WEBVTT - The Great Air Jordan Train Robberies of 2024 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:03.400 Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:06.559 Elizabeth and Saron Burnett. 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:09.440 Girl, Oh you know the sean answer that I got 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:11.319 another question? Do you know what ridiculous I do? 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:16.360 I do Mustard? Right? 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:18.840 It is when you do it? 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:23.360 You know, I'm like I've always been from the day 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:28.000 Kenny fan. So I love I love not only is 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:31.000 he being celebrated for his genius but his pettiness. 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:32.639 Oh yes, god, I love that. 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:36.720 But you know he's got this like amazing producer mustard, right, 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.479 and where does he get that? Why do they call 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:41.599 him Mustard? Do you know? 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.720 So they don't call him ketchup? I do not know. 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:50.880 His first name is Dijon, Dijon. Isaah MacFarlane. Mama was playing, 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:54.680 so she's he's Dijon. Everyone calls him Mustard, which I 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.560 think is terribly cute. You know who else thinks that's cute? 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:03.080 The Heinz Company, Oh yeah, so there that This is 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.600 our crossover today, Our mash up today is Mustard and Mustard. 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:10.920 So they're making him like a brand ambassad They're calling 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:16.160 him the Chief Mustard Officer, and he's gonna They're gonna 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:19.440 drop a brand new limited edition heinz mustard with like 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.000 a new flavor, but they want it's remixed by him, 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:26.240 but they won't tell us what's in it pretty much. 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:31.000 And then he also like he's been using it as 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.320 a secret ingredient for his homemade chicken wings and for 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.240 years now heines mustard. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.400 So they really do have a natural born collapse. 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:41.839 Oh my gosh. Of course this man, his whole life 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:46.839 is mustard. You go into his house, everything mustard colored. Yeah, 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:50.280 and they're gonna be coming out with other stuff there. 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.640 They have a short film. It's up for an oscar 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:58.680 and then they're doing like, uh, he's gonna have like 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:02.960 events and mustard tastings, Yes, mustard tasting. 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:04.720 There's a flight of mustard give an. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.720 Addition product comes out during the summer. So you can 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.600 go to the Hinest website and sign up and they'll 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.120 just sell your email address to the highest bidder. I 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.080 don't know. Do you like mustard? 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.000 Yeah? Actually I do. I like a lot, like the 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.360 Russian hot, I like the Hawaiian I like the I 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.440 like even gray poop hole. Yeah, like even like. 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:25.320 The Westst's amazing best mustard, Mendocino mustard. 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.920 Oh yeah, that's good. Oh, yeah, I'm into that. 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:29.960 Mendo and that's ridiculous. 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.480 How many mustards are sitting in your fridge right now? 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:37.399 Oh buddy, seventeen, I got like, I don't know, I'd 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.080 put it into like there's at least. 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:40.240 Double digites, it's eight. 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.480 Okay, yeah, I'd have to go count. But you know 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:44.040 that like Chinese mustard. 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:48.720 Oh yeah, Chinese hot mustards. I'm still in the Chinese 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.680 hot mustard so good. You know what else is ridiculous? Elizabeth? Yes? 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:52.079 Please? 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.280 Okay, when you go full fast and the furious in 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.280 real life. Oh but not to like steal hundreds of 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.600 millions of dollars from a bank in Brazil that's actually 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.520 in the police headquarters. No imagine if you go full 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.800 fast and the furious but for a box car of 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:07.560 Air Jordan's. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:31.440 My god, this is ridiculous crime. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:35.160 The podcast about ab third and outrageous cap us, ice 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:41.480 and cars, it's all weter free and one hundred percent ridiculous. 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:45.960 Hell oh, Elizabeth, Today I want to talk to you 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:50.800 about highly valuable footwear. Okay, I'm talking about Air Jordans 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:51.160 of course. 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:52.600 Yeah. 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:54.920 Now you know I love the retro ones. I'm old school, 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.040 of course I do but how about you. Have you 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:58.800 ever owned a pair of Jordan's. No, I's not you 0:03:58.800 --> 0:03:59.640 ever wanted to own a. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.640 Pair of jord Not really. They're high tops, right, some are? 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:05.160 Most are all? Yes? They are? 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.760 Yeah, I don't know it really. I'm not a Nike person. 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:10.080 I'm an Adidas person. 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:11.680 Oh, you have brand loyalty. 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:16.080 I keep them in business Adidas. 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.120 Yeah, you and Jonathan Davis from. 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:22.000 Corn completely sure. But yeah they they fit my feet 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.920 the best and they're the coolest looking shoes. So yeah, 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:25.760 I'm not really at it. 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:27.600 Did the Beast boys turn you on to Adidas? So 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.400 you found them on your own day? 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:32.680 No? 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:35.280 I mean I had. There's pictures of me as like 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:39.080 a three or four year old with the coolest looking 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.920 blue with yellow stripes. 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:44.599 Yeah, I know that what they're talking about. 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:49.400 And it was, you know, lifelong love after that. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.159 Found foot in happiness and never look back. 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:55.520 It is preposterous how many pairs of shoes I own, 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.120 and then the percentage that are Adidas, especially cause you 0:04:58.120 --> 0:04:59.480 only have two feet, right? 0:04:59.560 --> 0:04:59.680 Ye? 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:01.200 Well that you know of. 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:05.919 Now, are you? You are familiar though with like shoe 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.279 beast culture and the Jordan's. 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.480 I used to live nearby a place that was like 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:15.520 a shoe imporium, but not like pale as shoe sores. 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.479 It was like a cool guy tennis shoe place. Ah. Okay, 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:21.839 they had some good stuff, but you'd see like people 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.680 lining up at a supreme store. Yeah pretty much. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.200 Okay, Well you know this, when a physical object gets 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:29.919 coveted the way that Jordan's are coveted, as we both know, 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.040 that means crime. Yes, so typically when it comes to 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.520 stolen Jordan's, one might think of say street crime, right, 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.359 like stick up kids. But well, for instance, back in 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.520 twenty eighteen, I found a story there was this uh 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.360 in East Flushings in Queens. You can know in New York. 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.960 Huh it was. It was like meltdown May right, seventeen 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:49.039 year old kids walking along as blocking Queens. He's on 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.720 Quin's Avenue if you are familiar with the area. White 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:55.839 car pulls up alongside him, sedan, driving slowly because bad 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.560 men inside a clock in this kid seventeen year old 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.400 kids shoes are like, ooh, what's of them? Now? He's 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:04.560 rocking a pair of Jordan's worth two thousand dollars. 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:08.200 Two thousand dollars, Like yeah, those are expenses, like high 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.680 heels digit shoes. 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:10.960 I don't. 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:15.159 Yeah, what the two thousand dollars. 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.080 Jordan giving like old sex and the city shoes don't 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:18.000 even right? 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.720 I have no idea. You better be running real fast. 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.440 These kids were not kids. These men in the car, 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.159 they knew those were two thousand dollars Jordan's gold on. No, 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.159 they just recognize the kicks and how valuable they were. 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.600 So the car pulls over. Three men hop out the 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:34.960 white sedan, which for some reason, I imagine does a 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.800 Nissan Ultima. Anyway, the three men they run up on 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.200 the seventeen year old kid. One of the muggers grabs 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.280 a kid from behind yanks them down to the sidewalk right. Meanwhile, 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:45.400 the other two muggers they come around in front of him. 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.960 They grab his feet and just yank his shoes off 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.680 his feet. They didn't even untie him, just right off 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.640 his feet. Oh no, I had to hurt. So then 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.279 once they got the shoes off, they run back to 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.880 the white sedan, but their stolen booty take off gone right. 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.880 The kids like, what the hell, oh man? And what 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.000 are the muggers doing next to Elizabeth? This is why 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.160 I wanted to tell you this story. Yeah, not even 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.280 a half hour later, these three men, same guys, they 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.000 head into a shoe reseller in the same neighborhood. One 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.000 of the employees at the shoe reseller ended up telling 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:14.880 the story to The New York Post and they said, 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.080 and I quote, they tried to sell them to us. 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.480 It just seem like a normal transaction. They didn't stutter. 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:21.080 They just told me they wanted to sell it. They 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:22.560 asked how much could I get for these? 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:24.280 Were they still warm? 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.600 Pretty much? Sell it socks in them. So the shoe 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.280 reseller employees, right, they take these stolen Jordan's. They inspect 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.040 them to see what they might be worth. They compare 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.600 them to a similar model. They do the quick shoe check. 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.640 Right at first, the jeorde look good, But the closer 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.920 they inspect, the more they noticed little telling details an 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:44.840 expert would see, as he put it, quote, cheaper material, 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.280 The stitching was different. So the shoe reseller employee, now 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:50.040 it goes back to the three muggers. It has to 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.040 tell them the bad news quote, they're fake. We can't 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:56.240 buy them. Now. The street muggers remain optimistic because even 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:57.880 if the Jordan's are fake, they're like, well, they must 0:07:57.880 --> 0:07:59.560 be worth something. So how much were you guys pay 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.520 for some fake Jordan's. The shoe reseller point now is 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:06.760 to inform them zero dollars. Yeah, because it's a fake, 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:09.480 that's a direct quote. Oh No, that kind of Air 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:12.360 Jordan based crime is the old school version right now, 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.400 these days thieves, muggers, street criminals, they've moved on to 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:19.400 much bigger shoe crimes. Okay, whoa, yeah, First, since I 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.640 know you're not really a hype beast tuned into the 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:22.880 latest price trends in. 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.560 Colourway beast, baby, the air Jordan's. 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:27.600 I know you don't know the market, right, so I 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.760 gotta give you a sense of just how valuable Air 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.800 Jordan's are on the black market and how valuable they 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:36.400 are on the auction block. So original Air Jordan once 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.080 they were designed by this guy, Peter Moore, famous, right 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.640 they drop in eighty five, nineteen eighty five for sneaker heads. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.560 They remain a coveted shoe. The originals they were red 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:47.640 white black high tops. 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:49.040 I remember that, yeah right, Okay? 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.959 Now, according to Southerby's in twenty twenty three, a pair 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.880 of the Nike Air Jordan one og high Chicago's was 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.839 valued at thirty two thousand dollars. 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.560 Thirty two thousand. Well, I mean it's the kind of 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:05.360 the impetus of oh yeah, this whole completely. 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.000 But also you got to like keep those shoes in 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:10.599 like a climate control and environment because the glues deteriorate 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.080 and then the shoe just lifts off from the sore. Yeah. 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:14.280 I have a couple of shoes like that that I 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:15.559 tried to go back to. It was like, oh, this 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:17.080 is why you can't wear a twenty year old shoit. 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.200 I've totally done that. You put the shoes on, you're like, 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.920 oh yeah, and then you take two steps. 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:22.440 She just gives up. 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:26.560 Soles are behind exactly. It's all crumbly, that's the thing. Yeah. 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:28.959 So these people they're not usually wearing them either. They 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:30.080 just keep them in a box. 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.600 Some people put them up on their walls like art. 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.360 They're like little shelves and you'll see a shoe, or 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.800 they'll have like glass cases. They have all the shoes 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:40.480 and in the glass cases. Oh yeah, no for the collectors. 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.240 Back in twenty fifteen, wrapper Eminem did a collab with 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:44.880 work wear brand car Heart. 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:45.520 Uh huh. 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.160 They put out this custom line of air Jordan Force 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:49.800 they were just a handful of pairs though. 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:51.440 Wait, than it was with Nike too. 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:54.240 Yeah, it's Nike, Carhart and Eminem coming together to make. 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.080 These right tricehup exactly. 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:57.800 So it's a handful of pairs that they create for 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.839 Eminem and his family. But then he asked them to 0:09:59.880 --> 0:10:02.440 make ten pairs. They were gonna be sold on eBay 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.200 for a benefit for the Marshall Masers Foundation and the 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.720 money would go to a music school at Michigan State. Okay, 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.200 so this pair of Nike Air Jordan four Retro Eminem 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.680 car Hearts that did make it out to the market, 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.000 of these ten, they will run you twenty one thousand 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:18.160 dollars eight hundred and fifty Wow. 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:18.480 Yeah. 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.440 Over on the shoe reseller stock x, they report their 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.160 their most expensive shoes, right you know that place? 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:29.080 Yeah, I got I got a pair of like sticker 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:32.800 sold sambas from and like the limited edition color release 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:33.680 that I nice. 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.240 You know, maybe a little shoe best are there but 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:37.360 free and it. 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.240 Has like a little tag on it they authenticate that 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.360 is true? Have you actually? You and I have a 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:46.679 mutual friend Abby Lien though, who's an authenticator? This fascinating stuff, 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:47.920 interesting business. 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.600 And being able to spot a counterfeit from distance. 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:50.800 Huh so cool. 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:53.480 So these stock x One of they had. One of 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.640 the second most expensive Jordan's I found that they had 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.520 ever sold, was a pair of Jordan Eleven's, the premium 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:02.240 Derek Jeters. The Peters, Yeah, the Yankees shortstop. He's a 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.439 Hall of Famer, right, So Nike wanted to celebrate their 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.360 partnership with Jeter, so they made him a pair of shoes, 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.679 not his shoes, because his shoes suck. But no one 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.760 wants a pair of Jeter Eleven's, right, So hell, I'd 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.520 rather have a pair of Costco Kirkland Elevens personally, right. 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:17.160 Oh yeah. 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.040 But Nike was like, hey, Jeter, how about we make 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.360 you your very own Jordan's. And Jeter was like, bet, 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:21.960 let's do it. 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.400 It's like I wish I were Michael Jordan's pretty much. 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.920 So they made them five pairs of these custom Air 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:31.560 Jordan Retro Premium Derek Jeters. Now they make them available 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.280 to the public. The shoes were sold out of a 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.720 pop up shop a little ways away from Yankee Stadium 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.400 to celebrate his Hall of Fame induction. They didn't sell 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.160 the shoes directly though. They held a raffle and the 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.800 winners got a pair of these Air Jordan eleven Derek 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:47.920 Jeter specials. One pair got resold on stock X. I 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:49.200 want to guess how much they were worth? 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.480 Yeah, no, just tell me twenty three thousand dollars. 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.000 Yeah. There is also a difference because if you want 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:56.520 to get your hands on a pair of Air Jordan's 0:11:56.600 --> 0:12:00.280 that Michael Jordan actually wore in a game, Oh stay, 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.920 you can buy those two. Yeah, like he put his 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:04.680 stank on them in them and you can. 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.800 Have that in owning, you hit the side and all 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.240 the foot the sank juices come up. Now they powder 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:09.800 them up front. 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:10.440 Oh, I gotcha. 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:10.760 You know. 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.000 Now these are much much more expensive, obviously because Air 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:17.120 Jordan put his blessed foot inside now Elizabeth. In nineteen 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:20.160 ninety seven, the Chicago Bulls were in the finals facing 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.800 John Stockton, Cocoll Malone right, and in Utah Jazz. It 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.240 was Game five. Bad news for the Bulls was Jordan 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.720 had the flu. But if you know anything about Michael Jordan, 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.280 you know he's gonna will himself into greatness and threw 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.680 the get a win. Right. They call it the flu 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.520 game because he had thirty eight points. The Bulls won. Right. Now, 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.320 the shoes he was wearing in that legendary Game five 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.000 of the ninety seven finals, he decided to give away. 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.720 He gave the shoes to a ball boy for the 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.960 Utah Jazz. For the Jazz, yeah, because it was in Utah. 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.000 So here's what he is his own. 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.160 Yeah. But he like me and Joe Greendam, He's like, hey, kid, 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:53.880 here's my shoes. 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:54.600 Fun for him. 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.440 Yeah. So the kid, Preston Truman, he kept the shoes 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.640 from this legendary game and then eventually, you know, he 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:01.360 had to I don't know. He went to college. He 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.000 hears the siren call of the market. He resells the shoes. 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.240 I want to guess how much that pair of Air Jordan. 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.280 Twelves went for nine million dollars? 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.719 It was one hundred and four thousand dollars. WHOA, Yes, 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:14.080 that paid for college. I imagine they were resold again 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.400 at the time. Now they were resold again recently. Now 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:19.040 we want to guess how much those same shoes were 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:20.360 worth in twenty twenty three. 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:23.920 Uh, two hundred thousand, try one point. 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:25.000 Three eight million dollars? 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:25.560 What? 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:26.199 Yeah? 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.880 Who bought that? Who? Has that kind of change. 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.760 I have spent on somebody wealthy that I do not know. 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:33.520 I did not look up who bought Kennies. 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.320 I wanted over a million dollars for a pair of tennis. 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:39.959 Dude, that's nothing. The Air Jordan thirteen's nicknamed bread The 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:42.640 Jordan wore those in the next year in the ninety 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:44.840 eight NBA Finals in Game two, which is one of 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:48.160 the last games he ever played for the Chicago Bulls. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.640 They get resold they're the most money ever to exchange 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:53.720 hands for a pair of Jordan because everybody loves the breads, 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:55.560 and then he wears them on this like last season, 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.960 right right, So in twenty as a Bull. In twenty 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.720 twenty three, the ninety eight game worn Air Jordan thirteen 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:05.040 sold for two point two million dollars. 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:06.640 Who bought those? 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:07.640 I don't know. 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.920 Chancellor Rapper, I have no idea. 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:14.600 No, he's from Chicago, so but these are wild, right, 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:16.960 And Elizabeth, this is just the tip of the iceberg. 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.000 I wanted you to understand how coveted these shoes are 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:20.080 before we get to the crime. 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.640 So I'm starting to understand this is wild. I had 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.000 no idea they were that valuable. 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:25.960 Oh, and it's just only a skyrocket. In the last 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:27.120 ten years, I've. 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.960 Seen pictures of like the knockoff ones from Timu or whatever. Yeah, 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.360 the Air Jordan guy isn't really like Air Jordan's. This 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:36.080 is just someone who's walking. 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.040 Not holding up a basketball. He just has his hand raised. 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:40.600 Totally a class. 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.480 I love knockoffs, I know you really do you? 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.720 Also you love that guy does the TEAMO shoe reviews. 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.800 Right, Yeah, he's a little like the first ones. First 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:50.880 couple of times, I like that's good. Then after that 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:56.200 you're like, there's gotta be other stuffing for you to 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:56.920 branch out. 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.480 Let's take a little break, well, ice off our shoulders 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.720 and get back. Will dive into the Air Jordan based 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:25.640 crimes and trust they get a hell ridiculous nice or 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.920 back Elizabeth, get ready for more Air Jordan's based crimes. 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:32.800 Totally okay. This year, earlier this year, earlier this month, 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:37.440 February twenty twenty five, a business in Massachusetts was investigated 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:41.240 for Air Jordan related crimes. The shop is called Family 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:45.560 Sneaker House Love It Yes, located in wonderful Milford, Massachusetts. 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:47.880 The local cops I's already getting these tips at Family 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:51.760 sneaker house was selling counterfeit Jordan's. So the cops investigated, 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:55.960 and what do they find, Elizabeth, twelve hundred counterfeit items 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:57.600 in the family sneaker house. 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.360 That's a lot. That's heavy inventor. 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.840 Total value two hundred thousand dollars of counterfeit goods. The 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.640 shop owner had eight hundred and ninety five pairs of 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:06.640 fake air Jordan's. 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:07.600 Wow, that's a lot. 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.120 That's a lot. Eight nine. I had eighty nine pairs 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:14.280 of counterfeit yeasies, oh, the Kanye shoes, Yeah, made by 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:17.640 Adidas formally, and he also had forty eight pairs of 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:22.320 phony Adidas and nine pairs of fake as Pumasuma. Yeah, 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.040 like nine pairs, Like I don't know who they were, 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.320 probably me named at me. Then, So it turns out 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:30.640 this shop owner had no idea the merchandise was fake, 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.320 or so he claimed, but he was selling it as legit. 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.880 He was buying his products from a Chinese distributor who 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.480 sold him the fake sneakers. So I did a little 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.760 digging into this counterfeit sneaker market to see how big 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:45.960 this reportedly billion dollar business is. Yeah, Elizabeth, let me 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:47.960 tell you the knockoff game is a booman? 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:48.840 Is it now? 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.040 Back in twenty eighteen, also in New York, five men 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:56.040 busted for running a counterfeit sneaker operation running knockoffs from 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.720 China into the Port of Newark between January twenty sixteen 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.960 and July twenty eighteen. They shipped forty two containers filled 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:05.960 with fake air Jordans when they. 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:07.360 Were busted containers. 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.439 Yes, the men had almost a half million dollars of 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.400 goods sitting around, all fake Jordan's cooling in a warehouse. 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:15.919 Half million just when they got busted. So they've been 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.280 going through this, right, that was not their whole stash. 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:18.760 Yeah. 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:22.000 The authorities estimated that the three hundred and eighty thousand 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:26.080 pairs of counterfeit Jordan's were worth seventy million dollars on 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.479 the black market, Oh my god, and the gray market 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:29.720 like family Sneaker House in. 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:31.439 Milford, Family sneaker House, love them. 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:31.720 Yeah. 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.679 So if you track the counterfeit air Jordans back to China, 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.520 you end up in the Fujan province, and which is 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:41.159 the beating heart of the phony sneaker market. Yeah, the 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:44.480 fake air Jordans made there are constructed in legitimate factories 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:47.720 then sold in bulk. Next, they are transported in miss 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:51.520 labeled boxes, so nobody knows transported to the middleman, because 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:52.760 who knows what's inside these. 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.800 Mislabel box the same factory as the real. 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:59.040 One, No, no other factories. They're not made in Nike factories. 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.320 They're made in a factory that makes shoes, and so 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.840 they may the Nike blanks that they've reversed. 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.320 Engineer, got it, got it? Because you know, if it's 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.720 not from the Fujon province, it's just sparkling Jordan's. 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:13.560 Exactly sparkling footwear. Now, the middlemen they amassed these shoe 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.320 boxes until they have enough for a shipment of fake sneakers. 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.199 Then they load all of the phony Nikes into a 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.160 shipping container and they send that to the Port of Newark, 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:24.800 or the Port of Long Beach, the Port of Oakland, 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.680 the Port of Seattle, Port of New Orleans, Port of Charleston. 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:29.320 You get the idea, Yeah. 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.280 All the major ports of the United States, where they 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:34.640 then get handled and distributed to middleman. Here that's where 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:37.920 the counterfeit Nike labels are now added to the knockoff 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.320 shoes so that they can't be picked up in translate. 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.240 Then once these blanks have the fake Air Jordan labels, 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:48.720 they're pushed into the US market for big, big money. Now, 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:52.439 you know, Chinese knockoffs are very much a thing. They have. 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.280 As I said, the folks who reverse engineer legit products, 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:58.199 they figure out way to make the knockoffs fake air Jordans. 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:00.000 That's one thing, right, yeah, but you know they're also 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:01.520 making things like fake bike. 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:04.080 Helmets, fake bike helmets, make baby. 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.320 Carriers, Like, it sucks for you if you learn that 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:08.720 you bought a phony bike helmet when your cranium is 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.240 bouncing off the blacktop and it's split. Yeah, or like 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:13.639 imagine you saved money the wrong way when your baby 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:15.720 slips out of the carrier and they are like, you know, 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:17.800 bouncing off the sidewalk. That sucks. 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:22.000 So what is just yeah, it has no safety features. 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.359 Well, it's just basically they don't care. It's just it's not. 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.280 Up to standard. Looks like a hell. 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.680 That's all it is. It's supposed to resemble the product 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:29.080 you want. 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:30.360 Cotton balls inside. 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:34.560 Pretty much this huge industrial counterfeit sneaker market is still 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:38.200 just one big aspect. All of the hundreds of millions 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.320 of dollars that are made off of Air Jordan crime, 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:43.720 not the brand Air Jordan, just crime. For instance, Elizabeth, 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:45.200 have you ever been have you been reading about these 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:48.400 great train hests of the twenty twenties, No train robberies 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.720 are back. Yeah, the crime wave of the nineteenth century 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:52.760 is new again. 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:54.320 I ain robbery. 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:59.440 Yeah, the thieves are focused on Air Jordan's yeah. Wow, yeah, 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.719 into this for you, and I learned that railroads are 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:07.200 ripe target. Like take Union Pacific freight lines right in California. 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:10.480 Union Pacific maintains about thirty two hundred miles of track. 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:14.080 Now in La County, the company has two hundred and 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:17.600 seventy five miles of track with sixteen hundred employees. That's 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.639 just La County. Now. La County happens to be obviously 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:24.919 a hub for a railroad based Air Jordan crimes. For instance, 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.000 recently in twenty twenty one, La County saw this rail 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:31.120 theft shooting up by about one hundred and sixty percent 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.639 in one year. Then came twenty twenty two, and you 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:37.359 remember there was this viral story that showed rail lines 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:40.000 leading out of La and the ground is just covered 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:43.280 with cardboard boxes and stuff pulled from the box cars. Yeah, 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:45.280 and there's like the thieves of like it. Basically it's 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:46.760 like a miles long mess. 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:48.400 It looks like this, right, oh my god. 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.919 Yeah right, So that really got attention to people of 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.919 like how bad this problem has gotten. Otherwise it's just 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.640 like insurance companies and the freight lines complaining about it exactly. 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:00.760 California is Governor Gavin Newsom. Now he's got to address 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.800 the train robbery. So Newsom goes out to the rail yard. 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.159 He goes out to pick up some trash, which, from 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:08.480 what I can tell, is his favorite photo op is. 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:12.720 Picking up trash. I applaud him. 0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:14.040 Got his technique down and everything. 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:17.399 You know, he's just not free to get his hands during. 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:20.560 Anyway, Coming to Newsome, he tells the Gathered reporters that 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:24.240 the viral images of the trash strewn rail lines just 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:27.080 outside the raiyard are quote images look like a third 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:28.920 world country. What you saw here in the last week 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:30.960 is just not acceptable. So I took off the suit 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:33.280 and tide and said I'm coming because I couldn't take it. 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.520 I can't turn on the news anymore. What the hell 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:36.240 is going on? 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:39.720 Yeah, gathering or you're governor, So he jumps in there, 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:40.600 He's like, what's going on? 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:42.840 Yeah, you can get the answers if any one of 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:44.840 us can get the answer. Now, if you're wondering like 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:47.160 I was, from what I remember from history class way 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:49.359 back in high school, I thought railroads were allowed to 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:52.879 hire their own police force. Turns out they are, yeah, 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:56.240 But as you often hear these days, there were budgetary cutbacks, 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:58.840 which means although Union Pacific is legally allowed to have 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:01.840 their own police force, they cut costs and don't have 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:05.679 the railroad cops necessary to protect their box cars, and 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.159 so they have to call in the like you know, 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:11.200 the La County Sheriffs LAPD to help them. So LA 0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:14.920 Police Captain Herman Urtado he told the La Times that quote, 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:18.399 Union Pacific from Yuma, Arizona to La has six people 0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:22.680 patrolling six people. Sixteen hundred people are in LA County work. 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:29.520 So they ask the local La County Police, the California 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:32.240 Highway Patrol, the La Sheriff's Apartment, anybody they can to 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:35.439 help out with patrols of the rail lines, the rail yards. 0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:37.840 But LA cops they got a lot of other priorities, 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:40.040 all right. So what happens is the LAPD sets up 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:44.679 temporary task force until the headlines go away, and Captain 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:47.119 Hurtado said, quote, it's like digging sand at the beach. 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:50.320 We set up a task force, we are making an arrest, 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:52.120 and then we see a quarter of a mile down 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:53.879 the track someone else taking merchandise. 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:54.640 Oh my god. 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:58.840 These days, Oh yeah, I'll get to that in a second. 0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:01.480 These days they've added drones to their task force. The 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:04.400 police have, yeah, not stop the train robbers, not one bit. 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:08.280 It's like waving, Yeah, what are now? The train burglary 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:11.280 Task Force of LAPD keeps getting called back to into action, 0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:13.399 as I said, right. So, in twenty twenty four, The 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:16.160 New York Times starts covering this growing trend of train 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:20.520 robberies in the Southwest. The Times they speak with Joe Chavez. 0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:24.000 He's now in charge of detectives working the latest task force. Right, yeah, 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:25.800 So he tells The New York Times about this one 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:30.600 particular land pirate named Victor Lamas. Oh Lamas no relation 0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:31.520 to Fernando or. 0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:33.760 Lorenzo, Lorenzo's brother. 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:35.720 Yeah, no, he's just a train robber. It's just no 0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:38.359 stranger to the police. Now, is Joe Chavez we call 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:41.240 quote he said that that was the best feeling he'd 0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:43.520 ever had jumping on the train while it was moving. 0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:46.520 It was euphoric for him. Now, what he means by 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:48.480 that is, obviously train's going slow enough for you to 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:50.600 run alongside, or you're right till the train's gone fast 0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:53.040 and you just jump on it. Huh Okay, so you know, 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:54.040 relatively fast. 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:56.760 So dangerous, Yeah, so dangerous trains? 0:23:56.960 --> 0:24:01.240 Oh yeah, you think. During one of his mini arrests 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:03.760 Lamas told the cops how it was that he knew 0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:06.280 which box cars were the good ones to break into 0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:10.440 because they all look alike to the untrained eye pretty much. 0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:12.879 I got were very trained to nose, Like, look at 0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:14.320 this thing. Do you know how many detectors I got? 0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:18.520 The say, exactly, so, he tells him though, he'd actually 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.080 studied the placards that the rail lines used, right those 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:24.000 diamond cars, and then he learned about the various locking 0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:26.639 devices that they used. He researched the locks, and he 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.640 learned that they had upgraded the locks, which usually meant 0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:32.159 like that's where the high dollar cargo is. And then 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.920 he researched how to break the upgraded locks, which turned 0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:37.879 out he just needed a pair of bowl cutters. So 0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:40.479 so much for security upgrade. So Lamis though he had 0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:42.920 a partner for his train robberies, he worked with his girlfriend. 0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:46.879 They would their modus operandi was to get up and 0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:48.879 get out of La get set up in the Inland 0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:52.280 Empire South that's like southeast of La Proper. They'd find 0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:56.120 a motel located near the railroad tracks. Then when night came, 0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:58.080 they'd go to work. So what they would do is 0:24:58.080 --> 0:24:59.960 they'd break into railcars and they just take the stole 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:02.879 and booty back to their budget motel room, divvy it up, 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:04.720 and then go this goes to the fence, this goes 0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.040 to me or whatever. Right, it was such an easy 0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:09.000 way to earn a living that Lamas told the cops. 0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:12.439 As Detective Shavis recalls, and I quote he straight out 0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:14.600 told me, he goes Detective Shavist, I'm never gonna stop 0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:15.920 doing it. 0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:20.479 Why shouldn't did he? Was he wearing Jordan's when he's 0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:22.160 like I can just I can afford it. 0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:24.840 Yeah, just like has throw away like Jordan's. He wears 0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:25.639 once and then that's it. 0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:28.000 Yeah, I've got like shoes that are like my gardening 0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:30.000 shoes that are by the back door, and just I 0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:33.439 wouldn't wear them in public. Beat. 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:34.720 He has the opposite of that. 0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:37.439 He's got like he's got shoes are so clean that 0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:41.480 you well, you know what the reason they're so expensive. 0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:42.080 They make you. 0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:43.960 Run so fast and play so well. 0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:47.040 You just someone and then they're like here. His girlfriend 0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:48.800 was like, run for me and let me see how 0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:52.119 fast you're going to Oh my goodness, you run so 0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:54.960 much faster than the other shoes. You got to wear those. 0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.199 You're hanging out with your nephew a bunch of probably 0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:02.400 in late twenty twenty two, my man Lamas, he gets caught, 0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:05.080 of course, his girlfriend caught. Now while his girlfriend, she 0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:08.320 gets tried, convicted, sentence and is now serving her sentence 0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:12.280 in prison, Lamas still on the lamb. Male, Oh yeah, 0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:15.320 so he did it. Was facing eight felony charges. He 0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:17.320 goes He's like, oh yeah, yeah, whatever, man. Because he's 0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.320 not a non violent offender, he's able to post a bail. 0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:21.600 He stops showing up for his court dates. 0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:21.800 Him. 0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:25.640 Man, he's in the wind. He's caught, right, the cop said, 0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.359 like a detective. Shavez, for one, is convinced that he 0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:31.560 will see his train hopping Moriarty again in the future. 0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:33.840 He's all like, I have a feeling I will see 0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:36.960 him again a direct quote. Oh yeah, yeah, perhaps, bro. Now, 0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:40.000 if you readlove Me on this new wave of train robberies, 0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:42.560 you can easily see why some folks wouldn't want to 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:46.000 stop pulling off this land piracy, right, And he's just amazing. 0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:48.000 It's like and also hot. Damn do they make a 0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:50.719 mess doing it? Like I was reading about the trash 0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:52.639 not just from the outside of the rail yards in 0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:55.159 La County, but there's one train conductor was telling New 0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:57.359 York Times about how in southeast Arizona, in the middle 0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.920 of nowhere and just desert, he once drove his train 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:03.159 through like a quarter mile long trash heap. It was 0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:06.040 just strewn in the middle of nowhere. It was nothing 0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.159 but hundreds and hundreds of boxes of Nike sneakers and 0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:09.840 shoe boxes. 0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:11.919 So they don't even keep the box. 0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:12.840 They just throw it out. 0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.040 I mean, wouldn't she wouldn't it be easier to sell 0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:16.199 them if you have the box. 0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:17.600 I don't know, I'm not. 0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:19.720 I mean, and I gotta tell you something. 0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:21.520 Also, I think it's pretty easy to get a box. 0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.720 And really chaps my hide. G littering, I. 0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:26.120 Know it does why I brought it up. 0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:32.160 Makes it would make cheeses me off. This littering. No, 0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:34.560 but I mean for real though, the boxes. Is it 0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:36.159 just because it's cumbersome? 0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.320 Yeah, basically it's a unnecessary space. You can get a 0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:40.760 bunch of shoes in the back of a truck and 0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:43.359 you're throwing them into like usually vans, and trust that's 0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:43.639 going to. 0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:46.640 Get them all scratched up and dirty. Well, yeah, it's 0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:47.600 like in the desert. 0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.119 It's like if you're doing this, it's like dealing with grain. 0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:52.360 You just want the bulk of them to be cleaned outside, 0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:53.760 a little dirt. 0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:59.800 On them, then. 0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.800 Agriculture, they're just harvesting it like grain. They got a 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:01.480 isle of shoes, right, But. 0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:04.399 Is are you going to get like some generic fruit 0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.399 or are you going to get like top you're. 0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:09.480 Too used to shopping? Yeah, exactly. 0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:15.080 Place let's say wait, yeah, yes, let's let's say they 0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:18.600 had one of those Costco vacuum sealers in the truck. 0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:21.760 Oh that's good, chuck the box. Someone else was like 0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:24.200 each thing in a vacuum. 0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:26.879 I like that someone who has a Costco vacuum seeler. 0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.560 I can tell you it's not that quick. Of a process. 0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:31.720 That's something you can do on the go. 0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:34.160 Is the sound of me really? 0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:37.399 Okay? Good to know? So I call you. That's what 0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:39.520 that sound is. I always wondered. 0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:45.680 I'm sucking up some rubas. That's how I talked about 0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.480 sealing my meat, vacuum sealing some ars. 0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:53.400 Who, Elizabeth, you have a very like whiskey stained voice 0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:54.240 when you're on the phone. 0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:56.000 Yeah, it's only on the phone. 0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:58.200 No, Elizabeth. The Great Air Jordan train heightt of twenty 0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:00.720 twenty four, Yeah, are the ones I wanted to tell 0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:04.040 you about. That's why we're here today. So as you know, 0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:06.160 there are all all sorts of train lines. There's the 0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:10.560 Southern Pacific, Union Pacific, Norfolk Southern, the CSX. There's a 0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:11.720 bunch of freight train lines. 0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:12.080 Right. 0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:15.280 One of the freight train lines is BNSF. Oh yeah, 0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.880 that sounds for Burlington Northern Santa Fe. Yeah, now, which 0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:20.960 means it's the parent company of the Santa Fe Railroad, 0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.920 which you'll probably remember the locomotives red yellow very much. 0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:27.000 So Okay, Anyway, these days, BNSF has become the ready 0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:29.800 target for Jordan thieves. They are the go to one 0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.560 to hit apparently in twenty twenty four, there were ten 0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:36.240 railroad heights over a one year long period and train 0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:40.040 robbers stole away with Nike sneakers. In all but one robbery, 0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:43.200 they were all against BNSF. The value for these ten 0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:46.720 train heights was two million dollars wow. In January, in 0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:51.160 a town called paren, Arizona, robbers struck a BNSF freight train. 0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:55.200 They stole nineteen hundred and eighty five pairs of Nike sneakers. 0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:57.080 I have to assume the nineteen hundred and eighty five 0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.240 pairs issues was just a coincidence and not like a 0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:02.120 whole Jordan sh They always ship Jordan's in lots of 0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:05.000 one nineteen eighty five, well, which is the first year 0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:07.200 of the shoes, right like that silly. 0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:09.400 They ran out of room in the van. Yeah, and 0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:10.840 they had to leave some behind. 0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:11.640 Oh maybe that's it. 0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.280 They left behind the really thieves. 0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:17.480 Are really in deluxuly really big one the size eighteen. 0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:20.840 Yeah, the size eighteens and the size fours they left, Okay, 0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:24.440 And because you can't sell you can move those. Well. 0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:26.960 The one Jordan one Jordan train heightst was worth four 0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:30.480 hundred and forty thousand dollars day yeah. Yeah, so you 0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:31.680 see why they do it right. 0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:32.080 Yeah. 0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.160 Now, the way these modern train robbers know which trains 0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:38.000 and which box cars can contain the highly valuable Jordans 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:40.760 is rather simple. They also use lots of insider info 0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:42.720 because obviously they have the money to pay sure and 0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:46.120 then and obviously there's experience you can get to recognized patterns. Yeah, 0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.360 but sometimes they have friends who work at the ports, 0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.040 who work at the warehouses the trucking companies, and they 0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:53.400 tell them I got a lot of Jordan's coming in, 0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:55.480 and then they get tipped out right, and they tell 0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:58.480 the thieves and boom right. Once the thieves identify a 0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:00.680 train they want to hit, they follow the train out 0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:05.440 of La East, deep into the desert where lonesome, old, 0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:09.520 forgotten towns roll past out there, where no one can 0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:13.400 quickly respond to a train icet. The land pirates track 0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:15.840 a train down when it baby slows down for a 0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.000 scheduled stop in one of these small towns, or when 0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:19.760 it passes through a section of town where it has 0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.520 to slow down just to get through the town. Sometimes 0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:25.440 they also rely on sabotage. They'll break a switchbox so 0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:26.480 the train has to stop. 0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:34.400 You're just like this Sepi tone robberies now the most 0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:37.040 daring among them will board the train while it's still rolling. 0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.120 As I've told you earlier, they'll jump on while it's 0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:40.640 still rolling. And that's what it got it difficult because 0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:43.400 you gott to match speed and so forth. Now, regardless 0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.920 of how they climb aboard, though the goal is typically 0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:49.120 the same. The train robbers cut a brake hose, again, 0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:52.880 forcing the train to stop, and once it does, the 0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:55.800 thieves make their moves. They board the train like pirates 0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:58.360 of yore, and once aboard the train they get to work. 0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:00.520 They break the locks, they peel open the box cars. 0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:02.960 Then they go shopping. They toss the boxes out of 0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:06.240 the train cars onto the desert floor or to the 0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:08.680 more likely to their criminal partners to load into the truck. 0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:12.640 Huh yeah wow yeah no. Also, as you asked before, 0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.320 you have to understand, freight trains in America are insanely long. 0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:19.080 Like there's no laws for tailing how long trains can be. 0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:20.840 So the company is looking to cut costs have made 0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:24.160 them longer and longer stuck. On the other side of 0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:27.120 they have less and less staff now to run them, 0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:29.280 and this results in freight trains that can be up 0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:33.640 to three miles long. Oh yeah, So that means that 0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:35.800 the thieves time it right and they pick a car 0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:38.600 far enough back. Yeah, they could be two miles behind 0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:40.320 the train crew that is supposed to go out and 0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:40.840 find them. 0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.840 And in the movie of this, I'm imagining it's Michael 0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.800 Jordan as the conductor of the train and he gets 0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.480 the alert that the brake's been Oh man. 0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:53.959 Kids, this is basically happy hunting for land pirates out 0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.160 there in the desert. And also these crews don't really 0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:57.480 want to get out because a lot of these guys 0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:00.200 are junior members of Mexican cartel. 0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:02.760 Oh that's good point, that's who they're doing it. 0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:05.719 They have sometimes like assault rifles, you know, they're not 0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:08.200 just like and sometimes they're just seventeen year olds with 0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:10.680 no weapons whatsoever. They do not know what they're gonna 0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:11.400 be getting, right, But. 0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:13.560 If you want to move a lot of products like that, 0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:16.200 then like having a cartel connection is oh. 0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.400 Yeah, you say, you need a good fence, right exactly. Now, 0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:23.680 twenty twenty four, there were sixty five thousand railroad robberies 0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.960 and thefts. Sixty three thousand, Yes, and that was a 0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:30.920 forty percent increase over the year twenty twenty three. Yeah, 0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:33.120 so now you've got a full scale take a little break, 0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:35.560 and when we get back, I will dazzle and amaze 0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:59.920 you with more Jordan Crimezle Elizabeth zaren, you haven't fun 0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.560 in the lonesome wild West Jordan. 0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:05.920 Nextaposition of the Air Jordans in the. 0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:07.120 Isn't that great? 0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:08.320 It's a great image. 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.400 It's is such a fun like very American image. The 0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:14.200 Jordan's the train robbery out in the wild West. And 0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.440 then the time juxtaposition. 0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:18.520 Is just like, are you going to write the screen flip. 0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:20.360 Book where you put the different tops and bottoms on? 0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:21.600 Totally? 0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:24.320 I would actually wouldn't make a good screenplay. 0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:25.839 You mentioned, right, Dibbs for you. 0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:29.120 Well, Elizabeth, for you, I would say I was going 0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:31.359 to continue telling you facts and stats about these great 0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:35.440 Air Jordan train robberies, but I'd like you to experience. Yeah, 0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.239 so I'd like you to close your eyes and I'd 0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:37.640 like you. 0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:40.239 To close to picture it. 0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:43.239 It is around five in the afternoon into desert, and 0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:47.000 you feel a hot breeze against your face because Elizabeth, 0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:49.799 you are a foam jack in the box head shove 0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:51.920 down on the end of an antenna of a stolen 0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:55.360 white van. You bob and sway around in the wind, 0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:58.640 the wind generated by the speeding white van. It's going 0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.399 around seventy five, maybe eighty, I don't know. You don't 0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.680 know because you can't see the odometer as the unmarked 0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:07.760 white van trails after what looks to be a miles 0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.719 long train. But you are not one of the primary 0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.160 chase cars. You're there with the van that's there to 0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:16.120 catch the halt, which means you have a perfect vantage 0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:19.880 to watch the whole train robbery go down. You watch 0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.359 as two of the chase cars pull alongside the train. 0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:25.319 The dust clouds they leave are tremendous. They paint the 0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:28.160 desert sky with a dull brown haze. As the dust 0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:31.320 spreads out above you, one of the land pirates leaps 0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:33.680 from a chase vehicle. It's like a scene from Fast 0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:36.560 and the Furious, which you've never seen. The bandit lands 0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:39.359 his leap of fate, and with a well practiced hand, 0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:42.160 he draws a knife from its sheath and slices the 0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:44.800 air brake. The break is found. With the air pressure 0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:48.160 escaping the severed line, you see the train lurch and 0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:52.319 begin to slow the conductors following the emergency protocol for 0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:55.040 loss of air pressure in the breaking system. The chase 0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.440 vehicle stay alongside the train until it comes to a 0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:01.520 slow and final stop. Your antenna whips around as the 0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.960 white van moves into position along the stopped train. If 0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.000 you could, you would choke on all the dust. But 0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:12.200 you don't because you're an inanimate jack in the box bobblehead. Instead, 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:15.719 you watch the land Pirates with awe as they move 0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:19.399 with a timed precision. One train robber identifies the box 0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:22.719 cars of interest. Another leapfrost up and breaks open the 0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:25.440 lock with a slide of the heavy door. The box 0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:29.920 car reveals its treasures. The thieves duck inside. When they emerge, 0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:33.239 they come out with handfuls of boxes with that familiar 0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:37.200 swoosh logo, The boxes of Nike they loaded into the 0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:39.880 white van. You're a white van. You watch the team 0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:43.200 empty the box car of its Jordan's, and then onto another, 0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:46.480 and then another. When the land Pirates are convinced they've 0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:49.520 stolen all the best booty, they load back up into 0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:52.040 their stolen chase vehicles to go tearing off into the 0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:55.600 Mohave desert. Not a bad day's work. You think to yourself, 0:36:55.760 --> 0:37:00.439 maybe this outlaw life is for you now. Elizabeth, as 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:05.240 one retired sheriff's deputy described as growing trend of train robberies, 0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:07.480 it's just like the old wild West. It's crazy. 0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:08.800 It's crazy. 0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:09.880 You know. 0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:12.640 He's always wanted to say stuff like that, so I'll 0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:15.160 just add in it's crazy, but with a heavy splash 0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:18.759 of piracy, which I love. Yeah, but this is like 0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:20.640 in a desert instead of a vast sea. 0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:21.719 It's very mad. 0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:22.040 Max. 0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:24.560 Well, they say, yeah, definitely, but like with the Sahara, 0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.040 they say, it's just a sea of sand. Like I'm 0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:29.520 seeing this. I'm dude, I'm in it. 0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:35.120 Elizabeth, you've been to theave a bunch it stops camped there. 0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:39.480 Yeah, it's it's insane. We're actually about a hang out there. 0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:43.000 So uh oh yeah. Because five days after that great 0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:46.000 desert train robbery that I just told you about, the 0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:49.160 freight train line BNSF phoned the police again and were like, 0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:51.560 you're not gonna believe this. And cops were like, did 0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:55.200 it happen again? And BNSF was like, it happened again. 0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:59.520 It happened again, Elizabeth, this time in Amboy, California, now 0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:01.200 you may recognize that. 0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:02.400 Name, do you slightly. 0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:06.840 It's one of those picturesque abandoned towns in the Mahabi Desert. 0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:10.279 Right along the route of Root sixty six, A boy 0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.520 was home to a very famous diner with a crazy 0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:15.359 neon sign. The place is called Roy's. I'm sure you've 0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:18.360 seen pictures of it, the Roy's Motel and cafe. 0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:21.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, So that place was It's 0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:22.880 no boy. 0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:27.640 Pet place was the anchor of Amboy but unfortunately it closed. Yeah, 0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:29.719 and when the owner, the original owner, sold it. And 0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:34.240 then despite valiant efforts and investments from this dude, Albert Oukura, 0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.080 the guy who bought the original McDonald's and turned it 0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:39.919 into a museum, he tried to save this charming mid 0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:43.279 century ghost town located there on Root sixty six, but 0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:46.360 he found there was just not enough accessible potable. 0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:49.080 Water to run to issue out there. 0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:52.920 Yeah, Aboys located in the Mohave Desert. And there's a 0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:56.040 reason why we don't build in the Mohabi Desert. I mean, 0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.319 by its name, you should know it's a desert, but 0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:01.400 it's one of the most extreme in America. The Hovey 0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:04.560 Desert is where Death Valley is with that one. They 0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:06.520 just put it right there in the name. This place 0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:07.200 will kill. 0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:09.080 Your valley, Yeah, exactly, and you've. 0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:10.359 Been there, Oh my god, a bunch. 0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:11.240 Yeah, it's dope. 0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:12.840 I do. I love it, but I guess because I 0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:15.080 have a car and air conditioning, I can leave it easily. 0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:15.440 Well. 0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:19.120 They always have those like kind of stunt photos in 0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:22.200 the middle of the heat waves, the rangers out there 0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:23.920 looking like they're going to die and like it's one 0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:24.360 hundred and. 0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:26.800 Thirty people do legitimately time when they get out of 0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:28.879 their cars because it also they don't have enough salt, 0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:30.279 you know. Then they get out there drinking a bunch 0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:30.759 of water, and. 0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:34.520 People don't understand how much water you need because it's 0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:36.840 so they're not just to sweating that much. It's a 0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:37.439 dry heat. 0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:38.680 It's a dry heat to kill. 0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:40.600 It if you have all this evaporative cooling that your 0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:42.799 body's trying to keep up with, so you just any 0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:45.439 water you take in, you're giving out like twice as much. 0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:46.360 It's alchemy. 0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:47.880 I'm telling you, it's science. 0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:49.200 It's science, or what you said. 0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:51.920 Yeah, Now, five days after that train robbery I told 0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:56.000 you about in Little Amboy, population zero land pirates struck again, 0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:59.759 likely the same crew. Sheriff deputies from San Bernardino County 0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:01.919 were called to the tracks after reports of a train 0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:04.960 robbery were going down right. The responding deputies, they spot 0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:08.360 the unmarked white van out there in the middle of nowhere, 0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:11.400 looking suspicious as all hell, just driving through a section 0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:13.720 of the Mohave Basin. It was called like wonder Valley. 0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:16.279 There's nothing there, right, So the sheriff's deputies they throw 0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:18.880 on their lights. The blues and twos chase after this 0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:22.600 white van, and of course the white van accelerates, chases 0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:25.200 on Elizabeth. The sheriff's deputies they go nuts. They're like, 0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:27.200 we got nothing to do out here, so they give chase. 0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:29.799 There were a high speed chase across the desert floor. 0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.680 The cops chasing this unmarked white van must look like 0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:34.640 something out of like a movie about the Cartels, or 0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:37.360 like an episode of Breaking Bad. So the pursuit at 0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:39.600 last a while. The only trouble is the unmarked white 0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:43.680 van is in San Bernardino County. Yeah, it's the largest 0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:46.720 county in the United Stage if you leave out of Alaska. 0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.680 Now point is this white van. It ain't escaping the 0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:53.399 sheriff's deputies in the Mojave Desert. There's just nowhere to go. 0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:55.960 So the train robbers, though they try, Oh boy did 0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.360 they try, right up until they had a sand burm 0:40:58.400 --> 0:40:59.160 and got stuck. 0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:03.240 Right those deputies are driving like super charged total. 0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:06.840 Oh yeah, they're made for that environment. It's like eighthp. 0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:08.120 Trucks and the van. I mean. 0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:13.480 So at this point, even if you're driving like a crackhead, 0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.400 it's still no business. They will not do what you 0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:16.000 needed to do. 0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:16.440 Now. 0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:17.839 At this point, though, the two men are like, we're 0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:20.160 not giving up. So they flee the van on foot, 0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:22.879 trying to run across the desert Elizabeth, and. 0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:24.680 Then they just turned into skeleton. 0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:26.160 I don't know, hoping to run where I don't know, 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:26.920 to their deaths. 0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:31.200 They had to jump over the skeletons of the cartoons, 0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:37.879 skeletons like cattle that they had to jump over a tumbleweed. 0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:40.239 It was it was nuts. It's a text avery at that. 0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:41.520 It was a lot for them. 0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:43.839 Now, don't think that they knew that they were going 0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:45.800 to be able to go anywhere, Like, I don't know 0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:47.600 if they had a plan, but running from cops at 0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:50.240 this point was probably just instinct, so they're just doing 0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:52.560 it right. They made it pretty far because the cops, 0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:54.560 the Sheriff's deputies, they had to call out a chopper 0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:56.680 to run them down, and the helicopter did that. 0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:59.160 And mat about short orders, so they. 0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:01.560 Get caught in the dead. It turns out the purpse 0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:05.600 were kids, just two boys, sixteen and seventeen years old. Yeah, 0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:08.200 so apparently going in with the unmarked white panel van 0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:11.279 is the move for land pirates because they go down, 0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:13.600 they steal one of those, they steal a couple chase cars, 0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:16.400 have at it. Right, They keep going basically across Arizona 0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:19.520 and California estate lines in the Mahabi Desert, right because 0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:22.120 it stretches over both. Now in a town called Hackberry, 0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:25.759 a train had to execute this emergency stop after the 0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:28.680 sensors reported a loss of air pressure in the brake lines. 0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:31.600 And you know what that means, train robbers. So the 0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:34.960 bandits they strike the stopped train. They load their booty 0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:38.520 into the traditional unmarked white panel van. They flee the area, 0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:41.120 but yet again, sheriff's deputies spot them fleeing because they 0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:42.960 don't have anything to do and there's no cars out there, 0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:45.239 and they just see this white van driving and they're like, oh, 0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:47.160 let's go, just see what that guy's up to. And 0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:49.400 when they do, as I have made it clear to you, 0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:52.320 the Mahabi there's nothing out there, so they're like giving 0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:54.719 chase and then they eventually they try to flee. They 0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:56.759 catch up to the robbers and they discovered that these 0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:59.319 guys had stolen one hundred and eighty pairs of brand 0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:03.360 new Unreleaf Air Jordan Retro Legend blues. Oh yeah, the 0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:05.760 stolen hall Worth forty one thousand dollars. 0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:08.080 Wow, one hundred and eighty of them. 0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:11.360 Can you believe that's so? Another robbery of a BNSF 0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:14.600 train once again in yamp By Yampy, Arizona, which is 0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:16.839 a near Prescott, Arizona in the middle of the state, 0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:18.640 right smack in the middle of that. You know, the 0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:22.279 desert basin is basically a drained ocean floor right there, right, 0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:25.120 so just like left to dry out for millions of year. 0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:28.640 Arizona is so bleak to drive across. You know, I've complained. 0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:31.600 About it because you go from like either like if 0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.239 you're going east, you'd have that bleakness, and then you 0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:36.600 get to New Mexico, you're like, oh, look at this, 0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:38.320 that is something so beautiful. 0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:39.359 The land of enchantment. I get it. 0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:42.160 And then because like it's the quality of the sky is, 0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:46.719 don't when you're driving west, like this is so beautiful Arizona. 0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:47.520 Wait what happens? 0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:49.480 You got to get through Arizona to get to California. 0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:52.400 And if you're driving west anytime near sunset or the 0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:54.800 suns in your eyes, just pull over and shoot yourself. 0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:01.799 Not really good, but you know, dude, I have my 0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:04.560 eyes burned so bad one time. It just it's terrible. 0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:06.520 They make these things glasses. 0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:09.080 I've heard about it, you and my sister all right now, 0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:12.000 the place to be, Elizabeth, if you're looking to boost 0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:15.160 Jordan's from a box car is Arizona. That's the spot, 0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:18.200 even more than California because there's less of everything there. 0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:19.040 Yeah, it's true. 0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:21.360 So these four men they get busted after they robbed 0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:23.320 a train and they tried to get away with forty 0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:25.759 eight thousand dollars worth of Nikes. But in this case, 0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:27.640 the shoes weren't Jordan's thought. To mix it up a 0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:29.800 little bit for you, the band it stole a load 0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:34.279 of unreleased Nike dunk Low's Midnight navies. So there you go. 0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:36.680 According to court documents from a case filed in a 0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:39.640 federal court in Phoenix, there was this string of robberies 0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:43.080 of the BNSF trains in Arizona between April and June 0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:46.279 that netted the land Pirates a stolen booty worth three 0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:48.400 hundred and forty six thousand dollars. 0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:48.919 Wow. 0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:51.360 But the big daddy score in Arizona has to be 0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:54.360 the pair two BNSF trains that were hit outside of 0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:58.000 the towns of Kingmen and Seligmann. Yes. Now, those two 0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:01.000 train robberies were worth a combined six hundred and twelve 0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:04.400 thousand dollars. Two train robberies, all of it. Nike sneakers, 0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:09.440 no diamonds, no oil, They're not like no gold shipments. Yeah. 0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:11.879 That pair of that pair of train robberies, though, did 0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:15.240 eventually result in eight arrests. Now, there's this one Cato 0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:17.640 I've been waiting to tell you about. The authorities consider 0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:20.560 him a mastermind, a OG of the trained robbery game. 0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:24.440 His street name boyle Chicken in Spanish. Yeah, it's not 0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:29.279 the best boil. It's not the best street name, right, 0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:33.240 totally the crazy Chicken. But then again, if your street 0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:35.440 name is chicken like Boyo. It might have nothing to 0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:37.000 do with your character. It might just be the like, 0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:39.600 you know, you got named Boyo like a long time 0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:41.560 ago by somebody else, and it's because you were like 0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:43.480 as tall as a chicken. And now you can just 0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:45.640 go toe to toe with anybody. So like, just because 0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:49.040 someone's named chicken, oh, do not mess with them, especially 0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:50.600 if they're a street criminal named Boyle. 0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:53.920 Well if I think anyone with a street criminal names. 0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:56.440 That's what I mean. If you when you're keeping it 0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:58.520 and it's like a weird whack one, like it's like, 0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:00.399 oh man, you're gonna get your you. 0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:03.320 Know anyway, Yeah, they're like meat muffin. 0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:06.400 Yeah, you were ready to get your card pulled, so muffin. 0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:12.120 This is meat love Muffin and Muffin. They're twins. That's 0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:14.160 how we know them. Anyway. The government name of this dude, 0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:20.200 his name is Felipe Artro AVOs Mahiaa Avolosa. Now, the 0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:22.520 reasons that the cops consider him a mastermind is because 0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:25.920 Boyo employs a team of scouts to target trains. He 0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:28.239 also coordinates vehicles for his train ride. 0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:32.560 Little chicks, No, you're just gonna. 0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:35.960 Run with this sooo, he hires and he pays out 0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:38.319 his crew based on their stolen halls, and you can 0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:39.799 tell that he's been in the game a while because 0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:42.440 he's good. He also arranges a whole network offences, so 0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:44.719 he gets the stolen cars. He's paying his guys. He 0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:46.640 pretty much. I mean, if he gave him health insurance. 0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:49.359 This is like a good gig. So it also this way, 0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:50.719 as I said, we always want to get it. You 0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:52.400 want to have your fence locked down. You gotta be 0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:54.480 able to sell off your stolen goods. He's got a 0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:58.480 whole network, so he's golden. Right. But this is how 0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:00.839 you can last eleven years as a ringle. I said, 0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:02.640 eleven years because I know when it ends. 0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:04.719 Oh no, yeah, yeah. 0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:07.880 Are my favorite land pirate, our pirate captain. If you 0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:11.120 will up these land pirates. Boyo so Poil lasted until 0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:13.880 twenty twenty four, but he lasted right up until the 0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:17.320 California State law enforcements of HP Everybody and Homeland Security 0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:20.239 teamed up to bring down Poyo and so on Joan 0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:23.240 twentieth of last year. Agents from Homeland Security and California 0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:27.160 Law Enforcement Task forces. Right they executed search warrants on 0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:31.760 eleven different residents, is sixteen different storage units, and the authorities. 0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:35.359 They end up arresting forty three suspects into his Dude's network. Right, 0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:38.680 they recovered three million dollars of stolen goods that were 0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:42.200 intransit between fences and whatever, and they were obviously from 0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:45.959 the BNSF train robberies, all stolen nikes and so forth. 0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:48.799 Most of the boxes are Jordan's, but Poyo I would 0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:51.919 also Mahia, He Stombaf, stayed out of the drag net. 0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:54.960 He laid low, he hit out, He managed to evade 0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:57.359 the cops that were and the FEDS are hunting him down. 0:47:57.640 --> 0:48:00.400 When the cops executed a search warrant at the residence, 0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:02.800 but they believed he was located. They found no Boyo, 0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:06.240 but they did find seventy four cases of stolen nikes, 0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:10.400 one hundred and eight packs of socks, thirty five sock, 0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:13.920 thirty five pairs of shoes worth about ninety four thousand dollars, 0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:16.520 as well as ten stolen vehicles which were believed to 0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:19.440 have been used in prior train burglaries. In Yeah, my 0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:23.759 buddy style always wanted to have He's tell me if 0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:25.279 you ever got rich, the first thing he would do 0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:27.080 is he'd buy enough socks. He could always wear a 0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:29.160 fresh pair of socks each day and then throw them 0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:31.839 out the end of the day. That was that to him, 0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:35.279 was like, that's the that's it. Yeah, okay. So I 0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:37.920 think my man Poo He's had a similar view. He's like, 0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:40.239 I can afford a hundred eight socks, why not give 0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:40.680 that to me? 0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:41.640 Yeah? 0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:44.399 Yeah, because that's enough for two a week. 0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:45.600 Yeah, fifty two. 0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:47.640 Weeks, right, you know, one hundred and eight Sure. Anyway, 0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:51.239 despite all his slipperiness, the Mastermind Boyo was eventually tracked down. 0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:54.640 Cops got up to Poyo at a restaurant in Huntington Park, California. 0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:55.120 Oh yeah. 0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:56.960 At the time of his arrest, he was dining with 0:48:57.000 --> 0:49:00.960 another man. He had on him a Louis Vautone very nice, 0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:03.000 and the Louis Vuton handbag was one hundred and twenty 0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:06.440 thousand dollars in cash along with a ledger. The ledger 0:49:06.480 --> 0:49:08.879 contained a list of Nike products that had recently been 0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:12.640 stolen from BNSF trains. The kicker was the item I 0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:16.800 list had estimated dollar amounts right next to the stolen goods. 0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:18.680 Oh Wow, the cops had caught. 0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:21.960 The mastermind with his fence and all the evidence they 0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:23.640 would ever need to bust both of them. 0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:26.360 I hope it was a fake, Louis. 0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:27.760 Dude, that's how my man Boyle got fried. 0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:28.840 Yeah, that's for you. 0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:32.400 Hey. I should point out he's currently in the system 0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:34.640 awaiting trial, and thus he remains innocent of all charges 0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:36.720 until proven guilty. Good luck, Captain Boyle. 0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:40.560 So when they when they interviewed him, he was pyoto, 0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:41.440 he was grilled. 0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:45.960 Oh would double backed on me? 0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:49.520 Do you think any of the stolen nikes were those ones, 0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:53.080 the all white ones that Jax wore on Sons of Vanage. 0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:53.960 Oh, the prison specials? 0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:55.919 Yeah, the prison special Yeah, I don't know if. 0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:56.840 They make the prison twos. 0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:59.399 He'd always they were always like perfectly right. 0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:03.319 Yeah. Do you want anybody wants Liz, if I got 0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:05.360 a question for you, what's your ridiculous takeaway? 0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:09.600 My ridiculous takeaway is that it still baffles me, like 0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:13.640 how much people will pay for a pair of shoes 0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:15.920 running shoes basketball. 0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:18.360 So if they were leather shoes, would that make more sense? 0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:18.520 Well? 0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:19.640 Their leather, aren't they? 0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:21.360 So that's where you're going by materials. 0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:23.120 No, no, no, what I'm just saying like it just 0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:28.040 seems like outsized, like you know, thousand dollars sneakers, seems 0:50:28.080 --> 0:50:28.799 like there's a. 0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:32.600 Lot of attached cachet you're you're paying for. Jordan changed 0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:34.560 all this. He started making people feel like if I 0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:36.719 had these shoes, I can be like the bad boy 0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:38.640 Jordan who took a fine every day to be able 0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:40.279 to wear his own shoes. I mean that starts his 0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:42.640 legend as a rebel. Well no, but it's just it's 0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:44.680 this psychologist like you said about little kids, like you 0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:46.839 put them on, I'm so fast. It's that for grown 0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:50.319 men and grown women, grown everybody, anybody wants to grown. Yeah, 0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:52.200 they were like, hey, I feel like I'm so fast 0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:53.400 to my Jordan's. 0:50:53.040 --> 0:50:54.839 What what's your ridiculous takeaways there? 0:50:56.239 --> 0:50:59.360 That you had to even ask that my ridiculous takeaway 0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:04.000 crime is actually that No matter how much I read 0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:05.560 about this, I'm like, man, I want to do it. 0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:08.000 I know that's wrong, I know it's wrong. I know 0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:09.960 Darren don't do it, But I was like, man, I 0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:11.879 want just like once, just one one I can get 0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:13.839 away if I get away with just a treat. Yeah, 0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:15.200 just like, come on, tell the guys like, hey, they 0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:15.840 kidnapped me. 0:51:16.080 --> 0:51:18.239 They made me do this and then the cops catch you. 0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:19.320 You go just kidding. 0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:22.040 Yeah, I'm like, hey, like a one times the snow. 0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:25.160 You just tell him I wasn't standing there with a 0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:26.799 box of I did not do that. 0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:28.400 I tell him I'm a security expert and I was 0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:29.720 doing it as undercover. 0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:33.560 A white hat free lance expert. 0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:38.160 Desert lampid, Well, Elizabeth, should we wash away the desert 0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:41.400 with a talkback? Yes, producer d can you favor us 0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:41.840 with one? 0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:56.680 Oh my god, I went, hey, I'm a huge fan 0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:58.520 of the show and I was so excited to hear 0:51:58.600 --> 0:52:01.080 Darren mentioned flat track role derby the other week. 0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:04.680 It is an amazing sport. Oh yeah, derby in Canada. 0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:08.000 My derby name is Princess Leia, and it's also an 0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:10.560 expensive sport. So make sure you get out there and 0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:13.480 you support your local roller derby, whether you follow them 0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:16.719 on social media or you check out their games. I 0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:19.960 know there's lots of teams all over California, even the 0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:21.680 Oakland Outlaws, so check them out. 0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:25.839 Hell yeah, we will definitely do that. Oakland Outlaws, We're 0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:26.520 coming your way. 0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:30.080 Mine. Do support it those sports that's so cool. 0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:33.160 Yeah, Roller Derby's the I can't say what it is 0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:35.880 on the air, but you know it. That's what it is. 0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:39.960 It's also you can find us online always a Ridiculous 0:52:39.960 --> 0:52:42.680 Crime on the social media. Mostly that's a Twitter. No, 0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:45.040 it's Blue Sky and his Instagram and that's about it, 0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:47.440 I think, right. Okay, Well, we have our website, Ridiculous 0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:51.120 Crime dot com. It is a seven time Newberry Award 0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:54.319 winner and uh to check it out. Also, we love 0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:57.279 your talkback, so go to the iHeart app download it, 0:52:57.400 --> 0:52:59.879 leave us a talk back. Maybe you'll hear your voice. Yeah, 0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:02.200 we'd like to hear it. 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