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Speaker 1: What's adding, what's haddening? What's happening?

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Speaker 2: Is your boy Big Steve with another episode against the

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Speaker 2: Chronicles podcast today. My guy MC eight is out, but

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Speaker 2: I am here with legendary DJ scream. You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying for I asking applause and all that. I'll

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Speaker 2: be hitting at applause. But right now, what's adding with you?

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Speaker 1: What's so? What's up? My brother honor to be here

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Speaker 1: with you. Salute the mcator as well the whole Gangster

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Speaker 1: Chronicles fans salute.

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Speaker 3: Oh for sure, for sure, man, You know what.

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Speaker 2: It was one question I've been wanting to ask you, man,

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Speaker 2: and I was saving this because me and you talk

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Speaker 2: all the time.

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Speaker 3: Is tr really the king of the South?

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Speaker 1: Well, when you let's let's say this, when he first

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Speaker 1: said he was the king of the South, if there

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Speaker 1: were people who didn't believe or opposed it, or wanted

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Speaker 1: to debate it, I think I think he did a

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Speaker 1: damn good job of of of making that case. If

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Speaker 1: you understand it said, you know what I mean, And

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Speaker 1: I think, honestly, man, for me my honest opinion, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: t I is the King of the South. Lil Wayne

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Speaker 1: is the King of the South. Jesus the King of

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Speaker 1: the South. Goude, She's the King of the South, futures

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Speaker 1: the King of the South. I feel like it changes,

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Speaker 1: it goes you know what I'm saying. I feel like

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Speaker 1: the person who who was uplifting the South and holding

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Speaker 1: obviously as time goes on, you know, it changes. The movies,

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Speaker 1: it moves from this artist and that artist, and this

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Speaker 1: somebody can say right now, Gorilla the King of the

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Speaker 1: Queen of us out or something like that. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I feel like I understood when

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Speaker 1: Tip was saying King of the South. Is like when

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Speaker 1: Wayne was saying best Rapperlive. There was a time where

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Speaker 1: I said number one DJ in the South. It ain't

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Speaker 1: That's how we all go to and that's how we

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Speaker 1: the best way I can answer that is, like I said,

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Speaker 1: he made a damn good case.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he for sure did.

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Speaker 2: Now you know one person man like I feel the

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Speaker 2: same way about Snoop. Snoop is always gonna be like

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Speaker 2: got Kender Lamar right now, He's he's the king at

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Speaker 2: the moment. You feel what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You can make the.

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Speaker 3: Case for Eve forty two up in the Bay.

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Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying, because didn't dudes represent the

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Speaker 2: West Coast on a high level?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: For sure on a high level. Now do you think

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Speaker 1: That's a great question, man, hip hop it's like too

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Speaker 1: universal to beat region. No. But what I do think

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Speaker 1: I think we are getting back to if you look

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what I treat that too, man. Atlanta

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Speaker 1: You feel me.

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Speaker 1: Right. But the South, and I.

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Speaker 2: Remember when it first started kind of like making this way.

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Speaker 1: It's just not whoever go nowhere. Nobody was ever mad

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Speaker 2: I'm like you, I want my New York music to

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Speaker 2: But I'm not mad at these younger cats that was

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Speaker 1: They just kind of made it the way. You know.

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Speaker 2: They were so impactful with what they did. Because when

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Speaker 1: Hard out here. I would I would like.

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you man, that futures audience is just as

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Speaker 4: I can believe it. I can believe it. You feel

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And I remember when Gucci Man was

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Speaker 4: Pun was always a real big Gucci Man fan. And

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Speaker 4: actually I always knew about Gucci Man, but he kind

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Speaker 4: to Gucci Man and Pun. You know, Pundu Pun.

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Speaker 3: Is doing his thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, Pun managed a whole bunch of people, high

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Speaker 2: They doing some you know, incredible things over this shout

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Speaker 2: out to the homies. But this younger generation is just

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Speaker 2: So you can't be mad at them kind of emulating

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Speaker 1: Nah, I receive it. I respect it. I respect it.

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Speaker 1: I get it. I get it completely. I get it now.

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Speaker 2: Now, you being the DJ and radio, do you think

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Speaker 1: You know what, man, Obviously there's a lot of different

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Speaker 1: You think what I'm saying, Oh, but I don't think that.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen a megastar. Always had this debate with

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Speaker 1: people there's superstars and there's megastars. Now I won't get

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Speaker 1: in this colum the superstars names because they oh what

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Speaker 1: Drake a Future, I haven't seen a megastar without radio.

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Speaker 1: Me personally, I've seen I've seen unbelievable shit. Like I've

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Speaker 1: this is the independent grind. You did what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: and his concerts. That's amazing what he accomplished independently. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think that radio still has an aid in making

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Speaker 1: people a household name because record over and over and

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Speaker 1: over you here in this record. Personalities are big enough

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Speaker 1: the record and a lot of kids do follow streaming

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Speaker 1: for sure, But I'm just looking to my own personal

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Speaker 1: for school, I got a dropper off the school. Whatever

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Speaker 1: it is still the biggest tool. As far as maybe

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Speaker 1: crossing over is the right word, I think that's important. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it makes it makes megastars, man. I just

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Speaker 1: haven't seen any megastars, you know, without radio. I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen it. And I could be wrong. I had this

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Speaker 1: debate with somebody else, like you're wrong. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: well tell me, tell me a Megican when you think.

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Speaker 2: About it, man, everybody, because you know you can say,

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Speaker 2: but Gucci Man had records on the radio.

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Speaker 1: Gucci Man arguably with a song with Bruno Marsh, Gucci

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Speaker 1: Man arguably transition from superstar to megastar when he got

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Speaker 1: out of incarceration that had them number one radio.

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 1: He was already Gucci. He was already trapped. God. But

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Speaker 1: it's just something about that number one at radio that

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Speaker 1: just puts you in that household name space. Well, let's

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Speaker 1: not take away from the kids that can go do festivals.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, like Playboy Carti's brand right, my

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Speaker 1: card is huge, right, A number one record at radio,

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Speaker 1: not that he needs that to solidify his career, to

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Speaker 1: make him he is who he is and he's a

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Speaker 1: success from top to bottom. The number one record at radio,

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Speaker 1: which is it would just be different, you know, see

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like it's like, yes, you could be

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Speaker 1: the biggest artist ever and now win a Grammy and

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Speaker 1: the culture will respect you, and hip hop will respect

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Speaker 1: you. You could be adult, we'll champion you. But it's just

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Speaker 1: something about that Grammy. Man, something about it.

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Speaker 2: Everything get different, man, Like you said, like you know,

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Speaker 2: Killer Mike won that Grammy.

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Speaker 3: I bet you that show bag looking way different now.

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Speaker 2: Exclusive, no more exactly, and they may get more downloads

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Speaker 2: And I always want to be You for sure have

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Speaker 2: I was looking at Cyprus here was Tiny Desk, right,

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Speaker 1: You know brother.

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Speaker 2: Here, don't pick a couple of big records that people

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Speaker 2: I ain't about to putting nobody's business out there, but

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Speaker 2: You know, head Man, that single you got right there

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Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. The mixtapes I made in

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Speaker 2: these young cats making crazy. Young's going crazy, going crazy

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Speaker 2: You know, we used to set to try to scrape

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Speaker 2: on his iPhone, right, the rocks Man. Right, we didn't

433
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 2: have that back then. But what's happening now is it

434
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 2: would be great if he consulted with a DJ okog

435
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: wish it my next record? Beyond established this sound? How

436
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: can I keep this trend going? That's why you see

437
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 2: a lot of cats right now. And I called the

438
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: TikTok phase right the where records are go platinum go

439
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: because of TikTok and they be big and you don't

440
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 2: even know who these artists are half the time, you

441
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: just know it's a big record, right.

442
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: I think they need to enlist the services of the DJ. Well.

443
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: I do some consulting, and often often we get to

444
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: the point where I say, if you're gonna build a

445
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: team and be an artist, you need to start in

446
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 1: five right, So you need yourself, you need a lawyer,

447
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: you need the engineer, you need a DJ sometimes DJ, engineer,

448
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: producer that can serve you know, you know, back and forth,

449
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: and you need that guy. You might call the guy

450
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: your manager, your hot whatever, but that guy that will

451
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: do the dirty work, the guy don't have no Hey

452
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: you need to book my artist, Hey, you need to

453
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. The guy that's dedicated

454
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: to the cause. If you have those five people and

455
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: you have a good product, you will progress. How far

456
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: are you progressed, that's all up to you know, with

457
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: the fate of your career, whatever, whatever the case may be.

458
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: But you have to have a team. You have to

459
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: have a team. I've never seen it done without a team.

460
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: If you look at the people at the top of

461
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: the top of the top of the top, they might

462
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: not have this big, oversaturated team of a bunch of

463
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: people that will do nothing, but they got a team.

464
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: That's believe. Jay Z's always had a team. Oh for

465
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: sure has a team. Kendrick has a team. These people

466
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: have a team. Drake doesn't move without forty, right, whatever

467
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: that may be. DJ sometimes DJ engineer, producer. It's a

468
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: similar it's a similar cloth, you know what I'm saying. So,

469
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: but you need that person that's gonna tell you the truth.

470
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: Hey man, that ain't it? Or you know what? I

471
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: think you could do that verse better? Yet interesting enough.

472
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: You talk about teams and you mentioned Kendrick Lamar. I've

473
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: known Doc Man since he was maybe fifteen years old. Right.

474
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: I was to my homeboy, Top Dog and Punch Punch

475
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: was still one of my good friends. Talked to Punch

476
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: every day, right, they was over and Carson, you know,

477
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: had the studio in the back of the house, you

478
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: know you And it's funny now, man, I always laugh.

479
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: I always till the top when you make that movie, Man,

480
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 2: Who're gonna get to play in my character? Because I

481
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: was around them so much back then, right, And it

482
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: was just dope because the more Top learned, the more

483
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: they progressed. And I remember when Top first, you know,

484
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: he was chasing the deal at first they got j

485
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: Rock had a deal first, and actually Kendrick Kendrick had

486
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: a demo deal with Death Jam jay Z signed Doc first.

487
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: It was to a demo deal, right, he got a

488
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: demo deal first. A lot of people don't know that,

489
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: but Top, you know, he like everybody else from they

490
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 2: first come in the game. He thought, oh, we need

491
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 2: to go get a record deal, and that's gonna take everything.

492
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: He said, No, he let them, being even more frustrated, right,

493
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: because it was the best thing that ever happened to them.

494
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: They forced them to learn how to make records, right,

495
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: so that studio became kind of like a boot camp.

496
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: My boy I Lei, who's one of the greatest engineers

497
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 2: the game. Now, he got his chops up during that time,

498
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: and they were the first ones really out here attacking

499
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: those blogs, right, and their music just became so undeniable.

500
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: Couldn't nobody sleep on use. A lot of people slept

501
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: on tde at first. Bro, A lot of people did.

502
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 2: Now they just you know, now they probably have. They

503
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 2: gonna probably go down in history, man, right with the

504
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 2: deaf Jams and all of them. Man, there's people that

505
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: really just are part of the lexicond of hip hop

506
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: m because they did. But it was all the team effort,

507
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: and all of them dudes listened to top. They listened.

508
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: They were young, and they was impression. But it was

509
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: a good thing because he lived in the right way, right,

510
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 2: And I think right now, man, I think that's what's missing.

511
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: I think the technology, as much as good for the game,

512
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: I think is kind of killing it because you're not

513
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: getting it.

514
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: You're getting a bunch of people's making records by themselves. Yeah,

515
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: it's different, man, It's always a gift in the curse.

516
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: I would just say that if you look at the

517
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: level that someone like Kanye West took it to whatever,

518
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: we can name so many different people, right me personally

519
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: as a DJ. What made me stronger as a DJ

520
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: and as an overall person that was a part of

521
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: music culture. I went back and study. I could go

522
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: back and talk to you about music from the sixties

523
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: and the seventies and I wasn't even born, you know

524
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I went back and study, and I

525
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: wanted to understand where did this come from, why did

526
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: this happened, what made it successful? Da da Okay, before

527
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: I was even blessed enough to meet a kid capre

528
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: in person or whatever the case is. When I'm talking about,

529
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm a baby when these people was doing their thing.

530
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: But I studied them to the point where by the

531
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: time I met them, like, y'all want you to take

532
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: this wrong way, but I studied you. You understand I'm saying,

533
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: I understand you know the dynamics behind this mixtape and

534
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: why this mixtape was important? And why did I studied

535
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: the game. I'm a student of the game. I think

536
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: the biggest thing is that we can have the technology,

537
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: but we don't have a graduating process. We just raw talent.

538
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: It's just a lot of niggas out there hooping and

539
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: they don't They can hoop like a motherfucker, you know

540
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But there's no so when you're asking

541
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: them questions like, you know, what's your purpose behind this,

542
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: what's your goals where you're trying to take it, how

543
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: you're going to elevate, what's your next album gonna be on?

544
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: What what does ten years look like for you? They

545
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: ain't thought past ninety eight for real, So if your

546
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: minds if your mind, I've always envisioned being old and gray,

547
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I've always envisioned in my

548
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: head one day. I didn't even figure out how I'm

549
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna do something else or have options because I probably

550
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: don't want to be seventy years old in a club DJ.

551
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: I still would love to DJ to some respect, But

552
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: that's kind of what opened me up for media. We

553
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: could sit down and do this at any age. Yes, real,

554
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: Instead what I'm saying. So when you look at a COOLJ,

555
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: a Ludicris, an ice team who became actual movie stars

556
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: TV stars, they had to envision a step ahead of

557
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: Hey man, I probably rap forever. I love the same thing,

558
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: ice Cube, all these people. I'll probably rap forever because

559
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: I love it in my heart. This is my love.

560
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: But boy, this that young boy sport. So you're gonna

561
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: have to You can't strict Oh cool J can have

562
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure this album is dynamic. I still there and

563
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: check it out myself. It's unfair to try to get

564
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: him to stream like a nineteen year old kid. It's

565
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: not fair. But at the same time, Yo, I'm getting

566
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,719
Speaker 1: this TV money. You know what I'm saying. I'm on TV,

567
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: like real television, like NBC. I'm on TV. Yeah, that's

568
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So we have to we have to.

569
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: We have to kind of we always have the og

570
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: and the young young headed conversation and you know, the disconnection,

571
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like we gotta we gotta share

572
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: that game. Man. I listen, a lot of my game

573
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: come from young niggas. When you when the young niggas talk,

574
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: I listen.

575
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: Oh, you have to bro, you have to You can't

576
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: look at them as your competition. You have to look

577
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: at them and say, okay, let me see what they

578
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: got going on. You for sure, buddy, check them out

579
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: of you be lost in the sauce out here.

580
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: I listen. I might not get with you know, the

581
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: fashion part of it, but you know that you know

582
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I listened, and then I'll be quiet

583
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: and I wait till they say what you think? Oh gee,

584
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: oh well, I think you know what I'm saying. From

585
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: my perspective, this is how you can tie you in

586
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: that shit out Cool. Now, we just gave each other game,

587
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: no hate, just love you helping me understand. Man, I'm

588
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: telling you man, like young niggas, man, they don't want

589
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: to know't they don't want to do all that. They

590
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: just want to go SoundCloud here it real quick. I'm

591
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: just telling you they don't want to do all that

592
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. Man. Let me tell you, brother,

593
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: I ain't never watched the podcast. I don't watch the

594
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: whole thing. I watched the shorts. Okay, cool, the young

595
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: people watch shorts. You know what I'm saying. So you

596
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: got to just take that game in from the young people, man,

597
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: and that's the beauty of hip hop. I felt like

598
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: it's always been. Man. One of one of my proud

599
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: hip hop moments was Nas and cool Gie Rap because

600
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: I started to understand hip hop around when Coolie Rap

601
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: was at his and for Nis to be at his

602
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: peak some years later, or not peak, but popping, you know,

603
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: some years later, if it had to come together and

604
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: do that Fast Life record, that's what it's about to me. Yeah,

605
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: it's about DJ Scream doing a mixtape with the new

606
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: hot young thing. That's what it's about. M to me.

607
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: You know, speaking to them DJ Scream mixtapes? What artists?

608
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: Man?

609
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: Really?

610
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: What artists?

611
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: Did you just know from the Rip from you first

612
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: hearing them that they was gonna blow up? And there's

613
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: a lot going on. Lie, Like I always say, shout

614
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: to my brother Rip again, like we we went through

615
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: this movement together. You know what I'm saying. The hood

616
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: rich and all of the homie, salute to all of them.

617
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: But all there was a day I remember Rest of Soul,

618
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: Young Dolphin, when I met him, I may him at

619
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: a Marriott Park a lot. You know what I'm saying,

620
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: Cast me out gave me the music. We chopped it up.

621
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: We just met. Said I'm going to get features. You

622
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm sending you a few more records.

623
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to fuck with two chains this person Da

624
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: da da dah. And when I got in a car,

625
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: I remember putting the CD in because I always I

626
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: would have to ride to your music for at least

627
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: it's like a week before I could do your mixtape

628
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: to fill it, you know what I'm saying. And then

629
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: sometimes I would ride and just kind of listen and

630
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: have selective hearing and all that stuff. I remember, namely

631
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: being on the phone with some of the homies and

632
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: I was like, hold on, bro, and I call you back.

633
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: You good, nah man, I'm listening to this nigga named Dawt,

634
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: this nigga hard hang on the phone. I remember. I

635
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: remember taking a long way to the crib so I

636
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: could finish listening. That's how I was. That was welcome

637
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: to Dolph world. And it was just that feeling that

638
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: I chased. Man. That's the feeling I had with Shaddy Low.

639
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: That's the feeling I had, you know, definitely salute Rip

640
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: he called future. That's the feeling I had listening to

641
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: fut for the first time, so many people. You know

642
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you know, in a in a unique way.

643
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: It's a feeling that I had. It was a different

644
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: type of feeling. But I had Soldier Boys music early too.

645
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: I did this first mixtape and I was like, well,

646
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: this is dancy, and I'm not a dancy person, but

647
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: I know a hit when I hear it. And the

648
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: thing is, this man got ten hits. So I've been

649
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: blessed to man, I've been blessed to hear a lot

650
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: of the same thing. With Migos. We know the story.

651
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: We told the story on video of how they brought

652
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: me the first mixtape. Everybody knows. Scream them in the

653
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: studio like this, that's just me stiff, take this shiit serious?

654
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: What you think? I'm like sor right, So they're looking

655
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: at me. I hate nigga. We the Migos like, but

656
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: off Set always tells a story like man, we went

657
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: back and that made us go harder. Like next time

658
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: we got up in that studio they play that music.

659
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: I couldn't even do nothing but smile. I couldn't even

660
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: have no me mother. I'm like boy, y'all got it.

661
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: That's what hip hop is, man. It's about pushing your

662
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: brothers and your sisters to be the best they can

663
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: be and understanding that the art that you're putting out,

664
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: the art that you're putting out potentially could be here

665
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: one hundred and hundreds of years from now. Yeah, you broke.

666
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 1: Nobody thinks about that. That's why I go so hard

667
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: every day because I don't know what I'm not feelna

668
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: bullshit this interview. We'll know what this interview. You don't

669
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: know what this this, this could be the biggest ever.

670
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: Is always when you think it ain't gonna be nothing,

671
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: that ended up being.

672
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: You think all the time, and when you think it's

673
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: gonna be something, you'd be like damn it, then blow

674
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 2: up like I thought it was right.

675
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: So I mean, I can't listen. I I I lace

676
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: my close up every day, right to play ball every day,

677
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: every situation. I give it, I give it everything. I got.

678
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: You sure, butter, Now, let me ask you this is

679
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: that almost wasn't fair because Atlanta had a lot of

680
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: people blow up who didn't crack that you thought, for sure,

681
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: go blow up.

682
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: Have you had one of those instances when yeah, I

683
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of projects where I would have said,

684
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you use a terminology, didn't didn't

685
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: crack all like, reaches full potential, like we were talking

686
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: about somebody who who had Atlanta on Fire or I

687
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: felt like we had a classic mixtape and who I

688
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: felt like, to this date should be bigger and hopefully

689
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: will continue to grow. He's still making music. Uh, Young

690
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: Rob the jill Man. You know what I'm saying. That

691
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: was one of those special ones recipes. My brother a

692
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 1: Little Hot, you know what I'm saying. A Little Hot

693
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: had the city on fire. That was a memorable project.

694
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: It's it's it's tough normal because you know, and I'm

695
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: not even capping as a thousand plus mixtapes, so it

696
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: gets blurry to me, you know what I'm saying. Uh,

697
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: But those those are those are those are a few

698
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: projects that a couple of projects that also Atlanta's ship.

699
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: I just felt like, you know, ah, you know, a

700
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: little Hot, you know obviously you know what I'm saying.

701
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: The rest of his soul is uh, he lost his

702
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: he passed away, and then Young Ralph he tells his

703
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: own story on Big Facts. You know what I'm saying

704
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: of kind of the things that he went through and

705
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: the ups and downs and all this other type of stuff.

706
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: So you know, those are brothers are still like you know,

707
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: you see, and they still doing their thing for sure.

708
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: But that's just a couple of names of people that

709
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: I had that same feeling when I first heard their music,

710
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: like chills through my body and everything. But you know,

711
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: everybody's journey is different, you know what I'm saying. But

712
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't say. I wouldn't say they didn't

713
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: crack out and say they might not get to reach

714
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 1: their full potential. But you know, those are a couple

715
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: of names I always shout out when I think about,

716
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: you know, the mixtape legacy.

717
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: You know, you know who always wondered about man and

718
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: I know he went to jail.

719
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: Is what was his name? He's a producer, Shorty Red.

720
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, Shorty Red. He was already as helld with me man,

721
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: and then I started hearing him and jeez, he had beef, yeah,

722
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 2: because he did something with Gucci Man, I guess, and

723
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: it was it was just crazy.

724
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: I thought.

725
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 2: I thought, if Shorty Red didn't go to jail, though,

726
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: he could have possibly have been the biggest producer in

727
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 2: the game.

728
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: Got a catalog, man, he got a real catalog. That

729
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: everybody ship. It's crazy. When the versus stuff was going on,

730
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: I was always screaming, like, they need they need to

731
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: put Shot Red up in there with somebody like you know,

732
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: you get hip hop amnesia quick with a lot of names. Now,

733
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: who would you say, like, like, who would you compare

734
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 1: Shorty Red to? Like who can match up with him? Really?

735
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: You probably get like a many fresh as somebody.

736
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: I personally would do shoddy Red. Metro booming that your

737
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: they have a distinct. They have a distinct either way,

738
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: they have some This sound is very distinct. When I

739
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: hear Metro booming beats, I'm like, man, Metro, you know,

740
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: for me, Metro when he was young, you just know

741
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: he's just there's something powerful about his gift. Ah. But

742
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: they both like Metro is too Future, even though Future

743
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: has done some amazing music with DJ Spins south Side.

744
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: There's so many other people we can name, right, mm hmmm.

745
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: But it's something about that future of Metro, right, it's

746
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: just something abouty Oh. I don't know where they left off.

747
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't know any of the personal side of it.

748
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: There's something about shotty Red and Jeezy Jesus. Jesus made

749
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: some dope music of late, but the something about shotty

750
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: Red and Jeezy this is something like tuping t I.

751
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: To me, that was like and Snoop.

752
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 2: It's like when you had about it, it was crazy.

753
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could listen Snoop and go do music with

754
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: for real and it's dope. But it ain't snooping. Dread

755
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: Dre is just this. There's just certain, there's this certain

756
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: synergies and certain like Zaytoven, Gucci Man. Mm hmm, listen, man,

757
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Druma Boy, Gucci Man, drummer Boy.

758
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: It's just certain. It's certain kickoffs, certain certain certain chemistries

759
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: that you just can't explain. It's almost like a spiritual

760
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like it's like when them

761
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: two brothers getting them on together. It's different.

762
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: They just in pocket, man. And that's the thing.

763
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: When you get those special combinations like that, to me,

764
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 2: you need to let that run go on as long

765
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: as it can have a little bullshit don't happen man

766
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: or whatever.

767
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: You gotta let that go and want you want to

768
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: spread your wings man, if you're an artist, year you

769
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: want to you want to do music with other other people.

770
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: I can imagine when we look at the hip hop

771
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: legacies of Pete Rock and see a small gangstar, you know,

772
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: I can imagine that, Imagine what goes into creating the

773
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: art and the music, and imagine how much time you're

774
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: spending with each other. It's a music like it's a

775
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: it's a it's a relationships like a business, a partnership,

776
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So anytime that happens, regardless

777
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: of what you're doing. It could be music, it could

778
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: be media, it could be sports whatever. You know, as men,

779
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, with egos, we all have egos as men.

780
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: You know, stuff can happen. But if you can for

781
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: the sake of the fans, I agree some of them names. Man,

782
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: it's just something about when certain people link up so Dumn,

783
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: it's special. It's special, and it's really hard to recreate

784
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: the moment sometimes, Man, it's almost impossible. Sometimes.

785
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 3: You know what I was gonna ask you, man, were

786
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: talking about the South Right.

787
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: As far as producers down there, you know, Many Fresh

788
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: is probably my favorite producer from down there.

789
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: Dope, dope favorite producer man again a DJ because and

790
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: you know, I wish I had the homie glasses on

791
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: here because he was telling me, you know, when he

792
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: first got to work with him, My man, he's processed.

793
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: He is he going there?

794
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: May he make the record? He said, it's like a party. Yeah,

795
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: he's having a party. And his drums just you know,

796
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: he start everything out with the drums. Hecause he make

797
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 2: everything fresh and he could be hooked and everything like that.

798
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: When you say that, Manny's probably when you say that

799
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 2: Manny Fresh is probably radised. Producers come out the South.

800
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: You know, I'm from Atlanta, now I know maybe Yeah,

801
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. But the South though, we talk

802
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: about the whole South.

803
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: Man all up. It is hard. Yeah, it is hard

804
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: to match what many Fresh did with cash money mm hmm,

805
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: those timeless records. Oh it's but it's also hard for

806
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: me to even if we talk about New Orleans sound,

807
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to not at least acknowledge you know,

808
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: beats by the pound. Ye, no limit knowledge. You know

809
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It's hard for me to not acknowledge

810
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: DJ Paul and Juicy J. No, this is my they

811
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: some monsters, but from a production aspect, what they've done

812
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: and how it's been recreated and re sampled so much,

813
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: it's just hard for me not to acknowledge them from

814
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: a production standpoint.

815
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 3: I'm kind of tripping.

816
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 2: I forgot about and I said that before that Paul

817
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: and Juicy probably was the title because they sound has

818
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: been emulated so much.

819
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: Man.

820
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 3: I think Juicy J said that he was clearing the

821
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: record every day.

822
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: Hey man, listen, it's hard not to acknowledge that. I don't.

823
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 1: I don't have all the names of the Florida legends

824
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: that did, like you know, the Miami Bass music and everything,

825
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: J Mix, DJ mister Mix, DJ mister Mix. You know.

826
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: Actually I think toomth early On got some games, mister Mix.

827
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, this is a good friend of mine,

828
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 2: So you got too. Can't forget about Too, who still

829
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 2: got some amazing music.

830
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: Man, I don't forget about Tom in no way I

831
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: could sit here and recipes Freco Wade not acknowledged with

832
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: organized did I have to acknowledge it? So I'm not

833
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: debating is that question. I'm just saying I have to

834
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: acknowledge some of these people that created well, I.

835
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: Don't know if you can't say it's the greatest man

836
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: because all of them is so created. What they do, man,

837
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 2: all pocket they bring their own originality to it.

838
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: You know. See it's it's it's on the West Coast.

839
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: The philosophy is that it's pretty cut and dry. That

840
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: is dre right, That's that's the philosophy that we that's

841
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: what we get. But I do know that there's a

842
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: lot of greats out there from the Bay right then

843
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: some some some timeless music. I do know a brother

844
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: absolute and I was a massive fan of still a

845
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: fan Warren G. You know, is the business you dig

846
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, these are people, man. A lot

847
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: of times I think people don't you know quick well

848
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: quick accomplished. Oh DJ like listen, but but but for

849
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: the sake of for the sake of barbershop talk, A

850
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: lot of people on the West Coast would probably say, Drake,

851
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: I don't you know the South carries someone's territory. We

852
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: just named all these people, but we didn't even get

853
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: to Texas and.

854
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 3: They all that.

855
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: And you know who we didn't name either, I think

856
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: is he's done so much R and B. Jermaine Duprix

857
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: is a bad name, Jermaine Duprix is the name you

858
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 2: have to salute and respect.

859
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: L A. Reid, You know what I'm saying, You have

860
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: to respect that. And then the South, to be honest, encompasses.

861
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: To be honest, it encompasses for real. And Timblin they

862
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: from Virginia, the South from South. So that's why I said,

863
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: I can't listen, mad he's a monster on the turntables,

864
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: on the production.

865
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: And what he's done.

866
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: He's a monster. Uh but Yo, it's a lot of

867
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: great producers below this, Mason Dixie.

868
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: Bro Well that's why I say, Man, the South, the

869
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: South got one of those runs, man to where to

870
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: never end, because like you said, it literally goes from

871
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: east to west right, you know, you got kind of

872
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: ends at Texas right and goes back down to the

873
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: bottom of Miami up.

874
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 3: To Va and all the other stuff.

875
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 2: Man, it's just so like the influences on parallel because

876
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: it got so many different pockets. Like you got to remember,

877
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: New Orleans got their own little bounce, right, Atlanta got

878
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 2: his own bounce. You got Memphis that kind of got

879
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: his own little bop to it. We got Miami too,

880
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: and I remember it was a time man that the

881
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 2: bass music was real big.

882
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 3: And at l too.

883
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. I mean, you know, influenced by Florida, but

884
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: there's so many greats and so many names we can

885
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: and those those those records were in fuse with R

886
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: and B to create a whole new genre of like

887
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: R and B in fuse with with with bass music

888
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: and Atlanta music. So man, the history and the legacy

889
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: is rich, man, it's it's it's just here in Atlanta alone,

890
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: not even just speaking of the South. The history and

891
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: the legacy of the music and the production, it's just

892
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: so rich. Yeah.

893
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: Real, No, I'm gonna flip it over a little bit

894
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: to the podcast to the podcast game. Now, you just

895
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: you didn't come up with big facts by yourself.

896
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: Me and Big Bank shots to my brother Bank J

897
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: jumped on. J jumped on after after our first season,

898
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But yeah, we were just

899
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: chopping it. Man. He'd already did this massively huge interview

900
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: with Future, who you know, doesn't do a lot of

901
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: interviews with people, and they got to talking, oh and

902
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: had had a big interview. And then when I actually

903
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: linked up with Bank, I'm like, man, I'm honest, I

904
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: was interviewing him for my radio show. I was like,

905
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean, honest, man, yo, you gotta you gotta do it, man,

906
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: because it was so raw, it was so unfiltered. IM like,

907
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: immedia needs you, like, you gotta do it. So his

908
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: thing was, and he knows me, and I've known him

909
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: a very long time. He was like, shit, everybody talking

910
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: about they gonna help me do it, but ain't nobody

911
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: help me do it. So shit, you help me do it,

912
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: We'll do it. So I was like, now, don't play

913
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 1: me with a good time. I think we were recording

914
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: probably eight days later. I went and bought banners and

915
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: lights and got the crew together to record it. And

916
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,479
Speaker 1: he walked in and he was like, oh, oh shit

917
00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: you oh you for real? Year was this? This is nineteen.

918
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: We'll be the fifth. The five year birthday of Big

919
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 1: Facts will be this December.

920
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy, y'all started off around the same

921
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 2: time Gangs the Chronicles did. I remember, yeah, start off

922
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: around the same time Games.

923
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: The Chronicles did.

924
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 2: And the business just don't change so much because I

925
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: don't think none of us knew what this was gonna be.

926
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: And I like, and I man, I love I love

927
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: the pure innocence of when I was making Mixed Tastes.

928
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: I ain't know the hell I was doing people talk

929
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: about and I wish I would have knew better about business,

930
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: but I ain't got no publishing on the Mixed Taste Listen, man,

931
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm hustling. But that's what this podcasting was. It was like, man,

932
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: we just kicking shit. Bank was like I could smoke.

933
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, we want you to smoke and curse, bruh,

934
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: do whatever you want to do. I want you to

935
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: be yourself. And that's that's that's the element. Even as

936
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: we evolve and the sin and you know what I'm saying,

937
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: we have more fans and we've grown and we're grateful

938
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: for that. We still try to keep that big, facts

939
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: core feel of it. Hey man, we just in here

940
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: just kicking it, kicking shit, talking about topics, giving our

941
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: perspective on topics and everything like that. You know what

942
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like that, that's that's what it really is.

943
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: So I love it, man, It's raw. I love it.

944
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: I think everybody deserves to have a voice. I know

945
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot of podcasts, hey man, I don't I

946
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: don't discourage anybody from you know, speaking their mind and

947
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: exercising their voice.

948
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, one of the things that we

949
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: will see. I think the video kind of brought a

950
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: different element to it because you know, there's a lot

951
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: of brothers, you know, doing their thing on YouTube different

952
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 2: formats now. But I think one of the things that

953
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: YouTube does do is don't nobody like getting those yellow

954
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: dollar signs getting to monetized. I see a lot of

955
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 2: people kind of like playing around like water and they showdown.

956
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 2: And I think the next evolution, man of the podcast. Man,

957
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: we already don't seen to, you know, go to video platform.

958
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: I think the next thing is gonna beat the podcast

959
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 2: as when these streaming platforms man.

960
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: Well listen. I can only speak for myself. If I

961
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: go to certain apps. There's a few, there's a few

962
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: like Lessen, a handful of TV shows that I watch,

963
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: all big sports fans, you know what I'm saying. I

964
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: watch a lot of sports, namely football. But when I

965
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: do have the time to sit down and be entertained,

966
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch a podcast. It's not even it's not

967
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: even close. If you look at my watch time, I'm

968
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: watching podcast and I watched as well established podcasts. But

969
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm like digging for new podcasts, trying to find a young,

970
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: hungry new podcast niggas. You know what I'm saying, Like

971
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a world where I think we did

972
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: have to go through the hype of it for a second,

973
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 1: the hype, Oh, you can make a hundred million dollars.

974
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: But when you when you when you step back from

975
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: that and you pay it to into the pure hearted

976
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: podcast community, which really what it is is just what

977
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: we're doing right now is just having a conversation. By

978
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: the time this conversation is over, you listen to it,

979
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: you learn something, you know what I'm saying, You learn

980
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: something about hip hop history, you got a little game,

981
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 1: hopefully you're motivated, whatever the case is. Like, that's why

982
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: it's just so important. Honestly, we all say, man, I

983
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: think we all felt a little weird in the pandemic,

984
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: and Bank was like, man, I ain't gonna lie, man,

985
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: we need to do the podcast like my therapy. And

986
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: that's when we jumped on zoom and kept it going

987
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: on zoom for the people. You know what I'm saying,

988
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: because it was like, man, it was deeper than just

989
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: interviewing people like you said, we have conversations. So we

990
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: have a conversation and it's like we might be talking

991
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: about mental health or we might be talking about health,

992
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it's therapy, you know

993
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So being able to just talk to

994
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: people and see their perspectives and know that they're going

995
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: through the same thing that you're going through, and know

996
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, a lot of times you agree to

997
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: disagree or you agree or whatever the cases. It's therapeutic, man.

998
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the dope part about it is, man,

999
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 2: is dope to see brothers having those conversations about mental

1000
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 2: health for sure, for sure, because I think it was

1001
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 2: a time man, especially coming up in a hood to

1002
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: where you just didn't tell nobody you was dealing with

1003
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 2: some shit, right, and we didn't know what to call

1004
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 2: it back then. Like our knew brothers who now always

1005
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 2: say okay they had PTSD, we just thought they was

1006
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,720
Speaker 2: just bugged out. You feel what I'm saying, Like, oh, man, crazy,

1007
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: We all had that crazy homeboy in the hood, right,

1008
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: but those cats was really going through some things. Now

1009
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: they got diagnosed for it. Man, I encourage all my

1010
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: homeboys Man, it ain't nothing. We just don't been through

1011
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 2: so much shit's black men. It ain't always about you know.

1012
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 2: Drama is just the stuff that we go through.

1013
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: Like, Man, I'll be real with you.

1014
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 2: It was so much going on at one time, man,

1015
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 2: to where I really felt like every time the police

1016
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: pulled me over, I was possibly to lose my life.

1017
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 3: Life seriously.

1018
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 2: I went through that for a minute, man, to where

1019
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 2: it was just like you bombarded with all this stuff

1020
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 2: that's going on.

1021
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: You get pulled over, right and you're thinking like, man,

1022
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: I got my hands from the team, the two how's

1023
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: this dude?

1024
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 3: How's he gonna be today? Is he gonna be in

1025
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 3: a good move today? Or is he gonna be in

1026
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 3: the because.

1027
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: You never know, have them get scared of us half

1028
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: time they pull us over, so we don't know what's

1029
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: go happen. So I went through that phase, man, I

1030
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: went through the phase man that just you know, you

1031
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 2: deal with death so much in our community, just wondering like.

1032
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: How am I gonna go out? I think those are

1033
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: real things that we just never be scared to talk about. Bro. Man,

1034
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's the truth. And I'm gonna just

1035
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: say you know, my fresh therapist is God in my prayer.

1036
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I taught to die about anything.

1037
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, likewise, but it's but it's

1038
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: but it's but it's it's valuable. Man, it's listen, I

1039
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: gotta I got a massive sneaker habit. If you see

1040
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: my sneaker collection, you're like, well, And what I said is, man,

1041
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take I'm gonna buy two or three less

1042
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 1: pair of sneakers a month so I can get this therapist.

1043
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: Because at first, I like, man, I ain't got no

1044
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 1: money for that. You know what I'm saying, Man, these sneakers,

1045
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: I love them. That's therapeutic for me too. But I'm like,

1046
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 1: I can I'll never wear all these sneakers. It ain't ever,

1047
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1048
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 3: But if you have you done therapy yet?

1049
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: Huh?

1050
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 3: Have you had a therapy session yet?

1051
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: No, That's what I'm saying. I've been doing therapy for

1052
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: like three years.

1053
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 3: No for sure.

1054
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: Yes, I slowed down my sneaker habit and invested some

1055
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: of that money into a therapist. And listen, she's she's

1056
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: brought me from understanding I would tell her I have

1057
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: panic attacks, Like if I'm driving and the cops pull

1058
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: me over, I start having a panic attack. But it'll

1059
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: make me more panicky that I ain't got nothing going on,

1060
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: by the way, but I'm just in panic because I

1061
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: don't know what they own, like you say, bro, and

1062
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: I'll be going to be literally like I can hear

1063
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: a I can hear a siren right now, I'll jump them.

1064
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: And you know what the scary part about the Panica

1065
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: Taxi is is you think you have a heart attack

1066
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: of something.

1067
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: I've I've had whole breakdowns hospital like, I've been through

1068
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: all of that, and I didn't understand till I got

1069
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: in therapy shots the Big Energy, this exclusive info. We

1070
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta spin off of Big Fast coming with

1071
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: one of the home girls, Big kaylor shots to her

1072
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: and it's based on progression and mental health. That should

1073
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: be dropping Q four. But I did not know that, listen.

1074
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: I stayed in the middle class. I stayed in the hood.

1075
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: I stuff heard gunshots. I've been through all of that.

1076
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: I didn't understand and never processing that and just being

1077
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 1: tough and just saying, man, whatever, you know what I'm saying,

1078
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: and never processing it and never talking about it. Then

1079
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm holding it in and it's actually hurting me. You

1080
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: did what I'm saying Losabo's Green parents at nineteen years old.

1081
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: This is stuff that I never I was always a

1082
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: tough one. Mm you see what I'm saying, process stuff.

1083
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1084
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: The first time I had a panic attack, man, I

1085
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 2: was at one of my son's football games. It was

1086
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: his first game starting in the USC, right, and I

1087
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: just came from upstairs. You know, you're in the stadium. Man,

1088
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 2: I'm running back downstairs, you know, in case the kickoff, right,

1089
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: and I'm just sweating.

1090
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: And my heart is like my wife looked at me.

1091
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to say nothing because I'm like skin,

1092
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, am I having a heart attack right now?

1093
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: Point shout out to my boy Big Dennis. Man. Big

1094
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 2: Dennis actually man won him and another one at the homies.

1095
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: Man grabbed me and I wound up on USC side line. Man,

1096
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: the doctor you know, the team, and they took me ambulance.

1097
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 2: They didn't know what was going on. And this is

1098
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: you know, I was ashamed of talking about this stuff

1099
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: for the longest, right, But then I said, you know what, man,

1100
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: get being ashamed about some stuff. If I can help

1101
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: another brother out man to identify this stuff man and

1102
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: just come to find out. Man, I've been having panic

1103
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: attacks man, probably for the past five or six years.

1104
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: I just didn't know what they was they. Man, Listen,

1105
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: I have them my sleep everything. One of my biggest supporters,

1106
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: my brother man. You know, I just call them if

1107
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm having a date. One biggest supporters is just the

1108
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: Fab you know. He openly said that he was going

1109
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: through anxiety and panic attacks and stuff like that when

1110
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: I was in a very very, very very when I

1111
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: couldn't shake that. So I had a point where I

1112
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: was having, like I said, breakdown. I was having three

1113
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: panic attacks a day. It just it just was wearing

1114
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: on me. But I'm still trying to be strong for everybody.

1115
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be the strong one and everything like this,

1116
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: and me and Fab would bill and He'll tell me, Bro,

1117
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: you got to get out of nature like that, nature

1118
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: will heal you. You got to get out there and

1119
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: just get the sun and grove dis effects, just get

1120
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: healed and just and then my therapist was just like

1121
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm being honest. Until you learn how to

1122
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: truly let go you're gonna suffer. You gotta let go.

1123
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: You gotta just let go. You gotta be able to

1124
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: say fuck it. Fuck, fuck the DJ screen ship, fuck

1125
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: trying to do this, Fuck your payroll and the people.

1126
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: You gotta pa fuck it and focus on you. Bro.

1127
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 3: It's a lot. I don't think people understand.

1128
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 1: Man.

1129
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,919
Speaker 2: I've been like I was in the Mixed game. Man,

1130
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 2: I bought my first house because of the Mixtape.

1131
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 3: Game, you know, due to it.

1132
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: Man, when we was able to you know, before the

1133
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 2: mother Cats got busted and doing what they was doing.

1134
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 2: You know, it was just a real crazy time, right

1135
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 2: because I was doing homie dads and them stuff.

1136
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you know we was getting cod man,

1137
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: you know, yes, yeah, yeah, you know, so it was cracking.

1138
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 2: I remember I went through that phase, man, to wear

1139
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 2: that kind of dried up because I remember when that

1140
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 2: happened to Drama and them. Dog, I had to come

1141
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 2: to owe me like one hundred and fifty dollars.

1142
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: That was dog. Yeah, we all remember that day. I

1143
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: think we all lost a little change that day.

1144
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 2: And the whole thing about it is I just paid

1145
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 2: out on some stuff and I'm like, you know what,

1146
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: I'm getting this wired at the end of the week.

1147
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to pay them out now, right, so I

1148
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 2: don't pay money off man that I'm thinking coming back

1149
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 2: in the end of the week. And they're like, man,

1150
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 2: we can't get you know, ain't nothing happening. This hm

1151
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 2: V is a company, you know, the record chain over

1152
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 2: in England. Right, They wasn't playing out and a lot

1153
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 2: of my mixtapes was original music. They just couldn't get

1154
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 2: clear through the you know, they were stuff that people

1155
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 2: wouldn't go. They didn't make albums right, And so I'm

1156
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 2: dealing with these cats. They asked me, man, what's up

1157
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 2: with the bread? And I actually had to show them like, bro,

1158
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: I'm not getting paid. You know, it ain't like it

1159
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 2: ain't there. And I really went through this transition. I

1160
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 2: just got my first A and R job at that time,

1161
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 2: so I wasn't really tripping, but I was. I was like, damn,

1162
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 2: I just lost the grip of money. I would like

1163
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 2: to had that income going. But that showed me something

1164
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: I learned a valuable lesson during that time, bro, is

1165
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 2: that you can't take nothing for granted.

1166
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: You can't tell you yet. Man, Let's go back to

1167
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: what I was saying earlier about lacing up them cleats

1168
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: every day being grateful. You're not knowing because that was

1169
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: the pivot, you know what I'm saying. When when the

1170
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: whole mixtape raid went down, it was like, oh, man,

1171
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: you know we're highly dependent upon this, Like this is

1172
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: what we depend on, you know what I mean? And now, honestly,

1173
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: before like covid hit, I already put myself in the

1174
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: mindset of I never want to depend on one thing

1175
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: too much, my livelihood. You can't.

1176
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm already thinking about man, Like you know, you got

1177
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: other podcasts. I got other stuff that I'm doing now, man,

1178
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 2: and looking forward to doing, like on the film side,

1179
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 2: man on the documentary side.

1180
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 3: Just different stuff.

1181
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: Man.

1182
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: I reconnected with one of my homeboys, man and.

1183
01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 2: He's the head of security for the ZEUS network, and

1184
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 2: me and him played college football together. I came out

1185
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: here to go to a Juco, right, I went to

1186
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 2: a Juco first Long Beat City College. And when I say,

1187
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 2: he was probably the coldest outside lineback round every single man,

1188
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 2: my boy shout.

1189
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: Out the big A D.

1190
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 3: But we you know you lose track. Did you played basketball?

1191
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: Ain't you? I never? I never. I was never good

1192
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: enough to say I played.

1193
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: A little bit.

1194
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you played sports though, right, I bounced a

1195
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: couple of basketballs. But I'm a DJ man. But no, I,

1196
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 1: like I said, I follow sports. You know, I followed back.

1197
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 2: You know, it's one of new things, man, to where

1198
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: you got a close bond with somebody, then you know,

1199
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 2: life happened, you start moving on, right. So I was

1200
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 2: just kind of catching up with him, man, what happened

1201
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 2: to him? Because you know, right now he's doing really well.

1202
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 2: Because right now, right now, he doing really well for himself, right.

1203
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 2: You know, he had a security for Zeus. You have

1204
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: the Zeus right, all the message stuff, right, and you

1205
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: know he making a bunch of money. Man doing well.

1206
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 2: But he took was talking to me, man about this

1207
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 2: dark period that he went through and his wife left him,

1208
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 2: and you know he was like homeless, not homeless, but

1209
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 2: like living out of hotels for a minute.

1210
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 3: And I was just like, bro, I felt real fucked up.

1211
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 3: When he told me. Next, I was like, why didn't

1212
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 3: you call me bro? Mm hm, why didn't you you know,

1213
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 3: try to catch up with me?

1214
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 2: You know me and you boys, right, And he just like, man,

1215
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 2: I don't want nobody to see me like that, and

1216
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 2: I was just like, man, I would hope that anybody

1217
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 2: I really call my friend, or wouldn't let pride be

1218
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 2: the reason they don't get at me from the help?

1219
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1220
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 2: Like I got a homeboy, somebody that was big in

1221
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 2: the industry that just committed suicide. I ain't gonna say

1222
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 2: his name out of respected family, but I just wonder, like, man,

1223
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: don't ever be too prized for reach out for help?

1224
01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: Man? Yeah, you know, you know, you know, you know,

1225
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: just checking on people. Like some people their pride in

1226
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: their ego is not one of being able to just

1227
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: say I need help, right, I think that you have to. Also,

1228
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: I think it's all good for us to do therapy

1229
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: and just study mental health so that we can look

1230
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: at indicators. Indicators are kind of like people withdrawing, you

1231
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, not doing the things that they

1232
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: usually do that make them happy, Like if one of

1233
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: my parts breaks a chain, Like if we all say

1234
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: we play chess or something whatever, you know what I'm saying,

1235
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be like, bro, all right, you sure

1236
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: you could. And they were like they might just be like, man,

1237
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm tired, or it might just be they this might

1238
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: be real tired, but they're like when people do stuff

1239
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 1: consistently and then they kind of break that consistency. It's

1240
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 1: healthy just to say are you okay? Because you'd be

1241
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: surprised if we got enough. Are you okay? Is going?

1242
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 1: This would get more people to open up. But a

1243
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: lot of people don't ask people if they're okay, especially

1244
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: especially two And it's like I just be like, bro,

1245
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: you straight, You're sure? It ain't got to be like,

1246
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: hey are you okay? I get it, Bro, you straight?

1247
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: Everything cool? You sure? You look you look a little

1248
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: stretched and look a little down, like you need to

1249
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: holler at me. That's the least that we can kind

1250
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: of do we have.

1251
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 2: That's the biggest thing, man, because sometimes man, you may

1252
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 2: be saving somebody's life man by just checking in on them.

1253
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 3: Man, because.

1254
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: It's man. You know what my one of my favorite movies,

1255
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: Hustling Flow is hard out here for a pimp man,

1256
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And not to listen, not

1257
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: to take anything away. You know, we're just talking about

1258
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: you know, African Americans, but like black women, black men,

1259
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: like you know, I check on my wife, she checks

1260
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: on me, like as a woman as a black woman,

1261
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 1: as a mother. Imagine like the stuff that a black

1262
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: woman has to go through on a day to day

1263
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: basis for real. But you have to also respect, you know,

1264
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: the black black man is the providers and everything. Like,

1265
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: it's a lot that everybody goes through. So I tell

1266
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: people relationships instead of trying to kind of like I'm

1267
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: going through more than you. Love. Me and my wife

1268
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: try to support each other and say like, all right, today,

1269
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: you seem like you had no more stressful day than

1270
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: I did. So let's talk about you and make you comfortable.

1271
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: Let me rub your feet, you know what I'm saying.

1272
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 1: Let me do this. What's something I can do for you?

1273
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: You know, let me cook the dinner, dad saying. Or

1274
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: some days my wife might just be like should just

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Speaker 1: take my phone, like go shit down? Yeah, just go

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Speaker 1: sit down, Just go just go sit down and just chill.

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Speaker 1: It'll be here tomorrow, you know what I'm saying. I

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01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: know I've been living in a like I told you, man,

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Speaker 1: since eighty eight. My moms is in Atlanta. Man, I'm

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Speaker 1: really looking at making that move down there next summer

1281
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: by me house man show us when I got out here,

1282
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 1: just because I like the fact, man, it's peachful out there.

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Speaker 3: I like being the fact man, I can go on

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01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 3: my mom's backyard.

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01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:57,719
Speaker 1: And just walk. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just just be cool, man, and just really just

1287
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Speaker 2: might go out there and just just go out there, man,

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01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 2: and really just enjoy nature. And they got a little

1289
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Speaker 2: you know, benches out, very few things.

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Speaker 1: You know. You just sit down, bro, and you turn

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Speaker 1: that phone off. Man, you might. I remember I went

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Speaker 1: back there and read a book.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 3: I was back there reading a book, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I just said, Man, I cannot do this in

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01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, man, because it's too much going on all

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Speaker 2: the time.

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Speaker 1: That's that I always admire. The homies. Just stay in

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Speaker 1: LA the homies, just stay in New York City. There

1300
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 1: are two beautiful places that I love to come to

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01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: and visit, you know for some days. But there's there's

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Speaker 1: certain things. There's certain things I do in Atlanta for

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01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: my own wellbeing, spiritual wellbeing. We got a lot of parks,

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01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,759
Speaker 1: we got a lot of trails, a lot of nature stuff.

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Speaker 1: I have to do where I am. And to get

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Speaker 1: me wrong, I've been in the city all my life.

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01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: So this is something of recent up the last three

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Speaker 1: or four years. But like that, eat me in two.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I always toot like we

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Speaker 1: just left l A for the bt BT Awards, and

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like in la is a beautiful city,

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Speaker 1: but it's just that it's a city.

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Speaker 3: A city. And man, when I tell you it's expensive

1314
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Speaker 3: out here, man, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: Tell you understand how y'all like if gas was six

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Speaker 1: seven dollars here you see me walking around everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Bro, I'm looking at some of the bills we'd be

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Speaker 2: having every month, and I'd be like, thank you Jesus

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01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 2: that like I can.

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Speaker 1: I can do it. And again, I'm not living in

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01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: no like you know, seven eight bedroom, but I think

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01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: about what I paid for out here. I'm like, man,

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01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 1: I could be down there, brilliant, something really nice. It's good.

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01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: It's feeling up fast, but it's good. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Man, I would be there man with Man. I

1327
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 2: know you've got a lot of stuff going on. Man,

1328
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming to hang out with your boy

1329
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 2: today anytime. Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, please keep it keep it going for your

1331
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 1: fans and for the culture. You know, I'm always one

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Speaker 1: call away my brother for sure. For all the Homies

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Speaker 1: and homegirls.

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Speaker 2: Man, y'all make sure y'all can check out the Big

1335
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 2: Facts podcast what they y'all drop on?

1336
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: Bro? You can check that audio out Tuesdays Wednesdays you

1337
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:18,799
Speaker 1: can watch watch the Visual TV Revolt and Thursdays Thursdays Thursday,

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Speaker 1: seven pm on that YouTube, Big Faction Network YouTube. We're

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Speaker 1: dropping that every Thursday.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, And I wish and we

1341
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 3: all had the links down there. Man, I appreciate you, bro.

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Speaker 3: Peace and ill y'all next

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Speaker 1: Week, all right, so little to you appreciate, You appreciate you, bro,

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Speaker 1: all right, hold on