1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space. 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Now, I'm not here to double dutch around faith. Either 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 2: you say you believe what you sing in these songs 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: every Sunday and every Thursday, or you don't. 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration, 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: or a fresh perspective. If you have any AHA moments 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: or appreciate anything from this episode, please leave us a 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: review to let us know we're on the right track. 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I 35 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 5: hope to see you there all right, lady. 36 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 4: Today we have a very special guest in Cultivating her Space. 37 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 4: She's a Nigerian American Emmy nominated actress, comedian, and writer, 38 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 4: and in her new faith based advice book Bamboozo by Jesus, 39 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 4: How God Tricked Me into the Life of My Dreams, 40 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 4: she shows us what it's like to love God wholeheartedly, 41 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: maintain a swag, and live life abundantly. On television, she 42 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 4: stars in HBO's critically acclaimed comedy series and Secure. A 43 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 4: distinguished stand up comedian, Yvonne previously opened for Chris Rock 44 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 4: on various stops of his Total Blackout Tour and head 45 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 4: her first comedy tour, Legos to Laurel at. 46 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: The top of twenty twenty. 47 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 4: You can currently see her in the Hulu film Vacation 48 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 4: Friends alongside Loral. 49 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: All Right, all right, evonn Orgy, welcome to cultivating her space. 50 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 6: How you all do it? I was like, she got everything. 51 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 6: You can also watch a comedy Sprostaurant on HBO Max 52 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 6: My mom made it. Yes, Yes, I love it. 53 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: Yes, We're so happy to have you here. 54 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 7: I'm excited to be here. I'm loving y'all can't see 55 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 7: the background, But she got. 56 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 6: The NL I rides. I was like, is that a mural? 57 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 6: Does she take that? 58 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: Is that? 59 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out She's in the garden of 60 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: Eden and I'm trying to figure out how she got 61 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: the fault installation in her backyard. 62 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 6: But it's cool. I'n't taking no. 63 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: Thank you girl. 64 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: Oh I love it. I love it. So we're gonna 65 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: go into our quote of the day. So Yvonne, you 66 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: will recognize this quote of the day because these are 67 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: your words. 68 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 6: Hey, let's go. 69 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: God has custom designed your life to magnificent, and by default, 70 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 3: the magnificent is uncertain, daring, and downright scary. 71 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 6: I love that quote. 72 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: So before I like put my spend and my interpretation 73 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: on it, those are your words. 74 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 8: So I want to hear from you for. 75 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: Those folks who haven't checked out your book yet, because 76 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: that's where we found it, right, that's where that quote 77 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 3: comes from. So for folks who haven't checked out your 78 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 3: book yet, what inspired this particular quote? 79 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, So for the folks who have to check out 80 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 6: the book, Okay, that's. 81 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: Coming your local wherever you get books at and order 82 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 2: bamboos aboces. 83 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 6: Yet really where what where that came from? 84 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: Is a lot of times when we think of like 85 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: I want to do something amazing, I want to do magnificent, 86 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: I want to do I'm think dope, and it's like, ye, 87 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: recognize what comes with that because a lot of times 88 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: it sounds it sounds good and it is going to 89 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: be good, but we don't understand that, Like, you know, 90 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: the magnificent if everybody could if everybody was walking in magnificence. 91 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: It cost something to walk in the magnificence. It cast something. 92 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: I think people were just like, yeah, I want to pop, 93 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: and it's like, no, it cost something. Nobody is an 94 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 2: overnight success. Nobody, even the people that you just found 95 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: out about, it cost them something for you to just 96 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: be finding him about them. 97 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 6: Like I think of D nine, like. 98 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: G Nice has been to DJ four forever, okay forever 99 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: and quarantine. He just did what he's always been doing 100 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: and it just so happened that it was a right 101 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: time and it was a right space. And I mean 102 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: his life has literally like exponentially increased to be magnificent. 103 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 6: But he've been here, He've been here before y'all. He's 104 00:05:58,920 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 6: been around. 105 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 7: Y'all just didn't know about him because while y'all were 106 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 7: doing your thing, he was grinding. 107 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: And doing his thing and just putting one foot in 108 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: front of the or the other. And like I think 109 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 2: people don't when I say it's downright daring, it's risky. 110 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: I think people take that out of it because saying 111 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: like I want something to be dope, I want something 112 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: to be amazing, I want something in magnificent again, they 113 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: don't think that requires sacrifice. 114 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 6: They don't think that requires. 115 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: Gangstar needs, and especially when you add faith into it, 116 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 2: it's just like, but God, like. 117 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 6: This shouldn't be this hardest, Like who's who said? 118 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: One? Okay? 119 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 6: Because one person about you as because I have I 120 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 6: have the message and it breaks it very much down. 121 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 6: It's like, in this world you will have trouble. 122 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: I don't know how how much plainer that needs to be. 123 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 2: I don't know how much more of a straight shooter. 124 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: But he was like, take heart because I overcame the world. 125 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 7: But I think people are like, well, that don't apply 126 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 7: to me, or how much trouble you know? 127 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 6: Haven't I had enough trouble? It's like you don't. 128 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: You don't get to put the beginning and the end 129 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: to your trouble. Like that's not that's not and that's 130 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: kind of not mine his work. So that that was 131 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: where I was when I wrote that quote, because I 132 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: think people think that the road that they're living when 133 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: it gets hard, that it means there's an attack, or 134 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: it means that they're doing something wrong, or it means 135 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: that this isn't what God. 136 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 6: Has for them, And it's just like, no, this is 137 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 6: just part of the journey. 138 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: That is such a good point. That is such a 139 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: good point. 140 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 4: I do want to say that our weekend was kind 141 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 4: of like Yvonne org weekend because we were watching a 142 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 4: movie reading your book. Look, just doing all the research, right, 143 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: doing all the low key stock and or whatever. And 144 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 4: so in your forward, your book is amazing, by the way, 145 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 4: and I loved it you read the. 146 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: Book for your audio book. 147 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 4: I love when authors do that, because it felt like 148 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 4: we were having a conversation like hey girl, you know 149 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 4: and so yeah, in your forward you share a jaw 150 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 4: dropping story. I mean, you got us in the first 151 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 4: sentence of the foreword where we were like, oh, I'm 152 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: definitely going to tune in where you're talking about how 153 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: you were born holding your mom's IUD and how that 154 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: was your first taste of being bamboozed by Jesus. 155 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: So, aside from your birth. 156 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: Can you talk to us about what were some of 157 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 4: the other or maybe what was the most surprising bamboozomen 158 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 4: in your life? 159 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, outside of that, because that is an opening right there. 160 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I. 161 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: Don't it doesn't get much more games than I was 162 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: there holding my mom's how you need my head? I 163 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: feel like SLI that was when Celi got bamboos like 164 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: y'all try to get me away. 165 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, y'all, y'all thought you. 166 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: Was done like it was. So I think my mama 167 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: got bam boosom for sure on that one. But I 168 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: tell that story in there because the thing that you 169 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: weren't expecting, or the thing that you thought was over with, 170 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: that's what God would come at you with the Oki 171 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: dog and you'd be like, wait this, Like you know 172 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 2: so many people have, Oh, I just make cakes for 173 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: my friends on their birthdays, and it's like, yes, also you're. 174 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 6: Supposed to open the bakery, Like wait what you know 175 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 6: what I mean? 176 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: It's it's the bamboozomen that comes from like, surely this 177 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: thing that's easy, that comes supernaturally to me, I can't 178 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: make millions of dollars from that. And it's like, actually, 179 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: that's the thing. And so then in those cases you 180 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: have that it's not the talent that's the hindrance. It's 181 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: the belief that the talent is worthy enough for you know, 182 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 2: people to buy into it. 183 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 6: And so then it's like, come on, because I've run 184 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 6: into people. It's funny. In the last year, I heard 185 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 6: somebody say like, as a Nigerian. 186 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: We are so like success is the only option. Failure 187 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: is not, like it's just if we just keep going. 188 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: And I heard somebody say for the first time, like, 189 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: I know people who are afraid of failure. I've never 190 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: met somebody who was afraid of success. 191 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 6: And I was like what. 192 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: And I met her and I was just like, huh. 193 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: I literally it was like, I need you to break 194 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 2: it down from me because I don't. I don't know 195 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: what you mean. And she was just like, it's just 196 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: like if you're successful, like what does that look like? 197 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 2: And then like what does that mean when like you're 198 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: the successful in your family. 199 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 6: I'm like things that I never thought of. 200 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 2: Like I was like, let me just be successful. We 201 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 2: figured out we figured out the rest later. But for her, 202 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: it was just like I don't I'm nervous. I'm scared 203 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: of being so amazing. 204 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 6: And I was like, oh my god, And you know, 205 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 6: and she. 206 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: Is amazing in every way. She performing by the grace 207 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 2: of God. She's leaned into her talents and she's like, 208 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: you know, quit her job and she's now an entrepreneur 209 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: and she's boring. But it was such a moment of 210 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: vulnerability and it's such an eye opening moment for me 211 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: because I was like, I never experienced this other version, 212 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 2: but living in it, it's kind of like I understand 213 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: what she means because I'm living in it, and all 214 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: those problems that she alluded to exists, but they were 215 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: never the thing that was going to keep me from 216 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: still being successful, you know what I mean. 217 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,599 Speaker 6: I don't know if I'm if I'm being care or 218 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 6: making them in that way. 219 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 2: It was just like, oh, people really stop shy of 220 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: success because of the things that come with us. 221 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 6: Now, let me give me sussful. Then we're gonna figure 222 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 6: out how to deal with those things. Right. 223 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: I crossed that bridge when I get there. 224 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: And so in my bambusam and for me, I was 225 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: just like afraid of rejection. 226 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 6: I was just afraid of like, don't don't make a 227 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 6: fool out of me? God right. 228 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: And so when he told me after I, you know, 229 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: while I'm in the middle of a get my master's 230 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 2: degree to enter a beauty pathet and do comedy as 231 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: my talent, I was like, wait, what not the chick 232 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: who was bullied for most of her you know, childhood 233 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: and so still suffers from people please and still suffers 234 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: from like fear of rejection, like you want me to 235 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: put myself on a stage where the first thing people 236 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: do if you're not funny is boo. 237 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 6: How did that work? I don't want it nothing. We good? 238 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 8: You get that? 239 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: And had I got saved my freshman year of college, 240 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: I was seventeen, so by the time the project came around, 241 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: I was twenty between two. And God was like, yo, 242 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm really not going back and forth with 243 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: you on this. I'm not and I'm not here to 244 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: double dutch around faith. Either you say you believe what 245 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: you sing in these songs every Sunday and every. 246 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 6: Thursday, or you don't. 247 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: And so let me know now, because I'm really looking 248 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: for soldiers and I thought you was one, and so 249 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: if you not like it's cool, I'm gonna just find 250 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: somebody else. 251 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 6: And I was like, oh, first of all, I don't 252 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 6: like your tone. 253 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: Second of all, like you got to give me a 254 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: second to think about it, like you know, I'm gonna 255 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: do what you tell me to do, but I need 256 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: a moment, a process, fan like. 257 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 6: What does this mean? 258 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: And I think when I just sit down the process, 259 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: it was like. 260 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 6: You know in that moment where you were just like 261 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 6: maybe he knows more about me than I know about it, 262 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 6: and I had to leave. I have to really talk 263 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 6: to it. It was a faith walk. I was just like, yo, 264 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 6: what what does he know? And I'm writing the book. 265 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 7: It's like when Mary goes up to Jesuss like yo, 266 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 7: they ran in the line and he was like, what 267 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 7: I got to do with me? 268 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 6: The time of the hour has not come? 269 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: And she was like cool, cool, cool cool, And she 270 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: just goes straight to the disciples like, yo, whatever he 271 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: seld you to do it? 272 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 6: And it's like, well, well that's not what he said. 273 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 6: He didn't say you were gonna do nothing. 274 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: He said why you why are you telling me about 275 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 2: this this wedding? 276 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 6: That's that's whack right now. And she was like oh okay. 277 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: And I was like there is something she knew. And 278 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: I think once we get to the place where like 279 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: there's something we got to know about God that he 280 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: may not outright say, but there's something you know that 281 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: we may not know, but lean into that and it's 282 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: kind of like you know, everybody has a parent or 283 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: a parent figure and it's just like you know when 284 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 2: they give you a. 285 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 6: Look, it's like I don't know. I mean, she on 286 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 6: the phone, but she gave me a look. I'm I'm 287 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 6: gonna say that look is don't bother me right now 288 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 6: because I hang up. 289 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: It's not gonna end well for you. So they didn't 290 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: have to say anything. They didn't have to say anything, 291 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: but you there's something you knew about your relationship with 292 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: that parent figure. 293 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 6: And it's like our wisdom cried out, and. 294 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 2: Wisdom told me, I don't want to get beat, so 295 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: let me respect myself. 296 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I love that. 297 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: What I appreciate is how you in your book and 298 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: even in this conversation right now, like I am loving 299 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 3: how you are taking your how you use your faith, 300 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 3: and you really integrate that into every conversation. And it's 301 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 3: not a conversation where like you know where some folks 302 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: are in a space where they feel as if the 303 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 3: person you are talking to is pushing religion on them. 304 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 3: And but what's so beautiful about speaking with you is 305 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: that you make it so relatable, right, Like you use 306 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: those real life examples that every one of us, like, 307 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: if we really step back and think about it, we 308 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 3: it makes sense we can identify. I would say, if 309 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: it's not us, then we know somebody who did it right, 310 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: and so this is clearly your passion, this is your gift, 311 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 3: this is your talent. 312 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 6: Right. 313 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 8: What was it like to really have. 314 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: This conversation with your parents about. 315 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 6: Mama, this is what I'm about to do. Yeah, I 316 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 6: mean it wasn't easy. It wasn't and and here's it 317 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 6: wasn't easy for a lot of reasons. Right. It wasn't 318 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 6: easy because there was no path. Right. It wasn't like 319 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 6: I can be like, so I'm gonna make people laugh 320 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 6: for a living. 321 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: Around month ten is gonna pop, and then around year 322 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: two is really gonna pop. 323 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 6: And they give it like four years and. 324 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: Like there's no there's no pathway, right, So and there 325 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: there your immigrant parents who came here to give us 326 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: a pathway. 327 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 6: Right. They were like, you're gonna come here, you're gonna 328 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 6: go to school, you're gonna. 329 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: Get a good job, you're gonna retire for us, Like 330 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: this is our path Like we know, we know this 331 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: blueprint very well, and now you're just throwing a whole 332 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: in a blueprint and. 333 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 6: We also don't know and then you don't have. 334 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: A blueprint for the whole that you're throwing into our blueprint. 335 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: So what kind of sense that mad we sacrifice? Now 336 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: you're taking us all the way back because now you're 337 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: saying you want to sacrifice house way. 338 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 339 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: It's just like, no, you can't have two generations and sacrificers. 340 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 6: But I and I honestly didn't have. 341 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of times we want We are 342 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: a generation that likes to have like our jubts in them, bro, 343 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: we want to be able to It's kind of like 344 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: I like to say, I don't need an inciting incident. 345 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 6: To no longer be in relationship with people, because sometimes 346 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 6: people like are. 347 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: Looking for an exciting incident like okay, well why well 348 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: did they do something? It's like, I mean, I don't 349 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: want to get to the point where they did something. 350 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: My spirits, it's my intuition is saying something is off, 351 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: and before we get to an inciting incident, which means 352 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: that it's probably going to be irrepairable, let's just say, hey, 353 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: somelf a little bit and I and that's okay. We 354 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: can trust that some things off and maybe we're not 355 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: being honest with what that is. And I can't force 356 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: anyone to do that. So how have I wes, just 357 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: take a time out, and if nothing is wrong, we'll 358 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 2: rund our way back to he says, when we're keeping 359 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 2: the door of love and grace and goodness open. 360 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 6: But people are like they have those feelings. 361 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 2: And it's like I'm her and it's like, why no, now, 362 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: it's just negative energy. 363 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 6: Just now. 364 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 5: I was like, you never. 365 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 2: Wack, and so I just I don't I didn't have 366 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't, I don't know. 367 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 6: I don't have an answer. 368 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 2: I don't have anything other than I know I don't 369 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: want to be the thing that you all want me 370 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 2: to be that much. 371 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 6: I know. 372 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: I really don't know what this road is going to do. 373 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: But I do know that I want to explore. And 374 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: you know, there's a chapter of the book called faith 375 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: is fears, food poisoning, but regret as her bees. 376 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 6: And I say that because you know, fear, Yeah, I had. 377 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: I was afraid to tell my parents, like I don't 378 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: be a doctor, all right, what. 379 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 6: You want to be? I don't know yet what that 380 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 6: doesn't like? 381 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: That is that's crazy and that sounds like you're on 382 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 2: crack and you're unhinged. 383 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 6: But I just was like, you know, I do know 384 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 6: that God depositive. 385 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: The seed into me, and I just want to see 386 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,239 Speaker 2: how far it'll grow. And if it never grows, at 387 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 2: least I can say with certainty. I try to think 388 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: I could always go back to school, you know what 389 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 390 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 6: But the great thing got that I got enough time 391 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 6: and enough days. I can do the thing. I can 392 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 6: figure something else out. 393 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: But what if there was something here and I didn't 394 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: do it, Like, in the back of my mind, that's 395 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: not that's that's that's you know, regret. 396 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 6: That turns into herpes because you can, you can downplay it, 397 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 6: you can put on an ointment, you can, you know, 398 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 6: but then you don't get a flare up. And at 399 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 6: some point that flare gonna be you looking at somebody 400 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 6: living in your dream and being mad and there's nothing 401 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 6: you can do about it. 402 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 2: And so yeah, it wasn't easy to be like, hey, 403 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: I'm my dad, I'm crushing your dreams. 404 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 6: But let's see, but that's the be being in America. 405 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, in hindsight, I'm actually doing the thing that 406 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 2: you all came to America for me to do, exactly 407 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: because they didn't know that that was a possibility and 408 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: actually needed to die. But I met God along the way, 409 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 2: and he showed me more than you knew and more 410 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 2: than I knew, and I'm glad I listened. And now 411 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 2: I think they would say, I'm really glad you listened 412 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 2: to I know. 413 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 4: That's right, and you got your two degrees along the 414 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 4: way too, which was amazing. 415 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: So I'm like, go ahead, girl. 416 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 6: And then all the time I said, these degrees don't expire. 417 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: They don't. 418 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 6: They don't mean I may need a booster shot like this, like. 419 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: Coronavirus there, like like what's going on in the world today. 420 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 6: If I ever needed to tap back in like I'm 421 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 6: know ing up, I know, and that's enough. 422 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 4: I will say you are in good company today because 423 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 4: doctor Dom and myself we are recovering perfectionists. 424 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: You'd like to say we're in recovery. 425 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 6: Yes, And even. 426 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 4: Though we're in recovery, we're still working progress. So what 427 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 4: has been one of the most useful strategies that you 428 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 4: and your therapist have worked on when it comes to 429 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 4: you combating perfectionist perfectionism? 430 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: So I know you've talked about this before. 431 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 6: Yes, And I talked about get in the book. 432 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 2: It is this thing of letting go because like you 433 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: also choke out the fun and stuff when you're trying 434 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: to be a perfectionist. 435 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 7: Like there's God works best when you leave room in 436 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 7: the middle of whatever it is that you're doing for 437 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 7: spontaneity and curiosity and for him to it's kind of 438 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 7: like I say, like this, if Abraham was going to 439 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 7: sacrifice Isaac and. 440 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: He was like, yo, I want to be a perfect 441 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 2: man of God. I want to have perfect faith, and 442 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 2: he heard God say okay, now find you a ramed 443 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 2: of us. 444 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 6: And people's like, no, that's that's the opposite of perfect. 445 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 6: I am. 446 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: I got Jesus, he's not schizophrenic, so I know God 447 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: is not schizophrenic. So I'm gonna sacrifice this job and 448 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 2: I know you're gonna get you know, my boo thing. 449 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: Another one he lost out on having his son because 450 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: that's what perfectionism is perfect. 451 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 6: I'm gonna do it my way. It's gonna be great, 452 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 6: and it's gonna be that, and it's just like or 453 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 6: you know what, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do 454 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 6: my all. Hey God, Hey, I'm checking back in, Like 455 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 6: what do you think about that? Like I really like 456 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 6: that color? 457 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 2: But what about okay, you know you're right, because somebody 458 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: else has that colt, so I don't want there to 459 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 2: be confusion in the marketplace. That was really good, Okay, cool, 460 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: I'm glad. I'm glad that I checked it with you. 461 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 6: Okay cool. 462 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: So like it's like you have the conversation and now 463 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: I'm I'm silly enough to bring God into multiple asset, 464 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: Like that's a real conversation. 465 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 6: I'm like, God, what should I want on this date? 466 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: You're right, I don't want to go too thirsty? Cool, 467 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: let me let me go this other one. And it's 468 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: just and it's just keeping it real. It's just keeping 469 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 2: it real. Or sometimes it's like eing this what this 470 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 2: whole time? Like lit this all right? 471 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 9: You know what you because I am a little thing 472 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 9: now okay, cool, let me get this joint Like it 473 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 9: goes both ways, Like it's not it's him just being like, listen, 474 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 9: you said you wanted to try somethinue, so why don't 475 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 9: you try this? 476 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 2: Think And it's like I will do that. And perfectionism 477 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 2: requires just rigidity, right, It's like I made a plan, 478 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: I've set a goal. I want to do it, and 479 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 2: for I think a. 480 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 6: Period in our life there is a. 481 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: Version where being a perfectionist helps, but it's not sustainable, right, 482 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: And I think in every I think in everything, anytime 483 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: you go to extremes, it's never great. When people were like, 484 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: I'm typed a and I was like, okay, well that 485 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 2: that's not great either, you know what I mean. Like 486 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: it's helpful, it's good that you're a planner, it's good 487 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: that you are able to like put the distance in play. 488 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 6: But like when do you have fun? You know, it's 489 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 6: just like okay, well when do you balance that with 490 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 6: something else? 491 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: Right? 492 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: And so I think for me realizing that like my 493 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 2: perfectionism was actually tied to like needing to be in control. 494 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 6: Needing to like have everything in order and in line. 495 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 6: And it's like I can't let anything drop. 496 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 2: And it's like, but now you got you gotta shoulder problems, 497 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 2: enough problems because you've. 498 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 6: Been holding everything up. It was just like what I 499 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 6: remember my my therapist one time, she was like, I 500 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 6: want you to be messy. And I was like, why 501 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,479 Speaker 6: would I Why would I do that? Like that's the 502 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 6: wrong advice. 503 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 2: And she was like, no, I want you to messy. 504 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 2: I was like, but there are consequences to be messy. 505 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: And she was like okay, and it was like, I 506 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 2: don't understand. I thought people were supposed to live lives 507 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 2: that aren't complicated, like you know what I mean. But 508 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 2: she was just like, I mean what, It's not like 509 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: you're gonna go hide here and stab somebody. 510 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 6: Like, I'm not telling you to do something ridiculous. 511 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you to like leave room for things 512 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 2: to not go exactly as planned, and then deal with 513 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: those consequences, good. 514 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 6: Or bad, when they are as. 515 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: Exactly. 516 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: She just said, I'll have to find another therapy. 517 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 3: My favorite about it, My favorite question is what's the 518 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 3: worst that can happen? 519 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 6: And when you think about. 520 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: What's the worst that could happen, chances are is not 521 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 3: that bad after all. 522 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 6: But it's not. 523 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 2: The thing about it is you actually really don't have 524 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: an answer to what the worst that can happen is 525 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 2: because you're the reality is the people who are answering 526 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: that question, they're creating the worst that can happen. They're like, well, 527 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: then what is And it's just like, well, what evidence 528 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: do you have to show that that could happen? 529 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 3: I mean exactly, not an option, exactly exactly. And that's 530 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: what I asked the question because they can't. Once they 531 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: answer it, You're exactly right, they realize, Oh, either one 532 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 3: I make like I'm really making exaggerating how bad this 533 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 3: will really be, or I am fully capable of dealing 534 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: with whatever gets presented to me. 535 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. 536 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, Now we want to we want to shift up 537 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 4: the energy of this interview a little bit. 538 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: Okay, shifted up a little bit. 539 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 4: And because we recognize, appreciate, and celebrate the multifaceted woman, 540 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 4: and we believe that it's okay to be classy and ratchet. 541 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: It's okay to be That's what we talk about. 542 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 4: And see, we believe that you can be elegant and 543 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 4: you can dance the strip club music. And so we 544 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 4: want to invite you to the oh you clatch it segment? 545 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 4: So do you take on the challenge? 546 00:25:55,080 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 6: Oh you clatch it? Okay, let's let's not any well 547 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 6: for one of us. So let's see you. 548 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: Well, maybe we should just start off with the real 549 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: juicy one. 550 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 4: So we've heard through the grapevine that your stripper name 551 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 4: would be Chocolate Testimony. 552 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: Okay, because I'm dropping it low and dropping that word like, 553 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 2: do you know him? 554 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 6: Do you know him? 555 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 10: Though? 556 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 6: Oh my god, okay, So you gotta do sagers with me? 557 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 6: Loa yeah, okay. 558 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: So what would your walk up song be? 559 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 6: Oh, testimony to the stage? 560 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: What's song? 561 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 4: The plan? 562 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 6: Drop it? Loawe Jesus that is epic? 563 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: Okay, might drop I love it. 564 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 2: I mean if you won't drop it, he said, whatever 565 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 2: you do, do it in the name, and so I'm like, yeah, 566 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 2: drop it, Jesus, okay. 567 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 6: Probably. 568 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 3: So I think that chocolate testimony, I think that already 569 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 3: answers our next question. But we're gonna go on ahead 570 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 3: with it, all right, So chalcolate testimony, Are you gonna 571 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 3: twirk or two steps? 572 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 6: I'm a body road, I'm a body up on us, Yes, 573 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 6: body road. You know you gotta you gotta protect your 574 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 6: your your knees and your back. You know, saying you're right. 575 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 6: Distribute is a hard life, you know out here you 576 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 6: gotta make sure to make sure you are right, that 577 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 6: is right, you know, protect your core, protect your knee 578 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 6: and your back. 579 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 8: Yes. 580 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 4: Now, what's the most significant decision you've made in the 581 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 4: past year? 582 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 3: To do? 583 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: Left? 584 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 6: That was hard to I'm not gonna find. 585 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: But I'm, like I said in the books, and I 586 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: feel like I got a baby on my back and 587 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: you know, I'm running up here like I like, I. 588 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 6: Can't do it, no problem, Like actually I want to 589 00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,239 Speaker 6: do it. 590 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: And it's not because you know, I grew up in 591 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: a culture that's very performative, right, it's very like love 592 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 2: is performed, is performative, Like we would like you if 593 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: you do this, you know, and then I'm just like dang, 594 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 2: like so then it's just like you keeps you in 595 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: the rat race of doing and giving and being and 596 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: performing and achieving and excelling. 597 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 6: And it's like other than. 598 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: For what though, Like if I got to do all 599 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: that to be loved or accepted, it's like I need 600 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: a different version of that or or to feel appreciated 601 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 2: or accepted by myself. 602 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 6: It's like no, like I'm enough, Like he died, he 603 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 6: shed his blood on the cross, I'm good. 604 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: Like if I don't do nothing, you know we talking 605 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: about you don't do nothing else for. 606 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 6: Me, you don't know. 607 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: But it's just like we don't apply that to ourselves, 608 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: like if you don't do nothing else. 609 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 6: Like you Gucci, like you did it, like you've done 610 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 6: the hard things. I'm proud of you. 611 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: Like we don't talk to ourselves like that, and I 612 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: think that's unfair to ourselves. And so for me, I 613 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: just I hit a point where I'm like, well, I 614 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: haven't so many so often we wait. 615 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 6: For retirement to rest, and I was like, yeah, that's 616 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 6: gon gonna work. 617 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: I'm a rest now, I'm arrest. Now I can take 618 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: it back up later and keep going with I'm a rest. 619 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 6: We we're the only ones. 620 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: We don't do that with all cars, literally, like every 621 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: two thousand dollars we're getting into GIP like, so we 622 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: know we hit bold black where we got to go 623 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: get a oil change. You gotta rotate the tires. 624 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 6: We got to do that. 625 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: We're the only ones that be like at the end 626 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: of twenty years, I think I can finally take that 627 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 2: a vocations like, huh, what in our twenty years without 628 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: real team, why do we think we can go eight 629 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: months without rest, eight months out a vacation, eight months 630 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: without a massage, eight months without just having a lazy weekend, 631 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 2: Like I mean, I'm speaking of somebody who didn't know 632 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: what to do in stillness. 633 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 6: I was like lazy, And my therapist is like, do. 634 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: You feel lazy or is your body just finally in 635 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: the state of breath after almost a decade of work, 636 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 2: and I was like, I mean, I like the framing of. 637 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 6: That, but I do still feel lazy, like and it's 638 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 6: just like I have to rework my mind. 639 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 10: You know. 640 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: The Bible tells us like to transform my minds. And 641 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: the old version of me was like, as long as 642 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: you work, as long as you grind. It's like it 643 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 2: didn't say like, are you happy in the work that 644 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: you're doing? Are you happy in the grind that you're doing? 645 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 6: Are you killed? Are you It's just like, but I 646 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 6: got to be grinding. It's like, yeah, I mean I'm busy. 647 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 6: I'm sorry I can't come your event. 648 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: And it's like the busy, the sexiness, the business is 649 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: what keeps us going. And it's just like yeah, because 650 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: you know, once I've had this project, I got to 651 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: make sure I have another project to tell people that 652 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: I'm on. 653 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 6: And then it's like do I why don't I be 654 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 6: like I'm traveling and I'm happy. 655 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: Hey, when I get back, I'm sure i'll have another 656 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: job or I'll create I don't know yet, Like it's 657 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: just like I got off, like this is what we 658 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: worked hard. 659 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 6: For and then we're not even gonna take advantage of it. 660 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: How that work that is beautiful, so inspiring? 661 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 3: Do let yes, yes, rest, yes, definitely get we talk 662 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 3: about like from. 663 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 6: The foundation in the world. And seven day he was like, 664 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 6: all right, I'm gonna sap out. Y'all got this cool? 665 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: But we're like, yeah, but he can do that cause 666 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: he Jesus, But like I can't because my dad doesn't understand. 667 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 6: It's like, no, you haven't. 668 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: My past used to say, everything in life is trained 669 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: to be trained as a relationship. That's in work. That's 670 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: like you we are triumphanty training people on how to 671 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: receive us, on what we're gonna do and what we're 672 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 2: not gonna do, a vice versa. And if you make 673 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: rest and priorities, then people already know what to respect 674 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: when they get you. 675 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 6: You know, it's like, hey, guys, I fully committed to this. 676 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: When I am here the five days you get me 677 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: for these eight hours, I will give you my absolute 678 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: loop back and you will think I worked fourteen hours. 679 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 6: However, I'm gonna give it to you grade. 680 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 7: So you know what I mean. 681 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 6: Just like now, I don't know if you can do that. 682 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: You have a job. 683 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 6: That's why I'm so god bless y'all. But I do 684 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 6: feel like you know, but I think it's the same 685 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,239 Speaker 6: way like with me. I get asked all the time, like, Yo, 686 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 6: how are you able to you know, still love God 687 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 6: and be. 688 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: An actress in Hollywood? And I'm like, I didn't know 689 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 2: how to choose because I trained people to know that 690 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: you don't get both. You don't get you don't get 691 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: this loved Jesus and you don't get this bomb actress. 692 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 10: I don't. 693 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 6: I don't know how to separate it too, because like, 694 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 6: he the only reason. 695 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: Why you know me so, But at the same time, 696 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: I'm not like and then Jesus said, because that's crazy. 697 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 6: I don't. I'm not perfect God bless the people who are. 698 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: I don't. 699 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 6: That's not a relationship week that's not you. Yep. I 700 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 6: can't be me. I don't want it to DV. Honestly, 701 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 6: I'm like, if you know that I love him by now, 702 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 6: then I don't know what you've been doing. I don't 703 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 6: have to, like, I don't have to beat it over 704 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 6: the head. But like my book is so by Jesus. 705 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: So there we go. 706 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 3: So, Yvonne, we have one more question for you, potentially, Okay, 707 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: what's the one question or topic you wish people asked 708 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 3: you about more often. 709 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 6: I don't know that I have a thing. I don't 710 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 6: know that I have the things. I'm like, you know, 711 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 6: why didn't nobody ask me that? I don't know. 712 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: It's funny because I've been doing press for Vacation First 713 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 2: and there's a the where Oh no, it it was that, 714 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 2: but this impressed Vacation Pregnant the. 715 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 6: Book, and we were talking about like, you know, people 716 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 6: just know either what to expect or what not to do. 717 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I mean nobody has ever 718 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 2: offered me cocaine, Like I don't know why, Like nobody's 719 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: ever offered me just hard heroin nobody and not that 720 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: I wanted, but it's just that thing of I think 721 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 2: what I was talking about was, you know, Christians being 722 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 2: so afraid to go into places that. 723 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 6: Are not so homo geniusly Christian and ass like, well, 724 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 6: what's the fear? Like what's the beer? 725 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 10: Because I'm like, like it's easy to be Christian amongst 726 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 10: other Christians, like like if you're so full of what 727 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 10: you already know, like you can you can navigate spaces 728 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 10: that and then. 729 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 2: You bring you bring you into it, not to say 730 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 2: you got to come in and proposize, but like what's 731 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: the beer? 732 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 6: You know what I mean? Like when I go no 733 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 6: one's be like, hey, you want to do something? Like 734 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 6: no one's ever asking that, you know. 735 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 2: What I mean. 736 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 6: And it's like I don't have to go in there 737 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 6: and be like what I'm not gonna do. It's like 738 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 6: you don't have to do all that. It's like the 739 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 6: essence and the aura who you are shows up before. 740 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: You do that. 741 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 6: I think it's just interesting a. 742 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: Lot of times when you unique Christians and it's just like, man, 743 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 2: you know my pastors just said they're so heavenly focused 744 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 2: that they're no earthly goods, and it's just like that 745 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 2: sucks because it's like, man, you could you could actually 746 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 2: do so much more for the kingdom if you were 747 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: like acceptable, you know, if you were if you were 748 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: actually someone that people could come to and be. 749 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 6: Like, hey, I had it question by faith and I 750 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 6: don't know, maybe a stupid question, but what do you 751 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 6: think about good and giving a real, like human answer, right. 752 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 2: I think so many times in church we give like 753 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: the church answer, we get the thing that like you 754 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 2: want to make God. 755 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 6: Proud with the answer. It's like, look like yeah, human, 756 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 6: I think right for me. 757 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 2: I mean, so many church people, but not so many 758 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 2: people who are in relationship with God, and there's a difference. 759 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: There's a difference that is so amazing. We just want 760 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: to thank you so much for your wisdom and your 761 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: energy and just your spirit. Evon. 762 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 4: You are such a beautiful person and we know that 763 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 4: you are going to go far and reach all your 764 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 4: goals because of the energy that you have. So we'd 765 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 4: love for you to tell our listeners where they can 766 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 4: find you, what to look out for, and how they 767 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 4: can support you right now in your life. 768 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, Simmy, Well, thank you for having me again. 769 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 2: I do want that bad drop and I do want 770 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: all your edges and the bunds like I want everything 771 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 2: that's going with what I'm talking about you too, So anyway, 772 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 2: you can. 773 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 6: Find me on all social media at von org. 774 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 2: You can find the book Bamboozoo by Jesus on Amazon, Barns, Noble, 775 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: your local small business, your local bookstore, Black owned. You 776 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 2: go to Bambooo by Jesus dot com. We actually have 777 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 2: a directory of like different places the book. Yeah, I 778 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: think that's about it. You can find my comedy special 779 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 2: My Mom made It on HBO Max. You can find 780 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 2: Vacation Friends on the movie on Hulu. You can find 781 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 2: season five and Secure on HBO coming out this October. 782 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 2: You don't know what date yet, but this October. And yeah, 783 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 2: look at how other stuff that I'm doing. 784 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 3: Hey lady, it's doctor dom here from the Cultivating her 785 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 3: Space podcast. 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