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Speaker 1: Hey, this Scenny and Samantha and welcome to Stuff whe

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Speaker 1: Never Told You production of I Heard Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to another episode a Feminist around the World,

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Speaker 2: and we are dedicating this episode to some of the

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Speaker 2: legends of Hawaiian surfing, the Hawaiian wahine as we have

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Speaker 2: referenced before, who have and continue to change the sport

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Speaker 2: and do some amazing things within their community. Of course,

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Speaker 2: as with most of our episodes, when it comes to

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Speaker 2: who we are talking about and who is making an impact,

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Speaker 2: it's a giant list. So the list we have is

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Speaker 2: very small compared to the many who deserve to be

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Speaker 2: recognized and given their flowers. And one day, maybe if

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Speaker 2: we just keep going for the next ten thousand years,

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Speaker 2: we can talk about all of them, all of them. Yeah, sure, sure, sure,

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Speaker 2: sure sure, But yes, this is just a small, very

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Speaker 2: small list for a very short segment that we wanted

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Speaker 2: I guess, not necessarily content warning, just a heads up.

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Speaker 2: As per usual, we try our best with pronunciations. I

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Speaker 2: don't think there's anything big this time around, but we

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Speaker 2: can get pronunciations wrong, and there's a lot of times

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Speaker 2: where we figured out that we don't say some of

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Speaker 2: these words out loud, yes, and have to figure out

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Speaker 2: how to pronounce them, even though they might be common.

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Speaker 2: But what was common in our heads is not actually

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Speaker 1: This is true. This is true. This is one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest lessons of podcasting.

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Speaker 2: It's true. It really threw me off how little I

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Speaker 2: knew how to say things so that way I say it.

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Speaker 2: And also with this, there is a lot of controversy

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Speaker 2: that is happening within the surfing community, especially when it

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Speaker 2: comes to trans athletes. There was a whole band on

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Speaker 2: one trans athlete Sasha Jane Loewerson. She was barred from competing,

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Speaker 2: and I think they got Huntington Beach one. But I

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Speaker 2: opinions I guess that have come about, and there it

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Speaker 2: that's really important that when we show our allyship to

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Speaker 2: with that, we are purposely leaving some people off of

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Speaker 2: our list. If we added someone that is up making

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Speaker 2: or have been known to make trans phobic remarks, please

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Speaker 2: let us know, because I tried. We tried diligently to

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Speaker 2: the same opinions. A lot of people have fallen out

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Speaker 2: because of these opinions, but it wasn't known until much later.

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Speaker 2: Like we've talked about how Trump really let us know

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Speaker 2: who people were. Yeah, and I was like, that's one

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Speaker 2: But they were friends with us, you know, we were

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Speaker 2: that side quote unquote, not to give excuses, so but

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Speaker 2: apologize if we do include someone that is really hurtful,

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Speaker 2: and we don't want that to be but again, we

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Speaker 2: Moore Caarisa Moore is an Olympic champion surfer who won

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Speaker 1: And she recently opened up about her own mental health

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Speaker 1: I I know then we have Coco Ho. Ho has

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Speaker 1: prior to the WSL, she tore up the youth circuit,

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Speaker 2: Right and with all her success, she has recently launched

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Speaker 2: our own surfboard brand, XO Coco Oh. And also she

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Speaker 2: was a part of the only surfing movie I ever watched,

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Speaker 2: Blue Crush? Is that true? I probably watched other surfing movies,

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Speaker 2: but none of them left an impact like Blue Crush.

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Speaker 2: Well centered around It wasn't centered around women competing, so

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Speaker 1: Yes, Okay. Starting with Pua de Soto. DeSoto has been

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Speaker 1: She talked about her past experiences of being bullied for

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Speaker 1: She told Olympics dot Com growing up, it's always so

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Speaker 2: With a shout out to the ladies on the twenty

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Speaker 2: We can't wait to see what you do.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, just yes. And we have done past episodes

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