1
00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,480
Speaker 1: When you first got to the league.

2
00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,320
Speaker 2: Who was the first person to like bust your ass,

3
00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:06,600
Speaker 2: like just the level.

4
00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,799
Speaker 3: Man when first I was always a pretty good defender.

5
00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,200
Speaker 3: I came in, I was really good defender, and I

6
00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,120
Speaker 3: was locking a few people up. But like Jerry Stockhouse,

7
00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,840
Speaker 3: Early was tough, Grant Hills, but Seon Lennon.

8
00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,800
Speaker 1: Was the first person. That's crazy, I see, thank you,

9
00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,160
Speaker 1: thank you ass.

10
00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:31,600
Speaker 3: It's nice.

11
00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:32,960
Speaker 1: He was a bucket.

12
00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,880
Speaker 3: Definitely. Remember his moves in the post. It was really

13
00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,159
Speaker 3: hard to guard him because he had every he can

14
00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,760
Speaker 3: turn right, you know, and he was big a little bit. Yeah,

15
00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,720
Speaker 3: he had shot, he can shoot. Yeah, So I remember

16
00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,320
Speaker 3: him like I remember having problems with him, and uh,

17
00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,960
Speaker 3: I guess Early Mashburn we came in, I came to

18
00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,159
Speaker 3: the mash Burn still.

19
00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,400
Speaker 1: Man, still bust my ass.

20
00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:54,959
Speaker 3: He was still good.

21
00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,360
Speaker 2: You want this athletic he can get a bucket time

22
00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:00,920
Speaker 2: he wanted to.

23
00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,120
Speaker 3: Definitely he was. He's like a real small bud. I

24
00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,360
Speaker 3: guess almost like Mellow maybe. I mean they both shoot

25
00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,080
Speaker 3: different forms, different but like they had they can shoot

26
00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,760
Speaker 3: and they can move and yeah Mashallow bounce, yeah.

27
00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yo, knuckleheads coming at you live on location in

28
00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:24,400
Speaker 4: Los Angeles, California, me D Miles, We got the man ron.

29
00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,399
Speaker 5: Ron a ka Meadoworld, peace a.

30
00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:33,280
Speaker 4: K A too strong, a k A defensive. Yeah, rock

31
00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,880
Speaker 4: with the boys. Man, appreciate your man with us. So

32
00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,760
Speaker 4: good to be here to take it out.

33
00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,240
Speaker 1: Man. You know we about to talk. It's your boys,

34
00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,120
Speaker 1: Q Rich.

35
00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,560
Speaker 3: And D Miles challenge to the podcast season two.

36
00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,840
Speaker 1: And how we're thinking what we do Like.

37
00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,400
Speaker 2: It's just like, how did y'all come up with that?

38
00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,760
Speaker 2: This thing on little scripted We kind of just get

39
00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:55,160
Speaker 2: into it.

40
00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,920
Speaker 5: We come from an authentic old geek standpoint.

41
00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,440
Speaker 1: You weren't winning with just one star player.

42
00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,440
Speaker 5: This is a story that people don't know this.

43
00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,640
Speaker 1: Dude, have my shoes on right, he just talking hot mess.

44
00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,880
Speaker 3: You know we were just young and wanted to prove

45
00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,839
Speaker 3: ourselves and you were in the way. It's nice man

46
00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:21,800
Speaker 3: brought me some honey. Yeah, it's a gra Gravefield, Gravefield, Gravefield, Gravefield, Gravefield, Gravefield.

47
00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,000
Speaker 3: What do you think about the money these days?

48
00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:27,920
Speaker 1: I was.

49
00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,000
Speaker 4: About five years I'm saying, like, I'm happy, I'm not

50
00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:34,679
Speaker 4: wanting them dudes.

51
00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,680
Speaker 2: The boys get you can understand that playing no more.

52
00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,920
Speaker 2: You can understand it. Not like what Mike now was

53
00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,560
Speaker 2: trying of saying about us.

54
00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,239
Speaker 5: Or or pay your respect, but we made so for.

55
00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,720
Speaker 2: All, Like I can see how it made it to

56
00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,960
Speaker 2: the word said we can't pay more than baseball players.

57
00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,600
Speaker 1: Now they gotta sign like ten.

58
00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,560
Speaker 2: Years to get I'm happy for him, sign of them

59
00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,760
Speaker 2: for your deals. I'm that's dang.

60
00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:04,440
Speaker 1: Hard.

61
00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,400
Speaker 3: They're playing with more money in sports now than it

62
00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:09,680
Speaker 3: was when we came in. But look what we're doing

63
00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,079
Speaker 3: right now, Like you know, money, like just by being

64
00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,520
Speaker 3: basketball players. It's like crazy, right if you put your

65
00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,760
Speaker 3: mind or something in basketball, when you retire, now you

66
00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,080
Speaker 3: can still get bread. It's like amazing. People always told me,

67
00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,200
Speaker 3: like the ball can take you far. I don't know

68
00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:24,560
Speaker 3: if you hear that.

69
00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:31,040
Speaker 4: I say that literally that's our life right now. That

70
00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,600
Speaker 4: little ones it took us all around the.

71
00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:34,680
Speaker 1: World the world.

72
00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,040
Speaker 3: You pay, still pay.

73
00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,480
Speaker 1: Still providing, Like no matter what you want, people.

74
00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,040
Speaker 2: Will never see nothing that we have seen and we'll

75
00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,480
Speaker 2: never see the sceneries the.

76
00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, forget about the money, the experiences.

77
00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,920
Speaker 1: I know him because of the ball. If it was

78
00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:58,320
Speaker 1: we wouldn't.

79
00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:00,280
Speaker 5: Rich.

80
00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,080
Speaker 4: Like yeah, white ball, like ball was the first thing

81
00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,640
Speaker 4: that that introduced me to to white people.

82
00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:08,960
Speaker 5: Seriously.

83
00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:14,320
Speaker 4: Definitely teachers, Yeah that's the outside of a teacher, like

84
00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:14,800
Speaker 4: you didn't.

85
00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,240
Speaker 1: But I didn't know white friends.

86
00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:17,159
Speaker 3: No, definitely.

87
00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,400
Speaker 4: Every one of my friends was looked like me Latino. No,

88
00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,920
Speaker 4: we was We didn't have a lot of change people

89
00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:27,960
Speaker 4: in my neighborhood. Basketball coach to all of that whatever,

90
00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,200
Speaker 4: Like everything like that was the first thing that integrated

91
00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,680
Speaker 4: me into other than seeing it on TV, like in

92
00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,640
Speaker 4: real life, touching being around.

93
00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,760
Speaker 5: I had never been around though, none.

94
00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:38,280
Speaker 3: Of that like that.

95
00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,800
Speaker 4: Like you said, one or two teachers in my school, yeah,

96
00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,280
Speaker 4: that would be it. But like, no, none of my friends,

97
00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:44,760
Speaker 4: none of.

98
00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:49,479
Speaker 1: That was black y'all school, from elementary school away.

99
00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:54,160
Speaker 3: Like I did everything. Boy, I saw like Latinos and blacks,

100
00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,920
Speaker 3: but I didn't see any other. I mean I did

101
00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,279
Speaker 3: sometimes television on the store maybe, but like when I

102
00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,839
Speaker 3: got to college, that's when I first see all the ethnicities. Yeah,

103
00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,680
Speaker 3: they gotta actually talk to you and chill with you.

104
00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:04,760
Speaker 2: Know.

105
00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:05,560
Speaker 3: Then I got to.

106
00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,000
Speaker 4: See more than see you travel And then when it didn't,

107
00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,760
Speaker 4: when it wasn't about introducing friends and culture and you,

108
00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,080
Speaker 4: it saved you in the neighborhood. Leave him alone, he

109
00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,640
Speaker 4: who leads your alone Here who like gang Bank is

110
00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,039
Speaker 4: gonna give you a pass because you who.

111
00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,679
Speaker 1: Leave him alone? Man, he might do, so leave him alone,

112
00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:23,159
Speaker 1: leave him be.

113
00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,080
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, because you got your

114
00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,920
Speaker 4: ball and they see you, what the course it got

115
00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:28,280
Speaker 4: and you ain't on nothing.

116
00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,880
Speaker 3: Exactly, not on nothing. You know you're still from the area,

117
00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,599
Speaker 3: but like, because it could be you. Like you know,

118
00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,360
Speaker 3: you got friends. People have rivals. They be just going

119
00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,480
Speaker 3: crazy and you know you.

120
00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,160
Speaker 2: Can be saying with somebody and man, you added to it,

121
00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,360
Speaker 2: you know, cool with that person.

122
00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,960
Speaker 3: I got in the nine. Yeah, came in two thousand,

123
00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:52,279
Speaker 3: right after It's crazy freshman freshman year, sophomore, sophomore.

124
00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,440
Speaker 2: You can't you can't out, you can't try yea, Yeah,

125
00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:57,560
Speaker 2: what high you want to?

126
00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,240
Speaker 3: I went to the academy. What sham God?

127
00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:02,480
Speaker 1: You play? Gotcha?

128
00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,400
Speaker 3: You played played the riverside.

129
00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:10,880
Speaker 4: Saying riverside, it wasn't your team, it was it was

130
00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:18,000
Speaker 4: Eric Barkley, Anthony Anthony Glover. We got them at com

131
00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,800
Speaker 4: We got we got them with Peach Jam. We got

132
00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,960
Speaker 4: at them at Peach Jam. Yeah the game, Yeah, I

133
00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,039
Speaker 4: miss you play you with with l though yo, we

134
00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:27,839
Speaker 4: had a squad.

135
00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,640
Speaker 3: I just saw Baron we're just talking about this, like

136
00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:31,960
Speaker 3: there was the only team to beat us one summer,

137
00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,880
Speaker 3: your only team, you know me, Elton Lamar, it was

138
00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:41,000
Speaker 3: Eric Barkley and in our defense we all had defense

139
00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,760
Speaker 3: to So it was crazy because like we played against

140
00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,640
Speaker 3: all these top you know, all Americans. We being about

141
00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,159
Speaker 3: fifty in the final. We were like how much Wenna

142
00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,599
Speaker 3: went by the night were coming to becoming a gym,

143
00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,560
Speaker 3: like by sixty. But the crazy thing was Alton was

144
00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,760
Speaker 3: always the best. Lamar was always the most scale. But

145
00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,960
Speaker 3: Elton was the best Lamar and then it was me. Yeah,

146
00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,040
Speaker 3: but everybody was dope. Everybody was dope, and we played

147
00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,320
Speaker 3: some defense man. We would playing defense and avers like

148
00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,400
Speaker 3: thirteen points. Elton average thirteen or fourteen. Lamar was at

149
00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:12,280
Speaker 3: thirteen to five.

150
00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,080
Speaker 2: I was yall group definitely going to AU history of

151
00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,800
Speaker 2: like one of the best groups ever to play the game.

152
00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,320
Speaker 2: Like cuting them group, y'all group. You see groups of

153
00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,520
Speaker 2: people that like through the AAU years, they'd be like, man,

154
00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,960
Speaker 2: they came together them boys. Was y'all played against the

155
00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,120
Speaker 2: Wade was he played on his day?

156
00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,640
Speaker 3: You played played with Yeah, I played with and then

157
00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,000
Speaker 3: you played against the Chicago.

158
00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,280
Speaker 1: Yah he was younger than me.

159
00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,040
Speaker 3: He's way younger.

160
00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,640
Speaker 4: He wasn't even playing he was. He liked he was

161
00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,000
Speaker 4: three years He didn't. He wasn't even when I was.

162
00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:45,760
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

163
00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,360
Speaker 3: He was, he was still coming up.

164
00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,800
Speaker 4: He was like a late bloom when he That's why

165
00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,280
Speaker 4: he didn't get heavily recruited. But he blew still.

166
00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,640
Speaker 3: I really wasn't like that nice earlier he was.

167
00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,720
Speaker 4: He was just he was still nice. He just kind

168
00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,520
Speaker 4: of a reason flew under the radar.

169
00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:00,760
Speaker 1: He was always you know.

170
00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,600
Speaker 2: How they rank you and they give you that hype

171
00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,160
Speaker 2: and then when somebody that real come in front of it,

172
00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,560
Speaker 2: they don't be who they say they is.

173
00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,600
Speaker 3: I want like, how does that happen with him?

174
00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:08,680
Speaker 4: Like?

175
00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,360
Speaker 3: How how is he not like American? I wonder?

176
00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,160
Speaker 5: Like he played with he played with d Mans and T. J.

177
00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:20,000
Speaker 4: Cummings and they were to McDonald's All Americans.

178
00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,640
Speaker 1: And he still did major work.

179
00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,160
Speaker 4: You would think because he got to All Americans that

180
00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,280
Speaker 4: more people would see him.

181
00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,480
Speaker 1: He happened that way.

182
00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,920
Speaker 3: He was killing was cooking, y'all had to y'all was

183
00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,640
Speaker 3: in the same year. Yeah, that's crazy, the same.

184
00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,440
Speaker 1: That's amazing. He did the two years of the college

185
00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:37,160
Speaker 1: and then.

186
00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,840
Speaker 3: He did right the four three.

187
00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,400
Speaker 5: Three, one year sitting down, then two years play two years.

188
00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,280
Speaker 2: That's why I caught up with him. I was a sophomore.

189
00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,600
Speaker 2: We we got drafted together. Ok, you know what I'm saying.

190
00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,040
Speaker 2: You know I committed the Saint John's.

191
00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,000
Speaker 3: I remember that.

192
00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,319
Speaker 1: I think, you know, like man and all that stuff

193
00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,880
Speaker 1: with j Yeah, I remember that.

194
00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,680
Speaker 3: You would have had a squad.

195
00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,240
Speaker 2: Like I came all the way back in that movement

196
00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,080
Speaker 2: that y'all had, Like because y'all was making noise at

197
00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,280
Speaker 2: your excurnment.

198
00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,360
Speaker 1: I think did y'all beat Duke that year?

199
00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,760
Speaker 3: We lost a duke man, But it was a good game.

200
00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,640
Speaker 2: Good game we needed was popping people and making noise

201
00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,559
Speaker 2: in Mike Jarvis. Yeah, what you think about Mike Jeorgan.

202
00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,720
Speaker 2: I chose Mike Jarvis and I chose Saint John because.

203
00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,120
Speaker 3: Right so you was coming there.

204
00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,679
Speaker 1: If you didn't go pro, Yeah, I was coming crazy.

205
00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,800
Speaker 3: We could have won a chip probably because that year.

206
00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,760
Speaker 3: My jobs is great, by the way, NBA coach. That's

207
00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,160
Speaker 3: I think he's like an NBA coach because he's like

208
00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,320
Speaker 3: a general and he's good at telling people to do

209
00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,600
Speaker 3: and he's smooth no, not too much. H Then I

210
00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:49,119
Speaker 3: had friend for Schilla, which Francilla is like suicide, you know, college,

211
00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,520
Speaker 3: which I enjoyed too. I really appreciate him. But yeah,

212
00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:53,760
Speaker 3: we had a good team, man, it was a really

213
00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,040
Speaker 3: good team, good experience. I wish we could have won,

214
00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,440
Speaker 3: you know, we lost against Schooney Penn.

215
00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:04,520
Speaker 4: Yeah he was nice and just when I first knew,

216
00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,679
Speaker 4: I knew I had seen you play in college and

217
00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,480
Speaker 4: stuff like that, and I had seen you a little

218
00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:10,959
Speaker 4: bit on the au seen so I knew.

219
00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,400
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. You was tough, you know

220
00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,480
Speaker 5: in basketball tough.

221
00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,719
Speaker 4: But when you came to the Bulls, like I was

222
00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,320
Speaker 4: still in college at this point. This is your rookie year.

223
00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,080
Speaker 4: You may or may not even remember this. I seen

224
00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,560
Speaker 4: you out of the club one time. Don't even remember

225
00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,520
Speaker 4: the name of the club whatever, down Chica, downtown Chicago.

226
00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,880
Speaker 4: This would let me know that this dude was a

227
00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,120
Speaker 4: different type of to now, you know, shot town. When

228
00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,520
Speaker 4: it's cold, boy, it's cold one, it's winter time. I

229
00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,240
Speaker 4: see I see you in the spot. My man got

230
00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,080
Speaker 4: the leather whatever might have been an Avia Rex or something.

231
00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:49,640
Speaker 1: Leather jacket on, no shirt, no shirt period.

232
00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,000
Speaker 4: Not like a white be no shirt, big boy chain

233
00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,559
Speaker 4: boy got the jean zone with his belt and then

234
00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:57,760
Speaker 4: just some tumbling boots.

235
00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,920
Speaker 5: I'm like, run out here with no shirt on.

236
00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,240
Speaker 3: I was listen. I didn't know how I loved the

237
00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,640
Speaker 3: hoods that I didn't know how dangers Chicago was. So

238
00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,240
Speaker 3: when I got there at nineteen, I was naive to everything, right,

239
00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,000
Speaker 3: I just wanted to go to the hoods. So I

240
00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,600
Speaker 3: wasn't Rabbit Taylor, you know, And but I was on

241
00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,480
Speaker 3: there just like one of the vibe and just chill

242
00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,360
Speaker 3: you know the people. Yeah, man, you know. So I

243
00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,480
Speaker 3: was there a lot, you know at seventy ninth in

244
00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,040
Speaker 3: hosted with a couple of people.

245
00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,160
Speaker 5: You hear me, that's the nine back in my So.

246
00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,720
Speaker 3: My family would sell a lot of crack, right. I

247
00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:34,080
Speaker 3: lived on Tenth Street, Queensbridge, mob deep hotnas. I live

248
00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,440
Speaker 3: on Tent Street. Tell Street was of cultures that all

249
00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,559
Speaker 3: my colts was just monkey boss you know, hustles on

250
00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,240
Speaker 3: every block. Right, So like I had to go on

251
00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,480
Speaker 3: Tell Street the place, So I kind of grew up

252
00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,360
Speaker 3: on Troll Street. People called they think I'm they say

253
00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,960
Speaker 3: I'm from Charll Street. My family all they did their time,

254
00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,520
Speaker 3: so all day times. I always asked me, can I

255
00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,439
Speaker 3: talk about these stories? And I talk about these stories

256
00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,320
Speaker 3: because the kids might think you're not you know, they're

257
00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,560
Speaker 3: the only ones going through you know what I'm saying.

258
00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,079
Speaker 3: Do I much rather be shoot and tie? You know

259
00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,880
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I will, but we do that. It's

260
00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,920
Speaker 3: like they're not gonna have nobody relate to. They didn't

261
00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:06,599
Speaker 3: have nobody relate to.

262
00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,839
Speaker 2: We're from the era where they were standing outside. But

263
00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,280
Speaker 2: I don't stand outside. They were standing outside, was coming up.

264
00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:15,760
Speaker 3: I can't stand outside.

265
00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,400
Speaker 1: They were standing outside, Like.

266
00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,439
Speaker 4: But they need to hear that, Like, yeah, the kids

267
00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,080
Speaker 4: need to know, like yo, run our test. I grew

268
00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,080
Speaker 4: up with with family members just selling dope or whatever,

269
00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,080
Speaker 4: and like, look, he's a world champion.

270
00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:30,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

271
00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,920
Speaker 3: I never was. I'm a health conscious guy. With the

272
00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,760
Speaker 3: exception of honey shouting. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

273
00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,880
Speaker 3: This is a great moment. You know what I'm saying.

274
00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,320
Speaker 3: I tried not to drink too much, but like you know,

275
00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,360
Speaker 3: I'm not into anything that can harm your body just naturally.

276
00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,360
Speaker 3: My dad, when I was young, he would give me

277
00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,800
Speaker 3: like a meal, assetse all vitamins. You know what I'm saying.

278
00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,800
Speaker 3: Would my dad, hey, give me like list ten years old,

279
00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,839
Speaker 3: nothing legal, everything from the store. So I was never

280
00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,520
Speaker 3: into that type of stuff, man, And first time I

281
00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,480
Speaker 3: got into it, I was nervous. I learned how to

282
00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,400
Speaker 3: cook bag everything, you know. And we wasn't gangster, so

283
00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,320
Speaker 3: my family didn't have no guns. We just sold lots

284
00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,280
Speaker 3: of drugs, right, And then they used to bully us

285
00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,840
Speaker 3: some people, and you know, we all grew older in

286
00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,000
Speaker 3: the same neighborhoods and we became friends. Like I know

287
00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,559
Speaker 3: people that shot each other. You probably know people I

288
00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,440
Speaker 3: shot anything, right, boys, Now you know, we realized that

289
00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,320
Speaker 3: it's like it's senseless, and we realized that you're really

290
00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,840
Speaker 3: in this together. A couple of things about Chicago that

291
00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:43,040
Speaker 3: concerns me, like the compassion people's babies are dying. But

292
00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,880
Speaker 3: the main problem is, like you gotta want to change

293
00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,480
Speaker 3: in Shottown, you know. So I had so much connection

294
00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,840
Speaker 3: with Shottown because I played there, my favorite team growing up,

295
00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,280
Speaker 3: the Bulls, and then to see the balance in Chicago

296
00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,400
Speaker 3: is just crazy crazy. I spoke to one came Shintown

297
00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,199
Speaker 3: was out on the street, like, Yo, what y'all doing

298
00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,720
Speaker 3: over there in Shottown, man, you know, just like, you know,

299
00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,400
Speaker 3: get it together out there. Because he said, you're from

300
00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,280
Speaker 3: the Shah, and he was like, yo, you know, this

301
00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:15,080
Speaker 3: is this is the life. So I was like wow.

302
00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,800
Speaker 3: And that's where people don't understand, like you know, people

303
00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,600
Speaker 3: from the Shah, people from the Shot going through a lot, yo. True,

304
00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,760
Speaker 3: more than New Orleans and Chicago's going through the roughest.

305
00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,840
Speaker 3: And for Rockaway and Queens, New York. It's a couple

306
00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,760
Speaker 3: of areas when people don't really not not publicized. When

307
00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,240
Speaker 3: you come from the Shot, it's tough. It's really tough

308
00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:33,720
Speaker 3: to make it from Chicago, and people don't make it

309
00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,080
Speaker 3: out Chicago, you know what I'm saying. And that's why

310
00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,480
Speaker 3: I know a lot about y'all. And it's people when

311
00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,440
Speaker 3: they're going through the same stuff, you know, worse people

312
00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:42,960
Speaker 3: are going through the same stuff and we got it

313
00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,080
Speaker 3: somehow reached to them. I wish we can somehow get

314
00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,880
Speaker 3: through and change some things going on over there.

315
00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,600
Speaker 4: It'd be like an event and you do this and

316
00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,760
Speaker 4: you give back like that's.

317
00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's what have you done for me lately?

318
00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,120
Speaker 2: Type worlds? Right right, right, right minute. This is the thing,

319
00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,720
Speaker 2: and then the next minute we've something else happened, and

320
00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:04,960
Speaker 2: then we're thinking about that.

321
00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,480
Speaker 3: Speak about it, bring awareness to it, because back in

322
00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,160
Speaker 3: the days, nobody really talking about that. Ask where we're from,

323
00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,320
Speaker 3: where you're really from. We just came in to the

324
00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,760
Speaker 3: league and it's yo, you're here, it's on Christmas.

325
00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,000
Speaker 2: Now, no, no, no, no no, And nobody don't know the

326
00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,600
Speaker 2: history about like the guys that we touched or the

327
00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,960
Speaker 2: guys that we come around. Like like, I knew the

328
00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,960
Speaker 2: bond that you had with Lamar right right, right right,

329
00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,720
Speaker 2: It made I feel like it made us.

330
00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,000
Speaker 1: Even bond with you even more.

331
00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,560
Speaker 2: We love Lamar like a brother, and we know Lamar

332
00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,880
Speaker 2: is your brother, and it's like, oh no, that's Ryan's automatic.

333
00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,440
Speaker 2: We felt very towards each other and rough each other.

334
00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,720
Speaker 1: It always be that guy right there to be like, yeah, no,

335
00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,760
Speaker 1: that's that's that's Lamar brother.

336
00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,400
Speaker 3: Lamar been to a lot, man. I know Lama for

337
00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,040
Speaker 3: a long time. You know, we play with each other

338
00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,960
Speaker 3: and I have my issues going on my household. He

339
00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,480
Speaker 3: had his issues going on his household. But when you

340
00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,200
Speaker 3: see him, he's so nice, you don't think you have

341
00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:04,120
Speaker 3: no no issues, so nice ever, you know, I seen

342
00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,160
Speaker 3: him when he was six to one. I was in

343
00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,360
Speaker 3: told him, next time he comes back sixty six. He's

344
00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,920
Speaker 3: just nice. You know what I'm saying, How am I

345
00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:12,760
Speaker 3: gonna deal with this?

346
00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:15,880
Speaker 1: Well?

347
00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,360
Speaker 5: From six one six six, that's crazy?

348
00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,920
Speaker 2: L A Clipper Lamar Oldham is totally different than Lake

349
00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,080
Speaker 2: lamold Yeah, like l A Cliper, Lamo Oldam was just

350
00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:27,240
Speaker 2: like rawing and cut.

351
00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,880
Speaker 1: He was going at everybody because he was our best player. Yeah,

352
00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:32,280
Speaker 1: he was everybody.

353
00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,200
Speaker 3: Definitely was like amazing. Definitely, you know, thinking about Lamar,

354
00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,520
Speaker 3: I'm happy that we played together because when Lamar Lamar

355
00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,200
Speaker 3: was the best, we accepted him as the best, and

356
00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,280
Speaker 3: he let us be the best. We cand on his team.

357
00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,760
Speaker 3: He could have easily took every shot.

358
00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,720
Speaker 1: He did us to. Yeah, he definitely was where he.

359
00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:54,120
Speaker 3: Was very unselfish, taught us a lot about passing, improving

360
00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,800
Speaker 3: and pushing yourself. I feel when he got to the Lakers,

361
00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,200
Speaker 3: he's just team game rebound. He was able to adapt.

362
00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,640
Speaker 2: Easily, easily, That's what he kind of wanted to do anyway.

363
00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that was his natural deal.

364
00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,280
Speaker 2: Who you paid in your game after when you came

365
00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,159
Speaker 2: up Like who was that one person you've seen.

366
00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,919
Speaker 1: I tried on them like that person.

367
00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,280
Speaker 3: Everybody tried Michael Jordan.

368
00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,080
Speaker 1: H of course Mike, but like, what was that one

369
00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:16,400
Speaker 1: that you.

370
00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,600
Speaker 3: Thought was Robin I like his hustle, Dennis robing Man,

371
00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,879
Speaker 3: you know that poster diving out like one of the

372
00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,119
Speaker 3: dopest pictures, and he's like he's hustling, and then you

373
00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,320
Speaker 3: hear a story, you know what I'm saying. I was like, Wow,

374
00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,440
Speaker 3: I like this guy man, and I can I can

375
00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,080
Speaker 3: just hustle like him, you know what I'm saying. And

376
00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,080
Speaker 3: but then Gary Payton was one of my favorites, Michael Jordan's,

377
00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,320
Speaker 3: but then everybody on the Bulls was like my favorite.

378
00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,439
Speaker 3: But then you know when I was like trying to

379
00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,359
Speaker 3: work on my game, Gary Payton, Michael Jordan, Dennis Rodman.

380
00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,560
Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense.

381
00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you first met Mike, how was that feeling? Like, Yeah,

382
00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,119
Speaker 2: when you first met Mike, Like, how did you feel?

383
00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,520
Speaker 3: Amazing? Everybody guys feeling to meet Lebron. I was in Chicago,

384
00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,159
Speaker 3: I got dry and then like you know what the

385
00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,240
Speaker 3: runs was at the hoops?

386
00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:03,440
Speaker 1: Is this when you this?

387
00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,520
Speaker 5: This is this, this is when you broke his ribs.

388
00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,160
Speaker 3: This is the Yeah, this is when is that time?

389
00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,920
Speaker 5: So the same first time you met him, you broke

390
00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:09,359
Speaker 5: his ribbed.

391
00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,360
Speaker 3: Actually maybe like the fifth or six game I played

392
00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,240
Speaker 3: against Michael right, and it was an accident. It was

393
00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,359
Speaker 3: an accident. We just going hard. It was crazy. I

394
00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:21,119
Speaker 3: was living your death. I went to I was in

395
00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,040
Speaker 3: the house for twoday. I coudn't house depressed. Michael called

396
00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:30,280
Speaker 3: me yo. So the fast forward we playing, Michael posted

397
00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,200
Speaker 3: me up. You can't let Michael get the ball at

398
00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,080
Speaker 3: this point, he's the best player in the league. Yeah,

399
00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,800
Speaker 3: I broke his readily ad in twenty five. He's been

400
00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,320
Speaker 3: a thirty five out three months, so he was cooking everybody.

401
00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Finley was in there stack

402
00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,360
Speaker 3: houses in there. Young Lebron was in.

403
00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,760
Speaker 1: There when I used to becoming. I told him I

404
00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:47,920
Speaker 1: was a.

405
00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,480
Speaker 4: Scottie and them boy that was Lebron was a sophomore

406
00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:51,960
Speaker 4: and Twine brought him that time.

407
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:52,679
Speaker 3: That's what happened.

408
00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,920
Speaker 4: When he had the glasses still, then the little joints

409
00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:56,840
Speaker 4: to go around his neck.

410
00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,040
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, here was you know.

411
00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:05,159
Speaker 4: Maverick brought him. Was a little older than him, but

412
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,440
Speaker 4: he hadn't the college yet.

413
00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,479
Speaker 3: That's amazing. I didn't know that I was brought him out.

414
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,080
Speaker 3: That's what he was a fast break. He was coming,

415
00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,040
Speaker 3: He's cooking. He was cooking beculdn't nobody can gut him,

416
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,560
Speaker 3: Lebron James. They couldn't guard him. I'm like, I'm getting battered.

417
00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,760
Speaker 3: He's inmbackrassing us. So he's coming down full speed, Lebron James.

418
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,240
Speaker 3: I laid him on the floor. He get up and

419
00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,399
Speaker 3: start cooking more. He's just tough. He's about he was

420
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,040
Speaker 3: about two twenty five at that time, but I remember

421
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,520
Speaker 3: him just being tough, you know. And so Jordan, I was.

422
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,000
Speaker 3: I was denying Jordan. Jordan's was grabbing me like this,

423
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,040
Speaker 3: he hold you. And I tried to get in front

424
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 3: of him to deny because you can't let him catch it.

425
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,359
Speaker 3: You hit him in the ribs and I broke his

426
00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 3: ribs by mistake.

427
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 4: And Tim was pissed. TG was pissed. Tim Grover, Oh

428
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 4: really I was.

429
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 3: I was going out.

430
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 2: I couldn't like waves went around Jordan's brand like like

431
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 2: like going crazy, like like hurt because you broke his ribs.

432
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,680
Speaker 3: Wow, you know what?

433
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 4: Man?

434
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 3: And he caught. I was sad for two days. I

435
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 3: was in my house. I looked in downtown Chicago and

436
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,880
Speaker 3: I couldn't get up out of bed thinking about Mike.

437
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,120
Speaker 3: Rag Mike and he heard about this. I was talking

438
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,440
Speaker 3: my agent. I couldn't go to practice nothing, and gener

439
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 3: Asian call me that you gotta get up. I said,

440
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 3: I can't get up, you know, I just broke Mike.

441
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,640
Speaker 3: I can't believe this, man. And then Mike call me, yo,

442
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 3: Mike hit me up. Hey, who's this Mike? Mike who

443
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,120
Speaker 3: mikeel Jordan? Oh shit? And he says, Yo, it's all right, man,

444
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 3: don't worry about it. It happens. It happens, you know. And

445
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 3: I said, all right, cool, and I went back to play.

446
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 3: I went back to play in the summertime. Man, first

447
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 3: time I met Mike. Yo, it's crazy, that's crazy.

448
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 1: I know that. I know it was the first initial time.

449
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

450
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 4: I want to ask you about how did it feel

451
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 4: for you when you first came to the board. I

452
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 4: got to watch you up close, and then when you

453
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 4: got to the point where when you were Indiana you

454
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 4: become a bona fide entity like player, defensive player.

455
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 1: Of the year type.

456
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody, not just you know down here

457
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 4: on the SAP featured on the Scouting Report, but you

458
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 4: was out there getting buckets too for you, Like how

459
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 4: did that feel like as far as like from where

460
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 4: you came from and you making it to that point.

461
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 3: Man, Yo, it was crazy, my dude, like got to Chicago.

462
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 3: I knew I wasn't that good. I knew my defense

463
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,719
Speaker 3: was superior. I always knew that. But you know, when

464
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 3: you're trying to get paid and I paying the best defense, right,

465
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 3: I go in the game. I honestly, I go into

466
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 3: a game all I want to just play defense. I

467
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 3: don't want to do nothing else. I don't want to rebound.

468
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 3: I don't do nothing, so sometimes I don't. I don't

469
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 3: want to have no rebounds. I knew I can be

470
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 3: the best player on the floor defensively, right, and it

471
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 3: motivated me. So when I when I saw they weren't

472
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 3: paying defenders something, I started to work on my game.

473
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 3: Coming I'm never gonna get paid, you know what I'm saying.

474
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 3: And that's what made me work on my game, like

475
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 3: you know, just just not even the outside stuff, suspensions

476
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 3: and you know, salaries. I didn't get contracts I should

477
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 3: have got, but I didn't because of what I was

478
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 3: getting in trouble, but like the paces offered me the max.

479
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 3: You know, don't get in trouble, we give you the max.

480
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, the next I just do some crazy Chicago.

481
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 3: You know, we were going to franchise blah blah blah,

482
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 3: you know, and I just kept I just couldn't. Money

483
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 3: wasn't important to me, you know what I'm saying. And

484
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 3: I was going through so much, but like, but then

485
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 3: I was still in that gym every day and it

486
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 3: felt good to I finished six a MVP voting the

487
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: year I got Defensive Play of the Year. I was

488
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 3: number six, So after eighteen, I was the best defender.

489
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 3: So the next yem like, you know, get your life

490
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 3: together and get the MVP. And I came back average

491
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 3: in twenty five. You know, I was so I felt

492
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 3: like I feel like I was in position to get

493
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 3: MVP that year, you know, and we were the best

494
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 3: team in the league. Probably Yea and Jamaine should have

495
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 3: got different Play of the Year, but he was in

496
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 3: the voting for MVP. They forgot about his defense. He's

497
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 3: best defender on our team. Definitely. I filled to people

498
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 3: to him and they got they can't shoot over him.

499
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 3: The next year. I feel like I was definitely going

500
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 3: to get it, you know, and then like the broad

501
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 3: happened whatever. But it felt really good to be able

502
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 3: to say, like I was one of the best at

503
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 3: one time. You know, you're a bowler. You just try

504
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 3: to do your best, you know. And I don't get

505
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 3: the accolades everybody got because if I was Indian, it

506
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: was my team. I was taking all the shots shots,

507
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So I could have done

508
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 3: that for like, you know, four more five more years,

509
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 3: you know, so I kind of you know, and anybody

510
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 3: keep me in that position if you just keep your

511
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 3: head straight.

512
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 2: Jermaine O'Neill is one of the most underrated players like

513
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 2: I ever seen in the NBA. I feel like he

514
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: don't get his just due of like how good and dominant, like.

515
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: He was like like what you think about.

516
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 4: And one of the coolest, dopest dude, like great.

517
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: Dudes, Like that's my that is my dude. I love

518
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: j Any straight out of high school.

519
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 3: So you know, South South South South South Carolina. Yeah, yo, Jams.

520
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 3: Like when I was going through my stuff and Indian,

521
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 3: I was going through a lot. You always reach out,

522
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 3: how yo, how you doing. We were we were super competitive,

523
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: you know what you mean, and we were clashed. But

524
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 3: after practice he'll reach out when you see something, you

525
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 3: see I'm going through something, yo, you all right, even

526
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 3: though we got like now it's not people think it's

527
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 3: it's not beef, It's just I'm gone. You know, I

528
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 3: never had never had one to have lunch, you know,

529
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 3: you havens yeah, dinner, yeah, I know y'all have dinner. Yeah,

530
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 3: And I'm just you know, I'm just so going through

531
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 3: so much, you know, I don't want to lunch. I

532
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 3: don't want to eat. It divided us a little bit

533
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 3: because Jamaine got he get he's a team Lebron.

534
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: Lebron. Yeah, he's an.

535
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 3: Amazing player, amazing person. He's a real leader and I'm

536
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: glad able to call him to this day because we

537
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 3: have a kind of it just doesn't you didn't get

538
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: to know each other. Yeat each other quite simple.

539
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's a lot of players that you come up through,

540
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 2: especially if you play with multiple teams, because like we

541
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 2: get shuffled much like you'll have one team one year

542
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: and then it just changed just a little bit, especially

543
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: when you got a team that, oh, y'all and did

544
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: something and then that the two three players that you

545
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: kind of got rid of the ass some so it's

546
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: like it's not the same thing you had last year.

547
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 5: Things can happen so fast, situation.

548
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 3: See in the gym work, don't just to stay small.

549
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: It's a business, you know. Don't be like I showed

550
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 3: too much emotion like DeMarcus Cousins like sometimes like we

551
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 3: gotta understand, like this is fun.

552
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun. That's where we grew up loving.

553
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 3: You know, it's fun.

554
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: Man.

555
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: But I get it.

556
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely get you know, we've been there.

557
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 4: But it's just we older now we be able to

558
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 4: we can look at it from those places of experience

559
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 4: and saying, like we see what we could have did

560
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 4: different than what we should have done different. Yeah yeah,

561
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 4: so now we can look at them and be like,

562
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 4: this is what you should do. But I get that

563
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 4: you gotta go through this. I did some crazy stuff

564
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 4: a couple of times here and there too. I'm not

565
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 4: saying that I'm better above you. I'm just trying to

566
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 4: help you, you know what.

567
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 3: Definitely, man, I really enjoyed my time back with the

568
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 3: Lakers because I was able to get back to guys

569
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 3: like Julius. You know what I'm saying, Dangelo. Yeah, talking

570
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 3: to them and they think they hot stuff. First pick

571
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 3: big dough. You gotta put them in the place sometimes

572
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: and I really we had rough moments together, but they respected.

573
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 3: It's coming from a good place. Like you have to

574
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 3: be respectful to your teammates.

575
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely.

576
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 3: You gotta work hard and you gotta respect your teammates.

577
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 3: How many lunches did y'all have together?

578
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: Too many?

579
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 3: How many countless?

580
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: With my teammates, like, like everything that I was on,

581
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: I tried to find some type of activity that I

582
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 2: went with them.

583
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: To do so we can get up on and so

584
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: you and no, look I'm.

585
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 2: Cool with you. You know what I'm saying. I don't

586
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 2: got no problems. You ain't gonna see me out here,

587
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 2: not throwing you the ball?

588
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 3: Who you chill? Mostly? Who both of y'all chill? Mostly?

589
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 4: See me personally, I will say I was fortunate and

590
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 4: then I have that type of personality. I'm gonna kind

591
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 4: of gravitate to the crowd and try and do the

592
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 4: bring the team team like, like trying and bring them

593
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 4: together type things. I mean on every team. I mean

594
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 4: in LA we was fortunate. We was all kids. So

595
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 4: we literally we didn't know guys come to the league

596
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 4: with their homeboys. Like we was each other's homeboys. So

597
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 4: if you saw Darris, you saw me. And literally if

598
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 4: you saw like especially like on the road, if we

599
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 4: was on the road as a team, you're gonna catch

600
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 4: at least six to seven of us going to dinner, going.

601
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 3: Out with the guys. Sometimes I did, I did, I did, and.

602
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 4: So so for me, I was from team to team LA.

603
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 4: I had a good group my year in Phoenix. We

604
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 4: was awesome. You know what I'm saying. That team we

605
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: were super close knit, barbecues and hang out together. Didn't

606
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 4: go to New York and it's crazy and it's chaotic and.

607
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: As terrible as we were.

608
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 4: Even with that team, I had a whole group of

609
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 4: dudes from Eddie to Nate.

610
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: You know, I got a big problem with Emon. Not

611
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 3: Emon was very he was receptive. God to respect the

612
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 3: team that you gotta give a handshakes when you come

613
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: out the game. All this little stuff is important. And

614
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: then I got a big problem with Jr. Only because

615
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: like you know, when you come out the game, you

616
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: gotta shake your player's hand. Yeah, you can never and

617
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 3: if you miss it when you get back in the game,

618
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 3: like make it up, don't. And so I'm not playing

619
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 3: and guys is not shaking my hand on the way

620
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: into the game. I'm only playing two minutes, like give

621
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: me some love, So you know what I'm saying. So

622
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: it's like a whole thing like that that I escalated

623
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 3: because it's a small thing, but it's a big thing,

624
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: you know, And it's like those type of things certain

625
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 3: guys were recept to, certain guys wasn't. And I feel like,

626
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 3: you know, like you said, you know it just it

627
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: just brings you back to mentoring and keeping guys like

628
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: positive as possible. But I feel like I did really

629
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 3: good for JR. You want a title? After that, I

630
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: feel like I feel somewhat responsible to the title.

631
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: You know that, going from like the small market teams

632
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: that you was playing with in the playoffs, like the Indianas,

633
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: and then you went to Houston playing with them teams

634
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: that don't have the same pressure as LA.

635
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like.

636
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: Y'all got you got rind on test, y'all gotta win

637
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: a championship this But to have that championship you seen,

638
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: you finally seen like, oh, your team bond. This is

639
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: different than the other teams that I had trying to

640
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: go and win a championship. This is like we're cool.

641
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: Like I'm cool with Kobe, I'm cool with Lamar Pow.

642
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: Like we're a team team, we can eat together, we

643
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: can talk. Ain't nobody taking nothing that I'm saying personal.

644
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: It's like we're cool. How does that feel like? Transition?

645
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: Like we always want to win chips when we get younger, CBC.

646
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: Everything as a ball of you is nice, high level,

647
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: you know, And like I wanted to win with Indiana,

648
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: but I was going through so much in Indiana. My dude,

649
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: it was crazy.

650
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: Figuring break it was crazy.

651
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 3: When I was in Chicago was crazy, right, And then

652
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: you're trying to just hide that when you get into

653
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: the game and you just try to play and throwing hard.

654
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 3: But like, you know, the best team I feel I

655
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 3: had was the Indiana team. But I was in my

656
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: best mental state in LA. You know what I'm saying.

657
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 1: That makes it difference.

658
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: It was my best stay in LA. I got and

659
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: it took a while and therapy and like after the game,

660
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: after practice of the basis, I would see like a therapist,

661
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: I'll go right to the locker room, the other locker

662
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: rooms see therapists, you know. And I was just trying

663
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: to figure it out because I wanted to play basketball.

664
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: You know, I just couldn't. I hated losing. For one,

665
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 3: I couldn't. I was a real soul loser. And then

666
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: I couldn't like let things go in my life, things come,

667
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: you know, off the court go on the court, on

668
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 3: the court go off. It was just you know, you know,

669
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: those things go. But in La I was like strong mentally,

670
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 3: and it felt good to win the chip and to

671
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: finally hit a ship. You know, I had a big

672
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: shot to kind of sell a game, and I was

673
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 3: just thinking about everything, you know at that point. You know,

674
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 3: I got one, you know, but then I didn't have

675
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: one with Indiana, you know, because like you know, I'll

676
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: be in practices. Joe just tripping, you know what I'm saying,

677
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 3: and you know they trust me with the team. Yeah,

678
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: you know, Donnie SiO, this is you and Jamaine Tea. Yeah,

679
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 3: I'm in practice. Recarlo was like saying, like this motherfucker's crazy.

680
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: Get this. Fuck he people. Jama Is like, you'll get

681
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: this mo fuck Audi. They was right. I ain't gonna

682
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,239
Speaker 3: lie one hundred percent, right, So I feel like I

683
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: wasn't responsible. Reggie Miller was there, you know, and you

684
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 3: look back at it like I feel it was selfish

685
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: not to get ready a title. We had a chance.

686
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: We had a chance, you know what I'm saying. So

687
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 3: as a ballplayer, you have any respect, that's gonna make

688
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: you feel bad, right, you know what I'm saying. When

689
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: I got when I want to find on a podium

690
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: personing I did, I had to think yeah or Jamaine

691
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: thanks to Donny Walsh Indiana. I wanted this to be

692
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: with you real talk. Everybody know the had.

693
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: To go through something just to get to this level.

694
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was like so many different things. Great

695
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: feeling though.

696
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: Did you sign the upper deck?

697
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: Cause everybody how much minds like twenty five hours a

698
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: card whatever?

699
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: You remember? It was just like my name you got me?

700
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my chick is going up.

701
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 3: What was the most you signed?

702
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: My mom was.

703
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: Making like thirty five I think like thirty six thousand

704
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: dollars a year.

705
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: Oh really I signed won for like fifty thousand dollars.

706
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: Wow, one card, sign you.

707
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: One little pack? Yeah yeah, yea yeah, fifty thousands telling

708
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: to tell them to cinemall.

709
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: To this day.

710
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, Likeiini whoever, Like like, yeah, I signed my name like.

711
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 3: Bro, and you want to know, Like I always wondered

712
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: because that's the one that's the one contract that's not exposed, right,

713
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: so you know, you don't know what nobody's signing cards

714
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 3: for me, you know, like the Nike deal, you know,

715
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: the NBA deal. I was always wondering, like I want

716
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: how much Kobe's getting per card. You're welcome because like

717
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: I was happy with my with that little check I

718
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 3: was getting.

719
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 4: You already know, giving us that you already know you

720
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 4: you know, Bruce Wayne getting that.

721
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: Bad Yeah in the back they get in the back,

722
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: the bronze.

723
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 5: All of them boys. Yeah, ways they getting them boys.

724
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed playing with Mellow too.

725
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I didn't play. I got a chance to

726
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 4: play with him at the end of my career. So

727
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 4: I got waived and that was thirteen by the Magic

728
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 4: miss basically the whole season, and got signed the end

729
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 4: of the season and played the playoffs for them. I mean,

730
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 4: but I knew Mello since coming through high school.

731
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 3: I knew, like I know him being you know for

732
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 3: a long time.

733
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 4: Always been solid and one of the best. What you

734
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 4: what's your take on what's going on with him right now?

735
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: The business? It's the time and you know I played Melo.

736
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: I seen him have sixteen the gardens. Amazing guy was

737
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: the end of my crew. I was hoping, you have

738
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: the bench, but Melo was cooking. I'm like, shit, I'm getting.

739
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: Off the bench. He was aggressive too.

740
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: He's amazing, amazing. I feel like the only thing he

741
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: could added was a little bit more hustle. Even right

742
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: now the veteran stage, he's still in shape them. I

743
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: think he could just like hustle, dive on the floor,

744
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: you know, just like get yourself up, go get the title,

745
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: to win the title. He could still play, definitely, you know.

746
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: But and then he would keep us together. That he

747
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: was always he was like, he's a good leader. He

748
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: went to New York with no help. I mean, I'm

749
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 3: gonna see.

750
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 1: No help outside of tomorrow. Mari was first.

751
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 4: I always want to give them Mario that credit because

752
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,479
Speaker 4: someone as a free agent and like took that, took

753
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 4: that on because everybody, to me is scared of it.

754
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 5: They scared of the New York They're scared of the fans.

755
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know I played that four years, so

756
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 4: I know I'm well versed on what it is to

757
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 4: be a Nick and how. And you know, I was

758
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 4: dead through one of the worst periods of probably Nick history,

759
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 4: so I felt, yeah, I know what it is to

760
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 4: get booed in that guard and all that.

761
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: So guys are afraid of that.

762
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 4: You know, they seen a rod how he was not

763
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 4: received kind of like guys, you know, these guys want

764
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 4: to get their money and enjoy their money and not

765
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 4: be having to go to the game and be boo.

766
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 4: So for for Stack came up to step up and

767
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 4: say scared of that, and then for Mello to say, hey,

768
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 4: to force his way there like I'm not afraid of that,

769
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 4: and to re sign like, na, I'm cool, I'm I

770
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 4: embraced all of this and I'm not afraid of none

771
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 4: of it. To me, those two dudes don't get the

772
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 4: respect they deserve for doing that because look what they've

773
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 4: gotten since. And they've had chances those two periods like

774
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 4: people have had. They've had slots for Max guys and

775
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 4: who have taken us. Everybody shy away and nobody's done it,

776
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 4: but those two and those two deserve like just and

777
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 4: when they with that they put on like that was

778
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 4: putting on. They ain't had to trade half the team

779
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 4: to get mellow. They just waited to the mellow Yallow

780
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 4: and all of them.

781
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: It was crazy.

782
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: And I'm from New York. I'm a Bulls fan first,

783
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 3: but I'm from New York times I'm naturally a nick fan, right,

784
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And yeah, I didn't like.

785
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: I didn't like that trade because you know, when you're

786
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 3: building something, you know, and we got a chance to

787
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: win the titles. So I don't want to. I don't

788
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: want to discredit like anybody's work, you know, gems like,

789
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: it's not about that. I'm a fan first, you know

790
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And it's like, I want to see

791
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: New York even when I'm with the Lakers. I'm just like, Damn,

792
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 3: I want to see New York. That's a true New York.

793
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: I want to see New York go to the finals,

794
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: and I want to win. But if we lose, it's

795
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: not that bad. It ain't that bad, all right, man.

796
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

797
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 4: Y'all just got to checking out ron ron A Ka

798
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,479
Speaker 4: Meadoworld peace. We won't appreciate you you us in love

799
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 4: with us talking about old It's great man to be here.

800
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: I really appreciate. Had a great time man, no no question.

801
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: Shout out to the podcast. It's a great it's a

802
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: great out, great vertical to be.

803
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, trying to bring it to

804
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 4: y'all for the culture. My man came through. He kept

805
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 4: it real today. Man, we preach very special YEACKT. Tall

806
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 4: the Knucklehead fans. Much love, much love. We appreciate the

807
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 4: support and all of all the love we've been getting.

808
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 4: Don't forget to check us out and subscribe and download

809
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 4: on Apple, it Tunes or Spotify wherever you check out

810
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 4: podcasts wherever they're available. We out you get at us, download,

811
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 4: continue to support. We got some real heat coming. Welcome

812
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 4: up Jack

813
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: The Players Tribute dot Com