1 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: All right, super special episode of Splash Hit. Today, we 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: have Baseball Royalty join us. Thirty two seasons as a 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: professional manager, twenty eight in the Big league's four World 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Series champions three with the Giants, and six most wins 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: in Major League history, and the eleventh manager in Major 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: League history to earn two thousand wins. Bruce Bochie joins 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: the show today. Boach Man, thanks for coming on. 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: Of course. Of course, I'm just telling you earlier. There's 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: not a whole lot I can do here right now 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 2: in Nashville, got icy roads, it's below freezing, so we're 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: all staying indoors right now. 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: When are you heading the spring training? 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to go with March, the first part of March. 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 2: I'll be there the whole month though, so looking forward 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: to it, looking forward to getting to know these players. 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: I've seen the younger players as well. I'll shoot over 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: to watch minor leaguers, to catch up with everybody. Of course, 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: the staff, you know, Tony and I we we've met 19 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: a couple of times. But yeah, it's gonna be, uh, 20 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: you know, the exciting time for me. I'm getting back 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: to Bay Area. I'm looking forward to it. 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's My next question, welcome back. How does it 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: feel to be with the Giants again. 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: Oh? It feels great. You see me with the orange. 25 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: You know, I'm excited. Yeah, And you know what, I 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: didn't know if I was going to, you know, take 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: a year or two off, or if I, you know, 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: would do something like this. But talking to Buster, I 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: just you know, he had mentioned earlier, you know that 30 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: may I'm I'm a Giant, and I feel like that 31 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: that's that's my home. It's spent thirteen years there. So 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: I'm excited to you know, to stay in the game. 33 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: I'm in a good place right now. Go. I have 34 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: to make a lot of those decisions that managers have 35 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: to make this time of year. But it's gonna be uh, 36 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: you know, exciting for you know, the family too. They're 37 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: looking forward to it. I have a son that's a 38 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: firefighter there. I'll get to see him quite a bit. 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: Well, that's cool. We're also glad to have you back. 40 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: Talk about Buster a little bit, like what's your guys relationship, 41 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: like now, how's it evolved from a player to now 42 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: president of Baseball Operations And what do you think about 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: the job he's doing so far? 44 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, of course he's going to change from 45 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: manager to player to what it is now now he's 46 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: my boss. But I think more importantly, you know, we're 47 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: just probably closer friends now. You know, you always have 48 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: a little distance as a manager. That just comes natural. 49 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: I believe this is my second time though, that I've 50 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: had a player that ended up being my boss with 51 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: Chris Young they're in Texas and now with Buster. But no, 52 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: we've been texting, you know, when he makes these moves, 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 2: I get excited about him. I'm just getting baiter out, 54 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 2: fire off a text, just keep up with everything. So no, 55 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: we and that was a big reason why I wanted 56 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: to come back, because of Buster being there and being 57 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: the president. 58 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we talk about the organization right now. 59 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: Boach and a lot of Giants fans are watching this 60 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: and maybe they're not happy with all the signs this offseason, 61 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 1: but to me, it's more of a big pitcher thing. 62 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 3: We have the right people in the right place, you Dusty, Buster, 63 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: guys that have. 64 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: Won championships before, and maybe you could just talk about 65 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: the direction the organization is heading and your feelings about that. 66 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, first of all, I think they have a 67 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: really good foundation. I mean, you look at the lineup, 68 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: I think it's a team that's going to put runs 69 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: on the board this year. You know, you don't have 70 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: Devors for a full year. You know, you had a 71 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: couple of guys, the three guys that could hit thirty 72 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: plus home runs in the lineup. It's I think it's 73 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: a fairly young lineup, you know, when you're looking at 74 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know what Willie is probably thirty 75 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: years old, and Endeavors is around in that area. So 76 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: but anyway, I think they've added some important pieces to 77 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: the lineup, a guy like Bata. I know they wanted 78 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: to improve the defense. I've always been pitching centric. I've 79 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: always loved defense, especially in that ballpark. So I like 80 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: what they've done to the rotation. Uh, you know, as always, 81 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: it's just it's gonna be a key to keep that 82 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: rotation healthy because those guys that they're going to throw 83 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: out there, you start with Webb and Ray and of 84 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: course Maley, you know Adrian Hauser. Uh, you know, those 85 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: guys are going to give you a chance to win 86 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 2: when when they go out there, and the bullpen always 87 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: plays a huge part of your season. So we'll see 88 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: how that goes, but they have good arms down there, 89 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: and uh so I think they're they're adding some nice pieces. 90 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: Uh and you know, some some good pieces of work with. 91 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: And as as always, you don't know how the year 92 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: is going to go. It takes the life of its own. 93 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: But you know, these guys do what you know we 94 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 2: expect them to do. You know, it's gonna be a 95 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: nice year. It's a tough division, no getting around it. 96 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: But so I can't tell you what's going to happen 97 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 2: from this point to spring or even until the season starts. 98 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: But I think they've added some nice pieces. 99 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the bullpen a little bit, like there 100 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: was nobody better I don't think in the history of 101 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: the game of managing a bullpen, and when you talk 102 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: about how important that is in today's game, and maybe 103 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: what's going on with the giant situation. A lot of 104 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: times you see managers burn a bullpen out early in 105 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: the season. 106 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: They got nothing left. 107 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: In October, the guys are all gassed, Like, what was 108 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: your philosophy on how to run a bullpen? 109 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Tony asked me that question. That was one 110 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: of the questions he asked me when we get together 111 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: here in Nashville, and you know, I like to say 112 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: there's a secret sauce, but every year is different. You 113 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: got to adapt to the bullpen that you have. You 114 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 2: may have a frontline closer like a Hoffman or Wilson, 115 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: and then you know, we kind of piece it together 116 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: when we didn't have that one closer, cause see I 117 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: did probably the line share of it, but we had 118 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 2: to adjust there with him. And so it's just, you know, 119 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: hopefully you get the arms that you can get the 120 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: matchups that you want, guys that are I call them men, 121 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: and you know, guys that they're winners because they're coming 122 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: in with the game on the line, and so you 123 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: want the type of player that wants to be out 124 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: there then. And so I think this bullpen has some 125 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: really good arms. They got some nice lefties and rightings, 126 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: you know, to get the matchups that they want. Games 127 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: change a little bit with that three battered minimum, where 128 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: I had Romo and Lopez and I you know, i'd 129 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: move those two around quite a bit. But so now 130 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: they have some good arms and you're getting Folly who 131 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: has a really nice arm. Hopefully he'll be back I 132 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: think in May, so he'll make that bullpen even better. 133 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: Bath was just in fantasy camp in Scottsdale and Jeremy 134 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: I felt had a team. 135 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 3: He was one of the coaches, so there was a 136 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 3: lot of Boat stories going on in the coach his room. 137 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: I mean, he was telling me about how influential you 138 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: were on his career. 139 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a lot of fun. He's he's a 140 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: lot of fun to get on, to have some fun with, 141 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: and he takes it well. But he was so valuable 142 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: in that bullpen. You need a guy like that, a 143 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: guy who can go multiple innings face left. He's some 144 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: rioting's who's resilient. 145 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: You know. 146 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: I didn't give him a lot of days off. He 147 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: could handle it. Had it had you know, his ups 148 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: and downs, like all bullpen guys, but he handled it well. 149 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: And that's the key to a team. That's the key 150 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: to the player. Every individual, as you're is being resilient. 151 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: So but he just had a great way of about, 152 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: you know, not making baseball his his sense of significance. 153 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: You know, he took the game seriously, but he didn't 154 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: take himself so seriously, and he kept everybody loose down there, 155 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: and a lot of fun, a lot of and I 156 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: still you know, we still take all the time. We 157 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: stay close. Fact, I must see him here a couple 158 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: of weeks here at this Safari Club. 159 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that relationship you have with all your players, I 160 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: mean you talk about when you win a world championship 161 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: that just brings everybody so close together, and you guys 162 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: have a bond for life. 163 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 3: I'm sure you stay in touch with a lot of 164 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: your players. 165 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you do. I mean, let's face it, I 166 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: mean you've been there. You're together for one hundred and 167 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: sixty two all count spring training, over two hundred games. 168 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: You do become like a family, probably, you know, as 169 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: years ago. Not I should keep in touch a little 170 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: bit more. But you know, we have some group texts 171 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: with all the teams I've been with, so I try 172 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: to keep track of everybody, and I look forward to 173 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 2: the reunions things like that. And like I said, I'm 174 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 2: looking forward to just getting back to bear A and 175 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: seeing a lot of these guys. I talked to Wodas 176 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: a couple of days ago, just touch base with him, 177 00:08:54,920 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: and you know, these guys meant so much to me, Righetti, Wotas, Flannery. 178 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: But we do keep in touch. 179 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: You talk about all the teams you managed, and you 180 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: mentioned Trevor Hoffman, and I played against you guys in 181 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight and I know you've won four World Series, 182 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: but that. 183 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 3: Had to be one of the most talented teams you 184 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 3: ever managed. 185 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: I mean there were superstars everywhere on that San Diego 186 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: Padres nineteen ninety eighteen. 187 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really was. You know, it's probably one of 188 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: my biggest disappointments that we didn't win the World Series 189 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: because we were talented. I remember going to spring training 190 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: and thinking, this team's going to do something special. I 191 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 2: mean we, as I said, we had men all around 192 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: that field. Came an Eddie vond and Walie Joiner, I mean, 193 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: Tony Gwynn. These guys were a close knit group too. 194 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: And we got to the World Series. Of course, you 195 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: know we ran in a juggernaut Yankees. You know, that's 196 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: that's the year. They had an incredible season and but 197 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: it was a special year in that group. Group texts 198 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: and they all stay close together, and it just shows 199 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 2: you how important you know the culture of the chemistry 200 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: that you create, what the team is and you see 201 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: why you know that team won, or our giant teams, 202 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: they were a very close knit group, what. 203 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: Would Bruce Bochie after twenty eight seasons and all your accomplishments, 204 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: and tell a young Bruce Bochi, excuse me, tell a 205 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: young Bruce Bochie maybe in nineteen ninety five, when you 206 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: first started managing, with all your experience, what would you 207 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: tell the rookie manager in nineteen ninety five, Well, ninety. 208 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: Five, I'll tell you. What I would have told myself 209 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: is to delegate a little bit more. When I first 210 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: started in ninety five, I did everything. I ran the meetings, 211 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: you know, talk about how we were going to pitch 212 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: the hitters, where we were going to play them. And 213 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: then after a couple of years of that, I said, 214 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: well this is I'm not going to last long doing 215 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: everything here. And you know, if you're the smartest guy 216 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 2: in the room, then you're in the wrong room. Because 217 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: you know, these these staff, the staff that you hired 218 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: at pitching coaches and and uh base coaches. You know, 219 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: they all all have their expertise, and uh so I 220 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 2: would have told myself use those guys. I had Davey 221 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 2: Lopes for example, first base, you know, so I let 222 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: him run to the base run and hey, if you 223 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: think they can steal it. Uh you got something on 224 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: these pitchers, send them so uh that's where it would 225 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: have started. Uh. After that, probably uh you know, maybe 226 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: be a little bit more patient. You know, I know 227 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: I would show frustration to doug out and things, and uh, 228 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: you know, a couple of snaps you feel bad about 229 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 2: because a lot of people look at me and they say, ah, 230 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: you know, he just seems so calm, but don't don't 231 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: let that bly what's going on underneath? And you know, 232 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: kicking the buckets and they would have some last one 233 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: time I put that stuck in the bucket, and you know, 234 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: it's just it's just uh, you know, it's just something 235 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: that I probably would have told myself, which I think 236 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: that's why I you know, the way I end up 237 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: managing the last three four or five years was just 238 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: being a little bit more more patient and realized how 239 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: hard the game is. 240 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: Well, what's your impressions of Tony so far and what's 241 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: going to be his biggest challenge? 242 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he's very impressive. Man, He's gonna be fine. 243 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: He's got a great way about him. He's smart, he 244 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: understands baseball. You know, he's been doing this long time. Yeah, 245 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: you know, been you know, coaching, wearing different hats, and 246 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: so he has a great feel for the game. Obviously, 247 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: the biggest challenge is all the games that you're playing. 248 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: And I don't think he's ever lost sixty seventy games 249 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: in a season, so you know, you've got to deal 250 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: with that, you know. Of course, you know the workload 251 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: on the players college. You can run him out there 252 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: every game, but those guys are near the rest, particularly 253 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: the bullpen. You know that those guys that you got 254 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: to just keep an eye on. Well, he's got two 255 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 2: nice pitching coaches there that will help him. Of course, Tingler, 256 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: he's managed, he's going to bring that experience, and Washington 257 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: to be there to help him out, and of course 258 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: the Dusty and I were there to help. We're there 259 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: any anything he wants to ask or talk about. You know, 260 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: we're there for him and we want to help him succeed. 261 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: I want to see the Giants win another championship. That's 262 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 2: that's the biggest reason why I'm here. 263 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 3: That's awesome Giants fans, I love to hear that. 264 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: Butach I managed an a ball in San Jose and 265 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: the game was moving. 266 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: So fast for me. 267 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm coaching third base I'm putting on signs I got 268 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: to get a guy up in the bullpen. Is the 269 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: speed of all that and maybe the speed of the 270 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: major league game going to be a big challenge for 271 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: Tony or is it just baseball's Baseball's baseball? 272 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: You know what it could be? You know, again, not 273 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: ever coaching college, but I'm sure moves were made in 274 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: the college game too. But you know, the biggest thing 275 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: is just being prepared, don't be surprised, and so that's 276 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: what you have to tell yourself, and you do that 277 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: before the game, so you know you're you're ready for 278 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: any anything that comes up. And that's uh, you know, 279 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: that's where a guy like Tingler is going to help 280 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: out too, even the pitching coach. Uh, you know, I 281 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: started relying on coaches more too. Just give me my options, 282 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: you know. I you know, I did my own thing, 283 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: but I want to woe to say, Okay, well I'm 284 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: missing something here. This is what I'm going to do. 285 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: And Ronnie was great, Rags was great, and so that's 286 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: that that will be an important part of the game. 287 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: So open lines of communication. 288 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: You mentioned Tyler Mallee earlier newest Giant pitcher one of 289 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: the newest Giants pitcher. 290 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: You managed him. What can you tell Giants fans about 291 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: Tyler Malley. 292 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the guy, you know, I was. I 293 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: was behind this move. Leave me. He was so good 294 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: before we got hurt up. We're got to keep this 295 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: guy health. The uh he's a really good competitor. He's 296 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: like a number one or two when he's on the 297 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: mound and he's healthy. Throwing well. We had you know, 298 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: Valdi and de gram on that staff and he was 299 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: thrown as well, not even a little better than them 300 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: before his injuries. So he's got he's a four pitch guy. 301 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: You know. He's got that riding fastball. He's got great command, 302 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: he's got a nice split to work with, and he'll 303 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: mixing the breaking ball and good poy. He's uh just 304 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: sounds away, getting tougher with men on base, good teammates, 305 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: a lot of good qualities. Yeah, he's he's he made 306 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: this better staff when he when he joined us. 307 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: He said, riding fastball, that's awesome. That's old school. Everybody 308 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: says spin right right now. In the videos I've seen 309 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: of Tyler Mally, he's throwing like ninety one and ninety 310 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: two pass guys late in the county, elevates the fastball 311 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: and it looks like it's playing up to like ninety 312 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: seven ninety eight. 313 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually right. And don't look at him, you know, 314 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: coming in throwing harder than that. You know he'll bump 315 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: ninety two ninety three. But you know that's he just 316 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: got you know, that good ride extension all that, It 317 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: just jumps on them. And uh, he'll use it too. 318 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: He's got a lot of confidence and uh, but the 319 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: biggest thing is this command. He can pitch on it. 320 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: I had all four quadrants as well as anybody. 321 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: All Right, switching gears a little bit to the Hall 322 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 3: of Fame. What does that mean to you? 323 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: Getting into the Hall of Fame based on all the 324 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: hard work you put in, everything you've done in the 325 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: game of baseball for so many years. 326 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: Well, I'll start with I'm not into Hall of Fame. Uh. 327 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,359 Speaker 2: Well you know that that that. 328 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: I meant getting into the Hall of Fame? 329 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: What what would that means? 330 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 3: You would be a better. 331 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: That's that decision will be made by people. But you 332 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: know what it's it's just hard to wrap my head 333 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: around that. You know, I just see the Hall of Fame, 334 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: you know, for the great players, you know, the benches 335 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: and and Willie Mays and those guys. Of course, I'm 336 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: not going in as a player, I get that. Uh, 337 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: as a manager, it's kind of know, it just blows 338 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: your way when when when that comes up, the question 339 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: comes up to me a lot, and uh it's it's 340 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: just horror for me again to you know, to think 341 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: that that's a pulse the possibility, because that's such a 342 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: high pinnacle that I never even thought about that when 343 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 2: I started managing. When I started managing minor leagues, I 344 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: didn't know if I was going to manage in the 345 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: major leagues. And now you know, this talk, this Hall 346 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: of Fame talk has been coming up in the last 347 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 2: couple of years, and uh so it is. It's it's 348 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 2: very humbling, and we'll see what happens. 349 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 3: From Spokane to the Hall of Fame. That'd be pretty cool. 350 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: I saw your first year you were like, I don't know, 351 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: ten or fifteen games over in Able. What was that 352 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: like going from I mean, I did a too quick boach. 353 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: I jumped out, retired and then got right into coaching. 354 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: And I wasn't ready for that transition. I was still 355 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: taking in deial with the guys, jumping into groups at 356 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: batting practice. What was that transition like for you? 357 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 2: I loved it. I absolutely loved it. And if I 358 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: if I would stay to the minor league's manager, I 359 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: would have been fine. Spokane especially was a great way 360 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: for me to start because of these young kids coming 361 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 2: in and you have to deal with so many different 362 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 2: things in the minor leagues, as you probably found out, 363 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: you know, anything from you know, family issues, homesick things 364 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 2: like that. So it just teaches you how to deal 365 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: with the different personalities, you know what, learned how what 366 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 2: makes guys tick. You got to look under the hood 367 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: at all these players and see how you have to 368 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 2: adapt to coaching them. So it was just a great 369 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 2: experience for me. I loved it. Now you brought up 370 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: the you know, coaching the minor leagues, you brought up 371 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: some good things too. You did everything in the minor leagues. 372 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 2: You coach third, you had to make the moves, you 373 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: had to think about the pitching, you had to you know, 374 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 2: keep make sure the lineup card was straight in the 375 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: dugout and all and and that really helped her or 376 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: me for managing them in the major leagues. Actually, it 377 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 2: was easier to major leagues when once I was up 378 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: there as far as the game, because you know, you 379 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 2: you don't get a chance to drift mentally as a 380 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: minor league manager because you get so many different things 381 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,239 Speaker 2: you got to do, and you might be out in 382 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 2: that third base coaching box and so you're trying to 383 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: communicate your pitching coach whatever. But yeah, that's you know, 384 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 2: just a special time my years in the minor leagues. Yeah. 385 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, who broke the lamp in the hotel room. You 386 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: don't have to worry about in the big. 387 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: Leagues stuff like that. 388 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: Felipe gave me some great advice. 389 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: He was managing the Giants at the time, and he said, Frankie, 390 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: make sure that your players get there before you. 391 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 3: The biggest mistake minor league coaches make is they. 392 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: Want to climb that ladder and get to the big 393 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: leagues as coaches and and and they they lose focus. 394 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: And he said, make sure your guys get there before you. 395 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: And when you walk into that major league clubhouse someday, 396 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: obviously I transition to broadcasting, all those guys will be 397 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: thankful that you helped them get to the big leagues. 398 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love for Lebay. First of all, I got 399 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: to start there. You're talking about Hall of Fame. I 400 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: think this guy should go into Hall of Fame with 401 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 2: what he did as a player, what he does a manager, 402 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: broke barriers for the Latin players coming from the Dominican. 403 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, we're very close, and he was kind of 404 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: he was like a mentor to me. I would pick 405 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: his brain, you know him, He's got that great wisdom, 406 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: these great sayings, and in fact, in San Francisco, he's 407 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 2: in my office all the time. In spring training, he 408 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: was there every day. And still keep in touch with him. 409 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, the special Man. 410 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be talking to you if it wasn't 411 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: for him. He was a guy that called me up 412 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: to the big leagues and he's one of the biggest 413 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: influences of my life. I'm sure there's a lot of 414 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: players that feel the same about you. Okay, we'll end 415 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: on this one. A fun one, your six all time 416 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: in managerial ejections with eighty nine. 417 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 3: Tony's Italian. 418 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: He's kind of fiery, like we both get that, right, 419 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: you give it Tony, any advice about how he handled fires? 420 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: I don't. 421 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a lot of ways to get 422 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: ejected now, especially with the ABS coming next year. But 423 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: like you know, you talked about kicking buckets in the dugout. 424 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 3: You were pretty famous for snapping on umpires. 425 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, though, great point. It's gonna be hard 426 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: for anybody to get thrown well, Bobby Coxon never get approached. 427 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: But even you know, if you get eighty nine, I mean, 428 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: that's I mean, it's not crazy, but that's a lot. 429 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: I don't see that happening now. I mean, we're there's 430 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: no argument anywhere because you can replay everything. You know, 431 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 2: the ABS, that's that's going to change. That was your 432 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 2: last chance get thrown out on pitches and if you 433 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: use them up with shame on you. That's your fault. 434 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: And so I don't see guys getting thrown out anymore now. 435 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: You know, occasionally you have, they'll do it, replay and 436 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 2: they'll reverse it, and the manager, you know, still go 437 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: out there and argue, which I never never did. That 438 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: never understood it. I did one time, and I take 439 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: that back. Jonah Hine. They got him for blocking the 440 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: plate against the White Sox. He wasn't even in front 441 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 2: of home plate. They overruled you know, the blocking the 442 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 2: plate deal, but yeah, that's pretty much gone. So you 443 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: know the Billy Martin's and Losorda's and you know those 444 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: Panela was the best, but those those acts, you know, 445 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: I think baseball will miss. 446 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're sterilizing the game a lot right now. 447 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: All right, Bach, I'll let you go. Man, Thank you 448 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: so much for coming on. I really really appreciate the 449 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: podcast is new. It's just starting out. 450 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 3: A lot of Giants fans are paying attention. We're all 451 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: so happy that you're back in the. 452 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: Orange and Black, and I know you're such a valuable 453 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: resource to Tony and the whole organization. 454 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: I'll look forward to seeing in Scottsdale. 455 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 2: Boach. Hey, back at you. I look forward to it. 456 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: See you soon, all right, Bruce Bochi joining splash Hit territory. 457 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I don't fanboy much when I interview people, 458 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: but I got to know Bruce toward the end of 459 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 1: my career as a broadcaster, and he was always come 460 00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: up to me around. 461 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 3: The cage ask how doing. 462 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: And then when I came back to San Francisco, we 463 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: would sit up in the press level where Susan sits 464 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: and sit next to each other. For games, and I've 465 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: never heard a player ever say a bad thing about 466 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: Bruce Boci, not once, And that's hard as a manager. 467 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 3: You can't please everybody all the time. 468 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: And when we were sitting up in the booth, and 469 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: this was when Gabe was managing in Farhama was part 470 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: of the regime, we were talking about philosophies about baseball, 471 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: and we're on the same page about how this whole 472 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: thing works. Obviously, he's won. 473 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: Four World Series. 474 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: He knows what he's doing, He relates to players, he 475 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: can he can relate to all corners of a clubhouse 476 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: and communicate with players and then just run a game 477 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: with feel and analytics and knowledge. 478 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 3: Is good as anybody I've ever been around. 479 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: But it was such a pleasure to get to know him, 480 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 1: not on the level that his players got to know him, 481 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: right because, like he just said, you're with each other 482 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: eight months out of the year, but to watch maybe 483 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty games, sit next to him, pick his brain, 484 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: and I think at that time he was a little 485 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: bit frustrated in the way the organization was moving, and 486 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't think they were utilizing a Hall of Fame 487 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: future Hall of Fame. 488 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 3: Manager like the way he should have been utilized. So 489 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 3: it's just so cool to see him back in the fold. 490 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 1: It's so cool to see him and Buster back together, 491 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: and that how that whole dynamic is kind of switched. 492 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 3: We're now Buster is his boss, so really really cool stuff. 493 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: Big for the podcast, Big for all you Giants fans watching. 494 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: We can't thank Bruce Bochi enough. 495 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: All right, that's another edition of Splash Hit Territory, one 496 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: of my favorites. I don't usually watch these because I 497 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: hate watching myself. I'm listening to myself, but this is 498 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: one I might check out again. Thanks for listening, Thanks 499 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: for watching. Like and subscribe. You can find us on 500 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: YouTube and anywhere you get your podcast. Yeah, there it is. 501 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: Subscribe to splash Hit Territory. Let's go you guys, Tell 502 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: your friends, tell your family, Tell somebody on the street, 503 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 1: tell somebody that don't know. 504 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 3: We want to get everybody on here. 505 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: Like, we're going to be doing three shows a week 506 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: during the season. Super excited about that. We can actually 507 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: do some x's and o's and breakdown games and we're 508 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: not just trying to figure out what to talk about. 509 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: So it's about to get really really fun, all right, 510 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: Have a great day, everybody, Thanks for watching. Like I 511 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: always say, on the way out, swing heart in case 512 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: you hit it. 513 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: It's my motto in life.