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Speaker 2: Add Hey, we've got former Big League pitcher and current

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Speaker 2: FT for the first time. Friend of mine, Gooby.

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Speaker 3: Great to have you on.

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Speaker 2: Man, How you doing, Todd and Jason?

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Speaker 3: What's going on, fellas? How are we doing? We're laughing, Man,

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Speaker 3: you're laughing long time? No see, man, what's going down?

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Speaker 1: I know we were hanging out at Yankee Stadium this

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Speaker 3: It's eemed to be.

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Speaker 4: I was telling these guys. I said, listen, this is

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Speaker 4: He's better. He dresses better than all the ballplayers. Mane

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Speaker 4: how many how many top coach do you have? Like

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Speaker 1: You know what, don I'll be honest, it's probably about

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Speaker 3: I think this variety of different colors. You know what,

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Speaker 2: It's a beautiful nice goovie Blazers, right, goould be blazers.

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Speaker 3: All right, they're sharp. Oh that'd be sick. That'd be sick.

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Speaker 4: I want to I want to talk about this Angels team.

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Speaker 4: You know, from the series with the Yankees, we talk

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tell I.

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Speaker 1: Mean when you look at it, the first month and

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Speaker 3: It was like seven point nine, you know, and they

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Speaker 1: Kenley Chance, I think has a big influence on these

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Speaker 1: So there's so many varieties that they can go down

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Speaker 3: Not winning, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's there's stuff. They've got stuff in this bullpen,

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Speaker 1: Pretty good to see because ever relievers like you know,

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Speaker 3: Where do you.

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Speaker 2: Stand there as a guy who calls Angels games, but

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Speaker 3: So that's what I'm seeing from this team right now.

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Speaker 1: They're kind of taking the personality of Ron washingt Du

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Speaker 6: It sounds like they're gonna keep competing, and you guys

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Speaker 5: You were up at twenty one.

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Speaker 6: I could tell you, I was not physically mature enough

436
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Speaker 6: at twenty one years old, and I know I for

437
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Speaker 6: a fact, I was not mentally mature enough either at

438
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Speaker 6: twenty one years old.

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Speaker 5: So that's impressive to be up at that time.

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Speaker 6: We're talking about the starting rotation health, but we're going

441
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Speaker 6: to go to the flip side, kind of on the

442
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Speaker 6: unfortunate side of the unhealthy side. Is there an update

443
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Speaker 6: on Ron Washington and how has this team been rallying

444
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Speaker 6: around kind of not having them, especially what you mentioned it,

445
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Speaker 6: there's a tough schedule coming up where sometimes teams really

446
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Speaker 6: need to rely on their manager to get them through that.

447
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Speaker 6: And the personality alone is a great personality to have

448
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Speaker 6: a round. So what's the update on that end?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jays, that's you know, we've been waiting here more

450
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Speaker 1: and more each day. You know, he's been around as

451
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Speaker 1: much as possible. We saw him in New York when

452
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Speaker 1: we're going home. He didn't look real healthy, he wasn't

453
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Speaker 1: feeling real good, but he was at the ballpark.

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Speaker 3: We're like, wosh, you're you're still here. I get a

455
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Speaker 3: job to do.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the thing he instills on his players, and

457
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Speaker 1: he doesn't allow young war veteran players to come in

458
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Speaker 1: and go, hey, I'm not doing really right away, He's

459
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Speaker 1: jumping right down and they're girl saying, we need you

460
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Speaker 1: to be able to go out there before every single

461
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Speaker 1: day you put on that uniform. So it is difficult

462
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Speaker 1: not having him on the bench. His presence has been around.

463
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Speaker 1: We don't really know. I think we're gonna know something

464
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Speaker 1: by today or tomorrow how long he may be out.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully it won't be long, because I mean, I love

466
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Speaker 1: my conversations with him every day. If you ask him

467
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Speaker 1: one question, you got about an hour talk about anything

468
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Speaker 1: to do with baseball, from the modern player to the

469
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Speaker 1: player he played against, the guys played before him. He's

470
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Speaker 1: a wealth of baseball information and his fight is what

471
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Speaker 1: everyone loves about him. That's why we're all praying for

472
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Speaker 1: him and pulling for him during this fight he's in

473
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Speaker 1: right now that we know that he's going to be

474
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Speaker 1: able to fight through this and be part of this

475
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Speaker 1: and hopefully something magical happens towards the end of the year.

476
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Speaker 1: If they can get through this month of July coming up,

477
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Speaker 1: you know, then maybe this team has something special going

478
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Speaker 1: on because of Watch.

479
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're obviously thinking about Wash it's been on the show.

480
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Speaker 2: We all know him, covering him for a long time.

481
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Speaker 2: Goofy last one for you. So the Angels just swept

482
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Speaker 2: the Red Sox. I watched a decent amount of that series.

483
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Speaker 2: What did you see on the other side there with Boston?

484
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Speaker 2: And you know how they've I now think lost five

485
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Speaker 2: in a row. You've got like Roman Anthony who is

486
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Speaker 2: supposed to be amazing but getting everything on his shoulders

487
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Speaker 2: to hit third. Devers is gone. So you know, how

488
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Speaker 2: do you sum up the way you looked at that

489
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Speaker 2: team over the last few days. And of course we

490
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Speaker 2: can get your take on on the Devers trade. For me,

491
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Speaker 2: I'm curious more on you know, it's forget just the drama.

492
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Speaker 2: They're supposed to be competing this year. They traded away

493
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Speaker 2: a top ten bat in the sport. And you've probably

494
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Speaker 2: met Devers. He's like quiet, he's he's not he's not

495
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Speaker 2: Manny Ramirez shown up late, you know, pain in the butt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the thing is with Devers. I mean,

497
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Speaker 1: I know, just talking with the pictures, I know, whenever

498
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Speaker 1: we went to a team, when we're facing them, who

499
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Speaker 1: do you who do you avoid in those big moments?

500
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Speaker 1: Deavors every time. You know, when you don't see his

501
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Speaker 1: presence in a lineup, it doesn't matter who else is

502
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Speaker 1: in there. You feel like as a pitcher, you're confident

503
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Speaker 1: that you can navigate your way. I mean, Durand's a

504
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Speaker 1: really good player. I love the way he plays the

505
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a lot of speed, he plays

506
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Speaker 1: good defense in the outfield, He's got some pretty good

507
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Speaker 1: poweries at triples machine, and they have some young players.

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Speaker 1: They're very similar when you think about some of their

509
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Speaker 1: young players that are supposed to be able to carry

510
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Speaker 1: a team like the Angels are right now. But the

511
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Speaker 1: Angels now would Trout back in there. They have Mike Trout,

512
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Speaker 1: and they have a tail Awards, you have a veteran round.

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Speaker 1: It's tough for these young guys to look at someone

514
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Speaker 1: to allow them to relax it to play. They're trying

515
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Speaker 1: to do too much. You can see if there are swings,

516
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Speaker 1: they're trying to do too much, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: what's hurting their offense. I know they had to make

518
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Speaker 1: a decision with Devers. I know things were going awry

519
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Speaker 1: there as far as how things were working out with

520
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Speaker 1: the team. But when you have a guy like Crochet.

521
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Speaker 1: I watched him pitch the other day, I mean against

522
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Speaker 1: the Angel They're like, wow, this guy's I'm real. So

523
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Speaker 1: you have a potential of waist and arm like that.

524
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Speaker 1: Their bullpen's been used a lot and they got some

525
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Speaker 1: good arms down there. But when you don't have your

526
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Speaker 1: anchor of your offense endeavors in there, they're a completely

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Speaker 1: different team. Even when we saw them up at Fenway

528
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Speaker 1: Park a few weeks ago in Boston, he was there

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Speaker 1: and that's the first you could see a picture's action.

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Speaker 1: Believe me, When I was facing guys, you know, and

531
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden you go, oh, there's the Albert

532
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Speaker 1: Bell waiting on deck. I'm like, man, can Albert Bell

533
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Speaker 1: just move on to go somewhere else because that's the

534
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Speaker 1: one guy, and then you forget about the other hitters

535
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Speaker 1: in the lineup. Then you start making mistakes. So Dev's

536
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Speaker 1: not being there is a huge hole for the Red Sox.

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Speaker 1: That be honest with you, I don't know if we're

538
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Speaker 1: able to overcome that right now, because that's the one

539
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Speaker 1: bat you need if you're a Red Sox fan.

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: No way they're replacing that mid season, And if they

542
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Speaker 2: were trying to compete. I'm like, dude, this in the offseason,

543
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Speaker 2: you can actually sign a different player with that money.

544
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Speaker 2: So I'm with you. I'm watching them the last few

545
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Speaker 2: nights and I'm just like, this team is they've lost

546
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Speaker 2: their impact batt and it like if it affects the

547
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Speaker 2: rest of the lineup. Gooby, this was awesome, man, Really

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. Great to see you here. Thanks for joining us.

549
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Speaker 2: And you know we're on for the Angels TV crowd

550
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Speaker 2: out there every day too, so I know they appreciate

551
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Speaker 2: it as well.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you. You guys are awesome, man. It

553
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Speaker 3: was also being on there with you guys. You guys rock.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Grooves