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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Buck Sexton Show. We have our

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Speaker 1: friend Ned Ryan with us. He is the founder and

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Speaker 1: CEO of American Majority. We're going to talk to Ned

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Speaker 1: about the state of play going into the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four election. How we're doing with the tactics of getting

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Speaker 1: votes in the places we need them when we need

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Speaker 1: them there, how we're doing on the messaging battle, and

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Speaker 1: just always feeling about politics in general.

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Speaker 2: Right now.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot of things to talk to mister

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Speaker 1: Ned about, sir. Always good to see you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Tell me tell me this, what is your biggest concern

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Speaker 1: right now? I'm not asking about a primary candidate anything else.

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Speaker 1: For the GOP heading into the Biden reelection effort right now,

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Speaker 1: trying to oppose him. What's your biggest point of concern?

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Speaker 1: What makes you think, guys, we got to wake up here.

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Speaker 3: I think the first thing, Buck, as soon as I

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Speaker 3: saw the Biden announcement for reelection right now, if you

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Speaker 3: were to ask me who do I put the odds

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Speaker 3: on favorite to win reelection, it's Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 4: As horrifying as that.

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Speaker 3: Thought is that we have grandpa dementia and Harpy Harris

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Speaker 3: as the nominees running for reelection right now in April

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Speaker 3: of twenty twenty three. I'm not I have to tell you,

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Speaker 3: I would give them the nod because I think the

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Speaker 3: Democrats are far better at collecting ballots than Republicans are,

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Speaker 3: and I think we're kind of getting caught up a

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Speaker 3: little spun up about is that Trump is a DeSantis.

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Speaker 3: I have to tell you, and I'm saying this in

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Speaker 3: some ways a little bit to kind of grab people's attention.

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Speaker 3: I don't care who the nominee is. I really don't,

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Speaker 3: because I think we're getting lost in that. First of all,

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Speaker 3: we should focus on the fact that we're going to

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Speaker 3: have an America First candidate as the Republican nominee in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. Rejoice in that fact. But we had

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Speaker 3: better figure out how we become better at our ballot

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Speaker 3: collecting machine. And Buck, I've been hammering on this for

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Speaker 3: a while. In fact, American Majority has made it one

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Speaker 3: of our main focuses for training starting in January of

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Speaker 3: this year, in which we are trying to communicate to

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Speaker 3: the grassroots, to candidates, to anybody that will listen, really

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Speaker 3: explaining what I think took place over the last couple

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Speaker 3: election cycles where Democrats have realized it's not really about votes,

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Speaker 3: it's not persuading people, it's about how do we collect ballots,

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Speaker 3: more ballots than they do than Republicans. And I've explained

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Speaker 3: to the grassroots the good news is we do actually

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Speaker 3: have a model on what we should be doing in

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Speaker 3: every presidential battleground state. And it's called Florida. And let

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Speaker 3: me explain a little bit about what Florida has done

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Speaker 3: very very well, especially over the last five years the

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Speaker 3: Republican Party in Florida to give people hope, but to

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Speaker 3: also highlight what we should be doing. Over the last

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Speaker 3: five years, the Republican Party in Florida went from being

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Speaker 3: down over two hundred and fifty thousand voter registrations to

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Speaker 3: Democrats to now being up four hundred and fifty thousand.

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Speaker 3: That's a seven hundred thousand swing five years. How did

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Speaker 3: that happen? Because they committed about two to three million

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Speaker 3: a year over the last five years and said we're

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Speaker 3: going to go and build out our voter base. Now

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Speaker 3: we're up seven hundred thousand swing, up four hundred and fifty thousand.

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Speaker 4: Buck. I have to tell you.

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Speaker 3: Because of some of that, I don't think Florida's a

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Speaker 3: battleground state next year. But the other aspect of what

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Speaker 3: Florida has done very well for I would say six

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Speaker 3: seven election cycles, they've actually committed to an absentee ballot

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Speaker 3: chase program over the last six weeks of the general elections,

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Speaker 3: where they've put at least ten million in they've pursued

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Speaker 3: the one point one to one point three Republican absentee

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Speaker 3: return This is something that the Republican Party kind of

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Speaker 3: used to do fairly well in other states, but has

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Speaker 3: things buck that really highlights how badly it has fallen

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Speaker 3: off is Arizona in twenty twenty two, in which just

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Speaker 3: over a million absentee ballots were requested by Republicans, only

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Speaker 3: six hundred and fifty were returned, or roughly sixty five percent.

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Speaker 3: If you had had eighty percent of absentee ballos returned

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Speaker 3: in Arizona, you would have won secretary of State. You

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Speaker 3: won everything and quite frankly, very definitively, but nobody took

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Speaker 3: in Arizona. That's why you actually lost every statewide. And

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Speaker 3: so my message right now is, don't get caught up

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Speaker 3: in the Trump DeSantis fight in the primary focus on

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Speaker 3: the fundamentals of how we're going to actually implement absentee

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Speaker 3: ballot chase programs in Arizona, in Nevada, in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia,

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Speaker 3: North Carolina. And if we don't figure that one out, Buck,

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Speaker 3: I think we're just having kind of really nice conversations

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Speaker 3: about who the nominee might be, who will actually lose

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Speaker 3: to Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: Is the DNC smarter than the RNC? I mean, is

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Speaker 1: there machinery just more efficient and better functioning than ours.

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Speaker 3: The fact of the matter is, since Obama and Organizing

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Speaker 3: for America, the DNC is really just a legal kind

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Speaker 3: of functional mechanism organization in which most of the political

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Speaker 3: power on the left, on the Democrat side, doesn't really

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Speaker 3: run through the DNC. They've gone and kind of branched

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Speaker 3: out into other things that have done a lot of

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Speaker 3: this absentee ballot chase program really well. In fact, someone's

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Speaker 3: told me I have not been able to independently confirm

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Speaker 3: this book, but I've heard that outside groups in Arizona

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Speaker 3: plowed about twenty to thirty million into absentee ballot chase

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Speaker 3: programs alone in Arizona. All outside groups, right, not state party,

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Speaker 3: not the DNC, most of that being outside groups.

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Speaker 1: I think gazy and just I think this is I

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Speaker 1: want to learn this too, right, I mean, you look

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Speaker 1: at this stuff. I think for everybody listening, it's important

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Speaker 1: we say like outside groups, right, I mean, take us

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Speaker 1: into the machinery here a little bit of if you say,

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Speaker 1: the DNC is just kind of a thing that's there,

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Speaker 1: almost like a figurehead for what I always refer to

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Speaker 1: as the Democrat apparatus. Where are the centers of power?

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Speaker 1: Like what action matters for Democrats to win elections? And

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Speaker 1: I mean in terms of the electoral tactics and get

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Speaker 1: who who's making that happen for them?

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Speaker 3: I mean part of it is that the candidates themselves,

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Speaker 3: the campaigns themselves, have figured this out. I mean, think

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Speaker 3: about the fact book really quick, Josh, Shapiro and Pennsylvania

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Speaker 3: didn't debate once in the gubernatorial race. Katie Hobbs in

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Speaker 3: Arizona didn't debate once in the Arizona gubernatorial race. Why

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Speaker 3: is that Because Democrats have figured out it's really not

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Speaker 3: about persuasion. It's not about persuading people to vote for you,

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Speaker 3: It's about understanding, have we seeded the field with enough

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Speaker 3: absentee ballots, with enough ballot requests for us to go

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Speaker 3: out and be able to collect them. And what they've done,

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Speaker 3: Buck is they have gone in and they've gotten a

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Speaker 3: lot of their low propensity voters. And just so people

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Speaker 3: one out of four, one out of four being a

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Speaker 3: done very very well on the left is they've gone

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Speaker 3: know we've actually pushed out a ton of ballots into

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Speaker 3: the universe. Then we know where they're at, and we're

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Speaker 3: now going to collect all of those ballots. Because we

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Speaker 3: them either through phone calls, peer to peer text, door

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Speaker 3: knocks to get them to return that ballot. We as Republicans,

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Speaker 3: have not done that. In Florida. We've done it fairly well.

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Speaker 3: We've done kind of the push. We've pushed people to

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Speaker 3: We had better figure out those strategies pretty quick. And

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Speaker 3: I have to tell you I just do not see

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Speaker 3: the R and C having First of all, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to be pretty rude here, the basic intelligence, the desire,

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Speaker 3: the willingness and ability to actually do a robust absentee

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Speaker 3: ballot chase and call it five to six presidential battleground states.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's in coming upon outside groups, and

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Speaker 3: obviously American Majority Action or C four is working with

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Speaker 3: some groups to say, regardless of what the R and

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Speaker 3: figure out or state GOP, we have to make sure

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Speaker 3: we facilitate maybe three, four or five presidential battleground state

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Speaker 3: absentee ballot chase programs in a very robust way. And

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Speaker 3: I've told the other folks that are involved, it has

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Speaker 3: to probably start at ten million over the last four

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Speaker 3: to six weeks whenever the ballots drop in a specific state.

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Speaker 1: Now, is it fair to say that, you know, you work,

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Speaker 1: you know, as CEO of American Majority, you're doing the

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Speaker 1: the ground pounding work of elections for the for Republicans,

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Speaker 1: the GOP, Conservatism, et cetera. Are you completely to write?

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Speaker 1: Are you out gunned at least just by the sheer

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Speaker 1: number and financing of the other side. I couldn't even care. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had a feeling like, give me a sense of

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Speaker 1: that scale and closed it Just it just feels like

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Speaker 1: everywhere I look, there's another organization that's doing the bidding

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Speaker 1: and the left and not all of them are fun

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Speaker 1: to buy sorrows, obviously a lot of them are.

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Speaker 2: And I wonder like, where did all this come from?

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Speaker 3: Well, I have to tell you, in fact, my new

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Speaker 3: op ed for American Greatness, where I write them, is

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Speaker 3: probably going to be a little brutal on think tanks.

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Speaker 3: I think that I think the right needs to really

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Speaker 3: examine what they're doing with a lot of their nonprofit money.

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Speaker 3: The left has been very sophisticated with how they spend

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Speaker 3: I'm even saying conniing fiddles while the Republic burns that

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Speaker 3: we're spending so much money on think tanks and white

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Speaker 3: papers that we need to start focusing on, you know,

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Speaker 3: two to three million a year in voter registration to

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Speaker 3: how we're doing no less than ten million to Absentie Balchase.

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Speaker 3: The left is far more sophisticated than we are right now,

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Speaker 3: and how they spend their nonprofit money. And again, if

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Speaker 3: you want to talk about yeah we outgunned, are we overwhelmed?

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Speaker 4: Again? I don't know how.

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Speaker 3: They did this legally, but Mark Zuckerberg with Center for

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Speaker 3: Tech and Civic Life dropping in four hundred plus million

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Speaker 3: into presidential battleground states, into blue counties to boost the

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Speaker 3: blue vote. I mean, that's just one example. It's obviously

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Speaker 3: a significant one, but you realize the left is plowing

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Speaker 3: not voter registration, if it's not some of this other stuff.

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Speaker 3: They're doing law fair, they're doing investigative journalism, they're doing

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Speaker 3: Floyer requests, they're doing a lot of different things to

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Speaker 3: throw sand into the gears of anybody on the right

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Speaker 3: that might be trying to do effective work. So we

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Speaker 3: got to figure out how we use our nonprofit money

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Speaker 3: much much better. And until we do, we're going to

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Speaker 3: be outgunned, and sadly, Buck I think outgunned pretty significantly.

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Speaker 1: So just I think that's such a important point about

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Speaker 1: the about the zucker Bucks issue. You know, people will

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Speaker 1: refer to this, Well, what actually happened there? I know

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Speaker 1: it is four hundred million dollars, and I know it

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Speaker 1: was to help Democrats. But so they're able to use

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Speaker 3: to go break for a Republican. You would have won

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Speaker 3: the state auditors race, and you would have beaten Keith

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Speaker 3: Ellison in the Attorney General's race. The numbers are there.

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Speaker 3: It can be done. So I want to give people

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Speaker 3: hope and knowing, hey, if you do the right things,

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Speaker 3: we could actually have some pretty good victories next year.

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Speaker 3: But simply hoping, simply wishing for that is not going

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Speaker 3: to actually get it done. We're going to have to

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Speaker 3: be seriously focused on and this is what I'm doing,

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Speaker 3: raising money to make sure that we're doing the voter registration,

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Speaker 3: working on doing absentee ballot chase. It's going to take

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Speaker 3: a lot of hard work and a lot of people

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Speaker 3: are going to have to actually buy into that philosophy

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Speaker 3: on our site and the good news this book. Wherever

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Speaker 3: I've gone out and trained on this this year, I'd

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Speaker 3: say ninety nine percent of people agreeing saying we need

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Speaker 3: to do this. We're going to commit to it, and

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Speaker 3: we're going to do everything that we can to make

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Speaker 3: sure this happens in our state. So I'm optimistic if

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Speaker 3: we do the right things, we can win. But there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of ground, a lot of things that need

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Speaker 3: to be done between April of twenty twenty three and

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Speaker 3: actually achieving that next fall in twenty twenty four. So

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Speaker 3: we got a lot of work to do, but it

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Speaker 3: can be done.

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Speaker 2: NED.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, can I ask you to tell

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Speaker 1: everybody about your Virginian You've been on the forefront of

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Speaker 1: some of the political battles there, including some of the

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Speaker 1: I want a full I want a full NED report

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Speaker 1: card on Youngkin. And also I want a net report

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Speaker 1: let's let's start with Youngkin. You know I was all excited.

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Speaker 1: I was on the for Virginians. I was certainly given

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Speaker 1: high fives for for Youngkins, big big win, and we

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Speaker 1: needed a little bit of a boost at for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty And how's he done ned I mean, and by

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Speaker 1: the way, is he a possible presidential contender. I haven't

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Speaker 1: heard anything about that.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna run in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: I think he's pretty realistic that right now you've got

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Speaker 3: two heavyweights. I would argue, one super heavyweight with Trump

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Speaker 3: and another heavyweight with DeSantis, and the polls reflect that.

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Speaker 3: And quite frankly, Youngkin's been doing a really good job

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Speaker 3: in here Virginia, especially considering he doesn't have the state Senate.

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Speaker 3: He's got the House of Delegates fifty two to forty eight,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't have the state Senate, but he's been able

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Speaker 3: to achieve some good things on a host of fronts,

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Speaker 3: and he's he and Jason Millais and win some series

506
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Speaker 3: have been doing his best they can without having the

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Speaker 3: full political power needed to achieve some of these policy goals.

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Speaker 3: But Glenn Youngkin right now, and I think part of

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Speaker 3: this might be part of the reason buck that he's

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Speaker 3: kind of foregoing a presidential I want to remind people

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Speaker 3: this year in Virginia, we have every state Senate race,

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Speaker 3: and we have every House of Delegate race, and if

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Speaker 3: Glenn Youngkin wants to be able to have that last

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Speaker 3: year of his governorship to achieve some policy things he's

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Speaker 3: going to actually need to have the State Senate, and

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Speaker 3: it's going to be a battle Royale. The maps are

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Speaker 3: going to be really tough buck for us to get

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Speaker 3: to a twenty twenty tie. Right now, it's twenty one

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Speaker 3: to nineteen, actually twenty two eighteen. For us to get

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Speaker 3: to a twenty twenty tie. For Winson to have the

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Speaker 3: tie breaking vote is going to be an incredible achievements

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Speaker 3: can be very hard, So I think Glenn's focused on that.

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Speaker 4: We're going to be focused as well.

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Speaker 3: On on maybe adding a seat or two to the

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Speaker 3: House of Delegates majority. But if you were to ask me,

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Speaker 3: and I haven't talked to him, I don't really have

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Speaker 3: that connection with young Kin, But if if I were

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Speaker 3: to guess, I would say he's going to be putting

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Speaker 3: a lot of time and resources into trying to get

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Speaker 3: keep the majority in the House of Delegates, hopefully get

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Speaker 3: to at least a twenty twenty time in the State

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Speaker 3: Senate so he can have one year to really achieve

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Speaker 3: some of these policy goals that he really wants to achieve.

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Speaker 1: So so far, I mean it sounds to me like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to put words in your mouth.

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Speaker 2: What's the letter grade?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I would say, given what he's been able to do,

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Speaker 3: there's been a couple maybe I would quibble with.

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Speaker 4: I'd give him a solid A minus.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, it sounds a minus or

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Speaker 1: B plus territory.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say, for somebody who is in

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Speaker 3: what is most assuredly a purple state, he's he's been

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Speaker 3: doing a really good job on what he has the

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Speaker 3: ability to do. Let's put it that way. So I

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Speaker 3: think Glenn Youngkin has a future in Republican politics. I

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Speaker 3: don't think it's twenty twenty four, but maybe it's. Maybe

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Speaker 3: it's after that.

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Speaker 1: Is Virginia in play for Republican in twenty twenty four?

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Speaker 4: Maybe? And the reason I say that buck is a lot.

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Speaker 2: I could say maybe, but you keep going.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, think about it, Glenn Younkin.

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Speaker 3: Really, I mean, he had Terry mcculliff throw them all

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Speaker 3: kinds of gifts coming down the home stretch. A lot

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Speaker 3: of people really woke up those last thirty forty days

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Speaker 3: and said, we can win Virginia. Young can only win

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Speaker 3: by what about two points? So even then we kind

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Speaker 3: of caught them by surprise. I think there's going to

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Speaker 3: be like it kind of goes back to and I

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Speaker 3: don't want to sound like a broken record.

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Speaker 4: If the work is.

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Speaker 3: Done to actually do voter registration and absentee ballot chase

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Speaker 3: in Virginia which is a little harder than some other

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Speaker 3: states because we don't register by party in Virginia. If

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Speaker 3: we do those things, I have every reason to believe

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Speaker 3: that it can make Virginia really competitive in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: But it's are we going to invest the time and

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Speaker 3: money into the functional aspects that will make it.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like the Virginia GOP, then is it is

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Speaker 1: in a maybe better than average place, because like the Penncil,

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Speaker 1: from what I understand from my Pennsylvania friends, for example,

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Speaker 1: the Democrat the Democrat machine in Pennsylvania is just kicking

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Speaker 1: the ass of the Republican machine in Pennsylvania in every

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Speaker 1: possible way, have them outplay and outfunded, outthought. And I'm like, guys,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a big deal, right, This isn't This

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Speaker 1: isn't like Rhode Island. You know, this is Pennsylvania. It's

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Speaker 1: an important battleground state. Virginia is in a little better

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Speaker 1: Like how would you gauge that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Does like really? I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because of Glenn Youngkin, But you have to understand,

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Speaker 3: most state parties are have no funding, they have no

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Speaker 3: ability to actually perform a lot of these things. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I would say, I'm I'm a fan of the Virginia

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Speaker 3: GOP folks. I think they're doing the best they can

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Speaker 3: considering their limited finances. But this, this is of some concern.

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Speaker 3: If we're not going to have really strong state gops,

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Speaker 3: we better figure out outside groups that are going to

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Speaker 3: be very robustly funded to be able to do some

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Speaker 3: of those functions. So, yeah, I think it's I think

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Speaker 3: it's doing fine. I would give it definitely not as

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Speaker 3: good a great as Glenn Youngkin, but it it's hanging

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Speaker 3: in there. It's just it's a very hard job book

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Speaker 3: to run a state GOP in many parts thanks to McCain,

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Speaker 3: fine gold, but it's just it's really hard to do

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Speaker 3: and do it effectively. And I would argue probably of

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Speaker 3: the fifty state gops, there's maybe ten that are actually

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Speaker 3: well enough funded to do effective work.

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Speaker 1: Wow, well, let's let's come back in a second, Ned too,

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Speaker 1: how the Trump campaign is doing thus far, and what

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Speaker 1: campaign at this early stage, how's it looking. Who's doing what?

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Speaker 1: What do they need to change? What are they doing?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: Buck Obviously Susie Wiles. Susie Wiles is really running the

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Speaker 3: show for Trump. You know, Susie and I had our differences,

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Speaker 3: to be honest about the RNC chair race. I was

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Speaker 3: essentially running Harmeat Dellon's whip team the Trump campaign. The

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Speaker 3: Trump folks were behind Ron and getting her reelected, getting

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Speaker 3: her slate, trying to get them elected.

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Speaker 4: The other two lost. It is what it is.

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Speaker 3: Still a big fan of Susie's because I think what's

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Speaker 3: ran the absentee ballot chase program, that know exactly what

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Speaker 3: and so that should get people hope that the people

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Speaker 3: he's going to be successful. I do not think there

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Speaker 3: can be a lot of big donors behind Trump. Is

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Speaker 3: going to be Trump and the small dollars donor base

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Speaker 3: against some of the donor class in the primary. I

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Speaker 3: give the nod to Donald Trump that he's going to

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Speaker 3: be able to pull it out, and I think some

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Speaker 3: of the donor class will come back to him in

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Speaker 3: the general, or they'll find outside groups that will be

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Speaker 3: a benefit to him. You know, I have to tell you,

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Speaker 3: I think the Trump campaign is doing everything that it

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Speaker 3: needs to do right now.

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Speaker 4: They know they're the front runner. They know that they are.

656
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Speaker 3: Really that eight hundred pound guerrilla and quite frankly, Donald

657
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Speaker 3: Trump knows how to use that power and that ability

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Speaker 3: to go after who he perceives to be some of

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Speaker 3: his biggest opponents. And I think he's been extremely effective

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Speaker 3: if you look at the poll numbers. So not over yet,

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Speaker 3: but you know, there are a lot of good things

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Speaker 3: that are actually happening with the Trump campaign.

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Speaker 1: Who do we have to win in order to win

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Speaker 1: in the White House in twenty twenty four that we

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Speaker 1: didn't in twenty twenty, right, I mean that's where.

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Speaker 2: That would be.

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Speaker 4: That would be sturban women.

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Speaker 1: If it see okay, But so like Cintery, I talked

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Speaker 1: to Ryan Grodowski about this recently too, and I was,

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Speaker 1: I like to ask the people who know, right, because

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Speaker 1: this is like when you know, when I was in

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Speaker 1: the CIA, You know, you get the smartest silence you

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Speaker 1: ken and room. You ask them three of them the

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Speaker 1: same question, you're gonna get three variations. They're gonna be

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Speaker 1: rooted in the reality, but three variations of what they

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Speaker 1: think are you know what they assess? And I see here,

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, how ned does Trump when suburban women?

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Speaker 1: I mean, in all honesty, I asked the question because

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Speaker 1: I if someone put that, someone told me the way way, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to know it. Ryan said, no chance.

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Speaker 1: Ryan said it's totally screwed.

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Speaker 3: So well, so no, I think there's some ways obviously

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump is it's a hard sell to suburban white women.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a couple of things that he's going

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Speaker 3: to have to do that he can do. One, he's

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Speaker 3: gonna have to find a vice presidential candidate that appeals

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Speaker 3: to them. I'm proposing Kim Reynolds the governor of Island.

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Speaker 2: She's actually a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's actually a lot of people have called her

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Speaker 3: the Ron DeSantis of the Midwest. I mean, some people

691
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Speaker 3: are going to have that perspective. She's very good. I

692
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Speaker 3: think that would mitigate some of that. For Trump, I

693
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Speaker 3: think he's going to go after some of these issues

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Speaker 3: that appeal to suburban moms. I think the transgender issue,

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Speaker 3: if I'm being honest, in women's sports and high school

696
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Speaker 3: women's sports can help him. So I think there's some

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a tough sell, Buck, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think we've got to be realistic. It's going to

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Speaker 3: be a hard sell. So that then the question becomes,

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Speaker 3: how do you build out your voter base. How do

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Speaker 3: you get enough ballots out there to maybe overcome some

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Speaker 3: of that, Because you know it's going to be it's

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Speaker 3: going to be a hard sell in those battleground stays

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Speaker 3: of those suburban white white women. It is we should

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Speaker 3: be realistic about it. So how do we mitigate that?

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Speaker 3: How do we overcome it?

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Speaker 1: What about white working class voters who came over for

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Speaker 1: Trump in twenty sixteen and May have sat out in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, even you know the one. I've seen some

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Speaker 1: data to suggest that they didn't necessarily go Biden, but

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Speaker 1: there were some stay homes. And look this we're speaking

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Speaker 1: very broad terms, but you know, the America First message

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Speaker 1: of changing the way we do trade with particularly China,

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Speaker 1: but just in general, and I'm bringing back manufacturing. You

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Speaker 1: know in Ross Belt states that really seemed to resonate.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it doesn't seem to me that resonated

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Speaker 1: the same way in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean again, I haven't looked. I couldn't tell

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Speaker 3: you the numbers off the top of my head, but

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Speaker 3: I know there were a lot of people that voted

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Speaker 3: Obama in twenty twelve voted Trump in twenty sixteen in

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Speaker 3: that Upper Roust Belt. I think it comes down to

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Speaker 3: I'm sounded like a broken record.

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Speaker 2: Bucket guess, let me guess.

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Speaker 1: We'll get ballot chase and getting the votes out and

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Speaker 1: get a.

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Speaker 3: Ballot like this is the thing, Like I'm telling you,

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Speaker 3: this can be done if we can get to these

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Speaker 3: people and say I need you to re quest about

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Speaker 3: or the other thing too that I'm also training people

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Speaker 3: on is please get it out of your head that

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Speaker 3: election day is the only aspect of election season. Here

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Speaker 3: in Virginia, we start voting six day, six weeks out,

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Speaker 3: So you need to start voting at the beginning of

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Speaker 3: election season, not on election day, because if you really

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Speaker 3: like your candidate, you're going to literally save them four

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Speaker 3: times the money that they're going to spend if you

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Speaker 3: don't vote early on text calls, door knocks. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: one of those things where the outreach was not what

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Speaker 3: it should have been. This is why I was so

742
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Speaker 3: frustrated about the RNC race. To be completely honest, Buck

743
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Speaker 3: in January, the RNC was miserable, failed completely on the

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Speaker 3: voter outreach that it should have done, could have done.

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Speaker 3: And if some of those components are not there and

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Speaker 3: you're not as focused as you should be, this is

747
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Speaker 3: what happens. People that should be your voters stay home

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Speaker 3: because you haven't hit them enough times to get them

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Speaker 3: to the polls. So I have to tell you if

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Speaker 3: we do not if we are not firing on all

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Speaker 3: cylinders next year in regards to outreach, registration, ballot request,

752
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Speaker 3: election season, yeah, we're up against it.

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Speaker 4: It can be done.

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Speaker 3: But what I'm now you're really getting me frustrated about

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Speaker 3: the R and C and and those folks that are

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Speaker 3: running it. But you know, I'm going to ignore them

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Speaker 3: and we're going to do the best we can without them.

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Speaker 1: How does I mean you've been talking about these things.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's it's it's it's interesting to hear about.

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Speaker 1: I think people are curious, Like we say, do do

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Speaker 1: ballot chase?

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Speaker 2: Like what? What?

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Speaker 1: How does this actually work? Like if I put you

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Speaker 1: in charge of getting the absentee ballot thing done in

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, like Wisconsin, right, that'll be

766
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Speaker 1: an important state. How does that work? What do you do?

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Speaker 4: So I'll use Virginia as an examples some of that

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Speaker 4: this year.

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Speaker 2: Virginia.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but just to explain a little bit, So you

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Speaker 3: can request a ballot, an absentee ballot up to twelve

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Speaker 3: days before the election. Right, So what we're going to

773
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Speaker 3: be doing is getting people to We're going to push

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Speaker 3: them to request a ballot all the way up until

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Speaker 3: the deadline.

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Speaker 4: We know that I.

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Speaker 1: Really I really want this, like stell, like, how do

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Speaker 1: you put what are you doing? You're sending out emails, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: register for an absent jaam, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, we'll find We'll find the people that have

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Speaker 3: either been traditional ballot requests or people that will will

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Speaker 3: actually model that we think our potential, and we'll mail them.

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Speaker 3: We'll probably mail them a ballot absentee ballot request form

784
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Speaker 3: in some of the state center races we're in to

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Speaker 3: get that form into their hands. To encourage them, you

786
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Speaker 3: need to fill this out and send it in. Once

787
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Speaker 3: they get in, the mail will proably fill up with

788
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Speaker 3: a peer to peer text. We'll probably fall up with

789
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Speaker 3: a phone call. The idea being we want to expand

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Speaker 3: our universe of ballots to get them in there, and

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Speaker 3: then once they're in the greater universe, we know where

792
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Speaker 3: they're at. Right, we know that somebody at this address

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Speaker 3: has a ballot, and it literally becomes a series of harassments.

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Speaker 4: Book. I mean, that is not rocket science.

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Speaker 3: As soon as you know who's requested about where they're at,

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Speaker 3: you call them, you text them, you knock on the door.

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Speaker 3: Here in Virginia, we can actually ballot harvest, intend to

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Speaker 3: within all legal limits be able to do that, and

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Speaker 3: we will do that. So it becomes a series of

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Speaker 3: harassments to say we want your ballot, you have a ballot,

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Speaker 3: let's return that ballot, and let's get it in before

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Speaker 3: you know the deadline.

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Speaker 1: So what are the like for Virginia. I know it's

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Speaker 1: different state to state, but ballot harvesting. Can you just

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Speaker 1: can you have somebody you know who works for American Majority?

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Speaker 1: Can you have somebody just go to like, you know,

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Speaker 1: a big apartment.

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Speaker 4: We're harvesting here.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Yeah, churches.

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Speaker 4: Were actually harvesting here.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. In fact, it's one of those things that I

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Speaker 3: want to have a conversation with some of these churches

814
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Speaker 3: and go, hey, it's legal, you can do it. We

815
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Speaker 3: should be doing it by all means legal where it's

816
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Speaker 3: been decided in the state. This is a legal approach

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Speaker 3: to actually how you vote and collect ballots.

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Speaker 4: We should do everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you can, I mean, but how do you think

820
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Speaker 3: we have the House of Representatives? And what otherwise was

821
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Speaker 3: a absolutely complete miserable year. California republic and New York

822
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Speaker 3: Republicans decided, hey, it's legal to harvest, it's legal to

823
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Speaker 3: do all these things. We're going to actually do all

824
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Speaker 3: of that. That's in many ways why we have the

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Speaker 3: US House of Representatives. Because California and New York Republicans

826
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Speaker 3: decided these are the rules of the game. We're going

827
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Speaker 3: to play the game by these rules.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 3: I am going to hopefully and we'll see and again,

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Speaker 3: this is what I hope to do. Get as many

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Speaker 3: churches as possible to actually ballot Harvest here in Virginia.

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Speaker 2: Very interesting.

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Speaker 1: Well, Ned, please save the country and help us win

834
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Speaker 1: the next election. Okay, can you work on that.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying, man, It's going to be It is going

836
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: to be hard, and I hope that enough people understand

837
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Speaker 3: we got a lot of hard work.

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Speaker 4: It can be done.

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Speaker 3: The Republic's in the balance book, and that's why I'm

840
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 3: so focused on this stuff. Between now and twenty twenty four.

841
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Speaker 3: Let's put in the hard work. Let's see if we

842
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 3: got a shot at restoring the Republic, because that's what's

843
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: really at stake in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: People want to help out at American Majority, where should

845
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: they go?

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00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 3: Go to Americamajority dot org. That's our website. You can

847
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 3: request training, you can become involved with us. They can

848
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 3: always follow me on Twitter at ned Ryan. They can

849
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: see some of the stuff I'm pushing out and talking about.

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Speaker 3: So Americanmajority dot org is a great place for them

851
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: to check out with all the resources and how they

852
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: can engage with us.

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Speaker 1: Ed Ryan one of the best in the business. Sir,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for hanging out. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Buck