1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: We want this to be an episode where shit hit 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 2: the fan at work, or something went down in an 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: interpersonal relationship and you're like, I'm just not really feeling 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 2: it today. We want you to be able to come 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: back to this episode and be reminded of why you 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: are enough, why you are dope, why you are magic. 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration, 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: or a fresh perspective. If you have any AHA moments 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: or appreciate anything from this episode, please leave us a 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: review to let us know we're on the right track. Also, 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: we release episodes every Friday, so be sure to subscribe 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: on iTunes and visit cultivatinghearspace dot com to access our 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: exclusive after show and other bonus content from the Patreon tab. 15 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: women like you. 17 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: We're your hosts. 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: Doctor Dominique Broussard, a college professor and psychologist. 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. In a 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,639 Speaker 3: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, please 21 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 3: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from 22 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: fibroids to fake friends and create a safe space where 23 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: black women can just be. 24 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 4: Hey, lady's doctor dom here from the Cultivating her Space podcast. 25 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 4: Are you currently a resident of the state of California 26 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 4: in contemplating starting your therapy journey? Well, if so, please 27 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 4: reach out to me at doctor Dominique Brussard dot com. 28 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 4: That's d R D O M I ni que b 29 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: r O you ssard dot com to schedule a free 30 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 4: fifteen minute consultation. 31 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: I look forward to hearing from you. Our quote of 32 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: the day Embrace what makes you unique, even if it 33 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: makes others uncomfortable. That quote comes to us from the 34 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: beautiful Janelle Monnette, So I'm read it one more time 35 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: for the folks in the back. Embrace what makes you unique, 36 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: even if it makes others uncomfortable. All right, See you 37 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: know how we do? 38 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: Go ahead? 39 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 2: When you hear this quote, what do you think? What 40 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: comes up for you? 41 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: I feel like this should be in a book of 42 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: African proverbs because it's a whole word. 43 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: I love it. 44 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: I think it's great. I think it's something that many 45 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: of us probably don't really tap into until we're older, wiser, 46 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: have lived some life experience because It's not easy, you know, 47 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: to embrace what makes you unique, especially. 48 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: When it makes other people uncomfortable. 49 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: But I think these are wise words. My sister Janelle 50 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: Monette and I'm fuck it yes. 51 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: The same same. I think that it It hits on 52 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: what we're going to talk about today, right, just about like, 53 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: embrace who you are and the things that make you 54 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: who you are. And let's not worry about how if 55 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: other people are uncomfortable with that. If other people are 56 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: uncomfortable with that, that is their stuff, not yours. 57 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: That part So Lady, by the episode title, you can 58 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: probably see that we're going to be talking about black 59 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: women today. And there's always, you know, a good time 60 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: to talk about black women. But I thinkarticular, there were 61 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 3: some things that Dom and I were discussing, and we 62 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: want to talk about why this is important, and then 63 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: we want to share some of our stories, fun stories 64 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: about black women that just reminds us of why we 65 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: love being black women and why we appreciate black women. 66 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: So we could probably all use this dose of love, positivity, 67 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: and care, especially with just everything going on in the 68 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: world these days. 69 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: So Dom, what are your thoughts on that in general? 70 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: Well, I think in this present moment, at the moment 71 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: that we are recording this podcast, At this moment in 72 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: time and in history, we black we as in black women, 73 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: are being shit on from multiple angles, right, I know that, 74 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: Like as I think about the history, like the progression 75 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: of our podcast, and I think about the things that 76 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: have happened at various points as we've been recording episodes, Right, 77 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: I think about decades ago when there were statistics out 78 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 2: about black women not being being the least likely to 79 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: be dating, you know, to date black women, like all 80 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: these negative things about black women less desirable, less desirabl Yeah, 81 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: that's what it was, right. I think about currently what 82 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 2: really feels like an insidious attack, particularly by black men, 83 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: And I think that's the thing that makes this particular 84 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: point in history really challenging, is that a lot of 85 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: what we a lot of the negativity that we are experiencing, 86 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: is coming from black men. Over the last couple of weeks, 87 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: in particular, I've had conversations with various women in my 88 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: life about how black men have been negatively engaging us 89 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: right as as a whole. And so I think about 90 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: this current inflection point, I think about historically, generation centuries 91 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: of black women being simultaneously disrespected and mistreated and being 92 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: our ways of being being co opted by the very 93 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: same people who claim to hate us so much. 94 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we're definitely, definitely some interesting times. We're 95 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 3: not going to go into detailing it because it depending 96 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 3: on Hopefully when you listen to this. This can be 97 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: something that is like that's far in the past and 98 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: it's not fitting for whatever's happening in the world whenever 99 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: you hear this particular episode. But I do want to 100 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: emphasize that we're not saying that this is coming from 101 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: all black men, because you know, whenever we have these conversations, 102 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: people are like, well, not all black men, because I 103 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: know for me, yes exactly, we know that because I'm like, 104 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: we already know somebody listening is going. 105 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: To be like, wait, my black man is good, and 106 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: that's good. 107 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: But what we've seen in the media, yes, we are, indeed, 108 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: and what we've seen in the media are like these 109 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: certain voices that are being highlighted and that are just 110 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: too not protecting black women, not standing up for black women, 111 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: and just like you said, shitting all black women. 112 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: So this one is for us. 113 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: That's why we have this platforms we can literally uplook 114 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: our community. 115 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: So let's just talk about. 116 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: The importance of celebrating black women. Okay, First things first, 117 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: self love and self care. Yeah, right, when we ie 118 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: librate each other, When we celebrate black women, it encourages 119 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: a culture of self acceptance and self care. And I 120 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: believe that generations, you know, behind us, they're looking at us, 121 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: they're role modeling the behavior that we have. 122 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: And it all starts with ourselves. 123 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: Right as a black woman, If we don't love ourselves, 124 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: it's going to be very difficult to love our community. Okay, 125 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: So quick story dom So me and baby Z where 126 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: we were just, you know, spending some quality time yesterday. 127 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: And there's this song that I heard that I'm gonna 128 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: have to share with you because you know, I'm very 129 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: intentional about music and the affirmations and whatnot. And the 130 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: song is on my abundance playlist and I heard it 131 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: when I went to an Abraham Hicks event and the 132 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 3: song is called I Can Do It. So literally, throughout 133 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: the song, it's I can do it, I can do it, 134 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: That's what they're saying. Am My daughter just she loved it. 135 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: Her eyes just lit up because there's a child's voice 136 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: in the song, and there's also an adult voice and 137 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 3: she heard them singing, and so now she's just singing, 138 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: I can do it. And then I was trying to 139 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: open up something and she's like, you can do it, mom, 140 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: and I. 141 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: Was like, oh, the song. 142 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: It just felt so sweet hearing her say that. So 143 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: I say about to say, when we exhude self love 144 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: and we have self care practices in place, and we're 145 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: celebrating black women, the people, the youngins, our babies, they're 146 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 3: looking at us, watching, they're watching, right, And so it's 147 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 3: very important for us to continue to do that. 148 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: And I think also too, how we treat ourselves teaches 149 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: those around us how to treat us. 150 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: Right. 151 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: Yes, So when I treat myself with love and care 152 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: and concern, what that shows the people around me is 153 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: that if they're going to be around me, they also 154 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 2: need to treat me with love, care and concern. 155 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 156 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: And then because the level of influence that we know 157 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: we have on the world, like you said, the behaviors 158 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 2: that we engage in that demonstrate our love and care 159 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: for ourselves, then we see other people engaging in those 160 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: same behaviors towards themselves. 161 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: Right. 162 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: And when you were in a space where you were 163 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 2: loving yourself. That gives you then the capacity to engage 164 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 2: in community care. And as black women, we community is 165 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 2: where we thrive. I don't care how introverted you may 166 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 2: be and how much time you need to be by yourself. 167 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 2: If you are a black woman, you know there is 168 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: nothing like being in community, being in holding space with 169 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: other black women when we are showing love for each other. 170 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a safe, comfortable space with black women who 171 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: look like you and like that. That's magical. That is magic, Okay, 172 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 3: yes it is, Yes, it is. 173 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: And so speaking of magic, I want to make sure 174 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 2: that we shout out KASHAWNA. Thompson and I want to 175 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 2: make sure or Kashawan Thompson. I want to make sure 176 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 2: I'm giving respect to her name, Kasehawan Thompson, because every 177 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: time we use that word or use that phrase black 178 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 2: girl magic or black women are magic, right. Kasehawan was 179 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: the one in twenty thirteen who put out a tweet 180 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: saying black girls are magic and then shortened it with 181 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: that what we now know as the hashtag black girl 182 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 2: magic right, which then led to like Beverly Bond, creating 183 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: this whole platform and having the award show Black Girl's 184 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: Rock and then we know how it's gone from there, right, 185 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: and the level of cultural impact that it had, which 186 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: takes us to our second point of why like just 187 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: highlighting how amazing we are, like our level of cultural 188 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: impact that it took that one black woman had that tweet. 189 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: And I don't remember if that was the language we 190 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 2: use back then, but today we would say that with 191 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: viral right, and so know our impact right, Like, lady, 192 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: when you think about the small things that you do 193 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: that then you see somebody who might not look like 194 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: you all of a sudden doing remember remember your impacts 195 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: that oftentimes your mere presence changes the culture of the 196 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: space that you're in for the better. 197 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh absolutely, yes, girl, that is a fact. 198 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: Hey lady, it's Terry here, dom and I want to 199 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 3: take a moment to thank you for choosing to listen 200 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: to our podcast. We love you for real, and we 201 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 3: want to give you a chance to learn more about 202 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 3: what's important to us. 203 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: So tell us what you think about this. 204 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 5: Imagine a world where you have a chance to get 205 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 5: featured on the Cultivating her Space podcast and share your business, 206 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 5: brand or perspective with millions around the globe. Imagine joining 207 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 5: our monthly virtual video check ins where you can connect 208 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 5: with like minded black women like you and share your 209 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 5: ideas and episode suggestions with Terry and I. 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And lady, Black 239 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: women have played a pivotal role in shaping culture across 240 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 3: various domains right music, art, literature, fashion, and the list 241 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: goes on and on, right, and so why celebrating our 242 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 3: contributions and reminding other generations about this as well? It 243 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: acknowledges our influence. We have to talk about our own 244 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: stories and what we've done because a lot of times 245 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: you know they're not going to do it right, and 246 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: if they don't, we should be doing it for ourselves anyway. 247 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: It promotes a deeper understanding of our unique experiences, perspectives, 248 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 3: and the impact that we've had we have to tell 249 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: our stories and we need to be celebrating ourselves. So 250 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: that is why. That's another reason why it's important. And 251 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: number three is kind of leads on to what Don 252 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: was sharing. Just empowerment in general, right, honoring the achievements 253 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: and voices of black women. Right, it serves as a 254 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: powerful reminder of our strength and also what's possible, because 255 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: we all know that representation matters. And I don't know 256 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 3: about you, but when I see another Black woman that 257 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: does something incredible, I'm like, oh my gosh, I am 258 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: so inspired. I'm so happy for her, and that means 259 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: I can do something right too. Like, that's what it 260 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 3: does for our community, Right, It creates a supportive environment 261 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: that empowers others that come behind to reach farther, reach higher, 262 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 3: and go farther. 263 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: Yes, I think about what we do like the little things, 264 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: and we'll talk more about this later, about like the 265 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: women in our lives who have impacted and celebrated us. 266 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: But I think about the importance of that, that of 267 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 2: how amazing it feels when you are doing something and 268 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: it could be any it could be the mildest thing, right, 269 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: and another black woman lifts you up. That makes a 270 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: world of difference because oftentimes we are in spaces where 271 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 2: we feel like we're not we feel and chances are 272 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: it is the case that people aren't really giving us 273 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: the credit that we deserve, right, that they really truly 274 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: aren't seeing us for the amazing woman that we are. 275 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: And so what I love about us as black women 276 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: is that we we just have a way of lifting 277 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: each other up. Like you know, I think about walking 278 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: down the street, Yeah, and you see another black woman 279 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: and she might like something that you're wearing. And let's 280 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 2: just let's say, for example, you're wearing a flower a 281 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: flower dress, right and you and you are just rocking 282 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 2: that dress and you see another black woman and that 283 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: other black woman is like, Okay, flower dress, I see you. Yeah, 284 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 2: And just how that makes you feel? 285 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 3: And Don, because I have you know, I told you 286 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: about the story before we started of the quick interaction 287 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 3: I had with a black woman in my building. And 288 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 3: I have deeper stories I'm going to share later, So 289 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 3: I'll just share that one really quick because it made 290 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: me laugh and smile and you laugh when I told 291 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 3: you the lady I was. We're speaking of empowerment right now, right, 292 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 3: And like Don said, it's a little thing. So I 293 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 3: was literally walking out of the elevator one day and 294 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 3: I had just like came from, you know, out of 295 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: my house, and I had some perfume or something on, 296 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 3: and this black lady walks by and she was like. 297 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: She said, what I say? 298 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: She said, she said, smelling all delicious. 299 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: It's like, oh sa. 300 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 3: It was just like random but also cute, and it 301 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 3: was something like only we would do if a guy 302 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 3: super creepy. 303 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: So coming from her like I felt seen. I was 304 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: like a girl like okay. So yeah, that's number three. 305 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: Number four is the legacy, right. So we we talk 306 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: about cultural impact, but that cultural impact has a like 307 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: leaves a legacy, right, And and so I think about 308 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: important is to past stories down about the things that 309 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: we have done as black women, and not only the 310 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: things that actually get written about in history books, so 311 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: like rules of Parks and Ruby Bridges, right, but the 312 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: every day stories. We're in the Yere twenty twenty four. 313 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: And I know that some people are like, in this time, 314 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 2: in this year, we shouldn't be having the first black 315 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 2: woman to do X, Y and Z, But we are right, 316 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 2: and it's important for our stories to be told. And 317 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 2: it's important for us to learn about those stories as well. Right, So, 318 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: thinking about centuries ago, the women who were doing things 319 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 2: that we're out here making waves, being the first in 320 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: areas that no one talks about. And I think about 321 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: what it is, what it's like for us now as 322 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: black women and some of the trail blazing things that 323 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: we're doing now as black women. So I can't even 324 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: begin to imagine what it was like fifty one hundred, 325 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 2: two hundred, three hundred years ago when our ancestors were 326 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 2: out here being the first one to do something, or 327 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: being the actual person behind some great invention, but not 328 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 2: getting the credit for it exactly, but doing it because 329 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: she knew what it would do for future generations. 330 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: That's a word. The legacy is so important. It kind 331 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: of goes back to what we talked about earlier around representation, 332 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: and by acknowledging black women's contributions to history, society, and 333 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 3: just communities in general, it reinforces the importance of our 334 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 3: impact to future generations because you know, we want to 335 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: keep the stories. We want to keep the stories going. Yes, yes, 336 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 3: all right, y'all. Number five, this is one of my favorites. 337 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 3: Number five is joy and celebration right, just to cultivate 338 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 3: more joy and celebration now and creating spaces for black 339 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 3: women allows us to or just creating spaces for us 340 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: to have expression of joy and creativity and community is 341 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: so important. And I was just thinking about how a 342 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: couple of weekends ago, I was out with my homegirls 343 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 3: and we were out super late, and we was out 344 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: throwing ass. We was traveling all around all around Oakland. 345 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: And one of the things I thought about when I 346 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: was out with my girlfriends is that we had so 347 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 3: much fun. And there's a certain way that we just 348 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 3: it's a certain way that we just do what we 349 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 3: do right. So we're out dancing, we're out late at night, 350 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 3: we're dancing. One of my homegirls is recording us dancing, 351 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: you know, just up dancing all people at the club. 352 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 3: Then we you know, one of my homegirls is twerking 353 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: my other homegirls smacking her ass. But it's like in 354 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: a loving, safe way. It's not like it's just it's nothing, 355 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 3: you know, it's all the samee. It's loving and it's 356 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 3: something that we get. It's like if you know, you know, 357 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, being able to celebrate your 358 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 3: friend being comfortable in her body, you know, being comfortable 359 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 3: in your sensuality and doing it in a safe space. 360 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 3: We don't often have a lot of spaces where we 361 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 3: can express those sides of ourselves in a safe way. 362 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: And so I think about Turk Church. 363 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: Right. 364 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: We've had Breezy and Bobby the sisters on our podcast 365 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 3: and they host Turk Church on Saturdays. Right, They used 366 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: to host it in Oakland, but I think it's enrichmentd 367 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 3: Now and Domini one of those classes. We had them 368 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 3: come out to the live show when we had our 369 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: live show in Oakland last year, and we were throwing ass, 370 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: Like we celebrate the multifaceted women. So yes, we get 371 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,479 Speaker 3: on stage and we inspire and do that and then 372 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: we also like to shake that ass and so we 373 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 3: were able to do all of that in a safe way, 374 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: and that is just so fun. 375 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: I love that for us. 376 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: I love that for us too, and I you know 377 00:23:53,119 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: what I appreciate is that we can we can create 378 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 2: ate joy anywhere, right, Like I think about almost anytime 379 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: I'm with girlfriends that when we are together and the 380 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: laughter that we create. I've seen people hate on it 381 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 2: and I've seen people envy it, right, like they wish 382 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 2: that they could, Like they're watching and it's almost like 383 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: you can see it in their face that they want 384 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: to join in, but they notice ain't for them, right, 385 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: and so and and I appreciate them not trying to 386 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: join in, and so I would. That's something else that 387 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: I just really love about us, like that, that level 388 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: of joy and that willingness to celebrate, right. I know. 389 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: I was at I was going out to eat with 390 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: a couple of friends and we were walking into the 391 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: restaurant and the hostess is asking us, you know, she's 392 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: bringing us to our table and she's asking, oh, are 393 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: y'all celebrating anything today? And we were like, yeah, that 394 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 2: today is a good day and we are here in 395 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 2: friendship like and it was, you know, like we didn't 396 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 2: have to have a specific thing to celebrate outside of 397 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: our own selves. Yes, we're here, that's the celebration, right. 398 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: And so, lady, as you're listening, I want you to 399 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: be reminded how amazing you are and that yet this 400 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: this podcast is for us, by us. You know that 401 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 2: we have over three hundred episodes that speak to the 402 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: multifaceted black woman, whether you are wanting to learn about 403 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: religon or throwing that ass in a circle. We got 404 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: you and everything in between, we got you because that's 405 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: who we are as black women. 406 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: That's right, you hit the nail on the head. 407 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 3: So go check out to other episodes, lady, because we 408 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 3: have been committed to this work for six plus years. Right, 409 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 3: it's crazy how time flies. That's recording our very first 410 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: episode and just saying, you know what, we want to 411 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 3: do something for black women, and so we have so 412 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 3: much content and so much has happened over the past 413 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: six and a half years, but we've been celebrating the 414 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 3: multifaceted black woman. So, Lady, one of the things we 415 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: want to do now is we want to talk about 416 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: just some stories that highlight our experiences with black women. 417 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: So I'm thinking, Domina are going to share some stories 418 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 3: and we'll ask each other questions and it's just going 419 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 3: to be conversational, lady. So we want you to feel 420 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 3: like this, You're on a couch sitting with us. You 421 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 3: got your wine or your water, whatever you're sipping, and 422 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: we're just chilling having some girl talk. So, dom when 423 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: I when we were thinking about this in pro pares 424 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 3: for this episode, there were two black women that I 425 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: thought of and I want to share these stories with 426 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 3: you because they were so special to me. So years ago, 427 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 3: when I was in grad school. I got to set 428 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 3: the stage before I tell the story. Okay, So I'm 429 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 3: in grad school and this was like more than this 430 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 3: was more than ten years ago, which is wild to 431 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 3: think about more than ten years ago in grad school, 432 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 3: and I had just gotten out of a very toxic relationship. 433 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 3: So I was in a space in my life where 434 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 3: I was like rebuilding and also finding out like who 435 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,239 Speaker 3: am I at? What was I I was like twenty one, 436 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, who am I at this age? And 437 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 3: what do I want out of my life? And where 438 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: am I going? And just trying to figure out all 439 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 3: the things as a young adult right living. This is 440 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 3: the first time I moved away from home by myself, 441 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 3: and so I'm there doing my thing, and I stumbled 442 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: upon this black woman online named Rosetta Furman, and she 443 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 3: had a brand called The Happy Black Woman, and I 444 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 3: found her blog and I was like in love. I 445 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: was like, oh my gosh, I'm obsessed like her. Count 446 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 3: She was such a great writer, her content was so incredible, 447 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 3: and I was like, this is who I want to 448 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 3: be I want to do blogging, like I want to 449 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 3: share my story. This is like my this she was 450 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 3: my role model. And I saw that she had opened 451 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 3: up an opportunity to work with her as an intern 452 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 3: for her company because she had quit her job. I 453 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 3: think she was like working in nonprofits and she quit 454 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 3: her job and she was doing the blogging full time. 455 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: And I was like, this is a messy, I'll do this. 456 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 3: So a bunch of people applied for the internship, and 457 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 3: I also applied, and I was very serious about this. 458 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 3: I put my best foot forward and I got the 459 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 3: freaking internship, y'all. And I was so excited. So I 460 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: got to work with Rosetta, you know, one on one, 461 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: helping up with her brand and all the things you 462 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 3: know that she had me do. But it was such 463 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 3: a special connection because it was a black woman that 464 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: was a little a little more experienced in seasoned than 465 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: I was, but someone who I saw myself in her. 466 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 3: And seeing that this other black woman was able to 467 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 3: do what she did, like it was so inspiring to me. 468 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 3: And so then getting a chance to meet her in 469 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 3: person for her live events and I just learned so 470 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: much from her. So it was so special and I 471 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: kind of followed her footsteps and I created my own 472 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 3: blog and I started hosting live events. 473 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: I think she started a podcast. She has a podcast 474 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: as well. 475 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 3: But Domin and I, you know, we were kind of 476 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 3: on our different journey by that point, but she influenced 477 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 3: me so much and just her commitment to herself, her 478 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 3: mission and promoting a happy black woman. It impacted my 479 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: life so deeply. And one day we may have it too. 480 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: We can get on the podcast because she has been 481 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 3: like a bixis and mentor for years and I just, yeah, 482 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 3: wanted to call that out. 483 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: So that's beautiful. I think it's so you know, it's 484 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: so important to want to honor the women in our 485 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: lives who have had such a positive impact. But then 486 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: also to think about, like from her perspective, that she's 487 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: out here doing her thing and not aware that this 488 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: is the level of impact she's having on you, right 489 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: and how now and when we go back to thinking 490 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: about cultural impact and empowerment and legacy, that the impact 491 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: that she's had on you has influenced you to do 492 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: things that are having an impact on other Black women 493 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: and then those women and so and it'll just keep going. 494 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: And that's so beautiful. 495 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 3: You can you think of any stories or anything in particular, 496 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: because I have another one in mind that I want 497 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 3: to hear from you too, Like what else what other 498 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: black women? 499 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, So when I think about so yours, yours is 500 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: more like a someone in particular, right, and how that 501 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: one person can then spark movement down the line. What 502 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: I think about is the importance of women in various 503 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: stages of your life, right, And so for me, I've 504 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: had black women in my life from birth, from day 505 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: from day one, right, I have had black women in 506 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: my life who have had such a profound impact on me. 507 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: You know, I think about the women in my family. 508 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: I think about you know, I mentioned on the I 509 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: don't know if I know, I do say it on 510 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: the po. I have said it my podcast that my 511 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: grandmother is my favorite, my favorite person in the world. 512 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: And so, you know, so thinking about my grandmother, thinking 513 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: about my mom, my sisters, my aunts, my cousins, and 514 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: then even multi generationally thinking about my niece, my nieces 515 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: and my goddaughters and you know, and so thinking about 516 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 2: the women in my family. So there's that stage. But 517 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: then thinking about the teachers that I've had along the way, 518 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: I've talked about this on the podcast before about I 519 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: consider myself privilege and blessed to have gone to school where, 520 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: like coming up K through twelve where I had majority 521 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 2: black teachers amazing, so amazing and so impactful. Yeah, I 522 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 2: think about the teachers that I had when I was 523 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: in Gifted. I think about some of the black women 524 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: teachers that I've had in that I had in graduate school. 525 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 2: And then like as I'm started, as I started my career, 526 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: like my supervisor during postdoc, doctor Kimberlee James, who was here, 527 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: who has been here on the pod, thinking about other 528 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 2: women who have been there in my career supporting me. 529 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 2: And then I think about my girlfriends, right, like my 530 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: best friend DeAndre, we've been friends for over their years, 531 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: like know, like so we've been friends since we were little. Wow, 532 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: Like that's been the best since we were little. Thinking 533 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: about friends that I still have from middle school, from 534 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 2: high school, from college, graduate school, and then the friends 535 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 2: that I have made as an adult, these amazing black 536 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: women who are all doing various things and excelling. You know, 537 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 2: I consider myself privileged that I have so many amazing 538 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 2: black women in my life who doing amazing things. I 539 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: think about the things that we go through throughout life 540 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: as black women, and how at every stage of my 541 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: life the role that having black women around me has 542 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: played in my development, in my ability to navigate whatever 543 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 2: life was throwing at us. So I think back to 544 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 2: like that self love and community care, the cultural impact, 545 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 2: the empowerment, the legacy, the joy and celebration. Every black 546 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: woman in my life, we've all experienced that together. 547 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 3: I just want to sit with what you share. That 548 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 3: was so you stated that so beautifully and I love 549 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 3: how it really you kind of presented this sort of 550 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 3: holistic view, like you said, from birth up until now, 551 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 3: of how black women have nurtured and supported and poured 552 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 3: into you from those experiences, and it just feels so beautiful. 553 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 3: I feel like I could sort of equate what you 554 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 3: just shared, like being just cuddling up with your grandmom, 555 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like I think about my 556 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 3: grandmother too. 557 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: Who is you know who has transitioned? 558 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 3: But that that's my girl, my favorite girl, and she 559 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 3: was so supportive of so many of my efforts and 560 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 3: believed in me. And so I appreciate the way that 561 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 3: you've shared, you know, how black women have impacted you 562 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 3: there is one other story I wanted to share of 563 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 3: one particular black woman because I was trying to think 564 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 3: of Although I do share the same sentiment that you 565 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 3: have around having this community of black women at various 566 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 3: stages in life, these two professional women just happened to 567 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 3: stand out to me, I think because I met them 568 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 3: at such a critical point in life. And so the 569 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 3: other woman that really impacted my life at that critical 570 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 3: point in grad school where I was like trying to 571 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 3: find myself and figure out who. 572 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: Do I want to become? 573 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 3: You know, you have to kind of figure out where 574 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 3: am I and then who I want to be, and 575 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 3: she really helped me. Her name was Her name is 576 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 3: doctor Kim Harris, doctor Kim Harris Lee. She's married now 577 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 3: and shout out to you, doctor Kim. So the story 578 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 3: with doctor Kim is that when I was in grad 579 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 3: school one this should go without saying, but I was 580 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 3: broke as a joke, Okay, Like I didn't have no money, 581 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 3: and at the same time, I could not afford therapy. 582 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 3: And so this was the first time in life that 583 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 3: I ever explored therapy, which is wild to think, like 584 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 3: after it all these years, right, twenty some years of 585 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 3: all this trauma. This was the first time, and so 586 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 3: I had reached out to various people my insurance. I 587 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 3: don't even think I had insurance. I couldn't go to therapy. 588 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 3: So I called doctor Kim where I reached out to 589 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 3: her via email because I found her online. She was 590 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 3: a black woman who was doing professional coaching for other 591 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,959 Speaker 3: black women and people in general in the Atlanta area. 592 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 3: And I remember having a consultation with her and I 593 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 3: basically told her like I don't I don't have money. 594 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 3: But for some reason she decided that she I don't 595 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 3: know if she saw something in me, but she said 596 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 3: that she would work with me for free, y'all. And 597 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 3: people don't do that, right, Like that's people don't do 598 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 3: that often? Should I say? 599 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 2: Yeah? 600 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 3: But this black woman invested in me in a time 601 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 3: that was so critical to me and when I needed 602 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 3: it most. And a couple of things that she did 603 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 3: for me was in addition to our sessions where she 604 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 3: was really like a mirror and was very honest and 605 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 3: transparent about areas that she saw I could develop, she 606 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 3: also gave me access to these incredible personality tests that 607 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 3: were so instrumental for my journey at that time. Of 608 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 3: me trying to figure out who am I, why am 609 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 3: I here, and what am I going to do in 610 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 3: the world. Those personality tests really helped to guide me 611 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 3: and like allow me to see myself in a different light. 612 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 3: And so with her guidance and support for Free, that 613 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 3: was just such a very impactful connection. So I just 614 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 3: wanted to shout her out because that was just so 615 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 3: kind of her to do, Like she didn't have to 616 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 3: offer that to me, and she did, and it really 617 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 3: was a game changer. It was a game changing experience 618 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 3: in addition to the work that I did with Rosetta Therman. 619 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 3: So I just want to shout out those black women, 620 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 3: in addition to the black women in my community, because 621 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 3: it means a lot. 622 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 2: It truly does. Like I think sometimes we get so 623 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 2: caught up in our day to day that we do 624 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 2: we aren't necessarily thinking about the impact that we're having 625 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 2: on the people around us, right or that, or how 626 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 2: like one small act of kindness could be literally life 627 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 2: changing for someone in our world. 628 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's spot on, don you are spot on. I'm 629 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: just looking at our notes. 630 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 3: I know we have a little something something at the 631 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 3: end of the episode, but I know we also said, 632 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 3: we would talk about why we love being black women, 633 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 3: you know, and I do want to state that as 634 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 3: we share this stuff, lady, this speaks to our respective 635 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 3: brands of being a black woman, because I think there 636 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 3: are different brands of blackness, right, everyone shows up and 637 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 3: blackness means something different for each person. And so don't 638 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 3: be too hard on us, like this is our personal 639 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 3: experience that everyone has their own. And so don when 640 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 3: you think about why you love being a black woman, 641 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 3: what are some aspects that you appreciate about you being 642 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 3: a black woman or just about black women in general. 643 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, outside of what we've already talked about. Yeah, 644 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: I love the intangible way we are the shit, right, Like, 645 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 2: I think that there are aspects about us that it's 646 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 2: hard to verbalize, but if you're another black woman, you 647 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 2: know it, right, And when you encounter another black woman 648 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 2: who is exuding that, you you see it, you feel it, yes, 649 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 2: and it's something that we can't And I guess that's 650 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 2: kind of where Becausehawan Thompson came up with that, like 651 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 2: that concept of black girls are magic. Black women are 652 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 2: magic because there's something that is indescribable that we just 653 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 2: bring it to the table that nobody else can bring. 654 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 2: H So, yeah, that's what That's what I love about us, 655 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 2: is that like there are no we are just so 656 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 2: dope that there are no words that could fully encapsulate. Yeah, fool, 657 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 2: we are all of wool. 658 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: We are. 659 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 3: I love that so much, John, And I will say 660 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 3: that sometimes you said, I was writing this down, as 661 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 3: you said, as I wouldn't forget you say intangible way 662 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,280 Speaker 3: that we are the shit. And a lot of times 663 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 3: I think some of us don't often see it, but 664 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 3: society and people around us may respond in a way. 665 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: We're like, what's going on. 666 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 3: It's like, oh, they see the magic and maybe we don't, 667 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 3: and so they're responding in a certain way. I do 668 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 3: have a low list I want to share with y'all, okay, 669 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 3: because there are so many reasons that I love being 670 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 3: a black woman but also love black women. For me, 671 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 3: it's the complexion. It's the melanine for me, Like all 672 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 3: the beautiful shades, okay, like all the shades of beauty 673 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 3: and blackness. 674 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: I just i'd love it. You know. 675 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 3: I think about the different colors that I wear, and 676 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 3: it just pops. 677 00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: On the you know, on this camerado. I just love that. 678 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 3: Okay, it's the gravity defying hair for me. Okay, it's 679 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 3: the versatility okay period that I ain't gonna do too much. 680 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,280 Speaker 1: I got synthetic in today. 681 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 3: Also, I'm not gonna if you're watching on a video, 682 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna move this hair around too much. 683 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how the. 684 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 3: Synthetic does, but I'm talking like even the natural afro, 685 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 3: I'm loving it, right. 686 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: The braids I love. I love all of that. 687 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 3: I love to change my hair up and it's a 688 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 3: part of my creative expression and I just love that. 689 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 3: That's just a part of you know, part of many 690 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 3: of our experiences. That's the body as well to all 691 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 3: of that. Mm hmm whatever body that, whatever shape that 692 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 3: body may be, like, we love it, Yes, we're loving it. 693 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 3: It's the style. There's something about like the swag and 694 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 3: style that I'm just like, we did. 695 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 2: That, yep, yep. 696 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 3: Obviously the history and historical contributions and all that in 697 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 3: addition to the creativity. It's the creativity, the humor and 698 00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 3: like the little sayings that we have. 699 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: It's sad for me because like when I. 700 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 3: Call on social media down, I don't know about you, 701 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 3: but I love the comments section, and they're sometimes I 702 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 3: feel like the funniest, the funniest people in the world 703 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 3: are in the comments. 704 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: And a lot of times when I. 705 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 3: Go to those people's pictures, it's black women and they 706 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 3: be funny, and I'll be in that cracking up. 707 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: I just love it. 708 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 2: Yes, we say listen, we stay undefeated. 709 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: We're a little joking joke, right, Yeah, it's that, it's 710 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 1: the wit. It's the way of thinking. 711 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 3: I think for me personally, what I really love about 712 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 3: myself as well as like the way of thinking like 713 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 3: when I go into a lot of these predominantly white spaces, 714 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 3: like in corporate or just you know, in various meetings, 715 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 3: there's something that I bring. And I'm finally in a 716 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 3: place in life where I recognize that, oh, I'm bringing 717 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 3: something valuable. I used to be very insecure and self 718 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 3: conscious about, you know, being in these meetings with people 719 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 3: who went to Ivy League schools and they went to 720 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 3: Harvard and you know, Stanford and all this, and I 721 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 3: went to public school and I'm this little black girl 722 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 3: from Philly. 723 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,280 Speaker 1: But then I was like, wait, I'm bringing something unique 724 00:42:59,320 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: to the table. 725 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 3: So being able to appreciate that I love also our culture. 726 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 3: We just there's something I often it's so funny to 727 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 3: me how you can talk to various black women from 728 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 3: around the country. I'm not sure about outside of the US, 729 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,879 Speaker 3: but from around the country, and it. 730 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: Seems like we had the same upbringing. 731 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,919 Speaker 3: You're like, wait, gat y'all my mom used to say 732 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 3: this too, or like, y'all said this in your household too, 733 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,839 Speaker 3: Like how are we living in these We were living 734 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 3: in far like we were living far apart, right, and 735 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 3: we didn't have social media back then, but we had 736 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 3: very similar experiences. And I love that sort of cultural 737 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 3: connection that we have, like we know that, you know, 738 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 3: we're not just gonna be talking to our mom any 739 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 3: kind of way, Like that's just not what we do, 740 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 3: Like it's just not going to happen, you know. And 741 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 3: we know that what your socioeconomic background is too. There's 742 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 3: that common thread. Yes, but mom's not gonna play that 743 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 3: right or like doing the chores on a Saturday, or 744 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 3: just certain things that we experienced, and I just I 745 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,959 Speaker 3: think that's really cool. So those are those are my things? 746 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 2: Yes, I love all those things too, And I think 747 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,240 Speaker 2: you know, lady, as you're listening, you may at various 748 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 2: points you may want to bookmark this episode, and you 749 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 2: may want to come to specific points in this episode 750 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 2: and hit that on repeat so that you can get 751 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 2: this dose of energy boosts. You can get this extra 752 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 2: dose of confidence, it's extra dose of love that you 753 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,919 Speaker 2: might have a moment where you're you feel like it's 754 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 2: not there. You know, we want this to be an 755 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 2: episode where shit hit the fan at work or something 756 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 2: went down in an interpersonal relationship and you're like, I'm 757 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 2: just not really I'm just not really feeling it today. 758 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 2: We want you to be able to come back to 759 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 2: this episode and be reminded of why you are enough, Yes, 760 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 2: why you are dope, why you are magic. 761 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 3: Amen to that, okay, all the things beautiful, smart, like 762 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 3: even if you don't believe it. Ladies, sometimes we need 763 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 3: to look in the mirror and tell ourselves like those 764 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 3: eyes beautiful, that knows beautiful, those lips come on like 765 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 3: you are you are all right? And so as we 766 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 3: close out this episode, we did say this is a 767 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,280 Speaker 3: love letter to black women, and so it's only fitting 768 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 3: that we have the goat, right, I mean we have 769 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 3: a legend. 770 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 2: Yes, doctor Maya Angela, we know you are familiar with 771 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,879 Speaker 2: multiple of her poems, and if you're not, you need 772 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 2: to be, because a lot of her poems are love 773 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 2: letter to black women. One of the more common ones 774 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 2: is Phenomenal Woman. Make sure if you are not familiar 775 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,720 Speaker 2: with that one, that you you go and familiarize yourself 776 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 2: with that one. But right now, I am going to 777 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 2: read us an excerpt of and Still I Rise. You 778 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 2: may shoot me with your words, you may cut me 779 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 2: with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness. 780 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 2: But still, like air, I rise. Does my sexiness upset you? 781 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 2: Does it come as a surprise that I dance like 782 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 2: I've got diamonds at the meeting of my thighs? Out 783 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 2: of the huts of history shame? I rise up from 784 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 2: a past that's rooted in pain. 785 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: I rise. 786 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,800 Speaker 2: I'm a black ocean, leaping and wide, welling and swelling. 787 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 2: I bear in the tide, leaving behind nights of terror 788 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:53,760 Speaker 2: and fear. I rise into a daybreak that's wondrously clear. 789 00:46:54,719 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 2: I rise, bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave. I 790 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 2: am the dream and the hope of the slave. 791 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 1: I Rise, I Rise, I Rise. 792 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us today. Please note that our show 793 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 2: may contain conversations about self help, advice, self empowerment, and 794 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 2: mental health, but is by no means meant to be 795 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,800 Speaker 2: a substitute for an ongoing formal relationship with a trained 796 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 2: mental health provider. 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