WEBVTT - Jayden Daniels Jersey Number... ? Gathering Undrafted BALLERS! | Command Center Podcast | Washington Commanders

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<v Speaker 1>On today's episode The Command Center Podcast, we talked Jayden's

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<v Speaker 1>jersey number.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got to take it from somebody who say you

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<v Speaker 2>have to pay up a limit?

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<v Speaker 3>Was he not gonna be? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>I can'tn't wait here? What these guys got to say?

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<v Speaker 1>We got undrafted free agents. We go through all of

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<v Speaker 1>them and we give a little advice. What's it gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take for those guys to make the team. And we

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<v Speaker 1>got a little story time talking about Big Mike Sellers.

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<v Speaker 1>Woooo and it all starts right right now. Welcome into

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<v Speaker 1>the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan paulse In here with

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<v Speaker 1>Fretz Food and Santana Moss and guys. We got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of love, a lot of love for the merch

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<v Speaker 1>which is always great. Man the shirts. Everyone wants one.

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<v Speaker 1>We're really excited about it. And we said, oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>can only get him in live events, and people were

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<v Speaker 1>like leaving addresses in the comments section.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want you guys get in trouble, right Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to keep you guys saving home.

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<v Speaker 3>So what we're gonna do if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Are not a local person, you're not in the in Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>Maryland EMV right non Virginia, Maryland.

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<v Speaker 3>We have an email address.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, what's what's the name of god that he got

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<v Speaker 1>signed at gmail dot com? All right, so leave an

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<v Speaker 1>email to that to that to that email address with

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<v Speaker 1>your shirt size, shipping address, and name. Okay, will randomly

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<v Speaker 1>select twenty winners, uh for a free shirt, and five

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<v Speaker 1>of those will get a signed shirt by all three

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<v Speaker 1>of us. Is that right, Jason?

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<v Speaker 3>Do I say there correctly?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So, and also Jason has to go through the emails,

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<v Speaker 1>So no double dipping. One only request. If you put

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<v Speaker 1>multiple requests in, you're automatically elimiting. Get out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's make it easy for Jason.

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<v Speaker 3>But if they want one for thee and they son

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<v Speaker 3>they self and they I said they self.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they if they won't one for them and they son,

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<v Speaker 2>now we can't turn the keys that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we got to bring in the arbitrator here. Jason,

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<v Speaker 3>what do we got there?

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<v Speaker 2>Case by case? Babe?

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<v Speaker 4>Sell it to me that it's real. It's real, right,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean for me and my seven it's okays are

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<v Speaker 4>pretty trustworthy. I'm not worried about like guys are going

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<v Speaker 4>to pull fast ones on us. But like, if you

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<v Speaker 4>have an exorbitant request like that, like I, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>help me out with ye.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, we're trying to make sure we gets their

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<v Speaker 1>shirts merch out there. We're really excited about it. But

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<v Speaker 1>also that hawk outside at gmail dot com. You can

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<v Speaker 1>leave show ideas, leave comments, leave things you want us

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. Maybe ideas for like questions goes in

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<v Speaker 1>there because right now, guys, we're in silly season, silly

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<v Speaker 1>season meeting. There's nothing to talk about with the team,

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<v Speaker 1>right we got mini camp OTA's coming up. Those tend

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<v Speaker 1>to be close practices. So if there's something you want

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<v Speaker 1>us to talk about, leave it in there. We'll make

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<v Speaker 1>it happen.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a couple of people in the comments that

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<v Speaker 4>keep saying, Jason, make me an intern.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have this power.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely he's lying he can do that. Yeah, keep leaving comments.

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<v Speaker 4>But show me your production skills if there's some topics

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<v Speaker 4>dropping in there, and maybe.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh actually use some of their topics and then shouting

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<v Speaker 5>them out saying that you know this particular person.

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<v Speaker 6>Topic brought to you by Milton Johnson from PAS.

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<v Speaker 3>Why Milton Johnson because Milton sound like man he just

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<v Speaker 3>on the top of the head Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, you know Pennsylvania. That's a different culture.

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<v Speaker 6>Like everybody just think about Philadelphia, you think about the

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<v Speaker 6>big city, but that's a big old state.

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<v Speaker 5>Milton, all the names come on, touch up Johnson, Jebbadiah.

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<v Speaker 3>If your name is Milton Johnson, leave a comment at Mississippi.

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<v Speaker 5>It ain't no damn PA.

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<v Speaker 2>No p A is a Quaker state.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's so much.

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<v Speaker 6>Definitely, it's a lot of Jebbadiah's there now. They making

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of front.

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<v Speaker 3>Of you in PA. Believe that that's that's a great point. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So our producer doesn't want us to talk about this,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just want I have to talk about it,

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<v Speaker 3>please because you guys just have such good takes on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the guy the basketball player that said he can put.

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<v Speaker 1>On skin Rivers rivers Son okay, ost Rivers said he

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<v Speaker 1>could find thirty by football players they could play Football Today.

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<v Speaker 3>Show in the NFL. And then I'm not sure he said, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Say we can't five thirty football players, they could go

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<v Speaker 6>to the NBN.

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<v Speaker 3>I might be in the right out of here, but

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of agree with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo, how could you agree.

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<v Speaker 5>With I would say this? It's not that many. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a few guys in the NFL that can go

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<v Speaker 5>out there hoop, but when it comes to the level

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<v Speaker 5>of playing the NBA, it's is different, No, because a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of those guys are you know, you show this

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<v Speaker 5>guy on TV looks five ten and he's sixty three. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>still so so that part right there would take us out.

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<v Speaker 5>But I will say this just because we played football

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<v Speaker 5>first of all, Austin Rivers looking at it from I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know what Lindsey he's looking out of, but bro,

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<v Speaker 5>I see you guys can't get bumped in a basketball game.

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<v Speaker 5>You're talking about coming out here, putting on pass and

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<v Speaker 5>getting tackled. So that's the hard part for me to believe.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the physicality.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think you've seen there's a precedent set like

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen basketball players we have play in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a friend the NBA. Chris Carter could have

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<v Speaker 2>played in.

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<v Speaker 6>The n B, A t O could have played in

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<v Speaker 6>in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>All those listen to me.

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<v Speaker 1>T O is a streat hooper man, But you got

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a different skill set, man.

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<v Speaker 6>But we're stronged like hic on things. Where's our advantage

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<v Speaker 6>in this. First of all, we're gonna be faster than

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<v Speaker 6>everybody on the court. That's gonna be stronger than everybody

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<v Speaker 6>on the court.

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<v Speaker 1>The speed thing, I think is really interesting because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how fast those guys are. But when I

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<v Speaker 1>see like John wall or like d Wayne Wade when

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<v Speaker 1>he was rolling ris Brook thinking about it, Wesbrook like

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about them playing like receiver or something.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>Like Westbrook has the mentality, See they go to think

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<v Speaker 6>about it. Most of them don't have the mindset and

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<v Speaker 6>the mentality to be as rough as we are chaotic.

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<v Speaker 6>We are organized chaos. They are chaos organized. So at

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<v Speaker 6>the end of the day, it's gonna take the edgy ones.

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<v Speaker 6>Can Dennis Rotteney, Charles Oakley, Yes, yes, yes, yes they can.

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<v Speaker 6>But the other ones, Clayton Thompson, everybody my things.

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<v Speaker 2>You can.

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<v Speaker 5>You can put Rushbrook as one of those guys, and

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<v Speaker 5>even d Wade. But when you watch a guy have

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<v Speaker 5>to come out there and be coordinated the way we

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<v Speaker 5>are as a football player, it's totally different, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>when you separate yourself. But those guys are not going

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<v Speaker 5>to be able to come out there and do some

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<v Speaker 5>things we can do. I mean, we can go on

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<v Speaker 5>to basketball court and shoot. Yeah, probably can't go out

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<v Speaker 5>there and compete at that level with those guys because,

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<v Speaker 5>like I said before, the hight difference, But I just

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<v Speaker 5>don't see them come out there and being coordinated and

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<v Speaker 5>being able to take those hits.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw a couple of guys that you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, transit had you know, had had had a good

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<v Speaker 5>run at it, and to me, that was our red breeze.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's probably not that many football players that can

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<v Speaker 5>play basketball. But don't sit here thirty guys that game.

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<v Speaker 2>Once youball, you can't play football.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you play offensive line right six eighties. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>couple like, who's that? No, a fan who played for Houston.

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<v Speaker 1>Less you your basketball player in college?

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously different.

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<v Speaker 1>I played with Darren Fels, basketball player in college. But

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<v Speaker 1>it took Darren probably three years of like football specific

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half years of football specific training. You

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<v Speaker 1>got to even get a shot, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not like you could go from basketball to

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<v Speaker 1>football right now. Like you have to practice like and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's kind of the point you're making too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, if you wanted to take some guys from

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL go play basketball, they'd have to practice hooping,

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<v Speaker 1>like practice shooting and all that stuff. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think the athletically just because like the Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Graham's the World, the Antonio Gates the World, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's something there for sure. So I had to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that because I knew you had some sh fiery takes.

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<v Speaker 6>It had inch my keyaster because because I hear basketball

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<v Speaker 6>players saying it all the time, and my one thing

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<v Speaker 6>I say to them is the physicality alone.

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<v Speaker 1>You need, like you need to be a tough basketball player.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's an interesting kind of thought experiment too.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, but they can't run all that stuff on.

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<v Speaker 5>They can't go out there and be in that sun.

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<v Speaker 5>They indoor players, They're not going to want to be

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<v Speaker 5>out there in that heat and put on.

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<v Speaker 3>About Draymond Green, what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>We watched Draymond when Nick Stated was coaching Michigan State.

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<v Speaker 6>Draymond came out there tighty in the conorback asked him,

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<v Speaker 6>do you want some peanut butter with the jail and.

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<v Speaker 2>Jammed him turned down.

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<v Speaker 6>So what I'm saying, if anybody tough enough to play

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<v Speaker 6>in the NBA, the NFL, in the NBA right now

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<v Speaker 6>is Draymond is Draymond. Because he is very football mentality

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<v Speaker 6>on the court.

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<v Speaker 3>It'd be interesting to ask him what that experience was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, that's my guy.

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<v Speaker 5>I watched the film. Yes, I call a movie.

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<v Speaker 6>Number eighty eight. That's what he want out there. Don't

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<v Speaker 6>ever put on my curving number again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good number two. Just disrespected, all right, So

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to some commander and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they're through that.

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<v Speaker 1>So kind of a story that you know, we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about before the production meeting. I think it's interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like, what is it? What did what did

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<v Speaker 1>Ronnie say? It is interesting but not relevant or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that he used to say, that's life. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>decide whether this is one of those things. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So Jane Daniels wears number five in college or what

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<v Speaker 1>number five?

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<v Speaker 3>LSU the field? Who wears number five for this team?

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<v Speaker 2>Tresway pro Bola.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you say, Jaye Daniels asks for number five or

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<v Speaker 1>does he change his number? And if he does ask

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<v Speaker 1>for number five, how much would it take for Trust

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<v Speaker 1>to give him number five.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say this and.

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<v Speaker 1>Again we have no Just to be clear, we have

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<v Speaker 1>no insight on this. Not this might not even be

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<v Speaker 1>an issue.

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<v Speaker 6>We know how we were talking about, We know how

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<v Speaker 6>the numbers are traded in the locker room, we know

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<v Speaker 6>how it is.

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<v Speaker 5>Jane Dame's coming in. A young pup might not know

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<v Speaker 5>that Trust is a pro bowler. He looked at it

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<v Speaker 5>and say he's a kicker. He's gonna get a kicker.

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<v Speaker 5>Got that number he being because trust me, we all

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<v Speaker 5>went in the locker rooms as pups.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't know nobody. Ye herd names and that's it.

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<v Speaker 5>So he gonna hear that name trus Way has that

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<v Speaker 5>he's a kicker. Oh kicker. Oh, he'll give me that.

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<v Speaker 5>But not knowing that this is a pro bowler. This

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<v Speaker 5>is like the last three four or five years he

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<v Speaker 5>was the kick.

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<v Speaker 3>He's you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>So he probably gonna go up to him and shoot

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<v Speaker 5>his you know, shoot a shot like hey man, you

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<v Speaker 5>know I'm willing to pay for it, and Trust might

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<v Speaker 5>giggle like like you know again, Trusts probably gonna giggle

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<v Speaker 5>at him and say no, but it's not for sale.

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<v Speaker 5>And Jay might kind of get you know. But I

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<v Speaker 5>say all that to say this, if I was Trust,

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<v Speaker 5>I will think of a price, being that he's a

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<v Speaker 5>guy that should be respected. I'll say two hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I would look, I would just say a bees,

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<v Speaker 2>I would just oh my god, Hey.

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<v Speaker 5>I would just say, look from anywhere from two hundred

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<v Speaker 5>to one hundred thousand. Because of who Trust is and

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<v Speaker 5>knowing Trust is a good guy, I'm gonna give it

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<v Speaker 5>to him because you you the quarterback potentially.

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<v Speaker 6>Gonna be the you know, face the franchise.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the franchise, give me that two hundred for that

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<v Speaker 5>bad First.

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<v Speaker 1>Of all, what number would you say, because like if

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<v Speaker 1>you hear about receivers doing that kind of stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, do you think Trust would ask for two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think so. It depends on who you are,

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<v Speaker 5>and there's a lot of care. No, I'm saying this,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think he will either. I'm saying, if you

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<v Speaker 5>have the audacity to not know me, yeah, ask Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm charging them more because because you asked me and

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<v Speaker 5>you didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Know who I was.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what I'm gonna I'm gonna come in if I'm

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<v Speaker 6>Jay to be like Trust, I know who you is,

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<v Speaker 6>who you are respect a lot of your research. Jess

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<v Speaker 6>is good at number six, you would number five, And

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<v Speaker 6>I do our twenty thousand in logo with like that

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<v Speaker 6>ain't enough.

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<v Speaker 2>You do what two hundred thousand?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking like, Uh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>Because the one thing he has to do is, and

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<v Speaker 6>this won't take a lot of money, is if he

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<v Speaker 6>trades none. But the first thing that has to happen

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<v Speaker 6>is he has to buy all the Transtwait Jersey, right right,

0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.319
<v Speaker 6>So he had to buy the Transwait Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>The number for Kirk it was something like five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and five or six hundred thousand dollars because Cow is because.

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<v Speaker 6>Cow pits Jersey sales down there, but tresh Jersey is not.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't see a lot of people in trust Wait Jerseys.

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<v Speaker 5>So a lot of people not my commended stuff too.

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<v Speaker 6>But what I'm saying is, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 6>I think just our shirts for the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I started off at.

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<v Speaker 6>Twenty thousand, I would go fifty to seventy five thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the starting point. That's it.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think Trust would not have a Probably it

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<v Speaker 6>ain't like he gonna put on number say them and

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<v Speaker 6>started punning worse.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, never know, bro, that a superstitious superstitious you change

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<v Speaker 5>my number, boy in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>On what if? What if he turns to number nine

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<v Speaker 2>and just starts shinking him like you said, get it

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<v Speaker 2>out out, damn man, come back?

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<v Speaker 6>What happened if the first two kick man out of Byron?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, at worse, I want want to see j

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<v Speaker 2>J names in fifteen?

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<v Speaker 3>Better?

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<v Speaker 5>What fifteen until time?

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<v Speaker 2>I cringe when I see fifty. I mean because if he.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't get fired, was he gonna get I get fifteen?

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<v Speaker 6>I just when I see fifteen, I think about Tim

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<v Speaker 6>Tebow's It left like a taste in my mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Jay needs a single digit after meeting him, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's not He's not a small guy, he's tall,

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<v Speaker 1>but like he like that single digit.

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<v Speaker 2>Just look, so get him give him one. Then now

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about dots.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm saying I forgot about gonna want.

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<v Speaker 2>I gonna want way more, Mike. I think that negotiations

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<v Speaker 2>just need to start.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm saying, Like this is when the

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<v Speaker 6>gootiate stored when you say down by your locker and

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<v Speaker 6>he turned that way to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, what's gonna take? What's gonna take?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you start?

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<v Speaker 1>So, if I'm trusting you're you're Jaden, what's the like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the intro? I'm sitting here with the intro. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you mine with okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Put. I came to that thing. I saw that eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, damn, they gave me eighty nine?

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<v Speaker 2>Why that?

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm like, who got eighty three? Ain't stressed? I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 5>he in the receiver room. I God, damn. I walk

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<v Speaker 5>up on.

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<v Speaker 2>John said, hey, James and James good dude. Right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>James came to me. Before I even got.

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<v Speaker 5>Out of my mind, I already know you wanted eighty three, hungh.

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<v Speaker 5>I said, yeah, Bro, I mean I'm willing to pay.

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<v Speaker 5>He say, let me pray on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus, Hey, what Jesus to you?

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<v Speaker 5>Was almost over. James came to me and was like, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 5>Jesus told me that I prayed on him, bro, and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm willing to give it to you. And I said, guess what.

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<v Speaker 5>I prayed on it too, And I came up. I

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<v Speaker 5>wore eighty three in high school and I WoT six

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<v Speaker 5>in college.

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<v Speaker 2>Together.

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<v Speaker 5>That's eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 5>He said, damn, bro, that's good, and it made it

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<v Speaker 5>was like he was fend number. No he didn't, he did.

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna give him something, James, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Just got paid. What would you have given him?

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<v Speaker 5>Probably south to seventy five to fifty, but I probably

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<v Speaker 5>gave him around like fifty thousand for Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>That's me out of respect. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I knew

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<v Speaker 2>James Strass. I knew of him growing up.

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<v Speaker 5>James Thrass was a guy that I always had a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of you know, I praised him a lot, especially

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<v Speaker 5>when we was playing together, Like he would come in

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<v Speaker 5>third down and get missing on you. You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I came out of game one time, Coach, give

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<v Speaker 5>met me down. This is my first year. I'm tired, Bro,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm exhausted. I'm walking on the side and I was

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<v Speaker 5>third down. I had no clue.

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<v Speaker 2>Coach.

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<v Speaker 5>He just walking on down and say this play for you.

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<v Speaker 5>He better he better catch it. Like I go, like

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<v Speaker 5>out there, I look at James stra I said, oh, James,

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<v Speaker 5>that caught a like a litt I forgot the little route,

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<v Speaker 5>a little flat route. He came in motion.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember house called I remember you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm like, and guess what. That opened up the

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<v Speaker 5>playbook for James Strass for the rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 5>He ran that route for us on third down and

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<v Speaker 5>he couldn't. I mean, they would not stop him. So

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of look at it like, damn, he took

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<v Speaker 5>a little from me. But at the same time I

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<v Speaker 5>was willing to give that up because he's a guy

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<v Speaker 5>that deserved that.

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<v Speaker 2>But when when Jade sits down, ask me.

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<v Speaker 3>I trusting, got my stuff up and put my cleats on.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you come over you say, I'm gonna sit down,

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<v Speaker 2>look at you once or twice?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you want?

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<v Speaker 5>I want that. He ain't gonna say it.

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<v Speaker 6>I want want the FIZZI them feel you understand me?

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<v Speaker 2>What it's gonna take.

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<v Speaker 6>Just when negotiation starts, t's gonna be like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I made the Pro Bowl in the Jersey.

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<v Speaker 5>This just on the number.

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<v Speaker 1>Wonder if Trust would even ask you mean trust good dude, man,

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<v Speaker 1>really care about nothing but that number?

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<v Speaker 5>You know how numbers I don't trust ask. I think trust.

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<v Speaker 5>Trust has the his sense of human probably like mine,

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<v Speaker 5>like yours. On steroids.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's so dress.

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<v Speaker 5>Trash would come to him and Trust would say, look,

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<v Speaker 5>man tell me something.

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<v Speaker 2>They tell me what you want to Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>He would tell him to throw the number out there,

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<v Speaker 5>and if he likes it or not, he'll probably give

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<v Speaker 5>it to us.

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<v Speaker 2>That's me expecually.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, you're right, one hundred thousand ain't much when

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<v Speaker 6>you just got forty me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. I can tell you know

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<v Speaker 2>a dinty well the number two pig. It's about thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five forty is it's so you're somewhere in there. Well

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<v Speaker 2>we look makes a cap now, cap now. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just saying it's a good, a good lord, don't be garrants.

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<v Speaker 3>It's over. It's over twenty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>So he's gonna be fine. I just think it's one

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<v Speaker 6>of the things because most people don't know. My first

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<v Speaker 6>week here, I wore twenty three, twenty three the Michael

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<v Speaker 6>Jordan that was.

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<v Speaker 3>My That sounds gross, yeah it does, it does.

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<v Speaker 6>But guess what hell rogers no, no, d twenty three

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<v Speaker 6>oh columns with twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>So the thing about it was the was still here

0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:58.040
<v Speaker 2>at the time.

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<v Speaker 5>Them was twenty one.

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<v Speaker 6>So when did he leave like a week later, right

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<v Speaker 6>like we did rookie Minicamp. At the rooky Minicamp, all

0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:08.320
<v Speaker 6>the whole team got together. Mart Schemenheimen was our coach.

0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.040
<v Speaker 6>Deon didn't want to play for Marty, so de Young

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<v Speaker 6>was always telling me, I'm finna retire you, dude. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to give you my locker. I'm fin to

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<v Speaker 6>give my jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fini j I was like, oh, I'm fin the

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<v Speaker 2>J Walker. You finish J Walker.

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<v Speaker 6>So I knew what I was finding it to one consist, No,

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<v Speaker 6>my wonting one period.

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<v Speaker 3>Jason's got the number.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, these are none of this is official. This is

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<v Speaker 4>all like, but it's it's expected to be a four years,

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<v Speaker 4>thirty seven point seven million for Jason, where in there

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<v Speaker 4>Caleb will get thirty nine point four thirty six point.

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<v Speaker 5>Six to the nearest hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I remember four years twenty two point eight.

0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:52.920
<v Speaker 3>When Cam got drafted. There was captured twenty two.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know in these.

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<v Speaker 2>Years, Sam Bradford, Sam came out. He was the last

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five. He got like sixty five million, get the

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<v Speaker 2>first pick.

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<v Speaker 5>Sam Bradford, he was the reason why they kept it

0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:07.000
<v Speaker 5>because they were like.

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<v Speaker 2>This Sam Bradford, Kirk cousin, the same guy. Listen to me, same,

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<v Speaker 2>It's been way better than six.

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<v Speaker 4>Years seventy eight million.

0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god for Sam Bradford's worse.

0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:20.760
<v Speaker 5>And they said I'm sick of it.

0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm sick of it. Next year we cap it.

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<v Speaker 6>They didn't captin it. And listen, man, imagine what that

0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.440
<v Speaker 6>would be today. If kayleb wings with number one, he

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<v Speaker 6>would have got a hundred million.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he was a top five paid quarterback that

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<v Speaker 3>year or something like.

0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he was top five. I hadn't played a day,

0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.879
<v Speaker 2>played it down. That's that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>So if i'm transway, give me a hundred one hundred,

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<v Speaker 6>give me a hundred thousand. I can put it in

0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:45.840
<v Speaker 6>my child, you know, trust.

0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Fun prepay for my kids.

0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:47.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah whatever.

0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:50.840
<v Speaker 5>Tress is a smart man, so I expect him to

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<v Speaker 5>have less sense of humor about it. Yeah, like I say,

0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.080
<v Speaker 5>he gonna tell him probably the thrower that throw him

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<v Speaker 5>a number. And to me as a as a young

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<v Speaker 5>buck coming in there out of respect, you got to

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<v Speaker 5>say from that range, I said, at least six a hundred.

0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.199
<v Speaker 5>But if he's coming there and don't know me two

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<v Speaker 5>hundred because you won't did two hundred.

0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:12.440
<v Speaker 6>Tres had to put on number nineteen. They're gonna repercussion

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<v Speaker 6>much numbers is not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like that's what I was saying. It's no numbers

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<v Speaker 2>out there that's gonna fit trust. Who is he always been?

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<v Speaker 2>He was five and up Arizona State?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't think he was always five here though,

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<v Speaker 5>because they wasn't winning. Look up Trusts numbers when he

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<v Speaker 5>played when when we all played together with Tress, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Think he was five five.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't because know McNab had five one year, but

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<v Speaker 5>test one here Trust.

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<v Speaker 2>Was after that.

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<v Speaker 3>It was two years after that.

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<v Speaker 5>War, five after McNab. Do I think one of the

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<v Speaker 5>quarterbacks after McNab had five?

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<v Speaker 3>Did Patrick White were five?

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<v Speaker 2>Did he Patrick?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm talking about the West Via five nine something like

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<v Speaker 6>that trade Vandostin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, most definitely gonna be the gift they kept on.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's probably better today in today's game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he would be. He was like your boy man

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<v Speaker 2>who played and played at Florida.

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<v Speaker 5>Johnoe is Green, you know from Virginia up here? What

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<v Speaker 5>the kid name is who played played Percy Harvey Percony

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<v Speaker 5>Harvey like they was like person Harvey's a different bill,

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<v Speaker 5>different gear, but they was like electric field. They were

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<v Speaker 5>like they was like Bush playering receiver.

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<v Speaker 4>What we got Jason so Jane and Daniels is always

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<v Speaker 4>worn number five?

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, what about Chase?

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<v Speaker 4>Trust?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, Trust can Chase one.

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<v Speaker 3>No problem.

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<v Speaker 4>He's always worn number five here. But okay, at uh

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<v Speaker 4>it says Chicago he was with Chicago was number one,

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<v Speaker 4>which he can't be because John is here. But when

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<v Speaker 4>he was at Oklahoma he was number thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hey, he should just put on cooler number and

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<v Speaker 2>just be for the sales.

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<v Speaker 6>I know, trust, he's an idiot, So if he changed numbers,

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<v Speaker 6>it's not gonna be from five to six.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna go from five.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I kind of don't want to see Trust have

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<v Speaker 5>to change because I feel like it's just something you

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<v Speaker 5>have to say. He's a you know, but it's hard

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<v Speaker 5>to see. Jayde did not come in and like.

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<v Speaker 1>I do also think it's good when a young guy

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<v Speaker 1>comes in and can like re establish their identity.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm saying this that was college. This is here.

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<v Speaker 5>But or like I say, they might say, hey, Jaden,

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<v Speaker 5>you I got and five is gonna be waiting on

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<v Speaker 5>you when he leaves.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true, right right now.

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<v Speaker 5>We gotta let him ride this thing up. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 5>he's a pro bowler, man, he's a guy that's to

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<v Speaker 5>be one of the better, the bettert the best punter

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<v Speaker 5>in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>So you gotta gotta live with it.

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<v Speaker 6>I would come here is the number two picks. Say

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<v Speaker 6>it's punt in the league.

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<v Speaker 3>You were the number two picks. That would be a

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<v Speaker 3>nightmare for everybody.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, at the same but I'm just saying, if I'm

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<v Speaker 6>the quarterback, man.

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<v Speaker 3>It's true quarterback. That's a little bit like that.

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<v Speaker 2>This I'm the governess.

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<v Speaker 5>It's more than shoulders.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to see him in number nine. I

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<v Speaker 2>think nine to look good on him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>He was also thirty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Trust trust Yeah, he was just.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a bunch of numbers. He's a pun They just

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<v Speaker 2>gave him a number in high school.

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<v Speaker 3>He was thirty.

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<v Speaker 4>It was number thirty. You were one year at Oklah.

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<v Speaker 1>We should ask him, we should get to trust on

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<v Speaker 1>here and ask him if he'd switch numbers. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's going to do it for the number talk basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>number talk football. If you have a thought on that,

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<v Speaker 1>what number would you take to change your number? Please

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<v Speaker 1>send an email to that hawk outside at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>How much would it take?

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<v Speaker 3>How much would it take? Leave a comment?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, So now we're talking undrafted free agents.

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<v Speaker 1>We've done a lot of draft talk, and so for

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<v Speaker 1>this segment, if you want a more detailed kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rendition of each player, we did that on Ticket of

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<v Speaker 1>the Draft, which is on Apple and Spotify, right Jason,

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<v Speaker 1>So you can listen to that there and then I'll

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<v Speaker 1>come out on Friday. But in the meantime, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about just high level free agents. You guys played for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, saw a lot of undrafted free agent rookies.

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<v Speaker 3>What was your perception.

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<v Speaker 1>Of those guys coming in because obviously the drafted guys

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<v Speaker 1>were kind of held in a little different standard, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like they came in they had like special not special treatment,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were treated a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Differently than the US.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what was your as guys that were established a locker?

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<v Speaker 1>What was your view of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Group of guys?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, when I first got into the league, I cared

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<v Speaker 5>less about who was who I still I mean, throughout

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<v Speaker 5>my years, I cared less, but I really even knew

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<v Speaker 5>who was undrafted, who was drafted. I feel like we

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<v Speaker 5>was all there. So at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, we're all on the team. But the crazy

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<v Speaker 5>part about it, my first four years in New York,

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<v Speaker 5>I hung out with the undrafted guys more than the

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<v Speaker 5>guys on the team, like more than the And it's

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<v Speaker 5>crazy because one of the guys are he's now here.

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<v Speaker 5>In Howard coaching Tory Woodbury, I mentioned his name was

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<v Speaker 5>a quarterback. He was the Mike Vick of Black College,

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<v Speaker 5>so he was. He went to Winston Stalem University. I

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<v Speaker 5>remember seeing him in the draft when they was talking

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<v Speaker 5>about picking him up, you know, when other teams was

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<v Speaker 5>looking at him. And then he ended up coming to

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<v Speaker 5>the Jets as an undrafted guy, but they talked highly

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<v Speaker 5>about who he was, and so when I got there,

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<v Speaker 5>he basically like me and him just like he's a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a receiver, and we hung out. He made the

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<v Speaker 5>team as a receiver slash special teams guy, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>But when you look back at it now, all these years,

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<v Speaker 5>another guy came in, he was undrafted, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>we was cool. So I care less about those guys

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<v Speaker 5>being undrafted or not. And I never really especially when

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<v Speaker 5>I got my name, you know, started playing goodball. I

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<v Speaker 5>never looked down those guys because there was a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of guys that will come in that you say, how

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 5>did that guy not get drafted? You understand. So just

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<v Speaker 5>because they're undrafted refreging, don't mean that they not draft

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<v Speaker 5>worthy or they wasn't a guy that should have been drafted.

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<v Speaker 5>Things happen.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Hey, only two hundred plus of us can

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<v Speaker 2>get drafted. They don't mean it ain't a back though

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<v Speaker 2>into the league.

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<v Speaker 6>Antonio Pierce came in our rookie year undrafted free agent,

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<v Speaker 6>end up winning the Super Bowl. Now he's the head

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<v Speaker 6>coach of the Raiders. I love guys that weather the

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<v Speaker 6>storm because it's not easy for any of us as

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<v Speaker 6>a rookie. But if you are undrafted free agent, it's

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<v Speaker 6>almost no hope.

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<v Speaker 5>Almost.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I see them dig, they weigh out.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just respect. I was always treated everybody saying people

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<v Speaker 6>already know they had up. You could come knock on

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 6>my do it Ino town. I'm opening the door. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't care who he is.

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<v Speaker 2>We know how they was.

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<v Speaker 6>Because people don't understand how it feels to be in

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<v Speaker 6>the middle locker like timporary locker.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about that for a second. It's like downstairs. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>at least says they used to do it right. So

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<v Speaker 1>the guys on the team had the outside locker, which

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:19.880
<v Speaker 1>is like the one you see on TV where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like got the nice you can sit in it, you

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 1>can put your stuff in there, and then in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle for the UDFA guys. And so like when I

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:30.720
<v Speaker 1>came in, I was UDFA guy. Trent had his own locker.

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<v Speaker 1>He was over there right like Perry Riley. All the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that got drafted had their own locker, and then

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:38.439
<v Speaker 1>your boy was in a metal locker in the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, oh, this is not good. This is

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:43.920
<v Speaker 1>not a real locker. So how do I get from

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 1>this locker to that locker? And then when I was

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 1>in Chicago, what they used to do is they used

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<v Speaker 1>to put the ud F as in a different.

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<v Speaker 2>Locker room, same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I j so you're like, so it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, how do I actually get into the real locker room?

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<v Speaker 1>So it is a little bit tough, but yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, did you you look at those lockers

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<v Speaker 1>and be like damn.

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:07.479
<v Speaker 6>No, I didn't because I knew as quick as they

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 6>could be cut drafted guys and guys that been here

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 6>for six years when that reaper entered the locker room

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 6>and I holler out dead man walking, like it doesn't

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:19.439
<v Speaker 6>matter if you're in the middle of locker or not.

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<v Speaker 6>Like I said, I always endeared to those guys. I

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.080
<v Speaker 6>always made friends with those guys. So at the end

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 6>of the day, it didn't matter how you got here,

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<v Speaker 6>as long as you was here. And I also knew

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 6>for most coaches I played with, they didn't care either,

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<v Speaker 6>Like if you're better than the guy we drafted, we're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna keep you.

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 2>We're not keeping him.

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<v Speaker 6>So I had a lot of respect for those guys

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 6>and Antonio Pierce's of the world, the London Fletchers of

0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:43.720
<v Speaker 6>the world. So it don't matter how you started in

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:45.400
<v Speaker 6>this game, itn't matter how you finished, man.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, honestly, like I looked at those lockers, that's

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 5>just it's training. Come.

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a bunch of bodies in here.

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 5>I didn't, you know, I really never really paid attention

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:56.360
<v Speaker 5>to who was in them and who wasn't. I thought

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:58.919
<v Speaker 5>it was so many young guys came in here at

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<v Speaker 5>the end of the day, whether they draft draft picks

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 5>or not, they got to go somewhere because we got

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:04.879
<v Speaker 5>a whole team of people that's still here. So I

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 5>never really looked individually of who was in that locker

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 5>until they started coming up missing, you know, once you

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 5>started seeing them open them anything, I'm like, well, damn,

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.120
<v Speaker 5>he wasn't a draft pick or he didn't have any

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, he didn't carry any weight for him to

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 5>make the team. And so that's when you start paying

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 5>attention more. But man, I could just imagine, bro, like

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 5>we need to be asking you how it feel to because.

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 6>How doesn't feel the pressure every day knowing I could

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 6>wake up and this could be my LaDue line.

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<v Speaker 3>It was tough, man, it was.

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:34.479
<v Speaker 1>It was really tough because like those like for you

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 1>guys didn't matter maybe, but like for me, every day

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>it was like every day I went to that metal locker,

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:41.119
<v Speaker 1>I was like, damn, you know, like you could be

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 1>out of here tomorrow. And so you're always kind of

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.159
<v Speaker 1>thinking about like draft picks, and you know, obviously the

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>first probably three first three rounds or guys that are

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>going to make the team because they made an investment.

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>But like my year, they had drafted a guy in

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the fifth round that they were really high on, and

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 1>like you're saying Fred, like he wasn't working out the

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>way they wanted. I was having a good camp and

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>it switched and I ended up making the team over him,

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and they ended up cutting him. But like, you get

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>penalized as a team for cutting draft picks, so there

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 1>are there are incentives to keep the likes. So for example,

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>they got in trouble for this, but they trade. They

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>swapped draft picks with the Saint Louis Rams at the time,

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>so they could cut their pick and then we could

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 1>cut the Saint Louis could cut our pick and with

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 1>no penalty. But you get because the contract of a

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 1>draft pick is guaranteed. Uh, three fourths of the contracts guaranteed.

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 1>So for me, they cut me and it's like thanks,

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 1>thanks for coming by, like we appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was tough.

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>And again like understanding that they had made an investment

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>in those players, they'd picked those players with valuable assets,

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and I was just kind of a guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Was tough.

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<v Speaker 6>How did you go out your way not to like

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<v Speaker 6>cause we always practice all us practice. No, once you're

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<v Speaker 6>on a team, you used to get practiced with it.

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 6>I can't make a mistake mentality, but damn.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so the best way I could explain it

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 1>because I had to do like rookie mentoring when I

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>was in Atlanta, Like I would talk to the rookies

0:28:58.200 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 1>when they'd come in, And the best way I could

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<v Speaker 1>explain it, it's like you're a dog on a leash. Right,

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>So if your first round draft pick, Man, you're out

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<v Speaker 1>in the yard. Man, there's no fence, go out, do

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 1>what you gotta do. You could mess up, yeah, chew

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<v Speaker 1>up the porch, whatever you want to do as a

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<v Speaker 1>as a U d f A, you are tied to

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>that stake in the yard if you mess up, if

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>you get too far, like get out of here, right,

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>So i'd be here with udfa's you thought, oh I

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<v Speaker 1>made it, I made the team, and then it's like, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>like you cannot do what he's doing because they're gonna

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be patient with him. They're not gonna be

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>patient with you. Because I hate to break it to you,

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>there are probably seven hundred to you floating around the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And so like that's why I have a lot of respect,

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, Fletch, you mentioned Pierce, you know, and played

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<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of guys that made the teams udf

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>as because like you have such a tight like such

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>a such a it's like your thread the needle, small

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 1>window right, and you gotta you gotta cant. And so

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it was like the guy they drafted didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do what he was supposed to do, an older guy

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.719
<v Speaker 1>got hurt, and then they h two older guys got hurt,

0:29:57.760 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>and so then there was like, oh, shoot, like here

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>it is. That's a lot of luck, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember being asked and it's crazy that we're talking

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 5>about this because it's just you know, and I'm always

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 5>to want the brain freezers, you know. But you talked

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 5>so long it gave me time to think about it.

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 5>I remember being okay, that was a little like that

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 5>by the way you talk, you know, we actually questioned,

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 5>we askually the question. I wanted to hear your take

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<v Speaker 5>on the note. But I remember one of the guys

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<v Speaker 5>like after year ten or something like that. For me,

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<v Speaker 5>he's no longer in the league. We're talking. He's like, man,

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<v Speaker 5>I always wonder like why you were so cool with us,

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 5>Like Bro like, why would you? And he was hanging

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<v Speaker 5>out with me for my birthdays. He's like, Tenne, man,

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:36.479
<v Speaker 5>you're still taking care of me. Bro, all these years,

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 5>I tell I tell my folks, man, I came in

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 5>I want even a drift pick. Tenn of had me staying.

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 5>I stayed at Tennel House for four years, like and

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 5>I thought about it. I said, Bro, do you know

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<v Speaker 5>not not know how I came into college? I was

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<v Speaker 5>you in college walk on, And I tell you that

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 5>the way I felt every day came I couldn't eat

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 5>with these guys. I couldn't. It was like they were

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 5>showing you that you here. So I'm like, when I

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<v Speaker 5>got to the league and saw you got it wasn't

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 5>like you was uh walk on or undrafted free agent.

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 5>I looked at you as a guy like I wanted.

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 5>I wanted to make sure you knew that I accepted

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 5>you if no one else did. So you know what

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 5>I mean. So that's one of the reasons that I've

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 5>always kind of took care of those people and made

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 5>sure that they knew, like, hey, bro, let's go out

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.479
<v Speaker 5>here and work. And when if I can give you

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 5>that energy to say that's going out here and work

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 5>and maybe you know better. Your chances are going out

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 5>to compete and get looked at, and hey, I did

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<v Speaker 5>my part.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember Johnny U. Banks?

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 3>Like you?

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 6>Banks was undrafted, familiar, all right, and I'll never forget.

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 6>We were playing against the Chicago Bear Blue forheaded hell

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 6>of a game.

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 2>The two picks everything. I end up by the third

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<v Speaker 2>quarter full body cramp.

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<v Speaker 6>I literally go into the locker room and I'm watching

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 6>the game as I sit on the table with the Bees.

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 6>They put Johnny U. Banks in in my place Chicago

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 6>of course, fresh meat. They're going right ad and right

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<v Speaker 6>in and right in them, and I'm sitting there like

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 6>I can't let them do Johnny. You bangs like that,

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 6>because just if I go out here, I don't need

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 6>to be helping. They'll still respect. I get off the table,

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 6>tell the train of some kind of lie. I run

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 6>back in, run and get back in the game. They

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 6>take Johnny out, but I just wasn't gonna let I

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 6>want to protect. I know if he gets in here

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 6>and he continue to me, he might not be on

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 6>this team out of there.

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy.

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 2>He was a good guy too.

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 3>You're a real one for that, I'll tell you you. No, No,

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<v Speaker 3>A lot ofdes wouldn't do that.

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 2>No, I know they wouldn't do it. And that's how

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 2>I felt last year.

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<v Speaker 6>They kind of left my guy for us hanging guns.

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 6>At the end of the day, we supposed to protect

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<v Speaker 6>each other. And I know if I was having a

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<v Speaker 6>bad game as a rookie, d Green a champ would

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 6>have came over there and say, hey, let me help,

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 6>let me take this goog this guy, you just go

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<v Speaker 6>to the ConA right now.

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 5>I got you.

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 3>No, I think that's exactly right. So we got a

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 3>couple of ud FA's here the sign. What's the number ten? Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>any of.

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 1>These guys that kind of stick out to you is

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of say, hey, man, this guy might be fun

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to keep an eye on. And again we go deeper

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>dive on Ticket to the Draft podcast which comes on

0:32:59.880 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>on on Friday. But these guys, you're like, man, this

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 1>is what I want you to keep it eye.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I want you to do.

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<v Speaker 6>Keep your wife and your girlfriend away from Sam Hartman.

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<v Speaker 6>Start let's start there, all right, I don't know if

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 6>to jump off, let's start there.

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 2>If Sam makes the team or not, he will be

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<v Speaker 2>in the DMV. Are all is what I'm saying is

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 2>this he is a heart throb. Let's start there.

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<v Speaker 3>All.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I can't think of this guy name man,

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<v Speaker 5>but I'm pretty sure you'all gonna have me. Oh, I

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 5>guess he broke it down right here for me.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, jay O, Go go Woo Google, Google, David Woo, Google,

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<v Speaker 7>David Woo Google six five, three.

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<v Speaker 5>Hundred and one pounds. And he's gonna be playing with lineman.

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 5>He's gonna tackle tackle switch player to me, I just

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<v Speaker 5>got to keep you out on.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you know Google Woo, Google, I love it.

0:33:55.600 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I want to hear that's the guy.

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<v Speaker 6>But hey, Coaston Yankoff, Yankoff, who First of all, he's

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 6>a He used to play tailback, he used to return punts,

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 6>lay quarterback, he played quarterback everything. But we're going to

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 6>play him at tight end. Like so they tell you

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 6>what type of athlete this dude is. I think if

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 6>anybody has a chance undrafted free agent to make this team,

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 6>it's him Yankoff. Like he's the guy that you have

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:29.839
<v Speaker 6>to because they're all about athletics, score and what can

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:32.799
<v Speaker 6>you do? When I look on this, he can do

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 6>more than most of the people on here. He's not

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:37.439
<v Speaker 6>singlar in anyway. And I think you have a better

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 6>chance to make this team if you play more than

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:40.240
<v Speaker 6>one position.

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think he so.

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I if I remember he serves, he played running back,

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 1>tight end, he was a return man, he played all

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:46.919
<v Speaker 1>four special teams.

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 3>He played a little linebacker.

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>He transferred from U dub as a quarterback, and so

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 1>like they couldn't. He's just a big athletic, that'sletic guy.

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:54.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 1>So like maybe, like you're saying, Fred, find a way

0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:58.799
<v Speaker 1>to get him some touches like he was. I think

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>he led the team in special team tackle. So obviously, yeah,

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 1>team's value. I definitely got to keep an eye on

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:06.799
<v Speaker 1>for sure. Got another guy Colorado State. I'm calling them

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>ce out the gate. I ain't trying to mess his

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>name up, said Chogaga's a Cheagozi chegoziw him Like I

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 5>I like that Chegozi in the Newseum coming back for

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 5>three nine forty Uh. I mean all the intelligents when

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:23.879
<v Speaker 5>you look at six to one two hundred physic school,

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:25.839
<v Speaker 5>you watch his film, he won those guys. I looked

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:27.879
<v Speaker 5>him up because I'm going over this list last night.

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 5>I love when you give us this stuff before here,

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:34.439
<v Speaker 5>I get a chance to go and lookuse somebody watch

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:35.240
<v Speaker 5>you know what I'm saying.

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 2>I went and put up film. I'm like, Oh, he

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 2>gonna make the team. And then I find out they

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 2>gave him a little nice stifen.

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 5>You know, they give you a nice little stipend. They

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:45.240
<v Speaker 5>got good intent, they invested in you for a reason.

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:49.320
<v Speaker 5>So for him to be a free agent, under undrafted

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 5>free agent, that's always an eye raiser right now.

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 3>Raise that's a big one for me to just knowing that, damn, we're.

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 5>Giving him a couple of dollars because we believe a

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 5>little something more than.

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:58.279
<v Speaker 2>What we don't want nobody else to get them.

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I think you got paid them of any undrafted rookie

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>year he was and there was a little bitting war

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 1>between him here and Denver. Yeah, we won fifty thousand dollars.

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 1>That's a big deal. And I think some of his

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>contracts guaranteed another big deal for him. So my guy

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Tanna mention it like moves well, pretty instinctive efforts, a

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>little up and down, but the frame, the profile, the

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 1>athletic it's all there. Another guy that I think is

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 1>super interesting, just like just incredibly interesting. Is Tyler Allens

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 1>from Texas Tech. So he transferred from Texas. He's never

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 1>really played safety until last year, a little up and

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 1>down weird angles.

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 2>You know what he played before that was the corner linebacker.

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I think he played star for them, alright, hybrid. But

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:41.839
<v Speaker 1>the thing about him is he is a teams guy. Yeah,

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 1>but he's literally may like this is not an exaggeration.

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 1>He might be the most explosive person ever in the history.

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 3>Of the combine.

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 5>I've seen a damn broad jump.

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:54.399
<v Speaker 2>Twelve two, twelve to two. That's incredible, giant.

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then he had a forty one inch.

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Vertical that's no one inch under me?

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Stop? What was your vertical?

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Forty two?

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god? I jumped up and I ain't come

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:05.720
<v Speaker 3>down with thank you Jason.

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, did I even say? Jason just pulled out

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>his phone right away, because that's that's the kind of guy.

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 1>So he's six to two, he's two fifteen, he's got

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 1>thirty three and a quarter inch arms, Like, dude is

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 1>built in the labeah and so again.

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Teams value.

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>But when you see him, like I was watching filming

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 1>him the other night, I was like, damn, like this

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 1>dude looks like a linebacker playing safety.

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 3>Again, very raw, but but.

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:28.799
<v Speaker 2>That's what you want.

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:32.880
<v Speaker 1>But Carver Carver roll as a team with crazy athletic upside.

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:34.359
<v Speaker 1>So that's someone I would just say, hey, man, keep

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:34.760
<v Speaker 1>an eye.

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:35.359
<v Speaker 5>On him now now.

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Also now, because I watched a lot of Georgia football.

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Rose Jack's sat Saint. Yes, I like him a lot.

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:47.399
<v Speaker 6>I've been saying, like, he just one of those guys

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 6>that you know, he didn't play high level football, you know,

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 6>he got overshadowed by a lot of draft picks, and

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 6>he's one of those guys that remind me of Cam.

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:57.359
<v Speaker 2>Seems in a way.

0:37:57.560 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's a great car.

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:00.799
<v Speaker 6>What I'm saying remind me of Cam Seems to where

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 6>he the type guy that could get on the roster

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:06.439
<v Speaker 6>and just stick. Yeah, just always be there. So so yeah,

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:07.399
<v Speaker 6>so he one of those guys.

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 5>I mean, anytime you look at a guy and he

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:12.839
<v Speaker 5>had zero drop passes since twenty twenty two, Yeah, that's

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 5>an eye raiser, right, That's the eyebrod raiser. So I'm like,

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:16.319
<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm with you with that. But you know what,

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 5>one of the things about it too, you gotta think

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 5>about it. You know, you're gonna always find a guy

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 5>that if he can be specially on special teams. Yeah,

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 5>and he plays a receiving position.

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:23.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 5>And he's a bingo ahead gunner.

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:27.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a he's a tough son of a gun.

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I had a draft table grade on him, honestly.

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:30.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I think he had some medical stuff like a knee

0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:34.719
<v Speaker 1>shue or something that might have made it tough. But

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 1>as far as the football of the film, yeah, I

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 1>thought had a very solid senior ball. I thought he

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:39.760
<v Speaker 1>was consistent of Georgia.

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:40.759
<v Speaker 3>Not the guy there.

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:42.799
<v Speaker 6>And what I say, like when you when you go

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:44.800
<v Speaker 6>to these big schools and you not the guy, so

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:49.399
<v Speaker 6>matchin being in Miami and they got Tana and how

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 6>many more receivers in you the fifth guy. It don't

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:54.359
<v Speaker 6>mean you can't play. It's just a deep ride receiving guy.

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 5>You gotta think. We had me Reggie, Wayne, Andre King,

0:38:57.640 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 5>and Daryl Jones and Andre Whiston was coming in as

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:02.760
<v Speaker 5>a third and fourth guy.

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 2>So this imagine that.

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 5>This year up all the famet this year, Well he

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 5>just he got taken it and he was he was

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 5>a guy coming off the bench, you know what I mean.

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:16.360
<v Speaker 5>So and like so That's how it is when you

0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 5>have those teams and just imagine that those Alabama or

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 5>wide receiver rooms.

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 2>You know what, all these.

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 5>Guys in the league now they are playing a high

0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:26.799
<v Speaker 5>level that you had to basically waste your turn.

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 3>That's something we'll talk about more, probably on a later show.

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:31.839
<v Speaker 3>But I think in terms of positions that are going

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 3>to be super interesting, like receiver, especially like those four

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 3>six guys.

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 2>You know who is gonna be you Need You Need

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 2>you Miami.

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.960
<v Speaker 3>What's gonna happen impact the tight end room? Like all

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 3>these guys.

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 6>James and crowded, how it's gonna happen, Like you're right,

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.359
<v Speaker 6>them last three spots in their receiver room, It's gonna

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 6>be a fight for those.

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 1>And so that's where I think that like a guy

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 1>like Jack Saint could maybe make it happen.

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, because.

0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 2>We don't know what they're looking for.

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 6>He has a body type it's big that he don't

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 6>have to compete against in that room.

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I think he would be the tallest guy, right.

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 3>He's six to two. I think he's one hundred and

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 3>seventy five times because which.

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Was six feet six Luke McCaffrey sixty two.

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:15.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean he's sixty one and five eighths.

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:21.439
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, technically so maybe, but uh but yeah.

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 1>And so the other one is the DB's like, we

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 1>got all these kind of dbs that are flex.

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:28.879
<v Speaker 1>That's why I think Owens is such an interesting guy.

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:30.719
<v Speaker 1>But the guy that no one said that I wanted

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:33.359
<v Speaker 1>to call attention to is a guy Noral Pollard from

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.839
<v Speaker 1>Virginia Tech, defensive tackle. And I watched the film head

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:39.400
<v Speaker 1>him last night and talk about a defensive not a

0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 1>big guy.

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 3>I think he's I saw something in the city's six

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:45.919
<v Speaker 3>foot He's six foot two, five pounds. Not a big man,

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 3>but he.

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Has the juice as a pass rusher man, he's got

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the juice. And so in a scheme defensively, at least

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 1>in Dallas that prioritized into your pass rushers, like, I

0:40:57.280 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>bet you if you come to training camp and this

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 1>guy's healthy, he's gonna win everyone.

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 5>On hold on, take about I'm reading this right, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:08.280
<v Speaker 5>read that out to. He was PFF grade third ahead

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 5>of Johnny Newton for.

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 3>Pastor past like.

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>He also had uh in terms of winning percentage on

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:18.759
<v Speaker 1>true past sets, ninety grade and twenty pressures. Right, so

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:21.359
<v Speaker 1>he's tied with Byron Murphy. That's the that was the

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 1>first defensive tackle. Like, dude has juice. Yes, he's just small.

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:27.839
<v Speaker 2>I've been saying he just didn't look the part.

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:29.680
<v Speaker 5>But guess what, he's on the right team. Because one

0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 5>of the things you know about this defense, yeah, as

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 5>you've seen it, Yeah, it traveled from a lot of

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 5>different places. They find a spot for you, whatever you

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 5>can do best, and they slides you in there and

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 5>let you go out there and be special.

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 2>So reminds me of Lionel the Snail Dalton. I played

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:45.840
<v Speaker 2>with Lionel Dalton.

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 3>He was a detail is the real name?

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:52.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, I named him the Snell that he was slow.

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 6>No, he just looked like a snail, Like his face

0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 6>out like he looked like a snail.

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:05.839
<v Speaker 2>He's like what he like like he didn't like sound

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 2>like a cat. You know it.

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 6>It was so funny because it was he wasn't sponge bossing.

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 6>I know they'll call the player to be third that.

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 6>I was like, go get him snail right on the

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 6>Snail Dalton.

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you said he reminded you of yeah, because Snail

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 3>was undersized.

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 2>If if I brought h me here right now. You

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 2>be like that ain't no d line.

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:29.240
<v Speaker 6>But boy, between Kansas City and here, put up stats

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 6>like I could always count on the snail to get

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:31.880
<v Speaker 6>after the quarterback.

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 5>So he was like Alexander for us, he was like

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 5>O just like just like we didn't know where they

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 5>had to put. Joe was just a ball player. Yes,

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:41.239
<v Speaker 5>we had at full back.

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 7>We had yeah, yeah.

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 2>And that's how he got the name one man gag

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I named the neck.

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Because I like do I remember talking to people from

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:52.920
<v Speaker 1>different teams about Zoe, like on special teams, and they

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 1>were like legitimately afraid.

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:56.879
<v Speaker 3>They were like they had like it was something wrong

0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 3>with him, talking about Randy Moss flu or whatever like that.

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:02.360
<v Speaker 1>People like bottom of the roster guys, you have to

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 1>play every game where you're gonna get cut.

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:08.719
<v Speaker 3>Had like Lorenzo Alexander flew. He was just knocking dudes unconscious. Man.

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:11.120
<v Speaker 2>No, And we had this is team core.

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 6>We had Zoe, We had Rock cop right, Mike Sailor, and.

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 2>We had Carrie Campbell that was out.

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 6>Guess what all four of you guys gonna put a

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 6>mustache on your face?

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Dude?

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Like I just remember watching like the first time in

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:29.239
<v Speaker 1>a game, you know, watching those dudes cover a kick.

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:30.760
<v Speaker 3>It was terrify watch.

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 5>Them on the team though, Like if you ever seen that,

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:36.120
<v Speaker 5>like my view of it, bro slashed.

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 6>Your boy used to take people out of the return

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 6>a smitty.

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 2>I used to rick shot if I catch you not looking,

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 2>that's the best. That's the way it was.

0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I remember Mike Sellers on punt return being on the

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 1>line at him literally because he was huge, huge, and

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 1>he would just grab the dude right here on the

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>shoulder pads and let the move. And he would just

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 1>stand at the line of scrimmage and the dude was

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:10.840
<v Speaker 1>like and he could not get off the line of scrimmage.

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, this is just a different bitches

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:13.760
<v Speaker 1>five hundred.

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:16.400
<v Speaker 5>First of all, man, you know, shouting to Mike Settles

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 5>when I heard his surgery.

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 6>Surgery went well, new heart transplants, Thanks so much.

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:23.840
<v Speaker 2>A man is up walking, he's looking strong.

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 6>At the end of the day, it's blessed by blessed

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:27.919
<v Speaker 6>by somebody else.

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's what's up. But I remember getting here and

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 5>hearing the story that he didn't go to He didn't

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.239
<v Speaker 5>go to go to college. He went to junior he went,

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:37.400
<v Speaker 5>he went to Canada. Yes, and I'm like, hold on,

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 5>you didn't say that again. He was like, yeah, I

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 5>played pro.

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:42.319
<v Speaker 2>He's only had one year Junie Cars and I went

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:42.919
<v Speaker 2>to I went.

0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:46.879
<v Speaker 3>And he was the youngest in football, eighteen and a half.

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 6>And when he got off the bus they were like, no,

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 6>he can't.

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Years.

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.360
<v Speaker 1>When I first talk about those metal lockers, I was

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 1>at my metal locker. First they put my stuff in there,

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 1>and Mike walked in and I was like, that's gotta

0:44:58.200 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 1>be like a defensive tack, you know.

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Like that what they looked like.

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 1>And then and that's a big and then someone was like, oh,

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 1>that's Mike Sellers and I was like, I am not

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:06.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna because.

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:08.320
<v Speaker 2>If that's what a freaking fullback.

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 5>Mike was like that that what you call it when

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 5>he can play tight end in full back. He was

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:17.239
<v Speaker 5>in between like and it was crazy because I remember

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:19.799
<v Speaker 5>we had plays where we'll say we got two tight ends.

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:21.359
<v Speaker 5>We got COOLi and Mike, you know what I mean,

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 5>Like my first couple of years here and I'm like,

0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 5>this dude here can come kind of just we put

0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 5>him at d N A couple of plays too.

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Greg Greg William Greg tried him out of d N.

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 6>He was a psychle man man, listen man. When you

0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 6>get a body type like that. I remember when I

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 6>first met Mike. He was in Cleveland and we were

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 6>playing Cleveland in the preseason and Mike was just played here,

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:45.760
<v Speaker 6>like Mike played here two stints, so he was stapping

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:47.120
<v Speaker 6>everybody up before the game.

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:50.399
<v Speaker 2>I was like, d Green, who is that? He was like, oh,

0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 2>they Mike Sell. He a full back. Watch out for

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:57.080
<v Speaker 2>that power. I'm like what you mean? I like, I

0:45:57.239 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 2>tell you what if I got to hit.

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 6>Him, they's gonna be lun loan listen to me. And

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 6>they tossed the sweep to death do us pull? I

0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:10.719
<v Speaker 6>cut him so low. I got a so so made

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 6>because you know he had to lead. I like, well,

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:16.400
<v Speaker 6>you build like a spoon. I know not to go

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:19.359
<v Speaker 6>hound you though, No, Like yeah, I realized, like some

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:22.479
<v Speaker 6>of these guys are truly intimidate. And I remember first

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 6>seeing Mike and I was like, I don't know how

0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 6>long I got any league.

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:27.600
<v Speaker 3>He made me feel that said was.

0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I remember watching a cut up and we were just

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 1>looking at like it was like past fifteen week, which

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 1>is like where the fullback leads up on the linebacker

0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:37.720
<v Speaker 1>then runs to the flat and it was like James

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Harrison off the ball and James Harrison was like.

0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:41.800
<v Speaker 3>A monster dude.

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 1>And Mike hit this dude so hard he like cart

0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:50.279
<v Speaker 1>wielding James Harrison and then what's the flat? Like it

0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:53.320
<v Speaker 1>was like a speed bump and I just played James Harrison.

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I was like, who are you? Like, what are you doing?

0:46:58.160 --> 0:46:59.720
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, they don't build him that way.

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:01.759
<v Speaker 5>And Mike was reason my guys like might make me

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 5>make that business decision A long time ago. When I

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 5>was the corner coming into high school, I was like,

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 5>do I want to tackle guys like that?

0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Because you get kids took it in high school.

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:13.400
<v Speaker 5>You're like, man, running backs look that big, like damn

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:14.200
<v Speaker 5>you know a lineman.

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's get back to I think Mike was the

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 1>udf A right, Yes, he was undrafted free agent.

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 3>So let's get back to that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were giving advice to these guys, we just

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<v Speaker 1>talked to her, just guys, right, yeah, what advice would

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<v Speaker 1>you give them? So hey, U d face, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to sit down there in front of you right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see I.

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<v Speaker 6>Find you a veteran in that locker room and learn

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<v Speaker 6>his habits like not only just learn his habits, understand

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<v Speaker 6>his mindset, and hopefully you can find a veteran that's

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<v Speaker 6>an undrafted free agent. Nobody then rocked your walk, and

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<v Speaker 6>walk your path and let them tell you how important

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<v Speaker 6>every practice, every play, every every time you get, every

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<v Speaker 6>time your numbers called to get in there, take it

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<v Speaker 6>like it's your last.

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<v Speaker 5>I say, find your edge. I think your edge would.

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<v Speaker 5>But mostly just you know, one of the things that

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<v Speaker 5>I learned in college when I, you know, came in

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<v Speaker 5>and being where I was at, I was too naive

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<v Speaker 5>to understand where I was at, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>I was happy for the ride. You know, at worst,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna be truck shot. So whatever happens here, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>ready sure that anyway, I ain't nothing, not gonna lose.

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<v Speaker 5>But the way I got on the field was coach

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<v Speaker 5>said that he say, every day, when you come off

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<v Speaker 5>this field, make sure we're saying something positive about it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like and I so now that I got that

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<v Speaker 5>little knowing that little like bub bub there, And so

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<v Speaker 5>I tried to every time I'm out there, I get

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<v Speaker 5>a chance, I'm winning, I'm winning my one on one.

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<v Speaker 5>I got to know all my assignments, assignment a lineman assiment.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to line up right and know the assignment.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to know my coverages like find the Edge.

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<v Speaker 5>Always always make the guy that's in front of you

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<v Speaker 5>do more than what he did, show up, show him up.

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<v Speaker 5>And then when it's all over, how many reps you're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna get after its how much finwork you gonna get

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<v Speaker 5>in last person before you know, while everybody going home

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<v Speaker 5>on their brakes. I'm from Miami. I hated the film work,

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<v Speaker 5>but guess what I wanted to you can you can

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<v Speaker 5>put up this film and show me how to readcover

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<v Speaker 5>two a little differently, and show me how to read

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<v Speaker 5>this cover six like I ain't never heard of cover six.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I was always trying to get in some kind

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<v Speaker 5>of way, but I didn't know that he taught me that.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, that coach, that particular coach taught me that.

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<v Speaker 5>So I would tell a guy find your edge, put

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<v Speaker 5>in more film work than the next guy, put in

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<v Speaker 5>more work on the field after practice, and before you

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<v Speaker 5>know it, they're gonna be like, hey man, you see

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<v Speaker 5>this guy keep coming here showing up because it's going

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<v Speaker 5>to show up on film. It's gonna show up on

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<v Speaker 5>the field like you're gonna see your play elevate when

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<v Speaker 5>you put in all that work.

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<v Speaker 3>That's school, that's real right there. I appreciate. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you would have told me that when I

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<v Speaker 1>was rookie, But I would say that you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get as many opportunities. There's everybody else. Ye got to

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<v Speaker 1>maximize those opportunities. Treat every play like its super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 5>And I would say, you know what, when you're saying that,

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<v Speaker 5>don't be in your feelings. Don't get in your feelings

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<v Speaker 5>because you're gonna make plays that the guy who probably

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<v Speaker 5>two spots in front of you didn't make. But don't

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<v Speaker 5>be mad that he got the next record and you

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<v Speaker 5>didn't get record. Coach, see they see it, and if

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<v Speaker 5>they don't see it, somebody else would.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they see it. That's exactly right. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Curtis Samuel not Curtis Chris Samuel Christ told me that

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<v Speaker 1>he knew I was going to make the team in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ten, and it was this is what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was a.

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<v Speaker 1>Ball that got We were doing like a live period

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<v Speaker 1>and I was running like a corner on the backside,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, individual back side, and there was a.

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<v Speaker 3>Fumble on the left side of the field and I

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<v Speaker 3>was just so dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>I just sprinted as hard as I could over there

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<v Speaker 1>and I recovered the football.

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<v Speaker 3>I've passed people up and he's like, that's what I know.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna make it. Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was something that I had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with job, with my job. It just was like football

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<v Speaker 1>is important to this guy. You're going to go the

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<v Speaker 1>extra mile and like any opportunity you have to show

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<v Speaker 1>that with the film, getting with the veteran all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So hey, good luck, guys. We appreciate you, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's going to do it for Toda's show. Good yeah,

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