1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis Buck 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: as we are rolling through what should be a very 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: fun show for all of you. Appreciate all of you 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: out there listening live. Encourage you as always download podcasts, 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: make sure you don't miss a moment. The Biden administration 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: getting nervous, Buck, evidently over the polling issues that they 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: are seeing in swing states. There's a report that they 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: are responding by hiring way more polsters in the swing states, 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: maybe just to try to get out polls that are 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: more positive for them. We will discuss that a little bit. 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: But one thing that Biden has not done so far 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: is really, i would say, aggressively try to make his 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: case to that many independent voters. You'll remember, Buck, we 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: talked about out Joe Biden turning down the Super Bowl interview, 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: and I thought it was a colossal mistake. And then 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: he followed it up by doing an interview with whatever 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: that guy's name is, Seth Meyers. I think on NBC 20 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 1: that nobody watched, and they went and got Ice cream 21 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: and I just kind of sit around wondering what is 22 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: their strategy. They're failing on biden Omics, the bloodbath thing, 23 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: I think is bouncing back very much against them. And 24 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: a story came out yesterday that was illustrative I think 25 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: of how much the Biden administration tries to control everything 26 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: that is asked of Biden and everything that he says. 27 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: And it was from a friend of the show, Sage Steele, 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: who was at ESPN for a very long time and 29 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: she left recently. She came on this show to talk 30 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: about leaving. She's now doing a podcast with Bill Maher 31 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: focusing on long form conversations. 32 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: But as part of an interview she did. 33 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: She said that when she interviewed Joe Biden on e ESPN, 34 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: that every question was scripted and that she was not 35 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: allowed to ask anything, no follow ups, anything else. 36 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: Listen to this discussion. I'm curious your reaction, Buck. 37 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: This is about two months after he took office. 38 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 4: That was an interesting experience in its own right because 39 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 4: it was so structured and I was told, you will 40 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 4: say every word that we write out, you will not 41 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 4: deviate from the script, and so. 42 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: To the word, like every single question was scripted. Gone 43 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 3: over dozens of times by many executives, editors and executives. Absolutely, 44 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: I was on script and was told not to deviate. 45 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: It was very much this is what you will ask, 46 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: this is how you will say it, No follow ups, 47 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: no follow ups. Next, I knew that this was a 48 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: lot bigger than just the wonderful editors that I worked with. 49 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 4: This went up to the fourth floors. 50 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: We said that where all the. 51 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 3: Bosses, the top executives, the decision makers are. The president 52 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: of our company, the CEO were there. 53 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: Okay, So Buck, I can say honestly, you and I 54 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: in three years of doing this show, and I bet 55 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: you when you did your show before and certainly when 56 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: I did mine, there's never been a time where we've 57 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: been like, okay, we'll script questions or even said okay, 58 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: we'll refuse to ask a question about ex ra. Why 59 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: we've not have been perfect in our interviews? I'm sure 60 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: for you sometimes you finished an interview and you're like, 61 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: I should have asked, should have asked another question, But 62 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't because we were anything other than imperfect, as 63 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: everybody is in their jobs every day. 64 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: So what's your reaction to this? Because I have a 65 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: ton of thoughts. 66 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm curious what your reaction is as a guy who 67 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: doesn't usually watch what would ostensibly be sports coverage. 68 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 5: Well, for one thing, you can know for certain that 69 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 5: this is not a one off, meaning that this isn't 70 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 5: just something that happened with Stage Deal, the Potemkin Village approach, 71 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 5: to the Biden presidency and to President Biden himself, where 72 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 5: it's all a facade, it's fake. They're presenting something that 73 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 5: isn't real, that isn't just a thing that happens in 74 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 5: the media. And if you really listen a little bit 75 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 5: between the lines with Saved Steel, it is the expectation 76 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 5: in media, meaning you aren't allowed to do journalism. It's 77 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 5: not that people are choosing whether or not they will 78 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 5: do journalism. It is the democrat apparatus of the media 79 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 5: has rules that don't even necessarily need to be spoken, 80 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 5: but sometimes they're spoken, and sometimes people lose their jobs 81 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 5: over it. And a perfect example of this would be 82 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 5: you remember when the what was it ABC? Those things all? 83 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 5: I think it was an ABC reporter said that, you know, 84 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 5: she talked to John Fetterman and the guy clearly has problems. 85 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: Dasha Burns, I believe was her name, and I think 86 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: it was NBC, and everybody was furious that she was 87 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: willing to admit that he had cognitive issues. 88 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 5: And it was all at once. I mean, it was 89 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 5: a unified front of how dare you say a thing 90 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 5: that hurts a Democrat in an election season, no matter 91 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 5: how important it is, no matter how obvious it is, 92 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 5: and no matter how much the public has a right 93 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 5: to know about the thing you are talking about. This 94 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 5: is true across the board. This reminds me a little 95 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 5: bit of when we would see the most egregious examples 96 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 5: of the censorship that they would do play against conservatives 97 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 5: on Twitter when it was Twitter and on. 98 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 2: Facebook and these other places. 99 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 5: And I would always say, for every conservative who's outright band, 100 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 5: there are probably one hundred or one thousand large accounts 101 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 5: who are being shadow band and who are being throttled. 102 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 5: And you know, it's an iceberg. What you see above 103 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 5: the surface is just a piece of it. What Sage 104 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 5: Steel is dealing with here is just the rules being 105 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 5: exposed about how you're not allowed to do. You're supposed 106 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 5: to call yourself a journalist to fool the public into 107 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 5: thinking you're neutral so you can do the dirty work 108 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 5: of Democrat propaganda for the Bide administration. That is the 109 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 5: universal corporate Democrat expectation in the media. And what I 110 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 5: think is particularly unique about this story is this is 111 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 5: outreach because your average person who's putting on ESPN, and 112 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 5: this is why it's so insidious, I believe, is not 113 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 5: anticipating that they're going to get political related takes in 114 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 5: any way. So they are interviewing Joe Biden, they are 115 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 5: scripting every question, writing it out for allowing Sage Steele 116 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 5: no deviations here. And they're also I bet and this 117 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 5: is a question that ESPN should have to answer. I 118 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 5: guarantee you they gave all the questions to the Biden 119 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 5: White House before it started. So not only are they 120 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 5: scripting questions, one of the reasons why you would script 121 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 5: all these questions is so you could just send it 122 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 5: along to the Biden White House and let them know 123 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 5: in advance what he's going to be asked, so his 124 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 5: answers are better. 125 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: And it's also it should. 126 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 5: Be demeaning to people to play a role in this fraud, right, 127 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 5: I mean, especially if you make a living. You know, 128 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 5: I've never provided questions, and sometimes people will have their 129 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 5: pr reps. I don't know what your stock answer is. Generally, obviously, 130 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 5: we have a great team who handles like the PR 131 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 5: reps who want to. 132 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: Do a little bit of you know, pre interview set up. 133 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 5: But whatever someone says, can you give me a you know, 134 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 5: can you give me a sense of the questions topics? Fine, 135 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 5: I'll tell someone we're gonna talk immigration, We're gonna talk, 136 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 5: and that's standard, right, you can give them because so 137 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 5: people can be up on the news of the day. 138 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 5: But if they're like, can you give me a sense 139 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 5: of the questions, I tend to respond with something like, 140 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 5: I'm gonna ask you questions about the news of the day, 141 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 5: or I'm gonna ask you questions about the topics that 142 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 5: we discussed. I've never provided questions in advance because it's 143 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 5: just unseemly right, because there's something dishonest in doing that 144 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 5: and not telling people that's what you're doing. Right, You're 145 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 5: you're a part of a front, You're a part of 146 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 5: a fraud. 147 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: Also, I think part of being an interviewer is listening 148 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: to what someone says and then following up with what 149 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: they say and based on what answers they give, potentially 150 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: having a question that would not have been on any 151 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: list in advance. 152 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 5: I mean, sometimes you got to ask the same question 153 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 5: more than once, like GI, mister Pence, will you pardon 154 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 5: Trump if you become president? 155 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: Maybe you ask it a few in a row. 156 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: But I think for Sage Steel here this is a 157 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: form of liberation because she's coming out and telling the truth. 158 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: But I think it lets you see behind the curtain 159 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: how much of a rig job is in effect, and 160 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: how protected Biden is, and yet they still will not 161 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: do very many interviews with him, even when you consider 162 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: that much of this is set up impossible for him 163 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: to fail. I don't even like I don't know about you. 164 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: I don't even really like that much knowing what the 165 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: topics are going to be on television. I do a 166 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: lot of Fox News hits, and I always say buck 167 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: and I did three hours of radio. If I'm not 168 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: prepared to talk on television for three minutes about any 169 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: topic under the sun, then I haven't prepped well enough 170 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: for radio. 171 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you ask me anything. 172 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 5: Basically, I never as a host, I can tell you, 173 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 5: I never ask for talking points. I don't understand why 174 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 5: with certain people they ask for talking points. This is 175 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 5: a standard thing in the business because we'll just roll 176 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 5: with whatever, like some of the there's no question that 177 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be like, oh, I can't I can't handle 178 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 5: that curveball, you know so, and you're also not going 179 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 5: to I think that's an old model where people just 180 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 5: want to get their talking points out. So I'm always 181 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 5: bothered by that. I feel like it's a giant It 182 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 5: is a giant waste of my time. When cable news 183 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 5: show has asked me for talking points beforehand, and I 184 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 5: generally try to avoid doing it, so I generally don't 185 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 5: do it. They'll say it's because they want to know 186 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 5: the POV or something. 187 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's worthless personally. 188 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 5: But that all said, Sage Steel coming out and making 189 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 5: this clear to everybody, you would think that maybe more 190 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 5: people would be willing to say, yeah, I have the 191 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 5: same right. We know she's not the only one correct, 192 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 5: so why will't anyone else come out and back her 193 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 5: up on this and say yeah. 194 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: I've had the same experience with Biden. 195 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 5: It's because right now, the people who are in our business, 196 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 5: who are supposed to be presenting the public with the truth, 197 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 5: their primary concern is what will this do for me 198 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 5: and my partisan belief system, especially after the election, right like, 199 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 5: where do I go when this is all done? 200 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: I think also again speaks to Biden's decrepitude that even 201 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: with these rig job safety interview guidelines in place, he's 202 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: not doing any interviews. So and I think you have 203 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: to tie this in with whenever you see him walk 204 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: around with one of those cards and it says you 205 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: sit at the head of the table, you ask this 206 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: question of this person. I don't know that we've ever 207 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: seen a more scripted presidency. And yet the moment Biden 208 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: goes a sentilla off the script, you can see how 209 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: much this Chimpskon village just totally collapses around him. 210 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 5: You know, there's generally two concerns when people are when 211 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 5: the handlers are all trying to make sure that there 212 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 5: are no disasters in an interview, the concerns are the 213 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 5: person will get asked a question that they it is 214 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 5: going to be an attack effectively, because yeah, they're not, 215 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 5: you know, so usually it would be hey, Biden, why 216 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 5: is the border so bad? The other thing could be 217 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 5: maybe this person's just not a compel speaker, does not 218 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 5: is not good on their feet, so they're going to 219 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 5: kind of fumble and bumble around. 220 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: That's usually the concern, Clay. 221 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 5: I think with Biden, the primary concern is, and I'm 222 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 5: just being honest, people just seeing him in real time 223 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 5: and seeing the state that he's in, you know what 224 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like, it's not even it's not even that 225 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 5: he would get cornered on an answer because. 226 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: He's by it. He's saying, Oh, it's about folks. You know, 227 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 2: he just say some nonsense. 228 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 5: Seeing him in real time on TV when he's not 229 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 5: on prompter in his little suit, trot it out there, 230 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 5: you know, with whatever meds they're giving him, that's the 231 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 5: problem they have. They just don't want people to know 232 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 5: what's really going on. 233 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's also important to contrast that 234 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: as we have with Trump. You and I have interviewed 235 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: Trump three times now for an hour. 236 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: Right. 237 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: We did it at Bedminster, We've done it at mar 238 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: A Lago twice, if I remember correctly, in person, three 239 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: times for an hour. At no point in time have 240 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: they ever said any topic is off limits or tried 241 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: to give us any kind of scripted talking points. I 242 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: think that's a credit to Trump and his handlers. But 243 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: I think it's also emblematic of the massive difference in 244 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: ability to just communicate between Trump and Biden right now, 245 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: and what Sage Steele said is more common than not, 246 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: I believe, for how Biden is being interviewed right now, 247 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: and I think it should kind of give you a 248 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: picture behind the curtain of what's really going on. Speaking 249 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,599 Speaker 1: of what's really going on, Saturday, Buck final four for 250 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: the men, I have got winners for the people at 251 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: Price Picks. I also saw by the way big news. 252 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: Price Picks has announced that they're hiring one thousand new 253 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: people in the Atlanta area and opening up a thirty 254 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: three thousand square foot headquarters there. They put out a release, 255 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: Atlanta Braves begin their season tomorrow. 256 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: CONGRATU. That's a big hit. 257 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: One thousand new employees coming for the city of Atlanta. 258 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: Congratulations big thirty three thousand square foot office building in 259 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: midtown in the atl That's big and unfortunately, I'm going 260 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: to take some of their money and give it to 261 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: all of you. 262 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: Gifts for the people here with these four winners. 263 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: Zach Edy less than forty one and a half points, 264 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: rebounds and assists in the Perdue game against NC State. 265 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: I think they're going to officiate him a lot more 266 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: carefully and not allow him to stay in the lane 267 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: for twenty seconds every possession like they did against Tennessee 268 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: DJ Burns. He's the star of the NC State team, 269 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: a bonafid lovable hero that has emerged the round mound 270 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: of rebound the new version points, rebounds, assist more than 271 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: twenty two Mark Sears, engine of the Alabama offense, point 272 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: guard more than twenty eight and a half points, rebounds 273 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: and assists. And Grant Nelson he's a swing or a miss, 274 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: almost nothing in the middle. 275 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: I think he's going to have a good game. 276 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: I think Bama plays well against Yukon greg on our staf. 277 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: Yukon's one been up by thirty points in all four 278 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: of the game so far. Sooner or later somebody has 279 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: to give them a little bit of a game. I 280 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: think Grant Nelson goes for more than nine and a 281 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: half points. That pays buck ten to one. If you 282 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: go to prizepicks dot com, put in my name Clay, 283 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: download the app today. 284 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: It's fun. Does any of that make any sense at 285 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: all to you? 286 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 5: It makes makes perfect sense. And I need you to 287 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 5: nail this one because I think Carry's going to Costco 288 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 5: on Monday. Good heavens the damage on the credit card. 289 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 5: Who knows what's gonna happen. So that's right, I get 290 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 5: these picks right, that's right. 291 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: We need to hit h four to four picks ten 292 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: to one payout again. Go download the app prizepicks dot 293 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: com slash Clay. You can play in Georgia, you can 294 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: play in California, you can play in Texas. And it 295 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: can help Buck cover Carry's bill at Costco if we 296 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: hit fingers crossed gifts for the people. 297 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: Prize picks dot com Code Clay. 298 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: He's Buck Sexton, He's Clay travels together. 299 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: They're breathing sanity into an insane world. 300 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 5: So Sage Steele, formerly a ESPA, and feaks out about 301 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 5: how the Biden interview was entirely scripted like a play. 302 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 5: I mean it's it's yeah, you know, she has her lines, 303 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 5: he has his lines prepared and you can't veer off 304 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 5: the lines. And it's a fraud. It's Soviet style, that's what. 305 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 5: That's the kind of interview that it was. And they're 306 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 5: already attacking her because you're not allowed. 307 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: This is the thing. 308 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 5: If you are a left wing Democrat, You're not allowed 309 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 5: to speak the truth. The truth is the enemy of 310 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 5: all of what you stand for. 311 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: So you're not allowed to. 312 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 5: Say things out loud, no matter how obvious and important 313 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 5: and truthful they may be. 314 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: And so among those leading the. 315 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 5: Charge to attack Sage Steel, Clay, I see here Keith Olberman, 316 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 5: who is writing the following. Of course it was scripted. 317 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 5: If it hadn't have been Sage Steel, the dumbest person 318 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 5: I've ever worked with in sports or news couldn't have 319 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 5: gotten through it. I just got to say, first of all, 320 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 5: Keith Oberman, the fact that he was ever MSNBC's highest 321 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 5: paid and highest rated anchor tells you, I think all 322 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 5: you need to know beyond that very nasty, unhappy fellow. 323 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 5: But this is now the game. 324 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: The game is. 325 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 5: Whatever they want to say about Stage Steel, they can 326 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 5: say because she broke with the Biden cult. 327 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: I can guarantee for you, Buck, there are a lot 328 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: of dumber people in sports media. I mean so like, 329 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: I like Sage and she's a good friend, and she 330 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: is smart, and she is talented and all those things. 331 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: But it's not even that. 332 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: It's just a nasty attack. It's not even vaguely true. 333 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: Vaguely it's not even remotely true. Like there are people 334 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: in media, I'm sure you know some where if somebody 335 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: said that's one of the dumbest people I've ever worked with, 336 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: you might be like, you know, there might be some 337 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: truth there, Like there's like this is one hundred billion 338 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: percent an attack because she spoke out about the way 339 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden is being protected. And if Keith Oberman 340 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: said this, if a conservative male commentator or just a 341 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: Republican said this about any black woman, they would immediately 342 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: be castigated, attacked as racist and sexist, and it would 343 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: be an unacceptable opinion to have. 344 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 5: I guarantee you there's not going to be some outrage 345 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 5: session on the view where they say, you know, how 346 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 5: dare Keith Olberman. I'll attack this very accomplished and successful 347 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 5: black female broadcaster, Sage Steele, because you are not allowed 348 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 5: to step out of line. You must go along with 349 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 5: the absurdist orthodoxy that Joe Biden is fine, that he's great. 350 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 5: In fact, Scarborough is one leading the charge here play 351 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 5: as we know. Scarborough says Biden is the sharpest he 352 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 5: has ever been, and he says this out loud and 353 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 5: he doesn't start laughing hysterically afterwards. I don't think he 354 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 5: has a sense of humor. But that's a whole other thing. 355 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 5: We'll take some of your calls on all this. And 356 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 5: also I want to tell you we got Mike Rowe 357 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 5: later on the program talking to them about gen Z 358 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 5: and trade school jobs and how there's a boom in 359 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 5: trade school stuff going on. We'll talk about it. You know, 360 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 5: twenty bucks isn't enough to buy a pair of tickets 361 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 5: to the movies anymore, but it is enough to pay 362 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 5: your cell phone bill this month. 363 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: With Pure Talk. 364 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 5: For just twenty dollars, you get unlimited talk, text, plenty 365 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 5: of five G data. This is all from our longtime sponsor, 366 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 5: Pure Talk. 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Say 376 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 5: the keywords clay and buck pound two five zero, say 377 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 5: Clay and Buck. 378 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: That was in the Wall Street Journal in their editorial 379 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: pages yesterday. There's been a lot of talk, and we've 380 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: certainly discussed it a great deal in the last three 381 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: years on this show, about how university should handle student 382 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: protests and speakers that are unpopular on campus and all 383 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: of these different aspects. And I don't know if we 384 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: mentioned the Vanderbilt University college kids who protested against Israel 385 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: by occupying university university facilities and refusing to leave. But 386 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: the president of vander I guess the chancellor maybe president, 387 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,719 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call him, wrote a piece and 388 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: it says free speech is alive and well at Vanderbilt University. 389 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: Now full disclosure. I went to Vanderbilt for law school. 390 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: I met my wife there. I absolutely love this school. Okay, so, 391 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: and my wife graduated from the law school recently. So 392 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: if you don't want to believe my opinion here because 393 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna love certainly, I can understand it. But I've 394 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: ripped plenty of colleges that I've gone to. You heard 395 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: me rip gw to the high heavens over the fact 396 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: that they had death to martyrs on the university library 397 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: as a protest against against Israel, responding to defend itself. 398 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: I thought this was interesting, Buck. There were around twenty 399 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: eight students, twenty seven students. 400 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: I want to read a paragraph for you. 401 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: On Tuesday, twenty seven students violated the rules when they 402 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: forced their way into a closed administrative building, injuring a 403 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: community service officer. In the process, students push staff members 404 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: and screamed profanities. What ends up happening? They arrested and 405 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: charged three students with assault. One student was charged with vandalism. 406 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: These are criminal charges. The remaining twenty five students who 407 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: were protesting have been suspended for violating university policies and 408 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: violating the speech codes. And they are saying here teaching 409 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: students the importance. This is the chancellor teaching students the 410 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: importance of upholding rules for free expression. Doesn't squelch their 411 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: right to voice their opinion, it protects it. Free expression 412 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: is alive and well. But basically at Vanderbilt, if you 413 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: violate the law, you're going to be charged with a crime, 414 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: and you're going to be suspended from the university. 415 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: I love this. 416 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: I love a university coming out and saying, look, you 417 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: have the right to share whatever opinion you want. Nobody's 418 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: saying these kids can't demand the divestiture of Vanderbilt's connection 419 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: to Israel because they want to support Palestine. But if 420 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: you shove police officers and you trespass and occupy university 421 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: buildings and refuse to leave, there'll be consequences. And so 422 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: I want every university doing more of this. Whatever the 423 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: speech is. If you're going to allow students to take 424 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: over a campus, eventually you give a Heckler's veto, so 425 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: to speak for speech on campus and everything else. 426 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: This is the right move. I think. 427 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 5: I think that there are big opportunities here for a 428 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 5: number of educational institutions. You know, we partner with, for example, 429 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 5: Hillsdale on this show. They're already doing the you know, 430 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 5: like constitution patriotic real history teaching. But I think that 431 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 5: there's an opportunity for other schools who aren't known necessarily 432 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 5: as conservative institutions to just take the same path, the 433 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 5: pro education path, and watch their enrollment swell, watch their 434 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 5: donations increase, watch their rankings, which you know, I know, 435 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 5: we still have a little bit of a fixation as 436 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 5: a society on like, oh, what's this school rank or 437 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 5: what's that school rank? But for example, I mean, I 438 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 5: just look at the University of Florida, where my wife went, 439 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 5: and this is a school that has always had a 440 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,239 Speaker 5: very good reputation for a public university, right, I mean 441 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 5: it's been but I mean in the latest rankings you 442 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 5: can see it's gone up nine spots since twenty seventeen, 443 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 5: so it is rocketing up. And these things are related 444 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 5: in my mind, to not have you know, getting rid 445 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 5: of the DEI stuff, getting rid of the woke indoctrination, 446 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 5: focusing on actual education. You can make these relatively straightforward 447 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 5: tweaks and have your adjustments and have some pretty profound 448 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 5: impact on the perception of the places as well as 449 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 5: what's actually going on day to day. So there's a 450 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 5: real opportunity here for schools to just say, you know, 451 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 5: because half the country at least doesn't agree with this stuff, right, 452 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 5: I mean I think it's more than that, depending on 453 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 5: the issue. 454 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I wanted to give a shout out too. 455 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: We mentioned the University of Florida firing all the DEI 456 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: people because the state law was asked saying, hey, we're 457 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: not going to do this. University of Texas just got 458 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: rid of its entire DEI program too. So all these 459 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: red states out there, your state institutions, I give credit 460 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: to Greg abbott Ron DeSantis. This is destroying those institutions 461 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: to a large extent from the inside. And if you 462 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: run a company, you're bringing in these people that are 463 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: destroying your company from the inside too. I think you 464 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: have to be careful about who you hire. If people 465 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: are obsessed inside of your company with only diversity, equity, 466 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: and inclusion, I would suggest sooner or later you're going 467 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,959 Speaker 1: to get your ass kicked by competitors that care about 468 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: serving customers for better. 469 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 2: You know, there's also a. 470 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 5: Truism or a reality that I came into contact with 471 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 5: in the various government bureaucracies that I worked in in 472 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 5: my twenties. When you have people who are paid to 473 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 5: do a job and there really isn't anything productive for 474 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 5: them to do, they will find things to justify their existence, 475 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 5: their paychecks and their powers. So, you know, the I 476 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 5: think a lot of these places, especially some of the 477 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 5: more old school institutions, you know, universities that are you 478 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 5: know elite. I think that they I'm going back here 479 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 5: maybe twenty years. But they thought we'll set up this 480 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 5: DEI stuff so that we don't get criticized for not 481 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 5: having DEI. But they didn't realize is once you bring 482 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 5: in the commissars, they start making demands. Yea, once you 483 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 5: have people who are paid, you know, two hundred grand 484 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 5: to give a lecture once a semester on how racist 485 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 5: the school is, they're going to start making demands because 486 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 5: one they like the power to their idealogues, and three 487 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 5: they want to be able to turn to everybody and 488 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 5: say this is what we're doing right, So it's not 489 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 5: it's not passive. DEI is never going to be passive 490 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 5: in these places. 491 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: Also, you can never have somebody who says, you know what, 492 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: you're doing a really good job, because that would get 493 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: themselves out of a job. Nobody notice hell, nobody have 494 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: comes in for DEI and says, you know what, I 495 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: think this company is actually doing a really good job 496 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: promoting the best people to get the best jobs. No 497 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: di I person has ever said that, because if they 498 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: say it, then they get fired. 499 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think also, there there's always work. 500 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 5: To be done you've see yeah, well you've seen this 501 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 5: with some of the very well funded and very influential 502 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 5: formerly you know, gay and lesbian nonprofits right that we're 503 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 5: that we're pushing for for gay marriage and things like 504 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 5: that in the past. Okay, So then you have the 505 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 5: Obergerfeld decision and then you you know what are they now? 506 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 5: It's all about transgenderism because you what are you gonna say? 507 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 5: We have full legal equality, and you know the fight 508 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 5: is is right there. The fight can never be over 509 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 5: because you need the donations. So now it's all you 510 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 5: got to make your eight year old trends. You're a 511 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 5: bad person. 512 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: Well not only that, I mean I just I think 513 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: sports a perfect example of this. Every single person I 514 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: was talking about this some yesterday and having fun with it. 515 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 1: Every single person out there who is a true sports 516 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: fan would be super happy to have a gay or 517 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: transgender star athlete on their team if it meant that 518 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: they were going to beat their rival. If you told 519 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: people right now, hey, your team can be completely heterosexual 520 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: but they lose every game, or your team can be 521 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: half gay and they win the championship, every real sports 522 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: fan would be like, I'll take the half gay team. 523 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: People just don't care, right, like in your own private life, 524 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: if you want to make yourself happier and love who 525 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: you want to love. 526 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 2: I think the vast majority of people don't care. 527 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: I know, sports fans only care about wins, right, and 528 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: companies should care about profit. 529 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 5: This is why the fight over women in men's sports 530 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 5: is actually so important, even from the perspective of you know, 531 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 5: people that don't watch a lot of professional sports, because 532 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 5: one of the only areas of public life where you 533 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 5: can see true tests of objective excellence and where objective 534 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 5: excellence is rewarded, yes, is professional athletics. 535 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 2: It's one of the very few where everyone can see it. Right. 536 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 5: You can say, oh, like, look at this, you know, 537 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 5: fun guys performance, or look at this doctor's number of surgeries. Yeah, 538 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 5: but you don't have twenty million people watching the doctor 539 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 5: do with surgeries, right, you do have that. So for 540 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 5: the social impact, the psychological impact on our society is 541 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 5: the one. 542 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: Area where we can see what is what seems to. 543 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 5: Be the objective competition that is supposed to elevate excellence. 544 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 5: They're telling us, yeah, that six foot five guy who 545 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 5: weighs two hundred and forty pounds has no advantage over 546 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 5: those one hundred and twenty pound girls. And because if 547 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 5: they can get you to say that, as we've said before, 548 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 5: they get you say absolutely anything. They can get you say, 549 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 5: you know, there is no difference between a penis and 550 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 5: a vagina. 551 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 2: It's the same thing. They can get you to say anything. 552 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: It's also why you never hear the DEI people say, 553 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,239 Speaker 1: you know, the US men's basketball team needs to be 554 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: more diverse, twelve black guys, it's not really representative of 555 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: what the United States looks like. The twelve black guys 556 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: are the best, right, and people want the best. DEI 557 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: doesn't really work in sports because the best might You 558 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: see where England was complaining because the English women's soccer 559 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: team was too white, and you're like, well, are there 560 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,239 Speaker 1: non white players that are better that should be on 561 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: the team, Like nobody cares about anything other than excellence 562 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: in sports, and it gets shot down really quickly in 563 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: the world of sport. 564 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 5: This is also why honest, and this is also why 565 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 5: when they say that, you know, women make eighty seven 566 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 5: cents on the dollar or seventy seven cents in the dollar, 567 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 5: whatever it is. Find me a business that doesn't want 568 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 5: to increase its margins by twenty percent, and I'll find 569 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 5: you a business that's about to go out of business. 570 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 5: I mean, that's just it's also objectively obviously absurd. But 571 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 5: these are the things you have to believe the absurd 572 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 5: to be a good person. That's the central premise of 573 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 5: the Democrat Party. 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Coming up in a 601 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 5: few minutes, we'll talk to you about this strike on 602 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 5: a AID convoy in Gaza, having killed seven AID workers 603 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 5: and and it's having big ramifications, not just for the 604 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 5: conflict over there and and all the whatever people refer 605 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 5: to his international opinion, but here at home, Biden getting 606 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 5: a lot of pressure. People are saying he is he 607 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 5: is very angry about this. I can say that, I 608 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 5: can say p I S were pissed off. Yeah, he's 609 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 5: pissed off. Pissed off right here. Yeah, sure, and so 610 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 5: there's that. We'll get into that in just a few minutes. 611 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 5: To take some of your calls as well. To say, though, Clay, 612 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 5: you know what I realized. I realized that there was 613 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 5: a whole as we talked to our friend Steven Miller yesterday, 614 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,719 Speaker 5: whose call about blood Sport was brilliant. Although that one email, 615 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 5: well one VIP email or did remind me. I love 616 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 5: the Predator movie. I don't know, it's absurd. It is 617 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 5: a it is preposterous. They're running around the jungle like 618 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 5: Schwarzeninger's wearing just like this little vest and he's so jacked. 619 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: The whole thing is obsurd. 620 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 5: There's some laser firing amphibious monster that goes. 621 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: It's amazing. Though, it's amazing, but it's crazy. Love that movie. 622 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 5: But you know, I hadn't seen the Alamo movie, and 623 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 5: I realized. I was, like, I've read biographies of Davy Crockett, 624 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 5: and some of you point out, yes, he called himself David. 625 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 5: Later on Davy became kind of a he was he 626 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 5: was a stage play. Essentially, they performed as Davy Crockett 627 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 5: while he was alive, and so Davy became it. But 628 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 5: I watched The Alamo. I was drinking my Crockett coffee 629 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 5: despite the fact that he's going to keep me up late. 630 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 5: At Crockettcoffee dot Com. By the ways, where you get 631 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 5: this amazing, delicious blend. We are going to have these 632 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 5: mugs for sale soon. Also going to tell you with 633 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 5: our phenomenal Crocket logo. So Crocketcoffee dot COM's where you 634 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 5: go for that. The Alamo movie had Billy Bob Thornton 635 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 5: was the best thing in it. He played David Crockett. 636 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 5: You also had Sam Houston, you had you know, you 637 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 5: had Bowie, not David, the other Bowie and it's Jim Bowie. Yes, 638 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 5: And it went pretty well as a movie, I think, 639 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 5: But I gotta say they didn't do it. The battle 640 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 5: sequences I thought could have been a little better than 641 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 5: they were. 642 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. Have you seen it. There's a twenty 643 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: twenty years old Yeah, no, I've never watched it. 644 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: I remember vaguely when it came out, And you hate 645 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: sometimes when I do this, but I'm gonna just toss 646 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: out this idea. Crockett Coffee obviously loves American and American history. 647 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: We will give Krockett coffee to any historic site out 648 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: there that wants coffee to be able to serve to 649 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: people who come visit. So I would love if you 650 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: went to the Alamo if we could make them a 651 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: little bit more money on their coffee. If you went 652 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: to Davy Crockett's birthplace, if you went to the Hermitage. 653 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: If you reach out to the show and you are 654 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: in charge of a nonprofit American historical site and you 655 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: would like to have a coffee from people who love 656 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: American history and think American history is good, and I 657 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: imagine many of the people who visit your sites would 658 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: be we will give it to your site and allow 659 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: you to make the profit off of the coffee. 660 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 2: We will get it to you. 661 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: So if you reach out to Clay and Buck like 662 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: you like this idea, this is like I mean, I 663 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: love the idea. 664 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 5: If you go to an American history site a lot, 665 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 5: I'll get a cabin museum in Rutherford. There's obviously Crockett 666 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 5: County in Tennessee. I don't know how we'd figure that 667 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 5: one out, but. 668 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 2: There's the Krockett Tavern Museum. These are all in your 669 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: home state. 670 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: By the way, So yeah, I would want to go 671 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: visit some of these places if I haven't been before 672 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: Civil War battlefields. Obviously I'm a Civil War history nerd, 673 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: But any of these places out here. 674 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: James K. 675 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: Polk's home, the Hermitage, Andrew Jackson's home close to me. 676 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: If you guys want Crockett coffee and you want to 677 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: serve it to your audience, we will deliver it, get 678 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: it delivered to you, and you can make the profit 679 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: off of it and hopefully make your your historical site 680 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: better able to serve the customer by making a little 681 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: bit of money off of off of coffee. 682 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 5: And I think having a I was thinking about this 683 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 5: when I was watching the movie too, having a badass 684 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 5: knife named after you, Like people just call it a 685 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 5: Bowie knife. 686 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty That's a pretty cool way to go. 687 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 5: Like, if you're looking at a legacy as a frontiersman, 688 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 5: to have that as your legacy, that there's a knife 689 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 5: that everyone refers to with your name, it's pretty cool. 690 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 2: Do you know why that knife was designed? 691 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: It was because he got into a fight, yeah, and 692 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: was not able to draw his knife and defend himself 693 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: quickly enough, so they legitimately the Bowie knife legitimately was 694 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: designed by the Bowie brothers to be able to be 695 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: used in close. 696 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 2: Combat to kill people. 697 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: And that scene in the history where Jim Bowie is 698 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: in his bed in the Alamo. Is there any more 699 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: badass way for an American legend to have died than 700 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: shooting people from his bed and they found just stacks 701 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: of Mexican soldiers. I mean literally, he was too sick 702 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: to be out of a bed, but he was like, 703 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 1: load me up, I'm going down. I mean, the whole 704 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: Alamo story by itself, I think is one of the 705 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: greatest stories in American history. But the way that Jim 706 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 1: Bowie went out is badass. By the way, I'm related 707 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: to William Barrett Travis, who was the commander inside of 708 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: the WB Travis, who was the growth of Victory or 709 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: Death letter, drew the line in the sand. The whole thing, 710 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: the whole Alamo is I think one of the best 711 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: stories of American history. 712 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 5: We're gonna, you know, maybe we'll even do some history 713 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 5: podcasts that will throw into the clay and book podcast 714 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 5: feed going into some of this, maybe get some of 715 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 5: the historical experts. But to support all these efforts and 716 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 5: drink the best coffee you can get absolutely anywhere Crocketcoffee 717 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 5: dot com. 718 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,919 Speaker 2: Subscribe today, my friends, We'll be right back.