1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal bitch. New Year's Eve will 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: be so awesome as all so much your jerseys incombus 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: cause it's way off time. Welcome back to these solid 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: verbal boys and girls. 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: My name is Ty Hildebrandt. That fine gentleman over there, 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: the one the only still let the music play a 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: little bit, the incomparable Dan Rubinstein, sir, it's playoff time, baby, 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: How are you? 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm great, I'm so good. Is that old lang sign? 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: If I pronounced that correctly? Is that the name of 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: the I don't know how you say it. 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 2: This is that commercial they did way back when, when 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: they remember when, when Bill Hancock was trying to tell 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: us that it was going to be a new tradition 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: in college football playing. 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: The games on New Year's Eve. 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: It's long been stuck in my craw that they're still 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: doing stupid thing. But I guess now that I'm an 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: old it doesn't matter so much that they're on New 20 00:00:58,760 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: Year's Eve. 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: I have something to watch, all uh it does. It 22 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: doesn't bother me as much. Were you were you planning 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: on going out and getting yourself a little prefixed little 24 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: spinach artichoke dip shrimp cocktail no, okay. 25 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: Now this year, we're going to have some folks over here, 26 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: some family that will ring in the New Year with us, 27 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: and I will probably be quarantined off in a in 28 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 2: a separate room watching you know, both of these two 29 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: playoff games for the duration. 30 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: Of the evening, hopefully eating something good. Oh yeah, also 31 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: buco or something no time great, We'll figure the play 32 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: situation out. Yeah. So look, it is playoff time. 33 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: This is going to be the show on which we 34 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: preview not just the playoffs, but the entire New Year 35 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: sticks and then I guess three other games that we 36 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: didn't mention in the preview we did earlier this week, 37 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: this episode, all of our episodes, you know, the deal 38 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: driven by our good friends over at Geico. If you 39 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: will be in the LA area, now, this is the 40 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: moment in time where we start talking about which teams 41 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: might advance to LA, which teams might be out there 42 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: with us over the weekend of January the seventh, when 43 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: we're doing our live show at the Troubadour Soliverblelive dot 44 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: com if you want to get tickets. So, if you're 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: going to be in the area, whether as a fan, 46 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: maybe you live there, maybe you're passing through. Maybe you're 47 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: walking what's the trail out there, the Pacific Trail. 48 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: Well, there's Pacific Coast Highway. But yeah, there's the El Camino. Yeah, 49 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: maybe you're searching for the lost City of Gold. 50 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: I don't know whatever it is you're doing if you're 51 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: going to be in the West Coast coming out to 52 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: the Troubadoor. January the seventh Soliverablelive dot Com as we 53 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: said time and again, could be our last live show, 54 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: not just in LA. 55 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: But ever never know it's true. Soliverblelive dot com is 56 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: we Also, by the way, we have a special We 57 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: did a like in my parents hot tub jacuzzie outside 58 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: in their backyard. We recorded a special episode way way 59 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: back when with a couple of guests. We are doing 60 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: not that, but we have a special stunt podcast recording. 61 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: The wheels are turning. Hint, hint, We've got some guests 62 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: lined up for a very odd and fun podcast event. 63 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: How about that podcast event in LA ahead of the 64 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: National Championship game. Anything I would say would give away 65 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: the game. 66 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: Okay, so I won't say anything more, but I will say, yes, 67 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: the wheels are turning and it is very ambitious project 68 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: that we have that you came up with. I did 69 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: just decided that we were gonna do. I'm cool with it. 70 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: Like I'm not shouting it down or anything. I'm into it. 71 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: You know, I'm into it. And once folks here what 72 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: this is, you'll understand why I'm into it. 73 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. But yeah, we're gonna have a present challenge. 74 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: Logistical challenges for sure, serious logistical challenges. Yeah, in the way, 75 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: and we'll get into the bowl games here in about 76 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: thirty seconds. In the way that when you go on 77 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: online and you see the video of Tom Cruise saying, 78 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: not only am I doing my own stunts, but we 79 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: are going to do the most ridiculous, most dangerous stunts 80 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: ever conceived for Mission Impossible fifteen. 81 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 82 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen the video video Tom 83 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: Cruise practicing his base jumping. 84 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: I can't imagine what the insurance is, cannot erect fathom 85 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: what that must be. 86 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: But continue. This is how I view the most ambitious, 87 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: pied college football podcasting event that has ever been constructed 88 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: or conceived that we are going to try to pull 89 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: off in LA. There is definitely a slight possibility of death. 90 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: I'd say, oh yeah, I think it's on the table. Yeah, 91 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: it is on the table. Yeah. Okay, we'll pre record 92 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: an announcement of our demise that either Kate or Jody 93 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: can put on the feed. Should that happen. 94 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: Well, welcome back in Earlier this week, we previewed I 95 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: don't know, sixteen Bowl games, seventeen. 96 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: Whatever it was. 97 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: There was a lot of them, and things start to 98 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: ratchet up as we get towards the latter half, not 99 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: just of the week, but of the calendar year twenty 100 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: twenty two. We've got nine games that we're going to 101 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: discuss today, as I said at the very very top, 102 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: the New Year's six. We've got three other ones as well. 103 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: Go back and listen to our confidence preview that we 104 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 2: did a couple of weeks ago, where we talked we 105 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 2: did a really quick zoom through as we talked through 106 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: all of these games and which teams we were most 107 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: confident in why we were picking them. This not only 108 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: gives us a chance to take a deeper look at 109 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: some of the matchups that we find interesting, but it 110 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: also gives us an opportunity more importantly to change our minds. Yeah, 111 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: as it did in the last show with respect to 112 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 2: the Texas tech Ole miss game right. Sometimes you see something, 113 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: sometimes you feel differently after the fact, and this gives 114 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: us that lifeline if we desire that opportunity to go 115 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: back in and change something. I don't know if I am, 116 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 2: but I feel like I have more concrete views on 117 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: the games now that I did when we did the 118 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: zoom through, like just in taking a deeper look at 119 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: information off times, as you know, throughout the course of 120 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: the season. Sometimes it's like, well, the more I look 121 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: at this, the less confident I feel. The more I 122 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: looked at this, the more confident I felt on at 123 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: least like eight of the nine games that we're going 124 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 2: to discuss. 125 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also because we have a better idea 126 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: of who's going to be playing in these games, you know, 127 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: short of you know, some Tennessee receivers who are incredibly 128 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: crucial and their quarterback who at one point may have 129 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: been the best player in the country. We sort of 130 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: have an idea what Georgie's offense is going to look like, 131 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: when Michigan's defense is going to look like. Because we 132 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: don't have opt outs, we don't have transfers. When we 133 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: are seeing games of this magnitude I shouldn't say that 134 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: across the board, but generally speaking, we have a better 135 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: idea of who's going to be playing, what the health is, 136 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: and what they look like in these huge games. Whereas look, 137 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: if we're talking about the Cure Bowl or the Chamellea Bowl, 138 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: you know there's just going to be a ton of 139 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: chaos and variables involved. But I think you're right. With 140 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: these types of games, there is more solid ground. It seems. 141 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: The bulge with the bulls is here. All the Teria, Pinstream, 142 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: Texas Holiday Camping Wold Cotton, first Responders, Music City for 143 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: Books and Orange. 144 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: Pull that fog horn. Baby, the bull barge has arrived 145 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:16,119 Speaker 1: and poured again. 146 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: Old sound. Don't even listen to what bowls we called 147 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: out in that sound. We just like the sound. We're 148 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: gonna keep it forever. 149 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: We could just make a new one, can we. 150 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: We could probably add in new bowl sounds there. Yeah, 151 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: I just wouldn't want to upset. 152 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: The integrity of the original because it's perfect. I love that. Yeah. 153 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not the Camping World Bowl anymore, but 154 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: I think they do play a Camping World stadium, so 155 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: there is that holdover. Oh wait, we're gonna talk about 156 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: the cheese at Citrus Bowl. I believe they play that 157 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: at Camping World Stadium, right, Yeah, yeah, it's the cheese 158 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: at Bawl. Now, So look, let's just dive right in. 159 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Capitol and Orange Bowl. Let's do it. 160 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: Number six Tennessee, Number seven Clemson. Clemson favored by six points. 161 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: They play this one on the evening of December the thirtieth, Yes, 162 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: eight pm on ESPN. Tennessee will be without both Jalen 163 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: Hyatt and Cedric Tillman. Neither guy is playing. 164 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: Also, Hendon Hooker, you may have heard out for the 165 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: year due to injury. That means this is going to 166 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: be a Joe Milton game. Whatever that means to you, 167 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: we can talk about that momentarily. On the Clemson side, 168 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: it's going to be cad Clubnick because DJU is in 169 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: the process of transferring his name as in the portal. 170 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: They're also going to be without their defensive end Miles Murphy, 171 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: linebacker Trenton Simpson. Trenton Simpson. It's important to note reinjured 172 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: as ankle. He hasn't been seen at a Bowl practice 173 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: as of yet. Brian Brazee states that he plans to 174 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: play in this the big defensive linemen for Clemson. So 175 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: this is an interesting case here. You know, it's it's 176 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: a Tennessee team that's a shell of its former self. 177 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: Former being in like October, it is going to be 178 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: a different cast of characters, especially on the offensive side 179 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: for the volunteers. And that leads to the question of 180 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: actually that leads to the point spread of Clemson minus six. 181 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: I think that's how you get there. There are obvious 182 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 2: questions about how is Tennessee scoring points? What will look 183 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: like is they try to move the ball. Clemson is 184 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 2: still a pretty good defense. They might not be quite 185 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: as good as we thought preseason, but it's still pretty 186 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: good unit. They still got Brian Bersey up front. They 187 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: should still offer some real challenge for this Tennessee offense 188 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: in whatever form it takes. So I'm on the Clemson 189 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: side here. I said that during our bowl preview, our 190 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: bowl confidence preview in terms of the point spread. I'm 191 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: curious to get your thoughts on this one because this 192 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: is probably one of the games with respect to the 193 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: spread that I'm least confident in. But I still feel 194 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: pretty good about Clemson. 195 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tennessee also without their offensive coordinator Alex Golesh who 196 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: took the USF job the head coaching job. So I 197 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: don't think it's Josh Heipel's offense obviously, so I don't 198 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: know if that makes or breaks the game, but certainly 199 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: a valuable piece for a record breaking Tennessee offense. How 200 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: do I feel about this game? I feel that both 201 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: of these teams kind of no matter what happens, should 202 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: be pretty pumped about moving forward. Obviously, Clemson with having 203 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: their quarterback of the future and Tennessee with having their 204 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: head coach of the future, which who could say that 205 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: right their offense they've recruited, well, they have their quarterback obviously, 206 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: a Nico Yama Leva coming in and I don't know 207 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: if he's starting next year or going to be worked 208 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: in whatever the plan is at quarterback moving forward. But 209 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: the future seems to be especially bright for both these 210 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: programs unless somebody gets just destroyed and something is revealed 211 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: to be an ongoing weakness. You know, these programs are 212 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: both in great shape. I favorite Clemson here because of 213 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: club Nick, because of the defense's ability most of the year. 214 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: Now they the secondary head struggles. You know, you go 215 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: back to the middle chunk of the year, but they improved. 216 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm in on Clemson for this one for the reason 217 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: of the last time we saw them. They were especially 218 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: impressive against against North Carolina and Tennessee against the pass 219 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: and defensively, the combination of just being beat up, not 220 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: having their act fully together all year long. I just 221 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: favor Clemson with the the indescribable momentum of the moment. 222 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, Tennessee could well win this game 223 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: because this year's Clemson. Speaking of Clemson's defense, it was 224 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: kind of a shell of its former self from yesteryear 225 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: when the defense was a little bit more of a 226 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: shut down unit. Still very good, don't get me wrong, 227 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: but Tennessee's offense operating at full capacity, you could you 228 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: could imagine a world of which they beat Clemson. I 229 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: don't think that's a hard thing to come up with 230 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: at all, But the combination of the missing piece for Tennessee, 231 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: it just makes it hard to justify. I do think 232 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: they'll be able to Clemson will be able to move 233 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: the ball on Tennessee because you know, teams have done 234 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: that all season long as well, So it's not like 235 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: Clemson's going to be limited on the offensive side. I 236 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: think they'll put in a solid game. The over under 237 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: is sixty three and a half points kind of feels 238 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: like a game to me that could go way under 239 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: and be sure boring. The meets the eye for obvious 240 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: reasons on the Tennessee side, with having a new cast 241 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: of characters run the offense. But even on the Clemson side, 242 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 2: I mean, there were aspects of the Tennessee defense, especially 243 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: the rush defense that we're appealing this year is better 244 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: than expected, so you know, you could you can imagine 245 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: a world in which Clemson tries to run, tries not 246 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: to put too much pressure on kid clubnick early. They 247 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: can't do it. It depresses the score in the underhits. That's 248 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: that's sort of my prediction for this game. Outside of 249 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: Clemson minus seven or six, whatever it is, I think 250 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: the under sixty three and a half is kind of appealing. 251 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, my counter to that of there, if it 252 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: being point heavy is Joe Milton can bombit downfield. I 253 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: don't think Joe Mellens as good as hend and Hooker. 254 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: I don't think Joe Milton is as good with this 255 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: crop of receivers as he would have been with a 256 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: healthy Jalen Wyatt and Cedria Tillman. No, definitely not. Bru 257 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: McCoy is really good. Like, there are still guys on 258 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: this Tennessee offense that we're not the headliners, but are 259 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: playing in a system that absolutely takes advantage of their 260 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,479 Speaker 1: strengths and their speed and their ability to get downfield, 261 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: and the offensive line we saw play consistently well it 262 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: seemed in terms of improving year over year for Tennessee. 263 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: So I still think that, like the Tennessee offensive experience 264 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: right now is still more difficult than what North Carolina 265 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: was putting on the field at the end of the year, 266 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: and now Tennessee with time with smart offensive minds, Like, 267 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm not fully out on Tennessee's ability to score and 268 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: or win this game. Yeah, no, I'm not. I'm not it. 269 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: My first got instinct upon seeing this matchup and then 270 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: going in and digging in was that I could see 271 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: this being under sixty three. That being said, under sixty 272 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: three could still mean a lot of points in a 273 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 2: really good game. Sure so, And I hope that's what 274 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: we get here. I hope it's not boring and you know, 275 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: turnover late or anything like that. But definitely in the 276 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: Tennessee side some questions. 277 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: And definitely, by the way, Tennessee better against the run 278 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: than North Carolina was than a number of these teams. 279 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: So I don't know if will Shipley is going to 280 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: be the star that I mean, he clearly is, but 281 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: Tennessee does play the run a little bit better than 282 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: you know. Their secondary was a lot more more leaky 283 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: because of the chances that Tennessee takes on defense. That's 284 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: what their defense is built around, is the ability to 285 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: be aggressive. And if it works, it works. If it doesn't, well, 286 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: it could get bad. I like Clemson here. I do 287 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: like Clemson because I think they're at this moment the 288 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: way their roster is constructed still a little bit more complete. 289 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: Yes, Newazy will be so watching college when. 290 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: We dan go to New Year's freaking Eve. Baby, let's 291 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: do it. What do you do in New Year's Eve? 292 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: Let's see I get home by home, I mean to 293 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: California on the thirtieth, So thirty first, I'll just be 294 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: around working. Maybe we'll do some live streams, know something 295 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: we could probably if we wanted to do it. I'm 296 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: making a little studio in my middle brothers old bedroom. 297 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: So no, no, plans. I'll hope to eat something good 298 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: and watch a ton of football like I do every year. 299 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: All right, Well, stay tuned to social media, stay tuned 300 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: to you know, anywhere you can find the soliverbal I'm 301 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: sure we'll send something out of the email as well 302 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: if we decide to do a live thing. But I 303 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: believe we've done that in the past and it's been 304 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: a lot of fun, so maybe we'll resurrect so fun 305 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: for the playoff and for the championship too. 306 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: You know. Also, I'm on West Coast time, ty, so 307 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: you tell me nothing about early vibes. 308 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: And football for me, scoundrel. You scale, Let's go to 309 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: the trans Perfect Music City Bowl before we get to 310 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: the Big Guns. It's Perfect Dan. We've talked about this before. 311 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: It's a company that does translations. 312 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: Oh. 313 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: The Iowa Kentucky game translates to Jesus take the Wheel. 314 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: The over under for this game is thirty one points 315 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: h thirty one points. Iowa was favored by two. They 316 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: play this one in Nashville again earlier in the day 317 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: noon Eastern on New Year's Eve. Just to recap where 318 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: things stand for both these teams. On Iowa's end, Spencer 319 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: Peatris has hurt Alex Badiaz transferring, which means that their 320 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: third string quarterback with no pass attempts will likely get 321 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: the start. They've got another receiver in Arlen Bruce, who 322 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: was third on the team in targets, who is transferring. 323 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: It sounds like Samuel Porter. 324 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: Their tight end is going to be back in time 325 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: for the Bowl, which is at least a target something 326 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: that they can use in the offensive game plan to 327 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: try and score points on Kentucky. On the Kentucky end, 328 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: Will Levis and Christopher Rodriguez declared for the NFL. They 329 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 2: opted out Cavasier Smoke is also in the transfer portal. 330 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: Kentucky's in an odd spot. Deston Wade You ever hear 331 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 2: of him? 332 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: I know the name, but he is starting at quarterback. 333 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: I have no idea who Destin Wade is. He's getting 334 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 2: the start at quarterback for Kentucky. Okay, maybe I've heard 335 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: the name because you mentioned it, But yeah, I've heard 336 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: of Destin Florida and Dwayne Wade, but never Destined Wade. Also, 337 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: the fourth string running back Jatan McClain, will get the 338 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 2: start for Kentucky. Kentucky again had a hard time running 339 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: the football this year pretty much the full year through, 340 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: so maybe mister McClain can do a little bit better. 341 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: That's part of why they fire their offensive coordinator after 342 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: the Bulls back the regular season before the Bulls so 343 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: oh and on top of it all, Mark Stoop says 344 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 2: he still doesn't know who's calling plays in the bowl game. 345 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: So sure, Iowa favored by two and a half. Nobody's 346 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: crazy about Iowa. Obviously, we're not going to be crazy 347 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: about Kentucky this This matchup kind of looks like a 348 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 2: slow motion car crash, not just because of the offensive 349 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: woes on the Iowa side, but because of all the 350 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 2: transfers now on the Kentucky end as well. 351 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: Where are you at with this game? Well, if the 352 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: best thing in this game is the Iowa defense, and 353 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a big believer in the nobody believes 354 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: in him eleventh string quarterback situation that I guess both 355 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: teams are kind of dealing with. I'm one with the 356 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: Hawkeyes here, I'm will with the Hawkeyes out of nowhere. 357 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: If you remember, they haven't fielded good offenses in quite 358 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: some time, but like out of nowhere, they were amazing 359 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: against was a USC and the Holiday Bowl now starting quarterback, 360 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: and I think Ism was outside and had an enormous 361 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: game there, So the talent level was certainly in a 362 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: better place. I'm going Iowa, and I'm going Iowa confidently confident, Yes, 363 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, not really that confident, probably like a three. 364 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: I am changing my picks at the moment. Oh I am, 365 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 2: I am changing my bad. I've only got three confidence 366 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: points on this one as well. I'm changing my pick 367 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 2: to Iowa for this matchup Kentucky. 368 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: Again. 369 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: I just said this a moment ago, but I keep 370 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: coming back to it. Kentucky had problems on offense before 371 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: all this, before all their best guys opted out. That's 372 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: why they fired the offensive coordinator. So if they're gonna 373 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 2: bolt this thing together, they're gonna put an offense together 374 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 2: with the guys that are left. I don't think I 375 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: like their chances against a really good Iowa defense. As 376 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: you said, it still is a really good Iowa defense. 377 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: It might not be pretty, this might be a really 378 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: ugly game in terms of offense, but there is a 379 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: sick o quality to this that cannot be ignored. That 380 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: almost has been intrigued enough to watch this game. I 381 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: probably won't. 382 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: If you are in Iowa or Kentucky. Family the games. 383 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: And this is Nashville, Yes, Nissan Stadium in Nashville. Correct. 384 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: Folk is the pizza restaurant or city house. I've been 385 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: a city house. It was actually really really good. Folk 386 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: or city House. Excuse me. I looked at the football 387 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: stuff today. I didn't look at the pizza stuff as 388 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: much as I probably should have. But it is Nashville, Folk, Pizza, Nashville. 389 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: That's what looks really good to me. Not this game though. 390 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: Oh no, the game looks terrible, but I'm gonna watch 391 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: the hell out of it. I think it's Bruno in 392 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: Orlando for the previous game, right, I have no idea. 393 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 1: I've never been in any of these places. I'm no, No, 394 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: we did. It was the Orange Bowl that's in Miami. Ty. 395 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: You gotta wrangle me here, you gotta rain me in. Dan, 396 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: Let's go to the Sugar Bowl. Do you have Rex 397 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: for New Orleans? Yes, Pizza Delicious. I mentioned it for 398 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: I think a previous New Orleans game, All Stage Sugar Bowl. 399 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: Alabama minus six and a half against Kansas State. Yeah. 400 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: The points spread in this game shifted almost ten points 401 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: in favor of Alabama after it became known that. 402 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: Both Bryce Young and Will Anderson were going to play. 403 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 2: Now we had talked about this on the show, wondering 404 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: assuming that they wouldn't play, Oh, Contraer, kind of a 405 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: big deal, kind of a big deal to get these 406 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: two guys out there for Alabama, two of their best players. 407 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: They will be without Jojo Earl and Treyshawn Holding. Those 408 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 2: guys are transferring Javian Cohen, who is their left guard. 409 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: He is also in the portal. 410 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: But buy and large, it's the full strength Alabama, which 411 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: is awesome because it's also a full strength Kansas State 412 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: for the most part. So a lot of folks out 413 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: there complaining. 414 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: I've seen it. 415 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 2: They've emailed us, They've tweeted at us. They've just been 416 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: talking amongst themselves about how the Bulls are meaningless now 417 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: and it's it's not even fun to watch. That may 418 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: be true for a lot of these games. If that's 419 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: something that irks you, ask Siria to sit a reminder 420 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: for this game, because this is one that will will 421 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: be meaningful. You're gonna get two teams, two good teams 422 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: at full strength. In our confidence preview, I pick case 423 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 2: State outright, but with two confidence points obviously because I'm 424 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 2: picking hard overhead there. Alabama's got more talent, especially now 425 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: with both Bryce Young and Will Anderson playing. I do wonder, though, 426 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 2: if they care about this game, though you know, it 427 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: doesn't quite fit my formula, my care or formula, but 428 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: it is something that you mentioned a few shows ago. 429 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: Alabama in a spot a game that otherwise is pretty 430 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: meaningless postseason. There have been hiccups in the past during 431 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: the saving Ara. 432 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: If you're an Alabama person, it's meaningless, to be clear, 433 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: not taking the playoff. That's the level to which Alabama 434 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: has ascended in the sport. Simply being good and not 435 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: great consistently, especially away from home, is seen as a failure, 436 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: which is wild and also crazy impressive. So do they care? Like, 437 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: how much did they care? 438 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 3: Here? 439 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: They're favored by six and a half points. Do you 440 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 2: think Bama cares enough to win this game by a touchdown? 441 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think they care, and I think especially because 442 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: it's the last hurrah of a few major guys for Alabama, 443 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: I think they're going to care. I don't think they're 444 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: gonna care as much as kansastate, and this is one 445 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: of the absolute biggest Kansas State games ever, if not 446 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: the biggest one in modern k State history. I think 447 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: they're going to travel extremely well, They're going to be 448 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: extremely up for this game. There's certainly a talent disparity, 449 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: but this also isn't an Alabama team that has Do 450 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: they do anything especially great? No, Like Bryce Young improvises 451 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: better than anybody else in the country. But is their 452 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: passing game full on great? Is their offensive or defensive 453 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: lines in their totalities great? 454 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 3: No? 455 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: Is their secondary great? 456 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 3: No? 457 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: It is not, and so is their running back It's not. 458 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: And so they do everything very very well most of 459 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: the time. Secondary against Tennessee not necessarily, but they're not 460 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: a team that does any one thing well enough to 461 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: dominate teams good teams for four straight quarters. And so 462 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: that's what worries me about how having a ton of 463 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: confidence in Alabama. I'm going k State here, and I 464 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: think it's more heart than head because my head says 465 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: it's Alabama because they's just the talent disparity is what 466 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: it is. And over the course of four quarters, maybe 467 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: it's a you know, a touchdown game for two and 468 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: a half three quarters or something like that, But then 469 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: things open up with a pick six to kool Aid 470 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: McKinstry or something, and that, to me is the worry 471 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: from my heart. But I like Will Howard. I like 472 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: Deuce Vaughan getting loose against this Alabama front that hasn't 473 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: been amazing against the run all year long. I like 474 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: Malik Knowles and Philip Brooks as guys who can at 475 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: least make plays for chunks of this game. I like 476 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: King Felix on the defensive line. Like I just think 477 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: there are enough pieces for k State to justify my 478 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: my heart full led pick. So I'm going k State 479 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: to cover in this game just because there's no accounting 480 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: tie for heart so I'm going KSE State well. 481 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: And also the facto national championship de fact national Your point, right, 482 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 2: this is a big deal for k State. Chris Climbing, 483 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: by the way, maybe not at the power five level, 484 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: has sort of known what to do in the postseason. 485 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: Won four national championships when he was with North Dakota State, 486 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 2: so he's been big in the postseason before. He knows 487 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: how to get a team up for a big game. 488 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: And I think to your point, K State will. 489 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: Be fired up. I think they will. 490 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 2: There's no doubt to me that this game will mean 491 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: more to them than it will Alabama. So I'm going 492 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 2: to take KSE State with the points. I'm going to 493 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: stick with my pick of k State to win outright, 494 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 2: with only two confidence points. The important qualifier here, the 495 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: important disclaimer caveat whatever, is that I am also picking 496 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: a little bit more hard overhead. You know, like it's 497 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 2: hard to ignore the Alabama talent. We know it's there, 498 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: but we have seen weird hiccups on the Alabama side 499 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: when the game does not mean as much as say 500 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: a playoff game or national championship. 501 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: So it's different Alabama squads, right, It's different coordinators, different quarterbacks, right, 502 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: you're talking about, yes, whether it's a Blake Sims, you know, 503 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: whether it's I guess not him or Jake Cooker, but 504 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: different quarterbacks where you're just like, I don't know if 505 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: they were super into the Trevor Knight Oklahoma team as 506 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: much as they could have been. And so we have 507 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: those moments and we're just here to pick and figure 508 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: out who cares? Who your acronym, Yeah, who cares? All right? 509 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: So we are both going with KSE data I guess, 510 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: plus the we are we have been big on the 511 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: Big Twelve since day one. It's not ending now, it 512 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: might end for the TCU Michigan matchup. We'll see. Well, 513 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: it's funny you should say that. Let's go to the 514 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: first of two College Football Playoffs semi finals, this one 515 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: at the Verbo Fiesta Bowl four pm. New Year's Eve, Glendale, Arizona. 516 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: It is Michigan number two team in the land minus 517 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: seven and a half points, squaring off against TCU. Just 518 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: to re cap, Michigan without Blake Quorum done for the 519 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: season with a knee injury. They had some some injury 520 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: concerns with respect to Mike Morris. 521 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: They're ed rusher as well as the abi Oki. Have 522 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: not seen what their status will be for this game. 523 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: They've had some time to heal here. I would presume 524 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 2: both will be full goes, but I don't know that 525 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: for certain, so I'm just thrown that out there. TCU, 526 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: for what it's worth, appears to be at full strength 527 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: of this game, which is awesome. So my main issue 528 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 2: with TCU in this game is that they're kind of 529 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: like diet Ohio State on offense, i e. 530 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: They play, they play somewhat. 531 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: Similarly with a lot less talent. They've got an experience line, 532 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: but you can get pressure pressure on Max dugg In. 533 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to generate big plays against 534 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: Michigan the way they did against a big twelve schedule. 535 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: Quentin Johnson will probably win some fifty fifty balls because 536 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 2: he's big and tall and that's what he's good at. 537 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 2: And I think Max Duggan can make an impact with 538 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 2: his legs. I have no doubt about that. But sure, 539 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 2: I feel like we've seen this show a few times 540 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: now with the Michigan defense going up against a similar 541 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: enough opponent and they've been able to shut him down. 542 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 2: And then we could talk about the Michigan offense and 543 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 2: what I think they could do to the TCU defense 544 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: in a little bit, but it kind of starts and 545 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: ends there for me with TCU. TCU has lived by 546 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 2: the big play and died by the big play all 547 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: season long, and it does not feel like they'll be 548 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 2: able to sustain enough against a really good Michigan defense 549 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: to build up enough points to get enough possession in 550 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: order to win this game outright. So at first blush, 551 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: I'm on Michigan here pretty confidently. 552 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 553 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: The other thing to me, there's a number of matchups 554 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: in this one that are interesting to me. Michigan has 555 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: had their struggles in the red zone. TCU has not 556 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 1: that the TCU defense has not been especially successful in 557 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: the red zone, and they've actually had a amount of 558 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: struggles in the red zone that they're not able to 559 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: finish drives defensively. The other worry for me. You talk 560 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: about Michigan's health upfront, but that front seven or eight 561 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: or six or whatever they're playing, whatever look they're giving you, 562 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: I think is going to overwhelm TCU's offensive line. Max 563 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: Duggan has been great in part because he's had to 564 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: do so much in terms of extending plays and running 565 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: or quickly finding somebody in the past game. And what 566 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: we saw, especially against Texas, right against a defensive line 567 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: with higher level talent. Even though the Texas defense hasn't 568 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: always been good, it was pretty good this year against 569 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: some higher level defenses. We saw it against k State. 570 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: The last time we saw TCU play with a good 571 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: defensive line is Max Duggan basically willing himself to the 572 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: finish line because of the hits he was taking, because 573 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: of how much he had to run around to make 574 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: plays that he never seems comfortable, which again speaks to 575 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: his season of greatness, that he was able to be 576 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: as successful as he was in New York. That me 577 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: against Michigan. Yes, he's a Heisman finalists, He's going pro. 578 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: All the accolades rightfully earned. This is not a playoff 579 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: caliber offensive line for TCU, and that's okay because the 580 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: season is above and beyond any TCUs fan TCU fans' 581 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: wildest dreams. But this is not an offensive line befitting 582 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: of the moment to me, and so for that reason, 583 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: if you're going to give me the combination of quarterback 584 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: and defense, Max Duggin holds up his end of the bargain. 585 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: The defense has stood up some, but I just don't 586 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: think when you have to play against Michigan on a 587 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: neutral field as Michigan, that also gets healthier. I'm going 588 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: with the defense. I'm going with a good quarterback who's 589 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: not as good as Max Duggan yet, but I think 590 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: there's more skill talent at the moment for Michigan, even 591 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: without Blake Quorum. That scares me, whereas TCUs kind of 592 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: comes and goes long stretches of guys not affecting games 593 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: Quinn Johnston on great, but I think I'm just I 594 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: can count on more right now with the Michigan defense 595 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: and the seasoning in these types of huge stage matchups. 596 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll go with the blue here. And to 597 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: the point of Max Duggan, all too often youc a 598 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: quarterback likes to run around back there extend plays with 599 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: his legs, and that that's actually part of the game plan. 600 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: In this case, I don't know if it is, because 601 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: it shows up on paper as a really high pressure 602 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: rate allowed by this offensive line. So to the point 603 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 2: of can TCU's front hold up against the Michigan front, 604 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: We've got a season's worth of data that would suggest 605 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 2: that the answer is no, strongly no, but we'll see. 606 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: You know, TCU has been defining the odds all year. 607 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: My question about the TCU defense I think needs to 608 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: be mentioned as well. We've commented on occasion about how 609 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: good their secondary has looked in spots, and you know, 610 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: they're really good. 611 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: I think they're really good. 612 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: But they don't have a good pass rush right and 613 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: their rush defense as a whole is pretty average. So 614 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: this feels like the kind of game that Michigan, that 615 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: Georgia we'll talk about Georgia next. That those types of 616 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: teams like to play in as in they will wear 617 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: you down and then midway through the third quarter pinata moment, 618 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: Pinyada moment, big run, Donovan Edwards, big pass play, like 619 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 2: these things have a way of building up over time 620 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: and then just get the energy released as Michigan as 621 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: whoever goes for like a eighty five yard score and 622 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 2: the game's over and that's how they win. So I 623 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 2: could see that kind of taking shape here. I have 624 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: Michigan thirty four to twenty one. 625 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's about right. I'm double digits with you. 626 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: Here's here's something else, and I'm going to try to 627 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: describe it accurately. I think Max Duggan has more absolutely 628 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: heinous throws in him over the course of a game. Now, 629 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: far fewer than before, but we've seen it even this year. 630 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: We're like, oh, there's the glimpse of the old Max whatever. 631 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: We're like, oh my god, what was he thinking? Why 632 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: did he let that ball go? Now? TCU can survive those, right, 633 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: Michigan could drop an interception, or he just overthrows a 634 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: ball badly enough that nobody can intercept it, or something. 635 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: But JM. McCarthy's absolutely heinous throws seem fewer and further 636 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: between than Max Duggins. And so that's that's the creep 637 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: that to me could occur in this game where you're 638 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: just like, Oh, he's gonna want that back as soon 639 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: as he releases it, and everybody watching on TV knows it, 640 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: and you're just like, oh wow. And against Michigan with 641 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: how they're able to sit on turnovers and keep your 642 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: defense on the field, with their style of play, it 643 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: seems like that could be early and backbreaking. 644 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 645 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: Okay, well again, Michigan TCU people, whichever team wins, if 646 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: you're coming to La Soliverablelive dot com, it's where you 647 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: get your tickets, Yeah, Soliverable Life. And if TCU wins, 648 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: I'll apologize to you in person. I'll give you a 649 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: big old handshake or hug or do jumpin jacks for you, 650 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 1: whatever you want me to do. Yeah, I'm just guessing here. 651 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: Let's go to the second of two college football playoff semifinals, 652 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 2: this one at the Chick fil A Peach Bowl to 653 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 2: Facto home game for Georgia, a six and a half 654 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: point favorite, squaring off against Ohio State. 655 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: They play this one at eight pm again on ESPN. 656 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: Just to recap. 657 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 2: On the Ohio State side, we got confirmation a couple 658 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: weeks ago now that Jackson Smith and Jigba done for 659 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: the season. Done for the season because of that hamstring 660 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: injury that he suffered way back in Week one. Has 661 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: never been right. They're not going to push it with him, 662 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: so he's done for the year. It looks like Trey 663 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 2: Henderson and Mine Williams should be good to go. I 664 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 2: haven't seen any further injury updates on them. I know 665 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 2: they were banged up down the stretch, but it would 666 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 2: obviously be a nice boon for the Buckeye offense if 667 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 2: they're able to get both those guys back in healthy. 668 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 2: On the Georgia side, I actually have some concerns about 669 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 2: this one because Lad mcconkee still is not practicing, and 670 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 2: it seemed as if there was some question as to 671 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: whether or not they'd get him back. So the last 672 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 2: report I saw said that Kirby was hoping that they 673 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 2: would have him back practicing in time for this game, 674 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 2: but haven't heard a whole lot of updates. Injured his 675 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 2: knee in that SEC title game, and I think it 676 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: is worth a discussion what the Georgia offense looks like 677 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 2: if he doesn't play, Because keep in mind everybody talks 678 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 2: about brock Bowers, start Washington too. 679 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 1: But yes, Lad. 680 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 2: McConkie had three fewer targets one less catch than brock Bowers. 681 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 2: He's been a really big part of this offense, the 682 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 2: leading wide receiver in that offense. Not having him, I 683 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 2: think is a problem. George is good enough to win 684 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 2: without him. I'm not saying if Lad McConkie's not out there, 685 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 2: Georgia loses. I'm not saying that at all. But when 686 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 2: we're looking at a point spread that's about a touchdown, 687 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 2: I'm looking at this and I'm saying, Okay, well, this 688 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 2: is a team that we know like to grinded out, 689 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: we know they like to play slowly. We've seen them 690 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 2: in some close games before, we've seen the offense just 691 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 2: in key moments here and there Sputter a little bit 692 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: more than expected to be down Lad mcconkee. That kind 693 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 2: of changes my mind a little bit. Here I was 694 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 2: still picking Georgia, But I don't know, like, am I 695 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 2: too overbearing about the McConkey thing. Where are you at 696 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 2: with that. 697 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: No, it's I think that's a huge factor because you're 698 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: right that everybody's going to key it on brock Bowers, 699 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: and look, Oregon keyd on brock Bowers. It didn't do 700 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: much in that game. They beat Organ forty nine to three. 701 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: That was the final score of that game. So Lad 702 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: McConkie is a winter wonder. He is a rare receiver 703 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: that you can count on in December and January to 704 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: no matter who you're playing, to make a big difference. 705 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: And he was able to do it against the best 706 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: teams on Georgia's schedule. I believe I've maybe he disappeared 707 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: in one of those huge games and they didn't play 708 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: that many huge games. But he's a problem. He gets 709 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: open with the ball, he's elusive, he makes people miss, 710 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: he scores touchdowns. He has a huge reason why Stetson 711 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: Bennett ended up in New York and Stetson Bennett had 712 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: the season he did and the Georgia offense while not 713 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: having the high level receivers necessarily that they've had or 714 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: the receiver production, he's that guy. He's the guy you 715 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: have to pay attention to because they use him in 716 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: a number of different ways. So whatever his health is, 717 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,919 Speaker 1: that's a big deal. Now, Jalen Carter, Is he wearing 718 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: a Georgia uniform orn Ohio State uniform? Right, It's we're 719 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: in Georgia one, and so you're afforded a certain amount 720 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: of wiggle room when you're dealing with some injury issues 721 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: on offense, when you field the defense that Georgia fields 722 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 1: and best defense in America likely, I mean, they faced 723 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: the best offense in America and fully shut him down 724 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: in Tennessee. So I'm going to give him that benefit 725 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: of the doubt. What they did to LSU in the 726 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: championship game, Yes, they absorbed some yardage, they absorbed some points, 727 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: but that game was out of hand pretty quickly. I'm 728 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: just in on Georgie. I'm just in on Georgia because 729 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: I've seen what they can do in these big moments 730 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: against big teams, and I'm still worried about Ohio State 731 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: and the issues that have plagued them all year. Offense 732 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: looks great, but the defense doesn't. Defense really comes to play. 733 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: The offense doesn't take chances. They're risk averse, they disappear 734 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: in doing the things that are working for them. They're 735 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: trying to run the ball when it's not going like 736 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: I just don't think Ohio State is fully locked in 737 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: on who Ohio State is. And if you are not 738 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: fully ready and you are not a fully realized operation 739 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: beating Georgia in Atlanta, that's what you're asking for me 740 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: to believe in. I'm just not there. I think Ohio State, 741 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: when Ryan Day is locked in, when CJ. Stroud is 742 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: locked in and not forced to make plays off platform, 743 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: they'll beat anybody. They'll absolutely beat anybody. They've got a 744 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: defensive line that is built to win playoff games. You 745 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 1: saw the high end of know JT. Tuamalo in those 746 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: big moments. Incredible player. I'm just not there with the 747 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: totality of Ohio State. And if I'm not there, it's 748 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: hard to pick against Georgia in Atlanta. So I'm going 749 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: Georgia here to cover. 750 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just to put a bow on the lad 751 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 2: McConkey stuff. Even if he's not out there, George is 752 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 2: good enough to grind it out and win. 753 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: Sure. 754 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 2: Among all of the playoff teams, Georgia, Michigan, even TCU 755 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 2: to an extent, these are teams that are very I 756 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 2: think firm, very strong in their identities on offense, but 757 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 2: the Ohio State is a little bit of a multiple 758 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 2: personality thing. Sometimes don't know what you're going to get there, 759 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 2: and I'm hopeful. I mean, they were my preseason pick 760 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 2: to win it all. I'm thrilled that they're playing this game. 761 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 2: By the way, I thought it might be for the 762 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 2: national Championship, but I'm thrilled that we get to see 763 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 2: these two teams matchups. I think it's gonna be really, 764 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 2: really fascinating. But I tend to agree with you on 765 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 2: the Georgia side here. I just think they've got a 766 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 2: really good sense of who they are. They should be 767 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 2: able to grind Ohio State down the way Michigan ground 768 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 2: Ohio State down and play a similar style of football 769 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 2: and win. I am just curious about the offense. I'm 770 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 2: very curious about the offense. So I believe the defense 771 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 2: will be good enough to contain CJ. Stroud, but there's 772 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 2: only so much a contain Ohio State. I think they'll 773 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 2: get theirs. I think this is actually a pretty close game, 774 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 2: so I'm gonna go thirty one to twenty eight. I'm 775 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 2: gonna take the points with Ohio State in favor of 776 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 2: Georgia thirty one to twenty eight here, but Ohio State 777 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 2: covers because again, as of now, it looks like mcconkey's out, 778 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 2: just a little unsure as to what that does to 779 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 2: the passing attack and how that might have been. 780 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: Totally reasonable, Yeah, totally reasonable, and uh yeah there and 781 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: there seems to be opportunity throwing at Ohio State. We 782 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: saw JJ McCarthy, who struggled for large swaths of the year, 783 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: going downfield consistently. It was a lot of shorter stuff, 784 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: more conservative, just don't mess up. Set things up for 785 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: Blake Cornwell got loose. The passing game got loose against 786 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: Ohio State deep and it made that was the difference 787 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: in the game. It was pushing Ohio State around a 788 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: little bit on the ground and then popping it over 789 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: the top to wide open guys. Even without Lad McConkey. 790 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: George's got guys, whether it's the tight ends up the 791 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: sea and whatever it is, George's got guys who can 792 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: get behind defenses. 793 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 2: Damn whichever team wins, whether it's Georgia, whether it's Ohio State. 794 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 2: If you'll be coming out to La Soliverablelive dot com. 795 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 1: Yes, and if you're an Ohio State fan. I apology, 796 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: I'll hug you, I'll shake your hand, I'll do some 797 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: jump and jacks whatever. Just guessing here, But people recommend 798 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: Antico Pizza in Atlanta. I don't think I mentioned one 799 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: for Phoenix, right, I don't think so. I always love 800 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,479 Speaker 1: Pizzaria Bianco, Pizza, Biria Bianco so so good. Orange Bowl's 801 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: played outside of Miami Old Greg's or Miami Slice for 802 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,240 Speaker 1: pizza in Miami. Bruno is an Orlando pick. Sorry about 803 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 1: that earlier. Okay, we got we got that figured out now, Yes, 804 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: some of the important stuff. Let's turn the calendar to 805 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. If you can believe it, Boo doo 806 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: doo doo wild Monday, January the second four games to 807 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: close things out. Twenty twenty three definitely seems like a 808 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: sci fi yeah year right that you're watching a movie 809 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety five where you're just like, all right, 810 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: here's something funny that's gonna be the reality in twenty 811 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 1: twenty three, and it's just like they're like, oh no, 812 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: this is real. Now. This is where we are. Continue, 813 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: this is where we are. 814 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 2: Four games here. We'll start off with the relyaquest Bowl. 815 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much analysis we really want to 816 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 2: do this game. Dan, this is Mississippi State, this is Illinois. 817 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,919 Speaker 2: I didn't even look at the points Bread. I kind 818 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 2: of don't care. The untimely passing of Mike Leach will 819 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 2: clearly be lingering over this matchup Mississippi. Missisippi State, excuse me, 820 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 2: decided that. 821 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: They wanted to play. 822 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 2: They quickly named Zach Barnett, formerly their defensive coordinator, but 823 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 2: now named him the head coach try and stabilize the program. 824 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,399 Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of state of mind they'll 825 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 2: be in. I don't know what state of mind Illinois 826 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 2: is going to be, and it's hard for them as 827 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 2: well to be part of this matchup. So I'm not 828 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 2: making a pick here. I don't I'm going to root 829 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 2: for Mississippi State, but in terms of actual football analysis, 830 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 2: it's kind of. 831 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: Hard to do. 832 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 2: I just I just hope, you know, the players, and 833 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 2: the coaches and the folks out there that are part 834 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 2: of this game were able to take some solace in 835 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,240 Speaker 2: the fact that it's being played. 836 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm openly rooting for Mississippi State because it 837 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: would be hopefully a light in what I'm sure has 838 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: been a very dark time and hopefully there's some catharsis 839 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: for the Mississippi State football community. I'm hoping for a 840 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: good football game, like I am with every game. But yeah, 841 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: Illinois down their defensive coordinator in Ryan Walters took the 842 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: Purdue job. But yeah, openly hoping for a good game 843 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: and positivity for Mississippi State. Che's it Citrus Bowl? 844 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:54,799 Speaker 3: Dan? 845 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, they play this one? This is the one 846 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: in Orlando. This is the one in Orlando right now? 847 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: You know a pizza play? Where's I think it's Bruno. 848 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: Bruno looks very, very good. We got to reassure that 849 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 1: whatever it's in Orlando, I'm positive. I'll send you a 850 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: picture of it offline. 851 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 2: Ty, if you're a Purdue fan, maybe go to Bruno 852 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 2: instead of this game. Because LSU was favored by fourteen. 853 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 2: I've got thirty five confidence points on LSU winning this 854 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,919 Speaker 2: one outright. Kai Shan Boudi coming back for twenty twenty three, 855 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 2: will play. Jayden Daniels awesome. Still did not see for 856 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,720 Speaker 2: sure if he's gonna play, but had the ankle injury. 857 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 2: If he can play, he will play. I know bj 858 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 2: Ojulari is entering the NFL Draft. I've just assumed that 859 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 2: he's not playing, though I guess I did not see that. 860 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: Maybe I should have done. 861 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 2: A little bit more research before I before I hit 862 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 2: record here. But let's assume he's not playing. I don't 863 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 2: know if it really makes all that much of a difference. 864 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 3: Dan. 865 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 2: On the Purdue side, do you know what's going on 866 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 2: the Purdue side? The coach left, the coach's brother is 867 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 2: now the interim The former great quarterback from Purdue came 868 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 2: back as an interim assistant to ease in the train transition. 869 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 1: You're talking about Robert marv Is that who you're referencing. No, 870 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm referencing Drew Brees. But is Robert marvinvolved as well? No? 871 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: I just know that you say Purdue great. You know 872 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: you got to be more specific. I got my guys. 873 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,320 Speaker 2: Too, Bob Marer, I'm not sure what he's doing on 874 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 2: January the second. Anyway, Perdue is in kind of a 875 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 2: really odd spot because of this. I remember years past 876 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 2: when Purdue was kind of a trendy Bowl pick. 877 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 1: You would like to pick Purdue, especially last year. I 878 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: crafty offense. 879 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 2: I remember I think I picked them last year. I 880 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 2: don't know if that worked out, but I don't I'm 881 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 2: not going in that direction again this year. It just 882 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 2: feels like LSU is going to be mostly at full strength. 883 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 2: They played really well down the stretch. Perdue is going 884 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 2: to be without a bunch of guys, notably their coach. 885 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 2: They've also got some transfers. 886 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm. 887 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 2: Going LSU here. I don't have a reason to think otherwise. 888 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 2: I don't know about fourteen points. It probably wouldn't. 889 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: Bet it, but I think you gotta go Tigers to win. 890 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,800 Speaker 1: They have elite confidence in my confidence bracket pool, whatever 891 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: LSU does, So I am in a weird turnaround. The 892 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,760 Speaker 1: universe has a depleted Purdue team heading into a bowl. Obviously, 893 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: we had a depleted LSU roster last year against Kansas State, 894 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 1: so I like LSU. 895 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,720 Speaker 2: Big hair final two games. Let's go to the Goodyear 896 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 2: Cotton Bowl Classic at is USC favored by three just 897 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 2: three points, mm hmm against number sixteen Tulane. They play 898 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 2: at one pm January second, at and T Stadium in Arlington, Dan, 899 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 2: you like Tulane here? 900 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: I do like Tulane here, and I still like Tulane. 901 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: I've mentioned it a couple of times de facto Super Bowl. 902 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams says he's going to play. He said his 903 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: hamstring has been improving and coming along. Well. I love 904 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams and the Caleb Williams experience, and he is 905 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: going to get his against the Greenway. But USC was 906 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 1: knocking on the door of the playoff, and so it's 907 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it's accurate to say USC doesn't care. 908 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,280 Speaker 1: They were four and eight last year. This whole season 909 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: has been an incredible experience pretty much to take away 910 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: some Utah matchups for USC. So I think they're soaring. 911 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of excitement within the program obviously, 912 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 1: you know the recruiting class coming in, the transfers coming in, 913 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of juice heading to a 914 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: new conference. Like there's a lot of positivity in the 915 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: USC football universe. So I don't think they are so 916 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: jaded that they are looking past the uh what you said, 917 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl, good Year Conton Bowl Classic. Yeah, I don't 918 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: think they're taking it for granted. So it's not an 919 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 1: Alabama situation. I think they're happy to be there, happy 920 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: to be in a big bowl. But I think there'd 921 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: be more juice if you're usc Is saying, oh, man, 922 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: we're playing Penn State in the Rose Bowl. Man, oh, 923 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 1: we're playing so and so and the so and we're 924 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,839 Speaker 1: playing Clemson right that, Like we're back in this conversation 925 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: of having a huge matchup on New Year's Day. Blood 926 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 1: All due respect to Tulane, love me the Green Wave, 927 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: Michael Pratt, all these guys spears. I think I like 928 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 1: Tulane because of the juice in this specific game. Take 929 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: a shot every time I say juice. I like the 930 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: defense's ability to prevent big plays. I do not trust 931 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,879 Speaker 1: quick hamstring injury turnarounds. We've seen it before, We'll see 932 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: it again. Speaking hamstring, Rubinstein hamstring. Maybe it's too personal 933 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 1: for me, but you can go as far as Columbus, 934 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: Ohio and talk to what we thought was going to 935 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: be the best receiver in the country, and Jackson Smith 936 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 1: and Jigba they're tough, and every hams hamstring injury is different. 937 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,919 Speaker 1: But what we saw in the PAC twelve championship game 938 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 1: from Caleb Williams hurt was a fraction, you know, a 939 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 1: nothingness of his former self. And he was still making plays. 940 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: By the way, but his game relies on that mobility, 941 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 1: in that athleticism, and so I'm going to lane here. Look, 942 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: they get the USC defense. We should all be so 943 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 1: lucky in our lives to have the opportunity to run into, through, 944 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: over around and buy the USC defense this year, and 945 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: Tulane will have that opportunity. So I think Michael Pratt's 946 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: pretty good. I'm going to lane here to win this 947 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 1: game and USC to move forward in a very very 948 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: good spot in the sport. 949 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael Pratt, by the way, kind of in a surprise, 950 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,320 Speaker 2: announced that he's coming back to tou Lane. There was 951 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 2: a lot of speculation that he might throw his name 952 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 2: in the portal that we talked about him on one 953 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,359 Speaker 2: of the portal shows that we did. But Pratt coming back, 954 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 2: which is a nice get for the Green Wave. For 955 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 2: Willy Fritz, they had a great season. It is I 956 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 2: think important to note that Willy Fritz squared off last 957 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 2: season in Norman against Lincoln Riley and they almost dumped him. 958 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 2: They were like a thirty one thirty two point underdog 959 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 2: in that game and took Oklahoma to the limit. So 960 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,280 Speaker 2: you know, that's kind of the story of Willie Fritz. 961 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 2: Kind of the story of this two lane team. 962 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 1: Obviously. 963 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 2: Man, yeah, they beat Kansas State earlier in the year, 964 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 2: at the point in time that that went down, what 965 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 2: was it, Week two, Week three? 966 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 1: We're kind of throwing our brow like you los Adrian Martinez, 967 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 1: Kansas State? But yeah, but. 968 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 2: Even still you lost to who to Tulane. But Tulane 969 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,360 Speaker 2: I think is legitimate team. They're they're actually really really good. 970 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 2: I just I don't I don't buy that they can 971 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 2: score with USC. And I get that their offense is 972 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 2: good and that it has a very inviting circumstance going 973 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 2: up against that SC defense. 974 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, I can't. I can't get 975 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 1: the circumstance. Tie. You are a word smife, look at you. 976 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 2: I just I cannot get myself to that point I 977 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 2: believe Tulane's good enough on offense to beat USC. 978 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 1: Well, like, do you think Tulane could beat Oregon State? 979 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 1: I see what you're doing here. Maybe I don't know. 980 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying you don't necessarily need a 981 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: killer at quarterback. I know to beat USC, I know 982 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 1: just enough to the point I can't get that. 983 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 2: I would probably go USC minus the points. Okay, but 984 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 2: I hope it's a close game, and I think it 985 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,240 Speaker 2: will be a close I think Tulane will quit itself. 986 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: I hoping final game the Rose Bowl game pizza. I 987 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 1: think it's Layla. The woman's name l E. I l 988 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: A in Dallas for a quality pan pizza looks really good. 989 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 2: Number eight Utah, number eleven Pence State, Utah favor by 990 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 2: two and a half points. Of course, getting the traditional 991 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 2: kickoff the five pm slot Rose Bowl and Pasadena. Any 992 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 2: good pizza spots in Pasadena? 993 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: Pasadena specifically, I don't know. I got a couple in LA. 994 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: You can do Appollonia's in mid city. Secret Pizza an 995 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: incredible looking pop up New York style, really real or 996 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: New Jersey style really secret pizza, Isn't it? 997 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 2: Isn't it sort of defeating the purpose If you name 998 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,760 Speaker 2: your pizza place secret Pizza. 999 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,399 Speaker 1: Well, it makes people feel like they're in the no right, 1000 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: you want to make your readers feel good about them. 1001 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:02,880 Speaker 1: What did they say in Swingers? 1002 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 2: It's not about not about knowing where the best places 1003 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 2: are or only the best places in LA, or the. 1004 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 1: Places that you can find or that nobody knows about. 1005 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, secret cars that quote, But secret pizza. 1006 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, go to the Dresden That's where they go 1007 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: on swingers. That's right. 1008 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,399 Speaker 2: Parker Washington Hurt opted out for the draft, Joey Porter 1009 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 2: opted out for the draft. 1010 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: On the Penn State side. 1011 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 2: On the Utah side, they got some injuries to contend 1012 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,919 Speaker 2: with Tavian Thomas done for the year. Dalton Kincaid, they're 1013 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 2: big tight end also going to be out injured in 1014 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 2: this game. I've made my opinion known. I'm very biased 1015 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 2: in this one. I want Penn State to win. I'm 1016 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 2: a proud Penn Stater, so I will find everything I 1017 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 2: can in my power to pick the ninty Lyons here. 1018 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 2: I think this should be a awesome football game. I 1019 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 2: think things a really, really good football game. And I 1020 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 2: think the reason that I favor Penn State is because, 1021 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 2: at least offensively, they have more ways. I think right 1022 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 2: now that they can beat you than Utah Utah and 1023 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 2: put up points. They probably will put up points, but 1024 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,840 Speaker 2: it's not like they're going to square off against the 1025 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 2: USC defense. 1026 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 3: Again. 1027 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 2: It is a pretty good Penn State defense, and I 1028 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,879 Speaker 2: think they'll be able to keep things in check enough 1029 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 2: give their offense enough room to work with it's also 1030 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 2: not a great Utah defense, not a shutdown Utah defense. 1031 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: They give up points as well. 1032 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 2: So I just feel like with the weaponry Penn States 1033 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 2: bring into town here, you know Sean Clifford's going to 1034 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 2: be playing it's I hope his last game in year 1035 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 2: fifteen for the Nitney Lions. You know, he will kind 1036 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,959 Speaker 2: of leave it all out there on the field. Many 1037 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 2: of their key contributors from the season or underclassmen, so 1038 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,839 Speaker 2: you would presume they're going to play pretty hard as well. 1039 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I'm on Penn State here 1040 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,719 Speaker 1: plus the number I'm on Penn State here as well, 1041 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,240 Speaker 1: and I like Utah. I like cam Rising a good deal. 1042 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 1: And what is it Twindon, let me get the name right, 1043 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: ty Quentin Jackson who is sort of become a really 1044 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,359 Speaker 1: strong offensive weapon for Utah. We've seen his emergence back 1045 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,720 Speaker 1: half of the season offer something interesting. But yeah, Utah 1046 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 1: was out with has been without their their top edge 1047 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 1: rusher and Van Fillinger for a good chunk of the year. 1048 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 1: I think he hurt himself is in the Wazoo game 1049 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,359 Speaker 1: ahead of the Wazoo game, and so I just I'm 1050 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: worried about the game changers for Utah. And even though 1051 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,760 Speaker 1: Penn State's without Joey Porter Junior, is there a receiver 1052 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: who's now going to run wild without having that matchup 1053 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: for Penn State? And I like Parker Washington, but they 1054 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,879 Speaker 1: have other receivers. They got better running the ball this year. 1055 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,880 Speaker 1: I think I'm going Penn State here. My concern is, God, 1056 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 1: damn Cam Rising as a player. He is just a 1057 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 1: big game dude, and God is he good. And that's 1058 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 1: what worries me. That he is a nightmare on third 1059 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:57,800 Speaker 1: and seven now without both of his tight ends, without 1060 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 1: his starting running back. Just I don't know, man, he 1061 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 1: is such a chicken wire and duct tape type quarterback 1062 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,720 Speaker 1: that you hate to play. No, that's what gives me pause. 1063 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:14,319 Speaker 1: That they have the better quarterback Utah. And so I 1064 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: know you're out on Sean Clifford. I would love nothing 1065 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 1: more than for Shan Clifford to throw for four hundred 1066 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 1: yards in the Rose Bowl to once and for all 1067 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 1: stop with the Drew Aller stuff with you. But I 1068 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: probably not still going not gonna happen. I'm going Penn State. 1069 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm going Penn State because I think the defense is 1070 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 1: the best thing in this game. And if there is 1071 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: if there's a thing that can win this game, it 1072 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,879 Speaker 1: is getting to Cam rising on those scrambles, on those 1073 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 1: those extensions. And I think Penn State has that ability. 1074 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,760 Speaker 1: So I'm going to state we agree. 1075 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 2: So look, if you're gonna be out in the LA area, 1076 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 2: if you're a stater, or maybe extend the trip by 1077 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 2: a few days, go see some of the sites and 1078 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 2: sounds that LA has to offer. If you're a Utah fan, 1079 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 2: you're not that far away from home, maybe extend your 1080 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:02,240 Speaker 2: trip by a in a week and coming see us January. 1081 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 2: Love to at the Troubadour soliverblelive dot com as where 1082 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 2: you can get your tickets. 1083 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,760 Speaker 1: I'd love to see you you. I'm I'm specifically talking 1084 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 1: to you the listener, not to me, not to you. 1085 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,799 Speaker 1: Let's see you tie yeah. Soliverblelive dot com an incredible show. 1086 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a terrific time in LA. It's in Hollywood, 1087 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,399 Speaker 1: specifically Troubadour. It's the best, so good. So look, Dan, 1088 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: that does it for bold previews. 1089 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,840 Speaker 2: Obviously, once we know what the matchup is in the 1090 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 2: National Championship, we'll find a way to preview that in 1091 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,240 Speaker 2: ambitious fashion. Perhaps how we discuss a little bit earlier 1092 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:40,479 Speaker 2: on the show our unnamed podcast project. But I think 1093 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,920 Speaker 2: we're we're we're set up here for a really good 1094 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,799 Speaker 2: weekend of games. I'm excited to ring in the new year. 1095 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,880 Speaker 2: I presume I will be talking to you at some point. 1096 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 1: On New Year's Eve. Yes, we'll be figuring something out 1097 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 1: with the playoff, right, Yeah, okay, definitely. 1098 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,840 Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more on that. We'd love to have 1099 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,320 Speaker 2: you aboard as we do something live. We'll figure out 1100 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 2: the what. 1101 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,360 Speaker 1: And the when. Make sure that you follow us across 1102 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,720 Speaker 1: all social media, will make sure that we post it there. 1103 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 1: In the meantime, Dan, Happy New Year, Hey to you 1104 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 1: as well, Happy New Year to our verbollerhood. 1105 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 2: If we don't talk to you beforehand, enjoy your New 1106 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 2: Year's Eve. We will talk to you in twenty twenty three, 1107 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 2: at least in podcast form the next time you download 1108 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 2: the show. For that guy over there, Dan Rubinstein from 1109 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 2: myself ty home Brand, stay solid, Happy New Year. 1110 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 3: Peace,