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Speaker 1: Monday night edition, I was listening to Today with with

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Speaker 1: So all of a sudden you take Josh Allen out

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Speaker 1: do not winning many football games is a case. Keenum's

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Speaker 1: the backup. Okay, now you win division, you get a

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Speaker 1: Miami home game. So now you only gonna have to

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Speaker 1: go on the road one time, you know one. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, Cincinnati could play a Kansas City they

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Speaker 1: knock each other out. So like this Josh Allen thing,

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Speaker 1: Miami is a huge There are the team in the

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Speaker 1: league that really needs desperately a home field playoff game

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Speaker 1: because in their divisions, the coldest city in the country

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Speaker 1: have sized Buffalo, Chicago and Buffalo. So I looked at

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Speaker 1: that Josh Allen thing and I thought, boy, what of

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Speaker 1: all the teams. People would instinctively think what a break

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Speaker 1: for the Chiefs. But Kansas City could go to Buffalo

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Speaker 1: and win. I don't doubt that for us wherever. But

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Speaker 1: Miami January, they're not winning that game. And so it's like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: what a break. And by the way, Miami is a

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Speaker 1: great watch I'm here for I love watching them play well.

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Speaker 1: Before because I want to ask you about Brian Kelly,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of people, you know, because you look

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Speaker 1: at the stats to a m v P. To me,

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Speaker 1: the MVP of the team is Tyreek Hill. And the

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Speaker 1: one thing I underestimated his competitive character. I thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: he'd be one of these a lot of times, definitely

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Speaker 1: in my life once the money really hit in the

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Speaker 1: mid nineties and the two thousand's guys would get that

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Speaker 1: third contract and then they just kind of whatever. But

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Speaker 1: it kind of you look back at Tyreek no wonder

451
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Speaker 1: he was so good with the Chiefs because his competitive

452
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Speaker 1: spirit was just like Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes. He's playing

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Speaker 1: like with twa who's clearly not as good as the

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Speaker 1: guy who's used to like every game really matters. He

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Speaker 1: has been incredible for them, though, And I can imagine

456
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Speaker 1: when a guy with that many accomplishments, whose super Bowl

457
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Speaker 1: champ no one else in the team has, that is

458
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Speaker 1: playing that hard every single week. I mean, call, he's

459
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Speaker 1: got seventy six catches. It's November seven. I mean he's

460
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Speaker 1: on pace four. The Cooper CuPy year last year was awesome.

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Speaker 1: This looks a little different. I mean, no one's even

462
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Speaker 1: around this guy, and it's it's been impressive. And I

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Speaker 1: know Andy always thought like people under Tyreek smart, like

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Speaker 1: his ability to learn football. He goes Mike McDaniel, smart guy.

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Speaker 1: They have hit the ground running, and to me, he

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Speaker 1: not to has carried that team. Yeah, no, I think

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Speaker 1: he was always a field tilter um. You know, I

468
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Speaker 1: said before this season, I said, Kansas City will be fine,

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Speaker 1: but they won't score as quickly. They'll score, you know,

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Speaker 1: sky More and and scant Ling and Juju Smith Schuster,

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Speaker 1: they'll they'll score, but they're not going to score like that.

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Speaker 1: You know. If you go look at the Tyreek killed Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey teams. What was remarkable about them? They trailed

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Speaker 1: Houston once in a playoff game twenty four nothing and

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Speaker 1: I never for a second thought they were out of it.

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Speaker 1: They was like having it was like the Yankees, you know,

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Speaker 1: but there was so much home run power that deficits

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Speaker 1: didn't really matter. This team can't fall behind twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Now they're gonna playoff game. They they they just they're

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Speaker 1: not going to be that fast. They don't have the

481
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Speaker 1: lightning um. And so, yeah, he's a field tilter. He's

482
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Speaker 1: there's not many in the league. He's just there's there's

483
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Speaker 1: no way that I mean, even corners in this league.

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Speaker 1: If you who as I talking to or listening to Oh.

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Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders told me the other day he's like, man,

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Speaker 1: a national championship in Notre Dame. He could never beat

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Speaker 1: Alabama with Notre Dame's teams, and he goes to L

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Speaker 1: s U. And I don't even care if you're in

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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly's family. I met Brian Kelly, didn't think you're one.

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Speaker 1: He beat in Alabama one just from a TV product

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Speaker 1: that was as good as college football gets. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's awesome to watch at night. But what he's done

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Speaker 1: with that team and you and me or West Coast

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Speaker 1: football guys, I mean Jade Daniels to have him play

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Speaker 1: that well this soon after it looks so ugly, I mean,

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Speaker 1: are you shocked by how good the L s U is?

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Speaker 1: I mean, beating Alabama? I know this isn't this isn't.

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Speaker 1: I was told by a scout the difference now of

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Speaker 1: Alabama five years ago is Georgia now flits with Alabama

543
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Speaker 1: on the top recruits, and then A and M in

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Speaker 1: Texas the last couple of years where the cash has

545
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Speaker 1: been able to buy some of them, so Alabama doesn't

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Speaker 1: quite monopolize just everything they once had. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you take out their best edge rusher, Will Anderson,

548
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: it's not it's a good d line, but it's not scary.

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Speaker 1: It's not like George's not what it was. And they

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Speaker 1: don't have like their second corner or their third corner

551
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Speaker 1: look like everybody else's second corner, the third corner. So

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Speaker 1: I think what's happened is Lane Kiffin, will Steel, the receiver,

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Speaker 1: Kirby Smart, two linebackers. To your point, they're losing about

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Speaker 1: six guys a year, and after about three years of that,

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Speaker 1: you don't have the depth. So because because a couple

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Speaker 1: of those guys never amount to anything, and then a

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Speaker 1: couple of them are three and done, so it's it

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Speaker 1: can add up fast. And I am surprised. I thought

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Speaker 1: year two, Um, you know, but what's interesting somebody told

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Speaker 1: me this about Lincoln Riley so Lincoln has really solved

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Speaker 1: USC's offense. But somebody told me, even with the transfer portal,

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Speaker 1: you can't solve both sides of a team in one year.

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Speaker 1: So Lincoln clearly said, I'm gonna solve my side. I

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Speaker 1: know offense, USC has one NFL player in their front seven. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: it will take him another transfer portal class. By the

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Speaker 1: end of next year. I think USC will be able

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Speaker 1: to play with Caleb in that National Championships. They're not

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Speaker 1: They're not there yet, so I figured it would take

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Speaker 1: I figured it would take Brian Kelly two years. But

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Speaker 1: the truth is l s U has got NFL bodies everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Somebody told me, uh, over the weekend. I got a

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Speaker 1: text yesterday that Brian Kelly basically told l s you listen,

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Speaker 1: you just need a grown up here, You just need

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Speaker 1: an adult in the room. You're fine, We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: fine very quickly. So, you know, one of the things

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Speaker 1: that not that it bothers me about the media, but

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Speaker 1: it's so transparent and the lack of self awareness by

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Speaker 1: the media is a kind of jaw dropping. The media

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Speaker 1: doesn't like Brian Kelly because he's uh, he's outspoken and

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Speaker 1: he's kind of you know, he's kind of that blustery.

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Speaker 1: Well in college, I think we judge you more in

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Speaker 1: your kids. In the NFL, no one cares the Belichicks

583
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Speaker 1: a dick as as long as you win. In college.

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Speaker 1: You know, sometimes when you think you're fraud I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm critical to Urban Mayer because I think he's kind

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Speaker 1: of phony. Sometimes you're judged differently, I think as a

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Speaker 1: college guy because it's a little more father figure like, right,

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Speaker 1: But if if you really look at Brian Kelly's resume,

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Speaker 1: but maybe people actually like him that are around him.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, I've never heard players really bash him. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I mean he I know one person that knows him

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Speaker 1: well and he really likes him. He said he's gotten better,

593
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Speaker 1: Like Tom Coughlin, he's evolved, he's easier now, he's loosened up.

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Speaker 1: He's loosened up over the last ten years. So, um,

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Speaker 1: I knew somebody that dealt with him early at Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame and they, like they said, he changed early to

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Speaker 1: mid to late. Remember there was the death of the student.

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Speaker 1: I think that took a little chunk. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think that that that was rough for his family. And

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Speaker 1: so people evolve um. But it's like, the media has

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Speaker 1: to be honest about this. That was the first time

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Speaker 1: he's ever faced Nick Saban with equal talent, and he

603
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Speaker 1: out coached him. And this is why I left. Everybody

604
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Speaker 1: was like, I can't. The media kind of took their

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Speaker 1: swives set up for leaving Notre Dame. Notre Dame's an

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Speaker 1: elite academic institution at a private school in a lousy

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Speaker 1: weather area of the country where you have to convince

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Speaker 1: kids to come play there. L s u you asked them,

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Speaker 1: and so he finally had. Somebody once told me that

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Speaker 1: about mac Brown. They're like, man, mac Brown's problem is

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Speaker 1: everybody wanted to play. He got it rolling so fast

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Speaker 1: that every Texas kid wanted to be a longhorn, and

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Speaker 1: he got a little sloppy and recruiting. But yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you just asked kids, do you want to play? So

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Speaker 1: you know mac came from Carolina, He's he's really working

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Speaker 1: the recruiting. And then all of a sudden, they get

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Speaker 1: rolling and every corner wants to play for and you

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Speaker 1: in protect us, and you get a little sloppy. Pete

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Speaker 1: they were taking kind of marginal kids that you know,

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Speaker 1: weren't great character guys, but everybody wanted to be a

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Speaker 1: trojan out west. You were around here, it was they

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Speaker 1: got anybody they wanted to. Yeah, So I just think

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Speaker 1: Brian the media has to come to terms with he

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Speaker 1: is in the top three or four in the country.

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Speaker 1: He's won everywhere. He's won in five different places, and

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Speaker 1: in like four of them fast like quickly. He's really good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's going to compete. I honestly think I

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Speaker 1: Ohio State this year. So I think his team is

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Speaker 1: you know, Ryan Day is a good coach, but there's

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Speaker 1: a toughness element that Urban brought to them that they

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Speaker 1: just don't quite have now. And that's years when guys graduate.

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Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, Harbaugh hangs his

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Speaker 1: hat on that. So like his teams, you know, it

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Speaker 1: took him a little longer probably than everyone that I

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Speaker 1: even I thought, but his team's tough. I just watched

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Speaker 1: Ohio State like they're a little too dependent on wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: you know, no Joel Clapp said it today. Ohio State

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Speaker 1: has a higher ceiling. Michigan's got a higher floor. Michigan's

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Speaker 1: bad game, it's still really good. Ohio State has quarters

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Speaker 1: and halfs. They were just tied with a one win

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Speaker 1: team at half time. Yeah, I mean northwester is a

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Speaker 1: decent one win team, but still no they Ohio State

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Speaker 1: has bad halfs. It's like Michigan has okay quarters, They're

647
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Speaker 1: never bad. And it's also the fastest Michigan team. You

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Speaker 1: know Ryan Day can coach. It reminds me a little

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Speaker 1: of Matt lafleura Green Bay, and I think I was

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Speaker 1: pat on the back. I said this, okay, I'll give

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Speaker 1: you that. I said by year two, I said, is

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Speaker 1: he better than McCarthy or is the division now just awful?

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Speaker 1: Chicago's worst? Remember McCarthy face Detroit with Matt Stafford. McCarthy

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Speaker 1: faced the Chicago t and Rex Grossman that got to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Minnesota has always been viable, and all

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Speaker 1: these extra wins, these three or four extra wins, they're

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Speaker 1: kind of coming in division. He's not beating anybody good. Well,

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Speaker 1: I look at I look at green Bay. This year

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Speaker 1: the special teams are wobbly. The defense underachieves. They don't

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Speaker 1: give it to Aaron Jones enough, they're gonna get waxed

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Speaker 1: by the Cowboys. And I kind of feel that with

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Speaker 1: Ryan Day, we've just given him, We've given him, annointed

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Speaker 1: him great. It's like I watched Oregon dominate Ohio State

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Speaker 1: and Columbus. I watched Michigan dominate them in both the

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Speaker 1: same way. Ohio State got pushed around, and even this year,

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Speaker 1: I've watched them and I'm like, they're not as physical

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Speaker 1: as Michigan. They're not as physical as Georgia. They're not. Yes,

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Speaker 1: some guys and hardball, some offensive coaches view themselves quarterback

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Speaker 1: wide receivers that that's what they're kind of personality. Hardbus

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Speaker 1: personality is really more O line D line. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's you know, for a former quarterback. He doesn't come

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Speaker 1: off like a former quarterback. And I think that's all

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Speaker 1: always translated into his teams. And last year was the

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Speaker 1: first time when it felt like the talent he had

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Speaker 1: recruited well enough and the quarterback play was somewhat equal.

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Speaker 1: And obviously this quarterback in theory should be better. But

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Speaker 1: you know, C J. Stroud, I think the media thinks

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Speaker 1: he's like some top two players people I talked to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the top two players are Bryce and Levice.

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Speaker 1: Like c J. Stroud is not gonna be a top

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Speaker 1: I don't think a top five quarterback, top five pick,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be a top five. Off the air today

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Speaker 1: with my staff we went and there's nothing wrong with that,

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Speaker 1: go and pick twenty. You know, we we had this

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Speaker 1: conversation with my staff today off air. We went to

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Speaker 1: a break and we were taught. I had just said

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Speaker 1: something about Michigan or college football, and I told the

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Speaker 1: staff off air, I just said, I just I just

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Speaker 1: would struggle the draft CJ. Stroud top ten. I just

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Speaker 1: I just don't see that. It Well, he's not a

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Speaker 1: great athlete. He's throwing too. It's a little to a

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Speaker 1: mac jones ish. The guys he's playing, I mean, Marvin

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Speaker 1: Harrison's kid looks incredible. I mean, the guys he was

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Speaker 1: playing with last here. So yeah, I'm with you, and

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Speaker 1: we'll see there's gonna be a lot of you know, pressure,

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Speaker 1: everyone's gonna be watching that game. And that's if Georgia

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Speaker 1: Tennessee and Bama l s U. I mean, i'd say

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Speaker 1: Ohio State Michigan's. You could argue even bigger given that

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Speaker 1: what this is gonna be at stake, right if they're

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Speaker 1: both undefeated, go into that game. But we'll let you

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Speaker 1: get to bed. And uh so this is fun camp.

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Speaker 1: This has been a live so for all the people

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Speaker 1: watching that will I'll put this on my social from

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Speaker 1: time to time. We have a deal it's called AMP

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Speaker 1: with Amazon where we kind of take a podcast style

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Speaker 1: and we just go live with it. It's like radio,

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Speaker 1: and uh it's fun. We just we buzzed through like

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Speaker 1: thirty five minutes like nothing. Man, that was great. I

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Speaker 1: tweeted to Colin, but I'm I'm I'm hacked. I'm locked out.

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Speaker 1: So people have my cryptocurrency, people, they have my stuff. Now.

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Speaker 1: Ellen has got a lot going on right now, so

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Speaker 1: I'm I don't know if I'm high on his on

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Speaker 1: his list to get back to. So, uh, I was

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Speaker 1: just want to see what happens alright, buddy, Okay later Colindy, Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's get to the mail bag at John Middlecoff is

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Speaker 1: the Instagram fire in those d m s. Get your

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Speaker 1: question answered here on the show. You got hack bad

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Speaker 1: on Twitter? You probably know this. I do kind of

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Speaker 1: hope it doesn't never come back. Wouldn't mind it? John,

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Speaker 1: as a fellow bald headed John, I'm a big fan

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Speaker 1: of the show. You were critical of Tah earlier in

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Speaker 1: his career, but now he has a system and a

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Speaker 1: set set of weapons that garner to his skill sets.

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Speaker 1: That being said, do you think Ta deserves some more

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Speaker 1: credit and maybe some m v P conversation? I think

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Speaker 1: we'd all have to agree toa is playing better than

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Speaker 1: I thought he would. But when I watch him, I

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Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm seeing some dynamic player. He throws

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Speaker 1: a very catchable deep ball, hangs up in the air

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Speaker 1: a little for me. If anyone's gonna win the the

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Speaker 1: m v P on the Dolphins, the biggest die hard

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Speaker 1: Dolphin fan would have to admit, Tyreek Hill would have

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Speaker 1: to win the award too. I can't win the ward

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Speaker 1: over Tyreek Hill like that. That just can't happen. So

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Speaker 1: is he better than I thought? Yes? Uh? One thing.

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Speaker 1: I've seen some clips of him with the media like

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Speaker 1: feels like he's pretty getting a lot more comfortable in

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Speaker 1: his own skin, which is cool. Um. I'm a big

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Speaker 1: fan of any human being, whether they're that talented or

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Speaker 1: not like, you know, not being insecure and not saying

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Speaker 1: that he was insecure, But it just feels like he's

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Speaker 1: very comfortable in his role talking to the media with

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Speaker 1: his teammates, and I respect that. Like, if your teammates

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Speaker 1: like you, there's something to be said about that. Hey, John,

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Speaker 1: love the pod. Why do NBA rests continue to call

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Speaker 1: so many touch fouls? Seems like more no calls would

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Speaker 1: make the product better, faster paced, more action. Not sure

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Speaker 1: the business case for this, any idea why the NBA

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Speaker 1: is not cut down on calling so many touch fouls?

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Speaker 1: Brian in Connecticut. I gotta be completely honest, Brian. And

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Speaker 1: maybe it's I haven't bought the NBA package. I probably won't.

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Speaker 1: I haven't really watched that many NBA games. But here's

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Speaker 1: what I tell Adam Silver. Why is your league already started?

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Speaker 1: It's November seven? How about started about Thanksgiving? You used

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Speaker 1: to start at Halloween, which I thought was a little

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00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: too early. Now you start like the middle of October.

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Speaker 1: Like I love baseball, I love it, but I them

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Speaker 1: playing World Series games against l s U Alabama. It's

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Speaker 1: one thing. If that game was early October, it's fucking

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Speaker 1: early November. Why can't we find a way to finish

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Speaker 1: the season way earlier? Why can't we find a way

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Speaker 1: in basketball to start the season a little bit later?

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Speaker 1: Make your TV product more valuable and get more money.

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Speaker 1: I say it all the time. People think the NBA

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Speaker 1: is some lock to get a big TV deal. I

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Speaker 1: call bullshit. We're in, if not headed into economic chaos.

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Speaker 1: The NBA's ratings have diminished for like the last five years.

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Speaker 1: They've lost half their audience. It's like, well, the NFL

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Speaker 1: keeps quadrupling, their audience keeps growing. Like, how is the

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Speaker 1: NBA going to just get a dramatically bigger media rights deal? Well,

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Speaker 1: life sports, Yeah, they're already making a lot. Why wouldn't

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Speaker 1: I just offer you the same if I'm ESPN, if

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Speaker 1: I'm t n T, if I'm Apple, Why do I

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Speaker 1: need to pay you way more? Because that's just how

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Speaker 1: it works? Bullshit? It like, what why your audience is diminished?

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Speaker 1: I that's why I do not get everyone that covers

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Speaker 1: and I listen to some decent amount of NBA podcast Like, well,

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Speaker 1: this this next media rights deal is gonna be three x.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be guys making eighty million dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: Is there. Are we sure because this last media deal

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Speaker 1: was horrendous for all the partners, t NT, ESPN, they

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Speaker 1: got throttled. Now they're just gonna pay three times when

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Speaker 1: they just paid and that deal wasn't good for them.

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Speaker 1: There's obviously a value to have the content, but Adam

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Speaker 1: Silver's league, let's face it, is in pretty big shambles.

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Speaker 1: So I can't speak to the refereeing. You know, the

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Speaker 1: officiating in the NBA has always been terrible, but think

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Speaker 1: of what has happened his last couple of weeks, the

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Speaker 1: Kyrie situation. Uh, I mean, the Spurs had a player

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Speaker 1: sending Dick picks two employees, and the Spurs are then

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Speaker 1: trying to act like they shouldn't be they should be

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Speaker 1: absolved from it because she's suing them too. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's come on, san Antonio Papovitch, where are you on

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Speaker 1: this one, buddy? Uh? They have another player on the

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Speaker 1: Hornets who just I think going to jail domestic battery.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's the the NBA. They got some issues

797
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Speaker 1: with the Steelers looking like they will get a top

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Speaker 1: three pick in the coming draft. What do you think

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Speaker 1: is the most likely scenario for them? Do you think

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Speaker 1: they ride with Picket or draft a new quarterback. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they've trade down for more picks. Any thoughts. I'll be

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Speaker 1: completely honest. I haven't thought about the Steelers draft. Uh,

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Speaker 1: but they would have to get one of the top

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Speaker 1: two picks to me to move off Picket. I just

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Speaker 1: think they are very likely to keep trying to build

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Speaker 1: this team up and build around pick It because it's

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Speaker 1: not like they have a new GM and a new coach.

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Speaker 1: I mean this coach and even the GM was there

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Speaker 1: when they drafted him. So I I think that Kenny Pickett,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get a couple of years. He just is

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Speaker 1: because in their mind, they can put a really good

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Speaker 1: team around him, get TJ healthy. Maybe you know, if

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Speaker 1: they get the eighth pick, trade back, accumulate some more picks,

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Speaker 1: trying to nail a bunch of picks. They have historically

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Speaker 1: drafted pretty well. Um yeah, I I I wouldn't. I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't assume Kenny pick It would be in any trouble.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious if you think Arizona will clean house with

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff in GM after the extending time in Kingsbury.

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Speaker 1: They're great, underperforming and it seems like big changes are

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Speaker 1: in order. Yeah, I would say that everything's gonna be

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Speaker 1: on the table there because you can't fire a player

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Speaker 1: right like you're not firing. They guaranteed him hundred seventy

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Speaker 1: million dollars, So Kyler is getting a couple of years here,

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Speaker 1: kylerine going anywhere. I think the only question now is

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Speaker 1: do they survive. My gut says no, but win five

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Speaker 1: games and we'll see. And that kind of feels it

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Speaker 1: feels like what they're headed toward, but not really, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Hey, long time listener. Despite my dad and

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Speaker 1: I living on different coasts California, New York, we both

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Speaker 1: listened religiously and often texts about the show. Well, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that Dad's a good guy. Was curious, who you

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Speaker 1: think are the top five and bottom five quarterbacks independent rosters? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the top five quarterbacks. Obviously Mahomes and Allen

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Speaker 1: would be right there. Brady and Rodgers would not be

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Speaker 1: based on this season. I mean, obviously Brady and Rodgers

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Speaker 1: you could grandfather them in. But if I'm excluding them,

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Speaker 1: I would say that Jalen has played like a top

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Speaker 1: five quarterback. So Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Jalen Ramsay, uh

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Speaker 1: Lamar's hit some rough times. You know two of to

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Speaker 1: me is I mean the stats look like it, but

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Speaker 1: you know it's the top five quarterback. I don't know

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Speaker 1: uh Dak uh Cousins. I don't know Gina. I mean

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Speaker 1: Gino has had a top five season. I guess you

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Speaker 1: could put two in there. Just when he's played, they've won,

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Speaker 1: which is the goal of the of the team. I

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Speaker 1: would say bottom five quarterbacks this year. Zack Wilson, Davis, Mills,

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Speaker 1: Russell would be in the conversation. I think Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: is pretty terrible, Baker Mayfield, Stafford has been pretty awful.

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Speaker 1: I think there'd be a company. Matt Ryan was pretty bad.

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Speaker 1: It would be a competition for that one. Zack Wilson's

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Speaker 1: team's good, but I think even Jets fans would have

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Speaker 1: to agree. He's probably not a bottom five quarterback. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Zack Wilson is a weird one. How

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Speaker 1: about Jaden Daniels. I live in Tempe and always seen

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Speaker 1: the dog in him, just being held back by the

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Speaker 1: below average pack twelve. I think it's about time the

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Speaker 1: world to see I remember him at a s U

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Speaker 1: I guess I never really thought much about like his toughness,

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Speaker 1: which has clearly been pretty strong, right, his his toughness,

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Speaker 1: his competitiveness. I didn't think he was a good enough passer,

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Speaker 1: and I think it speaks to Brian Kelly and how

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Speaker 1: good of a job they've done. He's playing with really

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Speaker 1: good players, He's playing really well. He was really good

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Speaker 1: the other night. He was really good. Now he wasn't

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback on the field. He's playing against the

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Speaker 1: guy that's probably gonna be the number one pick in

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Speaker 1: the draft. And Bryce's Bryce is one of the more

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Speaker 1: fun players in a long time, Like Bryce is like

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Speaker 1: Johnny manzelf Fund, Bryce's Bryce's box office. And Jaden did

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Speaker 1: what he had to do to put his team in

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Speaker 1: position to beat him. So yeah, he's Remember that first

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Speaker 1: game of the season, who they play Florida State? I

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Speaker 1: thought they were headed for a just a terrible season.

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Speaker 1: Last week, he briefly talked about how the NFL distributes

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Speaker 1: revenue from its TV deals to teams to pay players.

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Speaker 1: This is super interesting to me. Can you explain it further?

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Speaker 1: How do incentives and bonuses work in a strict salary cap? Well, so,

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Speaker 1: whatever the DV deal on a yearly basis is right.

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Speaker 1: So three let's say it's like three billion dollars. It

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Speaker 1: might be off. Whatever the number is thirty two times

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Speaker 1: three million. It's my calculator is not big enough. But

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Speaker 1: whatever the number on the annual basis for the media deals,

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Speaker 1: which means what the TV pays you accounts. I think

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Speaker 1: last year it was like three hundred million dollars. Again

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Speaker 1: I have to Google get the exact numbers, but let's

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Speaker 1: just pick that number. Three million dollars. So every team

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Speaker 1: got that from over the year. Now I don't think

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Speaker 1: you get it in one check. It comes over the fall.

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Speaker 1: We'll think about what your payroll is for your team.

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Speaker 1: It can't exceed it's a hard cap. So the cap

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna pick an even number last year was

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Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars. You get over a hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollars extra guaranteed. Like most of our business is right,

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Speaker 1: I'm not This podcast a good example if we don't

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Speaker 1: sell advertising. If I could have a million people listen

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Speaker 1: to an episode, but if there is no advertising on

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Speaker 1: the episode, there is no revenue. So the only way

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Speaker 1: I'm guaranteed revenue for this podcast is to get advertisers,

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Speaker 1: have us pay them for our audience. That's the way

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Speaker 1: this business works. It's way any podcast works, So any

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Speaker 1: television show works. The way the NFL works. The reason

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Speaker 1: that the CBS is worth it for them to pay

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Speaker 1: two billion dollars a year to get the NFL because

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Speaker 1: they can sell advertising and make more than two billion

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Speaker 1: dollars a year. Right, so they get more than their players.

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Speaker 1: So you could be a team with no revenue, makes

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Speaker 1: zero dollars, and you get guaranteed three hundred million dollars. Now,

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Speaker 1: you obviously have other expenses. We'll think how much your

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Speaker 1: coaching staff costs. Let's say your head coach makes ten,

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Speaker 1: the rest of the staff makes five, the training staff

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Speaker 1: makes another, you know, scouting staff makes another couple of million.

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Speaker 1: You're still under two million dollars. You got eighty to

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Speaker 1: play with. I think of all your employees. Don't cost

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Speaker 1: you know, another couple of million dollars some of your

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Speaker 1: other expenses. So even if you made nothing else, the

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Speaker 1: media money you would you would be in. You'd be

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Speaker 1: making money. Now the bonuses, like when I give you

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Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl bonus or a touchdown bonus, I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: sure and again I didn't work in the CAP. I

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Speaker 1: just know a couple of people that did. They've always

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Speaker 1: told me that follows over to the following year. So

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Speaker 1: it's just that's the way it works, is that if

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Speaker 1: if I owe you, you know, my players, that combine

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Speaker 1: ten million dollars in bonus money that rolls over to

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Speaker 1: the CAP that that next year. But I can't go

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Speaker 1: too and like I don't there are probably different kickers

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Speaker 1: ways for that to work. But but I do know that,

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Speaker 1: uh that the media money pays for the players. Now,

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Speaker 1: you could be making other money and used to pay

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Speaker 1: for the players, but I would imagine that's where the

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Speaker 1: most teams get their money to pay the players. Middlecofp

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Speaker 1: mail back at John Middlecoff Instagram firing those d M

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Speaker 1: audio volume