1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: Watching the game last night and watching what the Lions 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: did to the Ravens made me wonder where did the 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: Ravens defense go? Because it used to be the Ravens 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: had a great defense. They always had a great defense 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 2: and opportunistic defense. They forced turnovers, they got sacks, and 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: they led with their defense. Now they're an offensive minded team, 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: which is fine unless the offense you're facing is better 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: than your offense. And the Lions offense last night was that. 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: When you have two drives over ninety five yards, you're 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: sending a real loud message to the other team. You 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: can't stop us. You could only hope to contain us. 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: David Montgomery and Jamier Gibbs each scored two rushing touchdowns. 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: They rushed for two hundred and twenty four yard That's 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: the most of Ravens defense is allowed since twenty seven. 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: Team the Lions the first team to have two touchdown 18 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: drives of ninety five or more yards in the same 19 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: game since twenty twenty one. That's one of those that's 20 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: old school, that's not flashy, that's not tricky, that's just, hey, 21 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: we're gonna run. We're gonna run over there. Montgomery's gonna 22 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: run over there. Jamior Gibbs is gonna run there. That's 23 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 2: when you take a team's hardaway and then you couple 24 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: that with seven sacks and then you have the punch 25 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: out of Derrick Henry and the Lions with a huge win, 26 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: and then the Ravens have to go to Kansas City 27 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: next weekend. One of those teams is gonna be one 28 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: and three. But the Lions everything, you know, as far 29 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: as all they're coordinators, they're not the same team. And 30 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: you know they got they got blown out when they 31 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: played the Packers. Absolutely, but what we've seen is Dan 32 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: Campbell gives the presence of this gruff guy, but he 33 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: calls a good game because I put this on Dan 34 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: Campbell with his ability to handle the offense, and you 35 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: saw that last night. Now they're still going to go 36 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 2: forward on fourth down. They'll have a couple of trick 37 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: plays in there. But this was just and Aiden Hutchinson 38 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: is back in case you didn't know, but you know 39 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: you had the big play and that was Derrick Henry's 40 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: fumble and it sounded like this Jackson hands it to 41 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: handle back. 42 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: Oh mine buddles out. Yeah, by the Lions, they've got 43 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: it inside the twenty yard line. 44 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: DJ Reid with a football in his hands. 45 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 3: The Lions stripped it away from Derrick Henry. 46 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: What a big turn of events. And the Lions have 47 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: got it now. 48 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: And it's the punch out that that's, you know, And 49 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: it started with Peanut Tillman with the Bears. I think 50 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: he's the godfather of the punch out. But here's three 51 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: fumbles with Derek Henring and two of those fumbles have 52 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: cost them, dearly cost them the game. Here's Derrick Henry 53 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: on his fumbling issues. 54 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: Crazier right now. My three games straight in my career, 55 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 4: string fumbles in critical moments. Yeah, I apologize, sought nation 56 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 4: and you know, I. 57 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 5: Just don't you work in and it was short. 58 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just don't expect that. And I always go 59 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: back to Tiki Barber when he had his fumbling issues 60 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: with the Giants and nearly cost him his job. And 61 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: then he learned how to hold the ball differently and 62 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: he was he ran almost like Forrest Gump with his 63 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: arms up really high, but he wasn't fumbling anymore and 64 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: has had a borderline Hall of Fame career because of that. 65 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: But with Derek Henring and the punch outs, and this 66 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: is if you can't tackle him, then go for the ball. 67 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: I certainly understand that I wouldn't want to tackle him, 68 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: but if you can go for that punch out. And 69 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: plus these defensive players are allowed to hit the opposition 70 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: like you can punch somebody in the arm. I mean, 71 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: there's nothing, there's no rules against that. And if you 72 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: go back to I don't know if it was hard knocks, 73 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: and Seaton probably can give you a better information on it. 74 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 2: I didn't see it, but Seaton told me about it. 75 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,559 Speaker 2: When Aaron Rodgers was mad at Max Crosby because Max 76 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: Crosby on every play was hitting Aaron Rodgers in his 77 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: passing arm. Yeah, I think it was Aaron Rodgers. 78 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 5: It was definitely Max Crosby though, and whoever the quarterback was. 79 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 5: If it wasn't Aaron Rodgers, I apologize, But he every 80 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 5: time Max Crosby even got near him, he punched him 81 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 5: in his throwing arm, right in the shoulder. 82 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 6: He'd punch him, and the. 83 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 5: Quarterback he's like, dude, stop man, you know what you're doing. 84 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 5: He's like, Max Crosby's like what what do what do 85 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 5: you mean? 86 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 6: What do you mean? 87 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 5: Every time he went by him, bang just smashed him 88 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 5: right in the throwing shoulder, right in the arm. 89 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: You're allowed to do that if you're a defensive player. 90 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: I can wind up and say I'm going for the ball. 91 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: I can try to punch you, and worst case scenario, 92 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to hit you in the arm. Yeah, PAULI. 93 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: All three of Derrick Henry's fumbles this season are off 94 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: punch outs. And I went back and looked. He never 95 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: has had more than five in a single season. So 96 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: maybe it's not Derrick Henry, it's the new play for 97 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: the defenders. I asked our stats people to look at this. 98 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 3: From twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three, there was an 99 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 3: average about one hundred and twenty fumbles per year by 100 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: NFL running backs. Last year jumped to one forty. This 101 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 3: year it's on pace for one sixty. So in the 102 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: past two years, fumbles for running backs are up quite 103 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: a bit. 104 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: All right, Well, come up with the pole question. Got 105 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: our play of the day coming up as well, and 106 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: phone numbers eight seven seven three DP show Seeton. What 107 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: are we going to go with? First hour of the program. 108 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 5: Let's see, Well, we have a random one here that 109 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 5: maybe I'll save for a second. But who's in better 110 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 5: shape right now? The Ravens are the Chiefs. 111 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: It feels like we've seen the best that the Ravens 112 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: are going to be. From the standpoint of offense. You know, 113 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 2: you lose to Buffalo, no shame in that you lose 114 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: to the Lions. The way you lost to the Lions 115 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: would be really disconcerting because I don't Ray Lewis didn't 116 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: walking through the door. Terrell Suggs didn't walking through the door. 117 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: Ed Reid is not walking through the door. You got 118 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: to score a lot of points now you do have 119 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: the potential to do that because Lamar did have a 120 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 2: good passing night. It's almost as if, and Troy Aikman 121 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: said this on the broadcast. He's like, hey, I wouldn't 122 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: rush Lamar Jackson. I would have as many defensive backs 123 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: as possible because I don't want him to run. I 124 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: can have him stay in the pocket. We can eventually 125 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: get to him. And that's what they did last night. 126 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: They had seven sacks on him. It seems I don't 127 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: think he's ever been sacked that many times, even close 128 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 2: to that because you would think he be able to 129 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 2: get away, but they kept him in the pocket. And 130 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: then you have the secondaries, like you know, we're going 131 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: to bottle up their receivers. And it worked and I 132 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: did have a good passer rating and threw for three touchdowns. 133 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: But what the Lions did was an interesting philosophy. But 134 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: it still goes back to the Ravens defense. The Chiefs 135 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: have a good defense. Now they don't have the offense 136 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: that the Ravens have, but I do think once they 137 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: get a couple of their wide receivers back, then we're 138 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: going to see if Kansas City is real and maybe 139 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: Kansas City still has Tyreek Hill in play, because I 140 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: don't think the Dolphins are going anywhere. Yes, dud, I 141 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: think the Ravens. 142 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 7: Are in better shape, only from a division standpoint. With 143 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 7: Joe Burrow out, the Browns aren't anything, even if they 144 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 7: snuck past the Packers. But Denver and the Raiders and 145 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 7: Chiefs grant that they're all one and two. But just 146 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 7: looking at the AFC North and AFC West, I'd be 147 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 7: more comfortable as a Raven fan in the long run 148 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 7: this year. 149 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point if you buy into is 150 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: Denver going to be like they were last year. The Chargers, 151 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: they got injuries, Naji Harris out for the season, So yeah, 152 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: I certainly understand putting divisional play in there. Nick Bosa's 153 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: done for the year. Another injury for the forty nine ers. Wow, 154 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: an ACL tear and Naji Harris is ACL with the Chargers? 155 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 5: What other Achilles? What else do we have seton Tier 156 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 5: one of the NFC? Paul just sent this over Tier 157 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 5: one of the NFC. Is that the Eagles alone or 158 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 5: the Eagles and the Lions. 159 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: Well, I would put the Packers in there too. I mean, 160 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: the Packers blew out the Lions so and granted they 161 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 2: I know they lost to Cleveland, but if we're going 162 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: recency biased, then I understand that. But Green Bay did 163 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: beat Detroit head up. Would I would put three teams 164 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: in there? I mean, I still think the Rams are 165 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: in that top five in the NFC, but I would say, 166 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: and I think the Eagles will look great. I mean 167 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: they needed heroic performance by Jalen Hurtz and a block 168 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: field goal. I would say Lions, Packers, Rams, Eagles. That'd 169 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: be my top my top four. What else. 170 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 6: Do you read books? 171 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: I try? Yes, often yes, you're there, or no. 172 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 173 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 2: Mike Florio came in yesterday and he's got a new 174 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: book and he wanted to know because I have all 175 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: these books in here. I have a huge wall of books. 176 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: And he goes, do you do you read books? And 177 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 2: I go no, I mean I tried to. I just 178 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: don't have the attention span I try. I look like 179 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: I read a lot of books, but I read a 180 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: lot of articles. 181 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 7: I can. 182 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: I can last through an article unless it's a really 183 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: long article, and then it takes me a couple of 184 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 2: days tog through that really long I just I lose interest. 185 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: The same thing with TV shows. You know there's a 186 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: series on, and you know, my wife will say, man, 187 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: you really like Severance. And then I watched I think 188 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: twelve minutes and I was done, and she goes, how 189 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: do you only give it twelve minutes? I go, hun, 190 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: you got to capture capture my attention or I'm gone, yeah, Pauline, Well. 191 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: What kind of articles those deep dive Vanity Fair articles 192 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 3: or like those US Weekly six paragraph articles. 193 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: I probably could you know, get through a Vanity Fair 194 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 2: article or GQ or Esquire, but you know US Weekly. 195 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: You know if I'm at the physical therapist. I'm gonna 196 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: look at that when they say, mister Patrick, are ready 197 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: for you. Hold On, I'm reading something here. Timothy Shallome 198 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: has got a new haircut. Hold On, I'll be there, yes, Ton. 199 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 7: Is it completely attention span or did you ever get 200 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 7: intented by the size of a book? Like I can 201 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 7: deal with like an one hundred and fifty page book, 202 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 7: but could you sit down with the four or five 203 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 7: hundred page thing a novel. I'm like, I'm never going 204 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 7: to get through this. This will take a year. 205 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: I can't do it. And then my wife is in 206 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: a book club, so she's reading a book a week 207 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: and then I'm like, okay, I said, and then she'll say, hey, 208 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: you know, you should read this book, and then she'll 209 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: give it to me, and then she realizes that I 210 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 2: didn't read the book, and I'd just say, I'm you know, 211 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: I'll read the cover and what you know people are 212 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: saying about it. But it's it's just even when we 213 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: have guests on and they have a book out, I'll 214 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: read reviews on it, but and sometimes I'll go through 215 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: and get excerpts. Uh, you know. Seth Wickersham wrote an 216 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: article about the quarterback, and I actually read a lot, 217 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: you know, I just skipped chapters and I was just 218 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: looking for whatever I found interesting. But yeah, it's a 219 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 2: shame because I am not a good reader, never have been, 220 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 2: guess Pauline. 221 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 3: Follow up a question on do you read books? Is 222 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 3: listening to a book on tape reading a book? I'm 223 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 3: going to give you credit for it, credit or full credit. 224 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: I'll give you a full credit. Yeah, I'll give you 225 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: full credit. I mean, somebody's reading the book to you. 226 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: But that's okay, I'm fine with that. Yes, ton to me, that's. 227 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 7: Like an audio movie or something. I don't know if 228 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 7: that's reading a book. I think, you know, flipping the 229 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 7: pages or even if you're using technology and you're moving 230 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 7: it with your finger across the board whatever. I just 231 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 7: that sounds like I don't know, I'm gonna say cheating. 232 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 7: That's not the book experience in my opinions, being read 233 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 7: to you. 234 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: Well, it's either that or cliff notes version. And I 235 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: was king of the cliff Notes version. By the way, 236 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 2: it's Cliff's Notes. Yeah, note, Yeah, it's cliffs. I don't know. 237 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know Cliff, but Cliff's Notes. I 238 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: remember I would I'd read those if you said I 239 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: could do cliff notes or I could have somebody read 240 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: me a book. I'd rather somebody read me a book 241 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 2: instead of me just cheating off somebody's paper. 242 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 5: Yes, that's kind of like. They're actually called Brussels sprouts. Yeah, 243 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 5: it's not Brussels sprouts. They're Brussels sprouts from Brussels. 244 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you haven't used monarch notes. 245 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 7: That was another thing. Clip notes were yellow, but there 246 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 7: was also a red book called monarch Notes. They both 247 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 7: kind of did the same thing, and they were like 248 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 7: in competition with each other for some reason, monarch Notes 249 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 7: and clip notes so you don't have to read the 250 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 7: book when you get the assignment. 251 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: Todd, I wasn't a good student. 252 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 5: I didn't care enough to actually do the cliffs notes 253 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 5: about it. I just like, I'll just wing it. Yeah, 254 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 5: I wasn't a good student. 255 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 6: I waste my money on these. 256 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: I'm a shamed to admit bad student. Whenever I would 257 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: tell my kids about grades and you know, studying, and 258 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: they go, well you didn't, I said, yeah, I know, 259 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: but and you're successful, Yeah I know, but still and 260 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: then I'm like, yeah, you know, talk to your mom. 261 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 5: Yes, that's the worst part of like you're talking to 262 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 5: your kid about like, hey man, you really got to 263 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 5: study and do it, like trust me, all right? You 264 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 5: really want Why why do I have to trust you? Well, 265 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 5: because you want your life to work out? You're great, 266 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 5: you want to do like what You're not happy with 267 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 5: the way your life worked out? 268 00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 269 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 5: No, I am just saying, so what you think it 270 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 5: could be better? Dude, don't do this to me, all right. 271 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 5: I'm just telling you got to study, all right. Don't 272 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 5: twist my words. Damn kids, Yes, Paul. 273 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 3: Lastly, just on this theme, it's cliffs notes, Brussels sprouts. 274 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 3: Is it Ruth's Chris Steakhouse? 275 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: Ruth Ruth Chris? 276 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: Is there an apostrophe? Yeah, that's that's hard to say. 277 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: I know what's the genesis of that? 278 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: I think it's Chris is maybe her son, I don't know. 279 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: Ruth took it over from Chris. You know what, Let 280 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: me take a break here. I mean we're getting into 281 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: a real you know, heavy top. 282 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 6: Just lose the ego? 283 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: Do you have to put Ruth on it? Just it's 284 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: Chris's steakhouse, so. 285 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 6: You're the owner. 286 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: But why do you have to get Ruth in there. 287 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: I could be just making that up. I might be 288 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: making that. 289 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 5: Like, man, this steakhouse is so Chris, you know it's 290 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 5: it's Ruth. 291 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: Is that right? Ruth's Steakhouse is like, it's not it's 292 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: Ruth Chris. 293 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 294 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 295 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 296 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 8: Hey, we're Covino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day 297 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 8: five to seven pm Eastern. 298 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. 299 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 8: We never have enough time to get to everything we 300 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 8: want to get. 301 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 9: To, and that's why we have a brand new podcast 302 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 9: called over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun 303 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 9: in our two hour show. We never get to everything, honestly, 304 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 9: because this guy is over promising things we never have 305 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 9: time for. 306 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you blubber, list lame and me. 307 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 8: Well, you know what it's called over promise. You should 308 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 8: be good at it because you've been over promising women 309 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 8: for years. 310 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 9: Well, it's a Cavino and Rich after show, and we 311 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 9: want you to be a part of it. We're gonna 312 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 9: be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk 313 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 9: life and relationships and if Rich and I are arguing 314 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 9: about something or we didn't have enough time. It will 315 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 9: continue on our after show called over Promised. 316 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 8: Well, if you don't get enough Covino and Rich, make 317 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 8: sure you check out over Promised and also Uncensored by 318 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 8: the way, so maybe we'll go at it even. 319 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: A little harder. 320 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 8: It's gonna be the best after show podcast of all time. 321 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 9: There you go, over Promising. Remember you could see it 322 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 9: on YouTube, but definitely join us. Listen Over Promised with 323 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 9: Cadino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or 324 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 9: wherever you get your podcasts. 325 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: Undefeated Chargers. They've beaten the Chiefs, the Raiders, Broncos, they 326 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: got the Giants coming up, and then after that they've 327 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: got Washington's Jim Harbaugh back on the show. Who has 328 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: it better than we do? Nobody? I coach Rody Dan, 329 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: I'm doing great. I'm doing great. How about you? 330 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 10: Yeah? Doing really really good, really really happy. I'm happy 331 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 10: about our team, our organization. There's a there's a never 332 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 10: give up, never give in personality, and that that bodes 333 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 10: well for uh. That's the kind of hearts champions are 334 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 10: made up. Makes me happy. 335 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: How long will you wait to call your brother? After 336 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: that game last night. 337 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 10: We've already texted, so I'm sure we'll talk sometime today. 338 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: What do you add? Does he ask you or do 339 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: you volunteer? 340 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 10: Oh? I think, Uh, I don't know. I don't know 341 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 10: how this one will go up. I mean, uh, he 342 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 10: saw a lot more than I did, and it was 343 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 10: a heck of a football game. I'm sure he knows, 344 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 10: he knows what his team needs this. 345 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: Uh, punching the ball out? Do you teach that to 346 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 2: your players? 347 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 10: Yeah? Punch it out, rip it out? I mean, lawn more. Uh, 348 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 10: that that ball. Everybody's going for that ball. 349 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 2: But when it seems like Peanut Tillman might have been 350 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 2: the first who was punching the ball out, but you know, 351 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 2: we're not. There's certain guys that are hard to tackle. 352 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: But is that the philosophy Derrick Henry is tough to 353 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: bring down to? Why not go for the most vulnerable 354 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: part of him and that's the ball? 355 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 10: Yeah? I think you're bring up a great point. I mean, 356 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 10: if if something, if mister Tailman can do it, another 357 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 10: man can do it. Once, you know, once somebody sees 358 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 10: somebody do something that hasn't been done. Uh, then uh, 359 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 10: you know, see if I can do it that way. 360 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 10: You know. That's the uh that that's the mentality there. 361 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 10: It's it's it's across sports. 362 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: But you're teaching that to your guys. 363 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 10: Sure. Yeah, And and you teach every week. You show 364 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,239 Speaker 10: the you show the ways that that the ball is 365 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 10: coming out and getting loose, you know, in the in 366 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 10: the running game from non aggressive angles. Uh, you know, 367 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 10: the quarterbacks the most at risk and the ball carrier. 368 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 10: You know the different ways that the that the ball 369 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 10: comes out. You show it every single week, you know, 370 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 10: for the for the sake of the ball carrier and uh, 371 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 10: for the sake of those trying to get it out. 372 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 10: And you know in the in the in the passing game, 373 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 10: in the interception turnovers, uh, tips and overs. Throws are 374 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 10: still the leading cause of turnovers in America. 375 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Chiefs, Raiders and Broncos. You've beaten them. Which 376 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: out of those three was your best game so far? 377 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 10: Oh that's uh, it's it's it's like your kids. You yeah, 378 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 10: I mean the wins. You love them all. Uh, you 379 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 10: love them all the same. 380 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 2: Weather has to be one where you know you say that. 381 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 10: You know you say that as a parent. There's gotta 382 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 10: there's gotta be a favorite. 383 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 2: There's gotta be one that I have favorite kids, Jim. 384 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 10: The division wins definitely, Uh, the division wins, you know 385 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 10: the ones that that that it seems are better. You 386 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 10: know that you're you're you're right. There's there's some that 387 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 10: are better and those are the division wins. 388 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 2: Are you preparing for Jackson Dart to play this weekend 389 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: with the Giants? 390 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 10: Uh, we'll prepare for for the Giants. Uh. And in 391 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 10: both you know, both both quarterbacks. 392 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: How do you prepare? You prepare differently for Russell Wilson 393 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: and Jackson Dart. 394 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 10: Uh, I mean somewhat. I mean some of the Uh, 395 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 10: I mean just off the you know, just off off 396 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 10: of what we've seen. I mean, Uh, Jackson Dart, the 397 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 10: quarterback driven kind of game as uh, you know, would 398 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 10: be more in play. 399 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: Talking to Jim Harball, they got the Giants coming up 400 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 2: on Sunday. The Herbert throw across his body. As a 401 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 2: former quarterback, how would you describe that throw? And was 402 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 2: was that scripted to throw it that way? 403 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 10: No? That was that was a that was an extended 404 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 10: play justin it was extending the play out of the pocket. 405 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 10: I do have the I do have the adjective to 406 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 10: describe it, Uh, impossible. It was an impossible throw and 407 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 10: it was an impossible catch by Keenan Allen both both 408 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 10: Justin to his left, a quarterback to his left. 409 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 3: Uh. 410 00:20:55,359 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 10: You know, as he's throwing it, he you know, runs 411 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 10: into the arm of the defender. So he's really got 412 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 10: about that much extension. And then and then it was 413 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 10: just then it's just risk. You know, it's that much 414 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 10: momentum plus risk. And you know the throws the ball, 415 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 10: what was it twenty five thirty yards as the crow 416 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 10: flies there and maybe thirty five with a defender covering Keenan, Uh, 417 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 10: you know, perfectly placed. And you know John Justin's Justin's throws, 418 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 10: you know, they never die at the at the receiver. 419 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 10: It's uh, it's got that it gets. When I catch 420 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 10: his ball pregame, it's like none I've ever caught before, 421 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 10: because when it's halfway to me, I know, I better 422 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 10: get my hands up and especially protect my face because 423 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 10: it just at the end it I think baseball pitchers 424 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 10: call it hot right when it's uh, when it's speeds 425 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 10: up at the end. And you know there's quarterbacks that 426 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 10: that when they throw I mean it'll hop and as 427 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 10: it's and go up, but his will hop and go 428 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 10: go straight on the line that it's going. It's it's Uh, 429 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 10: it's different than than anything I've ever seen. Pussy. Pussy 430 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 10: gets hit in the head. Uh as he's throwing it. Uh, 431 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 10: it was all of that impossible. 432 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 2: Was it a good throw though? If it like were 433 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 2: you on the sidelines going no, no, yes, yes. 434 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 10: Uh no, I've really learned not to not to do 435 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 10: that anymore. There was, there was, there's times, there's time 436 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 10: in practice. There there's been times in games where I said, 437 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 10: no that he's you know, the guy's covered, but he's 438 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 10: got the ability. And we tell our receivers everybody running, 439 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 10: everybody alert, even if you think you're covered. You know 440 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 10: our quarterback can put the ball to a spot. You know, 441 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 10: he can hit the bullseye. It's to me, I think 442 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 10: of it as a handoff. You know, it's a thirty 443 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 10: five yard handoff or it's a forty five yard handoff. 444 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 10: I've seen it. You have fifty five yard handoff, and 445 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 10: that's what a forty yard handoff looks like. You know, 446 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 10: with the way he can he can put the ball 447 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 10: right on, right on the Bullseye. 448 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 2: We had him on preseason and I asked him if 449 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: he would incorporate more running, kind of like Josh Allen, 450 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 2: because when I saw him in college, certainly in the 451 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: Rose Bowl, he looked really impressive running. And Steve Young 452 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: comes on the show and he says, there's so much 453 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 2: you know, real estate out there. If you got to 454 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 2: take advantage of that, you got to use your legs 455 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: and go get that. Is that being incorporated into the 456 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: game plan more this year than it has been before? 457 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 10: Well, it has, It definitely has. Justin's making making so 458 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 10: many plays that way. He's he's always really been that 459 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 10: kind of quarterback. You know, there's there's nothing he's not 460 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 10: good at it. There's an old saying. I don't know 461 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 10: when I heard it, but uh, you know that God 462 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 10: doesn't give anybody a monopoly. Uh maybe except Justin Herbert. 463 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 10: Uh and in all seriousness, Uh. And he has people 464 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 10: ask me, you know, was he improved on this year? 465 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 10: You know, he's he's he's just always been great since 466 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 10: I've been here day one. You know, it's it's like 467 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 10: watching greatness every single day. What has he improved on? 468 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 10: He did get a mile an hour faster this this 469 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 10: off season. We previously had talked him on the GPS 470 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 10: at twenty point seven miles per hour, and then in 471 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 10: training camp he he took off ran and we got 472 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 10: him at twenty one point six miles an hour, so 473 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 10: almost a full second uh faster. And he works on 474 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 10: it every day. His training is is elite. He's he's conditioning, 475 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 10: he's he's it's speed training, and he has he has 476 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 10: gotten faster and uh and it's and it's showing up 477 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 10: in the games. 478 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: When did you realize there was unfinished business in the NFL? 479 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 11: Uh? 480 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 10: When when I walked off the field at the at 481 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 10: the Super Bowl in twenty and thirteen, you know, I 482 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 10: was really proud of our team and what they did 483 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 10: to get there and uh and how they played in 484 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 10: the game, and felt like, you know, there'll be another day, 485 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 10: almost almost like, uh, who is the actor? Who's the 486 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 10: actor in Field of Dreams? 487 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 8: Uh? 488 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 10: Burt Lancaster, Uh, when he said he got his one 489 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 10: at bat in the major leagues and he walked off 490 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 10: the field and thought there would be other days. But 491 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 10: then there weren't any other days. So yeah, I thought 492 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 10: there would be other days. And then for a long 493 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 10: time that there wasn't any other days. And now with 494 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 10: the Chargers, with the team that that h has the 495 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 10: license and the ability to do it. I I'm I'm 496 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 10: feeling that there's going to be another day. 497 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 2: How's your dad? 498 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 10: He's good. Thanks for asking. He's he was. He was 499 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 10: in Baltimore the last the last two weeks, and UH 500 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 10: so been UH been talking with him, texting Texan this morning. 501 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 10: I haven't talked yet, but uh looking looking forward to that. 502 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 10: We we uh he my mom, we we talked about 503 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 10: every other day. So uh get I need to talk 504 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 10: to my dad today, see what Uh see how he's doing, 505 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 10: get his football perspective of of the game last night 506 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 10: and our game and uh and my son Jay's game. 507 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 10: Uh Jay Harball. How about the talk about the trifecta. 508 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 10: He's the special teams coach coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks. 509 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 10: And they had a ninety five yard kickoff return for 510 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 10: a touchdown I think the longest maybe in Seahawks history 511 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 10: and maybe in the first in the last ten years. 512 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 10: They had they had oh that was a pump return 513 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 10: punt return ninety five and then a kickoff return for 514 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 10: sixty five and and they blocked a field goal. I mean, 515 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 10: that's that's the trifecta right there. 516 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 2: Man, Well, didn't John proud of him? John started out 517 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 2: with special teams, didn't he dead? Yeah? 518 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 10: Sure did. Uh. And it's uh, it's it's it's it's 519 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 10: the coach that uh probably I mean coaches everybody. Uh. 520 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 10: And Jason Jay's a great coach. We were together at 521 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 10: Michigan for seven years and Uh, I feel like, you know, 522 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 10: like in a proud way, in the in the in 523 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 10: the in the best kind of way that uh, you know, 524 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 10: I'm here and he's kind of like he's going, he's 525 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 10: going above me. He's good, he's better, and I mean, 526 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 10: uh getting better and is better and just ascending in 527 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 10: every way as a as a coach and a dad. 528 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 5: You know. 529 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 10: Just one of my favorite coaches that I've ever ever 530 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 10: worked with or been around. And that's what we want 531 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 10: with her kids, right, We want him to be We 532 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:22,719 Speaker 10: want them to be better than us. 533 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: Look at that smile on your face. Look at you 534 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: round dad. Do you think your dad could take me? 535 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 10: Take you? 536 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, in a fight? Yeah, I don't know. 537 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 10: That's always the same. May That's a that's never really 538 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 10: resonated with me, Like who could who could? Why would 539 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 10: you want to fight? Let's let's be friends. 540 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: We'll make an enemy. 541 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 10: You can make a friend. 542 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: Maybe arm wrestled. 543 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 10: I mean, I don't know. 544 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 6: Don't you know what he. 545 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: Came hey, when he came in that name? 546 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 10: You're a really good shape. He's a really good shape. 547 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 10: I don't know that'd be uh yeah. 548 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: But he's eighty six. He's eighty six. 549 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 10: It's a pretty good shap. 550 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's what I'm saying. He could probably 551 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: take me. So, but you're right, we'll just be. 552 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 10: Sure if I wanted to, I a wluld want to 553 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 10: tangle with him? 554 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 8: Right? 555 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: Did you ever? 556 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 10: Right? He's one of the and my great grandfather Harball 557 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 10: was an amateur boxer, a little thunder, and then my grandfather, 558 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 10: Bill Harball was a boxer. He had eight eight fights, 559 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 10: eight or nine fights. And my dad was never a boxer. 560 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 10: But my dad can handle himself that way, and I've 561 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 10: seen it. I've seen Maybe that's the story for another show. 562 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 10: I've witnessed right to take care of himself. 563 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that. I don't deny that. Congrats on 564 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: the start. Great to catch up with you, Thanks for 565 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: joining us. Thanks Dad, Thank you that's coach coach Harball. 566 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 567 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports 568 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: Radio Com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 569 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: listen live. 570 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: Let's bring in Ryan Fitzpatrick NFL on Prime Video Thursday Night. 571 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: Thursday Night, it's the Seahawks and the Cardinals. Do you 572 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: agree with that Jared Golf a Super Bowl win makes 573 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: them a Hall of Fame quarterback? Wow? 574 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 11: We're starting with the tough questions early. I think so 575 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 11: because it's Detroit as well. You know, I think there's 576 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 11: a lot of fan bases that would go crazy for that. 577 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 11: But Buffalo and Detroit, if there's a quarterback could bring 578 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 11: a Super Bowl to either of those, I think they'll 579 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 11: end up in the Hall of Fame. So's it's been 580 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 11: amazing what Jared has been able to do in Detroit 581 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 11: and now switching offensive coordinators. You know, we talked about 582 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 11: the genius of Ben Johnson and after the first game 583 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 11: against the Packers, will they be the same ever? 584 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 6: Again? I think we got that answer. I think They're 585 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 6: going to be just fine. 586 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: What do you take away from last night's game? 587 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 11: I come out of that I think the Ravens are 588 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 11: going to be fine. But I out of that game 589 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 11: so impressed with Detroit and what Dan Campbell has done there, 590 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 11: the mentality that those guys play with. Really happy for 591 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 11: Kelvin Sheppard to step in at defensive coordinator, the emotion 592 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 11: and the passion that he shows on the sideline. 593 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 6: But I think Detroit right now. 594 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 11: A lot of people obviously are going to say the Eagles, 595 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 11: and he got to knock off the Eagles, But I 596 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 11: think the Detroits for me are my favorite team in 597 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 11: the NFC. 598 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: The Ravens defense, they used to lead with their defense Rye. 599 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: That defense was non existent last night. That doesn't concern you, 600 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: It does. 601 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 6: A little bit. 602 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 11: I mean, if you look to the week before, they 603 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 11: made some big plays, you know, fumble return for a touchdown, 604 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 11: the interception returned down to the five by Wiggins. They 605 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 11: were missing Manabik. Last night they were missing van Ney. 606 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 11: I think we've seen this from the Ravens before, though. 607 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 11: I think we've seen the struggles at the beginning of 608 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 11: the year. I think they're too talented on defense at 609 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 11: all three levels. Are too talented to not figure this 610 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 11: thing out by year's end. 611 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: More concerned about the Chiefs of the Ravens since they 612 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 2: meet each other next week. 613 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm more concerned with the Chiefs, and I've been 614 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 11: concerned with the Chiefs for the last few years, and 615 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,239 Speaker 11: I've been very wrong. I think a lot of us have. 616 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 11: But you know, I think everybody is saying, well, wait, 617 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 11: the Cavalry's coming. Rashie Rice is going to come back. 618 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 11: Worthy's going to be healthy. This offense is going to 619 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 11: get back on track and figure it out. But it 620 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 11: just seems like things are difficult for the Chiefs right 621 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 11: now on offense. And you know, they have a much 622 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 11: better defense statistically than the Ravens do right now. But 623 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 11: I just think the Ravens are a much better football 624 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 11: team and I think that'll show up on Sunday. 625 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 2: What's it like to go against the defense that you 626 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: know is bad? 627 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 6: It's wonderful. 628 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: It is wonder Cowboys defense. You you know, there's no 629 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: pass rusher, secondary, pretty shaky, like man, you probably have 630 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: to hide your giddiness. I think when you go on 631 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: the field, don't you. 632 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 11: I think there's two different things as a quarterback. One 633 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 11: is to go into a game known you're going to 634 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 11: be able to run the ball at will and for 635 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 11: it to actually happen. That's when that's when it's great. 636 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 11: When you can have a relaxing game, when you can 637 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 11: get those five and ten yard plays and then a 638 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 11: chunk run here every now and again, and it opens 639 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 11: up the play action. You know, they're having to load 640 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 11: the box to try to do anything to stop the 641 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 11: run game, and you've got one on once on the 642 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 11: outside with big advantages. 643 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 6: That's huge. 644 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 11: But you know, in our Thursday night game, you saw 645 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 11: Miami and the Bills and there was they were running 646 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 11: it at will and then something happened at halftime and there. 647 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 6: Was just a lowell. 648 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 11: And so it's the beauty of the NFL where you 649 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 11: just you there's professionals on both sides of the balls. 650 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 11: And I think that the Cleveland Packers game reminded of 651 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 11: it of that this weekend where it's like, we think 652 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 11: we have this whole thing figured out, and the Chiefs 653 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 11: are falling down and the Ravens are no good anymore, 654 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 11: and all of a sudden, you know, the Browns go 655 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 11: ahead and beat the Packers, who were the Super Bowl 656 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,959 Speaker 11: favorites two weeks ago. 657 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 2: How often did you go to the line of scrimmage 658 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: and you go touchdown before the play. 659 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 6: So I'll tell you I was. 660 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 11: I had the privilege of playing with a lot of 661 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 11: great receivers. So if I could walk up and see 662 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 11: a one on one matchup with a go ball and 663 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 11: I had Mike Evans on the outside, or I had 664 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 11: a quarters look and I had Deshaun Jackson on a post. 665 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 11: DeAndre Hopkins was that way too, And then my twenty 666 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 11: fifteen season with Brandon Marshall, I did that quite a 667 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 11: bit and he got in the end zone quite a bit. 668 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 11: So I think a lot of that is based on 669 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 11: matchups and the guys that you have on the outside. 670 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 2: How is quarterbacking changed in the last ten or fifteen years. 671 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 11: It's changed a lot, and I think, you know, part 672 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 11: of it is protecting the quarterbacks. Less big hits easier, 673 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 11: the easier for these guys to stay healthy. 674 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 6: It's still obviously going to hurt when you get hit. 675 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 11: With a great shot of Miles Garrett hitting Joe Burrow 676 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 11: in the in the first week, where it's like, so 677 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 11: you want to play quarterback in. 678 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 6: The NFL, this is what it looks like. 679 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,479 Speaker 11: But these rules have helped quarterbacks stay healthy and stay 680 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 11: on the field. And I think the second thing that's 681 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 11: a big difference. You've seen completion percentage jump way up, 682 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 11: and you know the air yards on these passes. A 683 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 11: lot of these offenses now getting the ball out on 684 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 11: the perimeter, having those plays where it's a swing pass 685 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 11: and there's a full back or a tight end as 686 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 11: the lead blocker out there. 687 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 6: A lot of this is an extension of the run game. 688 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 11: And so I think we're seeing a lot of quick passes, 689 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 11: a lot of short passes, and I don't know that 690 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 11: it's necessarily changing for the better. I like some of 691 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 11: that other stuff, and that's why you like teams like 692 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 11: Detroit and like to watch the play action and Jared 693 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 11: Goff throw it down the field and on fourth and 694 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 11: two the aman Rah play action. You know, trust in 695 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 11: him to make that throw. But it's changed, and I 696 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 11: don't know that it's changed for the better in terms 697 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 11: of all the quick short passes. 698 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 2: I don't know why more quarterbacks don't start under center 699 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: that it feels like you can run play action, like 700 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 2: you can hide a little bit more. It's more deception 701 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 2: there instead of being in the gun. Help me understand 702 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 2: why we don't see more of that. 703 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 11: Yeah, I just think because of the way that it's 704 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 11: being taught from a very young age now and in college, 705 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 11: you know, it's all about you have guys coming into 706 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 11: the league that haven't really had to be in a 707 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 11: huddle and haven't really had to bark out a cadence 708 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 11: or a snap count. But that kind of stuff it's 709 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 11: easier to do. You like the spread out, wide open 710 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 11: stuff in college, and so a lot of that occurs in. 711 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 6: Shotgun, but it's a big difference. 712 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 11: It's a big change for some of these guys coming 713 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 11: into the NFL, and it is a huge advantage to 714 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 11: be able to get under center. 715 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 2: You've got the Seahawks and the Cardinals on Thursday night. 716 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 2: I thought Marvin Harrison Junior was foul and yards one 717 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 2: hundred catches. This is going to be easy. What the 718 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: hell has happened? 719 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 11: I think part of it is a confidence issue. You know, 720 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 11: you saw in the last game he had two big drops. 721 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 11: One of them ended up not cost him because they 722 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 11: had a past interference calling the end zone. But just 723 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 11: you know, stuff plays that he's probably made since he 724 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 11: was five years old, and so that happens to guys 725 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 11: sometimes where you just you fall out of confidence. So 726 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 11: I think it's the job of Jonathan Gannon, especially the 727 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 11: job of Kyler Murray to try to bring him up 728 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 11: out of this and to breathe life and breathe confidence 729 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 11: in him because he is he's a good player. I 730 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 11: think the biggest knock on him so far, and I 731 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 11: live in Arizona, so I've been hearing a lot of 732 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 11: it is, you know, his inability to make that contested 733 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 11: catch and to do it consistently. He obviously dropped a 734 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 11: couple where he was opened this last weekend, but going 735 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 11: up and being strong and using your hands. And I 736 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 11: think that the hard thing is the comparison is Larry Fitzgerald. Right, 737 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 11: he comes in and they want him to be the 738 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 11: franchise guy, like Larry was in the face of the 739 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 11: franchise for seventeen years, and he hasn't lived up to 740 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 11: that billing yet, but. 741 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 6: He has the talent. 742 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 11: So it's still early and I hope he can he 743 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 11: can make himself come out of the scene and gain 744 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 11: some confidence back. 745 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,479 Speaker 2: Would you put Jackson Dart in there for a home 746 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 2: game against a better team, the Chargers, or on the 747 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 2: road against a worse team the Saints. 748 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 6: See I've always had it circled, so we have we 749 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 6: have week six. 750 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 11: I think let's see one, two, three, four. Yeah, our 751 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 11: Week six game is the Giants, which is a Thursday night, 752 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 11: And so being a guy that has started as the 753 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 11: bridge quarterback for Plunketting, you look at the bye week 754 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 11: first of all, and I think their bye week is 755 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 11: week fourteen, so it wasn't gonna happen then. 756 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 6: And then you look at the Thursday night games. 757 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 11: We can get a couple extra days of practice, so 758 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 11: I've always had after our game circled, week seven would 759 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 11: be his first start. You know, It's it's difficult obviously 760 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 11: to play this position, and Russell Wilson there's a lot 761 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 11: of things that he's going to try to cover up 762 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 11: in terms of maybe the line play, the lack of 763 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 11: threats on the outside, the running backs, whatever it is. 764 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 6: It's nice for Jackson dark. 765 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 11: To be able to sit and kind of watch him 766 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 11: operate a little bit and get beat up. Their schedule 767 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 11: is really tough, so he'll be in there soon though, 768 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 11: and I think there's a. 769 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 6: Lot of excitement around him. 770 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 11: We were able to do his preseason game and what 771 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 11: he will bring is a little bit more mobility. 772 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 6: To that position. 773 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 2: Fitch and Wit a wave original. Wherever you get your podcast, 774 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 2: you guys chopping it up, telling stories, giving dad energy there. 775 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 2: How much fun has that been. It's been a lot 776 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 2: of fun. 777 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 11: I put off the podcast for a couple of years 778 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 11: and then what I realized was I finally found the 779 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 11: right person to do it with. 780 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 6: And Andrew Whitworth and. 781 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 11: I were teammates way back in seven eight for the 782 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 11: Cincinnati Bengals, and our friendship has kind of come back 783 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 11: around after we started working for Amazon together. 784 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 6: But we love it. 785 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 11: We just had Dion Dawkins on yesterday and to be 786 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 11: able to sit down and talk with some of these guys, 787 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 11: some of them we have forged friendships with already and 788 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 11: some of them just really getting to know for the 789 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 11: first time. And Big Schnow was one of those guys. 790 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 11: But what a character he is and what a moment 791 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 11: he's having with the Buffalo Bills. And he's kind of 792 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 11: seen it all the last eight years with that franchise, 793 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 11: but he's been with Josh from the beginning. So it 794 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 11: was cool to see and listen to some of those 795 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 11: stories with the good to. 796 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 2: Talk to you have fun on Thursday. Great to catch 797 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 2: up with you again. 798 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 6: Thanks Dan. 799 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 2: It's Ryan Fitzpatrick, It's Fitch in Wit, a Wave original 800 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcast. Andrew Whitworth very funny guy. 801 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 2: They got Seahawks Cardinals on Thursday night.