1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Beccat Tilly and Tanya Ren and I 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: Heart Radio podcast. Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in, scrubbing 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: in on a Monday. I would just also like to 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: thank Becca Tilly. She brought me um some nourishment in 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: the form of caffeine this morning that I really needed 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: and she put her open bottle of drink down on 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: the floor. So it's nowhere near to any any of 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: our chords and I'm merch so just shout out to Becca. 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: But oh my gosh, we have so much to get 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: into today, so much. There's a lot. I mean, first 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: of all, oh my, I mean, I would I n 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: g e for the photos this weekend. They were you 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: couldn't escape them if you wanted to, So that I mean, 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: we have to just dive in. Also, like the next 15 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: big thing would be Harry's out Harry's house. Yeah, oh 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: my gosh, come on, come on, come on. There's only 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: one thing people want to hear us talk about. The 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: grays Anatomy finale coming up on Thursday. It's gonna be great. 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: April's back. That's the topic people want to hear about. 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: Market was really we were going on a good, good 21 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: good joke there, and then you threw that one in. 22 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: We haven't even I haven't even watched in like three 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: months far gone. I feel like such a chump when 24 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm watching that jow. I'm like, I'm the last one left. 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: And by the time i catch up, because I'm starting 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: from scratch with Red Star season one, so it's gonna 27 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: be a minute before I catch back. Jackson and April 28 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: are coming back this Thursday, so I'll be enjoying that 29 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: while you two are off in La la lad. I tried. 30 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: I tried to sit down and watch recently, and I 31 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: just was like instantly. So now, so I'm I have 32 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: made the effort, actually multiple times to get back in 33 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: and I just haven't. So so anyway, so we're going 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: to get to most of those things, minus marks, suggestion, whatever. 35 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: But before we do, there's a lot to cover. So 36 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let Becca take it from here. Um, 37 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: I mean, where does one begin? Where does one begin? 38 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: I was thinking about it this morning and I was like, 39 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: I don't even know where to start the conversation. I mean, 40 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: if you were, I guess. On social media. This weekend, um, 41 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: there was a reveal of in the form of Haley Kiyoko, 42 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: And it's so weird because like the four like we've 43 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: all it's been four years of this, like we know. 44 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: It's like it's just such a I don't know how 45 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: to explain that. I want to get into your brain. 46 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: It's it's there's a lot, but it's it was so weird. 47 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: Like obviously we knew the video was happening, and that 48 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: was going to at least cause talk and speculation, and 49 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: I mean, in my mind, I thought, how do we 50 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: do this reveal in the video and then not actually 51 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: reveal a relationship? You know, it only made sense to 52 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: do to do it together, and so the video wasn't 53 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: planned as part of the reveal. So the video was 54 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: kind of like we were talking about the video and 55 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: it's always been a joke, and Haley said she's down 56 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: to come on the podcast. So I do want to 57 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: save something for like her, to have her take on things. 58 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to just like go and reveal all 59 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: of like the conversations, because I'd like to hear her side, 60 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: how like how she saw it. Um, but we were 61 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: talking about the video and UM, I've always said I'll 62 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: go public. We can go public if I can be 63 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: in one of your videos, just like be the video girl, 64 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: and I'm not an actress, and she always hires like actress, 65 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: like legit actresses, and so she was always like, okayite 66 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: when you lost the role or like you lost the part, 67 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: And this was supposed to be a video before Yeah, 68 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: her Chance video. I had really like tried to get 69 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: that role because it was such a cute video, and 70 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: luckily she gave it to a legit actress, Alexander Ship, 71 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: and she did a great job. And Haley and I 72 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: probably would have broken up because she's the director on 73 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: her all her videos and she probably would have like 74 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: screamed at me the whole time. Um. But so then 75 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: we were talking about it, and then you know, I 76 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: was kind of saying, like I want to be like 77 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: the drunk, crying girl, and so that was originally kind 78 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: of where we were, and she's like, if that's what 79 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: you want to be, like you can do it. I 80 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: was like I never got to be that girl in 81 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: The Bachelor. I mean I didn't get to like be 82 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: the drama. And then we were talking about it and 83 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: she's like, I think we hire again and the actress 84 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: got the boot again, and she's like, but what if 85 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: you showed up at the end like you did on 86 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: the Ben season and you come out of the limo 87 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: as like a surprise, And I was like, that's cool, 88 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: that's fun. I mean I've already gone it. No, it's 89 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: so tasteful and perfect and like, oh, that's so good. 90 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: So it ended up being that, Um, we had just 91 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: gone to Cabo for our friends are from Brittany's birthday 92 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: and I got I was like so sick when I 93 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: came back. So when we were filming the video, I 94 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: was like not feeling well. I was just like, oh, 95 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: you know. It was one of those days where I 96 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: was like I don't like how I look blah blah blah. 97 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: But um, my sister Caroline styled the whole video, so 98 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: she was on set and it was just all the 99 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: girls were amazing, Like they were so fun and it 100 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: actually felt like the set of The Bachelor, like they 101 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: were so yeah, they were so in character and like 102 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: committed to their like the role of like being on 103 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: the show, and um, it was really fun. But we 104 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: never just you know, it was never this like okay, 105 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: when the videos revealed your relationships are built, right, it 106 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: was like kind of cheeky. It was kind of like 107 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: people have already been talking for a long time, let's 108 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: give a nod to my past of being on the 109 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: Bachelor and to our relationship. And I just was kind 110 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: of like, I think I'm read like I think i'm 111 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: I think it's time. You know, I'm for four years, 112 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: have you know it's been our relationship, But I've never 113 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: I was telling someone the other day like Haley and 114 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: I never were secret, Like we were very much ourselves. 115 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: We held hands in public, we kiss, I entered if 116 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: I met someone. I mean, I'm sure a lot of 117 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: the scrubbers that have met. If I was with Haley, 118 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: I introduced her, this is my girlfriend, Haley. I never 119 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: was like, this is my friend or this is my 120 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: best friend. You know, like I really made an effort 121 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: to make sure that there was that distinction between private 122 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: and secret. And I remember getting like d M s 123 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: and people being like, why is she keeping this a secret? 124 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: And I was like, there's such this weird, like warped 125 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: like perception of privacy via social media because we're so 126 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: expected to share everything, um, and so you know, as 127 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: time was getting closer, I was like, I think him right, 128 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean it feels like time. And I posted the video, 129 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: the real video of us, and um, I posted it 130 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: and then I kind of put my phone down and 131 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: I looked at Haley and I was like, oh my gosh, 132 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: like it's out there, like it's not just ours anymore, 133 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: and she's like it is hours. Like we still can 134 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: choose like what we share whatever, but you know, people 135 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: are going to be so supportive, and um, I was 136 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: just not prepared for the support at all. Like, first 137 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: of all, the thing that was obviously I've known about 138 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: your relationship, so I was like watching it all unfold 139 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: on social media and like all these posts and stuff 140 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: and so like right when the music video came out, 141 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: it was like Beck Attilly makes shocking surprise, you know, 142 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: guest appearance and Haley Kyoko's video and then like three 143 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: hours later it's you know, Beck and Haley Kyoko confirmed 144 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: their relationship with a kiss on stage, and then the 145 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: next day it was like Becca has this. It was 146 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: just like the constant um updates on your on your 147 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: relationship or something that you were posting or people were seeing, 148 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: and it was like very from an outsider seeing it all, 149 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: I can't imagine if it was me so I imagine 150 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: I want to hear your reaction to just like seeing 151 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: it all unfold. But it was very crazy seeing the 152 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: like of it all. Yeah, it was like every couple 153 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: hours there was a different like side to it. So 154 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: I realized. Actually, So the video came out Thursday at 155 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: nine pm and then we had a party at this bar, 156 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: and um, so we left for the bar like right 157 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: as the video came out, So I didn't even have 158 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: time to like get on social media yet. Like I 159 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: actually went straight to the scrubbing in Facebook group and 160 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: I was just like hi, and that's all I posted. 161 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: I gotta get back in I do, um Facebook help me. 162 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: And then we went to the bar and it was 163 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: like insanity, Like it was so crowded. I was so sober, 164 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: Like I was like, my brain is just like fully 165 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: overwhelmed right now. And um, Luckily I saw Tania, Paulina 166 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: and Sophia like right when we got on the car, 167 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, being god, y'all 168 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: are here, and and then Haley was like giving a 169 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: speech like thanking everyone for being there, and I'm like filming. 170 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: I'm like happy to be in the cute. No, it 171 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: was the cutest thing, and I saw you just like 172 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: you were around and nobody that you knew, like you 173 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: were like out in the crowd with all of her 174 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: fans filming Haley's speech, like you like with the biggest 175 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: smile on your face. Total Chris Jenner. I filmed it. 176 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: It was just the cutest thing ever. I should put 177 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: the whole thing in this Facebook group when I get 178 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: back in because it was just like proud Chris Jenner. 179 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: Moment is so sweet. And and then she goes like, 180 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: where's Becca. Becca came here? And I was like no, 181 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: Like I had no idea she was going to bring 182 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: me on stage and I was like, oh no. In 183 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: those videos, I look so uncomfortable, like you can tell. 184 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: I was just like, you not prepared for that. And 185 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: after that moment, because she you know, she was here's 186 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: the final rows, was like okay, like um, but and 187 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: then she kissed me, and of course like everyone's I 188 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: just see everyone's phone going crazy, and I'm like, you know, 189 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: I had a moment after that where I realized I 190 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: don't like a ton of direct attention on me, Like 191 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: I don't like a lot of like I like kind 192 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: of I enjoyed being there filming her, which is great 193 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: because she's a performer and she thrives on eyes on 194 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: her um. And so then we went back home and 195 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: like some people came over. We had pizza and stuff 196 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: and then went to bed, and so I just it 197 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: was kind of almost like the best distraction, you know, 198 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: the party, because it wasn't like I was just sitting 199 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: on my phone like watching because I did not know 200 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: how it was going to go. I knew that I had, 201 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: like I knew I had a big group of people 202 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: that had my back and that we're going to support 203 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: me and love me and encourage me and us in 204 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: our relationship, and people who have championed our relationship since 205 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: day one, even people like she went to Ben's wedding 206 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: with me, and like I introduced her to so many 207 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: people from the Bachelor world and just people from different 208 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: parts of my life, and everyone was so warm and 209 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: kind to her that I knew, like even people are 210 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: not like super close with they would still be supportive, 211 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: you know. But it was like in the Scrubbers. Of course, 212 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: I knew like the majority of the Scrubbers were going 213 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: to be there, but there was this other part of 214 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: me that had been fearing the reaction of people. First 215 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: for four years, like there was that do I want 216 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: to let that negativity into our relationship? And I when 217 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: I made the decision to go public with it, I thought, 218 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: I have this army of people who have my back 219 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: no matter what, and like, the people that I care 220 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: about most in the world are are our supporters and 221 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: they love us, and um, and so I was prepared 222 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: for anything and everything. I was not prepared for the 223 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: amount of love and support that we got, Like I 224 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: just could have never I could have never predicted. I 225 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: made a pretty far before I started crying. I cried 226 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: all day on Friday. So but um, you know, I 227 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: think there was a lot of emotion and I've always 228 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: felt your support and love and um, Hayley has really 229 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, made me feel brave. And she was always 230 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: like people are gonna love you. People love you, and 231 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: they want to see you happy. And I just I'm 232 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: so thankful for you guys. And this podcast, like making sure, 233 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: like the pronoun thing was so stressed, like every time 234 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: I would have to reformulate sentences in my head before 235 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: I said, I'm like, oh God, how am I gonna 236 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: to do this? You know? And then even still y'all 237 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: looked out for me, and um, you know, if we 238 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: were if we were like going to like doing something 239 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: and it slipped out fast and be like oh you know, 240 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: And I just I think that was um like a 241 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: moment where someone actually come into this in the Facebook group. 242 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: They were like how amazing that so many people in 243 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: their life new and this never got out. And I 244 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: was like the level of like respect that that takes 245 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: for people to keep something like that to themselves and 246 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: not out us was pretty incredible, like looking at it 247 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: because like a lot of people knew. It's not like 248 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: it was like yeah, um so, I just I could 249 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: have never prepared myself. And that morning, actually Hayley had 250 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: had all my close friends right like a hare to 251 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: me or a letter to me. I started the day. 252 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: I mean I was like sobbing because I was like 253 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: I was not prepared for this, and she was like, 254 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: I just wanted you to be like covered in love today. 255 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: And I felt so at peace all day, Like I 256 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: never once felt anxious like towards like when the release 257 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: is happening. Really, when I got to the crowded bar, 258 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: I got anxious, but I was like from the crowd honestly, 259 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: I was like what But I never you know, I 260 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: never had this like what am I doing? Like this 261 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: is where I'm not doing it? Something's wrong? You know. 262 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: I just felt so loved and at peace and um, 263 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: so it was just it was I couldn't have asked 264 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: or predicted anything better as far as just that day 265 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: and how I felt, and um, we both felt it. 266 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: So I was really grateful. You deserve it. And I think, um, 267 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: you know, for it's interesting because I think some people 268 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: listening might not understand because it's just like you love 269 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: who you love and that's it, and you know what 270 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Like it's not a big deal. But I 271 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: think when you, you know, if you kind of really 272 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: look at you know, if you're you've been told that 273 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: something's wrong or you're doing something wrong, and you feel 274 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: that for so many years to be free and to 275 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: feel the love and support that you deserve and that 276 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: like everybody deserves, you know, it's just like I was 277 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: really overwhelmed and emotional for you two over the weekend 278 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: because like, you deserve nothing less than this. And I 279 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: hope you didn't see one negative comment because I don't 280 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: think I did. But I kind of like I purposely 281 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: like didn't go searching too far, but you know, I 282 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: think I and I do think. I actually watched this 283 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: video the day of and Hayley's sister actually sent it 284 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: to me, and it's this you would love it. It's 285 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: these caterpillars talking to a butterfly, and the butter the 286 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: caterpillars are like you've changed, like you're not like us, 287 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: and the butterflies like I'm me, and then you know, 288 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: the butterfly goes to like hug the caterpillars, and um, 289 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: it's like in your own the butterflies like in your 290 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: own way, thanks for caring, but like I'm gonna go 291 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: beat me, you know. And I thought, you know, people 292 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: who have or people who have questions or they're confused, 293 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: like I think they're just sometimes it's their own way 294 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: of caring and it's not always perfect. It's not always 295 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: how you want it to go. But sometimes people just 296 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: car and they don't know how to like formulate it 297 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: or express it in the right way. But um, there 298 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: were so many people in the Facebook group who and 299 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: people who message me saying that they've you know, been 300 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: going through the same thing and navigating their sexuality and 301 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: it's so it's so much bigger than me that that 302 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: was also a very humbling thing of like I've I've 303 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: thought so much about like how is this going to 304 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: affect me? How's it going to affect my relationship? And 305 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: it's the whole thing was so much bigger than me. 306 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: Like I got messages from people saying they had a 307 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: family friend who's daughter was navigating or just came out 308 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: to them and my video gave them a different perspective 309 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, yeah, like this isn't just 310 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: about me personally. Yeah. Well, And I think also something 311 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: that I feel like over the years, when you know, 312 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: friend friends of mine or whatever, they met you and 313 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, she has a girlfriend. I didn't know 314 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: she was a lesbian, and I'm like, she's not, you know, 315 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 1: she just has a girlfriend. Like I don't know how 316 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: to tell you. You know, it's just like everybody's quick 317 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: to or like you have to be a certain thing, 318 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: and it's just like, no, I love this woman, you know, 319 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: like I've never felt like this before and I'm happy 320 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: and that's it. And I think that was also a 321 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: thing for me was like when I met Haley and 322 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: we got into relationship. Like I didn't even think about 323 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: having to like label myself for like my sexuality or 324 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: what that meant because we fell in love so fast 325 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: that it was just kind of like I was like, 326 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: by the way, not for this podcast, but maybe next week. 327 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: I wanted I wanted to tell the story of like 328 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: how it happened. Well, that's why I definitely want to 329 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: do that with Haley. Yeah, but I will talk about 330 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: your reaction. Um, And like you know, there there was 331 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: an leading up to this point. I was like, oh 332 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm gonna have to address like my sexuality, 333 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: my label. And I was like, I've never connected with that, 334 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: and I think my story is different from other people, 335 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: Like even you know, my sisters when they've talked to me, 336 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, I've never you know, I never had 337 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: that attraction to men, Like it was a very They 338 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: were very confident in their who they were and that 339 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: label meant something to them. And for me, I this 340 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: isn't something like I personally navigated my whole life, you know. 341 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: I think like when I look back at things, like 342 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: I always loved, like I loved Kate Wincelet and Leonardo 343 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: and Titanic, and I loved Joey and Pacy and um 344 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: Dawson screen, you know, but I always was just like oh, 345 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: and then people would talk about like girl crushes and 346 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I have those two, but I never 347 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: had like that, Like when I met Hayley. That was 348 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: the first time I had that specifically for a woman, 349 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: and it was it did, but it was It's so 350 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: fascinating because it was so it was so like magnetic 351 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: magnetic that I never questioned who she was or what, 352 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: you know. It was just like I fell in love 353 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: with this person and this someone's soul in their heart, 354 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: and I never had to like overthay that part. Really, 355 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 1: I'd never over I had to overthink that part until 356 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: I started thinking about coming out publicly because I thought 357 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: it would be a conversation and I think I hope 358 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: that one day people don't have to come out, Like 359 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: that's my wish for people, because it's it puts so 360 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,239 Speaker 1: much pressure. And it's like if you come out and 361 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: you say you identify as is something, and then maybe 362 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: someone else comes into your life and it changes, there's 363 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: this then there's this other pressure and it's like sometimes 364 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: it's as simple as the age old saying love is love, 365 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: like it's not about any of that, and so I, um, 366 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: I that's how I feel too. And like I had 367 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: some people write me and they were like when did 368 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: you become gay? And I'm like, okay, it wasn't eloquently put, 369 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: but I get like people you know, who followed me 370 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: on the Bachelor and stuff, it's like, how does this 371 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: just happen? And it's just like how do you just 372 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: fall in love with someone? You can't explain it, It 373 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: just happens. Um. But it's good that you let yourself 374 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: follow those feelings. I think a lot of people are 375 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm not that person. That's not me. I don't have that. 376 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: I think it's great that you were open to that. 377 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: And I think I mean, I was thirty when I'm 378 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: or I was nine when I met Haley, but I 379 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: was very confident in who I was and I wasn't 380 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: I mean thinking about navigating this in middle school or 381 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: high school or like being and not having the support. 382 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that was a huge thing for me. 383 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: Was like I told all my friends and they were like, what, well, great, 384 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: like can't wait to meet her? You know, there was 385 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: never this like like even my friends who I was 386 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: expecting a little pushback from We're just like, we're so happy, 387 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: you're happy, you know, and not everyone gets that. And 388 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: I really, I like recognize how fortunate I am that 389 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: my coming out has been such a beautiful, positive, overwhelming 390 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: in the best way type of thing, because a lot 391 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: of people don't have that um reaction, and they live 392 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: in fear and they live wondering who's going to have 393 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: their back, and um, I just want people to know that, 394 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: like you'll be surprised, like when you find your people 395 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: that they love you. And it's so important to have 396 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: those types of like relationships around you because I never 397 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: once felt judged or unsupported or I never once felt 398 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: bad about my relationship. Crazy. It's like just thinking back 399 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: when everything first happened, you know what I mean, back 400 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: in the Brownwood apartment. We should talk about that, but 401 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break first, all right. We are back. 402 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: So Tanny and I are arguing because we have two 403 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: different stories of how I told her. And I know 404 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: I'm right because I remember these like so clearly. I 405 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: remember every conversation I had with everybody. I know I'm 406 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: right because I remember exactly where I was when you 407 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: told me. I was on your bed. I was on 408 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: your bed. We were cleaning your room. There's no way, yes, no, 409 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: there's no way, because what happened was I told Tanya 410 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: because you were like, oh, what did you do this weekend? Yeah, 411 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: and I was like, this is on the phone. Yeah, 412 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: So you weren't in my bed. No, No, you didn't 413 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: tell me that. You didn't talk about the kiss. Okay, 414 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: the kiss k on I was on your bed. Because 415 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: I will never forget my reaction, I was like, but 416 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: I told you I met her and then we went 417 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: to drink. Yeah, because you were trying to set her 418 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: up with your sister. In my mind, this was a 419 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: sister set up, not a Becca set up. I still 420 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: feel like I told you on the phone before the Okay, 421 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: So I and we'll get more into the details of 422 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: things when Haley comes on. But we went to UM 423 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: I would. I went to her album released party because 424 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: our friend Brittany kind of grew up with Haley and Newer, 425 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: and Haley invited her and was like invite whoever, like 426 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: come over, you know, come to the party. So Brittany 427 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: wrote me and she like, do you want to go 428 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: to this? And I was like, oh, my gosh, it's 429 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: so crazy. My sister's love her, Like, yeah, let's go. 430 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: And in my mind I thought, Okay, if this party sucks, 431 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: like we can go out after this is when I 432 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: was kind of like in my I was like kind 433 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: of party in a little bit. And so we go 434 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: to the party and Haley, my sisters ended up not 435 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: being able to come because they had work or something 436 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: the next day, and so are you okay? One of 437 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: them went no, he went no, she did. Okay. Now 438 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: I don't trust Tony's view because neither of my sisters 439 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: was there. No, I'm my promise. I'm positive. Yeah, Texter, 440 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: I think I I'm with Tanya on the bed one 441 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: and I'm with Becca on the party. I think, well, yeah, 442 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: so we we meet and um we met that night. 443 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: It was a Wednesday, and then everyone was supposed to 444 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: get drinks on a Friday. Everyone bailed and Haley was like, 445 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: you and I could get drinks, and I was like 446 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: this girl is like what's she trying to do? So 447 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: we went and had drinks and we just like really 448 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: hit it off. And I remember leaving that night and 449 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: being like that was different, you know, like I normally, 450 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: if I were to go get drinks with someone, like 451 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: after one drink or so or an hour, I'd be like, okay, thanks, 452 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: but one of your sisters was supposed to come to 453 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: get drinks. Yeah, it was a group of us that 454 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: were supposed to get Everybody end up bailing and you 455 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: were like. Haley was like you and I could get 456 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: a drink, and you were just like okay, yeah, and 457 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: then um, and so that night happened. We like closed 458 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: the bar down, and I remember going home being like, well, 459 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, that was interesting. And then the next day 460 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: we all went out again and Haley came and met us, 461 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, do I want to say this for 462 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: when Haley comes on. I don't know. Well, she'll tell 463 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: her side, which I'm sure is different. Yes, yes, I 464 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: think keep going. And so then we went over to 465 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: Britnie's house and I had I was like I had 466 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: been drinking. It was like two am at this point, 467 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: and we went back to Bernie's house and everyone was 468 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: like walking up the stairs and um, that's so good. 469 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: Actually I pulled her back and I kissed her, and 470 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: she still says to the stage, She's like I never 471 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: would have made the first move, Like there's just no way. 472 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: I was like, there's no chance I would have made 473 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: the first move. So minute, wait a minute. I want 474 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: to know about your mindset leading into that, Like did 475 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: you just decide, like, because all we've gotten from was 476 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: that was interesting all the way? Do you planting one 477 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: on her? In between? There there was a lot of 478 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: shots of tequila and other what they say, drunken words 479 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: or sober thoughts. Yes, they do say that. Um, so 480 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: we kissed and then the next day I'm just like, 481 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm just not giving details because I want but these 482 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: are your head details. So you just decided the hell 483 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: with it. You didn't think to yourself like, wow, I'm 484 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: having feelings for this person and I would like to 485 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: act on that. It was just impulsive. I knew after 486 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: we had drinks that I was having feelings. And then 487 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: when she came to meet us afterwards. Oh, we were 488 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: at the bar and we were like sitting on a 489 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: bench and I had she was like holding my hand 490 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: behind someone's back, like she had grabbed my hand, and 491 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: I was like, I looked at our friend Taylor Banks, 492 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, she's holding my hand. Okay, I 493 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: just want to jump in. I was wrong, Um, your 494 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: sisters were not there. It was just you and Dean. Yeah, me, 495 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: Dean and Brittany. So I was wrong. Yeah. So there 496 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: was no thought in your head whether or not she 497 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: felt the same way you were. You were very confident 498 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: with this move. Oh yeah, I knew she was the 499 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: whole time. At the like when the night we met, 500 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: she was like, it is back into girls, and Brittany 501 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: was like no, but her sister is like, we were 502 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: like really pushing the utter up with my sister. Um. 503 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, I had no. I was not at all 504 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: like questions like maybe she's gonna reject me. Um. And 505 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: so we went and then the next day I think 506 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: I told that when I saw you. No, it wasn't. 507 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: You didn't see me until the next week because she 508 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: left to go on tour and then she came back 509 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: that next week and you helped me clean the day 510 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: that she was coming over. Correct, I told you the 511 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: day after we kissed. Correct on the phone. No, No, 512 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: I don't trust your details. He's talking que her, So 513 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: don't trust Tanya. Anything she says is a fabricated lie. 514 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm going back to the Becca side now because here's 515 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: the thing I vividly remember when I came to your 516 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: house to help you clean. Okay, maybe you told me 517 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: that like you had feelings for her or something, But 518 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: I remember specifically hearing about the kiss on your bed 519 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: because I was like my reaction was just like shocked. 520 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: I was like shook, My eyes didn't shut. But in 521 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: your story, that means she sat on that information for 522 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: a week before she told you. Yeah, that's not that 523 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: seems unlikely to me. Well, and like why would I 524 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: call her the next day and not talk about the kiss? 525 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, Like so I am told her and 526 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: she was like oh, she was like what And I 527 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: was like, I know, crazy. She was like wait what 528 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: It was a lot of like Tanya, you know, just 529 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: like processing, a lot of processing. Yeah. And so then 530 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: Hailey left for tour that next week, and we basically 531 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: were a long distance for the first year. I mean, 532 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: like we saw each other. I would fly out to 533 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, different tour destinations, and I don't think we 534 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: went longer. I think the longest was the month she 535 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: went on her European tour. But we try to see 536 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: each other like every two weeks. But we I mean 537 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: from the day we met, we talked every single day NonStop, 538 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: like there was never like a oh, what is you know, 539 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: It's just like we knew and it was fast. It 540 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: was something immediately. It was never in that weird area 541 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: where you're not sure what And I've always lived in 542 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: the weird area, like I love the weird area kind 543 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: of because it's always like a little bit of like 544 00:30:53,680 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: a noncommitted yeah yeah, so um I it was is 545 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: not much of a and Haley is a communicator, so 546 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: there was never like a you know, she was like 547 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: what is this? You know, there was never that I 548 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: never had to have that hard conversation because we both 549 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: knew that we wanted to to do it. And of 550 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: course she's like, of course I meet someone right before 551 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: melting on tour and just be like surrounded by people 552 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: all the time, and now I'm I've fallen in love 553 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: with somebody. But yeah, it was quick. I remember I 554 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: was like doing a lot of research when you told 555 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: me about her, because I didn't really know much about it. 556 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: And I was like, you're we go on the deep 557 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: dive in the deep dive. Yeah, so so then so 558 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: it seems like when you're somebody like you who people know, 559 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to use the celebrity word, But when 560 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: you're a known person, there's like three level three possibilities. 561 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: Like for the rest of us, it's like you're either 562 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: a public relationship or a private relationship where you have 563 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: private relationship public relationship where everyone in your world knows, 564 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: and then it's like out to the world. And that 565 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: that's why we've been doing for four years, right, because 566 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: you just felt like it was nobody's business. Is that 567 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: the feeling? Um yeah, I think I've been working so 568 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: hard on myself and like going to therapy and navigating 569 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, different not so much that part of my life. 570 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: That that part of my life. I've always just kind 571 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: of been like we fell in love and we have 572 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: had like the most like beautiful, healthy, like growth induced relationship. 573 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: You know, it's always been it's like working and doing 574 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: the work to be in the relationship and like show 575 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: up the best that we can. Um. But different parts 576 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: of my life of like learning how to communicate and 577 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: not shutting down and like tearing down the walls and 578 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: like it's been a lot of work and I've had 579 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: to like really it's been very emotional and hard because 580 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: it's been a lot of like self reflection and confrontation 581 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: with myself and things that I've done my whole life 582 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: that have worked out until I was with someone who 583 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: kind of called me out on it or like challenge me. 584 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: And um, I think for those four years, I wanted 585 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: to make sure that I felt safe in that decision 586 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: to share something so special and personal to me with 587 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: people who are critics. You know. Obviously there's so many 588 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: people who are just supporters and are rooting me on, 589 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: but there's also critics. You know, there's always going to 590 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: be critics, and um, whether it's a relationship or whatever. 591 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: My sister the other day was like, I was scouring 592 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: the comments like ready to fight people, and I was like, 593 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: you can't do that, and she was like, yeah, I 594 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: realized people like criticize you for putting too much creamer 595 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: in your coffee, so there's always gonna be There's always 596 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: going to be something. And I was like, that's honestly 597 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: such a I mean, it's funny, but it's such a 598 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: good point of like critics or critics, and they're going 599 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: to find anything to be critical about. There's also something 600 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,719 Speaker 1: so like special about how patient and Haley has been 601 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: with you, you know, because I think obviously you know, 602 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: she has been loud and proud, and she's been you know, vocal, 603 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: but that you know, this is all it was all 604 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: new for you, you know, like this you were navigating 605 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: all this for the first time. And I feel like 606 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: she extended a lot of like patience and grace and 607 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: love towards you in those things, in those areas, because 608 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: I think obviously the way your relationship was wasn't ideal 609 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: for her in the beginning, you know, like she I'm 610 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: sure she wanted to splatter you all over her social media, 611 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: and I feel like there's so much beauty in that too. 612 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: Oh one thousand percent. I mean, Haley, I we have 613 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: like the most like like the sweetest talks where we're 614 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: I mean, she's just so she I have never doubted 615 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: her love for me, and it's I mean obviously in 616 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: a way of like she's in love with me, but 617 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: like the like loving someone and caring for someone and 618 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: like doing what's best for them when they need it. 619 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: Like and I would always explain to her, She's like, 620 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: you're gonna get so much support, Like any whenever you 621 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: come out publicly, You're gonna get so much support. And 622 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, it's different for you. Like my following 623 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: comes from like a really conservative like uh, like a 624 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: lot of religious, like a different background than your followers. 625 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: Like you've been celebrated for who you are, and I'm 626 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: it's not going to be that way for me. And 627 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: she was always like, it's totally on your time. And 628 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: I think at a certain point, I don't know when 629 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: the shift happened, but I think she got comfortable with 630 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: it being like hours too and so then I was like, oh, no, 631 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: are we were We never gonna be like um, but 632 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: she's just been amazing, like even you know, just like 633 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: last night and she was like, I'm so proud of you, 634 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: and I love you more than more now than I 635 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: didn't even know I could love you more, and I 636 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: love you more. I'm just like so proud. So she's 637 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: the best and and I have just been so lucky 638 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: to be with someone who has put my my needs 639 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: above hers and specifically this area. And I mean, she's amazing. 640 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: She is who she is, and you know, she's never 641 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: wavered from that, and I've always admired that because she's 642 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: very much like this is who I am. If you 643 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: like it, great, and if you don't like, that's okay, 644 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: And I'm obviously the opposite. I've been like a people 645 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 1: pleaser my whole life, and I'm like, I need everybody 646 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 1: to like me, and so I've really feel like I 647 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: just admire her so much for that. I do too, 648 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: because I feel like she and I are similar in 649 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: a lot of ways. But I get annoyed if I'm 650 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: not on your like Instagram feed for a while, and 651 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: if our dating for four years, I would be like, 652 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: where the f is my photo? Where am I at here? 653 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: I can't wait for my reels? And also people posted 654 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: did you see video of of Robbie hug It made 655 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: me so emotional. I'm trying to track down the person. 656 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,959 Speaker 1: So somebody posted this videos guitar best friend Larry, who's 657 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: her guitar. I think I dammed him because everybody's sending 658 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,479 Speaker 1: me this video and they're like, is that red star 659 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: hugging Becca? And I was like, that is so? I 660 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: think they were. He was just like filming the crowd 661 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: at the moment, and you can see in like the 662 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 1: bottom left corner it was when so he showed up alot. 663 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: He came after me because he had a dinner with 664 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: his um college friends in town or something. So he 665 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: met me. I was there with my girlfriend's Sophie and Paulina, 666 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: and he the minute he got there, he's like, I 667 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: just want to see Becca, and so he you see 668 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: this video and it's like the they captured the exact 669 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: moment that he showed up and he grabs Becca's like shoulder, 670 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: He like that beautiful little like snuggy little thing like 671 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm here. I like, I love you to support you, 672 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: and like the hug and he like whispered something in 673 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: your ear. You guys, it was just like such a 674 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: beautiful video. It made me so emotional. It was it 675 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: made me emotional too, because I mean when he showed up, 676 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: I mean, I have such a like my friend's boyfriends 677 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: have been so warm and kind and obviously they love me, 678 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: but they love Haley. And it's been like the most 679 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: beautiful thing to watch. You know, these men who grew 680 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: up in very like traditional like men like hetero world right, 681 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: just like embrace our relationship and love and like support 682 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: us so much and so curious about it. He's always 683 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: been so curious, Like he's always asking Becca these like 684 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: uncomfortable questions and I wants to know, you know, like 685 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: he really wants to know. I can't remember. I don't 686 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: know what question he asked. But the first time we 687 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: the four of us met like and spent time together, 688 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: Haley and I laughed and I was like, I have 689 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: not been asking these questions maybe ever, But that's Robbie. 690 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: He's curious and he's Um. I I loved that something 691 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: that he caught that moment because it meant so much 692 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: too to me, Like is you know him him even 693 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: showing up after his dinner with his friends. So yeah, 694 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. We men can evolve. That's a good 695 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: lesson to know out there. Men can evolve. Men, Cannibal, 696 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: That's why. You know, Like sometimes like there's like man 697 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: bashing that's happening, and I'm like, sure, Like I think 698 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: there's in any group of people. I think there are 699 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: bad eggs, women, men, everything. Yeah, I have been surrounded 700 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: by so many good men that I don't have like 701 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: like even I think last week on the podcast, you 702 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: are like men or whatever, and I was like, no, 703 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to bash men like there are some 704 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm surrounded by so many good men, so 705 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 1: I um, I have watched men be like the best 706 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: and show up and even you know, it's interesting. At 707 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: JoJo's wedding, Haley came and uh, a lot of those 708 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: guys were like Southern guys, you know, Southern like national guys, 709 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: and you know, you think, like we live in such 710 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: a bubble in l A. And you expect everyone's like 711 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: how have you not? You know, you expect everyone to 712 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: have like relationships or friendships with people in same sex relationships, 713 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: but not everyone is. And so it was cool though 714 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: to see everyone, especially people who know me from the 715 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: Bachelor and like haven't known about my relationship status or 716 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: cared um be so welcoming and warm and like supportive, 717 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 1: just like right off the bat, and my whole like 718 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: four years of dating Haley has been like, Hi, this 719 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 1: is my girlfriend, Haley. And then like five minutes later 720 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: the person's like, so are you dating anybody? And I'm like, yeah, girlfriend, 721 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: Like this is my girlfriend romantically, you know, like I've 722 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: I've had to do that my whole relationship because and 723 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: not I've never been offended by it. I just think 724 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: it's funny because it's like, you know, I'm making I 725 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 1: make an effort to be like my girlfriend and then 726 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: they're like, so, who are you dating any lucky guy 727 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: right totally like no, this chick over here. I'm so 728 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: glad that that we know the guy. I'm going to 729 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: get that video because it literally I like cried when 730 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: I saw Yeah, I'll get it from her something. I 731 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: was seeing your best friend and your boyfriend and like 732 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: a very tender moment that was just like like I'm done, 733 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know. I mean, have I missed anything? 734 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. So the whole point what Tony was 735 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 1: talking about when she says she heard it on the 736 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: bed that like the next week, Hayley came back for 737 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: a break on tour and she had a day off 738 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: in my room, like it's always messy, but it was 739 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: I looked like in a smaller apartment and it was 740 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: like messy. It looks like it looked like the Tasmanian 741 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: Devil ran through and just like went to my closet 742 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: and drawers and just like through everything and you couldn't 743 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: even step on your floor without stepping on clothes, like it, 744 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: let's not make this about my personal issues. So um, 745 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,879 Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way she can come over 746 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: and see this, like you, this is unacceptable. You gotta 747 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: clean this up. So so Tanya came over and helped 748 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,879 Speaker 1: me for like all day, like basically clean my house. 749 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: So then Haley comes over and she's like, oh my god, 750 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: like this is a dream. You're so clean, and I 751 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, my doing. I'm so organized. See how 752 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: the shelf is color coordinated? I yeah, she knows now 753 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: it's not who I am, so um yeah. So that 754 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: was great. And then I think like the first person 755 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: who found out outside of my family and friends in 756 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: a weird way I think was Taylor Swift because I 757 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: flew out for Haley, went on stage with her and 758 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: Austin and after the show, Um, I got to meet 759 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: Taylor and in her dressing room and she's like, you know, 760 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 1: it's like when I was thinking about it, I was, 761 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: I think that was the first person who knew it's 762 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: a hell of a blessing for the relationship. She Swift, 763 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: and she was probably just like okay, no, she was, 764 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,439 Speaker 1: Yeah she was. It felt like talking to a friend. 765 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: Did she know you from The Bachelor? I don't think so. No. 766 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,919 Speaker 1: I think she's like, I mean she's like watched the show. 767 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: I was like, I think she mentioned like Paradise or something, 768 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: but I don't know. If she like recognizing Um, but 769 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: she was great. But I thought that was a really 770 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 1: cool thing because obviously Taylor Swift stand forever. It always 771 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: comes back to Taylor sometimes always comes back to Taylor. UM. 772 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: So if you okay, okay, good quick if you had 773 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: to describe how your weekend felt in the Taylor Swift song, 774 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: oh h normally she's so good, I know, but that's 775 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: about herself. A little tremble the first one that came 776 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: to my mind, Well, two of them. I have one too, 777 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,399 Speaker 1: what wile this dreams? Oh no, but that's a good 778 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: one too, basically that N nine album, because I was 779 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: going to say, actually out of the Woods, oh interesting 780 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: and wow, good ones better than while this dreams, Well, 781 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: we're thrilled for you. Do you feel like do you 782 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: just feel like free? Yeah? I really do. I feel 783 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,359 Speaker 1: out like that whole song like really encompasses me, my 784 00:44:42,680 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: experience in my relationship. So I think my favorite thing 785 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: about the whole thing, honestly, is that you're not coming 786 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: out to the world saying I'm a lesbian. You're coming 787 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: out to the world. You're saying I am in love 788 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: with Haley. Because it shouldn't be about labels. It should 789 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: be about love, and that's what it's always should be about. 790 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,919 Speaker 1: I think so many people look at it it's black 791 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: and white, it's one or the other, and it's just not. 792 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: It's just love, that's all it is. And when you 793 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 1: have those feelings, you shouldn't fight them. I agree, and 794 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: I've That's what I've always said. Is like, for me, 795 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: it was never about my label, but I I think 796 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: a lot of people having the label and being able 797 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: to name what it is that they've experienced has been 798 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: like is really important for some people. That just wasn't 799 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: my experience. And so that is like exactly what I'm saying. 800 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: It's not like this is my label, this is my sexuality. 801 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: It's more like, hey, I'm in love and I'm excited 802 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,800 Speaker 1: to share with you. You're right. I feel like sometimes 803 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: labels help people feel like, Yeah, like when I say 804 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: vagina tingles, I got the vagina tingles, Like there's no 805 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: word for that, right, simply the vagina. Figure out a 806 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: word for that. I've used that a lot. Yeah, so 807 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 1: very good comparison, Tanya, Yeah, that was a little choppy. 808 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 1: So yeah, I've just I just the vagina tingles after 809 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: your first kiss yeah. I mean I think when you 810 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: have a good first kiss with anybody, you is no 811 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: new new when you have a good first kiss. I've 812 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,879 Speaker 1: had lots of good first kisses, like sure, but I've 813 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,799 Speaker 1: had the vagina tingles once. You didn't. I said that 814 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 1: multiple times. Unless you're all the tape. Oh well, now 815 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: we don't trust you. Speaking of rolling the tape, I 816 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: would like to shout out a scrubber, excuse me, I 817 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,439 Speaker 1: have some tape to roll myself. Actually, once you're done 818 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 1: with this, okay, I had a scrubber reach out to 819 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: me over the weekend. Oh my god, it's so good, 820 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 1: and basically called Becca and Mark out from a past 821 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: from a past podcast, saying that like at one, oh, 822 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: here we go. This podcast episode was titled significant other 823 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,320 Speaker 1: Q and A. So I'm guessing this is when uh 824 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,839 Speaker 1: we had our significant others fill in the questions at 825 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: Mark Center and they time stamped it. So is that 826 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,879 Speaker 1: minute sixty eight Becka and Mark both agreeing with you 827 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: that Red Star made the first move, and then this 828 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: past week they claimed you made the first move. Do 829 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 1: what you will with this information, But if I were you, 830 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: I'd call them out. Thank you. Danny Small Okay, I 831 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: don't know what she's talking about because you made the 832 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 1: first and actually it's funny. I have an authority I 833 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: can go to on this. Her name is Tanya rad 834 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: Eastern Roll the tape. Please, who made the first move? 835 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,959 Speaker 1: Why can't you just look at photos and like them 836 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: like you mentally, mentally, just like it mentally. Don't double tag, raison, 837 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: double tap if you're especially in those situations like if 838 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,439 Speaker 1: it's just a friend or whatever, and you're like liking 839 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: their photos, but if you like those photos, it's because 840 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 1: you want that person to maybe notice you totally. That 841 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:16,919 Speaker 1: like liking a photo is essentially like dropping a handkerchief. Yeah, yes, 842 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 1: well put, Tania, well put, and I'm glad you agree 843 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: with us. There was zero, very very deeply. I want 844 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 1: to thank Kayla Ridley from Charlotte, North Carolina. That was 845 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 1: an episode forty two on July seven. That's how far 846 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: back Kayla went for that one. There. It is like 847 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: the photo is dropping a handkerchief. To be fair, I 848 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:47,439 Speaker 1: was talking about Instagram. Uh not in the app. More 849 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 1: of a first move in a dating app than it 850 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: is on Instagram. Yeah, that was Yeah, I honestly think 851 00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: I was specifically on a dating app. That's that's the 852 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 1: nail in the coffin right there on not a conversation. 853 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: You would like to thank Danny Small for sending that 854 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: in for me. Well, I'd like to hear that tape 855 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 1: because I don't think I would have ever said that. 856 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go listen. I'll listen to it and I'll 857 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: bring my bottle next week. Yeah, fair enough, All right, 858 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: we do have so much more to talk about what 859 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: we're out of time, but we are going to come 860 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: back for a Thursday episode and cover all that with hot, 861 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,359 Speaker 1: with with respect. Oh no, that's not what I'm trying 862 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 1: to say. With um, I don't know what I'm trying 863 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: to say, but I don't think it's right that this 864 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 1: whole podcast we just want to hear from you, your story, 865 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: so the other stuff gets bumped Thursday. Do you know 866 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to I don't know what you're trying 867 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: to say. What's gonna reason? That's what I'm trying to say. 868 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: Good job? Oh that's hard. Alright on that tired, exhausted note, 869 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 1: We will see you on Thursday for more chat. Thank 870 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,439 Speaker 1: you all so much. I from the bottom of my heart, 871 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 1: I will never be able to form. The scrubbers were awesome. 872 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: How the scrubbers are Yeah, just just next level, next level. 873 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 1: They well that there's a reason that was my first 874 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 1: place I stopped when the video came out. So for sure, UM, 875 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: I love you all. I hope you have a great 876 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: week and we'll be back Thursday. By