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Speaker 1: Obviously, it's the first time we've talked to you since

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Speaker 2: How did you hear that news? What are your thoughts

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Speaker 3: I heard about it. Uh, I was at the crib.

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Speaker 3: I think Holland called me. Holland called me and told me.

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Speaker 2: Your reaction.

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Speaker 3: You know, man, it was a bummer, you know that

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Speaker 3: we had to let Shane go. I wish we could

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Speaker 3: have got it done for him, you know, put together

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Speaker 3: some good weeks, you know, towards the end of the season.

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Speaker 2: That would have been nice. You know, But I've been.

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Speaker 3: Through this before, so I know how when the head

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Speaker 3: coach get fired, you know, shortly after, a lot of

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Speaker 3: things start to fall apart. But you know that's just

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Speaker 3: the nature of the business. But you know, I wish

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Speaker 3: Shane the best. But we have to move on and

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Speaker 3: we have to prepare for this week against the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: When day night Ball you mentioned it was a bummer.

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Speaker 4: Why was it a bummer and were you surprised by

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Speaker 3: Just a bummer because you know, I like Shane, you know,

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Speaker 3: and I worked worked with him this whole year, you know,

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Speaker 3: being a leader that this well and last year, but

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Speaker 3: to develop a certain relationship. So you know, that's why

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Speaker 3: I was a bummer. But like I just said, like

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Speaker 3: it's the nature of the business. Like you know, once

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Speaker 3: you have that that first fire, the things start to

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Speaker 3: you know, kind of happen from there. I've seen it before,

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Speaker 3: so you know, it's not like a crazy shocker, but

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Speaker 3: it's just, you know, it's tough sometimes, you know, having

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Speaker 3: then they just leave, you know.

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Speaker 1: You know Charlie Bulling pretty well, he's your you know,

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Speaker 1: you're in his room right what He's never cold plays

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Speaker 2: What makes you think he can do it? Uh? Charge

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Speaker 3: I feel like he's been around a lot, you know,

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Speaker 3: he has a lot of experience. He was under a

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Speaker 3: great tree, you know, and just you know, talking ball

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Speaker 3: with him every day, watching extensive film with him every day.

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Speaker 2: You know, I picked up on his football knowledge.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's a good you know, but I

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Speaker 3: have really went either way. All our coaches are you know,

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Speaker 3: like we could have went either way, but you know,

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Speaker 3: they chose Charlie, and I'm grateful for that because.

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Speaker 2: Me and him have a very very tight relationship.

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Speaker 1: So just one last thing, I know there's other people there.

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Speaker 1: They could have gone a different way. There were guys

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Speaker 1: surprised one of them was not picked.

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Speaker 3: Uh No, I wouldn't really surprised. Like I said, we

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Speaker 3: could have went either way. I wouldn't been mad with

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Speaker 3: grateful because Charlie has been in my room for two years.

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Speaker 5: So, you know, good, thank you Evan Barnes, Hey ro.

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Speaker 2: If you could.

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Speaker 4: I'm just you know, you and Charlie had that very

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Speaker 4: he like as a coach working with him, and just

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Speaker 3: And that really hold my back of room. Really, I

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Speaker 2: So I really feel like he's getting the best out

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Speaker 3: But other than that, like Charlie is the guy that's

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Speaker 4: All right, and then obviously you guys have looked at

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Speaker 4: when how how do you process these fourth quarters? What

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Speaker 4: it just seems to be that you guys played well

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Speaker 2: You as wont just the critical moments.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's one play here, one play there, and

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Speaker 3: you know what, a guy like Gibbs couldn't give him

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Speaker 3: we feeled in that in that uh, in that aspect

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Speaker 2: So thank you thieve.

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Speaker 6: Why know, hey, Brian, I know you guys just started

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Speaker 6: preparing for the Patriots. But what have you seen sort

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Speaker 6: of out of Drake May and what makes him such

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Speaker 4: To play against him?

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Speaker 3: Oh, he's talented, talented arm I'm not really too sure

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Speaker 3: at the right time. He does seem to bit poison

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Speaker 3: maybe a little bit too, maybe a little bit too

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Speaker 6: What do you mean about about two poison? Folks have

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Speaker 6: said that about Jackson Dart a little bit too. Maybe

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Speaker 3: Really just getting to him getting his blind spots, like

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Speaker 3: If that makes sense, Like what I mean by poison,

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Speaker 3: It could be a bad thing, could be a good thing.

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Speaker 3: But what I mean by poison that he takes his time,

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Speaker 1: We'll take two more Art Stapleton.

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Speaker 2: Ay Burns, what's going.

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Speaker 7: You had talked earlier this year about the need for

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Speaker 7: What you were guys trying to do being heard? Is

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Speaker 7: this another opportunity now where you know, Kafka kind of

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Speaker 7: Do you feel like you guys can kind of take

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, man, look, we got five left.

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Speaker 3: Kind of like I guess if you want to look

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Speaker 2: Why not go out there and give it all you

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Speaker 2: got to get get to it. So if you want

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Speaker 3: I mean I kind of been looking at the back

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Speaker 3: all out, regardless of our record, of regardless of whatever

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Speaker 3: it only matters like when I'm between the white lines

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Speaker 3: and the film that I put out there. So that's

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Speaker 7: I guess I guess I meant even more so than that,

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Speaker 7: they're just schematically like, are there things that you guys

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Speaker 7: don't we try this? Why don't we change this? Not

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Speaker 7: necessarily wiping out, you know, the season, but looking at

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Speaker 7: the defense, maybe it's an opportunity for you guys to

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Speaker 7: kind of change some things up that that maybe previously

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Speaker 7: kind of you know, look, it's the defensive coordinator has

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Speaker 7: been here all year. He might not change things, but

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Speaker 7: now things are changing in front of you.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the plays or the calls are going

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Speaker 2: But we're still early in the week.

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Speaker 3: We haven't really gotten to the schematics of how we're

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Speaker 3: maybe some small things changes just because it's a new guy,

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Speaker 3: you know, calling the plays, and he has his own

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Speaker 2: So I mean, you just have to wait to see. Gotcha.

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Speaker 2: Thanks man.

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Speaker 4: Last one Peter's Pondorio.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Brian, you mentioned, you know, this being the best

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Speaker 2: Remember, he gotten to that point. We've had many talks.

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Speaker 3: The only thing I can think of think of off

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Speaker 3: he said, to do something you haven't done, you have

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Speaker 3: to do something you haven't done, So I mean that's

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Speaker 3: essentially talking about my process. I really feel like he

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Speaker 3: I mean. So, you know, we've had multiple talks about

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Speaker 3: you know, he shoots it straight, so you know, that's

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