible. Sometimes.
Speaker 3: You know what I was gonna ask you, man, were
Speaker 3: talking about the South Right.
Speaker 2: As far as producers down there, you know, Many Fresh
Speaker 2: is probably my favorite producer from down there.
Speaker 1: Dope, dope favorite producer man again a DJ because and
Speaker 1: you know, I wish I had the homie glasses on
Speaker 1: here because he was telling me, you know, when he
Speaker 1: first got to work with him, My man, he's processed.
Speaker 1: He is he going there?
Speaker 2: May he make the record? He said, it's like a party. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's having a party. And his drums just you know,
Speaker 2: he start everything out with the drums. Hecause he make
Speaker 2: everything fresh and he could be hooked and everything like that.
Speaker 2: When you say that, Manny's probably when you say that
Speaker 2: Manny Fresh is probably radised. Producers come out the South.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm from Atlanta, now I know maybe Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. But the South though, we talk
Speaker 2: about the whole South.
Speaker 1: Man all up. It is hard. Yeah, it is hard
Speaker 1: to match what many Fresh did with cash money mm hmm,
Speaker 1: those timeless records. Oh it's but it's also hard for
Speaker 1: me to even if we talk about New Orleans sound,
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to not at least acknowledge you know,
Speaker 1: beats by the pound. Ye, no limit knowledge. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It's hard for me to not acknowledge
Speaker 1: DJ Paul and Juicy J. No, this is my they
Speaker 1: some monsters, but from a production aspect, what they've done
Speaker 1: and how it's been recreated and re sampled so much,
Speaker 1: it's just hard for me not to acknowledge them from
Speaker 1: a production standpoint.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of tripping.
Speaker 2: I forgot about and I said that before that Paul
Speaker 2: and Juicy probably was the title because they sound has
Speaker 2: been emulated so much.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I think Juicy J said that he was clearing the
Speaker 3: record every day.
Speaker 1: Hey man, listen, it's hard not to acknowledge that. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have all the names of the Florida legends
Speaker 1: that did, like you know, the Miami Bass music and everything,
Speaker 1: J Mix, DJ mister Mix, DJ mister Mix. You know.
Speaker 2: Actually I think toomth early On got some games, mister Mix.
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, this is a good friend of mine,
Speaker 2: So you got too. Can't forget about Too, who still
Speaker 2: got some amazing music.
Speaker 1: Man, I don't forget about Tom in no way I
Speaker 1: could sit here and recipes Freco Wade not acknowledged with
Speaker 1: organized did I have to acknowledge it? So I'm not
Speaker 1: debating is that question. I'm just saying I have to
Speaker 1: acknowledge some of these people that created well, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know if you can't say it's the greatest man
Speaker 2: because all of them is so created. What they do, man,
Speaker 2: all pocket they bring their own originality to it.
Speaker 1: You know. See it's it's it's on the West Coast.
Speaker 1: The philosophy is that it's pretty cut and dry. That
Speaker 1: is dre right, That's that's the philosophy that we that's
Speaker 1: what we get. But I do know that there's a
Speaker 1: lot of greats out there from the Bay right then
Speaker 1: some some some timeless music. I do know a brother
Speaker 1: absolute and I was a massive fan of still a
Speaker 1: fan Warren G. You know, is the business you dig
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, these are people, man. A lot
Speaker 1: of times I think people don't you know quick well
Speaker 1: quick accomplished. Oh DJ like listen, but but but for
Speaker 1: the sake of for the sake of barbershop talk, A
Speaker 1: lot of people on the West Coast would probably say, Drake,
Speaker 1: I don't you know the South carries someone's territory. We
Speaker 1: just named all these people, but we didn't even get
Speaker 1: to Texas and.
Speaker 3: They all that.
Speaker 2: And you know who we didn't name either, I think
Speaker 2: is he's done so much R and B. Jermaine Duprix
Speaker 2: is a bad name, Jermaine Duprix is the name you
Speaker 2: have to salute and respect.
Speaker 1: L A. Reid, You know what I'm saying, You have
Speaker 1: to respect that. And then the South, to be honest, encompasses.
Speaker 1: To be honest, it encompasses for real. And Timblin they
Speaker 1: from Virginia, the South from South. So that's why I said,
Speaker 1: I can't listen, mad he's a monster on the turntables,
Speaker 1: on the production.
Speaker 2: And what he's done.
Speaker 1: He's a monster. Uh but Yo, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: great producers below this, Mason Dixie.
Speaker 2: Bro Well that's why I say, Man, the South, the
Speaker 2: South got one of those runs, man to where to
Speaker 2: never end, because like you said, it literally goes from
Speaker 2: east to west right, you know, you got kind of
Speaker 2: ends at Texas right and goes back down to the
Speaker 2: bottom of Miami up.
Speaker 3: To Va and all the other stuff.
Speaker 2: Man, it's just so like the influences on parallel because
Speaker 2: it got so many different pockets. Like you got to remember,
Speaker 2: New Orleans got their own little bounce, right, Atlanta got
Speaker 2: his own bounce. You got Memphis that kind of got
Speaker 2: his own little bop to it. We got Miami too,
Speaker 2: and I remember it was a time man that the
Speaker 2: bass music was real big.
Speaker 3: And at l too.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. I mean, you know, influenced by Florida, but
Speaker 1: there's so many greats and so many names we can
Speaker 1: and those those those records were in fuse with R
Speaker 1: and B to create a whole new genre of like
Speaker 1: R and B in fuse with with with bass music
Speaker 1: and Atlanta music. So man, the history and the legacy
Speaker 1: is rich, man, it's it's it's just here in Atlanta alone,
Speaker 1: not even just speaking of the South. The history and
Speaker 1: the legacy of the music and the production, it's just
Speaker 1: so rich. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Real, No, I'm gonna flip it over a little bit
Speaker 2: to the podcast to the podcast game. Now, you just
Speaker 2: you didn't come up with big facts by yourself.
Speaker 1: Me and Big Bank shots to my brother Bank J
Speaker 1: jumped on. J jumped on after after our first season,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But yeah, we were just
Speaker 1: chopping it. Man. He'd already did this massively huge interview
Speaker 1: with Future, who you know, doesn't do a lot of
Speaker 1: interviews with people, and they got to talking, oh and
Speaker 1: had had a big interview. And then when I actually
Speaker 1: linked up with Bank, I'm like, man, I'm honest, I
Speaker 1: was interviewing him for my radio show. I was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, honest, man, yo, you gotta you gotta do it, man,
Speaker 1: because it was so raw, it was so unfiltered. IM like,
Speaker 1: immedia needs you, like, you gotta do it. So his
Speaker 1: thing was, and he knows me, and I've known him
Speaker 1: a very long time. He was like, shit, everybody talking
Speaker 1: about they gonna help me do it, but ain't nobody
Speaker 1: help me do it. So shit, you help me do it,
Speaker 1: We'll do it. So I was like, now, don't play
Speaker 1: me with a good time. I think we were recording
Speaker 1: probably eight days later. I went and bought banners and
Speaker 1: lights and got the crew together to record it. And
Speaker 1: he walked in and he was like, oh, oh shit
Speaker 1: you oh you for real? Year was this? This is nineteen.
Speaker 1: We'll be the fifth. The five year birthday of Big
Speaker 1: Facts will be this December.
Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy, y'all started off around the same
Speaker 2: time Gangs the Chronicles did. I remember, yeah, start off
Speaker 2: around the same time Games.
Speaker 3: The Chronicles did.
Speaker 2: And the business just don't change so much because I
Speaker 2: don't think none of us knew what this was gonna be.
Speaker 1: And I like, and I man, I love I love
Speaker 1: the pure innocence of when I was making Mixed Tastes.
Speaker 1: I ain't know the hell I was doing people talk
Speaker 1: about and I wish I would have knew better about business,
Speaker 1: but I ain't got no publishing on the Mixed Taste Listen, man,
Speaker 1: I'm hustling. But that's what this podcasting was. It was like, man,
Speaker 1: we just kicking shit. Bank was like I could smoke.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, we want you to smoke and curse, bruh,
Speaker 1: do whatever you want to do. I want you to
Speaker 1: be yourself. And that's that's that's the element. Even as
Speaker 1: we evolve and the sin and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: we have more fans and we've grown and we're grateful
Speaker 1: for that. We still try to keep that big, facts
Speaker 1: core feel of it. Hey man, we just in here
Speaker 1: just kicking it, kicking shit, talking about topics, giving our
Speaker 1: perspective on topics and everything like that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like that, that's that's what it really is.
Speaker 1: So I love it, man, It's raw. I love it.
Speaker 1: I think everybody deserves to have a voice. I know
Speaker 1: there's a lot of podcasts, hey man, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't discourage anybody from you know, speaking their mind and
Speaker 1: exercising their voice.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, one of the things that we
Speaker 2: will see. I think the video kind of brought a
Speaker 2: different element to it because you know, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of brothers, you know, doing their thing on YouTube different
Speaker 2: formats now. But I think one of the things that
Speaker 2: YouTube does do is don't nobody like getting those yellow
Speaker 2: dollar signs getting to monetized. I see a lot of
Speaker 2: people kind of like playing around like water and they showdown.
Speaker 2: And I think the next evolution, man of the podcast. Man,
Speaker 2: we already don't seen to, you know, go to video platform.
Speaker 2: I think the next thing is gonna beat the podcast
Speaker 2: as when these streaming platforms man.
Speaker 1: Well listen. I can only speak for myself. If I
Speaker 1: go to certain apps. There's a few, there's a few
Speaker 1: like Lessen, a handful of TV shows that I watch,
Speaker 1: all big sports fans, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: watch a lot of sports, namely football. But when I
Speaker 1: do have the time to sit down and be entertained,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch a podcast. It's not even it's not
Speaker 1: even close. If you look at my watch time, I'm
Speaker 1: watching podcast and I watched as well established podcasts. But
Speaker 1: I'm like digging for new podcasts, trying to find a young,
Speaker 1: hungry new podcast niggas. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a world where I think we did
Speaker 1: have to go through the hype of it for a second,
Speaker 1: the hype, Oh, you can make a hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: But when you when you when you step back from
Speaker 1: that and you pay it to into the pure hearted
Speaker 1: podcast community, which really what it is is just what
Speaker 1: we're doing right now is just having a conversation. By
Speaker 1: the time this conversation is over, you listen to it,
Speaker 1: you learn something, you know what I'm saying, You learn
Speaker 1: something about hip hop history, you got a little game,
Speaker 1: hopefully you're motivated, whatever the case is. Like, that's why
Speaker 1: it's just so important. Honestly, we all say, man, I
Speaker 1: think we all felt a little weird in the pandemic,
Speaker 1: and Bank was like, man, I ain't gonna lie, man,
Speaker 1: we need to do the podcast like my therapy. And
Speaker 1: that's when we jumped on zoom and kept it going
Speaker 1: on zoom for the people. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because it was like, man, it was deeper than just
Speaker 1: interviewing people like you said, we have conversations. So we
Speaker 1: have a conversation and it's like we might be talking
Speaker 1: about mental health or we might be talking about health,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it's therapy, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So being able to just talk to
Speaker 1: people and see their perspectives and know that they're going
Speaker 1: through the same thing that you're going through, and know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, a lot of times you agree to
Speaker 1: disagree or you agree or whatever the cases. It's therapeutic, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the dope part about it is, man,
Speaker 2: is dope to see brothers having those conversations about mental
Speaker 2: health for sure, for sure, because I think it was
Speaker 2: a time man, especially coming up in a hood to
Speaker 2: where you just didn't tell nobody you was dealing with
Speaker 2: some shit, right, and we didn't know what to call
Speaker 2: it back then. Like our knew brothers who now always
Speaker 2: say okay they had PTSD, we just thought they was
Speaker 2: just bugged out. You feel what I'm saying, Like, oh, man, crazy,
Speaker 2: We all had that crazy homeboy in the hood, right,
Speaker 2: but those cats was really going through some things. Now
Speaker 2: they got diagnosed for it. Man, I encourage all my
Speaker 2: homeboys Man, it ain't nothing. We just don't been through
Speaker 2: so much shit's black men. It ain't always about you know.
Speaker 2: Drama is just the stuff that we go through.
Speaker 1: Like, Man, I'll be real with you.
Speaker 2: It was so much going on at one time, man,
Speaker 2: to where I really felt like every time the police
Speaker 2: pulled me over, I was possibly to lose my life.
Speaker 3: Life seriously.
Speaker 2: I went through that for a minute, man, to where
Speaker 2: it was just like you bombarded with all this stuff
Speaker 2: that's going on.
Speaker 1: You get pulled over, right and you're thinking like, man,
Speaker 1: I got my hands from the team, the two how's
Speaker 1: this dude?
Speaker 3: How's he gonna be today? Is he gonna be in
Speaker 3: a good move today? Or is he gonna be in
Speaker 3: the because.
Speaker 2: You never know, have them get scared of us half
Speaker 2: time they pull us over, so we don't know what's
Speaker 2: go happen. So I went through that phase, man, I
Speaker 2: went through the phase man that just you know, you
Speaker 2: deal with death so much in our community, just wondering like.
Speaker 1: How am I gonna go out? I think those are
Speaker 1: real things that we just never be scared to talk about. Bro. Man,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's the truth. And I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: say you know, my fresh therapist is God in my prayer.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I taught to die about anything.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, likewise, but it's but it's
Speaker 1: but it's but it's it's valuable. Man, it's listen, I
Speaker 1: gotta I got a massive sneaker habit. If you see
Speaker 1: my sneaker collection, you're like, well, And what I said is, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take I'm gonna buy two or three less
Speaker 1: pair of sneakers a month so I can get this therapist.
Speaker 1: Because at first, I like, man, I ain't got no
Speaker 1: money for that. You know what I'm saying, Man, these sneakers,
Speaker 1: I love them. That's therapeutic for me too. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can I'll never wear all these sneakers. It ain't ever,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But if you have you done therapy yet?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 3: Have you had a therapy session yet?
Speaker 1: No, That's what I'm saying. I've been doing therapy for
Speaker 1: like three years.
Speaker 3: No for sure.
Speaker 1: Yes, I slowed down my sneaker habit and invested some
Speaker 1: of that money into a therapist. And listen, she's she's
Speaker 1: brought me from understanding I would tell her I have
Speaker 1: panic attacks, Like if I'm driving and the cops pull
Speaker 1: me over, I start having a panic attack. But it'll
Speaker 1: make me more panicky that I ain't got nothing going on,
Speaker 1: by the way, but I'm just in panic because I
Speaker 1: don't know what they own, like you say, bro, and
Speaker 1: I'll be going to be literally like I can hear
Speaker 1: a I can hear a siren right now, I'll jump them.
Speaker 2: And you know what the scary part about the Panica
Speaker 2: Taxi is is you think you have a heart attack
Speaker 2: of something.
Speaker 1: I've I've had whole breakdowns hospital like, I've been through
Speaker 1: all of that, and I didn't understand till I got
Speaker 1: in therapy shots the Big Energy, this exclusive info. We
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta spin off of Big Fast coming with
Speaker 1: one of the home girls, Big kaylor shots to her
Speaker 1: and it's based on progression and mental health. That should
Speaker 1: be dropping Q four. But I did not know that, listen.
Speaker 1: I stayed in the middle class. I stayed in the hood.
Speaker 1: I stuff heard gunshots. I've been through all of that.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand and never processing that and just being
Speaker 1: tough and just saying, man, whatever, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and never processing it and never talking about it. Then
Speaker 1: I'm holding it in and it's actually hurting me. You
Speaker 1: did what I'm saying Losabo's Green parents at nineteen years old.
Speaker 1: This is stuff that I never I was always a
Speaker 1: tough one. Mm you see what I'm saying, process stuff.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: The first time I had a panic attack, man, I
Speaker 2: was at one of my son's football games. It was
Speaker 2: his first game starting in the USC, right, and I
Speaker 2: just came from upstairs. You know, you're in the stadium. Man,
Speaker 2: I'm running back downstairs, you know, in case the kickoff, right,
Speaker 2: and I'm just sweating.
Speaker 1: And my heart is like my wife looked at me.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say nothing because I'm like skin,
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, am I having a heart attack right now?
Speaker 2: Point shout out to my boy Big Dennis. Man. Big
Speaker 2: Dennis actually man won him and another one at the homies.
Speaker 2: Man grabbed me and I wound up on USC side line. Man,
Speaker 2: the doctor you know, the team, and they took me ambulance.
Speaker 2: They didn't know what was going on. And this is
Speaker 2: you know, I was ashamed of talking about this stuff
Speaker 2: for the longest, right, But then I said, you know what, man,
Speaker 2: get being ashamed about some stuff. If I can help
Speaker 2: another brother out man to identify this stuff man and
Speaker 2: just come to find out. Man, I've been having panic
Speaker 2: attacks man, probably for the past five or six years.
Speaker 1: I just didn't know what they was they. Man, Listen,
Speaker 1: I have them my sleep everything. One of my biggest supporters,
Speaker 1: my brother man. You know, I just call them if
Speaker 1: I'm having a date. One biggest supporters is just the
Speaker 1: Fab you know. He openly said that he was going
Speaker 1: through anxiety and panic attacks and stuff like that when
Speaker 1: I was in a very very, very very when I
Speaker 1: couldn't shake that. So I had a point where I
Speaker 1: was having, like I said, breakdown. I was having three
Speaker 1: panic attacks a day. It just it just was wearing
Speaker 1: on me. But I'm still trying to be strong for everybody.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be the strong one and everything like this,
Speaker 1: and me and Fab would bill and He'll tell me, Bro,
Speaker 1: you got to get out of nature like that, nature
Speaker 1: will heal you. You got to get out there and
Speaker 1: just get the sun and grove dis effects, just get
Speaker 1: healed and just and then my therapist was just like
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm being honest. Until you learn how to
Speaker 1: truly let go you're gonna suffer. You gotta let go.
Speaker 1: You gotta just let go. You gotta be able to
Speaker 1: say fuck it. Fuck, fuck the DJ screen ship, fuck
Speaker 1: trying to do this, Fuck your payroll and the people.
Speaker 1: You gotta pa fuck it and focus on you. Bro.
Speaker 3: It's a lot. I don't think people understand.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I've been like I was in the Mixed game. Man,
Speaker 2: I bought my first house because of the Mixtape.
Speaker 3: Game, you know, due to it.
Speaker 2: Man, when we was able to you know, before the
Speaker 2: mother Cats got busted and doing what they was doing.
Speaker 2: You know, it was just a real crazy time, right
Speaker 2: because I was doing homie dads and them stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you know we was getting cod man,
Speaker 1: you know, yes, yeah, yeah, you know, so it was cracking.
Speaker 2: I remember I went through that phase, man, to wear
Speaker 2: that kind of dried up because I remember when that
Speaker 2: happened to Drama and them. Dog, I had to come
Speaker 2: to owe me like one hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 1: That was dog. Yeah, we all remember that day. I
Speaker 1: think we all lost a little change that day.
Speaker 2: And the whole thing about it is I just paid
Speaker 2: out on some stuff and I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm getting this wired at the end of the week.
Speaker 2: I'm going to pay them out now, right, so I
Speaker 2: don't pay money off man that I'm thinking coming back
Speaker 2: in the end of the week. And they're like, man,
Speaker 2: we can't get you know, ain't nothing happening. This hm
Speaker 2: V is a company, you know, the record chain over
Speaker 2: in England. Right, They wasn't playing out and a lot
Speaker 2: of my mixtapes was original music. They just couldn't get
Speaker 2: clear through the you know, they were stuff that people
Speaker 2: wouldn't go. They didn't make albums right, And so I'm
Speaker 2: dealing with these cats. They asked me, man, what's up
Speaker 2: with the bread? And I actually had to show them like, bro,
Speaker 2: I'm not getting paid. You know, it ain't like it
Speaker 2: ain't there. And I really went through this transition. I
Speaker 2: just got my first A and R job at that time,
Speaker 2: so I wasn't really tripping, but I was. I was like, damn,
Speaker 2: I just lost the grip of money. I would like
Speaker 2: to had that income going. But that showed me something
Speaker 2: I learned a valuable lesson during that time, bro, is
Speaker 2: that you can't take nothing for granted.
Speaker 1: You can't tell you yet. Man, Let's go back to
Speaker 1: what I was saying earlier about lacing up them cleats
Speaker 1: every day being grateful. You're not knowing because that was
Speaker 1: the pivot, you know what I'm saying. When when the
Speaker 1: whole mixtape raid went down, it was like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: you know we're highly dependent upon this, Like this is
Speaker 1: what we depend on, you know what I mean? And now, honestly,
Speaker 1: before like covid hit, I already put myself in the
Speaker 1: mindset of I never want to depend on one thing
Speaker 1: too much, my livelihood. You can't.
Speaker 2: I'm already thinking about man, Like you know, you got
Speaker 2: other podcasts. I got other stuff that I'm doing now, man,
Speaker 2: and looking forward to doing, like on the film side,
Speaker 2: man on the documentary side.
Speaker 3: Just different stuff.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I reconnected with one of my homeboys, man and.
Speaker 2: He's the head of security for the ZEUS network, and
Speaker 2: me and him played college football together. I came out
Speaker 2: here to go to a Juco, right, I went to
Speaker 2: a Juco first Long Beat City College. And when I say,
Speaker 2: he was probably the coldest outside lineback round every single man,
Speaker 2: my boy shout.
Speaker 1: Out the big A D.
Speaker 3: But we you know you lose track. Did you played basketball?
Speaker 1: Ain't you? I never? I never. I was never good
Speaker 1: enough to say I played.
Speaker 3: A little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you played sports though, right, I bounced a
Speaker 1: couple of basketballs. But I'm a DJ man. But no, I,
Speaker 1: like I said, I follow sports. You know, I followed back.
Speaker 2: You know, it's one of new things, man, to where
Speaker 2: you got a close bond with somebody, then you know,
Speaker 2: life happened, you start moving on, right. So I was
Speaker 2: just kind of catching up with him, man, what happened
Speaker 2: to him? Because you know, right now he's doing really well.
Speaker 2: Because right now, right now, he doing really well for himself, right.
Speaker 2: You know, he had a security for Zeus. You have
Speaker 2: the Zeus right, all the message stuff, right, and you
Speaker 2: know he making a bunch of money. Man doing well.
Speaker 2: But he took was talking to me, man about this
Speaker 2: dark period that he went through and his wife left him,
Speaker 2: and you know he was like homeless, not homeless, but
Speaker 2: like living out of hotels for a minute.
Speaker 3: And I was just like, bro, I felt real fucked up.
Speaker 3: When he told me. Next, I was like, why didn't
Speaker 3: you call me bro? Mm hm, why didn't you you know,
Speaker 3: try to catch up with me?
Speaker 2: You know me and you boys, right, And he just like, man,
Speaker 2: I don't want nobody to see me like that, and
Speaker 2: I was just like, man, I would hope that anybody
Speaker 2: I really call my friend, or wouldn't let pride be
Speaker 2: the reason they don't get at me from the help?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like I got a homeboy, somebody that was big in
Speaker 2: the industry that just committed suicide. I ain't gonna say
Speaker 2: his name out of respected family, but I just wonder, like, man,
Speaker 2: don't ever be too prized for reach out for help?
Speaker 1: Man? Yeah, you know, you know, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: just checking on people. Like some people their pride in
Speaker 1: their ego is not one of being able to just
Speaker 1: say I need help, right, I think that you have to. Also,
Speaker 1: I think it's all good for us to do therapy
Speaker 1: and just study mental health so that we can look
Speaker 1: at indicators. Indicators are kind of like people withdrawing, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, not doing the things that they
Speaker 1: usually do that make them happy, Like if one of
Speaker 1: my parts breaks a chain, Like if we all say
Speaker 1: we play chess or something whatever, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be like, bro, all right, you sure
Speaker 1: you could. And they were like they might just be like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm tired, or it might just be they this might
Speaker 1: be real tired, but they're like when people do stuff
Speaker 1: consistently and then they kind of break that consistency. It's
Speaker 1: healthy just to say are you okay? Because you'd be
Speaker 1: surprised if we got enough. Are you okay? Is going?
Speaker 1: This would get more people to open up. But a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't ask people if they're okay, especially
Speaker 1: especially two And it's like I just be like, bro,
Speaker 1: you straight, You're sure? It ain't got to be like,
Speaker 1: hey are you okay? I get it, Bro, you straight?
Speaker 1: Everything cool? You sure? You look you look a little
Speaker 1: stretched and look a little down, like you need to
Speaker 1: holler at me. That's the least that we can kind
Speaker 1: of do we have.
Speaker 2: That's the biggest thing, man, because sometimes man, you may
Speaker 2: be saving somebody's life man by just checking in on them.
Speaker 3: Man, because.
Speaker 1: It's man. You know what my one of my favorite movies,
Speaker 1: Hustling Flow is hard out here for a pimp man,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And not to listen, not
Speaker 1: to take anything away. You know, we're just talking about
Speaker 1: you know, African Americans, but like black women, black men,
Speaker 1: like you know, I check on my wife, she checks
Speaker 1: on me, like as a woman as a black woman,
Speaker 1: as a mother. Imagine like the stuff that a black
Speaker 1: woman has to go through on a day to day
Speaker 1: basis for real. But you have to also respect, you know,
Speaker 1: the black black man is the providers and everything. Like,
Speaker 1: it's a lot that everybody goes through. So I tell
Speaker 1: people relationships instead of trying to kind of like I'm
Speaker 1: going through more than you. Love. Me and my wife
Speaker 1: try to support each other and say like, all right, today,
Speaker 1: you seem like you had no more stressful day than
Speaker 1: I did. So let's talk about you and make you comfortable.
Speaker 1: Let me rub your feet, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Let me do this. What's something I can do for you?
Speaker 1: You know, let me cook the dinner, dad saying. Or
Speaker 1: some days my wife might just be like should just
Speaker 1: take my phone, like go shit down? Yeah, just go
Speaker 1: sit down, Just go just go sit down and just chill.
Speaker 1: It'll be here tomorrow, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: know I've been living in a like I told you, man,
Speaker 1: since eighty eight. My moms is in Atlanta. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: really looking at making that move down there next summer
Speaker 1: by me house man show us when I got out here,
Speaker 1: just because I like the fact, man, it's peachful out there.
Speaker 3: I like being the fact man, I can go on
Speaker 3: my mom's backyard.
Speaker 1: And just walk. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just just be cool, man, and just really just
Speaker 2: might go out there and just just go out there, man,
Speaker 2: and really just enjoy nature. And they got a little
Speaker 2: you know, benches out, very few things.
Speaker 1: You know. You just sit down, bro, and you turn
Speaker 1: that phone off. Man, you might. I remember I went
Speaker 1: back there and read a book.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I was back there reading a book, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just said, Man, I cannot do this in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, man, because it's too much going on all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 1: That's that I always admire. The homies. Just stay in
Speaker 1: LA the homies, just stay in New York City. There
Speaker 1: are two beautiful places that I love to come to
Speaker 1: and visit, you know for some days. But there's there's
Speaker 1: certain things. There's certain things I do in Atlanta for
Speaker 1: my own wellbeing, spiritual wellbeing. We got a lot of parks,
Speaker 1: we got a lot of trails, a lot of nature stuff.
Speaker 1: I have to do where I am. And to get
Speaker 1: me wrong, I've been in the city all my life.
Speaker 1: So this is something of recent up the last three
Speaker 1: or four years. But like that, eat me in two.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I always toot like we
Speaker 1: just left l A for the bt BT Awards, and
Speaker 1: it's kind of like in la is a beautiful city,
Speaker 1: but it's just that it's a city.
Speaker 3: A city. And man, when I tell you it's expensive
Speaker 3: out here, man, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Tell you understand how y'all like if gas was six
Speaker 1: seven dollars here you see me walking around everywhere.
Speaker 2: Bro, I'm looking at some of the bills we'd be
Speaker 2: having every month, and I'd be like, thank you Jesus
Speaker 2: that like I can.
Speaker 1: I can do it. And again, I'm not living in
Speaker 1: no like you know, seven eight bedroom, but I think
Speaker 1: about what I paid for out here. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I could be down there, brilliant, something really nice. It's good.
Speaker 1: It's feeling up fast, but it's good. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Oh, Man, I would be there man with Man. I
Speaker 2: know you've got a lot of stuff going on. Man,
Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming to hang out with your boy
Speaker 2: today anytime. Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, please keep it keep it going for your
Speaker 1: fans and for the culture. You know, I'm always one
Speaker 1: call away my brother for sure. For all the Homies
Speaker 1: and homegirls.
Speaker 2: Man, y'all make sure y'all can check out the Big
Speaker 2: Facts podcast what they y'all drop on?
Speaker 1: Bro? You can check that audio out Tuesdays Wednesdays you
Speaker 1: can watch watch the Visual TV Revolt and Thursdays Thursdays Thursday,
Speaker 1: seven pm on that YouTube, Big Faction Network YouTube. We're
Speaker 1: dropping that every Thursday.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, And I wish and we
Speaker 3: all had the links down there. Man, I appreciate you, bro.
Speaker 3: Peace and ill y'all next
Speaker 1: Week, all right, so little to you appreciate, You appreciate you, bro,
Speaker 1: all right, hold on