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Speaker 1: How do we let this keep happening?

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Speaker 2: We yet again as a society scheduled Halloween on Nick

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Speaker 2: Saban's birthday. When I'm college football commissioner. That doesn't happen

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Speaker 2: until then. We just have to deal with these sorts

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Speaker 1: It's happening all around us.

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Speaker 2: We're in the heart of it, and we're up here

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Speaker 2: because I did inside college football last night. We're going

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Speaker 2: to drive the State College tonight. We'll be there for

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Speaker 2: Ohio State and State this weekend. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 2: what we have to talk about is upsets. I feel rumblings,

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Speaker 2: I feel tremors, I feel a little seismic activity beneath

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Speaker 2: our feet that could be a precursor to yet another

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Speaker 2: volcanic Saturday.

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Speaker 1: We had one point zho a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: We could have volcanic Saturday two point zero upon us.

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Speaker 1: So I'll give you the upset alert meter.

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Speaker 2: I've got Ryan Day headed into State College, headed into

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Speaker 2: Beaver Stadium, even at noon. It's gonna be tough to

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Speaker 2: take on James Franklin. And the thing about it is

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Speaker 2: stats and Info has reliably informed me. Someone's gonna win

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Speaker 2: that game, but someone's gonna lose that game. What is

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Speaker 2: the conversation around that losing coach who faces more pressure.

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Speaker 1: In that game?

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Speaker 2: The Ryan Days and James Franklin I had a will

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Speaker 2: take the other night, and some people disagreed on that.

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Speaker 2: We got some huge November games coming up. You hear that,

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Speaker 2: You hear Volcanic Saturday almost upon us. We got huge

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Speaker 2: November games coming up, and I am going to tell

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Speaker 2: you how big, which of them are, Which ones will

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Speaker 2: ultimately determine this thing. Cole Kubrick's on the show tonight

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Speaker 2: and I already recorded our segment with him, and I've

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Speaker 2: got to say, as segments with Cublic go, it's about

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Speaker 2: as good as we've done a lot of meat on

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Speaker 2: the bone with Cublic tonight. And you know, I tell

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Speaker 2: you if it sucked. We've done segments that sucked before,

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Speaker 2: but not tonight. They're watching us in Spokane, Washington, Trussville, Alabama,

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Speaker 2: which I've always spoken of, East Central Alabama, Arlington, Virginia, Jacksonville, Florida.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for tuning in.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you're following on Instagram at late kick Josh,

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Speaker 2: We'll do Friday night lines from State College tomorrow night

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Speaker 2: because we somehow got hotels in State College instead of

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Speaker 2: beautiful Altuona. And no disrespect to Altuna, but I'd rather

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Speaker 2: be in State College this time of year, and we'll

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Speaker 2: be on the sideline Saturday.

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Speaker 1: You will get no better access.

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Speaker 2: Maybe even including by watching the Fox broadcast.

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Speaker 1: Then I'll give you in that Instagram story.

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Speaker 2: We'll have a lot of good behind the scenes stuff.

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Speaker 2: And look, I'll be on campus tomorrow going to go

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Speaker 2: over there and lift at Penn State. Penn State one

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Speaker 2: of the best weight rooms in the country, by the way,

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Speaker 2: if no one else gives them credit, I will. That

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Speaker 2: place is awesome. But that's coming up. As for now,

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Speaker 2: the upset Alert concern meter this week is pinging for

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Speaker 2: me on a lot of these games. Ole miss Arkansas,

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Speaker 2: I want to start you with that one. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to put a six and a half on the one

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Speaker 2: Here there is no wiggle room, whereas maybe a month

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Speaker 2: schedule and you thought, ooh, ole Miss, let's see they'll

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Speaker 2: either be an undefeated team or maybe a one loss

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Speaker 2: Ole Miss has already got a couple of losses here

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Speaker 2: like they played inspired football against Mississippi State.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean much other than they haven't mailed the

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Speaker 2: season in like some teams have this time of year.

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Speaker 2: Good offenses, each one of them when they're peaking. My

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Speaker 2: to start looking at the Georgia game. Louisville is playing

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Speaker 1: For the upset here. I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I'm putting a four on the upset Alert Concern meter.

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Speaker 2: Some people had disparaging comments towards us when we made

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Speaker 2: This is their seventh game in seven weeks. It's their

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Speaker 1: I'm actually higher on Louisville.

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Speaker 2: I think that most of the country is this is

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Speaker 2: here we go Indiana. Is it the Michigan game?

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Speaker 2: Nope, They're just going to play Michigan State. We cannot

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Speaker 2: You know, if you ever doubt it, I'm live. Don't

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Speaker 2: a landmine game. I'm concerned about it. I'm concerned about

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Speaker 2: the thing about it is Michigan State's lost some recently.

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Speaker 2: Aiden Childs, though, when he's protected, can pop you, and

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Speaker 2: this is not the kind of situation where you can

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Speaker 2: I'm putting an eight on this. The line is seven

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Speaker 1: I'm not going as.

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Speaker 2: Far as to call for the outright upset, but you

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Speaker 2: They outplayed Michigan last week, like Michigan, State outplayed Michigan

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Speaker 2: Iowa State's like a twelve and a half point favorite

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Speaker 1: And the thing about that is Iowa State is ninety

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Speaker 2: It profiles as a game very similar to the UCF

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Speaker 2: it's that kind of game, but it's November. You're breathing

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Speaker 2: You know, JP poll took a lot of flak this

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Speaker 2: and said, it's disrespectful to have SMU above Pitt.

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Speaker 1: Well, no it's not.

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Speaker 2: And conveniently they play here and SMUs favored by seven

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Speaker 2: Have an SMU above pit now ask for the game. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm concerned. I know Pitt well enough to know to

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Speaker 2: alert concern scale. SMU quarterback questionable. That downgrades them, I

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Speaker 2: think fairly significantly if he cannot go. But they were

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Speaker 2: I view that as you ran a red light and

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Speaker 1: He did not disagree, nor could he.

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Speaker 2: I think SMU is going to win this game, but

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Speaker 2: This last game. I saved for last for a reason.

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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of nervousness, understandably.

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Speaker 2: It's a very morose way to go about approaching a game.

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Speaker 1: Penn State fans are mad.

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Speaker 2: They're upset that they got another shot, maybe the best

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Speaker 2: That doesn't make a Penn State fan happy. If James

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Speaker 2: The outright world of Ryan Day slash Ohio State. For

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Speaker 2: That's the hurdle they can't get over. Well, Michigan's not

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Speaker 1: The Michigan hurdle has never been lower recently.

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Speaker 2: You got that in the bag, but you already got

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Speaker 1: They were aggressive in the portal.

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Speaker 2: Argue the nucleus of the team's been built the right way.

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Speaker 2: Everything about the way Ohio State put this team together

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Speaker 2: It's not some gimme that they're gonna beat Indiana. I

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Speaker 2: So don't think that's out of the realm of possibility.

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Speaker 2: And again, if Ohio State has been vulnerable enough to

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Speaker 2: But I've gone over this before with you. It takes

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Speaker 1: That's not me.

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Speaker 2: If that were me, maybe I'd have the lack of

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Speaker 2: I wanted to put it out there about an hour

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Speaker 2: I said, you never know when the sun may rise

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Speaker 2: What if Saturday morning, the sun is rising on the

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Speaker 2: recruiting benefit and they become a whole lot more desirable

440
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 2: a portal destination. And Penn State goes on a little

441
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,439
Speaker 2: run here that they haven't gone on to this point.

442
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 2: They are the hunted rather than the perennial hunter. You understand,

443
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 2: all those dominoes could start with Saturdays.

444
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 1: Being knocked over. That's why these games are so big.

445
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,679
Speaker 2: You never know when the sun rises on the biggest

446
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 2: day of your career. However, on the worst days of

447
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 2: your career, you usually know when the sun just set

448
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,159
Speaker 2: on it, and I really think that could be the

449
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,719
Speaker 2: case for Ryan Day. I don't like dressing games up

450
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 2: like this because in the grand scheme of things, this

451
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 2: one game, but I cannot deny the external ramifications that

452
00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 2: exist around this one. It's unique in the way it's

453
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,679
Speaker 2: set up because of the fact that they lost. They

454
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 2: had the audacity to lose by one point to the

455
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 2: number one team in the country on the road, and

456
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 2: so because you had the audacity to do that, In reality,

457
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 2: Ohio State could be the ninth best team in the

458
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 2: country this year and go ten and two, because the

459
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 2: ninth best team in the country reasonably should go ten

460
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 2: and two against their schedule, because they played two top

461
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: ten teams on the road. No one wants to hear that,

462
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 2: and once people's minds get made up on this, they're

463
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: made up. But we will be at this game because

464
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 2: Quick Trip is fueling the entire whole New Saturday toward

465
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 2: this fall. And we were in two places last week.

466
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 2: We went to Vegas and then we went to Nashville.

467
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 2: And this Saturday, just you know, an old fashioned one

468
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 2: game special, a Saturday afternoon special there in Happy Valley

469
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,120
Speaker 2: there at Beaver Stadium. We have been there a few

470
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 2: times now, been there for a Hawaii out at night,

471
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 2: been there for some big noon games, was there for

472
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 2: the Michigan game last year, one of the most boring

473
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 2: games in the history of organized athletics. So expecting a

474
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: better show in this one than last year. And we

475
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 2: will have obviously a real unique vantage point. They always

476
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 2: take care of us. Penn State love going there. We'll

477
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 2: be on the sidelines for this one. Make sure you're

478
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 2: following at late kick Josh on the old IG channel.

479
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of good stuff in the

480
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 2: story there. All right, let's move on. I have got

481
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 2: let's see one, two, three, four, I got five games

482
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 2: in front of me. All right, here's what we're about

483
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: to do. Shopkeeping. We're doing some big November games. Then

484
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you some best bets. I'm adding one

485
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 2: to the Romnuel Express. And then I got Kublic in

486
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 2: here for just a wide ranging conversation. Got some FSU stuff.

487
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 2: What do we talk about? We got some LSU stuff.

488
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 2: I had Kublic walk me through what the locker room

489
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 2: dynamics were in the best and worst years of his

490
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 2: Auburn career, cause it directly applies to a lot of

491
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 2: what's going on around college football right now. But in

492
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 2: the meantime, it is October thirty first, and we don't

493
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Speaker 2: play any more big games until November gets here, So

494
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 2: November is upon us. November is the longest month in

495
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: all of sports, for college football especially. It technically is

496
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 2: thirty days, thirty one days, whatever, but in reality it

497
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 2: feels like it's nine or ten weeks long because this

498
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: is where teams like for instance, Iowa State get and

499
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 2: their breathing air that they haven't breathed for a long time.

500
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 2: Colorado's there as well. Tennessee's back in that kind of category,

501
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: and you find out whether you have enough gas in

502
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 2: the tank to go fourteen weeks or you just had

503
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: enough gas in the tank to go like nine or

504
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: ten weeks. These are the biggest games I think on

505
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: the radar for the month of November. Bama plays LSU

506
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 2: next week, huge game. Many people will call it a

507
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,239
Speaker 2: playoff elimination game. I'm like nine tenths of the way

508
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: to calling it that, But you can never say for

509
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: sure because you don't know what the rest of the

510
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: country is going to do. You don't know how the

511
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 2: rest of the field's going to pan out. But LSU,

512
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: the last time we saw them, they were getting sliced

513
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 2: up by any kind of quarterback run or option game

514
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 2: in the second half against ANM, and that is something

515
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 2: Alabama does very well.

516
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: Now, this is not as cut and dry as that.

517
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: If it were.

518
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 2: College football would be easy to figure out.

519
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: And we'd all be rich betting it.

520
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 2: But if LSU can't do any better stop in the run,

521
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: especially the QB run, than they did against A and M,

522
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: then that's ugly. Bama on the road was a disaster

523
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: the last time we saw them in that kind of

524
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 2: situation because it was at Kneelan. How about Kaylen Debor

525
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: coming down to the SEC and gets a taste of

526
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: Kneelan at full throat, and I can very well assure

527
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: you Death Valley at night will be that kind of

528
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: experience and then some in his first year at Alabama

529
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: he gets all that and Kaylen de Bor versus Brian

530
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 2: Kelly's an interesting little dynamic there as well. But for

531
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 2: all the obvious reasons, this game's on the list.

532
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: That's in week eleven, So that's next week.

533
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: The week after that, Tennessee goes to Georgia, and we

534
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: got to find out is.

535
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Speaker 1: This different than twenty twenty two? You remember a couple

536
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: of years ago.

537
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: Now Tennessee gets the win over Alabama and Kneeland just

538
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: like they did a few weeks ago. Now it was

539
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 2: higher scoring because at the time Hypel had the number

540
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: one offense in the country, and they were riding high,

541
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: and they tore down the goalposts and they dumped it

542
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: in the river, and they did a lot of the

543
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: same stuff that we saw a couple of weeks ago.

544
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: But then we knew they had that game looming on

545
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: the road in Athens and they could not withstand Georgia.

546
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: They physically were second place that day by a wide margin,

547
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: and it let Tennessee know how far they still have

548
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 2: to go. Till we're two years later and they're in

549
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: the same boat. And I assume that they'll be a

550
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: one loss team when they go down there, and think

551
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 2: about Georgia.

552
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: Is Georgia will be.

553
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 2: Favored to still be a one loss team, But this

554
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: will be after Georgia's already played Florida this weekend, where

555
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: they're a healthy favorite, and they will have already gone

556
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 2: to Ole Miss, where they'll be a smaller favorite but

557
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 2: still a favorite. Is Georgia still a one loss team?

558
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: Snow guarantee would expect them to be, but the snow guarantee,

559
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: and so this is like the Bama LSU game for

560
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: all we know, will be talking about playoff elimination, although

561
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that's the case with Tennessee, and if

562
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 2: george is merely a one loss team, that wouldn't be

563
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: the case with Georgia. But dude, this is all these

564
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 2: big games George's played Bama Texas, the Florida games in Jacksonville,

565
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 2: Ole Miss. This is the one they get at home.

566
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: This is the top ten, top fifteen caliber team they

567
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 2: get at home. So that one is two weeks from now,

568
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: three weeks from now, and who knows where we are

569
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 2: by this point. Indiana, thus far undefeated, goes to Ohio

570
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: State week thirteen. We've got to shake the idea of

571
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: upset proof teams. I'll tell you I'm thinking this way

572
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: with George of Florida this weekend. I think this way

573
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: with Ohio State Indiana. Recent history has taught us you

574
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: got a handful of teams any given year. Normally George

575
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: is one of them. Normally Bama under Saban was one

576
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: of them. Normally Ohio State under Ryan Day has been

577
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: one of them. Where there is a certain small and

578
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: they're all in it that is just immune from these

579
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: kinds of upsets in November, it will not happen.

580
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: Now.

581
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: They may not cover a spread because the spread's so big,

582
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 2: but they're not losing the game.

583
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: They're just too good.

584
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: They're too fundamentally sound, they're too well coached, they're too deep.

585
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: They will not let it happen. That may not be

586
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: the case this year. And if it's not, and it

587
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: has not been with Ohio State. If it's not, you

588
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: cannot discount these games. And Indiana's playing the best ball

589
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: that we've ever seen them play. You can't discount these

590
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: games for Ohio State. Let's say they go beat Penn

591
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: State this weekend, God forbid, they lose it. If they

592
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 2: lose it, this is its own segment. But even if

593
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: they win this weekend, people will start to think they

594
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: got over the hump. Now we'll have the Michigan game

595
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: for fun, and then the Big Ten title game. No,

596
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 2: you won't yet, not in that order. Look at the schedule.

597
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: They got Indiana. Indiana's better than Michigan, Like, you need

598
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: to be focused on Indiana a whole lot more than

599
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: you need to be focused on Michigan. Although I understand

600
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: why you would think opposite. Oregon, Penn State, and Indiana

601
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 2: are still undefeated in conference play. So let's say Ohio

602
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 2: State does lose to Penn State this weekend. Well, if

603
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 2: Indiana keeps winning and Oregon keeps winning and we end

604
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: up second the last weekend of the season, we could

605
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: still be in that weird trajectory where we're on pace

606
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 2: to have three undefeated Big Ten teams that could also

607
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: be in play. Not to mention the whole Ohio State

608
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: college football playoff resume talk.

609
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: The week after that is rivalry week.

610
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: And that means sure, you got Ohio State in Michigan,

611
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: you got the Iron Bowl, you got Notre Dame USC.

612
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: We have all of these things. South Carolina Clemson could

613
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: be a really, really big, sneaky game that day. Texas

614
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: at Texas A and M in Week fourteen could be

615
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: game of the year material. The cheapest tickets there right

616
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: now are off the charts. Remember a couple of weeks ago,

617
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: I talked to you about some games of the year, Colin,

618
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: don't show it to me yet, but in a second,

619
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: I'm going to show you lines on these games of

620
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: the year. But I'm going to give you a little

621
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: sneak preview. This line has dropped significantly. Dare I say precipitously,

622
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: It's dropped because ever since we talked about it, that

623
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: thing is shrunk. It has sunk like a stone almost

624
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: to net zero. Not quite, but almost. It's a one

625
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: night only type of game. What I mean by that

626
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: is sure Texas is in playoff contention. A and M

627
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: is as well. They're both in SEC Championship game contention.

628
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: But you know what, if you bring your mem on

629
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: to the TV that night, she doesn't need to know

630
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: any of that.

631
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: You turn this game on for her.

632
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: Her jaw will be on the ground for one night

633
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: only spectacle type of reasons. Because Kyle Field will be

634
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: maybe in a form like most of you have never

635
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: seen it before. Kyle Field has been waiting for this moment.

636
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: It is basically the lyrics of Indie Air Tonight by

637
00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: Phil Collins, laid over a football game. I don't know

638
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: what more I can say, but I will say this,

639
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: these teams have challenges before they play that game. Texas

640
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: has a bye week this week they play Florida. They

641
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: go to Arkansas, which was a total nightmare for them

642
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 2: last time they went up there, and they got Kentucky.

643
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: So they got a couple of losable games there. A

644
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: and M goes to South Carolina this Saturday. It's a

645
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: very losable game they got in New Mexico State. Ask

646
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: Auburn about that, and then they go to Auburn before

647
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: they play Texas. So a couple of tough road spots

648
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: for Texas, A and M.

649
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: So there's still a long way to go.

650
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: They got to pull out the weed whacker and get

651
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: their way through this unscathed to make it maximize its

652
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: national significance.

653
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't need significance.

654
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: Like all due respect to the folks in Billings, Montana,

655
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: the locals there do not care if you're watching or not.

656
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: They will hate each other all the same and same

657
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Speaker 2: This was a game played in like half a foot

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Speaker 2: All Right, there, Hea is col Kublick joining us. I've

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Speaker 2: you with it. You've seen Florida State this year, just

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Speaker 2: let's just talk about this on air. Do you think

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Speaker 1: It poisons the well.

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Speaker 2: Permanently, and it got so bad that you can't hit reset,

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Speaker 2: back to normal, and could be the case with Norvel.

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Speaker 2: There are a few other instances around the country, but

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Speaker 2: that's the most extreme one. And then the other thing

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Speaker 2: I start to think about is in the modern age

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Speaker 2: like this where you just strike it rich in the

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Speaker 2: you can't recreate that and it bottoms out, which leads

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Speaker 2: us to have this kind of conversation. But you said

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Speaker 2: something right before we started talking about Man, if you

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Speaker 2: lottery every year, which got me to thinking, Mike Norvel,

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Speaker 2: Kirby or a Nick Saban or anything like that. So

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Speaker 2: minds eased, And maybe that's a little akin to saying

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Speaker 2: with a bunch of questions about what was your strategy

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Speaker 2: and how did you do this? How did you accomplish that?

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Speaker 2: And the guy's like, I won the lottery. That's my strategy,

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Speaker 2: That makes Norvel sound like a fraud, and I don't

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Speaker 2: want to do that. But I'm saying, if it's not him,

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Speaker 2: So this is not some new example of a guy

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Speaker 2: And then I wonder, like, how is this going to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's multi layered, and it's so real when you

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Speaker 3: Joshed I think are saying, well, your coaching acumen should

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Speaker 3: first in total offense. Like that's a lot one hundred

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Speaker 3: I still think that people are gonna look at this

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Speaker 3: Hoover High School's kids and you can go out there

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Speaker 3: and win six or seven games, not be this, which

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Speaker 3: There are hanger honors now in college football. When I

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Speaker 3: But like we know that he's kind of just here

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Speaker 3: now because the making pretty good money and they're probably

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Speaker 3: We're not gonna get fired, saying hey, man, what do

871
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 3: you think the situation is there?

872
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

873
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 3: Hey, what do you think is going on behind the

874
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 3: scenes there? I'm like, why are you calling me? And

875
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 3: they're like, well, people are asking questions about this guy.

876
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, get out of here like this. No, they're

877
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 3: not getting him out of there. Look at a situation

878
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: like Billy Napier, do we really think that can be reversed?

879
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, in your gut, do you think that

880
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 3: Billy Napier can turn this thing around? I wish he could.

881
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 3: I hope he can. But based on everything we've heard

882
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 3: and everything people have said, it seems very doubtful that

883
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: that can be reversed. And that's very you know, and

884
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: that's because of what you're referencing that certain people have

885
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: gotten to the point that they've said no more. It's

886
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 3: kind of like the It's like talking to fans about

887
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: Peyton Thorne earlier this year, like McElroy and I would

888
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: go back and forth about it, and he'd get really frustrated.

889
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: He'd say, you saw these interceptions. He was hit when

890
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 3: he threw the ball, like the ball was tipped, like

891
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: you saw the other decisions. And I said, Greg, first off,

892
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: welcome to terrestrial radio. Second off, in situations like this,

893
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 3: when people make up their minds, it's over, it's done.

894
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 3: So I think that applies to head coaches too, because

895
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: you and I both know where the money's coming from.

896
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 3: You and I both know where the power is stroked

897
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: in a lot of these places. If that person or

898
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 3: three out of those five people say this ship has sailed,

899
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: whenever the time comes, we're ready to move on. It

900
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 3: might be December, it might be next week, it might

901
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: be the middle of next year, but just no, we

902
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: are moving on and we'll be ready to give you

903
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 3: the rest of what we got.

904
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: Then.

905
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: I think the other part of what you asked about

906
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 2: Napier is so I've got the fan analyst side of

907
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: me that'll sit here and say, no, he probably can't

908
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: turn it around. However, if he had Miami's remaining schedule,

909
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: maybe he could turn it around because maybe that leads

910
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 2: to a winning season. That's that side, Okay. Then there's

911
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: the other side that's way more jaded and callous to

912
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: this business. Who knows what you just said is accurate?

913
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 2: And what he said for those of you listening who

914
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: weren't necessarily picking up what he's putting down is when

915
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: they went in the tank about a month ago seems

916
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: like an eternity ago. When Florida really went in the tank.

917
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: I started getting calls too. Yes, some of them are

918
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: from agents. A lot of them are from the biggest

919
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: money boosters and the people who were most connected to

920
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: money around Florida. Their mind was made up. Their mind

921
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 2: was made up. When you start hearing people speak definitively

922
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 2: in our lane, in our avenue about how a guy's

923
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: probably done, the search firms already in motion behind the scenes.

924
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: It's not necessarily because the ad has texted you. It's

925
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 2: because the people who make the decisions for the ad

926
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: have texted you or called you, and so, yeah, I

927
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: agree with you. I just I don't know what the

928
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: mechanisms are around Mike norvel I think the same thing

929
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: about Lincoln Riley. I think about these guys who I

930
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 2: think are capable coaches who maybe if you just plugged

931
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 2: them from their situation, gave them two years off and

932
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: gave them a fresh entry at some other place two

933
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: years down the road, probably have success. I just don't

934
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 2: know if this far into your tenure, He's five years

935
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: in Norvelle, has been a decade. I just don't know

936
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 2: if you have the equity and the rope to say,

937
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: all right, I've learned, I've learned, I've realized the air

938
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: of my ways from this point forward will do it right.

939
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: They're not going to give you time to rebuild or

940
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 2: reinvent yourself when you're making that much money.

941
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: Well, how about this you, I think I heard you

942
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 3: reference it as like the Sabin Dabbo problem. I used

943
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 3: to reference it as the Sabin Urban Myra effect. Whereas

944
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 3: people just think it's going to be that every single year,

945
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 3: and as we get further down this path of that

946
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: not being real. Outside of Kirby Smart right now, Ryan Day,

947
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: right now, even though he's lost in Michigan, let's be honest,

948
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: the seasons he's put together have been pretty damn good,

949
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 3: and even though they might not be ultimately satisfactory to

950
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 3: a certain group of people, ninety eight percent of college

951
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 3: football would love to have those seasons. Dabo a little

952
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 3: bit of a dip. It hasn't been the same as

953
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: it was. Who are the guys that are just going

954
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 3: to have that sustainability every single year? And as we

955
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 3: retrain our brains in a lot of different things with

956
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: college football, how long is it going to take people

957
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 3: to retrain their brains of you're gonna get an undefeated

958
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 3: regular season, You're gonna get a one lost regular season now,

959
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 3: maybe a playoff appearance, and there might be a six

960
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: or seven win season after that, maybe two years after that.

961
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 3: But it can still bounce back. I go back to

962
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 3: Kentucky and Mark Stoops. I can remember year two and

963
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 3: three where people wanted him gone yeah, yeah, well, notably

964
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: saying he needs to go, he can't do this, and

965
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 3: then look what he's done. He's become one of the

966
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 3: greatest coaches in school history. So there are a lot

967
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: of folks that aren't going to have that patience. Fan

968
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 3: bases aren't gonna have that patience. We might need more

969
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 3: of it now because the reality of that elite sustainability

970
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: not only feels like it's maybe gone, but if it's

971
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 3: not gone, it's pulling away pretty fast.

972
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you the other thing that will bite

973
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: Florida State and bite Norvelle independent of what the reality

974
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: of the situation is there. If if Miami goes and

975
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: wins the ACC if those people have to sit there

976
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: and watch them in the college football Playoff knowing they

977
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: already had the recruiting upper hand on you, Like I mean,

978
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: Mario can pound his fist all he wants to. He

979
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: could have whispered that the other day after that game,

980
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 2: and it would be reality. I think that turns up

981
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: the heat a little bit as well, whatever that means

982
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 2: in this day and age. All right, so let's go

983
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: a little bit west, but stay down there on the coast.

984
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 2: Thoughts on LSU right now, after they just lost. They're

985
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 2: up seventeen to seven midway through third quarter against an

986
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: m Then Marcel Reid comes in and they have no

987
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: earthly idea how to stop him. I mean as late

988
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: I bring up the time and point because as late

989
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: as midway through the third quarter. I'm watching that game

990
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: thinking LSU is one more play away from breaking this

991
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 2: thing open, and then you fast forward what twenty three

992
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: more minutes of game time, and the whole narrative accurately

993
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: so is boy LSU kind of got handled at the

994
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. Boy, they didn't have an answer for

995
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,479
Speaker 2: Marcel Reid, boy A and m pulled away in this game.

996
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 2: Did not expect myself to be saying that. So LSU

997
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 2: went up to Arkansas a couple of weeks ago did

998
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 2: something that candidly I didn't think they were going to do.

999
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: They outrushed Arkansas. Did not think that was going to happen.

1000
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: But since it happened, I thought to myself, if they

1001
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: have found that, if they've sort of leaned into that

1002
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: literally and figuratively just enough to where Nasmyer didn't have

1003
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: to drop back and throw it fifty times a game,

1004
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 2: then maybe I've got a more balanced approach here. Maybe

1005
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: this team's playing just good enough they get just an

1006
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: pressure defensively where in a complimentary fashion, that's the big

1007
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 2: wildcard team. And there's a part of me that still

1008
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 2: wants to believe LSU is one of the biggest wildcard

1009
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: teams in this whole, you know, outside of the top

1010
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 2: eight or so playoff picture. But I've heard you talk

1011
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: about LSU, your thoughts about what they are versus what

1012
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: they could be, SLASH should be, and Brian Kelly's there

1013
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: again in the postgame talking about what they need to

1014
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: be and what they could be and what they should be,

1015
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 2: and where are you on LSU right now?

1016
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: The nice to have with LSU is you have guys

1017
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 3: that can take over a game. Braden Swinson can take

1018
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: over a game. Wit Weeks can take over a game.

1019
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 3: Kyrien Lacy can take over a game. You have those

1020
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 3: type players. The need to have is what Brian Kelly

1021
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 3: asked for after the game, more balance. And this is

1022
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 3: seven eight weeks into the season. You the balance should

1023
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 3: have been there.

1024
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: It's November.

1025
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 3: Do I believe, deep down in my gut that LSU

1026
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 3: could posh people around offensively if they wanted to, if

1027
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 3: they were given the opportunity to. Yes, I do. I

1028
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 3: believe that could happen with that offensive line. Even with

1029
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: the running back issues they had early in the season.

1030
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: It feels like you've had to figure some of those out.

1031
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 3: Throwing a tight end that's not afraid to get in

1032
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 3: there and mix it up a little bit. They could

1033
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: be that team. They are not given the opportunity to

1034
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 3: be that team. Even the Arkansas Again, it was thirty

1035
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 3: seven rush attempts for one hundred and fifty eight yards.

1036
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: It wasn't three point fifty eight. So it's two thirty

1037
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 3: sevens that mostly put on the ground this year, and

1038
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 3: that was against South Alabama. But the scary part is

1039
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: when you go down the attempts twenty six, twenty one,

1040
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: twenty eight, twenty four, twenty three against Texas A and M.

1041
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 3: You're not going to control games that way when you

1042
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 3: have the opportunity to, Like, here's here's a part of

1043
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 3: it that people don't understand. So you say, oh, you

1044
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 3: need more balance to run the clock or control the

1045
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: tempo of the game or time of possession, or third

1046
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 3: down efficiencies or give you better third down looks. That's

1047
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 3: all great. But what people don't think about is, specifically

1048
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 3: when you have a Chamar Turner and the Nick Scrton

1049
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 3: and guys like that, is that when they are able

1050
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 3: to dial in on doing one thing on almost every down,

1051
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 3: your job becomes ten twenty thirty times harder because the

1052
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: variety in which you are now able to use technique

1053
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 3: and fundamentals to go beat your man individually continues to

1054
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 3: be subtracted. So it's just level down, level down, level down. Okay,

1055
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 3: I can either take a deep set, I can try

1056
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 3: to jump in, I can take a quick set, or

1057
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 3: I can try to get an inside stab. All of

1058
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 3: a sudden, your options are done, or I can you

1059
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 3: know a better anchor here? Because I feel like it's

1060
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 3: going to be speed to power and when you don't,

1061
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 3: it's speed around the corner. Like you're done. So you

1062
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 3: make a lot of people's lives very difficult. That's just

1063
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: from an offensive line perspective. That doesn't have to do

1064
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 3: with backs and receivers and how coverage operates and how

1065
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 3: linebackers can operate different coverages you can call. I just

1066
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 3: think you make everybody's job harder, no matter how good

1067
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 3: the other people are at what they do. And the

1068
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 3: one thing that you didn't mention with that is that

1069
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 3: the quarterback is going to throw the ball to the

1070
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 3: team with the other coor jersey on. Now you're either

1071
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: going to be Arkansas and you're gonna drop three of those,

1072
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 3: or you're gonna be Texas. A and M and you're

1073
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: gonna catch three of those. So wherever you fall into

1074
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 3: that mix is probably gonna determine the outcome of that game.

1075
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 3: Because this has been happening a couple of years ago

1076
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 3: against Georgia and the SEC title game. This happened against

1077
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 3: Southern Cal, it happened against Nichols. He's going to throw

1078
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 3: the ball to the other team, Now how many times

1079
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 3: and do they catch it? Those are still up for debate.

1080
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 3: But this is not a once in a blue moon situation. Now,

1081
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 3: this is genetic. It's in his DNA. This isn't Jurassic Park.

1082
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 3: We don't rewire those chromosomes. The turnover genome is there,

1083
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 3: and you have to find a way to best mitigate

1084
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 3: that moving forward or you're gonna continue to have similar issues.

1085
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 2: All right, So walk me through this, let's say, And.

1086
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 3: By the way, handing the ball off is probably the

1087
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 3: number one way to lower the chances of that take

1088
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 3: place very few.

1089
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,959
Speaker 2: In fact, I had statsin info run this zero interceptions

1090
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: on handoffs so far this year and all of not

1091
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: a single one on a single one. Yeah, and have

1092
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: to go tap, but we'll see how November goes. But

1093
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 2: not a single one so far. So let's say you're right.

1094
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: So to backtrack for a second, you said you feel

1095
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: in your gut of guts if ls you really wanted

1096
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 2: to lean on someone and wanted to impose their will

1097
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,959
Speaker 2: physically on the offensive line, they have it in them

1098
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: to do that, right, Yes, okay, So let's say you're

1099
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 2: right for a second. There's this world where you're wrong,

1100
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: and let's ignore that. Let's say you're right for a second.

1101
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: What keeps people being paid a whole lot of money

1102
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 2: to coach this game from sitting in a room like

1103
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 2: I'm in on a Sunday or a Monday and saying

1104
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: throw everything else out. We know we can do this.

1105
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 2: We watch our guys in practice every day. We know

1106
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 2: who we've recruited, and we evowed them to do this.

1107
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: Why are we not doing this? Let's do this thing,

1108
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: because some of this stuff's really complex and incorporating that,

1109
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: putting that into practice in terms of a game script. Yes,

1110
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: I understand you got to get on a grease board

1111
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 2: and speak Portuguese, But the principle of the matter, how

1112
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: did you not see that that's right in front of

1113
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: your face?

1114
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: Honestly, cool shit, I mean, that's it. Like, like, why

1115
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 3: do people spend their money on jewelry rather than investing

1116
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 3: in stocks? Why do it? Why are Instagram models married

1117
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 3: and then divorced and then married again, and then divorced

1118
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,439
Speaker 3: and then married again.

1119
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: Like why.

1120
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 3: Why does somebody have, you know, the perfect girl next door,

1121
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 3: yet they are determined to go date you know the Instagram.

1122
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and their dating Chastity.

1123
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: They're dating Chastity.

1124
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: And Peggy is sitting right there on the port swing

1125
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: and she's just been there all along.

1126
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1127
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you could have had the GMC Sierra, but

1128
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 3: you chose, you know, the Denali or the range Rope

1129
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 3: or the range Rover or the Ferrari, and like, you

1130
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 3: know it's going to break down, and you know the

1131
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 3: insurance is going to be too high. Like cool things

1132
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 3: are distracting. Throwing the football, catching the football, explosive plays

1133
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 3: down the field are all cool and fun. Hating the

1134
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 3: ball off is not cool and fun. Not to most people.

1135
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 3: I think it is, But to most people that's it.

1136
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 3: It's the same situation that you have with a lot

1137
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 3: of like why are some edge defenders great every down? Well,

1138
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 3: being great every down doesn't involve a lot of cool stuff.

1139
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 3: You got to set the edge, you got to use

1140
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 3: your hands, you got to take on blocks, you might

1141
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 3: have to take on a double team. It's not all this,

1142
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 3: you know, dip and rip half a man, try to

1143
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: get to the quarterback. See how fast and edgy? I am, Like,

1144
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 3: that's not all of it. So I just think it's

1145
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 3: it's knowing that you're good at something and thinking that

1146
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 3: that thing is really cool and fun and exciting. And

1147
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 3: yes it's great for recruiting, and yes the kids love it,

1148
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: and yes it can get you points, but they've proven

1149
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 3: it can get you beat. They've proven it. So it's

1150
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: just I think sometimes it's keep in mind too, first

1151
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: time play caller, former quarterback, Like some of those things

1152
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 3: are just ingrained in your brain. That's like, this is

1153
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 3: what we have to do. We're getting that coverage. That

1154
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 3: guy's an alien at receiver, this guy can throw the

1155
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: ball really well. We're gonna do that, right, We're gonna

1156
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 3: do that instead of like one thing that Sark does

1157
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: that I love, he calls them call him and runs.

1158
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 3: There are certain situations in games or situations with players

1159
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 3: where he says, you know, we got to do cold,

1160
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 3: like we got to call it and run it because

1161
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 3: I asked him about run game before Vanderbilt. He goes,

1162
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 3: you're right, he said, we need more times in the

1163
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 3: game where I say, inside zone go There are no checks,

1164
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 3: There is no thought process like maybe you get a

1165
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 3: green and gold where you can go left or right,

1166
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 3: so green right, gold, left, but there is no we're

1167
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 3: getting to Z twenty eight smash. We're not getting to

1168
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 3: you know, four verts like we're not no run inside

1169
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 3: zone right here. Because we need to set a tone.

1170
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 3: We need to prove that we can do it. We

1171
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,959
Speaker 3: need to prove to the opposition that we will try

1172
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: to do it. And that is maybe more important than

1173
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 3: all of it. Proving to someone that you how many

1174
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 3: times do we see teams that are incapable of creating

1175
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 3: explosive plays and we say, just throw the dagun ball

1176
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 3: down the field every now and then, like prove to

1177
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 3: that safety that is screaming down to the line of

1178
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 3: scrimmage that he might need to pay attention to that

1179
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 3: outside receiver once every now and then, I just a

1180
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 3: thought in the back of your mind that maybe we're

1181
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 3: gonna sail it down the sideline and that guy might

1182
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 3: have a chance to catch it. It's the same philosophy

1183
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 3: just in reverse. At least make me respect it. And

1184
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 3: that's the part that I think that for the majority

1185
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 3: of the season they've just gotten away from and you

1186
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 3: can't win all the time. Even twenty nineteen, LSU handed

1187
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 3: the ball off Clyde Edwards. You their head over one

1188
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 3: thousand yards on the ground. Now, he caught the ball

1189
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 3: and they did a lot of other stuff, but like

1190
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 3: they handed him the ball because if you're gonna play

1191
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 3: four in the box, they were gonna run it at you.

1192
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 3: And by the way, that offensive line when given the chance,

1193
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 3: Barry got pretty good push in the run game.

1194
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 2: What was the I'm going somewhere with this. What was

1195
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: the best and worst team you were on at Auburn

1196
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: record wise?

1197
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 3: I think three and eight was the worst and the

1198
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 3: best was we probably two thousand won the West and

1199
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 3: two thousand one the West of ninety seven won a

1200
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 3: bowl lost to Ball. So can't remember those final records.

1201
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: Okay, So but you had you had good year, bad year,

1202
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: like you experienced both of those things, right, yes, Okay,

1203
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 2: So the month of November in college football, I think

1204
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 2: for a lot of these teams, because they're in the

1205
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 2: whole playoff conversation in mix now and they haven't been

1206
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: there before. Colorado is a really good example, just to

1207
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: pull one out of the thin air. You get to

1208
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: November and you find yourself saying things like, wow, man,

1209
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 2: the first first two months of the season have flown by,

1210
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 2: and you convince yourself, well, the next month's gonna fly

1211
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: by two. Even just watching this game, November feels ten

1212
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 2: weeks long to me. November is such a long month

1213
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: for a contending team. You get in rarefied air and

1214
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 2: you're just you're dealing with the kind of pressure and

1215
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 2: attention and foreign territory that you're not familiar with. Coaches, administrators,

1216
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: players like all of that. But also for the teams

1217
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 2: that aren't in anything, Kentucky just randomly you're gonna have

1218
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: Kentucky this weekend. When you get to November, you've been

1219
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 2: on both sides of this coin. I like to think

1220
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: that we live in a world of angels, where everyone

1221
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: thinks the right way and they're playing the game for

1222
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: the right reasons. We don't live in that world, of course,

1223
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 2: and so there are some guys who are fully juiced

1224
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,959
Speaker 2: for November, and there are some guys who are checked

1225
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 2: out in November. You've been in both camps. What's that

1226
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 2: like for you individually? What was that like in a

1227
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: locker room depending on the situation.

1228
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough because I was in one. Two, We're

1229
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 3: had an interim head coach. You can imagine a lot

1230
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 3: of guys checked out at that point, a lot of

1231
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 3: other conversations happening. So we were ten and three, three

1232
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 3: and eight, five and six, nine and four. So yeah, good, bad,

1233
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 3: bad good, And I think now it's gonna be a

1234
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 3: little are difficult because some of the things that potential

1235
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: in front of certain teams are going to keep them

1236
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: going and keep them into it. Other things are going

1237
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 3: to be pulling at these guys, like when you and

1238
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 3: I've had conversations about agents that have told kids not

1239
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 3: to play in very meaningful games that could have played

1240
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 3: at different points in time in this season. So now

1241
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 3: you're gonna have guys being asked to sha. There is

1242
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 3: someone who asked Oli Gordon the other day, why is

1243
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 3: he still playing football?

1244
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it was a legit question.

1245
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 3: What I gets it because you only get some many

1246
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 3: opportunities to do this, and this is like everything else

1247
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 3: that goes into this, Like I know you think my

1248
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 3: Popeye's Chicken commercials school, but like that's why I signed.

1249
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: Up to do.

1250
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 3: This is the actual football game, not the other stuff

1251
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 3: like we lift weights, we run, we train, we go

1252
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 3: to meetings, who watch film to play the games. So unfortunately, uh,

1253
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: there's a lot of folks that are going to find

1254
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 3: other reasons not to play games. And I think this

1255
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 3: is going to be on the coaches to find different

1256
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 3: ways to motivate. I think you're gonna look at some

1257
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 3: new ages co which is too Josh, that are gonna

1258
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 3: say we're not fighting this anymore. We're just gonna go

1259
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 3: get the guys that want to play. And I'm not

1260
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 3: talking about team I'm not talking about Ohio State and

1261
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 3: Alabama and Tennessee though I'm not talking about Oregon right now.

1262
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 3: But the teams that might make a bowl game, might

1263
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 3: not make a bowl game, maybe have a chance to

1264
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 3: get to like nine wins and that would be a

1265
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 3: really good year. They're just gonna probably start saying, listen,

1266
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 3: if this is a debate, just go home, like just

1267
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 3: just leave. We'll get this guy in, we'll get him

1268
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 3: ready for next year. We'll let him play. He'll be happy.

1269
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 3: The whole deal. And that's gonna be tough because some of

1270
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 3: those guys are gonna be a bit of a liability

1271
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 3: in their positions. Some of those guys might not be

1272
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 3: able to make as many plays. But the mentality, I

1273
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 3: think is what you want to keep, you know. It's

1274
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 3: like Shane Biemer has told us about the guys you

1275
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 3: want a red shirt in a million year and go

1276
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 3: transfer after the year. He says, you can use the facilities,

1277
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 3: you can use the academic space, you can do whatever

1278
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 3: you want, but not during the hours in which my

1279
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 3: team is here. Like, you will not be around my

1280
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 3: football team anymore because he doesn't want those conversations happening

1281
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 3: in the locker room. And there are other co coaches,

1282
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 3: you know. Lane has said he'll let guys practice. H

1283
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 3: Lincoln has said he'll let guys practice. The first thing

1284
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 3: that comes to my brain is is that guy recruiting

1285
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 3: other players to come with them wherever they're gonna go next,

1286
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 3: And like, why are you letting them hang around? I

1287
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 3: don't care about like a couple of scout team reps.

1288
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 3: I'll get that from you know, Billy ballboy. It's whatever,

1289
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 3: who cares? So I think the mentality is going to

1290
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 3: be interesting to watch because you and I are both

1291
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,439
Speaker 3: thinking the same thing. Is why you brought this up.

1292
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 3: There are ten to fifteen teams out there that when

1293
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Speaker 3: they lose their next game, we are dying to know

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Speaker 3: how that thing looks. Yep, the very next week. I

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01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 3: mean we're gonna I'm to the point where I think

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Speaker 3: we're gonna be literally having COVID conversations of can they

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Speaker 3: put a roster together to go play a game? I

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Speaker 3: mean it's I just think that's where we're gonna be

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Speaker 3: with some of these squads, and the coaches are gonna

1300
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 3: have to find ways to motivate. The coaches are gonna

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01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 3: have to find either internal goals or smaller goals or

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Speaker 3: single game goals to try to get guys out there

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01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 3: and want to go play and play. Harry, But you know,

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01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 3: we always November for us was number one. It was

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01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 3: George and Alabama, So that's what we knew that that

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Speaker 3: was we had divisions, which is this is one of

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Speaker 3: the reasons that I do think getting away from divisions

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01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 3: are were bad. We always had that to continue to

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Speaker 3: try and play for, so we didn't have to be

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Speaker 3: one of the top two teams in the league. We

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Speaker 3: had to go win our division when we beat Alabama

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Speaker 3: and Tuscaloosa. Arkansas lost that day, so we clinched the division.

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Speaker 3: So that wasn't necessarily we didn't control that per se.

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Speaker 3: We had to have some help, but it happened, and

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Speaker 3: that gave us a lot of We didn't need motivation

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Speaker 3: to go play Alabama, but those things were still out there.

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01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 3: So that meant that they were out there the first

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Speaker 3: week in November, the second, third, fourth, all the way through.

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Speaker 3: So it's going to be a little more difficult. I

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Speaker 3: imagine now you'll start hearing about coaches having some conversations

1321
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Speaker 3: of Hey, that nine spot, that ten spot, it's it's there,

1322
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Speaker 3: it's possible, it's feasible trying to make a run for that.

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Speaker 3: So and then some of the other ball eligibility. I

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01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 3: don't know how much you can motivate that for kids anymore. Really,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they get super excited about a

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Speaker 3: bowl game or postseason. I think at certain places, yes,

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Speaker 3: but there's gonna be a lot of places where I

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01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 3: think that's gonna be a tough sell.

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Speaker 2: I look, I don't want to say this, but I'll

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Speaker 2: say it because it's the way I feel. I've given

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Speaker 2: up on hoping that guys remain bought in for bolseason.

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Speaker 2: I've just given up on that. I'm wanting you to

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01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 2: stay bought in for the regular season at least, like,

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Speaker 2: let's hang on to that.

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Speaker 1: But to hang on to it, you.

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Speaker 2: Talk about coaches making sure that they use methodology to

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01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 2: keep guys motivated. Well, there's one very very easy solution

1338
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 2: to that. If you're going down the revenue sharing route,

1339
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 2: you just have to build contingencies into that framework. You

1340
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 2: have to incentivize that framework to where I've got a

1341
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 2: seventy hundred thousand dollars carrot per year dangled in front

1342
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Speaker 2: of your face, but you're not touching it until you

1343
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 2: complete the season. Unless you're hurt. You better complete this

1344
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 2: season and to go back to something else. You talked

1345
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: about the Beamer approach for example, of you can still

1346
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 2: use the facility, you can use South Carolina. We feel

1347
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 2: like we owe you that much, but you're not going

1348
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: to be around the team. You're gonna have to do

1349
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 2: it off hours. Right when I go to these places.

1350
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: Normally I'll work out at a place on Friday. Well,

1351
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 2: you know you post it and hold on, oh my

1352
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,919
Speaker 2: my head. It's just so you'll see him in there.

1353
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 2: You'll see guys in there who are on the roster

1354
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 2: and who, as far as you know the fan base

1355
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 2: is concerned, are still just as much a part of

1356
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 2: the team as anyone else. And they're working out on

1357
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: their own and they're they're not injured, they're just working

1358
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 2: out on their own. You go talk to the strength coach,

1359
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 2: what's going on there. He's kind of been jettison from

1360
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 2: the team, like he can still use it, but he's

1361
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 2: not really good with the team. Happens all over the place.

1362
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a real thing.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: So these these nice like one hundred and fifty thousand

1365
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 3: square foot weight rooms, it's like softball team, Josh, extra guys.

1366
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's basically. And then what you want to

1367
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 2: avoid is you want to avoid the volleyball team because

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01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 2: the volleyb all team will humble you the volleyball team.

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Speaker 2: As a full blooded, like like American male who feels

1370
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 2: fairly confident about oneself, you start to question yourself a

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01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 2: little bit when the volleyball team walks in there and

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Speaker 2: everyone of them's bigger than you, and you you don't

1373
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 2: even hang around to see if they can outlift you

1374
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 2: because you're already intimidated by the size. It can be

1375
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 2: a tough scene.

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Speaker 3: Yes, some of us don't have that problem.

1377
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, people saw the picture last week. People

1378
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: saw the picture. And by the way, how about that,

1379
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 2: how about finally you aging and there was no money exchange.

1380
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 2: You just agreed to take a picture, just like that.

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01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 3: Right, we've I actually asked for said photograph. But that's okay.

1382
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Speaker 3: We don't have to say that if we don't want to.

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01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: Hey, do you prefer the sideline or the booth more?

1384
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 2: When you're calling a game?

1385
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 3: I will tell you. I've told people who I work

1386
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 3: for when they've asked me that questions. And I just

1387
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 3: want to be on the best game possible. I love

1388
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 3: being on the sideline because that's as close as I'll

1389
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 3: ever get to play in again. And it's to see it,

1390
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 3: to feel it, to hear it, to be down there.

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01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 3: There are things I'm going to see there that I'm

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01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 3: never going to see up top. But you can completely

1393
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 3: reverse that. And Lane has It's funny because Lane, like

1394
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 3: during timeouts, has asked me this. He's like, how do

1395
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 3: you watch games from down here, man, Like this, this

1396
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 3: drives me crazy because you don't have that all twenty

1397
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 3: two view or that end zone type shot that you

1398
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 3: want to see so desperately of I think I saw that,

1399
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 3: But did that linebacker play over the top? Like did

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01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 3: that safety really come down and bite on the play?

1401
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 3: Accs and that's why they scored? And you you can't

1402
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 3: really see that. So there is a give and take

1403
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 3: with both. Like I love talking to the coaches. I

1404
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 3: love interviewing coaches. It's something that I never knew that

1405
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 3: I would have to do, and now I actually love

1406
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 3: doing it. It's an awesome challenge because every coach is different,

1407
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 3: but being in the booth and being able to describe

1408
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 3: things as you see them is something that's also it's

1409
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Speaker 3: tough to beat, man, because it's like, I feel like

1410
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 3: I see the game pretty different than a lot of

1411
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Speaker 3: other people, and so I like to talk about the

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Speaker 3: way that I see it, which is not the normal

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Speaker 3: way that a lot of people discuss.

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Speaker 2: I've got to get out of here. You'll be at

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Speaker 2: Kentucky Tennessee Saturday. I'll be at Ohio State Penn State.

1431
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Speaker 2: And then we'll probably just hate text each other that

1432
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 2: night because have you picked a winner of that game?

1433
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1434
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 2: I win Ohio State. How I mean if there are

1435
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 2: so many things that if they lose I'm gonna have

1436
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 2: to be talking about next week that are just going

1437
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 2: to be totally toxic, that it's past the point of

1438
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 2: no return. I think to myself, I think Ohio State's

1439
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 2: gonna win because they can't lose, because if they lose,

1440
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 2: then they're probably out of the Big Ten playoff or

1441
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 2: conference picture. And then Ryan Day's got two losses on

1442
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 2: his ledger already in a year where Michigan's down, Like

1443
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 2: the only thing they haven't been able to overcome is

1444
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 2: not necessarily a huge obstacle this year. And then it's

1445
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 2: Oregon and Penn State that get in your way. And

1446
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 2: this roster was custom built. This thing was Taylor made

1447
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 2: to make a run at the national title. I think

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01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 2: you know where that goes. Yeah, but do the kids

1449
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 2: do it that way?

1450
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 3: Like you can't make guys go out there and play

1451
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 3: extra because your job might be on the line.

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Speaker 2: I also think they're good enough to win the game.

1453
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say this if I didn't think they were

1454
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: good enough to win the game?

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01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 3: Did you good enough to win every game? But there,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you this. I had Ohio State film

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01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 3: last week.

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Speaker 1: I watched it was the most.

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Speaker 3: Concerning film on a team that I thought was really

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01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,600
Speaker 3: good in a very long time. And that was a

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Speaker 3: lot more than the left tackle situation. I'll just say that,

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01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 3: I think the offense of identity has a little bit

1463
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 3: of an issue. Some of the effort on defense was concerning,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, it's it.

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Speaker 1: Was a lot. So I feel great about my Crik.

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Speaker 2: I will talk to you next week, sir, and we

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Speaker 2: will be back here Sunday night. Yeah, it's not quite

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