1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Hey, Vikings fans, Ben Lever here, I'm so excited to 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: be a new Lifetime member, and so are my kids. 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: They love the tennis, the pick a ball, the basketball, 4 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: and of course the Yummy cafe. Check them out at 5 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Lifetime dot life to find a club nearest you. 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: Welcome to Skulls Stories presented by three M, the official 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: science partner in the Minnesota Vikings. Tonight, we're catching up 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: with Vikings receiving legend Sammy White. 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 3: Tonight, and our special guest knows a thing or two 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 3: about playing in big games and breaking records. He won 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 3: the Offensive Rookie of the Year award in nineteen seventy 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 3: six and his career only went up from there. Please 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: welcome in one of the fifty greatest Vikings Sammy White. 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 4: Well, Sammy White, welcome back to the show. 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: It's been fun running into you a couple times already 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: this season, including Legends Weekend when your former teammate Bobby 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: Bryant was inducted into the Vikings Ring of Honor. What 18 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: does a weekend like that when you were in town mean? 19 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 4: Do you? 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: What do you get the most out of when you 21 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: see your former teammates and get to spend time. 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 5: With them, just think back a whole lot of memories. 23 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 5: And we all pretty much live in a different part 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 5: of the country, and any time we all get together, 25 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 5: you know, it's a blessing and blessed to see them 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 5: and blessed to be part of them. 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: Sam When you look when you look back at the 28 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: career and your life in football and the guys you 29 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: played with, like Doug Williams and France Harkington and Hey, 30 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: I mean, the list goes on and on. 31 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 4: What do you take away most? 32 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: I mean, what do you remember? 33 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 4: What do you remember. 34 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: Most as a former wide receiver, pro bowler, the whole thing? 35 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 5: Well, I guess the biggest thing is, you know, it's 36 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 5: been great that you had a great quarterback. Receiver can 37 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 5: only do so much. But if you've got a quarterback 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 5: that know the gang and throw the ball pretty good, 39 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 5: he can help you out or not. And you know, 40 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 5: keep going about your way. It's up to you to 41 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 5: make the adjustment and make play well. 42 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: Sammy, when you look at the Vikings uh length of 43 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: coaches they have on this team, the number of sheer 44 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: assistant coaches, you kind of shake your head. I'm thinking 45 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 3: you when you were with the Vikings. I think Bud 46 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: had probably three or four assistant coaches. So was Jerry 47 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: Burns basically your position coach as well? 48 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 5: Yeah? My first few years, yes, he was the only 49 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 5: coach I had. I had. I think I was into 50 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 5: my sixth year before we did, you know, receive a 51 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 5: coach and I think that's when I missed definitely came. 52 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 4: How about that? 53 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 5: Well? Was that? 54 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: I mean there's there's some great me talking about Less 55 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: Steckel and Jerry. I mean there's not just great coaches, 56 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: but but characters as well, right, I mean these guys 57 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: had to have been just a laugh right at a 58 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: minute in those runs. 59 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's I mean two different fellows completely and both 60 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 5: were one of them and one just funny all the time. 61 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: And well, number one, did Jerry Burns remember your name 62 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: most of the time because he had a trouble of 63 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: remembering most of the players that he was coaching. And 64 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 3: and number two, uh, he was credited with almost the 65 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: West Coast offense. How innovative was Jerry as as a coach, 66 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: which of course eventually became a head coach after the 67 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: lustco and Bud Grant came back again. 68 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, Jar pretty much was ahead his time, so he 69 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 5: did and did some plays and things that you know 70 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 5: had deepens just really screwed up, missed up. I can 71 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 5: remember one time he put me in the backfield and 72 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 5: Chuck Pullman in the slot where I was supposed to 73 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 5: be and depens back that was cutting me lined up 74 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 5: at the middle of the line back up, and Chuck 75 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 5: ran down the field by hisself thought touchdown. That's pretty crazy. 76 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: So Sammy, you mentioned some of the bat that at 77 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: the time unique and crazy things you did with wide 78 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: receivers in the backfield and forming out at wide receiver. 79 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: When you watch the when you watch the game today, 80 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: does it look pretty familiar like it's it's it's kind 81 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: of like you see these crazy these things teams do 82 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: today and you're thinking, yeah, we used to do that. 83 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. But the biggest different neals we did we used 84 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 5: to running back and right now you know they have 85 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 5: put four and five receivers on the field. You know, uh, 86 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 5: running back most time with Banking was the leading receivers 87 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 5: u most years anyway, So it was speed just picked 88 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 5: them into a slot situation. And I guess that's how 89 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 5: it looked like a West Coast out there. But you 90 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 5: know it was really bit the running back. 91 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: How well did you and a MOD were shad compliment 92 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: each other? A Mod, uh, to my way of thinking, 93 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 3: Uh did not love going over the middle of the field, 94 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 3: if I recall, I mean you did all the time. 95 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: But a MOD was very careful to protect himself at 96 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 3: all costs, right Sammy h I. 97 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 5: Agree, because he caught a ton of out routes, catching 98 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 5: out and not going towards the milk. 99 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 3: But what what kind of talent was AMD? Because he 100 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: seemed to be he was. He was so slick, so 101 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: cool under pressure, and you know. 102 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 5: His size, his speed coming from college, you know, he 103 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 5: got running back background, so you know coming to the 104 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 5: wide out was easy transition for him. And you know 105 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 5: with his size and great hands, you know, it was 106 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 5: just he's a job one two punch. You know, him 107 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 5: and friend got together, hoops up and friend left, Tell 108 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 5: me got together hooks up. 109 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a transition jam. 110 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: You mentioned, you know, going across the middle of the field. 111 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 2: And in your day it was different, right, I mean 112 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: you could get you can get your head taken off 113 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: almost figuratively and literally. What made you able to do that? 114 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: Because I mean it's different now so talk I guess 115 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: to some of the younger listeners what it was like 116 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: to have to go across the middle of the field 117 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: and catch your football. 118 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 5: Well, you know, it was part of the day. Then, 119 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 5: you know, now they've changed so many rooms that used 120 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 5: to get in your face. Then you want to let 121 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 5: you off the line. But now you know you can't 122 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 5: really up the receiver and stuff. But if you want 123 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 5: to show your toughness in this leads, you know, to 124 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 5: catch the ball. And you know, especially when you know 125 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 5: some stations out there that don't do nothing but hit. 126 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 5: They don't even want to intercept them. They just want 127 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 5: to hit you. But you know, you just got to 128 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 5: habit in your mind in your heart that I can 129 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,119 Speaker 5: do this job. 130 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: Wow, it's pretty amazing that you were. You started each 131 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: game of your rookie season in nineteen seventy six, which 132 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 3: was unusual because Bud Grant normally didn't play a lot 133 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 3: of rookies. So I mean, you must have made quite 134 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: the impact both as a receiver and a kick returner 135 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: as a matter of fact for the Minnesota Vikings. 136 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. Actually, I just you know, really came there at 137 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 5: a good time. John Gilden, I think he signed with 138 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 5: the Falcons, so they kind of left the wide receiver 139 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 5: room kind of opened because who had the gym last year? 140 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 5: And I don't know who else was there. But we 141 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,239 Speaker 5: also stressed Lenny really that you know from Ohio state, 142 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 5: and you know, he was the tight guy, real fast 143 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 5: and everything. So that was good competition there too. But 144 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 5: you know, down the man, they traded and got them 145 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 5: out and then that's how he became a good tambent. 146 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I traded Bob Alerts from it from Maud Rashad. 147 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: That was a terrible trade. 148 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: So Sammy, I look back and I look back and 149 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: I think you started kind of a twenty two year cycle, 150 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: meaning you were drafted in I believe it was seventy six. 151 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: Twenty two years later we drafted a guy, young man 152 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: named Randy Moss, and then twenty two years after Randy Moss, 153 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: we drafted Justin Jefferson. So we get it right every 154 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: twenty two years, it seems. What are your thoughts? What 155 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: are your thoughts? I mean, because the next best receivers 156 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: to come through here since you were here, you know 157 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: obviously Randy Moss and Justin Jefferson, What are your thoughts 158 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: on Jefferson, And what do you think this young man 159 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: is capable in his for the rest of his career. 160 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 5: Well, the first thing, you know, he's losing out a kid, 161 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 5: so it's in the water. In the water. So that's 162 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 5: a good thought. And you can see that, you know, 163 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 5: he just learned the game and pretty much at an 164 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 5: early age. And it's almost like in the defense they played, 165 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 5: he got a count of move forward. So he's way 166 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 5: here this time. 167 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 4: To me, yeah, he's he's special. 168 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: He's got a little different paycheck than you had back 169 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: with Minnesota Vikings, I assume too. 170 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 5: Okay, do we have to talk about Yuah timing? 171 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 4: Is everything you mentioned the Louisiana kid? 172 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 5: Uh? 173 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: Of course you made your market at Grambling and I 174 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: think of Grambling and all the great athletes and coaches 175 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: they had there. And one that comes to mind is 176 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: your quarterback that you played with, Doug Williams. The Super 177 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: Bowl ended up being a super Bowl m v P. 178 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 3: What talk about your relationship with Doug both on and 179 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 3: off the field, and how how special he has been 180 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 3: in your career, in your life. 181 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's really a big time I'm thinking 182 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 5: in so till I think my year and it just 183 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 5: so happened he was playing playing in Dallas and the 184 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 5: Cat and Boat I think the bike was in town 185 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 5: that we can too, and they put Doug in the 186 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 5: gang and uh our cult to winning touchdown in that 187 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 5: game from Doug and and that's how I say, that's 188 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 5: how the bike ha dressed me because he was so 189 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 5: happy and excited because it's his first time in the 190 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 5: gang and uh, he was like picking me up and 191 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 5: stuff like, you know, winning touchdown. And I say, that's 192 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 5: how I got dressed by Minnesota. But Doug, we've been 193 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 5: you know, tight friends, uh for a long time, and 194 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 5: you know he's he a helbo right off. And you 195 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 5: know when I left grenand we was running wing teeth 196 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 5: and Doug so talented and everything that coach Robson actually 197 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 5: changed his offense from the wing teak to a more 198 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 5: spread outfic. But Doug and I guess to use that 199 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 5: Talian used that and you know, I think he's like 200 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 5: finished in the top five for hypertrophy that year. And 201 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 5: you know, everything worked out good and you know, got 202 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 5: to the lead and did good with Tea Bay and 203 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 5: end up in a super Bowl winning it. Right, Life 204 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 5: is good. 205 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 3: Did did Doug embrace the pressures because it seems like 206 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 3: there was always a story about being almost like the 207 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 3: first black quarterback in the NFL and then his success. 208 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 3: How did he handle all the outside noise and and 209 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 3: the pressure of of having that label attached to him. 210 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 5: Well, I think he had two great people's in his ears. Uh. 211 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 5: One was James Harris, you know, like one first black 212 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 5: quarterbacks in. 213 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 4: The in the lead peers, James Harris. 214 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 5: And then you had coach Robinson, you know, who believed 215 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 5: in the American wage. And I think he was like 216 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 5: determined to have him a quarterback and a court quarterback 217 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 5: to win the Super Bowl. And I think you know 218 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 5: the offense that they played with when Dougs left college, 219 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 5: he had prepared them for that, and you know he 220 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 5: got to lead and you know, throw it up and 221 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 5: got to the warning. 222 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not the only You're not the only you know, 223 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 2: great Viking wide receiter come from Grambling. Jake Red also 224 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: came through there. Do do you keep in touch with Jake? 225 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean Jake live in Houston, so uh flip 226 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 5: distance between us, but we do talk and everything. 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The Vikings are Samy White we're 246 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: talking with right now, coming off a victory in London 247 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: against the New York Jets and they're undefeated in London. 248 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: Going all the way back to nineteen eighty three, which 249 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: was the preseason game, I remember being there in a 250 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: lot of memories about that game. I know you were 251 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,479 Speaker 3: there that first preseason game against the then Saint Louis Cardinals. 252 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: Do you have any specific memories from that entire experience. 253 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: I know your head coach wasn't thrilled about flying over 254 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: there and playing in the middle of training game. 255 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 5: We have not big takeaway was it was a different 256 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 5: tasting food yess relationships. I guess so coming from Lowsanna, 257 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 5: you know, you saw a lot of seasons on your 258 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 5: food and stuff, and that was just totally different. And uh, 259 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 5: it was a very very low like in man, we 260 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 5: just had to, you know, play cards and do a 261 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 5: whole lot of different things just to keep yourself occupied business. 262 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know in that line in nineteen seventy 263 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: six and November seventh, he had an historic day against 264 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions. He had seven receptions for two hundred 265 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: and ten yards and two touchdowns. Of Vikings faced the 266 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: Lions this week. You know, justin Jefferson has I think 267 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: since eclipsed that record and it might have been against 268 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions as well. What do you remember about 269 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: that day? 270 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 5: Well, we know what to escake from Detroit to day. 271 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 5: That they do a lot of all out listening and 272 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 5: everything and lead they on the banks one on one, 273 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 5: and that's just to receive the dream if you can 274 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 5: get into a one on one situation that you know, 275 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 5: you just got to win. 276 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you do have to win. 277 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: This Vikings team is thought to be pretty unselfish that 278 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: they've built it with a lot of free agents, that 279 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 3: maybe we're under the radar, not necessarily a bunch of superstars, 280 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: but your thoughts about you know, having you know, a 281 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: group of characters or guys that understand what the task 282 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 3: is at hand. Maybe you had a lot of that 283 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: going on back back in the seventh late seventies and 284 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: maybe we're seeing some of that right now. Because I 285 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: don't know what your thoughts are on this team right now, 286 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: but beyond the one loss record, the undefeated record, what 287 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: are your sense about this football team? 288 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 5: Big thing? I sense there's a lot of similarity between 289 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 5: Bud Grin and the head coach dead Now. They know 290 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 5: what type cliffs they want in there, and they go 291 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 5: out and you know, try to get that type Cliff 292 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 5: and once they get that clips fit them into their 293 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 5: system and seeing the work and uh, I see a 294 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 5: whole lot of similarity in both of them. It's uh. 295 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: Talk more about Bud Grant what he meant to the 296 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: to you and and I think to the Vikings in general, 297 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: but just as an offensive mind, uh, what he brought 298 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: to the game, how he developed players, uh as as 299 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: people as well and as well as players. 300 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 4: What was what? 301 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: What does he mean to you? You know when you 302 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: look back on your life and your career, you know. 303 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 5: When you think that coach Gret, you know, the colored 304 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 5: stone face, you know that all serious business and every 305 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 5: day first day, you know, you realize when you get 306 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 5: there there don't waste time. You know, do what you 307 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 5: got to do so you can get in and get 308 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 5: out and you know be prepare up for the week, 309 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 5: the next game whatever. You know. It was almost like 310 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 5: Christmas to me. Like we had those long practices at Gremlin. 311 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 5: Sometimes we have four than five hours of practice. Wow, 312 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 5: we get the Minnesota the biking you got an hour 313 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 5: fifteen knee and that was a long practice. So but bleeding, 314 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 5: you know, learning your stuff, do what you gotta do 315 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 5: get in, get out. 316 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: Well, get in and get out. 317 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: And we're almost getting that time of year when you 318 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: think about get in get out, I think about the practices, 319 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: not just the games you had at met Stadium, but 320 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: for a Louisiana kid practicing outside in some high school 321 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: field or whatever you could find. What what are memories 322 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: of that, Samy Waite. 323 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 5: Are you talking about whatever field you can find? 324 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 325 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 5: What about parking lots? 326 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 4: That too? 327 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 5: We had time with it clean off spot in the 328 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 5: in the in the parking lot and went out and 329 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 5: pacts on that. But I can remember pretty much playing 330 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 5: in my first snow game and they all met this night. 331 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 5: They was drenching off one half the field while you 332 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 5: play on the other half. Before you can get down 333 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 5: to that half, snow, don't power back up. And man, 334 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 5: that was totally different. And you had to have the 335 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 5: bundset for that. 336 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then say and Bud, I think Bud set 337 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: the table with that right, with no gloves and and 338 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 2: and you know, trying to intimidate the opposing teams with 339 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: what you were and were not allowed to wear on 340 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: the sidelines. 341 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 5: Right, you had no blue Uh, you could put a 342 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 5: thumb under it, but that was it. 343 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you remember the cold? What's the coldest you've 344 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 4: ever been? 345 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: Usually you remember those moments? 346 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, uh, I mean actually I don't remember what 347 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 5: game it was, but I mean it was so freezing, 348 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 5: colding and you know you prespi uh the swift freezing 349 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 5: and mustache. And I was out there running, passed out 350 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 5: with my hand and my pants and got told Coach Drafs, 351 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 5: I just can't help you today. 352 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: Well that that rookie season you had and this team 353 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 3: had back in nineteen seventy six, I was saying, this 354 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 3: could be deja vous all over again. But of course 355 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: the Vikings this year started five and oh you were 356 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: when only a fourteen game season went eleven two and one. 357 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 3: But that was the last time the Vikings went to 358 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. And I'm thinking there's a whole generations 359 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: of fans that have been waiting patiently. 360 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 4: Could this be the year? 361 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 3: What advice do you have for him about just kind 362 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 3: of that long road traveled a lot longer than even 363 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 3: you guys had with now a seventeen game schedule, and 364 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 3: kind of keeping your head on straight. 365 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you know the first part of that 366 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 5: is I went to the Super Bowl with the Bikers 367 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 5: in my rookie year and you know, after that game, 368 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 5: I say, you know, we won. I could retack us 369 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 5: wouldn't to play for But but this a long time 370 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 5: coming and I'm one of them. I know, the fans 371 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 5: there we waiting and wait to see when it happened. 372 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 5: You know, it's happened, but so can't be enough and hope. 373 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a long Yeah, it's definitely been a 374 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: long time coming. 375 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 3: You have you know, I'm we're of course we're right 376 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 3: now with TCO Performance Center and you've been here before. 377 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 3: And I'm thinking about what the advantages the players have today, 378 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 3: and not just the training staff, the nutrition, the recovery time, 379 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: everything that they have that basically, you guys I think 380 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 3: had a universal gym and that may have been it 381 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 3: I meant, and there was no weight room. I mean, 382 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: you think about this almost seems like prehistoric days when 383 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: you were playing, and it wasn't really that long ago. 384 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 3: But how the game has advanced so much and the 385 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: ability for the players to take advantage of all the 386 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 3: resources they have today. 387 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: How about having a job in the off season, that too, 388 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: I'll tell you. 389 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 5: You know, time has changed. The gay has grown so much. Uh, 390 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 5: you know you looked around and players, you know, they 391 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 5: deserve what they get. Television revenues and so high. Uh, 392 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 5: you know, the bonus make a whole lot of money 393 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 5: before they sell the tickets. So it's out there, and 394 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 5: the good part is that it's still growing and I 395 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 5: think it's just gonna keep getting better. 396 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 2: Dude, did you did you think that this is this 397 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: is eventually where it was going to go back back then? 398 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: I mean, could you did you have a feel for that, 399 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 2: because I mean, let's face you guys were the ones 400 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 2: that really created you know, you created this whole thing. 401 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: You set the foundation for it. 402 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 5: Maybe someone could post see that, but you know I 403 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 5: couldn't post see it. But we knew that America, you know, 404 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 5: love football because you know, high school football, college football, Uh, 405 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 5: all of us seen have drawn more and more and more. 406 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 5: And and with the NFL, you know, it doesn't grow 407 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,479 Speaker 5: so much that it's taking any other countries and stuff. 408 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 5: So it's a great time to be at football. The money. 409 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 5: You don't even want to think about a rookie coming 410 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 5: in now. He's he's a I don't say a mean now, 411 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 5: but he's really. 412 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, well you didn't have free agency either. 413 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if you remember your rookie contract, 414 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 3: but I assume it was enough to pay the bills. 415 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 4: Maybe that was about it. 416 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 5: I can't remember. It's easy to remember that what they 417 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 5: did today. And my rich siorary was eighteen thousand as 418 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 5: a second round jamph choice. 419 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 2: Wow, that guys don't even get out of bed for 420 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: that anymore. 421 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 3: No, eighteen thousand dollars, that's like that was for the season. 422 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, honest that it was good that I hit a 423 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 5: lot of intensies. 424 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it all worked out, and Sam you had 425 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 3: a tremendous career. We really appreciate you spending some time 426 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: with us, and it was great singing, as I mentioned 427 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 3: at the Legends weekend with a lot of your former teammates, 428 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 3: including Bobby Bryant. So thanks for sharing your skull stories 429 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 3: with us, and take care of yourself and appreciate the time. 430 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 5: All right, I appreciate. 431 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 4: Well, thanks again to Sammy White for joining the show. 432 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: It's always a pleasure catching up with number eighty five. 433 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 3: All right, Pete versus were coming off the buy. It 434 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 3: seems like an eternity diving right back into the deep end. 435 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 3: My goodness, with the Detroit Lions coming in town after 436 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 3: they just destroyed Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys in 437 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: Dallas on Sunday, our second division game of the season. 438 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: The NFC North is shaping up to be the toughest 439 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: division in football. 440 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 4: So how do we buy into the hype at five 441 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 4: and all? 442 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 3: What are the Vikings have to do to kind of 443 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: keep their lead going against the rest of the teams 444 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: moving forward? 445 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 2: Well, you know, yes, it is going to be one 446 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 2: of the toughest divisions in the league. We talked about it. 447 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 2: I think people talked about it going into this season 448 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: as as you look at the results or toward the 449 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: end of last year with Detroit Bay doing so well, 450 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 2: everyone really felt that the that the Bears are going 451 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: to be revamped with Caleb Williams, what they weren't expecting 452 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: were the Vikings to be five and oh on top 453 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: of all of this, So division, dare I say, is 454 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: even better than what I think people expected on the 455 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: on the high end coming into this So what does 456 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: that mean? That means that the home game has become 457 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 2: so important. We were able to go on the road 458 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: and win in Green Bay. That was as important of 459 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 2: a game before, I think as any team has had 460 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 2: in quite some time because of the way the division 461 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 2: lays out this year with tie breakers. So to get 462 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 2: Detroit at home, I think, you know, they lose Aiden Hutchinson, 463 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: I think it's a good I think it's a good 464 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: time so to have them and to play them, and 465 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 2: to be able to do it here at home. So, yeah, 466 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 2: they have their they have their work cutout for him, 467 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 2: And you just did These division games are going to 468 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 2: be tough, man. It's yeah, it's everyone. Everyone has a 469 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 2: winning record for him. Two is the worst vision, Well, 470 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 2: it's it's amazing. 471 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 3: The Vikings defensive coordator Brian Floor is probably not getting 472 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: a lot of sleep this week. He's gonna have to 473 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 3: work his magic against a very nuanced and tricky and 474 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 3: talented Detroit Lions team that can run the ball, they 475 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 3: can throw up, they got the tight ends, they got 476 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 3: the wide receivers, and they got the quarterback. So how 477 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 3: do you attack a team like that to kind of 478 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: keep the ball rolling, Because the Vikings just don't get beat. 479 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: They don't trail in any of these games. 480 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 2: No, they don't. And I think you know Montgomery and 481 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: Gibbs are the key. And if you look at Jared 482 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: Goff and you look at his numbers he has. 483 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 4: He's unbelieved. 484 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of yards and touchdowns and everything, 485 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: but he doesn't have a lot of attempts, right, they're 486 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: always somewhere between eighteen and twenty two, eighteen and twenty four. 487 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: You've got to make him throw the ball thirty five 488 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 2: forty times. Now, how you go about doing that? Well, 489 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: going up early on a team helps. I think we 490 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: took you know, I think we took Green Bay out 491 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 2: of their running game early that way. I think we 492 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 2: took the patients away from the New York Jets with 493 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: their running game because we got up early on the team. 494 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: So that formula, you know, can you keep creating it? 495 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: It's a lot easier said than done. But if you 496 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: can get this somehow, get this Lions offense one dimension'll 497 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 2: make them throw the football. I think that's your best 498 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: chance of winning against these Lions. 499 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 4: All right, thanks Pete. 500 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Vikings will be back at home, of course, 501 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 3: at US Bank Stadium. It's been a wait on Sunday 502 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 3: facing off against those four and one Lions. It's a 503 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 3: noon game on Fox here in the Twin cities, so 504 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: be sure to check your local listings for details. You 505 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 3: can also catch Paul Allen, Ben Leeber and Pete Bursts 506 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 3: right here all across the Vikings Radio network. The Vikings 507 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: Football Sunday pregame show starts at ten am on Kfan, 508 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 3: so'll be sure to tune in with host Mike Mussman 509 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: and the rust of the crew leading up to kickoff. Pete, 510 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: it's always been a pleasure. Thanks again to Sammy White 511 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: for joining the show, and thank you fans for tuning 512 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: into another edition of Skull Stories presented by three M, 513 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 3: the official science partner of the Minnesota Vikings. We'll see 514 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 3: you all again next week.