WEBVTT - Listener Mail: Gremlins Have Pictures

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of

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<v Speaker 1>My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Listener mail. My name is Robert Land and I'm Joe McCormick.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the part of the week where we

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<v Speaker 1>read back some of the messages that you've sent in

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<v Speaker 1>over the past couple of weeks, having to do with

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<v Speaker 1>episodes on Pacific Island navigation, queuing and waiting for things,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh oh, I think there's a good one on

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<v Speaker 1>Fatim morgana and some stuff about weird house cinema Rob

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to do? This one from Chelsea Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Chelsea says I was just listening to part two of

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<v Speaker 1>the Waiting in Line episode and wanted to bring up

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<v Speaker 1>the schoolyard phenomenon of back cutting. This is ours when

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<v Speaker 1>the line exists and the cutter wants to be in

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<v Speaker 1>line next to a friend so they can chat during

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<v Speaker 1>the weight. The cutter asked to cut the friend, but

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<v Speaker 1>the friend replies no, but you can back cut me,

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<v Speaker 1>and the cutter joins the line right in back of

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<v Speaker 1>the friend, hence back cut. I remember this as being

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<v Speaker 1>like a situation of like, uh, I will allow you

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<v Speaker 1>to get in front of me, and then that person

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<v Speaker 1>obliges by letting you get in front of them, which

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<v Speaker 1>you know is not an honest way to go about things,

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<v Speaker 1>of course not, but it it kind of matches up

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<v Speaker 1>with that sort of childhood level of figuring out how

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<v Speaker 1>to blatantly cheat and how to blatantly bend the rules

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<v Speaker 1>in your favor, uh in ways that that you know

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<v Speaker 1>aren't gonna fly outside of elementary school anyway. They continue. Thus,

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<v Speaker 1>the friend gets to hang out with their buddy without

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<v Speaker 1>changing their spot in the line. The cutter gets to cut,

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<v Speaker 1>and the person right behind them can't ultimately do anything

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<v Speaker 1>about it. The person behind may protest about being cut,

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<v Speaker 1>but the reply from the friend would be that they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't front cut you, they back cut me, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was the end of it. And I will add that

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of ingenious and that we one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things we discussed in queuing is that it's the

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<v Speaker 1>person that immediately was cut in front of that has

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<v Speaker 1>the most like responsibility of outrage. And you're already putting

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<v Speaker 1>them in a position where they're not going up against

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<v Speaker 1>one cutter, but a cutter and a co conspirator, So

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<v Speaker 1>they're already outnumbered in this scenario, right, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting that we internalize that as thinking of uh

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<v Speaker 1>cutting in line as an offense primarily against the person

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<v Speaker 1>right behind you where you cut. In fact, it's affecting

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else in line, right, everybody else behind that point

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<v Speaker 1>in line has now been cut in front of UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think because of this social convention where it's

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<v Speaker 1>the person directly behind the intrusion point who has the obligation,

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<v Speaker 1>we somehow naturally see it as like purely an offense

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<v Speaker 1>against them personally. And yet obviously, I mean, like I

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<v Speaker 1>think from the rest of Chelsea's email, it's clear that

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<v Speaker 1>even kids into it that there's something wrong with this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like you can easily get at control where if you

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<v Speaker 1>joined the line and then you just announce that you

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<v Speaker 1>will now be back cutting everyone. You know, everybody can

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<v Speaker 1>backcut anyway. Yeah, they continue as the person behind them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll aways felt conflicted because whether the cutter was right

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<v Speaker 1>before or right after their friend had no impact on

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<v Speaker 1>my way time, but having the cutter right in front

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<v Speaker 1>of me felt like my special societal role as the

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<v Speaker 1>person immediately behind the cutter had been usurped by the friend.

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<v Speaker 1>I had been cut and it had been sanctioned, and

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't anything I could do about it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this was more common with the popular kids, but I

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<v Speaker 1>may well have engaged in it myself despite not having

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<v Speaker 1>that many friends. None of us are the angels we

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<v Speaker 1>think we were. I grew up in California, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious to know how widespread the term phenomenon is. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember it being relatively common in elementary school, occasionally in

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<v Speaker 1>middle school, and non existent in high school. The bit

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<v Speaker 1>of child lord no cuts, no butts, no coconuts is

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<v Speaker 1>was also British common, and was extra amusing in elementary

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<v Speaker 1>school because of the butts homophone. But that is the

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<v Speaker 1>obvious best thing to grace an anti cutting poster. Keep

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<v Speaker 1>up the good work, guys. I appreciate being engaged and

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<v Speaker 1>amused as you by you both as I walked my

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<v Speaker 1>dog into housework. I I'm not a fan of horror movies,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Weird House episodes are grade fine. Jesse ps.

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<v Speaker 1>Nearly every time Seth's full name is mentioned in the broadcast,

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<v Speaker 1>I repeat his name in my head is death. Nicholas Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>his October alter ego haunts me year round. Oh well,

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<v Speaker 1>that warms my heart. So I definitely got this when

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<v Speaker 1>I was when I was in elementary school, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember being called back cutting. I remember the phrase

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<v Speaker 1>front seat back seat. Did you ever encounter that? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I encountered that one. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>more what you were talking about. It's like the person

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<v Speaker 1>cuts in front of their friend, and then their friend

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<v Speaker 1>cuts right back in front of them, so it's effectively

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing, somebody just getting behind you in line.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, the other thing you say, Chelsea, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think is absolutely true, is yes, the popular kids are

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<v Speaker 1>more likely to do this. Kids at the elementary school

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<v Speaker 1>period are much more blatant about operating on the basis

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<v Speaker 1>of of thinking that they're elevated. Social status just grants them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's that other people don't have people. Adults behave that

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<v Speaker 1>way too, but they try to sort of hide it

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<v Speaker 1>more than make it. They come up with systems of

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<v Speaker 1>making it look like that's not what's going on, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think a part of this is sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the childhood awareness of how unfair systems exist, but then

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<v Speaker 1>they not getting the nuance of it, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>the gross injustice has happen every day all day, but

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<v Speaker 1>not all of them are out in the open. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the times they are hidden in ways that

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<v Speaker 1>are not apparent in this example of back cutting, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of cutting based on on social status and and hierarchy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I wanna read this next message from Jordan's. So

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan's says, Dear Rob and Joe, I've been listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the show for a couple of years, and I love

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<v Speaker 1>being able to idly learn while I work. I've really

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the recent series on queuing because well, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>really given much thought to it. I know that I

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<v Speaker 1>typically hate doing it. I can't remember if you discussed

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<v Speaker 1>queuing and animals or I just missed it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>have seen it performed in horses. I work on a

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<v Speaker 1>nonprofit wild horse rescue ranch in California, where we have

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<v Speaker 1>over a hundred in our care. On the hot summer

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<v Speaker 1>days of the California desert, it's not uncommon to see

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<v Speaker 1>a half dozen horses at a watering trough at once.

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<v Speaker 1>While typically there is plenty of room for multiple horses

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<v Speaker 1>to access the water at once, I have witnessed a

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<v Speaker 1>line forming to get a drink. The difference is that

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<v Speaker 1>horses adhere to a very strict quote pecking order, and

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<v Speaker 1>the one at the top gets to drink first, regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of when they join the queue, they go to the front.

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<v Speaker 1>In the case of line integrity you mentioned, if an

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<v Speaker 1>individual lower in the pecking order tries to line jump,

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<v Speaker 1>the one behind will almost always run them out of

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<v Speaker 1>the line, while the horses ahead seem to pay no

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<v Speaker 1>mind to what is going on behind them. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see this play out with non human animals

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<v Speaker 1>and makes me think that perhaps queuing is more instinctual

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<v Speaker 1>than one may have originally thought. I have attached photo

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<v Speaker 1>of a line forming among our older residents for you

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<v Speaker 1>to check out, and then Jordan's does indeed attach a

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<v Speaker 1>photo here of what looks like four horses lining up

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<v Speaker 1>to get to a big container of water. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what's going on here. This is yeah, great point.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say. The big thing that's different between what

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<v Speaker 1>you highlight here and and our queuing conventions is the

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<v Speaker 1>the principle that orders access. Obviously, in all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>animal system in like the Animal Kingdom, there will be

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<v Speaker 1>lots of ways of ordering access, but as you highlight

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<v Speaker 1>uh here, it tends to be a very just directly

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<v Speaker 1>and purely unfair pecking order based on some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hierarchy that's understood by the horses, some kind of dominance thing,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas a lot of what we were talking about was

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<v Speaker 1>the social convention of first in, first out ordering. And

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter if you get to the line and

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<v Speaker 1>you think you're better than everybody else in line, that

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<v Speaker 1>you know that they're not going to just say, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, you're better than us. You can go to

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<v Speaker 1>the front. Oh. And then finally the end, Jordan's says,

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<v Speaker 1>love the show, and I have to say, I really

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<v Speaker 1>missed regular Invention episodes. Keep up the great work, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and much love from Cali. Um that I think that's California,

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<v Speaker 1>not a person named Kelly c a l I. Uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to hear it. Thank you, glad to hear

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<v Speaker 1>you liked the Invention episode. So we still do them

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<v Speaker 1>from time to time, just not every week because I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you note, Yeah, we can't offer regular Invention episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>but we can offer the next best thing, irregular Invention episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and uh. And we actually have I believe we

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<v Speaker 1>have an Invention episode coming up really soon, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least we've been talking about doing one on a particular

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<v Speaker 1>invention topic, so they'll they'll keep We enjoy doing invention

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<v Speaker 1>based episodes, so they're they're definitely not going away. They

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<v Speaker 1>just they're in the rotation at this point, right, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>This one comes to us from Nan Nan Rights. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe and Robert. I've been a fan of the show

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<v Speaker 1>for a few years now and have especially enjoyed your

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<v Speaker 1>recent series on queuing. When you discussed the ambiguity involved

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<v Speaker 1>in most cases of line cutting, particularly taking another person's

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<v Speaker 1>parking space, it made me reconsider a time when I

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<v Speaker 1>confronted another driver who took my spot. I was waiting

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<v Speaker 1>to turn left into a parking space at Costco while

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<v Speaker 1>a pedestrian cross my path and another driver turned into

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<v Speaker 1>my intended spot as his passenger looked at me and

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<v Speaker 1>grin sheepishly. After I finally parked, I saw the family

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<v Speaker 1>from the other car and waddled my seven months pregnant

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<v Speaker 1>body over to them and chewed them out about their automotive.

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<v Speaker 1>Since the driver claimed he didn't see me, Your podcast

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<v Speaker 1>made me reconsider whether the other driver really hadn't seen me,

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<v Speaker 1>and whether I should have tried to be more genteel

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<v Speaker 1>in my approach despite my raging prenatal hormones. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>run into the family again while inside the warehouse, which

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<v Speaker 1>leads me to believe I terrified them so much that

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<v Speaker 1>they left without finishing their shopping trip. After listening to

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<v Speaker 1>your discussion, I'll definitely try to slow my role moving

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<v Speaker 1>forward and acknowledge the ambiguity and line cutting situations. Thanks for,

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<v Speaker 1>as always, for providing such interesting food for thought and

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<v Speaker 1>expanding my perspective on everyday situations. Always your fan. Now well, Nan,

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<v Speaker 1>glad to hear about your your broadening consciousness on this.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, you know, don't feel bad. We've all we've

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<v Speaker 1>all had moments obviously when when somebody does cut in

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<v Speaker 1>the parking lot. Even though you're you're like broader mind

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<v Speaker 1>from a distance, you know, the the astral level consciousness

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<v Speaker 1>would look down on you and say, don't overreact in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, it's hard not to. Yeah, alright. This next

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<v Speaker 1>message concerns both Fat Am Morgana which is a slightly

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<v Speaker 1>older episode, and Weird House Cinema. This is this is

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<v Speaker 1>a great email. So this is from John, and John says, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert and Joe Uh. This email is about an older episode,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was reminded of it the other day in

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<v Speaker 1>a funny way. Right now, I'm doing ecology work in

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<v Speaker 1>a remote field camp in the Alaskan Arctic, right by

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<v Speaker 1>the coast of the Beaufort Sea, where two miles from

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<v Speaker 1>the coast, But the tundra is flat enough that for

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<v Speaker 1>most of the summer we've been able to see the

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<v Speaker 1>sea ice on the Arctic Ocean as it stacks up

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<v Speaker 1>against the small barrier islands to the north. Anyway, as

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<v Speaker 1>a coworker and I were walking across the tundra to

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<v Speaker 1>a study area, we started talking about the ice and

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<v Speaker 1>I had to recommend your Fati morgana episode to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though the sea ice only builds up to piles

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<v Speaker 1>about ten to twenty feet high against the barrier islands,

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<v Speaker 1>for much of the summer, I've been able to step

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<v Speaker 1>out of my tent, look north and see a Game

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<v Speaker 1>of Thrones style ice wall stretching across the coast. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a long, tall, white barrier separating the land

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<v Speaker 1>from the ocean, like the supposed polar ice walls in

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<v Speaker 1>some flat Earther theories I've attached a picture of the

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<v Speaker 1>illusion for reference in front of one of our study areas. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is really impressive this image. It does, in fact

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<v Speaker 1>look like a yeah, like a Game of Throne style

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<v Speaker 1>ice wall. Yeah, the others are coming the optical illusions,

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<v Speaker 1>don't in there we also get islands stretched and floating

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<v Speaker 1>above the ground, a similar cloud wall to the west,

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<v Speaker 1>sun dogs, and even a vertical stretching of the Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>Range mountains to the south, resulting in what looks like

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<v Speaker 1>an Arctic version of Monument Valley. And another picture is attached,

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<v Speaker 1>and this one is even more interesting because it has

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I can't even describe what this looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>It they they're kind of stacked up and distorted vertically

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<v Speaker 1>with these ripples that look like, I don't know, big

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<v Speaker 1>tubes or waves coming out of the land. John goes on,

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<v Speaker 1>it's super cool to see how the high latitude optical

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<v Speaker 1>effects can dramatically distort how things look, and, as you've

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned before, makes it easier to understand why sailors claim

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<v Speaker 1>to see fantastic things like castles floating above the horizon.

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<v Speaker 1>My coworker really enjoyed the episode because she also works

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<v Speaker 1>at McMurdo Station in Antarctica, where they sometimes see icebergs

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<v Speaker 1>and utility trucks flipped and molded like putty by tricks

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<v Speaker 1>of the light. And then there are pictures attached to

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<v Speaker 1>Fatim Moorgana acting on the ice field and on utility

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<v Speaker 1>vehicles around McMurdo in Antarctica. Again looks very cool. And then, finally,

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<v Speaker 1>on a separate note, one of the minor challenges of

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<v Speaker 1>working up here is the constant sunlight interfering with sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>But You're weird House cinema episodes, while interesting, have helped

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<v Speaker 1>me drift off even when it's one am and still

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<v Speaker 1>light out. In particular, your Devil's Express episode has been

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<v Speaker 1>an excellent sleep aid on several brightly lit nights. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>my whole field crew watched Troll two together and absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>loved it. For several weeks this summer, a remote monitoring

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<v Speaker 1>device with the six digit code Nilbog kept watch over

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<v Speaker 1>the Arctic tundra, thanks in no small part to your

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<v Speaker 1>tireless b movie advocacy. Thanks for all the fun and

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<v Speaker 1>thought provoking conversations. Sincerely, John, look at that troll to

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<v Speaker 1>keeping people alive? Is this a life support device? Or

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<v Speaker 1>is it this maybe a piece of scientific keeping people

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<v Speaker 1>on on track on the job. I don't know. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a while since we've heard from someone who

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<v Speaker 1>goes to sleep with the episode. These is our episodes

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<v Speaker 1>as sleep aid, and I'm always I'm always interested to

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<v Speaker 1>hear that and glad that we, uh, we can help

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<v Speaker 1>you you know, achieve you know, proper level of sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, totally. We would never take it personally. People

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<v Speaker 1>are always very nice. They're always like, I use your

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<v Speaker 1>episodes to sleep, but not because they're boring. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm want to close out with part of a listener

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<v Speaker 1>mail here from James. James rode in basically to share

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<v Speaker 1>with us UH an Atlantic article by Ed Young uh

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<v Speaker 1>and this one was about monitor lizards in Australia digging

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<v Speaker 1>incredible corkscrewed nests. I haven't read this one yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put it on the to read list. I

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<v Speaker 1>mainly wanted to read James's email, though, because he weighs

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<v Speaker 1>in on a on a popular intellectual pastime of hours

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<v Speaker 1>and and uh pastime of our listeners trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out why Sean Conner Race character has a Scottish accent

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<v Speaker 1>Ian Highlander solved the mystery? James, Well, James, James does

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<v Speaker 1>have an interesting hypothesis. Year he says, uh quote also

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Connery Scottish accent in Highlander is from beheading a

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<v Speaker 1>Scottish immortal and acquiring his English language through the quickening

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<v Speaker 1>accent and all, thank you for your fantastic podcast, James,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty good. Pretty good. I don't know. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the quickening for if it is not for

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<v Speaker 1>acquiring things like like language? I don't know that This

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<v Speaker 1>also leads into what is the quickening for? Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>about power and uh, you know, amassing that power? And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't it's explained to the film. But but this

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<v Speaker 1>does bring up something I was thinking about just uh

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<v Speaker 1>in the background the other day, and it's something I've

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<v Speaker 1>thought about before. The immortals in the Highlander movies. To

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<v Speaker 1>what extent are they capable of change? Are they capable?

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<v Speaker 1>Did they have neuroplasticity? You know? Can they truly acquire

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<v Speaker 1>new language? Is or do they? Or is James right?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they only acquire these things through the quickening? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it only by absorbing the power and maybe to some

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<v Speaker 1>extent the intellect of others? That they are able to adapt.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise are they just always gonna because like the Kurgan,

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<v Speaker 1>the Kurgan is always the Kurgan. You don't get a

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<v Speaker 1>sense that he's really changed much. He's just updated his

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<v Speaker 1>look a little bit and learned how to drive a vehicle,

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<v Speaker 1>but otherwise he's he's still Kurgan to the core. See

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lesson to all of us. If you're not

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<v Speaker 1>willing to learn, grow and change as an adult, you

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<v Speaker 1>become the Kurgan. Yeah, but that meanwhile, I mean Connor McCloud,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he since he's still the sweet lad he

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<v Speaker 1>always was. But I guess there is a sense that

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<v Speaker 1>he's grown and he's learned, you know, he's had to

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<v Speaker 1>wrestle with loss and move through it. Uh, certainly in

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<v Speaker 1>ways that the Kurgan never has had to. So uh

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's ultimately what what what what the film is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to say to us here? We are all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go ahead and close the mailbag for today,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'd love to hear from you about any of

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<v Speaker 1>the topics we discussed here about recent episodes, upcoming episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>along past episodes. I mean, I don't know, fat A MORGANA.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even feel like that one was that old.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we just recorded that one. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was a little shocked to hear that one referred to

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<v Speaker 1>as an older episode. But I guess that's just how

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<v Speaker 1>time works now. Yeah, I guess it's a few months

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<v Speaker 1>of this time. Yeah, I don't know. It depends on Eily.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all relative anyway, So right in let us know

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