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Speaker 1: On today's episode The Command Center Podcast, we talked Jayden's

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Speaker 2: He's got to take it from somebody who say you

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Speaker 2: have to pay up a limit?

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Speaker 3: Was he not gonna be? Man?

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Speaker 1: I can'tn't wait here? What these guys got to say?

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Speaker 1: We got undrafted free agents. We go through all of

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Speaker 1: them and we give a little advice. What's it gonna

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Speaker 1: take for those guys to make the team. And we

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Speaker 1: got a little story time talking about Big Mike Sellers.

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Speaker 1: Woooo and it all starts right right now. Welcome into

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Speaker 1: the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan paulse In here with

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Speaker 1: Fretz Food and Santana Moss and guys. We got a

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Speaker 1: We're really excited about it. And we said, oh, you

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Speaker 1: can only get him in live events, and people were

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Speaker 1: like leaving addresses in the comments section.

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Speaker 3: Don't do that.

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Speaker 1: We don't want you guys get in trouble, right Like,

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Speaker 1: we want to keep you guys saving home.

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Speaker 3: So what we're gonna do if you.

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Speaker 1: Are not a local person, you're not in the in Virginia,

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Speaker 1: Maryland EMV right non Virginia, Maryland.

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Speaker 3: We have an email address.

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Speaker 1: Now, what's what's the name of god that he got

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Speaker 1: signed at gmail dot com? All right, so leave an

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Speaker 1: your shirt size, shipping address, and name. Okay, will randomly

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Speaker 1: select twenty winners, uh for a free shirt, and five

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Speaker 1: of those will get a signed shirt by all three

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Speaker 1: of us. Is that right, Jason?

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Speaker 3: Do I say there correctly?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: So, and also Jason has to go through the emails,

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Speaker 1: So no double dipping. One only request. If you put

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Speaker 1: Let's make it easy for Jason.

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Speaker 3: But if they want one for thee and they son

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Speaker 3: they self and they I said they self.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they if they won't one for them and they son,

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Speaker 2: now we can't turn the keys that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to bring in the arbitrator here. Jason,

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Speaker 3: what do we got there?

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Speaker 2: Case by case? Babe?

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Speaker 4: Sell it to me that it's real. It's real, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean for me and my seven it's okays are

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Speaker 4: pretty trustworthy. I'm not worried about like guys are going

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Speaker 4: to pull fast ones on us. But like, if you

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Speaker 4: have an exorbitant request like that, like I, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we're trying to make sure we gets their

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Speaker 1: shirts merch out there. We're really excited about it. But

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Speaker 1: also that hawk outside at gmail dot com. You can

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Speaker 1: leave show ideas, leave comments, leave things you want us

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Speaker 1: to talk about. Maybe ideas for like questions goes in

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Speaker 1: there because right now, guys, we're in silly season, silly

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Speaker 1: season meeting. There's nothing to talk about with the team,

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Speaker 1: right we got mini camp OTA's coming up. Those tend

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Speaker 1: to be close practices. So if there's something you want

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Speaker 4: We have a couple of people in the comments that

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Speaker 4: keep saying, Jason, make me an intern.

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Speaker 2: I don't have this power.

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Speaker 3: Definitely he's lying he can do that. Yeah, keep leaving comments.

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Speaker 4: But show me your production skills if there's some topics

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Speaker 4: dropping in there, and maybe.

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Speaker 5: Uh actually use some of their topics and then shouting

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Speaker 5: them out saying that you know this particular person.

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Speaker 6: Topic brought to you by Milton Johnson from PAS.

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Speaker 3: Why Milton Johnson because Milton sound like man he just

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Speaker 3: on the top of the head Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: That is, you know Pennsylvania. That's a different culture.

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Speaker 6: Like everybody just think about Philadelphia, you think about the

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Speaker 6: big city, but that's a big old state.

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Speaker 5: Milton, all the names come on, touch up Johnson, Jebbadiah.

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Speaker 3: If your name is Milton Johnson, leave a comment at Mississippi.

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Speaker 5: It ain't no damn PA.

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Speaker 2: No p A is a Quaker state.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's so much.

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Speaker 6: Definitely, it's a lot of Jebbadiah's there now. They making

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Speaker 3: Of you in PA. Believe that that's that's a great point. Right.

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Speaker 3: So our producer doesn't want us to talk about this,

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Speaker 3: please because you guys just have such good takes on this.

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Speaker 3: Who's the guy the basketball player that said he can put.

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Speaker 1: On skin Rivers rivers Son okay, ost Rivers said he

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Speaker 1: could find thirty by football players they could play Football Today.

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Speaker 3: Show in the NFL. And then I'm not sure he said, you.

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Speaker 6: Say we can't five thirty football players, they could go

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Speaker 3: I might be in the right out of here, but

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Speaker 3: I kind of agree with him.

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Speaker 2: Yo, how could you agree.

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Speaker 5: With I would say this? It's not that many. Now,

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Speaker 5: it's a few guys in the NFL that can go

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Speaker 5: lot of those guys are you know, you show this

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Speaker 5: guy on TV looks five ten and he's sixty three. Yes,

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Speaker 5: still so so that part right there would take us out.

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Speaker 5: But I will say this just because we played football

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Speaker 5: first of all, Austin Rivers looking at it from I

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Speaker 5: don't know what Lindsey he's looking out of, but bro,

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Speaker 5: I see you guys can't get bumped in a basketball game.

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Speaker 5: You're talking about coming out here, putting on pass and

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Speaker 5: getting tackled. So that's the hard part for me to believe.

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Speaker 2: It's the physicality.

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Speaker 1: But I think you've seen there's a precedent set like

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Speaker 1: we've seen basketball players we have play in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: But it's a friend the NBA. Chris Carter could have

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Speaker 6: The n B, A t O could have played in

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Speaker 2: All those listen to me.

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Speaker 1: T O is a streat hooper man, But you got

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Speaker 1: it's it's a different skill set, man.

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Speaker 6: But we're stronged like hic on things. Where's our advantage

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Speaker 6: in this. First of all, we're gonna be faster than

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Speaker 6: everybody on the court. That's gonna be stronger than everybody

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Speaker 1: The speed thing, I think is really interesting because I

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Speaker 1: thinking about them playing like receiver or something.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: Like Westbrook has the mentality, See they go to think

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Speaker 6: the mentality to be as rough as we are chaotic.

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Speaker 6: We are organized chaos. They are chaos organized. So at

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Speaker 6: the end of the day, it's gonna take the edgy ones.

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Speaker 6: Can Dennis Rotteney, Charles Oakley, Yes, yes, yes, yes they can.

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Speaker 6: But the other ones, Clayton Thompson, everybody my things.

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Speaker 2: You can.

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Speaker 5: You can put Rushbrook as one of those guys, and

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Speaker 5: even d Wade. But when you watch a guy have

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Speaker 5: are as a football player, it's totally different, and that's

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Speaker 5: when you separate yourself. But those guys are not going

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Speaker 5: to be able to come out there and do some

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Speaker 5: things we can do. I mean, we can go on

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Speaker 5: to basketball court and shoot. Yeah, probably can't go out

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Speaker 5: there and compete at that level with those guys because,

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Speaker 5: like I said before, the hight difference, But I just

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Speaker 5: being able to take those hits.

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Speaker 2: We saw a couple of guys that you.

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Speaker 5: Know, transit had you know, had had had a good

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Speaker 5: run at it, and to me, that was our red breeze.

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Speaker 2: So I get what he's saying.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's probably not that many football players that can

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Speaker 5: play basketball. But don't sit here thirty guys that game.

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Speaker 2: Once youball, you can't play football.

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Speaker 1: Well you play offensive line right six eighties. There's a

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Speaker 1: couple like, who's that? No, a fan who played for Houston.

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Speaker 1: Less you your basketball player in college?

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Speaker 3: Obviously different.

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Speaker 1: I played with Darren Fels, basketball player in college. But

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Speaker 1: it took Darren probably three years of like football specific

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Speaker 1: two and a half years of football specific training. You

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Speaker 1: got to even get a shot, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So it's not like you could go from basketball to

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's kind of the point you're making too.

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Speaker 1: It's like, if you wanted to take some guys from

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Speaker 1: like practice shooting and all that stuff. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I do think the athletically just because like the Jimmy

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Speaker 1: there's something there for sure. So I had to talk

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Speaker 6: It had inch my keyaster because because I hear basketball

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Speaker 6: players saying it all the time, and my one thing

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Speaker 6: I say to them is the physicality alone.

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Speaker 1: You need, like you need to be a tough basketball player.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's an interesting kind of thought experiment too.

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Speaker 5: It's like, but they can't run all that stuff on.

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Speaker 5: They can't go out there and be in that sun.

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Speaker 5: They indoor players, They're not going to want to be

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Speaker 3: About Draymond Green, what we're talking about.

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Speaker 6: We watched Draymond when Nick Stated was coaching Michigan State.

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Speaker 6: Draymond came out there tighty in the conorback asked him,

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Speaker 6: do you want some peanut butter with the jail and.

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Speaker 2: Jammed him turned down.

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Speaker 6: So what I'm saying, if anybody tough enough to play

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Speaker 6: is Draymond is Draymond. Because he is very football mentality

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Speaker 3: It'd be interesting to ask him what that experience was.

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Speaker 2: Like, that's my guy.

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Speaker 5: I watched the film. Yes, I call a movie.

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Speaker 6: Number eighty eight. That's what he want out there. Don't

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Speaker 6: ever put on my curving number again.

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Speaker 1: It's a good number two. Just disrespected, all right, So

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Speaker 1: let's get to some commander and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Now they're through that.

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Speaker 1: So kind of a story that you know, we were

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Speaker 1: talking about before the production meeting. I think it's interesting,

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Speaker 1: you know, like, what is it? What did what did

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Speaker 1: Ronnie say? It is interesting but not relevant or whatever

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Speaker 1: that he used to say, that's life. You have to

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Speaker 1: decide whether this is one of those things. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: So Jane Daniels wears number five in college or what

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Speaker 1: number five?

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Speaker 3: LSU the field? Who wears number five for this team?

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Speaker 2: Tresway pro Bola.

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Speaker 1: Do you say, Jaye Daniels asks for number five or

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Speaker 1: does he change his number? And if he does ask

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Speaker 1: for number five, how much would it take for Trust

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Speaker 1: to give him number five.

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Speaker 5: I would say this and.

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Speaker 1: Again we have no Just to be clear, we have

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Speaker 1: no insight on this. Not this might not even be

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Speaker 6: We know how we were talking about, We know how

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Speaker 6: the numbers are traded in the locker room, we know

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Speaker 2: He didn't know nobody. Ye herd names and that's it.

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Speaker 5: So he gonna hear that name trus Way has that

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Speaker 3: He's you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: So he probably gonna go up to him and shoot

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Speaker 5: And Jay might kind of get you know. But I

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Speaker 5: I will think of a price, being that he's a

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Speaker 2: Oh I would look, I would just say a bees,

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Speaker 5: I would just say, look from anywhere from two hundred

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Speaker 6: Gonna be the you know, face the franchise.

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Speaker 5: Of the franchise, give me that two hundred for that

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Speaker 1: Of all, what number would you say, because like if

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think Trust would ask for two hundred

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Speaker 5: I don't think so. It depends on who you are,

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Speaker 5: I don't think he will either. I'm saying, if you

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Speaker 5: I'm charging them more because because you asked me and

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Speaker 3: Know who I was.

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm gonna I'm gonna come in if I'm

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Speaker 6: Jay to be like Trust, I know who you is,

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Speaker 6: I do our twenty thousand in logo with like that

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Speaker 6: ain't enough.

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Speaker 2: You do what two hundred thousand?

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Speaker 3: I'm looking like, Uh, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Because the one thing he has to do is, and

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Speaker 6: this won't take a lot of money, is if he

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Speaker 6: trades none. But the first thing that has to happen

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Speaker 6: So he had to buy the Transwait Jersey.

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Speaker 1: The number for Kirk it was something like five hundred

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Speaker 1: and five or six hundred thousand dollars because Cow is because.

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Speaker 6: Cow pits Jersey sales down there, but tresh Jersey is not.

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Speaker 2: You don't see a lot of people in trust Wait Jerseys.

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Speaker 5: So a lot of people not my commended stuff too.

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Speaker 6: But what I'm saying is, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: I started off at.

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Speaker 6: Twenty thousand, I would go fifty to seventy five thousand.

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Speaker 3: That's the starting point. That's it.

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Speaker 6: And I think Trust would not have a Probably it

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Speaker 6: started punning worse.

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Speaker 5: Like, never know, bro, that a superstitious superstitious you change

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Speaker 2: On what if? What if he turns to number nine

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Speaker 2: and just starts shinking him like you said, get it

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Speaker 6: What happened if the first two kick man out of Byron?

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Speaker 2: I said, at worse, I want want to see j

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Speaker 2: J names in fifteen?

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Speaker 3: Better?

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Speaker 5: What fifteen until time?

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Speaker 2: I cringe when I see fifty. I mean because if he.

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Speaker 5: Don't get fired, was he gonna get I get fifteen?

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Speaker 6: I just when I see fifteen, I think about Tim

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Speaker 6: Tebow's It left like a taste in my mouth.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Jay needs a single digit after meeting him, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because he's not He's not a small guy, he's tall,

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Speaker 1: but like he like that single digit.

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Speaker 2: Just look, so get him give him one. Then now

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Speaker 2: you're talking about dots.

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Speaker 5: I'm saying I forgot about gonna want.

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Speaker 2: I gonna want way more, Mike. I think that negotiations

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like this is when the

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Speaker 6: he turned that way to be.

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Speaker 2: Like, what's gonna take? What's gonna take?

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Speaker 3: How do you start?

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Speaker 1: So, if I'm trusting you're you're Jaden, what's the like,

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Speaker 1: what's the intro? I'm sitting here with the intro. I'll

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Speaker 1: give you mine with okay.

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Speaker 2: Put. I came to that thing. I saw that eighty nine.

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Speaker 5: I was like, damn, they gave me eighty nine?

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Speaker 2: Why that?

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Speaker 5: So I'm like, who got eighty three? Ain't stressed? I'm like, man,

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Speaker 2: John said, hey, James and James good dude. Right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: James came to me. Before I even got.

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Speaker 5: Out of my mind, I already know you wanted eighty three, hungh.

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Speaker 5: I said, yeah, Bro, I mean I'm willing to pay.

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Speaker 5: He say, let me pray on it.

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Speaker 2: Jesus, Hey, what Jesus to you?

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Speaker 5: Was almost over. James came to me and was like, hey, man,

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Speaker 5: Jesus told me that I prayed on him, bro, and

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Speaker 5: I'm willing to give it to you. And I said, guess what.

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Speaker 5: I prayed on it too, And I came up. I

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Speaker 2: Together.

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Speaker 5: That's eighty nine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm good.

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Speaker 5: He said, damn, bro, that's good, and it made it

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Speaker 5: was like he was fend number. No he didn't, he did.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna give him something, James, I.

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Speaker 2: Just got paid. What would you have given him?

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Speaker 5: Probably south to seventy five to fifty, but I probably

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Speaker 5: gave him around like fifty thousand for Yeah, but.

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Speaker 2: That's me out of respect. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I knew

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Speaker 2: James Strass. I knew of him growing up.

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Speaker 5: James Thrass was a guy that I always had a

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Speaker 5: when we was playing together, Like he would come in

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Speaker 5: Like I came out of game one time, Coach, give

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Speaker 5: met me down. This is my first year. I'm tired, Bro,

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Speaker 5: I'm exhausted. I'm walking on the side and I was

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Speaker 5: third down. I had no clue.

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Speaker 2: Coach.

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Speaker 5: He just walking on down and say this play for you.

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Speaker 5: He better he better catch it. Like I go, like

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Speaker 5: out there, I look at James stra I said, oh, James,

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Speaker 5: that caught a like a litt I forgot the little route,

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Speaker 5: a little flat route. He came in motion.

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Speaker 2: I remember house called I remember you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So I'm like, and guess what. That opened up the

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Speaker 5: He ran that route for us on third down and

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Speaker 5: he couldn't. I mean, they would not stop him. So

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Speaker 5: I kind of look at it like, damn, he took

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Speaker 5: was willing to give that up because he's a guy

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Speaker 5: that deserved that.

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Speaker 2: But when when Jade sits down, ask me.

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Speaker 3: I trusting, got my stuff up and put my cleats on.

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Speaker 2: Do you come over you say, I'm gonna sit down,

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Speaker 2: look at you once or twice?

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Speaker 3: What do you want?

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Speaker 5: I want that. He ain't gonna say it.

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Speaker 6: I want want the FIZZI them feel you understand me?

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Speaker 2: What it's gonna take.

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Speaker 6: Just when negotiation starts, t's gonna be like, you know what,

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Speaker 6: you know, I made the Pro Bowl in the Jersey.

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Speaker 5: This just on the number.

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Speaker 1: Wonder if Trust would even ask you mean trust good dude, man,

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Speaker 5: You know how numbers I don't trust ask. I think trust.

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Speaker 5: Trust has the his sense of human probably like mine,

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Speaker 5: like yours. On steroids.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's so dress.

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Speaker 5: Trash would come to him and Trust would say, look,

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Speaker 5: man tell me something.

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Speaker 2: They tell me what you want to Yeah, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: He would tell him to throw the number out there,

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Speaker 5: and if he likes it or not, he'll probably give

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Speaker 5: it to us.

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Speaker 2: That's me expecually.

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Speaker 6: You know, you're right, one hundred thousand ain't much when

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Speaker 6: you just got forty me.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I can tell you know

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Speaker 2: five forty is it's so you're somewhere in there. Well

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Speaker 2: we look makes a cap now, cap now. But I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying it's a good, a good lord, don't be garrants.

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Speaker 3: It's over. It's over twenty million dollars.

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Speaker 6: So he's gonna be fine. I just think it's one

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Speaker 6: of the things because most people don't know. My first

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Speaker 6: week here, I wore twenty three, twenty three the Michael

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Speaker 6: Jordan that was.

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Speaker 3: My That sounds gross, yeah it does, it does.

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Speaker 6: But guess what hell rogers no, no, d twenty three

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Speaker 2: So the thing about it was the was still here

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Speaker 2: at the time.

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Speaker 5: Them was twenty one.

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Speaker 6: So when did he leave like a week later, right

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Speaker 6: like we did rookie Minicamp. At the rooky Minicamp, all

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Speaker 6: the whole team got together. Mart Schemenheimen was our coach.

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Speaker 6: Deon didn't want to play for Marty, so de Young

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Speaker 6: was always telling me, I'm finna retire you, dude. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I'm going to give you my locker. I'm fin to

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Speaker 2: I'm fini j I was like, oh, I'm fin the

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Speaker 2: J Walker. You finish J Walker.

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Speaker 6: So I knew what I was finding it to one consist, No,

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Speaker 6: my wonting one period.

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Speaker 3: Jason's got the number.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, these are none of this is official. This is

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Speaker 4: all like, but it's it's expected to be a four years,

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Speaker 4: thirty seven point seven million for Jason, where in there

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Speaker 4: Caleb will get thirty nine point four thirty six point.

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Speaker 5: Six to the nearest hunt.

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Speaker 2: Because I remember four years twenty two point eight.

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Speaker 3: When Cam got drafted. There was captured twenty two.

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Speaker 5: But you know in these.

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Speaker 2: Years, Sam Bradford, Sam came out. He was the last

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Speaker 2: sixty five. He got like sixty five million, get the

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Speaker 2: first pick.

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Speaker 5: Sam Bradford, he was the reason why they kept it

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Speaker 5: because they were like.

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Speaker 2: This Sam Bradford, Kirk cousin, the same guy. Listen to me, same,

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Speaker 2: It's been way better than six.

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Speaker 4: Years seventy eight million.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god for Sam Bradford's worse.

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Speaker 5: And they said I'm sick of it.

445
00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,399
Speaker 2: I'm I'm sick of it. Next year we cap it.

446
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Speaker 6: They didn't captin it. And listen, man, imagine what that

447
00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,440
Speaker 6: would be today. If kayleb wings with number one, he

448
00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,719
Speaker 6: would have got a hundred million.

449
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Speaker 3: I think he was a top five paid quarterback that

450
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Speaker 3: year or something like.

451
00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was top five. I hadn't played a day,

452
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Speaker 2: played it down. That's that's what I'm saying.

453
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Speaker 6: So if i'm transway, give me a hundred one hundred,

454
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Speaker 6: give me a hundred thousand. I can put it in

455
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Speaker 6: my child, you know, trust.

456
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Speaker 3: Fun prepay for my kids.

457
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Speaker 2: Yeah whatever.

458
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Speaker 5: Tress is a smart man, so I expect him to

459
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Speaker 5: have less sense of humor about it. Yeah, like I say,

460
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Speaker 5: he gonna tell him probably the thrower that throw him

461
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Speaker 5: a number. And to me as a as a young

462
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Speaker 5: buck coming in there out of respect, you got to

463
00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,639
Speaker 5: say from that range, I said, at least six a hundred.

464
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,199
Speaker 5: But if he's coming there and don't know me two

465
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Speaker 5: hundred because you won't did two hundred.

466
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Speaker 6: Tres had to put on number nineteen. They're gonna repercussion

467
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:13,399
Speaker 6: much numbers is not.

468
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Speaker 2: It's like that's what I was saying. It's no numbers

469
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,400
Speaker 2: out there that's gonna fit trust. Who is he always been?

470
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Speaker 2: He was five and up Arizona State?

471
00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:24,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think he was always five here though,

472
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,040
Speaker 5: because they wasn't winning. Look up Trusts numbers when he

473
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Speaker 5: played when when we all played together with Tress, I don't.

474
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Speaker 3: Think he was five five.

475
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Speaker 5: I don't because know McNab had five one year, but

476
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Speaker 5: test one here Trust.

477
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Speaker 2: Was after that.

478
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,680
Speaker 3: It was two years after that.

479
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Speaker 5: War, five after McNab. Do I think one of the

480
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Speaker 5: quarterbacks after McNab had five?

481
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,240
Speaker 3: Did Patrick White were five?

482
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Speaker 2: Did he Patrick?

483
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Speaker 6: I'm talking about the West Via five nine something like

484
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Speaker 6: that trade Vandostin.

485
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, most definitely gonna be the gift they kept on.

486
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Speaker 3: So he's probably better today in today's game.

487
00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would be. He was like your boy man

488
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 2: who played and played at Florida.

489
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,560
Speaker 5: Johnoe is Green, you know from Virginia up here? What

490
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 5: the kid name is who played played Percy Harvey Percony

491
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 5: Harvey like they was like person Harvey's a different bill,

492
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 5: different gear, but they was like electric field. They were

493
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 5: like they was like Bush playering receiver.

494
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Speaker 4: What we got Jason so Jane and Daniels is always

495
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 4: worn number five?

496
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,119
Speaker 5: Wow, what about Chase?

497
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:23,240
Speaker 4: Trust?

498
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Speaker 5: I mean, Trust can Chase one.

499
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Speaker 3: No problem.

500
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 4: He's always worn number five here. But okay, at uh

501
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 4: it says Chicago he was with Chicago was number one,

502
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 4: which he can't be because John is here. But when

503
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 4: he was at Oklahoma he was number thirty.

504
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 2: Oh hey, he should just put on cooler number and

505
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 2: just be for the sales.

506
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Speaker 6: I know, trust, he's an idiot, So if he changed numbers,

507
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Speaker 6: it's not gonna be from five to six.

508
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 2: He's gonna go from five.

509
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 5: Like I kind of don't want to see Trust have

510
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 5: to change because I feel like it's just something you

511
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 5: have to say. He's a you know, but it's hard

512
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 5: to see. Jayde did not come in and like.

513
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Speaker 1: I do also think it's good when a young guy

514
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: comes in and can like re establish their identity.

515
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying this that was college. This is here.

516
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 5: But or like I say, they might say, hey, Jaden,

517
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Speaker 5: you I got and five is gonna be waiting on

518
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 5: you when he leaves.

519
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 3: That's true, right right now.

520
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 5: We gotta let him ride this thing up. Like I said,

521
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,199
Speaker 5: he's a pro bowler, man, he's a guy that's to

522
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 5: be one of the better, the bettert the best punter

523
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 5: in the league.

524
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Speaker 2: So you gotta gotta live with it.

525
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 6: I would come here is the number two picks. Say

526
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Speaker 6: it's punt in the league.

527
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Speaker 3: You were the number two picks. That would be a

528
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Speaker 3: nightmare for everybody.

529
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, at the same but I'm just saying, if I'm

530
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Speaker 6: the quarterback, man.

531
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Speaker 3: It's true quarterback. That's a little bit like that.

532
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Speaker 2: This I'm the governess.

533
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Speaker 5: It's more than shoulders.

534
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Speaker 2: I would love to see him in number nine. I

535
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 2: think nine to look good on him.

536
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

537
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: He was also thirty six.

538
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 3: Trust trust Yeah, he was just.

539
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Speaker 2: Here's a bunch of numbers. He's a pun They just

540
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 2: gave him a number in high school.

541
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Speaker 3: He was thirty.

542
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 4: It was number thirty. You were one year at Oklah.

543
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 1: We should ask him, we should get to trust on

544
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: here and ask him if he'd switch numbers. All right,

545
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 1: So that's going to do it for the number talk basketball,

546
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 1: number talk football. If you have a thought on that,

547
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: what number would you take to change your number? Please

548
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: send an email to that hawk outside at gmail dot com.

549
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: How much would it take?

550
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 3: How much would it take? Leave a comment?

551
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So now we're talking undrafted free agents.

552
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 1: We've done a lot of draft talk, and so for

553
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Speaker 1: this segment, if you want a more detailed kind of

554
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: rendition of each player, we did that on Ticket of

555
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: the Draft, which is on Apple and Spotify, right Jason,

556
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: So you can listen to that there and then I'll

557
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: come out on Friday. But in the meantime, let's talk

558
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Speaker 1: about just high level free agents. You guys played for

559
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: a long time, saw a lot of undrafted free agent rookies.

560
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 3: What was your perception.

561
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: Of those guys coming in because obviously the drafted guys

562
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: were kind of held in a little different standard, you know,

563
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: like they came in they had like special not special treatment,

564
00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: but they were treated a little.

565
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Speaker 3: Differently than the US.

566
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what was your as guys that were established a locker?

567
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: What was your view of that.

568
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 3: Group of guys?

569
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 5: Well, when I first got into the league, I cared

570
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 5: less about who was who I still I mean, throughout

571
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 5: my years, I cared less, but I really even knew

572
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,959
Speaker 5: who was undrafted, who was drafted. I feel like we

573
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,239
Speaker 5: was all there. So at the end of the day,

574
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 5: I'm like, we're all on the team. But the crazy

575
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 5: part about it, my first four years in New York,

576
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 5: I hung out with the undrafted guys more than the

577
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 5: guys on the team, like more than the And it's

578
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 5: crazy because one of the guys are he's now here.

579
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 5: In Howard coaching Tory Woodbury, I mentioned his name was

580
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 5: a quarterback. He was the Mike Vick of Black College,

581
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 5: so he was. He went to Winston Stalem University. I

582
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 5: remember seeing him in the draft when they was talking

583
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 5: about picking him up, you know, when other teams was

584
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 5: looking at him. And then he ended up coming to

585
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 5: the Jets as an undrafted guy, but they talked highly

586
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 5: about who he was, and so when I got there,

587
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 5: he basically like me and him just like he's a quarterback,

588
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 5: I'm a receiver, and we hung out. He made the

589
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 5: team as a receiver slash special teams guy, you know.

590
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 5: But when you look back at it now, all these years,

591
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 5: another guy came in, he was undrafted, and I'm like,

592
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 5: we was cool. So I care less about those guys

593
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 5: being undrafted or not. And I never really especially when

594
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 5: I got my name, you know, started playing goodball. I

595
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 5: never looked down those guys because there was a lot

596
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 5: of guys that will come in that you say, how

597
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 5: did that guy not get drafted? You understand. So just

598
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 5: because they're undrafted refreging, don't mean that they not draft

599
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 5: worthy or they wasn't a guy that should have been drafted.

600
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 5: Things happen.

601
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Speaker 2: You know, Hey, only two hundred plus of us can

602
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: get drafted. They don't mean it ain't a back though

603
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 2: into the league.

604
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Speaker 6: Antonio Pierce came in our rookie year undrafted free agent,

605
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 6: end up winning the Super Bowl. Now he's the head

606
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 6: coach of the Raiders. I love guys that weather the

607
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 6: storm because it's not easy for any of us as

608
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 6: a rookie. But if you are undrafted free agent, it's

609
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 6: almost no hope.

610
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 5: Almost.

611
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 2: But when I see them dig, they weigh out.

612
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 6: It's just respect. I was always treated everybody saying people

613
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 6: already know they had up. You could come knock on

614
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 6: my do it Ino town. I'm opening the door. I

615
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 6: don't care who he is.

616
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 2: We know how they was.

617
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 6: Because people don't understand how it feels to be in

618
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 6: the middle locker like timporary locker.

619
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Speaker 1: Talk about that for a second. It's like downstairs. Uh,

620
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: at least says they used to do it right. So

621
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: the guys on the team had the outside locker, which

622
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Speaker 1: is like the one you see on TV where it's

623
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Speaker 1: like got the nice you can sit in it, you

624
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: can put your stuff in there, and then in the

625
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: middle for the UDFA guys. And so like when I

626
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: came in, I was UDFA guy. Trent had his own locker.

627
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: He was over there right like Perry Riley. All the

628
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: guys that got drafted had their own locker, and then

629
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Speaker 1: your boy was in a metal locker in the middle,

630
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, this is not good. This is

631
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: not a real locker. So how do I get from

632
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: this locker to that locker? And then when I was

633
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: in Chicago, what they used to do is they used

634
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Speaker 1: to put the ud F as in a different.

635
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Speaker 2: Locker room, same thing.

636
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: And when I j so you're like, so it's.

637
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 1: Like, how do I actually get into the real locker room?

638
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: So it is a little bit tough, but yeah, like

639
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, did you you look at those lockers

640
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: and be like damn.

641
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,479
Speaker 6: No, I didn't because I knew as quick as they

642
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 6: could be cut drafted guys and guys that been here

643
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 6: for six years when that reaper entered the locker room

644
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 6: and I holler out dead man walking, like it doesn't

645
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 6: matter if you're in the middle of locker or not.

646
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 6: Like I said, I always endeared to those guys. I

647
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 6: always made friends with those guys. So at the end

648
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 6: of the day, it didn't matter how you got here,

649
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 6: as long as you was here. And I also knew

650
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 6: for most coaches I played with, they didn't care either,

651
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 6: Like if you're better than the guy we drafted, we're

652
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 6: gonna keep you.

653
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: We're not keeping him.

654
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Speaker 6: So I had a lot of respect for those guys

655
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 6: and Antonio Pierce's of the world, the London Fletchers of

656
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 6: the world. So it don't matter how you started in

657
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 6: this game, itn't matter how you finished, man.

658
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 5: You know, honestly, like I looked at those lockers, that's

659
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 5: just it's training. Come.

660
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: You know, it's a bunch of bodies in here.

661
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 5: I didn't, you know, I really never really paid attention

662
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 5: to who was in them and who wasn't. I thought

663
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 5: it was so many young guys came in here at

664
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 5: the end of the day, whether they draft draft picks

665
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 5: or not, they got to go somewhere because we got

666
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 5: a whole team of people that's still here. So I

667
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 5: never really looked individually of who was in that locker

668
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 5: until they started coming up missing, you know, once you

669
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 5: started seeing them open them anything, I'm like, well, damn,

670
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 5: he wasn't a draft pick or he didn't have any

671
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 5: you know, he didn't carry any weight for him to

672
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 5: make the team. And so that's when you start paying

673
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 5: attention more. But man, I could just imagine, bro, like

674
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 5: we need to be asking you how it feel to because.

675
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 6: How doesn't feel the pressure every day knowing I could

676
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 6: wake up and this could be my LaDue line.

677
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 3: It was tough, man, it was.

678
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,479
Speaker 1: It was really tough because like those like for you

679
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: guys didn't matter maybe, but like for me, every day

680
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: it was like every day I went to that metal locker,

681
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, you know, like you could be

682
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: out of here tomorrow. And so you're always kind of

683
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: thinking about like draft picks, and you know, obviously the

684
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: first probably three first three rounds or guys that are

685
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: going to make the team because they made an investment.

686
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: But like my year, they had drafted a guy in

687
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: the fifth round that they were really high on, and

688
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: like you're saying Fred, like he wasn't working out the

689
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: way they wanted. I was having a good camp and

690
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: it switched and I ended up making the team over him,

691
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: and they ended up cutting him. But like, you get

692
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: penalized as a team for cutting draft picks, so there

693
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: are there are incentives to keep the likes. So for example,

694
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: they got in trouble for this, but they trade. They

695
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: swapped draft picks with the Saint Louis Rams at the time,

696
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: so they could cut their pick and then we could

697
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: cut the Saint Louis could cut our pick and with

698
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: no penalty. But you get because the contract of a

699
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: draft pick is guaranteed. Uh, three fourths of the contracts guaranteed.

700
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: So for me, they cut me and it's like thanks,

701
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: thanks for coming by, like we appreciate it.

702
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: So it was tough.

703
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: And again like understanding that they had made an investment

704
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: in those players, they'd picked those players with valuable assets,

705
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: and I was just kind of a guy.

706
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 3: Was tough.

707
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 6: How did you go out your way not to like

708
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 6: cause we always practice all us practice. No, once you're

709
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 6: on a team, you used to get practiced with it.

710
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 6: I can't make a mistake mentality, but damn.

711
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: It was so the best way I could explain it

712
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: because I had to do like rookie mentoring when I

713
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: was in Atlanta, Like I would talk to the rookies

714
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: when they'd come in, And the best way I could

715
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: explain it, it's like you're a dog on a leash. Right,

716
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: So if your first round draft pick, Man, you're out

717
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: in the yard. Man, there's no fence, go out, do

718
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: what you gotta do. You could mess up, yeah, chew

719
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: up the porch, whatever you want to do as a

720
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: as a U d f A, you are tied to

721
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: that stake in the yard if you mess up, if

722
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: you get too far, like get out of here, right,

723
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: So i'd be here with udfa's you thought, oh I

724
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: made it, I made the team, and then it's like, bro,

725
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: like you cannot do what he's doing because they're gonna

726
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna be patient with him. They're not gonna be

727
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: patient with you. Because I hate to break it to you,

728
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: there are probably seven hundred to you floating around the NFL.

729
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

730
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: And so like that's why I have a lot of respect,

731
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, Fletch, you mentioned Pierce, you know, and played

732
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: with a bunch of guys that made the teams udf

733
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: as because like you have such a tight like such

734
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: a such a it's like your thread the needle, small

735
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: window right, and you gotta you gotta cant. And so

736
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: for me, it was like the guy they drafted didn't

737
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: do what he was supposed to do, an older guy

738
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 1: got hurt, and then they h two older guys got hurt,

739
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: and so then there was like, oh, shoot, like here

740
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: it is. That's a lot of luck, you know.

741
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 5: I remember being asked and it's crazy that we're talking

742
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 5: about this because it's just you know, and I'm always

743
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 5: to want the brain freezers, you know. But you talked

744
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 5: so long it gave me time to think about it.

745
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 5: I remember being okay, that was a little like that

746
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 5: by the way you talk, you know, we actually questioned,

747
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 5: we askually the question. I wanted to hear your take

748
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 5: on the note. But I remember one of the guys

749
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 5: like after year ten or something like that. For me,

750
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 5: he's no longer in the league. We're talking. He's like, man,

751
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 5: I always wonder like why you were so cool with us,

752
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 5: Like Bro like, why would you? And he was hanging

753
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 5: out with me for my birthdays. He's like, Tenne, man,

754
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 5: you're still taking care of me. Bro, all these years,

755
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 5: I tell I tell my folks, man, I came in

756
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 5: I want even a drift pick. Tenn of had me staying.

757
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 5: I stayed at Tennel House for four years, like and

758
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 5: I thought about it. I said, Bro, do you know

759
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 5: not not know how I came into college? I was

760
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 5: you in college walk on, And I tell you that

761
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 5: the way I felt every day came I couldn't eat

762
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 5: with these guys. I couldn't. It was like they were

763
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 5: showing you that you here. So I'm like, when I

764
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 5: got to the league and saw you got it wasn't

765
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 5: like you was uh walk on or undrafted free agent.

766
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 5: I looked at you as a guy like I wanted.

767
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 5: I wanted to make sure you knew that I accepted

768
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 5: you if no one else did. So you know what

769
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 5: I mean. So that's one of the reasons that I've

770
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 5: always kind of took care of those people and made

771
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 5: sure that they knew, like, hey, bro, let's go out

772
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 5: here and work. And when if I can give you

773
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 5: that energy to say that's going out here and work

774
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 5: and maybe you know better. Your chances are going out

775
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 5: to compete and get looked at, and hey, I did

776
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 5: my part.

777
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: Do you remember Johnny U. Banks?

778
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: Like you?

779
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 6: Banks was undrafted, familiar, all right, and I'll never forget.

780
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 6: We were playing against the Chicago Bear Blue forheaded hell

781
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 6: of a game.

782
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: The two picks everything. I end up by the third

783
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: quarter full body cramp.

784
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 6: I literally go into the locker room and I'm watching

785
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 6: the game as I sit on the table with the Bees.

786
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 6: They put Johnny U. Banks in in my place Chicago

787
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 6: of course, fresh meat. They're going right ad and right

788
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 6: in and right in them, and I'm sitting there like

789
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 6: I can't let them do Johnny. You bangs like that,

790
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 6: because just if I go out here, I don't need

791
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 6: to be helping. They'll still respect. I get off the table,

792
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 6: tell the train of some kind of lie. I run

793
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 6: back in, run and get back in the game. They

794
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 6: take Johnny out, but I just wasn't gonna let I

795
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 6: want to protect. I know if he gets in here

796
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 6: and he continue to me, he might not be on

797
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 6: this team out of there.

798
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

799
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: He was a good guy too.

800
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 3: You're a real one for that, I'll tell you you. No, No,

801
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: A lot ofdes wouldn't do that.

802
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: No, I know they wouldn't do it. And that's how

803
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: I felt last year.

804
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 6: They kind of left my guy for us hanging guns.

805
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 6: At the end of the day, we supposed to protect

806
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 6: each other. And I know if I was having a

807
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 6: bad game as a rookie, d Green a champ would

808
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 6: have came over there and say, hey, let me help,

809
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 6: let me take this goog this guy, you just go

810
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 6: to the ConA right now.

811
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 5: I got you.

812
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: No, I think that's exactly right. So we got a

813
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 3: couple of ud FA's here the sign. What's the number ten? Anyway,

814
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: any of.

815
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: These guys that kind of stick out to you is

816
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: kind of say, hey, man, this guy might be fun

817
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. And again we go deeper

818
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: dive on Ticket to the Draft podcast which comes on

819
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: on on Friday. But these guys, you're like, man, this

820
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: is what I want you to keep it eye.

821
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: This is what I want you to do.

822
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 6: Keep your wife and your girlfriend away from Sam Hartman.

823
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 6: Start let's start there, all right, I don't know if

824
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 6: to jump off, let's start there.

825
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: If Sam makes the team or not, he will be

826
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: in the DMV. Are all is what I'm saying is

827
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: this he is a heart throb. Let's start there.

828
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 3: All.

829
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 5: I think I can't think of this guy name man,

830
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 5: but I'm pretty sure you'all gonna have me. Oh, I

831
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 5: guess he broke it down right here for me.

832
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 7: Thank you, jay O, Go go Woo Google, Google, David Woo, Google,

833
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 7: David Woo Google six five, three.

834
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 5: Hundred and one pounds. And he's gonna be playing with lineman.

835
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 5: He's gonna tackle tackle switch player to me, I just

836
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 5: got to keep you out on.

837
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: I think you know Google Woo, Google, I love it.

838
00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: I want to hear that's the guy.

839
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 6: But hey, Coaston Yankoff, Yankoff, who First of all, he's

840
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 6: a He used to play tailback, he used to return punts,

841
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 6: lay quarterback, he played quarterback everything. But we're going to

842
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 6: play him at tight end. Like so they tell you

843
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 6: what type of athlete this dude is. I think if

844
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 6: anybody has a chance undrafted free agent to make this team,

845
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 6: it's him Yankoff. Like he's the guy that you have

846
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 6: to because they're all about athletics, score and what can

847
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 6: you do? When I look on this, he can do

848
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 6: more than most of the people on here. He's not

849
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 6: singlar in anyway. And I think you have a better

850
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 6: chance to make this team if you play more than

851
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 6: one position.

852
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he so.

853
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: I if I remember he serves, he played running back,

854
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: tight end, he was a return man, he played all

855
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: four special teams.

856
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: He played a little linebacker.

857
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: He transferred from U dub as a quarterback, and so

858
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: like they couldn't. He's just a big athletic, that'sletic guy.

859
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

860
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: So like maybe, like you're saying, Fred, find a way

861
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: to get him some touches like he was. I think

862
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: he led the team in special team tackle. So obviously, yeah,

863
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: team's value. I definitely got to keep an eye on

864
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: for sure. Got another guy Colorado State. I'm calling them

865
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: ce out the gate. I ain't trying to mess his

866
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: name up, said Chogaga's a Cheagozi chegoziw him Like I

867
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: like that.

868
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 5: I like that Chegozi in the Newseum coming back for

869
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 5: three nine forty Uh. I mean all the intelligents when

870
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 5: you look at six to one two hundred physic school,

871
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 5: you watch his film, he won those guys. I looked

872
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 5: him up because I'm going over this list last night.

873
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 5: I love when you give us this stuff before here,

874
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 5: I get a chance to go and lookuse somebody watch

875
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.

876
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: I went and put up film. I'm like, Oh, he

877
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: gonna make the team. And then I find out they

878
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: gave him a little nice stifen.

879
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 5: You know, they give you a nice little stipend. They

880
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 5: got good intent, they invested in you for a reason.

881
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 5: So for him to be a free agent, under undrafted

882
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 5: free agent, that's always an eye raiser right now.

883
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: Raise that's a big one for me to just knowing that, damn, we're.

884
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 5: Giving him a couple of dollars because we believe a

885
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 5: little something more than.

886
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: What we don't want nobody else to get them.

887
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: I think you got paid them of any undrafted rookie

888
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: year he was and there was a little bitting war

889
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: between him here and Denver. Yeah, we won fifty thousand dollars.

890
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: That's a big deal. And I think some of his

891
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: contracts guaranteed another big deal for him. So my guy

892
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: Tanna mention it like moves well, pretty instinctive efforts, a

893
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: little up and down, but the frame, the profile, the

894
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: athletic it's all there. Another guy that I think is

895
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: super interesting, just like just incredibly interesting. Is Tyler Allens

896
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: from Texas Tech. So he transferred from Texas. He's never

897
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: really played safety until last year, a little up and

898
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: down weird angles.

899
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: You know what he played before that was the corner linebacker.

900
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: I think he played star for them, alright, hybrid. But

901
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: the thing about him is he is a teams guy. Yeah,

902
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: but he's literally may like this is not an exaggeration.

903
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: He might be the most explosive person ever in the history.

904
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: Of the combine.

905
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 5: I've seen a damn broad jump.

906
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 2: Twelve two, twelve to two. That's incredible, giant.

907
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he had a forty one inch.

908
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: Vertical that's no one inch under me?

909
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 3: Stop? What was your vertical?

910
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: Forty two?

911
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: Oh my god? I jumped up and I ain't come

912
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 3: down with thank you Jason.

913
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: I mean, did I even say? Jason just pulled out

914
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: his phone right away, because that's that's the kind of guy.

915
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: So he's six to two, he's two fifteen, he's got

916
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: thirty three and a quarter inch arms, Like, dude is

917
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: built in the labeah and so again.

918
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: Teams value.

919
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: But when you see him, like I was watching filming

920
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: him the other night, I was like, damn, like this

921
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: dude looks like a linebacker playing safety.

922
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 3: Again, very raw, but but.

923
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: That's what you want.

924
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: But Carver Carver roll as a team with crazy athletic upside.

925
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: So that's someone I would just say, hey, man, keep

926
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: an eye.

927
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 5: On him now now.

928
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: Also now, because I watched a lot of Georgia football.

929
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: Rose Jack's sat Saint. Yes, I like him a lot.

930
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 6: I've been saying, like, he just one of those guys

931
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 6: that you know, he didn't play high level football, you know,

932
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 6: he got overshadowed by a lot of draft picks, and

933
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 6: he's one of those guys that remind me of Cam.

934
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: Seems in a way.

935
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a great car.

936
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 6: What I'm saying remind me of Cam Seems to where

937
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 6: he the type guy that could get on the roster

938
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 6: and just stick. Yeah, just always be there. So so yeah,

939
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 6: so he one of those guys.

940
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 5: I mean, anytime you look at a guy and he

941
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 5: had zero drop passes since twenty twenty two, Yeah, that's

942
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 5: an eye raiser, right, That's the eyebrod raiser. So I'm like,

943
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 5: you know, I'm with you with that. But you know what,

944
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 5: one of the things about it too, you gotta think

945
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 5: about it. You know, you're gonna always find a guy

946
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 5: that if he can be specially on special teams. Yeah,

947
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 5: and he plays a receiving position.

948
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 2: Yeah.

949
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 5: And he's a bingo ahead gunner.

950
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a he's a tough son of a gun.

951
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: I had a draft table grade on him, honestly.

952
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

953
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: I think he had some medical stuff like a knee

954
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: shue or something that might have made it tough. But

955
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: as far as the football of the film, yeah, I

956
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: thought had a very solid senior ball. I thought he

957
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 1: was consistent of Georgia.

958
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 3: Not the guy there.

959
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 6: And what I say, like when you when you go

960
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 6: to these big schools and you not the guy, so

961
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 6: matchin being in Miami and they got Tana and how

962
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 6: many more receivers in you the fifth guy. It don't

963
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 6: mean you can't play. It's just a deep ride receiving guy.

964
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 5: You gotta think. We had me Reggie, Wayne, Andre King,

965
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 5: and Daryl Jones and Andre Whiston was coming in as

966
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 5: a third and fourth guy.

967
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: So this imagine that.

968
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 5: This year up all the famet this year, Well he

969
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 5: just he got taken it and he was he was

970
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 5: a guy coming off the bench, you know what I mean.

971
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 5: So and like so That's how it is when you

972
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 5: have those teams and just imagine that those Alabama or

973
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 5: wide receiver rooms.

974
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: You know what, all these.

975
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 5: Guys in the league now they are playing a high

976
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 5: level that you had to basically waste your turn.

977
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: That's something we'll talk about more, probably on a later show.

978
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 3: But I think in terms of positions that are going

979
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: to be super interesting, like receiver, especially like those four

980
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: six guys.

981
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: You know who is gonna be you Need You Need

982
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: you Miami.

983
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 3: What's gonna happen impact the tight end room? Like all

984
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: these guys.

985
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 6: James and crowded, how it's gonna happen, Like you're right,

986
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 6: them last three spots in their receiver room, It's gonna

987
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 6: be a fight for those.

988
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: And so that's where I think that like a guy

989
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: like Jack Saint could maybe make it happen.

990
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, because.

991
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: We don't know what they're looking for.

992
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 6: He has a body type it's big that he don't

993
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 6: have to compete against in that room.

994
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: Like I think he would be the tallest guy, right.

995
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: He's six to two. I think he's one hundred and

996
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 3: seventy five times because which.

997
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: Was six feet six Luke McCaffrey sixty two.

998
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 3: I mean he's sixty one and five eighths.

999
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, technically so maybe, but uh but yeah.

1000
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: And so the other one is the DB's like, we

1001
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: got all these kind of dbs that are flex.

1002
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 3: You know.

1003
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: That's why I think Owens is such an interesting guy.

1004
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: But the guy that no one said that I wanted

1005
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: to call attention to is a guy Noral Pollard from

1006
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech, defensive tackle. And I watched the film head

1007
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: him last night and talk about a defensive not a

1008
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: big guy.

1009
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 3: I think he's I saw something in the city's six

1010
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 3: foot He's six foot two, five pounds. Not a big man,

1011
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: but he.

1012
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: Has the juice as a pass rusher man, he's got

1013
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: the juice. And so in a scheme defensively, at least

1014
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: in Dallas that prioritized into your pass rushers, like, I

1015
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: bet you if you come to training camp and this

1016
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: guy's healthy, he's gonna win everyone.

1017
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 5: On hold on, take about I'm reading this right, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

1018
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 5: read that out to. He was PFF grade third ahead

1019
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 5: of Johnny Newton for.

1020
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: Pastor past like.

1021
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: He also had uh in terms of winning percentage on

1022
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: true past sets, ninety grade and twenty pressures. Right, so

1023
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: he's tied with Byron Murphy. That's the that was the

1024
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: first defensive tackle. Like, dude has juice. Yes, he's just small.

1025
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: I've been saying he just didn't look the part.

1026
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 5: But guess what, he's on the right team. Because one

1027
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 5: of the things you know about this defense, yeah, as

1028
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 5: you've seen it, Yeah, it traveled from a lot of

1029
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 5: different places. They find a spot for you, whatever you

1030
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 5: can do best, and they slides you in there and

1031
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 5: let you go out there and be special.

1032
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: So reminds me of Lionel the Snail Dalton. I played

1033
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: with Lionel Dalton.

1034
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: He was a detail is the real name?

1035
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I named him the Snell that he was slow.

1036
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 6: No, he just looked like a snail, Like his face

1037
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 6: out like he looked like a snail.

1038
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 2: He's like what he like like he didn't like sound

1039
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: like a cat. You know it.

1040
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 6: It was so funny because it was he wasn't sponge bossing.

1041
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 6: I know they'll call the player to be third that.

1042
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 6: I was like, go get him snail right on the

1043
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 6: Snail Dalton.

1044
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, you said he reminded you of yeah, because Snail

1045
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: was undersized.

1046
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: If if I brought h me here right now. You

1047
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: be like that ain't no d line.

1048
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 6: But boy, between Kansas City and here, put up stats

1049
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 6: like I could always count on the snail to get

1050
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 6: after the quarterback.

1051
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 5: So he was like Alexander for us, he was like

1052
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 5: O just like just like we didn't know where they

1053
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 5: had to put. Joe was just a ball player. Yes,

1054
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 5: we had at full back.

1055
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 7: We had yeah, yeah.

1056
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: And that's how he got the name one man gag

1057
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: I named the neck.

1058
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: Because I like do I remember talking to people from

1059
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: different teams about Zoe, like on special teams, and they

1060
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: were like legitimately afraid.

1061
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 3: They were like they had like it was something wrong

1062
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 3: with him, talking about Randy Moss flu or whatever like that.

1063
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: People like bottom of the roster guys, you have to

1064
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: play every game where you're gonna get cut.

1065
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 3: Had like Lorenzo Alexander flew. He was just knocking dudes unconscious. Man.

1066
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: No, And we had this is team core.

1067
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 6: We had Zoe, We had Rock cop right, Mike Sailor, and.

1068
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: We had Carrie Campbell that was out.

1069
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 6: Guess what all four of you guys gonna put a

1070
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 6: mustache on your face?

1071
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 3: Dude?

1072
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: Like I just remember watching like the first time in

1073
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: a game, you know, watching those dudes cover a kick.

1074
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 3: It was terrify watch.

1075
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 5: Them on the team though, Like if you ever seen that,

1076
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 5: like my view of it, bro slashed.

1077
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 6: Your boy used to take people out of the return

1078
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 6: a smitty.

1079
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: I used to rick shot if I catch you not looking,

1080
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: that's the best. That's the way it was.

1081
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: I remember Mike Sellers on punt return being on the

1082
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: line at him literally because he was huge, huge, and

1083
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: he would just grab the dude right here on the

1084
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: shoulder pads and let the move. And he would just

1085
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: stand at the line of scrimmage and the dude was

1086
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: like and he could not get off the line of scrimmage.

1087
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is just a different bitches

1088
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 1: five hundred.

1089
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 5: First of all, man, you know, shouting to Mike Settles

1090
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 5: when I heard his surgery.

1091
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 6: Surgery went well, new heart transplants, Thanks so much.

1092
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 2: A man is up walking, he's looking strong.

1093
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 6: At the end of the day, it's blessed by blessed

1094
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 6: by somebody else.

1095
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what's up. But I remember getting here and

1096
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 5: hearing the story that he didn't go to He didn't

1097
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 5: go to go to college. He went to junior he went,

1098
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 5: he went to Canada. Yes, and I'm like, hold on,

1099
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 5: you didn't say that again. He was like, yeah, I

1100
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 5: played pro.

1101
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: He's only had one year Junie Cars and I went

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Speaker 2: to I went.

1103
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 3: And he was the youngest in football, eighteen and a half.

1104
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 6: And when he got off the bus they were like, no,

1105
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 6: he can't.

1106
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Speaker 2: Years.

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Speaker 1: When I first talk about those metal lockers, I was

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00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: at my metal locker. First they put my stuff in there,

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00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: and Mike walked in and I was like, that's gotta

1110
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: be like a defensive tack, you know.

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00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: Like that what they looked like.

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00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: And then and that's a big and then someone was like, oh,

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00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: that's Mike Sellers and I was like, I am not

1114
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: gonna because.

1115
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 2: If that's what a freaking fullback.

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00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 5: Mike was like that that what you call it when

1117
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 5: he can play tight end in full back. He was

1118
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 5: in between like and it was crazy because I remember

1119
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 5: we had plays where we'll say we got two tight ends.

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00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 5: We got COOLi and Mike, you know what I mean,

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00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 5: Like my first couple of years here and I'm like,

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00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 5: this dude here can come kind of just we put

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00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 5: him at d N A couple of plays too.

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00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: Greg Greg William Greg tried him out of d N.

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Speaker 6: He was a psychle man man, listen man. When you

1126
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 6: get a body type like that. I remember when I

1127
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 6: first met Mike. He was in Cleveland and we were

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00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 6: playing Cleveland in the preseason and Mike was just played here,

1129
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 6: like Mike played here two stints, so he was stapping

1130
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 6: everybody up before the game.

1131
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 2: I was like, d Green, who is that? He was like, oh,

1132
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: they Mike Sell. He a full back. Watch out for

1133
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: that power. I'm like what you mean? I like, I

1134
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: tell you what if I got to hit.

1135
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 6: Him, they's gonna be lun loan listen to me. And

1136
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 6: they tossed the sweep to death do us pull? I

1137
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 6: cut him so low. I got a so so made

1138
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 6: because you know he had to lead. I like, well,

1139
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 6: you build like a spoon. I know not to go

1140
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 6: hound you though, No, Like yeah, I realized, like some

1141
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,479
Speaker 6: of these guys are truly intimidate. And I remember first

1142
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 6: seeing Mike and I was like, I don't know how

1143
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 6: long I got any league.

1144
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: He made me feel that said was.

1145
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: I remember watching a cut up and we were just

1146
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: looking at like it was like past fifteen week, which

1147
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: is like where the fullback leads up on the linebacker

1148
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 1: then runs to the flat and it was like James

1149
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: Harrison off the ball and James Harrison was like.

1150
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 3: A monster dude.

1151
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: And Mike hit this dude so hard he like cart

1152
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: wielding James Harrison and then what's the flat? Like it

1153
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: was like a speed bump and I just played James Harrison.

1154
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: I was like, who are you? Like, what are you doing?

1155
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, they don't build him that way.

1156
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 5: And Mike was reason my guys like might make me

1157
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 5: make that business decision A long time ago. When I

1158
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 5: was the corner coming into high school, I was like,

1159
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 5: do I want to tackle guys like that?

1160
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: Because you get kids took it in high school.

1161
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 5: You're like, man, running backs look that big, like damn

1162
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 5: you know a lineman.

1163
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get back to I think Mike was the

1164
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: udf A right, Yes, he was undrafted free agent.

1165
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: So let's get back to that.

1166
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: If you were giving advice to these guys, we just

1167
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: talked to her, just guys, right, yeah, what advice would

1168
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: you give them? So hey, U d face, you got

1169
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: to sit down there in front of you right now.

1170
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: Let's see I.

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00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 6: Find you a veteran in that locker room and learn

1172
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 6: his habits like not only just learn his habits, understand

1173
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 6: his mindset, and hopefully you can find a veteran that's

1174
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 6: an undrafted free agent. Nobody then rocked your walk, and

1175
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 6: walk your path and let them tell you how important

1176
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 6: every practice, every play, every every time you get, every

1177
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 6: time your numbers called to get in there, take it

1178
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 6: like it's your last.

1179
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 5: I say, find your edge. I think your edge would.

1180
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 5: But mostly just you know, one of the things that

1181
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 5: I learned in college when I, you know, came in

1182
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 5: and being where I was at, I was too naive

1183
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 5: to understand where I was at, you know what I mean.

1184
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 5: I was happy for the ride. You know, at worst,

1185
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be truck shot. So whatever happens here, I'm

1186
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 5: ready sure that anyway, I ain't nothing, not gonna lose.

1187
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 5: But the way I got on the field was coach

1188
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 5: said that he say, every day, when you come off

1189
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 5: this field, make sure we're saying something positive about it. Yes,

1190
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 5: I'm like and I so now that I got that

1191
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 5: little knowing that little like bub bub there, And so

1192
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 5: I tried to every time I'm out there, I get

1193
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 5: a chance, I'm winning, I'm winning my one on one.

1194
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 5: I got to know all my assignments, assignment a lineman assiment.

1195
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 5: I want to line up right and know the assignment.

1196
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 5: I want to know my coverages like find the Edge.

1197
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 5: Always always make the guy that's in front of you

1198
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 5: do more than what he did, show up, show him up.

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Speaker 5: And then when it's all over, how many reps you're

1200
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 5: gonna get after its how much finwork you gonna get

1201
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 5: in last person before you know, while everybody going home

1202
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 5: on their brakes. I'm from Miami. I hated the film work,

1203
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 5: but guess what I wanted to you can you can

1204
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 5: put up this film and show me how to readcover

1205
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 5: two a little differently, and show me how to read

1206
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 5: this cover six like I ain't never heard of cover six.

1207
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 5: Like I was always trying to get in some kind

1208
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 5: of way, but I didn't know that he taught me that.

1209
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 5: You know, that coach, that particular coach taught me that.

1210
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 5: So I would tell a guy find your edge, put

1211
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 5: in more film work than the next guy, put in

1212
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 5: more work on the field after practice, and before you

1213
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 5: know it, they're gonna be like, hey man, you see

1214
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 5: this guy keep coming here showing up because it's going

1215
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 5: to show up on film. It's gonna show up on

1216
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 5: the field like you're gonna see your play elevate when

1217
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 5: you put in all that work.

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Speaker 3: That's school, that's real right there. I appreciate. I appreciate that.

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00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: I wish you would have told me that when I

1220
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: was rookie, But I would say that you're not gonna

1221
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: get as many opportunities. There's everybody else. Ye got to

1222
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: maximize those opportunities. Treat every play like its super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: And I would say, you know what, when you're saying that,

1224
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 5: don't be in your feelings. Don't get in your feelings

1225
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 5: because you're gonna make plays that the guy who probably

1226
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 5: two spots in front of you didn't make. But don't

1227
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 5: be mad that he got the next record and you

1228
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 5: didn't get record. Coach, see they see it, and if

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00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 5: they don't see it, somebody else would.

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00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, they see it. That's exactly right. You know.

1231
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel not Curtis Chris Samuel Christ told me that

1232
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: he knew I was going to make the team in

1233
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: twenty ten, and it was this is what happened.

1234
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 3: So it was a.

1235
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: Ball that got We were doing like a live period

1236
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: and I was running like a corner on the backside,

1237
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: like you know, individual back side, and there was a.

1238
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 3: Fumble on the left side of the field and I

1239
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 3: was just so dumb.

1240
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 1: I just sprinted as hard as I could over there

1241
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: and I recovered the football.

1242
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 3: I've passed people up and he's like, that's what I know.

1243
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 3: You're gonna make it. Oh yeah.

1244
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: And it was something that I had nothing to do

1245
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: with job, with my job. It just was like football

1246
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: is important to this guy. You're going to go the

1247
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: extra mile and like any opportunity you have to show

1248
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: that with the film, getting with the veteran all that stuff.

1249
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: So hey, good luck, guys. We appreciate you, and I

1250
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: think that's going to do it for Toda's show. Good yeah,

1251
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, guys, And make sure you like and

1252
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: subscribeer ever you get your podcasts, and make sure you're

1253
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: leaving Jason those emails at.

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Speaker 3: That Hawk out Side at gmail dot com.

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1256
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,040
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1257
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,799
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