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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines.

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Speaker 2: He is Hanging with the Boys, presented by wing Stuff

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Speaker 2: Where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts, Nate Newton,

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Speaker 2: Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon.

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Speaker 3: Gross Well, today's Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: I guess since Jesse thought it was Monday. Yes, Hey, Wednesday,

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show. You look alive yvery festive. Tostitos

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Speaker 4: Championship Plaza outside fortnsabatar for the Star Texas where fellas

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Speaker 4: I think fall at the end of November has finally

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Speaker 4: made it to Texas. Sixty one degrees, the highest sixty two,

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Speaker 4: the lowest forty five.

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Speaker 5: He is neat That is Kurt. Three pumps Daniels, this

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Speaker 5: is shit in the back of Christy and keeping his

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Speaker 5: live local. I am Salt and Pepper Poppy. Together we

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Speaker 4: Where Favorite gets its.

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Speaker 6: Wee trying to make it back, trying to get back

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Speaker 6: on that field.

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Speaker 5: Shout out shout out to my shout out to my guy,

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Speaker 5: my friend, my brother, my business partner, Dale Oakes. He

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Speaker 5: loves this show. He watches our show at night, like

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Speaker 5: after his day is over.

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Speaker 6: We are part of his like winding down and he goes.

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Speaker 5: He goes, Man, I laugh so hard sometimes I'm afraid

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna wake up the people in the house because

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Speaker 5: you guys are always so funny. Said, We're funny, but

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Speaker 5: yet informational. So if you if you're looking for a

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Speaker 5: good time, this is where you need to be.

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Speaker 6: You know, we said we're informative. We are very informative.

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Speaker 6: Because you said you did a Nate new He said, informational.

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Speaker 5: That was no, you're right, you're right. What you hang

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Speaker 5: around certain people, you begin to you pick up there.

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Speaker 5: We're very informative.

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Speaker 2: Nine ten, oh, man, how you guys doing doing much better?

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Speaker 6: Man had a great impersonation of you. Yes, I caught

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Speaker 6: the last half. I didn't catch the beginning. He let

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Speaker 6: us know how many times you said, I don't want

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Speaker 6: to make it about me. Oh, I'm gonna make something about.

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Speaker 5: You sitting there, make it about you.

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's making about to make it about Is

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Speaker 4: there another show that you do that the host makes

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Speaker 4: it more about themselves than me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So, I mean, if you really want to think about it, Nick,

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Speaker 4: he's only got.

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Speaker 7: Oh Man, middles and dentals Wednesdays.

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Speaker 6: How you doing? Good? Good Man, good, good, good, good, Kurt.

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Speaker 8: Good eight Sundays? So back off on the winter stuff.

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Speaker 7: Is it really eighty degrees on Sunday?

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Speaker 6: Oh man?

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Speaker 7: What is going on?

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Speaker 4: What is going on with the way if you don't

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Speaker 4: think the weather patterns are changing? At least in Texas,

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Speaker 4: there has been more hail and crazy severe weather the

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Speaker 4: last what year and a half two years, and the

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Speaker 4: seasons are changing, and like, I don't know what's going on,

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Speaker 4: but it's it's wild in Texas.

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Speaker 6: So how you doing, Nate Man, I'm doing beautiful man,

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Speaker 6: My boy back and he just horbed me to suggestion

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Speaker 6: when he was just kept saying and he kept making

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Speaker 6: it by him it ain't shining then, but the head

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Speaker 6: sizes would say, to make it about Nate. Uh.

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Speaker 5: This is what he tried to do yesterday. He made

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Speaker 5: it about himself, but then trying to like well, I

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Speaker 6: Of the bus first.

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Speaker 5: He was like, oh, not about anyway to make it

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Speaker 5: about Nate Pop pop Nate Congratulations.

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Speaker 6: Hey, yeah, what's that mangratulations the fourth? Oh you're talking

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Speaker 6: about I'm gonna tell you how slow I am, brother Jesse,

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Speaker 6: since you brought it up. It was a month ago, yeah,

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Speaker 6: year ago. They just put it on. My son kept

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Speaker 6: This morning, I was like, man, I gotta tell Jess

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Speaker 4: Hey, I don't deal with Roman normals unless it's unless

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh my god. I'm like, man, I'm like, so

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Speaker 6: now I got to call myself said I finally got it.

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Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, daddy, you finally got that's crazy.

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Speaker 6: That is awesome. And if you don't know date.

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Speaker 7: That's not a bit no, like he is just getting

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Speaker 6: It was like bam, it was last night in the bit.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, oh this got to happen, no more than

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Speaker 6: you just me right?

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Speaker 8: Oh sure yeah?

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Speaker 6: God like yeah yeah oh man wow.

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Speaker 4: So speaking of Brandon Cooks could be back this week,

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Speaker 4: sound like Kneeland right might be back.

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Speaker 6: They open up the window. So question for you.

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Speaker 4: Guys is players, former players, when your team is not

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Speaker 4: doing great and they're as bad as this team is it,

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Speaker 4: do you delay that as much as you can? I mean,

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Speaker 4: you want to get out there and fight. You do

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Speaker 4: it for the guys, right, the teammates, and you don't

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Speaker 4: want to let your teammates down. You don't want anybody

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Speaker 4: to know that you're not trying to get out there

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Speaker 4: and contribute because you're still professional athletes and that's what

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Speaker 4: being a professional is, right, Like you know, you think

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Speaker 4: about it, It's like, why would guys even go out

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Speaker 6: That's what you do.

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Speaker 4: You don't you know, even if you know you're retiring

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Speaker 4: or you're going to another job, if you're a true

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Speaker 4: that two weeks out right, That's just what you do

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Speaker 4: as a human being.

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Speaker 6: That's what you do as a human being. A lot

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Speaker 4: But you know, being a professional is a professional, whether

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Speaker 6: But when you're do you push?

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Speaker 4: Is it hard to get back out there knowing that

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Speaker 4: it doesn't really in the grand scheme of things, it

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Speaker 6: Let's you know what, before Jess go, let's have a

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, before you get mine's gonna be quick.

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Speaker 5: You're seeing it's gonna have some more meat to it.

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say, you're looking at two players who

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Speaker 6: Brandon Cooks donna tell end of his career.

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Speaker 5: So for him, he ain't got many more games left

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Speaker 5: in him like as a player, right, And the Marshan

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Speaker 5: Leland he's he ain't got no games in them, right,

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Speaker 5: So he's trying to get back. He's in, I want

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Speaker 5: to play. I'm new at this thing. This is no

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Speaker 5: matter what the record is, it's still exciting for marshaw

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Speaker 5: naland it's still the eye popping deer in the headlights

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Speaker 5: that I'm in the National Football League for Brandon Cooks

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Speaker 5: is bro I don't got many more of these things left.

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Speaker 5: So whatever I can get, whatever I can go out

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Speaker 5: there and do. I want to go out there and

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Speaker 5: I'm heading to the crib for good.

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Speaker 6: And you never know when your last season is gonna be.

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Speaker 6: In what I'm saying, pick you up.

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Speaker 5: Right, he's nearing that, whether it's on his own or

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Speaker 5: the league just goes.

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Speaker 6: We appreciate you coming out. God bless you. Good night.

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Speaker 5: So you got two different guys on two different ends

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Speaker 5: the other ones.

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Speaker 6: Like, I don't got too many more these left, so

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Speaker 6: I want to go out there. Okay, good point. You know,

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Speaker 6: I like the speech that you gave. But in real life,

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Speaker 6: when you give a two week notice, eighty percent of

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Speaker 6: the people don't don't do any work. That's real life.

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Speaker 6: But now in football, like in real life, it's about integrity.

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Speaker 6: Now you find out who really loves football and who's

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Speaker 6: this guy who just waiting on Tuesday. Now we would

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Speaker 6: never know that. And here because yeah, yeah, I think.

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Speaker 5: Directly what they call you, mister Holly at the bank

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Speaker 5: not the bank.

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Speaker 6: I would have never thought when I got into the

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Speaker 6: league that that was going on, but I saw that

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Speaker 6: when we was three and thirteen one in fifteen, I

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Speaker 6: things that was six to eight weeks or three to

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Speaker 6: They didn't come back. But then within a year and

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Speaker 6: these guys had these same injuries. They were back in

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Speaker 6: two and three weeks. They were healing. Oh I'm a

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Speaker 6: fast healer. Well two years ago. So it's each individual

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Speaker 6: up front it wasn't a question. That's why the nation

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Speaker 6: rallied around Dak because we know who Dak is. And

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Speaker 6: I'm just gonna use him as example. If more guys

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Speaker 6: had that heart and that push, you would have better

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Speaker 6: football around the league. You would have better, more high end,

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Speaker 6: more competitive games around the league. And I'm just gonna

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Speaker 4: Do you just stay kind of on the player mentality,

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Speaker 4: because I think fans have probably they probably have accepted

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Speaker 4: the reality within the last three to four weeks that

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Speaker 4: this team's.

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Speaker 6: Not gonna make the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Right, the season's basically over. You're just looking at I

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Speaker 4: think there's things you can still be excited for as

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Speaker 4: want to see play. There's some you know, some things

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Speaker 4: you can look forward to. But as a athlete and

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Speaker 4: your health and your longevity and you know all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: Everybody gets into the game because it's fun, right, it's exciting.

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Speaker 4: Like you love to play football, you love to play sports,

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Speaker 8: Compete, standing and watching, right, But when you.

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Speaker 4: Get to the professional level, I think sometimes as a

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Speaker 4: fan you look at it you realize, Okay, it's a job, right,

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Speaker 4: They're out there doing a job. And if you work

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Speaker 4: in an organization or if you're around football long enough,

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Speaker 4: you realize that it is a job and it is work.

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Speaker 6: And it's the fun.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you lose sight of the fun part from the

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Speaker 4: outside looking in. Is it still fun for guys to

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Speaker 4: been in the league five ten years? Or is the

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Speaker 4: mentality like, you know, I gotta go out there and

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Speaker 4: do this. Or is it even when you're having a

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Speaker 5: I heard Will McClay say that out of his mouth.

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Speaker 6: His job is to replace. He literally sadder than you.

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Speaker 5: Right, He's like, oh man, he goes yeah, and he said,

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Speaker 6: Let's go have drinks. Help bring here. I'm trying to

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Speaker 6: That's what he's doing.

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Speaker 5: And he's excited about kneeling, he's excited about overshowing, he's

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Speaker 6: But he's saying, what.

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Speaker 6: And in the today's media, I wish was back when

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Speaker 6: you know, not off the field craziness. They were not,

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Speaker 6: He's on Media Match today, by the way.

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Speaker 7: He's over on media three days a week.

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Speaker 5: open up for those guys to come back, and how

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Speaker 5: do guys look at what the season is going. And

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Speaker 5: Brandon Cooks he said, uh, he hopes to sparkle change.

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Speaker 5: And the quote that he used was, I think we

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Speaker 5: can go out there and be more joyful in the process.

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Speaker 5: That's from Brandon Cooks. That's a guy who's been around

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Speaker 5: this league for a long time. So you know it

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Speaker 5: just it says Brendon says Brandon Cook said the sting

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Speaker 5: the losing street the Dallas Cowboys have been on. He

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Speaker 5: hopes to spark a change, and I think we can

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Speaker 5: go out there and be more joyful in the process.

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Speaker 4: Is that a read between the lines that there's.

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Speaker 5: No that's a veteran guy that understands that I get

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Speaker 5: to play football. That's a veteran guy that says I

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Speaker 5: get to playful.

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Speaker 4: But by him saying we can be more joyful, is

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Speaker 4: that him kind of saying that guys over there aren't

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Speaker 4: having fun right now. It's probably it's a bad locker room,

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Speaker 4: probably his attitude and the way things are.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you read it between the lines.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's one thing that you hope doesn't

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Speaker 4: because what is it, a third of every roster turns

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Speaker 4: over every year anyway?

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Speaker 6: Is that about minimal? About a minimal and with.

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Speaker 5: And that's for sure this team this year, because I

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Speaker 5: think it's a third of the guys of this roster

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Speaker 5: who will have expired.

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Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, So you're and it's just as minute coaches

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Speaker 6: thirty two of them.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, so you're probably probably looking at it tea. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 13: on a normal year, it's a third. Yeah, so a

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Speaker 13: year like this man.

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Speaker 8: There's like twenty seven twenty eight guys on their last

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Speaker 8: year country.

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Speaker 4: So you would think it would probably be closer to

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Speaker 4: half this year with all the personnel issues and the

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Speaker 4: way they're talking about you don't.

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Speaker 6: Have the right people into explosions.

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Speaker 4: So that's I mean, that's one thing I think you

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Speaker 4: could be. Another good thing is you have an opportunity

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Speaker 4: after this year to we talk about culture a lot, right,

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Speaker 4: changes it completely because you're gonna half your team's probably

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Speaker 4: gonna be gone, right and you.

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Speaker 5: You get to but the core pieces will still be here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's.

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Speaker 8: Kind of a They're a difficult position now though, right

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Speaker 8: because normally you would say, let's start building for next year.

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Speaker 8: Let's see what who's this guy's got, that guy got

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Speaker 8: But who knows what's you know, it could be a

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Speaker 8: whole new coaching staff, how the team could be changed.

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Speaker 8: I mean it's how do you prepare when you don't

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Speaker 8: know what's in the future.

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Speaker 6: But who has to prepare them? No one's got to

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Speaker 6: We ain't got to do nothing. Who has to prepare?

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Speaker 8: Well, I guess as a team as if you're thinking

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Speaker 8: about they already got.

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Speaker 6: They already got a plan A and they got a

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Speaker 6: Plan B. That's one thing that we all know in here.

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Speaker 6: You have to have a plan A and a plan B.

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Speaker 6: If it goes this way, this is what we're going

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Speaker 6: to try to do. And I'm not saying it's gonna

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Speaker 6: be successful, mister Jones, then have a plan A and

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Speaker 6: a Plan B. I promise you. You know they I

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Speaker 6: don't think they could have gotten this far in any

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Speaker 6: of their businesses without that possibility that things may fall apart.

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Speaker 5: You know, Oh no, I don't think you had a

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Speaker 5: plan for this. Yeah, I don't think you have a

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Speaker 5: planing this. This This guy out of hand real quick.

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Speaker 5: And I really do think. I do think coming into

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Speaker 5: this year that he was of the mindset that we

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Speaker 5: were going to reset some things.

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Speaker 6: But not this meaning it was hard. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 6: like you know what, you like, turn your phone off?

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Speaker 6: You're like, yeah, he's like hard.

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Speaker 5: He's like, you know, we're gonna be competitive.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: It might be seven eight nine wins, we're competitive, and

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Speaker 5: there might be hope for us to get the division

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Speaker 5: that towards.

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Speaker 6: The end of the year.

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Speaker 5: Right, Wow, he didn't think when we got to about

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Speaker 5: week nine, eight nine, and it was like, I don't

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Speaker 5: think he thought it was gonna be this bad. And

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Speaker 5: you ain't win a home game in the last six

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Speaker 5: home games, and and and you you five right dating

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Speaker 5: back to playoffs last ship. I'm just saying, like, in

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty four, you ain't think it's gonna be bad

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Speaker 5: enough where you're the only so unbelievable, you're the only

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Speaker 5: male stop.

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Speaker 6: I don't go through that again.

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Speaker 5: Team and any major sport in the year of twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty four that has not won a home game Baseball, basketball, football,

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Speaker 5: and hockey, the Cowboys are the only ones who have.

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Speaker 4: Don't say it ka stat yesterday.

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Speaker 8: So it's like the Cowboys. The Cowboys have five touchdowns

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Speaker 8: at home this year at eight in eighteen teen stadium.

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Speaker 8: The Saints have six touchdowns in at and T stadium.

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Speaker 8: Saints have actually have more touchdowns this year in than

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Speaker 8: the stadium and the Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: And Detroit Detroit has five.

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Speaker 6: Detroit has five. Boy, Hey, they stayed together.

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Speaker 5: May we had this all days? Detroit Lion excuse me, Lions,

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Speaker 5: Bears and Tigers. Oh all of them. Troy Tigers might

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Speaker 5: come inhere and get five touchdowns. Man, y'all want to

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Speaker 5: talk about the sad Frans? Def I mean save France.

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Speaker 5: Well here, hey, let's take a break first and then

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Speaker 5: we can come.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we will give you.

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Speaker 4: Great stat by Kurt Monday Night's game drew seventeen million viewers,

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Speaker 4: the second most watched Week eleven game in the ESPN

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Speaker 4: era since two thousand and six.

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Speaker 5: TV said, as long as you spell men right.

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Speaker 7: It's like, how like you knew that was gonna.

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Speaker 6: Be because something fell out of the sky.

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Speaker 4: Like people just you either love the Cowboys and you

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Speaker 4: hope they.

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Speaker 7: Lose, or when they're losing, you just.

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Speaker 4: Like to watch the destruction, right and like because there's

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Speaker 4: always something that's gonna happen right before the game, like

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Speaker 4: this week, during the game, after the game, the week,

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Speaker 4: there's always something going on and people just love to

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Speaker 6: Man, that's unbelievable. We kept we kept a tight end

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Speaker 6: zone right yeah, because man, I didn't want to I

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Speaker 6: did not want to see that tap it on, like

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Speaker 6: we will do that.

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Speaker 5: Keep Oh yeah, you know he had a celebration.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was like.

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Speaker 5: They probabould have got like a kid. They probably have

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Speaker 6: He's the tour.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's take our last break. When we come back,

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Speaker 7: Washington d defense.

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Speaker 4: In the last ten minutes of the show. Here's here's

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Speaker 4: a fun stat because it seems like every single week

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Speaker 4: we read this the other way around.

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Speaker 6: How about this one.

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Speaker 4: Washington has struggled versus the run. They ranked thirtieth in

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Speaker 4: both total yards. Who's below them?

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Speaker 6: Kurt Lock that up? They ranked thirtieth in.

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Speaker 4: Both total yards allowed sixteen hundred and fifty five and

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Speaker 4: and two, one sixty four and two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 4: eight yards in the last four games.

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Speaker 6: So that's a positive, right?

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Speaker 7: Is this gonna be a on both sides of the ball?

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Speaker 6: Just throw a few passes. It's one of the fastest

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Speaker 6: played games in America because.

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Speaker 7: There'll be running plays every play. Ye, no clock stoppages

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Speaker 7: in the pass.

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Speaker 6: The thing the thing about this suggests you meant me

663
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Speaker 6: the thing about is they run a base for three defense. Yes, sir,

664
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Speaker 6: the two I've only watched a half of the two

665
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 6: losses Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. They had more movement early in

666
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 6: the game against Philadelphia, ran a few more games, a

667
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 6: few more twists, a few more stunts. They have twenty

668
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 6: nine sacks, giving up one hundred and fifty yards a game.

669
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Speaker 6: As you already stated, what I want to say is

670
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 6: they still got pain. That other kid is hurt, Alan

671
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 6: is hurt. Darrence Armstrong is making any difference. Number ninety

672
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 6: two familiar. Yeah, Dante Fowlers has eight point five sacks,

673
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 6: and I'm pronouncing his right. Kurt Louvie, Frankie Louver. Frankie

674
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 6: Louver has seven sacks. They got the ability to make plays,

675
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 6: and they have the people in place to stop the

676
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 6: run if they choose to. They're not giving up much

677
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 6: in the past because teams are gashing them. But in

678
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 6: these two losses, what I've noticed and in this. I

679
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 6: don't know if we had a personnel to do it.

680
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 6: In fact, I don't want to. I don't know if

681
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 6: we had a personnel to do this. What's what's so funny.

682
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 6: I'm trying to keep it as clean as possible. I

683
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 6: want to show to continue to rank number one. I

684
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 6: don't want us off there. Sometime Philly Pittsburgh rushed forty

685
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 6: three times for one hundred and forty yards three point

686
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 6: three average one TV time of possession for them Pittsburgh

687
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 6: was thirty six minutes. They wore these boys down. Philadelphia

688
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 6: said not to be outdone. We'll do it one better.

689
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 6: Far as the yardage and the percentage carriage, they had

690
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 6: forty carries for two hundred and twenty eight yards five

691
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 6: point seven three tds thirty nine long, and they controlled

692
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 6: the ball thirty three minutes. If we gonna have a chance,

693
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 6: we cannot throw the ball. If we're gonna have a chance,

694
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 6: it's gonna be because we tried to accomplish the run,

695
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 6: and we did it regardless of what common sense says,

696
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 6: you're not gonna throw the ball on these guys. They

697
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 6: gonna pass rush you, and they're getting this kid. I

698
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 6: don't want to forget him. Number eleven, Jeremy Chin. This

699
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 6: dude is huge when he comes up to the line

700
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 6: of scrimmage. When he comes up to the line of scrimmage,

701
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 6: you can't tell him between him and number four, our

702
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 6: brother Frankie. He's six pounds and he looked him. Google

703
00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 6: him up the hardcore. But what what hurts you is

704
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 6: you see these guys. Uh, every now and then, all

705
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 6: four of their down lineman, all four of their defensive

706
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 6: tackles play, all four of them play, so they got

707
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 6: a nice rotation. But the thing about it, you see

708
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 6: them every now and then leak off of a block

709
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 6: and make a play for a loss, and then they'll

710
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 6: go four or five play, but they just get blow

711
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 6: out off the ball. So there's no consistency for for

712
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 6: for for us defending the run. Uh, they're not a

713
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 6: great pass rushing team, but they'll mix you up. They'll

714
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 6: they'll give you just enough to mix you up. They have.

715
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Speaker 6: It's just I don't think they're playing as good as

716
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 6: what they should. Not just my belief, but who knows,

717
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 6: We'll see after this week. Damn six, he is a

718
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 6: he is a man, full grown just but I know

719
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 6: you got a little more to add to that.

720
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Speaker 5: I think everything that you said was spot on, and

721
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 5: I think sometimes Nate does this on purpose, like he

722
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 5: gets out the gate and everything that you said was factual.

723
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 5: Everything that you said was factual. But then you leave

724
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 5: it to me to have to be the voice of.

725
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 6: Reason, right, right, You leave.

726
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 5: It to me that have to be the guy who

727
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 5: now has to spew, has to spew the truth that

728
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 5: some people may not want to hear. You say that

729
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 5: that the Pittsburgh Steelers rushed forty.

730
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 6: Four times, forty three times, forty.

731
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Speaker 5: Three times, yes, and the Philadelphia Eagles rushed forty times.

732
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Speaker 10: Yes.

733
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Speaker 5: I don't think this is quick math. I don't think

734
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 5: the Cowboys running back group has forty carries in the last.

735
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 4: Four I was going to say the two the thing

736
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 4: that those two teams have is they both have really

737
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 4: good one to two running backs, yes.

738
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 5: And again a blues math in the last four games.

739
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 5: And if they do, it's not much more than forty four.

740
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 11: Right.

741
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Speaker 5: The second thing is hate to be the bearer of

742
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 5: bad news. We're not the bear of bad news. You

743
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 5: are the voice reason, the voice of reason.

744
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 7: Be positive on this win.

745
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 5: Philadelphia has one of the best offensive lines in football,

746
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 5: and even I watched that Philadelphia game as well, because

747
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 5: they were getting after Jaalen Hurts when they dropped back

748
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 5: to pass. Yes, yes, so they lean more on the run.

749
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh has a decent offensive line.

750
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 6: Did you know we have?

751
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 5: I mean, you're you're a three times Footbowl champions, six

752
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 5: times offensive lineman.

753
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 6: You do know that. We don't. We don't have that,

754
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 6: and not yet. We're building in twenty twenty six.

755
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 4: And let's not talk about the injuries right now.

756
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 5: That Zach Martin. We don't know what Zach Martin's going

757
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 5: to be. We don't know what Tyler Smith is going

758
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 5: to be. We know what Steel has been, we know

759
00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 5: what guidance has been.

760
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 6: You know. And BB.

761
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 5: I think sometimes BB just his name doesn't get brought

762
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 5: up sometimes because everything else around him is worse and

763
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 5: he ain't playing that well. It's just that he ain't

764
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 5: playing as bad as those guys.

765
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 4: Can you imagine what he's doing, what he's thinking this

766
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 4: week with those two guys heard like, he's like, I'm

767
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 4: still trying to figure this mess out of now.

768
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 5: And so when you look at what they do so

769
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 5: nature right four to three front, that's four down lineman,

770
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 5: three linebackers. I tweeted this earlier, and this might show

771
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 5: my age. I remember last year I was always say

772
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Speaker 5: if they wearing a single digit, look out, lookout for him.

773
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 5: And I remember my coach used to say this back

774
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 5: in the day. And this is probably showing my age.

775
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 5: But all of you and here older than me. So,

776
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 5: but there used to be a football saying that he's

777
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 5: a football playing Jesse. You heard that saying before. Ain't

778
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 5: talking about me, but there's an old term. They say,

779
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 5: he's a football playing Jessice.

780
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 6: At the equivalent of a basketball Jones song.

781
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 4: Remember that, Remember that song.

782
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 6: Go ahead Somehow somewhere be about him?

783
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 7: About that was about.

784
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 5: Jones on h Frankie louv football player, Jes single digit

785
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 5: football player like he when I talk about dude, it's

786
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 5: just a football player, dude, Frankie lou Like flies around.

787
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 5: Then I also said, remember remember healthy Sean Lee. Remember

788
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 5: healthy Sean Lee, his general, his just being a general,

789
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 5: the general ship that he had out there in the

790
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 5: football field. That's that's Bobby Wagner. That's that's Bobby Wae.

791
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 7: That guy has been in the league for a minute.

792
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 7: That's Bobby and nobody wanted him last year?

793
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 5: Did that he wanted he wanted to be here, Deck

794
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 5: wanted him to be here, But that.

795
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 6: He's his wishes. What was he with the Rams?

796
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 7: One year maybe one year deal and then in which Washington?

797
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 6: But the thing the thing about him now, if you

798
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 6: can take him fifteen twenty yards out, he kind of.

799
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 4: Well, here's here's Kurt stat you know, Kurt loves PFF.

800
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 4: PFF has him ranked fourth among linebackers. Tell you leads

801
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 4: a team with ninety one tackles.

802
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 5: Think of healthy Shawn Lee. That's right, think of healthy

803
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 5: Shawn Lee. The general ship of Shawn Lee.

804
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 8: Thirty four.

805
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 5: That's Bobby Wagner. That's Bobby Wagner behind this four three defense.

806
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 5: They don't play you know, you know he's a cover

807
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 5: three guy, right, so you'll see cover three, you'll see

808
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 5: cover three cloud right, So that just basically means still

809
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 5: a Cover three. But to the strong side, you're gonna

810
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 5: see you're gonna see that quarterback play a little bit different,

811
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, He's gonna play a little

812
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 5: bit somewhat into that flat that other state they will

813
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 5: come over and play his over top of him. That

814
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 5: other the other half safety will come in the middle

815
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 5: of the field, and that other corner on the back

816
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 5: side will have that third. So you'll see a Cover

817
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 5: three cloud. You'll see a Cover three buzz where the

818
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 5: safety it looks like a Cover two two high safety.

819
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 5: At the snap of the ball, one safety will move

820
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 5: to the middle of the field. That other safety now

821
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 5: to the strength wherever the tight end or the multiple

822
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 5: receivers are, will buzz down into that hook the hook area.

823
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 5: That other dB will have the third. That linebacker will

824
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 5: play the flats or the safety you'll go and play

825
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 5: the fats and the linebacker will have the hook curl.

826
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 5: So they give you different variations up there. Where it

827
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 5: looks like a Cover two, it'll look like a Cover four,

828
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 5: but it's an inverted Cover three, Cover three cloud, Cover

829
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 5: three buzz.

830
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 6: Right, So now go ahead against against Pittsburgh, they played

831
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 6: those two tight ends. Are you the wide receivers so

832
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 6: close to the what look was that when they was

833
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 6: playing all that just that too tight?

834
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 5: So it was the same thing. But you saw that

835
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 5: corner he played almost like an edge play, right he

836
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 5: played because in that Cover three cloud he got the flats.

837
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 5: So he's saying, I'm gonna play like an edge player,

838
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 5: but if anything comes out to the flat, that's me.

839
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna play up close and tights' I'm a

840
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 5: sometimes jamm down on the receiver or if the ball

841
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 5: is being run this way now offensive linemen on full

842
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 5: backs or running backs.

843
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 6: I ain't waiting back.

844
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 5: In the flats so they can come around the corner

845
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 5: and get me right now, I'm up close where I

846
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 5: can come downhill as a contained player, because he's ultimately

847
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 5: a contained player if you're playing that flat right at

848
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 5: that cornerback spot. So you when they had those tight

849
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 5: splits and there was either a bunch set or their

850
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 5: tight end was to his side, he just he just

851
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 5: kind of clamped down on that and saying, well, wherever

852
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 5: he go, I can still get to the flats, but

853
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 5: I play up close so that they don't get a chance.

854
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 5: If I see run, I tack it right now with

855
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 5: my outside hand free so that they can't get they

856
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 5: can't get leverage on me and come outside instead of

857
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 5: me playing out in the flats. And now a tackles

858
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 5: didn't come around the corner and he got the he rolling,

859
00:44:59,560 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 5: I can't.

860
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 6: I can't low cut him no more.

861
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 5: It's I'll look like Trayvon Diggs is getting out the

862
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 5: way and not wanting to make a tackle, and so

863
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 5: they do that a lot, and I know we gotta go,

864
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 5: but Trayvon Diggs had not trybont Diggs. Ceedee Lamb, let

865
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 5: me start by saying this, when.

866
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 6: Dan Quinn was here.

867
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 5: And everybody raved about dan Quinn, there was a special bond,

868
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 5: this relationship that players had with dan Quinn. If that's

869
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 5: to be true, like it was here, that that's who

870
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 5: dan Quinn is, right, So I would only expect that

871
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 5: he's carried that same type of situation over to Washington.

872
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 5: He's basically turned that program around in less than a year.

873
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 5: So those guys are ready to run through the wall

874
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 5: for him right the team, the defense. Ceedee Lamb had

875
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 5: a common He says, teams want to embarrass us if

876
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 5: you do not think Washington right now, who has been

877
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Speaker 5: the or Matt to the Cowboys and to the Eagles

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Speaker 5: in this division for a long time, don't want a

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Speaker 5: little get back right now, and that they don't want

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Speaker 5: to run through the wall for their coach. Normally, when

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Speaker 5: we would go to Washington, it would be pro Cowboy crowd.

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Speaker 5: I don't believe that will be the case this time around.

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Speaker 6: Might be the first time ever.

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Speaker 5: I don't believe that's going to be the case this

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Speaker 5: time around. And so those guys offensively better have their

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Speaker 5: mind right because defensively, they're going to try to embarrass

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Speaker 5: you for the sake of staying in pace with division,

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Speaker 5: because they're one game behind right now Philadelphia for the

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Speaker 5: sake of this our coach now, y'all ain't want them,

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Speaker 5: so now we gonna ride for him.

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Speaker 6: And also.

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Speaker 5: Dante Fowler, Dorn's armstrong Bobby Wagner is telling those dudes like, hey,

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Speaker 5: I know what it is to not be wanting that

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Speaker 5: to go back can play that team. He gonna have

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Speaker 5: those guys jacked up, are ready to go at home

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Speaker 5: if they don't want to get embarrassed on the road

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Speaker 5: this Sunday, because this defense is is going to try

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Speaker 5: to come out and dan Quinn is and and every

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Speaker 5: day he's already an up the field type of if

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Speaker 5: you think fifty five passing tip's going to be in

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Speaker 5: your cards, they'll have six and a half sacks. They'll

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Speaker 5: have six sacks in the first half.

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Speaker 7: I can't wait to hear Jesse stat of the week.

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Speaker 6: You missed this league? Did I missed the touchdown?

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Speaker 5: I missed half. He had like fifty yards. It was close,

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Speaker 5: It was close.

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Speaker 6: The score was on.

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Speaker 5: Point though, Yeah, yeah, it was close, thirty five to nine.

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Speaker 5: It was my score. Oh the game was thirty four

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Speaker 5: to ten.

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Speaker 8: Nice.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yess. Listen to Jesse here, get your picks in

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Speaker 6: and for entertainment purposes only the voice of reason for

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Speaker 6: the reason.

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Speaker 4: All right, fellas good stuff. We'll talk Cowboys defense tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Washington offense. I got some questions about.

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Speaker 6: This Washington offense. So I'm glad.

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Speaker 4: I got a couple of players in the Nate Newton's

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Speaker 4: Fantasy football League that are playing for me this week.

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Speaker 6: I need to know about I know how you like

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Speaker 6: fantasy football.

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Speaker 4: Tell them what you what you always say about fantasy football.

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Speaker 4: They play real football, right, Chris, thanks for keeping us

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Speaker 4: on the air. Jazz and Josh, thanks for keeping them company.

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Speaker 4: We'll be back tomorrow. Hang with the boys, we out.

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